Re: Fetchmail (long); continually losing authentication with gmx.net

[Frédéric Marchal]

2014-11-25 21:34 GMT+01:00 Ron Leach :
> Did the trick.  Logs show that fetchmail is
> 1. using opportunistic TLS on pop3, but
> 2. Sometimes times out after receiving a certificate, and then
> 3. Fetchmail declines to use TLS with the *next* user, but
> 4. gmx complains about not using ssl, and fails the authorisation.
>
> That repeats at each poll.  I wonder what might be causing the timeout?  But
> shouldn't fetchmail tolerate communication hiccups, anyway?  (Rhetorical
> Qs.)
>
> I'll post the log showing the fail event(s) in case it helps, but I think
> I'd like to run either the latest fetchmail (from sourceforge), or the
> version from Debian Etch (which doesn't fail).
>
> Here's a failing fetchmail log (anonymised).  Fetchmail tries to collect
> mail for 2 users, user1 and user2.  TLS fails during user1, and fetchmail
> then doesn't try TLS for user2 (and doesn't try TLS ever again for user2,
> though not shown here), but gmx complains every time about not using SSL.
>
> fetchmail: awakened at Tue 25 Nov 2014 18:33:40 GMT
> fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 2014
> 18:33:40 GMT: poll started
> fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
> fetchmail: POP3< TOP
> fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
> fetchmail: POP3< STLS
> fetchmail: POP3< USER
> fetchmail: POP3< SASL PLAIN
> fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION trinity
> fetchmail: POP3< .
> fetchmail: POP3> STLS
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Begin TLS negotiation
> fetchmail: Certificate chain, from root to peer, starting at depth 2:
> fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: Deutsche Telekom AG
> fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
> fetchmail: Subject CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
> fetchmail: Certificate at depth 1:
> fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: Deutsche Telekom AG
> fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
> fetchmail: Subject CommonName: TeleSec ServerPass DE-1
> fetchmail: Server certificate:
> fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: T-Systems International GmbH
> fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: TeleSec ServerPass DE-1
> fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
> fetchmail: Subject Alternative Name: pop.gmx.net
> fetchmail: Subject Alternative Name: pop.gmx.de
> fetchmail: pop.gmx.net key fingerprint:
> 8A:B7:78:CF:0D:73:4E:EE:FF:EB:B8:C0:90:7D:46:56
> fetchmail: timeout after 100 seconds.
> fetchmail: socket error while fetching from [user1]@gmx@pop.gmx.net
> fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 2014
> 18:35:37 GMT: poll completed
> fetchmail: Merged UID list from pop.gmx.net: 0[…]= SEEN
> fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
> fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 2014
> 18:35:37 GMT: poll started
> fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
> fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
> fetchmail: POP3< TOP
> fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
> fetchmail: POP3< STLS
> fetchmail: POP3< USER
> fetchmail: POP3< SASL PLAIN
> fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION trinity
> fetchmail: POP3< .
> fetchmail: POP3> STLS
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK Begin TLS negotiation
> fetchmail: pop.gmx.net: opportunistic upgrade to TLS failed, trying to
> continue.
> fetchmail: POP3> USER [user2]@gmx.net
> fetchmail: Repoll immediately on [user2]@gmx@pop.gmx.net
> fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
> fetchmail: POP3> USER [user2]@gmx.net
> fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required for user "[user2]@gmx.net"
> fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
> fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Fehler beim Abruf Ihrer GMX E-Mails. Ihre Verbindung
> ist nicht verschluesselt. Aktivieren Sie SSL in Ihrem Mailprogramm.
> Anleitungen: https://ssl.gmx.net
> fetchmail: Fehler beim Abruf Ihrer GMX E-Mails. Ihre Verbindung ist nicht
> verschluesselt. Aktivieren Sie SSL in Ihrem Mailprogramm. Anleitungen:
> https://ssl.gmx.net
>
> Translation: Error retrieving your GMX email. Your connection is not
> encrypted. Enable SSL in your mail program. Instructions:
> https://ssl.gmx.net
>
> fetchmail: Authorisation failure on [user2]@gmx@pop.gmx.net (previously
> authorised)
> fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
> fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 2014
> 18:36:42 GMT: poll completed
> fetchmail: Merged UID list from pop.gmx.net: 0[…]= SEEN
> fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL)
> fetchmail: Writing fetchids file.
> fetchmail: sleeping at Tue 25 Nov 2014 18:36:42 GMT for 150 seconds
>
> I've also saved a log showing the preceding (working) sequence where
> fetchmail successfully checks mailboxes for both users; I didn't post it, to
> save length, but can do if anyone wishes to see it.
>
> I'm not sure what to do.  In particular, I'm not sure whether I should try
> to debug this a li

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 16:14, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> Sorry, I don't know what DE means!
>> Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc
> 
> KFCE. 

??

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kfce&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
Gives me nothing :(

Assuming the best intentions, and that "KFCE" isn't a typo - it still
"appears" you are not running Debian, it's 'possible' you are using Mint
- which is a Debian "derivative". This the *Debian*-User list, the wrong
place to expect support for anything other than Debian or Debian
PureBlends for several[*1] reasons.

Are you using Debian??

Respectfully - I have duplicated as much as possible the system you
described for testing and confirmation, but sadly there's no point in me
posting the results and continuing this exchange, unless you can confirm
that you run Debian

[*1]the chemistry of potato products != those of potatoes, the people
reading and searching this list are looking for information on Debian,
and I have to limit my time to the same.

Kindly


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Erwan David]

> 
> It isn't a default, the Gnome3 GUI will not work without hardware
> acceleration. In the beginning, after an upgrade, there was a fallback
> to a sort of Gnome2 display, but minus all the panels, icons etc. that
> had been there before the upgrade. The long-term fallback is Xfce and
> other lightweights.

So this means gnome now depends on non free drivers ?


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Partitioning gpt disk

[Rusi Mody]

Trying to setup linux on lenovo laptop.
I find that its gpt as expected and there are some 5 partitions
(as shown by compmgmt in windows)

| recovery  | 1G   |
| EFI   | 260M |
| OEM   | 1G   |
| Windows8 (C:) | 424G |
| Lenovo   (D:) | 25G  |
| Recovery  | 14G  |

Clearly its the windows (C:) that needs to be shrunk for the linux.

Q.1  In the past (mbr) Ive invaribly found that adding a partition
in the middle causes all sorts of trouble.

How is it with gpt?

Q.2 There are some stories that modern disks need stricter alignment
restrictions than the classic 512 byte block
eg http://askubuntu.com/questions/314262/partition-alignment-confusion

Whats the current 'best-practice' for optimal alignment of partitions?
[Given that windows seems to be more uptodate than parted on this
I am assuming that making all partitions in windows and then installing
linux should be foolproof.  However its a bit of a headache
jumping between windows and linux
]


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icedove+iceowl+junk +"This message contains an invitation to an event"

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Hi,

since a few days I am getting the following message when applying the junk 
filter to my inbox:  "This message contains an invitation to an event"
I can not do anything about it and it does not tell me which message it means. 
Any idea how to solve that?

