unable to add map
Bonjour; J'ai un probleme avec la configuration du dns dynamique avec dhcp, il y'a une erreur qui persiste : unable to add map time out. quelqu'un a t'il deja eu ce probleme ? Merci d'avance. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333872587.2556.1.camel@homer-laptop
Mise à jour
Bonjour, j'ai eu une icone dans la barre de tache me proposant des MAJ, j'ouvre, 870 propositions, je les accepte, donc étape de téléchargement puis execution et cela mouline, mouline.. j'ai fait quitter ensuite apt-get update et apt-get upgrade une erreur car d'habitude cela marché bien: Préconfiguration des paquets... dpkg : erreur : erreur de configuration : /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1 : option « foreign-architecture » inconnue E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) root@alpha30:~# à priori erreur code 2 c'est fichier non trouvé?!§§ pouvez-vous me sortir de cette anomalie merci d'avance JB1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333896081.13707.61.ca...@alpha30.bohain.org
Re: Mise à jour
Peux-tu fournir les fichiers suivants? - /etc/apt/sources.list - /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg - /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:41 PM, JB jacques.briq...@orange.fr wrote: Bonjour, j'ai eu une icone dans la barre de tache me proposant des MAJ, j'ouvre, 870 propositions, je les accepte, donc étape de téléchargement puis execution et cela mouline, mouline.. j'ai fait quitter ensuite apt-get update et apt-get upgrade une erreur car d'habitude cela marché bien: Préconfiguration des paquets... dpkg : erreur : erreur de configuration : /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1 : option « foreign-architecture » inconnue E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) root@alpha30:~# à priori erreur code 2 c'est fichier non trouvé?!§§ pouvez-vous me sortir de cette anomalie merci d'avance JB1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333896081.13707.61.ca...@alpha30.bohain.org -- Yann PENIGUEL
Re: Mise à jour
Le dimanche 08 avril 2012 à 17:42 +0200, Yann PENIGUEL a écrit : Peux-tu fournir les fichiers suivants? - /etc/apt/sources.list - /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg - /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 4:41 PM, JB jacques.briq...@orange.fr wrote: Bonjour, j'ai eu une icone dans la barre de tache me proposant des MAJ, j'ouvre, 870 propositions, je les accepte, donc étape de téléchargement puis execution et cela mouline, mouline.. j'ai fait quitter ensuite apt-get update et apt-get upgrade une erreur car d'habitude cela marché bien: Préconfiguration des paquets... dpkg : erreur : erreur de configuration : /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1 : option « foreign-architecture » inconnue E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) root@alpha30:~# à priori erreur code 2 c'est fichier non trouvé?! §§ pouvez-vous me sortir de cette anomalie merci d'avance JB1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333896081.13707.61.ca...@alpha30.bohain.org pour sources.list: root@alpha30:/etc/apt# pg sources.list ## /etc/apt/sources.list ## debian security repository deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free ## debian principal repository deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free (EOF): pour dpkg.cfg: root@alpha30:/etc/apt# cd ../dpg -su: cd: ../dpg: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type root@alpha30:/etc/apt# cd ../dpkg root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg# ls dpkg.cfg dpkg.cfg.d origins shlibs.default shlibs.override root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg# pg dpkg.cfg # dpkg configuration file # # This file can contain default options for dpkg. All command-line # options are allowed. Values can be specified by putting them after # the option, separated by whitespace and/or an `=' sign. # # Do not enable debsig-verify by default; since the distribution is not using # embedded signatures, debsig-verify would reject all packages. no-debsig # Log status changes and actions to a file. log /var/log/dpkg.log (EOF): pour le dernier: log /var/log/dpkg.log root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg# ls dpkg.cfg dpkg.cfg.d origins shlibs.default shlibs.override root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg# cd dp*d root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d# ls multiarch root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d# pg multiarch foreign-architecture i386 root@alpha30:/etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d# mon architecture est 64 bits Intel, pour Wheezy c'est la 2° fois que je vois i386 merci de consacrer un peu de temps A+ JB1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333901274.13707.68.ca...@alpha30.bohain.org
Re: Mise à jour
Le dimanche 08 avril 2012 à 17:42 +0200, Yann PENIGUEL a écrit : une remarque, le fichier /var/log/dpkg.log est vide A+ JB1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333901602.13707.70.ca...@alpha30.bohain.org
Re : Mise à jour
Le 08/04/2012 18:07:54, JB a écrit : mon architecture est 64 bits Intel, pour Wheezy c'est la 2° fois que je vois i386 merci de consacrer un peu de temps Mon petit doigt me dit que c’est packagekit qui bosse. nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial -- RÉALISME M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ? P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333905074.18360...@new-host-2.home
Re: Mise à jour
Essaie: # apt-get install dpkg qui mettra a jour uniquement dpkg. Si ça ne passe pas: # mv /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch.old et retente le apt-get upgrade puis restaure le fichier multiarch après coup. On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 6:13 PM, JB jacques.briq...@orange.fr wrote: Le dimanche 08 avril 2012 à 17:42 +0200, Yann PENIGUEL a écrit : une remarque, le fichier /var/log/dpkg.log est vide A+ JB1 -- Yann PENIGUEL
Re: [OT] Unas risas para el April fools' day
El 07/04/2012 19:22, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:19:35 +0200, Javier Barroso escribió: (te perdono el top-posting y el html porque me he reído una jartá leyendo los comentarios :-P) Sorry again ... Estos del android ... Es un latazo buscar / copiar enlace y pegar ... Y estar al tanto del dichoso html y el top posting ... (excusas malas) Lo mejor es desengancharse del móvil .. Yo me reí con el itp dedupdedup [1] y la respuesta (otro itp [2]) No sé si es q mi nivel de debianita está llegando a límites insospechados! :) Saludos! [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg5.html [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00026.html Je, je... los campos de control del segundo ITP molan: (...) Version : π (...) * URL or Web page : gopher://err.no/aekeech6 Original q es el tío :) Pd: perdonad si este va también con html ... El móvil no me deja leer la página de google donde dice si es posible o no desactivarlo, yo no encuentro la opción y en algún foro dicen q no es posible ...
Re: Problema compilando driver rtl8187L en Debian Squeeze desde NetInstall
Buenas, El sáb, 07-04-2012 a las 19:34 -0430, frederit mogollon escribió: Buenas noches. Un saludo. Soy nuvo en ésta lista. Explico mi problema: Tengo un portátil Síragon Canaima NB3050, con procesador Intel Celeron M430 1,7 GHz, 512 MB de RAM, un HD de 120 GB, tarjeta gráfica VIA CN700/P4M800, tarjeta ethernet VIA VT6102 y tarjeta Wi-Fi AW-GU700 con chipset Realtek RTL8187L. Previa revisión bibliográfica extensa, hice una instalación mínima de Debian Squeeze con NetInstall desde una unidad USB usando conexión LAN. Instalé lo necesario para tener un sistema Debian funcional, con kernel 2.6.32-5-686, con entorno Gnome mínimo y la aplicación wicd como gestor de redes. Todo bien, excepto que al intentar compilar e instalar el driver rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release.tar.gz (previamente descargado desde el sitio web oficial de Realtek), me lanza un error y no puedo proseguir. Aclaro que mi usuario es fdmogollon, entro desde una terminal de root y el archivo comprimido del driver lo tengo en la carpeta Descargas. A continuación coloco lo que me arroja la terminal durante el proceso: [..] Entonces, ordeno make y obtengo ésto: root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187# make make -C /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae/build M=/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187 CC=gcc modules make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto. make: *** [modules] Error 2 root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187# Aquí pensé que era necesario el kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae, y lo instalé desde los repositorios squeeze-backports, entonces lo intento de nuevo y obtengo lo mismo: Que paquetes has instalado para instalar el kernel 3.2? No controlo mucho este tipo de cosas pero creo que faltan las fuentes o las cabeceras. Prueba instalando también linux-sources-3.2... y linux-headers-3.2... -- Francesc Guitart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1333881702.3047.8.camel@negret
Re: [OT] Firefox 11 con caché de datos en disco duro
El Sat, 07 Apr 2012 23:04:50 +0100, Rodolfo Vargas escribió: (tu webmail ha destrozado las citas...) Que pena que lo hayan sacado (firefox 11) por default, era una muy buena técnica para lograr capturar algunos archivos, videos y otras cosas por ese medio... Aún se puede hacer, ojo, pero tienes que desactivar la opción de eliminar el contenido del caché al cerrar el navegador, y por ahí no paso porque te quedas con toda la basura que van dejando los sitios web en tu disco duro y tienes que acordarte de eliminar esos datos manualmente. Pues para videos en formato flv u otro pues creo que los complementos de firefox es una buena alternativa :), hace mucho que hacía las descargas con los temporales del querido internet explorer y el firefox, pero luego de concer los complemnetos ya no tengo necesidad de la cache :), bueno amiga Camaleon, paciencia y mejor usa complemento por ahora hasta que lo vuelvan a poner como antes, saludos. Sí, los complementos que permiten descargar vídeos y elementos multimedia están bien pero es una pena perder opciones de configuración en Firefox de una forma tan gratuita, tan a la ligera... en fin, al final he abierto un bug en Mozilla, aunque seguramente lo dejen como está por lo menos ahí queda registrada la queja: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743337 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls416$f2u$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Problema compilando driver rtl8187L en Debian Squeeze desde NetInstall
El Sat, 07 Apr 2012 19:34:34 -0430, frederit mogollon escribió: Buenas noches. Un saludo. Soy nuvo en ésta lista. Hola :-) Explico mi problema: Tengo un portátil Síragon Canaima NB3050, con procesador Intel Celeron M430 1,7 GHz, 512 MB de RAM, un HD de 120 GB, tarjeta gráfica VIA CN700/P4M800, tarjeta ethernet VIA VT6102 y tarjeta Wi-Fi AW-GU700 con chipset Realtek RTL8187L. Previa revisión bibliográfica extensa, hice una instalación mínima de Debian Squeeze con NetInstall desde una unidad USB usando conexión LAN. Instalé lo necesario para tener un sistema Debian funcional, con kernel 2.6.32-5-686, con entorno Gnome mínimo y la aplicación wicd como gestor de redes. Todo bien, excepto que al intentar compilar e instalar el driver rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release.tar.gz (previamente descargado desde el sitio web oficial de Realtek), me lanza un error y no puedo proseguir. Antes de nada... ¿por qué has compilado el driver? ¿has comprobado si el kernel que incluye squeeze tiene soporte para tu adaptador wifi? Según la página de la wiki de Debian debería está soportado por el módulo rtl8187: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#supported-rtl8187 Aclaro que mi usuario es fdmogollon, entro desde una terminal de root y el archivo comprimido del driver lo tengo en la carpeta Descargas. A continuación coloco lo que me arroja la terminal durante el proceso: root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon# cd Descargasroot@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas# tar -zxvf rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release.tar.gz rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ (...) root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release# ./configure bash: ./configure: No existe el fichero o el directorio Y tiene razón, no existe ese archivo en la ruta dada. Hasta aquí veo que no encuentra el archivo, y pensé que era porque el código fuente del driver está dentro de la subcarpeta rtl8187, así que voy hasta ese directorio y lo intento de nuevo y obtengo lo siguiente: root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187# ./configure bash: ./configure: No existe el fichero o el directorio Y sigue teniendo razón, no hay ningún archivo .configure. ¿Has leído el archivo readme para ver cómo se compila y qué requisitos te pide? Por si me estoy saltando algo, reviso el contenido de un archivo ReadMe que se encuentra dentro de la carpeta descomprimida rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release y que dice: (...) Eso es :-) Bueno, te indica que lo puedes compilar de dos formas, pero básicamente tienes que ejecutar make, make install, reiniciar el equipo y configurar la red (si lo que quieres es compilarlo). Haciendo lo que entiendo del texto, ordeno Makefile ya dentro de la subcarpeta rtl8187 y obtengo ésto: ¿De dónde sacas el Makefile? :-??? root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187# Makefile bash: Makefile: no se encontró la orden Cierto porque ese comando no existe. Entonces, ordeno make y obtengo ésto: Por fin :-) root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187# make make -C /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae/build M=/home/fdmogollon/Descargas/rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187 CC=gcc modules make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto. make: *** [modules] Error 2 Un momento... ese kernel no es que lleva squeeze sino que es de los backports. Menudo jaleo tienes. Aquí pensé que era necesario el kernel 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae, y lo instalé desde los repositorios squeeze-backports, entonces lo intento de nuevo y obtengo lo mismo: (...) No, no... eso no es así, no te está diciendo eso. Además, no instales un kernel tan a la ligera a no ser que lo necesites por algo concreto. En fin, te recomiendo que dejes la compilación a un lado y que pruebes a configurar tu adaptador con el módulo que incluye el kernel, salvo que tengas algún problema concreto y no te funcione, en cuyo caso la compilación sería la siguiente alternativa. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls5hv$f2u$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Problema compilando driver rtl8187L en Debian Squeeze desde NetInstall
