Re: debugging package breakage

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/08/11 01:48, Tom Roche wrote:
> 
> summary: my questions are about
> 
> + using Debian packaging and its tools (notably apt-*, aptitude)
> + fixing problems with same
> 
> *not*
> 
> - fixing broken functionality
> - LMDE
> - LMDE repositories
> 
> If there is a better place to ask end-user-level questions about Debian
> packaging and its tools (vs dev- or builder-level), please point me to
> it.

As has been pointed out before - you are asking questions about Mint.
Not Debian:-
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.2.2

Regardless of the claims made by Mint developers - Mint is not Debian:-
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.2

Though Mint developers claim Mint is "100% compatible with Debian
Testing and Stable" - Debian isn't 100% compatible with Testing AND Stable".

> Meanwhile, I'm interested in ways to make `aptitude` see as unbroken
> packages that appear (notably, to `apt-get`) to be in fact unbroken. One
> such way is proposed below (purging and re-installing `aptitude`), but
> it appears problematic (more below).

Despite being unable to do a task, you insist you know what the problem
is and how to fix it.

But then you mix stable and testing without pinning


> Scott Ferguson Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:28:44 +1000
>>> I understand that you're trying to illustrate *what* you think is not
>>> working (ie. shown by Aptitude as broken but *what* is it that *is
>>> not* working?
> 
> *Aptitude* appears (to me--ICBW) to be not working properly, based on
> the following 5 facts:




I asked for the output of apt-get -sf install and apt-get -s install rsync.


> 
> TIA, Tom Roche 
> 
> 

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Re: SSH server

[Bob Proulx]

Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> Bob Proulx writes:
> > 2. Ensure that sshd is listening on port 22.
>
> > $ netstat -na | grep '0.0.0.0:22'
> > tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*LISTEN
>
>   As IPv6 is slowly conquering the world, I'd be checking for
>   :::22 just as well, e. g.:

Good point.  I have yet to convert over to the IPv6 world.  But in
this case IPv4 was/is sufficient to verify that it was installed and
running.  Or rather in this case that it wasn't installed and wasn't
running.

>   Also, neither . nor : are the characters that an ordinary shell
>   would treat as special, so single quotes aren't necessary.

Sorry for not reducing to minimum form.  I started out looking for
":22 " and so needed the quotes.  I have many ports that started with
22XYZ and so needed to avoid the substring match.  But then evolved it
into 0.0.0.0:22 which didn't need the space and so went with it and
didn't think to remove the quotes.

>   OTOH, grep(1) will treat . as any character, not period, thus -F
>   should be used.  Consider, e. g.:
>
> $ printf %s\\n 0.0.0.0:22 1020:030:22 | grep '0.0.0.0:22'
> 0.0.0.0:22
> 1020:030:22
> $ printf %s\\n 0.0.0.0:22 1020:030:22 | grep -F 0.0.0.0:22
> 0.0.0.0:22
> $

That is of course correct.  But since the result is to the human eye I
expect that a real person will be able to interpret what they see.  I
didn't happen to have any other matches when testing that on my real
system and so didn't bother with it.  I often use grep when more
correctly I should be using sed.

>  > 3. Ensure that you can connect to the sshd port from the local host.
>  > Do this on the local host.
>
>  > $ telnet localhost 22
>  > ...
>  > Escape character is '^]'.
>  > SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7
>  > ^]<-- Use Control-] to escape
>  > telnet> quit  <-- Then type quit to exit
>
>   The Telnet protocol isn't the same as “no protocol.”  In
>   particular, IIRC, Telnet treats a \xff code as special.

Right.  But telnet is installed on a default system and so doesn't
need any more explanation.  It is "Good Enough(TM)".  We are not
needing to interact with sshd more than simply getting a banner.  It
doesn't matter that telnet is has in-band control and other issues.  I
didn't want to make things more complicated than necessary.  I
contemplated talking about 'connect' here but then decided against it.

If I were going to talk about using a different command such as
'connect' or goodness forbid 'nc' then I would be obligated to explain
how to install that command first.  And for relatively small gain.  It
wasn't worth it.  But since you brought it up now I feel obligated.
The 'connect' program is the superior choice in my opinion.

>   For network diagnostics, netcat (as of either netcat6,
>   netcat-openbsd, or netcat-traditional package) is generally
>   better.

I realize that 'nc' is the grand old dog of the network connection
utilities.  But just the same it is really a terrible program.  It by
design ignores errors, or is it EOF, I can't remember.  And so when
trying to use it for things such as ssh ProxyCommand connections it
tends to leave orphan 'nc' processes hanging around because they don't
close themselves down properly when the network drops out.  Some years
ago I chased down the root cause that 'nc' processes were being left
around but can't remember it now.  But when I found out it was an
intentional design decision I became less of a fan of it.

For general network connectivity connections the best program IMNHO is
the 'connect' program.  It detects errors and EOF properly and
therefore never leaves orphan 'connect' processes hanging around when
used as an ssh proxy command.  Check it out.

  # apt-get install connect-proxy

  http://bent.latency.net/bent/git/goto-san-connect-1.85/src/connect.html

>   And it can be interrupted by a plain ^C (C-c), BTW.

The connect program is similar.  The connect program is 8-bit clean
and handles errors better.  Try it, you will like it. :-)

Bob


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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Heddle Weaver]

On 21 August 2011 21:20, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:07:50 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote:
>
> > On 21 August 2011 19:51, Camaleón  wrote:
>
> >> (ppp are a different method to get a connection over Internet, nowadays
> >> mostly used for dial-up modems or USB DSL modems but I'm afraid that's
> >> not your case...)
> >>
> >>
> > Will check out /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-providers. Sounds like I might have
> > screwed something up in there.
>
> But do you really need it? I mean, does your ISP require you to use a PPP
> connection with your router? I also use a DSL connection and don't need
> PPP for nothing.
>

No I don't.
I need pppd of course, but not ppp.

>
> Can you point me to somewhere on the Internet where I can see what are
> your ISP connection settings?
>

I'll bring them into town and post them on the next trip, probably
tomorrow.

>
> >> It is still not clear what steps did you follow to get your XP laptop
> >> connected to the router :-?
> >>
> >>
> > Just the ethernet cable, that's all. The pop-up for the quick connect
> > just appeared on the screen. I didn't have to go looking for anything.
> > Different laptop, mainboard.
>
> Okay, that's what I thought. Then the same has to apply for your linux
> box. Can you check if DHCP is enable on the windows laptop?
>

It's not mine. so I've given it back, but to establish a connection
immediately, it must have been as I would have needed an IP address to
connect.

