Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/28/2015 03:44 AM, Victor wrote:

Hi,



I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all
right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages.
It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just
for this.


I enabled deb-multi and had various problems with VLC after. I REALLY 
wanted avidemux, too, but played merry hell purging the deb-nultimedia 
packages after. If you can compile avidemux from source, please let me 
know what packages you had to install. Ric





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alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Victor

Hi,
I’m looking for an alternative to avidemux. I need it for two specific 
tasks:


a) cut and remux videos without reencoding (so you can cut a 30min chunk 
in a 3h video without loosing quality)
b) burn in .ass/.ssa subtitles (this is the Substation alpha format, 
where you can do fancier things than with srt)
+ It should have a gui, especially for the (a) task (to locate precisely 
the in/out cutting points).


I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all 
right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages.
It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just 
for this.
I did compile avidemux successfully in the past, and it worked. But now 
it’s broken probably due to some upgrade I did meanwhile… So before I 
set to recompile it, I was wondering if maybe some other program in 
debian (Jessie) includes the above features.


Thanks for reading! Blue skies,
Victor


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Re: how to install previous version of Icedove (24.8.1)

2015-02-28 Thread Martin Vegter
On 02/28/2015 01:18 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
 
 The only major negative change from 24.x to 31.x that I'm aware of is
 the addressing component of the Compose dialog, which can be reverted
 via userChrome.css changes.

Exactly! The header of the compose dialog was bothering me. But using
your css, I was able to revert almost everything back to the 24 look.

That's fantastic. Thanks so much

 If the result doesn't work, or if it's too confusing to try to put
 together the necessary CSS from the multiple snippets, let me know and I
 can try to pull out the correct pieces from my own userChrome.css and
 post them here. (Just posting the entire file wouldn't do; I have
 several other changes, aimed at reverting changes introduced since TB2.)

I would very much like to see your userChrome.css, even if it contains
many more changes. Perhaps people could find some other useful tweaks. I
did not know so much can be done with userChrome.css.

For example, can I hide the From field entirely (I am only ever using
one sender anyway, thus the field is useless). Also, is it possible to
make the input fields with round edges?

Cheers,
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Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Victor

On 28/02/2015 10:23, Ric Moore wrote:

On 02/28/2015 03:44 AM, Victor wrote:

Hi,



I used to do this with avidemux when I was on ubuntu and it worked all
right. But avidemux is not part of the official Debian packages.
It is on deb-multimedia, but I’d prefer not to enable a whole repo just
for this.


I enabled deb-multi and had various problems with VLC after. I REALLY 
wanted avidemux, too, but played merry hell purging the deb-nultimedia 
packages after. If you can compile avidemux from source, please let me 
know what packages you had to install. Ric





Build dependencies are listed here: 
http://avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=build:install_2.6


However the supplied build script fails if you give it the --deb option. 
It complains about something related to fakeroot.
After some searching I found that other people experienced that problem 
too and solved it with two edits in bootStrap.bash.


1) comment out the line
$FAKEROOT_COMMAND make package DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || fail package
replace it with
fakeroot make package DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || make package 
DESTDIR=$FAKEROOT_DIR/tmp || fail package


2) comment out the block that says
export FAKEROOT_COMMAND=fakeroot
CMAKE_VERSION=`cmake --version | sed s/^.* 
2\.\([0-9]*\.[0-9]*\).*/2\.\1/g`

echo CMAKE Version : $CMAKE_VERSION
case $CMAKE_VERSION in
  2.8.8|2.8.7|2.8.9|2.8.10|2.8.11|2.8.12|2.8.13)
 echo Cmake version =2.8.7 doesnt need fakeroot
 export FAKEROOT_COMMAND=
 ;;
  esac

This builds and installs ok here.
The resulting qt4 version works fine.
The gtk one doesn’t. It just displays a window with Glade Cannot load 
glade file.


That being said, I’m still looking for an alternative to burn .ass/ssa 
subs and to cut a video without reencoding…


Cheers,
Victor


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Re: File transfer

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting David Christensen (dpchr...@holgerdanske.com):
 Verifying the image by wiping the system drive and then restoring the image:
 
 1.  Wipe the system drive using your tool of choice (such as the
 drive manufacturer's bootable utility disc).
 
 2.  Perform imaging steps 1 through 7, above.
 
 3.  Verify the checksum of the image file:
 
 # cd /mnt/image/p43200
 
 # md5sum -c p43200-20150227-2200-debian-7-amd64-xfce-op.img.md5
 
 4.  Restore the image file to the system drive:
 
 # dd if=p43200-20150227-2200-debian-7-amd64-xfce-op.img of=/dev/sdc
 
 Look at the block count when done -- it should match what you
 started with.  (Things might be goofy if the system drive and the
 image destination drive use different block sizes.)
 
 5.  Perform imaging steps 10 and 11, above.
 
 6.  Boot the system, log in, and have a look around.  If everything
 looks good, proceed with using the computer.  If it's broken, wipe
 the system drive, do a fresh install, and try again.

I don't know how to have a look around.  If everything looks good,
proceed with using the computer. Not a clue.

OTOH having generated an md5sum of the backup, why not just pipe a
repeat dd into md5sum and see if they match. If you must be thorough,
then wipe and restore the system and dd | md5sum again.

Another small point; by do a fresh install, do you mean repeat your
restoration? Or install afresh, ie from scratch?

An unrelated question is how often do you do all this, and how do you
age your image. By age I mean how long do you treat it as a valid
image because your live system is evolving from the moment you start
reusing it after imaging it.

Myself, I prefer to archive (original and modified) copies of any
system files I change, any configuration commands I've used, package
lists, non-Debian debs etc. and re-install from scratch.

(We're going off topic...)

Cheers,
David.


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need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Long Wind
during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not
have CPU extensions ...

Is  it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions??

I can accept low performance
I'm developing android app and want to run emulator.

Thanks!!!


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Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy

2015-02-28 Thread Darío
 No será menos complicado bajar wheezy a un cd o dvd e instalar ?? pos tal
 vez se dure un poco más el proceso pero no da tantas diferencias.

Sí eso es más directo, no sé si más sencillo porque los pasos para
actualizar son muy pocos también.
Quizás me convenga hacer eso, más que no tengo conexión a Internet en
mi casa, lo descargo en la casa de mi hermana y listo.
Ahora una duda, hace tiempo que no instalo desde cd o dvd, ¿sigue
siendo igual que con un cd sólo alcance para instalarlo con el entorno
gráfico y después instalar el resto de los paquetes con aptitude? o
voy a precisar descargar los 7 u 8 cds necesariamente.

Gracias de nuevo!

 Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable,
 mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda.
 Los pasos que seguí fueron:
 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list
 2do. aptitude update
 3ro. aptitude upgrade
 Acá es cuando dice
 Resolviendo las dependencias...
 abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada uno
 son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20 casos
 entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la pantalla,
 probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y se
 cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la
 pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook
 Asus).

 ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso?

 Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el
 notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar
 actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es
 recomendable.

 Saludos!
 Darío


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Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Charles Blair
   I have been recently noticing that the find
command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?

   libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and
I only use it to read .doc files other people send me.
I don't use the spreadsheet or database features.
Is some reduced-functionality version available?

Filesystem   1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs  330215  189549123617  61% /
udev 10240   0 10240   0% /dev
tmpfs   400736 696400040   1% /run
/dev/disk/by-uuid/0923b264-e330215  189549123617  61% /
tmpfs 5120   0  5120   0% /run/lock
tmpfs  2457480  76   2457404   1% /run/shm
/dev/sda10   176581224 1423588 166187808   1% /home
/dev/sda9   376807   10270347081   3% /tmp
/dev/sda6  8649992 5967084   2243512  73% /usr
/dev/sda7  2882592  495636   2240524  19% /var


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Sorting directories by size

2015-02-28 Thread Petter Adsen
I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by
sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h
option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so
that 254G comes before 1,3T?

I'm guessing I would need some sort of regexp, and I don't know those
at all (well, barely).

Any help would be appreciated!

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Re: need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:52:01 +0800
Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com wrote:

 during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not
 have CPU extensions ...
 
 Is  it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions??
 
 I can accept low performance
 I'm developing android app and want to run emulator.
 
 Thanks!!!
 
 

http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#What_do_I_need_to_use_KVM.3F

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Re: sources.list ???

2015-02-28 Thread Manolo Díaz
El sábado, 28 feb 2015, a las 07:43 UTC+1 horas,
JAWV WV escribió:

Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para
latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para sources.list?

Gracias y buena semana !!!

Esa es una zona muy grande, es más que probable que no haya uno que sea
el más eficiente para todos a la vez. Hay un paquete que te puede
ayudar, de validez mundial: apt-spy

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Re: need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Long Wind
On 2/28/15, Philipp Schneider foo.phil@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:00:02 +0100, Long Wind wrote:

 during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have
 CPU extensions ...

 Is  it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions??

 I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run
 emulator.

