Pb gstreamer sur utilisteur non root.

2013-09-01 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

voici le message que me donne rhymthmbox au lancement d'une lecture

La création de l'élément playbin2 a échoué ; vérifiez votre installation
de GStreamer

sur une install Debian 7

uname -a
Linux alphonse 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64
GNU/Linux

Ce soft fonctionnait très bien il y a 8 jours, depuis une mise à jour et
un déménagement, voilà le résultat...

Autres informations :
- l'utilisateur root ne rencontre aucun problème de fonctionnement.
- les autre soft comme banshee ou clementine sont aussi en échec
(gstreamer a un pb).

Il semble que cela soit un Pb lié au user...

mais je n'ai pas trouvé où est stocké la config de gstream sur le
répertoire home...

SI qq'1 avait une idée avant que je laisse cette machine seule et loin
de moi (900km)...

Merci.

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Re: Pb gstreamer sur utilisteur non root.

2013-09-01 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:39:48 +0200,
Yann Cohen y...@ianco.org a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 voici le message que me donne rhymthmbox au lancement d'une lecture
 
 La création de l'élément playbin2 a échoué ; vérifiez votre
 installation de GStreamer
 
 sur une install Debian 7
 
 uname -a
 Linux alphonse 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 
 Ce soft fonctionnait très bien il y a 8 jours, depuis une mise à jour
 et un déménagement, voilà le résultat...
 
 Autres informations :
 - l'utilisateur root ne rencontre aucun problème de fonctionnement.
 - les autre soft comme banshee ou clementine sont aussi en échec
 (gstreamer a un pb).
 
 Il semble que cela soit un Pb lié au user...
 
 mais je n'ai pas trouvé où est stocké la config de gstream sur le
 répertoire home...
 
 SI qq'1 avait une idée avant que je laisse cette machine seule et loin
 de moi (900km)...
 
 Merci.
 
bonjour,

serait il possible de créer un autre user afin d'éprouver 
les droits ?


slt
bernard

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread François TOURDE
Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:

 Bonsoir,

 C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une réseau
 en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?

Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style

 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
  pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh

Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans
/etc/network/

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Jean Baptiste FAVRE
Bonjour,

Là encore, je pense que if-pre-up.d serait plus indiqué.

De cette manière, le firewall est appliqué avant l'activation de
l'interface :)

Cordialement,
JB

Le 01/09/2013 10:00, François TOURDE a écrit :
 Le 15949ième jour après Epoch, Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:
 
 Bonsoir,
 
 C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une
 réseau en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?
 
 Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style
 
 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp pre-up
 /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh
 
 Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans 
 /etc/network/
 

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Dominique Asselineau
François TOURDE wrote on Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 10:00:55AM +0200
 Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
 Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:
 
  Bonsoir,
 
  C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une réseau
  en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?
 
 Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style
 
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp
 pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh
 
 Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans
 /etc/network/

Désolé, j'ai oublié de préciser qu'il s'agissait d'un VPS qui a donc
une IP statique.

À propos du rép. /etc/network/if-up-d/, le rép.
/etc/network/if-pre-up-d/ ne serait-il pas plus approprié ?

Comme il s'agit d'un VPS sur lequel j'ai plusieurs services (Apache2,
MySQL uniquement en accès local, SMTP), la solution /ec/rc?.d/ ne
serait-elle pas plus adaptée/précise ?  En forçant l'exécution des
règles iptables, avant le démarrage du réseau à l'aide des dépendances
gérées par insserv.

dom 

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Re: Pb gstreamer sur utilisteur non root.

2013-09-01 Thread Yann Cohen
Le dimanche 01 septembre 2013 à 09:54 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a
écrit :
 Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:39:48 +0200,
 Yann Cohen y...@ianco.org a écrit :
 
  Bonjour,
  
  voici le message que me donne rhymthmbox au lancement d'une lecture
  
  La création de l'élément playbin2 a échoué ; vérifiez votre
  installation de GStreamer
  
  sur une install Debian 7
  
  uname -a
  Linux alphonse 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64
  GNU/Linux
  
  Ce soft fonctionnait très bien il y a 8 jours, depuis une mise à jour
  et un déménagement, voilà le résultat...
  
  Autres informations :
  - l'utilisateur root ne rencontre aucun problème de fonctionnement.
  - les autre soft comme banshee ou clementine sont aussi en échec
  (gstreamer a un pb).
  
  Il semble que cela soit un Pb lié au user...
  
  mais je n'ai pas trouvé où est stocké la config de gstream sur le
  répertoire home...
  
  SI qq'1 avait une idée avant que je laisse cette machine seule et loin
  de moi (900km)...
  
  Merci.
  
 bonjour,
 
   serait il possible de créer un autre user afin d'éprouver 
   les droits ?

Fait.

Gstreamer Ok sous ce compte...

Yann.
 
 
   slt
   bernard
 

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Resolu: Pb gstreamer sur utilisteur non root.

2013-09-01 Thread Yann Cohen
Bonjour,

J'ai été radical = suppression du répertoire $HOME/.gstreamer-0.10

Pourtant j'avais essayé de le renommer... Enfin je croyais, parce que je
n'ai pas retrouvé le répertoire modifié !

Merci.
Yann.
Le dimanche 01 septembre 2013 à 11:36 +0200, Yann Cohen a écrit :
 Le dimanche 01 septembre 2013 à 09:54 +0200, Bernard Schoenacker a
 écrit :
  Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:39:48 +0200,
  Yann Cohen y...@ianco.org a écrit :
  
   Bonjour,
   
   voici le message que me donne rhymthmbox au lancement d'une lecture
   
   La création de l'élément playbin2 a échoué ; vérifiez votre
   installation de GStreamer
   
   sur une install Debian 7
   
   uname -a
   Linux alphonse 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64
   GNU/Linux
   
[...]

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Bonjour,*

*Le 01/09/2013 10:00, François TOURDE a écrit :

Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:


Bonsoir,

C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une réseau
en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?

Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style


auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh

Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans
/etc/network/


Saulf que en pre-up et dhcp, si les règles sont basées sur l IP 
publique, celle ci n'est pas encore connue, il faut donc le faire en 2 
temps: pre-up protège l'interface, post-up pour les règles liées à 
l'adresse IP

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 13:48:51 +0200
daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit:

 Bonjour,*
 
 *Le 01/09/2013 10:00, François TOURDE a écrit :
  Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
  Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:
 
  Bonsoir,
 
  C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une
  réseau en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?
  Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style
 
  auto eth0
  iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh
  Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans
  /etc/network/
 
 Saulf que en pre-up et dhcp, si les règles sont basées sur l IP 
 publique, celle ci n'est pas encore connue, il faut donc le faire en
 2 temps: pre-up protège l'interface, post-up pour les règles liées à 
 l'adresse IP

Oui c'était ça mon point d'interrogation. Vu que l'IP n'est pas connue
il est difficile de créer une règle iptable dessus ...
Et maintenant comment faites-vous avec une machine qui bouge beaucoup
comme un portable avec network-manager ? J'utilise le dispatcher avec
des règles sur up et dhcp4-change mais du coup ça n'intervient qu'après
que l'interface soit active.

Gaëtan

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Re: Impossible de lancer kde4 sous wheezy (résolu)

2013-09-01 Thread andre_debian
On Saturday 31 August 2013 15:46:30 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
 J'ai intégralement désinstallé kde-trinity
 remplacé par kde4.
 Lorsque je boote sous Kde, je reçois ces messages :
 call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full ). check your
 installation
 /usr/bin/startkde kde4-config : not found
 et je reviens au login.
 J'ai bien mis les droits complets rwxrwxrwt à /tmp et /var/tmp
 mais toujours ces mêmes messages d'erreur.

En désinstallant complètement KDE4 (--purge)  puis réinstallation,
ça fonctionne très bien.

En passant, je trouve KDE4 très sophistiqué, magnifique bureau
mais trop lourd.
Je pense rester sur TDE, bon compromis entre XFCE et KDE4.

andré

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driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread maderios

Bonjour
J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia, dont 
le  304.88, avec le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10, cela ne 
passe pas et c'est la première fois qu'un tel problème se produit. 
Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ?

Aucun problème avec les autres noyaux/sources.
Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les paquets des drivers 
nvidia + paquet noyau 3.10 sont dispo dans Wheezy.

Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir

#Sur WHEEZY, fin du  nvidia-installer.log

/usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/cpumask.h: In function ‘cpumask_parse’:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/cpumask.h:603:26: warning: 
signed and unsigned type in conditional expression [-Wsign-compare]
   In file included from 
/usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h:539:0,

from /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/poll.h:11,
from 
/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-linux.h:115,
from 
/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c:15:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h: In 
function ‘copy_from_user’:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h:62:6: 
warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions 
[-Wsign-compare]
   /tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c: In 
function ‘nv_i2c_del_adapter’:
   /tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c:327:14: 
error: void value not ignored as it ought to be
   make[4]: *** 
[/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.o] Error 1
   make[3]: *** 
[_module_/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel] Error 2

   make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
   NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
   nvidia.ko failed to build!
   make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
   make: *** [module] Error 2
- Error.
ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file 
'/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details.  You may find suggestions 
on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux 
driver download page at www.nvidia.com.


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Re: driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread Mourad Jaber


Le 01/09/2013 15:33, maderios a écrit :

Bonjour
J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia, dont le  304.88, avec 
le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10, cela ne passe pas et c'est la première fois 
qu'un tel problème se produit. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ?

Aucun problème avec les autres noyaux/sources.
Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les paquets des drivers nvidia + paquet noyau 
3.10 sont dispo dans Wheezy.

Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir

#Sur WHEEZY, fin du  nvidia-installer.log

/usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/cpumask.h: In function ‘cpumask_parse’:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/cpumask.h:603:26: warning: signed and unsigned 
type in conditional expression [-Wsign-compare]

   In file included from 
/usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess.h:539:0,
from /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/include/linux/poll.h:11,
from 
/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-linux.h:115,
from 
/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c:15:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h: In function 
‘copy_from_user’:
   /usr/src/linux-3.10.10/arch/x86/include/asm/uaccess_64.h:62:6: warning: comparison 
between signed and unsigned integer expressions [-Wsign-compare]
   /tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c: In function 
‘nv_i2c_del_adapter’:
/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.c:327:14: error: void value not 
ignored as it ought to be

   make[4]: *** [/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel/nv-i2c.o] 
Error 1
   make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/selfgz6301/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.40/kernel] 
Error 2
   make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
   NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
   nvidia.ko failed to build!
   make[1]: *** [module] Error 1
   make: *** [module] Error 2
- Error.
ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
ERROR: Installation has failed.  Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for 
details.  You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README 
available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.



Bonjour,

Je te conseille d'utiliser celui en experimental (325.15-1) Il fonctionne parfaitement 
avec un noyau 3.10.2 (je l'utilise depuis qu'il est dispo sur une machine de bureau et un 
laptop).


J'ai eu pas mal de soucis de compilation avec le 304.88.

++

Mourad

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Re: driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:24:03 +0200
Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit:

 
 Le 01/09/2013 15:33, maderios a écrit :
  Bonjour
  J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia,
  dont le  304.88, avec le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10,
  cela ne passe pas et c'est la première fois qu'un tel problème se
  produit. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ? Aucun problème avec les autres
  noyaux/sources. Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les
  paquets des drivers nvidia + paquet noyau 3.10 sont dispo dans
  Wheezy. Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Je te conseille d'utiliser celui en experimental (325.15-1) Il
 fonctionne parfaitement avec un noyau 3.10.2 (je l'utilise depuis
 qu'il est dispo sur une machine de bureau et un laptop).
 
 J'ai eu pas mal de soucis de compilation avec le 304.88.
 
