Re: Video: encodage en serie

2010-05-15 Thread Mazel Fred
Tu fais un script bash :

#!/bin/bash

cd ton repertoire ou sont tes vidéos
for video in *
do
#ici tu convertis tes videos
done


Pour pouvoir l'exécuter tu fais un chmod u+x sur ton script puis tu le
lances avec ./tonscript

Tu peux bien sur faire un script beaucoup plus complet.
Pour les conversions tu peux utiliser mencoder. 
http://fr.lprod.org/wiki/doku.php/video:mencoder:exemples#encodage_en_divx_c

Voila

FMZ

Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 07:00 +0200, Zuthos a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai tous un repertoire de vidéo familial mal encodé pour passer dans mon 
 lecteur de salon.
 
 Il sagit de vidéo assez courtes de 5 à 10Mn.
 
 Je souhaite toute les encodé dans un bon format, a savoir AVI, XVID et MP3.
 
 Malheureusement, le faire pour chaque vidéo est assez long, et surtout ma 
 présence nécessaire
 
 Est-il possible de le faire en une seule ligne de commande, puis allez me 
 promener avec ma petite famille pour réaliser d'autre de ces vidéo??? :-)
 
 Merci d'avance

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Re: Connexion GPS

2010-05-15 Thread pelmatochromis82
Oui, mon compte utilisateur est bien dans plugdev.

Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 06:52 +0200, fred a écrit :
 Salut,
 
 est ce que ton compte utilisateur fait partie du groupe plugdev ?
 
 
 pelmatochromis82 a écrit :
  Bonjour,
 
  J'essaye en vain de récupérer les données de mon GPS Garmin via GPSBabel
  sans être root. Si je suis root, pas de problème tout fonctionne comme
  je veux. Si je ne suis pas root, j'obtiens le message d'erreur suivant :
 
  GPSBabel Version: 1.3.5 
  usb_set_configuration failed, probably because kernel driver ''
   is blocking our access to the USB device.
  For more information see http://www.gpsbabel.org/os/Linux_Hotplug.html
 
  Apparemment, le problème n'est pas nouveau. J'ai essayé de m'inspirer de
  ce qui est à l'url ci-dessus. J'ai donc créé un fichier 51-garmin.rules
  dans /etc/udev/rules.d, j'y ai ajouté la ligne suivante :
  SYSFS{idVendor}==091e, SYSFS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=666
 
  Ça ne fonctionne pas, j'ai donc essayé avec cette autre ligne :
  SUSBSYSTEM!=usb_device, GOTO=garmin_rules_end ACTION!=add,
  GOTO=garmin_rules_end ATTRS{idVendor}==091e,
  ATTRS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=0660, GROUP=plugdev
  LABEL=garmin_rules_end
 
  Mais ce n'est pas mieux. Bien entendu, j'ai relancé udev après chaque
  modification. J'ai même redémarré, sans résultat.
 
  Je suis en Lenny/amd64.
 
  Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait une idée ? Merci
 
  Pelmato
 
  PS : Merci de me mettre en CC car je ne suis pas inscrit à la liste.
 
 

 
 

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Re: Video: encodage en serie

2010-05-15 Thread Klaus Becker
Salut,

pour l'encodage, tu peux utiliser le fichier joint. Il provient de François 
Boisson, membre de la liste, si je ne me trompe pas.

Je l'ai utilisé pls fois avec succès.

Tu peux le placer dans /usr/local/bin et l'invoquer dans un script, dans la 
ligne après do.

Klaus


Le samedi 15 mai 2010 10:15:53, Mazel Fred a écrit :
 Tu fais un script bash :
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 cd ton repertoire ou sont tes vidéos
 for video in *
 do
 #ici tu convertis tes videos
 done
 
 
 Pour pouvoir l'exécuter tu fais un chmod u+x sur ton script puis tu le
 lances avec ./tonscript
 
 Tu peux bien sur faire un script beaucoup plus complet.
 Pour les conversions tu peux utiliser mencoder.
 http://fr.lprod.org/wiki/doku.php/video:mencoder:exemples#encodage_en_divx_
 c
 
 Voila
 
 FMZ
 
 Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 07:00 +0200, Zuthos a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  
  J'ai tous un repertoire de vidéo familial mal encodé pour passer dans mon
  lecteur de salon.
  
  Il sagit de vidéo assez courtes de 5 à 10Mn.
  
  Je souhaite toute les encodé dans un bon format, a savoir AVI, XVID et
  MP3.
  
  Malheureusement, le faire pour chaque vidéo est assez long, et surtout ma
  présence nécessaire
  
  Est-il possible de le faire en une seule ligne de commande, puis allez me
  promener avec ma petite famille pour réaliser d'autre de ces vidéo???
  :-)
  
  Merci d'avance


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boot raid 0

2010-05-15 Thread franck dufau
Bonjour à tous, 

 

J’ai installé un petit serveur, 3 dd de 80 go avec 

Raid 1 pour le boot

Raid5 pour le système

 

Cependant si je supprime le premier disque impossible de booter !?!

 

Une idée ?

 

Merci d’avance pour vos pertinentes interventions !

 

Franck



RE: boot raid 1

2010-05-15 Thread franck dufau
Désolé une coquille c’est glissée il faut lire raid 1 pour l’objet.

Merci

 

De : franck dufau [mailto:franckdu...@free.fr] 
Envoyé : samedi 15 mai 2010 17:43
À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Objet : boot raid 0

 

Bonjour à tous, 

 

J’ai installé un petit serveur, 3 dd de 80 go avec 

Raid 1 pour le boot

Raid5 pour le système

 

Cependant si je supprime le premier disque impossible de booter !?!

 

Une idée ?

 

Merci d’avance pour vos pertinentes interventions !

 

Franck



Installation depuis une clé USB

2010-05-15 Thread alpen tux
Bonjour,

J'essaie d'installer Debian sur un netbook (samsung N210) depuis une clé usb
(2 Go).

J'ai suivi la doc, syslinux sur la partition de la clé, copie de vmlinuz,
initrd.gz, image iso, syslinux.cfg kivabien.

Le boot se déroule correctement, vmlinuz, initrd, choix de langue, clavier
et jeu de caractères.

C'est lors de la recherche d'une image iso que ça ne fonctionne plus.

Quelqu'un(e) aurait une piste de recherche àm'indiquer ?

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Re: Connexion GPS

2010-05-15 Thread pelmatochromis82
Bon, après un bon moment à chercher, j'ai fini par trouver. La ligne
dans le fichier 51-garmin.rules n'était pas correcte, il faut mettre la
ligne suivante :

ATTRS{idVendor}==091e, ATTRS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=0660,
GROUP=plugdev

La page suivante m'a bien aidé :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USB_Garmin_on_GNU/Linux

Merci à ceux qui m'ont répondu.


Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 12:03 +0200, fred a écrit :
 Peut être compare les groupes de root qui te manque, sinon je vois
 pas, fais ça en root... ;o)) ou une histoire de chroot ?
 
 
 pelmatochromis82 a écrit : 
  Oui, mon compte utilisateur est bien dans plugdev.
  
  Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 06:52 +0200, fred a écrit :

   Salut,
   
   est ce que ton compte utilisateur fait partie du groupe plugdev ?
   
   
   pelmatochromis82 a écrit :
   
Bonjour,

J'essaye en vain de récupérer les données de mon GPS Garmin via GPSBabel
sans être root. Si je suis root, pas de problème tout fonctionne comme
je veux. Si je ne suis pas root, j'obtiens le message d'erreur suivant :

GPSBabel Version: 1.3.5 
usb_set_configuration failed, probably because kernel driver ''
 is blocking our access to the USB device.
For more information see http://www.gpsbabel.org/os/Linux_Hotplug.html

Apparemment, le problème n'est pas nouveau. J'ai essayé de m'inspirer de
ce qui est à l'url ci-dessus. J'ai donc créé un fichier 51-garmin.rules
dans /etc/udev/rules.d, j'y ai ajouté la ligne suivante :
SYSFS{idVendor}==091e, SYSFS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=666

Ça ne fonctionne pas, j'ai donc essayé avec cette autre ligne :
SUSBSYSTEM!=usb_device, GOTO=garmin_rules_end ACTION!=add,
GOTO=garmin_rules_end ATTRS{idVendor}==091e,
ATTRS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=0660, GROUP=plugdev
LABEL=garmin_rules_end

Mais ce n'est pas mieux. Bien entendu, j'ai relancé udev après chaque
modification. J'ai même redémarré, sans résultat.

Je suis en Lenny/amd64.

Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait une idée ? Merci

Pelmato

PS : Merci de me mettre en CC car je ne suis pas inscrit à la liste.


  
  
  

 

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Re: Installation depuis une clé USB

2010-05-15 Thread François Cerbelle
Le Saturday 15 May 2010 à 18:02:37 (+0200), alpen tux a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 J'essaie d'installer Debian sur un netbook (samsung N210) depuis une clé usb
 (2 Go).
 J'ai suivi la doc, syslinux sur la partition de la clé, copie de vmlinuz,
 initrd.gz, image iso, syslinux.cfg kivabien.
 Le boot se déroule correctement, vmlinuz, initrd, choix de langue, clavier
 et jeu de caractères.
 C'est lors de la recherche d'une image iso que ça ne fonctionne plus.
 Quelqu'un(e) aurait une piste de recherche àm'indiquer ?

Si ton but est l'installation, essaye simplement d'utiliser le paquet
unetbootin pour construire ta clé. Ce sera plus rapide et efficace.

Sinon, si ton but est d'apprendre, ne l'utilise pas et persévère, mais
je ne peux pas t'aider plus car tu ne donnes pas beaucoup de détails :
«Ça ne marche pas !»

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Re: boot raid 1

2010-05-15 Thread bruno

On 15/05/2010 17:48, franck dufau wrote:

Désolé une coquille c’est glissée il faut lire raid 1 pour l’objet.

Merci

*De :* franck dufau [mailto:franckdu...@free.fr]
*Envoyé :* samedi 15 mai 2010 17:43
*À :* debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
*Objet :* boot raid 0

Bonjour à tous,

J’ai installé un petit serveur, 3 dd de 80 go avec

Raid 1 pour le boot

Raid5 pour le système

Cependant si je supprime le premier disque impossible de booter !?!

Une idée ?

Merci d’avance pour vos pertinentes interventions !

Franck



Bonsoir,

Il me semble que c'est parfaitement normal car pour le raid 5 il faut au 
minimum 3 disques. Donc le kernel peut démarrer sur /boot (raid1), mais 
il ne peut de toute façon pas accéder à la partition racine (raid5). En 
théorie, cela ne peut que se terminer en kernel panic.


Bruno

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Re: boot raid 1

2010-05-15 Thread Christophe
Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 23:46 +0200, bruno a écrit :
 On 15/05/2010 17:48, franck dufau wrote:
  Désolé une coquille c’est glissée il faut lire raid 1 pour l’objet.
 
  Merci
 
  *De :* franck dufau [mailto:franckdu...@free.fr]
  *Envoyé :* samedi 15 mai 2010 17:43
  *À :* debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
  *Objet :* boot raid 0
 
  Bonjour à tous,
 
  J’ai installé un petit serveur, 3 dd de 80 go avec
 
  Raid 1 pour le boot
 
  Raid5 pour le système
 
  Cependant si je supprime le premier disque impossible de booter !?!
 
  Une idée ?
 
  Merci d’avance pour vos pertinentes interventions !
 