 You can run QEMU, but it is slow.

 http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Installing_QEMU#Installing_QEMU-KVM


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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:11:01 -0600
Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote:

I have been recently noticing that the find
 command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
 output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?

Try using this to find the most bloated directory:

du -k /usr | sort -n | less


And, BTW, I don't have separate /usr, and have this:

Filesystem   Type  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs   rootfs9.6G  2.6G  6.6G  28% /


libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and
 I only use it to read .doc files other people send me.
 I don't use the spreadsheet or database features.
 Is some reduced-functionality version available?

abiword, if you need GUI.

antiword/catdoc/unrtf, if you don't.

Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e.
libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress).

Reco


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Re: Sorting directories by size

2015-02-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 01:15:42PM +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
 I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by
 sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h
 option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so
 that 254G comes before 1,3T?
 
 I'm guessing I would need some sort of regexp, and I don't know those
 at all (well, barely).
 
 Any help would be appreciated!

What did Google find?

e.g. A quick google search found this:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7463554/bash-how-can-i-list-out-the-size-of-each-file-and-directory-recursively-and-s

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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):
 I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8
 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like
 Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager,
 show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a partition, to show
 its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as the partition
 identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that has no relevance
 or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8 installation iso image, rescue
 mode, list of partitions, from which to select, to install the root
 system.

I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.)
You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents
of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.

Cheers,
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Re: need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Long Wind
I'm leaving the list.
Pls reply to longwind2...@gmail.com

Thanks to all those who reply!!!


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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:11:01 -0600
Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote:

I have been recently noticing that the find
 command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
 output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?
 
libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and
 I only use it to read .doc files other people send me.
 I don't use the spreadsheet or database features.
 Is some reduced-functionality version available?

I believe Abiword can read .doc files, but I'm not sure how good the
support is. It's worth taking a look at, though.

Petter

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Re: need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Philipp Schneider
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:00:02 +0100, Long Wind wrote:

 during kvm installation it says it fails because my system does not have
 CPU extensions ...
 
 Is  it possible to run kvm without CPU extensions??
 
 I can accept low performance I'm developing android app and want to run
 emulator.

You can run QEMU, but it is slow.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QEMU/Installing_QEMU#Installing_QEMU-KVM


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Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy

2015-02-28 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El vie, 27-02-2015 a las 20:55 -0300, Darío escribió: 
 Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable,
 mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda.
 Los pasos que seguí fueron:
 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list
 2do. aptitude update
 3ro. aptitude upgrade
 Acá es cuando dice
 Resolviendo las dependencias...
 abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada uno
 son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20 casos
 entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la pantalla,
 probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y se
 cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la
 pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook
 Asus).
 
 ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso?
 
 Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el
 notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar
 actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es
 recomendable.
 
 Saludos!
 Darío
 
 

el tiempo depende de la cantidad de cosas que tengas instaladas y
repositorios configurados (apreciación personal: menos es mejor).
Además, como estás haciendo un dist-upgrade, te conviene leer las notas
de publicación donde te cuentan que podría salir mal y como arreglarlo:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes


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Re: [OT] Network Manager

2015-02-28 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
Hola Pablo

El 28 de febrero de 2015, 16:55, Pablo pablocar...@gmail.com escribió:

 Estoy lidiando con la necesidad de hacer algunas cosas en network manager
 que generalmente las hacia a mano tocando interface y  me andaban. Por
 ejemplo aca necesito si o si usar network manager por que si meto mano al
 archivo interface el demonio de network manager me hace pelota lo tocado a
 mano.


el comportamiento estándar del network manager, hasta donde yo sé, es
ignorar cualquier interfaz declarada en el interfaces.
Es decir, si eth0 esta definida en interfaces, es problema  tuyo la
configuración y network manager no maneja eth0. Nunca me modificó ese
archivo. En cuanto borras la configuración de eth0 de interfaces el network
manager se hace cargo y la administra él, después del reinicio del servicio.


 Entonces ahi va la consulta, alguien uso alguna ves network manager para
 habilitar por ejemplo que una interfaz de red levante con la opción de
 allow-hotplug?


Si por hot plug te referís a que se de cuenta que enchufaste el cable y
configure la conexión, también es el comportamiento estándar. Aunque a
veces remolonee un poco :-)




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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Saturday 28 February 2015 20:57:04 Sharon Kimble wrote:
 I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/14 from an old wheezy
 net-install disc dated 28/05/13! I'm in the process of downloading a
 jessie net-install for future installation.
 
 This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a
 good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically
 3.16.0-4-amd64? And if it is a good idea, 
It is not.
 how do I do it? Is it as
 simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and
 delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel?
 
 Thanks
 Sharon.
Yes, it is as easy as this to run into all kinds of problems.
This question has been asked before on this list and the answer is: Provided 
you got the 64bit hardware, reinstall a complete amd64 system.
If you need to install certain 32bit programs you will want to read up on 
multiarch:
https://www.debian-administration.org/article/531/Using_proprietary_i386_apps_on_an_amd64_system

Here are some words about a transition from i386 to amd64 but if you ask my 
opinion: far too much hassle - it's at least not worth my time.

https://www.v13.gr/blog/?p=11

If you can't afford to spend the time to reinstall completely right now, then 
stay with i386 until you can invest the time for a shiny new system.

Sincerely
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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Maureen L Thomas
My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system.  It has 6G of memory and 750G 
hard drive.  Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32 
bit.  I am using weezy.

Moe

On 02/28/2015 05:05 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Sharon Kimble wrote:

This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a
good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically
3.16.0-4-amd64?

How much memory do you have in your system?

If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage.  Stay with the
32-bit kernel.  If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should
definitely use a 64-bit kernel.  If the answer is between 4G and 64G
then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and
disadvantages to both.

If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there.
A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace.  It
is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit.  Not really
worth it.

Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image?

If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland.
If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits.


And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as
downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete
the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel?

Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the
version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it.

   # uname -a
   Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux

   # apt-get install linux-image-amd64
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree
   Reading state information... Done
   The following extra packages will be installed:
 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64
   Suggested packages:
 linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook
   The following NEW packages will be installed:
 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64
   0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
   Need to get 23.4 MB of archives.
   After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used.
   Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

Bob



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Re: how to install previous version of Icedove (24.8.1)

2015-02-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 02/28/2015 at 04:49 AM, Martin Vegter wrote:

 On 02/28/2015 01:18 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
 
 The only major negative change from 24.x to 31.x that I'm aware of
 is the addressing component of the Compose dialog, which can be
 reverted via userChrome.css changes.
 
 Exactly! The header of the compose dialog was bothering me. But
 using your css, I was able to revert almost everything back to the
 24 look.
 
 That's fantastic. Thanks so much

You're quite welcome.

Note that there's somewhat-ongoing work, under I think that same bug, to
revise and revamp the Compose dialog again (partly as a way of
continuing the work of which these changes were the first step, and
partly in response to complaints about these changes); if and when those
new changes land, there's zero guarantee that this existing CSS will
continue to be effective, and it might even break things.

Just keep it in mind that if the Compose dialog gets broken when
upgrading to an even newer Icedove version later on, you should probably
try removing these userChrome entries as a first diagnostic step.

 If the result doesn't work, or if it's too confusing to try to put
 together the necessary CSS from the multiple snippets, let me know
 and I can try to pull out the correct pieces from my own
 userChrome.css and post them here. (Just posting the entire file
 wouldn't do; I have several other changes, aimed at reverting
 changes introduced since TB2.)
 
 I would very much like to see your userChrome.css, even if it
 contains many more changes. Perhaps people could find some other
 useful tweaks. I did not know so much can be done with
 userChrome.css.

It's very powerful, yes; the only difficulties are figuring out what the
elements you want to modify/remove are called, and dealing with cascade
effects if you want to override something as a default state but still
let other things override it again later.


My current userChrome.css is attached. Combined with a few prefs (some
of which are fairly obscure, and one of which I actually wrote - there's
another one I wrote which is due to land in TB38, I think), this reverts
99% of the IMO-undesirable UI changes made to Thunderbird after the time
of Thunderbird 2. The largest bulk of the changes are copied from the
discussion thread linked in comment 8 of that Bugzilla entry, and are
what I referred to on that bug as Bozz's CSS.

I'm not entirely satisfied with the resulting header pane; it doesn't
include the message timestamp, which the TB2 one did. I haven't figured
out a reasonable way to add that via userChrome.css, however, and it
hasn't been worth the trouble for me to write an add-on for the purpose.

 For example, can I hide the From field entirely (I am only ever
 using one sender anyway, thus the field is useless). Also, is it
 possible to make the input fields with round edges?

