date:20121212

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:58:48 +0100, Sergio Villalba escribió:

 ¿existe la posibilidad de montan un servidor linux con apache+mod proxy
 configurado para acceder a un pc que tenga instalado VNC http?
 
 lo único encontrado es esta url:
 http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-January/027396.html

Hum... pues así a bote pronto se me ocurre que podrías cambiar los 
puertos del servidor VNC o, como indican en el mensaje que mandas, 
utilizar el reenvío de puertos para redirigir la petición al servidor VNC.

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Re: [OT] Apache Proxy + VNC

2012-12-12 Thread Cristian Mitchell

El día 12 de diciembre de 2012 12:12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:58:48 +0100, Sergio Villalba escribió:

 ¿existe la posibilidad de montan un servidor linux con apache+mod proxy
 configurado para acceder a un pc que tenga instalado VNC http?

 lo único encontrado es esta url:
 http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-January/027396.html

 Hum... pues así a bote pronto se me ocurre que podrías cambiar los
 puertos del servidor VNC o, como indican en el mensaje que mandas,
 utilizar el reenvío de puertos para redirigir la petición al servidor VNC.

 Saludos,

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La respuesta es si
pero supongo que no es la pregunta total?

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Re: No aparece el selector remoto XDMCP

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:16:50 +0100, Javier Silva escribió:

 Una preguntonta... ¿te permite introducir manualmente el usuario
 remoto con el que quieres iniciar la sesión?


 Acabo de probarlo y al final de la lista aparece la opción Otro... tal y
 como en local, la seleccionas y le pones el nombre de otro usuario, su
 contraseña y listo.

Hum... bueno, al menos te permite iniciar sesión manualmente. 

Estoy pensando que quizá puedas configurar un listado de usuarios que 
quieres que aparezcan en la pantalla de inicio de sesión, digo, así al 
menos podrás añadir al usuario local para que aparezca siempre :-?

(p. ej., en la sección [greeter] hay una opción que es 
Include=usuario1,usuario2 donde en teoría puedes especificar una lista 
de usuarios que siempre deben mostrarse)

 La pantalla de login es idéntica a la que aparece en el server, con
 excepción del botón que sirve para apagar, reiniciar, que en remoto,
 sólo aparece la opción Disconnect.

Seguramente sea una funcionalidad que no la hayan implementado aún en 
gdm3 o que tenga algún problema y lo estén resolviendo... no sé, 
comparado con gdm2 me pareció que la nueva versión era muy básica, como 
si estuviera a mitad de desarrollo.

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Re: [OT] Re: Telnet dentro de telnet me mata el cursor

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:41:37 -0200, adriancito escribió:

 Camaleón va entre tus líneas:

(...)

 La cuestión es que cuando llego a dispositivo2 no me aparece el
 cursor.
 
 
 Demasiado misterio para poder sugerirte algo. A ver, ¿de qué
 dispositivos estamos hablando exactamente?
   
 El dispositivo1 es una antena wireless que permite la conexión por
 telnet (no dispone de ssh).

¿Marca y modelo?
 
 El dispositivo2 es un multitoma que permite apagar y encender
 dispositivos a través de la red (solo tiene telnet no tiene ssh).

¿Una regleta, dices? ¿Marca y modelo?

 Este es el gráfico:

 Debian - Dispositivo1 - Dispositivo2
 
 
 ¿No hay _nada_ entre los tres aparatos? ¿Y cómo están intercomunicados
 físicamente (mediante adaptadores de red, puerto serie, USB o algún
 conversor usb-serie de por medio...)?
   
 No, una vez que me conecto a la antena (osea dispositivo1), ésta, como
 el dispositivo2 estan conectados por un hub/switch sin nada en el medio.

Preguntonta: ¿qué te impide realizar un telnet desde Debian directamente 
a la regleta/multitoma? Si están todos conectados a un switch ethernet no 
veo porqué has de pasar por la antena :-?

 El tema es que llego a la consola de dispositivo2 pero no me aparece
 el cursor para poder ingresar.
 
 
 Aunque no veas el cursor, siempre pulsa [Enter ↵] a ver si obtienes
 respuesta.
   
 :) Lo hice, pero nada!

Vale, es que a veces con las conexiones serie el cursor no tiene 
actividad porque está esperando a que se introduzcan datos o porque se 
trata de un enlace lento...
 
 ¿A qué dispositivos tienes acceso físicamente? Aparte de Debian, claro
 :-)



 No entiendo esto?

A ver, si quieres conectarte a la regleta/multitoma ¿no puedes acceder 
desde Debian con un telnet directo? No entiendo el rodeo que das al 
pasar por la antena para llegar al dispositivo de destino, salvo que se 
encuentren separados físicamente y que la regleta/multitoma sólo tenga 
comunicación a través de la antena, claro.

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Re: [OT] Apache Proxy + VNC

2012-12-12 Thread Francisco Eduardo Ascencio Dominguez



El 12/12/2012, a las 09:17, Cristian Mitchell mitchell6...@gmail.com escribió:

 El día 12 de diciembre de 2012 12:12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:58:48 +0100, Sergio Villalba escribió:
 
 ¿existe la posibilidad de montan un servidor linux con apache+mod proxy
 configurado para acceder a un pc que tenga instalado VNC http?
 
 lo único encontrado es esta url:
 http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-January/027396.html
 
 Hum... pues así a bote pronto se me ocurre que podrías cambiar los
 puertos del servidor VNC o, como indican en el mensaje que mandas,
 utilizar el reenvío de puertos para redirigir la petición al servidor VNC.
 
 Saludos,
 
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 La respuesta es si
 pero supongo que no es la pregunta total?
 
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Te refieres a esto amigo ??
http://www.lypef-warez.com/index.php/es/foro/107-debian/260-proxy-server-apache2#260

Re: Proxy offline

2012-12-12 Thread Francisco Eduardo Ascencio Dominguez


El 11/12/2012, a las 09:14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:40:47 -0600, Francisco Eduardo Ascencio Dominguez
 escribió:
 
 (bufff, vaya formato de correo... debe ser cosa del webmail del 
 demonio :-/)
 
 pero puedo poner la reglas temporal ?
 
 Sí, pero:
 
 a) Tendrás que cargarlas cada vez que inicies el equipo o no podrás
 navegar.
 
 R= si pero para cargarlas al inicio primero debo saber cuales son las
 reglas correctas.
 
 Pues hombre, las que te pone en las instrucciones que estás siguiendo, no 
 tienes que inventar nada, salvo cambiar el rango de direcciones IP para 
 adecuarlo al de tu red.
 
 b) Comprueba que efectivamente están cargadas porque tu lista de reglas
 está vacía.
 
 estoy ingresando en la consola  como root. iptables -t nat -A
 POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.5/25 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to 192.168.1.3iptables
 -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth2 -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to
 192.168.1.3:3128iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80
 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128 
 
 (...)
 
 Estooo ¿pero toso eso seguido, al mogollón? :-? 
 
 Tienes que ejecutar:
 
 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.5/25 -o eth1 -j SNAT --to 
 192.168.1.3
 
 Pulsa [Enter] y comprueba que la regla se haya añadido. Si es así, sigue con 
 el resto.
 
 Y oye, verifica que ese rango de direcciones sea el correcto porque en
 el ejemplo que ponen en la web usan dos rangos distintos para cada tarjeta 
 de red (eth0 → 192.168.1.x y eth1 → 10.10.10.x).
 
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Ok al server se le daño el disipador del procesador.. ok solo lo cambio (1 día 
porfavor) y ago las pruebas que mes mencionaron. saludos 


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Re: [OT] Re: duda servidore home dlna y multimedia

El Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:54:26 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 compro el sharecenter ahorita
 en un futuro cuando quiera scalar armo una mini-ITX como (Servidor de
 servicios) con los archivos del sharecenter dado a que posee das tendria
 mas servicios funcionando.

(...)

Entonces dejamos de darte sugerencias para montar el mini servidor casero 
porque dentro de un año el mercado de componentes informáticos y de 
software estará irreconocible y todas las recomendaciones que te demos 
ahora habrán quedado obsoletas ;-)

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Pequeña duda sobre su

2012-12-12 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

Quisiera ver si alguien tiene un poquito de tiempo y me puede explicar la 
diferencia que existe entre los comandos:


su
y
su -

Ya di la opción: man su

Pero la verdad que mi ingles no me dio para entender ni J.

Gracias por su tiempo.
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Re: Pequeña duda sobre su

2012-12-12 Thread Marc Olive


On Wednesday 12 December 2012 19:44:07 Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote:
 Quisiera ver si alguien tiene un poquito de tiempo y me puede explicar la
 diferencia que existe entre los comandos:
 
 su
 y
 su -

su - establece las variables de entorno de la nueva identidad/usuario, con 
su se conservan las variables del primer usuario, entre otras.
Si te fijas, con su - cambia al home del nuevo usuario, con su no.


