date:20141020

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

 El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
 Camaleón escribió:
 
No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado
 
 Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
 de ir filtrando listeros.

Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin 
ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no 
me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes de 
ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se 
atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es problema 
de ellos.

Saludos,

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Problema con KPGP (era: hola me pueden ayudar)

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 15:19:06 -0430, Carlos Viaje escribió:

(recuerda desactivar el formato html cuando envíes mensajes a la lista y usar 
un Asunto acorde con el problema)

 hola tengo en un laptop debian wheezy kde y al intentar iniciar kgpg me
 sale un falla y dice lo siguiente (Ha fallado el inicio de GnuPG.
 Debe corregir el error de GnuPG antes de ejecutar KGpg.)

¿Y no te da más detalles? Intenta ejecuta kpgp desde una consola por si 
te diera más información del error de GnuPG.

En Google tienes más datos de ese mensaje:

https://www.google.es/search?q=GnuPG+failed+to+start.+%3EYou+must+fix+the+GnuPG+error+first+before+running+KGpg

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Re: Qué significa este error fatalísimo


On 2014-10-18 18:40, Darío wrote:

Buenas a todas y todos, hace una semana quise instalar cclive, al
darle al comando aptitude install cclive me preguntó una serie de
cosas que sinceramente no recuerdo por las razones que voy a detallar.

Al parecer lo que recuerdo es que informó sobre una posible
eliminación de paquetes, en especial recuerdo uno que aproximadamente
se denominaba architect o algo así.

El problema estribó al bajar la tapa de la notebook, ya que cuando la
levanté no apareció el entorno gráfico, aparentaba un cuelgue, me
recordó cuando utilizaba windows jajaja cuánto hace ya! Bueno lo que
hice fue apagarla del botón y volverla a prender y ahí murió todo,
intenté en los dos modos y nada

Los errores se ven en estos archivos de imagen:
http://s2.subirimagenes.com/fotos/previo/thump_9120836img2014101100184.jpg
http://s2.subirimagenes.com/fotos/previo/thump_9120841img2014101100185.jpg

Ahora ya fue, porque reinstalé todo de nuevo (he vuelto a mi querido
squeeze), después de dos años y medio sin problemas con wheezy, pero
estoy seguro que se debe al haber eliminado el enigmático paquete, mas
no a un problema del sistema. Otro detalle que no creo que influya
demasiado es que usaba aptitude desde un proxy, por lo que había
modificado el archivo /etc/apt/sources.list.d/proxy que lo creé con
una línea adicional para usarlo con el proxy que necesitaba en ese
momento.

Perdón por no saber bien qué sucedió pero como no pude volver a ver
las cosas sinceramente no recuerdo bien a qué le dí eliminar.

Saludos!


Podrías ver el log de apt (/var/log) para ver que se te ha desinstalado.

Se alcanza a ver swicth_root: cannot execute /sbin/init: no such file 
or directory, puede que falte este archivo, en google aparece mucha 
info al respecto.



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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread fernando sainz

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

 El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
 Camaleón escribió:

No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado

 Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
 de ir filtrando listeros.

 Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
 ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
 me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

 Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes de
 ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se
 atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es problema
 de ellos.

 Saludos,

 --
 Camaleón



Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
que la lista no es tuya.
Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

-- Respondes a todo (y a la lista para mas inri), OT, mensajes sin
fundamento, hasta los que llegan por error.
-- Respondes con lo mismo que han respondido otros por tu mala
costumbre de usar filtritos y de no leer las respuestas de los
demás... (salvo a veces me da la sensación de que cuando no sabes algo
esperas a que alguien responda para luego buscar en google y acaparar
protagonismo, no se cual es el motivo de esa obsesión.)
-- Jamás aceptas las opiniones de los demás y siempre has de llevarte
la razón, convirtiendo la lista en una especie de chat personal.
-- La mayor parte de tus respuestas son búsquedas en google, con dos
malos efectos, haces que la gente pase de buscar y luego dejas enlaces
en la lista que pasado el tiempo podrán dejar de existir.

¿quieres que siga...?

No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...


Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.


S2.


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Re: Recomendaciones par File Server de alta disponnibilidad

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:38:14 -0430, Vincent Romero escribió:

 Buenas a todos.
 
 Quiero contar con su sabiduria y me comenten que paquete es recomendado
 para realizar replicacion en vivo de alta disponibilidad.
 
 Tengo planteado montar un servidor SMB, pero planteo tener dos servidores
 para tener alta disponibilidad, y que en estos dos servidores este la misma
 data.

Te paso algunos enlaces interesantes por si te dan ideas:

Chapter 32. High Availability
https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SambaHA.html

Setting Up a High Availability Samba Service
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/2.1/html/Cluster_Manager_Installation_and_Administration/s1-service-samba.html

Chapter 18. Samba Clustering
http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/SLE-HA/SLE-ha-guide_sd_draft/cha.ha.samba.html

Samba
http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/Samba

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Re: Recomendaciones par File Server de alta disponnibilidad


On 2014-10-19 23:08, Vincent Romero wrote:

Buenas a todos.

Quiero contar con su sabiduria y me comenten que paquete es
recomendado para realizar replicacion en vivo de alta disponibilidad.

Tengo planteado montar un servidor SMB, pero planteo tener dos
servidores para tener alta disponibilidad, y que en estos dos
servidores este la misma data.

Saludos


Vincent te paso un par de links que te pueden servir:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/2.1/html/Cluster_Manager_Installation_and_Administration/s1-service-samba.html

http://doc.opensuse.org/products/draft/SLE-HA/SLE-ha-guide_sd_draft/cha.ha.samba.html

https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SambaHA.html


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Re: Error boot


On 2014-10-18 14:14, Marcos Germán Capelari wrote:

Hola,

Tengo un server de test al cual tiene un par de maquinas virtuales,
esta mañana cuando fui a encender una de ellas me ocurrió lo
siguiente:

mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)

y el server no levanto mas. Accedi desde un live-CD y el log me tiro
lo siguiente:

1.470033] EXT4-fs (dm-0): INFO: recovery required on readonly
filesystem
[1.470035] EXT4-fs (dm-0): write access will be enabled during
recovery
[1.681641] EXT4-fs (dm-0): orphan cleanup on readonly fs
[1.734519] input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse as
/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3
[1.829655] EXT4-fs (dm-0): 9 orphan inodes deleted
[1.829659] EXT4-fs (dm-0): recovery complete
[1.848803] EXT4-fs (dm-0): mounted filesystem with ordered data
mode. Opts: (null)
[2.912123] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
[9.573340] Adding 3903484k swap on /dev/mapper/vg00-swaplv.
Priority:-1 extents:1 across:3903484k FS
[9.753100] EXT4-fs (dm-0): re-mounted. Opts:
errors=remount-ro,acl,user_xattr,usrquota,grpquota,acl

estoy buscando algo de información en la red, alguien tiene alguna
idea?



Te diría que hagas un backup de la info si es que te deja e inicies con 
un LiveCD y hagas un chequeo de disco fsck



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Re: Realtek Device 8179 (rev 01)


On 2014-10-18 21:03, Ricardo Zúñiga wrote:

Estimados,

Después de estar buscando por días como instalar los drivers Realtek
8189 me veo en la necesidad de recurrir ya que me fue imposible poder
levantarla.

Datos:
# lspci | grep Network
04:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device
8179 (rev 01)

# uname -a
Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64
GNU/Linux

Si necesitan algo mas, estare atento a cualquier comentario

Desde ya gracias
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Prueba instalando 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.43~bpo70+1_all.deb, 
tuve un problema similar hace unas semanas y con eso levantó



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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread Juan Gomez (Txonta)



El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:


El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
Camaleón escribió:


No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado

Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
de ir filtrando listeros.

Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes de
ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se
atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es problema
de ellos.

Saludos,

--
Camaleón



Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
que la lista no es tuya.
Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

-- Respondes a todo (y a la lista para mas inri), OT, mensajes sin
fundamento, hasta los que llegan por error.
-- Respondes con lo mismo que han respondido otros por tu mala
costumbre de usar filtritos y de no leer las respuestas de los
demás... (salvo a veces me da la sensación de que cuando no sabes algo
esperas a que alguien responda para luego buscar en google y acaparar
protagonismo, no se cual es el motivo de esa obsesión.)
-- Jamás aceptas las opiniones de los demás y siempre has de llevarte
la razón, convirtiendo la lista en una especie de chat personal.
-- La mayor parte de tus respuestas son búsquedas en google, con dos
malos efectos, haces que la gente pase de buscar y luego dejas enlaces
en la lista que pasado el tiempo podrán dejar de existir.

¿quieres que siga...?

No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...


Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.


S2.

Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
Y se aprendería menos.
Saludos


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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

El Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:17:31 +0200, Juan Gomez (Txonta) escribió:

 El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:
 El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

 Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes
 de ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se
 atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es
 problema de ellos.



 Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda que
 la lista no es tuya.
 Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

(...)

Otro que tengo filtrado, es consciente de ello y sigue hablando con un 
muro. Si es que no falla.

 Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
 Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
 Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
 Y se aprendería menos.
 Saludos

Gracias, ya he aprendido a curarme en salud y los filtros siguen 
demostrando que funcionan de maravilla :-)

Saludos,

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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread Manolo Díaz



El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:
 El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

 El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
 Camaleón escribió:

 No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado
 Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
 de ir filtrando listeros.
 Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
 ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
 me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

 Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes de
 ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se
 atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es problema
 de ellos.

 Saludos,

 --
 Camaleón


 Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
 que la lista no es tuya.
 Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

 -- Respondes a todo (y a la lista para mas inri), OT, mensajes sin
 fundamento, hasta los que llegan por error.
 -- Respondes con lo mismo que han respondido otros por tu mala
 costumbre de usar filtritos y de no leer las respuestas de los
 demás... (salvo a veces me da la sensación de que cuando no sabes algo
 esperas a que alguien responda para luego buscar en google y acaparar
 protagonismo, no se cual es el motivo de esa obsesión.)
 -- Jamás aceptas las opiniones de los demás y siempre has de llevarte
 la razón, convirtiendo la lista en una especie de chat personal.
 -- La mayor parte de tus respuestas son búsquedas en google, con dos
 malos efectos, haces que la gente pase de buscar y luego dejas enlaces
 en la lista que pasado el tiempo podrán dejar de existir.

 ¿quieres que siga...?

 No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...


 Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.


 S2.
Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
Y se aprendería menos.

¿Seguro? Me gustaría saber cuántas personas, después de haber aplicado
la solución, se han molestado en comprender qué es lo que hacía
realmente la receta y cuántas simplemente han pasado página. 

Debería darte que pensar el hecho de que los más veteranos estén en
contra de dicha costumbre (y, al parecer, filtrados).

Saludos

Saludos.
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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread fernando sainz

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 19:17, Juan Gomez (Txonta)
juantxo...@gmail.com escribió:

El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
Camaleón escribió:

No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado

Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
de ir filtrando listeros.

Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

Además, la mayoría de los usuarios que tengo filtrados son conscientes de
ello porque se lo he dicho en correo aparte y ya saben a lo que se
atienen cuando me responden. Si quieren responder a un muro es problema
de ellos.

