Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
maderios a écrit : je ne peux pas du tout me connecter au réseau ni même pinguer mon modem-routeur. Mais encore ? Que se passe-t-il quand tu essaies ? Adresse IP, masque, route par défaut et DNS sont bien configurés ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a3ff22.2030...@plouf.fr.eu.org
[1/2 HS] Le logiciel opensource en phase ascendante
Très bonne nouvelle pour le dernier jour de l'année, laissant de magnifiques perspectives pour 2015 : Trois décideurs informatiques sur quatre s'accordent * sur l'intégrité et la crédibilité des logiciels opensource * www.infodsi.com/articles/153117/trois-decideurs-informatiques-quatre-accordent-integrite-credibilite-logiciels-open-source.html?key=6433cdc950c99165 Joyeuse Fête de fin d'année à Tous. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412311508.21645.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
On 12/31/2014 02:50 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: maderios a écrit : je ne peux pas du tout me connecter au réseau ni même pinguer mon modem-routeur. Mais encore ? Que se passe-t-il quand tu essaies ? Adresse IP, masque, route par défaut et DNS sont bien configurés ? Les conf sont OK : interfaces et wpa_supplicant.conf Un dmesg donne 'eth0 link becomes ready' (eth0 est l'interface wifi, eth1 est l'ethernet) -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a40b16.2050...@gmail.com
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
maderios a écrit : On 12/31/2014 02:50 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: maderios a écrit : je ne peux pas du tout me connecter au réseau ni même pinguer mon modem-routeur. Mais encore ? Que se passe-t-il quand tu essaies ? Tu n'as pas répondu à cette question. Adresse IP, masque, route par défaut et DNS sont bien configurés ? Les conf sont OK : interfaces et wpa_supplicant.conf Un dmesg donne 'eth0 link becomes ready' Je ne parle pas de la liaison mais des paramètres IP. (eth0 est l'interface wifi, eth1 est l'ethernet) L'interface ethernet eth1 est activée et configurée aussi ? Si oui, connectée à quoi ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a413ea.90...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
On 12/31/2014 04:19 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: maderios a écrit : On 12/31/2014 02:50 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: maderios a écrit : je ne peux pas du tout me connecter au réseau ni même pinguer mon modem-routeur. Mais encore ? Que se passe-t-il quand tu essaies ? Tu n'as pas répondu à cette question. ping 192.168.1.1 From 192.168.1.47 Destination host unreachable apt-get update Err http :ftp.fr.debian.org Could not resolve 'ftp.fr.debian.org W: Failed to fetch Adresse IP, masque, route par défaut et DNS sont bien configurés ? Les conf sont OK : interfaces et wpa_supplicant.conf Un dmesg donne 'eth0 link becomes ready' Je ne parle pas de la liaison mais des paramètres IP. Les paramètres IP sont corrects et fonctionnent avec ethernet #/etc/network/interfaces iface lo inet loopback ### END OF DEBCONF AREA. PLACE YOUR EDITS BELOW; THEY WILL BE PRESERVED. #carte wifi auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.47 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 mtu 1492 #/etc/resolv.conf nameserver 192.168.1.1 j'ai également essayé les DNS du fai avec lesquels ça marche en ethernet. Ne marche pas en wifi nameserver 80.10.246.2 nameserver 80.10.246.129 #/etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 192.168.1.47nomdelamachine ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters (eth0 est l'interface wifi, eth1 est l'ethernet) L'interface ethernet eth1 est activée et configurée aussi ? Si oui, connectée à quoi ? ethernet eth1 n'est ni activé ni connecté ifdown eth1 'interface eth1 not configured' Autre info importante dmesg | grep ipw2200 tout est normal sauf la dernière ligne 'ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarted' -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a4364b.9070...@gmail.com
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
On Wednesday 31 December 2014 15:41:26 maderios wrote: Les conf sont OK : interfaces et wpa_supplicant.conf Un dmesg donne 'eth0 link becomes ready' (eth0 est l'interface wifi, eth1 est l'ethernet) Peut-être est-ce sans aucune importance, mais on utilise wlan0 pour l'interface Wifi. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412311855.09426.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : On Wednesday 31 December 2014 15:41:26 maderios wrote: Les conf sont OK : interfaces et wpa_supplicant.conf Un dmesg donne 'eth0 link becomes ready' (eth0 est l'interface wifi, eth1 est l'ethernet) Peut-être est-ce sans aucune importance, mais on utilise wlan0 pour l'interface Wifi. Pas toujours. Le pilote ipw2200 a ceci d'ennuyeux qu'il nomme ses interfaces wifi eth*. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a44468.90...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: problème configuration wifi _Jessie
maderios a écrit : ping 192.168.1.1 From 192.168.1.47 Destination host unreachable Echec de la résolution ARP. Tu as essayé de faire une capture de trafic pour voir ce qui est émis et reçu ? dmesg | grep ipw2200 tout est normal sauf la dernière ligne 'ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarted' J'en ai aussi de temps en temps, ça n'a pas l'air de gêner. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a44e0c.2090...@plouf.fr.eu.org
changement adresse
