Problema amb Logcheck
Hola a tots i totes: Aquesta és per a sysadmins. Tinc una debian wheezy instal·lada en un servidor amb el logcheck funcionant a la perfecció. El tinc configurat perquè m'envie al meu correu els avisos. L'hostname del servidor, per exemple, és carxofa.albanydemaria.info Tot perfecte. Ara va i resulta que per raons que no venen al cas, he hagut de canviar l'hostname a carxofa.albanydemaria.com Doncs resulta que el logcheck segueix enviant el correu amb l'hostname antic amb extensio .info. He regirat i corregit tota la configuració del logcheck. He regirat i corregit tota la configuració del postfix. $ hostname carxofa.albanydemaria.com $ hostname -f carxofa.albanydemaria.com Tot sembla correcte, però no hi ha manera. Se vos acut què em falta regirar perquè el logcheck em faça cas? -- Atentament, cubells. Tel: +34 659 06 36 14 web: vcubells.net microblogging: identi.ca/cubells xmpp: cube...@jabber.org vic...@vcubells.net i...@obertix.net -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52622250.8050...@vcubells.net
Re: Problema amb Logcheck
Hola, Jo faria una cerca (rgrep albanydemaria.info /etc/*) perquè segurament hi ha alguna configuració (sendmail? postfix?) que cal actualitzar. Josep El 19/10/2013 8:19, cubells vic...@vcubells.net va escriure: Hola a tots i totes: Aquesta és per a sysadmins. Tinc una debian wheezy instal·lada en un servidor amb el logcheck funcionant a la perfecció. El tinc configurat perquè m'envie al meu correu els avisos. L'hostname del servidor, per exemple, és carxofa.albanydemaria.info Tot perfecte. Ara va i resulta que per raons que no venen al cas, he hagut de canviar l'hostname a carxofa.albanydemaria.com Doncs resulta que el logcheck segueix enviant el correu amb l'hostname antic amb extensio .info. He regirat i corregit tota la configuració del logcheck. He regirat i corregit tota la configuració del postfix. $ hostname carxofa.albanydemaria.com $ hostname -f carxofa.albanydemaria.com Tot sembla correcte, però no hi ha manera. Se vos acut què em falta regirar perquè el logcheck em faça cas? -- Atentament, cubells. Tel: +34 659 06 36 14 web: vcubells.net microblogging: identi.ca/cubells xmpp: cube...@jabber.org vic...@vcubells.net i...@obertix.net -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-REQUEST@**lists.debian.orgdebian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**52622250.8050...@vcubells.nethttp://lists.debian.org/52622250.8050...@vcubells.net
Re: Problema amb Logcheck
Hola, Jo faria una cerca (rgrep albanydemaria.info http://albanydemaria.info /etc/*) perquè segurament hi ha alguna configuració (sendmail? postfix?) que cal actualitzar. Al final he trobat que em faltava canviar el nom del servidor a /etc/mailname Així de senzill. Gràcies per la teua ajuda Josep! Atentament, cubells. Tel: +34 659 06 36 14 web: vcubells.net microblogging: identi.ca/cubells xmpp: cube...@jabber.org vic...@vcubells.net i...@obertix.net -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262302d.1020...@vcubells.net
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. Le 19/10/2013 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8c85e528-a547-40da-b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d50618fe-016e-474c-bf02-0fbc631da...@tinet.cat
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil; il faut répondre en Chine. Le 19/10/2013 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8c85e528-a547-40da-b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/73a1ebec-381f-4918-b877-a70f08db1...@tinet.cat
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:31:28 +0200 mi.de...@tinet.cat mi.de...@tinet.cat wrote: courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil Non, il a été expédié d'Amsterdam. -- Seb : Pour halloween, un vrai geek met un masque de sous réseau. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019123544.43e464ef@anubis.defcon1
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Le Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:10:01 +0200, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. du phishing sur les forums maintenant ? c'est le premier que je vois ici. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52625d3b$0$2273$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil; il faut répondre en Chine. Sender: off...@institutulmuncii.md md est la Moldavie beolw pour below; et un mot en anglais au milieu du texte en français rédigé dans un style qui reflète l'absence de pratique. Le 19/10/2013 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8c85e528-a547-40da-b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil; il faut répondre en Chine. Sender: off...@institutulmuncii.md md est la Moldavie beolw pour below; et un mot en anglais au milieu du texte en français rédigé dans un style qui reflète l'absence de pratique. pour ceux qui connaissent le moldave http://www.institutulmuncii.md/page.aspx?id=57AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 https://www.google.fr/search?q=institutulmuncii.mdie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-achannel=npsource=hpgws_rd=crei=GWRiUtHzKYWb0AWpk4HoAQ la Moldavie est un pays entre l'Ukraine et la oldavie https://www.google.fr/search?q=moldavieie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-achannel=npsource=hpgws_rd=crei=G2ViUryiBcKr0QWq8YCgCg Le 19/10/2013 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8c85e528-a547-40da-b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com
[HS]Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Le Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:31:28 +0200, mi.de...@tinet.cat mi.de...@tinet.cat a écrit : courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil; il faut répondre en Chine. Et puis surtout, on ne donne jamais un mot de passe par courriel. Celui là est quand même grossier : Français très approximatif, demande de confirmation d'acompte envoyée à une liste de diffusion et même pas un petit effort pour faire apparaître un nom qui rappelle un quelconque fournisseur de compte de courrier électronique. Ce qui n'empêche pas ce genre d'escroquerie de collecter quelques mots de passe. Mais rassurez moi, pas dans les lecteurs des listes Debian ? -- -+- Dominique Marin http://txodom.free.fr -+- «Le café est un breuvage qui fait dormir, quand on n'en prend pas.» -+- Alphonse Allais-+- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019124620.288598c8@txo-debian.localdomain
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:56:45 +0200, mi.de...@tinet.cat mi.de...@tinet.cat wrote: la Moldavie est un pays entre l'Ukraine et la oldavie https://www.google.fr/search?q=moldavieie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-achannel=npsource=hpgws_rd=crei=G2ViUryiBcKr0QWq8YCgCg [4] C'est ou la Oldavie? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/231ef7bad60498e59dbaa9f9c2b3af2b@localhost
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
courrier électronique à ne pas répondre; danger. il serait envoyé d'un pays émergent le Brésil; il faut répondre en Chine. Sender: off...@institutulmuncii.md md est la Moldavie beolw pour below; et un mot en anglais au milieu du texte en français rédigé dans un style qui reflète l'absence de pratique. pour ceux qui connaissent le moldave http://www.institutulmuncii.md/page.aspx?id=57AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 https://www.google.fr/search?q=institutulmuncii.mdie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-achannel=npsource=hpgws_rd=crei=GWRiUtHzKYWb0AWpk4HoAQ la Moldavie est un pays entre l'Ukraine et la Roumanie https://www.google.fr/search?q=moldavieie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:fr:officialclient=firefox-achannel=npsource=hpgws_rd=crei=G2ViUryiBcKr0QWq8YCgCg Le 19/10/2013 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : (2) Nom d'utilisateur : (3) Mot de passe : (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8c85e528-a547-40da-b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Le 19 oct. 13 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : tin...@ottokar.com (2) Nom d'utilisateur : tintin (3) Mot de passe : colonel-bordure (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : colonel-bordure Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8C85E528-A547-40DA- b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/944a08fd-d184-4a41-8aee-0628d453c...@worldonline.fr
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Le 19/10/2013 13:50, Philippe Gras a écrit : Le 19 oct. 13 à 11:33, Webmail Technical Team a écrit : Cher abonné, Nous sommes actuellement retenus dans le service de l'entretien de compte. Comme un abonné, vous êtes tenus de confirmer votre adhésion continuée. L'échec de confirmer votre adhésion continuée causera la suspension de service. Remplissez-vous avec gentillesse et mal tournez la forme beolw pour éviter la suspension. (1) E-mail : tin...@ottokar.com (2) Nom d'utilisateur : tintin (3) Mot de passe : colonel-bordure (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : colonel-bordure Merci. Webmail Équipe Technique. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8C85E528-A547-40DA- b95d-4259fa35b...@grass.arvixe.com Merci de ta contribution ;) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52627ecf$0$2129$426a3...@news.free.fr
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Le Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:40:01 +0200, Bzzz a écrit : Seb : Pour halloween, un vrai geek met un masque de sous réseau. +1 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262900d$0$2218$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Serveur apache et logs
François Boisson wrote on Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:03:55AM +0200 Le Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:08:10 +0200 Dominique Asselineau assel...@telecom-paristech.fr a écrit: Sauf si on ne peut pas faire autrement, l'accès à la base MySQL par un CGI devrait s'en tenir à des privilèges des plus limités. Ne pas autoriser de drop par ex. Le script était un script de chgmt de mot de passe. Dur de ne pas lui donner des droits d'écriture. Les bases de données permettent de préciser quels types d'opérations on peut faire. S'il s'agit d'une procédure de changement de mot de passe, a priori seul le update est nécessaire ? En tout cas, si l'accès réservé à un service ouvert sur l'extérieur n'a pas besoin des drop, create et insert, autant les lui interdire. Sinon un bourrage de base de données resterait potentiellement possible. Pour les protections, fail2ban n'est pas assez fin vu le trafic. mod-evasive remplit très ce rôle en renvoyant une erreur 403 si on s'acharne sur la page. Oui mais face à des requêtes douteuses, il vaut toujours mieux s'en apercevoir le plus tôt possible et de ne pas y répondre. Je crois qu'on a donné des règles iptables pour ce genre de cas ? On peut mettre une liste blanche permettant par exemple le recensement google qui sinon serait perturbé. Pas d'idées à propos de ces lignes 125.88.123.244 - - [15/Oct/2013:03:59:57 +0200] X-iqstuvt: 1 400 306 - - que je n'arrive pas à comprendre? Ni pour un logiciel d'analyse de fichiers access.log pour activités curieuses? On trouve ça décidément nulle part. D'ailleurs en repensant à la liste que tu as donnée précédemment, ça semblait bien aléatoire... Peut-être un truc pour essayer de mettre en échec un service ? dom -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019153209.ga30...@telecom-paristech.fr
