Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:


snip


 In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for
 System - Settings - Details - Overview, it has

 
 Processor: Intel Core i-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8
 Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
 

 and, for

 System - Settings - Details - Graphics, it has

 
 Driver: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
 Experience: Fallback
 


I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;

from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have


Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)


and the external monitor does not work with either Debian 7 or Ubuntu 14.04LTS.

So, whilst the Ubuntu web site shows the CPU to be certified as
compatible  - at
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/

it appears to me, that both Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, do not
really have an adequate driver for that CPU (Processor: AMD E2-6110
APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4), as they both can not drive an
external monitor through it.




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I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Paul E Condon
I have installed various releases of debian many times. I have a local
proxy using approx that makes it very fast.

After posting about a lockup of my desktop Jessie computer, I realized
that whatever advice I got would I got would surely be more
complicated than just reinstalling from a backup that had been made
shortly after 5am yesterday morning using a CD of netinst rc2 that I
made shortly after it was announced. It is now 15min past midnight
local time.

I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;;
upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it
would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This install behaves very
differently in the following way: When I attempt to ssh into one of
the computers that was not re-installed, I get a complaint that:

@@@
@   WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!  @
@@@
The RSA host key for gq has changed,
and the key for the corresponding IP address 192.168.1.12
is unknown. This could either mean that
DNS SPOOFING is happening or the IP address for the host
and its host key have changed at the same time.
@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that a host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
51:cf:52:87:6f:13:43:50:73:29:2c:b4:34:11:cd:5c.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/pec/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending RSA key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts:3
  remove with: ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts -R gq
RSA host key for gq has changed and you have requested strict checking.
Host key verification failed.

I get this same complaint even after I remove the known_hosts file
entirely. How can the software retain the information that the offending
line is the third line? It must be doing more than the documentation
that I have says its doing, This is a home lan. I use a hosts file to
inform the several computers of the IP addresses of all the computers in
the LAN. The file is identical on all computers and hasn't changed sine
etch. In the past, I was given the option of typing the login password of the
computer that I want to log into, but not now.

I know about openssh-known-hosts. I think it has changed from last I used
it. Now there are plugins that have to be configured. I want to use the
rsync plugin because I know rsync rather well, but what is the procedure
for plugging a plugin into openssh-known-hosts? I can't find a man page.

I don't understand what I should do with the RSA 'fingerprint' doesn't
look at all like a legitimate line in a known_host file. How is it used?

Where is the source of this occult knowledge?

Why does the author of the WARNING presume that there is a different
person, other than the person reading the message who is the actual
'your system administration'? Has someone in NSA or CIA been assigned
to monitor me, and this message breaches global security because I
should not be allowed to know that I am being watch?

Help, please. Tell me what to read.
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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800
Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 snip
 
 
  In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for
  System - Settings - Details - Overview, it has
 
  
  Processor: Intel Core i-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8
  Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
  
 
  and, for
 
  System - Settings - Details - Graphics, it has
 
  
  Driver: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
  Experience: Fallback
  
 
 
 I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
 14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
 being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;
 
 from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have
 
 
 Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
 Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
 
 
 and the external monitor does not work with either Debian 7 or Ubuntu
 14.04LTS.
 
 So, whilst the Ubuntu web site shows the CPU to be certified as
 compatible  - at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/
 
 it appears to me, that both Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, do not
 really have an adequate driver for that CPU (Processor: AMD E2-6110
 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4), as they both can not drive an
 external monitor through it.

I *seriously* doubt that the CPU has anything to do with it. It will
either run x86 code (ie Debian/Ubuntu) or it won't. This is more likely
a problem with the GPU driver, or the way X is set up.

What output do you get from xrandr when you have booted the machine
with the monitor connected?

Petter

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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread David Christensen

On 04/15/2015 08:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

I finally found enough of a round tuit to burn the cd and try it.
Seatools found and tested all 3 drives, no hits no runs no errors. ...
1. DONT leave your cell phone plugged in ...
2. that solved  rebooted, with one of the 2T's in the sdb slot, gparted
said it had NO partition table! ...
So, progress from the WV version of Lake Woebegone. :)


It's good to hear that your hardware seems okay and you are making 
progress.  Please let us know what you find next.



David


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 15/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

snip


 On the Acer E5-521-238Q, which does not have Ubuntu installed, I have,
 for Debian 7,

 
 root@debian-Acer-E5-521:/# grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver'
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 [25.144] (II) Module ati: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [25.144]  compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 6.14.99
 [25.144]  Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 --
 [25.187] (II) Module radeon: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [25.188]  compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 6.14.99
 [25.188]  Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 --
 [25.196] (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [25.196]  compiled for 1.12.1, module version = 2.3.1
 [25.196]  Module class: X.Org Video Driver
 

 and

 
 root@debian-Acer-E5-521:/# lspci | grep -i vga
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee
 ATI Device 9852
 

 and

 
 root@debian-Acer-E5-521:/# lspci
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1566
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee
 ATI Device 9852
 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 9840
 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 156b
 00:02.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor
 Functions 5:1
 00:02.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 16h Processor
 Functions 5:1
 00:08.0 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1537
 00:10.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB XHCI
 Controller (rev 11)
 00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH SATA
 Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
 00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB EHCI
 Controller (rev 39)
 00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH USB EHCI
 Controller (rev 39)
 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 42)
 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia
 Controller (rev 02)
 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 11)
 00:14.7 SD Host controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH SD Flash
 Controller (rev 01)
 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1580
 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1581
 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1582
 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1583
 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1584
 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 1585
 01:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 Device 5287 (rev 01)
 01:00.1 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 12)
 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9565
 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
 

 and, from the lshw output,

 
  *-pci:0
   description: Host bridge
   product: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
   physical id: 100
   bus info: pci@:00:00.0
   version: 00
   width: 32 bits
   clock: 33MHz
 *-display UNCLAIMED
  description: VGA compatible controller
  product: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
  vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
  physical id: 1
  bus info: pci@:00:01.0
  version: 00
  width: 64 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master
 cap_list
  configuration: latency=0
  resources: memory:e000-efff
 memory:f000-f07f ioport:3000(size=256)
 memory:f0c0-f0c3 memory:f0c8-f0c9
 


And now, having installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the Acer E5-521-238Q
system, from Ubuntu, I have


bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver'
/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[26.899] (II) Module ati: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[26.899]compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 7.3.0
[26.899]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
[27.023] (II) Module radeon: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[27.023]compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 7.3.0
[27.023]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
[27.050] (II) Module modesetting: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[27.050]compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.8.1
[27.050]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
[27.083] (II) Module fbdev: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[27.083]compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 0.4.4
[27.083]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
[27.117] (II) Module vesa: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[27.117]compiled for 1.15.0, module version = 2.3.3
[27.117]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
[27.119] (II) Module ati: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[27.119]compiled for 1.15.1, module version = 7.3.0
[27.119]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800
 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:


 snip

 
  In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for
  System - Settings - Details - Overview, it has
 
  
  Processor: Intel Core i-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8
  Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
  
 
  and, for
 
  System - Settings - Details - Graphics, it has
 
  
  Driver: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
  Experience: Fallback
  
 

 I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
 14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
 being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;

 from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have

 
 Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
 Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
 

 and the external monitor does not work with either Debian 7 or Ubuntu
 14.04LTS.

 So, whilst the Ubuntu web site shows the CPU to be certified as
 compatible  - at
 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/

 it appears to me, that both Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, do not
 really have an adequate driver for that CPU (Processor: AMD E2-6110
 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4), as they both can not drive an
 external monitor through it.

 I *seriously* doubt that the CPU has anything to do with it. It will
 either run x86 code (ie Debian/Ubuntu) or it won't. This is more likely
 a problem with the GPU driver, or the way X is set up.

 What output do you get from xrandr when you have booted the machine
 with the monitor connected?


In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS;


bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 768
default connected primary 1366x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1366x768   76.0*


In Debian 7;


bret@debian-Acer-E5-521:~$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768
default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1366x7680.0
   1368x7680.0*




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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:11:03 +0800
Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 and, on this computer, as mentioned in a previous message, neither
 Debian 7, nor Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, can get the external monitor going, as
 neother seem to have an appropriate driver for the
 AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics × 4
 CPU .

You don't need a driver as such for a CPU, at most there are
microcode updates.

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Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-16 Thread roger

Hej

Det är 9 stycken som har svarat på formuläret och resultatet är 
följande:

Göteborg5   55.6%
Varberg 4   44.4%
Halmstad3   33.3%
Other   2   22.2%

11 April0   0%
12 April0   0%
18 April4   44.4%
19 April4   44.4%
25 April7   77.8%
26 April5   55.6%
2 Maj   3   33.3%
3 Maj   2   22.2%
Other   0   0%

Så Göteborg den 25:e April verkar vara bäst.

Om ingen har nån annan idé på aktivitet så föreslår jag att vi träffas 
på lämplig plats och tid (runt 17 på centralen ifall folk kommer med 
tåg? Ni som kommer med tåg kan ju kolla upp vilka tider som skulle passa 
er så kan vi anpassa oss efter det.) och sen drar och äter på någon typ 
av resturang och snackar GNU/Linux och har trevligt.
Eventuellt key-signing med om någon debian utvecklare kunde detta 
datumet.


Mvh
Roger


On 2015-04-08 22:53, ro...@steneteg.org wrote:

Hej

Det är hittils 8 som svarat på formuläret (såvida ingen fuskat och
svarat flera gånger).

Som det ser ut nu så är det lika mellan Göteborg och Varberg. Jag bor
ju i Göteborg så är ju inte helt opartisk i frågan men Göteborg är ju
större så finns ju antagligen mer att göra här än i Varberg.

När det gäller datumet så leder 25:e april.

Har bara fått in ett aktivitetsförlag och det var öl, så lite fler
förslag skulle ju vara uppskattat här. Nån som varit på denna typ av
möten tidigare som har erfarenhet av vad man kan hitta på?

Går ju alltid träffas, käka på nån resturang och snacka Linux.

Mvh
Roger

On 2015-04-05 15:34, Rolf Edlund wrote:

Den 2015-04-05 12:08, Andreas Ronnquist skrev:


Ifyllt. Jag kan den 25:e och några andra datum - Angående 11:e tycker
jag ju att det skulle kännas lite märkligt att fira utgåvan innan den
verkligen har hänt ... :)


Ok, om det är det som mötet ska handla om, så håller jag helt med dig. 
;)


Och angående plats så är det väl mest logiskt att välja platsen där 
vi

kan minimera antalet som måste resa långt - och med det i åtanke så
lutar det ju mot Göteborg...


Som sagt. Det funkar för mig.


Också - angående det - jag kör, så jag kan ordna samåkning om det
skulle bli norrut (Jag bor ju i Halmstad, och kan skulle exempelvis
kunna plocka upp folk på vägen till Göteborg så vi kan dela på
resekostnader).


Har du plats för lilla mig, så åker jag gärna med dig. Så länge dagen
för mötet funkar för mig.


(Jag toppostar eftersom jag svarar på en toppostning)


( Jag gör något mitt emellan :)

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Re: samba issue

2015-04-16 Thread Pol Hallen

I had a similar problem with samba (on jessie), but under slightly
different conditions. Under full load
the interface went down and it took several minutes to retrieve
connectivity.


hello and thanks for your reply :-)

I've same problem also if I set low bandwidth

my server has 3 different ethernet NICs, so I can exclude a driver 
problems...



Btw: I wouldn't specify any socket options unless you're having
performance problems. Under normal conditions the parameters are
automatically adjusted and manually tuning these parameters might worsen
you're performance (see man smb.conf).


ok thanks!

Pol


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Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël

Grégory Reinbold a écrit :

'soir,


'jour


Par exemple sur mon laptop (Thinkpad X201) FreeBSD 11 offre des
performances qui n'ont rien à voir avec une Debian 8, même si à la base
la config a été plus longue, au final je dispose des mêmes outils que
sous Debian avec un gain de performance non négligeable (et dans la
foulée je n'ai pas à me plier à systemd qui est imposé à l'installation
de Debian, mais c'est un autre débat).


	Même observation. Un Acer Aspire 1700 de plus de dix avec un Pentium4 à 
2,4 GHz (un seul coeur) et 2 Go de mémoire (et un disque ATA de 120 Go) 
est bien plus réactif sous FreeBSD (parce que Linux traînait ou se 
vautrait selon les versions) que mon Xeon quatre coeurs qui tourne à 
2,66 GHz et qui a deux fois plus de mémoire (avec des disques SAS). Et 
je fais exactement la même chose dessus.


	Je ne parle même pas de NetBSD qui est certainement encore un cran au 
dessus en terme de portabilité et d'efficacité, mais qui est bien plus 
austère.



Si tu te sens mieux avec Debian c'est que tu as trouvé ce qu'il te fallait.

Si Tito pense trouver son bonheur sur FreeBSD il a très certainement ses
raisons et il est le bienvenu (que ça te plaise ou non).

Si tu penses que FreeBSD te fait revenir 15 ans en arrière c'est que
c'est pas fait pour toi et que tu ne t'ai certainement pas pris la peine
de l'exploiter autant que ta Deb.

FreeBSD n'est pas le meilleur système et Debian non plus.
D'ailleurs le meilleur système ne veut rien dire, c'est relatif, tout
dépend de ce qu'on en fait, de ses besoins.

Pour finir je rejoins Tito sur la déception que Debian kFreeBSD soit
abandonné car FreeBSD et Debian sont d'excellents systèmes et je me fais
une joie quotidienne de travailler avec.


	Idem. Un port debian sur un noyau BSD avait deux intérêts. D'une part 
utiliser un noyau non linux et utiliser une libc standard sans toutes 
les GNUeries. C'était un gage de portabilité des logiciels. J'aurais 
même aimé un port sur L4 (L4/Linux ou L4/quelque chose), mais je conçois 
que ce genre d'utilisation est réservée à des spécialistes.


Cordialement,

JKB

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Re: variable globale d'environnement

2015-04-16 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour,

Le mercredi 15 avril 2015 à 22:24, humbert.olivie...@free.fr a écrit :
 À partir de là, si je redémarre, et que j'arrive sous MATE, j'ai ces 2 choses
 : - avec le ALT-CTRL-F1 (c'est TTY1 ça, il me semble), alors env |grep
 MA_VARIABLE me montre bien que ma variable est propagée ici. Pas de soucis.
 - si je lance un mate-terminal depuis MATE, le même env |grep MA_VARIABLE
 ne me retourne rien.  Je trouve ça étrange puisque de mon point de vue, les
 définitions dans /etc/profile devraient s'appliquer partout.  Ceci dit, j'ai
 lu sur les différentes doc que ça n'est pas aussi simple.

Ce comportement s'explique (comme indiqué dans la précédente réponse) par la
distinction entre shell de connexion (quand tu es en TTY) et shell « classique »
(non-login). Dans le cas du terminal MATE, ce n'est pas un shell de connexion,
il ne lit donc pas ce fichier.

 Du coup, j'ai essayé de placer MA_VARIABLE dans /etc/environment puisque en 
 censé lightdm lit ce fichier [4].
 Marche pas non plus, même cas qu'au dessus.

De mon expérience empirique sur le sujet, le fichier « /etc/environment » n'est
pas pris en compte par tous les environnements de bureau. XFCE le prend en
compte, FluxBox sûrement aussi. Par contre, les environnements de bureau qui
fournissent leur propre méthode de configuration (si je voulais être provocant
je dirais « inspirée du registre Windows »), notamment KDE et GNOME - et donc
MATE - semblent avoir une fâcheuse tendance à ignorer les mécanismes standards
(fichier « /etc/environment », fichier « $HOME/.Xresources », fichier
« $HOME/.Xmodmap »).

Si quelqu'un a une expérience plus poussée que la mienne (car j'ai préféré fuir
ces environnements non-respectueux des standards au profit des autres) et sait
comment mettre en place ce genre de chose sur ce type d'environnement, merci de
la partager.

 Puis j'ai placé dans /etc/bash.bashrc :
  MA_VARIABLE=ma_valeur.
  export MA_VARIABLE
 Et là, ça fonctionne.

Oui, ça fonctionne, mais uniquement dans un terminal. Ton environnement X ne
récupère donc pas cette variable.

Attention également, ça ne fonctionnera pas pour les utilisateurs qui
utiliseraient un autre shell que Bash.

 Ceci étant, je suis bien nu su cette question car je ne sais pas comment
 vérifier si mon environnement de bureau (MATE) connaît cette variable ou pas.
 La logique où j'en suis arrivé me dit que non.

J'ai une méthode à te proposer.

Tu installes « MPD » et tu modifies « bind_to_address » dans son fichier de conf
(« /etc/mpd.conf ») pour y mettre l'adresse IP de la carte réseau de la machine
(n'oublie pas de redémarrer le service une fois la configuration modifiée).

