Re: Pooched on upgrading to new stable
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Don Armstrong wrote: Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Nice ikiwiki homepage! -- These are not the droids you are looking for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/nycvar.QRO.7.75.3.1506191939200.1546@arjgebyy.ybpnyqbznva
Re: Dlna client and backup
On 06/19/2015 07:04 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 6/19/15, notoneofmy wrote: Thanks a lot. I will give this a try. But to be clear, would this backup the entire system and restore it, in the event of a crash of something going horribly wrong? I'm hoping it to be like the Time Machine for linux; is that what it does? Just a related side-note'ish kinda thing. I learned the hard way that for whatever *_CHOICE_* we each make for producing backups, *MANUALLY VERIFY* that the product is capturing hidden files, as well.. A while back I mentioned I use rsync for my "backups", and I remember someone had "objected", for lack of a better word this sec. I cognitively wasn't able to grasp why outside of someone was advising rsync as is isn't the best The ah-ha moment came maybe a month or two later. I needed to rely on my rsync produced backups. They #FAILed because the /home/user hidden files were non-existent. While some files are easy enough to reproduce in that case, it was the missing /home/user/.config directory shtuff that was the absolute heartbreaker that fateful day. :) A Life Lesson Learned the Hard Way... AGAIN. :D Cindy :) I missed the beginning of this thread. What is the recommended app to backup an entire directory, WITH hidden files? --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5584a970.5050...@optonline.net
Re: Dlna client and backup
On 6/19/15, notoneofmy wrote: > > Thanks a lot. I will give this a try. But to be clear, would this backup > the entire system and restore it, in the event of a crash of something > going horribly wrong? I'm hoping it to be like the Time Machine for > linux; is that what it does? Just a related side-note'ish kinda thing. I learned the hard way that for whatever *_CHOICE_* we each make for producing backups, *MANUALLY VERIFY* that the product is capturing hidden files, as well.. A while back I mentioned I use rsync for my "backups", and I remember someone had "objected", for lack of a better word this sec. I cognitively wasn't able to grasp why outside of someone was advising rsync as is isn't the best The ah-ha moment came maybe a month or two later. I needed to rely on my rsync produced backups. They #FAILed because the /home/user hidden files were non-existent. While some files are easy enough to reproduce in that case, it was the missing /home/user/.config directory shtuff that was the absolute heartbreaker that fateful day. :) A Life Lesson Learned the Hard Way... AGAIN. :D Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with plastic sporks * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kBKTfuv8U8DFC1ZQh5mC3Ecx4KEufqSwmk=bh8kws8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Pooched on upgrading to new stable
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Michael Bonert wrote: > I decided to upgrade to the latest 'stable'. > > On reboot, I see gdm3 launch in the boot sequence which presumably starts > X11. I then get a black screen. It is as if X11 loads -- but get stuck. It > doesn't crash. I can't jump to a terminal. You can use the single user mode (add single to the boot line in grub or whatever you're using for the macbook) and check out what is going on in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Alternatively, you can try logging into the machine remotely and viewing the same file. That will give you more details about what precisely X is doing when it fails. [Considering that this is a macbook, it wouldn't surprise me that it was some driver or monitor related issue, as those machines don't get tested very much by anyone.] -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com But if, after all, we are on the wrong track, what then? Only disappointed human hopes, nothing more. And even if we perish, what will it matter in the endless cycles of eternity? -- Fridtjof Nansen _Farthest North_ p152 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619220631.GB2069@geta
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 06/19/2015 05:58 AM, Bret Busby wrote: ii nvidia-prime0.5~hybrid0.0.3 Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime Google this, for the love of $DEITY$ http://askubuntu.com/questions/363775/what-is-the-use-of-nvidia-prime -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558491f9.7050...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 06/19/2015 02:07 PM, Reco wrote: I would rather use Debian 6, as it has the superior interface, to the later Debian versions, and to Ubuntu, but, to use Debian 6, I have to use a lesser computer. Ah, I get it now. So, layman's terms put aside, you like to use GNOME2 and not GNOME3. And that Ubuntu's Unity is just not your cup of tea. Well, they don't argue about tastes, as they say. Ever tried this Mate thing? Same GNOME2, only it's supported (as of wheezy and jessie) and every program is called funny. THIS is what all of this boils down to? We've all been taken down this intellectual memory lane trip so you could use Gnome2? With space-age chipsets? I coulda had a V-8! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558490e9.5010...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor working on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Friday 19 June 2015 22:51:40 Ric Moore wrote: > On 06/19/2015 02:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > No, it wouldn't solve the problem. He can get Ubuntu going to his > > satisfaction, but he cannot get Debian going to his satisfaction. > > ...running Squeeze, a 5 year old OS, while expecting it will be > maintained at Wheezy/Jessie level. We've beaten that horse so much is > approaches abuse to the gentle readers. :/ Ric As I say, he can't get Debian going to *his* *satisfaction*. ;-) I didn't say that his demands/expectations were reasonable! He says that he can't get Wheezy going either, but so far he has never actually done exactly what has been suggested. I.e., he sets himself up to fail. But he likes Ubuntu. So the obvious solution is to use Ubuntu and stop flogging this poor already dead horse. And since he likes Gnome 2 but not Unity, Ubuntu with Mate (or Cinnamon). But that would (potentially) be a solution. I don't think he likes solutions. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506192259.44307.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 06/19/2015 02:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: No, it wouldn't solve the problem. He can get Ubuntu going to his satisfaction, but he cannot get Debian going to his satisfaction. ...running Squeeze, a 5 year old OS, while expecting it will be maintained at Wheezy/Jessie level. We've beaten that horse so much is approaches abuse to the gentle readers. :/ Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55848eec.5070...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 06/19/2015 12:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed stable, and "released". If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. If he would just take "squeeze" out of the equation, it ~might~ help. From what I read it won't be a simple matter of installing a nvidia driver. He's got this video chip hybrid from Hell, and Bumblebee is ~supposed~ to be the cure. If it were me, I would install Jessie so fast it would make your head spin. I would want my OS to be as recent as my chipsets (only two years old) Others report success, with Bumblebee, but there is quite a bit of hand-wringing going on. My two cents, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55848d31.4060...@gmail.com
Re: libvirt, dnsmasq, and resolvconf
Laine Stump provided this useful info on the libvirt-users list: This commit (which was included in libvirt 1.2.12) may help you to a solution: commit 298fa4858ced29e2c42681635a5a8dcd6da0b231 Author: Josh Stone Date: Wed Dec 3 16:01:33 2014 -0800 network: Let domains be restricted to local DNS This adds a new "localOnly" attribute on the domain element of the network xml. With this set to "yes", DNS requests under that domain will only be resolved by libvirt's dnsmasq, never forwarded upstream. This was how it worked before commit f69a6b987d616, and I found that functionality useful. For example, I have my host's NetworkManager dnsmasq configured to forward that domain to libvirt's dnsmasq, so I can easily resolve guest names from outside. But if libvirt's dnsmasq doesn't know a name and forwards it to the host, I'd get an endless forwarding loop. Now I can set localOnly="yes" to prevent the loop. So it sounds like the proper thing to do is to set the localOnly attribute and put the libvirt network in a subdomain, then point the dnsmasq on the host to the libvirt dns for that subdomain. [Comment by Ross: It seems this addresses my concern about a loop between different copies of dnsmasq, at least if used with judicious domain assignment. Unfortunately, libvirt >= 1.2.12 is only available in stretch/testing, which is currently at 1.2.16.] Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAK3NTRBZqLJCRcJTeE3wDt45PZejQ7x3e-6r=wz3rd0zthi...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problems with 32 bit Jessie and Mate DE
On Friday 19 June 2015 21:03:44 Nick wrote: > On 17/06/15 17:56, Curt wrote: > > That's strange; I always thought you had to set the hardware clock > > (hwclock) for the modified date and time to survive a reboot. > > I always thought the current time on the system clock was saved back to > the hardware clock again during shutdown too. That's what I understood. (Mutatis mutandis for UTC and local time.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506192130.25727.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Problems with 32 bit Jessie and Mate DE
On 17/06/15 17:56, Curt wrote: > That's strange; I always thought you had to set the hardware clock > (hwclock) for the modified date and time to survive a reboot. > > I always thought the current time on the system clock was saved back to the hardware clock again during shutdown too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558475a0.1060...@nickbooker.uk
Re: Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults
On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 11:55 -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > for emacs23, or at least I can't find any. I'm not yet ready to install > emacs24 because I have some confidence that the problem won't occur with > emacs24, just as it doesn't occur with my built emacs23. But I'll still > have the problem so I'm going to keep the native emacs23 for a bit > longer to see if I can come up with a more general solution. Oh, my mistake then, you are running wheezy? I guess it didn't have -dbg for emacs back then. > seem to indicate some significant differences. Just for posterity, > does > anyone have any insight into how one can build the identical Debian > binary to that installed? How did you build it, from upstream source? Debian might add patches and use different configuration options. Even so, it's not really a guarantee for an identical binary, and I'm guessing that compiling and stripping debug info, (to later load it with gdb) might also interfere. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Reco wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:38:12 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: >> Maybe the USB hardware implementation is better in the N900? The one >> in the Pi is quite bad and finicky. > I happen to have Pi too. Not that I need an NFS server on it, NFS > client is sufficient for my needs, but still. >> In addition to that, data transfer via USB is quite CPU-intensive, as >> Petter wrote and overwhelms the single CPU core of the Pi if it needs to >> drive the SD card at the same time. > Hm. I plugged an Ethernet cable into it, read and wrote a big file via > NFS. Got consistent 50mbps. Where did you write the file to and from? You said your Pi is a NFS client so I assume you wrote a file to a server and read it back from there. > According to iperf, I could go as high as 82.2 mbps. Not the fair > gigabit I have on this LAN, but close to theoretical 100mbit limit of > the NIC. iperf does no file I/O so nearly every CPU cylce can be used for the USB transfer. > During the NFS test, two kernel threads were the worst CPU > consumers, kworker/0 and ksoftirqd/0. > During the iperf test, the worst CPU consumers were iperf itself and > ksoftirqd/0. > According to the /proc/interrupts, the top interrupt consumer was > IRQ32, which is: > dwc_otg, dwc_otg_pcd, dwc_otg_hcd:usb1 That is the driver for the USB port, a DesignWare OnTheGo USB controller. The controller is able to drive the USB port as either a host or a client. This chip and the driver are a constant "work in progress" and depending on the kernel version and the firmware your luck with the USB port on the Pi might be better or worse. For example: http://ludovicrousseau.blogspot.de/2014/04/usb-issues-with-raspberry-pi.html So maybe by updating the bootloader and GPU firmware to the latest from https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware one might be able to improve the situation. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7bn4gvfph...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Reco wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:38:12 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: > What I suspect was happening with your NFS server is the multiple > knfsd threads in D-state (i.e. blocked by iowait by slof MMC card) > *plus* this USB Ethernet interrupts. I'd start with lowering knfsd > count. That would also be my first step. I would lower RPCNFSDCOUNT to 2. >> If the source or destination of the transmitted data is on an USB >> medium it gets even worse because all USB ports share the same root >> port on the SoC. > I'm too lazy to check it, so I'll trust you on this. Data enters the SoC through USB from the ethernet chip and then is pushed out on the same shared bus to the USB disk. This absolutely kills the Pi. >> Besides: I always found the load on Linux NFS servers to be higher >> than on a Samba-Server with equal throughput. I guess the calculation >> of the load is different for the NFS kernel server process than for >> userland fileservices. > I have to trust you on this too. Never bothered myself with inferior > network filesystems (Samba) due to the existence of superior one > (NFS4). Well, if you want to serve files to many different operating systems you cannot always use the tools you want if you are not able to control the protocol the client wants or need to speak. > And, speaking of those network filesystems. Have you tried to use iSCSI > to do whatever you're trying to do with NFS? What about a simple sshfs? sshfs couples the problems of the USB network port with the slow ARM-CPU doing crypto stuff. You won't win any speed records with that combination. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6bn4gjrph...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Hi. On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:38:12 +0200 Sven Hartge wrote: > Reco wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 02:47:20PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:09:45 +0200 > >> basti wrote: > >>> On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: > basti wrote: > > > iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS > > card (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). > > More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because > the CPU is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. > > Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to > 45MBit/s, but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. > > >>> The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. > >> > >> The load is so high because USB is very CPU-intensive. If you were to > >> use the on-board Ethernet, you would not see such a high load. > > > What? Are you serious? I have this Nokia N900 lying behind me which is > > connected by IP-via-USB (aka usbnet aka g_ether) and with the order of > > magnitude slower ARM CPU it reliably shows 40mbps with no noticeable > > load. > > Maybe the USB hardware implementation is better in the N900? The one in > the Pi is quite bad and finicky. I happen to have Pi too. Not that I need an NFS server on it, NFS client is sufficient for my needs, but still. > In addition to that, data transfer via USB is quite CPU-intensive, as > Petter wrote and overwhelms the single CPU core of the Pi if it needs to > drive the SD card at the same time. Hm. I plugged an Ethernet cable into it, read and wrote a big file via NFS. Got consistent 50mbps. According to iperf, I could go as high as 82.2 mbps. Not the fair gigabit I have on this LAN, but close to theoretical 100mbit limit of the NIC. During the NFS test, two kernel threads were the worst CPU consumers, kworker/0 and ksoftirqd/0. During the iperf test, the worst CPU consumers were iperf itself and ksoftirqd/0. According to the /proc/interrupts, the top interrupt consumer was IRQ32, which is: dwc_otg, dwc_otg_pcd, dwc_otg_hcd:usb1 On the other hand, a simple cat /dev/zero > file test provided me with 100% iowait, but no actual CPU usage. Perf mysteriously failed on me. It did record something, but 'perf report' refused me to show anything. Must be something with this custom Raspbian kernel. So, I agree that using Pi's Ethernet interface eats CPU, but saying 'USB eats CPU' is oversimplifying thing quite a bit. Specifically, if NFS is involved. What I suspect was happening with your NFS server is the multiple knfsd threads in D-state (i.e. blocked by iowait by slof MMC card) *plus* this USB Ethernet interrupts. I'd start with lowering knfsd count. > If the source or destination of the transmitted data is on an USB medium > it gets even worse because all USB ports share the same root port on the > SoC. I'm too lazy to check it, so I'll trust you on this. > Besides: I always found the load on Linux NFS servers to be higher than > on a Samba-Server with equal throughput. I guess the calculation of the > load is different for the NFS kernel server process than for userland > fileservices. I have to trust you on this too. Never bothered myself with inferior network filesystems (Samba) due to the existence of superior one (NFS4). And, speaking of those network filesystems. Have you tried to use iSCSI to do whatever you're trying to do with NFS? What about a simple sshfs? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619222457.216fb96452d765f16fb17...@gmail.com
Re: Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults
I apologize, Sven, for not following up on your suggestion. Or rather for not mentioning my followup in my last post. I did look at the available symbols packages. However, there aren't any symbols available for emacs23, or at least I can't find any. I'm not yet ready to install emacs24 because I have some confidence that the problem won't occur with emacs24, just as it doesn't occur with my built emacs23. But I'll still have the problem so I'm going to keep the native emacs23 for a bit longer to see if I can come up with a more general solution. Regards, Paul Ausbeck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55846585.3080...@alumni.cse.ucsc.edu
Bug with xdg-utils / xdg-open / gvfs-open
Hey guys, I wanted to report a bug, but reportbug is completely broken on Ubuntu. So, I have the following issue with xdg-open, which is not the fault of xdg-utils, but an issue with gvfs: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91027 Can somebody please file a bug accordingly? Everything that you need to know is inside the already reported bug. For end users that are not core-debian developers, filing a bug is close to impossible. Regards from Germany, Christoph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558462be.9060...@gmail.com
Re: Moving from 56k modem
Reco wrote: > Please don't do so. Ssh only provides SOCKS4 proxy, and SOCKS4 can not tunnel > DNS requests (or any UDP traffic for that matter). How old is your information on that? Even in Squeeze the man-page for ssh says: , | Currently the SOCKS4 and SOCKS5 protocols are supported, and ssh will | act as a SOCKS server. ` Grüße, S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5bn4dbgph...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Friday 19 June 2015 19:40:11 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:31:56 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote: > > > On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is > > > >> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its > > > >> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only > > > >> bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are > > > >> deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, > > > >> and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like > > > >> when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close > > > >> down production for three days every christmas, with only repairs > > > >> and maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown > > > >> of production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over > > > >> (for as long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is > > > >> decreed stable, and "released". > > > > > > > > If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. > > > > > > And that is the attitude of software developers, that some software > > > engineering lecturers who are worth their salt, warn against, as it > > > leads to the disrepute of the IT industry. > > > > Nonsense. It is impossible to produce an OS that everybody likes. Most > > people like Windows after all. > > I disagree. While most people use Windows, it may not involve liking. > Most of the either don't care, or don't have a choice. And given such, > they might use Macs or Linux as well. > > > Use something you like. Don't complain about > > something that many of us love and expect it to be changed just to suit > > you. > > IMO complaining is perfectly fine *as long* as it comes with > constructive criticism. I agree that complaining for the sake of it is > annoying :) > > > There is enough choice out there, after all. Have you tried Ubuntu with > > Mate? > > Or, better yet, Debian with Mate. No, it wouldn't solve the problem. He can get Ubuntu going to his satisfaction, but he cannot get Debian going to his satisfaction. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191951.37207.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Hi. On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 19:31:56 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote: > > On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: > > >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is > > >> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its > > >> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only > > >> bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are > > >> deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, > > >> and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like > > >> when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down > > >> production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and > > >> maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of > > >> production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as > > >> long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed > > >> stable, and "released". > > > > > > If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. > > > > And that is the attitude of software developers, that some software > > engineering lecturers who are worth their salt, warn against, as it > > leads to the disrepute of the IT industry. > > Nonsense. It is impossible to produce an OS that everybody likes. Most > people like Windows after all. I disagree. While most people use Windows, it may not involve liking. Most of the either don't care, or don't have a choice. And given such, they might use Macs or Linux as well. > Use something you like. Don't complain about > something that many of us love and expect it to be changed just to suit you. IMO complaining is perfectly fine *as long* as it comes with constructive criticism. I agree that complaining for the sake of it is annoying :) > There is enough choice out there, after all. Have you tried Ubuntu with > Mate? Or, better yet, Debian with Mate. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619214011.ee112c6a375653e58c8ca...@gmail.com