 ++
 
 Mourad

Salut,

Je ne partage pas ton enthousiasme pour le 325.15-1. Je l'avais
installé, quand il est apparu, alors que j'avais le précédent
d'experimental et j'avais un comportement erratique. Du coup je l'ai
viré et je suis revenu sur le 304.88.
Sinon je vois que maintenant il y a aussi un 304.108 dans sid peut-être
résout-il les problèmes de compilation ?

Gaëtan

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Re: driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread maderios

On 09/01/2013 07:22 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:24:03 +0200
Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit:



Le 01/09/2013 15:33, maderios a écrit :

Bonjour
J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia,
dont le  304.88, avec le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10,
cela ne passe pas et c'est la première fois qu'un tel problème se
produit. Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ? Aucun problème avec les autres
noyaux/sources. Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les
paquets des drivers nvidia + paquet noyau 3.10 sont dispo dans
Wheezy. Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir


Bonjour,

Je te conseille d'utiliser celui en experimental (325.15-1) Il
fonctionne parfaitement avec un noyau 3.10.2 (je l'utilise depuis
qu'il est dispo sur une machine de bureau et un laptop).

J'ai eu pas mal de soucis de compilation avec le 304.88.

++

Mourad


Salut,

Je ne partage pas ton enthousiasme pour le 325.15-1. Je l'avais
installé, quand il est apparu, alors que j'avais le précédent
d'experimental et j'avais un comportement erratique. Du coup je l'ai
viré et je suis revenu sur le 304.88.
Sinon je vois que maintenant il y a aussi un 304.108 dans sid peut-être
résout-il les problèmes de compilation ?



Salut
J'ai déjà testé le 325.15 de nvidia, le GPU (et non cpu) tourne à fond 
et chauffe  un max, donc c'est plutôt une version bêta... Le pb ne vient 
pas des drivers  nvidia normaux mais du kernel 3.10. Tous les autres 
kernel permettent de compiler normalement tous les drivers nvidia.


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Re: driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread François Boisson
Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 15:33:55 +0200
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit:

 Bonjour
 J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia, dont 
 le  304.88, avec le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10, cela ne 
 passe pas et c'est la première fois qu'un tel problème se produit. 
 Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ?
 Aucun problème avec les autres noyaux/sources.
 Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les paquets des drivers 
 nvidia + paquet noyau 3.10 sont dispo dans Wheezy.
 Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir
 

Il te faut la dernière version, j'ai fait un backport du 325 pour wheezy sur

deb http://boisson.homeip.net/depot wheezy nvidia

(tu as un paquet du noyau 3.10.1 avec un pacth aufs sur
deb http://boisson.homeip.net/depot wheezy divers
)

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Re: driver nvidia refuse compilation avec le noyau 3.10

2013-09-01 Thread maderios

On 09/01/2013 08:16 PM, François Boisson wrote:

Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 15:33:55 +0200
maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit:


Bonjour
J'ai essayé plusieurs fois de compiler différents  drivers nvidia, dont
le  304.88, avec le kernel 3.10 (sources), dont le 3.10.10, cela ne
passe pas et c'est la première fois qu'un tel problème se produit.
Quelqu'un a-t-il réussi ?
Aucun problème avec les autres noyaux/sources.
Je pose cette question à cause du fait que les paquets des drivers
nvidia + paquet noyau 3.10 sont dispo dans Wheezy.
Si Debian a réussi à le faire, il y a un espoir



Il te faut la dernière version, j'ai fait un backport du 325 pour wheezy sur

deb http://boisson.homeip.net/depot wheezy nvidia

(tu as un paquet du noyau 3.10.1 avec un pacth aufs sur
deb http://boisson.homeip.net/depot wheezy divers
)



J'ai tjrs compilé moi-même les noyaux + drivers nvidia.
Merci quand même.

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Re: Transcription d'un fichier audio

2013-09-01 Thread Alain Vaugham
Le Sat, 31 Aug 2013 11:19:00 +0200,
Zuthos Oddy zut...@laposte.net a écrit :

 
 citation de=nicolas.patr...@gmail.com
  Comment ça, en fichier texte ?
  Tu veux les paroles ? La partition ? Les balises ?
  Quel est le format du fichier audio ? midi ou équivalent ? mp3 ou
  équivalent ?
 
 Merci de vous être penché sur ma problématique.
 
 Au vu de vos question, il est évident que je me suis mal exprimé. En
 fait, il s'agit d'un enregistrement d'une conférence. je dois faire
 la version papier
 des débats.
 

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http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/reconnaissance_vocale


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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 Le Sun, 01 Sep 2013 13:48:51 +0200
 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit:
 Saulf que en pre-up et dhcp, si les règles sont basées sur l IP 
 publique, celle ci n'est pas encore connue, il faut donc le faire en
 2 temps: pre-up protège l'interface, post-up pour les règles liées à 
 l'adresse IP
 
 Oui c'était ça mon point d'interrogation. Vu que l'IP n'est pas connue
 il est difficile de créer une règle iptable dessus ...
 Et maintenant comment faites-vous avec une machine qui bouge beaucoup
 comme un portable avec network-manager ? J'utilise le dispatcher avec
 des règles sur up et dhcp4-change mais du coup ça n'intervient qu'après
 que l'interface soit active.

En deux temps, on t'a dit.
Avant le démarrage du réseau : on bloque tout.
Avant ou après l'activation d'une interface, peu importe : on ajoute les
règles liées à l'interface en question (qu'on n'oublie pas de supprimer
à sa désactivation n'est-ce pas).

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Re: [HS] Connexion à FREE avec un modem en zone dégroupée

2013-09-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
 Le 31/08/2013 12:41, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
 Salut,

 daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
 Information supplémentaire: je suis en encapsulation 1483 Bridged IP VC-MUX
 Pour IPoA il faut utiliser le mode routed et non bridged.
 
 Le modem ne fait que bridged

Alors c'est mort.

 Mais pas sûr qu'un simple modem le supporte correctement,
 
 Il semble que si puisqu'il est bien connecté

Il est juste synchronisé au niveau ADSL, ça ne va pas plus loin. Il est
incapable de traiter le trafic IPoA.

 la Freebox en mode non
 routeur fait un peu plus (serveur DHCP pour l'adresse publique attribuée
 par Free, proxy ARP pour tout le sous-réseau correspondant).
 
 Elle est en mode bridge, tous ces services sont désactivés.

Le mode de fonctionnement de la Freebox communément appelé bridge (que
je préfère appeler non routeur pour éviter la confusion) n'a
*strictement* rien à voir avec l'encapsulation de type bridged
ethernet sur ATM définie dans RFC1483/2684.

En mode non routeur, la Freebox :
- fait la conversion IPoA - IPoE entre ADSL et ethernet
- envoie de l'ARP avec sa propre adresse MAC sur l'interface ethernet,
requêtes pour l'adresse IP du poste client et réponses pour l'adresse de
passerelle par défaut et le reste du sous-réseau.
- du DHCP sur l'interface ethernet pour servir l'adresse publique au
poste client.

 Ce que tu me dis la c'est que je devrai voir le flux venant de 
 l'interface publique sur l'interface connectée au port LAN de ce modem? 

Oui, et d'autres choses en plus comme déjà dit (DHCP, ARP).

 Si c'est le cas, cela me parait bizarre, il faudrait alors que je mette 
 l'IP publique Free en alias de l'interface LAN connectée à ce modem et 
 que je cré une route vers l'IP de ma passerelle Free. Cela dit, je 
 l'avais déjà testé et cela ne fonctionnait pas.

Normal, ton modem ne fait pas les choses que fait la freebox.

 Un tshark tournait sur l'interface LAN, je n'ai jamais vu de trafic 
 entrant ce qui ne m'étonne guère, mon adresse IP publique étant inconnue 
 du grand Internet

Au contraire elle l'est, ton modem reçoit le trafic IPoA qui lui est
destinée mais il ne sait pas quoi en faire.

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Jak Budować?

2013-09-01 Thread Portal Budowlany
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Re: Buscar aplicación para postear en blogs Blogger/Wordpress

2013-09-01 Thread julio
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:19:07PM -0430, Miguel Matos wrote:
 Saludos a la lista, esto será rápido: ¿alguno(a) estará usando un
 programa que permita redactar/postear post de blogs en Blogger y
 Wordpress? En Windows está Zoundry Raven, pero pasado un tiempo dejó

Ambas plataformas admiten el envío de artículos vía correo electrónico.

Un saludo

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Re: minicom y/o setserial

2013-09-01 Thread Gonzalo L. Campos Medina
Utiliza setserial y la configuración la puedes añadir a rc.local

Saludos


El 30 de agosto de 2013 09:04, co...@esid.gecgr.co.cu escribió:

  Hola

 tengo una PC con debian 5, aqui es donde se gestiona la conectividad via
 modem.

  Es un Pentium 4 a 1.8 Ghz, la mb trae 2 puertos series donde se ponen 2
  modem ademas de esto se le puso una tarjeta PCI LAVA que trae 2 puertos
  series y ahi puse 2 modem mas o sea van 4 modem.

  Puse una segunda tarjeta PCI LAVA y le puse 2 modem mas para un total de
  6
  modem pero el caso es que estos ultimos no los reconoce la tarjeta o
  algo
  falta.

  cuando le doy lspci el me reconoce las 2 tarjetas PCI LAVA que tiene el
  sistema pero no los modem.

  Que puede faltar???

 Con dmseg | grep tty   me pusom esto

 [0.004000] console [tty0] enabled
 [1.769854] serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 [1.770070] serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 [1.770721] 00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 [1.771023] 00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
 [1.772842] :02:02.0: ttyS2 at I/O 0x9400 (irq = 9) is a 16550A
 [1.773360] :02:02.1: ttyS3 at I/O 0x9800 (irq = 9) is a 16550A

 Es que está asumiendo los ttyS0 y ttyS1 de los series que trae la
 motherboard

 Como pudiera hacer que los

 [1.770721] 00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 [1.771023] 00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

 quedaran asi

 [1.770721] 00:09: ttyS4 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 [1.771023] 00:0a: ttyS5 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A

 Se pudiera resolver con setserial o minicom ???


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Re: Dirección IP Duplicada o en conflicto en la red.

2013-09-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 31 Aug 2013 23:10:12 +0200, Ramses escribió:

 El 31/08/2013, a las 13:25, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

(...)

 Camaleón, revisa esas pruebas y confirma...
 
 Revisado y confirmado.
 
 Lo que hago exactamente es:

(...)

 Ni se inmutan. No hay conflicto y no hay avisos ni alertas... OJO, que
 Windows sí se queja (te avisa con un globito de esos informativos)
 cuando detecta que otro equipo windows de la red está usando la misma
 IP pero cuando ese otro equipo es Debian no dice ni pío.
 
 Yo acabo de pisar una IP con varios equipos (CentOS, W7 y iPhone) y
 cascan, dan error de duplicidad y no se registran en la LAN.
 
 Vamos, y de navegar, ni hablamos...
 
 Pues no sé... ¿qué tipo de hardware usas? ¿algún switch gestionable o
 router avanzado? ¿estás en un grupo de trabajo o un dominio?
 
 Yo tengo todas las máquinas en una LAN, un switch gestionable, excepto
 el iPhone, que va por Wi-Fi, y en todas casca y no navegan. Unas
 máquinas son físicas y otras virtuales...

El switch al que están conectados estos equipos no es gestionable, quizá 
sea eso. El caso es que no recibo ningún aviso ni mensaje indicando 
conflicto (tampoco en windows, que es lo más raro...).

Los 3 equipos son máquinas reales, no virtuales y el netbook que va por 
wifi está conectado a un AP que termina enganchado al mismo switch.

 Yo no es que no pueda navegar, sino que IP no se levanta y no tengo
 acceso a otras máquinas de la red por IP.

Pues qué raro :-?

¿Pero qué sucede cuando intentas configurar un adaptador de red con una IP 
que ya está en uso?