  Franck
 
 
 Bonsoir,
 
 Il me semble que c'est parfaitement normal car pour le raid 5 il faut au 
 minimum 3 disques. Donc le kernel peut démarrer sur /boot (raid1), mais 
 il ne peut de toute façon pas accéder à la partition racine (raid5). En 
 théorie, cela ne peut que se terminer en kernel panic.
 
 Bruno
 

Pour un raid 5 configuré pour n disques, n-1 suffisent pour fonctionner
(en mode dit dégradé). Ca m'étonnerait que le noyau plante dessus.

Pour le problème de boot, il faut penser à installer un chargeur de boot
(grub) sur chaque disque.

Tu peux donner plus de détails sur le message d'erreur que tu as ?

Christophe

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Re: boot raid 1

2010-05-15 Thread bruno

On 16/05/2010 00:02, Christophe wrote:

Le samedi 15 mai 2010 à 23:46 +0200, bruno a écrit :

On 15/05/2010 17:48, franck dufau wrote:

Désolé une coquille c’est glissée il faut lire raid 1 pour l’objet.

Merci

*De :* franck dufau [mailto:franckdu...@free.fr]
*Envoyé :* samedi 15 mai 2010 17:43
*À :* debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
*Objet :* boot raid 0

Bonjour à tous,

J’ai installé un petit serveur, 3 dd de 80 go avec

Raid 1 pour le boot

Raid5 pour le système

Cependant si je supprime le premier disque impossible de booter !?!

Une idée ?

Merci d’avance pour vos pertinentes interventions !

Franck



Bonsoir,

Il me semble que c'est parfaitement normal car pour le raid 5 il faut au
minimum 3 disques. Donc le kernel peut démarrer sur /boot (raid1), mais
il ne peut de toute façon pas accéder à la partition racine (raid5). En
théorie, cela ne peut que se terminer en kernel panic.

Bruno



Pour un raid 5 configuré pour n disques, n-1 suffisent pour fonctionner
(en mode dit dégradé). Ca m'étonnerait que le noyau plante dessus.

Pour le problème de boot, il faut penser à installer un chargeur de boot
(grub) sur chaque disque.

Tu peux donner plus de détails sur le message d'erreur que tu as ?

Christophe

Tout à fait exact, en mode dégradé ça devrait fonctionner... milles 
excuses pour le bruit.


Bruno

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Re: Installation depuis une clé USB

2010-05-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 15, 2010 at 06:02:37PM +0200, alpen tux a écrit :
 
 J'essaie d'installer Debian sur un netbook (samsung N210) depuis une clé usb
 (2 Go).
 
 J'ai suivi la doc, syslinux sur la partition de la clé, copie de vmlinuz,
 initrd.gz, image iso, syslinux.cfg kivabien.
 
 Le boot se déroule correctement, vmlinuz, initrd, choix de langue, clavier
 et jeu de caractères.
 
 C'est lors de la recherche d'une image iso que ça ne fonctionne plus.

Bonjour,

il me semble qu'il vaut mieux renommer l'image iso avec un nom plus court.
Malheureusement, je viens de m'apercevoir ce matin que j'avais égaré ma clé
USB, donc je ne peux pas dire quel nom avait bien marché. Sans doute quelque
chose comme « netinst.iso », « businesscard.iso », ou « mini.iso ».

Tiens-nous au courant !

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Re: Compartir capetas

2010-05-15 Thread Jorge Toro
El 14 de mayo de 2010 09:31, Federico Alberto Sayd fs...@uncu.edu.arescribió:

 Ismael L. Donis García escribió:

 Ante todo saludos.

  Estoy intentando meterme al mundo de Linux, por lo que tengo varios
 problemas.
  Instalé Debian Lenny en una red Windows y compartí una carpeta, desde la
 PC en Debian veo y entro a toda la red perfectamente pero si intento entrar
 desde una PC en Windows a la de debian me pido usuario y contraseña y
 intento con todos los usuarios y con ninguno me deja entrar. Como podría
 solucionar esto?
  GRACIAS
 =
 || ISMAEL ||
 =
 PD: No tengo acceso a Internet, por lo que no puedo buscar información por
 esa vía.

 El error puede deberse a muchos motivos. Pero ten en cuenta que Samba
 necesita que tu usuario sea tanto un usuario de windows como uno de Unix.

 Por ejemplo, si tienes el usuario pepe en Unix también lo tendrás que
 tener en la base de datos de usuarios de samba utilizando el comando
 smbpasswd. Los datos de usuarios y las claves encriptadas en samba se
 guardan de una forma diferente a como se guardan en Linux.

 Lo otro que puedes hacer es configurar samba para que guarde sus usuarios
 en ldap y a la vez configurar Linux para que autentique contra ldap, de esa
 manera creas un solo usuario con las herramientas smbldap-tools y listo
 tienes un usuario funcional tanto para samba como para Linux.

 La otra es si tienes un servidor Windows con Active Directory es crear el
 usuario en el AD y luego configurar Samba para que autentique contra el AD y
 a Linux para que también autentique contra el AD.

 En el paquete de documentación de samba lo tienes todo detallado pero
 tendrás que leer por un largo rato.

 Saludos



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Cordial saludo,

para soluciona tu problema con la tenes que crear una archivo de
autenticación el tu server samba para que los user de windows puedan tener
acceso a los archivos compartidos por el server samba.

para esto tenes que crear un archivo un archivo llamado /etc/samba/usersmb o
como querras no importa el mombre del archivo solo que hay indiques que user
tiene acceso a los ficheros del server.
Luego tenes que decirle a samba que busque en este archivo(para esto tenes
que haber creado un user en el server linux y agregarlo como user de samba:
smbpasswd -a user) con la siguiente sintaxis: user_samba = user_wiundo
después en el fichero /etc/samba/smb.conf descomentar la línea que
dice *security
= user* y agrega la línea: *username map = /etc/samba/usersmb*
reinicia el demonio de samba y listo.

saludos y suerte parcero.

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Re: Como cancelar un listado pendiente

2010-05-15 Thread Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
El 14 de mayo de 2010 06:16, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Fri, 14 May 2010 08:10:48 -0300, ciracusa escribió:

  ¿Qué es lo que quieres solucionar? ¿El mensaje de error que te saca KDE
  o algún problema con la cola de impresión que te impide imprimir?
 
  El mensaje de error podría ser un bug del applet de configuración de
  las impresoras del kde.
 
  Ambas!  ;-)

 Vale, pero podrían ser problemas distintos, es lo que quería decir :-P

  Para reiniciar el servicio de impresión, reinicia CUPS
  (/etc/init.d/cups restart).
 
  Ya lo hice y sigue igual! :(
 
  Se ha quedao la impresora parpadeando pero no se mueve!

 Apaga la impresora o desconecta/conecta el cable USB.

 Mándale a imprimir alguna otra cosa a ver qué hace.

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[OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Perez
Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
squid hacerlo así:
modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
controlados (40)
 |-switch -  red sin
restricciones (3)

Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread Carlos Miranda Molina - Mstaaravin /

On 05/15/2010 03:15 PM, Felix Perez wrote:

Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
squid hacerlo así:
modems dsl   router   pc squid --  switch a red usuarios
controlados (40)
  |-switch -  red sin
restricciones (3)


Más que suficiente
Eso si, ACLs + refresh_pattern a full (ahora con la versión 2.7 en Lenny 
podes cachear flash, espero el Mundial para verlo en acción)


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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread CHACO
2010/5/15 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com

 Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
 de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
 equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
 suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
 bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
 squid hacerlo así:
 modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
 controlados (40)
 |-switch -  red sin
 restricciones (3)

 Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

 Saludos.



Yo diria que se queda corta la máquina.
Tenia una parecida para 25 usuarios solo haciendo squid y el rendimiento no
era muy bueno.



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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread yordanis

Felix Perez escribió:

Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
squid hacerlo así:
modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
controlados (40)
 |-switch -  red sin
restricciones (3)

Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

Saludos.

  
Por supuesto que te va a funcionar, pero tal vez deberías considerar en 
mejorarle un poco la ram. Además, nada se pierde con probar  :)


Saludos.

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Re: migrar de proxy+ a squid

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 14 de mayo de 2010 10:25, Juan Alejandro Martinez Linares
isla...@infomed.sld.cu escribió:
 pero si se los puse en el correo anterior, estoy usando Proxy+ o mejor 
 dicho ProxyPlus
 para que entiendan mejor,, es eso, gracias por la ayuda

Por favor no hagas top posting.  Gracias.

Busca en las carpetas del programa si hay algún archivo que te de
alguna pista acerca de como autentifica o autentica (como prefieras),
si no 40 usuarios no son tantos como para ingresarlos uno a uno.  ¿por
qué no un proxi transparente?

Suerte.



 Mensaje citado por Federico Alberto Sayd fs...@uncu.edu.ar:

 Juan Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:
  hola amigos en el trabajo poco a poco estoy tratando de migrar todo pero 
  lo que si
 pondra
  la tapa al pomo sera como migrar el servidor proxy que tengo en windows al 
  que tengo
 en
  debian ,es decir el squid,, pero no encuentro nada relacionado podrian 
  ayudarme o
 aunque
  sea darme ideas,, tengo unos 40 usuarios solamente, no tengo mas,,, podria 
  pasar los
  usuarios unoa a uno pero los pass son los que mas me preocupan gracias a 
  todos de
  antemano.
 
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 Si quieres algo de ayuda tendrás que dar más información al respecto. Si
 no nos dices con qué software estás corriendo el proxy en Windows y el
 sistema de autenticación que usa dicho proxy como podremos darte una
 pista???

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Re: Samba PDC, LDAP con Cluster

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 14 de mayo de 2010 20:12, cosme co...@gecgr.co.cu escribió:
 Samba PDC, LDAP con Cluster


 Tengo instalado un controlador de dominio con Samba PDC OpenLDAP PAM/NSS, he
 buscado alguna configuracion para agregar un BDC pero nada.

 Me han dicho que una mejor opcion sería agregar un cluster ya que tiene más
 ventajas además de equilibrar las cargas.

 Alguna idea, algun manual u otra cosa
 Uso Debian Lenny


Me había prometido no volver a contestar pero.

Usted estimado acaso no fue al colegio y no le enseñaron a saludar,
pedir por favor y dar las gracias.

Acá todo se basa en la buena voluntad de algunos para con otros y no
es su soporte privado y particular para resolver sus dudas y problemas
a su antojo.

y para que siga buscando:
http://www.google.cl/#hl=esq=bdc+en+linuxaq=faqi=aql=oq=gs_rfai=fp=638578547a06eb6b

Sin más que agregar.



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Re: Samba PDC, LDAP con Cluster

2010-05-15 Thread Carlos Miranda Molina - Mstaaravin /
On 05/15/2010 05:07 PM, Felix Perez wrote:
 Me había prometido no volver a contestar pero.
 
 Usted estimado acaso no fue al colegio y no le enseñaron a saludar,
 pedir por favor y dar las gracias.
 
 Acá todo se basa en la buena voluntad de algunos para con otros y no
 es su soporte privado y particular para resolver sus dudas y problemas
 a su antojo.

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Re: phpmyadmin no sale

2010-05-15 Thread Orlando Nuñez
Solo por curiosidad:

1. Abre el el navegador que tengas instalado
2. Coloca en la barra de direccion http://localhost/phpmyadmin;

Cual es el error que te aparece?


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El 14 de mayo de 2010 03:40, Iván Sánchez Ortega
i...@sanchezortega.esescribió:

 El 14/05/2010 5:18, Luis Antonio Acosta S. escribió:

  apache y mysql funcionan pero phpmyadmin NO, ¿que puedo hacer?


 Comprueba /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, y comprueba el log de apache cuando
 se inicia.

