Re: alternative to avidemux?
On 02/28/2015 03:44 AM, Victor wrote: Hi, I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages. It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just for this. I enabled deb-multi and had various problems with VLC after. I REALLY wanted avidemux, too, but played merry hell purging the deb-nultimedia packages after. If you can compile avidemux from source, please let me know what packages you had to install. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f18918.5050...@gmail.com
alternative to avidemux?
Hi, I’m looking for an alternative to avidemux. I need it for two specific tasks: a) cut and remux videos without reencoding (so you can cut a 30min chunk in a 3h video without loosing quality) b) burn in .ass/.ssa subtitles (this is the Substation alpha format, where you can do fancier things than with srt) + It should have a gui, especially for the (a) task (to locate precisely the in/out cutting points). I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages. It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just for this. I did compile avidemux successfully in the past, and it worked. But now it’s broken probably due to some upgrade I did meanwhile… So before I set to recompile it, I was wondering if maybe some other program in debian (Jessie) includes the above features. Thanks for reading! Blue skies, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f17feb.2050...@svictor.net
Re: how to install previous version of Icedove (24.8.1)
On 02/28/2015 01:18 AM, The Wanderer wrote: The only major negative change from 24.x to 31.x that I'm aware of is the addressing component of the Compose dialog, which can be reverted via userChrome.css changes. Exactly! The header of the compose dialog was bothering me. But using your css, I was able to revert almost everything back to the 24 look. That's fantastic. Thanks so much If the result doesn't work, or if it's too confusing to try to put together the necessary CSS from the multiple snippets, let me know and I can try to pull out the correct pieces from my own userChrome.css and post them here. (Just posting the entire file wouldn't do; I have several other changes, aimed at reverting changes introduced since TB2.) I would very much like to see your userChrome.css, even if it contains many more changes. Perhaps people could find some other useful tweaks. I did not know so much can be done with userChrome.css. For example, can I hide the From field entirely (I am only ever using one sender anyway, thus the field is useless). Also, is it possible to make the input fields with round edges? Cheers, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f18f3b.3050...@aol.com
Re: alternative to avidemux?
On 28/02/2015 10:23, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/28/2015 03:44 AM, Victor wrote: Hi, I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages. It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just for this. I enabled deb-multi and had various problems with VLC after. I REALLY wanted avidemux, too, but played merry hell purging the deb-nultimedia packages after. If you can compile avidemux from source, please let me know what packages you had to install. Ric Build dependencies are listed here: http://avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=build:install_2.6 However the supplied build script fails if you give it the --deb option. It complains about something related to fakeroot. After some searching I found that other people experienced that problem too and solved it with two edits in bootStrap.bash. 1) comment out the line $FAKEROOT_COMMAND make package DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || fail package replace it with fakeroot make package DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || make package DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || fail package 2) comment out the block that says export FAKEROOT_COMMAND=fakeroot CMAKE_VERSION=`cmake --version | sed s/^.* 2\.\([0-9]*\.[0-9]*\).*/2\.\1/g` echo CMAKE Version : $CMAKE_VERSION case $CMAKE_VERSION in 2.8.8|2.8.7|2.8.9|2.8.10|2.8.11|2.8.12|2.8.13) echo Cmake version =2.8.7 doesnt need fakeroot export FAKEROOT_COMMAND= ;; esac This builds and installs ok here. The resulting qt4 version works fine. The gtk one doesn’t. It just displays a window with Glade Cannot load glade file. That being said, I’m still looking for an alternative to burn .ass/ssa subs and to cut a video without reencoding… Cheers, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f19c16.9010...@svictor.net
Re: File transfer
Quoting David Christensen (dpchr...@holgerdanske.com): Verifying the image by wiping the system drive and then restoring the image: 1. Wipe the system drive using your tool of choice (such as the drive manufacturer's bootable utility disc). 2. Perform imaging steps 1 through 7, above. 3. Verify the checksum of the image file: # cd /mnt/image/p43200 # md5sum -c p43200-20150227-2200-debian-7-amd64-xfce-op.img.md5 4. Restore the image file to the system drive: # dd if=p43200-20150227-2200-debian-7-amd64-xfce-op.img of=/dev/sdc Look at the block count when done -- it should match what you started with. (Things might be goofy if the system drive and the image destination drive use different block sizes.) 5. Perform imaging steps 10 and 11, above. 6. Boot the system, log in, and have a look around. If everything looks good, proceed with using the computer. If it's broken, wipe the system drive, do a fresh install, and try again. I don't know how to have a look around. If everything looks good, proceed with using the computer. Not a clue. OTOH having generated an md5sum of the backup, why not just pipe a repeat dd into md5sum and see if they match. If you must be thorough, then wipe and restore the system and dd | md5sum again. Another small point; by do a fresh install, do you mean repeat your restoration? Or install afresh, ie from scratch? An unrelated question is how often do you do all this, and how do you age your image. By age I mean how long do you treat it as a valid image because your live system is evolving from the moment you start reusing it after imaging it. Myself, I prefer to archive (original and modified) copies of any system files I change, any configuration commands I've used, package lists, non-Debian debs etc. and re-install from scratch. (We're going off topic...) Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228150732.ga7...@alum.home
need help on kvm
during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have CPU extensions ... Is it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions?? I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run emulator. Thanks!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZD0wqLrQB50uAzViRU9kkiih9t7jn2uYeFo=nove7k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy
No será menos complicado bajar wheezy a un cd o dvd e instalar ?? pos tal vez se dure un poco más el proceso pero no da tantas diferencias. Sí eso es más directo, no sé si más sencillo porque los pasos para actualizar son muy pocos también. Quizás me convenga hacer eso, más que no tengo conexión a Internet en mi casa, lo descargo en la casa de mi hermana y listo. Ahora una duda, hace tiempo que no instalo desde cd o dvd, ¿sigue siendo igual que con un cd sólo alcance para instalarlo con el entorno gráfico y después instalar el resto de los paquetes con aptitude? o voy a precisar descargar los 7 u 8 cds necesariamente. Gracias de nuevo! Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable, mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda. Los pasos que seguí fueron: 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list 2do. aptitude update 3ro. aptitude upgrade Acá es cuando dice Resolviendo las dependencias... abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada uno son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20 casos entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la pantalla, probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y se cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook Asus). ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso? Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es recomendable. Saludos! Darío -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CABbN1Rze+BiFp9uKrK5w_o7=kcsoke62zd4gljyur69qk-6...@mail.gmail.com
Is my disk too crowded ?
I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and I only use it to read .doc files other people send me. I don't use the spreadsheet or database features. Is some reduced-functionality version available? Filesystem 1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 330215 189549123617 61% / udev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev tmpfs 400736 696400040 1% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/0923b264-e330215 189549123617 61% / tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock tmpfs 2457480 76 2457404 1% /run/shm /dev/sda10 176581224 1423588 166187808 1% /home /dev/sda9 376807 10270347081 3% /tmp /dev/sda6 8649992 5967084 2243512 73% /usr /dev/sda7 2882592 495636 2240524 19% /var -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228091101.6d0cc...@debian.hsd1.il.comcast.net
Sorting directories by size
I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so that 254G comes before 1,3T? I'm guessing I would need some sort of regexp, and I don't know those at all (well, barely). Any help would be appreciated! Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpU7mtE5cxHT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: need help on kvm
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:52:01 +0800 Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote: during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have CPU extensions ... Is it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions?? I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run emulator. Thanks!!! http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#What_do_I_need_to_use_KVM.3F -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpMDIW7R8242.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: sources.list ???