 ¿Tú las tienes todas en la LAN o por Wi-Fi?. Yo me he encontrado algunos
 AP que hacen algún apaño raro...

Todos los equipos están en la misma LAN. El que va por wifi conecta a 
través de un AP (un módem-router ADSL) que está conectado al switch, 
vamos, lo típico.

 ¿A parte de navegar puedes acceder a otras máquinas de la LAN?

Pues voy a probarlo aunque ahora sólo tengo un windows y un debian... no, 
no tengo acceso a un recurso de red compartido (samba) y tampoco 
responden los pings contra las máquinas de la red, excepto -obviamente- 
hacia los routers ADSL/FTTH.

Parece que sólo la navegación funciona correctamente y también las 
conexiones FTP (es decir, todo lo que sale por el router) y 
curiosamente, el ssh local también.

 ¿No tendrás IPv6 e IPv4 y estará navegando por IPv6?

Huy, qué va. Esto es España, ¿quién navega hoy en día por IPv6 (quitando 
los 4 centros de investigación/empresas que lo puedan tener)? :-)

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Re: Buscar aplicación para postear en blogs Blogger/Wordpress

2013-09-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:19:07 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Saludos a la lista, esto será rápido: ¿alguno(a) estará usando un
 programa que permita redactar/postear post de blogs en Blogger y
 Wordpress? 

(...)

Pues no, pero tienes una lista maja por aquí:

Desktop Blogging Software, The Ultimate List
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/desktop-blogging-clients-the-ultimate-list/

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Re: Direcci??n IP Duplicada o en conflicto en la red.

2013-09-01 Thread Ra??l Alexis Betancor Santana
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 07:25:31PM +0200, Ramses wrote:
 Imaginemos que a los dos equipos se les ha asignado, por error, la misma IP a 
 mano y el primero ya estaba arrancado y funcionando cuando se intenta 
 registrar el segundo con la misma IP en la LAN.
 
 ??Hay alg??n log en el primer equipo donde se pueda ver ese intento de IP 
 duplicada?.

Mira que os la cojeis con papel de fumar ...

NO, no hay ning?n log de NADA.

Linux no guarda log en caso de conflicto de IP, 'SOLO', ciertas
distros, que usan network-manager o alg?n paquete parecido, te cantan
el error, y es implemente porque cuando le asignas la ip intentan
hacer un arping y si detectan respuesta ... te cantan el error, nada
m?s.

Si quieres saber si una IP est? duplicada en la LAN ... solo tienes
que hacer ping y arpping ... y con cualquier snifer, tipo tshar o
tcpdump, ver?s los 'DUP!' ... e incluso sabr?s la MAC, que si luego
tienes un switch gestionable 'de los de verdad', podr?s saber en que
boca est? el 'interfecto'.

De hecho si tienes una buena electr?nica de red, que una misma IP
aparezca con diferentes MAC's en las tablas del switch ... no hace que
deje de funcionar NADA.

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Re: Pregunta sobre actualizacióm de Iceweasel y Icedove

2013-09-01 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)


El 31/08/13 18:38, Camaleón escribió:

El Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:57:11 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:


El 31/08/13 15:55, Camaleón escribió:

(...)


¿Qué le pasa a testing, no recibe parches de seguridad? :-?


Si hago un aptitude safe-upgrade me hace actualizaciones, pero el
icedove no se actualiza desde hace mucho tiempo, mucho antes de que
Wheezy pasara estable, Creo que con icewease pasa los mismo (yo lo
actualizo desde experimental a la última versión).

Hum... Iceweasel va por la 23:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html


No se porque hace esto, es como si Debian hubiera abandonado de facto
los programas de mozilla.

Por lo anterior es  por lo que hice la pregunta en este hilo.

Tienen los paquetes un poco dejados, sí, por eso me pasé directamente a
los de Mozilla (Firefox y Thunderbird son dos aplicaciones que uso a
diario y me gusta mantenerlas al día).

Saludos,



Hola Camaleón,

Intento con Debian seguir lo máximo su filosofía todo software libre, 
salvo que algún imperativo me lo impida, por ejemplo relación con la 
administración, que todavía tiene cosa que sino usas algún privativo, no 
te deja actual.


En el caso de Iceweasel a través experimental puedo tener casi la última 
versión (Mozilla va por la 24.0 y de experimental es la 23.0).
En caso de icedove, mozilla a abandonado a thunderbird en la 17.0, y 
Debian salvo que te lo bajes de unstable que si esta en la 17.0, tanto 
stable como testing esta en la 10.0. No se por qué todavía no ha pasado 
a testing.



Reitero mi agradecimiento por la ayuda prestada, a ti y al resto de los 
que me contestaron.


Cuídense.

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Re: Pregunta sobre actualizacióm de Iceweasel y Icedove

2013-09-01 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:30:35 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

 El 31/08/13 18:38, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 No se porque hace esto, es como si Debian hubiera abandonado de facto
 los programas de mozilla.

 Por lo anterior es  por lo que hice la pregunta en este hilo.
 Tienen los paquetes un poco dejados, sí, por eso me pasé directamente a
 los de Mozilla (Firefox y Thunderbird son dos aplicaciones que uso a
 diario y me gusta mantenerlas al día).

 Hola Camaleón,
 
 Intento con Debian seguir lo máximo su filosofía todo software libre,
 salvo que algún imperativo me lo impida, por ejemplo relación con la
 administración, que todavía tiene cosa que sino usas algún privativo, no
 te deja actual.

Pues sinceramente, con este asunto de Mozilla y el logotipo no estoy de 
acuerdo con su postura. Quizá sería mejor incluir los paquetes de Mozilla 
sin modificar dentro de la sección non-free y así todos contentos.

 En el caso de Iceweasel a través experimental puedo tener casi la última
 versión (Mozilla va por la 24.0 y de experimental es la 23.0).

Mozilla va por la 23 (última versión estable), así que la 24 de Debian 
seguramente siga la rama nightly de Mozilla.

 En caso de icedove, mozilla a abandonado a thunderbird en la 17.0, 

Lo que ha hecho Mozilla es dejar en manos de la comunidad a Thunderbird 
pero no lo ha abandonado.

 y Debian salvo que te lo bajes de unstable que si esta en la 17.0, tanto
 stable como testing esta en la 10.0. No se por qué todavía no ha pasado
 a testing.

Debian estable tiene la versión 17, eso es lo raro.

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Re: Direcci??n IP Duplicada o en conflicto en la red.

2013-09-01 Thread Ramses
Hombre, Raúl, muy buenas,

El 01/09/2013, a las 14:43, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana 
r...@dimension-virtual.com escribió:

 On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 07:25:31PM +0200, Ramses wrote:
 Imaginemos que a los dos equipos se les ha asignado, por error, la misma IP 
 a mano y el primero ya estaba arrancado y funcionando cuando se intenta 
 registrar el segundo con la misma IP en la LAN.
 
 ??Hay alg??n log en el primer equipo donde se pueda ver ese intento de IP 
 duplicada?.
 
 Mira que os la cojeis con papel de fumar ...
 
 NO, no hay ningún log de NADA.
 
 Linux no guarda log en caso de conflicto de IP, 'SOLO', ciertas
 distros, que usan network-manager o algún paquete parecido, te cantan
 el error, y es implemente porque cuando le asignas la ip intentan
 hacer un arping y si detectan respuesta ... te cantan el error, nada
 más.
 
 Si quieres saber si una IP está duplicada en la LAN ... solo tienes
 que hacer ping y arpping ... y con cualquier snifer, tipo tshar o
 tcpdump, verás los 'DUP!' ... e incluso sabrás la MAC, que si luego
 tienes un switch gestionable 'de los de verdad', podrás saber en que
 boca está el 'interfecto'.
 
 De hecho si tienes una buena electrónica de red, que una misma IP
 aparezca con diferentes MAC's en las tablas del switch ... no hace que
 deje de funcionar NADA.
 
 Saludos

El tema de los logs es por averiguarlo a título póstumo, es decir, ver si hay 
alguien que esté pisando la IP de un Server que está en una red que está 
descontrolada, es decir, imagina, 3 ADSL's con sus DHCP Server activos y 
asignando los mismos rangos de IP's que también se asignan indiscriminadamente 
a mano...

Y eso que no llegarán a tener más de 15 máquinas... Y lo mejor, son 
informáticos y se dedican a dar servicio de eso...

El tema es que tienen un servidor dando servicios de Voz con un software de 
estos libres que hay por ahí, que lo mismo conoces... ;-) Y esporádica, y 
aleatoriamente, se les cortan llamadas y cosas de esas raras...

Tengo acceso a ese server en remoto y por eso preguntaba si había algo donde me 
reportara en ese server si se había arrancado otra máquina con la misma IP que 
esté dando ese tipo de problemas..., y documentarlo...


Saludos,

Ramses

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Videoconferencias con Skype en debian 2.6.32-5-686

2013-09-01 Thread Ala de Dragón
¡Hola a todos!
:-D
Resulta que me gustaria poder hacer una video conferencia con unos
amigos al otro lado del oceano. Ellos gastan skype e instale la
version 4.2.0.11-1
El programa arranca, conecta y puedo enviar mensajes escritos a mis
amigos, la webcam tiene un micro incorporado y puedo enviar/recibir
audio con ella, pero no puedo enviar video, solo recibirlo. Chesse me
permite hacer auto fotos con la cam por lo que pienso que el problema
esta en otro lado. He probado con otra cam y me ocurre lo mismo.
En la pantalla de configuracion de Skype parece que me reconoce una
cam como  camera (/dev/video0). ¿Alguien tiene experiencia con Skype e
Debian? no sea que tenga que ajustar algun permiso en algun fichero o
hacer algun ajuste la verdad no se por donde empezar a mirar.
Muchas gracias por su atención.
Saludos.
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Re: Videoconferencias con Skype en debian 2.6.32-5-686

2013-09-01 Thread Gonzalo L. Campos Medina
Instala cheese y verifica si funciona correctamente tu webcam


El 1 de septiembre de 2013 14:21, Ala de Dragón aladedra...@gmail.comescribió:

 ¡Hola a todos!
 :-D
 Resulta que me gustaria poder hacer una video conferencia con unos
 amigos al otro lado del oceano. Ellos gastan skype e instale la
 version 4.2.0.11-1
 El programa arranca, conecta y puedo enviar mensajes escritos a mis
 amigos, la webcam tiene un micro incorporado y puedo enviar/recibir
 audio con ella, pero no puedo enviar video, solo recibirlo. Chesse me
 permite hacer auto fotos con la cam por lo que pienso que el problema
 esta en otro lado. He probado con otra cam y me ocurre lo mismo.
 En la pantalla de configuracion de Skype parece que me reconoce una
 cam como  camera (/dev/video0). ¿Alguien tiene experiencia con Skype e
 Debian? no sea que tenga que ajustar algun permiso en algun fichero o
 hacer algun ajuste la verdad no se por donde empezar a mirar.
 Muchas gracias por su atención.
 Saludos.
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Re: Videoconferencias con Skype en debian 2.6.32-5-686

2013-09-01 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 14:32:17 -0500
Gonzalo L. Campos Medina gcamp...@gmail.com wrote:

Proba esto a ver http://blog.mamalibre.com.ar/content/webcam-la-fuerza-en-skype


Solo que mostrara con vlc la webcam, luego le indicas al skype que comparta el 
escritorio, 

mas específicamente el área de vlc.

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Re: Pregunta sobre actualizacióm de Iceweasel y Icedove

2013-09-01 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)


El 01/09/13 14:55, Camaleón escribió:

El Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:30:35 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:


El 31/08/13 18:38, Camaleón escribió:

(...)


No se porque hace esto, es como si Debian hubiera abandonado de facto
los programas de mozilla.

Por lo anterior es  por lo que hice la pregunta en este hilo.