Tu installes un client MPD qui prend en compte la variable d'environnement
« MPD_HOST » (à qui tu donnes comme valeur l'adresse IP de ta machine).

Tu lances le client MPD. Si il arrive à se connecter, alors ta variable
d'environnement a été prise en compte. Sinon, elle a été ignorée.

Sébastien

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Re: Checksum controle tijdens installeren package

2015-04-16 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 15-04-15 om 19:49 schreef Jan Claeys:
 Paul van der Vlis schreef op di 07-04-2015 om 13:47 [+0200]:
 
 [...]
 Het lijkt me ook behoorlijk zinloos eigenlijk. Stel je download zo'n
 package en de bron is niet veilig, dan is daar vast ook die checksum
 aangepast lijkt me.

 Is er hier iemand die meer weet?
 
 Daarvoor is er de GPG-ondertekening...
 
 Zie https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt voor meer uitleg.

Bedankt voor de link!

Ben het aan het bestuderen maar vind het nog niet heel simpel te vatten.

Groet,
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Re: HS_Re: Debian 8 bientôt publiée !

2015-04-16 Thread Frédéric MASSOT
Le 15/04/2015 11:54, maderios a écrit :
 On 04/15/2015 11:27 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 On 2015-04-14 21:00:32 +0200, maderios wrote:
 Ton lien concerne Systemctl et non le noyau lui-même.
 Systemd ne change rien concernant la verbosité du noyau lors du boot.
 Avec
 systemd, je n'ai constaté aucun changement par rapport à Sysvinit.

 Il n'y a pas que le noyau qui affiche des messages, mais aussi les
 services qui sont lancés.

 Sauf erreur de ma part, le noyau affiche les messages concernant les
 services.

Dans une installation par défaut les messages du noyau sont masqués, il
n'apparait que les messages des services.

Avant, il y avait le paquet bootlogd pour enregistrer les messages du
noyau dans les fichiers de log, maintenant systemd le fait tout seul.

Pour afficher les messages du noyau lors du boot, c'est au niveau de la
config de grub que ça ce passe. Dans le fichier /etc/default/grub à la
ligne GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT il faut enlever le mot quiet et faire
un update-grub.

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:21:46 +0800
Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
  On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800
  Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  snip
 
  
   In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for
   System - Settings - Details - Overview, it has
  
   
   Processor: Intel Core i-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8
   Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
   
  
   and, for
  
   System - Settings - Details - Graphics, it has
  
   
   Driver: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
   Experience: Fallback
   
  
 
  I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
  14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
  being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;
 
  from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have
 
  
  Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
  Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
  
 
  and the external monitor does not work with either Debian 7 or
  Ubuntu 14.04LTS.
 
  So, whilst the Ubuntu web site shows the CPU to be certified as
  compatible  - at
  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/
 
  it appears to me, that both Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, do not
  really have an adequate driver for that CPU (Processor: AMD
  E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4), as they both can not
  drive an external monitor through it.
 
  I *seriously* doubt that the CPU has anything to do with it. It will
  either run x86 code (ie Debian/Ubuntu) or it won't. This is more
  likely a problem with the GPU driver, or the way X is set up.
 
  What output do you get from xrandr when you have booted the
  machine with the monitor connected?
 
 
 In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS;
 
 
 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ xrandr
 xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
 Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 768
 default connected primary 1366x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1366x768   76.0*
 
 
 In Debian 7;
 
 
 bret@debian-Acer-E5-521:~$ xrandr
 xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
 Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768
 default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1366x7680.0
1368x7680.0*
 

So X can only see one screen. I take it this is a laptop, and the
screen X sees here is the internal screen? How is the other screen
connected - HDMI, DVI, D-SUB, DP? I will see if I can get the time
later today to read through all your previous messages on this and see
what the outputs you have posted can tell me, right now the only thing
I can think of is to try the AMD fglrx driver if you haven't already.

If the GPU in your machine is a newer model, that might help. I would
suggest you do a web search on the GPU model number, radeon and
second display (all in one string), and see what you come up with -
maybe the problem is a common one.

Petter

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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Gary Dale

On 16/04/15 03:00 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:

I have installed various releases of debian many times. I have a local
proxy using approx that makes it very fast.

After posting about a lockup of my desktop Jessie computer, I realized
that whatever advice I got would I got would surely be more
complicated than just reinstalling from a backup that had been made
shortly after 5am yesterday morning using a CD of netinst rc2 that I
made shortly after it was announced. It is now 15min past midnight
local time.

I have four desktop machines running Jessie. I try to keep them a;;
upgraded on whenever new package versions are released. I thought it
would be fast and simple. I was very wrong. This install behaves very
differently in the following way: When I attempt to ssh into one of
the computers that was not re-installed, I get a complaint that:

@@@
@   WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!  @
@@@
The RSA host key for gq has changed,
and the key for the corresponding IP address 192.168.1.12
is unknown. This could either mean that
DNS SPOOFING is happening or the IP address for the host
and its host key have changed at the same time.
@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)!
It is also possible that a host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
51:cf:52:87:6f:13:43:50:73:29:2c:b4:34:11:cd:5c.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/pec/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
Offending RSA key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts:3
   remove with: ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts -R gq
RSA host key for gq has changed and you have requested strict checking.
Host key verification failed.

I get this same complaint even after I remove the known_hosts file
entirely. How can the software retain the information that the offending
line is the third line? It must be doing more than the documentation
that I have says its doing, This is a home lan. I use a hosts file to
inform the several computers of the IP addresses of all the computers in
the LAN. The file is identical on all computers and hasn't changed sine
etch. In the past, I was given the option of typing the login password of the
computer that I want to log into, but not now.

I know about openssh-known-hosts. I think it has changed from last I used
it. Now there are plugins that have to be configured. I want to use the
rsync plugin because I know rsync rather well, but what is the procedure
for plugging a plugin into openssh-known-hosts? I can't find a man page.

I don't understand what I should do with the RSA 'fingerprint' doesn't
look at all like a legitimate line in a known_host file. How is it used?

Where is the source of this occult knowledge?

Why does the author of the WARNING presume that there is a different
person, other than the person reading the message who is the actual
'your system administration'? Has someone in NSA or CIA been assigned
to monitor me, and this message breaches global security because I
should not be allowed to know that I am being watch?

Help, please. Tell me what to read.
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From my experience you get this error any time the IP address changes. 
If you are using DHCP, which most people do for workstations, this can 
crop up intermittently. Do what it says and Add correct host key in 
/home/pec/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.



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Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-16 Thread BERTRAND Joël

maderios a écrit :

On 04/16/2015 10:06 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Grégory Reinbold a écrit :

'soir,


 'jour


Par exemple sur mon laptop (Thinkpad X201) FreeBSD 11 offre des
performances qui n'ont rien à voir avec une Debian 8, même si à la base
la config a été plus longue, au final je dispose des mêmes outils que
sous Debian avec un gain de performance non négligeable (et dans la
foulée je n'ai pas à me plier à systemd qui est imposé à l'installation
de Debian, mais c'est un autre débat).


 Même observation. Un Acer Aspire 1700 de plus de dix avec un
Pentium4 à 2,4 GHz (un seul coeur) et 2 Go de mémoire (et un disque ATA
de 120 Go) est bien plus réactif sous FreeBSD (parce que Linux traînait
ou se vautrait selon les versions) que mon Xeon quatre coeurs qui tourne
à 2,66 GHz et qui a deux fois plus de mémoire (avec des disques SAS). Et
je fais exactement la même chose dessus.

 Je ne parle même pas de NetBSD qui est certainement encore un cran
au dessus en terme de portabilité et d'efficacité, mais qui est bien
plus austère.

Bonjour
Je crains fort que cette efficacité dont feraient preuve les BSD par
rapport aux Linux, dont Debian,  soit surtout une conséquence du
dépouillement des systèmes BSD installés.


	Euh... Non. Mêmes configurations des deux côtés. Machine de bureau avec 
les comptes des utilisateurs en NFS (v3) et bureau Windowmaker. 
Libreoffice, knoda, seamonkey et tous les outils habituels (et daemons : 
ntp, nfs, cpufreq/powerd...). J'essaie dans la mesure du possible de ne 
pas comparer des pommes avec des poires.


JKB

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KDE wallet keys

2015-04-16 Thread Gary Dale
I just installed Jessie/AMD64 on a refurbished laptop I acquired. Now I 
have to configure KDE wallet following its advice to use key-based 
authentication. I'm wondering what's the best practice for this?


Can anyone point me to a good how to on KDE wallet for laptops. Also, is 
there a method for sharing a wallet with a desktop?



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Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-16 Thread maderios

On 04/16/2015 01:37 PM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

maderios a écrit :

On 04/16/2015 10:06 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Grégory Reinbold a écrit :

'soir,


 'jour


Par exemple sur mon laptop (Thinkpad X201) FreeBSD 11 offre des
performances qui n'ont rien à voir avec une Debian 8, même si à la base
la config a été plus longue, au final je dispose des mêmes outils que
sous Debian avec un gain de performance non négligeable (et dans la
foulée je n'ai pas à me plier à systemd qui est imposé à l'installation
de Debian, mais c'est un autre débat).


 Même observation. Un Acer Aspire 1700 de plus de dix avec un
Pentium4 à 2,4 GHz (un seul coeur) et 2 Go de mémoire (et un disque ATA
de 120 Go) est bien plus réactif sous FreeBSD (parce que Linux traînait
ou se vautrait selon les versions) que mon Xeon quatre coeurs qui tourne
à 2,66 GHz et qui a deux fois plus de mémoire (avec des disques SAS). Et
je fais exactement la même chose dessus.

 Je ne parle même pas de NetBSD qui est certainement encore un cran
au dessus en terme de portabilité et d'efficacité, mais qui est bien
plus austère.

Bonjour
Je crains fort que cette efficacité dont feraient preuve les BSD par
rapport aux Linux, dont Debian,  soit surtout une conséquence du
dépouillement des systèmes BSD installés.


 Euh... Non. Mêmes configurations des deux côtés. Machine de bureau
avec les comptes des utilisateurs en NFS (v3) et bureau Windowmaker.
Libreoffice, knoda, seamonkey et tous les outils habituels (et daemons :
ntp, nfs, cpufreq/powerd...). J'essaie dans la mesure du possible de ne
pas comparer des pommes avec des poires.

Ce peut être une question de configuration des noyaux. Personnellement, 
j'ai toujours compilé mes noyaux, non pour le principe de snober les 
noyaux officiels Debian mais parce que mes machines ont toujours été 
plus performantes avec un noyau maison compilé aux petits oignons, donc 
adapté à mes besoins (dont le real-time).
Les BSD peuvent sembler séduisants mais leur principal handicap, c'est 
la mauvaise prise en charge des matériels relativement récents. Je n'ai 
pas d'idées arrêtées sur le sujet, je retenterai peut-être un jour 
l'expérience...


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Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux

2015-04-16 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le mercredi 15 avril 2015, 22:36:59 Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
[…]
 Doit y avoir un truc qui m'échappe parce que je ne vois
 toujours pas en quoi ça serait à l'appli de gérer ça.
 Quand on passe en mode tablette pour moi c'est au système à
 mettre ce qu'il faut à disposition pour que l'on puisse
 saisir des données.

1. Soit le clavier physique reste : comment sait-on que 
l’utilisateur veut utiliser un clavier virtuel ?
  → C’est à l’utilisateur de le lancer/montrer/cacher.

2. (Je pense que c’est le cas ici.) Soit il n’y a plus de 
clavier physique (on l’enlève).

  Alors :
  a.  Qui lance un clavier virtuel ?

  b.  Et doit-il rester en place (et bouffer de l’espace pour 
rien dans 90% des cas) ou apparaître seulement quand on en a 
besoin ?

  c.  Et s’il doit apparaître seulement quand on en a besoin (on 
touche un champ textuel p.ex.), qui le fait 
apparaître/disparaître ?

  
  D’après toi, à chaque fois (?), la réponse serait : le 
« système ».
  Mais c’est qui/quoi ce « système » ?


  Sur une tablette Android (p.ex., mais c’est pareil sur toutes 
les plates-formes embarquées ou contraignantes), toutes les 
applications utilisent la même base, l’API fournie, celle qui 
cause à la pile applicative qui n’a qu’un seul tronc (noyau → 
système graphique → bibliothèques android). Donc, effectivement, 
c’est android (le « système ») qui fait le boulot puisque tout 
est fourni et obligatoire.

  Sur un PC plus polyvalent, la pile est multi-branche : une 
application peut attaquer le matériel (pour savoir si oui ou non 
il y a un clavier ou pour afficher des trucs à l’écran) plus ou 
moins directement, via le noyau, la libc, et diverses autres 
bibliothèques et services. Elle n’est pas obligée de passer par 
une unique API.
  Donc qui a le niveau de connaissance suffisante pour prendre 
les responsabilités ?

  … pour a. (qui lance le clavier virtuel ?) X11 gère les 
claviers donc sait s’il y en a un réel ou pas mais ce n’est pas 
à lui de gérer la session de l’utilisateur, donc ce serait 
plutôt au gestionnaire de fenêtre ou de bureau de le faire.

  … pour c. (qui le montre/cache suivant le focus ?) Là, il faut 
que ce soit l’application parce que c’est la seule à savoir 
lequel de ses composants a le focus et si ce composant a besoin 
d’un clavier (le gestionnaire de fenêtres ne sait que quelle 
application/fenêtre a le focus et X11 ne sait pas grand-chose). 
Bien sûr, des bibliothèques peuvent aider à gérer tout ça (Qt, 
GTK…) et pourraient même utiliser des protocoles standard (dbus 
/ Freedesktop.org¹) pour savoir quelle application lancer, s’il 
y a déjà un clavier ou pas, ou pour le cacher/montrer.

¹ Et il ne semble pas qu’il en existe. Pour le moment, tous les 
claviers visuels/virtuels sont plus prévus pour l’accessibilité, 
et toujours présents ou à la demande (expresse, via icône dans 
un coin), que pour le tactile…

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:21:46 +0800
 Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16/04/2015, Petter Adsen pet...@synth.no wrote:
  On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:46:46 +0800
  Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 14/04/2015, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  snip
 
  
   In the Debian 7 installation on the Acer V3-772G, for
   System - Settings - Details - Overview, it has
  
   
   Processor: Intel Core i-4702MQ CPU @ 2.20GHz x 8
   Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
   
  
   and, for
  
   System - Settings - Details - Graphics, it has
  
   
   Driver: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
   Experience: Fallback
   
  
 
  I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
  14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
  being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;
 
  from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have
 
  
  Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
  Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
  
 
  and the external monitor does not work with either Debian 7 or
  Ubuntu 14.04LTS.
 
  So, whilst the Ubuntu web site shows the CPU to be certified as
  compatible  - at
  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/
 
  it appears to me, that both Debian 7 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, do not
  really have an adequate driver for that CPU (Processor: AMD
  E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4), as they both can not
  drive an external monitor through it.
 
  I *seriously* doubt that the CPU has anything to do with it. It will
  either run x86 code (ie Debian/Ubuntu) or it won't. This is more
  likely a problem with the GPU driver, or the way X is set up.
 
  What output do you get from xrandr when you have booted the
  machine with the monitor connected?
 

 In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS;

 
 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$ xrandr
 xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
 Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 768
 default connected primary 1366x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1366x768   76.0*
 

 In Debian 7;

 
 bret@debian-Acer-E5-521:~$ xrandr
 xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
 Screen 0: minimum 1366 x 768, current 1368 x 768, maximum 1368 x 768
 default connected 1368x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
1366x7680.0
1368x7680.0*
 

 So X can only see one screen. I take it this is a laptop, and the
 screen X sees here is the internal screen? How is the other screen
 connected - HDMI, DVI, D-SUB, DP? I will see if I can get the time
 later today to read through all your previous messages on this and see
 what the outputs you have posted can tell me, right now the only thing
 I can think of is to try the AMD fglrx driver if you haven't already.

 If the GPU in your machine is a newer model, that might help. I would
 suggest you do a web search on the GPU model number, radeon and
 second display (all in one string), and see what you come up with -
 maybe the problem is a common one.

 Petter

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screen. The external monitor is a Dell ST2310, connected via HDMI.


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Re: bifurcation_Re: HS_Re: Debian Kfreebsd

2015-04-16 Thread maderios

On 04/16/2015 10:06 AM, BERTRAND Joël wrote:

Grégory Reinbold a écrit :

'soir,


 'jour


Par exemple sur mon laptop (Thinkpad X201) FreeBSD 11 offre des
performances qui n'ont rien à voir avec une Debian 8, même si à la base
la config a été plus longue, au final je dispose des mêmes outils que
sous Debian avec un gain de performance non négligeable (et dans la
foulée je n'ai pas à me plier à systemd qui est imposé à l'installation
de Debian, mais c'est un autre débat).