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Reco wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 02:47:20PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:09:45 +0200 >> basti wrote: >>> On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: basti wrote: > iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS > card (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. >>> The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. >> >> The load is so high because USB is very CPU-intensive. If you were to >> use the on-board Ethernet, you would not see such a high load. > What? Are you serious? I have this Nokia N900 lying behind me which is > connected by IP-via-USB (aka usbnet aka g_ether) and with the order of > magnitude slower ARM CPU it reliably shows 40mbps with no noticeable > load. Maybe the USB hardware implementation is better in the N900? The one in the Pi is quite bad and finicky. In addition to that, data transfer via USB is quite CPU-intensive, as Petter wrote and overwhelms the single CPU core of the Pi if it needs to drive the SD card at the same time. If the source or destination of the transmitted data is on an USB medium it gets even worse because all USB ports share the same root port on the SoC. Besides: I always found the load on Linux NFS servers to be higher than on a Samba-Server with equal throughput. I guess the calculation of the load is different for the NFS kernel server process than for userland fileservices. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/4bn4bukph...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Friday 19 June 2015 18:49:38 Bret Busby wrote: > On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: > >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is > >> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its > >> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only > >> bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are > >> deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, > >> and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like > >> when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down > >> production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and > >> maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of > >> production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as > >> long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed > >> stable, and "released". > > > > If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. > > And that is the attitude of software developers, that some software > engineering lecturers who are worth their salt, warn against, as it > leads to the disrepute of the IT industry. Nonsense. It is impossible to produce an OS that everybody likes. Most people like Windows after all. Use something you like. Don't complain about something that many of us love and expect it to be changed just to suit you. There is enough choice out there, after all. Have you tried Ubuntu with Mate? It sounds as though that might be quite close to something you like. But find something you like and stop complaining that Debian Stable is stable. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191931.56916.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Hi. On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 01:45:42 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote: > > > > > And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian > > oldstable? > > > > As should be shown by examining the full headers of this and other > messages not explicitly sent from the Debian installations, I am using > Ubuntu 12.04, except where necessary for attempts to get the Debian > installations working. I did not meant any offense, sorry just in case. BTW which particular header do you have in mind? Because whatever MUA you're using does not supply X-Mailer header. And judging by the lowest 'Received', this e-mail I'm replying to was send via GMail web interface. > I would rather use Debian 6, as it has the superior interface, to the > later Debian versions, and to Ubuntu, but, to use Debian 6, I have to > use a lesser computer. Ah, I get it now. So, layman's terms put aside, you like to use GNOME2 and not GNOME3. And that Ubuntu's Unity is just not your cup of tea. Well, they don't argue about tastes, as they say. Ever tried this Mate thing? Same GNOME2, only it's supported (as of wheezy and jessie) and every program is called funny. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619210742.67f8bd287a51a80ba7f86...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 20/06/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: >> Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is >> "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its >> packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only >> bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are >> deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, >> and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like >> when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down >> production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and >> maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of >> production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as >> long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed >> stable, and "released". > > If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. > And that is the attitude of software developers, that some software engineering lecturers who are worth their salt, warn against, as it leads to the disrepute of the IT industry. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8o5eyv3mmref1w49oe-jnzhzbws7vbm5j-0qvn-v-b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 20/06/2015, Reco wrote: > > And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian > oldstable? > As should be shown by examining the full headers of this and other messages not explicitly sent from the Debian installations, I am using Ubuntu 12.04, except where necessary for attempts to get the Debian installations working. I would rather use Debian 6, as it has the superior interface, to the later Debian versions, and to Ubuntu, but, to use Debian 6, I have to use a lesser computer. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8N_9KrmUOTqFgNqDmEC3YXDtXSoa2FMkBxw=pd79fy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 20/06/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted, >>> confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago? >> >> As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for >> about two years, now, to get Debian working on this computer, so that >> it can work with the external monitor. >> >> The status of Debian Linux, with the computer, is that it is partly >> functional, like some printers are apparently partly functional with >> Linux. > > The status of Debian Squeeze, you mean. As has has been previously mentioned, it applies equally with Debian 7. I had been trying for most of the last couple of years, to get it working with Debian 7. Because Debian 6 worked with another laptop of the same brand, with an nvidia geforce gt device, I tried that on this computer. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8Nd=38nWW_a=ti21eh2zqbboetqm6zxbose_cmy_fz...@mail.gmail.com
Icedove Mail Forwarding Problem
When I try to forward an email containing images Icedove does not send the images just some text about the images. Is there a setting I have wrong? Nothing I find in preferences seems to relate to this. There is a hack: Icedove will convert the email to a pdf file which can be attached to a message. Tom
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted, >> confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago? > > As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for > about two years, now, to get Debian working on this computer, so that > it can work with the external monitor. > > The status of Debian Linux, with the computer, is that it is partly > functional, like some printers are apparently partly functional with > Linux. The status of Debian Squeeze, you mean. As far as I know your new-fangled graphical doohickey is not supported by Debian Squeeze. The latter is no longer evolving; it is in a security-support stasis which precedes mummification. Backports appears to be of little help in your case either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo8jlm.2rs.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
Hi. On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 23:54:12 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for > about two years, now, to get Debian working on this computer, so that > it can work with the external monitor. > > The status of Debian Linux, with the computer, is that it is partly > functional, like some printers are apparently partly functional with > Linux. Tough luck. I can recall multiple instances of hardware where Linux did not boot at all. If that particular hardware does not do whatever you need from it - maybe it's time to get a different video card? > Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is > "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its > packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only > bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are > deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, > and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like > when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down > production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and > maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of > production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as > long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed > stable, and "released". You've just quoted the definition of stable. Us, users of stable, like it exactly the way it is. But - nobody is forcing to use it. Don't like stable? Use testing. Or sid. > And so,I have been trying for about two years, to get Debian Linux > workiing on this computer, to the extent that it can, like Ubuntu > 12.04, drive the external monitor, and transfer the display > completely, to the external monitor, when the external monitor is > connected. > > And, I have not yet, been able to achieve that. And then again - if Ubuntu satisfies your needs, why suffer with Debian oldstable? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619193415.07e3bb5ac8a1142d8777f...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Friday 19 June 2015 16:54:12 Bret Busby wrote: > Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is > "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its > packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only > bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are > deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, > and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like > when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down > production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and > maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of > production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as > long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed > stable, and "released". If you don't like it, don't use it. No-one is making you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191723.18698.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:50:17 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: >> I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation. > > It's not loading neither the nouveau nor the nvidia driver, is one of > them correctly installed, and is the kernel module loaded? > As previously mentioned, in following advice previously given, as the nvidia packages were not working to drive the external monitor, the nvidia packages were removed, and installation of other various solutions, including bumblebee, then intel drivers (I believe due to the presence of an Intel inboard HD device in addition to the nvidia device), were attempted. Rebooting was done after each of removing and installing graphics driver package sets. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8PJk1PEAxX=W27G44HrdFBy2UrVQy1z9-dHoH-oOzr=a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Curt wrote: > On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to >> it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, >> I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph. > > Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted, > confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago? > As I have, I believe, previously mentioned, I have been trying for about two years, now, to get Debian working on this computer, so that it can work with the external monitor. The status of Debian Linux, with the computer, is that it is partly functional, like some printers are apparently partly functional with Linux. Unfortunately, it appears that once a version of Debian Linux is "released" and decreed stable, development of that version and its packages, ceases, and it goes into maintenance mode, so that only bugfixes and security vulnerabilities, are performed, if they are deemed serious enough, and, for the packages that are not abandoned, and, development of the version and its packages, is abandoned, like when I once worked at a pulp and paper mill, which used to close down production for three days every christmas, with only repairs and maintenance and cleaning being done, except here, the shutdown of production, becomes permanent, and maintenance mode takes over (for as long as the maintenance is performed), once a version is decreed stable, and "released". And so,I have been trying for about two years, to get Debian Linux workiing on this computer, to the extent that it can, like Ubuntu 12.04, drive the external monitor, and transfer the display completely, to the external monitor, when the external monitor is connected. And, I have not yet, been able to achieve that. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8odcwwhgcrkgh5u-kjzh6grem6wceoztynlftsro9w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
On 06/19/2015 at 08:44 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:25:37 +0100 Michael Fothergill > wrote: > >>> Do you have this package installed? What does "apt-cache policy >>> linux-firmware-nonfree" say? >>> >> >> It says unable to locate linux-firmware-nonfree >> >> ie it's not installed I guess > > That message means that apt-cache can't find that package at all. If > you have recently added non-free to sources.list you will need to > run "apt-get update". After doing that, it should be available to > install via "apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree". I noticed that the sources.list contents which were posted listed 'nonfree', with no hyphen. Every other sources.list reference to non-free I've ever seen has included the hyphen, and a quick test with dropping the hyphen on my own system results in errors on 'apt-get update'. I suspect that the omitted hyphen means his system is not actually seeing non-free at all. I would suggest adding the hyphen and trying again. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Open URLs in Icedove emails in Iceweasel, how?