 Y lo que han dicho los demás: ¿qué estás haciendo, y porqué sabes que
 falla?


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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 15 de mayo de 2010 14:46, yordanis
yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Felix Perez escribió:

 Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
 de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
 equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
 suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
 bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
 squid hacerlo así:
 modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
 controlados (40)
                             |-switch -  red sin
 restricciones (3)

 Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

 Saludos.



 Por supuesto que te va a funcionar, pero tal vez deberías considerar en
 mejorarle un poco la ram. Además, nada se pierde con probar  :)


Gracias a todos por sus respuestas, claro esta que lo voy a probar,
luego comentaré mis experiencias por este mismo medio.

Suerte.


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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread Gonzalo L. Campos Medina
El 15/05/10, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
 de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
 equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
 suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
 bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
 squid hacerlo así:
 modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
 controlados (40)
  |-switch -  red sin
 restricciones (3)

 Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

 Saludos.
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Para un servicio eficiente procura conseguir mucho más memoria unos
512MB sería ideal para tu P3, además de un disco IDE rápido de
7200RPM.

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Re: [OT] necesidades de maquina para un servidor squid

2010-05-15 Thread Felix Perez
El día 16 de mayo de 2010 00:46, Gonzalo L. Campos Medina
gcamp...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 15/05/10, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola estimados, debo instalar un servidor squid, para una ong (hogar
 de estudiantes) que no cuenta con muchos recursos y tengo a mano un
 equipo pentium III con 128MB de ram y un disco de 40 o 60 GB, ¿sería
 suficiente para manejar unos 40 usuarios? con una conexion de 2mb
 bajada y 256kb de subida.  He pensado para no complicar la config del
 squid hacerlo así:
 modems dsl  router  pc squid -- switch a red usuarios
 controlados (40)
                              |-switch -  red sin
 restricciones (3)

 Cualquier aporte se agradece de antemano.

 Saludos.
 --
 Estimado Félix:

 Para un servicio eficiente procura conseguir mucho más memoria unos
 512MB sería ideal para tu P3, además de un disco IDE rápido de
 7200RPM.

Gracias por tu aporte, lo de la memoria los estoy viendo,el disco es
un Ide de 5400rpm y no creo que pueda conseguir nada más, este equipo
solo se usara para esto, solo squid y trataré de dejarlo con una
instalación lo más simple posible.
 La ídea es evitar la caída de la red por el abuso de descargas,
videos  y juegos online.

Nuevamente mil gracias, han sido de mucha ayuda.



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duda

2010-05-15 Thread asdf asdf

no se por donde empesar creo q por decir hola...mi pregunta es q tengo una 
tarjeta madre gigabyte P55-US3L y quiero instalar linux debian...pero no se si 
este sistema tenga soporte para mi motherboard q me reconosca todos los 
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Re: XFS: idiotfråga?

2010-05-15 Thread Anders Jackson
Hej.

Den 13 maj 2010 12.13 skrev Martin Burman mar...@default.nu:
 Jag brukar använda XFS på USB-diskar och håller precis på att göra iordning
 en ny.
 Jag hörde i korridoren att man kan köra XFS direkt på en device (alltså
 direkt på /dev/sdb i mitt fall, ingen sdb1-partition som är skapad via fdisk
 alltså) och provar detta och det ser ut att fungera fint.

Det fungerar utmärkt.  /dev/sdb är ju disken, åtkomlig som
blockdevice, precis som /dev/sdb1.
Skillnaden är att /dev/sdb är utan partitioner, medans /dev/sdb1 är
första partionen på /dev/sdb.  Men vill du inte partitionera disken,
så fungerar det ju utmärkt att använda direkt.  Men utan
parrtitionering, så kommer du inte att ha något som du kan boota
ifrån, eftersom BIOS (eller vilken version av bootprogram du har i din
maskin) hitta något startprogam (som GRUB). Den informationen finns ju
i partitionen.

 Man-sidan säger An XFS filesystem can reside on a regular disk partition or
 on a logical volume.
 Jag har alltid betraktat t.ex /dev/sda som en rådevice vilket gör att texten
 inte stämmer men det kanske är fel?
 När jag söker hittar jag en och annan sida som säger att man ska välja
 filsystem typ 83 vilket jag brukar göra annars, en del sidor nämner inget
 men av copy-pastet från forumen verkar en del köra direkt på devicen.

Partitioner och filsystem är datastrukturer lagrat på en enhet med
data grupperat i block. För att du skall slippa hantera blocken
direkt, så har vi filsystemen (och partitionssystem, det finns flera
olika varianter, inte bara MSDOS-varianten).

 Jag ser kort och gott att det verkar funka men det gnager: har jag gjort
 något dumt? Är det man Puckad(tm) ifall man gör så här.

Beror på, om man vet vad man vill och gör :)

 Jag vill bara maxa ut max lagringsplats och ha en stabil, datasäker
 lagringsplats. Allt annat är sekundärt.

Om du vill maximera diskutnyttjandet, så fungerar det utmärkt utan
partitioner, så länge du inte förväntar dig att automatiska system
skall förstå det och avstå från att erbjuda sig att partitionera om
din USB-sticka (eller något liknanade)

 Hälsningar Martin

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aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
Bom dia GNUsers Debianos!

uso o squeeze, sempre dou um aptitude update e depois upgrade, so que ele ta
mostrando que vai remover um monte coisa, como faço para não remover nada!

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previous de som

2010-05-15 Thread Carlos Nazareth
Como habilito o previous de som no nautilus?

Estou utilizilando o debian lenny AMD64.

Pelo google achei o
http://www.forumdebian.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=3t=2274start=0

segui os passos mas não funcionou.


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Res: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Gerson Haus
Para não remover nada não faça nada. rsrsrsrs

Isso às vezes acontece na versão testing, e acho que depende dos pacotes que vc 
já instalou. Eu não sei explicar o motivo. O que eu faço é não fazer o upgrade, 
e vou verificando todos os dias. Normalmente em dois ou três dias volta ao 
normal. Aí vc volta a fazer o upgrade.
Eu uso o Synaptic. Atualmente não tenho tido este problema. Pode fazer isso: 
tenta o Synaptic para ver se resolve.

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Para: Debian BR-PT (lista de Discursão) 
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Assunto: aptitude

Bom dia GNUsers Debianos!

uso o squeeze, sempre dou um aptitude update e depois upgrade, so que ele ta 
mostrando que vai remover um monte coisa, como faço para não remover nada!

Obrigado!

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Re: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread André Nunes
Use o apt-get upgrade que só instala upgrades seguros (que não
impliquem a desinstalação ou instalação de outros pacotes). Ou então
vá no ambiente gráfico (se é que se pode dizer que é um ambiente
gráfico) do aptitude, aperte g, se houver problemas aperte e e vá
acertando manualmente as incompatibilidades que o aptitude anuncia.

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2010/5/15 Gerson Haus haus_cean...@yahoo.com.br:
 Para não remover nada não faça nada. rsrsrsrs

 Isso às vezes acontece na versão testing, e acho que depende dos pacotes que
 vc já instalou. Eu não sei explicar o motivo. O que eu faço é não fazer o
 upgrade, e vou verificando todos os dias. Normalmente em dois ou três dias
 volta ao normal. Aí vc volta a fazer o upgrade.
 Eu uso o Synaptic. Atualmente não tenho tido este problema. Pode fazer isso:
 tenta o Synaptic para ver se resolve.

 Att,
 Gerson.
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 De: Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito mareg...@gmail.com
 Para: Debian BR-PT (lista de Discursão)
 debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Sábado, 15 de Maio de 2010 8:18:06
 Assunto: aptitude

 Bom dia GNUsers Debianos!

 uso o squeeze, sempre dou um aptitude update e depois upgrade, so que ele ta
 mostrando que vai remover um monte coisa, como faço para não remover nada!

 Obrigado!

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Re: Res: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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On 15-05-2010 13:22, Gerson Haus wrote:
 Para não remover nada não faça nada. rsrsrsrs

Não é bem assim 

Use o aptitude safe-upgrade ou simplesmente a interface do aptitude e
marque e desmarque o que deseja instalar, atualizar ou manter.

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Re: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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On 15-05-2010 14:59, André Nunes wrote:
 Use o apt-get upgrade que só instala upgrades seguros (que não
 impliquem a desinstalação ou instalação de outros pacotes). 

Não creio que esta informação esteja correta.
Para a operação que você descreveu certo seria usar o aptitude
safe-upgrade como havia dito na mensagem anterior.

Ou então
 vá no ambiente gráfico (se é que se pode dizer que é um ambiente
 gráfico) do aptitude, aperte g, se houver problemas aperte e e vá
 acertando manualmente as incompatibilidades que o aptitude anuncia.

Isso aqui é verdade.

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Res: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Gerson Haus
Interessante: no meu teste, ambos os comandos aptitude (safe e full) upgrade 
informam a remoção de 27 pacotes. O apt-get não quer remover nada, assim como o 
Synaptic, que, conforme aprendi aqui, usa o apt-get (e confere). A interface 
gráfica do aptitude não me foi amigável. Não consegui fazer o teste. Já ouvi 
dizer que não é bom misturar a utilização de apt-get e aptitude.

O que parece aos senhores?

# aptitude full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information... Done
Initializing package states... Done   
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ia32-libs{u} ia32-libs-gtk{u} ia32-libs-xulrunner{u} lib32asound2{u} 
  lib32gcc1{u} lib32ncurses5{u} lib32stdc++6{u} lib32z1{u} libao2{u} 
  libboost-filesystem1.42.0{u} libboost-python1.40.0{u} 
  libboost-serialization1.42.0{u} libboost-system1.42.0{u} libcelt0{u} 
  libevince1{u} libgdata6{u} libgnome-desktop-2-11{u} libnet-daemon-perl{u} 
  libplrpc-perl{u} libtotem-plparser12{u} libtrackerclient0{u} 
  libx264-92{u} mythtv-doc{u} par2{u} pwgen{u} python-egenix-mxdatetime{u} 
  python-egenix-mxtools{u} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  grub-common grub-pc 
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 27 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,443kB of archives. After unpacking 146MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

# aptitude safe-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information... Done
Initializing package states... Done   
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ia32-libs{u} ia32-libs-gtk{u} ia32-libs-xulrunner{u} lib32asound2{u} 
  lib32gcc1{u} lib32ncurses5{u} lib32stdc++6{u} lib32z1{u} libao2{u} 
  libboost-filesystem1.42.0{u} libboost-python1.40.0{u} 
  libboost-serialization1.42.0{u} libboost-system1.42.0{u} libcelt0{u} 
  libevince1{u} libgdata6{u} libgnome-desktop-2-11{u} libnet-daemon-perl{u} 
  libplrpc-perl{u} libtotem-plparser12{u} libtrackerclient0{u} 
  libx264-92{u} mythtv-doc{u} par2{u} pwgen{u} python-egenix-mxdatetime{u} 
  python-egenix-mxtools{u} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  grub-common grub-pc 
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 27 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,443kB of archives. After unpacking 146MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n
Abort.

# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  grub-common grub-pc
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,443kB of archives.
After this operation, 262kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.


Ah... é claro que fiz apt-get update e aptitude update antes dos testes.

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Re: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread André Nunes
Nunca fui investigar o código-fonte para poder dizer com 100% de
certeza, mas posso garantir que o apt-get mantém paralizados os
pacotes cuja atualização implique a remoção ou instalação de outros
pacotes. Geralmente eu uso o apt-get e só vou pro aptitude quando
alguns pacotes ficam congelados por muitos dias.