El sábado, 28 feb 2015, a las 07:43 UTC+1 horas, JAWV WV escribió: Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para sources.list? Gracias y buena semana !!! Esa es una zona muy grande, es más que probable que no haya uno que sea el más eficiente para todos a la vez. Hay un paquete que te puede ayudar, de validez mundial: apt-spy Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228125017.3e531...@gmail.com
Re: need help on kvm
On 2/28/15, Philipp Schneider foo.phil@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:00:02 +0100, Long Wind wrote: during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have CPU extensions ... Is it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions?? I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run emulator. You can run QEMU, but it is slow. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Installing_QEMU#Installing_QEMU-KVM -- I am afraid android emulator require kvm, not qemu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cab-gxzaanwncrfq1gzzxsfp-gm0yrea7qv3ngwpa0zy9jm5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
Hi. On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:11:01 -0600 Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote: I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? Try using this to find the most bloated directory: du -k /usr | sort -n | less And, BTW, I don't have separate /usr, and have this: Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs rootfs9.6G 2.6G 6.6G 28% / libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and I only use it to read .doc files other people send me. I don't use the spreadsheet or database features. Is some reduced-functionality version available? abiword, if you need GUI. antiword/catdoc/unrtf, if you don't. Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e. libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress). Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228184804.89266a7a372c949ee045e...@gmail.com
Re: Sorting directories by size
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Petter Adsen wrote: I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so that 254G comes before 1,3T? I'm guessing I would need some sort of regexp, and I don't know those at all (well, barely). Any help would be appreciated! What did Google find? e.g. A quick google search found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7463554/bash-how-can-i-list-out-the-size-of-each-file-and-directory-recursively-and-s -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228123537.GA29600@tal
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager, show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a partition, to show its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as the partition identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that has no relevance or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8 installation iso image, rescue mode, list of partitions, from which to select, to install the root system. I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228152122.gb7...@alum.home
Re: need help on kvm
I'm leaving the list. Pls reply to longwind2...@gmail.com Thanks to all those who reply!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZARupbAwR_mBRE3T5V44=vsst7czcqmgbjdthgn-bz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:11:01 -0600 Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote: I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and I only use it to read .doc files other people send me. I don't use the spreadsheet or database features. Is some reduced-functionality version available? I believe Abiword can read .doc files, but I'm not sure how good the support is. It's worth taking a look at, though. Petter -- I'm ionized Are you sure? I'm positive. pgpVg6swcOZRV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: need help on kvm
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:00:02 +0100, Long Wind wrote: during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have CPU extensions ... Is it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions?? I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run emulator. You can run QEMU, but it is slow. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Installing_QEMU#Installing_QEMU-KVM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mcsaoh$qb3$2...@dont-email.me
Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy
El vie, 27-02-2015 a las 20:55 -0300, Darío escribió: Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable, mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda. Los pasos que seguí fueron: 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list 2do. aptitude update 3ro. aptitude upgrade Acá es cuando dice Resolviendo las dependencias... abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada uno son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20 casos entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la pantalla, probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y se cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook Asus). ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso? Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es recomendable. Saludos! Darío el tiempo depende de la cantidad de cosas que tengas instaladas y repositorios configurados (apreciación personal: menos es mejor). Además, como estás haciendo un dist-upgrade, te conviene leer las notas de publicación donde te cuentan que podría salir mal y como arreglarlo: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1425130334.1598.4.ca...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Network Manager
Hola Pablo El 28 de febrero de 2015, 16:55, Pablo pablocar...@gmail.com escribió: Estoy lidiando con la necesidad de hacer algunas cosas en network manager que generalmente las hacia a mano tocando interface y me andaban. Por ejemplo aca necesito si o si usar network manager por que si meto mano al archivo interface el demonio de network manager me hace pelota lo tocado a mano. el comportamiento estándar del network manager, hasta donde yo sé, es ignorar cualquier interfaz declarada en el interfaces. Es decir, si eth0 esta definida en interfaces, es problema tuyo la configuración y network manager no maneja eth0. Nunca me modificó ese archivo. En cuanto borras la configuración de eth0 de interfaces el network manager se hace cargo y la administra él, después del reinicio del servicio. Entonces ahi va la consulta, alguien uso alguna ves network manager para habilitar por ejemplo que una interfaz de red levante con la opción de allow-hotplug? Si por hot plug te referís a que se de cuenta que enchufaste el cable y configure la conexión, también es el comportamiento estándar. Aunque a veces remolonee un poco :-) -- Pablo -- Jorge A Secreto Analista de Sistemas MP 361
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
On Saturday 28 February 2015 20:57:04 Sharon Kimble wrote: I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/14 from an old wheezy net-install disc dated 28/05/13! I'm in the process of downloading a jessie net-install for future installation. This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically 3.16.0-4-amd64? And if it is a good idea, It is not. how do I do it? Is it as simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel? Thanks Sharon. Yes, it is as easy as this to run into all kinds of problems. This question has been asked before on this list and the answer is: Provided you got the 64bit hardware, reinstall a complete amd64 system. If you need to install certain 32bit programs you will want to read up on multiarch: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/531/Using_proprietary_i386_apps_on_an_amd64_system Here are some words about a transition from i386 to amd64 but if you ask my opinion: far too much hassle - it's at least not worth my time. https://www.v13.gr/blog/?p=11 If you can't afford to spend the time to reinstall completely right now, then stay with i386 until you can invest the time for a shiny new system. Sincerely Eike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2727337.TdZh5lkGGm@lxcl01
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system. It has 6G of memory and 750G hard drive. Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32 bit. I am using weezy. Moe On 02/28/2015 05:05 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Sharon Kimble wrote: This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically 3.16.0-4-amd64? How much memory do you have in your system? If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage. Stay with the 32-bit kernel. If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should definitely use a 64-bit kernel. If the answer is between 4G and 64G then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and disadvantages to both. If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there. A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace. It is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit. Not really worth it. Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image? If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland. If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits. And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel? Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it. # uname -a Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux # apt-get install linux-image-amd64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 Suggested packages: linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 23.4 MB of archives. After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f24045.8050...@tampabay.rr.com
Re: how to install previous version of Icedove (24.8.1)