Bonsoir et bonne année Veuillez noter ma nouvelle adresse mail : pascalgo...@orange.fr remplaçant la précédente Cordialement, Pascal Gosse -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a46301.5050...@wanadoo.fr
jessie modifier fichier log
bonjour et bonne année a tous, j'ai deux problème simples que je n'arrive pas a résoudre avec ma debian jessie. le premier problème concerne le logiciel dante-server. je lui es bien spécifié un output de log mais il écrit dans son fichier et aussi dans le fichier daemon.log donc j'ai des logs en double ce qui es plutot gennant. concernant mon second soucis. j'aimerai déplacer les log de dhclient dans un fichier dhclient.log. j'ai bien utilisé des solutions trouver sur internet comme : :msg, contains, dhclient: -/var/log/dhclient.log dans le rsyslog.conf mais ça ne fonctionne pas merci d'avance jerem. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a4f6e4@prego-network.net
Re: Subredes, proxy y otras yerbas
Hola William, No, no lo he usado. Es mas no me suena haberlo usado nunca el NAT conjugado con FORWARD... Aqui posteo lo que me tira un netstat -nr Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.216 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.30.0192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 Donde 192.168.0.216 es el gateway de la subred 0 y 192.168.0.1 es lo mismo para la subred 30 Aqui les muestro un IPTABLES -L target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- localhostanywhere ACCEPT tcp -- 192.168.0.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:3128 ACCEPT tcp -- 192.168.30.0/24 anywhere tcp dpt:3128 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:webmin ACCEPT tcp -- fmiculan.friggorina.local anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-ssn ACCEPT tcp -- fmiculan.friggorina.local anywhere tcp dpt:microsoft-ds ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:10200 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:5901 ACCEPT udp -- fglp05.friggorina.local anywhere udp dpt:snmp ACCEPT udp -- fglp05.friggorina.local anywhere udp dpt:snmp-trap ACCEPT udp -- fglp10.friggorina.local anywhere udp dpt:snmp ACCEPT udp -- fglp10.friggorina.local anywhere udp dpt:snmp-trap ACCEPT all -- anywhere anywhere state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT icmp -- fglp05.friggorina.local anywhere ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:domain ACCEPT udp -- anywhere anywhere udp dpt:domain Chain FORWARD (policy DROP) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT icmp -- anywhere anywhere ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt: ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt: ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:2221 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:2221 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:25000 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:25000 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:5938 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:5938 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:31193 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:31193 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:1935 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:1935 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:smtp ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:pop3 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:https ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-ssn ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:netbios-ssn ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-dgm ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:netbios-dgm ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:netbios-ns ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:netbios-ns ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:microsoft-ds ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:microsoft-ds ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:http MAC 00:21:97:D4:9A:92 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:http MAC 00:21:97:D4:9A:92 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:https MAC 00:21:97:D4:9A:92 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:https MAC 00:21:97:D4:9A:92 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:1723 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:1723 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:47 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp spt:47 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:3001 ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp
Re: Subredes, proxy y otras yerbas
El Tue, 30 Dec 2014 17:23:22 -0300, Fernando Miculan escribió: Hola, como están?. Me presento, me llamo Fernando, vivo en La Plata, Argentina y hace unos cuantos años que utilizo Linux, en especial Debian y Ubuntu. Buenas, acuérdate de desactivar el formato html al enviar los correos a la lista ;-) Se me presento un caso en mi trabajo. Tenemos un squid linkeado a un active directory de Win(fucker) 2008 en la red 192.168.0.0, ademas de haber implementado un firewall con iptables. Todo realizado en un Debian 7. Hasta ahí no hay inconvenientes, los usuarios navegan perfectamente según los grupos asignados en el active directory. El problema se presento justamente hoy, al querer ampliar la red a otra subred (192.168.30.0, que dicho sea de paso se implemento en forma de vlan en un router mikrotik.) La cuestión es, que después de haber agregado la ruta en una de las interfaces del debian para que vea la subred 30, estos navegan perfectamente en internet, pero no la subred 0, todo lo que sea