Tienen los paquetes un poco dejados, sí, por eso me pasé directamente a
los de Mozilla (Firefox y Thunderbird son dos aplicaciones que uso a
diario y me gusta mantenerlas al día).


Hola Camaleón,

Intento con Debian seguir lo máximo su filosofía todo software libre,
salvo que algún imperativo me lo impida, por ejemplo relación con la
administración, que todavía tiene cosa que sino usas algún privativo, no
te deja actual.

Pues sinceramente, con este asunto de Mozilla y el logotipo no estoy de
acuerdo con su postura. Quizá sería mejor incluir los paquetes de Mozilla
sin modificar dentro de la sección non-free y así todos contentos.


Tampoco comprendí ese problema del logotipo al tener contrib y 
non-free. Como tu dices con lo fácil que hubiera sido ponerlo en 
alguno de estos tipos de paqueteria.





En el caso de Iceweasel a través experimental puedo tener casi la última
versión (Mozilla va por la 24.0 y de experimental es la 23.0).

Mozilla va por la 23 (última versión estable), así que la 24 de Debian
seguramente siga la rama nightly de Mozilla.


Correcto la última estable de Mozilla es la 23.01, me había equivocado, 
tanto en Mozilla como en experimental esta la 23.0





En caso de icedove, mozilla a abandonado a thunderbird en la 17.0,

Lo que ha hecho Mozilla es dejar en manos de la comunidad a Thunderbird
pero no lo ha abandonado.
Esto no lo sabia, creía que la había abandonado por completo. Esto 
significa que puede haber más versiones.

y Debian salvo que te lo bajes de unstable que si esta en la 17.0, tanto
stable como testing esta en la 10.0. No se por qué todavía no ha pasado
a testing.

Debian estable tiene la versión 17, eso es lo raro.
Y raro que es, ese paso a estable, sin pasar por testing. Cuando Wheezy 
era testing la versión era la 10.0, raro es que ahora que es estable 
tenga la 17.0


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Re: Plugin check network para nagios en debian

2013-09-01 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 28 de agosto de 2013 13:37, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 26 de julio de 2013 17:38, Usuario Lista
 usuario.foros.lis...@gmail.com escribió:
 A mi me ocurrió lo mismo, incluso yo monitorizaba la escritura/lectura
 de los discos. Al final opté por utilizar para todo snmp.

 Mírate http://www.centreon.com/. Te hará la vida más fácil.

 El día 26 de julio de 2013 10:45, Maykel Franco
 maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 15 de julio de 2013 16:31, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:50:16 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Hola muy buenas, tengo monitorizado con nagios unas 33 máquinas usando
 el plugin check_nrpe, que para mí es muy cómodo. El tema es que querí
 aun plugin para monitorizar la red, en plan ancho de banda usado...

 He intentado buscar y he probado plugins:

 http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Network-Connections,-Stats-
 and-Bandwidth

 Pero parece difícil de comprender, no he conseguido satisfacerme con
 ninguno...La mayoría están hechos en perl y dan errores, y el único que
 me ha funcionado decentemente es el check_ifstatus aunque la gráfica que
 me refleja siempre es la misma, es decir, cuando nagiosgraph grafea me
 dibuja lineas rectas y siempre en el mismo valor(sólo con este plugin).

 ¿Estás seguro de que check_ifstatus sirve para lo que buscas? Parece un
 complemento muy sencillo que sólo monitoriza el estado (up/down) de las
 interfaces de red :-?

 Alguien sabe de alguno para monitorizar el ancho de banda de la
 interfaz?

 Si dices que os has probado todos y no te vale ninguno, mala cosa.

 Este parece majete:

 http://www.linuxhacker.at/opensource-projects/nagios-plugins/check-
 iftraffic

 Aunque yo preferiría usar los plugins incluidos en el propio nagios
 siempre que sea posible, serán más estbales y estarán más verificados.

 ¿No te sirve el check_snmp o check_mrtgtraf? Este último es que
 comentan en su manual:

 Monitoring Bandwidth / Traffic Rate
 http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/3_0/monitoring-routers.html

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 El check_snmp es el que me quiero evitar, porque tendría que tener
 corriendo en las VM a monitorizar nagios nrpe y snmp...Con nagios nrpe
 creo que me vale...Voy a probar el check_mrtgraf, pero este último, no
 es sólo para router y switches?? Sólo quiero que monitorice el tráfico
 de la interfaz...


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 Gracias por contestar. Centreon lo probé en su día y la verdad es que
 no me gustó mucho, es más, en esta lista me aconsejaron usar nagios a
 capón editando ficheros y la verdad es que me ha ido muy bien. Suelo
 utilizar nrpe pero hay cosillas que sería mejor con snmp...La verdad
 es un poco faena puesto que tendría que tener en las máquinas a
 monitorizar instalado el snmpd y el nagios nrpe...

 Y me gustaría tener una cosa para todo, no me conformo con snmp, hay
 cosas que nagios nrpe puede hacer que snmp no puede...Es una realidad.
 check nrpe es increíble, me gusta mucho, en realidad lo único que hace
 es traerse el resultado de cierto comando ejecutado en la máquina a
 monitorizar, con lo cual te da una flexibilidad bastante potente,
 incluso de poder crearte tus propios scripts.

 Gracias chicos.

 Saludos.


Buenas Camaleón, probé los plugins que me comentastes pero no me gustó
ninguno...Me gustaría monitorizar el tráfico de la interfaz y que
grafe bien así que me gustaría usar el snmp que usa cacti para el
traffic...

Mañana lo probaré y comento, porque para sacar el trafico opr snmp
desde nagios habrá que pasarle un OID específico, sino recuerdo mal...

Saludos y gracias a todos.


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Re: Buscar aplicación para postear en blogs Blogger/Wordpress

2013-09-01 Thread Miguel Matos
2013/9/1 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:19:07 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Saludos a la lista, esto será rápido: ¿alguno(a) estará usando un
 programa que permita redactar/postear post de blogs en Blogger y
 Wordpress?

 (...)

 Pues no, pero tienes una lista maja por aquí:

 Desktop Blogging Software, The Ultimate List
 http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/desktop-blogging-clients-the-ultimate-list/

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La página dice:
Here’s a collection of 20 desktop blogging applications that we’ve
come to know of. Have a look, try some out. Who knows, you might like
to blog from desktop after all. Full list after jump.

BlogJet

Platform: Windows only
Price: Free trial / €29.95
Supports: WordPress, TypePad, Movable Type, Blogger, MSN Live Spaces,
Blogware, BlogHarbor, Squarespace, Drupal, Community Server, etc.
Website | Download

[Paso: sólo para Windows y es de pago]

Deepest Sender

Platform: Firefox, SeaMoney, XULRunner
Price: Free
Supports: LiveJournal, Blogger, WordPress, MSN Live Spaces, meta Weblog
Website | Download

[Paso: funciona sólo con navegadores web, para eso me quedo con las
funciones web]

Flock Browser

Platform: Windows, Mac, Linux
Price: Free
Supports: Blogger, Blogsome, LiveJournal, WordPress, Xanga, Moveable Type
Website | Download

[Paso: no está disponible la aplicación]

Windows Live Writer

Platform: Windows (XP or Vista)
Price: Free
Supports: Windows Live Spaces, Blogger, LiveJournal, TypePad, WordPress Type
Website | Download

[¡REQUETEPASO!]

Ecto

Platform: Windows, Mac
Price: Free Trial / $17.95
Supports: Blogger, Blojsom, Drupal, MovableType, Nucleus, SquareSpace,
TypePad, WordPress, and more
Website | Download

[Paso: plataformas NO COMPATIBLES y es de pago]

Bleezer

Platform: Windows, Mac, Linux
Price: Free
Supports: Blogger, Blojsom, Drupal, MovableType, Nucleus, SquareSpace,
TypePad, WordPress, and more
Website | Download

[Veamos lo que me vende: Blog from anywhere; Work with any blogging
service; WYSIWYG editing; Image upload; Category support; Add tags for
any tag service ;Create custom markup; Spell check; Advertise; Work
online or offline; Did we mention Bleezer is free?

Nada mal, ya se me hace agua la boca. Yo hago esto: :-P===]

BlogTK

Platform: Linux
Price: Free
Supports: Blogger, Movable Type, WordPress
Website | Download

[¡REQUETEPASO!] Si a alguno le sirvió esto, hágamelo saber.

Drivel Journal Editor

Platform: Linux
Price: Free
Supports: LiveJournal, Blogger, MovableType, Advogato, WordPress, Drupal
Website | Download

[Nada mal... ¡ah, wait! Ya está Drivel en Synapitc. Ya me lo instalo.
Y mientras lees esto, ya lo instalé.]

Gnome Blog

Platform: Linux
Price: Free
Supports: Blogger, Advogato, Movable Type, WordPress, LiveJournal, Pyblosxom
Website | Download

[uummm... (pensando pensando), ¿será que le doy una oportunidad?]

Newz Crawler

Platform: Windows
Price: Free Trial / $24.95
Supports: Blogger, Metaweblog, MovableType or LiveJournal API supporting website
Website | Download

[¡REQUETEPASO!]

Performancing ScribeFire

Platform: Firefox
Price: Free
Supports: WordPress, Blogger, Drupal, TypePad, LiveJournal, Windows
Live Spaces and more.
Website | Download

[Paso: por una razón muy evidente]

MarsEdit

Platform: Mac
Price: Free Trial / $29.95
Supports: WordPress, Blogger, TypePad, Movable Type, LiveJournal,
Drupal, and Vox and more.
Website | Download

[Paso, por la razón más que obvia]

ThingamaBlog

Platform: Windows, Mac, Linux
Price: Free
Supports: LiveJournal, Blogger, MovableType, Advogato, WordPress, Drupal
Website | Download

[Creo haberlo visto una vez en Synaptic, ahora ni así. Ni modo, a bajarlo.]

W.Bloggar

Platform: Firefox, Internet Explorer
Price: Free
Supports:WordPress, MovableType, TypePad, Drupal, b2evolution, Nucleus
CMS, Squarespace, Community Server, BlogEngine.NET
Website | Download

[Paso de nuevo.]

RocketPost2

Platform: Windows
Price: Free Trial / $49
Supports:Blogger, Movable Type, WordPress, TypePad, MSN Spaces,
BlogHarbor, Drupal, dasBlog, .Text and SquareSpace
Website | Download

[Paso de nuevo.]

BlogDesk

Platform: Windows
Price: Free
Supports:WordPress, MovableType, Drupal, Serendipity and ExpressionEngine
Website | Download

[Paso de nuevo.]

Post2Blog

Platform: Windows
Price: Free Trial / $14.95
Supports:WordPress, MovableType, Blogger, Tyepad
Website | Download

[Paso de nuevo.]

Qumana

Platform: Windows, Mac
Price: Free Trial / $14.95
Supports:Angelfire, Blogger/Blogspot, BlogHarbor, Blogware, Bryght,
DiaryLand, Drupal, LiveJournal, MovableType, MSN Spaces, Tripod,
TypePad, Roller, SquareSpace, WordPress.com, WordPress.org
Website | Download

[Paso de nuevo.]

Zoundry Raven

Platform: Windows
Price: Free
Supports:Blogger, Movable Type  TypePad, 

Re: Videoconferencias con Skype en debian 2.6.32-5-686

2013-09-01 Thread Javier San Román
On Domingo, 1 de septiembre de 2013 21:21:45 Ala de Dragón escribió:
 ¡Hola a todos!
 