7# dpkg -l | egrep "icedove|iceowl"


 ii  
calendar-exchange-provider  3.2.0~beta47-1  
   all  MS Exchange support for iceowl-extension

   
ii  calendar-google-provider31.2.0-1
   all  Google Calendar support for lightning- and 
iceowl-extension

ii  icedove 31.2.0-1
   amd64mail/news client with RSS and integrated 
spam filter support 
  
ii  icedove-l10n-de 1:31.0-1
   all  German language package for Icedove 

   
ii  iceowl-extension31.2.0-1
   amd64Calendar Extension for Thunderbird/Icedove  

   

Greetings
Matthias


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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Rick Macdonald]

On 25/11/14 10:14 PM, Rick Macdonald wrote:


OK, I tried all that and it makes no difference. With either line in 
fstab there are no messages in syslog from fuse/ntfs-3g about that 
partition, and I have to mount it manually. We're you expecting it to 
auto-mount?


The following run as root mounts it as me with mode 666, exactly what I 
want. The question is still, how on earth to pass the mask values during 
the auto-mount?


ntfs-3g -o 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=,fmask= 
/dev/sdg2 /media/WinBackup


Rick


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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Rick Macdonald]

On 25/11/14 08:46 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Sorry, I don't know what DE means!
Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc


KFCE. I had to abandon GNOME when they removed all the customization 
settings...



but it's already on the mount command line. The problem seems to be
the dmask & fmask values restrict access regardless.

No. You need to uncomment line 9 in /etc/fuse.conf so that allow_user
will work in your fstab (from not-to-be relied on memory - it still
won't allow a non-root user to umount the device).
This is the line you need to uncomment:-
#user_allow_other


I had already uncommented that line, but it made no difference. I 
couldn't see that I had to restart any service. I didn't reboot.




In which case I'd "recommend":-
*1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf

*2.* changing the fstab line to:-
LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g
uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0

*3.* check that you are a member of the "disk" group (as a "user":-
groups |grep disk
if you aren't, become one (as "root")[*1]:-
gpasswd -a $YourUsername disk

[*1] "groups" won't show your changed group membership until after
you've logged out, and logged back in. You can use the following if you
need to double-check:-
grep disk /etc/group


OK, I tried all that and it makes no difference. With either line in 
fstab there are no messages in syslog from fuse/ntfs-3g about that 
partition, and I have to mount it manually. We're you expecting it to 
auto-mount?


Rick


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Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 13:53, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:11:04AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> Paul Scott wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November.
> Is there an alternative of a free dsn server?
>
 I meant dnsdynamic of course...
>>>
>>> You give no description but from the name it seems pretty clear that you
>>> want a dynamic dns service.
>>>
>>> I have been using dyndns.org from dyn.com for years.
>>>
>>
>> But they are no longer free are they?
> 
> Doesn't look like it,

Agreed
curl -s http://dyn.com | html2text | head -n 14
Managed DNS Express: Fast, reliable DNS without breaking the bank. Get
your first month FREE today!

> or it's well hidden within their site.
>

Seems unlikely given the "first month free", which is not dissimilar to
the service I suggested where you have to re-register every 30 days.

For people searching for other "free" options:-
https://www.dnsdynamic.org/

I haven't used them, their service can be used with ddclient:-
http://www.dnsdynamic.org/download/ddclient.conf


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 12:46, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> On 26/11/2014 11:07 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> And *what do we know about the original "customisation"* that was
>> made - which may have 'some' bearing on the "badness" of the
>> upgrade/update "defaults"??
> 
> Oh, I get it,

Patently, and demonstrably - you do *not*.

Assuming your best intentions[*1], let me try and make it simple for you:-
It's considered Best Practise to *identify*[*2] the problem *before*
attempting to *solve* it. e.g.:-
if a plane falls from the sky and it's discovered that a critical
component was broken - first determine whether component failed before
implementing more rigorous manufacturing requirements. Lest it be later
be discovered that a new component was not installed (maintenance
problem) or sabotage. i.e. you can't fix a problem you don't understand.

In this instance - while Patrick has done the "right" thing by finding
and publishing a solution, he hasn't provided any information about what
he originally used for suspend - and how, or if, the laptop was not
previously suspending. Only that it was a long time ago and he doesn't
remember
().

FWIW - I "suspect" that, provisionally, laptop-detect should ask before
defaulting to suspend. I don't "know" that it doesn't - or whether,
somehow, systemd over-rides it if it does. I do "know" from similar
circumstances[*3] that using the late option in pre-seeding to remove
laptop-detect prevents suspend.

So before debating the upgrade process it 'might' be best to try and
recreate the scenario don't you think?

[*1] The triumph of optimism over experience?
[*2] Which requires "research". Your fallacious "conclusions" about me
demonstrate a poor grasp of what "research" means. i.e. Searching for
"evidence" to confirm a belief is *not* research. It leads only to
confirmation bias. Your instance being a case in point.
[*3] an old Gateway laptop with a broken screen used as a firewall

> you think Debian is perfect and that systemd could not
> possibly be the cause of the problem

No. I suggest you brush up on your reading skills and save yourself the
awkward gynastics required to sustain your unrealistic "views".
Suggesting that the original set-up be considered so that the systemd
installation/release upgrade process causes less problems is
antithetical to your flimsy excuse for a personal attack.

In short, you are 'trying' too hard.

> -- that's funny

Please enjoy your snortle.

> ; now I understand

Your "perception" is misguided.


> why you are so unreasonable with people having issues with systemd.

Again, your "perception" is misguided. I have a great deal of patience
for people with genuine problems resulting from them installing systemd.
Problematic people not so much. There's a difference.

> 
> In short, you are deluded.

Your, deserved, opinion says nothing of me and speaks volumes of you.

> 
> A.
> 
> 
> 

It would be nice if I could have used the time replying to your
obstreperous and bilious attack helping people with Debian problems.


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Re: latest backports kernel not booting when LVM is involved

[Gary Dale]

On 25/11/14 02:14 PM, lee wrote:

Hi,

what could be the problem with the backport kernels?  They never finish
booting when the root fs is on an LVM volume.

Do I need to take special precautions with the backports kernel to get
it to boot?  I have a separate /boot partition not on LVM and a biosgrub
partition with the root fs on an LVM logical volume.  The default Wheezy
kernel boots just fine; the backports kernel gets stuck with the last
message being that some random-thing has been initialized.  The kernel
is still alive then: I can plug/unplug USB devices and get messages
about it on the console.  I can also see that the LVM volumes are
detected.
What happens if you boot to a recovery console/single user mode instead 
of a normal boot? Or can you get to a console using Ctrl-Alt-F2?



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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Scott Ferguson]

I missed some questions there :(

On 26/11/14 14:46, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 26/11/14 11:41, Rick Macdonald wrote:
>> On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote:



>>
>> "fuse" doesn't seem to be a binary executable,

Not by that name.

/sbin/mount.fuse

>> and I can't find where
>> these command line args are coming from when mount is called.

/sbin/mount.ntfs (it's symlinked to /sbin/mount.ntfs-3g)




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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 11:41, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote:
>>> Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire 
>>> filesystem, have failed me this time.
>>> 
>>> I'm running up-to-date wheezy.
>> DE?
> 
> Sorry, I don't know what DE means!

Desktop Environment e.g. GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, etc


Probably irrelevant now - given your requirements (Plex) and your stated
usage (only user) the fstab I've suggested solve the mounting
requirement. Please note that I can't test this for you.

Understanding fuse/ntfs-3g? See the ref to the documentation at the
bottom of this post. It's not the easiest read but it may answer your
question.



>>> I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab 
>>> (which somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have 
>>> it auto mount whenever I plug it in. LABEL=WinBackup 
>>> /media/WinBackup ntfs 
>>> rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask=
>>> 0 0
>>> 

>> What does "allow_other" do?
> 
> allow_other (man mount.fuse)

Yes.
In inadvertently rhetorical question. I 'should' have asked "did you
apply the changes to the fuse conf to allow that option to work?" My
apologies (I can be a bit thick).