Saludos,

--
Camaleón

Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
que la lista no es tuya.
Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

-- Respondes a todo (y a la lista para mas inri), OT, mensajes sin
fundamento, hasta los que llegan por error.
-- Respondes con lo mismo que han respondido otros por tu mala
costumbre de usar filtritos y de no leer las respuestas de los
demás... (salvo a veces me da la sensación de que cuando no sabes algo
esperas a que alguien responda para luego buscar en google y acaparar
protagonismo, no se cual es el motivo de esa obsesión.)
-- Jamás aceptas las opiniones de los demás y siempre has de llevarte
la razón, convirtiendo la lista en una especie de chat personal.
-- La mayor parte de tus respuestas son búsquedas en google, con dos
malos efectos, haces que la gente pase de buscar y luego dejas enlaces
en la lista que pasado el tiempo podrán dejar de existir.

¿quieres que siga...?

No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...

Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.

S2.

Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
Y se aprendería menos.
Saludos

Si estas de acuerdo con esas costumbres/malos hábitos que yo he
criticado es que no sabes nada del correcto funcionamiento de la
lista.
También puede ser que seas uno de esos que se aprovecha de la buena
voluntad de esa persona, cosa que como ves no he criticado.

En esta lista estamos todos para ayudar y aprender. La idea es
aprender de la experiencia de los demás no que otros hagan nuestro
trabajo de búsqueda.

No creo que se aprendería menos, simplemente aprenderías a pescar en
vez de esperar que alguien pesque por ti.

Desde que esta persona está en la lista, ha bajado muchísimo el nivel
de las preguntas y respuestas que se ven por aquí. (Llevo algunos años
leyendo y participando en esta lista, desde el 98 creo, así que sé de
lo que hablo...)

S2.

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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread Felix Perez

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 14:17, Juan Gomez (Txonta)
juantxo...@gmail.com escribió:

El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
Camaleón escribió:

No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado

Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
de ir filtrando listeros.

Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

Saludos,

--
Camaleón

Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
que la lista no es tuya.
Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

¿quieres que siga...?

No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...

Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.

S2.

Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
Y se aprendería menos.
Saludos

Por el contrario estimado, todas la teorías del aprendizaje dan valor
a hacer las cosas por uno mismo para generar un verdadero aprendizaje.
aprender a aprender y aprender a hacer. Lo que aquí se ha estado
promoviendo es la pereza intelectual, ya que les dan todo masticadito,
incluso digerido.

Yo ya no insisto, pues a mi parecer veo un trasfondo psicopatológico,
y sin terapia difícil bregar con ello.

Saludos.

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Re: start job is running hace varios minutos

2014-10-20 Thread Felix Perez

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 14:55, fernando sainz
fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:
El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 19:17, Juan Gomez (Txonta)
juantxo...@gmail.com escribió:

El 20/10/14 a las 17:37, fernando sainz escribió:

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 16:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:

El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:52:00 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

El domingo, 19 oct 2014 a las 17:21 horas (UTC+2),
Camaleón escribió:

No había visto la respuesta de Santiago porque lo tengo filtrado

Una magnífica manera de convertir la lista en una jaula de grillos esa
de ir filtrando listeros.

Al contrario, así todos ganamos: quienes quieren decir barbaridades sin
ton ni son siguen haciendo lo mismo (libertad de despotrique) y a mí no
me duelen los ojos (libertad de omisión).

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Perdona, pero no me incluyas, a mi me resulta muy molesto, recuerda
que la lista no es tuya.
Estoy ya muy hartito de tus malos hábitos:

¿quieres que siga...?

No es malo ser tonto, lo malo es jactarse de ello...

Disculpas al resto de la lista, pero es que me resulta realmente cargante.

S2.

Solo quiero romper una lanza por Camaleon. Y decir un par de cosas.
Gracias por esas malas costumbres.
Sin esta persona la lista seria otra cosa seguro.
Y se aprendería menos.
Saludos

Si estas de acuerdo con esas costumbres/malos hábitos que yo he
criticado es que no sabes nada del correcto funcionamiento de la
lista.
No le ienteresa, no esta suscrita a la lista, lo ha dicho un par de veces.

También puede ser que seas uno de esos que se aprovecha de la buena
voluntad de esa persona, cosa que como ves no he criticado.

En esta lista estamos todos para ayudar y aprender. La idea es
aprender de la experiencia de los demás no que otros hagan nuestro
trabajo de búsqueda.
Así no alimentas el ego.

No creo que se aprendería menos, simplemente aprenderías a pescar en
vez de esperar que alguien pesque por ti.

Ya lo exprese, se aprendería más y eso precisamente es enseñar a pescar.

Completamente de acuerdo.

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Re: Debian Wheezy no tiene sonido (linuxero novato)

2014-10-20 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena

Con fecha Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2014, 06:54:00 p.m., Favian escribió:
 Les escribo con un sentimiento de agradecimiento por este gran
 sistema operativo

Agradece a los desarrolladores, por aquí estamos en CALIDAD de
usuarios (algunos más expertos que otros pero usuarios al fin).
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

 , es genial PERO tengo solo una semana utilizándolo
 e probado dos distro, ubuntu y elementary os, decidí quedarme con
 Debian por su interfaz muy accesible y manejable

Bueno... si es por la interfaz te comento que casi a cualquier
Distribución se le puede cambiar la interfaz.
Ubuntu por defecto viene con Unity que es una porquería y que hace
lento a todo el sistema.
Debian lo puedes conseguir con distintas interfaces...
Yo prefiero XFCE por ser muy ágil, liviana, rápida y estable. LXDE
es más liviana todavía pero... hay veces que presenta (unos pocos)
problemas.
Otra interfaz linda y liviana es Enlightenment la que estoy probando
su última versión E19 y por el momento está alucinante.

Las intefaces se puede instalar muy rápido mediante consola o
Synaptics...

Para instalar LXDE desde consola escribir:

sudo apt-get install lxde

Si no te gusta lo remueves desde consola:

sudo apt-get remove lxde

Puedes tener 1, 2 o más gestores de escritorios en la máquina (usado sólo uno al
mismo tiempo)

 en mi computador desktop genérico no da sonido. Intente a mi estilo:
 seguir varias guías paso a paso sin embargo no he dado con la solución.
 La verdad estuve a punto de rendirme y cambiar de distro pero seguí
 explorando alternativas y por no encontrarlas respuesta aquí estoy
 escribiendo este correo con la esperanza que me puedan ayudar sin
 olvidar que solo llevo una semana usando linux y teniendo en cuenta
 también que no me rindo fácilmente y estos muy dispuesto a aplicar
 las soluciones.

¡Hey! ¡que es eso de no te rindes fácilmente! ¿Para tanto es...?

Hm... ¡Que esto no es Windows! los problemas de sonido se
solucionan fácil en LINUX... nada que ver con Windows que para
encontrar un put# drivers hay que dar mil vuletas

 En las soluciones que he intentado hasta ahora he quedado a medias
 porque aveces la terminal dice: tal paquete no se puede encontrar o
 este archivo no se puede ejecutar  (parafraseando, obviamente no es
 el lenguaje de la terminal)

Si en la terminal te dice... que no se ha podido encontrar tal
paquete seguramente el primer problema que debes solucionar es con
los repositorios puesto que quizás tengas mal las direcciones (LO
DUDO) o que no hayas destildado la opcion de buscar en CD...

Fijate en Synaptics...
configuración / repositorios

Y fijate si apuntan bien...

 les adjunto una captura de pantalla de cuando reinicio el
 computador y sale un warning relacionado con alsa.

En la lista NO se aceptan adjuntos... así que si mandaste algo por
adjunto no se ha podido ver.

Veamos...
Tienes ALSA...

prueba con PULSE AUDIO (a mi me anda mejor)
apt-get remove alsa-base (remueve ALSA)

apt-get install pulseaudio (instala Pulse)

Fijate también si los mixer están bien y si los ajustes de volumen
están al máximo... en el caso de ALSA es alsamixer en el caso de pulse
pavucontrol.

El sonido en Debian (y todo linux) no trae mayores problemas, salvo
que usas cosas muyyy sofisticadas.


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Re: hola me pueden ayudar

2014-10-20 Thread Eduardo Jorge Gil Michelena

Con fecha Domingo, 19 de Octubre de 2014, 04:49:06 p.m., Carlos escribió:
 hola tengo en un laptop debian wheezy kde y al intentar iniciar
 kgpg me sale un falla y dice lo siguiente (Ha fallado el inicio de GnuPG.
 Debe corregir el error de GnuPG antes de ejecutar KGpg.)

Vamos a ver si te podemos ayudar...
Primero: Escribe los mensajes en formato SÓLO texto, NO en HTML.
Segundo: Pon en el asunto (o subject) un texto que sea
representativo del tema que se trata en el mensaje.
Tercero: kgpg es un gestor criptogáfico ¿Necesitas hacer uso de ello?
sino lo puedes deshabilitar y te ahorras problemas, espacio y procesos
corriendo.


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Re: Realtek Device 8179 (rev 01) [SOLUCIONADO]

 firmware-realtek_0.43~bpo70+1_all.deb

El 20 de octubre de 2014, 13:53, felixtorp...@openmailbox.org escribió:

 On 2014-10-18 21:03, Ricardo Zúñiga wrote:

 Estimados,

 Después de estar buscando por días como instalar los drivers Realtek
 8189 me veo en la necesidad de recurrir ya que me fue imposible poder
 levantarla.

 Datos:
 # lspci | grep Network
 04:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device
 8179 (rev 01)

 # uname -a
 Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 Si necesitan algo mas, estare atento a cualquier comentario

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 Prueba instalando
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.43~bpo70+1_all.deb,
tuve un problema similar hace unas semanas y con eso levantó


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Si estimado, con ese paquete se soluciona y levanta.

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Re: Qué significa este error fatalísimo

2014-10-20 Thread Darío

 Podrías ver el log de apt (/var/log) para ver que se te ha desinstalado.

 Se alcanza a ver swicth_root: cannot execute /sbin/init: no such file or
 directory, puede que falte este archivo, en google aparece mucha info al
 respecto.

El problema es que no tenía ningún tipo de acceso posible, ya que ese
pantallazo sucedía ni bien seleccionaba el sistema operativo en GRUB,
no tenía posibilidad de ver la consola de comandos.


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Problemas teclado

Estimados,

Tengo un notebook HP 14-d007

El problema es que las teclas f1, f2, f3 ... f12 funcionan al revés es
decir para poder recargar una pagina en mi navegador debo presionar fn+f5.

intenté con:
dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

Pero sigue igual no se por donde empezar

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Re: [SPAM] Re: [OT] Proposición para preservar la libertad de elección del sistema de inicio

2014-10-20 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:01:33 -0700
latin...@vcn.bc.ca escribió:

  El Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:46:20 -0700
  latin...@vcn.bc.ca escribió:
 
  El 18 de octubre de 2014 11:38:10 AM GMT-05:00, Santiago Vila
  sanv...@unex.es escribió:
  Claro porque por ejemplo en Windows, Red-Hat y FreeBSD los usuarios sí
  tienen voto...
 
  Hola Santiago
 
  El primer ordenador que llego a mis manos, fue un HP-86 1982 yo no hago
  programas; pero fue utilizado para escribir un modelo economico que
  hicimos 3 expertos, costo $ 27,000.00, y desde entonces veo que las
  personas que hacen programas, se imaginan que son lo maximo en el mundo
  y
  que deberian tener una posicion privilegiada. No existe nada mas alejado
  de la realidad. Un campesino es mas util que todos ellos juntos; a el
  NO
  le pueden apagar el sol! A los genios, basta con desconectarles el
  ordenador.
 