Am 2015-06-19 16:52, schrieb Ken Heard: I am using Jessie with the latest versions of icedove (31.7.0-1) and iceweasel (31.7.0esr-1~deb-8ul) installed. update-alternatives - --config x-www-browser already points to iceweasel %u. In addition file ~/mozilla/icedove/9vgk89rr.default/user.js contains the following two lines: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "iceweasel %u"); user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "iceweasel %u") But still I cannot open URLs in icedove emails automatically in iceweasel. What else do I need to do to activate this feature? You can try to set a default browser explicitly: xdg-mime default iceweasel.desktop x-scheme-handler/http \ x-scheme-handler/https Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1df897de66ca71be4738919239b6d...@iwakd.de
Open URLs in Icedove emails in Iceweasel, how?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using Jessie with the latest versions of icedove (31.7.0-1) and iceweasel (31.7.0esr-1~deb-8ul) installed. update-alternatives - --config x-www-browser already points to iceweasel %u. In addition file ~/mozilla/icedove/9vgk89rr.default/user.js contains the following two lines: user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "iceweasel %u"); user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.https", "iceweasel %u") But still I cannot open URLs in icedove emails automatically in iceweasel. What else do I need to do to activate this feature? Regards and thanks in advance for any help provided, Ken Heard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlWELKIACgkQlNlJzOkJmTeGnQCfZtHPvksRh+vzJB3qEGyvpcBJ lZ0An27HuWClr3xNTyeOenwfAJt67Adg =Lloc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55842ca2.5060...@teksavvy.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:50:17 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation. It's not loading neither the nouveau nor the nvidia driver, is one of them correctly installed, and is the kernel module loaded? For Squeeze, I simply do not know. There might not *be* a driver for your GPU available for Squeeze. From what I can find at packages.debian.org, it doesn't look like it. v295 from backports is most likely far too old. The packages available from nVidia's website will most likely not work in Squeeze, either, as your kernel and X will be too old. It would probably be more worthwhile to try and get something close to v331 of the nvidia driver up and running on Wheezy. It seems the version in Wheezy is 304, with 334 in backports. I would try the backports one, if I were you: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ The package you want is called "nvidia-driver". Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpIux8d0o5rp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
kmail - where are the certificates stored
Dear debian users, as I have some problem in kmail with TLS and smtp, I would like to delete the certificate for this special server without deleting the configuration for this server. It would be nice, if you could tell me, where can I find the certificate(s) to delete this special one. Thanks for the enlightening. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2118093.se8DFDxm91@protheus7
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 2015-06-19, Bret Busby wrote: > > Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to > it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, > I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph. Didn't we already go through this once with you in a long, protracted, confused and confusing thread, the exact same issue, not too long ago? > See below for Ubuntu 12.04 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo866l.2rs.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On 2015-06-19, Steve Greig wrote: > > Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free > Software despite technical challenges. > Well, then, do like Reco said to do. Then, apt-get update followed by apt-get -t wheezy-backports jmptfs (this might pull in fuse or other dependency packages; just say yes) Usage: Make a mountpoint somewhere: mkdir ~/android_phone jmptfs android_phone (after plugging your phone in to a usb port) fusermount -u android_phone to unmount I thinks that's it anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo857v.2rs.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Am 19.06.2015 um 14:47 schrieb Petter Adsen: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:09:45 +0200 > basti wrote: > >> The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. >> >> On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: >>> basti wrote: >>> iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). >>> More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU >>> is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. >>> >>> Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, >>> but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. > > The load is so high because USB is very CPU-intensive. If you were to > use the on-board Ethernet, you would not see such a high load. The pi has no on-board ethernet. The ethernet port is attached via USB. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Hi. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 02:47:20PM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:09:45 +0200 > basti wrote: > > > The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. > > > > On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: > > > basti wrote: > > > > > >> iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card > > >> (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). > > > More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU > > > is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. > > > > > > Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, > > > but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. > > The load is so high because USB is very CPU-intensive. If you were to > use the on-board Ethernet, you would not see such a high load. What? Are you serious? I have this Nokia N900 lying behind me which is connected by IP-via-USB (aka usbnet aka g_ether) and with the order of magnitude slower ARM CPU it reliably shows 40mbps with no noticeable load. There are countless things I'd blame in this situation (large amounts of sync I/O from knfsd, relatively small amount of memory for a NFS server, HUEG read/write latency of MMC card), but blaming the type of Ethernet connection is the last thing I'd do. Regardless, there's a way to see the cause of all this trouble. Relatively new, but demonstrative one: perf record --a perf report perf.data Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619130248.gb20...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Friday 19 June 2015 13:45:55 Steve Greig wrote: > It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is > not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be > downloaded. It doesn't usually. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191402.17955.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: make oldconfig bzImage
On Friday 19 June 2015 13:50:54 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:10:16AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 07:29:19 Dhiraj Bhor wrote: > > [...] > > > > Ohh excuses for top posting. > > > I read about top and bottom posting. > > > Hope this will help. > > > > Except that you have also broken the threading and not quoted anything > > useful. I have completely lost track of what the problem was. > > > > Each email should be basically self contained so that one can read it and > > make out what is going on, because it contains all the needed information > > in the right order. > > Don't be too tough. I recommended Dhiraj to come here after a short > personal exchange, because I'm not a real expert in this topic. It would be > a pity if (s)he gets treated badly here. > > I know, conventions and that. I too definitely prefer bottom posting and > selective quoting, but no need to be unfriendly about that, IMHO. I'm not being unfriendly about it. But there is no way of knowing what he is on about. So how do you expect anyone to help him? I tried to look the thread up since he has quoted nothing, but the thread is broken. Never mind. I probably couldn't help anyway. Perhaps those who can help are mind readers. Lisi > > I'll look a bit into that this weekend, perhaps I have some ideas. > > Regards > - -- tomás > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAlWEEC4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYOiwCfUNAoiLHXlSYkTfwx+fxOG9rs > 9PcAn3abzKuLYfs43XxeQhICv1xPGhmr > =wu68 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191401.52467.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 01:45:55PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote: >Thats right I am a newbie despite having used Linux for about 10 years. I >seem to have found the apt-get system very tricky to get my head round. > >It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is >not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be >downloaded. The problem that android have encountered is how to expose a file system in an independent manner. Prior to android version 4.0, external storage was FAT32 formatted and the connection was USB Mass Storage. This worked well, as it was a lowest-common-denominator system. However, as Android started to develop more security protocols, it was seen that a more capable file system was needed. FAT is a very simple filesystem and, while it's far enough for removable media, it's not really suited as part of an operating system. So, what was the alternative? FAT is, really, the only file system that is fully, natively supported by all three major desktop operating systems (Linux, MacOS and Windows). Anything else locks out part of the market. Add to that the problem that, if you're switching to a fuller-featured filesystem for security purposes, exposing that whole file system to another operating system causes no end of problems. So, in the end, android picked Microsoft's MTP protocol as a successor. Think of this as being like an FTP server built into the device. It doesn't matter what filesystem the device ACTUALLY uses, any operating system taking to the device must speak a well-defined protocol that exposes only certain aspects of the file system. There is no concept of ownership or permissions in MTP, you can't run defragmenters or filesystem checkers on MTP. All you can really do is list files, fetch them and put them. > >If you are too busy no worries as AirDroid is solving the problem. On >their wesite they say: 'BY VISITING THE WEBSITES OR USING THE SERVICES IN >ANY MANNER, YOU AGREE THAT YOU HAVE READ AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY AND A >PARTY TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT TO THE EXCLUSION OF >ALL OTHER TERMS'. Taken literally that is so absurd as to make me not want >to depend on their software.. why should I read their terms before >even visiting their website? Also, HOW do you read their terms and conditions without visiting their website? Are you supposed to write to them and ask for permission to use the website? > >Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free >Software despite technical challenges. > >Steve > >On 19 Jun 2015 12:27, "Lisi Reisz" <[1]lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Steve Greig <[2]greigst...@gmail.com> > > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > > To: Stefan Pietsch <[3]stefan.piet...@lsexperts.de> > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took > was > > to add [4]https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list > and > > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list > (i > > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > > sources.list but with the same error result). > > > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > > Reading package lists... Error! > > E: Type '[5]https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on > line 17 > > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-[6]1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > deb [7]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb-src [8]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > > > deb [9]http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > deb-src [10]http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > > deb [11]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > deb-src [12]http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > > > #deb [13]http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free > > > > deb [14]https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > ~ > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch > > <[15]stefan.piet...@lsexperts.de > >
Re: make oldconfig bzImage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:10:16AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 07:29:19 Dhiraj Bhor wrote: [...] > > Ohh excuses for top posting. > > I read about top and bottom posting. > > Hope this will help. > > Except that you have also broken the threading and not quoted anything > useful. > I have completely lost track of what the problem was. > > Each email should be basically self contained so that one can read it and > make > out what is going on, because it contains all the needed information in the > right order. Don't be too tough. I recommended Dhiraj to come here after a short personal exchange, because I'm not a real expert in this topic. It would be a pity if (s)he gets treated badly here. I know, conventions and that. I too definitely prefer bottom posting and selective quoting, but no need to be unfriendly about that, IMHO. I'll look a bit into that this weekend, perhaps I have some ideas. Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWEEC4ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYOiwCfUNAoiLHXlSYkTfwx+fxOG9rs 9PcAn3abzKuLYfs43XxeQhICv1xPGhmr =wu68 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619125054.gb21...@tuxteam.de