 Même observation. Un Acer Aspire 1700 de plus de dix avec un
Pentium4 à 2,4 GHz (un seul coeur) et 2 Go de mémoire (et un disque ATA
de 120 Go) est bien plus réactif sous FreeBSD (parce que Linux traînait
ou se vautrait selon les versions) que mon Xeon quatre coeurs qui tourne
à 2,66 GHz et qui a deux fois plus de mémoire (avec des disques SAS). Et
je fais exactement la même chose dessus.

 Je ne parle même pas de NetBSD qui est certainement encore un cran
au dessus en terme de portabilité et d'efficacité, mais qui est bien
plus austère.

Bonjour
Je crains fort que cette efficacité dont feraient preuve les BSD par 
rapport aux Linux, dont Debian,  soit surtout une conséquence du 
dépouillement des systèmes BSD installés.
Peu de services démarrés, peu de modules chargés, peu de logiciels 
installés et l'affaire est jouée... On peut faire la même chose avec 
Debian, une des distributions  qui minimise le plus le nombre de 
dépendances. Le seul système qui creuse par lui-même la différence 
concernant l'efficacité, c'est Gentoo où l'on compile tout de A à Z 
sur sa machine, où l'on peut virer les dépendances inutiles sans casser 
le système. Je l'ai utilisé avant de laisser tomber par manque de temps, 
c'est vraiment le top, sauf question efficacité énergétique lors de la 
compilation, donc à chaque mise à jour. Un compromis possible: mixer 
Gentoo et Sabayon (qui fournit des paquets Gentoo précompilés).

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javaws

2015-04-16 Thread lina
Hi all,

The problem raised when I tried to Launch Jalview Desktop in the
following website:

http://www.jalview.org/Help

at the top, right corner, there is Launch Jalview Desktop.

It worked very well in the past.
But today it is just not work as expected.

I tried the /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaws, it showed me that
Requesting JRE 1.7+.


I installed openjdk-8-jre from sid, but it didn't contain the javaws.


Any suggestions, thanks.


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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 April 2015 02:02:44 David Christensen wrote:
 On 04/15/2015 08:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  I finally found enough of a round tuit to burn the cd and try it.
  Seatools found and tested all 3 drives, no hits no runs no errors.
  ... 1. DONT leave your cell phone plugged in ...
  2. that solved  rebooted, with one of the 2T's in the sdb slot,
  gparted said it had NO partition table! ...
  So, progress from the WV version of Lake Woebegone. :)

 It's good to hear that your hardware seems okay and you are making
 progress.  Please let us know what you find next.


 David

With my history of mis-behaving install partitioners, you can bet the 
farm on that! ;-)

I think the last things I do before starting the install, is to rsync the 
currant /home and /opt directories to the new drive I just partitioned 
and formatted as ext4.  Then I'll have a several hour battle trying to 
expunge network-manager and making my networking Just Work(TM).

Then edit fstab to mount the LABEL = /opt drive on top of the /opt 
directory is easy.  But Jessie will have installed some things in /home 
and I am not convinced we have a mechanism/script I could apply to 
update the image of wheezy's home on the LABEL=/home partition that will 
not at that time, be mounted over the /home directory of the Jessie 
install on the other to be main boot drive.

Perhaps that might be another of rsync's talents, only updating whats 
different?  Man page study time I think.  And more caffiene, I'm a quart 
low yet...

And one other question:  Can the installer deal with a drive that has no 
partition table on it? I know for a fact that as it stands for wheezy, 
that it will not accept, even if it can see it, another partitioners 
partition tables.  It absolutely has to write its own table and nothing 
a human can concoct will ever suit it.  Frankly, debian needs to get an 
alaskan divorce from whatever its called and use gparted and be done 
with it.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread German
Hi all. What do I need to install Realtek firmware for my wireless card? Thanks

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Re: Swap?

2015-04-16 Thread Fredrik Jonson
In pfxje-5zp...@gated-at.bofh.it Rolf Edlund wrote:

  Hej Michael och Fredrik!
 
  Hoppas jag nu kan lita på er. ;)

Rolf, var lugn. Jag sover gott om natten även efter att jag delat ut detta
råd till dig. :)

  För om det är som ni säger, så kan jag helt strunta i att skippa swap.

Precis.

Efter att Intel X-25 M kom 2008 bytte jag ut alla mina roterande diskar mot
SSD och det har enbart varit en positiv upplevelse. Enda undantaget var en
tidig OCZ-disk som hade instabilt firmware, men den typen av barnsjukdomar
ska väl i stort sett vara borta vid det här laget. Även HDD:s har ju f.ö.
problem ibland, har själv upplevt krashande IBM Deathstar:s en gång i tiden.

De enda spinnande diskarna jag äger idag är usb-diskar som jag använder till
backup. De är HDD mest för att usd-ssd-diskar inte är så prisvärda. Men i
datorer är prestanda-förbättringen med SSD lätt värt varenda extra krona.

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Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread Frédéric Marchal
On Wednesday 15 April 2015 18:33:56, David Christensen wrote :
 On 04/15/2015 08:01 AM, ken wrote:
  What options or features does one get by putting the LUKS container in a
  partition rather than putting it on a raw drive?
 
 I am not aware of any technical advantages or disadvantages of LUKS on a
 raw drive vs. LUKS on a partition.  For me, it's more a matter of
 personal habit/ psychology in the face of several computers, many
 drives, and changing conditions over the years.

Having a partition table may prevent other common OSes from assuming the disk 
is uninitialized if they happen to see the disk and propose to format it or, 
worst, format it without asking for permission to do so…

Frederic


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Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-16 Thread Erik Kylin

 16 apr 2015 kl. 09:12 skrev ro...@steneteg.org mailto:ro...@steneteg.org:
 
 Hej
 
 Det är 9 stycken som har svarat på formuläret och resultatet är följande:
 Göteborg5   55.6%
 Varberg 4   44.4%
 Halmstad3   33.3%
 Other   2   22.2%
 
 11 April0   0%
 12 April0   0%
 18 April4   44.4%
 19 April4   44.4%
 25 April7   77.8%
 26 April5   55.6%
 2 Maj   3   33.3%
 3 Maj   2   22.2%
 Other   0   0%
 
 Så Göteborg den 25:e April verkar vara bäst.
 
 Om ingen har nån annan idé på aktivitet så föreslår jag att vi träffas på 
 lämplig plats och tid (runt 17 på centralen ifall folk kommer med tåg?


Jag tro vi skulle kunna ses på Göteborgs universitet, Lindholmen och få med oss 
lite Vin och öl? 
Erik



 Ni som kommer med tåg kan ju kolla upp vilka tider som skulle passa er så kan 
 vi anpassa oss efter det.) och sen drar och äter på någon typ av resturang 
 och snackar GNU/Linux och har trevligt.
 Eventuellt key-signing med om någon debian utvecklare kunde detta datumet.
 
 Mvh
 Roger
 
 
 On 2015-04-08 22:53, ro...@steneteg.org mailto:ro...@steneteg.org wrote:
 Hej
 Det är hittils 8 som svarat på formuläret (såvida ingen fuskat och
 svarat flera gånger).
 Som det ser ut nu så är det lika mellan Göteborg och Varberg. Jag bor
 ju i Göteborg så är ju inte helt opartisk i frågan men Göteborg är ju
 större så finns ju antagligen mer att göra här än i Varberg.
 När det gäller datumet så leder 25:e april.
 Har bara fått in ett aktivitetsförlag och det var öl, så lite fler
 förslag skulle ju vara uppskattat här. Nån som varit på denna typ av
 möten tidigare som har erfarenhet av vad man kan hitta på?
 Går ju alltid träffas, käka på nån resturang och snacka Linux.
 Mvh
 Roger
 On 2015-04-05 15:34, Rolf Edlund wrote:
 Den 2015-04-05 12:08, Andreas Ronnquist skrev:
 Ifyllt. Jag kan den 25:e och några andra datum - Angående 11:e tycker
 jag ju att det skulle kännas lite märkligt att fira utgåvan innan den
 verkligen har hänt ... :)
 Ok, om det är det som mötet ska handla om, så håller jag helt med dig. ;)
 Och angående plats så är det väl mest logiskt att välja platsen där vi
 kan minimera antalet som måste resa långt - och med det i åtanke så
 lutar det ju mot Göteborg...
 Som sagt. Det funkar för mig.
 Också - angående det - jag kör, så jag kan ordna samåkning om det
 skulle bli norrut (Jag bor ju i Halmstad, och kan skulle exempelvis
 kunna plocka upp folk på vägen till Göteborg så vi kan dela på
 resekostnader).
 Har du plats för lilla mig, så åker jag gärna med dig. Så länge dagen
 för mötet funkar för mig.
 (Jag toppostar eftersom jag svarar på en toppostning)
 ( Jag gör något mitt emellan :)
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Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
enable non-free repo and install firmware-realtek

2015-04-16 22:32 GMT+08:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
 Hi all. What do I need to install Realtek firmware for my wireless card? 
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Re: reading an empty directory after reboot is very slow

2015-04-16 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-15 14:19:40 -0500, David Wright wrote:
 Good to see people testing their tools.

Actually it is not a test of a tool, but a test to find for various
double-precision functions, the arguments that are the hardest to
round, in order to solve the Table Maker's Dilemma. Such values can
also be used to test libraries, as I did in the past:

  https://www.vinc17.net/research/testlibm/index.en.html

Though this is mainly related to correct rounding, I could also find
real bugs, such as:

  https://www.vinc17.net/research/testlibm/bug153548.en.html

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Consultas SNMP a Bind limitadas a 50 por rama?

2015-04-16 Thread Mauro Antivero
Estimados, estoy tratando de obtener la mayor cantidad de datos posibles 
de Bind vía SNMP para luego así poder generar distintos gráficos de 
interés. Para hacer esto seguí los pasos indicados en la siguiente página:


https://www.packetmischief.ca/monitoring-bind9/

Ya tengo los scripts funcionando y los datos se vuelcan correctamente en 
el archivo de estadísticas. También he realizado la configuración 
necesaria para poder servir dichos datos vía SNMP, para lo cual he 
agregado en el archivo /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf las siguientes líneas:


exec bind9-query-001 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
incoming_requests:query
exec bind9-query-002 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
incoming_requests:update

exec bind9-query-003 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh incoming_queries:a
...
...
exec bind9-query-106 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:udp/ipv6_send_errors
exec bind9-query-107 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:udp/ipv4_recv_errors
exec bind9-query-108 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:tcp/ipv4_recv_errors


Como ven son 108 parámetros en total los que se pueden obtener con los 
scripts en cuestión. La idea es obtener todo lo posible pero luego solo 
graficar lo que sea necesario. El problema es que cuando hago un 
snmpwalk solo obtengo los 50  primeros parámetros y no los 108 (a 
continuación resumo la salida del comando snmpwalk, en donde se ve que 
por cada parámetro hay distintas OID, pero en ningún caso se superan las 
50 respuestas):


snmpwalk -v2c -c blablabla localhost .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1

iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.49 = INTEGER: 49
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.50 = INTEGER: 50
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.1 = STRING: bind9-query-001
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.2 = STRING: bind9-query-002
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.49 = STRING: bind9-query-049
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.50 = STRING: bind9-query-050
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.1 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.2 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.49 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.50 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.2 = INTEGER: 0
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.49 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.50 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 = STRING: 40755039
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.2 = STRING: 112
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.49 = STRING: 7244253
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.50 = STRING: 196159
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.1 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.2 = INTEGER: 0
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.49 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.50 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.1 = 
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.2 = 
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.49 = 
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.50 = 

Ya consulté con el creados de los scripts y me dice que esto no debería 
pasar. Es por esto que me surge la duda, existe acaso alguna limitación 
en la configuración de SNMP que haga que no se pueda obtener más de 50 
respuestas de una misma rama? Se que no es un error del parámetro 
número 51, puesto que si elimino el 50 y pongo el 51 en su lugar obtengo 
los datos del mismo, es decir, solo obtengo los 50 primeros parámetros 
especificados en el archivo /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf.


Por cierto, en este caso el sistema es un Debian Squeeze LTS.

Les agradecería mucho cualquier comentario al respecto.

Saludos y muchas gracias,

Mauro.


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):

 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

 I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets,
 which appears on

 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/VIDEO/?page=3

 Cheers,
 David.



Now, you say that, but, Ubuntu 14.04 shows two different sets of
information, as shown in my preceding messages;




 
  I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
  14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
  being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;
 
  from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have
 
  
  Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
  Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
  
 


and, as you have mentioned above, from



bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]




and


and, from the lshw output,


 *-pci:0
  description: Host bridge
  product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
  vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
  physical id: 100
  bus info: pci@:00:00.0
  version: 00
  width: 32 bits
  clock: 33MHz
*-display UNCLAIMED
 description: VGA compatible controller
 product: Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
 physical id: 1
 bus info: pci@:00:01.0
 version: 00
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
 configuration: latency=0
 resources: memory:e000-efff
memory:f000-f07f ioport:3000(size=256)
memory:f0c0-f0c3 memory:f0c8-f0c9





So, Ubuntu shows the CPU as being both
AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
and
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

unless, an AMD E2-6110 incorporates an AMD A4-6000 with R2 Graphics

?

But, the link that you sent, links to
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/1002%3A9852/

which has


Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
with R2 Graphics] Video
The Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
with R2 Graphics] is under the Video category and is contained in the
certified systems below.



and, lists, as certified systems,


HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD
HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD


and


HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD



and the link that I have cited, for
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/

has


AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics Processor
The AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics is under
the Processor category and is contained in the certified systems
below.

HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD
HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD
HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD


So, what I deduce from this, is that the only difference between what
you have posted, and, what I had previously posted, is that you have
referred to the video component
( [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics])
of the CPU that I had specified;
(AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4)

but, however it is interpreted, my deduction that both Debian 7 and
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, appear to be lacking a(n adequate) driver for the
particular CPU (given that it involves and includes, as an integral
part, the  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
graphics controller), appears to be reasonable and valid.

I note that none of the web page URL's that you and I have cited,
appear to link to, or, mention, a driver for the particular CPU or its
incorporated graphics controller, for either Debian or Ubuntu, Linux.

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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):

 Then edit fstab to mount the LABEL = /opt drive on top of the /opt 
 directory is easy.  But Jessie will have installed some things in /home 
 and I am not convinced we have a mechanism/script I could apply to 
 update the image of wheezy's home on the LABEL=/home partition that will 
 not at that time, be mounted over the /home directory of the Jessie 
 install on the other to be main boot drive.

I can't parse this, sorry.

I can only guess that you *might* be referring to the situation where,
by accident or design, you leave a separate /home partition unmounted
while installing Debian on the root partition. On rebooting, d-i will
be found to have placed /home/first-user/{.bash_logout,.bashrc,.profile}
in / but it's a simple matter to boot single/recovery, move/remove
first-user/{.bash_logout,.bashrc,.profile} (if they offend you), and
mount your home partition on the now empty /home (adjusting fstab to suit).

If that's not the case, please ignore the above rather than
re-expounding what you really meant.

 And one other question:  Can the installer deal with a drive that has no 
 partition table on it? I know for a fact that as it stands for wheezy, 
 that it will not accept, even if it can see it, another partitioners 
 partition tables.  It absolutely has to write its own table and nothing 
 a human can concoct will ever suit it.  Frankly, debian needs to get an 
 alaskan divorce from whatever its called and use gparted and be done 
 with it.

I don't know the expression alaskan divorce. Could it be where you
walk from the divorce court straight back to the registry office to
get re-married?

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Re: Consultas SNMP a Bind limitadas a 50 por rama?

2015-04-16 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:14:32 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, estoy tratando de obtener la mayor cantidad de datos posibles
 de Bind vía SNMP para luego así poder generar distintos gráficos de
 interés. Para hacer esto seguí los pasos indicados en la siguiente
 página:
 
 https://www.packetmischief.ca/monitoring-bind9/

(...)

 Como ven son 108 parámetros en total los que se pueden obtener con los
 scripts en cuestión. La idea es obtener todo lo posible pero luego solo
 graficar lo que sea necesario. El problema es que cuando hago un
 snmpwalk solo obtengo los 50  primeros parámetros y no los 108 (a
 continuación resumo la salida del comando snmpwalk, en donde se ve que
 por cada parámetro hay distintas OID, pero en ningún caso se superan las
 50 respuestas):

(...)

 snmpwalk -v2c -c blablabla localhost .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1

(...)

 Por cierto, en este caso el sistema es un Debian Squeeze LTS.
 
 Les agradecería mucho cualquier comentario al respecto.

Parece que hay un snmpbulkwalk ¿has probado con ese comando? :-?

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Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
 Hi all. What do I need to install Realtek firmware for my wireless card? 
 Thanks

That depends on the chip within it. You might post the output of
lspci -v though only the paragraph like this should be needed:

00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 
802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
Subsystem: ZyXEL Communications Corporation Device 8225
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
I/O ports at 1000 [size=256]
Memory at f400a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
Capabilities: access denied
Kernel driver in use: ndiswrapper

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Re: Consultas SNMP a Bind limitadas a 50 por rama?