 
  A un campesino le quitas la tierra y se acabo el asunto
 
 
 Bueno, creo que debo pedirte disculpas; no se me ocurrio que lo que es
 facil para algunos, bien podria ser dificil de entender para otros. Lo
 siento.
 

si te es tan dificil entender solo tenes que pedir ayuda

 
  Con esta cuestion de Systemd, es muy facil, ver que clase de seres
  humanos
  son los que lo quieren imponer; antes de opinar, me he leido cientos
  de
  mensajes en 5 idomas, y veo mas de lo mismo; personas totalmente
  autoritarias y con escazo sentido comun. Es el reflejo de lo que hacian
  y
  hacen los descendientes de los Romanos; se ponen frente a frente miles
  de
  hombres y se matan, todo por demostrar poder. Eso no lo ha hecho ninguna
  cultura nativa de America!
 
 
 
  Esto ultimo es muy facil de rebatir:
  Los incas y los aztecas son el primer ekjemplo que se me ocurre de
  dominacion
 
 
 No recuerdo haber dicho que mi opinion, fuera dificil de rebatir; de hecho
 las opiniones personales, NO son rebatibles; por eso se les llama
 opinion, y como dicen algunos Espanoles, en forma pintorezca: las
 opiniones, son como el culo; cada quien tiene el suyo.
 
 
No, no opinaste, afirmaste, en ningun momento dice yo creo que..  o  yo 
opino..
afirmas tajantemente

  En fin, sigue vigente la alternativa OpenBSD, que por lo menos NO
  enganan
  con la bandera de la libertad. Yo no me imagino lo que dira Ian Murdock,
  el verdadero dueno de Debian!
 
 
  Debian es de quienes lo hacen, yo pregunto por que deberis opinar si no
  sos parte de quienes hacen debian
  Por que no pinas tambiensobre la fabricacion de autos?
  Cualquiera puede opinar sobre cuestiones tecnicas? NO
  Espero que te vaya bien con openbsd
 
 
 Yo respeto tu opinion, pero la mia es: Debian es de los que lo han creado
 y lo mantienen, eso incluye a su creador, todos los DDs que han
 colaborado y colaboran, los MDs que han colaborado y colaboran, los
 usuarios que han colaborado haciendo pruebas y siguen colaborando. Como se
 puede ver, ya es un ente, por eso lo quieren los ladrones comerciantes.
 
Nadie quiere quedarse con Debian, de hecho es muy facil copiarlo, 
Si no, mira ubuntu y derivados

 Me preguntas, que por que deberia opinar si no soy parte de quienes hacen
 Debian; te equivocas; he mantenido una maquina para pruebas por muchos
 anos, he enviado contribuciones en dinero para muchas actividades en
 diferentes paises, apoyo grupos locales que usan exclusivamente Debian,
 coordino actividades para reciclar hardware mal llamado obsoleto y otras
 tonterias igual de insignificantes.

Eso no te da derecho a votar. la constitucion de Debian es  clara con respecto 
a eso, es pecificamente el punto 2 y vos no entras en ninguna de las 6 
categorias alli nombradas. Eso si, podes seguir opinando libremente en cuanta 
lista o foro se te ocurra.
 
 
 Decir que me vaya bien con OpenBSD, es odio puro, ya que eso no es de tu
 incunvencia, asi que disfruta el sabor de la envidia y la impotencia;
 quizas deberias de cortarte las venas, digo yo para perjudicarme, no?

Esto es realmente comico de tu parte.
Quien trae a colacion el uso de openbsd?? yo??
vos crees que vales tanto como para que yo haga algo que te perjudique?? date 
un baño de realidad

 
  Hasta luego.
hasta nunca
 
 
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Duda conceptual sobre como ubicar script de iptables

2014-10-20 Thread adriancito


Hola Lista.

Hace 1 año que no me conectaba a un router en Debian 6 en el cual tengo 
implementado un script de iptables.


Ahora bien, la pregunta es esta, como puedo buscar cual es el script 
que se ejecuta al inicio?


He mirado en /etc/rc.local y no hay nada.

Pero no recuerdo como seguir buscando en los distintos rc... o cual 
sería la manera mas adecuada de encontrar el script que se está 
ejecutando en cada inicio?


Muchas Gracias!!!

Saludos.


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Re: Duda conceptual sobre como ubicar script de iptables

2014-10-20 Thread Flako

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 12:33, adriancito
adrianfran...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola Lista.

 Hace 1 año que no me conectaba a un router en Debian 6 en el cual tengo
 implementado un script de iptables.

 Ahora bien, la pregunta es esta, como puedo buscar cual es el script que
 se ejecuta al inicio?

 He mirado en /etc/rc.local y no hay nada.

 Pero no recuerdo como seguir buscando en los distintos rc... o cual sería la
 manera mas adecuada de encontrar el script que se está ejecutando en cada
 inicio?

 Muchas Gracias!!!

 Saludos.

 yo correría  'grep iptables /etc/ -R'  y de ahí vería cual es el
script (suponiendo que esta en /etc)


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Re: Duda conceptual sobre como ubicar script de iptables

2014-10-20 Thread fernando sainz

El día 20 de octubre de 2014, 17:33, adriancito
adrianfran...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola Lista.

 Hace 1 año que no me conectaba a un router en Debian 6 en el cual tengo
 implementado un script de iptables.

 Ahora bien, la pregunta es esta, como puedo buscar cual es el script que
 se ejecuta al inicio?

 He mirado en /etc/rc.local y no hay nada.

 Pero no recuerdo como seguir buscando en los distintos rc... o cual sería la
 manera mas adecuada de encontrar el script que se está ejecutando en cada
 inicio?

 Muchas Gracias!!!

 Saludos.

Creo que esto no está muy estandarizado, cada distribución lo gestiona
de una manera.
En Debian creo recordar que había un paquete llamado
iptables-pesistent para eso.

S2.


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Re: Realtek Device 8179 (rev 01) [Solucionado]

Gracias

El 20 de octubre de 2014, 13:53, felixtorp...@openmailbox.org escribió:

 On 2014-10-18 21:03, Ricardo Zúñiga wrote:

 Estimados,

 Después de estar buscando por días como instalar los drivers Realtek
 8189 me veo en la necesidad de recurrir ya que me fue imposible poder
 levantarla.

 Datos:
 # lspci | grep Network
 04:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device
 8179 (rev 01)

 # uname -a
 Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 Si necesitan algo mas, estare atento a cualquier comentario

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 Prueba instalando http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-
 nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.43~bpo70+1_all.deb, tuve un problema similar
 hace unas semanas y con eso levantó


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Re: Problemas teclado

2014-10-20 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2014-10-20 15:18 GMT-05:00 Ricardo Zúñiga ceaerr...@gmail.com:
 Estimados,

 Tengo un notebook HP 14-d007

 El problema es que las teclas f1, f2, f3 ... f12 funcionan al revés es
 decir para poder recargar una pagina en mi navegador debo presionar fn+f5.

 intenté con:
 dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

 Pero sigue igual no se por donde empezar

Eso suele ser una configuración a nivel de la BIOS.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uslc=endlc=endocname=c02035108


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Re: Agrandar patición raiz del sistema

2014-10-20 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2014-10-17 12:06 GMT-05:00 Ismael L. Donis Garcia sli...@citricos.co.cu:

 Una opción puede ser que intentes montar un directorio de /opt como
 /var/log:

   mount --bind /opt/log /var/log


 Con esta opción sería permanente el cambio?

Si la añades al fstab como indico más abajo.


 Me has dado otra idea: hachicar /opt y al final crear otra partición de 5 Gb
 y en ella montar /var/log

 Que opinan de esto?

 Como cambiaría de forma permanente a /var/log para que el sistema me lo
 reconozca de forma permanente en esa 4ta partición que crearía sin
 reinstalar el sistema?


 O en tu fstab:

   /opt/log /var/log none bind


Lo que --bind hace es asociar un directorio a otro a nivel de mount,
similar a un symlink pero sin que nadie se entere de esto.

Si le creas su propia partición, también tienes que colocarlo en fstab
para que sea permanente, pero no con las mismas opciones del bind. Las
opciones dependerán del sistema de archivos que escojas.


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Fork de Debian!

2014-10-20 Thread latincom

Hola

Yo se que poner enlaces en la lista, disminuye la capacidad de los
usuarios de buscar por si mismos, ademas de que ocultan el uso correcto de
las paginas man e info; y no comparto la idea de abandonar la comunidad
Debian anticipadamente; como aclaracion; Debian no es solamente una
distribucion GNU/Linux, es una Comunidad cuya prioridad son los usuarios
de Debian esto, segun mi opinion. Pero me parece que esto podria ser de
interes para algun usuario de esta lista. Gracias.

http://debianfork.org/

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Re: Problemas teclado [SOLUCIONADO]

Todos los días se aprende algo nuevo, yo le estaba echando la culpa a
Debian jaja
muchas gracias.

Saludos

El 20 de octubre de 2014, 19:59, Carlos Zuniga carlos@gmail.com
escribió:

 2014-10-20 15:18 GMT-05:00 Ricardo Zúñiga ceaerr...@gmail.com:
  Estimados,
 
  Tengo un notebook HP 14-d007
 
  El problema es que las teclas f1, f2, f3 ... f12 funcionan al revés
 es
  decir para poder recargar una pagina en mi navegador debo presionar
 fn+f5.
 
  intenté con:
  dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
 
  Pero sigue igual no se por donde empezar

 Eso suele ser una configuración a nivel de la BIOS.

 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uslc=endlc=endocname=c02035108


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Re: Forzado a detener mutt

2014-10-20 Thread Debia Linux

2014-10-17 12:27 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
El Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:52:57 -0500, Debia Linux escribió:

2014-10-16 14:27 GMT-05:00 Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com:
Debianeros:

Casi cometo una barbaridad, casi envio toda la base de datos del los
Centros Deportivos y Culturales a TODOS LOS USUARIOS...

Me vi forzado a detener mutt con Ctrlc+c y cerrar intempestivamente
xterm.

Ahora que deseo enviar mail desde la consola... tengo el siguiente
error.

# MENSAJE DESPUES DE CERRAR MUTT POR MEDIO DE LA FUERZA BRUTA #
No se pudo bloquear /home/$USER/sent con dotlock.
# MENSAJE DESPUES DE CERRAR MUTT POR MEDIO DE LA FUERZA BRUTA #

Problema corregido, solo elimine el archivo /home/$USER/sent.lock con
sudo.

sudo /home/$USER/sent.lock

Recuerda que también puedes activar el modo de depuración que es bastante
autoexplicativo.

Con mutt -d 2 te genera un archivo de registro en ~/.muttdebug0 y
aunque en este caso el mensaje de error que te sacaba ya te ponía en la
pista para resolverlo otras veces el error no es tan evidente y resulta
muy útil ver lo que hace Mutt internamente.

¡Muchas gracias Camaleon!.

Saludos,

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Harto de las limitaciones en CONTACTOS y CALENDARIO

2014-10-20 Thread Debia Linux

Debianeros:

Hace poco logre instalar en una tableta de marca conocida llamada
GALAXY S4... Les paso las imagenes tomadas. He logrado instalar
ciertas aplicaciones, pero se ven muy pequeñas.

Mi deseo es tener 100% Linux INSTALADO por mi en mi tableta. No deseo
tener ANDROID...

Mi deseo es limitarme en el uso de todo lo que tenga que ver con
GOOGLE que es LIMITANTE.

¿Algun comentario para instalar DEBIAN en mi tableta como si lo
hiciera en mi CPU?.

Lo demas es que deseo tener una agenda de CONTACTOS, no me importa que
sea en linea de comandos pero que sea 100% moldeable a mis necesidades
(estoy intentando un script en bash) y una agenda 100% moldeable a mis
necesidades tambien.