Re: confirmez l'accont de votre courrier électronique
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le 19 octobre 2013 13:42, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit : (1) E-mail : tin...@ottokar.com (2) Nom d'utilisateur : tintin (3) Mot de passe : colonel-bordure (4) Confirmer le Mot de passe : colonel-bordure Tiens, un tintinophile... ;-) Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAqHXE4d_xja5hWpgqKTE1e+NR5ixcBwA+C81du1_=qd3ts...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Serveur apache et logs
Le Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:32:09 +0200 Dominique Asselineau assel...@telecom-paristech.fr a écrit: François Boisson wrote on Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:03:55AM +0200 Le Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:08:10 +0200 Le script était un script de chgmt de mot de passe. Dur de ne pas lui donner des droits d'écriture. Les bases de données permettent de préciser quels types d'opérations on peut faire. S'il s'agit d'une procédure de changement de mot de passe, a priori seul le update est nécessaire ? En tout cas, si l'accès réservé à un service ouvert sur l'extérieur n'a pas besoin des drop, create et insert, autant les lui interdire. Sinon un bourrage de base de données resterait potentiellement possible. Il travaillait à l'aveugle avec des tests pour deviner le résultat. Visiblement un update mal pensé a lancé la procédure de chamgement de mot de passe sur tous les comptes. Il faudrait que je regarde ce script mais il va de toute façon être mis à la retraite avec la portion de site correspondant. Pour les protections, fail2ban n'est pas assez fin vu le trafic. mod-evasive remplit très ce rôle en renvoyant une erreur 403 si on s'acharne sur la page. Oui mais face à des requêtes douteuses, il vaut toujours mieux s'en apercevoir le plus tôt possible et de ne pas y répondre. Je crois qu'on a donné des règles iptables pour ce genre de cas ? On peut mettre une liste blanche permettant par exemple le recensement google qui sinon serait perturbé. Pas d'idées à propos de ces lignes 125.88.123.244 - - [15/Oct/2013:03:59:57 +0200] X-iqstuvt: 1 400 306 - - que je n'arrive pas à comprendre? Ni pour un logiciel d'analyse de fichiers access.log pour activités curieuses? On trouve ça décidément nulle part. D'ailleurs en repensant à la liste que tu as donnée précédemment, ça semblait bien aléatoire... Peut-être un truc pour essayer de mettre en échec un service ? Je ne sais pas, 1217 tentatives pour être précis. Je donnerais des nouvelles si un jour j'ai une explication François -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019222809.998c91d7b49abafbb230e...@maison.homelinux.net
Re: Squid con 2500 usuarios
El día 19 de octubre de 2013 05:37, Gonzalo L. Campos Medina gcamp...@gmail.com escribió: Te estas olvidando de comentar más datos... ¿Qué tráfico de Internet tienes contratado? ¿Tienes un solo proveedor o más? Suponiendo que tengas más de un proveedor... ¿haces balanceo de carga? Tu red local es ¿10/100 o 100/1000? La infraestructura de red también influye bastante. ¿Estás filtrando contenidos? ¿Algún Blacklist (lista negra)? Un squid incorrectamente configurado consume CPU y RAM y finalmente hace lento el tráfico Además de todo lo que dice el compañero hay una cosa importante en la configuración de squid y esa es la cache. Debes comentar también si tu sistema cachea o no, y en caso afirmativo decir también como la tienes configurada. Si tienes un entorno con servidores Blade y encima vmware, es importante que también nos digas como tiene ofrecido esa máquina su espacio. Tienes una SAN? Tipo de discos? Rapidos, lentos? En fin.. mientras mas información nos facilites, mejor te podremos intentar ayudar. El 18 de octubre de 2013 16:23, Antonio Insuasti Recalde anto...@insuasti.ec escribió: Amigos, mas que un problema es una petición de know-how tengo un Squid con 2500 usuarios trabajando de 8am a 8pm el Squid esta virtualizado sobre un VMware con 5.5GB en ram el Host es un Blade HP BL460 que tiene 8GB en ram. el Squid es la única maquina sobre este hardware. Si tienen algún performance tip para este tipo de implementaciones ya que la verdad nunca he tenido tantos usuarios y es que cada vez que levanto el squid las personas se quejan de que la navegación es completamente lenta. Si me pueden recomendar algo Saludos, -- Antonio Insuasti R. IBM “Linux System Administrator” #ECUSFQ00228 RHSA No: 130-065-634 dCAP. #2071 ECE. #200571804 – #200576560 identi.ca/twiiter: @wolfantec Quito-Ecuador- -- Gonzalo L. Campos Medina http://www.ubuntu.com | http://www.ubuntu-es.org | http://www.ubuntu-pe.org L.R.U. #344192 | U.R.U. #161 Freenode #ubuntu-es #edubuntu-es #ubuntu-pe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajs4opubca9ycfg-1u73mnvj77gvcrftngajv6ltak5tpad...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Squid con 2500 usuarios
El Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:23:11 -0500, Antonio Insuasti Recalde escribió: (ese html...) Amigos, mas que un problema es una petición de know-how tengo un Squid con 2500 usuarios trabajando de 8am a 8pm el Squid esta virtualizado sobre un VMware con 5.5GB en ram el Host es un Blade HP BL460 que tiene 8GB en ram. el Squid es la única maquina sobre este hardware. Si tienen algún performance tip para este tipo de implementaciones ya que la verdad nunca he tenido tantos usuarios y es que cada vez que levanto el squid las personas se quejan de que la navegación es completamente lenta. Si me pueden recomendar algo Saludos, Google encuentra algunas configuraciones a gran escala de Squid: Squid Optimization Guide http://blog.last.fm/2007/08/30/squid-optimization-guide Large Scale Squid Deployment http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198893 Y bueno, el manual/FAQ oficial, sección Performance Tuning: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq How to analyze whether squid is performing well http://wiki.squid-cache.org/KnowledgeBase/PerformanceAnalysis Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.19.13.23...@gmail.com
[OT-Crunchbang] Re: Blender 2.68 y GTX 260M
El Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:59:47 -0500, argumento escribió: Hola a todos: Soy nuevo en el mundo debian, y aunque había usado mint antes, en realidad vengo de winslow. Pues bienvenido :-) Ahora tengo un problema. Estoy en una laptop asus con una GPU nvidia GTX 260M, en una instalación de Crunchbang (basado en debian stable) que upgradié a testing. Entonces mejor si marcas el hilo como [OT] (ya lo hago yo). Estoy usando mi computadora principalmente para edición de video, y estoy probando blender y su editor de video (VSE), pero en las opciones de rendereo no me deja escoger mi GPU. Leí que blender a partir del 2.64 no va a soportar GPU abajo de CUDA 2. Veamos qué dicen ellos: *** http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.6/Manual/Render/Cycles/ GPU_Rendering NVidia CUDA is supported for GPU rendering with NVidia graphics cards. We support graphics cards starting from GTX 4xx (computing capability 2.0). Computing capability 1.x cards are no longer supported, but you may still be able to compile experimental builds with a limited feature set (see below). *** Hum... parece que tu tarjeta admite una versión de CUDA (1.1) inferior a la requerida (2.0). ¿Alguien sabe como puedo arreglar esto, para que blender use mi GPU para renderear? Estoy usando los drivers no libres (propietarios) de nVidia, tal cual se encuentran en los repositorios de Jessie. Mil gracias por adelantado. No es cosa de vida o muerte, pero si es la diferencia entre renderear en unas horas o en unos días. Pues según las indicaciones de la página de Blender para las tarjetas que admiten una versión menor de CUDA recomiendan la compilcaicón manual para habilitar algunas características del renderizado. No sé, Blender no parece un paquetico pequeño, quizá te convendría más usar una versión menor que sí tenga soporte para la versión CUDA de tu adaptador gráfico, si es que existe esa opción. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.19.13.34...@gmail.com
[OT] Re: Ataque DDoS a una distro de debian
El Fri, 18 Oct 2013 19:31:42 -0500, argumento escribió: Hola lista: Pues el 15 y el 17 de este mes, el servidor donde se jostea la distro de linux que uso, crunchbang (basada en debian stable), fue víctima de un ataque DDoS (negación de servicio). http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=338859 Y hoy leo en Diaspora que Nodo50 (kaoesnlared.net, diagonal) también ha sido víctima de un ataque similar por las mismas fechas. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3187304 Y nomás eso, me llamó la atención. Pueden ser sucesos inconexos. ¿Crees que pueden ser ataques relacionados, dirigidos y/o revindicativos? No sé, eso es el pan de cada de días de los grandes sitios de hospedaje, yo no le daría mayor importancia. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.19.13.39...@gmail.com
RE Ataque DDoS
Este es el video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Jhecbniu4feature=youtube_gdata_player
Re: Divagando sobre distribuciones (era: Repositorios para debian testing)
El 10/10/13 15:52, Camaleón escribió: Bueno, Debian no es para todos los usuarios, eso está claro. Para un usuario convencional que quiere todo hecho y preparadito Ubuntu, Fedora u openSUSE quizá sean más convenientes,(...) No creas, yo soy usuario de esos de los que les gusta todo hecho y preparadito... y aquí estoy, con Debian (aunque eso si, de vuelta a la estable). De Ubuntu lo que me tira para atrás es que haya una empresa detrás. Por contra, valoro el soporte de 5 años que tienen para su versión LTS. Estoy de acuerdo contigo en que no me gusta Ubuntu porque tiene una empresa detrás, y se ve forzada a sacar versiones muy rapidamente, y casi sin acabar, para eso, me quedo con Windows :-P Además, no sé por que, pero Ubuntu tiene fama de sencilla y fácil, y sin embargo, a mi me ha resultado más fácil adaptarme y entender Debian :) -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l3u8fj$sek$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Divagando sobre distribuciones (era: Repositorios para debian testing)