 
 Ya di la opción: man su
 
 Pero la verdad que mi ingles no me dio para entender ni J.
 
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hacer un dist-upgrade de squeeze a wheezy o formatear el equipo?

2012-12-12 Thread Carlos Carcamo

saludos lista.
Hace días he notado que mi pc se ha vuelto mas lenta creo que es debido a
todo lo que he instalado y desinstalado desde que instale squeeze, tengo ya
8 meses de tener instalado squeeze en mi pc, actualmente funciona muy bien
salvo que se torna un poco lenta cuando uso algunos programas, entonces ya
que estoy de vacaciones quiero probar con wheezy y el gnome 3 que se ve muy
bueno!
Tenia pensado formatear la pc, pero tengo algunos datos que quiero
conservar el la partición home, entonces me pregunto si es posible
formatear solo la partición raiz / sin afectar las otras particiones?
pues quiero instalar wheezy, también se me ocurrió hacer un dist-upgrade
pero me quizá esta ultima opción no haría muchos cambios a mi pc
y quedaría igual de lenta no se realmente.

Por esta razón me he tomado a bien preguntar a ustedes cual opción me
conviene mas.

S.ficherosSize  Used Avail Use% Montado en
/dev/sda3  63G  8.9G   51G  15% /
tmpfs 500M 0  500M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev  495M  240K  495M   1% /dev
tmpfs 500M  652K  499M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda2 951M   45M  859M   5% /boot
/dev/sda4 168G   51G  109G  32% /home

así tengo actualmente particionado el disco de mi pc.
Me pregunto si es posible solo formatear la partición / de ser asi quiero
instalar wheezy en ella, me seria de mucha ayuda un pequeño tutorial de
como hacerlo sin afectar las demás particiones.

entonces que consideran ustedes, formatear o dist-upgrade?

Saludos espero sus comentarios!!!

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Re: hacer un dist-upgrade de squeeze a wheezy o formatear el equipo?

2012-12-12 Thread daniel soto

2012/12/12 Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com

 saludos lista.
 Hace días he notado que mi pc se ha vuelto mas lenta creo que es debido a
 todo lo que he instalado y desinstalado desde que instale squeeze, tengo ya
 8 meses de tener instalado squeeze en mi pc, actualmente funciona muy bien
 salvo que se torna un poco lenta cuando uso algunos programas, entonces ya
 que estoy de vacaciones quiero probar con wheezy y el gnome 3 que se ve muy
 bueno!
 Tenia pensado formatear la pc, pero tengo algunos datos que quiero
 conservar el la partición home, entonces me pregunto si es posible
 formatear solo la partición raiz / sin afectar las otras particiones?
 pues quiero instalar wheezy, también se me ocurrió hacer un dist-upgrade
 pero me quizá esta ultima opción no haría muchos cambios a mi pc
 y quedaría igual de lenta no se realmente.

 Por esta razón me he tomado a bien preguntar a ustedes cual opción me
 conviene mas.

 S.ficherosSize  Used Avail Use% Montado en
 /dev/sda3  63G  8.9G   51G  15% /
 tmpfs 500M 0  500M   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev  495M  240K  495M   1% /dev
 tmpfs 500M  652K  499M   1% /dev/shm
 /dev/sda2 951M   45M  859M   5% /boot
 /dev/sda4 168G   51G  109G  32% /home

 así tengo actualmente particionado el disco de mi pc.
 Me pregunto si es posible solo formatear la partición / de ser asi
 quiero instalar wheezy en ella, me seria de mucha ayuda un pequeño tutorial
 de como hacerlo sin afectar las demás particiones.

 entonces que consideran ustedes, formatear o dist-upgrade?

 Saludos espero sus comentarios!!!

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Yo primero haría un dist-upgrade y evaluaría la situación y si no se
arregla entonces si el formato. En cuanto a lo de las particiones si, es
posible formatear solamente / ya que se encuentra en una partición
diferente a home

Re: hacer un dist-upgrade de squeeze a wheezy o formatear el equipo?

2012-12-12 Thread Orlando Nuñez

Saludos, yo te recomiendo formatear, y la particion /home donde estan tus
datos, antes de formatear eliminar todas las carpetas ocultas, claro esto
eliminara la configuracion de cada uno de tus progranas (extensiones de
firefox, configuracion de chromium, evolution, thunderbird Etc,
comfiguracion del entorno grafico), luego instalar y al momento de
configurar particiones solo formatear /
El 12/12/2012 18:02, Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com escribió:

 saludos lista.
 Hace días he notado que mi pc se ha vuelto mas lenta creo que es debido a
 todo lo que he instalado y desinstalado desde que instale squeeze, tengo ya
 8 meses de tener instalado squeeze en mi pc, actualmente funciona muy bien
 salvo que se torna un poco lenta cuando uso algunos programas, entonces ya
 que estoy de vacaciones quiero probar con wheezy y el gnome 3 que se ve muy
 bueno!
 Tenia pensado formatear la pc, pero tengo algunos datos que quiero
 conservar el la partición home, entonces me pregunto si es posible
 formatear solo la partición raiz / sin afectar las otras particiones?
 pues quiero instalar wheezy, también se me ocurrió hacer un dist-upgrade
 pero me quizá esta ultima opción no haría muchos cambios a mi pc
 y quedaría igual de lenta no se realmente.

 Por esta razón me he tomado a bien preguntar a ustedes cual opción me
 conviene mas.

 S.ficherosSize  Used Avail Use% Montado en
 /dev/sda3  63G  8.9G   51G  15% /
 tmpfs 500M 0  500M   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev  495M  240K  495M   1% /dev
 tmpfs 500M  652K  499M   1% /dev/shm
 /dev/sda2 951M   45M  859M   5% /boot
 /dev/sda4 168G   51G  109G  32% /home

 así tengo actualmente particionado el disco de mi pc.
 Me pregunto si es posible solo formatear la partición / de ser asi
 quiero instalar wheezy en ella, me seria de mucha ayuda un pequeño tutorial
 de como hacerlo sin afectar las demás particiones.

 entonces que consideran ustedes, formatear o dist-upgrade?

 Saludos espero sus comentarios!!!

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Re: hacer un dist-upgrade de squeeze a wheezy o formatear el equipo?

2012-12-12 Thread Santiago Vila


El 12/12/12 23:32, Carlos Carcamo escribió:

saludos lista.
Hace días he notado que mi pc se ha vuelto mas lenta creo que es debido
a todo lo que he instalado y desinstalado desde que instale squeeze,
tengo ya 8 meses de tener instalado squeeze en mi pc, actualmente
funciona muy bien salvo que se torna un poco lenta cuando uso algunos
programas, entonces ya que estoy de vacaciones quiero probar con wheezy
y el gnome 3 que se ve muy bueno!
Tenia pensado formatear la pc, pero tengo algunos datos que quiero
conservar el la partición home, entonces me pregunto si es posible
formatear solo la partición raiz / sin afectar las otras particiones?


Es perfectamente posible porque el instalador lo permite expresamente y 
solamente formatea lo que tú le digas que formatee (al menos en el modo 
experto).


Puedes hacerlo al menos de dos formas distintas, o bien selecciones 
/home durante la instalación y le dices esto:


Formatear la partición: no, mantener los datos actuales

o bien no haces nada con la partición y la pones en el /etc/fstab al 
terminar la instalación.


Pero no hace falta un tutorial para eso, simplemente comienza la 
instalación y presta atención a lo que vayas viendo. Se ve bien claro

lo que va a hacer y hay que ser bastante descuidado para que formatee
una partición sin querer.

Lo que me suena raro es lo primero que dices. Puede que a Windows le 
pase pero desde luego Debian no empieza a ir más despacio por instalar 
o desinstalar muchas cosas (así en general).


Yo probaría en cualquier caso a identificar la causa de la lentitud, no 
vaya a ser que actualices a wheezy para que vaya más rápido y luego 
resulte que siga igual de lento.



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Re: hacer un dist-upgrade de squeeze a wheezy o formatear el equipo?

2012-12-12 Thread Fabián Bonetti

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:32:02 -0600
Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com wrote:


Si quieres el debían algo rápido bueno ponele lxde.

Y no gnome.

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Re: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-12 Thread thiago

Ele usa 443. Já fiz o bloqueio no firewall, só que setando o proxy nas
configuracões do próprio Vidalia, ele funciona e não registra nada nos
logs do squid

On 12/11/2012 08:41 PM, Ricardo César wrote:
 Amigo, tenta descobrir qual porta ele utiliza para conectar na rede e
 bloqueia ela no firewall.
 Dependendo da porta que ele utilizar é bem fácil de resolver seu problema.