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 Use o apt-get upgrade que só instala upgrades seguros (que não
 impliquem a desinstalação ou instalação de outros pacotes).

 Não creio que esta informação esteja correta.
 Para a operação que você descreveu certo seria usar o aptitude
 safe-upgrade como havia dito na mensagem anterior.

Ou então
 vá no ambiente gráfico (se é que se pode dizer que é um ambiente
 gráfico) do aptitude, aperte g, se houver problemas aperte e e vá
 acertando manualmente as incompatibilidades que o aptitude anuncia.

 Isso aqui é verdade.

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Res: Mensagem Icedove

2010-05-15 Thread Gerson Haus
No caso específico, não há nada no corpo da mensagem. Então, o que no cabeçalho 
faria o Icedove dar o alerta  Esta mensagem pode ser um golpe ?

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Re: aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Ricardo Esdra
olha ao se usar uma versão testing [no caso squeeze] pode haver certos 
problemas,

nunca confie segamente em apt-get/aptitude

tempo atrás em uma lista debian, vi eles orientando a usar aptitude ao 
invés de apt-get,

por causa de um melhor gerenciamento de pacotes.


quanto aos comandos no aptitude é indicado,
update
safe-upgrade
dist-upgrade


aqui ainda não uso squeeze, pois estou esperando ele entrar em freeze, o 
que deve ocorrer

dentro de uns 30 dias ou um pouco menos, se não houver mais atraso.



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Re: Programming question

2010-05-15 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 20:32 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: 
 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:34, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
  Hi
 
  I was wondering if it is possible to decode this javascript from the
  command line
 
 
  var serializer = new Serializer()
  serializer.deserialize('B64ENCe30=')
 
  can't find any reference on how serialize works and can't find any
  cmdline tools to help
 
 A Javascript (or at least a general programming) mailing list/forum
 might be a better place to ask.
true

 
 Also some context might be nice. I am not a JS programmer, but
 I think serializer could theoretically be anything. That said, JSON
 is a common data format in JS, so you might look into that (although
 I would expect something more like JSON.serialize() if it was).
 Otherwise it might be XML of some sort.
it comes from a web stock trading site, it is used to display the daily
ticker move as a graph.  I was hoping to write a script to extract the
data.  But as Dave pointed out in the other reply, there are probably
encoding and decoding functions used as well :(

 
 I am really not sure what to make of the argument being passed
 in, it looks like a it's talking about Base 64 encoding (B64ENC),
 but why that's in the name I don't know

I was actually hoping there was some standard way to (de)serialize in
javascript.

I guess I am going to have to do some more digging :)

Thanks

 
 
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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote:
 Hi,

 With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in
 the cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say, ubuntu
 or even sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome, etc. Maybe
 using unstable or experimental repo? I'm sure there's many ways to do this,
 but I just don't know.. I'm new to debian :(

If you want the latest I'd run either testing or unstable. I have both stable 
and unstable installed. Most of the time I run unstable.


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/15/2010 01:14 AM, Alan Ianson wrote:

On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote:

Hi,

With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in
the cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say, ubuntu
or even sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome, etc. Maybe
using unstable or experimental repo? I'm sure there's many ways to do this,
but I just don't know.. I'm new to debian :(


If you want the latest I'd run either testing or unstable. I have both stable
and unstable installed. Most of the time I run unstable.



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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread RyanJB
If you want the latest I'd run either testing
or unstable. I have both stable
and unstable installed.
Most of the time I run unstable.

So considering that, the extra debian iso have practically no use since later 
I'll be upgrading packets from sid anyway?? Any clarifications?

Thanks,
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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri May 14 2010 11:43:41 pm RyanJB wrote:
 If you want the latest I'd run either testing
 or unstable. I have both stable
 and unstable installed.
 Most of the time I run unstable.

 So considering that, the extra debian iso have practically no use since
 later I'll be upgrading packets from sid anyway?? Any clarifications?

I'm not sure what you mean. What is an extra iso?

You mean the full set of CD or DVD images? I find a net install works best 
nowadays. Then you just download and install packages as you want to.

The archive is simply huge now so it's a lot to download and burn unless you 
have machines that are not connected to the net that you want to install or 
update.


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread RyanJB
Ahh, I mean the other CDs beside the required CD 1 for the installation.. As 
for the net install, I'm not always connected to the internet.. Just too bad... 
:(
-Original Message-
From: Alan Ianson agian...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 00:02:41 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to keep debian current??

On Fri May 14 2010 11:43:41 pm RyanJB wrote:
 If you want the latest I'd run either testing
 or unstable. I have both stable
 and unstable installed.
 Most of the time I run unstable.

 So considering that, the extra debian iso have practically no use since
 later I'll be upgrading packets from sid anyway?? Any clarifications?

I'm not sure what you mean. What is an extra iso?

You mean the full set of CD or DVD images? I find a net install works best 
nowadays. Then you just download and install packages as you want to.

The archive is simply huge now so it's a lot to download and burn unless you 
have machines that are not connected to the net that you want to install or 
update.


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More important question... (was Re: How to keep debian current??)

2010-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson
Since your Internet connection is spotty and you want to stay 
relatively up-to-date and you're new, why not stay with Ubuntu (or 
Sidux, for that matter)?


I used Mandrake for a year or so, then Libranet (spiritual 
predecessor to Ubuntu) before making the Debian plunge.  It greatly 
helped to get me acclimated to the hard-core.


On 05/14/2010 11:48 PM, RyanJB wrote:

Hi,

With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep
debian in the cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as
updated as, say, ubuntu or even sidux?? You know, latest
iceweasel, openoffice, gnome, etc. Maybe using unstable or
experimental repo? I'm sure there's many ways to do this, but I
just don't know.. I'm new to debian :(



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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson

RyanJB wrote:


I find a net install works best 
nowadays. Then you just download and install packages as you want to.


The archive is simply huge now so it's a lot to download and burn unless you 
have machines that are not connected to the net that you want to install or 
update.



Yes, start with a testing netinst www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
and install the base and then add the sid repos and do an aptitude 
full-upgrade to the base, after that you can start to build your 
testing/unstable system the way you want it.

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri May 14 2010 11:22:54 pm Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 05/15/2010 01:14 AM, Alan Ianson wrote:
  On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote:
  Hi,
 
  With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in
  the cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say,
  ubuntu or even sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome,
  etc. Maybe using unstable or experimental repo? I'm sure there's many
  ways to do this, but I just don't know.. I'm new to debian :(
 
  If you want the latest I'd run either testing or unstable. I have both
  stable and unstable installed. Most of the time I run unstable.

 +1 Sid/Unstable

Yep, even though it's called unstable it's like a rock.. :)


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Re: MD subsystem is not loaded

2010-05-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com [2010.05.14.1603 +0200]:
 How does one load the MD subsystem?

You use it. Unless you use it, you don't need mdadm installed.

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Re: executable won't execute

2010-05-15 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
Hi,

 [readelf output]
 
 ELF Header:
 [...]

  INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R   0x1
  [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3]

That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling shows that
Redhat and Suse seem to be using that one now. A missing linker is,
by the way, the only other reason for execve() to return ENOENT (file
not found) I know of - missing dependencies produce a different error.

Anyway, Debian still has /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - you could try symlinking
them, but I doubt it will work.


Regards,

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Re: executable won't execute

2010-05-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:

 [readelf output]
 
 ELF Header:
 [...]

  INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R   0x1
  [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3]

 That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling shows that
 Redhat and Suse seem to be using that one now. A missing linker is,
 by the way, the only other reason for execve() to return ENOENT (file
 not found) I know of - missing dependencies produce a different error.

 Anyway, Debian still has /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - you could try symlinking
 them, but I doubt it will work.

Why not?  Do you think that Redhat and Suse do something else?  Anyway,
this symlink should be in the lsb-core package; it was added in 3.0.6
(see #326609¹) but seems to have gone AWOL since then.

Sven


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Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

2010-05-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
B. Alexander put forth on 5/14/2010 10:12 PM:
 IMHO, Debian seems to have the best record of successful upgrades.

I've in-place upgraded one of my production servers from Woody through Lenny
with only relatively minor issues.  I've been thoroughly impressed by
Debian's dist upgrade reliability since I starting using the distro in 2000.

Always read the release notes and other related docs before performing your
dist upgrade.  Failing to do so may cause unnecessary problems.

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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 May 2010 00:27:32 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 Am 2010-05-14 19:06:06, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

(...)
 
 So the reality is that anyone wanting to view a flash based site has to
 have Adobe Flash player installed as is the only one able to fully
 support all the features listed in their open specs.
 
 THE SPECS ARE OPEN and if the Open Source Community is not able or  even
 willing to implement it, it is NOT THE FAULT of Adobe.

No need to SHOUT. I read all the messages in the same manner.

The specs are open... o.k., now so it seems. Since 2008, just 2 years 
ago, which is good, but Adobe, since the adquisition of Macromedia on 
2005, was holding all the rights on Flash format.

(not having a good FLOSS Flash player) Not the fault of Adobe Of 
course not! The fault of Adobe, and this is my personal POW, is 
developing a very bad quality flash player, for all the users (windows, 
linux, Solaris). 

Heck, how in the hell can a company provide such players if they are the 
developers of the product the players are handling (.swf)? I cannot 
understand that, and that precisely makes me doubt about the quality of 
the format they are trying to populate and rise.

That said, even they (they=Adobe)now open the specs for Flash I will 
avoid either using it or promoting as much as I can.

flashback mode on

In the times I worked as webmaster and web designer (now sysadmin), 
people (clients, partners and my company) urged me to adopt flash 
technology, just because looked nice and, (sic) hey, anyone has the 
Flash Player installed so it was also kinda cross-platform. 

Yes, Flash Player was (is) available for many systems but the fact is 
that that did not change my perception about the suitability of using it.

There is nothing you couldn't do with standard html technologies 
(javascript, css, dom...) that Flash can, so why bother about spending 
time and money in acquiring a license for Adobe products that were (in 
those times) the only powerful ones that allowed the development of rich 
sites (rich site → Adobe dixit)?

Why bother if there was only a unique Flash player out there and was 
pretty bad quality? Why forcing my users to have to use such player if 
there were alternatives in a very good shape that were open and 
compatible?

My perception is that web developers wrongly refugiated into flash to 
escape from the incompatibilities of the web browers, any of them 
applying different renderings of the elements of the page layout and not 
following the W3C standards. Yes, Firefox and Opera had also their own 
glicthes and of course, Internet Explorer.

So web developers, instead trying to compatibilize the 
incompatibilities of the browsers by making a more fine-grained code, 
they took the easy path and just fall into the arms of Flash format: 
format was bad but hey, at least it renedered the site in the same manner 
in all the browsers :-)

And then it came html5, promoting open standard ways to handle video and 
audio... ooops, Adobe must thought their Flash format will be forgotten 
and lost in the Helm's Deep if html5 will succeed, so the decided to open 
Flash to be more user-friendly and calm down the accusations about 
monopolistic tactics, being their flash player installed in more than 95% 
of the computers :-)

Adn here we are now, with Adobe developing, promoting and enforcing DRM 
technologies in their products and, OTOH providing an open spec for 
flash... quite contradictory :-)

That is my personal opinion, of course.

flashback mode off/
 
 And the same situation goes for Adobe Reader for Linux. I dunno what is
 going on with Adobe but true is that I dislike the path is taking that
 company :-/
 
 I am using Debian GNU/Linux since over 11 years and I have more then  20
 commercial progras like Eagle, FAB3000 and VariCAD with a total value of
 more then 80.000 Euro  installed,  because  there  are  NO  Open  Source
 equivalents available.