El Sat, 19 Oct 2013 17:29:01 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 10/10/13 15:52, Camaleón escribió: Bueno, Debian no es para todos los usuarios, eso está claro. Para un usuario convencional que quiere todo hecho y preparadito Ubuntu, Fedora u openSUSE quizá sean más convenientes,(...) No creas, yo soy usuario de esos de los que les gusta todo hecho y preparadito... y aquí estoy, con Debian (aunque eso si, de vuelta a la estable). Entonces no eres de esos a los que me refería ;-) De Ubuntu lo que me tira para atrás es que haya una empresa detrás. Por contra, valoro el soporte de 5 años que tienen para su versión LTS. Estoy de acuerdo contigo en que no me gusta Ubuntu porque tiene una empresa detrás, y se ve forzada a sacar versiones muy rapidamente, y casi sin acabar, para eso, me quedo con Windows :-P Bueno, eso no me parece del todo mal ya que las versiones que saca cada poco tiempo cumplen dos funciones (desde mi punto de vista, claro): 1/ les sirve de cuna de pruebas para pulir las versiones LTS y 2/ permite que los usuarios disfruten de un kernel moderno y aplicaciones actualizadas que es lo que quieren al fin y al cabo. Además, no sé por que, pero Ubuntu tiene fama de sencilla y fácil, y sin embargo, a mi me ha resultado más fácil adaptarme y entender Debian :) Lo cual confirma que no eres de esos usuarios :-D Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.19.15.35...@gmail.com
[Cómo] Servidor X no inicia en Jessie tras actualizar a VirtualBox 4.3
Hola, Bueno, lo pongo por si alguien se encuentra en la misma situación y le puede servir. Al actualizar VirtualBox a la versión 4.3, la máquina virtual que tengo con testing (jessie) no arrancaba el entorno gráfico debido al cambio del ABI. Para solucionarlo sólo hay que instalar la versión correspondiente de las guest additions desde la línea de comandos. Esto es lo que he hecho (lo pongo de memoria): 1º Asegurase de que la imagen iso de las guest additions se monta desde el host 2º Montar la unidad óptica en la máquina virtual mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom 3º Instalar las GA al uso cd /media/cdrom sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run 4º Reiniciar la máquina virtual Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.19.15.47...@gmail.com
Re: Squid con 2500 usuarios
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:23:30 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Tienes puertos filtrados o los usuarios pueden usar todos los puertos? Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/servicios.php MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina pgpbx8x1lwviT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Squid con 2500 usuarios
Yo no virtualizaría un proxy, debido a que usa mucho I/O. He visto en algunos equipos virtualizados con discos lentos en el host anfitrión, que elevan el Iowait en el top a niveles indecentes tirando al piso el rendimiento del equipo. Saludos, 2013/10/19 Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:23:30 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Tienes puertos filtrados o los usuarios pueden usar todos los puertos? Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/servicios.php MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html
RE: Squid con 2500 usuarios
Yo opino lo mismo , ya que son 2500 usuarios es grandemente importante pues depende mucho de tu hadware sobre todo memoria para este equipo , pero si dicres que tienes una pc_virtual , cual es la necesidad de tenerla virtualizada , seria bueno que le pongas alguna, unas buenas tarjetas a este sever. Con respecto al ancho de banda como esta trabajando o mas bien cuanto tienes, y bueno revisa la configuracion de la memoria cache de squid podras hacerle un refresh , prueba con esto en un modo de ver que tal vez esto te ayude http://fraterneo.blogspot.com/2010/11/como-limpiarborrar-la-memoria-cache-de.html yo tengo dos server fisicos con squid con 200 usuarios cada uno y 6M de AB, corre bien pero simpre le hago su mantenimiento, ahora que estoy peleando con el IE que no consulta paginas pero bueno este es otro problema Algo ulitmo como esta configurado podria suponer que no lo tienes modo transparente... me corriges eso. saludos Atte. William Romero From: diego.cha...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 10:50:40 -0600 Subject: Re: Squid con 2500 usuarios To: mama21m...@riseup.net CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Yo no virtualizaría un proxy, debido a que usa mucho I/O. He visto en algunos equipos virtualizados con discos lentos en el host anfitrión, que elevan el Iowait en el top a niveles indecentes tirando al piso el rendimiento del equipo. Saludos, 2013/10/19 Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:23:30 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Tienes puertos filtrados o los usuarios pueden usar todos los puertos? Saludos -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/servicios.php MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html
cedilha virou c com acento agudo do gnome
Caros, tenho um teclado internacional e uso gnome no debian unstable. acredito que depois de uma atualizaćão o cedilha virou ć. no console o cedilha está normal. Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382182274.21893.3.ca...@lap-fredm.home
Re: cedilha virou c com acento agudo do gnome
Tenta isso aqui: http://bit.ly/1avV4VL Abs, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro 2013/10/19 Fred Ulisses Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com Caros, tenho um teclado internacional e uso gnome no debian unstable. acredito que depois de uma atualizaćão o cedilha virou ć. no console o cedilha está normal. Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382182274.21893.3.ca...@lap-fredm.home
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Re: Gnome login screen not shown
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:40 +0530, bhuvanesh kumar wrote: I recently upgraded my system from Debian testing to Unstable. After, upgrading i'm not able to login to my system If you don't know what log files you should read, or at least post, I recommend to continue and to fix the issues by installing packages from experimental, perhaps this will fix the problem. If not, convert packages for other distros by using alien. I would test if the login manager's greeter from e.g. openSuse repositories does fix it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382169137.678.147.camel@archlinux
Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)
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Re: web-gui for scripts
On 18.10.2013 20:56, Pol Hallen wrote: [snip] But is boring everytime connect to ssh and put new domain using command line... :-/ [snip] You could try a single-purpose key. You are logging in using keys already, I hope? If you combine the single-purpose key with some changes to ~/.ssh/config then you can log in and launch the script with two words. It would take only a few steps to set up. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52624d25@gmail.com
Printer malfunction
I tried using the command line to research bugs and report my printer problem, but I do not have enough knowledge to interpret the terminology used. Below is a description of my problem. October 19, 2013 Preface My Lexmark printers' performance using Lenovo laptop computers 3000 N200 (i386) and z575 (amd64) degraded after the operating systems were updated or upgraded. The problem seems to correlate with updates in the Common Unix Printing (CUPS) system. Normal Functioning First, printing with the Lenovo laptops a month ago produced no errors. The Debian 6.0 system on the 3000 N200 supported printing from Lexmark x544 and Lexmark E360dn. Tray 1 and manual feed functioned properly. Lexmark printer performance was also good using Linux mint 14 and 15 with the Lenovo z575. Incidentally if I understand correctly Debian squeeze is using cups-client 1.4.4-7 squeeze2 i386.deb Problem Linux Mint 15 was updated on the z575 around the beginning of October 2013. Printer function suffered. Debian on the 3000 n200 was upgraded to Debian 7.0 and printer function degraded. Printing would stop after a few prints. The only output was a line of characters at the top of the page. The manual tray would work intermittently depending on the print file used. Debian Jessie was installed on 10-15-13 a.m. and similar printer dysfunction persists. Cups 1.5.3-5+deb7u1 is the installed version in Debian 7.2. Ubuntu 13.10 replaced Debian Jessie as a second operating system on the 3000 n200 on 10-15-13 p.m. That system uses cups-client 1.7.0~rc1-Obuntu5 i386.deb. The Lexmark E360dn will stop printing after the first print. The only output is a line of characters. Turning the printer off will allow one more print. This mode of only getting one print while using Ubuntu 13.10 applies to tray 1 and the manual feed. If this problem has already been reported, can you send me the bug number for it? Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382174858.6201.38.ca...@debian3000n200.kisa.net
Re: Dying hard drive?
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:40:49PM -0400, mfidelman wrote: I'm using Seagate ST3000DM001-9YN166 drives, not enterprise-class drives. Ok... seagate probably writes error codes in that field. Try googling the model number and smart, or raw_read_error. That might help you track things down. I guess you could also try soft-removing one drive at a time from your array to isolate the bad drive. Looking for some more information on Seagate's S.M.A.R.T. attributes shows that they are really hard to interpret. Big raw values are often not considered bad or sign of a problem. They recommend their SeaTools for investigating. I'll try with their live CD on Monday when I get back to office. I'll also try with replacing SATA cables, just to be sure that they are not faulty and responsible for performance degradation. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019103417.ga5...@angelina.example.com
Re: Dying hard drive?
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:31:55PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: I've found, at least for the WD drives I use in my servers - anything other than a 0 raw-read-error count is a sign of near-term disk failure. This is highly manufacturer dependent. In my experience, with Seagate drives, it's normal to have Raw_Read_Error_Rate in the tens or hundreds of millions. Thanks for pointing this out. It does throws some light on big numbers I have on all four drives. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019103609.gb5...@angelina.example.com
Re: Problems with vesa X driver
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 22:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: I tried that. But the previous version of the driver has a dependency on xserver-xorg-video-abi-12, which is a virtual package not currently provided by any current package. The last package to provide it was the old version of xserver-xorg-core. Thus, a downgrade of xserver-xorg-core would be required too, and that in turn would require a downgrade of just about the entire suite of X-related packages. It's not worth doing. quote: If you want to add a specific date's archive to your apt sources.list simply add an entry like these: deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20091004T111800Z/ lenny main deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20091004T111800Z/ lenny main deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-security/20091004T121501Z/ lenny/updates main deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-security/20091004T121501Z/ lenny/updates main http://snapshot.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019124749.214c8...@eunet.rs
Re: Dying hard drive?