  
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 *Enviadas:* Terça-feira, 11 de Dezembro de 2012 15:22
 *Assunto:* Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

 Tenho uma rede com proxy setado no browser não autenticado e alguns
 usuários estão usando o TOR vidalia para navegar. Esse software é uma
 praga, se configurar o proxy no proprio TOR ele funciona mas não loga
 nada no proxy. Alguém já conseguiu bloquear-lo?


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Re: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-12 Thread Thiago Oliveira

Dica... leia a documentacao do TOR e ve como ele funciona... O link acima,
posso nao ter entedindo pois li rapidamente, bloqueia o acesso da rede tor
a servidores web... o que ele quer eh bloquear o acesso do usuario a rede
TOR, ou seja nao usa o iptables... Posso estar dando um tiro no pe, pois
uso o TOR para burlar o proxy da minha faculdade. Talvez entendendo como o
TOR navega anonimamente voce consiga bloquea-lo... Proxys nao funcionam e
bloqueios no iptables podem ser descobertos pois o TOR pode ser
reconfigurado para utilizar outra porta que esteja aberta e utiliza-la

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Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 09:19, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Utilizando a ideia do Bruno você pode bloquear diretamente no iptables.


 Atenciosamente,
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 Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 08:48, thiago silve...@intechne.com.brescreveu:

  Ele usa 443. Já fiz o bloqueio no firewall, só que setando o proxy nas
 configuracões do próprio Vidalia, ele funciona e não registra nada nos logs
 do squid


 On 12/11/2012 08:41 PM, Ricardo César wrote:

  Amigo, tenta descobrir qual porta ele utiliza para conectar na rede e
 bloqueia ela no firewall.
 Dependendo da porta que ele utilizar é bem fácil de resolver seu problema.


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Re: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-12 Thread Thiago Oliveira

Veja se o layer7 resolve seu problema

http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Incrementando-seu-Firewall-com-o-Layer-7-Filter/

Fiz uma rapida busca no google e achei algumas possibilidades... dificeis
pois teria que bloquear na mao...  mas o segredo eh bloquear pelo firewall
mesmo... este Layer7 facilita um pouico a vida.

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Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 13:54, Thiago Oliveira
troolive...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Dica... leia a documentacao do TOR e ve como ele funciona... O link acima,
 posso nao ter entedindo pois li rapidamente, bloqueia o acesso da rede tor
 a servidores web... o que ele quer eh bloquear o acesso do usuario a rede
 TOR, ou seja nao usa o iptables... Posso estar dando um tiro no pe, pois
 uso o TOR para burlar o proxy da minha faculdade. Talvez entendendo como o
 TOR navega anonimamente voce consiga bloquea-lo... Proxys nao funcionam e
 bloqueios no iptables podem ser descobertos pois o TOR pode ser
 reconfigurado para utilizar outra porta que esteja aberta e utiliza-la

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 Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 09:19, Gabriel Ricardo 
 gricard...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Utilizando a ideia do Bruno você pode bloquear diretamente no iptables.


 Atenciosamente,
 *Gabriel Ricardo*
 Consultor em Tecnologia
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 Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 08:48, thiago silve...@intechne.com.brescreveu:

  Ele usa 443. Já fiz o bloqueio no firewall, só que setando o proxy nas
 configuracões do próprio Vidalia, ele funciona e não registra nada nos logs
 do squid


 On 12/11/2012 08:41 PM, Ricardo César wrote:

  Amigo, tenta descobrir qual porta ele utiliza para conectar na rede e
 bloqueia ela no firewall.
 Dependendo da porta que ele utilizar é bem fácil de resolver seu
 problema.


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 Tenho uma rede com proxy setado no browser não autenticado e alguns
 usuários estão usando o TOR vidalia para navegar. Esse software é uma
 praga, se configurar o proxy no proprio TOR ele funciona mas não loga
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[OFFTOPIC] Valor da prestação de serviço de manutenção de servidores WEB

2012-12-12 Thread Welington Rodrigues Braga (Listas)

Pessoal, Atualmente qual é o valor que está sendo praticado para um
serviço free-lance de manutenção em servidor WEB? Há muitos anos não
faço este serviço e estou precisando dar uma estimativa para um
colega.

grato

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Instalar Java8 no Debian Wheezy

2012-12-12 Thread Robson Dantas


Olá pessoal...

Alguém sabe como instalar o Java 8 no Debian Wheezy?

Tentei dessa forma abaixo (no Ubuntu é tão simples e direto):

Entrar como root (su);
Entrar com os comandos:

echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise main 
 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


echo deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise 
main  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list


apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys EEA14886
apt-get update
apt-get install oracle-java8-installer

Até funciona, mas ao descomprimir dá erro Aí tem que desfazer 
(apt-get purge...)


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Como configurar os paineis?

2012-12-12 Thread Robson Dantas

Pessoal, estou com um problema. Eu estou usando o Debian Wheezy com o 
xfce 4.10


Tem o Painel de cima (ver imagem do meu desktop: 
http://imagebin.org/239062 )


Eu queria alinhar alguns itens (um deles é o relógio) para o lado 
direito da tela, já vi tudo que podia ser feito mas não encontro onde 
modifico isso, alguém poderia dar uma dica


O Painel padrão de baixo eu removi e criei outra para ficar com os 
botões das janelas abertas e com os espaços de trabalho (como visto na 
imagem acima). Já nessa eu quero que os espaços de trabalho fiquem 
alinhados à direita da tela.



Aguardo uma dica.


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Re: Bloquear TOR Vidalia no squid

2012-12-12 Thread Rodolfo

So uma ressalva, o TOR pode descobrir outras portas, mas nao pode navegar
HTTP por elas, ele nao pode navegar por uma porta FTP, ele nao pode navegar
por uma porta SSH, isso é regra de network, o TOR so serve como um caminho
alternativo, nada mais que isso. Bloqueia no iptables que resolve, basta
estudar a saida do aplicativo, to sem tempo pra ver isso, se nao ate lhe
ajudava estudando a documentação.


Abraços.

Em 12 de dezembro de 2012 11:54, Thiago Oliveira
troolive...@gmail.comescreveu:

 TOR pode ser reconfigurado para utilizar outra porta que esteja aberta e
 utiliza-la

[OT] Samba4

2012-12-12 Thread Cleber Ianes


Saudações.

Alguém tem alguma informação resumida sobre o samba4. A primeira 
impressão que tive é que ele foi preparado para gerenciar domínio para 
rWindows...
Será que é isso mesmo?? Eu esperava que ele trouxesse ao Linux algumas 
facilidades do rWindows...



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Re: Apt-get hangup (SOLVED)

Gary Roach wrote:
 The restore problem is a long story. Lets just say that what i've
 got is all I'm going to get.

Ouch.  Sorry to hear.  But good to hear that things have moved forward
for you.

 Things have changed since I started this thread. I found a really
 good missive at:
 
 http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Repairing_apt-get_database

Interesting.  I almost agree with some of that. :-)

 that got me through the problem. The only package that couldn't be
 fixed was openoffice.org-filter-binfilter. This package is not
 essential. I purged this one and now have a clean system.

And of course you can always re-install anything you want too.

It seems to me that you must have tried to backup restore the system
part of your system.  I am not opposing that in principal but in
practice I don't usually try to do it that way.  For next time let me
suggest an alternative way to recover.

Instead I try to make sure I backup all of the locally created data
(such as /home and /usr/local) and all of the local configuration
(such as /etc and /var/backups) and then when I restore I actually
install a new image from scratch.  Then onto the new image I restore
the data (/home) and then move to the more difficult part of restoring
the system installed components.  I will merge in the accounts from
the old /etc/passwd and group files and then re-install all of the
packages that were installed previously.  Record of those is kept in
/var/backups and I have written about how to get the list of
installed packages from there before.  Install the list.  Restore the
previous configuration from the old /etc.  Restart and eventually
reboot to the restored system.  It isn't trivial but it isn't too
difficult either.  It works.

 I do have a major problem with KDE desktop icons now but that needs
 further investigation an maybe a topic for another thread.

If it is a failed restore issue then what I would try to do is to
determine what package includes those icons, purge that package,
re-install that package.  Or perhaps hit it with a larger club by
purging all of kde, verifying that everything related has been
removed, and then re-installing all of kde.  If something didn't
restore correctly then giving that package a fresh install should make
it good again.

Good luck!

Bob


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Re: Several questions regarding compiled web server (/usr/local)

- - wrote:
 Thank you for your very good explanation! I could not find anything
 nearly as good as this in the internet!

But that message is now on the internet. :-)

 Another question came up while reading your message:
 Wouldn't it then be better to give ownership of '/usr/local/var/lib/cherokee'
 to 'www-data:staff', instead of 'root:www-data'? That way 'staff' would still
 have access to that folder, while 'www-data' would be possible to read
 and write in that directory?