>
> >> > [  252.853480] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Failed to load firmware
> >> > "tigon/tg3_tso5.bin"
> >>
> >> (...)
> >>
> >> The network card requires a firmware, you should download from non-free
> >> repos. Additional information here:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
> >>
> >>
> > Further along in the sequence, eth0 and the firmware seem to connect up,
> > so I don't think there's a problem there.
>
> Anyway, you should install it.
>

O.K.
I'll do that with aptitude when I get a connection.

>
> > O.K., thanks. So good to have constructive mentalities to talk to. Maybe
> > I'll be able to help you one day.
> > As you were saying, with eth0 and a cable, there's nothing much that can
> > go wrong, so with the disconnects, it looks like the problem is before
> > that. Regards,
>
> In fact, the same you did in your windows box you have to do in your
> linux box. If DHCP is enabled on windows, enable it on linux. If no
> dialer was used in windows, do not use a dialer in linux, and so on...
>

Well, I'm actually getting an IP address on the Linux laptop, so DHCP must
be active.
I'll post that when I get back in also, although I'm sure I've done it
already somewhere.
I recall my IP, the peer's IP, DNS primary and secondary, amongst other
things, but I'll get proof positive.
Regards and thanks,

Weaver.
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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Heddle Weaver]

On 21 August 2011 21:03, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

> On 08/21/2011 07:53 AM, Heddle Weaver wrote:
> > We have already done this and access is not available by way of telnet
> > or wget. But, you would know this, having read the thread.
>
> This thread is far too long and confused, so this might have been asked
> already: give us the output of /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n
>

Will post these next trip into town.
I had a link last night but haven't been able to get it back yet.
Regards,

Weaver.

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Fwd: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Heddle Weaver]

I'll be glad when I can get away from web mail and post directly to the list
instead of sending them direct by mistake.

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From: Heddle Weaver 
Date: 22 August 2011 10:09
Subject: Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N
To: Andrew McGlashan 




On 21 August 2011 21:02, Andrew McGlashan <
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>

Hello,

>
> I've read the thread completely.  It seems clear to me that you have had
> networking issues where you've had an IP and then not had an IP.  If you
> have a fully working TCP/IP V4 stack, then I'm sure you'll see success.
>

Well, yes, but a lot of what I'm reading from plog is along the lines of:
'modem not detected' or 'serial port closed'. This tells me that at least
part of the problem is local. Probably a short circuit in the legend between
the keyboard and the chair.

>
> Have you tried a live cd?
>

Tried to download an ISO (Vector Linux), but can't hold a connection long
enough.

>
> Pressing the reset button on the Billion modems, usually resets to factory
> default, it doesn't always work -- but for sure it does work most of the
> time.
>

Yes, usually holding it depressed for ten seconds works.

>
> You've also shown evidence of PPP in your setup, unless you wish to use
> bridge mode, you shouldn't have anything in relation to ppp in your Linux
> setup.
>

This is something I'm just getting onto. I didn't think a lot on it
initially because I have no intention of rigging up dial-up. I don't have a
modem for that and I don't even know what the number is at present. I have
to look in /var/~run to see what's being said.

Most of the data is pasted to mousepad and saved to a flash drive, then
posted on a windows machine about a mile from where I live, so it's a long
process.
Thanks.
Regards,

Weaver.

>
>
> btw glad you enjoyed the laugh ;-)


Hope you enjoyed yours ;-)
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Terrorism, the new religion.

How to let Alsa actually mix the PC speaker beep with other sounds?

[Claudius Hubig]

Hello,

I recently switched to playing music directly on my notebook instead
of another computer somewhere else. This notebook runs Debian Testing
with Xfce 4.8 and a self-compiled kernel 3.0.

I can set the volume level of the system beep (which occurs, for
example, if you open a terminal and press backspace) using alsamixer,
as I have a control called ‘Beep’ there.

If I set a volume level unequal zero and unmute that control, it will
play a high-pitched, acceptable sound every time I press backspace.
Disabling the control will play a lower-frequency, louder sound.

I like both sounds and don’t mind which of them plays. However, I
_do_ mind having no beep at all.

My problem: Whenever any of the two sounds play, any other sound
output is temporarily paused. I know that Alsa can do mixing quite
well, as I can play multiple sound files at the same times (using
mplayer, vlc, aplayer etc.) – but somehow it doesn’t want to mix that
beep into the other sounds it outputs.

Any ideas what I could do to improve this situation?

Best regards & thank you very much for taking the time to read this,

Claudius
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Re: Xfce4 not enabling a desktop icon - Debian stable

[AG]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:01:03 +0100, AG wrote:


On Debian stable, the WM Xfce4 is not enabling an icon of an inserted
disk - CD/ DVD - to be drawn to the desktop. If it is an audio CD, then
the desired app will launch (ditto with a video DVD), but I can still
find no way to browse the actual disk contents, not even via /media/*.

Nothing under "/media"... hum, well, and where's your CD/DVD then? :-)


By this I mean that I cannot reach it via /media/ ... there are icons 
shown in the /media directory but I think they are symlinks. The disk is 
definitely being mounted because the associated applications are triggered.

Insert a CD or DVD, run "mount" and put here the output. Dmesg could be
another option.


I have followed the directions given at
http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/ … media.html
  and
have all the relevant options selected, but still nada.

I raised this question on the Xfce forum and the response was: "Xfce
uses an abstraction layer to be able to deal with most of those
technologies but if it does not work you have to fix the underlying
stuff (fix HAL/polkit permissions, install I don't know what service,
etc)."

He's quite right. Distributions tend to customize these packages (gnome/
kde/xfce...) to fit their requirements or likings.


This is over my head, so basically - is this a Debian issue, Xfce4 issue

Let's say it is just "a issue" :-)


and in any event ... does someone have a suggestion on how to fix it,
because the official documentation available doesn't lend itself to
resolving this issue.

No idea about Xfce. In GNOME there is an option (via gconf-editor) to set
if media volumes icons have to be visible on the desktop or not ("/apps/
nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible") but in XFCE I dunno :-?

And this was the point: I had followed all of the instructions given in 
the docs, but didn't obtain the intended result. GNOME works as 
expected, so has somehow figured out the interface issues, but Xfce4 ... 
apparently, not, at least not on this machine.


AG



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Re: Xfce4 not enabling a desktop icon - Debian stable

[AG]

On Sun 21 Aug 2011 at 15:01:03 +0100, AG wrote:


On Debian stable, the WM Xfce4 is not enabling an icon of an inserted
disk - CD/ DVD - to be drawn to the desktop. If it is an audio CD, then
the desired app will launch (ditto with a video DVD), but I can still
find no way to browse the actual disk contents, not even via /media/*.

The Settings menu. Desktop/icons/Default icons. Is 'Removable Devices'
there? And is it ticked?



Hi Brian

Yes ... and yes.

AG


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Re: debugging package breakage

[Lisi]

On Sunday 21 August 2011 19:38:34 Tom Roche wrote:
> ... but so what? it's `cat` ...

yes - but why open root up when you don't need it??