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Gregory Nowak wrote: According to the above, I would say only sda and sdb are bad, sda being the worst of the two. I stand to be corrected as always. Yeah - that's what it looks like to me as well (having gotten back to a screen other than my smartphone). I hope that supplier I got this drives from will be willing to replace them on basis of this results. Anyway, since it's RAID, they can be only replaced one by one. One question: how do you handle replacements like this? If supplier is willing to replace bad drives, it is necessary to return bad ones, but data on those drives are not intended to be seen by third parties. It also looks like those drives are pretty old: 40 Head_Flying_Hours 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 174414326932768 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 23166370191361 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 174661697951516 They work 24/7 for more than a year (over 400 days). That's not really old. My WD desktop drive have 3.2 years of Power_On_Hours but with Raw_Read_Error_Rate=0, Reallocated_Sector_Ct=0 and Seek_Error_Rate=0. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019104934.gc5...@angelina.example.com
Re: Logitech unified wireless
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:17:56 +0200 Gareth de Vaux deb...@lordcow.org wrote: Hello Gareth, I do need to redo the pairing on each boot in the OS though. Admittedly, I've only rebooted a couple since installing solaar, but have not had to re-pair my keyboard and mouse with the receiver. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent The deadbeats and the dispossessed, the seekers of unlikeliness Street Of Dreams - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
emacs and goldendict
Bonjour, I have Emacs and Goldendict installed. Since the last upgrade (2 days ago), everytime I press C-c-c in emacs, goldendict open a window! How to disable this horrific behaviour? Thank you. -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Wheezy amd64 i386 package versions mismatch
Hello! Currently I have a Wheezy virtual machine in state, that apt refuses to install or update anything. Always the reason is that there is a version for the package, or some dependence in two arch, amd64 and i386, and they are of different version. Anyone seen this? dpkg: error processing libcurl3:amd64 (--configure): package libcurl3:amd64 7.26.0-1+wheezy4 cannot be configured because libcurl3:i386 is at a different version (7.26.0-1+wheezy3) dpkg: error processing libxml2:amd64 (--configure): package libxml2:amd64 2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu2 cannot be configured because libxml2:i386 is at a different version (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+nmu1) dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libisc84: libisc84 depends on libxml2 (= 2.7.4); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libisc84 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libdns88: libdns88 depends on libisc84; however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. libdns88 depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libdns88 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libisccc80: libisccc80 depends on libisc84; however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. libisccc80 depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libisccc80 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libisccfg82: libisccfg82 depends on libdns88; however: Package libdns88 is not configured yet. libisccfg82 depends on libisc84; however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. libisccfg82 depends on libisccc80; however: Package libisccc80 is not configured yet. libisccfg82 depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libisccfg82 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libbind9-80: libbind9-80 depends on libdns88; however: Package libdns88 is not configured yet. libbind9-80 depends on libisc84; however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. libbind9-80 depends on libisccfg82; however: Package libisccfg82 is not configured yet. libbind9-80 depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing libbind9-80 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of liblwres80: liblwres80 depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing liblwres80 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of bind9utils: bind9utils depends on libbind9-80; however: Package libbind9-80 is not configured yet. bind9utils depends on libdns88; however: Package libdns88 is not configured yet. bind9utils depends on libisc84; however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. bind9utils depends on libisccc80; however: Package libisccc80 is not configured yet. bind9utils depends on libisccfg82; however: Package libisccfg82 is not configured yet. bind9utils depends on libxml2 (= 2.6.27); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing bind9utils (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of bind9: bind9 depends on libbind9-80 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package libbind9-80 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on libdns88 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package libdns88 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on libisc84 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package libisc84 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on libisccc80 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package libisccc80 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on libisccfg82 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package libisccfg82 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on liblwres80 (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package liblwres80 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on libxml2 (= 2.7.4); however: Package libxml2:amd64 is not configured yet. bind9 depends on bind9utils (= 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1); however: Package bind9utils is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing bind9 (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: libcurl3:amd64 libxml2:amd64 libisc84 libdns88 libisccc80 libisccfg82 libbind9-80 liblwres80 bind9utils bind9 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) -- jarif.bit signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Dying hard drive?
Veljko wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 06:50:11PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Gregory Nowak wrote: According to the above, I would say only sda and sdb are bad, sda being the worst of the two. I stand to be corrected as always. Yeah - that's what it looks like to me as well (having gotten back to a screen other than my smartphone). I hope that supplier I got this drives from will be willing to replace them on basis of this results. Anyway, since it's RAID, they can be only replaced one by one. One question: how do you handle replacements like this? If supplier is willing to replace bad drives, it is necessary to return bad ones, but data on those drives are not intended to be seen by third parties. It also looks like those drives are pretty old: 40 Head_Flying_Hours 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 174414326932768 241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 23166370191361 242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 174661697951516 They work 24/7 for more than a year (over 400 days). That's not really old. My WD desktop drive have 3.2 years of Power_On_Hours but with Raw_Read_Error_Rate=0, Reallocated_Sector_Ct=0 and Seek_Error_Rate=0. No... not that old at all (I tend to get 3-4 years out of server drives that are also running 24/7). -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52627a22.4020...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Dying hard drive?
On 19/10/13 11:36, Veljko wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 07:31:55PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: This is highly manufacturer dependent. In my experience, with Seagate drives, it's normal to have Raw_Read_Error_Rate in the tens or hundreds of millions. Thanks for pointing this out. It does throws some light on big numbers I have on all four drives. Regards, Veljko On an ubuntu list (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157352 I found a link to this explanation: http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Desktop-HDD-Desktop-SSHD/Seagate-s-Seek-Error-Rate-Raw-Read-Error-Rate-and-Hardware-ECC/td-p/122382 (...) Seagate calculates and applies [the SMART] attribute values in a counterintuitive way. (...) Indeed, one of my own Seagate disks reports Head_Flying_Hours of 231795090009925, which are 2.65x10^10 years :-) -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52627b27.4050...@gmail.com
Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Hello: I recently installed Debian Wheezy stable with xfce desktop; I am having problems with my hardware. 1. When I shut down my computer, sometimes I am hearing mechanical click sounds from my laptop during the shutdown process. I suspect that it may be related to soundcards; hp dm1 has an HDMI outlet and it has double soundcards, I believe. But I am not able to figure out exactly what is causing this click and whether I should really worry about it. Any suggestions? 2. I have an AMD Radeon 6310 Graphics card. I installed linux-nonfree drivers but I was not happy with it. My laptop was burning from heat after a few clicks on my laptop. I installed the closed source driver and now it is cooler. But this also made me to stick to the default 3.2 kernel of wheezy stable. From what I read from internet, I need at least kernel 3.7 for my laptop. My question is: if I install the backports 3.10 kernel, will I be able to use the close source driver? I tried to install the closed source driver on 3.10 without any success, I just want to make sure about it. I guess bottom line I will need to leave debian for the time being and switch to an RPM based distro, like Opensuse. I gave it a try a year ago; opensuse is doing better with my hardware, but I don't want to switch unless I really have to. Any help or suggestions is appreciated. Best Regards, S. Sahin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52628567.9040...@yahoo.ca
Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Steffen Dettmer
steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using Wheezy with ifup version 0.7.8, I think this is the
latest officially released (aka the best) one?
Strange. I was under the impression that Debian 7's ifupdown is using
iproute but you had a vconfig error in an earlier email - and the
trying to add error below also looks like an ioctl error rather than
a netlink one.
Ahh, that is a good point, yes, of course, there are old-style
errors instead of this NETLINK: file already exists! I saw the
message but completed missed that.
I'm looking at strace -e execve -f -o out ifup eth1.77, and one
one box I see:
(no stat vconfig)
ip link add link eth1 name eth1.77 type vlan id 77
and on the other I see:
stat64(/sbin/vconfig, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=8032, ...}) = 0
vconfig set_name_type DEV_PLUS_VID_NO_PAD
vconfig add eth3 78
I think I manually installed package vlan on only this second
box at a previous test. This package is not on the first box
(altough documentation seems to suggest it would be needed).
If first strace would include stat(...vconfig...) I would assume
ifup tries vconfig and fall-backs to ip (but I think it should be
other way around), but may be there is a different way to detect
usage of vconfig...
Well debugged! You're right - and I agree that it should be the
other way around.
Does anyone know whether adding an ip address with ip to an interface
configured with ifconfig isn't possible? Probably not.
On Shell and without VLAN, I'm used to create first IP with
ifconfig ethX ip netmask ... up and then use ip addr add
(mostly because I always forget the ip link set up syntax :))
and this works, so simply setting IPs normally is no issue
(except that they are normally not visible in ifconfig of course).
So the post-up should be post-up ifconfig eth0.9:0 192.168.1.199
netmask 255.255.255.0 up, although I can't remember ever coming
across such an interface (or know whether it's possible to do
something like this with net-tools!).
The following commands procedure no error:
ifconfig eth3.78:0 192.168.1.199 up
ip addr add 192.168.1.200 dev eth3.78
ip addr add 192.168.1.201 dev eth3.78:0 # funny :)
resulting in
9: eth3.78@eth3: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue state UP
link/ether 08:00:27:46:0a:34 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 10.0.5.15/24 brd 10.0.5.255 scope global eth3.78
inet 192.168.1.199/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth3.78:0
inet 192.168.1.199/32 scope global eth3.78
inet 192.168.1.200/32 scope global eth3.78
So seems to be nicely compatible.
Thanks. And ip understands the ifconfig alias as a label. This rings a
bell; I should've remembered this and know that they were compatible.
Sorry.
So the post-up ... failure was due to something else...