Me gustaria poder sincronizarla con mi computadora de escritorio
porque necesito tener todos mis contactos y agenda disponible y
moldeable (lo repito nuevamente).

Ya estoy harto de las limitantes de GOOGLECL y de todos los sistemas
que tienen que ver con CONTACTOS y EVENTOS.

No deseo tener cosas complejas, lo mas sencillo posible, como una base
de datos en archivo de texto que al sincronizarlo solo se copie y
listo. Tal vez vez crear archivos html que incluyan la imagen de algun
contacto etc.

Alguna idea?.

Gracias

Debianero

P.D. Kontact tampoco me es util ya que necesito que la aplicacion
tambien corra en mi tableta para tenerla 100% portatil.

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[OT] Curso Gratuito de Debian

2014-10-20 Thread Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez

Buen dia,

Compañeros como algunos ya sabran estoy creando unos videos para compartir mi 
conocimiento (Es una forma de retribucion a Debian por todo lo que me ha dado), 
es domingo pasado he terminado de realizar el curso medio de GNU/Linux usando 
Debian el cual esta subido a Youtube.

La lista de reproduccion cuenta con los siguientes capitulos:

Capitulo 1: Obtener Ayuda
Capitulo 2: Gestion de Procesos
Capitulo 3: Librerias Compartidas
Capitulo 4: Gestion de Unidades de Almacenamiento
Capitulo 5: Creacion y Gestion de Unidades RAID
Capitulo 6: LVM
Capitulo 7: Tareas Planificadas
Capitulo 8: Instalacion del Kernel
Capitulo 9: Rsyslog y Logrotate
Capitulo 10: Gestion del GRUB
Capitulo 11: Herramienta SUDO
Capitulo 12: OpenSSH

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7AHB-Tyvu6kHF9jyXDiXqaJ

Para los que no pudieron ver el curso anterior el cual era básico, aca los 
capitulos y la lista de reproduccion.

Capitulo 1: Introduccion Al curso
Capitulo 2: Por que GNU/Linux
Capitulo 3: Seleccion de la Distribucion e Instalacion
Capitulo 4: Iniciando el Trabajando
Capitulo 5: Archivos y Directorios (I) , Archivos y Directorios (II)
Capitulo 6: Usuarios y Grupos
Capitulo 7: Permisos
Capitulo 8: Configuracion de Red
Capitulo 9: Redireccionadores, Filtros y Tuberias
Capitulo 10: Herramientas 
Capitulo 11: Instalacion del Software
Capitulo 12: Interfaz Grafica
Capitulo 13: Servicios

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyLcPK3h0D7B6VltdexP0Og3HSj9y9t8d

Espero sea de su agrado, y agradezco las retroalimentaciones que me puedan 
brindar.

Re: Fork de Debian!

2014-10-20 Thread Manolo Díaz

El martes, 21 oct 2014 a las 02:08 horas (UTC+2),
latin...@vcn.bc.ca escribió:

Hola

Yo se que poner enlaces en la lista, disminuye la capacidad de los
usuarios de buscar por si mismos, ademas de que ocultan el uso correcto de
las paginas man e info;

¿Ya hay una página info o man sobre el fork? Qué rapidez.

y no comparto la idea de abandonar la comunidad
Debian anticipadamente; como aclaracion; Debian no es solamente una
distribucion GNU/Linux, es una Comunidad cuya prioridad son los usuarios
de Debian esto, segun mi opinion. Pero me parece que esto podria ser de
interes para algun usuario de esta lista. Gracias.

http://debianfork.org/

Nada que objetar a un fork, pero amenazar con hacerlo si no siguen sus
exigencias me suena a extorsión.

Por cierto, el tema es un OT de manual.

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Re: Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Jernberg

Will go to FSCons, with the Mozilla people so if i have some spare
time i will try talk to you Debian guys a bit too :)



On 10/19/14, Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br
 wrote:
 Hi,

 Unfortunately I can't do it.  I just forgot my wife's anniversary at the
 same weekend.  And she gave me a *friendly* remind to not miss that.

 Unfortunate. Bad planning to have FSCONS at the same time as your
 anniversary. ;-)

 Have fun!


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Re: Lösenord i Chrom(ium)

2014-10-20 Thread Anders Jackson

Den 18 okt 2014 22:01 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:

 Den 18 oktober 2014 21:47 skrev Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com:
  Det har varit känt i många år.
 
  Japp, och ett medvetet val. De vill inte ge illusion av säkerhet när de
inre
  kan erbjuda det.

 Det bero på hur du menar.

Det beror väl på hur de menade?
De lösenord såsom lagrades kan avkrypteras ändå.

  Jo, det är ju oxå ett sätt att lösa det på.
 
  Det är därför det finns accessrättigheter på filer och kataloger. För
att
  lösa problem som detta.

 Sannt, men det löser ju inte själva problemet.

OK, vad exakt är problemet?

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Re: Debian 7.7 ?

2014-10-20 Thread Rolf Edlund

7.7 -är- nu släppt. Upptäckte det det när jag ändrade länken på
hemsidan till att peka på 7.7 istället för 7.6. Då låg filerna där,
datumstämplade den 18/10. Men biblioteken är datumstämplade idag.

Sen ligger wiki.debian.org och lists.debian.org nere just nu. Vilket
dom kanske alltid gör när det släpps en ny version.

Ska nu ladda hem DVD iso-filerna och bränna ner dom på DVD skivor. :)

Den 19 oktober 2014 16:43 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:
 Igår skulle version 7.7 ha släppts ?

 Ja, jag vet att jag är strezzad.. :)

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Re: Debian 7.7 ?

2014-10-20 Thread Andreas Rönnquist

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:43:45 +0200,
Rolf Edlundrolfew...@gmail.com wrote:

Igår skulle version 7.7 ha släppts ?

Ja, jag vet att jag är strezzad.. :)


Den bör ha kommit då och du bör ha fått uppdateringarna om du
uppdaterade då - Dock så blev själva nyheten och dess e-postutskick
och dylikt försenad tills idag.

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Re: Debian 7.7 ?

2014-10-20 Thread Andreas Rönnquist

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:37:05 +0200,
Rolf Edlundrolfew...@gmail.com wrote:

7.7 -är- nu släppt. Upptäckte det det när jag ändrade länken på
hemsidan till att peka på 7.7 istället för 7.6. Då låg filerna där,
datumstämplade den 18/10. Men biblioteken är datumstämplade idag.

Sen ligger wiki.debian.org och lists.debian.org nere just nu. Vilket
dom kanske alltid gör när det släpps en ny version.

Ska nu ladda hem DVD iso-filerna och bränna ner dom på DVD skivor. :)

Den 19 oktober 2014 16:43 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:

--- 8 ---

För att förtydliga - jag skickade mitt andra svar till Rolf innan jag
såg detta (Det har även varit problem med servern som hanterar
sändlistorna, vilket jag antar är orsaken till att jag fick detta mail
fördröjt). Det är även orsaken till att nyhetsbulletinen har dröjt.

Även genereringen av cd- och dvd-avbildningar antar jag dröjde till idag
(eller igår), men dom som uppdaterar ett redan installerat system med
apt fick uppdateringen redan i lördags om jag inte tar fel.

mvh
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Re: Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-10-20 Thread Per Andersson

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Martin Jernberg
hackerbit...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Will go to FSCons, with the Mozilla people so if i have some spare
 time i will try talk to you Debian guys a bit too :)

You should definitely!


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Re: Debian 7.7 ?

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Jernberg

Perfekt tankar hem den nu, fått in lite Debian på jobbet också, våran
webdesign lärare ville ha en webserver och i specen stog det att den
skulle köra Linux, så jag och min nya kollega drog in Debian med
Apache, MySQL och PHP, och har konfat upp proftpd som är länkat med
skolans AD, som har en grupp med folk som är med i webdesign kursen
och har tillgång till våran server :)

On 10/20/14, Andreas Rönnquist mailingli...@gusnan.se wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:37:05 +0200,
Rolf Edlundrolfew...@gmail.com wrote:

7.7 -är- nu släppt. Upptäckte det det när jag ändrade länken på
hemsidan till att peka på 7.7 istället för 7.6. Då låg filerna där,
datumstämplade den 18/10. Men biblioteken är datumstämplade idag.

Sen ligger wiki.debian.org och lists.debian.org nere just nu. Vilket
dom kanske alltid gör när det släpps en ny version.

Ska nu ladda hem DVD iso-filerna och bränna ner dom på DVD skivor. :)

Den 19 oktober 2014 16:43 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:

--- 8 ---

För att förtydliga - jag skickade mitt andra svar till Rolf innan jag
såg detta (Det har även varit problem med servern som hanterar
sändlistorna, vilket jag antar är orsaken till att jag fick detta mail
fördröjt). Det är även orsaken till att nyhetsbulletinen har dröjt.

Även genereringen av cd- och dvd-avbildningar antar jag dröjde till idag
(eller igår), men dom som uppdaterar ett redan installerat system med
apt fick uppdateringen redan i lördags om jag inte tar fel.

mvh
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Re: como atualizar kernel?

2014-10-20 Thread Gunther Furtado

Bom dia!

Em 19 de outubro de 2014 11:28, Andre N Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 07:54:16AM -0200, Gunther Furtado wrote:
  Amigos,
 
  Consegui driblar o grubenv e o boot está ocorrendo como eu gostaria,
  preciso ver se a próxima atualização de kernel não bagunça os links.
 
  O único senão é que alguns as alguns programas (/bin/su)
  tem permissões especiais:
 
  $ ls -l /bin/su
  -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 40168 Out 15 06:21 /bin/su
 
  e ao fazer:
 
  # cp /dev/sda1/* /dev/sda10/*
 
  isto se perdeu. É possível que venham outros problemas do mesmo tipo,
  mas espero que as atualizações aos poucos eliminem as discrepâncias.
 
  Abrax.

 Hmmm... se eu fosse você pelo menos checaria as permissões em $PATH,
 /root /etc e /var.

 Mas como você conseguiu copiar um /dev não montado?



Ops! Na verdade, eu estava escrevendo de memória... o comando exato foi
rodado a partir de um CD de ubuntu, com o famoso ($ sudo su -) e foi mais
ou menos este:

# cp /media/uudisk-label-do-sda1/*/media/uudisk-label-do-sda10/*

Abrax.


 
  Em 16.10.2014, quinta, Gunther Furtado disse:
 
   André e demais membros,
  
   Executei as mudanças da seguinte maneira: diminuí em 1 GB a partição
   /home, e, neste espaço, criei uma partição nova para /, copiei o
   conteúdo do / antigo e apaguei o conteúdo deste último.
  
   Não consegui reinstalar o grub usando o cd de instalação em /dev/sda:
   Recebi um Erro Fatal sem maiores explicações.
  
   Consegui bootar usando os comando do grub.
  
set prefix=(hd0,10)/boot/grub
set root=hd0,10
insmod normal
normal
  
   e atualizei o kernel.
  
   Pergunta 1: como mudar o env do grub de maneira permanente? (
   save_env prefix, não é um comando reconhecido)
  
   Pergunta 2: devo tentar reinstalar o grub em /dev/sda10 ou
   montar /dev/sda1 (antigo root) como o novo /boot para tentar usar o
   env do grub antigo?
  
   Amplex!
  