I have nothing against good quality programs, even they are closed source 
or commercial. But Acrobat products does not fall into that category :-)
 
 ...and no, gEda is NO OPTION du to the incompatible Gerber  outputs  and
 it can not handel Layots with BGA 421 and bigger plus  correct  handling
 of more then 4 Signal layers (I need at least 8).  Auto-Router? Oh Hell!

I now that. I'm working for a engineering company, and I'm forced (is 
market demand, we need a 110% compatibilty with our partners and they use 
AutoCAD...) to use such products.

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Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

2010-05-15 Thread godo

On 05/15/2010 04:25 AM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,

Just one question,

Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso 
and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently 
still using lenny.

Thanks
RJB
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Hi,
I'm beginner and desktop user but never had any problem with upgrade, 
well have one minor but it's my fault not Debian.

One box upgraded Lenny to Squeeze, other Squeeze to Sid.

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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 May 2010 01:07:28 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

 Hello Camaleón,
 
 Am 2010-05-14 21:39:38, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 You must be kidding. Or at least you must be unaware about the
 existence of pdftk toolkit, iTex and gnupdf library, xournal or
 pdfedit, a set of applications and frameworks available in this
 GNU/Linux world, intended for PDF editing and manipulation.
 
 I was NEVER able to edit a singel PDF file...
 
 And of course it was NOT the idea of Adobe, to let users edit PDF files.
 PDF was created as portable static file format.

But now *it is*.

With Acrobat Professional, you can even put a HD movie or 3D elements 
embedded into a PDF file :-)

I don't need such monstruosities, but adding a simple link, making 
annotations or just modifying the metatags is a fair use of a PDF.
 
 There is more than PDF/A (a PDF spec for archiving purposes) out there.
 
 There are better formats for it

Maybe... but Hylafax (fax server) uses a PDF (or TIF or PS) format to 
manage received documents and many people maybe in the need of editing 
them.
 
 Have you ever heard about PDF forms (editing required), about adding
 bookmarks inside a PDF file structure, about making annotations or
 markups or just creating a link?
 
 Bookmarks and/or Annotations are not even stored in the PDF with the
 Adobe Acrobat Reader...

But I'm not talking about PDF readers features, but PDF editors 
features. 
 
 There are many situations where the user has the PDF file but lacks the
 original document, and if you want to perform any modification in that
 file, we (linux users) are stuck :-/
 
 PDFs are not inted to be editable.  It is not the intend by Adobe to  do
 modifications once it was created.

Again... are you kidding? Or have you ever worked with Acrobat 
Professional? It's all about PDF editing!
 
 If I think on the Invoices i send per EMail...  Users could  modify  the
 file and fool the Revenue/customs Office or whatelse... and if something
 goes wrong, the could claim, I have the PDF invoice send like this.

Linux PDF readers are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even have 
Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems.

It's about editing PDF files in linux what we are talking about.
 
 Note:   I have a secured Off-Line Archive with such documents
 and invoices plus there MD5 and SHA384 sums.  So even if I
 output the PDF-Invoice on my OnlineStore, it  is automaticaly
 saved as copy on another system.
 
 And requesting a second  copy  will  NOT  CREATE  the invoice
 from scratch, but take the from  the  archive since it must be
 the VERY original

Yes, that's fine.
 
 There are many things you are missing here...

There are many more things you seem to simply bypass (or ignore) about 
PDF format. PDF v1.3 lacks most of the PDF v1.7 features and abilities, 
which is normal, being the 9 years in between each of them.

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread RyanJB
Final thoughts,

After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install some 
package from sid..

Thanks everyone for the help. Appreciated it a lot :)

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,15.May.10, 00:33:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
 
 Yes, start with a testing netinst
 www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and install the base and then
 add the sid repos and do an aptitude full-upgrade to the base, after
 that you can start to build your testing/unstable system the way you
 want it.

Or use the business-card image with boot option 'priority=medium' and 
install unstable directly ;)

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Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
 There are many very proper pdf viewers that handle the auto-refresh very
 well. Since pdf got ISO certified, many apps included functionality like
 forms. I use okular and kpdf, which do a very good job in rendering also
 the complex documents with new pdf stuff (animated transitions,
 animated gif-like behaviour etcetera etcetera. Acrobat does so as
 well, but is just not convenient to use for documents you're currently
 texxing.
   
Thanks.

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Re: VLC will lag when reading local videos, whatever the codec

2010-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:18:50 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 When watching videos locally, with VLC, it often lags at some parts of
 the videos, and the following kinds of messages are displayed at the
 console:
 
 ==
 [some time] main video output error: picture [hexadecimal ref.] refcount
 is -1 overflow in spectral RLE, ignoring
 ==
 
 The [some time] references are often ~40 times separated, i.e. I could
 get
 
 ==
 [0010] main video output error: picture [hexadecimal ref.] refcount
 is -1 [0050] main video output error: picture [hexadecimal ref.]
 refcount is -1 .
 .
 .
 ==

Does this happen if you play the videos with another media player (Totem, 
Xine, MPlayer, etc...)?
 
 It does not only happen with Матрёшка files (.mkv). (I here test if Gnus
 supports cyrillic out-of-the-box.)

Test for cyrilic characters has been passed successfully :-)
 
 Is it normal? 

No.

 Does it happen often with videos? 

No, but I guess it would depend on many factors, i.e., good hardware 
(graphic card chipset) is required to avoid video jumps, lags or pauses. 
Also, the transmission method is important. Playing HD video files over 
the network (remotely by Internet or locally by means of samba or NFS) it 
could also affect. Moreover, playing the video files wirelessly, can 
harden the situation.

 What would it be due to?

Many causes. But if the file plays fine with another player, you can 
blame VLC :-)

 Are they corrupted?

Test with another media player, that will tell.

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-05-15, RyanJB ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote:
 Final thoughts,

 After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install some 
 package from sid..


Be careful. Packages from sid are not (intended to be) compatible with
lenny. Consider using backports (http://www.backports.org) instead.

 Thanks everyone for the help. Appreciated it a lot :)

 RJB



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Installing wireless driver offline

2010-05-15 Thread RyanJB
Hi everyone,

I think I've just commited a mistake here. My wireless driver in my laptop is 
iwl3945, which is not available by default in a fresh lenny install.. But 
without it I can't connect to the net to install it.. Anyone know any 
workarounds?? Can I download the package from another computer and transfer it 
to my laptop?

Thanks,
RJB


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How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi,

Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and
consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How
can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you
have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an interesting thing
to split them among the diferent connections.

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Re: Installing wireless driver offline

2010-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,15.May.10, 11:21:06, RyanJB wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I think I've just commited a mistake here. My wireless driver in my 
 laptop is iwl3945, which is not available by default in a fresh lenny 
 install.. But without it I can't connect to the net to install it.. 
 Anyone know any workarounds?? Can I download the package from another 
 computer and transfer it to my laptop?

Yes, you need the firmware-iwlwifi package:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/firmware-iwlwifi

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how to disable audio and usb mount for users

2010-05-15 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
I want to refuse access  for some users to usb pen and audio.

In previous releases (debian, ubuntu , debian-based ..) , it is  enough to
remove the user from the group.
that is in /etc/group
audio:x:29:bela
plugdev:x:46:bela,geol


with  theses lines :  bela can heard sound, but not geol,for bela and
geol  the usb pen is automatically mounted.
But not for nobody else.

It is NOT the case in the new release, I mean, even if I remove a user from
the  plugdev  group,  the usb pen is automatically mounted for that user.

thanks for help
bets regards


Re: X starting but nothing shows on the screen

2010-05-15 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:42:07PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2010-05-08 12:42 +0200, Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote:
 
  Hello, I have a strange problem.
 
  If X is started from gdm at bootup or with /etc/init.d/gdm start then
  it starts (I know this since it beeps when it is up and running) but
  nothing shows on the screen. The same thing happens when I use startx
  and I have icewm in my .xinitrc. But if I have no .xinitrc file and I
  use startx then Gnome comes up fine.
 
 This is indeed very strange.
 
  I am using sid and have just made an upgrade to my system (I hadn't
  done a upgrade in quite a while and did an upgrade a few days ago then
  my problems started) so it is up to date.
 
  Any ideas on what could be wrong here?

Just did a aptitude safe-upgrade that pulled in a new version of the
intel driver, no change in behaviour.

Óli


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 +, RyanJB wrote:
 After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install
 some package from sid..

That is probbaly the worst way to deal with your need for newer
software, as it is quite hard to keep a mixed stable/sid system that
could be considered stable as defined by Debian.

Given that you claim to be inexperienced with Debian and/or .deb based
distributions in general I would suggest one of the following ways to
cure your shiny new shit syndrome ;)

1. Stable + backports

This is probably the easiest way to get newer versions for packages
given that they have been backported. You can find instructions on how
to use backports on:

http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

2. Stable + backports + simple sid backports

If you need packages from sid that have not yet been backported, you
can try to backport them yourself given that their dependencies can be
satisfied in stable. The basic way to deal with this is:

a. Add ONLY a deb-src ... line for sid to your sources.list.  
b. apt-get update / aptitude update 
c. aptitude install build-essential 
   apt-get build-dep packagename
   apt-get -b source packagename 
d. Install the resultant debs.

This last two approaches work well if you just need the newer version
for a couple of packages, for example if the version of apache2 shipped
with lenny does not support a feature you need. 

I am not sure if that is enough for you, but you might want to ask
yourself first what you are trying to achieve eventually. *Why* do you
need newer versions? What are you doing with your computer? What are
your usage patterns? What features are missing from lenny that you
*really* need?

If you need them, just because you *always* want the newest upstream
release, you can consider one of the following approaches:

3. Run testing or sid

I think that running testing or sid is what you *might* actually want,
but you have to prepare yourself for the occasional problem you have to
fix yourself and you might need a sound understanding of Linux and
Debian packaging in order to fix *some* of the  problems that you might
run into.

That being said, I want to point out that I have been tracking testing
for some time now and rarely faced an issue I could not fix. Moreover
testing (and sid?) is actually quite stable (in the sense of not
breaking your system) and might be the best choice for your.

In particular I have made good experiences with the following scheme:

1. Track stable for 6-12 months after the release
2. Track testing until it is released as stable
3. Goto 1

4. Use a different distribution

Why don't you use one of the Debian-based distribution until you are
more comfortable with Linux and Debian administration and therefore able
to fix the occasional problem you might run into yourself?

Don't get me wrong here - I don't want to argue against Debian, but
there might actually be distributions that are developed with users like
you in mind and you might actually be happier using one of those.

Having said all that, I would suggest the following:

Run stable and familiarise yourself with Debian and Linux, by reading
the following manuals: (excerpts from the dpkg bot on #debian)

1. Debian Reference

The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian.  The
latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ .
Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the
closest thing Debian has to a manual.  You can install this too, the package
name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference'

2. Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition.

A fantastic book that is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/, can be
purchased at Borders, or install the rutebook package from non-free.  It covers
Linux in a very non-distribution specific method.  The start of the book is
Binary and Octal and ends with Security Auditing.

3. Newbiedoc

http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation

Once you are familiar with Linux and Debian upgrade to testing and enjoy
the pleasures of a rolling release.

Have fun

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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Steve Fishpaste
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered:
 Hello Steve Fishpaste,
 
 Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
  There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know. 8) Got to be
  careful being so inclusive. There are many uses for PDFs other than
  for archival purposes. Printers for example take PDFs and often need to 
  'edit'
  them. That's where the original idea to have a PDF editor originated.
 
 For WHAT reason a printer need to EDIT a PDF?