web no funciona, salvo el correo electrónico y el skype. Es decir, en la subred 0 funciona todo lo que no pasa por el proxy. Que es lo que puede estar pasando? Ni idea.. pero lo mejor es que desandes (mentalmente) los pasos que has dado al añadir la nueva subred que es cuando ha empezado a fallar la subred antigua. Con netstat -nr se ven las rutas asignadas perfectamente, MAnda la salida del comando. por ese lado no veo el problema... me estará faltando algún tipo de regla adicional en el firewall ?? En principio el proxy y la vlan no deberían chocar porque son conceptos completamente diferentes. Yo me centraría en el enrutado y las reglas del cortafuegos. Si les sirve les puedo postear el script del firewall. La política por defecto es DROP y luego permito algunos puertos y mac address para que bypaseen el proxy. Sí, mejor si subes a www.pastebin.com las reglas que tienes en iptables. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.31.14.28...@gmail.com
[OT] Debian Lines theme para SLiM
Hice un thema para SLiM, un Desktop Manager muy liviano, me he basado en el thema Lines para Debian 8. Tenía días de querer subirlo a algún lado, así que no quería irme sin cerrar el año sin hacerlo. Lo subí a GitHub... de momento no he podido tomarle un screenshot =$. Pero lo pueden bajar de acá: https://github.com/EstebanMonge/slim-themes Saludos -- Esteban Monge Marín http://www.emonge.com e...@emonge.com mongejimene...@gmail.com estebanmo...@riseup.net Linux User: 478378 - Isaca COBIT - Cabinet Office ITIL Foundation - CompTIA A+ - Nagios Enterprises Certified Professional -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d9c4c173e9d756072c45f0f7ae4a0...@riseup.net
Re: Subredes, proxy y otras yerbas
No hagas top posting porque se vuelve difícil seguir el tema... No abras otro hilo para el mismo tema... pego acá El día 30 de diciembre de 2014, 21:24, Santiago Liz lizsa...@gmail.com escribió: El día 30 de diciembre de 2014, 17:23, Fernando Miculan fernandocmicu...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, como están?. Me presento, me llamo Fernando, vivo en La Plata, Argentina y hace unos cuantos años que utilizo Linux, en especial Debian y Ubuntu. Se me presento un caso en mi trabajo. Tenemos un squid linkeado a un active directory de Win(fucker) 2008 en la red 192.168.0.0, ademas de haber implementado un firewall con iptables. Todo realizado en un Debian 7. Hasta ahí no hay inconvenientes, los usuarios navegan perfectamente según los grupos asignados en el active directory. El problema se presento justamente hoy, al querer ampliar la red a otra subred (192.168.30.0, que dicho sea de paso se implemento en forma de vlan en un router mikrotik.) La cuestión es, que después de haber agregado la ruta en una de las interfaces del debian para que vea la subred 30, estos navegan perfectamente en internet, pero no la subred 0, todo lo que sea web no funciona, salvo el correo electrónico y el skype. Que es lo que puede estar pasando? Con netstat -nr se ven las rutas asignadas perfectamente, por ese lado no veo el problema... me estará faltando algún tipo de regla adicional en el firewall ?? Si les sirve les puedo postear el script del firewall. La política por defecto es DROP y luego permito algunos puertos y mac address para que bypaseen el proxy. Falta algo de info, pero adivinando diría que algún cambio afectó la configuración de squid donde se daba permiso a la red 192.168.0.0/(24?) para utilizar el mismo al habilitar la 192.168.30.0(/24?) o lo mismo en iptables donde se permite acceder a la IP:Puerto donde escucha squid. Al decir que anda el correo y skype descarto problemas de ruteo/nat. Cuando desis que no navegan, cual es el error? un error de squid diciendo que no tienen permiso o que no los clientes nos se pueden conectar al proxy? Los que no navegan son los equipos de la subred 0 que esquivan el proxy squid a través de una regla iptables por mac address. Si esos equipos los apunto al squid desde el navegador, funcionan bien. Lo extraño es que esa regla funciono de maravillas antes de hacer la subred 30. Aqui posteo lo que me tira un netstat -nr Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.216 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.30.0192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 Donde 192.168.0.216 es el gateway de la subred 0 y 192.168.0.1 es lo mismo para la subred 30 El equipo tiene dos interfaces (eth0 y eth1) con IPs dentro de la misma red 192.168.0.0/24 ? 192.168.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 192.168.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 La IP 192.168.0.216 es el default que te conecta a Internet y hace el NAT? Eth0 y eth1 están conectadas al mismo segmento de red? Donde están conectados los equipos que no tienen acceso físicamente, a la eth0 o eth1? Con esos datos parecería ser que hay un problema independiente de la red 192.168.30.0/24 y es que (salvo que estés omitiendo datos) estás intentando que el equipo forwardee paquetes entre dos interfaces de la misma red, lo cual no tiene mucho sentido. Si un equipo cualquiera de las red 192.168.0.0/24 tiene como default la IP 192.168.0.216 debería andar sin intervención del proxy/firewall. Deberías aclarar como está implementada la red. -- Fernando Miculan.- FCM Sistemas Tel. 15-5435862 / ID: 160*6915 ICQ: 6410724 / Skype: fcmsistemas http://ferchobbs.ddns.net BBS Telnet: ferchobbs.ddns.net:23 Saludos, Santiago.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAJ5eSfaC9sQcAXwhyA_�iRs_4GN5yq7R3TtxQcj_Ur+RU=d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Eclipse?