El 07/04/12 19:34, frederit mogollon escribió: Buenas noches. Un saludo. Soy nuvo en ésta lista. Explico mi problema: Tengo un portátil Síragon Canaima NB3050, con procesador Intel Celeron M430 1,7 GHz, 512 MB de RAM, un HD de 120 GB, tarjeta gráfica VIA CN700/P4M800, tarjeta ethernet VIA VT6102 y tarjeta Wi-Fi AW-GU700 con chipset Realtek RTL8187L. Previa revisión bibliográfica extensa, hice una instalación mínima de Debian Squeeze con NetInstall desde una unidad USB usando conexión LAN. Instalé lo necesario para tener un sistema Debian funcional, con kernel 2.6.32-5-686, con entorno Gnome mínimo y la aplicación wicd como gestor de redes. Todo bien, excepto que al intentar compilar e instalar el driver rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release.tar.gz (previamente descargado desde el sitio web oficial de Realtek), me lanza un error y no puedo proseguir. Aclaro que mi usuario es fdmogollon, entro desde una terminal de root y el archivo comprimido del driver lo tengo en la carpeta Descargas. A continuación coloco lo que me arroja la terminal durante el proceso: root@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon# cd Descargasroot@lapfmogollo:/home/fdmogollon/Descargas# tar -zxvf rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release.tar.gz rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/scatterwalk.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/rtl_crypto.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/cipher.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/compress.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_wx.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/kmap_types.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/Makefile rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/digest.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt_tkip.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt_wep.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_softmac.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/scatterwalk.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/license rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_module.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/tags rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/readme rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_softmac_wx.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/api.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_crypt_ccmp.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/michael_mic.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/internal.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/proc.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/aes.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/arc4.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_tx.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/ieee80211_rx.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ieee80211/autoload.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/Makefile rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/wlan0down rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/RadioPower.sh rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/ReadMe rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/wlan0up rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/ rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/changes rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_dm.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8187.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_wx.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/install rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_pm.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/Makefile rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_dm.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/license rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_hw.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8187_core.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8187_led.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_93cx6.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/readme rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_rtl8225.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_wx.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/copying rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_rtl8225z2.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/authors rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8187_led.c rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_pm.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_93cx6.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/rtl8187/r8180_rtl8225.h rtl8187L_linux_26.1040.0820.2010.release/release_note
Re: [OT] Firefox 11 con caché de datos en disco duro
De: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Enviado: Domingo 8 de abril de 2012 8:32 Asunto: Re: [OT] Firefox 11 con caché de datos en disco duro El Sat, 07 Apr 2012 23:04:50 +0100, Rodolfo Vargas escribió: (tu webmail ha destrozado las citas...) ?¿, uso yahoo para mandar correos..., :O Que pena que lo hayan sacado (firefox 11) por default, era una muy buena técnica para lograr capturar algunos archivos, videos y otras cosas por ese medio... Aún se puede hacer, ojo, pero tienes que desactivar la opción de eliminar el contenido del caché al cerrar el navegador, y por ahí no paso porque te quedas con toda la basura que van dejando los sitios web en tu disco duro y tienes que acordarte de eliminar esos datos manualmente. Pues para videos en formato flv u otro pues creo que los complementos de firefox es una buena alternativa :), hace mucho que hacía las descargas con los temporales del querido internet explorer y el firefox, pero luego de concer los complemnetos ya no tengo necesidad de la cache :), bueno amiga Camaleon, paciencia y mejor usa complemento por ahora hasta que lo vuelvan a poner como antes, saludos. Sí, los complementos que permiten descargar vídeos y elementos multimedia están bien pero es una pena perder opciones de configuración en Firefox de una forma tan gratuita, tan a la ligera... en fin, al final he abierto un bug en Mozilla, aunque seguramente lo dejen como está por lo menos ahí queda registrada la queja: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743337 Buen trabajo!, saludos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls416$f2u$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Firefox 11 con caché de datos en disco duro
2012/4/8 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Sat, 07 Apr 2012 23:04:50 +0100, Rodolfo Vargas escribió: (tu webmail ha destrozado las citas...) Que pena que lo hayan sacado (firefox 11) por default, era una muy buena técnica para lograr capturar algunos archivos, videos y otras cosas por ese medio... Aún se puede hacer, ojo, pero tienes que desactivar la opción de eliminar el contenido del caché al cerrar el navegador, y por ahí no paso porque te quedas con toda la basura que van dejando los sitios web en tu disco duro y tienes que acordarte de eliminar esos datos manualmente. Una idea rápida, podrían montar el directorio de cache del navegador (~/.mozilla/firefox//Cache) como un tmpfs. Así quedan los datos si los necesitas tras cerrar el navegador y se borran al reiniciar la máquina. Saludos -- Linux Registered User # 386081 A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caabycjpjtuo2hgmeofpvzuvxe-c3ubhqyun4pcntda3xajh...@mail.gmail.com
Backup Remoto
Buenas noches: Tengo una necesidad, en mi trabajo me piden mandar un backup de datos de un servidor debian a otro de otra sucursal y se me está complicando. El escenario es el siguiente, en el servidor de la sucursal A tengo un directorio de 140Gb que se actualiza dia a dia con los archivos que se agregan y modifican ese dia. Se hace un backup incremental de esos archivos nuevos, sin borrar lo que se fue borrando de cada maquina en un directorio oculto. Ahora me piden que ese directorio lo mande a otra sucursal. Yo pensaba comprimirlo con tar y enviarlo a la madrugada, una vez y luego hacer copias incrementales de ese mismo tar y enviarlas semanalmente. El tema es que no se me ocurre como hacerlo y no se que va a pasar la primera vez, ya que no debe ser muy facil pasar un archivo de 100 gb por internet. No tengo NADA de experiencia en esto y no hay administrador de sistemas, me arreglo yo como puedo con todo. No quiero que nadie me haga el trabajo, solamente que me den ideas para investigar y asi poder armar los scripts. El backup local que se hace a diario ya lo tengo y funciona perfecto. La linea para comprimir el directorio de backup la tengo (tar -Pvuf backup.tar /directorio-de-backup-local). Lo que me falta saber es si una vez que tenga el primer backup hecho, puedo copiar los archivos nuevos y modificados en un archivo diferente, es decir, por primera vez hago el tar y me queda en el archivo backup-completo.tar.gz y luego hago una copia incremental en archivo-ddmm.tar.gz, asi lo que envio a la otra sucursal es este ultimo archivo semanal y no todo de nuevo cada vez. ¿Estoy en lo correcto? Gracias a quien me pueda dar una mano desde ya. saludos Juan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFa+n8rmB2sG8KgRmVJ=GiOD5m1jYo=ypqfqbseonqiw4ar...@mail.gmail.com
RE: Backup Remoto
Hecha mano de rsync con ssh Sent from Moxier Mail (http://www.moxier.com) - Mensaje original - De: Juan jawif...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Enviado: 08/04/2012 20:42 Asunto: Backup Remoto Buenas noches: Tengo una necesidad, en mi trabajo me piden mandar un backup de datos de un servidor debian a otro de otra sucursal y se me está complicando. El escenario es el siguiente, en el servidor de la sucursal A tengo un directorio de 140Gb que se actualiza dia a dia con los archivos que se agregan y modifican ese dia. Se hace un backup incremental de esos archivos nuevos, sin borrar lo que se fue borrando de cada maquina en un directorio oculto. Ahora me piden que ese directorio lo mande a otra sucursal. Yo pensaba comprimirlo con tar y enviarlo a la madrugada, una vez y luego hacer copias incrementales de ese mismo tar y enviarlas semanalmente. El tema es que no se me ocurre como hacerlo y no se que va a pasar la primera vez, ya que no debe ser muy facil pasar un archivo de 100 gb por internet. No tengo NADA de experiencia en esto y no hay administrador de sistemas, me arreglo yo como puedo con todo. No quiero que nadie me haga el trabajo, solamente que me den ideas para investigar y asi poder armar los scripts. El backup local que se hace a diario ya lo tengo y funciona perfecto. La linea para comprimir el directorio de backup la tengo (tar -Pvuf backup.tar /directorio-de-backup-local). Lo que me falta saber es si una vez que tenga el primer backup hecho, puedo copiar los archivos nuevos y modificados en un archivo diferente, es decir, por primera vez hago el tar y me queda en el archivo backup-completo.tar.gz y luego hago una copia incremental en archivo-ddmm.tar.gz, asi lo que envio a la otra sucursal es este ultimo archivo semanal y no todo de nuevo cada vez. ¿Estoy en lo correcto? Gracias a quien me pueda dar una mano desde ya. saludos Juan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFa+n8rmB2sG8KgRmVJ=OD5m1jYo=qfqbseonqiw4ar...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/snt0-eas13451acdec999a3b68d8a8aaa...@phx.gbl
Re: Backup Remoto
2012/4/8 Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl do...@hotmail.com Hecha mano de rsync con ssh Correcto, con rsync lo puede solucionar. Solo que 100 GB por internet es una locura realmente. los 100GB ya estan compresos? Que tipos de archivos son? -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html
Re: RE: Backup Remoto