To edit it of course! That's why many printers have prepress departments.
PDFs were originally used in the publishing world exclusively. Many times
designers make mistakes that need to be corrected before going on press
or there are simply edits to be made to information that has changed
prior to press time. It's done all the time! Same with CAD drawings
that have to be annotated and signed off on, and or any document
workflow where documents are proofed and annotated.

PDFs are used because it's a package container with the fonts and
images included, not because it's considered an end use format.


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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 15 May 2010 01:07:28 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
snip
 Linux PDF readers are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even have 
 Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems.
snip
I thought this, too, until recently when working with companies which
use PDF heavily.  I had always used KPDF as it seemed so much lighter
and faster than acroread.  However, it has only a very small portion of
the full functionality of acroread.  I had never noticed but our clients
did.

It's everything from small things (like mousing into to lower left
corner and seeing the document size -very handy for non-standard sizes
such as construction drawings) to the massive printing problem that
afflicts all other Linux pdf readers - at least in Lenny, no pdf reader
could print non-default print sizes.  No matter what we did, every
single PDF reader we tried insisted on printing to the default paper
size.  Apparently this is a well known bug from the hours of searching
we did.  Only acroread would let our client print their construction
drawings without shrinking them down letter or A4 size - John



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Re: executable won't execute

2010-05-15 Thread Anand Sivaram
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:45, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:

  [readelf output]
 
  ELF Header:
  [...]
 
   INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011 R   0x1
   [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3]
 
  That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling shows that
  Redhat and Suse seem to be using that one now. A missing linker is,
  by the way, the only other reason for execve() to return ENOENT (file
  not found) I know of - missing dependencies produce a different error.
 
  Anyway, Debian still has /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - you could try symlinking
  them, but I doubt it will work.

 Why not?  Do you think that Redhat and Suse do something else?  Anyway,
 this symlink should be in the lsb-core package; it was added in 3.0.6
 (see #326609š) but seems to have gone AWOL since then.

 Sven


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This is a binary only executable, correct?  What is the system requirement
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some other system like redhat, suse etc.  you could always create a chroot
of that, try to execute your binary inside the chroot.


Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 13:55 +0200, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 +, RyanJB wrote:
  After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install
  some package from sid..
 
 That is probbaly the worst way to deal with your need for newer
 software, as it is quite hard to keep a mixed stable/sid system that
 could be considered stable as defined by Debian.
 
 Given that you claim to be inexperienced with Debian and/or .deb based
 distributions in general I would suggest one of the following ways to
 cure your shiny new shit syndrome ;)
 
 1. Stable + backports
 
 This is probably the easiest way to get newer versions for packages
 given that they have been backported. You can find instructions on how
 to use backports on:
 
 http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions
 
 2. Stable + backports + simple sid backports
 
 If you need packages from sid that have not yet been backported, you
 can try to backport them yourself given that their dependencies can be
 satisfied in stable. The basic way to deal with this is:
 
 a. Add ONLY a deb-src ... line for sid to your sources.list.  
 b. apt-get update / aptitude update 
 c. aptitude install build-essential 
apt-get build-dep packagename
apt-get -b source packagename 
 d. Install the resultant debs.
 
 This last two approaches work well if you just need the newer version
 for a couple of packages, for example if the version of apache2 shipped
 with lenny does not support a feature you need. 
 
 I am not sure if that is enough for you, but you might want to ask
 yourself first what you are trying to achieve eventually. *Why* do you
 need newer versions? What are you doing with your computer? What are
 your usage patterns? What features are missing from lenny that you
 *really* need?
 
 If you need them, just because you *always* want the newest upstream
 release, you can consider one of the following approaches:
 
 3. Run testing or sid
 
 I think that running testing or sid is what you *might* actually want,
 but you have to prepare yourself for the occasional problem you have to
 fix yourself and you might need a sound understanding of Linux and
 Debian packaging in order to fix *some* of the  problems that you might
 run into.
 
 That being said, I want to point out that I have been tracking testing
 for some time now and rarely faced an issue I could not fix. Moreover
 testing (and sid?) is actually quite stable (in the sense of not
 breaking your system) and might be the best choice for your.
 
 In particular I have made good experiences with the following scheme:
 
 1. Track stable for 6-12 months after the release
 2. Track testing until it is released as stable
 3. Goto 1
 
 4. Use a different distribution
 
 Why don't you use one of the Debian-based distribution until you are
 more comfortable with Linux and Debian administration and therefore able
 to fix the occasional problem you might run into yourself?
 
 Don't get me wrong here - I don't want to argue against Debian, but
 there might actually be distributions that are developed with users like
 you in mind and you might actually be happier using one of those.
 
 Having said all that, I would suggest the following:
 
 Run stable and familiarise yourself with Debian and Linux, by reading
 the following manuals: (excerpts from the dpkg bot on #debian)
 
 1. Debian Reference
 
 The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian.  The
 latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ 
 .
 Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the
 closest thing Debian has to a manual.  You can install this too, the package
 name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference'
 
 2. Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition.
 
 A fantastic book that is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/, can be
 purchased at Borders, or install the rutebook package from non-free.  It 
 covers
 Linux in a very non-distribution specific method.  The start of the book is
 Binary and Octal and ends with Security Auditing.
 
 3. Newbiedoc
 
 http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation
 
 Once you are familiar with Linux and Debian upgrade to testing and enjoy
 the pleasures of a rolling release.
Thank you for such an excellent response.  I was going to comment that
Squeeze and Sid are more stable than many distributions but they still
have their issues.  We had very much wanted to use Squeeze for a
potentially large but enterprise class deployment.  After considerable
testing, we opted for Lenny + backports + the occasional adaptation from
Squeeze where absolutely necessary.

Most of our postponement of Squeeze was due to KDE 4.x which seemed an
excellent idea but not yet ready for enterprise use and we even tested
using Gnome but found there were other issues.  Again, thanks for an
excellent response which I'm sure took some time to craft - John


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread RyanJB
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up a new 
documentation for this problem ;)

I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is actually only a 
stable home system. I do favor current apps though; I often use betas (but not 
alphas), but I can live with old apps.

Thanks again,
RJB
-Original Message-
From: Wolodja Wentland wentl...@cl.uni-heidelberg.de
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:55:55 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How to keep debian current??

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:12 +, RyanJB wrote:
 After much considering, I think I'll stick to lenny but I will install
 some package from sid..

That is probbaly the worst way to deal with your need for newer
software, as it is quite hard to keep a mixed stable/sid system that
could be considered stable as defined by Debian.

Given that you claim to be inexperienced with Debian and/or .deb based
distributions in general I would suggest one of the following ways to
cure your shiny new shit syndrome ;)

1. Stable + backports

This is probably the easiest way to get newer versions for packages
given that they have been backported. You can find instructions on how
to use backports on:

http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

2. Stable + backports + simple sid backports

If you need packages from sid that have not yet been backported, you
can try to backport them yourself given that their dependencies can be
satisfied in stable. The basic way to deal with this is:

a. Add ONLY a deb-src ... line for sid to your sources.list.  
b. apt-get update / aptitude update 
c. aptitude install build-essential 
   apt-get build-dep packagename
   apt-get -b source packagename 
d. Install the resultant debs.

This last two approaches work well if you just need the newer version
for a couple of packages, for example if the version of apache2 shipped
with lenny does not support a feature you need. 

I am not sure if that is enough for you, but you might want to ask
yourself first what you are trying to achieve eventually. *Why* do you
need newer versions? What are you doing with your computer? What are
your usage patterns? What features are missing from lenny that you
*really* need?

If you need them, just because you *always* want the newest upstream
release, you can consider one of the following approaches:

3. Run testing or sid

I think that running testing or sid is what you *might* actually want,
but you have to prepare yourself for the occasional problem you have to
fix yourself and you might need a sound understanding of Linux and
Debian packaging in order to fix *some* of the  problems that you might
run into.

That being said, I want to point out that I have been tracking testing
for some time now and rarely faced an issue I could not fix. Moreover
testing (and sid?) is actually quite stable (in the sense of not
breaking your system) and might be the best choice for your.

In particular I have made good experiences with the following scheme:

1. Track stable for 6-12 months after the release
2. Track testing until it is released as stable
3. Goto 1

4. Use a different distribution

Why don't you use one of the Debian-based distribution until you are
more comfortable with Linux and Debian administration and therefore able
to fix the occasional problem you might run into yourself?

Don't get me wrong here - I don't want to argue against Debian, but
there might actually be distributions that are developed with users like
you in mind and you might actually be happier using one of those.

Having said all that, I would suggest the following:

Run stable and familiarise yourself with Debian and Linux, by reading
the following manuals: (excerpts from the dpkg bot on #debian)

1. Debian Reference

The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian.  The
latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ .
Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the
closest thing Debian has to a manual.  You can install this too, the package
name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference'

2. Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition.

A fantastic book that is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/, can be
purchased at Borders, or install the rutebook package from non-free.  It covers
Linux in a very non-distribution specific method.  The start of the book is
Binary and Octal and ends with Security Auditing.

3. Newbiedoc

http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_help_documentation

Once you are familiar with Linux and Debian upgrade to testing and enjoy
the pleasures of a rolling release.

Have fun

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Re: executable won't execute

2010-05-15 Thread Kent West
On 5/14/10 6:17 PM, Andrew Reid wrote:
 On Thursday 13 May 2010 20:36:41 Kent West wrote:
   
 I'm trying to start a daemon for Maple v 14, but when I try to run it,
 the system complains that the file doesn't exist. What's up?

 wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/usr/local/Maple_Network_Tools/FLEXlm/11.7: ls -lh
 total 2.8M
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmcksum - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmdiag - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmdown - lmutil
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 854K 2010-05-13 16:04 lmgrd
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmhostid - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lminstall - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmremove - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmreread - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmstat - lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmswitchr - lmutil
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 979K 2010-05-13 16:04 lmutil
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff6 2010-05-13 16:04 lmver - lmutil
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 962K 2010-05-13 16:04 maplelmg

 wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/usr/local/Maple_Network_Tools/FLEXlm/11.7:
 sudo ./lmgrd
 sudo: unable to execute ./lmgrd: No such file or directory

 wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/usr/local/Maple_Network_Tools/FLEXlm/11.7: ldd
 lmgrd
 /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./lmgrd: No such file or directory
 
   That ldd can't see it is just weird.

   Is the directory NFS-mounted?
   

No, it's a local drive. I even tried downloading to and running it on a
completely separate Debian box, with the same results. I'm convinced now
it's not in the OS, but in the file somehow. I've sent an email to
Maplesoft to see if they can provide an answer.

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Ron Johnson

On 05/15/2010 08:16 AM, RyanJB wrote:

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up
a new documentation for this problem ;)

I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is
actually only a stable home system. I do favor current apps
though; I often use betas (but not alphas), but I can live with
old apps.



Then use Sid.  Lots of non-geeks do.

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Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

2010-05-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:48:31AM +0200, godo wrote:
 On 05/15/2010 04:25 AM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Just one question,
 
 Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new 
 iso and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. 
 Currently still using lenny.
 
 Thanks
 RJB
 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 Hi,
 I'm beginner and desktop user but never had any problem with
 upgrade, well have one minor but it's my fault not Debian.
 One box upgraded Lenny to Squeeze, other Squeeze to Sid.
 
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Just upgraded Lenny to Squeeze with aptitude update ; aptitude dist-upgrade

Repeated runs through eventually got it there though it did look scary to see 
quite as many broken packages at intermediate
steps.