  
   --
  
   ¿De dónde viene tu mentir,
   y adónde empieza tu verdad?
   ¡Parece broma tu mirar,
   llanto parece tu reír! Violeta Parra
  
  
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   Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil
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   sip:furta...@ekiga.net
  
  
  
   Em 14 de outubro de 2014 09:58, Gunther Furtado gunfurt...@gmail.com
   escreveu:
  
Obrigado, André.
   
Vou executar à noite e posto o resultado.
   
Abraço,
   
--
   
¿De dónde viene tu mentir,
y adónde empieza tu verdad?
¡Parece broma tu mirar,
llanto parece tu reír! Violeta Parra
   
   
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Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil
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sip:furta...@ekiga.net
   
   
   
Em 13 de outubro de 2014 14:40, Andre N Batista
andrenbati...@gmail.com escreveu:
   
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:02:54PM -0300, Gunther Furtado wrote:
 Prezad@s,

 Toda vez que tento atualizar o pacote linux-image-686-pae da
 testing ele tenta instalar o linux-image-3.16-2-686-pae e surge
 um erro:

 dpkg: error processing archive

 /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16-2-686-pae_3.16.3-2_i386.deb
 (--unpack):
  cannot copy extracted data for
 './lib/modules/3.16-2-686-pae/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.ko' to

 '/lib/modules/3.16-2-686-pae/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid.ko.dpkg-new':
 unexpected end of file or stream
 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken
 pipe)

 sempre nos drivers scsi, mas nem sempre no megaraid

 Acho que, apesar do erro ser 'unexpected end of file or stream',
 isto
está
 relacionado à falta de espaço em /.

 root@kidos:~# df -h
 Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda1   315M  223M   71M  76% /
 udev 10M 0   10M   0% /dev
 tmpfs   200M  5,2M  195M   3% /run
 tmpfs   500M   92K  500M   1% /dev/shm
 tmpfs   5,0M  4,0K  5,0M   1% /run/lock
 tmpfs   500M 0  500M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
 /dev/sda978G  713M   74G   1% /home
 /dev/sda6   2,7G  585M  2,0G  23% /var
 /dev/sda5   8,2G  3,0G  4,8G  38% /usr
 tmpfs   100M  4,0K  100M   1% /run/user/109
 /dev/sda8   360M  2,8M  335M   1% /tmp
 tmpfs   100M  8,0K  100M   1% /run/user/1000
 root@kidos:~#

 Os modulos da versão instalada do kernel ocupam 111,0 MB.
 Imaginando
que o
 memo espaço deva ser ocupado pelos módulos novos, é preciso
 liberar uns 60MB em / para conseguir atualizar o kernel.
 localepurge instalado e operando, /var e /tmp em partições
 separadas.

 O diretório  /lib etá ocupando 175,3 MB, ou seja, mais de metade
 de /, /bin+/bin/etc=26MB, então, se eu quiser liberar 50 MB,
 tenho que apagar alguma coisa em /lib?
   
Você poderia apagar se soubesse o que está apagando. Apagar no
escuro, só se vc tiver um backup. Por outro lado, em vez de
apagar, vc pode temporariamente mudar estes arquivos para outra

Re: Bind9

2014-10-20 Thread Gustavo S. de Lima


Em 2014-10-19 18:56, Paulo escreveu:

Pessoal,

Sempre me perco na instalação do BIND.


Sim, configurar DNS perto de DHCP, Samba, etc, é mais complexo.


Consegui configurar o encaminhamento
Mas não consigo configurar uma zona


Você pode usar o comando named-checkzone para conferir se as zonas 
estão configuradas corretamente.


Mesmo seguindo vários tutoriais a zona não pinga e não consigo dar 
host para ela


Poderia colar o arquivo named.conf.local e named.conf.options para 
analisarmos a configuração?




É uma máquina de testes, coloquei o nome de teste.dom.local no
/etc/hosts e no /etc/hostname


Se possível, colar a saída destes também.


Teria que ser um nome válido na Internet ?
Não tenho IP válido, estou usando uma conexão tipo Home


Não, o DNS atua para a sua rede local.


Se alguém tiver alguma dica, agradeço

Desde já agradeço.


Disponha



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Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-20 Thread lee

Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org writes:

 On 10/17/2014 9:24 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
 You do not accept messages you can not deliver unless you are relaying
 them.

 Absolutely wrong, this rule fully applies to relays just as it does
 final destination servers.

I'm not sure what you mean.  How will you know whether messages to a
particular destination address can be delivered before sending a message
to that address so that you can decide whether to accept a message
you're relaying to that address?


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Re: [exim4] Testing and making sense of smtp output

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:37:13 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:


 
 primary_hostname is used as the HELO but Debian doesn't set it. Also,
 the exim maintainers aren't very keen on your using it in a
 configuration file.
 
 

Many mail servers have a public IP address, and it makes sense to use
the machine's own hostname in the HELO. If the mail server is behind
NAT, it is not reachable by name, and doesn't even have an inherent
FQDN, so there is no point in using its real hostname. Indeed, unless
a public A record is created to match such a HELO, many mail servers
will refuse mail from the machine.

A made-up hostname which resolves to the public-IP side of the NAT is
then appropriate for the HELO, and will clearly not be found anywhere
in the mail server's system files. Also, if a server handles multiple
domains, it may be felt appropriate to use a separate HELO for each
domain.

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Re: Stuck in update

2014-10-20 Thread Darac Marjal

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:21:58PM -0400, Alan Greenberger wrote:
 This morning I tried to update a wheezy recently upgraded from squeeze.
 It didn't work and I am stuck.
 
 # aptitude update
 # aptitude
  g
  u

You update aptitude twice?

  These packages could be upgraded, but they have been kept in their
  current state to avoid breaking dependencies.

Which packages?

  q
  b (just beeps)

'b' searches for packages which are broken, but you've just been told
that packages were held specifically to stop that happening.

 
 There were some error messages about lilo

What were the error messages?

 # dpkg -l lilo
  iF  lilo   1:23.2-4 amd64
 # aptitude
  /lilo
  C lilo 1:23.2-4   1:23.2-4 
 
 # dpkg-reconfigure lilo
  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lilo is broken or not fully installed

OK. But why is lilo broken?

 
 # aptitude install debsums
debsums libfile-fnmatch-perl{a} 
 The following partially installed packages will be configured:
   lilo
  ...
  Errors were encountered while processing:
  lilo
 
 # debsums lilo
  debsums: package lilo is not installed

debsums didn't install because lilo failed to configure. 

 
 # aptitude reinstall lilo
 The following packages will be REINSTALLED:
   lilo 
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 50
  not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 E: Internal Error, No file name for lilo:amd64

OK. Finally, we get to an actual error message. Apt is trying to find a
package for lilo:amd64, but can't for some reason.

Please let us know the output of:

 $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}
 $ apt-cache policy lilo
 $ dpkg --audit

Thanks.



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Re: Good news on claws-mail




Le 18.10.2014 22:44, John Hasler a écrit :

Steve Litt writes:

The process, the questions it asked, and the automatic collection of
my computer's configuration made submitting the bug trivial. *Every*
project should have one of these.


Unfortunately as soon as you mention email their ears close up.


The point is that, Debian is a big project, with lot of people working 
on it, not always programmers (I suppose). At least, I guess it have to 
be like this.
But, if, for example, I take i3, there are far less people working on 
it, essentially programmers. They do not necessarily have time to do the 
triaging of bugs, and so they ask the users to post on a bug tracker. I 
understand that it's painful for a user to register here and there, but 
I also understand that programmers do not necessarily have time to 
triage mailed bug reports into a correct DB, with lot of emails just 
saying hey, it does not work!. The web interfaces (like redmine) 
usually force the users to fill some informations about the problem.
I'm a programmer, so I can assure you that that kind of... hum... bug 
reports, happen frequently, forcing programmers to buy a tarot and to 
learn to use it.
So, I can see how the Debian's idea of reportbug is great, especially 
if bugs are reported upstream by maintainers with the infos needed by 
programmers to focus on actually fixing the bug. That's an important 
job, but it's not really something people will usually notice.



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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread Darac Marjal

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:36:23PM +0200, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I wonder if one can avoid a complete reboot of the system just by
 halting the operating system but right after load the initramfs and
 restart from there?

I don't think you can quite do what you're thinking, but there are other
ways around it.

 
 Basically when we reboot, we only want to reset the operating system
 state but rarely to do all the hardware checks again. And for a kernel
 update, there is kexec.

If you've got as far as halting  the system, then kexec or a full reboot
are your only options. This is due to the fact that you've unmounted all
the block  devices, probably  powered them  off and so  on. I  guess you
could try  jumping back into an  initramfs (that you loaded  into memory
before shutdown), but you might as  well reset the kernel at that point.
It'll only take a few seconds more.

The other alternative,  for a lighter reboot is to  drop to runlevel 1
(or single-user.target, in  systemd's parlance). This will  stop all the
mutli-user services (X, httpd, sshd and so  on) and bring you to a point
where only  a minimal number of  services are running (file  systems are
mounted,  the  local  console  is  active and  so  on).  You  could  use
checkrestart (from the debian-goodies package) to check what remaining
services are using outdated libraries and restart them manually. At this
point, you can come back up to runlevel 2-5 (systemd: multi-user.target)
in order to bring the system back up to full capacity.

I think  it depends  on what  you're trying to  achieve and  what you're
trying to avoid.


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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread Rusi Mody

On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:50:02 PM UTC+5:30, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
 Slavko wrote:
  Ahoj,
  napísal:
  On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 07:02:12PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Friday 17 October 2014 18:30:31 Andre N Batista wrote:
  I cannot believe some people still
  thinks [snip] that we should simply stick with
  the TC's authority regardless what.
  Surely no-one has ever said that??  References if someone has?
  Sven Joachim.
  Because the people who do the work get to make the decisions,
  that's the way Debian works.
  All testing's users which are doing testing of the software and are
  reporting the bugs are working on, despite if they are in some team or
  not. But now it seems, that the regular users are on the last position
  of the interest and particular part of the Social contract are only
  words.
  This is the reason why i suspend all my contributions for now. I know,
  that the Debian was here without me and will be here without me too, but
  i see no enough interest to contribute now. First i was in doubts: is
  this only my wounded ego? But by last months doings i lost any doubts.

 ..the small man stands defiantly in front of the moving tank waving his 
 flag of freedom..I don't blame you for moving out of the way, maybe some 
 pieces will be left and you will still be here to help put them pieces 
 back together again, or something new and better will come along, have 
 faith my friend.

It seems that 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/
is down right now.

This case seems to be generating enough interest for it to register as
a DOS (attack) on the servers!?! Heh!


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Re: Good news on claws-mail




Le 19.10.2014 17:03, Steve Litt a écrit :

Rapid Application Development, Army Surplus
style, which of course makes me a pariah in the eyes of real
programmers. Life's tough.


Real programmers don't need RAD, they only use butterflies (1).

About RAD and interpreted languages, I do not really share what seems 
to be the common philosophy nowadays. My personnal opinion is that a 
good enough software will never kill a computer's resources alone, if 
the computer is correctly sized for the need, C, ASM, python or whatever 
might be the language. But my opinion is that, it's the accumulation of 
tools using different slow languages, which will kill the computer's 
resources (shell, python2, python3, php, perl, basic, whatever).
I do not really mind and won't insult someone because he prefer a 
different techno, though. Except maybe if I notice that his software is 
contamining the other softwares I use.
Plus, the shame with most of those languages is that, you can't be sure 
that it'll still work correctly on modern computers in 5 years: the 
languages might have changed in non-compatible ways (python?).
That's why, I do not share your opinion on that point. But, I do not 
consider myself a good programmer, so don't worry I know I may be wrong 
--and am on a lot of points-- :)


1: https://xkcd.com/378/


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Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-20 Thread Peter Buzanits

Am 2014-10-19 um 13:47 schrieb lee:

 I have a problem on 2 Wheezy installations in Vmware, if I want to set
 quota for a user:

 bastelecke:~# quotatool -u tutor -bq 2000M -l 2500M /
 quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such file or
 directory
 
 Which version of VMWare and Debian kernel are you using?
 