Una buena herramienta que usa rsync y ssh es unison. Permite ademas hacer respaldos remotos en batch mode. Hecha mano de rsync con ssh Sent from Moxier Mail (http://www.moxier.com) - Mensaje original - De: Juan jawif...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Enviado: 08/04/2012 20:42 Asunto: Backup Remoto Buenas noches: Tengo una necesidad, en mi trabajo me piden mandar un backup de datos de un servidor debian a otro de otra sucursal y se me está complicando. El escenario es el siguiente, en el servidor de la sucursal A tengo un directorio de 140Gb que se actualiza dia a dia con los archivos que se agregan y modifican ese dia. Se hace un backup incremental de esos archivos nuevos, sin borrar lo que se fue borrando de cada maquina en un directorio oculto. Ahora me piden que ese directorio lo mande a otra sucursal. Yo pensaba comprimirlo con tar y enviarlo a la madrugada, una vez y luego hacer copias incrementales de ese mismo tar y enviarlas semanalmente. El tema es que no se me ocurre como hacerlo y no se que va a pasar la primera vez, ya que no debe ser muy facil pasar un archivo de 100 gb por internet. No tengo NADA de experiencia en esto y no hay administrador de sistemas, me arreglo yo como puedo con todo. No quiero que nadie me haga el trabajo, solamente que me den ideas para investigar y asi poder armar los scripts. El backup local que se hace a diario ya lo tengo y funciona perfecto. La linea para comprimir el directorio de backup la tengo (tar -Pvuf backup.tar /directorio-de-backup-local). Lo que me falta saber es si una vez que tenga el primer backup hecho, puedo copiar los archivos nuevos y modificados en un archivo diferente, es decir, por primera vez hago el tar y me queda en el archivo backup-completo.tar.gz y luego hago una copia incremental en archivo-ddmm.tar.gz, asi lo que envio a la otra sucursal es este ultimo archivo semanal y no todo de nuevo cada vez. ¿Estoy en lo correcto? Gracias a quien me pueda dar una mano desde ya. saludos Juan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFa+n8rmB2sG8KgRmVJ=OD5m1jYo=qfqbseonqiw4ar...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/snt0-eas13451acdec999a3b68d8a8aaa...@phx.gbl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ee9de49df8dc7662cdd361712a8dc8a2.squir...@webmail.calel.org
Fwd: Backup Remoto
perdon!! ahora va a la lista!!! -- Mensaje reenviado -- De: Juan jawif...@gmail.com Fecha: 9 de abril de 2012 00:07 Asunto: Re: Backup Remoto Para: CHACO diego.cha...@gmail.com El día 8 de abril de 2012 23:28, CHACO diego.cha...@gmail.com escribió: 2012/4/8 Juan jawif...@gmail.com El día 8 de abril de 2012 23:12, CHACO diego.cha...@gmail.com escribió: 2012/4/8 Lic. Domingo Varela Yahuitl do...@hotmail.com Hecha mano de rsync con ssh Correcto, con rsync lo puede solucionar. Solo que 100 GB por internet es una locura realmente. los 100GB ya estan compresos? Que tipos de archivos son? Hola gracias por las respuestas, ustedes me dicen rsync, pero con rsync paso el tar o los archivos de a uno? Puse lo de 100 gb como orientacion, el directorio acturalmente pesa 141 gb SIN comprimir. Tengo que cmprimirlo para ver en que queda, son paginas de un diario, en pdf, fotos, textos y planilla de openoffice, etc. Ya lo pongo a comprimir y les digo el peso real del tar. Gracias Si va a usar rsync mejor no lo comprima. Rsync syncroniza ambas carpetas de manera que luego de ejecutar el respaldo, podra en el destino todo lo que no este en el origen hasta dejarlo igual. Acá no entiendo bien, es correcta la frase podra en el destino todo lo que no este en el origen hasta dejarlo igual. o quiso decir que pondra lo que no está en el Destino pero si está en el origen? Si lo comprime siempre será un archivo diferente. Esto es cierto, no lo habia pensado así La pregunta es cuantos GB agrega diariamente al respaldo? y si todos son necesarios. No son Gb diarios, son algunos megas diarios, poco. El tema es la copia inicial, ya que esos 140Gb que mencione son de años acumulados, una vez que pasen, semanalmente pueden ser de 100 a 200/250 MB, no más que eso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFa+n8qN24Ly1upz0bw=_ftz_o0-q9zx+sc0j_peecsrpei...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Backup Remoto
El dom, 08-04-2012 a las 22:41 -0300, Juan escribió: El tema es que no se me ocurre como hacerlo y no se que va a pasar la primera vez, ya que no debe ser muy facil pasar un archivo de 100 gb por internet. No tengo NADA de experiencia en esto y no hay administrador de sistemas, me arreglo yo como puedo con todo. Efectivamente vas a tener un problema, aunque dependerá del ancho de banda que tengas disponible para pasar esos 100 GB. Una posibilidad es que los mandes físicamente en un disco duro, y a partir de ahí hagas los incrementales. Aunque los backups hechos a mano con scripts pueden funcionar perfectamente, ten en cuenta que hay herramientas hechas para solucionar ese problema. Podrías empezar investigando rsync, y si necesitas más potencia pues puedes ver otras como bacula. Un saludo JulHer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: nertankning av program från Sveriges Radio
On 2012-04-07 18:22 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Hej! När det gäller nertankning av program från svt fick jag bra hjälp här. Den nya frågan är om någon kan berätta vad jag gör med program på Sveriges Radio som tex: http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx spaams script lär funka finfint, men rent generellt är .axs-filen bara en XML-fil där ström-URL:er syns rätt tydligt. $ curl -s 'http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx' | grep -F 'ref' ref href=http://sverigesradio.se/topsy/ljudfil/3829349.m4a; / Men spaams script är snyggare :-), men om man stöter på sånna på andra ställen så brukar de inte vara några problem. -- --- | Olof Johansson http://stdlib.se/ | --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408084732.gt21...@brutus.ethup.se
Re: nertankning av program från Sveriges Radio
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:12:53 +0200 Johan Andersson j...@i19.se wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:40:03PM +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:47:32 +0200 Olof Johansson o...@ethup.se wrote: On 2012-04-07 18:22 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Hej! När det gäller nertankning av program från svt fick jag bra hjälp här. Den nya frågan är om någon kan berätta vad jag gör med program på Sveriges Radio som tex: http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx spaams script lär funka finfint, men rent generellt är .axs-filen bara en XML-fil där ström-URL:er syns rätt tydligt. $ curl -s 'http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx' | grep -F 'ref' ref href=http://sverigesradio.se/topsy/ljudfil/3829349.m4a; / Men spaams script är snyggare :-), men om man stöter på sånna på andra ställen så brukar de inte vara några problem. Tricket med curl fungerade utmärkt däremot gick det inte så bra med spaams script, se nedan. Handhavandefel? /Janne Jag har updaterat svtplay-dl nu så pulla så funkar det om du skickar en sådan url. Snabbt jobbat! Jag testar i eftermiddag. /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408144225.08d25...@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se
Re: nertankning av program från Sveriges Radio
Lysande! Verkar fungera perfekt. Tack! /Janne On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:42:25 +0200 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 14:12:53 +0200 Johan Andersson j...@i19.se wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:40:03PM +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 10:47:32 +0200 Olof Johansson o...@ethup.se wrote: On 2012-04-07 18:22 +0200, j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Hej! När det gäller nertankning av program från svt fick jag bra hjälp här. Den nya frågan är om någon kan berätta vad jag gör med program på Sveriges Radio som tex: http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx spaams script lär funka finfint, men rent generellt är .axs-filen bara en XML-fil där ström-URL:er syns rätt tydligt. $ curl -s 'http://sverigesradio.se/api/radio/radio.aspx?type=broadcastid=3829349codingformat=.m4ametafile=asx' | grep -F 'ref' ref href=http://sverigesradio.se/topsy/ljudfil/3829349.m4a; / Men spaams script är snyggare :-), men om man stöter på sånna på andra ställen så brukar de inte vara några problem. Tricket med curl fungerade utmärkt däremot gick det inte så bra med spaams script, se nedan. Handhavandefel? /Janne Jag har updaterat svtplay-dl nu så pulla så funkar det om du skickar en sådan url. Snabbt jobbat! Jag testar i eftermiddag. /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408165846.74b16...@nikolai.lillahusetiskogen.se
Re: [OT] Something about google search
Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. 2] I download the Add Links to Google Bar form http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/115780 3] : I don't know how to set the mail.google.com to the host of www.google.com, changed (document.location.host == www.google.com not work) ~/.mozilla/firefox/fs7z3prz.default/gm_scripts/Add_Links_to_Google_Bar$ more 115780.user.js // ==UserScript== // @name Add Links to Google Bar // @version 1.0 // @namespace http://nitinjain.info // @description Adds new links to the Google Bar // @license GPL v2 // @include https://*.google.com/* // @include http://*.google.com/* // @include http://*.google.com.* // ==/UserScript== var docment=null; if (document.location.host == mail.google.com) docment = document.getElementById('canvas_frame').contentDocument; else docment = document; var googlebar = docment.getElementById('gbz').getElementsByClassName('gbtc')[0] ; var newLinks =[]; // Add your links here.. //newLinks.push({name: 'Facebook', href: 'http://www.facebook.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Yahoo', href: 'http://www.yahoo.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Bing', href: 'http://www.bing.com'}); newLinks.push({name: 'Scholar', href: 'http://scholar.google.com.sg/schhp?hl=en '}) // Finish your custom links.. for (var i = 0; i newLinks.length; i++) { var newli = document.createElement('li'); newli.setAttribute('class', 'gbt'); googlebar.appendChild(newli); var newlink = document.createElement('a'); newlink.setAttribute('href', newLinks[i].href); newlink.setAttribute('class', 'gbzt'); newli.appendChild(newlink); var span1 = document.createElement('span'); span1.setAttribute('class', 'gbtb2'); newlink.appendChild(span1); var textlink = document.createElement('span'); textlink.setAttribute('class', 'gbts'); textlink.innerHTML = newLinks[i].name; newlink.appendChild(textlink); } Thanks again, Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJm=oh+p8qncnvqkmikpcvrc77nylcwtgktwzuioqjuw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
I never use it any other way. I tend to forget that it has an ncurses mode. Which would explain why I thought that both apt and aptitude can be used for day to day operations. I don't have aptitude, never used it. Why would one need apt-get and aptitude together? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9ucnf8fpa...@mid.individual.net
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Re: RAID1 does not boot
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:26:44 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:31:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: Thank you every one for helping me. actually i followed and read every thing but just grub install /dev/sdb alone didn't help What was the ouput for the above command? Maybe it returned an error but we can't know. Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb Only that information was displayed? I'd would have expected more (searching for splash image, searching for kernel...), but well, at a first glance looks right to me, no errors at least. no, it only display the above nothing else. Just in case, try to run update-grub and check if that fixes the booting issue. ok if i update-grub it means i will shift from grub 1 to 2 maybe so is it going to effect any thing because i haven't work on grub 2 before. i am big time lenny user as i am new and i always look for stable version can grab my hairs for any errors and there are experienced people who can help with lenny. grub grub root (hd0,0) grub setup (hd0) grub root (hd1,0) grub setup (hd1) grub quit I warned you about not copy/paste (grrr...) :-) of-course i didn't copy paste :) Well done, then. Is that I'm very thorough when playing with the bootloader :-) The above will only work if these two apply: - You have GRUB legacy (GRUB2 partitions now start at 1 instead 0) - Your /boot partition is located in the first partition of the first/ second disk ok Thanks, ill read on that. If you're using GRUB2 I can't understand why the those commands did not complain given that partition 0 shouldn't exist :-? no i think lenny come with grub 1 by default and i am using the default one. what is that complain. can you please explain. i ll update to grub 2 and show you the command output. but are you sure its not going to hurt the running machine because i dont wana conduct the whole installation again :( its a pain. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlmtms$j6g$8...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfMkcQi1c266uwiHRkSWAw0brT18v8D0U=q1av5ku2js...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Something about google search