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Re: debugging package breakage

[Tom Roche]

Tom Roche Sunday 21 August 2011 16:48:07
> me@it:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> > deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
> > deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

Lisi Reisz Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:16:13 +0100
> Why did you use sudo?

velocity(fingers) > velocity(brain)

> It is not necessary for this command

... but so what? it's `cat` ...


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Re: debugging package breakage

[Lisi]

On Sunday 21 August 2011 16:48:07 Tom Roche wrote:
> me@it:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> > deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
> > deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
> > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

Why did you use sudo?  It is not necessary for this command, and it is 
generally considered better to act as root only when strictly necessary - as 
it would be, e.g., to edit your sources list.

Lisi


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Swift Linux 0.1.2 is now available!

[Jason Hsu]

Swift Linux 0.1.2 (based on antiX Linux M11) is now available at 
http://www.swiftlinux.org.  There are two plain vanilla editions (Diet Swift 
Linux and Regular Swift Linux) and three special editions (Taylor Swift Linux, 
Minnesota Swift Linux, and Chicago Swift Linux).

Swift Linux is lightweight, user-friendly, and fully compatible with the large 
Debian software repository.  No other distro can compete with Swift Linux on 
all three of these criteria.  If you wish that Puppy Linux had a large software 
repository, or if you wish that Linux Mint could be as lightweight as Puppy 
Linux, then this is the distro for you.

Swift Linux gives that old computer a new lease on life!  Windows XP support 
ends on April 8, 2014. Instead of spending hundreds of dollars on a new 
computer or slowing down your old computer with a costly and bloated "upgrade", 
make the REAL UPGRADE to Swift Linux. 

P.S.  Swift Linux NEEDS more developers!  The version control system is GitHub 
(https://github.com/swiftlinux), and the bug/goal tracker is Launchpad.net 
(https://launchpad.net/swiftlinux).  I have refactored the source code so that 
each major function has its own repository (instead of cramming everything into 
one repository).  I have implemented Python scripts for transforming Diet Swift 
Linux into Regular Swift Linux and the special editions.  There are even Python 
scripts that automatically generate scripts for building Regular Swift Linux 
and the special editions.

-- 
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Re: Xfce4 not enabling a desktop icon - Debian stable

[Brian]

On Sun 21 Aug 2011 at 15:01:03 +0100, AG wrote:

> On Debian stable, the WM Xfce4 is not enabling an icon of an inserted  
> disk - CD/ DVD - to be drawn to the desktop. If it is an audio CD, then  
> the desired app will launch (ditto with a video DVD), but I can still  
> find no way to browse the actual disk contents, not even via /media/*.

The Settings menu. Desktop/icons/Default icons. Is 'Removable Devices'
there? And is it ticked?


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Re: debugging package breakage

[Tom Roche]

summary: my questions are about

+ using Debian packaging and its tools (notably apt-*, aptitude)
+ fixing problems with same

*not*

- fixing broken functionality
- LMDE
- LMDE repositories

If there is a better place to ask end-user-level questions about Debian
packaging and its tools (vs dev- or builder-level), please point me to
it. Meanwhile, I'm interested in ways to make `aptitude` see as unbroken
packages that appear (notably, to `apt-get`) to be in fact unbroken. One
such way is proposed below (purging and re-installing `aptitude`), but
it appears problematic (more below).

details:

First, thanks to Darac Marjal for his detailed explanation of how to use
the ncurses-based `aptitude` TUI to fix the following:

original post @
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/08/msg01104.html
Tom Roche Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:20:43 -0400
> me@it:~$ aptitude search ?broken
> > iB  acl - Access control list utilities
> > iB  coreutils   - GNU core utilities
> > iB  cups- Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
> > iB  libacl1-dev - Access control list static libraries and headers
> > iB  libarchive1 - Single library to read/write tar, cpio, pax, zip, 
> > iso9660, etc.
> > iB  libgnomevfs2-0  - GNOME Virtual File System (runtime libraries)
> > iB  libisofs6   - library to create ISO9660 images
> > iB  ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE
> > iB  rsync   - fast remote file copy program (like rcp)
> > iB  samba   - SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix

However, given the 5 facts below, ISTM the problem is with `aptitude`,
not the packages.

Scott Ferguson Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:28:44 +1000
>> I understand that you're trying to illustrate what you think is not
>> working (ie. shown by Aptitude as broken but what is it that *is
>> not* working?

*Aptitude* appears (to me--ICBW) to be not working properly, based on
the following 5 facts:

F1 My LMDE box is not broken functionally (aside from last.fm audio,
   which I'm assuming is unrelated to the above): only some packages
   are, and only in aptitude (more on that below). Specifically, none of
   the functionality that I would expect to be broken from the above
   appears to be broken. Not that I've done exhaustive testing, but
   certainly all the coreutils that I've used appear to work.

F2 I appreciate that, at some fundamental level, LMDE != Debian. However,

Marc Shapiro Thu, 18 Aug 2011 23:00:40 -0700
> Linux Mint Debian Edition is based directly on Testing, with a rolling
> release. [LMDE is *not* the same as Mint's] regular version which is
> based on Ubuntu with discrete releases. So LMDE does not use Ubuntu's
> 'instant potato mix', but it does mash its own. They *claim* to be
> 100% compatible with Debian and NOT compatible with Ubuntu.

   See also

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1527

   (but note that LMDE 64-bit, which I'm using, has arrived since then).
   In order of increasing Debianosity, Ubuntu < LMDE < Debian.

F3 LMDE has its own repositories.

> where is your /etc/apt/sources.list is pointing to?

me@it:~$ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import
> deb http://debian.linuxmint.com/latest testing main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free

> If it is pointing to Debian repositories LMDE may not be as 100%
> compatible as they say.

   That's entirely possible, and if my package-breakage problem appears
   to be due to problems with one or more of these repositories I will
   certainly raise that issue with the LMDE folks. However, at this
   point, the problem appears to be limited to my `aptitude`:

*  There is no functional correlate to the aptitude package breakage
   (see fact 1).

*  The packages appear OK in `apt-get` (see next fact).

F4 My `apt-get` shows no breakage, but my `aptitude` does:

me@it:~$ sudo apt-get check | wc -l
> 3
me@it:~$ sudo apt-get check
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
me@it:~$ aptitude search ?broken
> iB  acl - Access control list utilities
> iB  coreutils   - GNU core utilities
> iB  cups- Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
> iB  libacl1-dev - Access control list static libraries and headers
> iB  libarchive1 - Single library to read/write tar, cpio, pax, zip, 
> iso9660, etc.
> iB  libgnomevfs2-0  - GNOME Virtual File System (runtime libraries)
> iB  libisofs6   - library to create ISO9660 images
> iB  ntfs-3g - read-write NTFS driver for FUSE
> iB  rsync   - fast remote file copy program (like rcp)
> iB  samba   - SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix

F5 While setting up this box, I first used `apt-get` then `aptitude`.
   FWIW I've been doing this since I started using Ubuntu (few years/
   releases), based on my reading of

[SUSPENDED]: squeeze freeze while copying from camera mem card (via USB)

[Itay]

Due to a failure in reproducing the problem I suspend the discussion 
in this thread.