Hej Den 30 december 2014 22:34 skrev Peter Krefting pe...@softwolves.pp.se: j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Någon här som kör Eclipse? Till vad? Nöjd? Alternativ? Personligen har jag börjat använda Code::Blocks http://www.codeblocks.org/ (finns paketerat i Debian); det känns lite mer som Visual Studio för de som har erfarenhet av det. Jag har inte riktigt fått den integrerade debuggern att fungera ordentligt, men eftersom jag jobbar mycket mot inbyggda system har det inte varit topprioritet. Själv hatar jag Visual Studio, men man kan ju prova ändå. Men jag kunde inte hitta Code::Blocks i Debian. Vad heter paketet? /Anders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACXJ-BhFmcdN92F-aZd_h8MvFWmz4imO8ipiPpJV-6YVJK=O=g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Eclipse?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:16:44 +0100 Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com wrote: Hej Den 30 december 2014 22:34 skrev Peter Krefting pe...@softwolves.pp.se: j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Någon här som kör Eclipse? Till vad? Nöjd? Alternativ? Personligen har jag börjat använda Code::Blocks http://www.codeblocks.org/ (finns paketerat i Debian); det känns lite mer som Visual Studio för de som har erfarenhet av det. Jag har inte riktigt fått den integrerade debuggern att fungera ordentligt, men eftersom jag jobbar mycket mot inbyggda system har det inte varit topprioritet. Själv hatar jag Visual Studio, men man kan ju prova ändå. Men jag kunde inte hitta Code::Blocks i Debian. Vad heter paketet? /Anders Jag hatar också Visual Studio. Strängt taget hatar jag IDEer men jag vill ha ett bra grafiskt gränssnitt till debuggern. Det andra larvet med editor och projekthantering etc intresserar mig inte alls. Paketet heter codeblocks och är version 10.05-2.1 i 7.7. Senaste version verkar vara 13.12-1 på http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/26 /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141231105837.3e372417@igor
Re: Eclipse?
Hej Den 31 december 2014 10:58 skrev j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:16:44 +0100 Anders Jackson anders.jack...@gmail.com wrote: Hej Den 30 december 2014 22:34 skrev Peter Krefting pe...@softwolves.pp.se: j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Någon här som kör Eclipse? Till vad? Nöjd? Alternativ? Personligen har jag börjat använda Code::Blocks http://www.codeblocks.org/ (finns paketerat i Debian); det känns lite mer som Visual Studio för de som har erfarenhet av det. Jag har inte riktigt fått den integrerade debuggern att fungera ordentligt, men eftersom jag jobbar mycket mot inbyggda system har det inte varit topprioritet. Själv hatar jag Visual Studio, men man kan ju prova ändå. Men jag kunde inte hitta Code::Blocks i Debian. Vad heter paketet? /Anders Jag hatar också Visual Studio. Strängt taget hatar jag IDEer men jag vill ha ett bra grafiskt gränssnitt till debuggern. Det andra larvet med editor och projekthantering etc intresserar mig inte alls. Paketet heter codeblocks och är version 10.05-2.1 i 7.7. Senaste version verkar vara 13.12-1 på http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/26 Aha, jag trodde det fanns i Debians repository, men det finns det alltså inte. Ok. /Janne /Anders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACXJ-BiSPsH6CKAg6nzcghz0CUUr4ZBgozC7Eb-B5=ct7rg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Eclipse?
Jag hatar också Visual Studio. Strängt taget hatar jag IDEer men jag vill ha ett bra grafiskt gränssnitt till debuggern. Det andra larvet med editor och projekthantering etc intresserar mig inte alls. Paketet heter codeblocks och är version 10.05-2.1 i 7.7. Senaste version verkar vara 13.12-1 på http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/26 Aha, jag trodde det fanns i Debians repository, men det finns det alltså inte. Ok. /Janne /Anders Jodå, codeblocks 10.05-2.1 finns i 7.7. Jag har precis installerat. /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141231114832.71ef0d7f@igor
Re: Eclipse?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:48:32 +0100 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: Jag hatar också Visual Studio. Strängt taget hatar jag IDEer men jag vill ha ett bra grafiskt gränssnitt till debuggern. Det andra larvet med editor och projekthantering etc intresserar mig inte alls. Paketet heter codeblocks och är version 10.05-2.1 i 7.7. Senaste version verkar vara 13.12-1 på http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/26 Aha, jag trodde det fanns i Debians repository, men det finns det alltså inte. Ok. /Janne /Anders Jodå, codeblocks 10.05-2.1 finns i 7.7. Jag har precis installerat. /Janne Jag har kört ett första litet test, både Med Debian 7.7 och Mint 17. Upplevelsen är väl inte helt övertygande, och då är det bara Hello world som skapas när man gör ett nytt projekt. /Janne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141231150359.2bf1ad1e@igor
Re: Var köpa blanka/programmerbara smartkort?