I see you are now thinking about this in the right way.  There are
permissions associated with the user and permissions associated with
the group.  The web server process is one entity and you as a user are
another.  The web server can line up with the user permission and you
can line up with the group permission and both can have access.  Or
the reverse.  Either would be a valid combination.

Another alternative is that you could add yourself to the www-group
too and then in addition to staff for other files you could also
access the www-group directories through that group permission.
Either way.  At this late-for-me-time I can't decide if there is any
advantage one way or the other.  Probably your suggestion above.

 Another solution would be adding user 'www-data' to group 'staff', but
 I presume that Cherokee (or any other software) would be access to files the
 service should not care about?

That is not a good combination.  Think about compartmentalization of
risk.  If you have a network facing program such as a web server and
it is attacked by a hostile and cracked then ask how much damage can
that hostile person do?  They will have all of the permissions
available to the web process user and group.  Having group staff
access would allow a cracker to have access to most of /usr/local.
Not good.

Because of this it is desired to limit the permissions of the web
server process as much as possible.  That is why the web server
process runs as the www-data:www-data user and group.  It keeps it
from having any permission except for those files and directories for
which it was specifically granted access and no others.

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Re: Corrupted desktop

2012-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Mi, 12 dec 12, 09:19:10, Steve Handley wrote:
 
 1. Created a VM, using debian-wheezy-DI-b4-amd64-CD-1.iso on Win7 host
 running Virtualbox.

Did you install guest-additions in the virtual machine?

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Re: Re: Corrupted desktop

2012-12-12 Thread Steve Handley

When installing from the iso, the installer asks if you want to
install virtualbox-ose-guest additions from wheezy's repositories; I
said yes to this. That way, you get the full gnome 3 shell desktop.

The effect of desktop corrupting only occurs when gnome (full gnome
3 shell) is selected as desktop. If gnome classic is selected at
login, all is OK, no corruption occurs.


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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Davies

P. J. McDermott p...@nac.net wrote:
 I'd like to set up virtualization on a home server

So now you have recommendations both ways :-)
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Re: Xen vs. KVM on Debian squeeze

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Davies

Peter Viskup skupko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Consider LXC [2] in case you have some concerns of CPU/memory overhead 
 and you plan to run only Linux virtual servers.

LXC looks really nice but you need very up-to-date packages, and possibly
may even need to consider compiling from source.

Issues I've hit so far (none of which is insurmountable):
- New kernel to support the memory cgroup option
- New libvirt/VMM to support LXC nicely
- Templating new hosts is fiddly
- Documentation is inconsistent and patchy at best

I know I could probably help with at least one of these, so I'm not
complaining. However, I don't (yet) have a bleeding-edge installation
with which to try out the new components.

Cheers,
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Re: NFS automount not happening

2012-12-12 Thread Chris Davies

Wolfgang Karall lists+debian-u...@karall-edv.at wrote:
 On 12/11/2012 11:08 AM, Chris Davies wrote:
 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
 The dhcpd will ping the address after the lease has expired and before
 assigning it again and will notice that it is still in use and will
 avoid assigning that address to another client.
 
 ICMP ping? Are you sure?

 I suppose Bob was referring to the ping-check as per the ISC dhcpd, see
 http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=dhcpd.conf

Ah, ok.

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How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

Hello, and a giant thank you to everyone working on the Debian system!
Seriously, Wikipedia shows Debian estimated to be worth about US$ 8 billion! :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian

-++-
-++ My conversation level.
I am fairly competent, with many things Linux-related.  I started with Slackware
way back in the early to mid 90's and worked my way through may different
distributions, custom kernel compiles, and custom program compiles.  My
Google-Fu is strong. :)

-++-
-++ How stuff broke, background. (probably skippable)
I have been using Squeeze since shortly after it was released.  Occasionally, I
have pulled in a newer .deb from testing.  With fewer updates coming in
recently (stability, yay!), and me feeling the need to get more newer .debs for
various projects, I have been pondering moving to testing.  I recently acquired
a Wacom Bamboo CTH-460, which requires kernel drivers newer than those available
in Squeeze.  After considering a custom kernel compile, I decided to try to just
pull in a newer kernel from testing or unstable.  I could not find an official
2.6.38 or 2.6.39 kernel, so finally decided to go with 3.2.0.4 from backports.
The nvidia driver would not compile against it (stupidly whining that it
required at least a 2.6 kernel!).

-++-
-++ How stuff actually broke.
After so much time wasted researching and feeling out different options, I
decided that it was finally time for me to switch to Wheezy (actually, testing).
I did aptitude update, aptitude upgrade, then converted my /etc/apt/sources.list
to use 'stable' instead of 'squeeze.'  Again aptitude update, aptitude upgrade.
I was clean.  I moved /etc/apt/preferences to preferences.bak.  Again, aptitude
update, aptitude upgrade shows clean.  I installed apt-listbugs SPECIFICALLY in
preparation for a cautious dist-upgrade.  I converted my /etc/apt/sources.list
to use 'testing' instead of 'stable,' and did aptitude update,
aptitude dist-upgrade.  (The following long lines are because I maximize my
terminal window to minimize scroll lines.  I have kept the entire text log, in
case it becomes useful.)

root@kiwi:/var/cache/apt$ aptitude dist-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  accountsservice{a} acl{a} aisleriot{a} akonadi-backend-mysql{a} ant{a} 
ant-optional{a} aptitude-common{a} argyll{a} at-spi2-core{a} autopoint{a} 
browser-plugin-gnash{a} browser-plugin-vlc caribou{a} caribou-antler{a} 
chktex{a} chromium{a} chromium-inspector{a} chromium-l10n{a} 
[SNIP 71 lines]
  valgrind-dbg{a} vinagre{a} wavpack{a} wine-bin{a} wireless-regdb{a} 
xbrlapi{a} xfce4-notifyd{a} xfce4-volumed{a} xorg-sgml-doctools{a} 
xserver-xorg-video-dummy{a} xul-ext-adblock-plus{a} xulrunner-10.0{a} 
yelp-xsl{a} zeitgeist-core{a} zenity-common{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  alsa-oss{u} anthy-common{u} aptdaemon{u} aumix{u} aumix-common{u} bzrtools{u} 
capplets-data{u} chromium-browser-inspector{u} cl-asdf{u} 
common-lisp-controller{u} console-terminus{u} cpp-4.4-doc{u} deskbar-applet{u} 
dmz-cursor-theme{u} docbook-xsl-doc-html{u} ekiga{u} 
[SNIP 27 lines]
  texpower-manual{u} totem-coherence{u} totem-mozilla{u} ttf-lyx{u} 
ttf-malayalam-fonts{u} ttf-takao-gothic{u} ttf-takao-mincho{u} 
unattended-upgrades{u} update-manager-core{u} update-manager-gnome{u} 
update-notifier{u} x-ttcidfont-conf{u} xserver-xorg-video-nv{u} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  3dchess ack-grep acpi acpi-support-base acpid adduser akonadi-server 
akregator alacarte alien alsa-base alsa-utils amor anacron analog anjuta 
anjuta-common antlr apache2 apache2-doc apache2-mpm-prefork 
apache2-threaded-dev apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common 
[SNIP 153 lines]
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng 
xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware xserver-xorg-video-voodoo 
xsltproc xterm xtrans-dev xvfb xz-utils yelp zangband zangband-data zaz 
zaz-data zenity zip zlib1g zlib1g-dev zoo zsnes 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  aptitude-doc-cs aptitude-doc-en aptitude-doc-es aptitude-doc-fi 
aptitude-doc-fr aptitude-doc-it aptitude-doc-ja gnupg-curl libatm1 python-pip 
uuid-runtime 
2821 packages upgraded, 1048 newly installed, 424 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,742 MB of archives. After unpacking 2,330 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libmetacity-private0a: Breaks: libmetacity-private0 but 1:2.30.1-3 is 
installed.
  libstdc++6: Breaks: gcc-4.3 ( 4.3.6-1) but 4.3.5-4 is installed.
  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-lame but 0.10.17-0.0 is 
installed.
  gcc-4.7-base: Breaks: gcj-4.4-base ( 4.4.6-9~) but 4.4.5-2 is installed.
  mysql-query-browser: Depends: libgtkhtml3.14-19 ( 3.31) but 3.32.2-2.1 is to 
be installed.
  libgfortran3: Breaks: gcc-4.3 ( 4.3.6-1) but 4.3.5-4 is installed.
  esound: Depends: esound-common (=

Re: LVM devices and symlinks

2012-12-12 Thread Roger Leigh

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 09:29:23PM -0500, Neil T. Dantam wrote:
 At Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:15:54 +,
 Chris Davies wrote:
  
  Reboot the box after installing LVM.
 