 :-D
 
 Resulta que me gustaria poder hacer una video conferencia con unos
 amigos al otro lado del oceano. Ellos gastan skype e instale la
 version 4.2.0.11-1
 El programa arranca, conecta y puedo enviar mensajes escritos a mis
 amigos, la webcam tiene un micro incorporado y puedo enviar/recibir
 audio con ella, pero no puedo enviar video, solo recibirlo. Chesse me
 permite hacer auto fotos con la cam por lo que pienso que el problema
 esta en otro lado. He probado con otra cam y me ocurre lo mismo.
 En la pantalla de configuracion de Skype parece que me reconoce una
 cam como  camera (/dev/video0). ¿Alguien tiene experiencia con Skype e
 Debian? no sea que tenga que ajustar algun permiso en algun fichero o
 hacer algun ajuste la verdad no se por donde empezar a mirar.
 Muchas gracias por su atención.
 Saludos.

Yo hace tiempo tuve problemas con skype, no recuerdo si de audio o de vídeo, y 
lo solucioné ejecutando Skype así:

sh -c export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1  LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-
gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype

y así lo sigo haciendo (después de ver que iba bien, puse la orden en el 
icono). Puedes probar a ver si funciona (comprueba que las rutas son las 
correctas en tu equipo).


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Re: Software - DIA.

2013-09-01 Thread Fred Maranhão
2013/8/30 Adiel de Lima Ribeiro adiel.netad...@gmail.com:
 Lista, bom dia.
 Tenho o Debian 7 64 bit instalado em minha estação de trabalho, a qual
 eu instalei o Gnome nas opções de instalação do sistema.
 uname -a:
 Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64
 GNU/Linux
 Instalei o software de diagramação DIA via apt-get update, apt-get
 upgrade e apt-get install dia.
 Quando eu vou iniciá-lo pelo menu Applications, o mesmo simplesmente
 abre e fecha logo em seguida.
 Quando o inicio pelo shell, ocorre o seguinte erro:

 The program 'dia-normal' received an X Window System error.
 This probably reflects a bug in the program.
 The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
   (Details: serial 2069 error_code 8 request_code 70 minor_code 0)
   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
 function.)

 É isso um Bug,

parece que sim

 se sim, como contato o desenvolvedor,

abre um bug report. tem um programa que ajuda a abrir bug reports
(para debian). é o reportbug. a abertura de um bug report é um simples
email com uma formatação específica no título e vários campos no corpo
do email. o reportbug faz isto para você.

 se não, o que
 esqueci de configurar?
 Obrigado.

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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 But gnome apps aren't configuring properly; in particular, in the menu
 bar of gedit (and I've seen it elsewhere I think), all the menus are
 jammed up against each other - no nice spacing between them. Anyone
 know what I ought to install to make these gnome menus work properly
 with XFCE4 ?

Could you please post a link to a screenshot? I experience Xfce doing a
better job for GTK + Qt apps than GNOME did and Mate does. For GNOME and
Mate Qt apps were/are an issue. Perhaps the space between the menus is
less wide, than it is using GNOME and I'm simply used to it, but at
least there is a little bit space between the drop down menu titles in
the menu bar of GNOME apps, such as gedit and evolution.



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Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
There are a lot of other good (and also lots of bad) DEs, but Xfce4 is
the DE that is most similar to GNOME2 + stable + in official
repositories of Debian and many other distros. I suspect the OP wants
GNOME2, so recommending KDE (a good DE) or recommending Fluxbox and LXDE
(good DEs too) isn't good. To recommend something unstable as
Enlightenment or something that comes with similar issues as GNOME 3,
e.g. Cinnamon or something that isn't in official repositories from
Debian and most other distros, e.g. Mate isn't good too. IMO the OP
should test Xfce4. Just to name each DE we know and like isn't a help
for the OP.

2 Cents,
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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
 On 9/1/13, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote:
 I'm just going to revert to squeeze, that desktop actually worked.

 Another vote for xfce.  I switched to it quite a while ago, and have
 been happy since.

 I find it adequate; ~8months now; I am however reasonable with the command 
 line.

 I don't like mousepad editor however, and I don't gedit. So I installed gedit.

I think, but I am not sure, that mousepad is in there because it is
small and doesn't have a lot of dependencies. So it fits small
footprint installs.

Can't imagine any other reason for including it.

 But gnome apps aren't configuring properly; in particular, in the menu
 bar of gedit (and I've seen it elsewhere I think), all the menus are
 jammed up against each other - no nice spacing between them. Anyone
 know what I ought to install to make these gnome menus work properly
 with XFCE4 ?

Odd. I haven't seen that with gedit, neither in English nor Japanese sessions.

Default fonts issue maybe?

I've been looking at geany, and it looks interesting functionally, but
I'm not at all sold on it. Don't like lots of tool panes all over.
It's part of the reason I can't quite bring myself to use either
netbeans or eclipse regularly.

gedit works well enough for me, even though I pretty much keep gnome
off my system.

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Re: Does linux-image-3.10-2-amd64 package must have kernel-headers on SID?

2013-09-01 Thread Csanyi Pal
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:

 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:40:24AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on my Debian GNU/Linux SID when I install the
 linux-image-3.10-2-amd64 package
 
 it complains for kernel headers, it can not find.

 kernel headers? or do you mean linux-headers?

 There is:
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-headers-3.10-2-all-amd64

 As a user of Sid, you should know how to find this out on your own.

 What to do: to install, or not to install linux-image-3.10-2-amd64
 package? 
 
 I'm currently running linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64.

 Is linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 not working for you? IOW, why the need/urge
 to upgrade to the latest kernel?

Why not?

However, I find the linux-headers-3.10-2-all-amd64 packages and did
install it.

So now I'm running the
3.10-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.7-1 (2013-08-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux

kernel. :)

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Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi,

I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID.

My sources.list is:
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main
# deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main

# Bitlbee
deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./

# GNUstep
deb http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/wheezy/amd64/ ./

Yesterday when I want to install the 'kazam' package, I get message in
the aptitude interface:

liborc-0.4-dev depends on liborc-0.4-0 (= 1:0.4.17-2)

and this is a broken package now.

I get an advice from the kazam's package maintainer Andrew
Starr-Bochicchio: 
quote
You seem to have a mix of packages from both unstable and testing
installed. liborc, which is an indirect dependency of kazam, currently
has different versions in unstable and testing. Starting from a fresh
unstable chroot, I can install kazam with no problems.
/quote

Now, how can I set up my apt system to avoid such a conflict?

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Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 08:59 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID.
 
 My sources.list is:
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
 
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main
 # deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main
 
 # Bitlbee
 deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./
 
 # GNUstep
 deb http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/wheezy/amd64/ ./
 
 Yesterday when I want to install the 'kazam' package, I get message in
 the aptitude interface:
 
 liborc-0.4-dev depends on liborc-0.4-0 (= 1:0.4.17-2)
 
 and this is a broken package now.
 
 I get an advice from the kazam's package maintainer Andrew
 Starr-Bochicchio: 
 quote
 You seem to have a mix of packages from both unstable and testing
 installed. liborc, which is an indirect dependency of kazam, currently
 has different versions in unstable and testing. Starting from a fresh
 unstable chroot, I can install kazam with no problems.
 /quote
 
 Now, how can I set up my apt system to avoid such a conflict?

When using apt-pinning, you must ensure compatibility of packages by
yourself since Debian does not guarantee it. -
https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences#Pinning

So the answer is that you can avoid such a conflict by knowing what
you're doing.

If there's a reason that you do such a mix, than please explain it, so
we might be able to help you, to do it by another way. If you're only
reason should be

On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 08:39 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Why not?

then take an educated guess.


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Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Are you aware that you do a mix?

On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 08:59 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 My sources.list is:
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

unstable, aka sid

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

testing, aka jessie

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

alpha testing stage. Users shouldn't be using packages from here,
because they can be dangerous and harmful even for the most experienced
people - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental

 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main

Third party for unstable, aka sid

[...]

Do you think that most experienced people would ask the questions you
did as?


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Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS: The subject Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and
experimental isn't an evidence that you're really aware that you
understand that you mix and what it does mean to mix. Regarding to your
question you completely don't know what you're doing.



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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joe
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 12:54:07 +1000
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:

 On 9/1/13, Joe Pfeiffer pfeif...@cs.nmsu.edu wrote:
  I'm just going to revert to squeeze, that desktop actually worked.
 
  Another vote for xfce.  I switched to it quite a while ago, and have
  been happy since.
 
 I find it adequate; ~8months now; I am however reasonable with the
 command line.
 
 I don't like mousepad editor however, and I don't gedit. So I
 installed gedit.
 
 But gnome apps aren't configuring properly; in particular, in the menu
 bar of gedit (and I've seen it elsewhere I think), all the menus are
 jammed up against each other - no nice spacing between them. Anyone
 know what I ought to install to make these gnome menus work properly
 with XFCE4 ?
 
 

I have gedit working fine on Xfce on sid, but I switched from Gnome at
the time of 3, and haven't quite dared to purge everything with 'gnome'
in the name, so there may be something else involved.

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Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID.

 My sources.list is:
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main
 # deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main

 # Bitlbee
 deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./

 # GNUstep
 deb http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/wheezy/amd64/ ./

 Yesterday when I want to install the 'kazam' package, I get message in
 the aptitude interface:

 liborc-0.4-dev depends on liborc-0.4-0 (= 1:0.4.17-2)

 and this is a broken package now.

 I get an advice from the kazam's package maintainer Andrew
 Starr-Bochicchio:
 quote
 You seem to have a mix of packages from both unstable and testing
 installed. liborc, which is an indirect dependency of kazam, currently
 has different versions in unstable and testing. Starting from a fresh
 unstable chroot, I can install kazam with no problems.
 /quote

 Now, how can I set up my apt system to avoid such a conflict?

Have you run apt-get update and {,dist-}upgraded?

Are you using pinning? Are the liborc-* packages pinned to testing?

What's the output of:

apt-conf dump | grep Release
apt-cache policy
apt-cache policy kazam
apt-cache policy liborc-0.4-0
apt-cache policy liborc-0.4-dev

(You should add http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main to
/etc/apt/sources.list.)


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Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Weaver

On Sat, August 31, 2013 11:19 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 There are a lot of other good (and also lots of bad) DEs, but Xfce4 is
 the DE that is most similar to GNOME2 + stable + in official
 repositories of Debian and many other distros. I suspect the OP wants
 GNOME2, so recommending KDE (a good DE) or recommending Fluxbox and LXDE
 (good DEs too) isn't good. To recommend something unstable as
 Enlightenment or something that comes with similar issues as GNOME 3,
 e.g. Cinnamon or something that isn't in official repositories from
 Debian and most other distros, e.g. Mate isn't good too. IMO the OP
 should test Xfce4. Just to name each DE we know and like isn't a help
 for the OP.

Actually, Ralf, I've been using Enlightenment for a good year now and find
it as solid as a rock.

Vastly improved, in that regard, from the old days of all the 'burnished
metal finishes and etc.
Kind regards,

Weaver.

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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Erwan David
Le 01/09/2013 11:10, Dominique Asselineau a écrit :
 François TOURDE wrote on Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 10:00:55AM +0200
 Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
 Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:

 Bonsoir,

 C'est possible quand on est sur un réseau statique mais avec une réseau
 en dhcp ça ne me semble pas possible, non ?
 Idem qu'en statique, sauf que la ligne de l'interface est du style

 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
pre-up /usr/local/sbin/firewall.sh
 Et sinon, il y a comme répondu déjà le répertoire if-up.d dans
 /etc/network/
 Désolé, j'ai oublié de préciser qu'il s'agissait d'un VPS qui a donc
 une IP statique.

 À propos du rép. /etc/network/if-up-d/, le rép.
 /etc/network/if-pre-up-d/ ne serait-il pas plus approprié ?

 Comme il s'agit d'un VPS sur lequel j'ai plusieurs services (Apache2,
 MySQL uniquement en accès local, SMTP), la solution /ec/rc?.d/ ne
 serait-elle pas plus adaptée/précise ?  En forçant l'exécution des
 règles iptables, avant le démarrage du réseau à l'aide des dépendances
 gérées par insserv.