> You'd think that's all I need,

Agreed

> but it's already on the mount command line. The problem seems to be 
> the dmask & fmask values restrict access regardless.

No. You need to uncomment line 9 in /etc/fuse.conf so that allow_user
will work in your fstab (from not-to-be relied on memory - it still
won't allow a non-root user to umount the device).
This is the line you need to uncomment:-
#user_allow_other

Read on for a step-by-step guide on what's required.

> 
>> Why "umask=" (instead of 0022)? Why not 
>> "uid=$username,gid=users"
> 
> All the options were copied from the mount options in the syslog 
> above. I removed the ones that mount didn't like (blkdev and
> fsname). I wanted to start with what (I think) fuse is giving ntfs-3g
> on it's command line (not that that's a valid thing to do).
> 
> "fuse" doesn't seem to be a binary executable, and I can't find where
> these command line args are coming from when mount is called.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Do you want to retain and use standard Windows permissions? How 
>> many people will need access to the disk?
>> 
> 
> Nobody else uses the machine, but I need the permissions opened up.


In which case I'd "recommend":-
*1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf

*2.* changing the fstab line to:-
LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g
uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0

*3.* check that you are a member of the "disk" group (as a "user":-
groups |grep disk
if you aren't, become one (as "root")[*1]:-
gpasswd -a $YourUsername disk

[*1] "groups" won't show your changed group membership until after
you've logged out, and logged back in. You can use the following if you
need to double-check:-
grep disk /etc/group


> When my WinXP server died I moved my videos to my Linux desktop. I 
> usually use Serviio but thought I'd give Plex a try (Plex doesn't 
> support XP so I couldn't give it a try until now). Plex runs as user 
> "plex" and cannot read any of the files on this USB disk when mounted
> under my account with mode 600 permissions. Plex has an option to let
> the client delete videos, so while testing I chose . I could tell
> Plex to run as me, but that's no good because its files are installed
> under /var/lib/plexmediaserver, and if I change the ownership of
> those it would likely break upgrading Plex when the next deb file is
> released.

Thanks - I've made the above suggestions with that in mind.

> 
> Rick
> 
> 

Useful refs:-
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged


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Re: Haven't seen this ssh output before

[Jochen Spieker]

Harry Putnam:
> 
> harry-on-REMOTE-sol > ssh REMOTE-deb
> 
>no common kex alg: client
>'diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1',
>server   
>
> 'curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1'

This means client and server couldn't agree on a key exchange
algorithm. If you compare the client's and the server's list you will
notice they have nothing in common.

What flavor if Debian is the remote host running? The package
openssh-server from unstable has this more or less recent changelog
entry:

openssh (1:6.7p1-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  * New upstream release (http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-6.7):
- sshd(8): The default set of ciphers and MACs has been altered to
  remove unsafe algorithms.  In particular, CBC ciphers and arcfour* are
  disabled by default.  The full set of algorithms remains available if
  configured explicitly via the Ciphers and MACs sshd_config options.
…
 -- Colin Watson   Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:05:56 +0100


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[dE]

On 11/24/14 04:06, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

I am NOT starting another flamewar about systemd, but I was just
upgrading a headless system (an old T61p laptop which has no
functioning screen any more but which otherwise runs well and which I
use as an internal webserver) by running aptitude in an ssh session.
All went well until udev got upgraded, when I lost contact with the
server and could not ping it.

Looking at the laptop, I noticed that the suspend indicator was on,
even though I have had power management ignore the lid switch. I
opened the lid and it resumed. I was able again to ping and ssh into
the server. However, 'w' told me that the machine had been up for 85
days, which meant it was time to reboot. I did that - it took a VERY
long time to come back up, compared with how quickly it used to reboot
- but when I closed the lid, it suspended again.

It turns out that logind, a piece of systemd, has taken over power
management by default. Editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf so that it
contains "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" and restarting logind (with 'sudo
systemctl restart systemd-logind')[1] has corrected the problem.

My situation is probably rather unusual and so others may not run into
the same problem, but just in case, this information may help.

Patrick
  [1]See 
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/52643/how-to-disable-auto-suspend-when-i-close-laptop-lid,
which I found by Googling.




Lessons learned -- Never upgrade to Jessie. Do a fresh install instead.


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

[Marc Shapiro]

On 11/24/2014 02:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
working all day (almost beer o'clock)

On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.




You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
--log-priority=debug")

Sorry - did you apply the above, and if so - what do the logs show?
(please post any relevant information for all to reference.).

Yes, I did.  What log should I be looking in and what should I be
looking for?

syslog.

e.g. as root:-
tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | less


I apologize for not making it clear that I had tried all of these
suggestions.


The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is
my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output
from dmesg and my comments, above).

It's possible that a fusefs has "grabbed" the device... I have little
experience with Apple devices so this is a learning curve for me to. I'm
guessing you run GNOME - something else I have (very) little experience
with.

I am using Mate.  I do not like the Gnome 3 paradigm.

I no nothing of GNOME - but I "believe" Mate is just the visual part of
the DE (i.e. the vfs is still GNOME3)


Please try unplugging the device, them, while running as root, "udevadm
monitor --property" and posting the results from plugging the Apple
device back in (if any).




I will try the  "udevadm monitor --property" command once I have the
device available again.

Marc




This is the result of plugging the device in while running "udevadm 
monitor --property", waiting a minute or so, and then unplugging the device:



UDEV  [275538.578940] remove 
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2 (usb)

ACTION=remove
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=255/253/1
MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFDip01in02
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1785
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USEC_INITIALIZED=275538570017

UDEV  [275538.584890] remove 
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4 (usb)

ACTION=remove
BUSNUM=004
COLORD_DEVICE=1
COLORD_KIND=camera
DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/004/019
DEVNUM=019
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4
DEVTYPE=usb_device
GPHOTO2_DRIVER=PTP
ID_BUS=usb
ID_GPHOTO2=1
ID_MODEL=iPod
ID_MODEL_ENC=iPod
ID_MODEL_ID=12aa
ID_REVISION=0510
ID_SERIAL=Apple_Inc._iPod_ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_SERIAL_SHORT=ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_USB_INTERFACES=:060101:010100:010200:03:fffe02:fffd01:
ID_VENDOR=Apple_Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ENC=Apple\x20Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ID=05ac
MAJOR=189
MINOR=402
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1786
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TAGS=:udev-acl:
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USBMUX_SUPPORTED=1
USEC_INITIALIZED=275471311002


It's mostly Greek to me, but if it gives you any hints I will be glad to 
hear it.


Marc



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Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:11:04AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Paul Scott wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >>Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November.
> >>>Is there an alternative of a free dsn server?
> >>>
> >>I meant dnsdynamic of course...
> >
> >You give no description but from the name it seems pretty clear that you
> >want a dynamic dns service.
> >
> >I have been using dyndns.org from dyn.com for years.
> >
> 
> But they are no longer free are they?

Doesn't look like it, or it's well hidden within their site.

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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Andrew McGlashan]

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On 26/11/2014 11:07 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> And *what do we know about the original "customisation"* that was
> made - which may have 'some' bearing on the "badness" of the
> upgrade/update "defaults"??

Oh, I get it, you think Debian is perfect and that systemd could not
possibly be the cause of the problem -- that's funny; now I understand
why you are so unreasonable with people having issues with systemd.