Almost certainly so. I'd advise reading up on the appropriate bits of
CSS; the border-radius property is suggested immediately by a naive
Google search on related terms:

http://www.w3schools.com/css/css3_borders.asp

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/* Rearrange, reduce the size of, and eliminate clutter on the message
 * headers pane */

#header-view-toolbox, #otherActionsButton, #expandedBoxSpacer {
  display: none !important;
}

#expandedHeaderRows {
  padding-top: 0px !important;
}

.headerValue {
  line-height: 1.25em !important;
  padding: 0px !important;
}

#dateValueBox {
  display: none
}


/* Restore zebra-striping of messages in the thread pane */

#threadTree  treechildren::-moz-tree-row(even) {
  background-color: -moz-oddtreerow;
}


/* Fix the To/CC/etc. portion of the TB31 compose UI */

/* : From: msgIdentity box : */

#msgIdentity {
   background-color: -moz-Field !important;
   transition: border .0s, background-color .0s !important;
   border-radius: 2px !important;
}

@media not all and (-moz-windows-default-theme) {
   #msgIdentity {
 -moz-border-top-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-right-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-bottom-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-left-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important;
  }

  #msgIdentity:hover,
  #msgIdentity[focused=true] {
 background-color: -moz-Field !important;
 -moz-border-top-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-right-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-bottom-colors: ThreeDHighlight ThreeDLightShadow !important;
 -moz-border-left-colors: ThreeDShadow ThreeDLightShadow !important;
  }
}


/* : To, Cc, Bcc button : */

@media not all and (-moz-windows-default-theme) {
  .aw-menulist {
 margin-top: 0px !important;
 -moz-margin-end: 

Re: Sorting directories by size

2015-02-28 Thread Ron
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:15:42 +0100
Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:

 I want to do a du -sh * in a directory, and sort the directories by
 sizes. The problem is that they are listed (since I use the -h
 option) in human-readable format. Is there an easy way to do this, so
 that 254G comes before 1,3T?

Use sort -h ?
 
Cheers,
 
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Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden

2015-02-28 Thread Dirk Ruijne
Beste mensen,

Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er
vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet.
Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer.
Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld
op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord
met 32-bit

Wat is nu het probleem?
Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt
het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als
gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik
zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde.

Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima.

Hoe los ik dit op? Ik ben niet een kenner, noch techneut.

Met vriendelijke groeten,



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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:

 What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?

You can start with

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html

and then work backwards in time.

 It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts.

You'll have to be more specific.


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Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Sharon Kimble
I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/14 from an old wheezy
net-install disc dated 28/05/13! I'm in the process of downloading a
jessie net-install for future installation.

This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a
good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically
3.16.0-4-amd64? And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as
simple as downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and
delete the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel?

Thanks
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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:50:26 +
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:
 
  What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?
 
 You can start with
 
   https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html
 
 and then work backwards in time.
 
  It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static
  hosts.
 
 You'll have to be more specific.
 
 

It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as
a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame
it. This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was
being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after
the real server IP address had been used once.

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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Sharon Kimble
Sorry, I meant that I installed this jessie setup on 10/02/15! Got
the year wrong! Ooops!

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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Charles Blair wrote:
I have been recently noticing that the find
 command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
 output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?

73% is not very full.  The knee of the curve for performance fall-off
of a full disk usually occurs above 85%.  I wouldn't do anything.

What type of file system?  YOu can see this with the df -T option.

The find command calls stat(2) on every file.  Performance is strongly
dependent upon the number of files and not the size of the file nor
the amount of free space.  If your system is gathering up a lot of
little files then find will take longer to stat(2) each of those
files.

Strongly affecting system performance will be the amount of ram
available to provide file system buffer cache for the file system.
The tool I like the best to look at general system memory use is
'htop'.  Look at the Mem bar graph.

  http://hisham.hm/htop/index.php?page=screenshots

If you are suffering what seems like slow disk performance the problem
may be lack of sufficient ram to provide sufficient file system buffer
cache.

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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Philippe Clérié wrote:
 Brian wrote:
 Philippe Clérié wrote:
   It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts.
 
  You'll have to be more specific.
 
 Nothing major. Just that every so often when trying to reach a host being
 used as a DNS server with dnsmasq, I get hit with that address.

Why?  As far as I can see that should never happen.

 It's just an annoyance and I was trying to understand the purpose of
 that assignment.
 
 I've read through some of that thread you pointed to and to be honest, it's
 not at all clear what problem was being solved. I'm still not entirely
 convinced it's useful. But it's easily dealt with so... :-)

On a network server it isn't really useful.  A network server will
always have at least one network connection.  The network will always
be up and online.  If the server only has one IP address then people
get slack and start to assume that every machine has exactly one IP
address and every IP address as a reverse DNS back to that one
hostname in a one to one correspondence.  That tended to be the
classic legacy Unix programming model.  It isn't true in the general
case however and multi-homed hosts break those assumptions.  Just
because people did it, a lot, doesn't make it right.

A mobile device such as a laptop or tablet is, well, mobile.  People
take them everywhere.  They are always getting different addresses
from DHCP.  There isn't any interconnection between dhcp and
/etc/hosts.  You could write a hook script though so that every time
an IP address comes in through dhcp then it could update the
/etc/hosts file.

On a desktop it could go either way.  Does the desktop have DHCP?  If
so then the IP address assigned could vary from time to time.  But of
course you can always assign a static IP address to your home desktop
too and then it looks more like a server.

Think also of the mobile device.  When offline between networks then
the network device is offline.  Let's say you were trying to use a VM
on a laptop while on a train or airplane disconnected from any
network.  In that case if it required an IP address then you wouldn't
be able to communicate.  By using 127.0.1.1 on the lo loopback device
then the problem of an offline network is avoided.  The lo device is
never offline.  The lo loopback device is always available for local
traffic and using 127.0.1.1 enables local communication regardless of
the state of the external network.

Bob

P.S.  That type of dynamic update is what Dynamic DNS is trying to do
with the networked DNS data.  MS-Windows hosts always try to do a
Dynamic DNS update after getting an IP address and ignore the error
when they can't.  Most of the time you can't such as when operating at
a coffee shop, airport, hotel, and so forth.



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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Linux-Fan wrote:
 Maureen L Thomas wrote:
  My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system.  It has 6G of memory and 750G
  hard drive.  Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32
  bit.  I am using weezy.
 
 I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process
 is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data
 compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM).

Agreed.  6G and a pristine new system install then I would install an
amd64 64-bit system.

Actually even with 4G I usually install 64-bit anyway just for
consistency with the new direction everything is moving.  But as you
can see I do still have 32-bit systems and I am not converting them to
64-bit as a conversion.

Bob


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Allwiew A5duo

2015-02-28 Thread vlad.seuta
Ftp obnovite sistemu

Re: need help on kvm

2015-02-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 09:39:34PM +0800, Long Wind wrote:
 I'm leaving the list.
 Pls reply to longwind2...@gmail.com
 
 Thanks to all those who reply!!!
 
 
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Do check whether there is an option in the BIOS.  On an Intel machine 
yesterday, I found the switch
needed to turn on virtualisation options under security settings.

Hope this helps,

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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 28 February 2015 15:48:04 Reco wrote:
 Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e.
 libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress).

It makes very little difference.  Though it obviously makes some.

Lisi


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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:55:09 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Saturday 28 February 2015 15:48:04 Reco wrote:
  Also, removing unneeded parts of libreoffice should help (i.e.
  libreoffice-calc and libreoffice-impress).
 
 It makes very little difference.  Though it obviously makes some.

True. Even removing all libreoffice packages should free ~300Mb max.
Still, every little bit helps.

Reco


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jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-02-28 Thread Felix Natter
hi,

I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current
jessie (updated this morning):
  http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png

Clicking on the half-displayed buttons is a no-op.

I can reproduce it by clicking on woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz on
http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload (see screenshot above).

Freeciv-gtk[23] work fine (also gtk intensive applications).

-- Shall I report this as a (RC?) bug against iceweasel?
(I couldn't find anything related here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=iceweasel)

Any help is much appreciated!!

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Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden

2015-02-28 Thread dirk
 On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 02:29:59PM +0100, Dirk Ruijne wrote:
 Beste mensen,

 Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er
 vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet.
 Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer.
 Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld
 op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord
 met 32-bit

 Wat is nu het probleem?
 Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt
 het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als
 gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik
 zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde.

 Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima.

 Hoe los ik dit op?

 Begin met te onderzoeken of de computer/video nog een signaal verstuurt
 of dat de monitor het verstuurde signaal niet meer begrijpt.

Geert,

Bedankt. Een nieuwer scherm heb ik niet. Er moet nog ergens een CRT scherm
op zolder staan en anders wordt het het beeldscherm van de buren...
Dit gaat even duren.


 Beide doe je door een andere (en nieuwer) beeldscherm aan te sluiten.


 Met vriendelijke groeten,

 Dirk Ruijne


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:


On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote:


Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching
someone struggle. :)

e2label(8).


I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man
page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric


Very understandable. I do not think adding LABEL to your system would
particularly give you anything which do not have already.

I use it with USB sticks which move from machine to machine, The UUID
may change but the LABEL doesn't. Debian always boots.

Having said that, I do not think labelling with e2label would cause
your system to go into blow up mode and the UUID is is still there.
Changing means trusting my judgement. Ignoring the advice means you
can sleep well at nights.