Michael Kjörling wrote: Var kan jag köpa blanka smartkort? Leker med tanken på att använda smartkort för att lagra PGP-nycklar och liknande hemligheter. Jag har köpt enstaka openpgp-smartcard hos http://www.kernelconcepts.de/ tidigare. Just nu pågår tydligen nån uppgradering. Jag vet inte om kc även för helt blanka smartcards, men som sagt, om du primärt vill experimentera med pgp-nycklar och liknande så har kc alltså förberedda kort med stöd för just nyckelhantering. Det är samma kort som FSF:s Felloship Smartcard. Det går att köpa både enstaka och 10-pack av korten. http://wiki.fsfe.org/FellowshipSmartCard https://wiki.debian.org/Smartcards/OpenPGP Det var såvitt jag minns rätt enkelt att komma igång på Linux, men stödet för windows och mac os var besvärligt. -- Fredrik Jonson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnma8185.h27.fred...@biggles.jonson.org
Re: vos impressions offset
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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or interested) in spending their life working on Linux. If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone who is serious about using Debian in production does this. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? Simply mirroring the question is not an answer. Don is right; what have you done for Debian that they should be obliged to maintain the distro in ways you want? If you want something, the answer is always the same in Free Software: either do the work yourself or pay for it. No-one is obliged to do things to your liking without some consideration coming from your end. Mart -- We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes. --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/861tngjhvi@gaheris.avalon.lan
Re: Jumbo frame Debian Wheezy.
Another finding is that i can change the mtu less then 1500 my system is dell precision 490. i have other system on squeeze with no issue at all. but they are on proxmox. i have tested that i can set any value less then or equals to 1500 mtu but when i even try 1501 it says SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument i have same system working on proxmox. deployed on debian squeeze and i can go up to 9000 with no problem. this problem is in non proxmox system having debian wheezy with libvirt. Please guide. Thanks, Yousuf On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: i am trying to enable jumbo frame on Debian wheezy however nothing works. i ran a command ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 and receive invalid argument then i edit /etc/network/interfaces and added mtu 9000 when i ifdown and ifup eth0 it shows the same error invalid argument Please help. Thanks, Yousuf
Re: elfutils issues
On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 02:02:31PM +0100, Luciano Bello wrote: BTW, the situation with elfutils is somewhat similar, the bug report is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1170810 I'm reporting this issue to our elfutils maintainer to keep the track of it. Do you know if there is a plan to get CVE id for this/these issue/s? So there have been alot of fixes in upstream elfutils because of the fuzzing, and at least some those should probably get a CVE. One of the upstream statements: | I think it is reasonable | to just say that we are working towards making it safe to process arbitrary | random ELF files and DWARF debuginfo data with elfutils by 0.162 (to be | released on March). But that in general people should only use elfutils | tools and libraries on files produced by a trusted toolchain for now. Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141231130015.ga31...@roeckx.be
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or interested) in spending their life working on Linux. If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone who is serious about using Debian in production does this. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? Simply mirroring the question is not an answer. Don is right; what have you done for Debian that they should be obliged to maintain the distro in ways you want? If you want something, the answer is always the same in Free Software: either do the work yourself or pay for it. No-one is obliged to do things to your liking without some consideration coming from your end. Mart Mart, I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. It's you and others who have demanded people spend money they don't have. If you want them to help Debian, then are you going to pay for it to happen? If not, who (besides my clients) is going to pay? When you can answer that, I can answer your question. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a40c21.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? I donate my own time to work on the parts of Debian that interest and concern me. My employers donate some of my paid time as well to work on the parts of Debian which are important for the research that I do. HP, IBM, Intel, Google, Canonical, Linaro, and many other companies pay other Debian Developers to work on the parts of Debian which are important for them. There's no reason why the companies that you work for can't also expend some of their budget or employee hours to do the same if Debian (or whatever distribution they are switching to) is important for their success. [And since you've indicated that Linux is important to their success, hopefully they're also contributing to kernel development.] On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. I've no vested interest in what your clients do, but if they fail to contribute to whatever distribution they switch to, they will undoubtedly end up switching again, and spending non-zero sums of money and employee time to do so. But at the end of the day, it's your client's budget, and this is free software. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com I've had so much good luck recently I was getting sated with it. It's like sugar, good luck. At first it's very sweet, but after a while you start to think: any more of this and I shall be sick. -- Adam Roberts _Yellow Blue Tibia_ p301 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141231182402.gs29...