 Ah, a reboot has lvcreate working properly, thank you.

This is good to know.  However, this should all be triggered
when the package is initially installed.  Please could you
file a serious bug against the lvm package so that this can
be fixed.


Thanks,
Roger

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Re: How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

2012-12-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU

On Mi, 12 dec 12, 12:05:41, nv wrote:
 
 The nvidia driver would not compile against it (stupidly whining that it
 required at least a 2.6 kernel!).

Just as a side note, nvidia-glx from backports works fine with the 
kernel in backports ;)
 
 I suspect that I might be able to simply clear some flag to cleanly abort the
 dist-upgrade, (which would, hopefully, clear out the conflicts) but do not 
 know
 where to look.  But, I am open to any ideas.  Hopefully, the power doesn't go
 out, because I am not confident of a successful boot at this point. :
 Although, again, it seems that NOTHING was actually installed yet.  It is this
 apparent fact which gives me great hope.

apt/itude and dpkg should be able to handle interrupted dist-upgrade. 
However, for such a complex install as yours (didn't read very careful, 
but I think I spotted Gnome, KDE and e17 at least), I would suggest you 
do it gradually. Start with apt/itude (which should also pull a newer 
dpkg) and go from there. Here are some commands that might help

aptitude keep-all
dpkg --configure -a

Hope this helps,
Andrei
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Re: Problem With exim4 smtp authenication

2012-12-12 Thread Howard Eisenberger

On 2012-12-03, Thomas H. George wrote:

 I have edited passwd and entered server:user:password exactly as 
 described in exim4_passwd_client and run dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.  
 When I try to send mail using exim4 and then tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog 
 I find authenication has failed.  I have double checked every entry.  
 They are all correct and work with both iceape and the android mail 
 client on my HP Touchpad.

 Any one have a clue why this doesn't work?

I don't use it otherwise, but this just worked for me:

in /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
dc_smarthost='smtp.gmail.com::587'

in /etc/exim4/passwd.client
*.google.com:myusern...@gmail.com:mypassword
(any other entries commented out)

in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.localmacros
REMOTE_SMTP_RETURN_PATH=myusern...@gmail.com
REMOTE_SMTP_HELO_DATA=(You may not need this. I use my dyndns)

Regards,

Howard E.


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Re: Apt-get hangup (SOLVED)

2012-12-12 Thread Gary Roach


On 12/12/2012 01:10 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Gary Roach wrote:
   

The restore problem is a long story. Lets just say that what i've
got is all I'm going to get.
 

Ouch.  Sorry to hear.  But good to hear that things have moved forward
for you.

   

Things have changed since I started this thread. I found a really
good missive at:

 http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Repairing_apt-get_database
 

Interesting.  I almost agree with some of that. :-)

   

that got me through the problem. The only package that couldn't be
fixed was openoffice.org-filter-binfilter. This package is not
essential. I purged this one and now have a clean system.
 

And of course you can always re-install anything you want too.

It seems to me that you must have tried to backup restore the system
part of your system.  I am not opposing that in principal but in
practice I don't usually try to do it that way.  For next time let me
suggest an alternative way to recover.

Instead I try to make sure I backup all of the locally created data
(such as /home and /usr/local) and all of the local configuration
(such as /etc and /var/backups) and then when I restore I actually
install a new image from scratch.  Then onto the new image I restore
the data (/home) and then move to the more difficult part of restoring
the system installed components.  I will merge in the accounts from
the old /etc/passwd and group files and then re-install all of the
packages that were installed previously.  Record of those is kept in
/var/backups and I have written about how to get the list of
installed packages from there before.  Install the list.  Restore the
previous configuration from the old /etc.  Restart and eventually
reboot to the restored system.  It isn't trivial but it isn't too
difficult either.  It works.

   

I do have a major problem with KDE desktop icons now but that needs
further investigation an maybe a topic for another thread.
 

If it is a failed restore issue then what I would try to do is to
determine what package includes those icons, purge that package,
re-install that package.  Or perhaps hit it with a larger club by
purging all of kde, verifying that everything related has been
removed, and then re-installing all of kde.  If something didn't
restore correctly then giving that package a fresh install should make
it good again.

Good luck!

Bob
   

Thanks Bob

You just answered my next question. I'm going to give your suggestions a 
lot of thought as soon as I get the last of the bugs out. I did try 
removal  and re installation and it didn't help. I'm not sure that I did 
a good job of stripping out all of the old data though. I' m going to 
try again. Backuppc is a bit picky about sym-links. I think that this is 
at the route of most of my problems. Rsync needs to have a -D switch set 
before it will transmit them properly. Of course I didn't find this out 
until after I got in trouble.


Gary R.


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Re: How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:49:53 +0200
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mi, 12 dec 12, 12:05:41, nv wrote:
  
  The nvidia driver would not compile against it (stupidly whining
  that it required at least a 2.6 kernel!).
 
 Just as a side note, nvidia-glx from backports works fine with the 
 kernel in backports ;)
  
That is good to know.  I think I looked at some nvidia stuff in backports,
but along the way I decided to just go all the way to Testing.

  I suspect that I might be able to simply clear some flag to cleanly
  abort the dist-upgrade, (which would, hopefully, clear out the
  conflicts) but do not know where to look.  But, I am open to any
  ideas.  Hopefully, the power doesn't go out, because I am not
  confident of a successful boot at this point. : Although, again,
  it seems that NOTHING was actually installed yet.  It is this
  apparent fact which gives me great hope.
 
 apt/itude and dpkg should be able to handle interrupted dist-upgrade. 
 However, for such a complex install as yours (didn't read very
 careful, but I think I spotted Gnome, KDE and e17 at least), I would
 suggest you do it gradually. Start with apt/itude (which should also
 pull a newer dpkg) and go from there. Here are some commands that
 might help
 
Are you suggesting that I use apt-pinning to bring Gnome, for example, from
testing to stable, then other systems, and then eventually dist-upgrade from
stable to testing?
If I understand the basic idea here, correctly, I think I like it. :)  I will
keep it in mind as the likely eventual solution.  In the meantime, for my own
feeling that the system is OK, I would like to find a way to safely and
cleanly abort the dist-upgrade as the first step.  Or, perhaps, I already have?
By leaving sources.list with stable rather than testing, is that, perhaps, all
I needed to do to safely and cleanly abort the dist-upgrade?
 aptitude keep-all
 dpkg --configure -a
It certainly looks like that may be the case, after seeing the non-behavior of
running these commands, now.  (side note:  This page seems to show that it is
possible, if messy, to downgrade:  
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/downgrade.html)

root@kiwi:/etc/apt$ apt-show-versions | grep /testing
linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae/testing uptodate 3.2.32-1
nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-4-686-pae/testing uptodate 304.48+2+2+3.2.30-1
nvidia-kernel-686-pae/testing uptodate 304.48+2
nvidia-kernel-common/testing uptodate 20120630+3
tzdata/testing *manually* upgradeable from 2012g-0squeeze1 to 2012j-1
tzdata-java/testing *manually* upgradeable from 2012g-0squeeze1 to 2012j-1
winetricks/testing uptodate 0.0+20121030+svn918-1

That looks pretty good, I guess.  I'll go ahead and try restarting in a bit.
(Still using the 2.6.32-5 kernel.)
 
 Hope this helps,
 Andrei

tl;dr:  Is it recommended that I use apt-pinning to upgrade some packages to
testing, so that conflicts will be minimized to the point where I can easily
do dist-upgrade without issue?  If that is so, I can make it simpler by
uninstalling some package groups. :)


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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-12 Thread Mark Panen

Thanks guys, non of my suppliers can get hold of LGA1156 mobo's anymore in
this part of the world. So looks like i am in for a new mobo, CPU and
aftercooler :-)


On 11 December 2012 22:02, Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:

 On 12/11/2012 09:10 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Gary 
 Roachgary719_list1@verizon.**netgary719_li...@verizon.net
  wrote:



 The first thing I would do is run a post check on the motherboard. If you
 are lucky your board has a built in post card


 Uh, what? I would not call that luck, I would call that I paid big
 money for real server-class equipment. I have never seen a post board
 come with consumer-class equipment.Maybe nowadays the really high-end
 enthusiast space has such things?

 Anyway, why do you need one? If the POST is coming up with anything it
 will beep a post code. Sure, it is more annoying to decipher than
 looking at a display, but you don't have to buy anything... And anyway
 it sounds like this MB never gets to post.


 Cheers,
 Kelly Clowers




 Well my board is an Intel DP55KG that I paid about $180 for. Not cheap but
 not that expensive. There is a big difference between beep codes and
  numeric readouts. The numerics can give very detailed information as to
 the source of the problem. I will be willing to bet that the board got
 through some of the post steps even though nothing noticeable happened. Of
 course all of this is somewhat academic if his board doesn't have a built
 in post card. It's cheaper to just buy another motherboard.