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:14:36PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Steve Greig > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was to > add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and then type > apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. No, that's not how they do these things. https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs is merely a package description, not a repository. > I have pasted the response to that > below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i tried with and without > 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the sources.list but with the same > error result). Both should not work anyway. sources.list has a specific format, violating it won't do you any good. What you were meant to do is to add this to your sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main and run apt-get update apt-get install -t wheezy-backports jtmpfs Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619124937.ga20...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:09:45 +0200 basti wrote: > The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. > > On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: > > basti wrote: > > > >> iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card > >> (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). > > More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU > > is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. > > > > Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, > > but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. The load is so high because USB is very CPU-intensive. If you were to use the on-board Ethernet, you would not see such a high load. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpb9DSiuayKO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
Thats right I am a newbie despite having used Linux for about 10 years. I seem to have found the apt-get system very tricky to get my head round. It does seem weird to me that transferring files between two computers is not be a basic function that does not require additional software to be downloaded. If you are too busy no worries as AirDroid is solving the problem. On their wesite they say: 'BY VISITING THE WEBSITES OR USING THE SERVICES IN ANY MANNER, YOU AGREE THAT YOU HAVE READ AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY AND A PARTY TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT TO THE EXCLUSION OF ALL OTHER TERMS'. Taken literally that is so absurd as to make me not want to depend on their software.. why should I read their terms before even visiting their website? Not trying to rant but trying to explain why I want to stick with Free Software despite technical challenges. Steve On 19 Jun 2015 12:27, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Steve Greig > > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took > was > > to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and > > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i > > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > > sources.list but with the same error result). > > > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > > Reading package lists... Error! > > E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on > line 17 > > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > > E: The list of sources could not be read. > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > > > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > > > #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free > > > > deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > ~ > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer > files > > > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the > > > > moment). I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled > > > > that it looked very complicated. > > > > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > > > > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > As things stand, you can't install jmtpfs. You would need backports. > There > are various things you would need to do! > > I am very busy over the next two days, and you need more than a quick > answer. > > I'll get back onto you over this and spotify in a few days time if you have > not already been satisfactorily helped and sorted out by then. > > You are clearly more of a newbie than some people are allowing for. And > jmtpfs may not be the only answer. > > Lisi > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191227.10543.lisi.re...@gmail.com > >
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:25:37 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > Do you have this package installed? What does "apt-cache policy > > linux-firmware-nonfree" say? > > > > It says unable to locate linux-firmware-nonfree > > ie it's not installed I guess That message means that apt-cache can't find that package at all. If you have recently added non-free to sources.list you will need to run "apt-get update". After doing that, it should be available to install via "apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree". > I installed bootlogd but when I looked in /var/log there was no boot.log > file Did you reboot after installing bootlogd? You have to do that for it to grab the messages. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpc54Muda6QW.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
The Problem is not the speed of 3 MB/s it's the load of 12 and more. On 19.06.2015 14:03, Sven Hartge wrote: > basti wrote: > >> iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card >> (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). > More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU > is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. > > Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, > but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. > > Grüße, > Sven. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55840689.8080...@arcor.de
Re: NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
basti wrote: > iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card > (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). More than 3MByte/s is not really achievable with a Pi-1, because the CPU is very weak and the Ethernet-Chip is attached via USB. Under the best conditions you may be able to transfer up to 45MBit/s, but a maximum transfer rate of about 35MBit/s is normal. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3bn3l39ph...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
> > >> Also, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" say? >> > It says: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.14-2-amd64 root=UUID=26e72a74-ba29-4936-b388-3876839bc56b ro quiet Regards MF >> >> Petter >> >> -- >> "I'm ionized" >> "Are you sure?" >> "I'm positive." >> > > > > > > >
Re: Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
On Friday 19 June 2015 12:14:36 Steve Greig wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Steve Greig > Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone > To: Stefan Pietsch > > > Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was > to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and > then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the > response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i > tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the > sources.list but with the same error result). > > root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs > Reading package lists... Error! > E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on line 17 > in source list /etc/apt/sources.list > E: The list of sources could not be read. > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > root@debian:/etc/apt# > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main > > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main > > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main > > #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free > > deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > ~ > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch > > > wrote: > > > > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files > > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the > > > moment). I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled > > > that it looked very complicated. > > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs As things stand, you can't install jmtpfs. You would need backports. There are various things you would need to do! I am very busy over the next two days, and you need more than a quick answer. I'll get back onto you over this and spotify in a few days time if you have not already been satisfactorily helped and sorted out by then. You are clearly more of a newbie than some people are allowing for. And jmtpfs may not be the only answer. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191227.10543.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
> > > linux-firmware-nonfree package, in case you don't have this installed. > > Do you have this package installed? What does "apt-cache policy > linux-firmware-nonfree" say? > It says unable to locate linux-firmware-nonfree ie it's not installed I guess > > > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 > DVD > > Binary-1 20150518-05:37]/ stretch contrib main > > You can comment this one out. Also, the lines for Jessie might as well > be removed so you don't accidentally uncomment them at some point. Keep > a backup of the whole file if you want to keep a record of them. > > > Does the above look OK or is it a bit addled in some way? > > It looks OK, I don't think your problem has anything to do with this. > > If you install the package "bootlogd" you will get a file > called /var/log/boot.log after your next boot with all boot messages. > I installed bootlogd but when I looked in /var/log there was no boot.log file There was a file called boot that was empty > You might want to remove "quiet" from the line with > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub to > see messages during boot. > I have done so. Regards MF > Also, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" say? > > Petter > > -- > "I'm ionized" > "Are you sure?" > "I'm positive." >
Pooched on upgrading to new stable
I decided to upgrade to the latest 'stable'. On reboot, I see gdm3 launch in the boot sequence which presumably starts X11. I then get a black screen. It is as if X11 loads -- but get stuck. It doesn't crash. I can't jump to a terminal. I have tried the key combos to kill X11 (ctrl-alt-bkspace) that didn't do anything. Interesting is that the mouse lights up when I move it. I don't see a cursor of any kind. I can adjust the backlighting of the keyboard... so, I know the keyboard works. I tried booting with a i386 netinst disk (version 7.6.0)... I got to safe mode and I try to launch a shell -- but that fails?!?! Preceding said, I'm not sure what to do I did get a prompt in rescue. I presume I have to disable gdm3 & X11 somehow... so I can get to a prompt when I boot the machine from the hard drive. I've had problems with X11 over the years with different computers on Debian... but never anything quite like this. Usually when X11 fails... you get booted back to the command line and have a shot at fixing it. Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks, Michael System - MacBookPro 2011 ? Debian - previous stable i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619064542.okjr5bookgc48...@webmail.utoronto.ca
Fwd: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone
-- Forwarded message -- From: Steve Greig Date: Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone To: Stefan Pietsch Unfortunately I do not know how to install things. The approach I took was to add https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs to my sources.list and then type apt-get install jmtpfs into the konsole. I have pasted the response to that below and after that the contents of my sources.list (i tried with and without 'deb' in front of the line about jmtpfs in the sources.list but with the same error result). root@debian:/etc/apt# apt-get install jmtpfs Reading package lists... Error! E: Type 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs' is not known on line 17 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: The list of sources could not be read. E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. root@debian:/etc/apt# # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main #deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free deb https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs ~ On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Stefan Pietsch wrote: > On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote: > > ... > > > It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files > > to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). > > I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it > > looked very complicated. > > > Have a look at jmtpfs. > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs > > > Regards, > Stefan >
NFS on Raspberry Pi high load
Hello, perhaps thats a bit OT but I can't found a Rasbian or RaspberryPi related mailinglist. Per default nfs starts with 8 servers root@raspberrypi:~# head -n 2 /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server # Number of servers to start up RPCNFSDCOUNT=8 So I try to transfer a 3GB file from the raspberry to my laptop via WLAN(n). This operation kills my raspberry. I get a load of 12 and more. 10 Minutes after I interrupt this operation the load was still at 10. So I deside to reduce the number of servers to 2. Now it's a bit better, the load is only around 5. iotop show me a read speed around 3 MB/s, there is a Class 10 UHS card (10-15 MB/s read, 9-5 MB/s write I guess). Test on "Pi 1 model B" with 512MB RAM. Can somebody reproduce this behavior? Thanks a lot. Regards Basti -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583f766.9050...@arcor.de