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. I think the point some are trying to make is that Debian's direction can be influenced[1], but this requires involvement. It might also be cheaper in the long term than distro-hopping every time the distribution in use takes an unwanted turn. Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or interested) in spending their life working on Linux. If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone who is serious about using Debian in production does this. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? Simply mirroring the question is not an answer. Don is right; what have you done for Debian that they should be obliged to maintain the distro in ways you want? If you want something, the answer is always the same in Free Software: either do the work yourself or pay for it. No-one is obliged to do things to your liking without some consideration coming from your end. Mart Mart, I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. It's you and others who have demanded people spend money they don't have. If you want them to help Debian, then are you going to pay for it to happen? If not, who (besides my clients) is going to pay? When you can answer that, I can answer your question. Jerry This is the problem with Linux, folks use it to make money and feel no obligation to contribute to it. Even if they do not contribute development time, they could budget an annual donation to the Linux Foundation, Debian or whatever distribution they use. Linux developers eat too. They would be paying a license fee if they were using MS or a commercial Unix. Just my thoughts. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On 31 December 2014 18:10:00 GMT+00:00, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. I think the point some are trying to make is that Debian's direction can be influenced[1], but this requires involvement. It might also be cheaper in the long term than distro-hopping every time the distribution in use takes an unwanted turn. Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt This is very interesting, I've always viewed Linux as 'the peoples' choice for an OS but watching these responses has made me think/realise that it's not really. Its development is driven by the biggest financial contributors - which will always be the corps. Due to it's open nature it is perhaps more susceptible to abuse/conflict in this area too. I guess I've been a little naive to that till this whole sysd thing. -- Simon
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/01/2015 5:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. I think the point some are trying to make is that Debian's direction can be influenced[1], but this requires involvement. It might also be cheaper in the long term than distro-hopping every time the distribution in use takes an unwanted turn. Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. Unfortunately for me, the direction of Linux is a problem, I see no future in continuing with Linux when it is possible to get the /right/ result for myself and my clients by moving away from Linux to, most likely, a BSD flavour [FreeBSD is the most likely at this stage]. The writing is on the wall for Linux as far as I am concerned. It's not just Debian, even though Debian [in my world view at least] has been a major driving force in the Linux world -- going with systemd now and all that will follow due to this decision, it's not rosy, not rosy at all. Spending monies or time trying to change the situation will only delay the inevitable and such monies and time would be wasted in my view. A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iF4EAREIAAYFAlSkSboACgkQqBZry7fv4vuiSgEAvMP5PTHdchdEmkIOE/9VeQy2 QWHjC7PjDk2rT6mm6FsA/jhL50I9gSV+90y6JdCSieaqeaaV1JmjvEcE3oeICAbn =V9DB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a449bc.4070...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS
On 12/31/2014 1:24 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? I donate my own time to work on the parts of Debian that interest and concern me. My employers donate some of my paid time as well to work on the parts of Debian which are important for the research that I do. HP, IBM, Intel, Google, Canonical, Linaro, and many other companies pay other Debian Developers to work on the parts of Debian which are important for them. There's no reason why the companies that you work for can't also expend some of their budget or employee hours to do the same if Debian (or whatever distribution they are switching to) is important for their success. [And since you've indicated that Linux is important to their success, hopefully they're also contributing to kernel development.] Yes, there is a reason, Don. It's called solvency. For a company to remain solvent, it must have a positive cash flow. To do so, it must carefully watch its expenditures. Now maybe YOUR company can afford to donate some of your paid time to Debian. My clients' can't. There are too many other, higher priority items which would come first if the had the time and money. And maybe YOU donate your time after hours to contribute. That's fine for you. But don't expect the whole world to jump on it just because you do. Remember - these guys are systems admins, not programmers. Although they have some programming experience, it is limited, and it is definitely not what is necessary to support an operating system. Additionally, these guys value their family time, and really don't care to work on computer stuff after hours. On Wed, 31 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. I've no vested interest in what your clients do, but if they fail to contribute to whatever distribution they switch to, they will undoubtedly end up switching again, and spending non-zero sums of money and employee time to do so. But at the end of the day, it's your client's budget, and this is free software. Yes, and it is still cheaper to change distros every 10 years or so. Besides - even if they contributed to Debian, it would not have made a difference. The decisions have been made by the TC, and a few more users aren't going to change that. Really, your expectations are unrealistic, especially since you don't know my clients, their business, their employees' qualifications and a whole lot of other things about them. I do, and I support their decisions. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a44f3c.2050...@gmail.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On 12/31/2014 1:10 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 31 dec 14, 09:45:53, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. I think the point some are trying to make is that Debian's direction can be influenced[1], but this requires involvement. It might also be cheaper in the long term than distro-hopping every time the distribution in use takes an unwanted turn. Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. Kind regards, Andrei Andrei, as I've said - these companies don't have the time or money to contribute to Debian. Not that it would have made any difference - the TC did not consult them when making their decision, and would not have consulted them even if my clients had been contributing. Andrei, I follow your advice here and appreciate it a lot. I've learned a lot from you. And you can contribute all you want. But don't expect everyone else to have the skills or means to do so. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a44ff0.70...@gmail.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
On 12/31/2014 1:34 PM, Mike McGinn wrote: On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:45:53 Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 12/31/2014 4:20 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: Jerry Stuckle stuckleje...@gmail.com writes: On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or interested) in spending their life working on Linux. If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone who is serious about using Debian in production does this. That's a great idea. Who's going to pay these people - you? Simply mirroring the question is not an answer. Don is right; what have you done for Debian that they should be obliged to maintain the distro in ways you want? If you want something, the answer is always the same in Free Software: either do the work yourself or pay for it. No-one is obliged to do things to your liking without some consideration coming from your end. Mart Mart, I've never said anyone should be obliged to maintain Debian the way I want. I said the way they are going is not acceptable, so my clients are changing distributions. Period. It's you and others who have demanded people spend money they don't have. If you want them to help Debian, then are you going to pay for it to happen? If not, who (besides my clients) is going to pay? When you can answer that, I can answer your question. Jerry This is the problem with Linux, folks use it to make money and feel no obligation to contribute to it. Even if they do not contribute development time, they could budget an annual donation to the Linux Foundation, Debian or whatever distribution they use. Linux developers eat too. They would be paying a license fee if they were using MS or a commercial Unix. Just my thoughts. Mike -- Mike McGinn KD2CNU Be happy that brainfarts don't smell. No electrons were harmed in sending this message, some were inconvenienced. ** Registered Linux User 377849 Mike, they know Linux developers need to eat, also. My clients use Linux for a number of reasons, including stability, small footprint and ability to load a bare-bones system (i.e. no GUI, no unwanted background processes, etc.). At the same time, they have a budget they must stay within, and there is no money in that budget to hire programmers other than for their unique needs. They don't set the budget - that comes from higher up in the corporation. And those people have to set budgets based on expected corporate income. Now I don't know if they donate to the Linux Foundation or not - and it's none of my business. All I know is when they need new work done, it's pretty much always a negotiation between what I want for the work and what they are able to pay. And even if they had hired people to work on Debian, it would have made no difference. The TC made their decision, and would not have asked my clients for input. So the change would have to be made, anyway. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a45260.90...@gmail.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS
On 12/31/2014 02:32 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Really, your expectations are unrealistic, especially since you don't know my clients, their business, their employees' qualifications and a whole lot of other things about them. But, they will pay money out to go distro shopping, reconfiguring all the existing installations to the new distro, etc. Which means someone is getting paid billable hours, eh?? Maybe you could talk them into investing that money into Devuan and spare themselves the headaches? :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a45862.7090...@gmail.com
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS
On 12/31/2014 3:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/31/2014 02:32 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Really, your expectations are unrealistic, especially since you don't know my clients, their business, their employees' qualifications and a whole lot of other things about them. But, they will pay money out to go distro shopping, reconfiguring all the existing installations to the new distro, etc. Which means someone is getting paid billable hours, eh?? Maybe you could talk them into investing that money into Devuan and spare themselves the headaches? :) Ric No, Ric, the TC has already made their decision - without any input from my clients. And the decision is not acceptable to my clients. And even if my clients had donated to Debian, it would not have changed the outcome. They would have to change distros, anyway. But I didn't mean for this to become another anti-systemd thread. The decision has been made to move away from Debian. I can't change that. And, knowing my clients, what they are doing is right for them, no matter what anyone on this list (none of whom know my clients or even the market they are in) thinks. This is my last post on the subject. I'm not going to continue another anti-systemd thread - or try to tell a successful company they are doing things wrong. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a45a5a.1080...@gmail.com
Any advice for a user about to use LVM for the first time?