There is that to consider as well. Next time I install fresh might be a 
better time to play with labels! :) Ric




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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Joe wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote:
  Joe wrote:
   It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as
   a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame
   it.
  
  Excuse me?  Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1?  How is that even
  working at all?  That is completely wrong.  Something is wrong with
  your dhcp server configuration.

 Such as? What in terms of DHCP configuration determines what source IP
 address is used by dhcpd? DHCP is a bit special, operating on MAC
 addresses rather than IP addresses, so I suppose many clients don't
 care what IP address turns up. Windows 8 seems uncouth enough to expect
 a real IP address, or at least the same address as was used earlier.

Can you share your dhcpd.conf file?  Private mail for that would be
fine if you don't want to dump the entire thing to the list.  Here is
a complete copy of a simple dhcpd that serves my wifi network.

  # The ddns-updates-style parameter controls whether or not the server will
  # attempt to do a DNS update when a lease is confirmed. We default to the
  # behavior of the version 2 packages ('none', since DHCP v2 didn't
  # have support for DDNS.)
  ddns-update-style none;

  # option definitions common to all supported networks...
  option domain-name proulx.com;
  option domain-name-servers 192.168.230.109, 192.168.230.119;

  default-lease-time 600;
  max-lease-time 7200;

  # If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
  # network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
  authoritative;

  subnet 192.168.93.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 192.168.93.1;
range 192.168.93.100 192.168.93.254;
  }

What does your file look like?

  I am using KVM on my machines.  I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines.
  I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not
  seeing the problem you describe anywhere.  What VM software are you
  using?

 None. All bare metal stuff.

Sorry.  I confused you with the original poster who was using VMs and
dnsmasq for the dhcp server for them.  Understand now that this is a
different case and you are using bare metal.  That should make things
easier.  Sorry for the mix up.

   This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was
   being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after
   the real server IP address had been used once.
  
  Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration.  Please say
  more about it.  How is your networking set up?  Are you using a
  network bridge?
 
 No. It's a two-NIC server running DHCP for the internal network,
 linked with Bind9, fixed IPs on the NICs.

The use with BIND9 should be unrelated.  Works great.  But bind is
unrelated to dhcp.

Please install dhcpdump and then capture a trace of a dhcp exchange.
It is very useful for debugging dhcp issues.

  dhcpdump -i eth1

 Supposedly. It works fine with XP, Win7, various Debians and
 Macbooks and a Humax TV recorder. And a Raspberry Pi running Wheezy
 Raspbian. No dice with Windows 8, which of course I put down to W8
 being broken. But that machine picked up addresses perfectly well in
 other networks... What does a Windows DHCP server have that ISC
 dhcpd doesn't? Or a cheap DSL router, for that matter.

One follows the standards and the other is windows? ;-)

 When I got fed up, and W8 manual networking is a pain (who in God's
 name ever thought APIPA addresses were a good idea? The one way to
 *absolutely* *guarantee* that a computer won't operate in an existing
 network), I put a packet sniffer on it, and lo and behold, there were
 second and subsequent DHCP packets arriving with the offending source
 address, and no further discussion from the W8 end.

ROTFL!

 Remove the hosts entry, the problem goes away, and that's where I stop
 trying to fix it. I cannot imagine why an Ethernet implementation would
 ever allow a source address of the 127. persuasion to be used other
 than on lo, so I'm not about to try to debug it.

Bad route?  What is the output of this?

  ip route show

Bob


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Re: sources.list ???

2015-02-28 Thread Marcelo P. Llanos C.
Desde ecuador lo hago con el servidor kernel.org, me resultó muy rápido.


Re: jessie: Firefox download dialog unusable

2015-02-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-02-28, Felix Natter fnat...@gmx.net wrote:
 hi,

 I get an unusable download dialog in firefox (iceweasel) of current
 jessie (updated this morning):
   http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/firefox-empty-buttons2.png

 Clicking on the half-displayed buttons is a no-op.

 I can reproduce it by clicking on woodstox-core-src-V.tar.gz on
 http://wiki.fasterxml.com/WoodstoxDownload (see screenshot above).

 Freeciv-gtk[23] work fine (also gtk intensive applications).

 -- Shall I report this as a (RC?) bug against iceweasel?
 (I couldn't find anything related here:
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=iceweasel)

 Any help is much appreciated!!

 Best Regards,

What happens when you click on the bottom dialog border and drag
downwards, i.e., when you resize the dialog vertically?

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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Philippe Clérié

On 02/28/2015 03:50 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:11:31 -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:


What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?


You can start with

   https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html

and then work backwards in time.


It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts.


You'll have to be more specific.




Nothing major. Just that every so often when trying to reach a host 
being used as a DNS server with dnsmasq, I get hit with that address. 
It's just an annoyance and I was trying to understand the purpose of 
that assignment.


I've read through some of that thread you pointed to and to be honest, 
it's not at all clear what problem was being solved. I'm still not 
entirely convinced it's useful. But it's easily dealt with so... :-)



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Re: alternative to avidemux?

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore


Whew! I had to install all the things-dev and it finally completed 
successfully. Thanks!



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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 15:23 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: 
 Software there asks, who am I?  They then pass the
 IP address around.
Software doing this is simply broken.

Nothing guarantees (nor any standard demands) that the hostname actually
resolves to anything, not to talk about a valid public IP address.


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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
 Bob Proulx wrote: 
  Software there asks, who am I?  They then pass the
  IP address around.

 Software doing this is simply broken.
 
 Nothing guarantees (nor any standard demands) that the hostname actually
 resolves to anything, not to talk about a valid public IP address.

First let me say that I agree completely.  I explicitly said that in
my message.  It is completely wrong.  That doesn't change the fact
that it is often coded that way.

Second though is that there is a lot of things that are wrong with the
world.  It is often outside of your power to affect them.  In which
case you can only suck it up and work around the mess and deal with
it.

That one-sytem == one-IP model was commonly used in Unix software for
years and years.  It is still used.  The two primary problem children
that I see today are Synopsis and Cadence.  However even they don't
have the in house technical knowledge to fix their problems anymore.
I gave up trying to tilt at those windmills long ago.

The real lesson here is that people shouldn't be creating *new*
software that relies upon that buggy model.  How do we influence
people so that we don't have this problem moving forward?  The only
way I know is to avoid having that configuration as the normal
configuration.  That is yet another point in favor of using a hostname
mapped to 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts.  As the new generation grows up
with that configuration then they won't make the old bad assumptions
and won't code in that buggy operating model that causes people
problems such as I described.

BTW...  If you want to look at something you might actually be able to
fix then look at Spring RTS.  It has been a while and I will munge the
detail but last I played it that game made exactly the same assumption
of passing IP addresses around and passing a 127 to the remote for
connection.  The remote client trying to join the game gets a 127
address and can't join itself.  The two systems have to work in
cooperation with one the server and the other the client so that
remote IP addresses are passed between them.  In the right combination
of two machines it works but trying to do both on one system fails.
Since that is free(dom) licensed it is possible that someone might
actually fix it one day.

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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Sharon Kimble wrote:
 This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a
 good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically
 3.16.0-4-amd64?

How much memory do you have in your system?

If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage.  Stay with the
32-bit kernel.  If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should
definitely use a 64-bit kernel.  If the answer is between 4G and 64G
then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and
disadvantages to both.

If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there.
A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace.  It
is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit.  Not really
worth it.

Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image?

If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland.
If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits.

 And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as
 downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete
 the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel?

Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the
version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it.

  # uname -a
  Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux

  # apt-get install linux-image-amd64
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree   
  Reading state information... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64
  Suggested packages:
linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook
  The following NEW packages will be installed:
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64
  0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
  Need to get 23.4 MB of archives.
  After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used.
  Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Joe wrote:
 Brian wrote:
  Philippe Clérié wrote:
   What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?
  
  You can start with
  
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/07/msg00809.html
  
  and then work backwards in time.

Every scheme proposed and used solves one problem and creates a
different problem.  For me the 127.0.1.1 scheme solves most of the
problems and I like it the best for my random desktop and server
machines.

But it doesn't work for large CAD/EDA engineering environments that
run distributed processing.  Basically the classic legacy Unix
environment where IP addresses and hostnames are uniquely
interchangeable.  Software there asks, who am I?  They then pass the
IP address around.  When that is 127.0.1.1 things are not happy.  In
that type of environment it must be set to the host-external LAN IP
address.  It is basically a poor assumption on the software's part but
a lot of EDA/CAD code has been written that way.  Most of the time it
is easier to work around than to try to convince some company you are
paying six figures a license for to fix it.

But that doesn't work when the system is a multi-homed server with
multiple IP addresses.  Because no single IP address works on each of
the attached networks.

There is no single scheme that works for everyone.

   It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static
   hosts.
  
  You'll have to be more specific.
 
 It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as
 a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame
 it.

Excuse me?  Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1?  How is that even
working at all?  That is completely wrong.  Something is wrong with
your dhcp server configuration.