Hopefully I should not return to it later... ;-)

Itay


On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Itay wrote:


Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:28:59 +0300 (IDT)
From: Itay 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: squeeze freeze while copying from camera mem card (via USB)


After upgrading to squeeze from lenny I cannot copy photos from the 8GB 
memory card.  Worse: the computer freezes, I lose the mouse and the keyboard 
(attached via USB) and have to make hard-shutdown.
I can mount the file-system, but very quickly it will appear as if it was 
never mounted: cd, ls, etc., will not work.


So far using same camera and connection with another card didn't produce that 
effect.


Using both cards, same camera and connection, on another machine + lenny 
doesn't produce this effect either.


Below is the relevant part of /var/log/messages showing the detection of the 
camera with a 4GB card, followed by the detection of the tricksey 8GB card. 
The last line belongs to the boot sequence that I was forced to do.


Please help me to resolve this issue.
Thanks,
Itay


[264415.556019] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 
3

[264415.689635] usb 2-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04b0, idProduct=0419
[264415.689638] usb 2-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[264415.689641] usb 2-4: Product: NIKON DSC D300
[264415.689643] usb 2-4: Manufacturer: NIKON
[264415.689644] usb 2-4: SerialNumber: 03103000
[264415.689747] usb 2-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[264415.689995] scsi9 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[264420.690039] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access NIKOND300  1.00 PQ: 0 
ANSI: 2

[264420.690605] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0
[264420.691392] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] 8027712 512-byte logical blocks: (4.11 
GB/3.82 GiB)

[264420.691763] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[264420.693641]  sdc: sdc1
[264420.696766] sd 9:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[264870.768022] usb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 3
[264871.016021] usb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 3

[264975.886655] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
[265094.536019] usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 
4

[265094.669478] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=04b0, idProduct=0419
[265094.669481] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[265094.669483] usb 1-4: Product: NIKON DSC D300
[265094.669485] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: NIKON
[265094.669487] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 03103000
[265094.669590] usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[265094.669872] scsi10 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[265099.669888] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access NIKOND300 1.00 PQ: 0 
ANSI: 2

[265099.670463] sd 10:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0
[265099.671363] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] 16007040 512-byte logical blocks: (8.19 
GB/7.63 GiB)

[265099.671730] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[265099.673741]  sdc: sdc1
[265099.678379] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
imklog 4.6.4, log source = /proc/kmsg started.





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Re: squeeze freeze while copying from camera mem card (via USB)

[Itay]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Camaleón wrote:


Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:59:10 + (UTC)
From: Camaleón 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: squeeze freeze while copying from camera mem card (via USB)
Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 15:59:47 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:55:45 +0300, Itay wrote:

(...)


+ I couldn't find out anything suspicious in /var/log/syslog.
   (But honestly I don't know what to look for: what is kernel
soft-lock?)


here there is a good explanation on what soft/hard locks here (scroll
down to "A Classification of Kernel Bugs"):

http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Bugreport_kernel


Indeed: the condition I had seemed closest to kernel soft lockup.


Sorry, I did not find a similar doc for Debian explainig the different
types for the most common kernel bugs :-P


I thank you for the responsiveness and directions you have provided.

Although in the past the problem appeared quite consistently, in the 
last few days I failed to reproduce the problem.  So I can't test your 
suggestions.  (In a sense these are good news ;-)


Therefore I will suspend the discussion in this thread.
I will send a separate message in this regard.

Thanks,
Itay



Greetings,

Re: Xfce4 not enabling a desktop icon - Debian stable

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:01:03 +0100, AG wrote:

> On Debian stable, the WM Xfce4 is not enabling an icon of an inserted
> disk - CD/ DVD - to be drawn to the desktop. If it is an audio CD, then
> the desired app will launch (ditto with a video DVD), but I can still
> find no way to browse the actual disk contents, not even via /media/*.

Nothing under "/media"... hum, well, and where's your CD/DVD then? :-)

Insert a CD or DVD, run "mount" and put here the output. Dmesg could be 
another option.

> I have followed the directions given at
> http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/ … media.html
>  and
> have all the relevant options selected, but still nada.
> 
> I raised this question on the Xfce forum and the response was: "Xfce
> uses an abstraction layer to be able to deal with most of those
> technologies but if it does not work you have to fix the underlying
> stuff (fix HAL/polkit permissions, install I don't know what service,
> etc)."

He's quite right. Distributions tend to customize these packages (gnome/
kde/xfce...) to fit their requirements or likings.
 
> This is over my head, so basically - is this a Debian issue, Xfce4 issue

Let's say it is just "a issue" :-)

> and in any event ... does someone have a suggestion on how to fix it,
> because the official documentation available doesn't lend itself to
> resolving this issue.

No idea about Xfce. In GNOME there is an option (via gconf-editor) to set 
if media volumes icons have to be visible on the desktop or not ("/apps/
nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible") but in XFCE I dunno :-?

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Xfce4 not enabling a desktop icon - Debian stable

[AG]

Hey list

On Debian stable, the WM Xfce4 is not enabling an icon of an inserted 
disk - CD/ DVD - to be drawn to the desktop. If it is an audio CD, then 
the desired app will launch (ditto with a video DVD), but I can still 
find no way to browse the actual disk contents, not even via /media/*.


I have followed the directions given at 
http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/ … media.html 
 and 
have all the relevant options selected, but still nada.


I raised this question on the Xfce forum and the response was:
"Xfce uses an abstraction layer to be able to deal with most of those 
technologies but if it does not work you have to fix the underlying 
stuff (fix HAL/polkit permissions, install I don't know what service, etc)."


This is over my head, so basically - is this a Debian issue, Xfce4 issue 
and in any event ... does someone have a suggestion on how to fix it, 
because the official documentation available doesn't lend itself to 
resolving this issue.


Cheers

AG


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Re: How do I partition a 250 gb drive for a dual boot setup?

[Joao Ferreira Gmail]

On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 01:54 -1200, sdc wrote:
> Unfortunately I have to use Windows 7 as well so I need to setup a
> dual boot.

Alternativelly to dual-boot you might want to consider running windows
as a virtual machine, using, for example, VirtualBox (there are others).

It will work just fine. After some time you end up forgetting that the
windows computer is actually a virtual machine... because is as real as
any other computer.

The process would be very simple:

1) Install Debian (use automatic partitioning and take the "everything
in same partition option")
2) Install Virtual box
3) install windows as a VM under virtual box.