 Gary R.



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404 errors with Squeeze security

2012-12-12 Thread Lisi Reisz

For about the last half hour, I have been getting the following errors when 
trying first to install, then to repair, amarok-trinity:

Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main mysql-common all 
5.1.63-0+squeeze1
  404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main libmysqlclient16 amd64 
5.1.63-0+squeeze1
  404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
E: Failed to fetch 
http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mysql-5.1/mysql-common_5.1.63-0+squeeze1_all.deb:
 
404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]

Suggestions?  Explanations?  Remedies?

Or does it just need time?  I.e. patience?  The site itself is not down.

Lisi


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Re: 404 errors with Squeeze security

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:43:38 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 For about the last half hour, I have been getting the following
 errors when trying first to install, then to repair, amarok-trinity:
 
 Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main mysql-common all 
 5.1.63-0+squeeze1
   404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
 Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main libmysqlclient16
 amd64 5.1.63-0+squeeze1
   404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
 E: Failed to fetch 
 http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mysql-5.1/mysql-common_5.1.63-0+squeeze1_all.deb:
  
 404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
 
 Suggestions?  Explanations?  Remedies?
 
 Or does it just need time?  I.e. patience?  The site itself is not
 down.
 
 Lisi
 
 

Don't have an answer for you, but aptitude update just now succeeded for me
without error.
$ ping security.debian.org
PING security.debian.org (149.20.20.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from schein.debian.org (149.20.20.6): icmp_req=1 ttl=47 time=78.6 ms


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Re: 404 errors with Squeeze security

2012-12-12 Thread Wayne Topa


On 12/12/2012 04:43 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

For about the last half hour, I have been getting the following errors when
trying first to install, then to repair, amarok-trinity:

Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main mysql-common all
5.1.63-0+squeeze1
   404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main libmysqlclient16 amd64
5.1.63-0+squeeze1
   404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]
E: Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/m/mysql-5.1/mysql-common_5.1.63-0+squeeze1_all.deb:
404  Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]

Suggestions?  Explanations?  Remedies?

Or does it just need time?  I.e. patience?  The site itself is not down.

Lisi


 if your sources.list entry for squeeze/updates is like the above that 
MAY be your problem.


Mine looks like  http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main 
contrib non-free   note the lack of /   ^


And it works here.  the mysql-common version is 5.1.66.0+squeeze1

HTH

Wayne


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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 17:25 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
 Mark writes:
  Any ideas guys?
 
 You may find that pressing down or prying up on that part of the board
 works as well as does the dryer.  Inspect the suspicious area of the
 MOBO carefully with a magnifying glass and then fix the crack or bad
 solder joint.

+1

Use a chopstick to press.

The OP should be experienced with soldering multi-layer boards.
Surface-mounted device aren't an issue, but solder joints might be
plated-through by vias
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Via_Types.svg/220px-Via_Types.svg.png
 . Without experiences the vias can lose their connections.

Hth,
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Re: How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

nv wrote:
After so much time wasted researching and feeling out different options, I
decided that it was finally time for me to switch to Wheezy (actually,
testing).

Fine.

I did aptitude update, aptitude upgrade, then converted my
/etc/apt/sources.list
to use 'stable' instead of 'squeeze.' Again aptitude update, aptitude
upgrade.
I was clean.

At this moment Squeeze is still Stable and so there is no difference
between the two steps that you did above. No difference.

I moved /etc/apt/preferences to preferences.bak. Again, aptitude
update, aptitude upgrade shows clean. I installed apt-listbugs SPECIFICALLY
in
preparation for a cautious dist-upgrade. I converted my /etc/apt/sources.list
to use 'testing' instead of 'stable,' and did aptitude update,
aptitude dist-upgrade.

This is where you went wrong. You did not read the upgrade notes:

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes

Specifically you did not follow this step:

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade

At this point you needed to do an 'upgrade' *before* doing a
'dist-upgrade'. That was the critical problem. The upgrade will
prevent packages from being removed and will upgrade dpkg and apt
before going further. Then you will have the new apt/dpkg for the
subsequent dist-upgrade.

But read the upgrade doc for other details.

When reading about all the people who hit this bug, everyone stated that the
solution is to uninstall apt-listbugs or patch it before dist-upgrade. But, I
found no one who described how to recover from the hit.

I suspect that I might be able to simply clear some flag to cleanly abort the
dist-upgrade, (which would, hopefully, clear out the conflicts) but do not
know
where to look. But, I am open to any ideas. Hopefully, the power doesn't go
out, because I am not confident of a successful boot at this point. :
Although, again, it seems that NOTHING was actually installed yet. It is this
apparent fact which gives me great hope.

I am not sure the best way to recover. No time to read about your
problem further.

Bob

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Re: How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:31:04 -0700
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

nv wrote:
After so much time wasted researching and feeling out different
options, I decided that it was finally time for me to switch to
Wheezy (actually, testing).

Fine.

Thank you, your response has helped tremendously! :) Now, I really
look forward to continuing my dist-upgrade shortly.

I did aptitude update, aptitude upgrade, then converted
my /etc/apt/sources.list to use 'stable' instead of 'squeeze.'
Again aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. I was clean.

At this moment Squeeze is still Stable and so there is no difference
between the two steps that you did above. No difference.

There is actually a real difference, in how updates are handled, in
that 'squeeze' would keep me on the Squeeze release even when Wheezy
becomes 'stable,' whereas 'stable' would update me to Wheezy when it
becomes 'stable.' I did the update/upgrade for 'squeeze,' then for
'stable,' with the expectation of no immediate difference, which is
what I presume you are telling me now. Good catch of my ambiguity that
might have tripped up someone else reading this. :)

Actually, there was some inconsequential package upgrade that showed up
when I changed the sources.list from 'squeeze' to 'stable,' but I don't
know if it just happened to become available at that moment. For some
fuzzy reason, I thought I remembered that updates were made available
at the same time each day, but that could have been just the cron
schedule for checking.

I moved /etc/apt/preferences to preferences.bak. Again, aptitude
update, aptitude upgrade shows clean. I installed apt-listbugs
SPECIFICALLY in preparation for a cautious dist-upgrade. I
converted my /etc/apt/sources.list to use 'testing' instead of
'stable,' and did aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade.

This is where you went wrong. You did not read the upgrade notes:

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes

Specifically you did not follow this step:

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade

But read the upgrade doc for other details.

Yes, you are correct. I misunderstood the timing for doing 'aptitude
upgrade' as specified in that step. I presumed I HAD done that step,
but now that you bring it to my attention in this way, I see that I
should do that AFTER changing my sources.list, but BEFORE doing
dist-upgrade. This is also why my dist-upgrade experience has always
included the undesirable effect of removing lots of wanted packages. I
am very happy to have this clarified! :)

When reading about all the people who hit this bug, everyone stated
that the solution is to uninstall apt-listbugs or patch it before
dist-upgrade. But, I found no one who described how to recover
from the hit.

I suspect that I might be able to simply clear some flag to cleanly
abort the dist-upgrade, (which would, hopefully, clear out the
conflicts) but do not know where to look. But, I am open to any
ideas. Hopefully, the power doesn't go out, because I am not
confident of a successful boot at this point. : Although, again,
it seems that NOTHING was actually installed yet. It is this
apparent fact which gives me great hope.

I am not sure the best way to recover. No time to read about your
problem further.

All of my poking and prodding, so far, indicates that changing my
sources.list back to 'stable' has safely and cleanly aborted the
dist-upgrade. Thank you for your advice. :)

Bob

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node.js npm and buster

2012-12-12 Thread Alan Chandler

I am trying to setup buster.js to run under node.js in Debian Sid.  The 
buster.js video shows a guy on a mac do it in a few seconds.


What I so far have discovered with Debian is

1) Node.js is not run as node (which the buster.js package assumes). 
Instead it runs as nodejs


2) npm install -g installs the package in /usr/local/lib/node_modules 
rather than in /usr/lib/node_modules. There is a comment in the 
README.Debian of npm which cryptically mentions using npm link in the 
package directory, but I tried that and managed to apparently delete the 
package from /usr/local/lib/node_modules


Can someone give me some definitive instructions of getting buster.js to 
run in Debian


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Re: Apt-get hangup (SOLVED)

Gary Roach wrote:

 You just answered my next question. I'm going to give your
 suggestions a lot of thought as soon as I get the last of the bugs
 out. I did try removal and re installation and it didn't help. I'm
 not sure that I did a good job of stripping out all of the old data
 though. I' m going to try again.