On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p 2] I download the Add Links to Google Bar form http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/115780 3] : I don't know how to set the mail.google.com to the host of www.google.com, changed (document.location.host == www.google.com not work) Huh? Why are you trying to change that? snipped If you want to modify the example links (to Bing, Fffacebook etc) or add a custom one - the section to modify is between the Add your links here and Finish your custom links.. comments. (obscure huh?) // Add your links here.. //newLinks.push({name: 'Facebook', href: 'http://www.facebook.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Yahoo', href: 'http://www.yahoo.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Bing', href: 'http://www.bing.com'}); eg. replacing that section with the following will add a single new link called Debian which is a href to debian.org // Add your links here.. //newLinks.push({name: 'Debian', href: 'http://debian.org'}); // Finish your custom links.. If you want to *remove* some of the visible links in the default Google search page, and add custom ones or rearrange the existing ones - this script will not do it. snipped Thanks again, Best regards, If you have problems with the script it's best to contact the maintainer (at the link you posted) or a javascript forum, instead of bombing this list with questions not related to Debian. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f813c9a.9050...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote: Mika Suomalainen wrote: As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first started complaining about it didn't use Enigmail and/or pasted only the signature block without message which it belongs to. You may have a valid signature, but the way you have Icedove configured to post your signature inline both means that it clutters up viewing and replying, and prevents automatic signature validation (at least in mutt) from working. While there's a well known procmail recipe to convert clearsigned signatures to detached signatures, I personally stopped using it, as clearsigned signatures are rare and deprecated. I'd recommend switching to a detached signature. As I have explained at least two times, K9 Mail which I use on Android doesn't support S/MIME. It cannot sign nor encrypt nor verify S/MIME signatures. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgT/fAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoaPMP/iZdFgMe2r9cGpxY3fgvgl55 drM60jFIMi583uey1hzXx80k1PX+yU5v79D4w6JdjeTGjIzNAstJpvY4bWDjMAqp 8eYPwhu70qY9gYxMBqbCvUw38J27gz2zB8Lmm5ur5KLeOZ/jUnJP3oRxVyhOXX2B OTCvJmcLkp9xyDw5YAetpIygEl8qXG3hU4um7zNEHZCSS7BGXjEWwZwYdcvkybO0 ZoIhVxOLMlFT92zWvQMYGCEC2COBWnufYdp2wbRQy3RGgudLb4o2cUPFe61kREiO IlFUwe51uWfD/F3dHJerOFxSC1dqtpkdWDtgVro31GGeSU5Gb8i2JTM+O27DfXVW xSg/KfAb80EOfoFiuAlqfaA8tV3Q0wiHcnROtr+P/QbruQFSJRrfFIJ/j8mV9fbo AJbZG+cBOJZqNxLFrUioaKh8EeIrnDOzrGVqvwcdeJfxrbcWvWFZNgrKwyyLeMPI iZuyfLlZE/n1TV46EJTkNk+N7FqUo0g/J11P+6slSra47RhANelH4//20X+h44AV IidlaoFL8Zy/QfSV12r9DxXIMu6XWuIttTekyO59NzyIi2SpP1B7JUImygv1AcLW 9NFxB7wTlCvmIOdCfcN0ZXsFh71T09+SPhczcyfCHCz/qLjCm8CiB0Y3LrknDDH5 3FDvf5nHCc2Q8WJZcSxx =C5B/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f813fe2.4000...@hotmail.com
Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem
On 04/07/12 16:41, Gary Roach wrote: If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the bios finds my CDROM drive but not the hard drive. If the configuration is set to Legacy the bios finds the hard drive but not my CDROM drive. The hard drive is on IDE -1 as master (or stand alone, makes no difference) and the CDROM is on IDE-2 as master. Swapping cables didn't help. The two units are mounted too far apart to make one master and the other slave on the same IDE port. Assuming that you are planning on booting from the hard drive, set the BIOS so that the hard drive is recognized. The fact that the BIOS does not recognize the existence of the CDROM should not matter. Once it has booted (unless things have changed since I started using linux about 14 years ago) linux does not use the BIOS and should detect the CDROM drive even though the BIOS does not. Back in the days before I found linux, I had a hard drive that apparently stopped working just because there was a lightning strike on a transformer about 1/4 mile from our trailer while I was booted up and remotely logged into another system. The box would not even boot if the drive was installed and listed in the BIOS setup, even if I was not trying to boot from that drive. I removed the drive, but did not get rid of it because I am a pack-rat. Then I started using linux and, at some point, decided to see if there was any chance that I could boot into linux with the drive installed, in an attempt to salvage any of the data on the disk. As it turned out, if I listed the drive in the BIOS setup then the system would not boot, but if I did not list the drive then the system would boot just fine from another drive and linux, having booted, ignored the BIOS and found the drive and was able to read everything from it that I wanted. By then, I had recreated, or regenerated any data that I actually needed from the drive, so I did not really need to retrieve any data, but it did give me more available disk space. Disk space is good! Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f814093.8010...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen s.mik...@gmail.com wrote: GPG Inline signature is easier to verify if you copy-paste that email from mailing list archive. Not really, since you can just download the mbox version and verify it directly with MIME anyway. And how does this happen manually? I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail. Sounds like a personal problem. It's not our fault APG and K9 are living in the past, so don't take it out on us. I cannot say that APG and K9 are living in the past, because they are the only PGP implementation and email client, which supports PGP for Android. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgULgAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoNQsQAKtKHTOWMEv/FIjuO4Bl4K9j 7NrD3iJx4c3dEUeM09gCvOWe4gigGZhEqqToOdFILg+wm+Ne8zqWrQalv44mpGMk z9M9Sj5jk8JBH/VFypgAIq9AP5UBGOLhQyrV2FsQvkKfzyyC86uvPaF3Jfs/HcaG Mea0AUlIeHH0MgkO0/jkBXcZOHPO86JGYYRoRvyDFQz46yOndyiE3a0A7bbHd8Cl 5tqyB8wxPHlFLcPamnqYoLzmCyIFoGW3qf9I1G04FAIBRdhr07j901f+7LSs8IEy d1HKQaOdwPSQTLyhUQ2GBGL+LBX2H5pZHW67Ge8IZOy8qaR4TSXFdHe+U6x4fEpS q0XBsbdRUZo7NB5uisLcvJ+ex9Y3DIC49iS3oMKY1ewxeUA9v/tQ7AHEWmgtlA7r ChTzS1lt35sA6sRGRsangX9pCnWqUt7iinr4mxWOWoPKDQ4SECdxvN0w3G8MDlMj hBrJLF9RFfTRhOEBXZM2ljg+3WnC2RcEZP9iobJ4q8Jr1sz01/NOChPPsto4WvqX 84t14EXYieFg7teQfXSP1hfcHIwijVy25yYUnPFU74rB181CVQ5If+kFyD3LwUyq 4cGxvAJ3gaK60JBwZOtEQR6Zn3goU3eGgXH2o7ivGRQrS2k2aEEZeuN2+r+E8rBp AOB0HkdJqI8Pd+yxPHVK =SPLW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8142e2.1080...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Now thats uncalled for. My point was, that Mika's posts are difficult to read as it is (because he doesn't trim them) without all that extra stuff at the end. I haven't read all the thread yet, so bearing that in mind, I think it is fine to sign your emails. In fact, many developers¹ do and I can see good reason to. Mika: Is it possible to sign your mail *without* sending the whole key² as well or is that another problem with enigmail? My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to this message. Ahhh... wait a minute. Enigmail is capable of signing, authenticating, encrypting and decrypting email. Additionally, it supports both the inline PGP format, as well as the PGP/MIME format as described in RFC 3156. If you change to the newer PGP/MIME format and see ² hopefully that should at least halve your post content. As I have said three times in this same thread, I also use K9 Mail on phone and it doesn't support PGP/MIME. ¹ Although most tend to use mutt which uses gnupg. ² If that is in fact what it is; I suggest uploading your key to a keyserver, and just publishing the fingerprint. I have published my key to keyserver and I have both, keyid and fingerprint mentioned in my emails in automatically added signature. Look at the third and fourth lines after this line. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgUZoAAoJEE21PP6CpGcofjkP+wdKWksogsQ2nOYjOs/+pY0y WgyqMI+NmNWdQgwQOZyJ1fKsXcGpzTKPlXe6lkw8vQ9U3FcDw90zGSdSMMshkEPr CMpBft1ABSUq1bbuRiay+q1wZ5j0WsUt0EyROprA3npbQhaK4rMe56nE1NM9i5MO Fo4meUJnAXvEVtbpqGOJQW/WPk4g/gJbMfX9635YKrPPk9eOOvIXqtp3nd6DFQMw n2rrFTlCIVvCXxXkNMufup9YY9Q5gHwkqvSXpYurNNCW+NvJ4cR2Mwx1X+xbMRne df2P2OOuz3AQhSKQqEbtNDchWKT3htQ+MEE0FUZub685q2bkJHUsPkdANrUoO3// 0ej51UHWWNFdH5Up4S+6yUYpDEeg40JAPab9ghK3XL2bE/NC2hsp+DX9tPgQ+4z3 kq3Ia6LpzvIWNuvj+85QDEoM8dcClzqJ4w2UW2qHJ3s/z2hvbVxsfJ9o9ss15C0m JTboVfmsReNud/zJTgXZAiZi889XkZSMN9F8+azz549AJUFWQB2FaTxp3tp6qsxn DTVpF8KmDOupThCfRsNAt0d9H+1y+VYiBv6crimXWorxHIU0PYGV/IajZQTvrDkG ljxDzRB+DghgGu6grzvVHbDU7aOwCe5w5qXHznos5VvEqyy1oV9Gkd2u6EJOtlCo q2RkLppxkkPBboukRy1f =Pb+v -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0x82A46728.asc Description: application/pgp-keys 0x82A46728.asc.sig Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail. Nice try. :) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 But IT IS supported by Icedove/10.0.3, which you can and obviously use to post messages to this list. If you look at all my messages, some of them are send from K9 Mail. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgUbHAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoZ1EQALsk2amTqRzxumNVbEEthvKO MXKgPu6O0gS798kE3W/d1BcZsqfKMM0XPHkmQVvqIT6y7Jy6in/wLD2uxEenXS9Z GnJWJh/myFdwF76QQqULUU89CXCnZWQz9VKokxnTNdC2RbTuQBpS7J9RAA8/lGE6 6xj5iUNCaMkB+QuYd55dG/vpdERaQ2gtXiW/sFKgCAOlv0DAZ7X1TnfRt8Q3RNQZ boB7mOpxCE3P/+AqmPMIoeUdHtSXS8q6aTHHYJM/74chEcFgHIm+DYs1h49Z/1UQ eqXSiMS/rV4PdyYdvVAmNVCONG+06kppAthZwswORGLQaotbzXGVF9cM3+vpMmky Ton+hssQd1P5Lnrc6PqrOpOMUhbPVWga1Wtryebu/Mt9FoCrpLtDxzr3NkCJKR1/ DQEXUhsx0sAVR4uBF4LCyY1rnMvoXTncb77ziuRgzkucWl5bDI09U9uxR7PURBnh epelZwMG3uAsk/VCN6lCGN/gNIz3RO3bZJrtPQZXq7NlfShTsqqNu22RTqkUUq7S TJbpAoeZQZQXxg2gWmV3RBYahbS2NywccWtLjayRJXtgEdWYIEHk1j38M/3K9PYh 5krbKfk8/kxkLamvy7ksuEbNcmXrP98e/pRgLTErV9Lek+PahAxSzq/YL9ZjsVt1 0QZMaPf8ZxsZwakYVLDK =x6i5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8146ca.3010...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 08/04/12 17:48, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen s.mik...@gmail.com wrote: snipped I cannot say that APG and K9 are living in the past, because they are the only PGP implementation and email client, which supports PGP for Android. Perhaps. But AGP and K9 are broken. Signing only doesn't produce a valid signature (as I demonstrated to you offlist[*1]). http://code.google.com/p/android-privacy-guard/issues/detail?id=13colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary%20Reporter [*1] have you managed to validate your own signed mail yet? Have you found anyone else that can? Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81486a.1090...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Something about google search
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p 2] I download the Add Links to Google Bar form http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/115780 3] : I don't know how to set the mail.google.com to the host of www.google.com, changed (document.location.host == www.google.com not work) Huh? Why are you trying to change that? The new-added item only show when I am in mail.gmail.com I wish the new-added item to be shown on the www.google.com that's why I wish to know which should be fit for the value of document.location.host == snipped If you want to modify the example links (to Bing, Fffacebook etc) or add a custom one - the section to modify is between the Add your links here and Finish your custom links.. comments. (obscure huh?) // Add your links here.. //newLinks.push({name: 'Facebook', href: 'http://www.facebook.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Yahoo', href: 'http://www.yahoo.com'}); //newLinks.push({name: 'Bing', href: 'http://www.bing.com'}); eg. replacing that section with the following will add a single new link called Debian which is a href to debian.org // Add your links here.. //newLinks.push({name: 'Debian', href: 'http://debian.org'}); // Finish your custom links.. If you want to *remove* some of the visible links in the default Google search page, and add custom ones or rearrange the existing ones - this script will not do it. snipped Thanks again, Best regards, If you have problems with the script it's best to contact the maintainer (at the link you posted) or a javascript forum, instead of bombing this list with questions not related to Debian. Thanks Best regards, Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f813c9a.9050...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmnvwadjbziwz9ub7fp4sfruljh6qd_b0-ewtyyvrw2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 11:12, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 17:48, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 08.04.2012 00:25, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Mika Suomalainen s.mik...@gmail.com wrote: snipped I cannot say that APG and K9 are living in the past, because they are the only PGP implementation and email client, which supports PGP for Android. Perhaps. But AGP and K9 are broken. Signing only doesn't produce a valid signature (as I demonstrated to you offlist[*1]). http://code.google.com/p/android-privacy-guard/issues/detail?id=13colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Milestone%20Owner%20Summary%20Reporter [*1] have you managed to validate your own signed mail yet? Have you found anyone else that can? Kind regards Yes, I am able to verify my own signatures. Your link has weird way to sign, I don't do it that way. I only press the sign button and message is signed correctly and I can verify it. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgUyUAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoz7AQAKhwI81vt4bkLgkuvkXfqSYC zjGbGtsqSe7YE98bJDFnrsnco23A4p5Z4pk3Pt6FUicwrlkNd5cT1rcDe6uoi2iO y2RCaxgxZsQURsUaC1Ry8PBcc+rC3F5ZQuKRhJUnG0f87gubmHIYRvEK2U15blFS xu26hJw/wg6OKsIpMQNGeng1gDRBkVY5T2i04sGx3CIq8SMeu43GbTuXnuBCc8kh ZYMgMPoMSlgmceIB+RAUb4VpBPka1tDEJI1K5jP75k6U2pTu5i6amz0ryiBxDXbN D6ounyszw/7T4EHhF/EdhXg4XvZRNLKKiZ0jyIsSN7blQUGZX+t+Mj6E8P8uwm4e 4h/zKxbfqhQB2slQvcxmbZ+YIBn1Z16N44sgoUODk7FNWqKVq40AZYnn5YM05QTT 17Xm7CTHHFjBlednmquxxzaaM7tOpUPbcAzSDEGstWfFv/TxyCv42yqYoqRjS6GT ZuC/od3LGpgHIsYijYJm96aLz4kJBMAc2O67cXjh47DUdlQsGNFMewy4XXNkHGWh pMZ3jm0fGazP/pMwZ/Y2gCV8v4lfNHh6OUZzUQQ6e58m+cRxVzEpjUnkP3puzfvF tPbfTpsNWmLScE4tuNJ1bLG76Hxa0F4zxInVZPaQ8+v9ZO+F3rth/oi4svChDFyH 7silW7BkOUZUz+NRSiXK =E2f3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f814c98.2020...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 07/04/12 21:49, Indulekha wrote: Of course, that's merely my opinion.:) Not just your opinion, but the opinion of, probably, the silent majority. I also dislike that big block of 'signature'; it's annoying. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f814f33.6070...@gmail.com
Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem
On 08/04/12 00:41, Gary Roach wrote: Swapping cables didn't help. The two units are mounted too far apart to make one master and the other slave on the same IDE port. I've run out of ideas. Anyone else have any? Perhaps a longer cable.. (Upto 1 meter long, I think; may also be joined together.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f815185.90...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: I only press the sign button and message is signed correctly and I can verify it. Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the sign button, then. :-) -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caoevnytaekkif92i3qapo9mqxxmgsxjzn8hhcxgvbzbth16...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 08.04.2012 12:24, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com wrote: I only press the sign button and message is signed correctly and I can verify it. Then perhaps you could be so kind as to stop pressing the sign button, then. :-) That button is checked by default. If GPG INLINE signature is so big problem to everyone on this list, lets make agreement. I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature manually. I have been trying to do it for 45 minutes without getting anything else than message about BAD SIGNATURE. -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp
May I suggest the following command in order to see where files may be hidden? du -hx --max-depth=1 / | sort -h It may take a longer time to complete. It only examines the root partition. It should also show hidden disk usage in case something is mounted on a directory with files in it. The command can also be used for mounted partitions, e.g., du -hx --max-depth=1 /home | sort -h On my system the first command shows among other directories ... 4.0K/home ... and the second command 16K /home/lost+found ... 41G /home -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlrnbe$cmv$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: terminal prompts
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: [cut] The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed Icewm, I notice when I load an exterm, the prompt I get is % not the usual one setup in .bashrc. [cut] Can someone explain what's going on ? What;s your shell? tcsh? I **thought** it was DASH (the apparent default in Squeeze) so I ran dpkg-reconfigure dash and picked Bash as the default. But maybe it wasn't ? How do I find out for sure ? dpkg-reconfiguring dash will only update which shell is used to provide the /bin/sh link. This may or may not be the shell that users get when they open a terminal. To see what shell you're currently using, try running chsh (as yourself). That will tell you what your current login shell is. To change it, enter the full path to the executable, or to keep it, just press enter. HTH -- Paul Saunders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408104938.7f1d9...@fowler.darac.org.uk
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:05:30AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 08.04.2012 05:05, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:35AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: I cannot use S/MIME, because it's not supported by APG nor K9 Mail. Nice try. :) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 But IT IS supported by Icedove/10.0.3, which you can and obviously use to post messages to this list. If you look at all my messages, some of them are send from K9 Mail. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 2/2 so far. :) You could at least configure Icedove. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408100552.GA28264@tal
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:36:02AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 07.04.2012 22:10, Joey Hess wrote: Mika Suomalainen wrote: As far as I know, I have valid signature. That block which was pasted here is shown as invalid, because the one who first started complaining about it didn't use Enigmail and/or pasted only the signature block without message which it belongs to. You may have a valid signature, but the way you have Icedove configured to post your signature inline both means that it clutters up viewing and replying, and prevents automatic signature validation (at least in mutt) from working. While there's a well known procmail recipe to convert clearsigned signatures to detached signatures, I personally stopped using it, as clearsigned signatures are rare and deprecated. I'd recommend switching to a detached signature. As I have explained at least two times, K9 Mail which I use on Android doesn't support S/MIME. It cannot sign nor encrypt nor verify S/MIME signatures. Oh look! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 3/3 Go on, configure Icedove as suggested, and the odd occasion you do use your Android, won't matter, besides it would be interesting to see how easy it is. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408105130.GB28264@tal
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to this message. It diplays like so: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgUZoAAoJEE21PP6CpGcofjkP+wdKWksogsQ2nOYjOs/+pY0y WgyqMI+NmNWdQgwQOZyJ1fKsXcGpzTKPlXe6lkw8vQ9U3FcDw90zGSdSMMshkEPr CMpBft1ABSUq1bbuRiay+q1wZ5j0WsUt0EyROprA3npbQhaK4rMe56nE1NM9i5MO Fo4meUJnAXvEVtbpqGOJQW/WPk4g/gJbMfX9635YKrPPk9eOOvIXqtp3nd6DFQMw n2rrFTlCIVvCXxXkNMufup9YY9Q5gHwkqvSXpYurNNCW+NvJ4cR2Mwx1X+xbMRne df2P2OOuz3AQhSKQqEbtNDchWKT3htQ+MEE0FUZub685q2bkJHUsPkdANrUoO3// 0ej51UHWWNFdH5Up4S+6yUYpDEeg40JAPab9ghK3XL2bE/NC2hsp+DX9tPgQ+4z3 kq3Ia6LpzvIWNuvj+85QDEoM8dcClzqJ4w2UW2qHJ3s/z2hvbVxsfJ9o9ss15C0m JTboVfmsReNud/zJTgXZAiZi889XkZSMN9F8+azz549AJUFWQB2FaTxp3tp6qsxn DTVpF8KmDOupThCfRsNAt0d9H+1y+VYiBv6crimXWorxHIU0PYGV/IajZQTvrDkG ljxDzRB+DghgGu6grzvVHbDU7aOwCe5w5qXHznos5VvEqyy1oV9Gkd2u6EJOtlCo q2RkLppxkkPBboukRy1f =Pb+v -END PGP SIGNATURE- pub 4096R/82A46728 2012-03-27 Mika Suomalainen uidMika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com uidMika Suomalainen s.mik...@gmail.com sub 4096R/A4271AC5 2012-03-27 As I have said three times in this same thread, I also use K9 Mail on phone and it doesn't support PGP/MIME. Just do Icedove then. I have published my key to keyserver and I have both, keyid and fingerprint mentioned in my emails in automatically added signature. Look at the third and fourth lines after this line. Then you don't need to attach it. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408110106.GC28264@tal
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 13:51, Chris Bannister wrote: ... As I have explained at least two times, K9 Mail which I use on Android doesn't support S/MIME. It cannot sign nor encrypt nor verify S/MIME signatures. Oh look! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 3/3 Go on, configure Icedove as suggested, and the odd occasion you do use your Android, won't matter, besides it would be interesting to see how easy it is. Configuring Icedove to use PGP/MIME is just two clicks. If you read all messages, you know that I will move to PGP/MIME when anyone on this list explains to me how do I manually verify signature with PGP/MIME. Verifying INLINE signature = copy-paste the whole message to gpg. Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ? - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgX+KAAoJEE21PP6CpGcohTkP/Alx3PCA8xHpWSJZpBxDnTp6 EQS+0jO3tK8dpig7PbPxG/WOZ6+tkqexA01KA0q8PZq6AFb+4XET5TPGL3r9IIXV pUp57ydPdu4Yds8ZRtw4PB4jFda6HrGfHDwmO1nfV2nxOu6q5lj7zYjihD2F26on 9VguRENSKteylFDKr9Zoq3kEBkTBBayw4x6WK4qK8PrWS/c/R9aE27z/V090L377 m/9L7bP8Fs6HB35tAvrbRfV5ctKaJskR4dP84ImpaC+japkdBR4LNbC9+GdNifOy 7j9ygFmULqU4R9CrdeOjXoe7y/YwMJIARnTa+w3DUWQUyMxIAra5MzULD1UsLqJ6 B02XAwjDJ7btBI2DoVdFx56BBL0jL+KU0yGokrlqkFlgJvdYMDLRgGkBN0n5Dtrn fhNxTSIUvGo1yTVpgGhLJTVxumgPEdS0ycWHv3i+ZORDlXpWjjiaeEX2dx/ijvPb fZHsH7l8k+8fgBM3DZwMlfP91qoVSltwlq3LT0FV7bibXcdgdxbth12utax8uk0s SwVyb15TXmE47aIjOHpn3gw3jita2uSdzkzG8clWTyYRO8XIUAZr3j4FhJF18eiJ kfwS110Fo6cHywjOgAT2yodOHVUH/pv4u9nwARyi8t0e4BO/jtwXSzDK7T+sXSL6 5ELKnxEqqbxFdgwJla1+ =fnNH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f817f8c.4080...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08.04.2012 14:01, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:03:54AM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Oh look: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120329 Icedove/10.0.3 My whole key is not in signature. The key is this what is attached to this message. It diplays like so: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgUZoAAoJEE21PP6CpGcofjkP+wdKWksogsQ2nOYjOs/+pY0y WgyqMI+NmNWdQgwQOZyJ1fKsXcGpzTKPlXe6lkw8vQ9U3FcDw90zGSdSMMshkEPr CMpBft1ABSUq1bbuRiay+q1wZ5j0WsUt0EyROprA3npbQhaK4rMe56nE1NM9i5MO Fo4meUJnAXvEVtbpqGOJQW/WPk4g/gJbMfX9635YKrPPk9eOOvIXqtp3nd6DFQMw n2rrFTlCIVvCXxXkNMufup9YY9Q5gHwkqvSXpYurNNCW+NvJ4cR2Mwx1X+xbMRne df2P2OOuz3AQhSKQqEbtNDchWKT3htQ+MEE0FUZub685q2bkJHUsPkdANrUoO3// 0ej51UHWWNFdH5Up4S+6yUYpDEeg40JAPab9ghK3XL2bE/NC2hsp+DX9tPgQ+4z3 kq3Ia6LpzvIWNuvj+85QDEoM8dcClzqJ4w2UW2qHJ3s/z2hvbVxsfJ9o9ss15C0m JTboVfmsReNud/zJTgXZAiZi889XkZSMN9F8+azz549AJUFWQB2FaTxp3tp6qsxn DTVpF8KmDOupThCfRsNAt0d9H+1y+VYiBv6crimXWorxHIU0PYGV/IajZQTvrDkG ljxDzRB+DghgGu6grzvVHbDU7aOwCe5w5qXHznos5VvEqyy1oV9Gkd2u6EJOtlCo q2RkLppxkkPBboukRy1f =Pb+v -END PGP SIGNATURE- That is signature. pub 4096R/82A46728 2012-03-27 Mika Suomalainen uid Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com uid Mika Suomalainen s.mik...@gmail.com sub 4096R/A4271AC5 2012-03-27 As I have said three times in this same thread, I also use K9 Mail on phone and it doesn't support PGP/MIME. Just do Icedove then. Sometimes I must use phone to send emails. I have published my key to keyserver and I have both, keyid and fingerprint mentioned in my emails in automatically added signature. Look at the third and fourth lines after this line. Then you don't need to attach it. If you opened that attached key file and compared it to my signature, you would see that they are different. Please also see the previous message which I sent. Tell me how do I manually verify PGP/MIME signature and I will start using it on devices/clients which support it. - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPgYBlAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoJZUP/31u7Wgb7rnxeb28ZvJkeiK9 8JKdzARccPEOorgynIdtTbEnE5DfRomogx0pOpLNIG/8mO33GnTPcy+MNq+/9AhD qEf/S73hhMi2G8qaKNDgiyH7vEVXoSkspcTqocrak+deFUCVSBjOtpmIEwGZao4I VWWW/ezcWvfcW/DvQIlwXqzCJdc2YjYGiHXy+EufJcXOOyOogAjcz2+g115m9hmr Gijv9FAGg5uMVp+utZV2/strxX9gDXwwJDUpKhUkkG03k21G45u56Oxksyivcoa8 ujNutL7i3wQNg3kZyLChgxmi/lVQ8Cxj37v5hKE8j5EbG609RUEA5hDFIbqBfYtt uknTXu04RoX5CGAMdXK37FQqFdXQPcL/DTUXVeBEgx/J63Sv7Yl2EHSWstAPYOQ9 dA2HYBFVTzYwHNY9ztAUM+QbiBUfZ4UzRZI5mhXrSLop/VGPIYhsU4Ks/PEtNtVv 0T+7Y2hAQdQDb24rs1fDByhEbB+4/z2pc3WYeXpgnnipkkr5muIrVYFt+/KfwG7N yGFLSZ/ROOYbzzDl5J/1sG9Pe1Tbc5PBMlfsoARKgMFkrKWZREYga3s7fQwJitHo CZXl0DZafq1r9GGSCkK9C++ExZbVKkpMOcc/N1u1E1K+yOS99MRPxRCkPx8bIsP1 Cumr7dndHXu4roa8vCrZ =CA0w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f818067.10...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Something about google search
On 2012-04-08, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p They should change it then because I installed the greasy monkey is the most beautiful English sentence I've read today, and I doubt seriously things are going to get any better. It's funny, though, (in the sense of queer, odd), because I just finished reading a short story with a monkey in it named Alf. In the story, Alf is at home (a suburban house in Colorado) looking out the window (from the sill) into the front yard and a bird comes flying right at him, which makes jump back in fright, but when he does so he somehow lands under the legs of his owners rocking chair (a middle-aged woman) and his spine is broken as the woman rocks backwards in surprise. He dies on the spot (after letting out a very human-like scream). Now, if he would've been a greasy monkey, I'm thinking he might have survived the experience. Oh well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjo31fa.2a4.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote: I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their mail, that alone will set off alarm bells Yes - though it presupposes someone is monitoring that email. Which Obviously. It *could* be done automatically. Who knows why, but that is not worth speculating on really. Computer savvy jealous boy/girl friend, etc. would make a compelling reason *to* encrypt email. I said ... that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting ... and basic detective/social engineering work would reveal more than you would like. About the contents of the encrypted mail? Please elaborate and/or file a bug report. No, not the contents obviously. There is a lot of information in the headers, date sent, o/s, MUA, IP address etc etc. So if you *suddenly* start sending encrypted mail to a person of interest then you automatically appear on the radar of the people who, for whatever reason, are monitoring this person of interest and because they don't know whether the contents of the post are innocent ... Hollywood? Perhaps, but who knows. The point is, just because you send an encrypted mail or encrypt your laptop doesn't mean you can relax. Some people say that if you get a laptop with a finger identification setup on it you are safer, I say, the opposite, I want to keep all my fingers. If you encrypt your mail all the time (not sure who does) Lot's of people. It's a requirement in many areas of business. Is it? then the chances of anyone wasting resources to see what's up is considerably lower. I'm not sure that's a logical conclusion, but I'm not Bruce Schneier or Why? Resources are a finite commodity. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408123625.GD28264@tal
Re: [OT] Posting styles