2015-04-16 Thread Manolo Díaz
El jueves, 16 abr 2015, a las 17:14 UTC+2 horas,
Mauro Antivero escribió:

Estimados, estoy tratando de obtener la mayor cantidad de datos posibles 
de Bind vía SNMP para luego así poder generar distintos gráficos de 
interés. Para hacer esto seguí los pasos indicados en la siguiente página:

https://www.packetmischief.ca/monitoring-bind9/

Ya tengo los scripts funcionando y los datos se vuelcan correctamente en 
el archivo de estadísticas. También he realizado la configuración 
necesaria para poder servir dichos datos vía SNMP, para lo cual he 
agregado en el archivo /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf las siguientes líneas:

exec bind9-query-001 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
incoming_requests:query
exec bind9-query-002 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
incoming_requests:update
exec bind9-query-003 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh incoming_queries:a
...
...
exec bind9-query-106 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:udp/ipv6_send_errors
exec bind9-query-107 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:udp/ipv4_recv_errors
exec bind9-query-108 /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh 
socket_i/o_statistics:tcp/ipv4_recv_errors

Como ven son 108 parámetros en total los que se pueden obtener con los 
scripts en cuestión. La idea es obtener todo lo posible pero luego solo 
graficar lo que sea necesario. El problema es que cuando hago un 
snmpwalk solo obtengo los 50  primeros parámetros y no los 108 (a 
continuación resumo la salida del comando snmpwalk, en donde se ve que 
por cada parámetro hay distintas OID, pero en ningún caso se superan las 
50 respuestas):

snmpwalk -v2c -c blablabla localhost .1.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1

iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.1 = INTEGER: 1
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.2 = INTEGER: 2
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.49 = INTEGER: 49
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.1.50 = INTEGER: 50
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.1 = STRING: bind9-query-001
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.2 = STRING: bind9-query-002
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.49 = STRING: bind9-query-049
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.2.50 = STRING: bind9-query-050
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.1 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.2 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.49 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.3.50 = STRING: /opt/snmp_bind/bind96-stats-get.sh
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.1 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.2 = INTEGER: 0
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.49 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.100.50 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.1 = STRING: 40755039
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.2 = STRING: 112
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.49 = STRING: 7244253
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.101.50 = STRING: 196159
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.1 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.2 = INTEGER: 0
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.49 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.102.50 = INTEGER: 0
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.1 = 
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.2 = 
.
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.49 = 
iso.3.6.1.4.1.2021.8.1.103.50 = 

Ya consulté con el creados de los scripts y me dice que esto no debería 
pasar. Es por esto que me surge la duda, existe acaso alguna limitación 
en la configuración de SNMP que haga que no se pueda obtener más de 50 
respuestas de una misma rama? Se que no es un error del parámetro 
número 51, puesto que si elimino el 50 y pongo el 51 en su lugar obtengo 
los datos del mismo, es decir, solo obtengo los 50 primeros parámetros 
especificados en el archivo /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf.

Por cierto, en este caso el sistema es un Debian Squeeze LTS.

Les agradecería mucho cualquier comentario al respecto.

Saludos y muchas gracias,

Mauro.

Hay variables de configuración que limitan la respuesta dada, pero no
recuerdo qué valores toman por omisión. ¿Has mirado el fichero de
configuración de snmp del servidor bind si limita la cantidad de
respuesta?

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Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 16 april 2015 16:43 skrev Erik Kylin e...@erikkylin.net:
 Jag tro vi skulle kunna ses på Göteborgs universitet, Lindholmen och få med
 oss lite Vin och öl?

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change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Harry Putnam
My current sources.list:


,
| deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
| deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
|  
| deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
| deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
| 
| deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
| deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
`

And a couple to keep certain wheeze software but not important for my question
(included here just for completness only)
,
| deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
| deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
| 
| deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
| deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
`

In the first three, if I just change the word `jessie' to `testing' will
that work seemlessly or lead to problems?

I'm a little loath to just test it for fear of causing immediate
problems, I mean testing beyond an `aptitude update' after changing all
occurences of `jessie' to testing.

Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
thorough test?

---   ---   ---=---   ---   ---
`aptitude update' included for more experienced eyes to check:

(Oh, and incidently, can any one tell me what the indicator `Ign' just
below Get: 4 below means I mean beyond `Ignore'?

Does it mean I need to change something in my `sources.list'?)


Get: 1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing InRelease [206 kB]
Get: 2 http://security.debian.org testing/updates InRelease [84.1 kB]
Get: 3 http://ftp.debian.org testing-updates InRelease [117 kB]
Get: 4 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates InRelease [103 kB]

Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy InRelease

Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release
Get: 5 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources [694 B]
Get: 6 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources [14 B]
Get: 7 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Sources [14 B]
Get: 8 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main i386 Packages [516 B]
Get: 9 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib i386 Packages [14 B]
Get: 10 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free i386 Packages [14 B]
Get: 11 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Translation-en [14 B]
Get: 12 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Translation-en [360 B]
Get: 13 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Translation-en [14 
B]
Get: 14 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources [168 kB]
Get: 15 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib Sources [14 B]
Get: 16 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free Sources [14 B]
Get: 17 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages [307 kB]
Get: 18 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib i386 Packages [14 B]
Get: 19 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free i386 Packages [14 B]
Get: 20 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib Translation-en [523 B]
Get: 21 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en [172 kB]
Get: 22 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free Translation-en [14 B]
Get: 23 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Get: 24 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources/DiffIndex [7,819 B]
Get: 25 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources/DiffIndex [7,819 B]
Get: 26 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Get: 27 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 
B]
Get: 28 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex 
[7,819 B]
Get: 29 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex 
[7,819 B]
Get: 30 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Get: 31 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en/DiffIndex 
[7,819 B]
Get: 32 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-09-0246.06.pdiff [2,671 B]
Get: 33 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-09-1446.56.pdiff [71 B]
Get: 34 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-10-0246.55.pdiff [1,211 B]
Get: 35 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-10-1448.56.pdiff [413 B]
Get: 36 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-11-0243.50.pdiff [2,750 B]
Get: 37 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-12-0250.40.pdiff [2,513 B]
Get: 38 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-12-1444.23.pdiff [286 B]
Get: 39 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-13-0247.33.pdiff [3,505 B]
Get: 40 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-14-0249.52.pdiff [1,181 B]
Get: 41 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main 2015-04-14-1447.10.pdiff [33 B]
Get: 

Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread Jean-Marc
Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:32:07 -0400
German gentger...@gmail.com écrivait :

 Hi all. What do I need to install Realtek firmware for my wireless card? 
 Thanks

Check what is your chip using lspci

And send back the output of:
lspci -v -s xx:xx.x (xx:xx.x = the bus:slot.function of the wifi device)

 
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Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread German
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:08:18 +0200
Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be wrote:

 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:32:07 -0400
 German gentger...@gmail.com écrivait :
 
  Hi all. What do I need to install Realtek firmware for my wireless card? 
  Thanks
 
 Check what is your chip using lspci
 
 And send back the output of:
 lspci -v -s xx:xx.x (xx:xx.x = the bus:slot.function of the wifi device)

I don't think this is important what chip I have. I think that all realtek 
firmware installs in one package. Right now I am wondering how to enable 
non-free repo in Jessi. If you could tell me this, I'd appreciate it.
 
  
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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-16, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 I don't know the expression alaskan divorce. Could it be where you
 walk from the divorce court straight back to the registry office to
 get re-married?

I'm not familiar with the expression either, but I think it refers to a
sudden, brutal separation of the kind provoked by a grizzly bear when
it takes a swipe at your head, thus disuniting the latter definitively from 
the neck.

 Cheers,
 David.




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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):
 On 16/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
  Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):
 
  bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
  00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
 
  I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets,
  which appears on
 
  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/VIDEO/?page=3

 Now, you say that, but, Ubuntu 14.04 shows two different sets of
 information, as shown in my preceding messages;
[...]
 So, what I deduce from this, is that the only difference between what
 you have posted, and, what I had previously posted, is that you have
 referred to the video component
 ( [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics])
 of the CPU that I had specified;
 (AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4)

Yes.

 but, however it is interpreted, my deduction that both Debian 7 and
 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, appear to be lacking a(n adequate) driver for the
 particular CPU (given that it involves and includes, as an integral
 part, the  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
 graphics controller), appears to be reasonable and valid.

Oh, it can be worse than that. It has been claimed that the wireless
card whose details I just posted in another thread has a kernel driver
that should handle it. It doesn't. As can be seen in the posting, I
use ndiswrapper to wrap a manufacturer's proprietary windows driver
specific to that *chip*, and have to blacklist the kernel module so
it doesn't get linked in first.

I don't know whether you will have to get a manufacturer's driver,
nor whether you'll have to blacklist whatever driver is running the
video now; what was it, Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe?
Other people on the web might.

 I note that none of the web page URL's that you and I have cited,
 appear to link to, or, mention, a driver for the particular CPU or its
 incorporated graphics controller, for either Debian or Ubuntu, Linux.

Well, if you find one, so much the better. But it would be unusual to
find a graphics chip that has only ever been used with one CPU chip.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Debian 8 release

2015-04-16 Thread jan
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 18:22:56 +0200
Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 16 april 2015 16:43 skrev Erik Kylin e...@erikkylin.net:
  Jag tro vi skulle kunna ses på Göteborgs universitet, Lindholmen
  och få med oss lite Vin och öl?
 
 Hade varit väldigt trevligt. Problemet där, att det ligger en bra bit
 från stationen, för dom som åker tåg menar jag.
 

Trevliga lokaler dock.

Har varit där på FSCONS några år. Rekommenderas varmt.
https://fscons.org/2015/


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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 12:05:54PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
 My current sources.list:
 
 
 ,
 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 |  
 | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
 | 
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
 `
 
 And a couple to keep certain wheeze software but not important for my question
 (included here just for completness only)
 ,
 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 | 
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 `
 
 In the first three, if I just change the word `jessie' to `testing' will
 that work seemlessly or lead to problems?

At the moment, stable is a pointer to wheezy, testing points to
jessie and unstable points to sid.

On the day of release, the pointers change. stable points to jessie,
testing points to stretch and unstable stays pointing to sid
(Sid is always unstable).

So, if your apt-sources mention wheezy, then you will remain on
wheezy, which will become oldstable. You will see minimal changes on
the day of release.

If your apt-sources mention stable though, then on the day of release,
your stable will become the new stable and you will be automatically
updated to jessie. (I should mention, that this automatic only means
next time you do an update).

The same SHOULD apply to other sources, too. jessie/updates and
testing/updates should be identical *at the moment*.

 
 I'm a little loath to just test it for fear of causing immediate
 problems, I mean testing beyond an `aptitude update' after changing all
 occurences of `jessie' to testing.
 
 Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
 any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
 thorough test?
 
 
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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Harry Putnam (rea...@newsguy.com):
 My current sources.list:
 
 
 ,
 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 |  
 | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
 | 
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
 `
 
 And a couple to keep certain wheeze software but not important for my question
 (included here just for completness only)
 ,
 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 | 
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 `
 
 In the first three, if I just change the word `jessie' to `testing' will
 that work seemlessly or lead to problems?
 
 I'm a little loath to just test it for fear of causing immediate
 problems, I mean testing beyond an `aptitude update' after changing all
 occurences of `jessie' to testing.
 
 Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
 any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
 thorough test?

At the moment, jessie is testing, so no change would be expected.
However, I've just checked to make sure all my source lists say
jessie, not testing. In 9 days time, testing could get like the wild
west because it will track stretch, not jessie. It doesn't sound like
you want that.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett


On Thursday 16 April 2015 12:02:23 David Wright wrote:
 Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
  Then edit fstab to mount the LABEL = /opt drive on top of the /opt
  directory is easy.  But Jessie will have installed some things in
  /home and I am not convinced we have a mechanism/script I could
  apply to update the image of wheezy's home on the LABEL=/home
  partition that will not at that time, be mounted over the /home
  directory of the Jessie install on the other to be main boot drive.

 I can't parse this, sorry.

 I can only guess that you *might* be referring to the situation where,
 by accident or design, you leave a separate /home partition unmounted
 while installing Debian on the root partition. On rebooting, d-i will
 be found to have placed
 /home/first-user/{.bash_logout,.bashrc,.profile} in / but it's a
 simple matter to boot single/recovery, move/remove
 first-user/{.bash_logout,.bashrc,.profile} (if they offend you), and
 mount your home partition on the now empty /home (adjusting fstab to
 suit).

I think you have about covered it.  I was more concerned with the X, 
kde/tde stuff but you have the idea I believe.

 If that's not the case, please ignore the above rather than
 re-expounding what you really meant.

  And one other question:  Can the installer deal with a drive that
  has no partition table on it? I know for a fact that as it stands
  for wheezy, that it will not accept, even if it can see it, another
  partitioners partition tables.  It absolutely has to write its own
  table and nothing a human can concoct will ever suit it.  Frankly,
  debian needs to get an alaskan divorce from whatever its called and
  use gparted and be done with it.

 I don't know the expression alaskan divorce. Could it be where you
 walk from the divorce court straight back to the registry office to
 get re-married?

Aw gee, that expression is at least 30 years older than the internet!

I first heard about it in a letter my mother got from a friend of hers 
that had moved to the Anchorage area about 5 years before the quake in 
1952.  She wrote that in all the carnage the earthquake left that they 
had only had 2 Alaskan Divorces in the 3 months or so since the quake.
So mother wrote back for clarification.

Story goes like this:
Couple has been married long enough the honeymoon has slowed some, and 
have built a cabin overlooking their mining claim, which between it and 
subsistence hunting is feeding them well.  But it is, figuratively 
speaking, about 75 miles from the neighbors.  Used to the long winters 
but miss-calculated how many decks of cards, coffee, condoms and tobacco 
they would need.

Snowbound since about the first of October, they are out of condoms by 
the end of January, out of coffee by the end of February, tobacco by the 
middle of March  wore out the last deck of cards too somewhere along 
the way.  Somewhere around the first of April, before any thaw of 
consequence gives them hope for spring, one of them picks up the 30-06 
and gets a divorce.

Told poorly, but that is the classic definition of an Alaskan Divorce.

 Cheers,
 David.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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boot-time messages, /init touch not found

2015-04-16 Thread Mike Kupfer
Hi, after updating a jessie VM, I noticed a message during boot, before
lightdm started.  The message was something like

  /init [stuff I didn't catch] touch: not found

After logging in, I tried using journalctl to find the message, with no
success.  Is journalctl the right tool to find the message?  If not,
what is?

thanks,
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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
 On Thursday 16 April 2015 12:02:23 David Wright wrote:
  Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
   And one other question:  Can the installer deal with a drive that
   has no partition table on it? I know for a fact that as it stands
   for wheezy, that it will not accept, even if it can see it, another
   partitioners partition tables.  It absolutely has to write its own
   table and nothing a human can concoct will ever suit it.  Frankly,
   debian needs to get an alaskan divorce from whatever its called and
   use gparted and be done with it.
 
  I don't know the expression alaskan divorce. Could it be where you
  walk from the divorce court straight back to the registry office to
  get re-married?
 
 Aw gee, that expression is at least 30 years older than the internet!
[...]
 Told poorly, but that is the classic definition of an Alaskan Divorce.

Well I typed   alaskan   into urbandictionary but didn't dare click on
any of the suggestions below!

But my guess was a hint that Debian won't be getting rid of parted just yet.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
 I don't think this is important what chip I have. I think that all realtek 
 firmware installs in one package. Right now I am wondering how to enable 
 non-free repo in Jessi. If you could tell me this, I'd appreciate it.

Put   main non-free   where you have   main   in /etc/apt/sources.list

Cheers,
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Fwd: Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep

2015-04-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Forward to list, having replied directly to Bob in error.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:10:29 +0200
From: Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org
To: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com

Thanks for your reply, Bob.
I have now risen from my sick-bed, and can once again make some sensible
judgements! Thanks for your patience.

On 03/04/15 00:11, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 I have OpenVPN on my KDE Wheezy laptop configured to connect to my
 wheezy VPS. When booting from scratch this works fine.
 
 Works for me too.  Note that I am not using KDE however.  Doesn't seem
 like that should matter.  Unless you are using some KDE specific
 network something.
 
Hmm, I am using KDE network Manager (V0.9.0.3) but am unaware of any
problems with it.

 However, if I close the lid, thus putting the lappie into sleep mode,
 then re-open it, OpenVPN appears to start, but I'm unable to access any
 address outside of my local network, until I run sudo service openvpn
 restart.
 
 You say address which sounds promising that you are actually talking
 about addresses explicitly.  But most people confuse names and
 addresses and mix them up in conversation.
 
I meant 'addresses' ping 8.8.8.8 gives 100% packet loss.
ping router or ping 192.168.1.1 succeed as expected, so networking
is up.