On 02/28/2015 at 04:49 AM, Martin Vegter wrote: On 02/28/2015 01:18 AM, The Wanderer wrote: The only major negative change from 24.x to 31.x that I'm aware of is the addressing component of the Compose dialog, which can be reverted via userChrome.css changes. Exactly! The header of the compose dialog was bothering me. But using your css, I was able to revert almost everything back to the 24 look. That's fantastic. Thanks so much You're quite welcome. Note that there's somewhat-ongoing work, under I think that same bug, to revise and revamp the Compose dialog again (partly as a way of continuing the work of which these changes were the first step, and partly in response to complaints about these changes); if and when those new changes land, there's zero guarantee that this existing CSS will continue to be effective, and it might even break things. Just keep it in mind that if the Compose dialog gets broken when upgrading to an even newer Icedove version later on, you should probably try removing these userChrome entries as a first diagnostic step. If the result doesn't work, or if it's too confusing to try to put together the necessary CSS from the multiple snippets, let me know and I can try to pull out the correct pieces from my own userChrome.css and post them here. (Just posting the entire file wouldn't do; I have several other changes, aimed at reverting changes introduced since TB2.) I would very much like to see your userChrome.css, even if it contains many more changes. Perhaps people could find some other useful tweaks. I did not know so much can be done with userChrome.css. It's very powerful, yes; the only difficulties are figuring out what the elements you want to modify/remove are called, and dealing with cascade effects if you want to override something as a default state but still let other things override it again later. My current userChrome.css is attached. Combined with a few prefs (some of which are fairly obscure, and one of which I actually wrote - there's another one I wrote which is due to land in TB38, I think), this reverts 99% of the IMO-undesirable UI changes made to Thunderbird after the time of Thunderbird 2. The largest bulk of the changes are copied from the discussion thread linked in comment 8 of that Bugzilla entry, and are what I referred to on that bug as Bozz's CSS. I'm not entirely satisfied with the resulting header pane; it doesn't include the message timestamp, which the TB2 one did. I haven't figured out a reasonable way to add that via userChrome.css, however, and it hasn't been worth the trouble for me to write an add-on for the purpose. For example, can I hide the From field entirely (I am only ever using one sender anyway, thus the field is useless). Also, is it possible to make the input fields with round edges? Almost certainly so. I'd advise reading up on the appropriate bits of CSS; the border-radius property is suggested immediately by a naive Google search on related terms: http://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_borders.asp -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw /* Rearrange, reduce the size of, and eliminate clutter on the message * headers pane */ #header-view-toolbox, #otherActionsButton, #expandedBoxSpacer { display: none !important; } #expandedHeaderRows { padding-top: 0px !important; } .headerValue { line-height: 1.25em !important; padding: 0px !important; } #dateValueBox { display: none } /* Restore zebra-striping of messages in the thread pane */ #threadTree treechildren::-moz-tree-row(even) { background-color: -moz-oddtreerow; } /* Fix the To/CC/etc. portion of the TB31 compose UI */ /* : From: msgIdentity box : */ #msgIdentity { background-color: -moz-Field !important; transition: border .0s, background-color .0s !important; border-radius: 2px !important; } @media not all and (-moz-windows-default-theme) { #msgIdentity { -moz-border-top-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-right-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-bottom-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-left-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important; } #msgIdentity:hover, #msgIdentity[focused=true] { background-color: -moz-Field !important; -moz-border-top-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-right-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-bottom-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important; -moz-border-left-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important; } } /* : To, Cc, Bcc button : */ @media not all and (-moz-windows-default-theme) { .aw-menulist { margin-top: 0px !important; -moz-margin-end:
Re: Sorting directories by size
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:15:42 +0100 Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote: I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so that 254G comes before 1,3T? Use sort -h ? Cheers, Ron. -- Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations ? -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228092922.742d0...@ron.cerrocora.org
Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden
Beste mensen, Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet. Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer. Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord met 32-bit Wat is nu het probleem? Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde. Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima. Hoe los ik dit op? Ik ben niet een kenner, noch techneut. Met vriendelijke groeten, Dirk Ruijne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1425130199.4077.12.camel@ruijne.ruijne
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote: What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? You can start with https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html and then work backwards in time. It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. You'll have to be more specific. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28022015204834.3fb0dd12f...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/14 from an old wheezy net-install disc dated 28/05/13! I'm in the process of downloading a jessie net-install for future installation. This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically 3.16.0-4-amd64? And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.6, emacs 24.4.1.0 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:50:26 + Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote: What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? You can start with https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html and then work backwards in time. It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. You'll have to be more specific. It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame it. This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after the real server IP address had been used once. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228211218.1c528...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
Sorry, I meant that I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/15! Got the year wrong! Ooops! Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.6, emacs 24.4.1.0 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
Charles Blair wrote: I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? 73% is not very full. The knee of the curve for performance fall-off of a full disk usually occurs above 85%. I wouldn't do anything. What type of file system? YOu can see this with the df -T option. The find command calls stat(2) on every file. Performance is strongly dependent upon the number of files and not the size of the file nor the amount of free space. If your system is gathering up a lot of little files then find will take longer to stat(2) each of those files. Strongly affecting system performance will be the amount of ram available to provide file system buffer cache for the file system. The tool I like the best to look at general system memory use is 'htop'. Look at the Mem bar graph. http://hisham.hm/htop/index.php?page=screenshots If you are suffering what seems like slow disk performance the problem may be lack of sufficient ram to provide sufficient file system buffer cache. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
Philippe Clérié wrote: Brian wrote: Philippe Clérié wrote: It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. You'll have to be more specific. Nothing major. Just that every so often when trying to reach a host being used as a DNS server with dnsmasq, I get hit with that address. Why? As far as I can see that should never happen. It's just an annoyance and I was trying to understand the purpose of that assignment. I've read through some of that thread you pointed to and to be honest, it's not at all clear what problem was being solved. I'm still not entirely convinced it's useful. But it's easily dealt with so... :-) On a network server it isn't really useful. A network server will always have at least one network connection. The network will always be up and online. If the server only has one IP address then people get slack and start to assume that every machine has exactly one IP address and every IP address as a reverse DNS back to that one hostname in a one to one correspondence. That tended to be the classic legacy Unix programming model. It isn't true in the general case however and multi-homed hosts break those assumptions. Just because people did it, a lot, doesn't make it right. A mobile device such as a laptop or tablet is, well, mobile. People take them everywhere. They are always getting different addresses from DHCP. There isn't any interconnection between dhcp and /etc/hosts. You could write a hook script though so that every time an IP address comes in through dhcp then it could update the /etc/hosts file. On a desktop it could go either way. Does the desktop have DHCP? If so then the IP address assigned could vary from time to time. But of course you can always assign a static IP address to your home desktop too and then it looks more like a server. Think also of the mobile device. When offline between networks then the network device is offline. Let's say you were trying to use a VM on a laptop while on a train or airplane disconnected from any network. In that case if it required an IP address then you wouldn't be able to communicate. By using 127.0.1.1 on the lo loopback device then the problem of an offline network is avoided. The lo device is never offline. The lo loopback device is always available for local traffic and using 127.0.1.1 enables local communication regardless of the state of the external network. Bob P.S. That type of dynamic update is what Dynamic DNS is trying to do with the networked DNS data. MS-Windows hosts always try to do a Dynamic DNS update after getting an IP address and ignore the error when they can't. Most of the time you can't such as when operating at a coffee shop, airport, hotel, and so forth. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