Maybe you could try to do what you want using net-tools manually to
remove any ifupdown bug from the mix.
Yes, this could be an option, but probably taking a day to
implement and another for testing (I'm always optimistic, you see :)).
OK. :)
Is the example above correct? Does it work for you? Could your
machine be boot so quickly that it might not be visible without
adding --noclear to /etc/inittab for tty1 getty?
I tested once. I just took down the network so that only lo was
defined and then brought it up with what I'd posted.
Do you have package vlan installed? Maybe I should retest after
removing package vlan...
No, vlan isn't installed. So the vlan settings are being applied using ip.
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Re: Gnome login screen not shown
On 2013-10-19, bhuvanesh kumar bhuvibhuvan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently upgraded my system from Debian testing to Unstable. After, upgrading i'm not able to login to my system. Instead of a login screen an error page showing the text, Oh no! Something has gone wrong A problem has occured and system can't recover Please log out and try again is displayed with a logout button below. Looks rather like this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724731 Various workarounds are explored/discussed, but the bug is alive and kicking (buzzing?). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl65cdi.22f.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Configuring multiple IP addresses on VLAN interface using ifupdown
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Steffen Dettmer steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: allow-auto eth0.9 iface eth0.9 inet static address 192.168.1.119 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 post-up ip address add 192.168.1.199/24 dev eth0.9 Is the example above correct? Does it work for you? Could your machine be boot so quickly that it might not be visible without adding --noclear to /etc/inittab for tty1 getty? I tested once. I just took down the network so that only lo was defined and then brought it up with what I'd posted. I retested after dpkg -P vlan, booted a couple of times and got no single error. Seems this mean to use VLAN someone should better not install package vlan... :-) It's theoretically deprecated like net-tools... Good spot about the non-NETLINK errors!! Thanks so much, I completely missed that! So maybe there is just some issue about some vconfig backward-compatiblity in ifup? Have a great weekend, Tom and all the list! Thanks. You too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=swttru0yejk3b_1oziv_mh8oiqe4saaym_ukebn9+h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: emacs and goldendict
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:34:07 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr napísal: Bonjour, I have Emacs and Goldendict installed. Since the last upgrade (2 days ago), everytime I press C-c-c in emacs, goldendict open a window! How to disable this horrific behaviour? It is not horrific behavior, it is default GoldenDict keyboard shortcut. Go to GoldenDict or to Emacs settings and change/disable this shortcut. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
How to format the command output like MySQL output
Hello everylinuxers: I am now focusing on the development of a script interpretor (some thing like shell) in embedded environment, and its functions mainly output the data in specified address. In order to make it seems better, I want to format the output result like MySQL output listed below for example ||++-+ | address| value | ++-+| | 0x1110| 0x01 | ++-+ | 0x | 0x00 | ++-+| I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? Sorry to borther all of you, any info would be appreciated. -- /Thanks Best Regrads! / /Nicol TAO (taozhijiang)/ /Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China 518055 / /Being Stronger!!!/
grub warning when updating
Hello, I updated today my wheezy system. In the update there were both a grub and kernel updates. During install I got these messages Setting up grub-pc (1.99-27+deb7u2) ... /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition. This is a BAD idea.. /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. Installation finished. No error reported. Generating grub.cfg ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 Warning: update-grub_lib is deprecated, use grub-mkconfig_lib instead Found linux image: /boot/bzImage-2.6.38.2--grs-ipv6-64 done Since this update I did not dare rebooting my system... What happened? Do I have to change my grub install, or is it OK to keep it like this? -- Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262b394.90...@posteurs.com
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? [snip] Perl would be the next step up, but if awk is not allowed then perl certainly won't be. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262b8f3.4030...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
1) The clicking sound could also be the hard drive. Check the SMART health for it. 2) You can get later open-source drivers by switching the Debian/Jessie. The current state of Testing is a 3.10 kernel but the proprietary drivers aren't available for it yet. You can also try switching to another .deb distro that offers later proprietary drivers like Ubuntu or Mint. These offer proprietary drivers with a 6-month release schedule so the software is more up to date than Debian/Wheezy but still fairly stable. Thank you for the reply: 1) I will check and see if I can install SMART health on my system. I made a google search and it seems like it has an RPM package. I guess I will need to compile from sources. I tried this laptop with an Ubuntu based distribution, specifically Xubuntu 12.04 and 12.10. I was occasionally getting the similar click sounds. I think that it may be related to the Debian based kernels (I am not sure but I assume Ubuntu's kernel is related to the Debian's). Xubuntu 13.04 was even worse, it wasn't playing well with my sound card at all, the sound was occasionally going down. I may try Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 to see if there is any improvements. I used fedora 18 and 19 for a couple of months and I didn't have the same issue. Same goes for opensuse, I used it for 6 months and I didn't have any problems. 2) I tried the open source driver with backported kernel 3.10 in Wheezy but it didn't improve. The package was linux-firmware-nonfree, version 0.39. I was ending up with a burning machine after I make a few clicks. I doubt that Jessie currently uses a better open source driver from that of the backported kernel. So, I guess if I want to go with Debian, the only choice for me is to stick to the kernel 3.2 (which is a bit old for my laptop) with closed source driver and ignore the click sounds. I think Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 may be a better option since it comes with kernel 3.11 reportedly having a better open source driver for amd radeon graphics. But I don't like the fact that I will need to make an upgrade after 6 months. I want to use my machine as a productivity laptop. This is the reason I am considering opensuse if I can't find a workaround with debian. Opensuse 13.1 will be an evergreen release meaning that I can keep it for almost 3 years with security updates. But I am willing to continue with Debian rather than an RPM based distro. Any suggestions for an alternative productivity linux which can potentially play well with my laptop would be well appreciated. Best Regards, S. Sahin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262c26e.8040...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Sureyya Sahin writes: I will check and see if I can install SMART health on my system. I made a google search and it seems like it has an RPM package. I guess I will need to compile from sources. No need for that. Install smartmontools. Add smart-notifier if you feel the need for a GUI. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gd9kvbi@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
gsmartcontrol might also be of interest. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8738nxkutb@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
Hi, Dňa Sun, 20 Oct 2013 00:35:49 +0800 陶治江 taozhiji...@gmail.com napísal: I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? python has some nice libraries. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 09:13 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: 1. When I shut down my computer, sometimes I am hearing mechanical click sounds from my laptop during the shutdown process. I suspect that it may be related to soundcards Sometimes I wonder if the piezoelectric disk beeper makes such noise or if there's a mechanical relay I never noticed for power. If not, than the HDDs make the sound. I'm quiet sure the noise is caused by the HDDs only and not by anything else. If you hear the click sometimes, than it's ok, this happens to my machine since years, when the drives were new and still today. If you get the click noise very often, especially when the drives spin up, than the drives, resp. one drive will die soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382207202.705.7.camel@archlinux
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
No need for that. Install smartmontools. Add smart-notifier if you feel the need for a GUI. Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the package description. Should I leave it just working as a daemon and it would warn if there is anything wrong? S. Sahin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262d284.2070...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 13:33 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: 1) The clicking sound could also be the hard drive. Check the SMART health for it. 2) You can get later open-source drivers by switching the Debian/Jessie. The current state of Testing is a 3.10 kernel but the proprietary drivers aren't available for it yet. You can also try switching to another .deb distro that offers later proprietary drivers like Ubuntu or Mint. These offer proprietary drivers with a 6-month release schedule so the software is more up to date than Debian/Wheezy but still fairly stable. Thank you for the reply: 1) I will check and see if I can install SMART health on my system. I made a google search and it seems like it has an RPM package. I guess I will need to compile from sources. I tried this laptop with an Ubuntu based distribution, specifically Xubuntu 12.04 and 12.10. I was occasionally getting the similar click sounds. I think that it may be related to the Debian based kernels (I am not sure but I assume Ubuntu's kernel is related to the Debian's). Xubuntu 13.04 was even worse, it wasn't playing well with my sound card at all, the sound was occasionally going down. I may try Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 to see if there is any improvements. I used fedora 18 and 19 for a couple of months and I didn't have the same issue. Same goes for opensuse, I used it for 6 months and I didn't have any problems. 2) I tried the open source driver with backported kernel 3.10 in Wheezy but it didn't improve. The package was linux-firmware-nonfree, version 0.39. I was ending up with a burning machine after I make a few clicks. I doubt that Jessie currently uses a better open source driver from that of the backported kernel. So, I guess if I want to go with Debian, the only choice for me is to stick to the kernel 3.2 (which is a bit old for my laptop) with closed source driver and ignore the click sounds. I think Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 may be a better option since it comes with kernel 3.11 reportedly having a better open source driver for amd radeon graphics. But I don't like the fact that I will need to make an upgrade after 6 months. I want to use my machine as a productivity laptop. This is the reason I am considering opensuse if I can't find a workaround with debian. Opensuse 13.1 will be an evergreen release meaning that I can keep it for almost 3 years with security updates. But I am willing to continue with Debian rather than an RPM based distro. Any suggestions for an alternative productivity linux which can potentially play well with my laptop would be well appreciated. A multi-boot to test a few distros can't harm, however, they all use Linux and user space from upstream, just the versions differ, some settings differ, the structure differs, e.g. for startup some use init others systemd and Ubuntu upstart, so solving issues by switching distros unlikely will end up with an optimized install. You should maintain one or two installs and customize them to your needs. While I guess Ubuntu made some steps in the wrong direction, you're mistaken regarding to be forced to upgrade every 6 month. You should add security updates daily, but you don't need to make more. 12.04 LTS was released April 2012 and is supported until April 2017. You can customize what ever Linux distro you use by several levels. Even compiling a kernel yourself is easy to learn. It's easier to learn how to build a kernel, than to learn commands for RPM and DEB package management. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382208675.705.20.camel@archlinux
Advice on new desktop/building?