In short, you are deluded.

A.

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Haven't seen this ssh output before

[Harry Putnam]

Running debian jessie

I have one openindiana (solaris) host on my home lan. That host has
had no updates or changes recently.

Following a `full-upgrade' yesterday on a debian host, I am now seeing
an ssh failure with output I have not seen before, when ssh from
openindian host to debian host (newly full upgraded).

>From here on I'll refer to the hosts as LOCAL-sol and REMOTE-deb

The LOCAL-sol host can ssh to all other lan hosts without problems,
including 2 other debian hosts (not recently upgraded)

So cutting to the chase: It appears likely that something changed on
REMOTE-deb that is causing incoming ssh from LOCAL-sol to fail.
Apparently something in the OS makeup of LOCAL-sol host
disagrees with some recent change in REMOTE-deb.

I use the following command very often until now:

from: LOCAL-sol ssh to  REMOTE-deb

Note that I do not use any kind of key matching, agents or what not... just
straight ssh password access for quite a long time.

Also note as posted above... this same LOCAL-sol host can ssh to other
(non-upgraded) debian hosts on my lan with no problem.

---   ---   ---=---   ---   --- 
harry-on-REMOTE-sol > ssh REMOTE-deb

   no common kex alg: client
   'diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1',
   server   
   
'curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1'

---   ---   ---=---   ---   ---

(ssh Verbose output is posted futher along).

Its possible I've changed something on the LOCAL-sol  host... but can't think
what it might be.

Further, the ssh -vv ouput below is pretty confusing to me, and did
not help me debug it.

Googling the above error output lead to some similar occurances but
from quite a good while  ago... 2005-2006 and I did not see the solution.

---   ---   ---=---   ---   ---

from LOCAL-sol > ssh -vv  REMOTE-deb
(I've edited host names below, where ever I saw them)

Sun_SSH_1.5, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090819f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
debug1: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to REMOTE-deb [192.168.0.5] port 22.
debug1: Connection established.
debug1: identity file /home/harry/.ssh/identity type -1
debug1: identity file /home/harry/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
debug1: identity file /home/harry/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_6.7p1 
Debian-3
debug1: match: OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-3 pat OpenSSH*
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-Sun_SSH_1.5
debug1: use_engine is 'yes'
debug1: pkcs11 engine initialized, now setting it as default for RSA, DSA, and 
symmetric ciphers
debug1: pkcs11 engine initialization complete
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,blowfish-cbc,3des-cbc
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,blowfish-cbc,3des-cbc
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: en-US
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: en-US
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 
debug1: Failed to acquire GSS-API credentials for any mechanisms (No 
credentials were supplied, or the credentials were unavailable or inaccessible

)
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha1,diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,blowfish-cbc,3des-cbc
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,arcfour128,arcfour256,arcfour,aes128-cbc,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc,blowfish-cbc,3des-cbc
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: hmac-md5,hmac-sha1,hmac-sha1-96,hmac-md5-96
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: none,zlib
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: en-US
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: en-US
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: first_kex_follows 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: reserved 0 
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: 
curve25519-sha...@libssh.org,ecdh-sha2-nistp256,ecdh-sha2-nistp384,ecdh-sha2-nistp521,diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256,diffie-hellman-group14-sha1
debug2: kex_parse_kexinit: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed255

Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Rick Macdonald]

On 25/11/14 04:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote:

Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem,
have failed me this time.

I'm running up-to-date wheezy.

DE?


Sorry, I don't know what DE means! It's an i386 desktop that's been 
running Debian since the 0.93 days in the mid-90's before Buzz was 
released (OK, it's gone through some hardware upgrades ;-).



How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I
have that right)?

I have an NTFS filesystem on a USB-connected hard drive. With nothing in
fstab, it gets auto-mounted as /media/WinBackup:

syslog:

Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Version 2012.1.15AR.5 external
FUSE 29
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mounted /dev/sdg2 (Read-Write,
label "WinBackup", NTFS 3.1)
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Cmdline options:
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mount options:
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sdg2,blkdev,blksize=4096

Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Global ownership and permissions
enforced, configuration type 7

According to the fuse man page, /etc/fuse.conf only supports mount_max
and user_allow_other.

I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab (which
somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have it auto mount
whenever I plug it in.


Without knowing more about your "Wheezy" the easiest option is probably
to create a custom udev rule.


I'll look into that, but I hope to understand something about 
fuse/ntfs-3g since I've come this far.



LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask=
0 0

What does "allow_other" do?


allow_other (man mount.fuse) lets users other than the one who mounted 
the filesystem access files. You'd think that's all I need, but it's 
already on the mount command line. The problem seems to be the dmask & 
fmask values restrict access regardless.



Why "umask=" (instead of 0022)?
Why not "uid=$username,gid=users"


All the options were copied from the mount options in the syslog above. 
I removed the ones that mount didn't like (blkdev and fsname). I wanted 
to start with what (I think) fuse is giving ntfs-3g on it's command line 
(not that that's a valid thing to do).


"fuse" doesn't seem to be a binary executable, and I can't find where 
these command line args are coming from when mount is called.





Do you want to retain and use standard Windows permissions?
How many people will need access to the disk?



Nobody else uses the machine, but I need the permissions opened up. When 
my WinXP server died I moved my videos to my Linux desktop. I usually 
use Serviio but thought I'd give Plex a try (Plex doesn't support XP so 
I couldn't give it a try until now). Plex runs as user "plex" and cannot 
read any of the files on this USB disk when mounted under my account 
with mode 600 permissions. Plex has an option to let the client delete 
videos, so while testing I chose . I could tell Plex to run as me, 
but that's no good because its files are installed under 
/var/lib/plexmediaserver, and if I change the ownership of those it 
would likely break upgrading Plex when the next deb file is released.


Rick


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Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 10:49, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
> On 2014-11-25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> 

> 
> Good thing. dnsdynamic stopped working again today.

Seems they may have a systemic problem:-
https://twitter.com/dnsdynamic



> 
> Regards,
> 
> Howard E.
> 
> 


Kind regards


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 09:14, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:44:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> Or, perhaps a general rule for default settings - "safest/do no harm"?
>> [just a wild guess]
> 
> Wouldn't it make more sense having the default meaning: guarranteed to
> work on the majority of systems/setups enabling the admin to later
> change the defaults to better suit their own particular needs.

If that "breaks" things - no. How does the current system *not* enable
the admin to later reconfigure?

Perhaps... apt could post some sort of information message and/or a choice?
Oh wait  :D


And *what do we know about the original "customisation"* that was made -
which may have 'some' bearing on the "badness" of the upgrade/update
"defaults"??

> 
> I remember when (still is?) the default mutt configuration was having no
> colors defined so that at least it was still usable on displays without
> colour. Now *that's* clever thinking!
> 
> Now, (I hope I'm not wrong on this.) It seems that the default GNOME
> installation required a graphics card with hardware acceleration. How
> stupid is that? It goes against the whole concept of a sensible default.

I thought a similar thing when planning a web site about the IBM P/S2
series (with the MCA bus). Should I use HTML4, CSS, and Javascript? How
much backward compatibility should I support? Then I saw the irony.
In the end I realised I wasn't bound by the same limitations that lead
to the compromises called PCI, and found a way to gracefully degrade to
the lowest denominator. Neither scenarios are useful analogies for DE
development - especially using a FOSS model (though elements of both
'might' be useful for understanding the basic problems, given the luxury
of Monday morning lunch-room football coaches).