I've been using this setup for about 5 years (3 years with VMware and 2
years with VirtualBox).

cheers
Joao


>  This dual boot setup will run on a laptop with a 250 GB HDD and a
> Broadcom BCM4312(I tried installing debian 6 some while ago but had no
> network driver. I imagine that I need to download it using another
> computer then installing it on the laptop. From where can I get it?)
> 
> 
> My biggest concern is the fact that I don't know how many partitions
> to make for Debian and how large. I was thinking about making a
> windows partition of 100gb and the rest go to Debian. Please, if it's
> possible provide me with a partition scheme (that much for root, that
> much for swap, etc) and instructions of how to set the dualboot laptop
> up and running.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you and if you need other details please tell me.
> 
> 
> 
> PS:I apologize if the content of the mail has already been discussed.
> I don't know how to search on a mail list. Also, I do know there is
> GOOOGLE but as a beginner I thought it was more advised to come here
> and ask questions that can help me solve this specific issue.
> 
> 
> 



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Re: pdfedit

[Javier Barroso]

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Rick Pasotto  wrote:
> I guess I'm too stupid to figure it out.
>
> I have a pdf document that I would like to add two lines of text to
> (different positions, different fonts). Under the 'Page' menu I see an
> icon for adding text but it is greyed out. I don't see that icon
> anywhere else on the screen.
>
> The so-called 'Help' is useless.
>
> Could someone please help me get started?

If you have good luck, libreoffice (with libreoffice-pdfimport
package) could help you to edit your pdf. I say good luck, because I
think the pdf support is primitive in libreoffice

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Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Please provide squeeze backports for alsa

[Ben Armstrong]

On 21/08/11 08:11 AM, Touko Korpela wrote:
> Alsa libs are needed for userspace programs that depend from them.
> They also provide mixer support.
> Just upgrading kernel isn't enough.

You would have a stronger case for your request if you would provide
some evidence, preferably an upstream changelog or commit log backing up
your claim that a backport is needed. It seems unlikely to me the alsa
libs have anything to do with it.

Ben


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Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Please provide squeeze backports for alsa

[Touko Korpela]

(I forgot to cc mail lists)

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 12:04:43PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * Touko Korpela [110821 12:40 +0300]:
> 
> > Bug log for Alsa looks quite long so maybe some extra maintainers are
> > needed?
> > Anyway, I would like to request backporting Alsa for squeeze, hoping that it
> > would make sound work better for my laptop (Asus EeePC 1215b). I
> > already use kernel from unstable.
> 
> So you are running the latest drivers with sid kernel. What else do
> you want? Anyway upgrading to sid would be a challange ;-)

Alsa libs are needed for userspace programs that depend from them.
They also provide mixer support.
Just upgrading kernel isn't enough.


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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Lisi]

On Sunday 21 August 2011 12:20:04 Camaleón wrote:
> > Will check out /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-providers. Sounds like I might have
> > screwed something up in there.

Surely the whole point is that it shouldn't be there at all, not that 
you "might have screwed up in there"?  At least, I think that that is what 
Camaleón is saying.  I have certainly never heard of using ppp to connect by 
Ethernet to a router.

Lisi


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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:07:50 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote:

> On 21 August 2011 19:51, Camaleón  wrote:

>> (ppp are a different method to get a connection over Internet, nowadays
>> mostly used for dial-up modems or USB DSL modems but I'm afraid that's
>> not your case...)
>>
>>
> Will check out /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-providers. Sounds like I might have
> screwed something up in there.

But do you really need it? I mean, does your ISP require you to use a PPP 
connection with your router? I also use a DSL connection and don't need 
PPP for nothing.

Can you point me to somewhere on the Internet where I can see what are 
your ISP connection settings?

>> It is still not clear what steps did you follow to get your XP laptop
>> connected to the router :-?
>>
>>
> Just the ethernet cable, that's all. The pop-up for the quick connect
> just appeared on the screen. I didn't have to go looking for anything.
> Different laptop, mainboard.

Okay, that's what I thought. Then the same has to apply for your linux 
box. Can you check if DHCP is enable on the windows laptop?

>> > [  252.853480] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Failed to load firmware
>> > "tigon/tg3_tso5.bin"
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> The network card requires a firmware, you should download from non-free
>> repos. Additional information here:
>>
>> http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
>>
>>
> Further along in the sequence, eth0 and the firmware seem to connect up,
> so I don't think there's a problem there.

Anyway, you should install it.

> O.K., thanks. So good to have constructive mentalities to talk to. Maybe
> I'll be able to help you one day.
> As you were saying, with eth0 and a cable, there's nothing much that can
> go wrong, so with the disconnects, it looks like the problem is before
> that. Regards,

In fact, the same you did in your windows box you have to do in your 
linux box. If DHCP is enabled on windows, enable it on linux. If no 
dialer was used in windows, do not use a dialer in linux, and so on...

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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On 08/21/2011 07:53 AM, Heddle Weaver wrote:
> We have already done this and access is not available by way of telnet
> or wget. But, you would know this, having read the thread.

This thread is far too long and confused, so this might have been asked
already: give us the output of /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n

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Re: All GNUstep-based graphical apps fault with SIGSEGV

[Vecu BOSSEUR]

Hello the List,

Here, I am answering to myself to add a bit of a comment, and to say
I'm eager to get your point of view.

Does anyone feel interested in GNUstep?

If not, we could remove it completely from Debian, couldn't we?

Please tell me if you are affected by the same trouble, or if you
think this bug is local to my system.

Due to the fact I run almost pure "testing" Debian, and I keep it
up-to-date, think it over, please.

Of course, I could file a random bug report, but I would prefer to
grasp some ideas and suggestions before.

Please, read the body of my initial post below, to better understand
why I ask you to help me take the right action.

In hope my request will not fall into deaf ears.