 Do you have a caching nameserver installed?  bind9 or other?  Does
 restarting just bind9 also solve the problem?
 
No name server on this laptop.

 When using a vpn you are also very likely using private resources
 behind that vpn.  

No, my setup is extremely simple. My only reason for using VPN is to
defeat geolocation filters. I use no resources on the remote host. It
does run a nameserver, but only for a subdomain, which I'm not trying to
access.

 If a ping to the address succeeds and the DNS lookup fails then you
 know the networking is okay.  I suspect this to be the problem.
 
I'm not sure that I fully understand your logic, but no matter, it is
the entire network beyond my router that appears unresponsive. I think
DNS is a red herring.

 Another useful debugging hint is to run this in a text window and
 watch the display change.
 
   watch ip route show
 
 Or the shortest save the keystrokes typing abbreviation.
 
   watch ip r
 
 When the vpn is offline there won't be any routes for the tunnel
 devices.  After the vpn is established it will register routes
 corresponding to the tunnels.  Seeing them be dropped and established
 is useful for me to see when the tunnels become usable.
 

The routing table is identical for the failing case and the non-failing one:
every 2.0s: ip route show

0.0.0.0/1 via 10.8.0.13 dev tun0
default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0 proto static
10.8.0.1 via 10.8.0.13 dev tun0
10.8.0.13 dev tun0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.8.0.14
128.0.0.0/1 via 10.8.0.13 dev tun0
169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0  scope link metric 1000
192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.223

It does not change with time.
 Another useful debugging hint is to run this in a window and watch the
 log file.
 
   tail -F /var/log/syslog
 
 That will display the actions of openvpn daemon as they are logged to
 the system log file.  Watching that will display what is happening as
 it happens.

This seems to be the most fruitful approach, but my networking knowledge
is severely challenged by the results:

Attachment 1: syslog -- After the wake-up from suspend.
Attachment 2: syslog2 -- after issuing openvpn restart.

Hope they make it through bendel.

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Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info sleep requested (sleeping: 
no  enabled: yes)
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info sleeping or disabling...
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): now unmanaged
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): device state 
change: activated - unmanaged (reason 'sleeping') [100 10 37]
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): deactivating 
device (reason 'sleeping') [37]
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): canceled DHCP 
transaction, DHCP client pid 2007
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt kernel: [327812.194614] wlan0: deauthenticating from 
00:19:70:3a:d5:9d by local choice (reason=3)
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt kernel: [327812.234650] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to 
update world regulatory domain
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): cleaning up...
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt NetworkManager[2536]: info (wlan0): taking down 
device.
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt avahi-daemon[2492]: Withdrawing address record for 
192.168.1.223 on wlan0.
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt avahi-daemon[2492]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on 
interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.223.
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt avahi-daemon[2492]: Interface wlan0.IPv4 no longer 
relevant for mDNS.
Apr 16 14:51:04 tony-lt 

Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):

 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets,
which appears on

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/VIDEO/?page=3

Cheers,
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Re: OpenVPN doesn't restart after sleep

2015-04-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 15/04/15 13:32, lukn555 wrote:
 Hi Tony
 
 Sorry for the late reply, I suffered the same but I only just found out
 how to fix this:
 
 
 
 Add the following script to /lib/systemd/system-sleep (in case you are
 using systemd):
 
 $ cat /lib/systemd/system-sleep/openvpn.sh
 #!/bin/bash
 case $1 in
 post)
 /bin/systemctl restart openvpn
 ;;
 esac
 
 
 or the following script to /etc/pm/sleep.d in case you are still using
 sysv init:
 
 $ cat /etc/pm/sleep.d/99openvpn
 #!/bin/bash
 case $1 in
 resume|thaw)
 /etc/init.d/openvpn restart
 ;;
 esac
 
 
 Of coure in either case the script has to be executable (chmod +x)
 
 hope this helps
 regards
 lukn
 
 

Thanks for your reply. It certainly helps; but I was already aware that
restarting OpenVPN was aa effective work-around. I hadn't got round to
doing it programatically, though.

However, whilst the work-around is effective, I would rather find out
what the underlying problem is, and correct that. If that fails, then,
yes, I'll use your script. So thanks very much!


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'T' em saída do ls

2015-04-16 Thread Fred Maranhão
o que significa este 'T'?

# ls -l /dev/sda*
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 0 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 1 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda1
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 2 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda2
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 3 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda3
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 4 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda4
brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 5 Abr 16 10:12 /dev/sda5

isto é um disco virtual de uma maquina rodando no vmware com debian stable.


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Re: 'T' em saída do ls

2015-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015, at 10:41, Fred Maranhão wrote:
 o que significa este 'T'?

Sticky bit (01000) setado, mas exec bit resetado.

O certo mesmo era mostrar assim:
brwTrwT--T.

Se um bit x estiver setado, vai virar t:

brwtrwt--t (mode 01771).

Em outras palavras, se tem um 'x' por baixo, vira 't' quando o sticky bit está 
ligado. Se não tem um 'x' por baixo, vira 'T'.

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Re: Realtek firmware

2015-04-16 Thread Ron
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:27:43 -0400
German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think this is important what chip I have. I think that all realtek 
 firmware installs in one package. 

Excrept that some Realtek-chipped NICs do not work under Linux. 
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: problème upnp sur la freebox

2015-04-16 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


bonjour,
depuis quelques jours, plus moyen d'avoir les fichiers de mon PC Debian en 
upnp

sur la freebox. J'utilisais Mediatomb, et jusque la, tout marchait bien.
Pour en avoir le coeur net, j'ai réinstallé minidlna, qui avait aussi bien 
marché
il y a quelque temps. Cette fois-ci, plus rien, bien que le log minidlna.log 
soit

tout à fait normal.
Le comble est que je vois en upnp une machine windows, sur laquelle rien de 
particulier

n'a été configuré.
(j'ai bien sûr vérifié les re-directions de ports)
Quelqu'un a-t-il une idée?


  En fait, le problème n'est pas lié au client upnp de la freebox, car
  j'ai la même chose avec un client upnp de ma tablette.
  Par contre, c'est peut-être lié à la config du routeur de la freebox...
  (J'était justement passé du routeur netgeau au routeur freebox pour
  avoir l'upnp...)



Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:40:47 +0100
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

Hello Darac,

At the moment, stable is a pointer to wheezy, testing points to
jessie and unstable points to sid.

AIUI, that's the wrong way round.   Wheezy is a link to stable, jessie
links to testing, etc.

Consider;  old-stable, stable, testing and unstable always exist.  The
code names change meaning and fall out of use over time - with the
exception of sid which is always linked to unstable.

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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread David Christensen

On 04/16/2015 07:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

With my history of mis-behaving install partitioners, you can bet the
farm on that! ;-)
I think the last things I do before starting the install, is to rsync the
currant /home and /opt directories to the new drive I just partitioned
and formatted as ext4.  Then I'll have a several hour battle trying to
expunge network-manager and making my networking Just Work(TM).
Then edit fstab to mount the LABEL = /opt drive on top of the /opt
directory is easy.  But Jessie will have installed some things in /home
and I am not convinced we have a mechanism/script I could apply to
update the image of wheezy's home on the LABEL=/home partition that will
not at that time, be mounted over the /home directory of the Jessie
install on the other to be main boot drive.
Perhaps that might be another of rsync's talents, only updating whats
different?  Man page study time I think.  And more caffiene, I'm a quart
low yet...
And one other question:  Can the installer deal with a drive that has no
partition table on it? I know for a fact that as it stands for wheezy,
that it will not accept, even if it can see it, another partitioners
partition tables.  It absolutely has to write its own table and nothing
a human can concoct will ever suit it.  Frankly, debian needs to get an
alaskan divorce from whatever its called and use gparted and be done
with it.


You have outlined a lot of complexity, and implied that it is all going 
into one machine that you are trying to keep operational while you work 
on it.  That sounds difficult and risky.



I have been building x86 computers for my SOHO network for many years. 
I have found that it is useful to have several computers running and 
divide the functionality across them.  This makes operations and 
maintenance easier and more reliable:


1.  One firewall/ router running a purpose-build Linux distribution:

http://www.ipcop.org/

2.  One laptop with a small system drive (boot, swap, and root 
partitions; Wheezy).


3.  One file and version control server with a small system drive (as 
above), plus a large HDD (one data partition).


4.  One backup server/ workbench machine with a small system drive (as 
above) and various hard drive mobile dock bays and I/O ports, plus 
several large HDD's (one backup partition each).



If you must fit everything into one machine (firewall, desktop, bulk 
data, backups), I would suggest removing all your drives (except 
optical), installing a small system drive, installing and configuring 
the OS, configuring the firewall, adding a 2 TB drive for bulk data, 
restoring your data, setting up user accounts, adding a 2 TB drive for 
backups, and importing your backups.



David


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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brad Rogers (b...@fineby.me.uk):
 AIUI, that's the wrong way round.   Wheezy is a link to stable, jessie
 links to testing, etc.
 
 Consider;  old-stable, stable, testing and unstable always exist.  The
 code names change meaning and fall out of use over time - with the
 exception of sid which is always linked to unstable.

In which case you don't understand it.

Please don't spread misinformation.

Debian codenames do not change and they don't fall out of use.
You can see all bar two at http://archive.debian.net/ where the
maintainer has forgotten to include buzz and rex (the files are
on the site).

It's trivial to do the following:

$ ftp ftp.debian.org
Connected to ftp.debian.org.
220 ftp.debian.org FTP server
Name (ftp.debian.org:deblis): anonymous 
331 Please specify the password.
Password:
230 Login successful.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp cd debian
250 Directory successfully changed.
ftp cd dists
250 Directory successfully changed.
ftp ls
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11767 Jul 19  2014 Debian6.0.10 - squeeze
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11766 Jan 10 10:21 Debian7.8 - wheezy
-rw-rw-r--1 1176 1176  723 Jan 10 10:19 README
drwxrwsr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 experimental
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:59 jessie
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 jessie-backports
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 jessie-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 jessie-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11767 May 04  2013 oldstable - squeeze
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   24 May 04  2013 
oldstable-proposed-updates - squeeze-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   15 May 04  2013 oldstable-updates - 
squeeze-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   23 May 04  2013 proposed-updates - 
wheezy-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   12 Aug 04  2008 rc-buggy - experimental
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:59 sid
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Jul 19  2014 squeeze
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 squeeze-lts
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176   643072 Apr 16 14:58 squeeze-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 squeeze-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11766 May 04  2013 stable - wheezy
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   16 May 05  2013 stable-backports - 
wheezy-backports
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   23 May 04  2013 stable-proposed-updates 
- wheezy-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   14 May 04  2013 stable-updates - 
wheezy-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11766 May 04  2013 testing - jessie
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   23 May 04  2013 
testing-proposed-updates - jessie-proposed-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 1176   14 Oct 15  2013 testing-updates - 
jessie-updates
lrwxrwxrwx1 1176 11763 Nov 10  2007 unstable - sid
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Jan 10 11:19 wheezy
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 wheezy-backports
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 wheezy-backports-sloppy
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176   163840 Apr 16 14:58 wheezy-proposed-updates
drwxr-sr-x5 1176 1176 4096 Apr 16 14:58 wheezy-updates
226 Directory send OK.
ftp 

Cheers,
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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:40:47 +0100
 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Darac,

At the moment, stable is a pointer to wheezy, testing points to
jessie and unstable points to sid.

 AIUI, that's the wrong way round.   Wheezy is a link to stable, jessie
 links to testing, etc.


No. See
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives#s-codenames

 Consider;  old-stable, stable, testing and unstable always exist.  The
 code names change meaning and fall out of use over time - with the
 exception of sid which is always linked to unstable.

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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:25:41 -0500
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):

 
  This upgrade of old Testing to new Testing is the first real-world
  preview of the *next* Stable upgrade, or at least some of it. I'm
  sure a lot of thought has gone into preparing for it.
 
 Sure, but we're not all gagging for it.
 

Indeed. I prefer not to upgrade my server to a new Stable for at least
six months, and I don't brave the turbulance of Testing at all,
preferring the smooth serenity of Sid...

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Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux

2015-04-16 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:18:02 +0200
Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit:

 Le mercredi 15 avril 2015, 22:36:59 Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 […]
  Doit y avoir un truc qui m'échappe parce que je ne vois
  toujours pas en quoi ça serait à l'appli de gérer ça.
  Quand on passe en mode tablette pour moi c'est au système à
  mettre ce qu'il faut à disposition pour que l'on puisse
  saisir des données.
 
 1. Soit le clavier physique reste : comment sait-on que 
 l’utilisateur veut utiliser un clavier virtuel ?
   → C’est à l’utilisateur de le lancer/montrer/cacher.
 
 2. (Je pense que c’est le cas ici.) Soit il n’y a plus de 
 clavier physique (on l’enlève).
 
   Alors :
   a.  Qui lance un clavier virtuel ?
 
   b.  Et doit-il rester en place (et bouffer de l’espace pour 
 rien dans 90% des cas) ou apparaître seulement quand on en a 
 besoin ?
 
   c.  Et s’il doit apparaître seulement quand on en a besoin (on 
 touche un champ textuel p.ex.), qui le fait 
 apparaître/disparaître ?
 
   
   D’après toi, à chaque fois (?), la réponse serait : le 
 « système ».

De prime abord je dirai que oui.

   Mais c’est qui/quoi ce « système » ?

Ce qui n'est pas l'appli ;)

 
 
   Sur une tablette Android (p.ex., mais c’est pareil sur toutes 
 les plates-formes embarquées ou contraignantes), toutes les 
 applications utilisent la même base, l’API fournie, celle qui 
 cause à la pile applicative qui n’a qu’un seul tronc (noyau → 
 système graphique → bibliothèques android). Donc, effectivement, 
 c’est android (le « système ») qui fait le boulot puisque tout 
 est fourni et obligatoire.
 
   Sur un PC plus polyvalent, la pile est multi-branche : une 
 application peut attaquer le matériel (pour savoir si oui ou non 
 il y a un clavier ou pour afficher des trucs à l’écran) plus ou 
 moins directement, via le noyau, la libc, et diverses autres 
 bibliothèques et services. Elle n’est pas obligée de passer par 
 une unique API.
   Donc qui a le niveau de connaissance suffisante pour prendre 
 les responsabilités ?
 
   … pour a. (qui lance le clavier virtuel ?) X11 gère les 
 claviers donc sait s’il y en a un réel ou pas mais ce n’est pas 
 à lui de gérer la session de l’utilisateur, donc ce serait 
 plutôt au gestionnaire de fenêtre ou de bureau de le faire.
 
   … pour c. (qui le montre/cache suivant le focus ?) Là, il faut 
 que ce soit l’application parce que c’est la seule à savoir 
 lequel de ses composants a le focus et si ce composant a besoin 
 d’un clavier (le gestionnaire de fenêtres ne sait que quelle 
 application/fenêtre a le focus et X11 ne sait pas grand-chose). 
 Bien sûr, des bibliothèques peuvent aider à gérer tout ça (Qt, 
 GTK…) et pourraient même utiliser des protocoles standard (dbus 
 / Freedesktop.org¹) pour savoir quelle application lancer, s’il 
 y a déjà un clavier ou pas, ou pour le cacher/montrer.

Pour moi ce n'est pas l'appli mais l'utilisateur qui décide dans ce cas et
donc c'est le système qui lui offre cette possibilité.
Imagine un simple programme genre hello world qui te demande d'entrer ton
nom pour afficher hello _nom_. Si c'est à cette appli de gérer les
différents claviers possible leur affichage, etc. elle risque de devenir
dramatiquement compliquée, non ?

Gaëtan

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/16/2015 11:40 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
 On 16/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):

 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

 I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets,
 which appears on

 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/VIDEO/?page=3

 Cheers,
 David.



 Now, you say that, but, Ubuntu 14.04 shows two different sets of
 information, as shown in my preceding messages;


 


 I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
 14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
 being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;

 from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have

 
 Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
 Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)
 

 

 and, as you have mentioned above, from

 
 
 bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
 
 


 and

 
 and, from the lshw output,

 
   *-pci:0
description: Host bridge
product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@:00:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
  *-display UNCLAIMED
   description: VGA compatible controller
   product: Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
   physical id: 1
   bus info: pci@:00:01.0
   version: 00
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
   configuration: latency=0
   resources: memory:e000-efff
 memory:f000-f07f ioport:3000(size=256)
 memory:f0c0-f0c3 memory:f0c8-f0c9

 
 


 So, Ubuntu shows the CPU as being both
 AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
 and
  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

 unless, an AMD E2-6110 incorporates an AMD A4-6000 with R2 Graphics

 ?

 But, the link that you sent, links to
 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/1002%3A9852/

 which has

 
 Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
 with R2 Graphics] Video
 The Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
 with R2 Graphics] is under the Video category and is contained in the
 certified systems below.
 


 and, lists, as certified systems,

 
 HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
 Ltd. AMD AMD
 HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD
 

 and

 
 HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
 Ltd. AMD AMD
 


 and the link that I have cited, for
 http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/

 has

 
 AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics Processor
 The AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics is under
 the Processor category and is contained in the certified systems
 below.

 HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
 Ltd. AMD AMD
 HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD
 HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
 Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
 Ltd. AMD AMD
 

 So, what I deduce from this, is that the only difference between what
 you have posted, and, what I had previously posted, is that you have
 referred to the video component
 ( [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics])
 of the CPU that I had specified;
 (AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4)

 but, however it is interpreted, my deduction that both Debian 7 and
 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, appear to be lacking a(n adequate) driver for the
 particular CPU (given that it involves and includes, as an integral
 part, the  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
 graphics controller), appears to be reasonable and valid.

 I note that none of the web page URL's that you and I have cited,
 appear to link to, or, mention, a driver for the particular CPU or its
 incorporated graphics controller, for either Debian or Ubuntu, Linux.

 Have you tried catalyst for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility Product
 Family your 6000 series is listed.
 http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx


Hello.

I 

Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread German
Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be returns no output, 
so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show any wireless networks. 
Where to go from here? Thank you

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Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
Hi.

I would like to know if some people here have accurate knowledge on the
prospect of running Debian on low- and middle-end hybrid PC/tablet
computers, like Asus Transformer or Acer Aspire Switch that sell for
250-500 EUR around here?

Note that I do not expect a there's an app for that kind of tablet
experience, I just want to a normal Debian laptop to replace an old
EeePC 1000, with the extra option of removing the keyboard when it is more
convenient.

For that, apart from the usual hardware support, I need the touchscreen to
appear in /dev/input/event* and generate events, no more. But that kind of
information seems hard to come by on the web.

If anyone has access to that kind of device, I would be very grateful for
the information.

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Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread albcares
2015-04-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:

 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:12:30 -0500
 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

  Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
   Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be returns
 no output, so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show any
 wireless networks. Where to go from here? Thank you
 
  Does iwconfig show a wireless interface?
 
  $ /sbin/iwconfig
  wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:my-name
Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 44:...
Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality=64/70  Signal level=-46 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:6  Invalid misc:794   Missed beacon:0


 Yes, it shows. When I ran ip link show, it says it is DOWN. Now how to get
 it UP? Thanks

 
  lono wireless extensions.
 
  eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
  $
 
  Cheers,
  David.
 
 
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 hallo! as I'm not an expert I try to learn something out and about.
 have you ever tried - as root:
 # dhclient wlan0 (the label of your device)
 # wlan0 up

 I don't remember exactly, maybe the first string can be enough... let us
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Re: L'écran tactile sous Linux

2015-04-16 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:55:56 +0200
Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit:

 Le jeudi 16 avril 2015, 21:51:18 Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 […]
  Pour moi ce n'est pas l'appli mais l'utilisateur qui décide
  dans ce cas et donc c'est le système qui lui offre cette
  possibilité.
 
   Donc tu te places dans le cas où le clavier visuel est 
 accessible via le bureau et est montré/caché par une activation 
 de l’utilisateur.
   Si on veut (comme, pensé-je, l’OP) que le clavier apparaisse 
 automagiquement quand on sélectionne un champ textuel, comme 
 c’est le cas sur une vraie tablette, alors c’est forcément 
 l’application (ou une de ses bibs) qui le fait.

Oui alors en fait on est d'accord. J'assimilais appli au code que l'on écrit
spécifiquement pour une appli. Je mettais les biblio système dans
système ...

Gaëtan

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

SNIP

 Have you tried catalyst for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility
 Product Family your 6000 series is listed.
 http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx


 Hello.

 I assume something bad is in the source code of that web page (it is
 aspx, so, proprietary MS stuff), but, with two web browsers - Arora
 and rekonq, running on Debian 6, I can only see a bit at the op of the
 web page - no scroll bar or any way to get to the important stuff
 lower down on the web page.

 Publishing a web page about Linux stuff, in MS only format, is a bit
 weird.

 It is kind of like the manuafacturer (AMD) wants to hide its Linux
 stuff, from Linux users.

It is nothing of the sort. The site Works fine in iceweasel on jessie.
It should work on wheezy, which has the same version of iceweasel, too.

Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security
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Re: 'T' em saída do ls

2015-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015, at 11:03, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015, at 10:41, Fred Maranhão wrote:
  o que significa este 'T'?
 
 Sticky bit (01000) setado, mas exec bit resetado.
 
 O certo mesmo era mostrar assim:
 brwTrwT--T.

Como observado pelo colega Thiago, isso está errado... o t/T vai só no último 
bit.

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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because everything
will immediately update willy-nilly and out of your control, all at
once, to 

I've been using 'testing' (as opposed to codenames) for years without
problems.  The flood of updates doesn't happen in an uncontrolled
manner.  Every single one of them is (dis)allowed by the system
administrator.  Me, in this case.  When the freeze ends after a new
Debian release, I update daily for a week or two to avoid having to do
too many packages at once.

Sometimes, one (or more) of those packages wants to remove others,
sometimes a *lot* of packages.  More often than not, holding back on
updates to just those packages demanding removals allows for issues to
be sorted out in sid (or upstream) soon enough.  Occasionally, of course,
some removals are required, due to dependency changes, killing off
outdated software etc. but never in huge quantities.

Admittedly, one has to be fairly confident in one's own abilities to
select updates wisely.  So, as a result, I'd probably advise complete
newcomers to use codenames.  At least until they gained some
knowledge/skill in handling updates.

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Re: [OT] grub: error: cant't find command linux

2015-04-16 Thread Carlos Carcamo
El 13 de abril de 2015, 7:29 a. m., Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:36:35 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

  El Sun, 12 de Apr de 2015, a las 03:52:45PM +, Camaleón dijo:
 
  En cualquier caso, ¿dónde instalas GRUB, en el MBR o en la partición /
  boot/grub?
 
  En /boot/grub se instalan los módulos, la configuración menu.cfg y
  demás ficheros de grub. El sector de arranque de esa partición no tiene
  nada de especial.

 (...)

 Ya sabes que el gestor de arranque (me refiero al stage 1) puede ir
 instalado en dos lugares: el MBR y primer sector de la partición, la
 diferencia no es baladí sobre todo cuando se tienen instalados varios
 sistemas operativos y más aún si uno de ellos es Windows que no permite
 (al menos fácilmente) seleccionar dónde instalar su cargador de arranque
 y lo mete, sí o sí, en el MBR y adiós muy buenas a lo que hubiera
 anteriormente.

  Lo que no sé muy bien es qué ocurre cuando se elige instalar el grub en
  una partición DOS particular. Supongo que el código del MBR remitirá al
  sector de arranque de esa partición y éste al espacio entre el MBR y la
  primera partición.

 En otras distribuciones (yo lo pude comprobar con openSUSE que sí tenía
 esta opción) cuando se elige esa opción se instala código genérico en el
 MBR (lo mínimo para decirle a la BIOS dónde mirar) y el cargador de
 arranque (stage 1) se va al primer sector de la partición.

 Debian no sé cómo lo hará.

  A mí no me gusta tener un único GRUB porque te arriesgas a que no sea
  compatible con otros sistemas linux/unix (recordemos que hay
  distribuciones que lo modifican)
 
  Esto no lo sé. ¿Hay distribuciones que no arrancan con un grub genérico?

 Si, como decía antes openSUSE lo permite (o así lo hacía antes).

  o sencillamente te arriesgas a que por el motivo que sea te falle y no
  tengas otro para arrancar los sistemas operativos que tengas.
 
  Pero en este caso da igual que tengas unos o muchos: si te falla con el
  que deberías arrancar también vas a tener que montar el taco.

 Con cambiar la partición booteable a la que tenga cualquier otro GRUB
 ya lo tienes solucionado.

  En cuanto a tenerlo en su propia partición antes era la opción
  predeterminada y lo recomendado debido a que en algunos sistemas de
  archivos (p. ej., ReiserFS) tenía problemas pero ahora me parece que no
  y los instaladores lo ponen bajo partición raíz (/).
 
  El problema de eso es que, inopinadamente, puedes decidir cargarte uno
  de los sistemas operativos y que resulte que ese sea el que contenía el
  grub activo. Si tienes grub por separado, es más difícil que te lo
  cargues o por ignorancia o por descuido.

 En  se caso ese sería el menor de los problemas porque si te cargas la
 partición donde tienes GRUB (que suele ser en la raíz bajo /boot/grub)
 te quedas sin sistema :-)

  ¡La de usuarios de windows que instalan linux para probar, luego lo
  borran y dejan de poder arrancar el sistema porque grub necesita los
  ficheros de /boot/grub y se los acaba de cargar al destruir la partición
  del linux!

 Si tienes instalado Windows ya se encarga él solito de sacarse las
 castañas del fuego e instalar su propio cargador en el MBR, así haya linux
 o no podrá arrancar cuando y como quiera.

 Saludos,


Les cuento, logre que el grub me reconociera debian y manjaro, les
comento como hice:

En el grub presione c para entrar a la linea de comandos del grub,
entonces hice lo siguiente:

grubls
(hd0), (hd0,1) 

en mi caso debian esta en (hd0,2)

entonces:

grubset root=(hd0,2)
grublinux /boot/vmlinuz
grubinitrd /boot/initrd...
grunboot

con esto pude acceder a debian, ya en debian reinstale el grub
siguiendo este manual: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall

Con esto logre iniciar correctamente debian y manjaro, pero ahora ya
no puedo entrar a centos :/ y me sale el mismo error de antes:
grub: error: cant't find command linux

pero ahora solo pasa con centos.

Alguna idea de que puedo hacer para lograr iniciar centos desde el
grub de debian?

De antemano muchas gracias!


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Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015, at 16:31, ken wrote:
 After thinking about it, and remembering that partitioning also detects 
 and marks bad  blocks, I was then wondering if this was done also by the 
 writing of LUKS container alone.  Anyone know?

The typical install will have the LUKS container (actually, dmcrypt) doing 
nothing as far as badblocks are concerned.  Whatever filesystem is inside the 
LUKS container will have to do badblock handling, and avoid trying to write to 
a badblock.

This would also mean it is impossible to have a LUKS container where there is a 
badblock is in a LUKS metadata area, and if one shows up there, well...

Basically, nowadays the underlying device has to deal with badblocks and remap 
those itself (all ATA/SATA/SSD devices do this).  

You _can_ skip over badblocks in the device mapper setup that actually 
implements the encrypted device as far as the kernel is concerned.  I have no 
idea if cryptsetup (which reads the LUKS metadata and sets up the dm-crypt map) 
can deal with this, but it doesn't look like it.

There is an alternative using another device mapper layer between the dm-crypt 
device created by cryptsetup, and the real storage device.  It is not likely to 
be supported by stock Debian initramfs-tools, so it is very likely in the 
don't bother, not worth the trouble side of the fence.

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Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread ken

On 04/15/2015 12:33 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 04/15/2015 08:01 AM, ken wrote:

What options or features does one get by putting the LUKS container in a
partition rather than putting it on a raw drive?


I am not aware of any technical advantages or disadvantages of LUKS on a
raw drive vs. LUKS on a partition.  For me, it's more a matter of
personal habit/ psychology in the face of several computers, many
drives, and changing conditions over the years.


Prior to running encrypted drives, I used to wipe (zero) drives when I
took them out of service.  Since migrating to LUKS partitions, sometimes
I wipe, sometimes I shred, and sometimes I just put the drive aside.  So
now when I grab a spare drive off the shelf, I look for a partition table:

1.  If the first megabyte has been zeroed:

   (elision for brevity) 


David,

Thanks for the outstanding answer.

After thinking about it, and remembering that partitioning also detects 
and marks bad  blocks, I was then wondering if this was done also by the 
writing of LUKS container alone.  Anyone know?



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Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
 Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be returns no 
 output, so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show any wireless 
 networks. Where to go from here? Thank you

Does iwconfig show a wireless interface?

$ /sbin/iwconfig 
wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:my-name  
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 44:...
  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   
  Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=64/70  Signal level=-46 dBm  
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:6  Invalid misc:794   Missed beacon:0

lono wireless extensions.

eth0  no wireless extensions.

$ 

Cheers,
David.


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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/16/2015 04:01 PM, David Christensen wrote:

On 04/16/2015 11:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

... I discovered the atom based box for $300 which are
great for a one stop solution for the machinery controls.  So this
phenom box was my last real build, 8 years (nominally) ago.


Please tell us about your Atom box(es).  (I've been eyeballing the
D2500CC for IPCop.)


What machinery?


Gene has a special install for his CNC setup, with a RTS kernel. To me, 
ole Gene needs one machine dedicated to that and offload desktop stuff 
to another standard install.


Gene, regarding harddrive problems, check this out:
http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/
I had one bad sector that gave everything else fits. This fixed it! 
Scared me to do it, but nothing blew up on reboot. Just a thought. Ric




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Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
[ Re-sending due to a mixup with my from address; hopefully will arrive
only once. ]

Hi.

I would like to know if some people here have accurate knowledge on the
prospect of running Debian on low- and middle-end hybrid PC/tablet
computers, like Asus Transformer or Acer Aspire Switch that sell for
250-500 EUR around here?

Note that I do not expect a there's an app for that kind of tablet
experience, I just want to a normal Debian laptop to replace an old
EeePC 1000, with the extra option of removing the keyboard when it is more
convenient.

For that, apart from the usual hardware support, I need the touchscreen to
appear in /dev/input/event* and generate events, no more. But that kind of
information seems hard to come by on the web.

If anyone has access to that kind of device, I would be very grateful for
the information.

Regards,

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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100
 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  As opposed to problems in a fortnight?  If you change all of them,
  you will have a whirlwind as soon as Jessie becomes Stable.  If I
  were in your shoes, I would change the one reference to testing to
  Jessie.  Track Jessie into next month and change all references to
  Jessie to testing or Stretch then, when things have calmed down a
  little.
  
   Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
   any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
   thorough test?
  
  It's no test at all.  At the moment testing and Jessie are the same
  thing. 
  
  But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because
  everything will immediately update willy-nilly and out of your
  control, all at once, to Stretch (which will be the new testing).
  
  I really should wait a few days if I were you.  If I were me I would
  wait at least a month!  
  
 
 However long the wait, the result will be the same. In fact, the longer
 the wait, the more upgrades there will be in one go.

This may be true, but there's a difference. If you wait a few months
in jessie before moving to stretch, a lot more people will have tried
the latter and discussed, maybe fixed, the bugs that crop up.

 Once the
 floodgates open into the new Testing, there will be a similar upheaval
 here in Sid, as software which has been kept back because it won't be
 compatible with the initial new Testing (which has to be smoothly
 upgraded from the present Testing) will then be dumped into Sid and
 pushed into Testing as soon as the magic two weeks have passed without
 complete disaster. Interesting times everywhere, except hopefully in the
 new Stable.

Lisi and I both suggested to stick with codenames, and jessie.
This means that the OP can choose exactly when to move distribution
instead of being at the mercy of the Debian release schedule.

 This upgrade of old Testing to new Testing is the first real-world
 preview of the *next* Stable upgrade, or at least some of it. I'm sure
 a lot of thought has gone into preparing for it.

Sure, but we're not all gagging for it.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread German
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:05:26 +0200
albcares acbang...@gmail.com wrote:

 2015-04-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
 
  On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:12:30 -0500
  David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 
   Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be
returns
  no output, so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show
  any wireless networks. Where to go from here? Thank you
  
   Does iwconfig show a wireless interface?
  
   $ /sbin/iwconfig
   wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:my-name
 Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 44:...
 Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
 Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
 Power Management:off
 Link Quality=64/70  Signal level=-46 dBm
 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
 Tx excessive retries:6  Invalid misc:794   Missed
   beacon:0
 
 
  Yes, it shows. When I ran ip link show, it says it is DOWN. Now how
  to get it UP? Thanks
 
  
   lono wireless extensions.
  
   eth0  no wireless extensions.
  
   $
  
   Cheers,
   David.
  
  
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  hallo! as I'm not an expert I try to learn something out and
  about. have you ever tried - as root:
  # dhclient wlan0 (the label of your device)

This hangs for a while and exits. 
  # wlan0 up

Command not found. wlan0 is an interface, not a program.

Here is output of my few commands, maybe someone else can shed a light
on this:
 ip link show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default 
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP 
mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 28:d2:44:d9:c1:33 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT 
group default qlen 1000
link/ether 38:b1:db:5e:64:79 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


as you see wlan0 is down.

ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 28:d2:44:d9:c1:33  
  inet addr:192.168.0.103  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2ad2:44ff:fed9:c133/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:3116 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:3639821 (3.4 MiB)  TX bytes:116814 (114.0 KiB)

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:74 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:74 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:6572 (6.4 KiB)  TX bytes:6572 (6.4 KiB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 38:b1:db:5e:64:79  
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)


Thanks for any suggestions.