As does your question about a DE - though I know nothing about GNOME it
doesn't stop me from speculating wildly (when did it ever?). Perhaps
(and I really am speculating) the decision was made on the basis of:-
;trying to cater for the largest groups of users?
;wanting to make use of the video card to render icons?

Admittedly that's all wild speculations made with a time investment of
minute. KDE and Fluxbox don't seem to require the latest video cards -
and I don't see why I should care about a DE I don't use (or support) -
with no disrespect intended to those that do use GNOME (or did).


But mostly:-
;I don't see the relevance between the development of large desktop
environments and apt's management of relatively simple package upgrade.
;it's not a subject 'I' would casually consider if I was making the
decisions. I've given the subject of this post only minutes of thought -
which is at least days short of the research and consideration I
"suspect" it deserves. I note that I'm no super-brain and many posters
may not labour under the same limitations as I.

> 
> BTW, along the same lines, I'd expect the default *not* to suspend on
> lid-close simply because some models have "quirks" when coming out of
> suspend. 

> It should be configurable by the admin whether he¹ wants it that
> way.

Ideally. I don't pretend to understand all the issues - and 'maybe' more
importantly, I'm not willing to second-guess those that do the work.

> 
> 
> ¹ Yeah yeah or she.

They?  :)


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solved: nfs mounting

[lee]

lee  writes:

> Hi,
>
> any idea why an NFS volume is being unmounted when a VM runs out of
> memory and kills some processes?  These processes use files on the NFS
> volume, but that's no reason to unmount it.
>
> Also annoying: The volume doesn't get mounted when booting despite it's
> in /etc/fstab.  I have to log in into the VM and mount it manually.  The
> entry in fstab is correct: I can just say 'mount /mountpoint' and it's
> mounted.  Is that some Debian-specific bug?

The problem was that the xfs module was blacklisted along with others
not needed on a domU.


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latest backports kernel not booting when LVM is involved

[lee]

Hi,

what could be the problem with the backport kernels?  They never finish
booting when the root fs is on an LVM volume.

Do I need to take special precautions with the backports kernel to get
it to boot?  I have a separate /boot partition not on LVM and a biosgrub
partition with the root fs on an LVM logical volume.  The default Wheezy
kernel boots just fine; the backports kernel gets stuck with the last
message being that some random-thing has been initialized.  The kernel
is still alive then: I can plug/unplug USB devices and get messages
about it on the console.  I can also see that the LVM volumes are
detected.


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Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

[Howard Eisenberger]

On 2014-11-25, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

>> It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. 
>> Is there an alternative of a free dsn server?
>
> Thanks everybody. I switched to noip. Like Scott said, it works with 
> ddclient.

Good thing. dnsdynamic stopped working again today.
The site is up, but my dynamic domain doesn't resolve. 
For backup I use a script for my IP address without
using a domain name.

Regards,

Howard E.


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Joe]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:14:40 +1300
Chris Bannister  wrote:


> 
> Now, (I hope I'm not wrong on this.) It seems that the default GNOME
> installation required a graphics card with hardware acceleration. How
> stupid is that? It goes against the whole concept of a sensible
> default.

It isn't a default, the Gnome3 GUI will not work without hardware
acceleration. In the beginning, after an upgrade, there was a fallback
to a sort of Gnome2 display, but minus all the panels, icons etc. that
had been there before the upgrade. The long-term fallback is Xfce and
other lightweights.

> 
> BTW, along the same lines, I'd expect the default *not* to suspend on
> lid-close simply because some models have "quirks" when coming out of
> suspend. It should be configurable by the admin whether he¹ wants it
> that way.

Suspending or shutting down should never be a default. What if the new
program's default was to suspend or shut down after a couple of hours
without keyboard or mouse movement? Certainly a sensible enough default
for a desktop, but hardly optimal for a server. If a new program isn't
going to honour previous configurations, it *must* fail safe.

-- 
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Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 08:03, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem,
> have failed me this time.
> 
> I'm running up-to-date wheezy.

DE?

> 
> How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I
> have that right)?
> 
> I have an NTFS filesystem on a USB-connected hard drive. With nothing in
> fstab, it gets auto-mounted as /media/WinBackup:
> 
> syslog:
> 
> Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Version 2012.1.15AR.5 external
> FUSE 29
> Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mounted /dev/sdg2 (Read-Write,
> label "WinBackup", NTFS 3.1)
> Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Cmdline options:
> rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177
> Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mount options:
> rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sdg2,blkdev,blksize=4096
> 
> Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Global ownership and permissions
> enforced, configuration type 7
> 
> According to the fuse man page, /etc/fuse.conf only supports mount_max
> and user_allow_other.
> 
> I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab (which
> somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have it auto mount
> whenever I plug it in.


Without knowing more about your "Wheezy" the easiest option is probably
to create a custom udev rule.

> 
> LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs
> rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask=
> 0 0

What does "allow_other" do?
Why "umask=" (instead of 0022)?
Why not "uid=$username,gid=users"

Do you want to retain and use standard Windows permissions?
How many people will need access to the disk?

> 
> Rick
> 
> 


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Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:44:19AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
> Or, perhaps a general rule for default settings - "safest/do no harm"?
> [just a wild guess]

Wouldn't it make more sense having the default meaning: guarranteed to
work on the majority of systems/setups enabling the admin to later
change the defaults to better suit their own particular needs.

I remember when (still is?) the default mutt configuration was having no
colors defined so that at least it was still usable on displays without
colour. Now *that's* clever thinking!

Now, (I hope I'm not wrong on this.) It seems that the default GNOME
installation required a graphics card with hardware acceleration. How
stupid is that? It goes against the whole concept of a sensible default.

BTW, along the same lines, I'd expect the default *not* to suspend on
lid-close simply because some models have "quirks" when coming out of
suspend. It should be configurable by the admin whether he¹ wants it that
way.


¹ Yeah yeah or she.

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Re: iceweasel and dolphin

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/11/14 04:45, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote:
> Scott, you made my day! Your email helped me to solve the issue. 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> dolphin was set as my default file browser: 2# xdg-mime query default
> inode/directory dolphin.desktop
> 
> I followed your next advice to disable nautilus in 
> /usr/share/dbus-1/services mv org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service 
> org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service.bak
> 
> After doing that iceweasel used nemo ;-) But not dolphin.
> 
> Therefore I edited /usr/share/applications/defaults.list. It listed a
> whole bunch of apps in inode/directory incl. nemo I removed them all
> except for inode/directory=kde4-dolphin.desktop
> 
> And that was it! iceweasel now uses dolphin to open folders.
> 
> Thanks a lot Matthias

No worries - noticed I'd made a couple of errors, which I'll correct
below, and when I get some time put information up on the Debian Wiki in
case it's of interest to anyone else. FWIW after 12 years of inactivity
there has been recent murmurs on Mozilla of addressing KDE support (I'd
just prefer porting Firefox/Thunderbird to QT - and flying cars).

> 
> PS As soon as I enable "org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service" again,
>  iceweasel switches back to nautilus. Looks like this is leading the
>  mime type assignments.

Yes.

> I would prefer default.list to lead that.

I'm not sure how you'd do that or whether it's possible

Note - my "method" of removing the dbus service file is a cludge and
probably won't survive upgrades, but it breaks nothing in KDE and is
trivial to maintain.

It 'might' be "better" to put a copy of those services files from
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/ into ~/.dbus-1/services and add some sort of
user over-ride into /etc/dbus-1/system.d  - *but* I am just guessing.