My current desktop has been having some issues lately and I think its time to consider replacing it. Ive been having trouble finding exactly what I want, even tho' this is straightforward, so i though I'd ask here to get some advice, maybe even about building my own machine (which Ive never done but am willing to learn). This is to run Wheezy for simple desktop use--web surfing, running home music network, some videos, some coding, but no gaming, no video/sound editing, no real storage needs. I DO want: Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower), attractive SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just want the system to run fast) Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause that's the ports i have) Optical drive Lots of USB ports (3.0 not really necessary but wouldnt hurt I guess) Gigabit Ethernet Relatively quiet, energy efficient 8 GB RAM (for future-proofing, don't normally need much) I DONT want or don't care about: Massive speed and 16 cores (but want enough that I wont need to replace in a year) Fancy video card (built-in has always been fine, if I can watch movies that's all i need) Fancy sound card (I use USB into a DAC for serious things) Massive mechanical HD When i look at computers from HP or Lenovo, it looks like it costs a fortune to add a SSD (and i dont want to buy a separate one from Crucial and then have the original one in a box on my shelf) and memory. The cheaper machines seem to be worrisomely basic, like in a year they won't be able to run YouTube, and the more expensive ones still need upgrades of SSD and RAM. And in particular the smaller form factors tend to be pretty spendy. But i have literally no idea how to assemble a machine from scratch, and in trying to browse i dont even know how to find a smaller form factor--i cant find an elegant slim case, just huge fancy gaming ones, or dull ugly boxes of various sizes. All advice appreciated, thank you! Jen
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Sometimes I wonder if the piezoelectric disk beeper makes such noise or if there's a mechanical relay I never noticed for power. If not, than the HDDs make the sound. I'm quiet sure the noise is caused by the HDDs only and not by anything else. If you hear the click sometimes, than it's ok, this happens to my machine since years, when the drives were new and still today. If you get the click noise very often, especially when the drives spin up, than the drives, resp. one drive will die soon. OK, if it is the HDD that is causing the sound, why does it seem like it is randomly happening? I really can't see a specific reason which would trigger these clicks and sounds. I don't have a choice but to neglect these random clicks I guess if I want to go with Debian... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262d82e.50...@yahoo.ca
Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 09:34:02AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-10-14 at 16:00 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Install the extension/addon 'noscript' As already mentioned, I don't want to install another add-on. If I need javascript disabled, I can use another browser and if happens to me, what happens to the OP, I'm fixing it the way I described. IOW my intention was to point out, that modern Firefoxes don't provide an option to disable javascript. What versionof firefox are you running? I'm running iceweasel 17.0.9 which,as you know, is just a rebranded firefox. When I access mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new it tells me I'm using the latest version of firefox and doesn't give an option of downloading a new browser. As has been posted before, edit - preferences - content shows an option to enable javascript (or not). I mean, why bother with complex solutions if there are simple ones? I also could have answered that Firefox don't provide such an option anymore and that an add-on is needed. Not my experience. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: ...snip.. Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers, mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term Engineer is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing board. The three states I've checked (Maryland, Texas and North Carolina) are all this way. I worked sub-contract for 18 yrs at a number of different companies in several states. In all cases the job title of engineer was universally used and carried no licensing requirement. .huge snip of gross over quoting.. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Sureyya Sahin writes: Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the package description. So start it from the command line. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y55pj8fr@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On 19/10/13 02:51 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: A multi-boot to test a few distros can't harm, however, they all use Linux and user space from upstream, just the versions differ, some settings differ, the structure differs, e.g. for startup some use init others systemd and Ubuntu upstart, so solving issues by switching distros unlikely will end up with an optimized install. You should maintain one or two installs and customize them to your needs. I am exactly trying to do what you're suggesting. I want to maintain a reliable linux which would allow me to concentrate on my work without keeping me distracted by system updates, bugs etc. Personally, I never expected Debian would be optimized when I selected it; just to give an example, when I run powertop for optimizing Debian I am seeing untunable parameters giving me the clue that Debian may not be optimized for my laptop. And I never expect Debian to bring up-to-date software. While I guess Ubuntu made some steps in the wrong direction, you're mistaken regarding to be forced to upgrade every 6 month. You should add security updates daily, but you don't need to make more. 12.04 LTS was released April 2012 and is supported until April 2017. I tried Xubuntu and it was having similar problems with its parent Debian; these click sounds randomly. With Xubuntu 13.04 (included kernel 3.8 ported to its LTS), I was having additional problems like sound going down casually. You can customize what ever Linux distro you use by several levels. Even compiling a kernel yourself is easy to learn. It's easier to learn how to build a kernel, than to learn commands for RPM and DEB package management. I compiled a kernel by myself in another computer while trying to Gentoo in the past (yes, I gave it a try too). While I can see why compiling a kernel is logical in Gentoo, I have my doubts for Debian. My doubts are: 1. If I go ahead and compile a vanilla kernel from source, it would be excluded from Debian support obviously. But in this case, how can I do security updates without recompiling again and again? 2. From what I see, the main reason Debian is shipped with kernel 3.2 is that it is a long-term release. I would naturally do the same to ease the maintenance but in this case what advantage would it bring to compile a kernel by myself? 3. I read from internet that if you change the critical components like the kernel of Debian, the system would be less stable. So, how stable would Debian be if I attempt to change its core components? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262f300.3090...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On 19/10/13 04:46 PM, John Hasler wrote: Sureyya Sahin writes: Okay I installed the tools, it seems like it installed the daemon and the gui. But I can't see the gui from the applications menu in xfce. It's strange because it says that it's a gtk gui in the package description. So start it from the command line. I try it from the command-line ..$ smart-notifier nothing is happening? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262f3c4.60...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
The clicks could be caused by the HDD resetting the heads following an I/O failure. If the clicks are from the HDD then they won't go away with another OS. I didn't have the same problems with Fedora and opensuse in the past. I briefly tried Manjaro and it was working fine too. The problem I am having is with Debian based distros, for some reason that I can't figure out. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262f5b5.8040...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:04:04PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: I try it from the command-line ..$ smart-notifier nothing is happening? From the command-line, you probably want something along the lines of: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019211806.ga14...@gregn.net
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
From the command-line, you probably want something along the lines of: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more Greg Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of information: # smartctl -a /dev/sda | more smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: SAMSUNG SpinPoint M7E (AFT) Device Model: SAMSUNG HM641JI Serial Number:S25YJ9HB520979 LU WWN Device Id: 5 0024e9 2054c96e6 Firmware Version: 2AJ10003 User Capacity:640,135,028,736 bytes [640 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 6 Local Time is:Sat Oct 19 17:19:59 2013 EDT SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: ... SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262fa01.3060...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 15:06 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: OK, if it is the HDD that is causing the sound, why does it seem like it is randomly happening? I don't know. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382218687.705.21.camel@archlinux
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Debian is stable because it goes through a long period of ensuring that the individual programs are stable before each version is released. This means that it is generally old when it is released. Some other distributions don't go through the same amount of stabilizing so they can be more up to date. This is the basic tradeoff. If you find Debian is too old for you, you can switch to a distro that releases newer packages. There are a lot of Debian derivatives that you can try without going through compiling your own code. Again, Ubuntu and Mint are both popular. I am well-aware of what Debian can offer to me and what it cannot. By choosing Debian I already accepted to use old software (not necessarily optimized). I already read a lot about Debian before I gave it a try and I am aware of the work done before every release. But this kind of a problem I am having may be a show stopper to me... Unfortunately, both Ubuntu and Mint currently are not meeting my needs. I am afraid if I want a modern distro, I will go with an RPM based one because I don't see a Debian based alternative that would suit to my taste. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262fc20.1000...@yahoo.ca
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:30:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of information: All your edited version tells us is what drive this is. To actually know what shape the drive is in, we need to see the section that starts out something like: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019214404.gb14...@gregn.net
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On 19/10/13 05:44 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:30:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: Ok, I entered the command as root (not working as a regular user) and get this edited version (to keep my message short) of information: All your edited version tells us is what drive this is. To actually know what shape the drive is in, we need to see the section that starts out something like: SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: Greg OK, I guess this is the data you are asking for (I trimmed the other part again to make the message short): SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 100 100 051Pre-fail Always - 15 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0027 252 252 000Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0023 089 088 025Pre-fail Always - 3405 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 095 095 000Old_age Always - 5564 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 252 252 010Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002f 252 252 051Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0025 252 252 015Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 11541 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0033 252 252 051Pre-fail Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 098 098 000Old_age Always - 3020 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 097 097 000Old_age Always - 3833 183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 252 252 010Old_age Always - 0 184 End-to-End_Error0x0033 252 252 048Pre-fail Always - 0 186 Unknown_Attribute 0x0032 252 252 000Old_age Always - 0 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 1 188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 252 252 000Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0002 063 054 040Old_age Always - 37 (Min/Max 16/46) 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0022 100 100 000Old_age Always - 8504 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0022 252 252 000Old_age Always - 0 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032 035 035 000Old_age Always - 656598 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 063 054 000Old_age Always - 37 (Min/Max 16/46) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x003a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 252 252 000Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 252 252 000Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 252 252 000Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x0036 100 100 000Old_age Always - 1 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x002a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 677 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] Note: selective self-test log revision number (0) not 1 implies that no selective self-test has ever been run SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0 Note: revision number not 1 implies that no selective self-test has ever been run SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 100 Completed [00% left] (0-65535) 200 Not_testing 300 Not_testing 400 Not_testing 500 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5262feb1.4090...@yahoo.ca
Re: ukash hijacked iceweasel
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 12:46 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: I'm running iceweasel 17.0.9 which,as you know, is just a rebranded firefox. When I access mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new it tells me I'm using the latest version of firefox and doesn't give an option of downloading a new browser. Firefox and Firefox ESR are at version 24: http://www.mozilla.org/img/covehead/esr/release-overview.png http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all.html http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382219709.705.29.camel@archlinux
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 17:39 -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: Debian is stable because it goes through a long period of ensuring that the individual programs are stable before each version is released. This means that it is generally old when it is released. Some other distributions don't go through the same amount of stabilizing so they can be more up to date. This is the basic tradeoff. If you find Debian is too old for you, you can switch to a distro that releases newer packages. There are a lot of Debian derivatives that you can try without going through compiling your own code. Again, Ubuntu and Mint are both popular. I am well-aware of what Debian can offer to me and what it cannot. By choosing Debian I already accepted to use old software (not necessarily optimized). I already read a lot about Debian before I gave it a try and I am aware of the work done before every release. But this kind of a problem I am having may be a show stopper to me... Unfortunately, both Ubuntu and Mint currently are not meeting my needs. I am afraid if I want a modern distro, I will go with an RPM based one because I don't see a Debian based alternative that would suit to my taste. https://www.archlinux.org/ Absolutely in sync with upstream and more stable than Debian :p, but you have to set up Arch yourself. The install is without X, so without a DE. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue Arch Linux \r (\l) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382220407.705.34.camel@archlinux
google-earth-stable: no imagery.