Chris Bannister wrote: [Please trim your posts on this mailing list] On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:14:34AM -0400, PMA wrote: I'm not sure utterly is quite the word. Nobody in signing thinks a signature is needed to identify him. You're not confusing the cryptographic signature with the normal email signature, are you? I was, yes. And I am still not clear as to how this topic relates to the typed-in as opposed to the auto-append. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f818a99.20...@aya.yale.edu
Re: terminal prompts
On 08/04/12 05:49 AM, Paul Saunders wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: [cut] The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed Icewm, I notice when I load an exterm, the prompt I get is % not the usual one setup in .bashrc. [cut] Can someone explain what's going on ? What;s your shell? tcsh? I **thought** it was DASH (the apparent default in Squeeze) so I ran dpkg-reconfigure dash and picked Bash as the default. But maybe it wasn't ? How do I find out for sure ? dpkg-reconfiguring dash will only update which shell is used to provide the /bin/sh link. This may or may not be the shell that users get when they open a terminal. Ah..that explains that ! To see what shell you're currently using, try running chsh (as yourself). That will tell you what your current login shell is. To change it, enter the full path to the executable, or to keep it, just press enter. I am in another distro right now (Debian Sid, my favorite) but I will do that when I boot into Mepis. Thanks Paul -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8189cd.5030...@videotron.ca
bash: halt: command not found
Hello list, My system has been messed up :-( I have done a apt-get upgrade and since then some of the commands are not available in my box as root !!! ``` #whoami root #halt bash: halt: command not found #reboot bash: reboot: command not found I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( What should I do now ? This is wheezy Please help. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408183411.63123...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:59:38PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Though it's worth pointing out that the terms interleaved, inline, conversation, etc. are relatively new - reflecting, perhaps, a longer-standing practice. I can remember religious arguments about top vs. bottom posting back to ARPANET and USENET days. This is actually the first time I've see the more nuanced interleaved style explicitly identified in one of these threads. Exactly. Consider this post, is it interleaved, or bottom style? So if you are responding to just one point then, of course, it is bottom style but it is *also* conversation style. If there were two points being responded to then the distinction becomes more clear. I also believe that the waters were muddied by people discussing (me included) trimming, all in the same sentence/paragraph. So in a one off mail there is no real difference between bottom posting and interleaved/inline style. Generally, in mailing lists, posts are not one off and therefore the difference becomes more noticeable. I believe it is self evident which posts are easier to read especially when you bring trimming into the picture. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012040813.GE28264@tal
Re: bash: halt: command not found
Hello J., J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote: I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. To reinstall sysvinit, try # apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit This will also fix it if your local installation is somehow broken. However, if this is the case, you should check your filesystems/hardware ASAP. Best regards, Claudius -- This life is yours. Some of it was given to you; the rest, you made yourself. Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net telnet://nightfall.org:4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)
On 08/04/12 22:36, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 12:26, Chris Bannister wrote: I suppose you mean encrypting, you can still read signed mail. The point to note is that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting their mail, that alone will set off alarm bells Yes - though it presupposes someone is monitoring that email. Which Obviously. It *could* be done automatically. Who knows why, but that is not worth speculating on really. Computer savvy jealous boy/girl friend, etc. You're trying too hard. That path leads to paranoia. That using encryption might make people suspicious is no reason not to use encryption. Quite the reverse. If people you don't wish to share your information with want to know your business - use encryption. You propose that because communications might be under surveillance [*1] you should *not* secure communications with encryption. Huh? I refuse to sing Is this glove that I'm feeling in the hope that shifty eyed people don't look at me - but you pick your own music ;-p [*1]as if the information is volatile and surveillance can't be retrospective To further propose that encryption shouldn't be used because it employs finite resources boggles the mind. Surveillance is bad, privacy is good, but don't use up the resources of privacy invaders because it's use up precious resources. Oh right, because then they'll look at the people you're sending it too, and read the headers, and work out what was in the encrypted emails (and what you had for dinner). Surely they would just fly a nano drone through the wall vent and film your communications - or break into your house and bug it, or use Echelon, or, or. If you don't want every bored teenager who works for an email provider, or cracker hired by your business competitors, reading your email. Use encryption. Of course email magically bounces from the sender to the recipient without routing through dozens of machines so... oh wait. So people 'may' wonder what you're communicating about - *that's why you use encryption*. Maybe it's prompt them to look closer at what they can see. Same logic applies to drawing the curtains and shredding paperwork before binning it. The same logic applies to people who sensibly encrypt their computers. Fully encrypting a portable device is a sign of responsibility not suspicious activity. Worrying too much about what people might thing is possible a sign of something else. :-) NOTE: deniable encryption and stenography is a sign of suspicious activity - though maybe nothing more serious than furry fans, and of course, if they can prove deniable encryption - you're not doing it right. would make a compelling reason *to* encrypt email. I said ... that *if suddenly* two people start encrypting ... Which I read and quoted. snipped Some people say that if you get a laptop with a finger identification setup on it you are safer, I say, the opposite, I want to keep all my fingers. Too much Hollywood (or lead paint, the symptoms are similar). In the real world Sillyputty, bluetack, or certain chewy lollies are used to lift a print good enough to bypass both Dell and Lockwood fingerprint locks. Much simpler again to dust that dirty swipe with toner and cover with double red gels first though - can save a lot of time trying to find a good fingerprint (or just pulling out the hard drive). Fingerprint locks are not as good as decent passphrases. They're just there to make it hard for junkies to access your data when they steal your device - for people too lazy to learn how to produce a decent passphrase that doesn't need writing down. Unless coupled with encryption (which most of the laptop with them are) it's useless (remove hard drive, read). And lastly on that subject - are you the guy who *hasn't* seen the XKCD $5 spanner joke? :-) snipped Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8196a3.90...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Something about google search
On 04/08/2012 08:34 AM, Curt wrote: On 2012-04-08, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. Pretty sure it's greasEmonkey - but maybe that's the problem. ;-p They should change it then because I installed the greasy monkey is the most beautiful English sentence I've read today, and I doubt seriously things are going to get any better. It's funny, though, (in the sense of queer, odd), because I just finished reading a short story with a monkey in it named Alf. In the story, Alf is at home (a suburban house in Colorado) looking out the window (from the sill) into the front yard and a bird comes flying right at him, which makes jump back in fright, but when he does so he somehow lands under the legs of his owners rocking chair (a middle-aged woman) and his spine is broken as the woman rocks backwards in surprise. He dies on the spot (after letting out a very human-like scream). Now, if he would've been a greasy monkey, I'm thinking he might have survived the experience. Oh well. I love lina, Scott, and Curt. This made for an exceptionally nice start to my day. A great story, *and* the bonus of a new euphemism for -- uh, well, uh...I guess that's a little *too* OT. 8-) Best regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81965f.10...@comcast.net
Re: bash: halt: command not found
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 15:34:10 +0200 Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: Hello J., J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote: I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. To reinstall sysvinit, try # apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit Hello Claudius, You are the hero. It has fixed my box :-) Many many thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408192001.78a7a...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
Scott Ferguson wrote: ... I take that you are unable to defend your assertion that signing has a point without having to validate the sender. ie. it demonstrates that the email from an unverified sender is verified. Almost. I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, separately from the issue of verification. (And I realize I might better have kept this to myself.) There's a community convention which people adopt to get along with each other. You are free to ignore it and expect people to read you posts twice. We have filters. I have no wish to ignore the convention. My memory's failing some. I'll attune better to *which* posting convention (list) I find myself in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8198ac.6060...@aya.yale.edu
Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)
Chris Bannister wrote: Some people say that if you get a laptop with a finger identification setup on it you are safer, I say, the opposite, I want to keep all my fingers. All that does is prevent someone seeing your password -- Sent from Free Open Source Software Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f819469.4000...@yahoo.co.uk
Rants and raving in Las Vegas. (was ... Re: [OT] Something about google search)
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 05:22:02PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 16:00, lina wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. LOL, anything like the gimp? (Pulp Fiction reference.) If you have problems with the script it's best to contact the maintainer (at the link you posted) or a javascript forum, instead of bombing this list with questions not related to Debian. Or even better, start making use of: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic which Andrei thoughtfully setup and no one, including me, uses it. It would be good to have debian-user as a support ML and keep all the other stuff on d-community-offtopic. So for starters (for the archive, and cos I can't be bothered looking it up) can I set MFT (mail follow-up to) a CC'd list in this case: d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408134612.GF28264@tal
Re: terminal prompts
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: �I have run into a problem in Mepis but have been unable to get an answer yet from that community group. The distro is based on Debian Squeeze so I thought someone here night have the answer. Normally I run Debian Sid...Mepis is just an experiment The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed Icewm, I notice when I load an exterm, the prompt I get is % not the usual one setup in .bashrc. I have to actually run bash to get the normal prompt. It also affects the time it takes Midnight Commander to load, UNLESS I add the -u parm to the command line so it doesn't have shell facilities. Can someone explain what's going on ? What;s your shell? tcsh? I **thought** it was DASH (the apparent default in Squeeze) so I ran dpkg-reconfigure dash and picked Bash as the default. But maybe it wasn't ? How do I find out for sure ? /bin/dash is just linked to, by default, to /bin/sh. Run echo $SHELL to find out what shell you're running after logging in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szrgitxahgyxfdxreya1cabk36vuw-3tiuvqv4hmd+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: snipped I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, separately from the issue of verification. Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a digital signature used to show the post had not been modified since sending, and was sent by the person claiming to have sent it. (And I realize I might better have kept this to myself.) Too late - the secret is out. Now I know not everyone understands what is meant by validated signature. :-) snipped I have no wish to ignore the convention. My memory's failing some. I'll attune better to *which* posting convention (list) I find myself in. My bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling the it's not a rule let's vote on it line :-( Hopefully I'll learn from this (latest) error of judgement on my part. Perhaps in time you'll forgive me. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f8199d5.6010...@gmail.com
Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:52:53 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 04:57:34PM +, Camaleón wrote: - Pan (as newsreader for reading/post to mailing lists) - Mutt (as e-mail client for personal things) - Thunderbird (as e-mail client for work) - Liferea (as news feeder for reading web magazines and newspapers) (heck, I now realize why my RAM consumption reaches up to 1.5 GiB :-P) I like rawdog for a lightweight agregator. Although its ~350 KiB (uncompressed size) made my eyes round as plates, is too simple to my liking :-) If I were using a lightweight DE or window manager it would be a perfect companion but using a full GNOME3 with gnome-shell I expect more integration between the RSS reader with its environment. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls62n$f2u$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is. No sir, is just the name what is misleading. Bottom posting also applies for an inline style. Regardless its name, the main idea remains the same: the reply goes below of the text you are responding. So what's it called when you plonk everything at the bottom, oops sorry, at the very end? End posting? That's also bottom posting. No need to reinvent the wheel all the time. There is also conversation style or interleaved style which is the tried and proven preferred way for mailing lists; i.e the style you and many others use. That's also bottom posting ;-) No, you are confused. (...) That's *your* own interpretation of a well-defined well-known concept and of course, *you* can call them as you wish. I prefer to stick to what everybody else understand for it, which BTW, has been referenced in this same thread (by me), in a form of link to Wikipedia article about this issue: *** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting In the bottom-posting style, the reply is appended to a full or partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are the same when only one point is being replied to. *** Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions. correct? (...) Not at all when two of them (inline and bottom posting) share 99% of their features. Feel free to edit the Wikipedia article to match your own opinion ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls6o8$f2u$5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: bash: halt: command not found
On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 15:34:10 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote: I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. Acccording to http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/upstart/filelist the package has /sbin/shutdown. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408140446.GK16316@desktop
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:27:56PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: If GPG INLINE signature is so big problem to everyone on this list, lets make agreement. I promise to move to PGP/MIME (with clients which are compatible with it) when you have told me how do I verify PGP/MIME signature manually. I Great! have been trying to do it for 45 minutes without getting anything else than message about BAD SIGNATURE. Ok, I suggest to start a new thread and provide enough information so that someone can either replicate the problem or see where the problem lies. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408141810.GA32571@tal
Re: [OT] Posting styles
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: snipped I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, separately from the issue of verification. Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a digital signature used to show the post had not been modified since sending, and was sent by the person claiming to have sent it. I sense I'm willfully misunderstood, but in any case am dropping this issue. ... I have no wish to ignore the convention. My memory's failing some. I'll attune better to *which* posting convention (list) I find myself in. My bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling the it's not a rule let's vote on it line :-( That was *not* trolling. The LilyPond list (a digital-music-scoring site) had been debating just this top/bottom posting-style issue, and had fielded exactly this suggestion -- a vote among the list members. It struck especially as potentially helpful in the thread here. If my style in offering it was inappropriately cavalier, I apologize for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81a164.2000...@aya.yale.edu
Re: RAID1 does not boot
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:11:40 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb Only that information was displayed? I'd would have expected more (searching for splash image, searching for kernel...), but well, at a first glance looks right to me, no errors at least. no, it only display the above nothing else. Weird :-? Just in case, try to run update-grub and check if that fixes the booting issue. ok if i update-grub it means i will shift from grub 1 to 2 maybe so is it going to effect any thing because i haven't work on grub 2 before. i am big time lenny user as i am new and i always look for stable version can grab my hairs for any errors and there are experienced people who can help with lenny. Wait, wait... let's try to clear some points first. 1/ Are you using GRUB legacy or GRUB 2? I already asked you this but you still have not replied to this question (or I don't remember). It is important to know what's your GRUB's version as both versions differ a lot. 2/ update-grub is not used to upgrade GRUB legacy to GRUB 2, it's a routine used to reconciliate/populate the changes you've made in your menu or configuration files (read man update-grub if you need detailed info on what it does). 3/ Are you running Lenny or Squeeze? Lenny is not supported anymore (no security patches) so installing lenny -unless you have a specific requirement for doing so- is a bad move and a waste of time... you should reconsider getting squeeze instead. 4/ You will have to confront GRUB 2 sooner or later :-) If you're using GRUB2 I can't understand why the those commands did not complain given that partition 0 shouldn't exist :-? no i think lenny come with grub 1 by default and i am using the default one. what is that complain. can you please explain. i ll update to grub 2 and show you the command output. but are you sure its not going to hurt the running machine because i dont wana conduct the whole installation again :( its a pain. So you're running Lenny... then sir, I'm sorry to say this but you really should reconsider reinstalling your full system with squeeze (current Debian stable) and now that you still have not started to install packages I'd say is the best time for doing it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls7ps$f2u$6...@dough.gmane.org
skype?
Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. Google doesn't provide much enlightenment, has anyone got any tips, please? -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f819ec1.4040...@vanderhoff.org
Re: bash: halt: command not found
Hello Brian, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 08 Apr 2012 at 15:34:10 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: J. Bakshi baksh...@gmail.com wrote: I checked and the is no more /sbin/shutdown :-( Did you remove sysvinit? This happens, for example, when you install upstart, as it conflicts sysvinit. Acccording to http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/upstart/filelist the package has /sbin/shutdown. Trying to install upstart but failing to unpack the package might still result in a missing /sbin/shutdown, as sysvinit probably has to be removed first. This could, for example, happen because of a power outage. However, my mentioning of upstart was merely acting as an example of why sysvinit could have been removed – of course, other reasons why /sbin/shutdown are missing might still apply and be more probable, too. Best regards, Claudius -- Not everything worth doing is worth doing well. Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net telnet://nightfall.org:4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Something about google search
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: Thanks for all. 1] I installed the greasymonkey. 2] I download the Add Links to Google Bar form http://userscripts.org/scripts/review/115780 3] : I don't know how to set the mail.google.com to the host of www.google.com, changed (document.location.host == www.google.com not work) Why don't you just go to the URL the normal way, bookmark it, then give that bookmark a keyword? That's how I always do it No rodent fumbling necessary. -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408142522.GA20338@radhesyama
[OT] Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:41:08 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a long time in that it fails to boot the first time I try. The reason is that it can't find the WD600BB, 60 GB hard drive. A second try usually fixed the problem. It has an Intel D865PERL mother board, a P4 2.4 GHZ processor and 512 MB DDR 400 ram. I just upgraded the BIOS to the latest version. (...) A quick Google search points to a known problem for that board: http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en#hl=encomplete=0site=webhpq=Intel+D865PERL+hard+disk+bootoq=Intel+D865PERL+hard+disk+bootaq=faqi=aql=gs_l=serp.3...2893l5210l0l5434l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0.pfwc.bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osbfp=43704773c80105b2biw=1280bih=888 For example: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f15/intel-d865perl-wont-boot-sometimes-25259.html I would contact Intel tech support and ask them for a fix to this. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls8ge$f2u$7...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 09/04/12 00:18, � wrote: On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:47:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:58:24PM +, Camaleón wrote: A bottom posting style does not mean all the stuff goes to the bottom Yes it does! That is what bottom posting is. Actually it can mean two things. When some people use the term they mean interleaved - it's a debate that's been going for decades. We've argued but you're using interleaved posting and they've argued no - our responses are at the bottom of what we're responding to - and we've argued but bottom posting better describes all responses at the bottom and they've argued all our responses are at the bottom - of each thing we're replying to, and we've pointed out they're obsessed with bottoms, and so the argument continues without punctuation ;-p snipped *** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting In the bottom-posting style, the reply is appended to a full or partial copy of the original message. The name bottom-posting is sometimes used for inline-style replies, and indeed the two formats are the same when only one point is being replied to. *** Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions. correct? (...) Not at all when two of them (inline and bottom posting) share 99% of their features. Feel free to edit the Wikipedia article to match your own opinion ;-) Greetings, No need (pays to read the whole page):- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style as suggested here:- http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips This is a problem with wikipedia - which distguishes between bottom and interleaved, but doesn't show that, as Miles (?) has already pointed out - what was is sometimes called bottom posting can 'mean' interleaved posting. So - it's acceptable to put a your responses beneath the body of the original post *if* the point you're reply to is at the bottom of the post. Preferably anything not relevant to your point/s would be trimmed from the original post. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81a6cf.9080...@gmail.com
Re: skype?
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 16:20:49 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. There is no native 64-bits Skype packages for Linux and 2.2.0.35 is beta tagged which seems to be consitent with your problems. Google doesn't provide much enlightenment, has anyone got any tips, please? I would start by their Support page to run the usual video/sound tests: https://support.skype.com/en/ For the crashes, you can the usual: launching Spyke from command line to get some useful trace. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jls9a8$f2u$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: skype?
On 09/04/12 00:20, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Has anyone here managed to get skype working reliably under Squeeze? I have 2.2.0.35-1 for AMD64, but I'm encountering many problems; intermittent sound, no video, system crashes. Google doesn't provide much enlightenment, has anyone got any tips, please? Sure - works fine for me, video meetings, shared desktops, call recording, and usually have two client (different accounts) open at the same time. I use PulseAudio and Skype 2.2.0.25-1 Beta (didn't know there was a later version). Port 53305 is opened on the firewall but it shouldn't make much difference if you've closed it. SkypCallRecord, Skyessential, Skype4Py and Amarok extensions installed. Also the python-skype is installed. Never had a crash. I know a lot of people with the same experience - though we would love to find another multi-platform, easy to install voip program, preferably open source, to replace it. Anything in dmesg or syslog? In Skype Options, Advanced - tick Display technical information and then put the mouse over the callers avatar when in a call for jitter and other info. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81a9ca.40...@gmail.com
Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.