I really am, happily, totally clueless when it comes to GNOME (not
opposed to it, just limited in time trying to cover KDE and Fluxbox DE)

> Is that just an iceweasel/firefox thing or intentional for the whole
>  system?

The whole system AFAIK - it's very likely possible to apply more
fine-grained control, I just haven't explored it.


>> 
>> *1.* Check that Nautilus isn't set in default apps:- as the usual 
>> user:- grep -i nautilus /usr/share/applications/defaults.list if 
>> you get a result, as "root":- cp cat 
>> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list{,.bak}

CORRECTION

*Should be*
cp /usr/share/applications/defaults.list{,.bak}



>> 
>> *Further integration of KDE4 and Iceweasel*
>> 


CORRECTION

The following will *only* work with KDE3 (not in Wheezy or later) as
kprint doesn't exist in KDE4. (apologies for not having updated my
Iceweasel references to Wheezy, and failing to notice it doesn't have
the intended effect")
*However* if 'may' work with kprint4 which is available in Jessie and
later. kprint4 dependencies it likely won't install in Wheezy, and I
haven't tried to backport it yet.

>> 
>> *To change the print dialog to KDE's kprinter* *1.* Repeat the 
>> above process for File Picker, except search for:- 
>> print.print_command and change the String value from:- lpr 
>> ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME"} to:- kprint
>> 
>> 



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Re: replacing boot and only disk drive

[Pascal Hambourg]

Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> 
> The laptop now uses MBR partitions.  Since the new drive is only 2T, I 
> don't expect to need GPT.  Thanks for the details, though I won't need to 
> worry about these until my *next* hard disk enlargement.  And ... will 
> Windows XP know what to do with GPT?

Windows XP 32 bits cannot boot from GPT nor UEFI. It's not clear to me
yet whether Windows XP 64 can or not.


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How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?

[Rick Macdonald]

Well, many hours of googling, and running grep on my entire filesystem, 
have failed me this time.


I'm running up-to-date wheezy.

How does one override or change to options fuse gives to ntfs-3g (if I 
have that right)?


I have an NTFS filesystem on a USB-connected hard drive. With nothing in 
fstab, it gets auto-mounted as /media/WinBackup:


syslog:

Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Version 2012.1.15AR.5 external 
FUSE 29
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mounted /dev/sdg2 (Read-Write, 
label "WinBackup", NTFS 3.1)
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Cmdline options: 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177
Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Mount options: 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,fsname=/dev/sdg2,blkdev,blksize=4096 

Nov 25 12:56:17 timshel ntfs-3g[16915]: Global ownership and permissions 
enforced, configuration type 7


According to the fuse man page, /etc/fuse.conf only supports mount_max 
and user_allow_other.


I can mount it manually by adding the following entry to fstab (which 
somehow inhibits the automount), but I'd much rather have it auto mount 
whenever I plug it in.


LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs 
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,default_permissions,blkdev,umask= 
0 0


Rick


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Re: Fetchmail (long); continually losing authentication with gmx.net

[Ron Leach]

On 24/11/2014 21:02, Frédéric Marchal wrote:


The best thing to do when debugging that kind of problem is to have a look at
the content of /etc/init.d/fetchmail, find the actual fetchmail command started
by the script and run the command manually from the shell.

Don't forget to remove the option to run fetchmail as a daemon (I don't
remember its name but it's in the man page). You can add any option you need
such as -vv and see the output in the terminal.



Did the trick.  Logs show that fetchmail is
1. using opportunistic TLS on pop3, but
2. Sometimes times out after receiving a certificate, and then
3. Fetchmail declines to use TLS with the *next* user, but
4. gmx complains about not using ssl, and fails the authorisation.

That repeats at each poll.  I wonder what might be causing the 
timeout?  But shouldn't fetchmail tolerate communication hiccups, 
anyway?  (Rhetorical Qs.)


I'll post the log showing the fail event(s) in case it helps, but I 
think I'd like to run either the latest fetchmail (from sourceforge), 
or the version from Debian Etch (which doesn't fail).


Here's a failing fetchmail log (anonymised).  Fetchmail tries to 
collect mail for 2 users, user1 and user2.  TLS fails during user1, 
and fetchmail then doesn't try TLS for user2 (and doesn't try TLS ever 
again for user2, though not shown here), but gmx complains every time 
about not using SSL.


fetchmail: awakened at Tue 25 Nov 2014 18:33:40 GMT
fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 
2014 18:33:40 GMT: poll started

fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
fetchmail: POP3< TOP
fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< STLS
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< SASL PLAIN
fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION trinity
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> STLS
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Begin TLS negotiation
fetchmail: Certificate chain, from root to peer, starting at depth 2:
fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: Deutsche Telekom AG
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
fetchmail: Subject CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
fetchmail: Certificate at depth 1:
fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: Deutsche Telekom AG
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Deutsche Telekom Root CA 2
fetchmail: Subject CommonName: TeleSec ServerPass DE-1
fetchmail: Server certificate:
fetchmail: Issuer Organisation: T-Systems International GmbH
fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: TeleSec ServerPass DE-1
fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
fetchmail: Subject Alternative Name: pop.gmx.net
fetchmail: Subject Alternative Name: pop.gmx.de
fetchmail: pop.gmx.net key fingerprint: 
8A:B7:78:CF:0D:73:4E:EE:FF:EB:B8:C0:90:7D:46:56

fetchmail: timeout after 100 seconds.
fetchmail: socket error while fetching from [user1]@gmx@pop.gmx.net
fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 
2014 18:35:37 GMT: poll completed

fetchmail: Merged UID list from pop.gmx.net: 0[…]= SEEN
fetchmail: Query status=2 (SOCKET)
fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 
2014 18:35:37 GMT: poll started

fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
fetchmail: POP3> CAPA
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Capability list follows
fetchmail: POP3< TOP
fetchmail: POP3< UIDL
fetchmail: POP3< STLS
fetchmail: POP3< USER
fetchmail: POP3< SASL PLAIN
fetchmail: POP3< IMPLEMENTATION trinity
fetchmail: POP3< .
fetchmail: POP3> STLS
fetchmail: POP3< +OK Begin TLS negotiation
fetchmail: pop.gmx.net: opportunistic upgrade to TLS failed, trying to 
continue.

fetchmail: POP3> USER [user2]@gmx.net
fetchmail: Repoll immediately on [user2]@gmx@pop.gmx.net
fetchmail: Trying to connect to 212.227.17.169/110...connected.
fetchmail: POP3< +OK POP server ready H migmx123 0[…]
fetchmail: POP3> USER [user2]@gmx.net
fetchmail: POP3< +OK password required for user "[user2]@gmx.net"
fetchmail: POP3> PASS *
fetchmail: POP3< -ERR Fehler beim Abruf Ihrer GMX E-Mails. Ihre 
Verbindung ist nicht verschluesselt. Aktivieren Sie SSL in Ihrem 
Mailprogramm. Anleitungen: https://ssl.gmx.net
fetchmail: Fehler beim Abruf Ihrer GMX E-Mails. Ihre Verbindung ist 
nicht verschluesselt. Aktivieren Sie SSL in Ihrem Mailprogramm. 
Anleitungen: https://ssl.gmx.net


Translation: Error retrieving your GMX email. Your connection is not 
encrypted. Enable SSL in your mail program. Instructions: 
https://ssl.gmx.net


fetchmail: Authorisation failure on [user2]@gmx@pop.gmx.net 
(previously authorised)

fetchmail: POP3> QUIT
fetchmail: 6.3.21 querying pop.gmx.net (protocol POP3) at Tue 25 Nov 
2014 18:36:42 GMT: poll completed

fetchmail: Merged UID list from pop.gmx.net: 0[…]= SEEN
fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL)
fetchmail: Writing fetchids file.
fetchmail: sleeping at Tue 25 Nov 2014 18:36:42 GMT for 150 seconds

I've also saved a log showing the preced

Re: Purging a package...............