VMware ESX 4.0.0 Build 236512

3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux


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Re: download files from iceweasel using kdialog

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 11:29:11PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 20/10/14 00:16, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
  
  
  On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Scott Ferguson
  scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
  mailto:scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  On 19/10/14 23:32, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
   When I download a file via chromium, it uses kdialog to figure out 
  where
   the file is supposed to be stored on the disk. I find this GUI to be
   very intuitive compared to what iceweasel uses for choosing the file
   location.
  
   Is there any way to tell iceweasel to use kdialog to choose the file
   location when I try to download something?
  
  x/y problem? :)
  
  
  I am not sure what you mean by this. I tried searching wikipedia for
  x/y problem but did not find anything there.
 
 Wikipedia isn't perfect. It's a somewhat obscure term.

There is this:
http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341

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Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

On Sb, 18 oct 14, 11:29:32, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 
   I still noticed a curious fact
   Impossible to find what package provides /etc/samba/smb.conf
   apt-file search smb.conf only gives /usr/share/samba/smb.conf,
   from samba-common.
   /usr/share/samba/smb.conf and /etc/samba/dmb.conf are strictly identical
   Nevertheless, if I remove /etc/samba/smb.conf, the reinstall of samba
   or samba-common fails

I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf 
in some postinst script (probably of samba-common).

It's been a while since trying out samba, but I seem to recall editing 
smb.conf was a must, so marking it as dpkg-conffile would now work so 
well ;)

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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems




Le 18.10.2014 07:06, Steve Litt a écrit :

If they vote no on the GR, then I think
that unless Red Hat succeeds in systemdizing X itself, we'll (meaning
those of us who care) will replace systemd-contaminated software with
init-agnostic software. And for sure, boycott all systemd-dependent
software to the best of our ability.


Did they successed with wayland? I just took a look at weston and it 
seems to be linked to stuffD... and with Dbus, when I thought I had read 
time ago things about them using a home-made bus, because they thought 
dbus was too heavy... I hope I'm wrong?



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Re: Good news on claws-mail




Le 19.10.2014 16:15, Steve Litt a écrit :

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:47:03 +0200
Peter Nieman gmane-a...@t-online.de wrote:


By the way, I am a desktop user, using fvwm. But I don't want all my
applications to look and feel the same, I don't want everything to
interact with everything, and I want to control my computer instead
of being controlled by my computer.


Quoted For Truth!!!


It's not that true... I wonder what you'll say if, for example, all 
those pixel-shiny applications like aptitude, ncmpc, vim, emacs, or 
mutt, had sometimes white background, sometimes black, or red...


But, what is obvious is, that we do not need any dbus to achieve that 
goal. Only a video server (I consider x-terminal-emulators being like 
Xorg: they eventually read input, pass it to program, and pass the 
program's output to user, like Xorg).


And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by myself 
around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, and several 
applications, but it's still a DE. A light one, an efficient one, a 
personal one, but it's my DE. :D



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Re: unattended-upgrades

On Du, 19 oct 14, 14:46:07, Chris wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm having no luck getting unattended-upgrads working on a Wheezy server. 
...
 2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 INFO No packages found that can be upgraded unattended

Seems like there's nothing to upgrade.

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Re: terminology: how do you change the foreground colour?

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:49:17PM +0200, lee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the subject already says it:  How do you change the foreground colour in
 terminology?  I can only set the background.

What? ... Where? ummm ...

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:35:15 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sb, 18 oct 14, 11:29:32, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
  
I still noticed a curious fact
Impossible to find what package provides /etc/samba/smb.conf
apt-file search smb.conf only gives /usr/share/samba/smb.conf,
from samba-common.
/usr/share/samba/smb.conf and /etc/samba/dmb.conf are strictly
  identical Nevertheless, if I remove /etc/samba/smb.conf, the
  reinstall of samba or samba-common fails
 
 I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied
 to /etc/samba/smb.conf in some postinst script (probably of
 samba-common).
 
 It's been a while since trying out samba, but I seem to recall
 editing smb.conf was a must, so marking it as dpkg-conffile would now
 work so well ;)
 

Bear in mind that the full samba system is only required for a server
i.e. a machine offering shares, only the client parts are needed to
access shares elsewhere, and they do not generally need central
configuration. Shares mounted by cifs through /etc/fstab will have
access configuration built in there. Linux smb access software mostly
doesn't worry about Windows workgroup names.

Yes, there were samba issues just after my switch to systemd on my old
installation. I'm curious as to why someone thought that five *minutes*
was an appropriate timeout for trying to close smb shares. As far as I
can see, on a local network, if it hasn't happened in about ten seconds
plus any actual cache writing time, it's never going to happen. I've
also seen a lot of failures to close cifs shares before removing
networking in sid over the years (who knew that you shouldn't shut down
networking until *after* the sessions are closed?), though the normal
timeout then is a mere two minutes.

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Re: Moderated posts?

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:17:28 +0200
lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:

 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org writes:
 
  On 10/17/2014 9:24 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:
  You do not accept messages you can not deliver unless you are
  relaying them.
 
  Absolutely wrong, this rule fully applies to relays just as it does
  final destination servers.
 
 I'm not sure what you mean.  How will you know whether messages to a
 particular destination address can be delivered before sending a
 message to that address so that you can decide whether to accept a
 message you're relaying to that address?
 
 

I think it's generally an admonishment not to get involved in relaying.
The point of relaying is that the original sender cannot directly reach
the recipient's authoritative mail server, in which case it can't
generally query for recipient validity.

If a relaying server does not hold a list of valid recipients for the
authoritative server, and that's usually difficult to maintain, then it
runs the risk of having to pass an NDR back up the relay line, and if
the original message was spam, then we have NDR spam.

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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:13:38 +0100
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:36:23PM +0200, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I wonder if one can avoid a complete reboot of the system just by
  halting the operating system but right after load the initramfs and
  restart from there?
 
 I don't think you can quite do what you're thinking, but there are
 other ways around it.
 
  
  Basically when we reboot, we only want to reset the operating system
  state but rarely to do all the hardware checks again. And for a
  kernel update, there is kexec.
 
 If you've got as far as halting  the system, then kexec or a full
 reboot are your only options. This is due to the fact that you've
 unmounted all the block  devices, probably  powered them  off and so
 on. I  guess you could try  jumping back into an  initramfs (that you
 loaded  into memory before shutdown), but you might as  well reset
 the kernel at that point. It'll only take a few seconds more.
 
 The other alternative,  for a lighter reboot is to  drop to
 runlevel 1 (or single-user.target, in  systemd's parlance). This
 will  stop all the mutli-user services (X, httpd, sshd and so  on)
 and bring you to a point where only  a minimal number of  services
 are running (file  systems are mounted,  the  local  console  is
 active and  so  on).  You  could  use checkrestart (from the
 debian-goodies package) to check what remaining services are using
 outdated libraries and restart them manually. At this point, you can
 come back up to runlevel 2-5 (systemd: multi-user.target) in order to
 bring the system back up to full capacity.
 
 I think  it depends  on what  you're trying to  achieve and  what
 you're trying to avoid.

Windows 8 achieves fast shutdown and boot times by what is basically a
partial hibernation, but of the system only. Since the shutdown is
fast, I assume the dynamic initrd is prepared much earlier, and kept
updated from time to time.

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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread Reco

 Hi.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:13:38AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
 The other alternative,  for a lighter reboot is to  drop to runlevel 1
 (or single-user.target, in  systemd's parlance). This will  stop all the
 mutli-user services (X, httpd, sshd and so  on) and bring you to a point
 where only  a minimal number of  services are running (file  systems are
 mounted,  the  local  console  is  active and  so  on).  You  could  use
 checkrestart (from the debian-goodies package) to check what remaining
 services are using outdated libraries and restart them manually. At this
 point, you can come back up to runlevel 2-5 (systemd: multi-user.target)
 in order to bring the system back up to full capacity.

I don't know about systemd, but for Debian's sysvinit returning from the
single-user is not that good idea - [1]. I'm unsure whenever it's
supported now, but I've seen myself init 1 → init 2 sequence deadlocking
on rpcbind.

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=142424

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

On Du, 19 oct 14, 15:35:47, Peter Nieman wrote:
 Anyway, evince *recommends* dbus-X11, but after removing dbus it no 
 longer worked.

Could you please elaborate on it no longer worked? Do you get any 
errors if you start it from a terminal?

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Re: terminology: how do you change the foreground colour?

2014-10-20 Thread Darac Marjal

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 01:49:17PM +0200, lee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the subject already says it:  How do you change the foreground colour in
 terminology?  I can only set the background.

$ tput setaf 2  echo This text is green.

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Re: download files from iceweasel using kdialog

On 20/10/14 04:30, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Scott Ferguson
 scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
 mailto:scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Apologies - I forgot to include this this:-
 
 Previously I have had the *alternative* file picker thingy (I assume
 that's what you meant by kdialog) working instead of the default
 iceweasel one - but the experience was flaky and breaks on upgrades.
 
 
 Yes. That is what I am after.

Do note - it's *not* a KDE file browser, for reason explained previously.

It 'might' be possible to hack such a thing with a little bash, some
modification of the appropriate mozilla js, and kdialog (the scripted
gui tool) - and understand that approach may be difficult to maintain
across upgrade.
I'm sorry but it's not something I can provide instructions for, or have
time to try myself. Your best bet might be to either find a
plugin/extension that allows that (I don't know any compatible with
recent Iceweasel) - or write your own.
From unreliable memory you're looking for filepicker
(nsIFilePicker??). A cursory search show that function being called in
Firebug.

  
 
 NOTE: it *still* uses GTK not QT. Use an Iceweasel theme and KDE QT
 configurator to make it look like QT.
 
 about:config - filter for ui.allow_platform_file_picker
 set the boolean value to false (double-click on it)
 
 I tried this. The resulting file dialog is somewhat different but not
 same as kdialog. 

Yes. Noted previously. GTK != Qt
Until I see a working example of KDE being used for file selection in
Iceweasel this appears to remain and x/y problem (you want the same
features on your Toyota as are in a Ferrari - simulation 'may' be the
closest you can get).

 For example, in the kdialog window opened from
 chromium, if I click on the drop down where the directory name is
 displayed, it shows a list of directories into which files were stored
 recently. This feature is very useful.

File a wishlist bugreport upstream??

 
 However, after setting the ui.platform_file_picket to false, the
 directories listed under Look in: are just directories under the same
 tree. For example, they are as below
 /home/username/dir1/dir2/dir3
 /home/username/dir1/dir2/
 /home/username/dir1/
 /home/username/
  /home
 /
 This is rarely useful for me and involves multiple clicks before I get
 to the correct destination directory.
 

Understood. And expected. I haven't explored the abilities to define how
the GTK file browser sets the default locations offered - or how to
redefine it's interface. Either wait for someone else to respond to this
thread, or do a little research on your own.