Sincerely,
Valentin QUEQUET

2011/8/19 Vecu BOSSEUR :
> Hello, the List.
>
> I run Debian Wheezy (testing) on amd64 and with a few packages from
> Sid (unstable), i.e. the kernel.
>
> All GNUstep-based graphical apps fault with SIGSEGV ; if I try lets
> say AClock, I get:
>
> [ WITH libpixman-1-0 0.22.2-1 ]
>
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$ AClock
> Segmentation fault
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$
>
> And dmesg says:
>
> AClock[28182]: segfault at 8 ip 7f06f8208c5e sp 7fff532feeb0
> error 4 in libpixman-1.so.0.22.2[7f06f81d6000+6f000]
>
> [/ WITH libpixman-1-0 0.22.2-1 ]
>
>
> [ WITH libpixman-1-0 0.23.2-1 ]
>
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$ AClock
> Segmentation fault
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$
>
> AClock[29355]: segfault at 8 ip 7f40357dfac3 sp 7fffb565e840
> error 4 in libpixman-1.so.0.23.2[7f40357ab000+73000]
>
> [/ WITH libpixman-1-0 0.23.2-1 ]
>
> But this bug happens with all GNUstep-based graphical apps. I've not
> been able to install GNUstep from experimental.
>
> I hesitate to file a bug report on Debian BTS because one can suspect
> the bug be in "gnustep-back0.18-cairo", "libcairo2", or
> "libpixman-1-0" for example.
>
> I've made traces of AClock (aclock.app package) using 'strace' and
> 'strace' tools, and I've made both partial and full core dumps.
>
> Here follows the listing of my core files I can upload somewhere upon request.
>
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$ ls -l core_AClock\=aclock.app_*
> -r 1 testr testr   8708096 18 août  17:04
> core_AClock=aclock.app_DEFAULT_libpixman_0.22.2-1
> -r--r--r-- 1 testr testr   1309463 18 août  17:12
> core_AClock=aclock.app_DEFAULT_libpixman_0.22.2-1.tar.bz2
> -r 1 testr testr   8744960 18 août  17:07
> core_AClock=aclock.app_DEFAULT_libpixman_0.23.2-1
> -r--r--r-- 1 testr testr   1297619 18 août  17:12
> core_AClock=aclock.app_DEFAULT_libpixman_0.23.2-1.tar.bz2
> -r 1 testr testr 141176832 18 août  17:01
> core_AClock=aclock.app_FULL_libpixman_0.22.2-1
> -r--r--r-- 1 testr testr  10614028 18 août  17:12
> core_AClock=aclock.app_FULL_libpixman_0.22.2-1.tar.bz2
> -r 1 testr testr 141225984 18 août  16:56
> core_AClock=aclock.app_FULL_libpixman_0.23.2-1
> -r--r--r-- 1 testr testr  10582652 18 août  17:12
> core_AClock=aclock.app_FULL_libpixman_0.23.2-1.tar.bz2
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$
>
> Are you affected too by tis bug ?
>
> Please, tell me what I can do to help sort this problem out.
>
> You can find the "ltrace" trace in appendix.
>
> I can't join the "strace" trace nor publish it on paste.debian.org
> because of its size.
>
> I you want the "strace" trace or any of the 4 aforementioned core
> dumps, please ask me them directly at :
> vecu.boss...@gmail.com
>
> Sincerely,
> Valentin QUEQUET
>
> APPENDIX:
>
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$ cat AClock.ltrace.txt
> __libc_start_main(0x401320, 1, 0x7fffeacd43e8, 0x407340, 0x407330
> 
> __objc_exec_class(0x60e3c0, 0x7fffeacd43e8, 0x7fffeacd43f8, 0,
> 0x7fc5a3cf6320) = 0
> __objc_exec_class(0x60bbc0, 0, 0x1182060, 0, 0x1229890) = 0
> __objc_exec_class(0x609640, 0, 0x1182060, 0, 0x121de70) = 0
> objc_get_class(0x407424, 0x7fffeacd43e8, 0x7fffeacd43f8, 0, 116) =
> 0x7fc5a4b9cea0
> objc_msg_lookup(0x7fc5a4b9cea0, 0x6095e0, 0x407434, 0x407424, 108) =
> 0x7fc5a4760910
> objc_get_class(0x407436, 272, 0, 0x7fc5a45c82a0, 0x7fc5a3cf6fc8) =
> 0x7fc5a52b0860
> objc_msg_lookup(0x7fc5a52b0860, 0x6095f0, 0x407442, 0x407436, 110) =
> 0x7fc5a4e45b10
> objc_msg_lookup(0x12def70, 0x609600, 0, 0x170001, 1) = 0x7fc5a4e460e0
> --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
> +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
> testr@valentin-laptop:~$
>


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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Heddle Weaver]

On 21 August 2011 19:51, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:11:19 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote:
>
> > On 20 August 2011 05:56, Camaleón  wrote:
> >
> >> Wait... what are those "pppx" connections? Where are they coming from?
> >> Are you using another device to get connected on Internet?
> >>
> >>
> > The only other device I've used is the borrowed XP laptop I used to set
> > up the modem in the first place. That was a wireless connection, even
> > though I plugged the cable in. I was just so glad to get a connection, I
> > let it go. Perhaps it's a hangover from that?
>
> You said you used another laptop with XP to test the connection with the
> router but that does not explain what are pppd connections doing in your
> linux box :-)
>
> (ppp are a different method to get a connection over Internet, nowadays
> mostly used for dial-up modems or USB DSL modems but I'm afraid that's
> not your case...)
>

Will check out /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-providers. Sounds like I might have
screwed something up in there.

>
> >> Can you explain how did you connect your windows computer to Internet?
> >> What steps did you follow? Maybe this way we can understand what is
> >> going on...
> >>
> >>
> > That's all there was.
> > Just the one machine, with a wireless config to set up the WAN, but with
> > the ethernet cable plugged in.
> > Possibly, with windows typical interference, it's configured the modem
> > with his account details and I'm getting free access? The pressure
> > builds. I've got to sort this out!
>
> It is still not clear what steps did you follow to get your XP laptop
> connected to the router :-?
>

Just the ethernet cable, that's all. The pop-up for the quick connect just
appeared on the screen. I didn't have to go looking for anything. Different
laptop, mainboard.

>
> > I took a look at dmesg to see what that could tell me about what was
> > going on.
> > First in the sequence I got this:
> >
> > [2.129507] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95705A50) rev
> > 3003] (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) MAC address 00:15:60:c2:63:46
> > [2.142802] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5705
> > (10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet) (WireSpeed[0])
>
> That's the normal log for a network card.
>
> > Which seems to suggest that the non-free Tygon firmware is involved. I
> > thought that was just for hard drives. Further down in the sequence I
> > get this:
> >
> > [  252.853480] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Failed to load firmware
> > "tigon/tg3_tso5.bin"
>
> (...)
>
> The network card requires a firmware, you should download from non-free
> repos. Additional information here:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
>

Further along in the sequence, eth0 and the firmware seem to connect up, so
I don't think there's a problem there.

>
> > And at last we arrive at this - and if it applies, I would have no idea.
> > I just wish they'd write this stuff in English.
>
> (...)
>
> That looks like the firewall log, nothing wrong nor nothing you should
> worry about :-)
>

O.K., thanks. So good to have constructive mentalities to talk to. Maybe
I'll be able to help you one day.
As you were saying, with eth0 and a cable, there's nothing much that can go
wrong, so with the disconnects, it looks like the problem is before that.
Regards,

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and by the rulers as useful.

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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

I've read the thread completely.  It seems clear to me that you have had 
networking issues where you've had an IP and then not had an IP.  If you 
have a fully working TCP/IP V4 stack, then I'm sure you'll see success.