[Charlie]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:33:22 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent:

> On Ma, 25 nov 14, 14:25:13, Charlie wrote:
> > 
> > Thank you for that information, it was most helpful.
> > 
> > I decided to add:
> > 
> >  
> >SuggestsImportant
> >{
> >  "false"
> >};
> >  };
> > 
> > To the existing etc/aptapt.conf.d/01autoremove file.
> 
> This may or may not be what you want, but changing that file is a 
> conffile of the package 'apt', so you will now be getting a prompt 
> whenever the maintainers make changes to it, whether related or not.
> 
> If you don't want that you should probably revert to the package 
> maintainer's file and put your customizations in your own snippet
> under apt.conf.d.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

Thank you both Andrei and Scott.

I have now added into the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/91autoremove with the
line:  APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false";

And returned the other back to the original text.

Thanks again for expanding on what would happen.

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Re: Fwd: Gnome/X/Display device issues since before Testing freeze

[Floris]

Op Tue, 25 Nov 2014 02:09:10 +0100 schreef Peter Miller  
:



I've had the "Oh no! Something went wrong" screen for a couple of
weeks now, since just before Testing went into freeze.

I've looked everywhere I can and tried all sorts of things, but
nothing solves the problem. I recently upgraded to sid to see if that
helped, but still no luck.

In the included journal file below, it seems the problem lies in the
"cannot determine display-device" entry, but I can't tell what is
causing that.

I have a lot more diagnostic output, but I can't have attachments,  
apparently.


I would file a bug report, but I am not sure which package to report  
under.


One thing I have not been able to work out if is whether the memory
conflict message is an issue, and, if it is, how to solve it...

Thanks for any assistance...




Can you tell us what kind of VGA card, and which module you use?
And the output of:
journalctl -e /usr/bin/Xorg
(after a crash)

Success,

floris


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Re: find problem

[Roland Mueller]

Hello,

2014-11-12 12:40 GMT+02:00 Raffaele Morelli :

> On 11/11/14 at 04:09pm, B. M. wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm struggling with a find problem.
> >
> > I want to combine find and par2create recursively in order to get the
> > following done:
> >
> > Foreach file with a certain suffix (e.g. avi) do par2create for that
> > file in its directory, so e.g.
> >
> > I'm in /video
> > There are subfolders user1, user2 with videos video1.avi, video2.avi ...
> > in them.
> >
> > The script should do something equivalent to:
> > cd /video/user1
> > par2create .video1.avi video1.avi
> > par2create .video2.avi video2.avi
> > cd /video/user2
> > par2create .video3.avi video3.avi
> > par2create .video4.avi video4.avi
> > cd 
> >
> > But I want to achieve this using the find command.
> >
>

One solution should be to use find together with a read loop. Inside the
look get needed directory and base file names, and in a subshell jump into
the directory and execute the command (in following only using pwd and echo
for testing purposes).

Another alternative could use pushd/popd commands ...

$



*find . -type f -name "*.avi" | \   while read avi   do
avi_fn=$(basename $avi); avi_dir=$(dirname $avi);   ( cd $avi_dir
&& pwd && echo par2create .${avi_fn}  $avi_fn );done*
/tmp/test/e/f
par2create .fifth.avi fifth.avi
/tmp/test/a/b
par2create .first.avi first.avi
/tmp/test/a/b
par2create .second.avi second.avi
/tmp/test/b
par2create .sixth.avi sixth.avi
/tmp/test/d
par2create .third.avi third.avi

Here is the contents of the test dir:
$ find . -type f
./e/f/fifth.avi
./a/b/first.avi
./a/b/second.avi
./b/sixth.avi
./d/third.avi

BR,
Roland



> > So I'd expect something like
> > find * -name "*.avi" -execdir par2create .'{}' '{} \;
> > but this doesn't work as expected - it creates the .*.avi files "one
> > folder above".
> >
> > How does it work using the find command?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
>
> I did a test with cp:
> find config/ -name custom.php -execdir cp '{}' '{}'.pippo \;
> files are copied with added suffix.
>
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Re: iceweasel and dolphin

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Scott, you made my day! Your email helped me to solve the issue. Thanks a lot.

dolphin was set as my default file browser:
2# xdg-mime query default inode/directory
dolphin.desktop

I followed your next advice to disable nautilus in /usr/share/dbus-1/services
mv org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service 
org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service.bak

After doing that iceweasel used nemo ;-) But not dolphin.

Therefore I edited /usr/share/applications/defaults.list. It listed a whole 
bunch of apps in inode/directory incl. nemo
I removed them all except for
inode/directory=kde4-dolphin.desktop

And that was it! iceweasel now uses dolphin to open folders.

Thanks a lot
Matthias

PS
As soon as I enable "org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service" again, iceweasel 
switches back to nautilus. Looks like this is leading the mime type 
assignments. I would prefer default.list to lead that. Is that just an 
iceweasel/firefox thing or intentional for the whole system?



Am 25.11.2014 um 09:28 schrieb Scott Ferguson:
> On 25/11/14 17:17, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am getting crazy with iceweasel not opening dolphin for "containing
>> folders". 
> 
> Hi, I run Debian Wheezy, with some backports, Iceweasel 33.1, KDE4[*1]
> and *no* GNOME on this workstation.
> 
> [*1] kdebase-bin 4:4.8.4-2 (heavily customised KDE installation)
> 
> 
> To see the current file browser system association (as your usual user):-
> xdg-mime query default inode/directory
> 
> *1.* to make dolphin the default file browser (as your usual user):-
> xdg-mime default dolphin.desktop inode/directory
> 
> ***
> Note: that relies on you having a "dolphin.desktop" config file - your
> installation of GNOME, and my not, makes that problematic. If you have
> "locate" installed *and* 'you' are a member of "mlocate" you can check
> for it's existence with "mlocate":-
> mlocate dolphin.desktop
> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/dolphin.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop
> 
> *If* you don't get those results you can create them, by downloading
> them from the attachments to this email, and saving them to the correct
> locations (you'll need to change the filenames I've used to indicate
> their future locations, to dolphin.desktop, and mv them from where you
> download them as "root").
> ***
> 
> *2.* You 'may' need to disable Nautilus as the default file browser - in
> which case (check for it's existence first with "ls"), as "root":-
> mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service{,.bak}
> 
> Note that's one line of code.
> 
> *Further considerations for GNOME possible problems*
> Please note, again, I don't have/use GNOME so I'm forced to guess and
> try and cover all possibilities I can think of (no guarantee that's
> actually *all* - the standard Debian promise applies - "if it breaks you
> get to keep both pieces")
> 
> *1.* Check that Nautilus isn't set in default apps:-
> as the usual user:-
> grep -i nautilus /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
> if you get a result, as "root":-
> cp cat /usr/share/applications/defaults.list{,.bak}
> then edit it as "root" and remove the Nautilus line:-
> nano /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
> 
> *2.* Repeat step *1.* above with:-
> ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
> ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
> 
> 
> 
> *Further integration of KDE4 and Iceweasel*
> 
> *To add KDE's KPart capabilities*
> As root:-
> apt-get -s install kpartsplugin | less
> if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
> apt-get install kpartsplugin
> Go to System Settings on the KMenu -> Network and Connectivity ->
> KPartsPlugin
> Configure to suit your needs
> 
> *To add QT-style-like ability to Iceweasel* (it's a GTK app)
> As root:-
> *1.* apt-get -s install gtk2-engines-oxygen | less
> if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
> apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen
> 
> *2.* apt-get -s install kde-config-gtk-style | less
> if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
> apt-get install kde-config-gtk-style
> org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service.bak
> *3.* Go to System Settings on the KMenu -> Common Appearance and
> Behaviour -> Gtk Configuration
> Configure to suit your needs
> 
> *4.* Install a KDE-like theme in Iceweasel (from the Iceweasel Addons
> page -> Appearance). I like Nuvola, there are Crystal (Cute Buttons) and
> Oxygen-like Themes available
> 
> *To change the File Picker*
> Go to "about:config" in Iceweasel
> Search for "ui.allow_platform_file_picker"
> Change the default Boolean value to "false"
> 
> *To change the print dialog to KDE's kprinter*
> *1.* Repeat the above process for File Picker, except search for:-
> print.print_command
> and change the String value from:-
> lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER

Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. 
Is there an alternative of a free dsn server?


Hugo




Thanks everybody. I switched to noip. Like Scott said, it works with 
ddclient.


Hugo.


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Re: Purging a package............... (best practise for SuggestsImportant)

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/11/14 21:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 25 nov 14, 14:25:13, Charlie wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for that information, it was most helpful.
>>
>> I decided to add:
>>
>>  
>>SuggestsImportant
>>{
>>  "false"
>>};
>>  };
>>
>> To the existing etc/aptapt.conf.d/01autoremove file.
> 
> This may or may not be what you want, but changing that file is a 
> conffile of the package 'apt', so you will now be getting a prompt 
> whenever the maintainers make changes to it, whether related or not.

Good point!
My fault Charlie, using 'could' in that example was bad and I should
have thought of the possible results - it'd have been safest if I'd just
given the fragments and /etc/apt/apt.conf example doc link to explain
the index format for more complex apt config changes.

I'd recommend reverting to the original /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove
and creating a new fragment e.g.:-
91suggestsimport with the content line that Andrei originally suggested.


> 
> If you don't want that you should probably revert to the package 
> maintainer's file and put your customizations in your own snippet under 
> apt.conf.d.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 

Thanks Andrei.


Kind regards


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Re: Fwd: Gnome/X/Display device issues since before Testing freeze

[Stephen Allen]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:09:10PM +1100, Peter Miller wrote:
> I've had the "Oh no! Something went wrong" screen for a couple of
> weeks now, since just before Testing went into freeze.
> 
> I've looked everywhere I can and tried all sorts of things, but
> nothing solves the problem. I recently upgraded to sid to see if that
> helped, but still no luck.
> 
> In the included journal file below, it seems the problem lies in the
> "cannot determine display-device" entry, but I can't tell what is
> causing that.
> 
> I have a lot more diagnostic output, but I can't have attachments, apparently.
> 
> I would file a bug report, but I am not sure which package to report under.
> 
> One thing I have not been able to work out if is whether the memory
> conflict message is an issue, and, if it is, how to solve it...
> 
> Thanks for any assistance...

Had that as well, filed a bug several weeks ago. You might want to add your +1 
as a comment to my bug report Bug#767083. Not absolutely sure that it's because 
of Google-Chrome, but I was using it each time received the "Oh No" from 
Gnome-Shell.
> 


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Re: Purging a package...............

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 25 nov 14, 14:25:13, Charlie wrote:
> 
> Thank you for that information, it was most helpful.
> 
> I decided to add:
> 
>  
>SuggestsImportant
>{
>  "false"
>};
>  };
> 
> To the existing etc/aptapt.conf.d/01autoremove file.

This may or may not be what you want, but changing that file is a 
conffile of the package 'apt', so you will now be getting a prompt 
whenever the maintainers make changes to it, whether related or not.

If you don't want that you should probably revert to the package 
maintainer's file and put your customizations in your own snippet under 
apt.conf.d.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: iceweasel and dolphin

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/11/14 17:17, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am getting crazy with iceweasel not opening dolphin for "containing
> folders". 

Hi, I run Debian Wheezy, with some backports, Iceweasel 33.1, KDE4[*1]
and *no* GNOME on this workstation.

[*1] kdebase-bin 4:4.8.4-2 (heavily customised KDE installation)


To see the current file browser system association (as your usual user):-
xdg-mime query default inode/directory

*1.* to make dolphin the default file browser (as your usual user):-
xdg-mime default dolphin.desktop inode/directory

***
Note: that relies on you having a "dolphin.desktop" config file - your
installation of GNOME, and my not, makes that problematic. If you have
"locate" installed *and* 'you' are a member of "mlocate" you can check
for it's existence with "mlocate":-
mlocate dolphin.desktop
/usr/share/app-install/desktop/dolphin.desktop
/usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop

*If* you don't get those results you can create them, by downloading
them from the attachments to this email, and saving them to the correct
locations (you'll need to change the filenames I've used to indicate
their future locations, to dolphin.desktop, and mv them from where you
download them as "root").
***

*2.* You 'may' need to disable Nautilus as the default file browser - in
which case (check for it's existence first with "ls"), as "root":-
mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.FileManager1.service{,.bak}

Note that's one line of code.

*Further considerations for GNOME possible problems*
Please note, again, I don't have/use GNOME so I'm forced to guess and
try and cover all possibilities I can think of (no guarantee that's
actually *all* - the standard Debian promise applies - "if it breaks you
get to keep both pieces")

*1.* Check that Nautilus isn't set in default apps:-
as the usual user:-
grep -i nautilus /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
if you get a result, as "root":-
cp cat /usr/share/applications/defaults.list{,.bak}
then edit it as "root" and remove the Nautilus line:-
nano /usr/share/applications/defaults.list

*2.* Repeat step *1.* above with:-
~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list



*Further integration of KDE4 and Iceweasel*

*To add KDE's KPart capabilities*
As root:-
apt-get -s install kpartsplugin | less
if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
apt-get install kpartsplugin
Go to System Settings on the KMenu -> Network and Connectivity ->
KPartsPlugin
Configure to suit your needs

*To add QT-style-like ability to Iceweasel* (it's a GTK app)
As root:-
*1.* apt-get -s install gtk2-engines-oxygen | less
if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen

*2.* apt-get -s install kde-config-gtk-style | less
if you're happy with what will be installed, proceed with the installation:-
apt-get install kde-config-gtk-style

*3.* Go to System Settings on the KMenu -> Common Appearance and
Behaviour -> Gtk Configuration
Configure to suit your needs

*4.* Install a KDE-like theme in Iceweasel (from the Iceweasel Addons
page -> Appearance). I like Nuvola, there are Crystal (Cute Buttons) and
Oxygen-like Themes available

*To change the File Picker*
Go to "about:config" in Iceweasel
Search for "ui.allow_platform_file_picker"
Change the default Boolean value to "false"

*To change the print dialog to KDE's kprinter*
*1.* Repeat the above process for File Picker, except search for:-
print.print_command
and change the String value from:-
lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+-P"$MOZ_PRINTER_NAME"}
to:-
kprint


I hope that helps


Useful refs:-
man xdg-mime'


Kind regards


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