You don't say what DE libraries you use. If you have KDE you might be
able to find an alternative way (x/y again) of achieving the same
outcome (I have little knowledge of GNOME).
Is there a logic to the choice of directories you wish to download to?
e.g. Could an auto-filter be employed to save files to particular
locations based on file type?


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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread Jimmy Thrasibule

DM I think  it depends  on what  you're trying to  achieve and  what you're
DM trying to avoid.

Well my first idea was to have a kind of management OS that I can load
in memory to do some stuff like disk partitioning, fsck, etc...

For example one idea I have in mind is BTRFS snapshots. I can take a
snapshot of my root, and when something goes wrong, I run the
management image to revert the root FS. So I'm looking for a way to
stop the system, run the management image and restart from there. This
way, I can avoid all the hardware and memory checks while booting.

Note that kexec is already doing that [1]. My question was more on how
to cleanly stop and run my memory image.


[1] https://wiki.debian.org/BootProcessSpeedup#Using_kexec_for_warm_reboots


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Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

2014-10-20 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf
in some postinst script (probably of samba-common).


  Yes, but if it does that, why is it complaining that /etc/samba/smf.conf
  is missing?

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Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

On Lu, 20 oct 14, 14:19:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 
 I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf
 in some postinst script (probably of samba-common).
 
   Yes, but if it does that, why is it complaining that /etc/samba/smf.conf
   is missing?

At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at 
installation time. What you did in the meantime...

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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:
 On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:
 As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
 falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
 off your seafront house?
 
 If you are taking offense, who are you offended by? Debian is not a
 person (as far as I know!)
 
 Debian is a project created by a group of people.
 
 It is not a force of nature.
 
 

And user/tester rights?
Problematic to a degree all consumers are users and can/do provide
feedback. I'm not unsympathetic, just unsure of where the
responsibility lies, particularly with FOSS - and wary of unrealistic
expectations.
Since analogies are being deployed:- If I find a piece of machinery
unsatisfactory I will let the manufacturer know - but getting a say in
the direction of the company, even when overlooking the problems of
satisfying a diversity of opinion, is not possible without at least the
purchase of a share or a position in the company. I could organise a
protest in the car park - but if my demands are unreasonable I may
succeed in changing the company direction at the cost of driving the
business - out of business.

Just some thoughts on the difficulties that would have to be dealt with
to achieve a successful outcome - for all involved.


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Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 10/20/2014 7:18 AM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote:
 I think it's generally an admonishment not to get involved in relaying.

No, it is generally an admonishment not to get involved with relaying if
you do not have *access* to validate recipients.

There are multiple ways this can be achieved.

Easiest is what postfix calls 'recipient verification'.

Or you could script a way to get a locally held list.

 The point of relaying is that the original sender cannot directly reach
 the recipient's authoritative mail server, in which case it can't
 generally query for recipient validity.

This is only generally true for *outbound* mail.

I'm talking mainly about acting as an *inbound* relay, meaning, an
inbound MX for any given domain(s).

 If a relaying server does not hold a list of valid recipients for the
 authoritative server, and that's usually difficult to maintain,

Maybe, but again, you can always just use recipient verification (with
permission - this is the postfix term, or use the equiv for whatever
SMTP server you are using).

If whoever you are acting as MX for won't let you perform recipient
verification, then you shouldn't be acting as their MX. Period.


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Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 10/20/2014 6:58 AM, Peter Buzanits buzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 VMware ESX 4.0.0 Build 236512

That is really old...


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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread Jimmy Thrasibule

SW See Qubes
SW
SW Its what Amazon uses for AWS. Its based on Fedora but idk of a Debian based
SW distro with a similar focus

My use case is more for a server environment so this is not what I'm
looking for here. I really mean managing the machine from a memory
image without a livecd or anything else.

But this may fit for another idea of mine [1].


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01607.html


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Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-20 Thread Peter Buzanits

Am 2014-10-20 um 15:17 schrieb Tanstaafl:
 On 10/20/2014 6:58 AM, Peter Buzanits buzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 VMware ESX 4.0.0 Build 236512
 
 That is really old...

You think that the hypervisor could cause problems in the kernel? Are
there any known issues with old VMware and new Linux kernels?



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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread shawn wilson

On Oct 20, 2014 8:13 AM, Jimmy Thrasibule jimmy.thrasib...@gmail.com
wrote:

 DM I think  it depends  on what  you're trying to  achieve and  what
you're
 DM trying to avoid.

 Well my first idea was to have a kind of management OS that I can load
 in memory to do some stuff like disk partitioning, fsck, etc...


See Qubes

Its what Amazon uses for AWS. Its based on Fedora but idk of a Debian based
distro with a similar focus

Re: Stuck in update

2014-10-20 Thread Alan Greenberger

Thank you for responding.

On 2014-10-20, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

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 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:21:58PM -0400, Alan Greenberger wrote:
 This morning I tried to update a wheezy recently upgraded from squeeze.
 It didn't work and I am stuck.
=20
 # aptitude update
 # aptitude
  g
  u

 You update aptitude twice?
This was a typo, a meant U not u.

  These packages could be upgraded, but they have been kept in their
  current state to avoid breaking dependencies.

 Which packages?
Lots that have changed in the last few weeks.

  q
  b (just beeps)

 'b' searches for packages which are broken, but you've just been told
 that packages were held specifically to stop that happening.

=20
 There were some error messages about lilo

 What were the error messages?
Something went by, can't recall.

 # dpkg -l lilo
  iF  lilo   1:23.2-4 amd64
 # aptitude
  /lilo
  C lilo 1:23.2-4   1:23.2=
 -4=20
=20
 # dpkg-reconfigure lilo
  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: lilo is broken or not fully installed

 OK. But why is lilo broken?

=20
 # aptitude install debsums
debsums libfile-fnmatch-perl{a}=20
 The following partially installed packages will be configured:
   lilo
  ...
  Errors were encountered while processing:
  lilo
=20
 # debsums lilo
  debsums: package lilo is not installed

 debsums didn't install because lilo failed to configure.=20
desums DID install.  Line above shows it running complaining lilo is
not installed

=20
 # aptitude reinstall lilo
 The following packages will be REINSTALLED:
   lilo=20
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 50
  not upgraded.
 Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
 E: Internal Error, No file name for lilo:amd64

 OK. Finally, we get to an actual error message. Apt is trying to find a
 package for lilo:amd64, but can't for some reason.

 Please let us know the output of:

  $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list}
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free

 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main contrib non-free

 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
  $ apt-cache policy lilo
 lilo:
   Installed: 1:23.2-4
   Candidate: 1:23.2-4
   Version table:
  *** 1:23.2-4 0
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  $ dpkg --audit
 The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems
 configuring them the first time.  The configuration should be retried using
 dpkg --configure package or the configure menu option in dselect:
  lilo LInux LOader - the classic OS boot loader

 The following packages are missing the md5sums control file in the
 database, they need to be reinstalled:
 ...


OK, I tried the whole thing again this morning and lo and behold, this
time aptitude was able to do the update and complete!  Though for
unknown reason, it decided to uninstall acroread.  (Maybe this all has
to do with 32 bit programs?  I have dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
is i386.)

But the reported problem with lilo remains.  Can't reconfigure, can't
reinstall.  I am hesitant to uninstall lilo.



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Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

2014-10-20 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at
installation time. What you did in the meantime...


  I did:  apt-get --reinstall install samba-common

  So, it seems that with --reinstall, the postinst script is not
  executed, which is not what I would expect.
  I saw:

   You can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall
   packagename. This completely removes the package (but not its
   dependencies), and then re-install the package.


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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Steve Litt

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 03:37:56 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:


 And, finally, I consider myself as a DE user. My DE is built by
 myself around a terminal-emulator, a tiling window manager, 

Which one?

I use Openbox, which of course isn't tiling.

 and
 several applications, 

Such as?

My main apps are:

* Sigil
* Bluefish
* Iceweasel (I use xxxterm on Ubuntu)
* Vim
* VimOutliner
* LyX
* Gnumeric
* LibreOffice Impress
* The various programming languages
* UMENU
* dmenu

 but it's still a DE. A light one, an efficient
 one, a personal one, but it's my DE. :D

An afficienado would argue with you that it's a DE only if the apps can
all interact. Me, I'd prefer all my apps mind their own business, but
hey, that's just me.

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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread Miles Fidelman


Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 20/10/14 04:03, Martin Read wrote:

On 19/10/14 17:45, Rusi Mody wrote:

As for 'wounded ego': Do you have a wounded ego if a dead branch
falls and smashes the windshield of your car? Or a Tsunami knocks
off your seafront house?

If you are taking offense, who are you offended by? Debian is not a
person (as far as I know!)

Debian is a project created by a group of people.

It is not a force of nature.



And user/tester rights?
Problematic to a degree all consumers are users and can/do provide
feedback. I'm not unsympathetic, just unsure of where the
responsibility lies, particularly with FOSS - and wary of unrealistic
expectations.
Since analogies are being deployed:- If I find a piece of machinery
unsatisfactory I will let the manufacturer know - but getting a say in
the direction of the company, even when overlooking the problems of
satisfying a diversity of opinion, is not possible without at least the
purchase of a share or a position in the company. I could organise a
protest in the car park - but if my demands are unreasonable I may
succeed in changing the company direction at the cost of driving the
business - out of business.

Just some thoughts on the difficulties that would have to be dealt with
to achieve a successful outcome - for all involved.




Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user 
communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to 
meet.  So, for example, when one buys an ethernet card - vendors really 
do not really have a choice as to whether or not to implement the standards.


With Linux distros, including the kernel and implementing the LSB are 
pretty much things everyone has to meet (with a few notable exceptions 
like GNU/kFreeBSD - though arguably that's not Linux).


Miles Fidelman

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Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-20 Thread Miles Fidelman


Joe wrote:

On Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:17:28 +0200
lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:


Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org writes:


On 10/17/2014 9:24 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote:

You do not accept messages you can not deliver unless you are
relaying them.

Absolutely wrong, this rule fully applies to relays just as it does
final destination servers.

I'm not sure what you mean.  How will you know whether messages to a
particular destination address can be delivered before sending a
message to that address so that you can decide whether to accept a
message you're relaying to that address?



I think it's generally an admonishment not to get involved in relaying.
The point of relaying is that the original sender cannot directly reach
the recipient's authoritative mail server, in which case it can't
generally query for recipient validity.


Relaying happens all the time - e.g., when an organization designates a 
single mail gateway, that then distributes to department-level mail systems.


And, in the corporate world, NDRs from down-stream servers are commonplace.

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Re: unattended-upgrades

2014-10-20 Thread Chris

On Monday 20 October 2014 12:39:45 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Du, 19 oct 14, 14:46:07, Chris wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I'm having no luck getting unattended-upgrads working on a Wheezy server.
 
 ...
 
  2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 INFO No packages found that can be upgraded
  unattended
 
 Seems like there's nothing to upgrade.
 
 Kind regards,
 Andrei

No, that's not the problem.

No entry appears in /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log other 
than the dry runs.

i.e. today on 20 October the last entry is still from yesterday:

2014-10-19 14:38:11,701 DEBUG pkgs that look like they should be upgraded: 
2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 DEBUG fetch.run() result: 0
2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 DEBUG blacklist: []
2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 DEBUG InstCount=0 DelCount=0 BrokenCout=0
2014-10-19 14:38:11,709 INFO No packages found that can be upgraded unattended

although a test script with timestamp reports that cron.daily ran: 10202014 
07:35:02 : Test Daily

On another system with working unattended-upgrades  iceweasel was installed by 
unattended-upgrades today.