I am using KVM on my machines.  I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines.
I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not
seeing the problem you describe anywhere.  What VM software are you
using?

 This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was
 being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after
 the real server IP address had been used once.

Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration.  Please say
more about it.  How is your networking set up?  Are you using a
network bridge?

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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Linux-Fan
On 02/28/2015 11:25 PM, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
 My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system.  It has 6G of memory and 750G
 hard drive.  Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32
 bit.  I am using weezy.
 Moe

I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process
is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data
compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM).

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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:23:10 -0700
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 Joe wrote:

  
  It doesn't work with Windows 8, which refuses to accept 127.0.1.1 as
  a valid DHCP server IP address, and to be honest I can't say I blame
  it.
 
 Excuse me?  Why is your DHCP server using 127.0.1.1?  How is that even
 working at all?  That is completely wrong.  Something is wrong with
 your dhcp server configuration.
 
Such as? What in terms of DHCP configuration determines what source IP
address is used by dhcpd? DHCP is a bit special, operating on MAC
addresses rather than IP addresses, so I suppose many clients don't
care what IP address turns up. Windows 8 seems uncouth enough to expect
a real IP address, or at least the same address as was used earlier.

 I am using KVM on my machines.  I am using 127.0.1.1 on my machines.
 I use the ISC DHCP server as well as the dnsmasq server and I am not
 seeing the problem you describe anywhere.  What VM software are you
 using?
 
None. All bare metal stuff.

  This is with Bind9 and the ISC DHCP server. And yes, 127.0.1.1 was
  being used as a source IP address during the DHCP negotiation, after
  the real server IP address had been used once.
 
 Something is wrong with your dhcp server configuration.  Please say
 more about it.  How is your networking set up?  Are you using a
 network bridge?

No. It's a two-NIC server running DHCP for the internal network,
linked with Bind9, fixed IPs on the NICs. Supposedly. It works fine with
XP, Win7, various Debians and Macbooks and a Humax TV recorder. And a
Raspberry Pi running Wheezy Raspbian. No dice with Windows 8, which of
course I put down to W8 being broken. But that machine picked up
addresses perfectly well in other networks... What does a Windows DHCP
server have that ISC dhcpd doesn't? Or a cheap DSL router, for that
matter.

When I got fed up, and W8 manual networking is a pain (who in God's
name ever thought APIPA addresses were a good idea? The one way to
*absolutely* *guarantee* that a computer won't operate in an existing
network), I put a packet sniffer on it, and lo and behold, there were
second and subsequent DHCP packets arriving with the offending source
address, and no further discussion from the W8 end.

Remove the hosts entry, the problem goes away, and that's where I stop
trying to fix it. I cannot imagine why an Ethernet implementation would
ever allow a source address of the 127. persuasion to be used other
than on lo, so I'm not about to try to debug it.

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Re: Can't get past authenticity of host popup with ssh

2015-02-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Ross Boylan wrote:
 I can ssh from machine A to B as user ross on both, using key-based
 login.  ssh-agent is running under KDE on A.  A is Debian wheezy, B is
 Debian squeeze.

 However, when I do the following sequence on A:
 sux  # change to root with X credentials
 ssh -i /home/ross/.ssh/id_rsa ross@B

 A window pops up with the message The authenticity of host 'xxx'
 can't be established.
 RSA key fingerprint is YYY.
 Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
 The title is OpenSSH Authentication Passphrase Request and it has 2
 buttons, OK and Cancel.
 When I click OK I get a message, in my original terminal,
 Host key verification failed.

I think there must be a problem/confusion in there surrounding the
$HOME at that time.  I suggest double checking $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts
for every possible value of $HOME that you can postulate.  Maybe that
will turn up something.

 Clicking cancel doesn't change the result.  Operating in a shell from
 which I have unset DISPLAY and the SSH_AGENT variables doesn't change
 the result (there's no popup, just an immediate verification failure).

Try it with the idea that $HOME isn't correctly as expected.  Using
the command 'printenv HOME' can be useful because it avoids $HOME
being expanded by the shell and will expand the actual value of it at
that later time just like the real program.

 I would be very grateful if anyone could explain what's going and what
 I can do to get past this.  I have checked permissions of the relevant
 files for ross and root on A, and they appear to be in order.  On A,
 root's .ssh/ has only a known_hosts file.

You are using sux which I never use.  I am unfamiliar with the details
and the details are what is needed to understand what is happening.

If you sux a terminal (xterm or other) instead of an ssh what do you
get for $HOME?  In that terminal if you ssh to the remote host what do
you get?  (Unset DISPLAY to avoid the dialog and force in terminal
errors if you get one.)  I would also check and possibly unset
SSH_ASKPASS too.

I suspect that when you sux a terminal something will be different
from what you expect.

 I have never encountered this popup before; I have only seen the Are
 you sure you want to continue connecting in the same terminal from
 which I ran ssh, and I can reply on the command line.  I don't know
 where the popup is coming from.

It sounds to me like this popup is part of KDE.  I have seen both KDE
and GNOME try to encapsulate ssh like this before.

 My speculation is that because of the popup all my responses are taken
 as No for continuing connecting.

 I have to run as root for sshuttle.

If you sux a terminal then you will be root.  Then use that shell to
understand what is happening.

Personally I would simply su or sudo in a regular terminal.  I don't
see a need to use sux for this.  But each to their own.  However you
might try that in this case in order to probe the edges of the box.

  su - (or sudo -s, or sudo su -, or whatever)
  ssh ...

 By using su instead of sux I eliminated the popup and got past the
 host verification.  Now that root on A has B in the known_hosts file I
 can connect from the sux session as well.

Oh!  I see you got past this but it took me so long to reply that I
decided to leave the above in my mail anyway.

 I still do not understand where the popup came from and why it didn't
 work.  Here's some more info on what ssh was doing during the failed
 connection:
 
 debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
 debug1: Server host key: RSA 14:d2:cd:ea:d3:a0:82:5b:25:b8:8d:00:ad:c5:54:68
 debug1: checking without port identifier
 debug1: read_passphrase: can't open /dev/tty: No such device or address
 debug1: permanently_drop_suid: 0
 Host key verification failed.
 
 I think the popup happened after the last debug line above.

If the host key verification failed then it is because of one of the
host key files /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts or $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts
doesn't contain the current key or doesn't match the current key.  You
likely do not have /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts therefore I suspect that
$HOME isn't what you think it is at that moment due to sux setting it
different from what you expect.

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Re: Consulta tiempo de actualización squeeze a wheezy

2015-02-28 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:55:22 -0300, Darío escribió:

 Buenas a todas y todos, estoy por actualizar squeeze a wheezy estable,
 mi cuestión es por el tiempo en que tarda.

Recuerda que wheezy va a pasar a ser versión olstable en pocos días/
semanas, no se si habrás considerado instalar jessie directamente.

 Los pasos que seguí fueron:
 1ro. cambiar squeeze por wheezy en sources.list 
 2do. aptitude update
 3ro. aptitude upgrade 

Con un upgrade no sé si podrá hacerlo bien, necesitarás un dist-
upgrade o full-upgrade para que todas las dependencias y 
conflictos se resuelvan correctamente.

 Acá es cuando dice Resolviendo las dependencias...
 abierto: cerrado: diferido: cofllictos y diferentes valores para cada
 uno son bastantes, pero la cuestión es que cuando llega a los 20
 casos entre cerrado y abierto, comienza a colgarse y desaparece la
 pantalla, probé con aptitude full-upgrade y lo mismo tarda demasiado y
 se cuelga, no sé si es normal y tendré que esperar solamente pero la
 pantalla se oscurece como cuando debe ahorrar energía (es una notebook
 Asus).

La pantalla se puede oscurecer por varios motivos, peor vamos, que 
las instrucciones para actualizar de una versión a otra las tienes 
aquí:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html

 ¿Existe alguna otra forma de hacer este proceso?

Es mejor que inicies el procedimiento de actualización desde una 
sesión SIN entorno gráfico.

 Otra cosa que intenté fue directamente actualizar, cuando aparece el
 notificador de actualizaciones disponibles, elijo la opción Instalar
 actualizaciones y comienza a descargar, pero no sé si esta forma es
 recomendable.

El notificador de actualizaciones sólo actualiza paquetes a su 
versión más actual, no lo uses para actualizar de una versión 
a otra.

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FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror

2015-02-28 Thread Epsilon Minus
Buenas,

Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el
sistema híbrido.

Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos
parámetros para que funcione.

¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el
trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo

Gracias!


Re: FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror

2015-02-28 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:05:03 -0300, Epsilon Minus escribió:

 Buenas,

Ese html...
 
 Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el
 sistema híbrido.

No sé a qué te refieres con sistema híbrido (?).

 Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos
 parámetros para que funcione.

Pues como no seas un poco más claro con las características del servidor, 
poco te voy a poder decir.

 ¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el
 trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo

No me he enterado de mucho pero sí te puedo decir que LVM no es un 
sistema RAID (!) son dos cosas distintas.

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Re: Password y seguridad

2015-02-28 Thread Camaleón
El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 16:33, Edward Villarroel (EDD)
edward.villarr...@gmail.com escribió:

(recuperado por filtro)

 El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 11:01, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:39:21 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 El día 26 de febrero de 2015, 10:36, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 (...)

 usando base64 podria cifrar el password lo que no quiero es que queden
 en claro hay otra alternativa a base64?

 Base64 no es un sistema de cifrado, ni mucho menos, así que
 sinceramente no sé lo que buscas.

 tapar el password del codigo se se vea una cosa... si lo leen que no se
 vea cual es

 Usa cifrado, dentro o fuera del código, es que no veo otra opción.

 okey que opcion de sifrado sabes?

Según el lenguaje de programación/aplicación la función de cifrado te
permitirá varias opciones, las más comunes son DES, AES, MD5,
Blowfish, SHAxxx, etc...

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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote:

Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):

I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian 7.8
installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that, like
Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file manager,
show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a partition, to show
its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as the partition
identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that has no relevance
or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8 installation iso image, rescue
mode, list of partitions, from which to select, to install the root
system.


I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.)
You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents
of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.



Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric




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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting Charles Blair (c-bl...@illinois.edu):
I have been recently noticing that the find
 command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
 output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?
 
libreoffice seems to be using a lot of space, and
 I only use it to read .doc files other people send me.
 I don't use the spreadsheet or database features.
 Is some reduced-functionality version available?
 
 Filesystem   1K-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted on
 rootfs  330215  189549123617  61% /
 udev 10240   0 10240   0% /dev
 tmpfs   400736 696400040   1% /run
 /dev/disk/by-uuid/0923b264-e330215  189549123617  61% /
 tmpfs 5120   0  5120   0% /run/lock
 tmpfs  2457480  76   2457404   1% /run/shm
 /dev/sda10   176581224 1423588 166187808   1% /home
 /dev/sda9   376807   10270347081   3% /tmp
 /dev/sda6  8649992 5967084   2243512  73% /usr
 /dev/sda7  2882592  495636   2240524  19% /var

Tricky to answer without knowing what sort of functionality/package
mix you have. On my own wheezy box (X and fvwm, no desktop), /usr
looks like:

   8700M /usr/
290M /usr/bin/
  1M /usr/games/
 17M /usr/include/
   1884M /usr/lib/
  1M /usr/local/
 12M /usr/sbin/
   6388M /usr/share/
112M /usr/src/

Delving in, we find (sorted by size):

 67M /usr/lib/gcc
 76M /usr/lib/iceweasel
 81M /usr/lib/python2.6
 84M /usr/lib/python2.7
 93M /usr/lib/jvm
154M /usr/lib/chromium
324M /usr/lib/libreoffice
504M /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
   1884M /usr/lib

 31M /usr/share/libreoffice
 33M /usr/share/man
 33M /usr/share/midi
 39M /usr/share/inkscape
 44M /usr/share/help
 47M /usr/share/java
 52M /usr/share/gimp
 59M /usr/share/pyshared
 65M /usr/share/emacs
101M /usr/share/icons
102M /usr/share/fonts
151M /usr/share/texmf
153M /usr/share/sounds
317M /usr/share/locale
337M /usr/share/openclipart
619M /usr/share/texlive
   1579M /usr/share/openclipart2
   2217M /usr/share/doc
   6388M /usr/share

The culprits in doc are texlive and lilypond which are two of the most
important systems for me. I've already filed a bug against the sizes
of the files in openclipart; if space were short, I would get rid of
openclipart2 too because I think most of it is on the web.

I only use / and /home partitions, so I create 32G root partitions nowadays.
That leaves plenty of room for anything up to 10G of
/var/cache/apt-cacher-ng on whichever box I run it on.
Laptops a little less. The above generated with

function duse {
local DIR=$(realpath ${1:-.})
( for j in $(find $DIR -maxdepth ${2:-1} -type d) ; do
  du --si -s -BM $j ; done ) | sort -k 2 | expand | sed -e 
's/\([0-9.M]*\)\( *\)/\2\1 \2\2\2\2/'
}

and | sort -h as appropriate.

Cheers,
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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Joe
On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:21:23 -0600
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):
  I also note that (after taking about an hour, to remove the Debian
  7.8 installer iso removable media disk from the computer, that,
  like Ubuntu, the Debian 7.6 LXDE LiveCD does not, using the file
  manager, show Properties for partitions, and, in opening a
  partition, to show its contents, whows at the top of the tab, as
  the partition identifier, a string about 32 characters long, that
  has no relevance or application, to the Debian Linux 7.8
  installation iso image, rescue mode, list of partitions, from which
  to select, to install the root system.
 
 I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
 the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
 created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
 unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that
 reason.) You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the
 contents of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.
 

The /sbin/blkid command is also useful.

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hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Philippe Clérié

What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?

It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts.

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Re: sources.list ???

2015-02-28 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:43:56 -0500, JAWV WV escribió:

 Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para
 latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para
 sources.list?

Pues seguramente alguno de EE.UU. En España nos pasa igual, los mejores 
servidores de actualización son los europeos :-)

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Re: FakeRaid vs LVM Mirror

2015-02-28 Thread Epsilon Minus
  Adquirí un equipo IBM x3100 m4, no trae controladora de RAID 1. trae el
  sistema híbrido.

 No sé a qué te refieres con sistema híbrido (?).

 Sistema hibrido son tambien llamados FakeRaid, Se configura Raid por
Bios pero lo administra el SO (por eso hibrido) son mucho màs
economicos que una controladora de RAID.

  Debian no lo reconoce, estuve leyendo que hay que especificar algunos
  parámetros para que funcione.

 Pues como no seas un poco más claro con las características del servidor,
 poco te voy a poder decir.

 Es un servidor que trae la posibilidad de establecer Raid por bios,
pero no trae controladora. No es plenamente un Raid por Hardware. No
se con que otro nombre se lo conoce, en ingles se lo llamo mucho
FakeRaid.

  ¿que opinan? Mejor realizar un Raid mirror a traves de LVM o tomarse el
  trabajo de usar el sistema híbrido que trae el equipo

 No me he enterado de mucho pero sí te puedo decir que LVM no es un
 sistema RAID (!) son dos cosas distintas.

LVM no es un sistema de RAID, es sistema de administracion de Discos y
espacio. Si lo que se puede hacer con LVM es hacer mirror entre
Volumenes logicos. Todo por software, administrado desde el mismo
Linux.


Mi duda es si alguno tiene experiencia en estos sistemas de Raid
hibridos / fakeraids / raid por bios (como quieran llamarle), no es lo
más recomendable, lo ideal es usar una controladora de Raid. Mi
pregunta era alguno tenia experiencia en espejar volumenes logicos a
traves de LVM

o tienen alguna otra herramienta para Raid por software en caliente
que valga la pena investigar.  No se si aclara..



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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:

 I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
 the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
 created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
 unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.)
 You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents
 of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.
 
 Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric

Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :)


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote:

 On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
 
  I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
  the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
  created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
  unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.)
  You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents
  of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.
  
  Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric
 
 Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :)

Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching
someone struggle. :)

e2label(8).


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote:

On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 19:23:58 +, Brian wrote:


On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 14:18:33 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:


I'm having a job parsing this sentence, but are you referring here to
the partitions' UUIDs? These are chosen at random when partitions are
created and it helps to make a note of them as they are entirely
unmemorable. (I use LABELs everywhere that's possible for that reason.)
You can see these UUIDs in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and in the contents
of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.


Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric


Yes. Inquiring minds will easily discover how to, :)


Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching
someone struggle. :)

e2label(8).
I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man page. 
I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric




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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:

 On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote:
 
 Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching
 someone struggle. :)
 
 e2label(8).

 I often trust the opinion of our hive-mind more than I do a man
 page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric

Very understandable. I do not think adding LABEL to your system would
particularly give you anything which do not have already.

I use it with USB sticks which move from machine to machine, The UUID
may change but the LABEL doesn't. Debian always boots.

Having said that, I do not think labelling with e2label would cause
your system to go into blow up mode and the UUID is is still there.
Changing means trusting my judgement. Ignoring the advice means you
can sleep well at nights.


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Re: Is my disk too crowded ?

2015-02-28 Thread Brian
On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 09:11:01 -0600, Charles Blair wrote:

I have been recently noticing that the find
 command is taking a long time, and my /usr (see df
 output below) is 73% full.  Should I do something?

Yes; quantify for us what you mean by a long time. Prefacing the
command with time and giving us the output would be a start.


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Re: sources.list ???

2015-02-28 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus
 El Sat, 28 Feb 2015 01:43:56 -0500, JAWV WV escribió:

 Buenas es una pregunta simple que mirror es más eficiente para
 latinoamerica . ¿cual es la configuración más adecuada para
 sources.list?