I've just gotten 4 4TB drives to replace my 4 2TB drives. I'm wanting to have one normal 4TB drive and one logical 12TB drive, so I will make three physical drives into one group, one logical volume and one partition support the big partition. My system actually resides on a fifth: an SSD drive. I am not interested in RAID, and I'm not sure striping would even help. I just have gigantic files I need to create and process once in a while, so it's really temporary space. I do want to insulate the one drive from any failures on the other three. That data is not at all temporary, but it is backed up regularly. I want to limit it's failure profile. I've read through some documentation, including http://www.debian-administration.org/article/410/A_simple_introduction_to_working_with_LVM So I think I know how to do it. I'm just not sure I know how to do it _best_. I'm a bit daunted by the size of /etc/lvm/lvm.conf, and wonder if the defaults are going to work for me. I'm about to start a backup of the existing system. It will take a while. I wonder if anyone has wisdom they'd like to share. -- Kevin O'Gorman #define QUESTION ((bb) || (!bb)) /* Shakespeare */ Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: Of course, this will not fare well with people that chose GNU/Linux because of the wrong impression that it is without cost. [1] possibly even more so than other distributions, provided the desired changes don't go against the Social Contract, etc. Kind regards, Andrei Thank you Andrei, that was exactly my point. Mart -- We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes. --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/86oaqjides@gaheris.avalon.lan
Moving LVM volume?
I recently added a new hard drive to my home system. I decided to use it
to create an all-new bootable 'jessie' system. I created a partition
table that I thought would be flexible:
/dev/sdb1 / (root) {7G}
/dev/sdb2 /swap {4GB}
/dev/sdb3 /oldjunk{1G}
/dev/sdb4 extended {remainder}
/dev/sdb5 LVM{one large volume}
Most of the partitions- /usr, /home, /var, ... were in LVM2.
What I've learned since then is that /usr seems to have special
status, and probably shouldn't be part of LVM as certain tasks
early in the boot process can't seem to access the interior of
LVM.
I've moved 'oldjunk' into the LVM, and want to expand this
partition to become the new /usr. I've shrunk the LVM, but
the freed space is all at the far end of the LVM. I have
been unable to move it towards the end of the disk space,
so I can expand /dev/sdb3. gparted, resize2fs, pvmove,...
(running from a CDROM-based rescue disk) have all failed.
Is there some method that I've overlooked?
TIA!
-Frank
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Debian right for my use?
Greetings I need help determining whether Debian OS is the right OS for my needs. I am a Draftsman working from home due to physical handicaps. I use graphic and RAM memory intensive 3D CAD software in Windows 7. My W7 OS is operating poorly and is expensive to replace. If Linux is right for me; I need to replace it with a 1. Very stable, 2. With least amount of configuring and 3. User Friendly Linux OS. A friend suggested that I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu Trusty 14.04, which I did. It worked fine until I installed my 3D CAD software within Virtual Box. Since then Ubuntu and the software crashes often. It even reboots instead of turning the screen black when the 10 minute screen saver feature operates. My PC System Info is: BioStar A780L3C Motherboard AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 450 Processor × 3 64 Bit 8 Gig RAM Memory 150 Gig Hard Drive Please respond Thank You Very Much Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp543fdd547d109bfe301d9ebb...@phx.gbl
Re: Debian right for my use?
On 12/31/2014 8:35 PM, Cadman wrote: Greetings I need help determining whether Debian OS is the right OS for my needs. I am a Draftsman working from home due to physical handicaps. I use graphic and RAM memory intensive 3D CAD software in Windows 7. My W7 OS is operating poorly and is expensive to replace. If Linux is right for me; I need to replace it with a 1. Very stable, 2. With least amount of configuring and 3. User Friendly Linux OS. A friend suggested that I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu Trusty 14.04, which I did. It worked fine until I installed my 3D CAD software within Virtual Box. Since then Ubuntu and the software crashes often. It even reboots instead of turning the screen black when the 10 minute screen saver feature operates. My PC System Info is: BioStar A780L3C Motherboard AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 450 Processor × 3 64 Bit 8 Gig RAM Memory 150 Gig Hard Drive Please respond Thank You Very Much Dave I like PCLinuxOS 64 KDE. User friendly to Windows expatriates. There are a number of CAD programs available in Linux, but if you're using something like AutoCAD in a 3-D version, I don't know if there is anything with the same command system. For A/C 2D there is DraftSight, which is a little tricky to get running on PCLOS, but the commands seem to be the same as in recent versions of AutoCAD. The Forum for PCLOS is very user-friendly and helpful, and they will help you get DraftSight running if you want that. If you're coming to Linux, you should at the very least see if there is a clone, or near-clone of the cad program you're used to that runs natively on Linux without Virtual Box. Also, there is WINE, which runs some Windows programs directly--no Virtual Box--which would be a much better solution IF it will run your program. Look up the WINE site (find it via Google) and they have a huge listing of what runs, what almost runs, and what won't. I've got a version of WordPerfect that runs, slightly clunky, and a version of Corel Draw which runs perfectly in WINE. Keep us posted as to what you wind up doing! And good luck. Also Happy New Year! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a55125.5050...@optonline.net