Linux-Fan wrote: Maureen L Thomas wrote: My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system. It has 6G of memory and 750G hard drive. Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32 bit. I am using weezy. I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM). Agreed. 6G and a pristine new system install then I would install an amd64 64-bit system. Actually even with 4G I usually install 64-bit anyway just for consistency with the new direction everything is moving. But as you can see I do still have 32-bit systems and I am not converting them to 64-bit as a conversion. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Re: need help on kvm
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 09:39:34PM +0800, Long Wind wrote: I'm leaving the list. Pls reply to longwind2...@gmail.com Thanks to all those who reply!!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZARupbAwR_mBRE3T5V44=vsst7czcqmgbjdthgn-bz...@mail.gmail.com Do check whether there is an option in the BIOS. On an Intel machine yesterday, I found the switch needed to turn on virtualisation options under security settings. Hope this helps, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228173559.ga1...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
On Saturday 28 February 2015 15:48:04 Reco wrote: Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e. libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress). It makes very little difference. Though it obviously makes some. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201502281755.09446.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
Hi. On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:55:09 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 28 February 2015 15:48:04 Reco wrote: Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e. libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress). It makes very little difference. Though it obviously makes some. True. Even removing all libreoffice packages should free ~300Mb max. Still, every little bit helps. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228210658.23e6cc2f100ec476053c9...@gmail.com
jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable
hi, I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current jessie (updated this morning): http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png Clicking on the half-displayed buttons is a no-op. I can reproduce it by clicking on woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz on http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload (see screenshot above). Freeciv-gtk[23] work fine (also gtk intensive applications). -- Shall I report this as a (RC?) bug against iceweasel? (I couldn't find anything related here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=iceweasel) Any help is much appreciated!! Best Regards, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87r3t9n7qt@bitburger.home.felix
Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 02:29:59PM +0100, Dirk Ruijne wrote: Beste mensen, Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet. Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer. Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord met 32-bit Wat is nu het probleem? Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde. Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima. Hoe los ik dit op? Begin met te onderzoeken of de computer/video nog een signaal verstuurt of dat de monitor het verstuurde signaal niet meer begrijpt. Geert, Bedankt. Een nieuwer scherm heb ik niet. Er moet nog ergens een CRT scherm op zolder staan en anders wordt het het beeldscherm van de buren... Dit gaat even duren. Beide doe je door een andere (en nieuwer) beeldscherm aan te sluiten. Met vriendelijke groeten, Dirk Ruijne Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228172107.gd23...@gpm.stappers.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2f9945f14c9fd7941d1dfe0cf7e9f0aa.squir...@webmail.nedlinux.com
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric Very understandable. I do not think adding LABEL to your system would particularly give you anything which do not have already. I use it with USB sticks which move from machine to machine, The UUID may change but the LABEL doesn't. Debian always boots. Having said that, I do not think labelling with e2label would cause your system to go into blow up mode and the UUID is is still there. Changing means trusting my judgement. Ignoring the advice means you can sleep well at nights. There is that to consider as well. Next time I install fresh might be a better time to play with labels! :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f22bab.50...@gmail.com
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
Joe wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Joe wrote: It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame it. Excuse me? Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1? How is that even working at all? That is completely wrong. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. Such as? What in terms of DHCP configuration determines what source IP address is used by dhcpd? DHCP is a bit special, operating on MAC addresses rather than IP addresses, so I suppose many clients don't care what IP address turns up. Windows 8 seems uncouth enough to expect a real IP address, or at least the same address as was used earlier. Can you share your dhcpd.conf file? Private mail for that would be fine if you don't want to dump the entire thing to the list. Here is a complete copy of a simple dhcpd that serves my wifi network. # The ddns-updates-style parameter controls whether or not the server will # attempt to do a DNS update when a lease is confirmed. We default to the # behavior of the version 2 packages ('none', since DHCP v2 didn't # have support for DDNS.) ddns-update-style none; # option definitions common to all supported networks... option domain-name proulx.com; option domain-name-servers 192.168.230.109, 192.168.230.119; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; # If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local # network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented. authoritative; subnet 192.168.93.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option routers 192.168.93.1; range 192.168.93.100 192.168.93.254; } What does your file look like? I am using KVM on my machines. I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines. I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not seeing the problem you describe anywhere. What VM software are you using? None. All bare metal stuff. Sorry. I confused you with the original poster who was using VMs and dnsmasq for the dhcp server for them. Understand now that this is a different case and you are using bare metal. That should make things easier. Sorry for the mix up. This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after the real server IP address had been used once. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. Please say more about it. How is your networking set up? Are you using a network bridge? No. It's a two-NIC server running DHCP for the internal network, linked with Bind9, fixed IPs on the NICs. The use with BIND9 should be unrelated. Works great. But bind is unrelated to dhcp. Please install dhcpdump and then capture a trace of a dhcp exchange. It is very useful for debugging dhcp issues. dhcpdump -i eth1 Supposedly. It works fine with XP, Win7, various Debians and Macbooks and a Humax TV recorder. And a Raspberry Pi running Wheezy Raspbian. No dice with Windows 8, which of course I put down to W8 being broken. But that machine picked up addresses perfectly well in other networks... What does a Windows DHCP server have that ISC dhcpd doesn't? Or a cheap DSL router, for that matter. One follows the standards and the other is windows? ;-) When I got fed up, and W8 manual networking is a pain (who in God's name ever thought APIPA addresses were a good idea? The one way to *absolutely* *guarantee* that a computer won't operate in an existing network), I put a packet sniffer on it, and lo and behold, there were second and subsequent DHCP packets arriving with the offending source address, and no further discussion from the W8 end. ROTFL! Remove the hosts entry, the problem goes away, and that's where I stop trying to fix it. I cannot imagine why an Ethernet implementation would ever allow a source address of the 127. persuasion to be used other than on lo, so I'm not about to try to debug it. Bad route? What is the output of this? ip route show Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sources.list ???
Desde ecuador lo hago con el servidor kernel.org, me resultó muy rápido.
Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable
On 2015-02-28, Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net wrote: hi, I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current jessie (updated this morning): http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png Clicking on the half-displayed buttons is a no-op. I can reproduce it by clicking on woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz on http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload (see screenshot above). Freeciv-gtk[23] work fine (also gtk intensive applications). -- Shall I report this as a (RC?) bug against iceweasel? (I couldn't find anything related here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=iceweasel) Any help is much appreciated!! Best Regards, What happens when you click on the bottom dialog border and drag downwards, i.e., when you resize the dialog vertically? -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmf4nrl.lc4.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On 02/28/2015 03:50 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote: What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? You can start with https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html and then work backwards in time. It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. You'll have to be more specific. Nothing major. Just that every so often when trying to reach a host being used as a DNS server with dnsmasq, I get hit with that address. It's just an annoyance and I was trying to understand the purpose of that assignment. I've read through some of that thread you pointed to and to be honest, it's not at all clear what problem was being solved. I'm still not entirely convinced it's useful. But it's easily dealt with so... :-) -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. Anonymous -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f23e74.2030...@gcal.net
Re: alternative to avidemux?