Latinoamérica es enorme, seguramente habrá muchos espejos por ahí
repartidos. Pese a ello quizá los de EU sean la mejor opción. En
México tenemos el del IGEOF que funciona bastante bien, al menos a mi
que estoy geográficamente muy cerca. Habrá que probar con lo que
sugiere Manolo.

Suerte.


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Re: hosts file entry for 127.0.1.1

2015-02-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-02-28, Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net wrote:
 What is the rationale for the /etc/hosts entry for 127.0.1.1?

 It tends to be annoying when using dnsmasq as a server for static hosts.


It is used when the host uses DHCP to obtain an IP address. One places
an entry in /etc/hosts so that the host name is mapped to 127.0.1.1.
Some X applications complain when the host name cannot be resolved.

If your server has a static IP, then you would instead map that IP to
the host name in the same file.

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Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden

2015-02-28 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 28-02-15 om 14:29 schreef Dirk Ruijne:
 Beste mensen,
 
 Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er
 vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet.
 Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer.
 Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld
 op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord
 met 32-bit

Dat heeft vooral met de videokaart te maken. Blijkbaar werkt 3D niet.

De MSI B85M-P33 is voor vierde generatie Intel processoren, de
ingebouwde grafische kaart wordt niet goed ondersteund in Debian 7, en
er zijn ook wel wat andere problemen. Het werkt echter wel.

Je zult wat verbeteringen zien als je de kernel uit backports gebruikt,
maar eigenlijk werkt het pas goed met Debian 8 (Jessie, nog niet
officieel uit), omdat daar nieuwe Xorg drivers in zitten e.d.

 Wat is nu het probleem?
 Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt
 het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als
 gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik
 zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde.

Ik heb heel wat computers ingericht met Debian 7 maar ben dit probleem
nog niet tegen gekomen. Welke videokaart gebruik je?
Je kunt daar achter komen met dit commando: lspci | grep VGA

En werk je met een opensource driver, of met een closed-source driver?

Was het probleem er al vanaf de installatie, of is het pas wat later
ontstaan?

Groet,
Paul.




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Re: Zwart scherm na gebruikerwisselen of Afmelden

2015-02-28 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 02:29:59PM +0100, Dirk Ruijne wrote:
 Beste mensen,
 
 Gisteren heb ik mijn moederbord vervangen voor de MSI B85M-P33 en er
 vervolgens Debian 7.8 64-bit op gezet.
 Ik heb een beeldscherm van Compaq TFT5010 van 15 jaar oud of meer.
 Gnome functioneerde niet (volledig) en dus is automatisch overgeschakeld
 op de Gnome 3.4.2. fallback. Dit had ik ook bij mijn eerdere moederbord
 met 32-bit
 
 Wat is nu het probleem?
 Wanneer ik de computer uitschakel wordt het scherm direct zwart en duurt
 het lang voordat de computer daadwerkelijke uit gaat. Als ik mij als
 gebruiker afmeld; ook een zwart scherm, de computer blijft aan, maar ik
 zie niets. Als ik van gebruiker wissel: hetzelfde.
 
 Opstarten gaat daarentegen prima.
 
 Hoe los ik dit op?

Begin met te onderzoeken of de computer/video nog een signaal verstuurt
of dat de monitor het verstuurde signaal niet meer begrijpt.

Beide doe je door een andere (en nieuwer) beeldscherm aan te sluiten.


 Met vriendelijke groeten,
 
 Dirk Ruijne


Groeten
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Re: File transfer

2015-02-28 Thread Joe
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:48:25 -0500
Maureen L Thomas silverorbspin...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 If I understand you correctly then I only back up data, not the
 system. You have an excellent point and although I have never, so far
 at least, had a large problem losing my system or data I do see the
 advantage to doing just what you have said.  I will be buying the
 book you suggested and hopefully get through enough to do a back up
 of the new system before I actually go on line with it.

In the meantime, a little light relief:

http://www.taobackup.com/

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[OT] Network Manager

2015-02-28 Thread Pablo
Estoy lidiando con la necesidad de hacer algunas cosas en network manager
que generalmente las hacia a mano tocando interface y  me andaban. Por
ejemplo aca necesito si o si usar network manager por que si meto mano al
archivo interface el demonio de network manager me hace pelota lo tocado a
mano. Entonces ahi va la consulta, alguien uso alguna ves network manager
para habilitar por ejemplo que una interface de red levante con la opcion
de allow-hotplug?



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Re: File transfer

2015-02-28 Thread David Christensen

On 02/28/2015 07:07 AM, David Wright wrote:

I don't know how to have a look around.  If everything looks good,
proceed with using the computer. Not a clue.


I call that the smoke test -- boot, log in, start some terminals, run 
some commands, start some applications, play some games, start the file 
manager, browse the file system, browse the network, play some music and 
videos, surf the web, log in via SSH from another machine, reboot, log 
in again, etc., looking for malfunctions.  It's an informal, 
non-repeatable, quick and dirty spot failure test.  Most imaging 
problems will cause a smoke test failure, but passing doesn't prove 
correctness.



Ideally, there would be a complete system regression test to verify 
correctness, and each user would run that from their desktop.  Please 
let me know if you find one.




OTOH having generated an md5sum of the backup, why not just pipe a
repeat dd into md5sum and see if they match. If you must be thorough,
then wipe and restore the system and dd | md5sum again.


You're right that it's probably more correct to feed the dd input to 
md5sum, rather than the output.  I assume dd will throw an error message 
if the copying fails.  I use USB flash drives for system drives, they 
are larger than my RAM, and therefore my kernel buffer cache doesn't 
contain all the blocks after dd runs.  So, I md5sum the output because 
it's on a hard drive and takes less time.




Another small point; by do a fresh install, do you mean repeat your
restoration? Or install afresh, ie from scratch?


fresh install = install afresh = install from scratch


If the restored image fails to work correctly, there are at least the 
following possibilities:


1.  Hardware failure.

2.  System drive contained the flaws when imaged.

3.  Imaging process failed.

4.  Image restoration process failed.

If #1 is the case, the machine should fail the smoke test after wiping 
and re-installing.  If I fix and verify the hardware, restoring a good 
image should give me a working system.



That leaves #2-4, which I assume were caused by operator error.  So, I 
try again (wipe, install, smoke test, image, restore, smoke test) and 
pay more attention.




An unrelated question is how often do you do all this, and how do you
age your image. By age I mean how long do you treat it as a valid
image because your live system is evolving from the moment you start
reusing it after imaging it.


I take system drive images after installation, prior to deployment, 
infrequently (3~6 months), prior to making big scary changes, after 
making big scary changes, and whenever else I feel the need.



Aging isn't too big of a deal, because of Approx -- most or all of the 
updates since imaging should be local, so restoring, updating, and 
upgrading is fast.




Myself, I prefer to archive (original and modified) copies of any
system files I change, any configuration commands I've used, package
lists, non-Debian debs etc. and re-install from scratch.


I save downloads on the file server.  I keep a system administration 
journal, a package list, and any configuration files I modify under 
version control (CVS).  After re-install, I check out the old 
configuration files to a scratch directory and do the edits manually. 
(I've played with scripting certain common post-install chores, with 
limited success.)




(We're going off topic...)


Thank you for bringing me to the point of my backup digression:

You transfer your files from an old machine to a new machine by
backing up your files on the old machine and restoring them on the
new machine.


David


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-28 Thread David Wright
Quoting Ric Moore (wayward4...@gmail.com):
 On 02/28/2015 10:21 AM, David Wright wrote:
 of /run/udev/data/b8:... Also see man tune2fs.
 
 Can a label be created after?? Inquiring minds want to know. :) Ric

And AFAICT you have to label a swapfile with mkswap because,
unless you avoid it, the debian installer's partitioner doesn't
set a label itself.

Cheers,
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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Marc Auslander
I did exactly that several years ago with no problem.

I installed an amd64 kernel at which point grub knew about both.
Changed default boot to the new kernel and ran for a while.  Once all
was well I uninstalled the pae kernel.

I did it mostly because I expect that amd64 is the dominant kernel in
the future.

Although I haven't needed to, I believe I could add 64 bits as a
foreign architecture if I wanted to run a 64 bit process.

What appears to be too hard to contemplate is changing the base
process architecture to 64 bits.


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Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Maureen L Thomas

Thank you I will use the 64 bit one.  Thanks again.
Moe

On 02/28/2015 05:51 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Linux-Fan wrote:

Maureen L Thomas wrote:

My new toshiba is a 64 bit amd system.  It has 6G of memory and 750G
hard drive.  Is the 64 bit system better or should I install the 32
bit.  I am using weezy.

I recommend you to install the 64 bit version so that a single process
is able to address more than two GiB of RAM (can be useful with data
compression like 7z and other software which can make use a lot of RAM).

Agreed.  6G and a pristine new system install then I would install an
amd64 64-bit system.

Actually even with 4G I usually install 64-bit anyway just for
consistency with the new direction everything is moving.  But as you
can see I do still have 32-bit systems and I am not converting them to
64-bit as a conversion.