Vim-common and vim-tiny wouldn't update - there's a conflict with a file in 
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One of the splash screen programs had a similar conflict and also stopped the 
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Re: executable won't execute

2010-05-15 Thread Kent West
On 5/15/10 7:56 AM, Anand Sivaram wrote:


 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 14:45, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de
 mailto:svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2010-05-15 11:04 +0200, Jan C. Nordholz wrote:

  [readelf output]
 
  ELF Header:
  [...]
 
   INTERP 0x000114 0x08048114 0x08048114 0x00011 0x00011
 R   0x1
   [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-lsb.so.3]
 
  That dynamic linker doesn't look right. A little googling shows that
  Redhat and Suse seem to be using that one now. A missing linker is,
  by the way, the only other reason for execve() to return ENOENT
 (file
  not found) I know of - missing dependencies produce a different
 error.
 
  Anyway, Debian still has /lib/ld-linux.so.2 - you could try
 symlinking
  them, but I doubt it will work.

 Why not?  Do you think that Redhat and Suse do something else?
  Anyway,
 this symlink should be in the lsb-core package; it was added in 3.0.6
 (see #326609š) but seems to have gone AWOL since then.

 Sven


 š http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=326609



You guys are brilliant! Awesome!

wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/lib: sudo ln -s ld-linux.so.2 ld-lsb.so.3

wes...@]goshen.acu.edu]:/usr/local/Maple_Network_Tools/FLEXlm/11.7:
./lmgrd  8:26:41 (lmgrd) ---
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   Please Note:
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   This log is intended for debug purposes only.
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   In order to capture accurate license
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   usage data into an organized repository,
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   please enable report logging. Use Acresso Software Inc.'s
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   software license administration  solution,
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   FLEXnet Manager, to  readily gain visibility
 8:26:41 (lmgrd)   into license usage data and to create

blah blah blah yada yada yada

Thanks!

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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 May 2010 08:52:21 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:

 On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 10:05 +, Camaleón wrote:

 Linux PDF readers are in a very good shape. In fact, I don't even
 have Acrobat Reader installed on my linux systems.

 I thought this, too, until recently when working with companies which
 use PDF heavily.  I had always used KPDF as it seemed so much lighter
 and faster than acroread.  However, it has only a very small portion of
 the full functionality of acroread.  I had never noticed but our clients
 did.

Acrobat Reader for linux has some nice features, I agree. One of them is 
the ability to print brochures and booklets in a easy way.

But is so bloat that I have discarded from any of my linux systems and  
use Evince almost exclusively (before Evince I was very happy with KPDF). 
On windows I try to install Foxit Reader or something similar.
 
 It's everything from small things (like mousing into to lower left
 corner and seeing the document size -very handy for non-standard sizes
 such as construction drawings) to the massive printing problem that
 afflicts all other Linux pdf readers - at least in Lenny, no pdf reader
 could print non-default print sizes.  No matter what we did, every
 single PDF reader we tried insisted on printing to the default paper
 size.  Apparently this is a well known bug from the hours of searching
 we did.  Only acroread would let our client print their construction
 drawings without shrinking them down letter or A4 size - John

Mmmm... I'm not sure to fully understand the problem :-?

I have a PDF file sized prc5 Envelope, Landscape (220 x 110 mm) which I 
open with Evince (2.22.2). Then I send the document for printing with any 
of our HP laserjet printers using the envelope feeder. I put the envelope 
in the tray, from Evince I go under File / Printer settings and from 
Paper size dropdown menu I choose DL Envelope. The output is printed 
correctly, obeying the size of the printed media (DL envelope) and fiting 
the text correctly into it.

Is that what are you referring about or are you (or your clients)  
experiencig another problem?

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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:23:09AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 05/15/2010 08:16 AM, RyanJB wrote:
 Thanks for the comprehensive reply, it's like you just whipped up
 a new documentation for this problem ;)
 
 I think it's best for me to run lenny with backport. My need is
 actually only a stable home system. I do favor current apps
 though; I often use betas (but not alphas), but I can live with
 old apps.
 
 
 Then use Sid.  Lots of non-geeks do.

Why??? I think he made a correct judgement. 

He said I can live with old apps.

He can always run sid in chroot or virtual machine.  But the fact that
he is asking this question is the proof, he should get to lern Debian
system now.

Once he will get to used to Debian system, he can do sid as I do or Ron
does.  But I think it is premature.  Give him few months, he will

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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Onur Aslan wrote:
 You're connecting internet via a gateway. You can set a gateway per host
 with route(8). When you set a gateway to a host, system will use this
 gateway to connect this host.
   
Sure, but how can I then download different files with different devices
(i.e. eth0 and eth1, for example)? How can I switch?

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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Onur Aslan
You're connecting internet via a gateway. You can set a gateway per host
with route(8). When you set a gateway to a host, system will use this
gateway to connect this host.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:22:24PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and
 consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How
 can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you
 have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an interesting thing
 to split them among the diferent connections.
 
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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread ceduardo
2010/5/15 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be

 Hi,

 Let's say that you have two internet connections at home, and
 consequently two devices which link your computer to the Internet. How
 can you manage, e.g. in Iceweasel/FF, to use one or the other? If you
 have multiple downloads all the time, it might be an interesting thing
 to split them among the diferent connections.

Hi have tow suggestions,
The first one.
trickle http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle it is bandwidth shaper.

The second one
bonding http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding
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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
ceduardo wrote:
 2010/5/15 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be
   
 Hi have tow suggestions,
 The first one.
 trickle http://monkey.org/~marius/pages/?page=trickle it is bandwidth shaper.

 The second one
 bonding 
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding
 whit this one you can plus the bandwidth.
   
`Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks.


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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 
  The second one
  bonding 
  http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding
  whit this one you can plus the bandwidth.

 `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks.

But will probably not work in you case, as it was meant to combine two 
(or more?) network ports from the same computer connected to the same 
switch.

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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Allums

On 5/14/2010 6:13 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello Mark Allums,

Am 2010-05-14 07:39:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

Flash may not be a priority, sense it performs two functions.  One,
it acts as the standard web video player.  Two, it tries to be a
standard web programming interface and SDK.

The former is becoming mooted by the advent of HTML5.  The latter is
boring, since there are 1000s of other ways to write programs that
run in web browsers, e.g., Javascript.  No one really wants Flash to
be the go-to standard for programming, even if it offers a few shiny
gewgaws. Don't you hate Flash-based sites?  I know I do.


...and I hate websites using a 200 kByte JavaScript,  sucking  500 MByte
of memory and  consuming  100%  CPU  resources  to  implement  the  same
functionality as the Adobe Flash-Pluging.

Yes, I know a bunch of Websites claiming there are  Flash-Free...  Using
JavaScript for this purpose is the same crap as using Flash.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
 Michelle Konzack




I am not so much pro Javascript as I am anti-Flash.  And I concede that 
there is room for improvement.


In fact, that is what I advocate:  Improving Javascript.

Also, note:  Do not confuse Javascript with Java.  Two entirely 
different animals.


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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote:
   
 The second one
 bonding 
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding
 whit this one you can plus the bandwidth.
   
   
 `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks.
 

 But will probably not work in you case, as it was meant to combine two 
 (or more?) network ports from the same computer connected to the same 
 switch.
   
The description says

==
The Linux bonding driver provides a method for aggregating
multiple network interfaces into a single logical
bonded http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Link_aggregation interface.
==

Strictly speaking, this is what I want. Now, your interpretation seems
to be based on the definition of a link aggregation, which I am not
really familiar with. Basically, I want to merge connections into one,
or at least divide and use them separately, in an easy way. This is not
a so-rare situation, is it? E.g. you might be wandering in some zone
where you can use the WiFi, but where it is sometimes unavailable, say
at specific regions. If you manage to use another connection, for
example the one that is given by your mobile phone/smartphone /via/
Bluetooth (which is then connected to the internet through other
protocols), it should be possible to switch between these two
connections, or to use them simultaneously, if, say, WiFi 's range is
too small or WiFi's bandwidth too small compared to the smartphone's
one. (Okay, this is not a really realistic example.)

You might also share an internet connection with your neighbour,
legally, and use it a lot when he does not need it. Then, if you already
use ethernet, you can use both connections. But how?

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Re: MD subsystem is not loaded

2010-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,


When I install a kernel I get MD subsystem is not loaded as a warning:

...


snip

See that is exactly the trouble with rolling ur own kernel. I never set 
RAID options. Which? Good question. So I made an educated guess 
(what?) and set:


h...@debian:/hda10/backup.files$ diff .config.2.6.33.4-nodebian 
.config.2.6.33.4-RAID-nodebian

3,4c3,4
 # Linux kernel version: 2.6.33.4-hvw
 # Thu May 13 13:24:07 2010
---
  # Linux kernel version: 2.6.33.4
  # Fri May 14 13:32:21 2010
920c920
 # CONFIG_RAID_ATTRS is not set
---
  CONFIG_RAID_ATTRS=m
1095c1095,1117
 # CONFIG_MD is not set
---
  CONFIG_MD=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=m
  CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
  CONFIG_MD_RAID0=m
  CONFIG_MD_RAID1=m
  CONFIG_MD_RAID10=m
  CONFIG_MD_RAID456=m
  CONFIG_MD_RAID6_PQ=m
  # CONFIG_ASYNC_RAID6_TEST is not set
  CONFIG_MD_MULTIPATH=m
  CONFIG_MD_FAULTY=m
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_DM=m
  # CONFIG_DM_DEBUG is not set
  CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=m
  CONFIG_DM_SNAPSHOT=m
  CONFIG_DM_MIRROR=m
  CONFIG_DM_LOG_USERSPACE=m
  CONFIG_DM_ZERO=m
  CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH=m
  CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_QL=m
  CONFIG_DM_MULTIPATH_ST=m
  CONFIG_DM_DELAY=m
  CONFIG_DM_UEVENT=y
2413a2436,2441
  CONFIG_XOR_BLOCKS=m
  CONFIG_ASYNC_CORE=m
  CONFIG_ASYNC_MEMCPY=m
  CONFIG_ASYNC_XOR=m
  CONFIG_ASYNC_PQ=m
  CONFIG_ASYNC_RAID6_RECOV=m
h...@debian:/hda10/backup.files$


We'll see if the MD subsystem gets loaded.
And why are there no google hits for this? Who knows.



After changing my kernel with the above, the MD subsystem loads 
because now I get:


Assembling MD arrays...done (no arrays found in config file or 
automatically).


So it depends on one or more of those kernel configs, at least in 2.6.33.4.

Trouble is that years ago when I started compiling my own kernel, I did 
not start a file with 3 columns: date - function - reason for adding, so 
now I have a kernel that keeps getting bigger and I don't know 
specifically why the entries are there, other than in general, like the 
ones above.


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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Anand Sivaram
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 20:09, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat,15.May.10, 16:32:05, Merciadri Luca wrote:
  
   The second one
   bonding
 http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding
   whit this one you can plus the bandwidth.
  
  `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks.

 But will probably not work in you case, as it was meant to combine two
 (or more?) network ports from the same computer connected to the same
 switch.

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Bonding will not work.  It is exclusing for mac layer of ethernet.
You could use ip route2 and there are multiple ways to get load balancing
of two internet connections.
Look at www.lartc.org for more details.


Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:32:05 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 `Bonding' seems to achieve what I wanted to do. Thanks.

Sure? I don't think so :-)

Bonding is for ethernet devices, nothing to do with using your 
router's bandwith. Ethernet bonding is like hard disk raid: it will 
prevent for a link going down and you can use it to increasing 
throughput but what you want to achieve is not done with that, as you 
will be still facing the problem on how/where to route packages.