Hi, Running uptodate Sid and google-earth-stable 7.1.1.1888-r0. I get political boundaries, roads, placenames, the weather but no imagery at all, just pure black. I see a bunch of these messages: ERROR:nss_ocsp.cc(581)] No URLRequestContext for OCSP handler. This strikes a bell with someone? The installation with multiarch was uneventful. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l3v0s8$pk1$1...@ger.gmane.org
no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder
:~$ ls -la total 8492368 drwxr-xr-x 3 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 04:00 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root4096 Oct 19 17:57 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan220 Apr 16 2013 .bash_logout -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan 3184 Apr 16 2013 .bashrc drwxr-xr-x 2 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 03:35 New directory -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan675 Apr 16 2013 .profile :~$ echo $HISTFILE /home/ykhan/.bash_history cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash any idea where these history files are. actually i need to do some accounting for my users , what they are doing actually with time tag set to ON. any help Thanks, Myk
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
https://www.archlinux.org/ Absolutely in sync with upstream and more stable than Debian :p, but you have to set up Arch yourself. The install is without X, so without a DE. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/issue Arch Linux \r (\l) Thank you for the suggestion. I tried both Arch linux and its popular derivative Manjaro briefly, I don't have a positive experience with any of them. Arch was having problems with my hardware as well with another computer. Additionally, I would prefer to use a real build yourself distro like Gentoo if I want to go through that direction. Gentoo would be better optimized for my system and probably be more stable. Manjaro is doing fine with my laptop's hardware, however, when I installed it, Manjaro gave me other problems with some of the programs I am currently using. Add it to the fact that it is prone to breaking since it is a rolling based distro. I don't find Arch and Manjaro stable, but I agree that they are sort of modern. But being in sync and up-to-date is a secondary criteria for me. I want a usable and stable linux like Debian rather than a modern and a problematic one. I guess if I can't use Debian, I will probably go with opensuse 13.1. It is reasonably modern yet stable and usable and it seems like I don't have another alternative for a binary based linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/526309cf.90...@yahoo.ca
Re: Advice on new desktop/building?
Hi Jen, I also assembled my first desktop quite recently and I'm running Linux in it. My target specs were significantly higher than yours, but the cost of all the parts was around $650. If you want, I can give you the listing of want I built as a guide and you just remove or replace each part with something that fits your target goal. (Note that I'm living in the US; the prices and availability in your area may be different.) Note that an alternative to assembling your own is to buy a barebone or small-factor PC from Newegg (under Computer hardware). These computers are usually sold without memory and disk, which is good because you can just add exactly what you want. The downside is that the CPUs are usually weaker or clocked down in order to fit into the small package and not run too hot. Another element to consider is that they might only support one output monitor. If you are assembling your own, you should decide which parts you will need and make sure that you have the appropriate connectors between them. Also, you should look at different places for the best prices on each part. I ended up buying parts some parts from MicroCenter and some from Newegg. In order to get the small form factor, you will most likely have to use a micro ATX or mini ITX motherboard. If you have a MicroCenter close to you, that's probably the best place to buy the motherboard and CPU. If you buy it as a bundle, you can get really good deals. I bought the AMD FX6300 with the ASRock Extreme and payed $170+tax for the bundle. (But, make sure to double-check all the prices at the register. In my case, the bundle discount was not applied automatically, for example.) You can get the same CPU with a micro ATX motherboard for $110+tax, and that's plenty of CPU... You will also need a case (make sure it supports the size of your motherboard), disk, memory, and maybe a graphics card (see below) and power supply. Note that if you buy a small factor case, some already have an integrated power supply, so check for that. The downside of the AMD/motherboard configuration I mentioned above is that you would have to add a graphics card. There are two solutions: you select a CPU with an integrated GPU, or add a graphics card. The fusion CPUs from AMD have integrated GPUs that are comparable to those of entry-level graphics cards but they are poorly supported in Linux, so you end up with basically the same thing as the integrated graphics on an Intel CPU. Alternatively, you can get basic graphics cards from Newegg for $30. For example, an Nvidia GeForce 210 costs $30 and has 3 outputs (note that the graphics card requires a power supply of at least 300W, which may be a problem with some of small cases). I'm suggesting Nvidia because it currently has much better driver support in Linux. Finally, note that although I pointed out AMD CPUs I'm not suggesting that they are better. I did so because, for the uses that you mentioned, they are cheaper and should provide more than enough compute power for several years. Hope this helps, Antonio On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum bg271...@yahoo.comwrote: My current desktop has been having some issues lately and I think its time to consider replacing it. Ive been having trouble finding exactly what I want, even tho' this is straightforward, so i though I'd ask here to get some advice, maybe even about building my own machine (which Ive never done but am willing to learn). This is to run Wheezy for simple desktop use--web surfing, running home music network, some videos, some coding, but no gaming, no video/sound editing, no real storage needs. I DO want: Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower), attractive SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just want the system to run fast) Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause that's the ports i have) Optical drive Lots of USB ports (3.0 not really necessary but wouldnt hurt I guess) Gigabit Ethernet Relatively quiet, energy efficient 8 GB RAM (for future-proofing, don't normally need much) I DONT want or don't care about: Massive speed and 16 cores (but want enough that I wont need to replace in a year) Fancy video card (built-in has always been fine, if I can watch movies that's all i need) Fancy sound card (I use USB into a DAC for serious things) Massive mechanical HD When i look at computers from HP or Lenovo, it looks like it costs a fortune to add a SSD (and i dont want to buy a separate one from Crucial and then have the original one in a box on my shelf) and memory. The cheaper machines seem to be worrisomely basic, like in a year they won't be able to run YouTube, and the more expensive ones still need upgrades of SSD and RAM. And in particular the smaller form factors tend to be pretty spendy. But i have literally no idea how to assemble a machine from scratch, and in trying to browse i
Re: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder
just sharing, root user got the .bash_history file. i can see all the commands with no issues with root user only On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.comwrote: :~$ ls -la total 8492368 drwxr-xr-x 3 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 04:00 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root4096 Oct 19 17:57 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan220 Apr 16 2013 .bash_logout -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan 3184 Apr 16 2013 .bashrc drwxr-xr-x 2 ykhan ykhan 4096 Aug 16 03:35 New directory -rw-r--r-- 1 ykhan ykhan675 Apr 16 2013 .profile :~$ echo $HISTFILE /home/ykhan/.bash_history cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash any idea where these history files are. actually i need to do some accounting for my users , what they are doing actually with time tag set to ON. any help Thanks, Myk
Usage of grep - Was: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder
On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 03:42 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep rocketmouse /etc/passwd rocketmouse:x:1000:1000::/home/rocketmouse:/bin/bash IOW if you use grep, then you don't need to use cat first. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1382223110.705.37.camel@archlinux
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 05:50:41PM -0400, Sureyya Sahin wrote: OK, I guess this is the data you are asking for (I trimmed the other part again to make the message short): Ok, according to what you posted, it looks to me like your drive is in very good shape. If you're hearing clicks now that you didn't hear before, I'd say it's not because the drive is going bad. They're probably caused by something else, but I have no clue what. If you're concerned that the drive has problems, you can try running tests like: smartctl -t short /dev/sda and check again with: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more after the time interval needed to test, to see what the results are. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-mana...@eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131019231818.ga19...@gregn.net
Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)
On 10/19/2013 3:50 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: ...snip.. Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers, mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term Engineer is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing board. The three states I've checked (Maryland, Texas and North Carolina) are all this way. I worked sub-contract for 18 yrs at a number of different companies in several states. In all cases the job title of engineer was universally used and carried no licensing requirement. .huge snip of gross over quoting.. Robert, Please see my previous post on this matter. Maryland definitely restricts it (I quoted the section from the code). New York may or may not; it's dependent on interpretation of the law. And although I didn't quote their codes, North Carolina and Texas also restrict it. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/526314e1.5070...@attglobal.net
Re: Advice on new desktop/building?