I am just going to mention that I like 'dlocate' as a very much faster
way to get 'dpkg -S' information.  It is indexed.  I haven't looked at
KDE in particular but there are often icons under /usr/share such as
under /usr/share/icons and I could envision symlinks too.  You may
need to track those down.  You will usually find these types of things
in the underlying something-base or something-icons or other dependent
packages.  It probably isn't the first package at the top of the
tree.  It is probably in one of the underlying packages down at the
bottom.  Figuring out what package is down at the bottom that you need
can be tedious.  And of course trying to purge it will want to unlayer
everything else depending upon it.

At times I have used dpkg with a --force-depends to remove and purge a
package and then install it again immediately afterward.

Rather than say much of this again here let me reference a previous
posting where I described some techniques to use /var/backups to list
what was installed and what is installed and to compare the two.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/09/msg00437.html

Hopefully it will be useful information.

 Backuppc is a bit picky about sym-links. I think that this is at the
 route of most of my problems.

I do like BackupPC quite a bit though.

 Rsync needs to have a -D switch set before it will transmit them
 properly. Of course I didn't find this out until after I got in
 trouble.

An rsync -D option?  I am unfamiliar with it.  Please say more.  I
will hopefully learn something.

Bob


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Re: NFS automount not happening [solution confirmed]

2012-12-12 Thread Roger Leigh

On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 02:43:36PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Ross Boylan wrote:
  Bob Proulx wrote:
   This nfs startup part is a part that seems to have suffered from the
   transition from boot time scripts to event driven scripts.  This kind
   of thing use to work in the previous init script way.  I don't know
   the best design to make this work in the general case for the new
   event driven way.  But at least in my testing it was sufficient to add
   this mount line to /etc/rc.local in order to mount additional nfs
   mount points at boot time.
 
  Do you think this is something that merits a bug/wish report?  Against
  what package?
 
 That is the problem.  There isn't really a package associated with nfs
 diskless clients.  It isn't a thing as a configuration.  And so I
 don't know if there is a single canonical owner for it.  It would need
 some discussion to determine the best place for this.  Perhaps others
 will have more insight into this topic.

This is an area which could use quite a bit of work.  Unfortunately,
as you point out there isn't a single place to fix things--it
touches a whole host of packages, from the initramfs to the
initscripts, to udev and networking.

Some things which need addressing:
- use of tmpfses for non-writable locations like /media: we should
  be doing this by default; introducing /run/media on the /run
  tmpfs was one thing looked at for wheezy; but it didn't get done
  for reasons I can't recall offhand.  Something to revisit for
  jessie.  This not just specific to nfsroot, r/o root also needs it.

- ASYNCMOUNTNFS in /etc/default/rcS (see rcS(5)).  The fact this
  option exists indicates a problem.  The basic NFS mounting at
  boot should Just Work in all situations, without gross hacks
  like this.

- There are currently two places where NFS filesystem mounting
  can be triggered: /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs (triggered by
  ipup/udev) and /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh.  There should ideally
  be just a single script, which should cater for all cases; the
  other script can just run the other.

- NetworkManager from what I've observed from other bugs reports
  is hopelessly broken with NFS mounting at boot.

While I've looked at this peripherally as an initscripts maintainer,
and sponsor for ifupdown, I don't personally have the NFS expertise
to fully understand all of the disparate and incompatible use cases
to be able to engineer a proper solution.  We've fixed a few specific
individual issues, but not really tackled the big problem.

Help understanding what the problems are and how best to address them
would be very much appreciated if anyone wishes to help here.  We
really need someone intimately familiar with NFS, and how the boot
scripts work, or who could take the time to become familiar with them.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: [OT] Good quality hair dryer needed for Squeeze

2012-12-12 Thread Mark Panen

The OP should be experienced with soldering multi-layer boards really why
should he be? Are all IT personal hardware fundies as well? I started late
in the IT business with a totally different previous vocation, and can do
all except put a CPU  mobo and cooler together, anyway lets not carry on
with this.


On 13 December 2012 00:22, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 17:25 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
  Mark writes:
   Any ideas guys?
 
  You may find that pressing down or prying up on that part of the board
  works as well as does the dryer.  Inspect the suspicious area of the
  MOBO carefully with a magnifying glass and then fix the crack or bad
  solder joint.

 +1

 Use a chopstick to press.

 The OP should be experienced with soldering multi-layer boards.
 Surface-mounted device aren't an issue, but solder joints might be
 plated-through by vias

 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Via_Types.svg/220px-Via_Types.svg.png.
  Without experiences the vias can lose their connections.

 Hth,
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Re: node.js npm and buster

Alan Chandler wrote:
 I am trying to setup buster.js to run under node.js in Debian Sid.

The name conflict of the much too generic node became one of those
irreconcilable differences.  After a very long discussion it was
referred to the technical committee and here is their resolution.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg2.html

 1) Node.js is not run as node (which the buster.js package
 assumes). Instead it runs as nodejs

Unfortunately, yes.

 2) npm install -g installs the package in
 /usr/local/lib/node_modules rather than in /usr/lib/node_modules.
 There is a comment in the README.Debian of npm which cryptically
 mentions using npm link in the package directory, but I tried that
 and managed to apparently delete the package from
 /usr/local/lib/node_modules

Sorry but I have no information on this point.

 Can someone give me some definitive instructions of getting
 buster.js to run in Debian

I think all you need is to install nodejs-legacy in order to have a
compatibility link installed.

Bob


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Re: How recover from aborted dist-upgrade Stable to Testing (due to apt-listbug bug 585448)

nv wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  At this moment Squeeze is still Stable and so there is no difference
  between the two steps that you did above.  No difference.

 There is actually a real difference, in how updates are handled, in
 that 'squeeze' would keep me on the Squeeze release even when Wheezy
 becomes 'stable,' whereas 'stable' would update me to Wheezy when it
 becomes 'stable.'

Yes.  Exactly.  Because having either in place would cause a surprise
and very likely some system breakage when a release happens.  Because
in recent releases there are always special instructions that are
needed to be complied with in the release notes.  It hasn't been
possible to do a hands-off automated upgrade for a while.  Therefore I
think it is trouble waiting to happen if you have 'stable' listed
instead off squeeze.

If on the other hand you are riding 'testing' then for most day to day
periods it is fine.  But right after a release the freeze is lifted
and the floodgates open to changes rolling in from unstable.  Testing
is usually a little unstable right around that point.  It settles down
after a short while however.

 I did the update/upgrade for 'squeeze,' then for
 'stable,' with the expectation of no immediate difference, which is
 what I presume you are telling me now.  Good catch of my ambiguity that
 might have tripped up someone else reading this. :)

But your target goal was Wheezy.  Right?  I don't see any advantage
in going from squeeze to stable to wheezy.

 Yes, you are correct.  I misunderstood the timing for doing 'aptitude
 upgrade' as specified in that step.  I presumed I HAD done that step,
 but now that you bring it to my attention in this way, I see that I
 should do that AFTER changing my sources.list, but BEFORE doing
 dist-upgrade.

Yes!  A very critical thing.

 This is also why my dist-upgrade experience has always
 included the undesirable effect of removing lots of wanted packages.  I
 am very happy to have this clarified! :)

Oh good.

 All of my poking and prodding, so far, indicates that changing my
 sources.list back to 'stable' has safely and cleanly aborted the
 dist-upgrade.  Thank you for your advice. :)

Ah!  In that case you are ready to read through the upgrade
documentation and proceed with the directions there.  And remember
that it isn't released yet.  There may be bugs in the documentation as
well as in the process.  If you find something in the doc that needs
to be updated to match the process then please file a bug against it
so that it can be fixed before the release.

Bob


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acroread episode

Hi,

1. I kept the acroread related from updating for half a year, I guess.

2. Today, I tried full-upgrade,

The following packages will be REMOVED:
acroread{a} acroread-debian-files{a} acroread-escript{a} blcr-dkms{a}
fglrx-glx-ia32{a} ia32-libs{a} ia32-libs-dev{a} ia32-libs-gtk{a}
ia32-libs-xulrunner{a} libfglrx-ia32{a} mozilla-acroread{a}
nspluginwrapper{a}
The following packages will be upgraded:
acroread-data libcr-dev libcr0 lockfile-progs rsync

3. From http://www.deb-multimedia.org/

I try:

To install new acroread packages :
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get install acroread