Have you tried a live cd?

Pressing the reset button on the Billion modems, usually resets to 
factory default, it doesn't always work -- but for sure it does work 
most of the time.


You've also shown evidence of PPP in your setup, unless you wish to use 
bridge mode, you shouldn't have anything in relation to ppp in your 
Linux setup.


Thank you.

btw glad you enjoyed the laugh ;-)

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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Heddle Weaver]

On 21 August 2011 13:28, Andrew McGlashan <
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Heddle Weaver wrote:
>
>> So it looks more and more like hardware.
>> Regards,
>>
>
> I don't agree.
>
> The 7800N is one of Billion's best modems, it may be faulty, but I don't
> think so reading through all this horrible thread.


As I have already said, if you had actually read the thread.


>  The thread and your experience completely mis-represents Billion's product
> as it seems you are clueless on how to use it properly and as designed


No, I have not represented Billion's product, I have actually endorsed it.


> -- ala, as others have said, it should not require anything special and
> almost ANY reasonable browser will work fine for configuration with standard
> browser settings on Linux or Windows or any other operating system that
> understands and works properly with standard TCP networks.
>

But, it doesn't. Access to the modem interface has not been achieved through
the use of four separate browsers. But, you would know this, having read the
thread.

>
> What I find happens with many Mac users is that they try to setup PPP login
> on their computer, when the modem is meant to be doing the job for their
> network.  This kind of problem is not something that is normally seen with
> Linux users as they tend to have more of a clue than a Mac user and usually
> more of a clue than most Windows users.
>

This is somewhat extraneous as there is no Mac or network, other than a
laptop and the modem.

>
>
> I suggest the following:
>
> First off, connect the modem directly to the setup machine via the Ethernet
> cable using a LAN port, do not connect to any other devices, ie no switches
> or other network -- just the modem with the computer.
>

This has already been done. It is fully recorded in the thread.

>
> Oh, connect the phone line of the DSL connection too, make sure it isn't
> filtered coming in to the modem.
>

Yes, so far a standard set-up. And what I've had from the beginning of this
situation.

>
>  -  Fully reset the 7800N to factory defaults, any way you can, even using
> the Windows machine.
>

This is accomplished by way of using the 'reset' button. A facility on most
modems.

>
>  -  Use a LIVE CD and eliminate your Linux installation from the equation.
>  The Live CD needs to work, it needs to have drivers for your network card
> -- if it works fine, then proceed using the setup, otherwise continue with
> the Windows machine.
>

There's nothing wrong with the O.S., which has also been recently
established. When I was referring to a hardware problem, I was referring to
the motherboard of an ageing laptop.

>
>  -  Check that you have an IP address in the range of the modem's standard
> LAN (probably 192.168.1.254 or 192.168.2.254), netmask is 255.255.255.0.
>
>  -  You should be able to telnet to the modem with username admin and
> password admin -- logout with "user logout" on the command line interface,
> don't do anything else here, you seem to be out of your depth in this area.
>  This will prove connectivity with the modem on it's network and that
> everything should be fine.
>

We have already done this and access is not available by way of telnet or
wget. But, you would know this, having read the thread.

>
>
> Take a breath.
>
> If all the above works fine, then you should use the web config of the
> modem.
>

Take a breath. This is not achievable under the current circumstances,
because we cannot access the modem interface. You seem to be under the
impression that this is the first modem I have configured. It isn't.

>
>  -  Login to the web config using http://192.168.1.254 -- the username and
> password will both be "admin".  Once logged in.
>
> -   Run the quick start wizard.  Change only two things, the ISP username
> and the ISP password.  [You may want to scan connection types first, or
> not).  ISPs may give you DNS servers and other setting, but you normally
> only want to change two things, the PPP username login and the PPP password.
>
>  -  Once you have gone through setting up the ISP login (which the modem
> takes care of), then do a "save configuration" to flash, click on the save
> link, then click on the apply button -- wait for it to say it has been done
> successfully.
>
> You should now have a modem that offers default wireless (fix that ASAP),
> it should give out IP settings via DHCP (it's own built-in server) and it
> will be connected to the Internet via the ISP login that you entered.
>
> Any machine needing access to the Internet through this modem will simply
> plug in to the built-in LAN switch or use wireless.  The device will get IP
> settings via DHCP.  You do not need to do any kind of PPP login on anything
> other than the modem itself.
>
> Further configuration is for someone whom understands the above things
> properly first, for starters.


All of this is understood, you see. But first we need to access the modem
interface, yes/no?

Re: [Pkg-alsa-devel] Please provide squeeze backports for alsa

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* Touko Korpela [110821 12:40 +0300]:

> Bug log for Alsa looks quite long so maybe some extra maintainers are
> needed?
> Anyway, I would like to request backporting Alsa for squeeze, hoping that it
> would make sound work better for my laptop (Asus EeePC 1215b). I
> already use kernel from unstable.

So you are running the latest drivers with sid kernel. What else do
you want? Anyway upgrading to sid would be a challange ;-)

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Please provide squeeze backports for alsa

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Bug log for Alsa looks quite long so maybe some extra maintainers are
needed?
Anyway, I would like to request backporting Alsa for squeeze, hoping that it
would make sound work better for my laptop (Asus EeePC 1215b). I
already use kernel from unstable.


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Re: OT questions about noscript and notscript

[Scott Ferguson]

On 21/08/11 19:10, consul tores wrote:
> 2011/8/19 Scott Ferguson :
>> On 20/08/11 03:50, consul tores wrote:
>>> 2011/8/18 Scott Ferguson :
 On 19/08/11 04:01, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I'm curious about the differences between noscript and notscript.
>>
>> 
>>

>>>
>>> Some people think that both, could be a security risk, because they
>>> run under java, Is not it?
>>>
>>>
>> Wow! You don't half like to load and sophist-i-cate a question do you? :-D
> 
> I do not understand what you say, but it could be assumed as a joke,


It was/is difficult to understand what you were asking, and you made it
conditional on both programs running "under" Java.

> by convenience.

Thank you.

> 
>> Noscript does not run "under" Java.
> 
> Well, If you say that, I can not confirm it,

NoScript is in the Debian repository. You can also just disable, remove,
or uninstall Java.
I don't know about the similarly named, not-similar, NotScript - I
"suspect" it doesn't run "under" Java either, but I'm not about to
install either of them in order to check ;-p

> but read this:
> http://adblockplus.org/blog/attention-noscript-users

See:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NoScript#Criticism
for a slightly more balanced take.

> http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/01/236248/NoScript-Adds-Subscriptions-To-Adblock-Plus

ditto, note that 2 years have passed an no other scandals have emerged -
and more people are paying attention now.

> http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=126

This last one just lost me...
> 
> I am not a programer, then i trust Debian developers and maintainers,
> but it reading information some things seem real.