Good time of the day, Camaleón. Thank You for Your time and answer: (snipped) As I said, I think they're following different targets although the above is not always so, I mean, you can find a company using e-mail based alerts in a very similar way it does RSS and viceversa (you can get very, very long and detailed RSS feeds, holding images, audio, etc...). PK. You have convicted me w/ advantages of feeds over email. One thing that troubles my hearts - is it possible in the readers to remove items in a way that it never appears again on the list when the feeds are updated? I have tried w/ liferea - and it truly has more features than the claws-mail's plug-in - but to my sorrow it again re-lists the removed items so that I read through it again. Any idea? OR You simply discern it by read/unread tokens in font? Thank You ,again. Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81ab91.5051cd0a.3f65.5...@mx.google.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles (was: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN)
In linux.debian.user, Chris Bannister wrote: No, you are confused. There are three entirely different distinct styles: 1) Top posting 2) Bottom posting 3) Interleaved, inline, conversation. style. Therefore, it makes sense to have *THREE* different definitions. correct? There are only two styles, really: rational and lazy. Call them what you wish, subdivide them if you like, but in reality there is only *one* correct way to post. The term interleaved makes sense, but is redundant as it's been called bottom posting since the dawn of email and usenet -- and it's generally understood by the everyone who has a clue that doing it properly usually results in an interleaved conversation. It isn't exactly rocket science! :) -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408145913.GA20786@radhesyama
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On 09/04/12 00:32, PMA wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 23:54, PMA wrote: snipped I was caught up thinking how a personal signature -- choosing in a given instance to enter it or not -- can affect a message's import, separately from the issue of verification. Oh good - I couldn't get my head around it when applied to a digital signature used to show the post had not been modified since sending, and was sent by the person claiming to have sent it. I sense I'm willfully misunderstood, but in any case am dropping this issue. ... I have no wish to ignore the convention. My memory's failing some. I'll attune better to *which* posting convention (list) I find myself in. My bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling the it's not a rule let's vote on it line :-( That was *not* trolling. Which part of my bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling did you not understand? You're too quick to claim offence. The LilyPond list (a digital-music-scoring site) had been debating just this top/bottom posting-style issue, and had fielded exactly this suggestion -- a vote among the list members. Maybe on that site the list votes on how the list is run. Though it sounds like the tail wagging the dog... On Debian it's usually developers who vote - and the posting style on this and other debian lists has been debated for almost twenty years that I'm aware of. People are still free to post as they wish - but I don't remember the last time I saw a useful response from anyone who didn't have a preference for interleaved posting style (even if sometimes they refer to it as bottom posting, with a straight face) Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81ac01.6020...@gmail.com
Re: No sound from Gnash in Iceweasel or Epiphany or from VLC
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 14:19:15 -0400, Kevin Williams wrote: (please, turn off html, thanks...) The video works just fine in both applications, but it has no sound. However, I can play ogv videos with sound just fine from Gnome Sound Recorder and Totem Movie Player. My preferred sound device is a Plantronics .Audio 646 DSP usb headset. I have also tried plugging in a set of Apple ear buds to the traditional sound jacks. I do not get any sound from any source when attempting to play videos from VLC, Iceweasel, or Epiphany. (...) Your preferred sound device is the headset but is your system of the same opinion? :-) I think the source of the problem can be what output sound device is currently handling the system sound: the embedded sound card or your USB headset which is detected by the system as an additional (secondary) soundcard. There are some applications (e.g., Ekiga) that allow the user to select on-the-fly which device to use for getting sound (internal card outputing to the speakers, USB card outputing to the headset, HDMI outputing to an sound bar...) but not all apps allow it. Additional information on how to tweak the order of the devices (and thus setting your preferred card to be your system's preferred one) can be found here: http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlsa62$f2u$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:07:40PM +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Configuring Icedove to use PGP/MIME is just two clicks. If you read all messages, you know that I will move to PGP/MIME when anyone on this list explains to me how do I manually verify signature with PGP/MIME. Verifying INLINE signature = copy-paste the whole message to gpg. The mail client should do all that for you. Verifying PGP/MIME signature = ? ditto. I use the mutt email client and so don't know off hand but do any of these help: http://ask.metafilter.com/18209/How-do-I-use-Thunderbirds-inbuilt-encryption http://www.djigzo.com/documents/smime-setup-guide.pdf http://enigmail.mozdev.org/home/index.php.html Probably you should post to: http://www.mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/enigmail/ Archives: http://www.mozdev.org/pipermail/enigmail/ This is interesting: http://www.phildev.net/pgp/pgp_clear_vs_mime.html Alot of useful information using: Verifying PGP/MIME signature site:www.mozdev.org as the search term in google. -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408151225.GB32571@tal
Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu In my sources.list I have lines: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main # Bitlbee deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ # Scribus #deb http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ unstable main Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjgedz4l@gmail.com
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Hello Csanyi, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] In my sources.list I have lines: Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Is there something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/? Best regards, Claudius -- Let no guilty man escape. -- U. S. Grant Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net telnet://nightfall.org:4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
In linux.debian.user, Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com wrote: I don't have aptitude, never used it. Why would one need apt-get and aptitude together? As a debian user since 2003 I was so accustomed to using apt-get that I just stuck with it until squeeze, at which point curiosity compelled me to fool with aptitude. My conclusion? Aptitude is more complete and useful, so it's become my preferred package management tool now. :) Old dogs sometimes do learn new tricks I guess... :) -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408151529.GA21039@radhesyama
Re: [OT] Posting styles
Scott Ferguson wrote (remainder of your trolling ignored): as this will habituate people to expect your mail to be signed, Nope. Wishful thinking at best. True story: Last weekend, I sent a friend an email to get him come help me move a couch. For complex reasons I neglected to sign it. My friend noticed, and worried someone might be playing a prank on him. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Grub-install problems was Re: terminal prompts
On 08/04/12 08:51 AM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 08/04/12 05:49 AM, Paul Saunders wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:37:32 -0400 Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 04/07/2012 04:29 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: [cut] The distro runs fine but slow under KDE, but after I Installed Icewm, I notice when I load an exterm, the prompt I get is % not the usual one setup in .bashrc. [cut] Can someone explain what's going on ? What;s your shell? tcsh? I **thought** it was DASH (the apparent default in Squeeze) so I ran dpkg-reconfigure dash and picked Bash as the default. But maybe it wasn't ? How do I find out for sure ? dpkg-reconfiguring dash will only update which shell is used to provide the /bin/sh link. This may or may not be the shell that users get when they open a terminal. Ah..that explains that ! To see what shell you're currently using, try running chsh (as yourself). That will tell you what your current login shell is. To change it, enter the full path to the executable, or to keep it, just press enter. That worked...but I caused another problem. I still didn't like Mepis, so I booted into Debian Sid and forgetting Grub had been last installed by Mepis, formatted the partition. Well you know what happened. Next time I booted I ended up at the Grub rescue prompt! No problem I thought, I'll just load up my SystemRescue CD and fix it. No way! I mounted sda2, and tried to ChRoot into it. I couldn't...I kept getting an error message unable to run /bin/zsh To make a very long story short, I tried several other live cd's but none were of any help, until I got to the Ubuntu LXDE live install. I picked the rescue mode, told it to install grub on /dev/sda2 and it did. An update Grub fixed the cfg file and we're back in business. I still don't understand why SystemRescue could not allow me to chroot ?? The moral of the story: keep several live cd's on hand, and think BEFORE you decide to wipe out a distro on another partition. Linux forces me to keep on learning. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81b1ed.8050...@videotron.ca
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu [...] Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Probably not. You've installed Google Chrome, presumably, and the installer adds google-chrome.list in the sources.list.d directory. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJVvKsNxj4h4cwLzHi=aau-urjsoqfpz5fksykqkpugvxxd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: ATA/IDE hard drive problem
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 08/04/12 09:41, Gary Roach wrote: I have an older computer that is still completely serviceable that I am switching over to Linux from win2k. The system has had a glitch for a long time in that it fails to boot the first time I try. The reason is that it can't find the WD600BB, 60 GB hard drive. A second try usually fixed the problem. It has an Intel D865PERL mother board, a P4 2.4 GHZ processor and 512 MB DDR 400 ram. I just upgraded the BIOS to the latest version. If the BOIS ATA/IDE Configuration is set to Extended, the bios finds my CDROM drive but not the hard drive. If the configuration is set to Legacy the bios finds the hard drive but not my CDROM drive. Strange. What was the BIOS setting for the hard drive when you installed? The hard drive is on IDE -1 as master (or stand alone, makes no difference) and the CDROM is on IDE-2 as master. That makes sense, and it's how I would configure it. snipped I've run out of ideas. Anyone else have any? Yes - but lets see how your drive is setup first. Please post the output of:- # parted -l or if you don't have parted installed:- # fdisk -l Gary R Kind regards There seems to be some confusion here. I still have win2k on the machine. Linux commands won't work. I think what I am going to do is change the ATA/IDE Configuration to Enhanced, put the linux installation disk in the CDROM drive and hope that it boots. One of the respondents pointed out that Linux doesn't depend on the bios settings to find the boot drive. I hope that is true. I may end up with a boat anchor. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81b157.2050...@verizon.net
Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 22:15:21 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day, Camaleón. Thank You for Your time and answer: (snipped) As I said, I think they're following different targets although the above is not always so, I mean, you can find a company using e-mail based alerts in a very similar way it does RSS and viceversa (you can get very, very long and detailed RSS feeds, holding images, audio, etc...). PK. You have convicted me w/ advantages of feeds over email. Hope this has no bad drawbacks :-) One thing that troubles my hearts - is it possible in the readers to remove items in a way that it never appears again on the list when the feeds are updated? I have tried w/ liferea - and it truly has more features than the claws-mail's plug-in - but to my sorrow it again re-lists the removed items so that I read through it again. Any idea? OR You simply discern it by read/unread tokens in font? Mmmm, there's an option (for every feed source) you can configure to disable cache, not sure about what it does :-? But now you tell... I have no special configuration for the feeds (all use cache and are automatically managed by the app) but if I manually deleted one feed, quit from Liferea, start it again and I update that rss chanel, the feed I deleted is not coming back. I'm using and old Liferea (1.4.18) so this could have been changed in updated versions (or can be indeed seen as a bug :-P). What version are you running? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlscir$f2u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu In my sources.list I have lines: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main # Bitlbee deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ # Scribus #deb http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ unstable main Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjgedz4l@gmail.com Probably something you installed created an entry under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory. You can check there, and remove the entries if it bothers you. -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408154231.GA21489@radhesyama
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net writes: Hello Csanyi, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] In my sources.list I have lines: Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Is there something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/? Indeed, I find there a file: 'google-talkplugin.list'. -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mx6mdxhk@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles (now PGP)
[I've posted my reply on d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org] On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:46:11PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: (...) Interested parties ... please head to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. -- Napoleon Bonaparte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012040811.GD32571@tal
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu [...] Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Probably not. You've installed Google Chrome, presumably, and the installer adds google-chrome.list in the sources.list.d directory. Yes, I have installed Google Chrome browser. -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87iphadxga@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles
Scott Ferguson wrote: ... Which part of my bad - I'd mistaken you for someone trolling did you not understand? You're too quick to claim offence. I know this last is true. If caught in it I've offended you 'too', I'm sorry. The LilyPond list (a digital-music-scoring site) had been debating just this top/bottom posting-style issue, and had fielded exactly this suggestion -- a vote among the list members. Maybe on that site the list votes on how the list is run. Though it sounds like the tail wagging the dog... On Debian it's usually developers who vote As I recall, the suggestion was meant to improve the developers' sense of membership preference (to consider in making a developer decision). People are still free to post as they wish - but I don't remember the last time I saw a useful response from anyone who didn't have a preference for interleaved posting style (even if sometimes they refer to it as bottom posting, with a straight face) For the record, I've always preferred interleaved (relative bottom?) style. But, retired now after 16 years in a mandatory top-post work environment, I fight my reflex with every email (if I remember) to do differently. P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to fight, as they beckon, Now y'all just scribble right in here. Best regards, Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81b9b5.7050...@aya.yale.edu
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Hello Csanyi, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed, I find there a file: 'google-talkplugin.list'. APT also checks this directory. You will probably find dl.google.com listed in this file. If you don’t like that behaviour, remove the file :-) The functionality is meant to provide third-term vendors such as Google or Opera with a reliable way of integrating their packages into APT, allowing APT to update them like all others. Best regards, Claudius -- backups: always in season, never out of style. Please use GPG: ECB0C2C7 4A4C4046 446ADF86 C08112E5 D72CDBA4 http://chubig.net telnet://nightfall.org:4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:25:30 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote: on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu (...) Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Dude, you accepted their terms ;-) *** https://tools.google.com/chrome/eula.html?hl=en Note: Installing Google Chrome will add the Google repository so your system will automatically keep Google Chrome up to date. If you don't want Google's repository, do sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome before installing the package. *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlsdi6$f2u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Aptitude update - http://dl.google.com?
Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid system when I update with aptitude I see lines: Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease Get: 35 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B] Get: 36 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1347 B] Get: 37 http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages [765 B] Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-hu [...] Must I worry about of those lines: 'dl.google.com'? Probably not. You've installed Google Chrome, presumably, and the installer adds google-chrome.list in the sources.list.d directory. Neat! I wondered where that came from. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlsdio$jil$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Re: Free as in speech hardware ebook reader
On 04/07/2012 07:45 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:12:45 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: Having a bad track record of not taking care of dead tree books, I am looking to buy an electronic book reader. (...) I'm following very closely the ongoing movements of Kobo¹ and Vivaldi². While the former conforms a complete set of hardware/software/e-books the later is a tablet (no e-ink based display) that runs KDE Plasma SC, but both projects seem to share the same objective: let the user to decide. ¹http://www.kobo.com ²http://makeplaylive.com Thanks! I am more oriented towards the Kobo, since it is an ebook reader specifically. The promise of an open platform seems alluring. Do you know if it runs GNU/Linux or whether I'll be able to install it? Seems perfect, reasonably priced too, thanks. Sorry I didn't mark my post OT, I wasn't sure if it was, since it kind of involves Debian. Greetings, -- Best regards, Panayiotis Karabassis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81bb02.1060...@gmail.com
Re: OT: favorite free-software email-subscription / feeds.
On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 15:58:19 +, Camaleón wrote: I have tried w/ liferea - and it truly has more features than the claws-mail's plug-in - but to my sorrow it again re-lists the removed items so that I read through it again. Any idea? OR You simply discern it by read/unread tokens in font? Mmmm, there's an option (for every feed source) you can configure to disable cache, not sure about what it does :-? But now you tell... I have no special configuration for the feeds (all use cache and are automatically managed by the app) but if I manually deleted one feed, quit from Liferea, start it again and I update that rss chanel, the feed I deleted is not coming back. I'm using and old Liferea (1.4.18) so this could have been changed in updated versions (or can be indeed seen as a bug :-P). (...) Oops, that seems to be the case: Liferea downloads again and again deleted feed entries https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/659914 If that logic still applies, maybe you have to search a new home for your feeds :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlsduu$f2u$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles
On Sunday 08 April 2012 17:15:49 PMA wrote: P.S. I may as well add here, that it would help me -- in opening a Debian list email -- *not* to see blank lines at the top of the message (like the two at top here). They're what I have to fight, as they beckon, Now y'all just scribble right in here. That is your email client, not the list. I see no such blank lines. And anyway, I would have said that what says to most of us start to write here is the position of the cursor, and that is attributable to you and your email client. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204081726.21856.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Grub-install problems was Re: terminal prompts
In linux.debian.user, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: I mounted sda2, and tried to ChRoot into it. I couldn't...I kept getting an error message unable to run /bin/zsh Perhaps because it's /usr/bin/zsh? -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408160905.GA21891@radhesyama