Whew! I had to install all the things-dev and it finally completed successfully. Thanks! -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f24082.4010...@gmail.com
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 15:23 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Software there asks, who am I? They then pass the IP address around. Software doing this is simply broken. Nothing guarantees (nor any standard demands) that the hostname actually resolves to anything, not to talk about a valid public IP address. Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Software there asks, who am I? They then pass the IP address around. Software doing this is simply broken. Nothing guarantees (nor any standard demands) that the hostname actually resolves to anything, not to talk about a valid public IP address. First let me say that I agree completely. I explicitly said that in my message. It is completely wrong. That doesn't change the fact that it is often coded that way. Second though is that there is a lot of things that are wrong with the world. It is often outside of your power to affect them. In which case you can only suck it up and work around the mess and deal with it. That one-sytem == one-IP model was commonly used in Unix software for years and years. It is still used. The two primary problem children that I see today are Synopsis and Cadence. However even they don't have the in house technical knowledge to fix their problems anymore. I gave up trying to tilt at those windmills long ago. The real lesson here is that people shouldn't be creating *new* software that relies upon that buggy model. How do we influence people so that we don't have this problem moving forward? The only way I know is to avoid having that configuration as the normal configuration. That is yet another point in favor of using a hostname mapped to 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts. As the new generation grows up with that configuration then they won't make the old bad assumptions and won't code in that buggy operating model that causes people problems such as I described. BTW... If you want to look at something you might actually be able to fix then look at Spring RTS. It has been a while and I will munge the detail but last I played it that game made exactly the same assumption of passing IP addresses around and passing a 127 to the remote for connection. The remote client trying to join the game gets a 127 address and can't join itself. The two systems have to work in cooperation with one the server and the other the client so that remote IP addresses are passed between them. In the right combination of two machines it works but trying to do both on one system fails. Since that is free(dom) licensed it is possible that someone might actually fix it one day. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
Sharon Kimble wrote: This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically 3.16.0-4-amd64? How much memory do you have in your system? If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage. Stay with the 32-bit kernel. If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should definitely use a 64-bit kernel. If the answer is between 4G and 64G then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and disadvantages to both. If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there. A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace. It is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit. Not really worth it. Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image? If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland. If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits. And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel? Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it. # uname -a Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux # apt-get install linux-image-amd64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 Suggested packages: linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 23.4 MB of archives. After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
Joe wrote: Brian wrote: Philippe Clérié wrote: What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? You can start with https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html and then work backwards in time. Every scheme proposed and used solves one problem and creates a different problem. For me the 127.0.1.1 scheme solves most of the problems and I like it the best for my random desktop and server machines. But it doesn't work for large CAD/EDA engineering environments that run distributed processing. Basically the classic legacy Unix environment where IP addresses and hostnames are uniquely interchangeable. Software there asks, who am I? They then pass the IP address around. When that is 127.0.1.1 things are not happy. In that type of environment it must be set to the host-external LAN IP address. It is basically a poor assumption on the software's part but a lot of EDA/CAD code has been written that way. Most of the time it is easier to work around than to try to convince some company you are paying six figures a license for to fix it. But that doesn't work when the system is a multi-homed server with multiple IP addresses. Because no single IP address works on each of the attached networks. There is no single scheme that works for everyone. It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. You'll have to be more specific. It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame it. Excuse me? Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1? How is that even working at all? That is completely wrong. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. I am using KVM on my machines. I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines. I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not seeing the problem you describe anywhere. What VM software are you using? This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after the real server IP address had been used once. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. Please say more about it. How is your networking set up? Are you using a network bridge? Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
On 02/28/2015 11:25 PM, Maureen L Thomas wrote: My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system. It has 6G of memory and 750G hard drive. Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32 bit. I am using weezy. Moe I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM). HTH Linux-Fan -- http://masysma.lima-city.de/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:23:10 -0700 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Joe wrote: It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame it. Excuse me? Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1? How is that even working at all? That is completely wrong. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. Such as? What in terms of DHCP configuration determines what source IP address is used by dhcpd? DHCP is a bit special, operating on MAC addresses rather than IP addresses, so I suppose many clients don't care what IP address turns up. Windows 8 seems uncouth enough to expect a real IP address, or at least the same address as was used earlier. I am using KVM on my machines. I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines. I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not seeing the problem you describe anywhere. What VM software are you using? None. All bare metal stuff. This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after the real server IP address had been used once. Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration. Please say more about it. How is your networking set up? Are you using a network bridge? No. It's a two-NIC server running DHCP for the internal network, linked with Bind9, fixed IPs on the NICs. Supposedly. It works fine with XP, Win7, various Debians and Macbooks and a Humax TV recorder. And a Raspberry Pi running Wheezy Raspbian. No dice with Windows 8, which of course I put down to W8 being broken. But that machine picked up addresses perfectly well in other networks... What does a Windows DHCP server have that ISC dhcpd doesn't? Or a cheap DSL router, for that matter. When I got fed up, and W8 manual networking is a pain (who in God's name ever thought APIPA addresses were a good idea? The one way to *absolutely* *guarantee* that a computer won't operate in an existing network), I put a packet sniffer on it, and lo and behold, there were second and subsequent DHCP packets arriving with the offending source address, and no further discussion from the W8 end. Remove the hosts entry, the problem goes away, and that's where I stop trying to fix it. I cannot imagine why an Ethernet implementation would ever allow a source address of the 127. persuasion to be used other than on lo, so I'm not about to try to debug it. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228232022.352db...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: Can't get past authenticity of host popup with ssh
Ross Boylan wrote: I can ssh from machine A to B as user ross on both, using key-based login. ssh-agent is running under KDE on A. A is Debian wheezy, B is Debian squeeze. However, when I do the following sequence on A: sux # change to root with X credentials ssh -i /home/ross/.ssh/id_rsa ross@B A window pops up with the message The authenticity of host 'xxx' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is YYY. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? The title is OpenSSH Authentication Passphrase Request and it has 2 buttons, OK and Cancel. When I click OK I get a message, in my original terminal, Host key verification failed. I think there must be a problem/confusion in there surrounding the $HOME at that time. I suggest double checking $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts for every possible value of $HOME that you can postulate. Maybe that will turn up something. Clicking cancel doesn't change the result. Operating in a shell from which I have unset DISPLAY and the SSH_AGENT variables doesn't change the result (there's no popup, just an immediate verification failure). Try it with the idea that $HOME isn't correctly as expected. Using the command 'printenv HOME' can be useful because it avoids $HOME being expanded by the shell and will expand the actual value of it at that later time just like the real program. I would be very grateful if anyone could explain what's going and what I can do to get past this. I have checked permissions of the relevant files for ross and root on A, and they appear to be in order. On A, root's .ssh/ has only a known_hosts file. You are using sux which I never use. I am unfamiliar with the details and the details are what is needed to understand what is happening. If you sux a terminal (xterm or other) instead of an ssh what do you get for $HOME? In that terminal if you ssh to the remote host what do you get? (Unset DISPLAY to avoid the dialog and force in terminal errors if you get one.) I would also check and possibly unset SSH_ASKPASS too. I suspect that when you sux a terminal something will be different from what you expect. I have never encountered this popup before; I have only seen the Are you sure you want to continue connecting in the same terminal from which I ran ssh, and I can reply on the command line. I don't know where the popup is coming from. It sounds to me like this popup is part of KDE. I have seen both KDE and GNOME try to encapsulate ssh like this before. My speculation is that because of the popup all my responses are taken as No for continuing connecting. I have to run as root for sshuttle. If you sux a terminal then you will be root. Then use that shell to understand what is happening. Personally I would simply su or sudo in a regular terminal. I don't see a need to use sux for this. But each to their own. However you might try that in this case in order to probe the edges of the box. su - (or sudo -s, or sudo su -, or whatever) ssh ... By using su instead of sux I eliminated the popup and got past the host verification. Now that root on A has B in the known_hosts file I can connect from the sux session as well. Oh! I see you got past this but it took me so long to reply that I decided to leave the above in my mail anyway. I still do not understand where the popup came from and why it didn't work. Here's some more info on what ssh was doing during the failed connection: debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Server host key: RSA 14:d2:cd:ea:d3:a0:82:5b:25:b8:8d:00:ad:c5:54:68 debug1: checking without port identifier debug1: read_passphrase: can't open /dev/tty: No such device or address debug1: permanently_drop_suid: 0 Host key verification failed. I think the popup happened after the last debug line above. If the host key verification failed then it is because of one of the host key files /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts or $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts doesn't contain the current key or doesn't match the current key. You likely do not have /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts therefore I suspect that $HOME isn't what you think it is at that moment due to sux setting it different from what you expect. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy
El Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:55:22 -0300, Darío escribió: Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable, mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda. Recuerda que wheezy va a pasar a ser versión olstable en pocos días/ semanas, no se si habrás considerado instalar jessie directamente. Los pasos que seguí fueron: 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list 2do. aptitude update 3ro. aptitude upgrade Con un upgrade no sé si podrá hacerlo bien, necesitarás un dist- upgrade o full-upgrade para que todas las dependencias y conflictos se resuelvan correctamente. Acá es cuando dice Resolviendo las dependencias... abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada uno son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20 casos entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la pantalla, probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y se cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook Asus). La pantalla se puede oscurecer por varios motivos, peor vamos, que las instrucciones para actualizar de una versión a otra las tienes aquí: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso? Es mejor que inicies el procedimiento de actualización desde una sesión SIN entorno gráfico. Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es recomendable. El notificador de actualizaciones sólo actualiza paquetes a su versión más actual, no lo uses para actualizar de una versión a otra. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.02.28.16.38...@gmail.com
FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror
Buenas, Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el sistema híbrido. Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos parámetros para que funcione. ¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo Gracias!