Et ces règles ne dépendent de rien d'autre ? Par exemple chez moi j'ai
une interface tun0 pour un VPN? qui n'existera que si le VPN est lancé...


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Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/31/2013 10:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

 Especially as I explicitly emphasized wanting to know bus width.

I find it curious Richard that you emphasize this, given that the CPU
bus width in isolation is meaningless.

Every x86 CPU since the original Pentium that shipped in 1993, up to the
Opteron which shipped in 2003, had a 64 bit wide data bus, clocked from
66 to 266MHz, including double/quad pumped buses.  Throughput has varied
from the first to the last model from 528MB/s to 8.5GB/s.

In the post Opteron era the memory buses are decoupled from the system
interconnect, the latter no longer being a bus but a apir of
bidirectional point-point serial links.  Modern CPUs have 2 to 4x 64bit
wide memory buses clocked at up to 1600 MHz, for a combined DRAM
bandwidth of 25.6 to 51.2GB/s.  The system interconnect links,
HyperTransport in the case of AMD CPUs, provide from 3.2GB/s to 12.8GB/s
one way.

On CPUs shipped since 2003 in the case of AMD, later for Intel, there is
no singular bus width.  There are 2, 3, or 4 memory buses, and a
system interconnect, all clocked at different speeds on different vendor
models.

So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width is relevant to
anything.

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Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 02:15 -0700, Weaver wrote:
 On Sat, August 31, 2013 11:19 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  There are a lot of other good (and also lots of bad) DEs, but Xfce4 is
  the DE that is most similar to GNOME2 + stable + in official
  repositories of Debian and many other distros. I suspect the OP wants
  GNOME2, so recommending KDE (a good DE) or recommending Fluxbox and LXDE
  (good DEs too) isn't good. To recommend something unstable as
  Enlightenment or something that comes with similar issues as GNOME 3,
  e.g. Cinnamon or something that isn't in official repositories from
  Debian and most other distros, e.g. Mate isn't good too. IMO the OP
  should test Xfce4. Just to name each DE we know and like isn't a help
  for the OP.
 
 Actually, Ralf, I've been using Enlightenment for a good year now and find
 it as solid as a rock.
 
 Vastly improved, in that regard, from the old days of all the 'burnished
 metal finishes and etc.

My apologize Weaver,

indeed it might be more than a year ago, that I tested it the last time.
So ok, it now is stable. In the old days it wasn't that close to GNOME 2
as Xfce is, I still suspect that Xfce is the best recommendation as a
replacement for GNOME. I might be mistaken with this too ;).

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett

Stan Hoeppner wrote:

On 8/31/2013 10:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:


Especially as I explicitly emphasized wanting to know bus width.


I find it curious Richard that you emphasize this, given that the CPU
bus width in isolation is meaningless.

Every x86 CPU since the original Pentium that shipped in 1993, up to the
Opteron which shipped in 2003, had a 64 bit wide data bus, clocked from
66 to 266MHz, including double/quad pumped buses.  Throughput has varied
from the first to the last model from 528MB/s to 8.5GB/s.

In the post Opteron era the memory buses are decoupled from the system
interconnect, the latter no longer being a bus but a apir of
bidirectional point-point serial links.  Modern CPUs have 2 to 4x 64bit
wide memory buses clocked at up to 1600 MHz, for a combined DRAM
bandwidth of 25.6 to 51.2GB/s.  The system interconnect links,
HyperTransport in the case of AMD CPUs, provide from 3.2GB/s to 12.8GB/s
one way.

On CPUs shipped since 2003 in the case of AMD, later for Intel, there is
no singular bus width.  There are 2, 3, or 4 memory buses, and a
system interconnect, all clocked at different speeds on different vendor
models.

So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width is relevant to
anything.



'Cause I'm so old I remember introduction of 8085 and a Z80A was 
considered a speed demon at 2 MHz ;/


If I understand correctly some processors can run 32 bit OSes but 
not any 64 bit OS.





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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 01 September 2013 10:26:22 Erwan David wrote:
 Le 01/09/2013 11:10, Dominique Asselineau a écrit :
  François TOURDE wrote on Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 10:00:55AM +0200
 
  Le 15949ième jour après Epoch,
 
  Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:
  Bonsoir,
[snip]
 Et ces règles ne dépendent de rien d'autre ? Par exemple chez moi j'ai
 une interface tun0 pour un VPN? qui n'existera que si le VPN est lancé...

This is an English language list!

Lisi


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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Jape Person
On 09/01/2013 02:22 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
...
 
 I've been looking at geany, and it looks interesting functionally, but
 I'm not at all sold on it. Don't like lots of tool panes all over.
 It's part of the reason I can't quite bring myself to use either
 netbeans or eclipse regularly.
 
...

As an aside, thought I'd mention that geany's interface is very highly
configurable. It's easy enough through the Preferences dialog to eliminate side
panes, bottom panes, etc. -- or to relocate them. You can make this editor's
interface as simple as mousepad's.

JP


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root user

2013-09-01 Thread Roman Gelfand
I am running wheezy with postfix mail server.  It appears that ll
system emails are going to r...@domain.com.  I don't remember if I set
it up when installing os or when installing postfix.

How can I change this address from root@domain to some other email address?

Thanks in advance


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Re: How to get rid of an entry in grub?

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 02:39:09PM -0700, David Guntner wrote:
 Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
  On Sat 31 Aug 2013 at 11:28:53 -0700, David Guntner wrote:
  
  Well, I guess that's the default configuration.  *I* didn't tell it
  anything. :-)  Remember, I started this with, I've used lilo all my
  
  Of course you did! Did someone else issue the command 'update-grub'?
  What you may mean is that you did not realise the consequences.
 
 Apparently, we have different definitions of someone telling something
 to do a specific thing.  My definition of I told it to do a specific
 something involves my actually editing a config file somewhere, to
 define what I want it to do.  Running the program simple tells it to do
 what it's supposed to do, but *I* did not define that action unless I
 made the afore-mentioned change.

I agree with you here. Although, it could keep boozy philosophers
entertained for hours ... drink you under the table ... socrates
himself was particularly missed, a lovely little thinker but a bugger
when he's p*@%ed! 

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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 But gnome apps aren't configuring properly; in particular, in the menu
 bar of gedit (and I've seen it elsewhere I think), all the menus are
 jammed up against each other - no nice spacing between them. Anyone
 know what I ought to install to make these gnome menus work properly
 with XFCE4 ?

 Could you please post a link to a screenshot? I experience Xfce doing a

http://upmart.org/gedit-menus-example.jpg
It's about 1.9KiB, just a cropped image of the menus and top part of toolbar.

 better job for GTK + Qt apps than GNOME did and Mate does. For GNOME and
 Mate Qt apps were/are an issue. Perhaps the space between the menus is
 less wide, than it is using GNOME and I'm simply used to it, but at
 least there is a little bit space between the drop down menu titles in
 the menu bar of GNOME apps, such as gedit and evolution.

I only ever installed xfce, not gnome. Manually installed gedit. I'm
guessing there's some libs to isntall...

TIA
Zenaan


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Re: root user

2013-09-01 Thread st

Roman Gelfand wrote:


I am running wheezy with postfix mail server.  It appears that ll
system emails are going to r...@domain.com.  I don't remember if I set
it up when installing os or when installing postfix.

How can I change this address from root@domain to some other email address?


Edit /etc/aliases to add a line saying,

root:   youraddr...@of.choi.ce

and run the newaliaces command.

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
 
  Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
  e.g.
  Plug it in
  select connect to PC on phone. 
  then
  # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
  (get some error msgs)
 
 It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb

Did you select connect storage to PC on phone like I said?
(That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
You have to enable USB debugging on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
under settings --- applications --- Development before connect
storage to PC will be allowed.

THEN
# mount /dev/sdb /mnt

You should see something similar to:
[4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

  then
  # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
 
 and this gives me special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist

Right, of course. Because the above failed.

You can see with the tab key:
root@tal:~# mount /dev/sdTAB
You should see sdb1 AFTER doing mount /dev/sdb /mnt

Then the contents will be available under /mnt

(I'm presuming you know the basics of moving files from the command
line.)

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Re: Does linux-image-3.10-2-amd64 package must have kernel-headers on SID?

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 08:39:45AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
 
  Is linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 not working for you? IOW, why the need/urge
  to upgrade to the latest kernel?
 
 Why not?

That is not an answer, but another question.

But in answering your question, a few reasons spring to mind:
 * Your original post is one.
 * Some hardware may start misbehaving
 * Some third party apps could start misbehaving¹
 

¹ This has happened to me. The folding at home client throws out errors
when running the 3.9 kernel, but works fine with the 3.2 kernel.

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Re: tty1-6, gdm3, xdm, gnome, Gigabyte mb - many problems, little help

2013-09-01 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 08/31/2013 02:21 PM, Thomas H. George wrote:
 Still trying to solve this problem I ran two straces.

 Summary: The system will boot as xdm with 6 virtual terminal, no x
 window
 OR
 The system will boot as gdm3 with a gnome desktop, no virtual terminals.
 
 Somewhere a wire is crossed.

Have you tried apt-get install --reinstall xdm gdm3  or tried another dm
like lightdm?  Sometimes simple, works.  Sometimes not. :)

Regards,
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Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Ralph Katz
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On 08/31/2013 10:21 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
 Thod Motte tmo...@mail.com writes:
 
 Thanks to debian and Gnome 3 for making my desktop as buggy and unstable as 
 Windows 95 was in 1997 and less
 customizable.

 I'm just going to revert to squeeze, that desktop actually worked.
 
 Another vote for xfce.  I switched to it quite a while ago, and have
 been happy since.
 

Add my vote for xfce with lightdm.  It's all I use.

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What has happened to proof reading? (was ... Re: root user)

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 11:05:12PM +0700, st wrote:
 
 Edit /etc/aliases to add a line saying,
 
 root: youraddr...@of.choi.ce
 
 and run the newaliaces command.

Hey, c'mon guys! Can you please check what you type BEFORE hitting send.

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Re: What has happened to proof reading? (was ... Re: root user)

2013-09-01 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 05:40:22AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 11:05:12PM +0700, st wrote:
  
  Edit /etc/aliases to add a line saying,
  
  root:   youraddr...@of.choi.ce
  
  and run the newaliaces command.
 
 Hey, c'mon guys! Can you please check what you type BEFORE hitting send.
 
to clarify, that should be 
newaliases

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Re: Does linux-image-3.10-2-amd64 package must have kernel-headers on SID?

2013-09-01 Thread Csanyi Pal
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:

 On Sun, Sep 01, 2013 at 08:39:45AM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz writes:
 
  Is linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 not working for you? IOW, why the need/urge
  to upgrade to the latest kernel?
 
 Why not?

 That is not an answer, but another question.

 But in answering your question, a few reasons spring to mind:
  * Your original post is one.
  * Some hardware may start misbehaving
  * Some third party apps could start misbehaving¹
  

 ¹ This has happened to me. The folding at home client throws out errors
 when running the 3.9 kernel, but works fine with the 3.2 kernel.

I'm running now 3.10-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.7-1 (2013-08-17) x86_64
GNU/Linux kernel.

The 3.9 kernel is not a stable version, I think.

I tried out the 3.9 kernel too, and have been uninstalled it right
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Re: Setting up apt when have mixture of testing, sid and experimental

2013-09-01 Thread Csanyi Pal
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 2:59 AM, Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID.

 My sources.list is:
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main
 # deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main

 # Bitlbee
 deb http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./

 # GNUstep
 deb http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/wheezy/amd64/ ./

 Yesterday when I want to install the 'kazam' package, I get message in
 the aptitude interface:

 liborc-0.4-dev depends on liborc-0.4-0 (= 1:0.4.17-2)

 and this is a broken package now.