Bob



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Re: In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name

2015-02-28 Thread Ric Moore

On 03/01/2015 12:55 AM, Csányi Pál wrote:

Hi,

I'm compiling a custom kernel for my Debian Wheezy operating system.

In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter
the file name.
The cursor blinking in the field but can't enter any letter.

How can I solve this problem?


Are you root user? You might need root privs to change system things. :) Ric


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Re: Exim4

2015-02-28 Thread Zuthos Oddy

citation de=Nicolas ROCHE

 ça ne marche jamais du premier coup pour moi
 en vrac, tu regardes avec les commandes suivantes les problèmes à résoudre
 :

Merci pour ton aide.
Voici les résultats des commandes. Malheureusement, je ne sais pas trop
quoi en faire.

 # tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog

tail /var/log/exim4/mainlog
2015-03-01 07:02:37 Start queue run: pid=2466
2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YRWi4-0006wV-U6 Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YREjf-0005bn-Tj Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:02:37 1YRtAq-0006TC-76 Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:02:37 End queue run: pid=2466
2015-03-01 07:32:37 Start queue run: pid=4054
2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YRWi4-0006wV-U6 Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YREjf-0005bn-Tj Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:32:37 1YRtAq-0006TC-76 Message is frozen
2015-03-01 07:32:37 End queue run: pid=4054



 $ exim4 -bt nicolas

exim4 -bt nicolas
R: smarthost for nicolas@bureau
nicolas@bureau
  router = smarthost, transport = remote_smtp_smarthost
  host smtp.orange.fr [193.252.22.64]
  host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10]



 $ exim4 -d -bt nicolas

exim4 -d -bt nicolas
Exim version 4.80 uid=0 gid=0 pid=4381 D=fbb95cfd
Berkeley DB: Berkeley DB 5.1.29: (October 25, 2011)
Support for: crypteq iconv() IPv6 PAM Perl Expand_dlfunc GnuTLS
move_frozen_messages Content_Scanning DKIM Old_Demime
Lookups (built-in): lsearch wildlsearch nwildlsearch iplsearch cdb dbm
dbmjz dbmnz dnsdb dsearch ldap ldapdn ldapm mysql nis nis0 passwd pgsql
sqlite
Authenticators: cram_md5 cyrus_sasl dovecot plaintext spa
Routers: accept dnslookup ipliteral iplookup manualroute queryprogram
redirect
Transports: appendfile/maildir/mailstore/mbx autoreply lmtp pipe smtp
Fixed never_users: 0
Size of off_t: 8
Compiler: GCC [4.7.2]
Library version: GnuTLS: Compile: 2.12.20
 Runtime: 2.12.20
Library version: Cyrus SASL: Compile: 2.1.25
 Runtime: 2.1.25 [Cyrus SASL]
Library version: PCRE: Compile: 8.30
   Runtime: 8.30 2012-02-04
Total 19 lookups
Library version: MySQL: Compile: 5.5.37 [(Debian)]
Runtime: 5.5.41
Library version: SQLite: Compile: 3.7.13
 Runtime: 3.7.13
WHITELIST_D_MACROS: OUTGOING
TRUSTED_CONFIG_LIST: /etc/exim4/trusted_configs
changed uid/gid: forcing real = effective
  uid=0 gid=0 pid=4381
  auxiliary group list: none
seeking password data for user uucp: cache not available
getpwnam() succeeded uid=10 gid=10
changed uid/gid: calling tls_validate_require_cipher
  uid=102 gid=104 pid=4382
  auxiliary group list: none
tls_validate_require_cipher child 4382 ended: status=0x0
configuration file is /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated
log selectors = 0ffc 00612001
trusted user
admin user
seeking password data for user mail: cache not available
getpwnam() succeeded uid=8 gid=8
user name root extracted from gecos field root
originator: uid=0 gid=0 login=root name=root
sender address = root@bureau
Address testing: uid=0 gid=104 euid=0 egid=104

Testing nicolas@bureau

Considering nicolas@bureau

routing nicolas@bureau
 hubbed_hosts router 
local_part=nicolas domain=bureau
checking domains
search_open: lsearch /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
  key=bureau partial=2 affix=*. starflags=0
LRU list:
  :/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
  End
internal_search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
  type=lsearch key=bureau
file lookup required for bureau
  in /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
lookup failed
trying partial match *.bureau
internal_search_find: file=/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
  type=lsearch key=*.bureau
file lookup required for *.bureau
  in /etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts
lookup failed
bureau in partial-lsearch;/etc/exim4/hubbed_hosts? no (end of list)
hubbed_hosts router skipped: domains mismatch
 smarthost router 
local_part=nicolas domain=bureau
checking domains
bureau in @:localhost? no (end of list)
bureau in ! +local_domains? yes (end of list)
R: smarthost for nicolas@bureau
calling smarthost router
smarthost router called for nicolas@bureau
  domain = bureau
route_item = * smtp.orange.fr byname
bureau in *? yes (matched *)
original list of hosts = smtp.orange.fr options = byname
expanded list of hosts = smtp.orange.fr options = byname
set transport remote_smtp_smarthost
finding IP address for smtp.orange.fr
calling host_find_byname
gethostbyname2(af=inet6) returned 4 (NO_DATA)
fully qualified name = smtp.orange.fr
gethostbyname2 looked up these IP addresses:
  name=smtp.orange.fr address=80.12.242.10
  name=smtp.orange.fr address=193.252.22.64
queued for remote_smtp_smarthost transport: local_part = nicolas
domain = bureau
  errors_to=NULL
  domain_data=NULL localpart_data=NULL
routed by smarthost router
  envelope to: nicolas@bureau
  transport: remote_smtp_smarthost
  host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10]
  host smtp.orange.fr [193.252.22.64]
nicolas@bureau
  router = smarthost, transport = remote_smtp_smarthost
  host smtp.orange.fr [80.12.242.10]
  host 

Re: Moving from a 686-pae kernel to amd64?

2015-02-28 Thread Sharon Kimble
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes:

 Sharon Kimble wrote:
 This setup is currently running a 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel. Is it a
 good idea to convert to a 64bit kernel, specifically
 3.16.0-4-amd64?

 How much memory do you have in your system?

4G actual, 3.84g useable. 

 If the answer is 4G or less then there is no advantage.  Stay with the
 32-bit kernel.  If the answer is 64G or more then yes you should
 definitely use a 64-bit kernel.  If the answer is between 4G and 64G
 then the answer is it depends and there are advantages and
 disadvantages to both.

 If you currently have a 32-bit system then I recommend staying there.
 A 64-bit kernel won't have much advantage for a 32-bit userspace.  It
 is rather a pain to change from 32-bit userland to 64-bit.  Not really
 worth it.

 Is your web browser exceeding 3G of ram image?

No, but I do have 2 browsers open for a project I'm working on. 

 If the answer is yes then you should re-install to a 64-bit userland.
 If the answer is no then stick with 32-bits.

 And if it is a good idea, how do I do it? Is it as simple as
 downloading the 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel, reboot to it, and delete
 the 3.16.0-4-686-pae kernel?

 Simply install the linux-image-amd64 metapackage, let it drag in the
 version numbered kernel, and then reboot to it.

Thanks, that's what I thought, but I wanted to check first. 

   # uname -a
   Linux joseki 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux

   # apt-get install linux-image-amd64
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree   
   Reading state information... Done
   The following extra packages will be installed:
 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64
   Suggested packages:
 linux-doc-3.2 debian-kernel-handbook
   The following NEW packages will be installed:
 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-image-amd64
   0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
   Need to get 23.4 MB of archives.
   After this operation, 105 MB of additional disk space will be used.
   Do you want to continue [Y/n]?

 Bob

Thanks very much, very useful. :)

Sharon.
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In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter the file name

2015-02-28 Thread Csányi Pál
Hi,

I'm compiling a custom kernel for my Debian Wheezy operating system.

In menuconfig when Load an Alternate Configuration File, can't enter
the file name.
The cursor blinking in the field but can't enter any letter.

How can I solve this problem?

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LibreOffice: les touches mortes ont disparu

2015-02-28 Thread Patrick Carabin
Bonsoir la liste,
 
   Il vient de m' arriver une blague curieuse:
Dans LibreOffice, les touches mortes ( pour les accents circonflexe, grave, 
aigu 
et le tréma ) ne fonctionnent plus. Elles fonctionnent bien dans Kmail, dans 
un terminal,... partout où j' ai essayé, SAUF dans LibreOffice, où ne marchent 
que les accents dédiés en 1 touche ( éàùè ).
 
   J' ai recherché dans les paquets installés, n' ai rien trouvé d' anormal, 
j' ai fait une mise à jour des paquets, ça perdure... La seule chose un peu 
spéciale c'est que j'ai suivi la recommandation ( lors d' une mise à jour d' 
installer hunspell )
 
Avez-vous une idée, une proposition?
 
   Je vous en remercie à l'avance
 
Patrick Carabin.

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