Re: FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror
El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:05:03 -0300, Epsilon Minus escribió: Buenas, Ese html... Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el sistema híbrido. No sé a qué te refieres con sistema híbrido (?). Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos parámetros para que funcione. Pues como no seas un poco más claro con las características del servidor, poco te voy a poder decir. ¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo No me he enterado de mucho pero sí te puedo decir que LVM no es un sistema RAID (!) son dos cosas distintas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.02.28.18.29...@gmail.com
Re: Password y seguridad
El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 16:33, Edward Villarroel (EDD) edward.villarr...@gmail.com escribió: (recuperado por filtro) El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 11:01, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:39:21 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 10:36, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) usando base64 podria cifrar el password lo que no quiero es que queden en claro hay otra alternativa a base64? Base64 no es un sistema de cifrado, ni mucho menos, así que sinceramente no sé lo que buscas. tapar el password del codigo se se vea una cosa... si lo leen que no se vea cual es Usa cifrado, dentro o fuera del código, es que no veo otra opción. okey que opcion de sifrado sabes? Según el lenguaje de programación/aplicación la función de cifrado te permitirá varias opciones, las más comunes son DES, AES, MD5, Blowfish, SHAxxx, etc... Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cakprtdg9edhdfphnhptw_bqck_vdcyaw4dfxfglf9qvxnpp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager, show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a partition, to show its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as the partition identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that has no relevance or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8 installation iso image, rescue mode, list of partitions, from which to select, to install the root system. I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f21489.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
Quoting Charles Blair (c-bl...@illinois.edu): I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and I only use it to read .doc files other people send me. I don't use the spreadsheet or database features. Is some reduced-functionality version available? Filesystem 1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 330215 189549123617 61% / udev 10240 0 10240 0% /dev tmpfs 400736 696400040 1% /run /dev/disk/by-uuid/0923b264-e330215 189549123617 61% / tmpfs 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock tmpfs 2457480 76 2457404 1% /run/shm /dev/sda10 176581224 1423588 166187808 1% /home /dev/sda9 376807 10270347081 3% /tmp /dev/sda6 8649992 5967084 2243512 73% /usr /dev/sda7 2882592 495636 2240524 19% /var Tricky to answer without knowing what sort of functionality/package mix you have. On my own wheezy box (X and fvwm, no desktop), /usr looks like: 8700M /usr/ 290M /usr/bin/ 1M /usr/games/ 17M /usr/include/ 1884M /usr/lib/ 1M /usr/local/ 12M /usr/sbin/ 6388M /usr/share/ 112M /usr/src/ Delving in, we find (sorted by size): 67M /usr/lib/gcc 76M /usr/lib/iceweasel 81M /usr/lib/python2.6 84M /usr/lib/python2.7 93M /usr/lib/jvm 154M /usr/lib/chromium 324M /usr/lib/libreoffice 504M /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu 1884M /usr/lib 31M /usr/share/libreoffice 33M /usr/share/man 33M /usr/share/midi 39M /usr/share/inkscape 44M /usr/share/help 47M /usr/share/java 52M /usr/share/gimp 59M /usr/share/pyshared 65M /usr/share/emacs 101M /usr/share/icons 102M /usr/share/fonts 151M /usr/share/texmf 153M /usr/share/sounds 317M /usr/share/locale 337M /usr/share/openclipart 619M /usr/share/texlive 1579M /usr/share/openclipart2 2217M /usr/share/doc 6388M /usr/share The culprits in doc are texlive and lilypond which are two of the most important systems for me. I've already filed a bug against the sizes of the files in openclipart; if space were short, I would get rid of openclipart2 too because I think most of it is on the web. I only use / and /home partitions, so I create 32G root partitions nowadays. That leaves plenty of room for anything up to 10G of /var/cache/apt-cacher-ng on whichever box I run it on. Laptops a little less. The above generated with function duse { local DIR=$(realpath ${1:-.}) ( for j in $(find $DIR -maxdepth ${2:-1} -type d) ; do du --si -s -BM $j ; done ) | sort -k 2 | expand | sed -e 's/\([0-9.M]*\)\( *\)/\2\1 \2\2\2\2/' } and | sort -h as appropriate. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228193830.ga10...@alum.home
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:21:23 -0600 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com): I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager, show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a partition, to show its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as the partition identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that has no relevance or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8 installation iso image, rescue mode, list of partitions, from which to select, to install the root system. I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. The /sbin/blkid command is also useful. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228195253.60116...@jresid.jretrading.com
hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. Anonymous -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f220f3.4050...@gcal.net
Re: sources.list ???
El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:43:56 -0500, JAWV WV escribió: Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para sources.list? Pues seguramente alguno de EE.UU. En España nos pasa igual, los mejores servidores de actualización son los europeos :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.02.28.16.39...@gmail.com
Re: FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror
Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el sistema híbrido. No sé a qué te refieres con sistema híbrido (?). Sistema hibrido son tambien llamados FakeRaid, Se configura Raid por Bios pero lo administra el SO (por eso hibrido) son mucho màs economicos que una controladora de RAID. Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos parámetros para que funcione. Pues como no seas un poco más claro con las características del servidor, poco te voy a poder decir. Es un servidor que trae la posibilidad de establecer Raid por bios, pero no trae controladora. No es plenamente un Raid por Hardware. No se con que otro nombre se lo conoce, en ingles se lo llamo mucho FakeRaid. ¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo No me he enterado de mucho pero sí te puedo decir que LVM no es un sistema RAID (!) son dos cosas distintas. LVM no es un sistema de RAID, es sistema de administracion de Discos y espacio. Si lo que se puede hacer con LVM es hacer mirror entre Volumenes logicos. Todo por software, administrado desde el mismo Linux. Mi duda es si alguno tiene experiencia en estos sistemas de Raid hibridos / fakeraids / raid por bios (como quieran llamarle), no es lo más recomendable, lo ideal es usar una controladora de Raid. Mi pregunta era alguno tenia experiencia en espejar volumenes logicos a traves de LVM o tienen alguna otra herramienta para Raid por software en caliente que valga la pena investigar. No se si aclara.. Saludos, -- Epsilon Minus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cabsg2323r-vf-wr3wrtpvqt3d-2hi++vm02wgemgsxzotny...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28022015192228.f47159c4a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :) Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28022015200351.bc86c2fb6...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote: On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :) Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f2219b.4030...@gmail.com
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching someone struggle. :) e2label(8). I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric Very understandable. I do not think adding LABEL to your system would particularly give you anything which do not have already. I use it with USB sticks which move from machine to machine, The UUID may change but the LABEL doesn't. Debian always boots. Having said that, I do not think labelling with e2label would cause your system to go into blow up mode and the UUID is is still there. Changing means trusting my judgement. Ignoring the advice means you can sleep well at nights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28022015203032.a279730e0...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Is my disk too crowded ?