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:51:43 +0100 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > I'm running this chip with unstable and it boots fine. > > Looks like testing and unstable are on the same X.org currently, but > > unstable is using a newer kernel. > > > > Also I see something in dmesg about kaveri firmware being loaded, which I > > believe is provided by the > > linux-firmware-nonfree package, in case you don't have this installed. Do you have this package installed? What does "apt-cache policy linux-firmware-nonfree" say? > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD > Binary-1 20150518-05:37]/ stretch contrib main You can comment this one out. Also, the lines for Jessie might as well be removed so you don't accidentally uncomment them at some point. Keep a backup of the whole file if you want to keep a record of them. > Does the above look OK or is it a bit addled in some way? It looks OK, I don't think your problem has anything to do with this. If you install the package "bootlogd" you will get a file called /var/log/boot.log after your next boot with all boot messages. You might want to remove "quiet" from the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub to see messages during boot. Also, what does "cat /proc/cmdline" say? Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpENTaVANlsN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: make oldconfig bzImage
On Friday 19 June 2015 07:29:19 Dhiraj Bhor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 06/19/2015 01:23 AM, Dhiraj Bhor wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Still no luck so far. > >> Can someone help../ > > > > You'll get much more help if you respect the no-top-posting meme of this > > list. Ric > > > > > > -- > > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > > "There are two Great Sins in the world.the Sin of Ignorance, and the > > Sin of Stupidity. > > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. > > http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583ac33.30...@gmail.com > > Ohh excuses for top posting. > I read about top and bottom posting. > Hope this will help. Except that you have also broken the threading and not quoted anything useful. I have completely lost track of what the problem was. Each email should be basically self contained so that one can read it and make out what is going on, because it contains all the needed information in the right order. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506191110.16910.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 >>> Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run > "xrandr" (when both screens are connected) and see what it detects. > If "xrandr" is able to detect both outputs it should just be a > matter of configuration, if not then that would suggest a problem > with the driver. > > At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer > kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going > there would be a lot better than with Squeeze. > > Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine > which version of the driver that has installed? The packages are > usually called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" > on the one that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same > for Wheezy. > " -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx N: Unable to locate package nvidia-xxx " >>> >>> The "xxx" should be replaced by the major version number you are using. >>> Try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" to see what packages are installed, then >>> use "apt-cache policy" to determine the full version of the one that is >>> installed. >>> >> >> " >> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ dpkg -l | grep nvidia >> ii nvidia-331 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 >> NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU >> library >> ii nvidia-331-updates 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 >> NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU >> library >> ii nvidia-common 1:0.2.44.2 >> Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers >> ii nvidia-prime0.5~hybrid0.0.3 >> Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime >> ii nvidia-settings 331.20-0ubuntu0.0.1 >> Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver >> bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy I apologise - I appear to have lost the plot and simply got too confused. I think this is what was sought; " bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-331 nvidia-331: Installed: 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 Candidate: 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 Version table: *** 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 0 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/restricted amd64 Packages 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status " > > > And from Debian 6; > > " > root@bret-av3-772g-deb6:~# dpkg -l | grep nvidia > rc nvidia-glx 195.36.31-6squeeze2 > NVIDIA binary Xorg driver > rc nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-amd64 > 195.36.31+4+6squeeze2+2.6.32-45 NVIDIA binary kernel module for > Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 > " > > " > root@bret-av3-772g-deb6:~# apt-cache policy Similarly, obtaining and sending that, was apparently erroneous, with what I believe was sought, was instead thus; > > " > root@bret-av3-772g-deb6:~# apt-cache policy nvidia-195 > N: Unable to locate package nvidia-195 > root@bret-av3-772g-deb6:~# apt-cache policy nvidia-195.36.31 > N: Unable to locate package nvidia-195.36.31 > N: Couldn't find any package by regex 'nvidia-195.36.31' > " > > I apologise again - I appear to have got too confused. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8NDRH=S1hEhtvPZSykLQ=ztu7trjcetvvt2verupze...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 >> Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can >>> > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run >>> > "xrandr" (when both screens are connected) and see what it detects. >>> > If "xrandr" is able to detect both outputs it should just be a >>> > matter of configuration, if not then that would suggest a problem >>> > with the driver. >>> > >>> > At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer >>> > kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going >>> > there would be a lot better than with Squeeze. >>> > >>> > Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine >>> > which version of the driver that has installed? The packages are >>> > usually called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" >>> > on the one that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same >>> > for Wheezy. >>> > >>> >>> " >>> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx >>> N: Unable to locate package nvidia-xxx >>> " >> >> The "xxx" should be replaced by the major version number you are using. >> Try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" to see what packages are installed, then >> use "apt-cache policy" to determine the full version of the one that is >> installed. >> > > " > -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ dpkg -l | grep nvidia > ii nvidia-331 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 > NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU > library > ii nvidia-331-updates 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 > NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU > library > ii nvidia-common 1:0.2.44.2 > Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers > ii nvidia-prime0.5~hybrid0.0.3 > Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime > ii nvidia-settings 331.20-0ubuntu0.0.1 > Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver > bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy > Package files: > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > release a=now > 500 http://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable/non-free i386 Packages > release o=Opera Software ASA,a=stable,n=stable,l=The Opera web > browser,c=non-free > origin deb.opera.com > 500 http://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable/non-free amd64 Packages > release o=Opera Software ASA,a=stable,n=stable,l=The Opera web > browser,c=non-free > origin deb.opera.com > 500 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=LP-PPA-app-review-board,a=precise,n=precise,l=Application > Review Board PPA,c=main > origin extras.ubuntu.com > 500 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=LP-PPA-app-review-board,a=precise,n=precise,l=Application > Review Board PPA,c=main > origin extras.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe > Translation-en > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted > Translation-en > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse > Translation-en > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main > Translation-en > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse > i386 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=multiverse > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe i386 > Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=universe > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted > i386 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=restricted > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages > release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=main > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse > amd64 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=multiverse > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe amd64 > Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=universe > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted > amd64 Packages > release > v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=restricted > origin security.ubuntu.com > 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main amd64 > Packages > release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=main > origin security.ubuntu
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
> I'm running this chip with unstable and it boots fine. > Looks like testing and unstable are on the same X.org currently, but > unstable is using a newer kernel. > > Also I see something in dmesg about kaveri firmware being loaded, which I > believe is provided by the > linux-firmware-nonfree package, in case you don't have this installed. > I added some nonfree entries to my sources.list file: > # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140908-06:10]/ jessie contrib main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140908-06:10]/ jessie contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150518-05:37]/ stretch contrib main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20150518-05:36]/ stretch main deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ stretch main contrib nonfree deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ stretch main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib nonfree deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib #jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' #deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib #deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib # jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org #deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib #deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib Does the above look OK or is it a bit addled in some way? Regards MF Looks like Petter has a better handle on this stuff than I do, so follow > his instructions for getting > the system to boot to the command line. > > Later, Seeker > -- Climostat Ltd Rm 5169 The Heath Business & Technical Park The Heath Runcorn Cheshire WA7 4QX Tel. 01 928 515 015
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > >>> > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be >>> > helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ. >>> > >>> >>> " >>> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log >>> cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory >>> " >> >> If you read the top of my previous post you would have seen the >> full path to that file. >> > > Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to > it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, > I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph. > > See below for Ubuntu 12.04 > > I have attached a copy of the file from the Debian 6 installation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux bret-av3-772g-deb6 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 17 16:09:06 UTC 2015 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=UUID=7bdcb7bd-53ac-4902-89b4-7bba86a03430 ro quiet nomodeset Build Date: 01 May 2015 10:02:25AM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-18+deb6u3 (Mike Gabriel ) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 19 17:40:55 2015 (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "" (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. (II) Loader magic: 0x7c8bc0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (++) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0416:1025:0781 Intel Corporation rev 6, Mem @ 0xd300/4194304, 0xc000/268435456, I/O @ 0x5000/64 (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 10de:0fe4:1025:0781 nVidia Corporation rev 161, Mem @ 0xd200/16777216, 0xa000/268435456, 0xb000/33554432, I/O @ 0x4000/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 346.72 Tue May 5 17:11:15 PDT 2015 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13
Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....