I saw nothing in the provided links about java.
The third link is to the blog of the noscript developer.

Any program has security risks - it's a broad term. For general desktop
and business purposes I "believe" noscript poses (far) less risks than
it negates.
A good analogy would be looking before crossing the road - the eyes can
play tricks but
The first two links just illustrate the reasons why Open Source is a
good development model - problems where quickly spotted and corrected.
> 
> 


Cheers


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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 12:51:10 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote:

> On 20 August 2011 05:50, Camaleón  wrote:
> 
>> >> Hum... are you sure your router is still at "192.168.1.254"?
>>
>>
> I ran some status checks and get multiple results, without any other
> configuration:
> 
> Aug 21 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: peer from calling number
> 00:03:A0:11:DC:78 authorized
> Aug 21 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: not replacing existing default route
> through ppp1
> Aug 21 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: local  IP address 110.174.203.247
> Aug 21 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: remote IP address 10.20.21.36 Aug 21
> 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: primary   DNS address 203.12.160.35 Aug 21
> 10:15:08 Bandit pppd[32274]: secondary DNS address 203.12.160.36

(...)

Wait, wait... I will ask this again >:-)

Why are you using a PPP connection? 

Ethernet routers do not usually need to setup such kind of connections, 
you only need to configure your ethernet card (or your DSL device, the 
LAN part) accordingly and that's all. No PPP nor dialers on the client 
side, nothing.

I suggest you to call your ISP and ask for a technician to setup your 
device. If they refuse to configure it under linux, call a friend with  
experience in linux and DSL routers and give him a beer once it 
finishes :-)

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Re: Fwd: Billion 7800N

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:11:19 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote:

> On 20 August 2011 05:56, Camaleón  wrote:
> 
>> Wait... what are those "pppx" connections? Where are they coming from?
>> Are you using another device to get connected on Internet?
>>
>>
> The only other device I've used is the borrowed XP laptop I used to set
> up the modem in the first place. That was a wireless connection, even
> though I plugged the cable in. I was just so glad to get a connection, I
> let it go. Perhaps it's a hangover from that?

You said you used another laptop with XP to test the connection with the 
router but that does not explain what are pppd connections doing in your 
linux box :-)

(ppp are a different method to get a connection over Internet, nowadays 
mostly used for dial-up modems or USB DSL modems but I'm afraid that's 
not your case...)

>> Can you explain how did you connect your windows computer to Internet?
>> What steps did you follow? Maybe this way we can understand what is
>> going on...
>>
>>
> That's all there was.
> Just the one machine, with a wireless config to set up the WAN, but with
> the ethernet cable plugged in.
> Possibly, with windows typical interference, it's configured the modem
> with his account details and I'm getting free access? The pressure
> builds. I've got to sort this out!

It is still not clear what steps did you follow to get your XP laptop 
connected to the router :-?

> I took a look at dmesg to see what that could tell me about what was
> going on.
> First in the sequence I got this:
> 
> [2.129507] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95705A50) rev
> 3003] (PCI:33MHz:32-bit) MAC address 00:15:60:c2:63:46 
> [2.142802] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: attached PHY is 5705
> (10/100/1000Base-T Ethernet) (WireSpeed[0])

That's the normal log for a network card.
 
> Which seems to suggest that the non-free Tygon firmware is involved. I
> thought that was just for hard drives. Further down in the sequence I
> get this:
> 
> [  252.853480] tg3 :02:0e.0: eth0: Failed to load firmware
> "tigon/tg3_tso5.bin"

(...)

The network card requires a firmware, you should download from non-free 
repos. Additional information here:

http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware

> And at last we arrive at this - and if it applies, I would have no idea.
> I just wish they'd write this stuff in English.

(...)

That looks like the firewall log, nothing wrong nor nothing you should 
worry about :-)

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Re: aptitude streaming loads of errors, help please

[Erwan David]

On 21/08/11 10:50, dave selby wrote:
> I seem to have a problem, noticed that aptitude flashed up an error
> after adding a package, so dropped to aptitude and got a ton of error
> messages every time I try to add / demove any package
> 
> Reading package lists...
> Building dependency tree...
> Reading state information...
> Reading extended state information...
> Initializing package states...
> Reading task descriptions...
> The following partially installed packages will be configured:
>   pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11
> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
> Writing extended state information...
> Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.21-3+squeeze1) ...
> insserv: warning: script 'K07smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
> insserv: warning: script 'smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
> insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and mountnfs if started
> insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 8
> insserv:  loop involving service nfs-common at depth 7
> insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and checkroot if started
> insserv:  loop involving service checkroot at depth 5
> insserv:  loop involving service hostname at depth 4
> insserv:  loop involving service alsa-utils at depth 12
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
> facility `$all' which can not be true!
> insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc

Re: OT questions about noscript and notscript

[consul tores]

2011/8/19 Scott Ferguson :
> On 20/08/11 03:50, consul tores wrote:
>> 2011/8/18 Scott Ferguson :
>>> On 19/08/11 04:01, Paul E Condon wrote:
 I'm curious about the differences between noscript and notscript.
>
> 
>
>>>
>>
>> Some people think that both, could be a security risk, because they
>> run under java, Is not it?
>>
>>
> Wow! You don't half like to load and sophist-i-cate a question do you? :-D

I do not understand what you say, but it could be assumed as a joke,
by convenience.

> Noscript does not run "under" Java.

Well, If you say that, I can not confirm it, but read this:
http://adblockplus.org/blog/attention-noscript-users
http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/01/236248/NoScript-Adds-Subscriptions-To-Adblock-Plus
http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=126

I am not a programer, then i trust Debian developers and maintainers,
but it reading information some things seem real.


> People *can* be a security risk, but not necessarily because they run
> under java.
>
> I would not trust people who ran under flash.
>
> Cheers


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aptitude streaming loads of errors, help please

[dave selby]

I seem to have a problem, noticed that aptitude flashed up an error
after adding a package, so dropped to aptitude and got a ton of error
messages every time I try to add / demove any package

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Reading extended state information...
Initializing package states...
Reading task descriptions...
The following partially installed packages will be configured:
  pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Writing extended state information...
Setting up pulseaudio (0.9.21-3+squeeze1) ...
insserv: warning: script 'K07smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
insserv: warning: script 'smfpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and mountnfs if started
insserv:  loop involving service mountnfs at depth 8
insserv:  loop involving service nfs-common at depth 7
insserv: There is a loop between service rc.local and checkroot if started
insserv:  loop involving service checkroot at depth 5
insserv:  loop involving service hostname at depth 4
insserv:  loop involving service alsa-utils at depth 12
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.local and therefore on system
facility `$all' which can not be true!
insserv: Starting smfpd depends on rc.loca