 
  I don't remember exactly, maybe the first string can be enough...
  let us know!
 
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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/16/2015 11:40 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 16/04/2015, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

Quoting Bret Busby (bret.bu...@gmail.com):


bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]


I think you should concentrate on the string in brackets,
which appears on

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/VIDEO/?page=3

Cheers,
David.




Now, you say that, but, Ubuntu 14.04 shows two different sets of
information, as shown in my preceding messages;






I note that, having just installed (and presently updating) Ubuntu
14.04LTS, on the Acer E5-521-238Q, the same graphics drive shows as
being used, as for Debian 7 on the Acer V3772G;

from System Settings - Hardware - Overview, I have


Processor: AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
Graphics: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.4, 128 bits)





and, as you have mentioned above, from



bret@bret-Aspire-E5-521:~$  lspci | grep -i vga
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]




and


and, from the lshw output,


  *-pci:0
   description: Host bridge
   product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
   vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]
   physical id: 100
   bus info: pci@:00:00.0
   version: 00
   width: 32 bits
   clock: 33MHz
 *-display UNCLAIMED
  description: VGA compatible controller
  product: Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
  vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
  physical id: 1
  bus info: pci@:00:01.0
  version: 00
  width: 64 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list
  configuration: latency=0
  resources: memory:e000-efff
memory:f000-f07f ioport:3000(size=256)
memory:f0c0-f0c3 memory:f0c8-f0c9





So, Ubuntu shows the CPU as being both
AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4
and
 [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]

unless, an AMD E2-6110 incorporates an AMD A4-6000 with R2 Graphics

?

But, the link that you sent, links to
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/pci/1002%3A9852/

which has


Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
with R2 Graphics] Video
The Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000
with R2 Graphics] is under the Video category and is contained in the
certified systems below.



and, lists, as certified systems,


HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD
HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD


and


HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD



and the link that I have cited, for
http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4365/dmi%3AAMDE2-6110APUwithAMDRadeonR2Graphics/

has


AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics Processor
The AMD processor AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics is under
the Processor category and is contained in the certified systems
below.

HP 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD
HP 18 All-in-One PC Desktop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. AMD
HP Compaq 15 Notebook PC Laptop
Pre-installed by manufacturer AMD processor Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
Ltd. AMD AMD


So, what I deduce from this, is that the only difference between what
you have posted, and, what I had previously posted, is that you have
referred to the video component
( [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics])
of the CPU that I had specified;
(AMD E2-6110 APU with AMD Radeon R2 Graphics x4)

but, however it is interpreted, my deduction that both Debian 7 and
Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, appear to be lacking a(n adequate) driver for the
particular CPU (given that it involves and includes, as an integral
part, the  [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon APU A4-6000 with R2 Graphics]
graphics controller), appears to be reasonable and valid.

I note that none of the web page URL's that you and I have cited,
appear to link to, or, mention, a driver for the particular CPU or its
incorporated graphics controller, for either Debian or Ubuntu, Linux.


Have you tried catalyst for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility Product 
Family your 6000 series is listed.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx

Of course you would need the AMD driver and use that instead of the 
plain jane SVGA you are currently using. I use nvidia, but without the 
nvidia driver installed, I don't get 

Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread David Christensen

On 04/16/2015 12:31 PM, ken wrote:

... remembering that partitioning also detects and marks bad blocks,
I was then wondering if this was done also by the writing of LUKS container 
alone.


It is my understanding that the drive firmware is where bad blocks are 
detected and marked.  I expect that the details are very complex and 
proprietary, involving checksums, error-correcting codes, encryption, 
spare blocks, internal persistent data structures, etc..



From a user's point of view, the most obvious symptoms of a bad block 
are the computer hangs, the HDD LED is on steadily, and/or the hard 
drive makes an audible click of death.



Partitioning, LUKS formatting, and file system formatting only write to 
a fraction of all addressable blocks, and thus are unlikely to find a 
single bad block out of millions (1 GB drive) or billions (1 TB drive). 
 An exhaustive read or write of all addressable blocks is more likely 
to find bad blocks (e.g. scanning, wiping, shredding).



Manufacturer diagnostics can dig deeper and deal with problems found. 
For example:


http://www.seagate.com/support/downloads/seatools/


David


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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:25 PM, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 Quoting Joe (j...@jretrading.com):
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100
 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  As opposed to problems in a fortnight?  If you change all of them,
  you will have a whirlwind as soon as Jessie becomes Stable.  If I
  were in your shoes, I would change the one reference to testing to
  Jessie.  Track Jessie into next month and change all references to
  Jessie to testing or Stretch then, when things have calmed down a
  little.
 
   Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
   any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
   thorough test?
 
  It's no test at all.  At the moment testing and Jessie are the same
  thing.
 
  But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because
  everything will immediately update willy-nilly and out of your
  control, all at once, to Stretch (which will be the new testing).
 
  I really should wait a few days if I were you.  If I were me I would
  wait at least a month!
 

 However long the wait, the result will be the same. In fact, the longer
 the wait, the more upgrades there will be in one go.

 This may be true, but there's a difference. If you wait a few months
 in jessie before moving to stretch, a lot more people will have tried
 the latter and discussed, maybe fixed, the bugs that crop up.

 Once the
 floodgates open into the new Testing, there will be a similar upheaval
 here in Sid, as software which has been kept back because it won't be
 compatible with the initial new Testing (which has to be smoothly
 upgraded from the present Testing) will then be dumped into Sid and
 pushed into Testing as soon as the magic two weeks have passed without
 complete disaster. Interesting times everywhere, except hopefully in the
 new Stable.

 Lisi and I both suggested to stick with codenames, and jessie.
 This means that the OP can choose exactly when to move distribution
 instead of being at the mercy of the Debian release schedule.

 This upgrade of old Testing to new Testing is the first real-world
 preview of the *next* Stable upgrade, or at least some of it. I'm sure
 a lot of thought has gone into preparing for it.

 Sure, but we're not all gagging for it.

I've had these lines in my sources.list for years:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free

Yes, things get interesting after the current testing stabilizes, with
sometimes hundreds of updates at a time, but things don't get into the
testing distribution unless they mostly work, and I've very rarely had
to wait long for any wrinkles to work out. (I do NOT, of course, do
this on a production server, but only on my personal boxes.)

Patrick


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Re: Duvida no samba 3

2015-04-16 Thread Marlon Willrich
esquece.. já deu certo

net groupmap add ntgroup=grupo unixgroup=grupo rid=GID type=d

Em 16 de abril de 2015 15:18, Marlon Willrich uala...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Pessoal, boa tarde

 Estou com uma dúvida, tenho um samba 3 sem ldap com usuários locais,
 coloco máquinas no domínio etc tudo perfeito, porém eu precisaria que os
 grupos unix estivessem disponíveis nas estações Windows, assim como os
 usuários estão, caso por exemplo eu de permissão a um usuario acessar um
 serviço, gostaria de dar ao grupo.

 Alguém sabe qual a opção no smb.conf para mapear os grupos do linux ?

 Agradeço qq ajuda...

 segue meu smb.conf

 [global]
  workgroup = DOMINIO
  netbios name = SERVIDOR
  dns proxy = no
  security = user
  encrypt passwords = true
  pam password change = yes
  unix password sync = yes
  socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
 SO_REUSEADDR=1 SO_KEEPALIVE
  passdb backend = tdbsam
  passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
  passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n
 *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully*
  domain logons = Yes
  logon script = %U.bat
  logon drive = h:
  logon path =
  add machine script = /usr/sbin/useradd -g domainmac -c Maquina
 de Dominio -s /bin/false -d /dev/null %u





Strong hashing/ciphers for LUKS; was Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
Thanks for all the replies in the previous thread! I've been doing some
reading and have another question. It seems the default for LUKS (as
displayed by `cryptsetup --help`) is:

aes-xts-plain64, Key: 256 bits
LUKS header hashing: sha1
RNG: /dev/urandom

I would like to have a high level of security. Can I use /dev/random
instead of /dev/urandom to have a more cryptographically-secure RNG? Or
will I run out of entropy and start blocking? Is the RNG used for
everyday use of the encrypted volume, or just the initial format? If
the latter, I can deal with some blocking as I generate additional
entropy.

I checked /proc/crypto, and I don't see anything stronger than sha1.
sha1 was beginning to be considered insecure in roughly 2005. Can I
somehow get support for sha512?

As for the cipher, I'm not too familiar on such things. cryptsetup(8)
says I can optionally set a key size of 512 bits with the -s option.
I do see options in /proc/crypto about xts-aes-aesni. Would this be
faster/better since it's using the AESNI instruction set on my CPU?

I have a (never-expiring) paste of my /proc/crypto at
https://paste.debian.net/167171/

Thank you all!


pgpVUpmq0lQCG.pgp
Description: OpenPGP digital signature


Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread David Christensen

On 04/16/2015 11:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

... I discovered the atom based box for $300 which are
great for a one stop solution for the machinery controls.  So this
phenom box was my last real build, 8 years (nominally) ago.


Please tell us about your Atom box(es).  (I've been eyeballing the 
D2500CC for IPCop.)



What machinery?



Switch it for a router running dd.wrt.


I'd love to, but my Netgear FVS318G isn't supported.



I could probably bring in the lappy from the shop, it has mint 14 on it
at the moment.  Bring it in and get an email agent working so I am not
exactly 100% locked out of help on the net. Some house cleaning is in
order to make room for it. Which I should probably get to already...


My ~1997 laptop has enough power to do simple desktop stuff, but not 
much more.  I'm starting to realize this is a good thing, because it 
forces me to do my experiments on other machines.  So, the laptop stays 
simple and working.




You then maintain your own local mirrors of the repos you need?


I set up a 5 GB HTTP proxy and hosts entry in IPCop, and added a line to 
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf in each machine:


Acquire::http::Proxy http://proxy:8080;;



Using amanda here, which has the bare metal recovery covered.
Small drive is relative, it will be a 1T Seagate thats about a year old.
This time I envision that 1T as a boot drive, the 2T as /home  /opt, and
temporarily another 1T for amanda. That drive is at about 65% of
capacity now  also has the shop machines included in its disklist.
But that drive now has 50,000 hours on it, so will likely be replaced by
the 2nd 2T I just bought, in due time of course.


So, 1 laptop, 1 desktop, 2 @ 1 TB drives (1 newer, 1 older), and 2 @ 2 
TB drives (both new)?  I assume the laptop has a HDD?



Do you know if the laptop or the desktop machine can use a USB flash 
drive as the system drive?  My 945 chipset and newer machines can do 
this.  It is one of the best cheap Linux tricks I've ever discovered.  I 
use the SanDisk Ultra Fit 16 GB USB 3.0, ($10.57 on Amazon), and they 
perform at least as well as small 7200 RPM HDD's; even on USB 2.0 ports.



I would recommend:

1.  Do a fresh install of Wheezy (!) with your favorite graphical 
desktop on the laptop, and move into that as your personal workstation.


2.  Get a small system drive for the Phenom box, do a fresh install of 
Wheezy (!) with or without X/ window manager/ graphical desktop, use the 
newer 1 TB drive for data, set up file serving (NFS, Samba, whatever), 
use the older 1 TB drive for Amanda, and use the 2 TB drives for copies 
of the Amanda archives (at least one off-site at all times).


3.  Buy or build a machine you can mess with (Jessie, whatever), and 
leave the other two alone.


4.  Consider building another Wheezy box for Amanda.


David


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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 April 2015 17:05:54 Harry Putnam wrote:
 My current sources.list:


 ,

 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
 |
 | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib
 | non-free
 |
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free

 `

 And a couple to keep certain wheeze software but not important for my
 question (included here just for completness only)
 ,

 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
 |
 | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
 | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free

 `

 In the first three, if I just change the word `jessie' to `testing' will
 that work seemlessly or lead to problems?

 I'm a little loath to just test it for fear of causing immediate
 problems, I mean testing beyond an `aptitude update' after changing all
 occurences of `jessie' to testing.

As opposed to problems in a fortnight?  If you change all of them, you will 
have a whirlwind as soon as Jessie becomes Stable.  If I were in your shoes, 
I would change the one reference to testing to Jessie.  Track Jessie into 
next month and change all references to Jessie to testing or Stretch then, 
when things have calmed down a little.

 Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
 any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
 thorough test?

It's no test at all.  At the moment testing and Jessie are the same thing. 

But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because everything will 
immediately update willy-nilly and out of your control, all at once, to 
Stretch (which will be the new testing).

I really should wait a few days if I were you.  If I were me I would wait at 
least a month!  

Lisi

 ---   ---   ---=---   ---   ---
 `aptitude update' included for more experienced eyes to check:

 (Oh, and incidently, can any one tell me what the indicator `Ign' just
 below Get: 4 below means I mean beyond `Ignore'?

 Does it mean I need to change something in my `sources.list'?)


 Get: 1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing InRelease [206 kB]
 Get: 2 http://security.debian.org testing/updates InRelease [84.1 kB]
 Get: 3 http://ftp.debian.org testing-updates InRelease [117 kB]
 Get: 4 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates InRelease [103 kB]

 Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy InRelease

 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release.gpg
 Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy Release
 Get: 5 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources [694 B]
 Get: 6 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources [14 B]
 Get: 7 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Sources [14 B]
 Get: 8 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main i386 Packages [516
 B] Get: 9 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib i386 Packages
 [14 B] Get: 10 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free i386
 Packages [14 B] Get: 11 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib
 Translation-en [14 B] Get: 12 http://security.debian.org
 testing/updates/main Translation-en [360 B] Get: 13
 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/non-free Translation-en [14 B]
 Get: 14 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources [168 kB]
 Get: 15 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib Sources [14 B]
 Get: 16 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free Sources [14 B]
 Get: 17 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages [307
 kB] Get: 18 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib i386 Packages
 [14 B] Get: 19 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free i386
 Packages [14 B] Get: 20 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/contrib
 Translation-en [523 B] Get: 21 http://security.debian.org
 wheezy/updates/main Translation-en [172 kB] Get: 22
 http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free Translation-en [14 B]
 Get: 23 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
 Get: 24 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources/DiffIndex [7,819
 B] Get: 25 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
 [7,819 B] Get: 26 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main i386
 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B] Get: 27 http://ftp.us.debian.org
 testing/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B] Get: 28
 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free i386 Packages/DiffIndex [7,819 B]
 Get: 29 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en/DiffIndex
 [7,819 B] Get: 30 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main
 Translation-en/DiffIndex [7,876 B] Get: 31 http://ftp.us.debian.org
 

Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread German
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:12:30 -0500
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
  Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be returns no 
  output, so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show any 
  wireless networks. Where to go from here? Thank you
 
 Does iwconfig show a wireless interface?
 
 $ /sbin/iwconfig 
 wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:my-name  
   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 44:...
   Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   
   Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
   Power Management:off
   Link Quality=64/70  Signal level=-46 dBm  
   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:6  Invalid misc:794   Missed beacon:0


Yes, it shows. When I ran ip link show, it says it is DOWN. Now how to get it 
UP? Thanks

 
 lono wireless extensions.
 
 eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
 $ 
 
 Cheers,
 David.
 
 
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How to enable non-free in jessie [was Re: Realtek firmware]

2015-04-16 Thread Jean-Marc
Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:27:43 -0400
German gentger...@gmail.com écrivait :

 [...]
 I don't think this is important what chip I have. I think that all realtek 
 firmware installs in one package. Right now I am wondering how to enable 
 non-free repo in Jessi. If you could tell me this, I'd appreciate it.

Add non-free to your sources.list

man -s 5 sources.list

See examples chapter.

Update your local repo:

apt-get update

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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/16/2015 04:11 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:


It's no test at all.  At the moment testing and Jessie are the same thing.

But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because everything will
immediately update willy-nilly and out of your control, all at once, to
Stretch (which will be the new testing).

I really should wait a few days if I were you.  If I were me I would wait at
least a month!

Lisi


That is the best advice he will get for free on the entire Internet. 
Keeping testing in one's sources-list is just like a red button. Red is 
never a good color to push. :) Ric




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Re: change sources.list to follow testing, not jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:11:06 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 16 April 2015 17:05:54 Harry Putnam wrote:
  My current sources.list:
 

 
  In the first three, if I just change the word `jessie' to `testing'
  will that work seemlessly or lead to problems?
 
  I'm a little loath to just test it for fear of causing immediate
  problems, I mean testing beyond an `aptitude update' after changing
  all occurences of `jessie' to testing.
 
 As opposed to problems in a fortnight?  If you change all of them,
 you will have a whirlwind as soon as Jessie becomes Stable.  If I
 were in your shoes, I would change the one reference to testing to
 Jessie.  Track Jessie into next month and change all references to
 Jessie to testing or Stretch then, when things have calmed down a
 little.
 
  Running `aptitude update' with the changes in place does not produce
  any output that looks problematice (to me).  But maybe that is not a
  thorough test?
 