> > So you're still not getting modesetting. Are you sure you booted > *without* "nomodeset" on the kernel line? > > > The dmesg file was empty. > > Strange. > > Petter > > I haven't tried the nomodeset thing yet. My sources.list file looks like this: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140908-06:10]/ jessie contrib main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Jessie_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140908-06:10]/ jessie contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 DVD Binary-1 20150518-05:37]/ stretch contrib main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20150518-05:36]/ stretch main deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ stretch main contrib nonfree deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ stretch main contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib nonfree deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib #jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' #deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib #deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib # jessie-backports, previously on backports.debian.org #deb http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib #deb-src http://ukdebian.mirror.anlx.net/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib I added some nonfree entries in case that would help with the firmware problem Regards MF > -- > "I'm ionized" > "Are you sure?" > "I'm positive." > -- Climostat Ltd Rm 5169 The Heath Business & Technical Park The Heath Runcorn Cheshire WA7 4QX Tel. 01 928 515 015
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 >>> Bret Busby wrote: I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. >>> >>> How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read >>> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run "xrandr" (when >>> both screens are connected) and see what it detects. If "xrandr" is able >>> to detect both outputs it should just be a matter of configuration, if >>> not then that would suggest a problem with the driver. >>> >> >> On Debian 6; >> >> " >> :~# xrandr >> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default >> Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1080, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 1920 x 1080 >> default connected 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm >>1920x1080 0.0* >> " >> >> > > > And on Debian 7; > > " > :~# xrandr > xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default > Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1080, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 1920 x 1080 > default connected 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm >1920x1080 0.0* > " > On Ubuntu 12.04; " bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 32767 eDP1 connected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1920x1080 60.0 + 59.9 1680x1050 60.0 59.9 1600x1024 60.2 1400x1050 60.0 1280x1024 60.0 1440x900 59.9 1280x960 60.0 1360x768 59.8 60.0 1152x864 60.0 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 510mm x 287mm 1920x1080 60.0*+ 50.0 59.9 1920x1080i 60.1 50.0 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1280x720 60.0 50.0 59.9 1440x576i 50.1 1024x768 75.1 60.0 1440x480i 60.1 60.1 800x60075.0 60.3 720x57650.0 720x48060.0 59.9 640x48075.0 60.0 59.9 720x40070.1 VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) " -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8oc7xghmjjgkkmbzfkqguh4ygww7w0amfeaumhydyx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Dlna client and backup
On 15-06-19 11:36 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: > A quick search with apt-cache finds this: > > Package: gnome-music > Description-en: Music is the new GNOME music playing application > Music is the new GNOME music playing application aiming at being > a simple and elegant replacement for using Files to show the > Music directory. > Objectives includes listening to local and online/cloud collections, > listen to music on attached devices, listen to music shared by friends, > listen to audiobooks, a player for DLNA media servers, share music, > upload music and select favorites. > > I've never used it, so I can't tell you if it's any good, but according > to the description it seems like it would fit what you're looking for. > > Petter I will test it right now and let you know. Thanks a lot for this. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583e301.30...@gmx.de
Re: Dlna client and backup
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:22:36 +0200 Petter Adsen wrote: > Kodi/XBMC is both a server and a client, so you can use it in either > role. I run it on a Raspberry Pi as a media center, it isn't really > that big a drain on resources. If you only want to play music, I would > guess several of the "big" players would support that, I only use > Kodi. A quick search with apt-cache finds this: Package: gnome-music Description-en: Music is the new GNOME music playing application Music is the new GNOME music playing application aiming at being a simple and elegant replacement for using Files to show the Music directory. Objectives includes listening to local and online/cloud collections, listen to music on attached devices, listen to music shared by friends, listen to audiobooks, a player for DLNA media servers, share music, upload music and select favorites. I've never used it, so I can't tell you if it's any good, but according to the description it seems like it would fit what you're looking for. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpH1dySYi39C.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Dlna client and backup
On 15-06-19 11:13 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: > If you look for a light dlna server, minidlna is the one. > > Good luck, Currently I have minidlna server on a NAS. I only need a minidlna client. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583e21d.8040...@gmx.de
Re: Dlna client and backup
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:27:33 +0200 notoneofmy wrote: > > > On 15-06-19 10:01 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: > >> > Just two quick question I hope to get help one. > >> > > >> > I've spent now weeks putting installing Jessie and solving > >> > problems. It makes sense to find a good backup and restore > >> > program. Ideally, something that I can use to back up the entire > >> > system to a NAS and restore a broken system from the NAS. And > >> > following restoration; all will be good as new. Any ideas? > > I use backintime - it uses rsync to actually make the backups, so > > it's easy to traverse the backup tree and restore a specific > > version of a file that you want. It has frontends for Qt and GTK, > > and sets up cron jobs for automated backups. YMMV, I like it. > Thanks a lot. I will give this a try. But to be clear, would this > backup the entire system and restore it, in the event of a crash of > something going horribly wrong? I'm hoping it to be like the Time > Machine for linux; is that what it does? backintime will back up exactly what you tell it to, using hardlinks instead of copies of files that haven't changed, so you don't store full copies of every single file when it isn't necessary. The first time you run it it will make copies of everything, on later runs it will make copies of files that have changed, and use hardlinks for the ones that haven't to save space. By default it will exclude stuff like /proc, /sys, /run, cache directories and so on, but you can of course edit that if you want to add or remove something. Time Machine is something I haven't used, so I can't compare them. backintime will give you a directory tree where you have one directory for each run of the backup, named by the date and time the backup was run, and under that you get a full tree of the things you have backed up. Makes it easy to get a certain version of a file like it was on a specific date. The best way to judge would be to take a look at it, and get comfortable with the way it works. Make a few backups, and test the restore functionality to make sure it works if you suddenly need it. If you decide you like it, set up a schedule. Test it regularly to make sure everything works OK. > >> > Also, any ideas on a functioning dlna client. I've spent weeks > >> > on this...lots of servers out there but no client being > >> > developed. Most of the ones mentioned in wikipedia don't even > >> > exist anymore. > > I'm pretty sure Kodi (used to be called XBMC) can play from DLNA > > sources, although I simply export via NFS now. It's a great client > > with a ton of functionality, and it can also act as a DLNA server. > > You can also set up a shared MySQL database so that all metadata is > > shared between several clients. > Thanks also for this. I knew about XMBC and also about its rename. But > I'm only interested in a client. I know as far as servers go, this is > perhaps the best. And I like a lot of the new things they've done to > it. But this is a laptop from which I want to listen to music on NAS > while I work. XMBC is too much for this purpose. Kodi/XBMC is both a server and a client, so you can use it in either role. I run it on a Raspberry Pi as a media center, it isn't really that big a drain on resources. If you only want to play music, I would guess several of the "big" players would support that, I only use Kodi. > Could you please explain more what you do now, exporting via NFS? I have all my media on a big disk on my file server, and I export that via NFS to the Pi. Kodi on the Pi indexes all the media and builds a library. Simple, and at least in my experience it seems faster than DLNA/UPNP. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpbJxVDRe4Bf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can >> > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run >> > "xrandr" (when both screens are connected) and see what it detects. >> > If "xrandr" is able to detect both outputs it should just be a >> > matter of configuration, if not then that would suggest a problem >> > with the driver. >> > >> > At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer >> > kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going >> > there would be a lot better than with Squeeze. >> > >> > Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine >> > which version of the driver that has installed? The packages are >> > usually called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" >> > on the one that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same >> > for Wheezy. >> > >> >> " >> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx >> N: Unable to locate package nvidia-xxx >> " > > The "xxx" should be replaced by the major version number you are using. > Try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" to see what packages are installed, then > use "apt-cache policy" to determine the full version of the one that is > installed. > " -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ dpkg -l | grep nvidia ii nvidia-331 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-331-updates 331.113-0ubuntu0.0.0.3 NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library ii nvidia-common 1:0.2.44.2 Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers ii nvidia-prime0.5~hybrid0.0.3 Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime ii nvidia-settings 331.20-0ubuntu0.0.1 Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 500 http://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable/non-free i386 Packages release o=Opera Software ASA,a=stable,n=stable,l=The Opera web browser,c=non-free origin deb.opera.com 500 http://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable/non-free amd64 Packages release o=Opera Software ASA,a=stable,n=stable,l=The Opera web browser,c=non-free origin deb.opera.com 500 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages release v=12.04,o=LP-PPA-app-review-board,a=precise,n=precise,l=Application Review Board PPA,c=main origin extras.ubuntu.com 500 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages release v=12.04,o=LP-PPA-app-review-board,a=precise,n=precise,l=Application Review Board PPA,c=main origin extras.