 I get an advice from the kazam's package maintainer Andrew
 Starr-Bochicchio:
 quote
 You seem to have a mix of packages from both unstable and testing
 installed. liborc, which is an indirect dependency of kazam, currently
 has different versions in unstable and testing. Starting from a fresh
 unstable chroot, I can install kazam with no problems.
 /quote

 Now, how can I set up my apt system to avoid such a conflict?

 Have you run apt-get update and {,dist-}upgraded?

 Are you using pinning? Are the liborc-* packages pinned to testing?

 What's the output of:

 apt-conf dump | grep Release

$ apt-conf dump | grep Release
bash: apt-conf: command not found

$ apt-config dump | grep Release
gives me nothin as output.

 apt-cache policy

Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 500 http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main i386
 Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,n=stable,l=Google,c=main
 origin dl.google.com
 500 http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main amd64
 Packages
 release v=1.0,o=Google, Inc.,a=stable,n=stable,l=Google,c=main
 origin dl.google.com
 500 http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/wheezy/amd64/ ./
 Packages
 release c=
 origin coyote.octets.fr
 500 http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/testing/amd64/ ./ Packages
 release c=
 origin code.bitlbee.org
 500 http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid/main i386 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
 Packages,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin www.deb-multimedia.org
 500 http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid/main amd64 Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
 Packages,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
 origin www.deb-multimedia.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/main Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=main
 origin security.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/non-free amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main amd64 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=testing,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/main Translation-hu
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/main Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/non-free i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/contrib i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid/main i386 Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 

Re: change alt tab alt tilde behavior in gnome

2013-09-01 Thread Antti Talsta
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:57:38PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

 In gnome, alt-tab moves across applications, alt-tilde moves across
 windows How do I change the alt+tab behavior such that the focus moves
 across all the windows, irrespective of the applications they belong
 to? Is there some other key combination that achieves this?

Windows alt tab extension does something like that.

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/38/windows-alt-tab/

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Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Richard Owlett a écrit :
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width is relevant to
 anything.
 
 If I understand correctly some processors can run 32 bit OSes but 
 not any 64 bit OS.

This has nothing to do with bus width.


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Re: firewall à base d'iptables au démarrage (/etc/init.d/)

2013-09-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Lisi Reisz a écrit :
 On Sunday 01 September 2013 10:26:22 Erwan David wrote:
 Et ces règles ne dépendent de rien d'autre ? Par exemple chez moi j'ai
 une interface tun0 pour un VPN? qui n'existera que si le VPN est lancé...
 
 This is an English language list!

Looks like that post escaped from its thread in debian-user-french.


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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
 On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 But gnome apps aren't configuring properly; in particular, in the menu
 bar of gedit (and I've seen it elsewhere I think), all the menus are
 jammed up against each other - no nice spacing between them. Anyone
 know what I ought to install to make these gnome menus work properly
 with XFCE4 ?

 Could you please post a link to a screenshot? I experience Xfce doing a

 http://upmart.org/gedit-menus-example.jpg
 It's about 1.9KiB, just a cropped image of the menus and top part of toolbar.

Hmm. I think I have seen that kind of thing once, some years ago, but
not recently. I think it was with a less stable version of LXDE
(running a Fedora security tools live USB).

 better job for GTK + Qt apps than GNOME did and Mate does. For GNOME and
 Mate Qt apps were/are an issue. Perhaps the space between the menus is
 less wide, than it is using GNOME and I'm simply used to it, but at
 least there is a little bit space between the drop down menu titles in
 the menu bar of GNOME apps, such as gedit and evolution.

 I only ever installed xfce, not gnome. Manually installed gedit. I'm
 guessing there's some libs to isntall...

 TIA
 Zenaan

Manually, as in ...?

Downloading from https://projects.gnome.org/gedit/ and unpacking and
installing, or even compiling and installing the source?

Doing something similar with the .deb packages?

Or as in using apt-get install or synaptic, or what, exactly?

apt-get and synaptic should pull in the dependencies unless you tell
it not to. If you told it not to install some of the dependencies, you
might try doing a re-install.

The dependencies for gedit made me wince a bit the first time I pulled
it into a relatively pristine XFCE, but when you start pulling in GUI
tools, you'll find that a lot of them depend on the gnome libraries.
But you're not pulling in the entire desktop, by any means.

Synaptic is pretty convenient about that. When you select for install,
it will tell you which dependencies it's also pulling in, and then
when you tell it to go ahead, it will show the sizes. My memory is
that straight apt-get gives you the information and the chance to back
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Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote:
 Richard Owlett a écrit :
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width is relevant to
 anything.

 If I understand correctly some processors can run 32 bit OSes but
 not any 64 bit OS.

 This has nothing to do with bus width.

Not an entirely separate issue from the address bus width, however.

:-P

Just for fun, I looked at what this box tells me with lscpu and
cat-ting /proc/cpuinfo. The relevant lines in the reply are, for
lscpu,

CPU op-mode(s):32-bit

which tells me that it can run OSses in 32-bit mode, I think. (We
could talk about data and address register width, but it's more to the
point to talk about OSses running in 32-bit mode.)

and, for cat /proc/info

address sizes : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual

which tells me I should be able to run PAE. (I am running PAE.)

And, if the motherboard had enough address lines, I should be able to
put in more than 2G of RAM, but the manual says just 2G. So, maybe
not.

Some things in there that might be worth a try if I had the time.

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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/2/13, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
 On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

 better job for GTK + Qt apps than GNOME did and Mate does. For GNOME and
 Mate Qt apps were/are an issue. Perhaps the space between the menus is
 less wide, than it is using GNOME and I'm simply used to it, but at
 least there is a little bit space between the drop down menu titles in
 the menu bar of GNOME apps, such as gedit and evolution.

 I only ever installed xfce, not gnome. Manually installed gedit. I'm
 guessing there's some libs to isntall...

 Manually, as in ...?

:) Thanks, even apt and aptitude have differences which can be relevant.

 Or as in using apt-get install or synaptic, or what, exactly?

apt-get install gedit

 apt-get and synaptic should pull in the dependencies unless you tell
 it not to. If you told it not to install some of the dependencies, you
 might try doing a re-install.

just ran apt-get purge gedit , apt-get install gedit
same problem


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Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
 On 9/2/13, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
 On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

 better job for GTK + Qt apps than GNOME did and Mate does. For GNOME and
 Mate Qt apps were/are an issue. Perhaps the space between the menus is
 less wide, than it is using GNOME and I'm simply used to it, but at
 least there is a little bit space between the drop down menu titles in
 the menu bar of GNOME apps, such as gedit and evolution.

 I only ever installed xfce, not gnome. Manually installed gedit. I'm
 guessing there's some libs to isntall...

 Manually, as in ...?

 :) Thanks, even apt and aptitude have differences which can be relevant.

 Or as in using apt-get install or synaptic, or what, exactly?

 apt-get install gedit

 apt-get and synaptic should pull in the dependencies unless you tell
 it not to. If you told it not to install some of the dependencies, you
 might try doing a re-install.

 just ran apt-get purge gedit , apt-get install gedit
 same problem

Well, it might be worth playing playing with the appearance settings
-- edit menu, settings or preferences. (I forget which in English.)
Try changing the font while you're at it.

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Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/1/2013 8:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 On 8/31/2013 10:00 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

 Especially as I explicitly emphasized wanting to know bus width.

 I find it curious Richard that you emphasize this, given that the CPU
 bus width in isolation is meaningless.

 Every x86 CPU since the original Pentium that shipped in 1993, up to the
 Opteron which shipped in 2003, had a 64 bit wide data bus, clocked from
 66 to 266MHz, including double/quad pumped buses.  Throughput has varied
 from the first to the last model from 528MB/s to 8.5GB/s.

 In the post Opteron era the memory buses are decoupled from the system
 interconnect, the latter no longer being a bus but a apir of
 bidirectional point-point serial links.  Modern CPUs have 2 to 4x 64bit
 wide memory buses clocked at up to 1600 MHz, for a combined DRAM
 bandwidth of 25.6 to 51.2GB/s.  The system interconnect links,
 HyperTransport in the case of AMD CPUs, provide from 3.2GB/s to 12.8GB/s
 one way.

 On CPUs shipped since 2003 in the case of AMD, later for Intel, there is
 no singular bus width.  There are 2, 3, or 4 memory buses, and a
 system interconnect, all clocked at different speeds on different vendor
 models.

 So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width is relevant to
 anything.

 
 'Cause I'm so old I remember introduction of 8085 and a Z80A was
 considered a speed demon at 2 MHz ;/
 
 If I understand correctly some processors can run 32 bit OSes but not
 any 64 bit OS.

You're confusing register width with data bus width.  Register width
dictates which binary instruction sets can be executed.

The width of the data bus(es) simply dictates how much data you can move
per unit time to DRAM and peripherals.  There is no correlation between
register width and data bus width.

Using examples from an era that you're more familiar with, the Intel
8086 had a 16 bit register width and a 16 bit data bus to the system.
Intel shortly thereafter released the 8088 which ditched the 16 bit data
bus for an 8 bit bus.  This was done to reduce the cost of the system,
and as a result reduced IO performance by 50%.  Intel did this again
with the 80386sx, taking the 80386 CPU with a 32 bit register width and
a 32 bit data bus, and reducing the data bus to 16 bits, again to reduce
system costs.

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Re: change alt tab alt tilde behavior in gnome

2013-09-01 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Antti Talsta atal...@criss.dyndns.orgwrote:

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:57:38PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

  In gnome, alt-tab moves across applications, alt-tilde moves across
  windows How do I change the alt+tab behavior such that the focus moves
  across all the windows, irrespective of the applications they belong
  to? Is there some other key combination that achieves this?

 Windows alt tab extension does something like that.

 https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/38/windows-alt-tab/


It is exactly what I am looking for. FWIW, in the settings menu of the
extension, I selected the Workspace  Icons  with Move current selection
to the front before closing the popup checked. Thanks for the link.

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[Solved] Re: Not able to use netbeans on debian 7.1 wheezy

2013-09-01 Thread Anubhav Yadav
On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 09:08 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
  
  Maybe you have been bitten by this bug:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718645
  
  
 I can see a solution here
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/326933/netbeans-broken-after-openjdk-update
 then can somebody tell me the command to downgrade the icedtea related
 to wheezy, the solution is given with respect to ubuntu.
 
I ran the following command, and its fixed

root@Innovator:/home/neo1691# apt-get install
openjdk-6-jre=6b27-1.12.5-1 openjdk-6-jre-headless=6b27-1.12.5-1
icedtea-6-jre-cacao=6b27-1.12.5-1 openjdk-6-jre-lib=6b27-1.12.5-1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
  icedtea-plugin sun-java6-fonts fonts-ipafont-gothic
fonts-ipafont-mincho ttf-wqy-microhei ttf-wqy-zenhei ttf-indic-fonts
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  default-jdk icedtea-6-jre-jamvm openjdk-6-jdk
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  icedtea-6-jre-cacao openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-headless
openjdk-6-jre-lib
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 downgraded, 3 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 32.6 MB of archives.
After this operation, 36.7 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y

And its solved!! :) 

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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet

2013-09-01 Thread Paul Gevers
On 01-09-13 01:33, Sander Devrieze wrote:
 Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:

Typisch horen fatsoenlijk pakketten een optie te hebben om testen niet
te draaien. Misschien werkt dat voor jou (al is het natuurlijk de vraag
of het pakket kapot is of de test. (Heb je alle build en test
dependencies geïnstalleerd?)

DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck

Zie
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules-options

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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet voor cups:squeeze

2013-09-01 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2013-09-01 om 07:54 schreef Geert Stappers:
 Op 2013-09-01 om 07:41 schreef Geert Stappers:
  Op 2013-09-01 om 01:33 schreef Sander Devrieze:
knip/ 
   Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:
   cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf' -
   exiting!
  
  Oh chips, dat is een FTBFS, fails to build from source.
  Als ie nog niet gemeld is, dan ga ik dat doen. Ookal betreft het oldstable.
  