 It's no test at all.  At the moment testing and Jessie are the same
 thing. 
 
 But it will be awful the day that Jessie goes Stable because
 everything will immediately update willy-nilly and out of your
 control, all at once, to Stretch (which will be the new testing).
 
 I really should wait a few days if I were you.  If I were me I would
 wait at least a month!  
 

However long the wait, the result will be the same. In fact, the longer
the wait, the more upgrades there will be in one go. Once the
floodgates open into the new Testing, there will be a similar upheaval
here in Sid, as software which has been kept back because it won't be
compatible with the initial new Testing (which has to be smoothly
upgraded from the present Testing) will then be dumped into Sid and
pushed into Testing as soon as the magic two weeks have passed without
complete disaster. Interesting times everywhere, except hopefully in the
new Stable.

This upgrade of old Testing to new Testing is the first real-world
preview of the *next* Stable upgrade, or at least some of it. I'm sure
a lot of thought has gone into preparing for it.

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Re: Supported hybrid PC/tablet computers

2015-04-16 Thread Nicolas George
Le septidi 27 germinal, an CCXXIII, Nicolas George a écrit :
 [ Re-sending due to a mixup with my from address; hopefully will arrive
 only once. ]

Sorry for the dup, it was a matter of seconds after more than an hour :(
Please disregard this mail and reply only on the other.

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Re: Strong hashing/ciphers for LUKS; was Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread Stephen R Guglielmo
Hi all,

After I sent the post below, I stumbled upon the cryptsetup FAQ
page[1]. It answered a lot of my concerns, including the SHA1 and the
cipher (plain, plain64, xts, essiv) issues.

[1]
https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/wikis/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

Thanks!

On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:07:25 -0400
Stephen R Guglielmo srguglie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for all the replies in the previous thread! I've been doing
 some reading and have another question. It seems the default for LUKS
 (as displayed by `cryptsetup --help`) is:
 
 aes-xts-plain64, Key: 256 bits
 LUKS header hashing: sha1
 RNG: /dev/urandom
 
 I would like to have a high level of security. Can I use /dev/random
 instead of /dev/urandom to have a more cryptographically-secure RNG?
 Or will I run out of entropy and start blocking? Is the RNG used for
 everyday use of the encrypted volume, or just the initial format? If
 the latter, I can deal with some blocking as I generate additional
 entropy.
 
 I checked /proc/crypto, and I don't see anything stronger than sha1.
 sha1 was beginning to be considered insecure in roughly 2005. Can I
 somehow get support for sha512?
 
 As for the cipher, I'm not too familiar on such things. cryptsetup(8)
 says I can optionally set a key size of 512 bits with the -s option.
 I do see options in /proc/crypto about xts-aes-aesni. Would this be
 faster/better since it's using the AESNI instruction set on my CPU?
 
 I have a (never-expiring) paste of my /proc/crypto at
 https://paste.debian.net/167171/
 
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Re: I need guidance about how to configure a newly installed Jessie

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/16/2015 03:00 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:


Why does the author of the WARNING presume that there is a different
person, other than the person reading the message who is the actual
'your system administration'? Has someone in NSA or CIA been assigned
to monitor me, and this message breaches global security because I
should not be allowed to know that I am being watch?

Help, please. Tell me what to read.


usually, with an upgrade, devices like eth0 becomes eth1. You might 
check your logs to see if something like that happened. That could 
possibly bugger up a previous ssh config. I do know that when Jessie 
is finally released, I am going to re-install it fresh. Happy hunting! Ric




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Re: wheezy drive recognition?

2015-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett

On Thursday 16 April 2015 16:28:15 Ric Moore wrote:
 On 04/16/2015 04:01 PM, David Christensen wrote:
  On 04/16/2015 11:19 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  ... I discovered the atom based box for $300 which are
  great for a one stop solution for the machinery controls.  So this
  phenom box was my last real build, 8 years (nominally) ago.
 
  Please tell us about your Atom box(es).  (I've been eyeballing the
  D2500CC for IPCop.)
 
 
  What machinery?

 Gene has a special install for his CNC setup, with a RTAI kernel. To
 me, ole Gene needs one machine dedicated to that and offload desktop
 stuff to another standard install.

Actually Ric, ole Gene has two machines dedicated to running the 
machinery and this is the one size fits all box.  But I have to keep it 
close enough kernelwise that it can run the LCNC simulator version in 
userspace.  So I can sit here in air conditioned comfort, write G-Code 
to do a job, and exersize that code on this machine, cutting electronic 
air.  When I am happy it works, then load it on the real machinery and 
make $400 worth of Mahogany and other considerably pricier stuff for 
trim, into a blanket chest that I sent a pix of to my youngest, who took 
a printout to work, and his co-workers all pronounced it to be Wood 
Porn  ;-)  I can't help it if they are buying their furniture from 
IKEA.

 Gene, regarding harddrive problems, check this out:
 http://www.sj-vs.net/forcing-a-hard-disk-to-reallocate-bad-sectors/
 I had one bad sector that gave everything else fits. This fixed it!
 Scared me to do it, but nothing blew up on reboot. Just a thought. Ric

Today they will do that automatically, from a pool of sectors reserved 
for that as they are made. You will not receive a notice that it has 
happened until te drive is out of spare sectors.

I did have a file that reserved all the bad sectors on an original ST-238 
on one of my coco's 25 years ago. I figured that when I got to the 40th, 
I had only 8 slots left in the file descriptor and bought a maxtor 7120s 
 a scsi interface.  End of that problem. :)

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Re: javaws

2015-04-16 Thread lina
Just notice

/etc/alternatives/javaws - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/javaws


change to 7 works.

Thanks,


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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/04/2015, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:

 SNIP

 Have you tried catalyst for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility
 Product Family your 6000 series is listed.
 http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx


 Hello.

 I assume something bad is in the source code of that web page (it is
 aspx, so, proprietary MS stuff), but, with two web browsers - Arora
 and rekonq, running on Debian 6, I can only see a bit at the op of the
 web page - no scroll bar or any way to get to the important stuff
 lower down on the web page.

 Publishing a web page about Linux stuff, in MS only format, is a bit
 weird.

 It is kind of like the manuafacturer (AMD) wants to hide its Linux
 stuff, from Linux users.

 It is nothing of the sort. The site Works fine in iceweasel on jessie.
 It should work on wheezy, which has the same version of iceweasel, too.

 Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security
 perspective if nothing else.



What it comes down to, has nothing to do with the version number of Debian.

What it came down to, is, the web page bien aspx shite, it requires
javascript (javashite).

I installed a 12.x version of opera (from my Debian 6 desktop system),
on this (Debian 7, running on the Acer E5-521-238Q) system,  and left
javascript enabled, and the web page works.

In going to the Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit option, as such packages are
usually .deb packages, and so, tend to work on Debian (which is how I
got Seamonkey installed and working on this system, from an old
version of Seamonkey.deb, that I had obtained), I downloaded and tried
to install the package.

I got a dependency problem;
Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: fglrx-core

So, I seached in Synaptic, for fglrx, and found

fglrx-driver;


non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver

FGLRX / AMD Catalyst is the non-free proprietary display driver for the
ATI/AMD RadeonHD and FireGL graphics cards. As an alternative, you may try
the newest free driver xserver-xorg-video-radeon.

This driver release supports the following graphics adapter families:
AMD Radeon HD 7000, AMD Radeon HD 6000, and AMD Radeon HD 5000.


So, I searched within Synaptic, for xserver-xorg-video-radeon .

I found that xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon, are
already installed.

The first has, in its package description;


X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper

This package provides the 'ati' driver for the AMD/ATI Mach64, Rage128,
Radeon, FireGL, FireMV, FirePro and FireStream series. This driver is
actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon'
sub-drivers depending on the hardware.
These sub-drivers are brought through package dependencies.

Users of Rage, Mach, or Radeon boards may remove this package only if
they use Driver r128, mach64, or radeon in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
instead of relying on autodetection.


and, for the secomd;


X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver

This package provides the 'radeon' driver for the AMD/ATI cards. The
following chips should be supported: R100, RV100, RS100, RV200, RS200,
RS250, R200, RV250, RV280, RS300, RS350, RS400/RS480, R300, R350, R360,
RV350, RV360, RV370, RV380, RV410, R420, R423/R430, R480/R481,
RV505/RV515/RV516/RV550, R520, RV530/RV560, RV570/R580,
RS600/RS690/RS740, R600, RV610/RV630, RV620/RV635, RV670, RS780/RS880,
RV710/RV730, RV740/RV770/RV790, CEDAR, REDWOOD, JUNIPER, CYPRESS,
HEMLOCK, PALM, SUMO/SUMO2, BARTS, TURKS, CAICOS, CAYMAN, ARUBA.


So, for Debian 7, two driver packages for AMD/ATI Radeon video things,
were already installed, but, they, apparently, do not cover the
applicable video controller.

And, the manufacturer's driver, apparently, can not be installed, due to
Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: fglrx-core

The Synaptic list of packages, returned in searching for fglrx, does
not include the unsatisfiable dependency package; fglrx-core.

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2015-04-16 Thread Dausacker
Socializando:

Conheça a história da primeira lei que obriga um estado a preferir
softwares livres no Brasil:

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Re: Debian 7 and external monitors and graphics adaptors

2015-04-16 Thread Ric Moore

On 04/16/2015 06:07 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On 2015-04-16, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote:

On 17/04/2015, Ric Moore wayward4...@gmail.com wrote:


SNIP


Have you tried catalyst for the AMD setup?? Under AMD Mobility
Product Family your 6000 series is listed.
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-9LINReleaseNotes.aspx



Hello.

I assume something bad is in the source code of that web page (it is
aspx, so, proprietary MS stuff), but, with two web browsers - Arora
and rekonq, running on Debian 6, I can only see a bit at the op of the
web page - no scroll bar or any way to get to the important stuff
lower down on the web page.

Publishing a web page about Linux stuff, in MS only format, is a bit
weird.

It is kind of like the manuafacturer (AMD) wants to hide its Linux
stuff, from Linux users.


It is nothing of the sort. The site Works fine in iceweasel on jessie.
It should work on wheezy, which has the same version of iceweasel, too.

Any browser you run in squeeze was EOL'ed years ago, from a security
perspective if nothing else.


I missed the bit about the OP running squeeze. At any rate he has three 
choices that I can find

Ubuntu 32bit
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+32
Ubuntu 64bit
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
Or just Linux (32 + 64bit)
http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86

Both Ubuntu versions are for 14.04 or better. The Linux version is a 
zip file. You need kernel header package installed to use that one as it 
will compile itself, like the nvidia driver from nvidia does. Ric




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Re: Hibernate option in Gnome menu? (Jessie)

2015-04-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.04.2015 um 00:40 schrieb W. Martin Borgert:
 Hi,
 
 I just upgraded my relatives notebook from wheezy to jessie,
 but now her hibernate option is gone from the right side menu.
 There is only shutdown, which changes to suspend with alt.
 Both are not needed by my relative, she always wants hibernate.
 Any idea how to get this back?
 Please without hacking text files nor installing software
 that is not in Debian, which I found searching the net.
 I'm confident that I just need gnome-tweak-tool, but I can't
 find the right toggle.

While you can configure the actions on power button, sleep button and
lid switch events (via dconf-editor or gsettings [1]), ttbomk there is
no config option to adjust gnome-shell and you'll need to resort to a
extension for this.

You can try
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/755/hibernate-status-button/
though. Seems to work fine here on Gnome / Jessie.


Michael

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Re: Wicd - no wireless networks found

2015-04-16 Thread メット


On 2015年4月17日 06:33:45 JST, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:05:26 +0200
albcares acbang...@gmail.com wrote:

 2015-04-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 German gentger...@gmail.com:
 
  On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:12:30 -0500
  David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:
 
   Quoting German (gentger...@gmail.com):
Ok, I installed realtek firmware, running modrpobe rtl8723be
returns
  no output, so I think my card is operational. But Wicd doesn't show
  any wireless networks. Where to go from here? Thank you
  
   Does iwconfig show a wireless interface?
  
   $ /sbin/iwconfig
   wlan0 IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:my-name
 Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 44:...
 Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
 Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
 Power Management:off
 Link Quality=64/70  Signal level=-46 dBm
 Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid
frag:0
 Tx excessive retries:6  Invalid misc:794   Missed
   beacon:0
 
 
  Yes, it shows. When I ran ip link show, it says it is DOWN. Now how
  to get it UP? Thanks
 
  
   lono wireless extensions.
  
   eth0  no wireless extensions.
  
   $
  
   Cheers,
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  hallo! as I'm not an expert I try to learn something out and
  about. have you ever tried - as root:
  # dhclient wlan0 (the label of your device)

This hangs for a while and exits. 
  # wlan0 up

Command not found. wlan0 is an interface, not a program.

Here is output of my few commands, maybe someone else can shed a light
on this:
 ip link show
1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
mode DEFAULT group default 
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 28:d2:44:d9:c1:33 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode
DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 38:b1:db:5e:64:79 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff


as you see wlan0 is down.

ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 28:d2:44:d9:c1:33  
   inet addr:192.168.0.103  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2ad2:44ff:fed9:c133/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:3116 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:1413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:3639821 (3.4 MiB)  TX bytes:116814 (114.0 KiB)

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
  RX packets:74 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:74 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:6572 (6.4 KiB)  TX bytes:6572 (6.4 KiB)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 38:b1:db:5e:64:79  
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)


Thanks for any suggestions.




 
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ifconfig wlan0 up
or
iwconfig wlan0 up
once it's up, u can invoke dhcp to get an address as said before:
dhclient wlan0
thing is, u need ur credentials set before hand with smtg like wpasupplicant 
(dont remember exact naming); as access points often have passwords and name.
also when using dhcp daemon u can add a v switch to see what s happening

dhclient -v wlan0

1. bring interface up
ifconfig wlan0 up
or
iwconfig wlan0 up
2. set up credentials in wpasupplicant config file
3. get an ip from dhcp daemon
dhclient -v wlan0
also useful to see which ap are around:
iwlist scan

hth


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Fwd: javaws

2015-04-16 Thread lina
Shall send to the list, sorry

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From: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: javaws
To: Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com


Yeah,

Error: The application has requested a version of the JRE (version
1.7+) that currently is not locally installed. Java Web Start is
unable to automatically download and install the requested version.

$ dpkg --get-selections | grep jre
default-jreinstall
default-jre-headlessinstall
gcj-4.9-jre-libinstall
icedtea-7-jre-jamvm:amd64install
openjdk-6-jre:amd64install
openjdk-6-jre-headless:amd64install
openjdk-6-jre-libinstall
openjdk-7-jre:amd64install
openjdk-7-jre-headless:amd64install
openjdk-8-jre:amd64install
openjdk-8-jre-headless:amd64install
sun-java6-jreinstall

$ dpkg --get-selections | grep icedt
icedtea-7-jre-jamvm:amd64install
icedtea-7-plugin:amd64install
icedtea-netx:amd64install
icedtea-netx-commoninstall



I think I need to tune the
default-jre   and something else related, seems the default icedtea using jre6,

Thanks, and if you have any further suggestion, just let me know.

Best,

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Liam O'Toole liam.p.oto...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2015-04-16, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 The problem raised when I tried to Launch Jalview Desktop in the
 following website:

 http://www.jalview.org/Help

 at the top, right corner, there is Launch Jalview Desktop.

 It worked very well in the past.  But today it is just not work as
 expected.

 I tried the /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaws, it
 showed me that Requesting JRE 1.7+.


 I installed openjdk-8-jre from sid, but it didn't contain the javaws.

 The javaws executable is provided by the icedtea-netx package.



 Any suggestions, thanks.


 Try running javaws directly on the linked resource at the command line,
 i.e.,

 javaws http://www.jalview.org/webstart/jalview.jnlp

 Do you see any error messages?

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Re: Encrypting an External HDD

2015-04-16 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:30:04 -0700
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote:

...

 /dev/random is for cryptographically secure random numbers, such as for 
 cryptographic keys.  It requires a source of entropy to operate, and 
 will block until entropy is available.  Thus, on most desktop computers, 
 it is only suitable for small amounts of random numbers.

...

 /dev/urandom is for non-cryptographic/ low-security random numbers, such 
 as for games.  It will use entropy as available, otherwise it will 
 mathematically generate pseudo-random numbers.  It does not block and 
 can generate large amounts of random data quickly, but is vulnerable to 
 attack.

I don't think it's quite this simple:

1) OpenSSl thinks /dev/urandom is good enough for crypto:
https://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#USER1

2) Perl's Math::Random::Secure also thinks it's generally good enough:
http://search.cpan.org/~mkanat/Math-Random-Secure-0.06/lib/Math/Random/Secure.pm#Making_Math::Random::Secure_Even_More_Secure

3) Read these guys (don't know how correct they are):

http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/
http://sockpuppet.org/blog/2014/02/25/safely-generate-random-numbers/

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