On 10/19/13 11:58, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: ... time to consider replacing [desktop computer]. ... This is to run Wheezy for simple desktop use--web surfing, running home music network, some videos, some coding, but no gaming, no video/sound editing, no real storage needs. I DO want: Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower), attractive SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just want the system to run fast) Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause that's the ports i have) Optical drive Lots of USB ports (3.0 not really necessary but wouldnt hurt I guess) Gigabit Ethernet Relatively quiet, energy efficient 8 GB RAM (for future-proofing, don't normally need much) I DONT want or don't care about: Massive speed and 16 cores (but want enough that I wont need to replace in a year) Fancy video card (built-in has always been fine, if I can watch movies that's all i need) Fancy sound card (I use USB into a DAC for serious things) Massive mechanical HD ... But i have literally no idea how to assemble a machine from scratch ... I've built many full tower desktop machines for myself and clients, and have had the best luck with Intel brand motherboards with integrated Intel graphics, Intel sound, and Intel networking, both in terms of long-term hardware reliability and in terms of software/ driver support (Windows, Linux, and *BSD). I've also assembled a few shoebox-sized machines, all by Shuttle. The original power supplies failed, but the replacements have lasted. They have problems booting when an external USB CD-ROM drive is connected (this makes it hard to install the OS, and is inconvenient when the machine is power cycled). Building small machines from scratch can get expensive, especially if you want silence. Intel's Next Unit of Computing product line looks appealing: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/nuc-family.html The smallest solution is no system case -- e.g. all-in-one PC's with the motherboard, drives, etc., built into the display or the base. Lenovo makes a model with a 27 IPS LCD/LED 2560x1440 display. I used a monitor like this briefly and it was *much* nicer than the dual-head 21 CRT 1600x1200 setup I had at the time. If you want very high-resolution displays (e.g. more than 1920x1080), pay careful attention to the graphics ports. I've only seen lots of USB ports on MicroATX and ATX motherboards. For what you're describing, 1 GB of memory would suffice. 2 GB would provide better video and caching. 4 GB is the most I'd go with. I have 8 GB in my primary machine because I don't use swap partitions and because I run virtualization (two 1 GB appliances and one 4 GB desktop, all without swap). I'd recommend an Intel 4th Generation Core i3 processor. If you want to do encrypted drives, get a processor with AES-NI and Secure Key: http://ark.intel.com/ If you want to do virtualization, get a processor with VT-x, VT-d, and EPT, and a supporting chipset/ motherboard: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-030922.htm It's nice to have a low-wattage processor, a high-efficiency power supply, and low-speed fans to minimize noise and heat. My primary machine has an Intel 520 series SSD system drive and a large Seagate 7200.14 HDD for data. The Intel 520's are supposed to have the best algorithms for managing flash memory; all I know is that they make any machine I put them into *much* more responsive. Note that you have to step up to the 180 GB model to get peak throughput. Putting bulk data on another drive keeps the system drive small (~7.5 GB used), making it convenient to take/ restore system drive images. Putting drives into caddies/ docking bays helps when you have more than one computer, especially when you want to copy/move bulk data. For assembly, there are several choices: 1. Find a retailer who will sell you the parts and assemble them for you (I believe Fry's Electronics charges $50). 2. Ask/ pay/ trade a geek friend to do it for you. 3. Look for a local Linux User's Group that is having an InstallFest. 4. Study up and do it your self. Be sure to buy an anti-static wrist strap. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52631585.8080...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Debian Wheezy - HP Pavilion dm1
Ok, according to what you posted, it looks to me like your drive is in very good shape. If you're hearing clicks now that you didn't hear before, I'd say it's not because the drive is going bad. They're probably caused by something else, but I have no clue what. If you're concerned that the drive has problems, you can try running tests like: smartctl -t short /dev/sda and check again with: smartctl -a /dev/sda |more after the time interval needed to test, to see what the results are. Greg My laptop is 1-2 years old. I would be very upset if something would go wrong with it. Yet, I am clueless on what is causing these click sounds, sometimes mixing with beeps on shutdown. And whether to leave it or be concerned about it. And why this is happening when I try a Debian based distro? S. Sahin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5263158a.4000...@yahoo.ca
Re: X crashes
Ed, It seems somehow you do not have the kernel modesetting (KMS) module loading during boot. https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting After you boot, check if the nouveau module has been loaded into the kernel space. If not, add it to /etc/modules. Hope this helps, Antonio On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Ed Jabbour e...@att.net wrote: ** Running testing, and using the nouveau driver for a GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M GPU. X sporadically crashes to a black screen where things scroll by too fast for me to read. I’ve tried to examine kern.log and Xorg.0.log, as well as google searches. Xorg.0.log shows an error: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE [ 51.593] (EE) Failed to load module “modesetting” (module does not exist, 0) and three warnings: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep WW [ 51.593] (WW) Warning, couldn’t open module modesetting [ 51.636] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa [ 51.637] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev fbdev* and vesa are then unloaded: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep fbdev [ 51.654] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=”X.Org Foundation” [ 52.011] (II) UnloadModule: “fbdev” [ 52.011] (II) Unloading fbdev [ 52.011] (II) UnloadSubModule: “fbdevhw” [ 52.012] (II) Unloading fbdevhw [ 51.628] (II) Module fbdev: vendor=”X.Org Foundation” [ 52.011] (II) UnloadModule: “fbdev” [ 52.011] (II) Unloading fbdev [ 52.011] (II) UnloadSubModule: “fbdevhw” [ 52.012] (II) Unloading fbdevhw cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep vesa [ 51.266] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4 [ 51.564] (II) LoadModule: “vesa” [ 51.565] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so [ 51.592] (II) Module vesa: vendor=”X.Org Foundation” [ 51.630] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa [ 51.636] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa [ 52.011] (II) UnloadModule: “vesa” [ 52.011] (II) Unloading vesa KMS is enabled in the kernel: cat /boot/config-3.10-3-686-pae|grep -i kms CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y Might any of this be related to the X crash? I don’t think so, but then ...
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? [snip] Perl would be the next step up, but if awk is not allowed then perl certainly won't be. Regards, /Lars yes, the whole system size a extremely limited, so the only possible way is to find a suitable C lib to handle this. What a big task -- /Thanks Best Regrads! / /Nicol TAO (taozhijiang)/ /Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China 518055 / /Being Stronger!!!/
Re: Usage of grep - Was: no .bash_hostory file was found in user home folder
On 20.Okt.2013, at 00:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 03:42 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: cat /etc/passwd | grep ykhan ykhan:x:19000:19000:ykhan,,,:/home/ykhan:/bin/bash [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep rocketmouse /etc/passwd rocketmouse:x:1000:1000::/home/rocketmouse:/bin/bash IOW if you use grep, then you don't need to use cat first. I find myself doing this on occasion. Sometimes it seems quicker to add the pipe to the previous command than to modify the whole thing. Knowing your shell's command line shortcut's helps with that, at least maybe. I recommend the emacs tutorial (bash command line navigation is emacs-ish by default) -- Markus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/753e1b0b-cb41-4a06-a31f-e8e621d7e...@gmail.com
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
Hack on busybox. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txgck9ok@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Advice on new desktop/building?
Small or smallish form factor (currently using a slim tower), attractive SSD (small capacity--everything impt is on a NAS elsewhere, i just want the system to run fast) Ability to have two monitors (currently using VGA and HDMI 'cause that's the ports i have) Optical drive Lots of USB ports (3.0 not really necessary but wouldnt hurt I guess) Gigabit Ethernet Relatively quiet, energy efficient 8 GB RAM (for future-proofing, don't normally need much) I have an mini-ITX board which fits the bill (Zotac E350 fusion). Best part: it's fanless, i.e. no moving part at all (other than the optical drive, that is, and maybe the power supply's fan, depending on which power supply you use). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvr4bg8y23.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
陶治江 wrote: I am now focusing on the development of a script interpretor (some thing like shell) in embedded environment, and its functions mainly output the data in specified address. In order to make it seems better, I want to format the output result like MySQL output listed below for example ... permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? Check out perl formats. man perlform It was one of the original things that put the rl for report language into perl. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
陶治江 wrote: 于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? [snip] Perl would be the next step up, but if awk is not allowed then perl certainly won't be. Regards, /Lars yes, the whole system size a extremely limited, so the only possible way is to find a suitable C lib to handle this. Maybe a silly thought, but: Since your model is MySQL output, maybe take a look at the MySQL source code and see how it's done there. There's actually a tour of the source code here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/guided-tour.html - which might help you find where that printing is done. Just took a really quick look at the mysql client code (at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysql/mysql-server/5.6/files/head:/client/) - and all I saw were printf statements. Doesn't look like any fancy libraries or tools are being used. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52634724.4050...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Jessie Minimum Kernel Requirement
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:30:46PM -0300, Beco wrote: Yep, I confirm. I did this on my personal computers and two servers a while back. Kind of confusing... I almost lost one of the servers. I hope as time and Debian evolves, these procedures go safer and safer. Several transitions may take place in sid/testing over the life of a stable release, hence when it comes time to upgrade to the next stable there may be a couple of gotchas. But all this will be documented in the releasenotes and must be read *BEFORE* doing the upgrade. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131020030501.GC23383@tal
Re: How to format the command output like MySQL output
On 10/19/2013 9:17 PM, 陶治江 wrote: 于 2013-10-20 0:53, Lars Noodén 写道: On 19.10.2013 19:35, 陶治江 wrote: [snip] I think it seems good like this, but I do not know how to make out it.(someone says awk, sed may help, but the environment does not permit it). Is there some libs or tools can help make output result good and elegent? [snip] Perl would be the next step up, but if awk is not allowed then perl certainly won't be. Regards, /Lars yes, the whole system size a extremely limited, so the only possible way is to find a suitable C lib to handle this. What a big task -- /Thanks Best Regrads! / /Nicol TAO (taozhijiang)/ /Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China 518055 / /Being Stronger!!!/ How do they expect you do to your job if they won't give you the necessary tools? Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52634b58.1050...@attglobal.net
Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)
[How about being a bit more proactive with the trimming, guys.] On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:19:13PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Take windows, and say honestly that it does not contains applications? explorer, mspaint, calc, msconfig, notepad, etc. Those are applications, nothing more, nothing less, and they are part of the OS. Unless I am very much mistaken, IE is heavily tied in with the OS code. That is a big part of what is wrong with the design. I don't know if things have changed in that regard. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131020033233.GF23383@tal