  
   Waiting for scheduler to become ready...
   
   Bestand /tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf bestaat en is leesbaar. Iemand een
   oplossing hiervoor?
  
  Dadelijk kijk ik of het voor mij reproduceerbaar is.
 
 Niet in mijn eerste poging. Dadelijk een tweede poging om te reproduceren.
 

Die volgende poging ging ook goed.
Ookal leek die poging meer op die van de original poster.
Dit is wat ik deed:

  apt-get source cups
  cd cups-1.4.4
  wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b

Toelichting:
* package devscripts is ge-installeerd
* ook de build dependencies  ( `apt-get build-depends cups` )
* de patch  http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch
  bevat de wijziging waar het om gaat
* op een i686 VPS  (een armel is in bestelling)


Terug naar de
   Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:
   cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf' -
   exiting!

Doe het nog keer. Nu met squeezeCupsPlus.patch en logging m.b.v. `script`.
Dat in command line syntax

   script  pogingZoveel.transcript
   apt-get source cups
   cd cups-1.4.4
   wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
   dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
   exit # om script te verlaten, om logging te stoppen


De verbetering zit in de cleane integratie van de patch.
En mocht de verbetering er niet zijn,
dan hebben we goede in 'pogingZoveel.transcript'


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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet

2013-09-01 Thread Sander Devrieze
Hiermee lukt het maar printen met de resulterende cups lukt nog steeds niet
altijd: bij sommige prints is pdftops heel lang bezig en uiteindelijk krijg
ik garbage uit de printer...

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Op 1 september 2013 08:08 schreef Paul Gevers elb...@debian.org:

 On 01-09-13 01:33, Sander Devrieze wrote:
  Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:

 Typisch horen fatsoenlijk pakketten een optie te hebben om testen niet
 te draaien. Misschien werkt dat voor jou (al is het natuurlijk de vraag
 of het pakket kapot is of de test. (Heb je alle build en test
 dependencies geïnstalleerd?)

 DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck

 Zie

 http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules-options

 Paul





Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet voor cups:squeeze

2013-09-01 Thread Sander Devrieze
Op 1 september 2013 10:40 schreef Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl:

 snip
 Terug naar de
Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:
cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf'
 -
exiting!

 Doe het nog keer. Nu met squeezeCupsPlus.patch en logging m.b.v.
 `script`.
 Dat in command line syntax

 Ok, ik probeer het deze namiddag zo nog eens (compilen duurt erg lang en
ik moet weldra weg).


FWD: FTWCA DebConf15 in mechelen

2013-09-01 Thread Geert Stappers
Hallo,

Eerder was er http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-dutch/2013/08/msg00029.html
over een bid voor Debian Conferentie in Mechelen.

Zo'n een bid is een intekening.
Vergelijk het met Olympische Spelen, daar wordt van te voren
ook ingetekend voor de spelen na de volgende spelen.

Voor een debconf hoef je geen nieuwe stadions te bouwen.
Andere voorbereidingen zijn wel nodig.
Mocht daar aan willen werken, dan kan nog steeds.

De volgende fase is het verder uitwerken van the bid.
Dat is tot ergens in december 2013. De intekeningen worden
dan beoordeeld. Eind 2013, begin 2014 wordt er dan een
beslissing genomen.

Doe voorbeeld met deze informatie
en denk nog eens aan Debian Diversity Statement

  The Debian Project welcomes and encourages participation by everyone.

  No matter how you identify yourself or how others perceive you: we
  welcome you. We welcome contributions from everyone as long as they
  interact constructively with our community.

  While much of the work for our project is technical in nature, we value
  and encourage contributions from those with expertise in other areas,
  and welcome them into our community.

  http://www.debian.org/intro/diversity


Dan deze verse forward:
 
- Forwarded message from Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org -

Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:05:51 +0200
From: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org
To: debconf-disc...@lists.debconf.org
Subject: Re: [Debconf-discuss] FTWCA DebConf15 in Germany^Wmechelen
Message-ID: 5223036f.3050...@debian.org
Organization: Debian
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130630 
Icedove/17.0.7

On 29-08-13 00:23, martin f krafft wrote:
 #debconf15-germany
 http://lists.debconf.net/mailman/listinfo/debconf15-germany
 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/Germany
 
 this is the last message of this kind

Actually, it isn't ;-P

We're planning to hold a first meeting for debconf15 in mechelen, in
mechelen, for which I've created a doodle:
http://doodle.com/pbcb3aq42e7g6ukk

It'd be nice if those of us you want to help out and can make it in
person would indicate their availability. If you can't make it in person
but would still like to help out, just send me a private mail.

Regards,

(*this* is ;-)

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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet voor cups:squeeze

2013-09-01 Thread Sander Devrieze
Op 1 september 2013 10:40 schreef Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl:

 snip


 Dit is wat ik deed:

   apt-get source cups
   cd cups-1.4.4
   wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
   dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b

 Net nog eens exact hetzelfde gedaan. Deze output krijg ik als ik de tests
aan laat staan:

Creating directories for test...
Creating cupsd.conf for test...
Creating printers.conf for test...
Setting up environment variables for test...
Starting scheduler:
 ../scheduler/cupsd -c /tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf -f
/tmp/cups-root/log/debug_log 21 

Scheduler is PID 14883.

Message from syslogd@MyBookWorld at Sep  1 15:15:30 ...
 cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf' -
exiting!
Waiting for scheduler to become ready...


 Toelichting:
 * package devscripts is ge-installeerd


Heb ik niet. Zou het iets uitmaken als ik dit installeer? Kan dit via apt
geïnstalleerd worden?


 * ook de build dependencies  ( `apt-get build-depends cups` )


idem


 * de patch  http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch


idem


   bevat de wijziging waar het om gaat
 * op een i686 VPS  (een armel is in bestelling)


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GNU/Linux
Dit is de NAS: http://support.wdc.com/product/kb.asp?groupid=117lang=en



 Terug naar de
Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:
cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf'
 -
exiting!

 Doe het nog keer. Nu met squeezeCupsPlus.patch en logging m.b.v.
 `script`.
 Dat in command line syntax

script  pogingZoveel.transcript
apt-get source cups
cd cups-1.4.4
wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
exit # om script te verlaten, om logging te stoppen

 Zie bijlage.



 De verbetering zit in de cleane integratie van de patch.
 En mocht de verbetering er niet zijn,
 dan hebben we goede in 'pogingZoveel.transcript'


 Groeten
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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet voor cups:squeeze

2013-09-01 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2013-09-01 om 16:42 schreef Sander Devrieze:
 Op 1 september 2013 10:40 schreef Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl:
  snip
  Dit is wat ik deed:
 
apt-get source cups
cd cups-1.4.4
wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
 
  Net nog eens exact hetzelfde gedaan. Deze output krijg ik als ik de tests
 aan laat staan:
 
 Creating directories for test...
 Creating cupsd.conf for test...
 Creating printers.conf for test...
 Setting up environment variables for test...
 Starting scheduler:
  ../scheduler/cupsd -c /tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf -f
 /tmp/cups-root/log/debug_log 21 
 
 Scheduler is PID 14883.
 
 Message from syslogd@MyBookWorld at Sep  1 15:15:30 ...
  cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf' -
 exiting!
 Waiting for scheduler to become ready...


Hij is vreemd. Gelukkig hebben we van Elbrus een workaround gekregen.
(iets met no check )


  Toelichting:
  * package devscripts is ge-installeerd
 
 
 Heb ik niet. Zou het iets uitmaken als ik dit installeer?

Ik verwacht van niet. Ik had de developer scripts nodig
zodat apt-get source ook kon uitpakken.

 Kan dit via apt geïnstalleerd worden?

Jawel. `sudo aptitude install devscripts`


  * ook de build dependencies  ( `apt-get build-depends cups` )
 
 
 idem
 
 
  * de patch  http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch
bevat de wijziging waar het om gaat
 
 
 idem
 
 
  * op een i686 VPS  (een armel is in bestelling)
 
 
 Linux MyBookWorld 2.6.24.4 #1 Thu Apr 1 16:43:58 CST 2010 armv5tejl GNU/Linux
 Dit is de NAS: http://support.wdc.com/product/kb.asp?groupid=117lang=en
 
 
 
  Terug naar de
 Bij de unit tests loopt het fout:
 cupsd: Unable to read configuration file '/tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf'
  -
 exiting!
 
  Doe het nog keer. Nu met squeezeCupsPlus.patch en logging m.b.v.
  `script`.
  Dat in command line syntax
 
 script  pogingZoveel.transcript
 apt-get source cups
 cd cups-1.4.4
 wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch -p1
 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
 exit # om script te verlaten, om logging te stoppen
 
 
 Zie bijlage.

Die neem ik mee de trein in. Verwacht pas laat in de week terugkoppeling.
En als iemand anders mij voor is, dan is dat prima.


  De verbetering zit in de cleane integratie van de patch.
  En mocht de verbetering er niet zijn,
  dan hebben we goede in 'pogingZoveel.transcript'


Groeten
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P.S.

Eerder in deze thread was een bugreport van OpenWRT genoemd.
Die is afgesloten met new cups version of zo iets.

En nu we toch zelf aan het compileren zijn, waarom dan
ook niet de source van een nieuwe CUPS nemen?


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Re: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b werkt niet voor cups:squeeze

2013-09-01 Thread Sander Devrieze
Op 1 september 2013 19:42 schreef Geert Stappers stapp...@stappers.nl:

 knip
  script  pogingZoveel.transcript
  apt-get source cups
  cd cups-1.4.4
  wget -O - http://rosa.stappers.nl/ff/squeezeCupsPlus.patch | patch
 -p1
  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
  exit # om script te verlaten, om logging te stoppen
  
 
  Zie bijlage.

 Die neem ik mee de trein in. Verwacht pas laat in de week terugkoppeling.
 En als iemand anders mij voor is, dan is dat prima.


Ok, dan hoor ik het wel. Bedankt!



 P.S.

 Eerder in deze thread was een bugreport van OpenWRT genoemd.
 Die is afgesloten met new cups version of zo iets.

 En nu we toch zelf aan het compileren zijn, waarom dan
 ook niet de source van een nieuwe CUPS nemen?


Omdat dit de eerst keer zou zijn dat ik zelf helemaal manueel een Debian
package moet compileren (lees: niet veel tijd, zeker als je ermee rekening
houdt dat trail-and-error op die MyBook lang duurt...).

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Re: HDMI wordt gedetecteerd maar laat niets zien

2013-09-01 Thread Paul Gevers
On 31-08-13 09:53, Paul Gevers wrote:
 Hoi allemaal,
 
 Ik ben bijna radeloos. Dit is de derde keer dat ik serieus moeite doe om
 mijn beamer via HDMI aan mijn laptop te hangen. Het vreemde is dat
 xrandr (en de KDE display configure tool) de beamer prima detecteert (zo
 lijkt het) en dat ik zonder foutmeldingen de settings mag wijzigen.
 Helaas vindt de beamer geen signaal. Hieronder een samenvatting van
 wat specs. Mijn videokaart is een ATI dus ik heb ook (even) geprobeerd
 om de proprietary driver te gebruiken, maar die liet niet eens een HDMI
 item zien, dus dat gaf ik maar snel op.
 
 Nuttig: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
 Even geprobeerd: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
 Helaas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HDMI
 
 Heeft iemand nog goede ideeën?

Sjongejonge, de oplossing was om firmware-linux-nonfree te installeren.
Fijn dat je nergens een melding krijgt dat het daar misschien misgaat.

En nu de clou en de tip om dit te achterhalen: de HDMI kabel in de
laptop en de beamer aan en dan de laptop herstarten. Toen stond er
ineens in /var/log/dmesg een melding waar ik wat mee kon:
[6.064818] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
[6.065699] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting
for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree.

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