Also, bonding requires at least 2 ethernet adapters. 

A very good bonding tutorial:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/bonding

But you may need something like this:

How To: Load Balancing  Failover With Dual/ Multi WAN / ADSL / Cable 
Connections on Linux
http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-load-balancing-failover-with-dual-multi-wan-adsl-cable-connections-on-linux/

And I advance you is not an easy task :-P

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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,15.May.10, 16:47:07, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 
  But will probably not work in you case, as it was meant to combine two 
  (or more?) network ports from the same computer connected to the same 
  switch.

 The description says
 
 ==
 The Linux bonding driver provides a method for aggregating
 multiple network interfaces into a single logical
 bonded http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Link_aggregation interface.
 ==
 
 Strictly speaking, this is what I want. Now, your interpretation seems
 to be based on the definition of a link aggregation, which I am not
 really familiar with. Basically, I want to merge connections into one,
 or at least divide and use them separately, in an easy way. This is not
 a so-rare situation, is it? E.g. you might be wandering in some zone
 where you can use the WiFi, but where it is sometimes unavailable, say
 at specific regions. If you manage to use another connection, for
 example the one that is given by your mobile phone/smartphone /via/
 Bluetooth (which is then connected to the internet through other
 protocols), it should be possible to switch between these two
 connections, or to use them simultaneously, if, say, WiFi 's range is
 too small or WiFi's bandwidth too small compared to the smartphone's
 one. (Okay, this is not a really realistic example.)
 
 You might also share an internet connection with your neighbour,
 legally, and use it a lot when he does not need it. Then, if you already
 use ethernet, you can use both connections. But how?

Bonding is not suitable for you because it works too low-level (it is 
layer 2), unless you have two links from the same provider, using some 
technology that can be bonded (like ADSL).

AFAIU what you need is BGP[1], but I can't give you any tips as this is 
way out of my league ;)

Probably a good start (whatever technology you end up using) is a 
GNU/Linux (preferably Debian) machine connected to both internet links 
and your internal network since consumer gateways don't even have more 
than one WAN port[2].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol
[2] some of them could be used for this with custom firmware, but this 
is off-topic

Regards,
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Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

2010-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,

Just one question,

Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso 
and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently 
still using lenny.



I do dist-upgrades from Sid, but I also have kept up a script that 
installs from scratch.


The reason for the latter is that I like to know what packages I asked 
to be installed and for what reason.


The vast majority of packages are dependencies and it is never clear why 
they were pulled in and by whom.


I now do a dist-upgrade and see:

858 upgraded, 289 newly installed, 15 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

Yet as I install from scratch I only ask for 220 packages in total.

Hugo


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Alan Ianson wrote:

On Fri May 14 2010 11:22:54 pm Ron Johnson wrote:

On 05/15/2010 01:14 AM, Alan Ianson wrote:

On Fri May 14 2010 09:48:47 pm RyanJB wrote:

Hi,

With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in
the cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say,
ubuntu or even sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome,
etc. Maybe using unstable or experimental repo? I'm sure there's many
ways to do this, but I just don't know.. I'm new to debian :(

If you want the latest I'd run either testing or unstable. I have both
stable and unstable installed. Most of the time I run unstable.

+1 Sid/Unstable


Yep, even though it's called unstable it's like a rock.. :)




Indeed, and that needs to be stressed. Unstable it may be called but I 
find it very stable, as long as you don't burn your bridges behind you.


Hugo


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Re: Updrading or reinstalling?

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Allums

On 5/14/2010 9:25 PM, ryanjonath...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it better to upgrade debian using dist-upgrade or just download the new iso 
and reinstalling it?? I'm waiting for the squeeze final release.. Currently 
still using lenny.


I used the testing installer recently, and was amazed at how terrible 
and buggy it was, so, if I had a working system, I would certainly 
upgrade in preference to using that dreadful installer.  However, I 
would rather upgrade piecemeal with safe-upgrade rather than use 
dist-upgrade.  Too dangerous and drastic.  Be sure you research some of 
the stumbling blocks, like the udev thing.  (Upgrade udev *before* you 
upgrade the kernel.)


MAA


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pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

(on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2.

Then when I do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I see:

The following packages have been kept back:
  grub

and

The following packages will be upgraded:
... grub-legacy ...

but when I do 'aptitude full-upgrade' I see:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
... grub-legacy{a} ...

and

The following NEW packages will be installed:
... grub-pc{a} ...

So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin?

Hugo


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Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,15.May.10, 10:32:36, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 (on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2.
 
[...]
 
 So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin?

Please post the output of 'apt-cache policy grub'.

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New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny

2010-05-15 Thread Chris Austin
Hi,

I have just bought a new 3-button mouse since 3-button emulation does not seem 
to work well in Lenny - I had a lot of trouble with unpredictable behaviour 
apparently due to contact bounce and getting unwanted context menus, some of 
whose entries were sometimes unintentionally activated, with bad effects - but 
unfortunately the new mouse is serial rather than PS/2.

I have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root in a terminal before starting 
kdm, but there was no mention of a mouse, only keyboard options were mentioned. 
 And the new mouse is completely non-functional after doing kdm.

I have also tried Xorg -configure, and the following message was given:

Xorg detected your mouse at device /dev/input/mice.  Please check your config 
if the mouse is still not operational, as by default Xorg tries to autodetect 
the protocol.  Your xorg.conf file is /root/xorg.conf.new.

The only mentions of the mouse in /root/xorg.conf.new are in the first section:

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

and in a later section:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

I ran X -config /root/xorg.conf.new to test the new xorg.conf, but the new 
mouse was still nonfunctional.  It was plugged into Serial port 1, and I also 
tried going into the BIOS and altering Onboard Serial Port A from 3f8h/COM1 to 
Auto, but this didn't help either.

Are serial mice supported in Lenny?

Best regards,
Chris Austin.


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Re: pinning + apt-get vs aptitude

2010-05-15 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-15 17:32 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 (on Sid) I pinned grub-legacy, to avoid going to grub2.

 Then when I do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' I see:

 The following packages have been kept back:
   grub

 and

 The following packages will be upgraded:
 ... grub-legacy ...

 but when I do 'aptitude full-upgrade' I see:

 The following packages will be REMOVED:
 ... grub-legacy{a} ...

You should run aptitude unmarkauto grub-legacy and remove the
transitional grub package.  Unfortunately the case where a transitional
package A pulls in another package B is not handled well by the package
managers, I always end up aptitude unmarkauto B; aptitude markauto A
to tell apt that I want to keep the new package and that it can remove
the transitional one as soon as nothing depends on it anymore.

 The following NEW packages will be installed:
 ... grub-pc{a} ...

 So why does aptitude pay no attention to my pin?

Because it decides that the grub-legacy package is unused and can be
removed despite the pin.  Whether this is the right thing is debatable;
I'm sure you find some bug reports about that if you dig into the long
list of aptitude bugs.

Sven


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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 15-05-10 14:43, Steve Fishpaste schreef:
 On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered:
 Hello Steve Fishpaste,

 Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
 There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know. 8) Got to be
 careful being so inclusive. There are many uses for PDFs other than
 for archival purposes. Printers for example take PDFs and often need to 
 'edit'
 them. That's where the original idea to have a PDF editor originated.

 For WHAT reason a printer need to EDIT a PDF?
 
 To edit it of course! That's why many printers have prepress departments.
 PDFs were originally used in the publishing world exclusively
I think there confusion between printers (the machines) and the people
that operate printers. The machines do not need pdf-editing
capabilities, the people operating the printers for you might.

Sjoerd




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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Jay Zach

On 05/15/2010 12:48 AM, RyanJB wrote:

Hi,

With the latest apps keep pouring in, is there any way to keep debian in the 
cutting edge? I mean, how to keep debian as updated as, say, ubuntu or even 
sidux?? You know, latest iceweasel, openoffice, gnome, etc. Maybe using unstable or 
experimental repo? I'm sure there's many ways to do this, but I just don't know.. I'm new 
to debian :(

Thanks a lot,
RJB


   
Run sidux.  It is Debian unstable with some people doing some extra work 
to keep it a bit more stable for you.  Use the smxi script which helps 
keep things stable also (and simplifies installation of some software to 
boot).  I love sidux on the desktop (and vanilla Debian on my servers).


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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:17:36AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 +1 Sid/Unstable
 
 Yep, even though it's called unstable it's like a rock.. :)
 
 Indeed, and that needs to be stressed. Unstable it may be called
 but I find it very stable, as long as you don't burn your bridges
 behind you.

Yes but please note we are almost in a soft-freeze situation now where
no major distruptive uploads are done by DD.  It was not like this just
after lebby release if you had some hardware impacted by xorg package
transition.  (Being cautious is a good idea.)

Osamu


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Re: Flash is open?

2010-05-15 Thread Mark Allums

On 5/15/2010 11:16 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Op 15-05-10 14:43, Steve Fishpaste schreef:

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 01:08:43AM +0200, Michelle Konzack uttered:

Hello Steve Fishpaste,

Am 2010-05-14 18:48:21, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:

There are some printers that use GNU/FLOSS to you know. 8) Got to be
careful being so inclusive. There are many uses for PDFs other than
for archival purposes. Printers for example take PDFs and often need to 'edit'
them. That's where the original idea to have a PDF editor originated.


For WHAT reason a printer need to EDIT a PDF?


To edit it of course! That's why many printers have prepress departments.
PDFs were originally used in the publishing world exclusively

I think there confusion between printers (the machines) and the people
that operate printers. The machines do not need pdf-editing
capabilities, the people operating the printers for you might.

Sjoerd




Yes, printers are jobbers who take a document and reproduce it. 
Printers are people.  They operate printing presses.  This newfangled 
term printer, referring to a machine, is a recent innovation.


MAA



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Re: How to keep debian current??

2010-05-15 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sat,15.May.10, 00:33:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Yes, start with a testing netinst
www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and install the base and then
add the sid repos and do an aptitude full-upgrade to the base, after
that you can start to build your testing/unstable system the way you
want it.



Or use the business-card image with boot option 'priority=medium' and 
install unstable directly ;)


Regards,
Andrei



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LVM spanning multiple encrypted drives

2010-05-15 Thread B. Alexander
I use LUKS drive encryption on several machines on my network. The problem I
have is that every time I attempt to set up LVM which spans multiple drives,
it decrypts the first one, then panics because it can't see the rest of the
PVs, because they are still encrypted. For instance, the my backup machine
has a 250GB and 500GB partition. If I could combine the two drives in one
LVM, I would have nearly 700GB available for backups. Unfortunately, I have
to put the second drive on a separate volume group, which limits me to
500gb.

The fix is probably simple, but I haven't found the right combination of
secret sauce to get all drives decrypted before the system issues vgchange
-a y, which results in a panic or other Bad Things.

Does anyone know the right way to get the drives decrypted first?

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Re: How to manage multiple Internet connections?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sat,15.May.10, 16:47:07, Merciadri Luca wrote:
   

 Bonding is not suitable for you because it works too low-level (it is 
 layer 2), unless you have two links from the same provider, using some 
 technology that can be bonded (like ADSL).

 AFAIU what you need is BGP[1], but I can't give you any tips as this is 
 way out of my league ;)

 Probably a good start (whatever technology you end up using) is a 
 GNU/Linux (preferably Debian) machine connected to both internet links 
 and your internal network since consumer gateways don't even have more 
 than one WAN port[2].

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol
 [2] some of them could be used for this with custom firmware, but this 
 is off-topic

 Regards,
 Andrei
 P.S. There is no need to CC me as I am subscribed to the list ;)
   
Thanks for both messages. I'll study this.

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