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 09:11:01 -0600, Charles Blair wrote: I have been recently noticing that the find command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df output below) is 73% full. Should I do something? Yes; quantify for us what you mean by a long time. Prefacing the command with time and giving us the output would be a start. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/28022015185450.7628ebc28...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: sources.list ???
El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:43:56 -0500, JAWV WV escribió: Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para sources.list? Latinoamérica es enorme, seguramente habrá muchos espejos por ahí repartidos. Pese a ello quizá los de EU sean la mejor opción. En México tenemos el del IGEOF que funciona bastante bien, al menos a mi que estoy geográficamente muy cerca. Habrá que probar con lo que sugiere Manolo. Suerte. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caacnk7btkq2ry5x-0hhaepbfnyczvlkxhxv54dbsvxh1zdb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1
On 2015-02-28, Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net wrote: What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1? It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts. It is used when the host uses DHCP to obtain an IP address. One places an entry in /etc/hosts so that the host name is mapped to 127.0.1.1. Some X applications complain when the host name cannot be resolved. If your server has a static IP, then you would instead map that IP to the host name in the same file. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmf49ka.kur.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden
Op 28-02-15 om 14:29 schreef Dirk Ruijne: Beste mensen, Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet. Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer. Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord met 32-bit Dat heeft vooral met de videokaart te maken. Blijkbaar werkt 3D niet. De MSI B85M-P33 is voor vierde generatie Intel processoren, de ingebouwde grafische kaart wordt niet goed ondersteund in Debian 7, en er zijn ook wel wat andere problemen. Het werkt echter wel. Je zult wat verbeteringen zien als je de kernel uit backports gebruikt, maar eigenlijk werkt het pas goed met Debian 8 (Jessie, nog niet officieel uit), omdat daar nieuwe Xorg drivers in zitten e.d. Wat is nu het probleem? Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde. Ik heb heel wat computers ingericht met Debian 7 maar ben dit probleem nog niet tegen gekomen. Welke videokaart gebruik je? Je kunt daar achter komen met dit commando: lspci | grep VGA En werk je met een opensource driver, of met een closed-source driver? Was het probleem er al vanaf de installatie, of is het pas wat later ontstaan? Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f227cc.5010...@vandervlis.nl
Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 02:29:59PM +0100, Dirk Ruijne wrote: Beste mensen, Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet. Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer. Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord met 32-bit Wat is nu het probleem? Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde. Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima. Hoe los ik dit op? Begin met te onderzoeken of de computer/video nog een signaal verstuurt of dat de monitor het verstuurde signaal niet meer begrijpt. Beide doe je door een andere (en nieuwer) beeldscherm aan te sluiten. Met vriendelijke groeten, Dirk Ruijne Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228172107.gd23...@gpm.stappers.nl
Re: File transfer
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:48:25 -0500 Maureen L Thomas silverorbspin...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: If I understand you correctly then I only back up data, not the system. You have an excellent point and although I have never, so far at least, had a large problem losing my system or data I do see the advantage to doing just what you have said. I will be buying the book you suggested and hopefully get through enough to do a back up of the new system before I actually go on line with it. In the meantime, a little light relief: http://www.taobackup.com/ -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228194817.638e1...@jresid.jretrading.com
[OT] Network Manager
Estoy lidiando con la necesidad de hacer algunas cosas en network manager que generalmente las hacia a mano tocando interface y me andaban. Por ejemplo aca necesito si o si usar network manager por que si meto mano al archivo interface el demonio de network manager me hace pelota lo tocado a mano. Entonces ahi va la consulta, alguien uso alguna ves network manager para habilitar por ejemplo que una interface de red levante con la opcion de allow-hotplug? -- Pablo
Re: File transfer
On 02/28/2015 07:07 AM, David Wright wrote: I don't know how to have a look around. If everything looks good, proceed with using the computer. Not a clue. I call that the smoke test -- boot, log in, start some terminals, run some commands, start some applications, play some games, start the file manager, browse the file system, browse the network, play some music and videos, surf the web, log in via SSH from another machine, reboot, log in again, etc., looking for malfunctions. It's an informal, non-repeatable, quick and dirty spot failure test. Most imaging problems will cause a smoke test failure, but passing doesn't prove correctness. Ideally, there would be a complete system regression test to verify correctness, and each user would run that from their desktop. Please let me know if you find one. OTOH having generated an md5sum of the backup, why not just pipe a repeat dd into md5sum and see if they match. If you must be thorough, then wipe and restore the system and dd | md5sum again. You're right that it's probably more correct to feed the dd input to md5sum, rather than the output. I assume dd will throw an error message if the copying fails. I use USB flash drives for system drives, they are larger than my RAM, and therefore my kernel buffer cache doesn't contain all the blocks after dd runs. So, I md5sum the output because it's on a hard drive and takes less time. Another small point; by do a fresh install, do you mean repeat your restoration? Or install afresh, ie from scratch? fresh install = install afresh = install from scratch If the restored image fails to work correctly, there are at least the following possibilities: 1. Hardware failure. 2. System drive contained the flaws when imaged. 3. Imaging process failed. 4. Image restoration process failed. If #1 is the case, the machine should fail the smoke test after wiping and re-installing. If I fix and verify the hardware, restoring a good image should give me a working system. That leaves #2-4, which I assume were caused by operator error. So, I try again (wipe, install, smoke test, image, restore, smoke test) and pay more attention. An unrelated question is how often do you do all this, and how do you age your image. By age I mean how long do you treat it as a valid image because your live system is evolving from the moment you start reusing it after imaging it. I take system drive images after installation, prior to deployment, infrequently (3~6 months), prior to making big scary changes, after making big scary changes, and whenever else I feel the need. Aging isn't too big of a deal, because of Approx -- most or all of the updates since imaging should be local, so restoring, updating, and upgrading is fast. Myself, I prefer to archive (original and modified) copies of any system files I change, any configuration commands I've used, package lists, non-Debian debs etc. and re-install from scratch. I save downloads on the file server. I keep a system administration journal, a package list, and any configuration files I modify under version control (CVS). After re-install, I check out the old configuration files to a scratch directory and do the edits manually. (I've played with scripting certain common post-install chores, with limited success.) (We're going off topic...) Thank you for bringing me to the point of my backup digression: You transfer your files from an old machine to a new machine by backing up your files on the old machine and restoring them on the new machine. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f20737.8080...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com): On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote: of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs. Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric And AFAICT you have to label a swapfile with mkswap because, unless you avoid it, the debian installer's partitioner doesn't set a label itself. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150228195700.gb10...@alum.home
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
I did exactly that several years ago with no problem. I installed an amd64 kernel at which point grub knew about both. Changed default boot to the new kernel and ran for a while. Once all was well I uninstalled the pae kernel. I did it mostly because I expect that amd64 is the dominant kernel in the future. Although I haven't needed to, I believe I could add 64 bits as a foreign architecture if I wanted to run a 64 bit process. What appears to be too hard to contemplate is changing the base process architecture to 64 bits. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8761aleabf@aptiva.optonline.net