Now:

 apt-get install acroread
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  acroread-debian-files:i386 cups-bsd gcc-4.7-base:i386 libatk1.0-0:i386
  libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386
  libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcairo2:i386 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386
  libdatrie1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau1a:i386
  libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386 libexpat1:i386 libffi5:i386
  libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libgcc1:i386 libgcrypt11:i386
  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
  libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libgnutls26:i386
  libgpg-error0:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libidn11:i386
  libjasper1:i386 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg8:i386 libk5crypto3:i386
  libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblzma5:i386
  libp11-kit0:i386 libpango1.0-0:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libpcre3:i386
  libpixman-1-0:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libselinux1:i386 libstdc++6:i386
  libtasn1-3:i386 libthai0:i386 libtiff4:i386 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386
  libxau6:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386
  libxcb1:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386
  libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxft2:i386 libxi6:i386
  libxinerama1:i386 libxml2:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386
  libxxf86vm1:i386 zlib1g:i386
Suggested packages:
  acroread-plugins:i386 mozilla-acroread:i386 glibc-doc:i386 locales:i386
  rng-tools:i386 libglide3:i386 krb5-doc:i386 krb5-user:i386
  librsvg2-common:i386 gvfs:i386 libjasper-runtime:i386 ttf-baekmuk:i386
  ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp:i386 ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp:i386 ttf-arphic-gkai00mp:i386
  ttf-arphic-bkai00mp:i386
Recommended packages:
  cups-bsd:i386 mime-support:i386 hicolor-icon-theme:i386 xml-core:i386
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  lpr
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  acroread:i386 acroread-debian-files:i386 cups-bsd gcc-4.7-base:i386
  libatk1.0-0:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386
  libavahi-common3:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcairo2:i386
  libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libdatrie1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386
  libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau1a:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386
  libexpat1:i386 libffi5:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386
  libgcc1:i386 libgcrypt11:i386 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
  libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386
libglu1-mesa:i386
  libgnutls26:i386 libgpg-error0:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386
  libidn11:i386 libjasper1:i386 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg8:i386
libk5crypto3:i386
  libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblzma5:i386
  libp11-kit0:i386 libpango1.0-0:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libpcre3:i386
  libpixman-1-0:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libselinux1:i386 libstdc++6:i386
  libtasn1-3:i386 libthai0:i386 libtiff4:i386 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386
  libxau6:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386
  libxcb1:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386
  libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxft2:i386 libxi6:i386
  libxinerama1:i386 libxml2:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386
  libxxf86vm1:i386 zlib1g:i386
0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

4. $ uname -a
Linux debian 3.3.5 #1 SMP Thu May 10 16:24:07 SGT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux


I am confused about how to install the acroread, without installing
other i386 packages.

Thanks ahead for your suggestions,

Best regards,


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Re: LVM devices and symlinks

2012-12-12 Thread Neil T . Dantam

At Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:54:41 +,
Roger Leigh wrote:
   
   Reboot the box after installing LVM.
  
  Ah, a reboot has lvcreate working properly, thank you.
 
 This is good to know.  However, this should all be triggered
 when the package is initially installed.

Agree that turning it off and on again is not exactly a solution.
However, I'm not sure that it's something missing from the LVM package
installation since I'd already rebooted after initially installing LVM
(/ was on a logical volume).

 Please could you file a serious bug against the lvm package so that
 this can be fixed.

I can go ahead and file the report, but at the moment, I don't have
any more detail than /sometimes/ lvcreate doesn't make the right
files/symlinks.

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Re: LVM devices and symlinks

2012-12-12 Thread Neil T . Dantam

At Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:54:41 +,
Roger Leigh wrote:
   
   Reboot the box after installing LVM.
  
  Ah, a reboot has lvcreate working properly, thank you.
 
 This is good to know.  However, this should all be triggered
 when the package is initially installed.

Agree that turning it off and on again is not exactly a solution.
However, I'm not sure that it's something missing from the LVM package
installation since I'd already rebooted after initially installing LVM
(/ was on a logical volume).

 Please could you file a serious bug against the lvm package so that
 this can be fixed.

I can go ahead and file the report, but at the moment, I don't have
any more detail than /sometimes/ lvcreate doesn't make the right
files/symlinks.

-ntd


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Re: acroread episode

Simplified speaking, how to install the acroread?

partial of my source.list is:

deb [arch=amd64,i386] http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ wheezy main non-free


Thanks,

Best regards,


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Re: acroread episode

 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   acroread:i386 acroread-debian-files:i386 cups-bsd gcc-4.7-base:i386
   libatk1.0-0:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386
   libavahi-common3:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcairo2:i386
   libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libdatrie1:i386 libdbus-1-3:i386
   libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau1a:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386
   libexpat1:i386 libffi5:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386
   libgcc1:i386 libgcrypt11:i386 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
   libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386
 libglu1-mesa:i386
   libgnutls26:i386 libgpg-error0:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386
   libidn11:i386 libjasper1:i386 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg8:i386
 libk5crypto3:i386
   libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblzma5:i386
   libp11-kit0:i386 libpango1.0-0:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libpcre3:i386
   libpixman-1-0:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libselinux1:i386 libstdc++6:i386
   libtasn1-3:i386 libthai0:i386 libtiff4:i386 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386
   libxau6:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386
   libxcb1:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386
   libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxft2:i386 libxi6:i386
   libxinerama1:i386 libxml2:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386
   libxxf86vm1:i386 zlib1g:i386
 0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 
 4. $ uname -a
 Linux debian 3.3.5 #1 SMP Thu May 10 16:24:07 SGT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 

or is it necessary to install those 76 packages? really baffled.


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Re: acroread episode

2012-12-12 Thread Johan Grönqvist


2012-12-13 05:25, lina skrev:

Hi,

1. I kept the acroread related from updating for half a year, I guess.

2. Today, I tried full-upgrade,
[...]
3. From http://www.deb-multimedia.org/

I try:

To install new acroread packages :
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get install acroread

Now:

  apt-get install acroread
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
[long list of i386 packages]
Suggested packages:
[list of i386 packages]
Recommended packages:
   cups-bsd:i386 mime-support:i386 hicolor-icon-theme:i386 xml-core:i386
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   lpr
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   [long list of i386 packages]
0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

4. $ uname -a
Linux debian 3.3.5 #1 SMP Thu May 10 16:24:07 SGT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I am confused about how to install the acroread, without installing
other i386 packages.



Short answer: You cant. You had the same things installed before, and 
they were just hidden inside of ia32-libs.


Acroread is now a multiarch-package, as it says on the deb-multimedia 
website, and the amd64 package for acroread is gone. The point of 
multiarch is to allow installation of the 32-bit package belonging to 
the i386 arch and using that acroread on your amd64 system.


The i386 package of acroread has dependencies on lots of other i386 
libraries. Previously the 32-bit acroread was packaged in an amd64 
package with dependency on ia32-libs. ia32-libs was a very large package 
containing all of the 32-bit libraries that acroread depended on.


In the new world you can remove the large and unmaintanable ia32-libs 
and instead install well-maintained packages from i386.


Hope that is clear enough.

Regards

Johan


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Re: node.js npm and buster

2012-12-12 Thread Tom H

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Alan Chandler
a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote:

 I am trying to setup buster.js to run under node.js in Debian Sid.  The
 buster.js video shows a guy on a mac do it in a few seconds.

 What I so far have discovered with Debian is

 1) Node.js is not run as node (which the buster.js package assumes).
 Instead it runs as nodejs

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg2.html


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Re: acroread episode

On Thursday 13,December,2012 02:24 PM, Johan Grönqvist wrote:
 2012-12-13 05:25, lina skrev:
 Hi,

 1. I kept the acroread related from updating for half a year, I guess.

 2. Today, I tried full-upgrade,
 [...]
 3. From http://www.deb-multimedia.org/

 I try:

 To install new acroread packages :
 dpkg --add-architecture i386
 apt-get update
 apt-get install acroread

 Now:

   apt-get install acroread
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 The following extra packages will be installed:
 [long list of i386 packages]
 Suggested packages:
 [list of i386 packages]
 Recommended packages:
cups-bsd:i386 mime-support:i386 hicolor-icon-theme:i386 xml-core:i386
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
lpr
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
[long list of i386 packages]
 0 upgraded, 76 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 4. $ uname -a
 Linux debian 3.3.5 #1 SMP Thu May 10 16:24:07 SGT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 I am confused about how to install the acroread, without installing
 other i386 packages.

 
 Short answer: You cant. You had the same things installed before, and
 they were just hidden inside of ia32-libs.
 
 Acroread is now a multiarch-package, as it says on the deb-multimedia
 website, and the amd64 package for acroread is gone. The point of
 multiarch is to allow installation of the 32-bit package belonging to
 the i386 arch and using that acroread on your amd64 system.
 
 The i386 package of acroread has dependencies on lots of other i386
 libraries. Previously the 32-bit acroread was packaged in an amd64
 package with dependency on ia32-libs. ia32-libs was a very large package
 containing all of the 32-bit libraries that acroread depended on.
 
 In the new world you can remove the large and unmaintanable ia32-libs
 and instead install well-maintained packages from i386.

I have purged all ia32-libs related package.

Shall I install the 76 packages? (a little worry may mess up the system)

Thanks,

 
 Hope that is clear enough.
 
 Regards
 
 Johan
 
 


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Re: acroread episode