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Re: Problem with quotatool

2014-10-20 Thread Tanstaafl

On 10/20/2014 9:39 AM, Peter Buzanits buzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am 2014-10-20 um 15:17 schrieb Tanstaafl:
 On 10/20/2014 6:58 AM, Peter Buzanits buzan...@gmail.com wrote:
 VMware ESX 4.0.0 Build 236512

 That is really old...
 
 You think that the hypervisor could cause problems in the kernel? Are
 there any known issues with old VMware and new Linux kernels?

I was simply pointing out that that version od ESX is really old.


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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Read


On 20/10/14 01:28, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Did they successed with wayland? I just took a look at weston and it
seems to be linked to stuffD... and with Dbus, when I thought I had read
time ago things about them using a home-made bus, because they thought
dbus was too heavy... I hope I'm wrong?


A default build of the Weston reference Wayland compositor will link 
against libdbus, because the default build includes support for 
interacting with logind.


It *appears* (from the options offered by the configure script) that 
building Weston with dbus and logind support is optional. Not being 
involved in the project, I have no information about how well-tested 
that configuration is and will leave any further commentary on the 
subject to people who have the relevant knowledge.



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Re: Good news on claws-mail

On 20/10/14 04:48, Peter Nieman wrote:
 On 19/10/14 15:04, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 You hijacked the thread - and this is why that's considered bad form -
 it muddies the discussion. 

-8---8--
 
 Yes, Dad.
 
 

The consequences of your decision to ride a bike downhill without a seat
are predictable. Don't you think?


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Re: unattended-upgrades

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 02:46:07PM +0200, Chris wrote:
 origin=Debian,archive=stable,label=Debian-Security;
 Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern:: 
 origin=Debian,archive=oldstable,label=Debian-Security;
 ^
Is that right?

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Re: Good news on claws-mail

2014-10-20 Thread Peter Nieman


On 20/10/14 13:53, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Du, 19 oct 14, 15:35:47, Peter Nieman wrote:

Anyway, evince *recommends* dbus-X11, but after removing dbus it no
longer worked.


Could you please elaborate on it no longer worked? Do you get any
errors if you start it from a terminal?


Yes, I got an error line, but I don't remember exactly what it was, only 
that it was something about dbus (if my memory isn't failing me completely).


What I had done is this (according to the aptitude log):

I removed liferea, that removed gconf-service, gconf2, gconf2-common, 
libgconf-2-4, libjson-glib-1.0-0, libunique-1.0-0, and liferea-data for 
no longer being used.


Then I removed dbus-x11 and dbus, which - thankfully - also removed 
libsystemd-login0.


After that, evince was no longer able to open any pdf files.

But it doesn't matter to me any longer, as I'm no longer interested in 
evince. qpdfview is much better anyway.


Kind regards,
p.


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Re: Avoid reboot by loading initramfs again

2014-10-20 Thread Gary Dale


On 20/10/14 09:36 AM, Jimmy Thrasibule wrote:

SW See Qubes
SW
SW Its what Amazon uses for AWS. Its based on Fedora but idk of a Debian based
SW distro with a similar focus

My use case is more for a server environment so this is not what I'm
looking for here. I really mean managing the machine from a memory
image without a livecd or anything else.

But this may fit for another idea of mine [1].


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01607.html


Have you considered statically linking the kernel to all the required 
modules and disabling hardware detection?



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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   We were objecting to
  the ad hominem unpleasantness and destruction of the list.
 
 Let me try to explain (yet again, sorry, but re-wording things
 sometimes does help) my point of view and why some of what I have said
 should not be considered ad hominem. (Some will say pessimistic, I
 won't argue with that, even though I think pessimism is warranted.)

[big snip]

 Does this help explain why what appears to some as mere turf battles
 and childish name-calling, etc., is a bit more than playground antics?

Not to me. All these discussions could very well happen on the -offtopic 
list. Currently one of Debian's main support channels is being DOSed 
with these debates.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: download files from iceweasel using kdialog

On 20/10/14 04:39, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Jimmy Johnson
 field.engin...@gmail.com mailto:field.engin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
 
 When I download a file via chromium, it uses kdialog to figure
 out where the file is supposed to be stored on the disk. I find
 this GUI to be very intuitive compared to what iceweasel uses
 for choosing the file location.
 
 Is there any way to tell iceweasel to use kdialog to choose the
 file location when I try to download something?
 
 
 
 Have you made your settings in 'Paths', KDE/'systemsetting'/'Account
 Details'?
 
 
 May be I am missing something... But how is this related to the file
 dialog opened by iceweasel when downloading something?
 
 raju
 

Jimmy is giving you a way to change where Downloads is located - if you
are using KDE. When y/z is not possible - try x/y.

Despite your obvious good intentions you haven't given us much to work
with - which DE you are using - and why - and how, the KDE filepicker
dialog suits your purpose better. Some example of where you want to save
files - and why, might help.

Kind regards


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Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ

Guys,

I really do NOT want to start a flame war, I know that you guys are tired
about this init subject appearing over and over... But, my turn...:-P


*First things first: Why I'm with Debian / Ubuntu?*


A.: Because *I like the work of Debian Maintainers* (you guys and gals,
sirs and madams), about how Debian *compiles and packages* *every single
piece of open source software out there* (i.e., its `configure ; make ;
make install` from `debian/rules`, I love it).


I really don't care that much about what init system I have (I'm using
upstart and sysvinit these days, never used systemd - it IS too unstable (I
tried it without success, lots of bugs popped everywhere when with
systemd), invasive and dangerous to our comunity project (a.k.a. Debian))...

But please, guys, DO NOT LOSE *DEBIAN COMPILATION*!!

I mean, when I read that infamous guy, Poettering, talking about things
like this:


http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html

It creeps the hell outta me! Specially this:


...This greatly simplifies application installation, as there's no
dependency hell... - Poettring.


So, this guy uses a RPM-based distro, called RedHat/CentOS/Fedora, right?!
I feel sorry for him... Poor guy...

Only that crap-distro(s) have a dependency hell, not our shiny Debian. I
don't know what that guy is talking about, honestly (well, no, I know -
rpm+yum sucks).   =P

Anyway, I see that there is room for improvements on software installing
and updating (binary diffs, cow and etc?) but, wait, systemd instead of
dpkg/apt?! I thought this thing was supposed to replace ONLY the init
system, nothing more, neither udev (already engulfed)...

So, is systemd even trying to replace dpkg+apt too? Come guys... For real?!

*Please, do not let this to happen here! Do not lose Debian Compilation,
and packaging, do not lose [dpkg / apt] / debian/rules, for systemd!*

*Also, do not lose `dpkg-buildpackage` for systemd-buildpackage!!*

This systemd thing *has already gone too far*. Keep systemd at its bare
minimum level... Do not let it take over the whole distro.


Honestly, I don't fear systemd itself, or binary logs... I fear things like
this:


Linux Kernel Developers Fed Up With Ridiculous Bugs In Systemd:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTY1MzA

Linux systemd dev says open source is 'SICK', kernel community 'awful':
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/06/poettering_says_linux_kernel_community_is_hostil/


So, lets move on over this systemd thing, *keep it at its bare minimum
level...*

I'm fine with a new init system, our current state of technology allows us
to do that, something like systemd (I like its ideas, but don't like its
Mr. Knowitall implementation, *it looks really ugly and bloated*),
nevertheless, I'll try it later, maybe on 2016~2020, if it proves itself
really stable (i.e., a nonissue in the near future) AND upstream developers
change their attitude / behavior on bug handling, etc...

Please guys, don't take me wrong (no flame wars okay?!)... I'm just
concerned about the preservation of our amazing Linux/kFreeBSD distro!
Keeping `sysvinit-core` in Debian 8 (9, 10...) *at a reliable level* *is a
wise thing to do*. Just in case... (I don't trust RedHat neither the
Corporatocracy).

So! Let the men write their own init scripts powered by `sysvinit-core` for
a long time ahead! Don't throw this away! Also, keep kfreebsd flavor for
how long as possible (*without systemd things*, of course)! On Linux, it is
fine to have systemd installed and around (like systemd-udev, logind0 and
etc) but, sysvinit is important (even upstart is), do not lose it...

BTW, *during Debian 8 installation, please, provide a (d-i, tasksel,
alternatives, whatever) interface for selecting the initsystem*, *this is
important!* I know that it seems pretty easy to just run apt-get install
sysvinit-core (or preseed it) (to get rid of systemd as init) after the
installation but, if that [initsystem selection] option appear (during the
installation), *this will make Debian even stronger*, as the only distro
that provides, at least, two (sysvinit|systemd) reliable init systems. *How
cool is that?!*

Also, without an interface for selecting an init system on Jessie, *the
popularity contest becomes unfair*.

Honestly, I would like to wake up from this systemd nightmare.

I'm seeing that there is demand for a brand new Linux distribution, that
will sit right in the middle of Debian and Slackware... Something like a
Debian fork without DBus, systemd and PAM, but still with dpkg/apt d-i
and lots of packages. Lets do it?! Lets fork Debian and remove systemd,
dbus and pam out from it?! The fork `uselessd` (or a new udev) becomes more
and more a necessity.

Just for the record, today is the first day that I tested systemd, then,
systemd-journal consumed 100% of my CPU (plus rsyslog), something related
to GPM and, ecryptfs does not umount my home dir anymore, after logout...
Is it a systemd problem? How can I

Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

On Lu, 20 oct 14, 16:16:00, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 
 At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at
 installation time. What you did in the meantime...
 
   I did:  apt-get --reinstall install samba-common
 
   So, it seems that with --reinstall, the postinst script is not
   executed, which is not what I would expect.

You might have better success with

dpkg-reconfigure samba-common

instead.

   I saw:
 
You can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall
packagename. This completely removes the package (but not its
dependencies), and then re-install the package.

That doesn't appear to be from the apt-get manual and seems wrong to me.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

On Lu, 20 oct 14, 09:49:24, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 
 Well, it's worth noting that in many areas of endeavor, users, or user
 communities, write specifications/standards that all players have to meet.
 So, for example, when one buys an ethernet card - vendors really do not
 really have a choice as to whether or not to implement the standards.
 
Not a good example: Ethernet is an IEEE standard and as far as I 
understand from Wikipedia this is not a user association, but a 
professional association.

 With Linux distros, including the kernel and implementing the LSB are pretty
 much things everyone has to meet (with a few notable exceptions like
 GNU/kFreeBSD - though arguably that's not Linux).

Would you please be so kind to explain how systemd breaks LSB?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: GR proposed re: choice of init systems

2014-10-20 Thread Steve Litt

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:15:47 +0300
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sb, 18 oct 14, 10:20:25, Joel Rees wrote:
 
  Does this help explain why what appears to some as mere turf battles
  and childish name-calling, etc., is a bit more than playground
  antics?
 
 Not to me. All these discussions could very well happen on the
 -offtopic list.

Sure it can. Every single status-quo supporter in history has told
protestors the same thing: If you want to ride on the front of the bus,
petition the county, but don't do boycotts and civil disobediance.

Yes, if we all wanted to have a polite discussion amongst ourselves,
reaching nobody but those wanting to discuss cars, Obama, Ebola, and the
Mideast, we certainly could go on the offtopic list. But we want to:

A) Reach real people involved in the situation
B) Build a community

Frankly, telling us we can do it on the offtopic list is an insult to
our intelligence. You know it, and we know it.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


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