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
Thank you I will use the 64 bit one. Thanks again. Moe On 02/28/2015 05:51 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Linux-Fan wrote: Maureen L Thomas wrote: My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system. It has 6G of memory and 750G hard drive. Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32 bit. I am using weezy. I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM). Agreed. 6G and a pristine new system install then I would install an amd64 64-bit system. Actually even with 4G I usually install 64-bit anyway just for consistency with the new direction everything is moving. But as you can see I do still have 32-bit systems and I am not converting them to 64-bit as a conversion. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f2907d.9020...@tampabay.rr.com
Re: In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name
On 03/01/2015 12:55 AM, Csányi Pál wrote: Hi, I'm compiling a custom kernel for my Debian Wheezy operating system. In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name. The cursor blinking in the field but can't enter any letter. How can I solve this problem? Are you root user? You might need root privs to change system things. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f2b06a.4020...@gmail.com
Re: Exim4
citation de=Nicolas ROCHE ça ne marche jamais du premier coup pour moi en vrac, tu regardes avec les commandes suivantes les problèmes à résoudre : Merci pour ton aide. Voici les résultats des commandes. Malheureusement, je ne sais pas trop quoi en faire. # tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog 2015-03-01 07:02:37 Start queue run: pid=2466 2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YRWi4-0006wV-U6 Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YREjf-0005bn-Tj Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YRtAq-0006TC-76 Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:02:37 End queue run: pid=2466 2015-03-01 07:32:37 Start queue run: pid=4054 2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YRWi4-0006wV-U6 Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YREjf-0005bn-Tj Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YRtAq-0006TC-76 Message is frozen 2015-03-01 07:32:37 End queue run: pid=4054 $ exim4 -bt nicolas exim4 -bt nicolas R: smarthost for nicolas@bureau nicolas@bureau router = smarthost, transport = remote_smtp_smarthost host smtp.orange.fr [193.252.22.64] host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10] $ exim4 -d -bt nicolas exim4 -d -bt nicolas Exim version 4.80 uid=0 gid=0 pid=4381 D=fbb95cfd Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 5.1.29: (October 25, 2011) Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 PAM Perl Expand_dlfunc GnuTLS move_frozen_messages Content_Scanning DKIM Old_Demime Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm dbmjz dbmnz dnsdb dsearch ldap ldapdn ldapm mysql nis nis0 passwd pgsql sqlite Authenticators: cram_md5 cyrus_sasl dovecot plaintext spa Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral iplookup manualroute queryprogram redirect Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore/mbx autoreply lmtp pipe smtp Fixed never_users: 0 Size of off_t: 8 Compiler: GCC [4.7.2] Library version: GnuTLS: Compile: 2.12.20 Runtime: 2.12.20 Library version: Cyrus SASL: Compile: 2.1.25 Runtime: 2.1.25 [Cyrus SASL] Library version: PCRE: Compile: 8.30 Runtime: 8.30 2012-02-04 Total 19 lookups Library version: MySQL: Compile: 5.5.37 [(Debian)] Runtime: 5.5.41 Library version: SQLite: Compile: 3.7.13 Runtime: 3.7.13 WHITELIST_D_MACROS: OUTGOING TRUSTED_CONFIG_LIST: /etc/exim4/trusted_configs changed uid/gid: forcing real = effective uid=0 gid=0 pid=4381 auxiliary group list: none seeking password data for user uucp: cache not available getpwnam() succeeded uid=10 gid=10 changed uid/gid: calling tls_validate_require_cipher uid=102 gid=104 pid=4382 auxiliary group list: none tls_validate_require_cipher child 4382 ended: status=0x0 configuration file is /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated log selectors = 0ffc 00612001 trusted user admin user seeking password data for user mail: cache not available getpwnam() succeeded uid=8 gid=8 user name root extracted from gecos field root originator: uid=0 gid=0 login=root name=root sender address = root@bureau Address testing: uid=0 gid=104 euid=0 egid=104 Testing nicolas@bureau Considering nicolas@bureau routing nicolas@bureau hubbed_hosts router local_part=nicolas domain=bureau checking domains search_open: lsearch /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts key=bureau partial=2 affix=*. starflags=0 LRU list: :/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts End internal_search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts type=lsearch key=bureau file lookup required for bureau in /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts lookup failed trying partial match *.bureau internal_search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts type=lsearch key=*.bureau file lookup required for *.bureau in /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts lookup failed bureau in partial-lsearch;/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts? no (end of list) hubbed_hosts router skipped: domains mismatch smarthost router local_part=nicolas domain=bureau checking domains bureau in @:localhost? no (end of list) bureau in ! +local_domains? yes (end of list) R: smarthost for nicolas@bureau calling smarthost router smarthost router called for nicolas@bureau domain = bureau route_item = * smtp.orange.fr byname bureau in *? yes (matched *) original list of hosts = smtp.orange.fr options = byname expanded list of hosts = smtp.orange.fr options = byname set transport remote_smtp_smarthost finding IP address for smtp.orange.fr calling host_find_byname gethostbyname2(af=inet6) returned 4 (NO_DATA) fully qualified name = smtp.orange.fr gethostbyname2 looked up these IP addresses: name=smtp.orange.fr address=80.12.242.10 name=smtp.orange.fr address=193.252.22.64 queued for remote_smtp_smarthost transport: local_part = nicolas domain = bureau errors_to=NULL domain_data=NULL localpart_data=NULL routed by smarthost router envelope to: nicolas@bureau transport: remote_smtp_smarthost host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10] host smtp.orange.fr [193.252.22.64] nicolas@bureau router = smarthost, transport = remote_smtp_smarthost host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10] host
Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Sharon Kimble wrote: This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically 3.16.0-4-amd64? How much memory do you have in your system? 4G actual, 3.84g useable. If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage. Stay with the 32-bit kernel. If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should definitely use a 64-bit kernel. If the answer is between 4G and 64G then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and disadvantages to both. If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there. A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace. It is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit. Not really worth it. Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image? No, but I do have 2 browsers open for a project I'm working on. If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland. If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits. And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel? Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it. Thanks, that's what I thought, but I wanted to check first. # uname -a Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux # apt-get install linux-image-amd64 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 Suggested packages: linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 23.4 MB of archives. After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Bob Thanks very much, very useful. :) Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.6, emacs 24.4.1.0 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name
Hi, I'm compiling a custom kernel for my Debian Wheezy operating system. In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name. The cursor blinking in the field but can't enter any letter. How can I solve this problem? -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caonhaov4ytsm+whb1n0aho1ps1gkiqy9gkedhrqxceuomdx...@mail.gmail.com
LibreOffice: les touches mortes ont disparu
Bonsoir la liste, Il vient de m' arriver une blague curieuse: Dans LibreOffice, les touches mortes ( pour les accents circonflexe, grave, aigu et le tréma ) ne fonctionnent plus. Elles fonctionnent bien dans Kmail, dans un terminal,... partout où j' ai essayé, SAUF dans LibreOffice, où ne marchent que les accents dédiés en 1 touche ( éàùè ). J' ai recherché dans les paquets installés, n' ai rien trouvé d' anormal, j' ai fait une mise à jour des paquets, ça perdure... La seule chose un peu spéciale c'est que j'ai suivi la recommandation ( lors d' une mise à jour d' installer hunspell ) Avez-vous une idée, une proposition? Je vous en remercie à l'avance Patrick Carabin. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/59388897.1lOAxm6Z4N@patrick-toshiba-nb500