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe Translation-en 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted Translation-en 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse Translation-en 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main Translation-en 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse i386 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=multiverse origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe i386 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=universe origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted i386 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=restricted origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main i386 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=main origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/multiverse amd64 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=multiverse origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/universe amd64 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=universe origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/restricted amd64 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=restricted origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security/main amd64 Packages release v=12.04,o=Ubuntu,a=precise-security,n=precise,l=Ubuntu,c=main origin security.ubuntu.com 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports/universe Translation-en 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports/restricted Translation-en 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backpo
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be >> > helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ. >> > >> >> " >> -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log >> cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory >> " > > If you read the top of my previous post you would have seen the > full path to that file. > Sorry - I had read the whole of the post, and had tried to respond to it in modularised progressive steps, and when I got down to that part, I had forgotten the content of the first paragraph. See below for Ubuntu 12.04 -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ' -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log [24.305] X.Org X Server 1.15.1 Release Date: 2014-04-13 [24.306] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [24.306] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.42-75-generic x86_64 Ubuntu [24.306] Current Operating System: Linux bret-Aspire-V3-772-Ubuntu-12-04LTS 3.13.0-54-generic #91~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 27 10:48:29 UTC 2015 x86_64 [24.306] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-54-generic root=UUID=50c16b74-e83e-4900-a870-19a1bcc9304b ro quiet splash [24.306] Build Date: 12 February 2015 03:37:52PM [24.306] xorg-server 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2~precise5 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support) [24.306] Current version of pixman: 0.30.2 [24.306]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [24.306] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [24.306] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 19 15:58:42 2015 [24.597] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" [24.597] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [24.688] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [24.688] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [24.688] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [24.688] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [24.688] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [24.688] (==) Automatically adding devices [24.688] (==) Automatically enabling devices [24.688] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [25.445] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [25.445]Entry deleted from font path. [25.445] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist. [25.445]Entry deleted from font path. [25.445] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist. [25.445]Entry deleted from font path. [25.471] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist. [25.471]Entry deleted from font path. [25.471] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist. [25.471]Entry deleted from font path. [25.471] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, built-ins [25.471] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [25.471] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [25.494] (II) Loader magic: 0x7f0af8cb6c20 [25.494] (II) Module ABI versions: [25.494]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [25.494]X.Org Video Driver: 15.0 [25.494]X.Org XInput driver : 20.0 [25.494]X.Org Server Extension : 8.0 [25.494] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card1) [25.494] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) [25.495] (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:0416:1025:0781 rev 6, Mem @ 0xd300/4194304, 0xc000/268435456, I/O @ 0x5000/64 [25.495] (--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 10de:0fe4:1025:0781 rev 161, Mem @ 0xd200/16777216, 0xa000/268435456, 0xb000/33554432, I/O @ 0x4000/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288 [25.540] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension [25.540] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE [25.540] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM [25.540] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension [25.540] Initializing built-in extension XTEST [25.540] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS [25.540] Initializing built-in extension SYNC [25.540] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD [25.540] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
Re: Dlna client and backup
Hi, On 06/19/2015 09:45 AM, notoneofmyseeds wrote: > Just two quick question I hope to get help one. > > I've spent now weeks putting installing Jessie and solving problems. > It makes sense to find a good backup and restore program. Ideally, > something that I can use to back up the entire system to a NAS and > restore a broken system from the NAS. And following restoration; all > will be good as new. Any ideas? I use crashplan which is free as long as you use it with your own computers to backup. You will be able to fine tune all the versioning you need. http://www.code42.com/crashplan/download/ > > Also, any ideas on a functioning dlna client. I've spent weeks on > this...lots of servers out there but no client being developed. Most > of the ones mentioned in wikipedia don't even exist anymore. If you look for a light dlna server, minidlna is the one. Good luck, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 2015-06-19, Ric Moore wrote: > > "Check and see if you have the tool 'intel-virtual-output' installed. > This is included in 'xf86-video-intel' =< v2.99, aprox date released is > 22/Dec/2014 > "xf86-video-intel" doesn't appear to be a Debian package. I can only find it here: http://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmo7m8b.1tr.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:23:03 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can > > read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run > > "xrandr" (when both screens are connected) and see what it detects. > > If "xrandr" is able to detect both outputs it should just be a > > matter of configuration, if not then that would suggest a problem > > with the driver. > > > > At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer > > kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going > > there would be a lot better than with Squeeze. > > > > Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine > > which version of the driver that has installed? The packages are > > usually called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" > > on the one that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same > > for Wheezy. > > > > " > -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx > N: Unable to locate package nvidia-xxx > " The "xxx" should be replaced by the major version number you are using. Try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" to see what packages are installed, then use "apt-cache policy" to determine the full version of the one that is installed. > >From Ubuntu 12.04, as I previously mentioned having thusly added the > nvidia 331 drivers (Ubuntu 12.04 successfully detected and provided > use of the external monitor, both before and after the installation of > the nvidia drivers) So you could use the external screen with the nouveau driver? Have you tried that with Wheezy? I don't have the time to go through this entire thread again, I was simply under the impression that Ubuntu 12.04 with the proprietary driver was the only combination that would see the external screen. If that isn't the case, then we have more to work with. > >From System Settings -> Additional Drivers; > > " > Proprietary drivers are being used... > NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 331) > NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version > 331-updates) " OK, major version 331. > > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be > > helpful, just to see what your system detects, and how they differ. > > > > " > -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log > cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory > " If you read the top of my previous post you would have seen the full path to that file. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpyYzr2a7Pio.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Moving from 56k modem
Hi. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:36:37AM +0200, Frederic Marchal wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 11:01:25 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:13:42AM +0200, Frederic Marchal wrote: > > > > On Friday 19 June 2015 09:24:34 Reco wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:20:25 -0500 > > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > Mike McClain wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on > > > > > > > security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN > > > > > > > on your system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository? > > > > > > > > > > A *very* simplistic howto follows: > > > > > > > > > > autossh -ND1080 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With iceweasel/firefox, don't forget to change > > > > network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true in about:config or the DNS > > > > requests will be issued to the local DNS server. > > > > > > > > See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns > > > > > > Please don't do so. Ssh only provides SOCKS4 proxy, and SOCKS4 can not > > > tunnel DNS requests (or any UDP traffic for that matter). > > > > According to ssh(1) manpage (see http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ssh+1 or > your local man 1 ssh), ssh -D supports SOCKS4 and SOCKS5. I stand corrected. Thank you, every day I learn something new :) Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619084825.ga11...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Re: Moving from 56k modem
On Friday 19 June 2015 11:01:25 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:13:42AM +0200, Frederic Marchal wrote: > > On Friday 19 June 2015 09:24:34 Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:20:25 -0500 > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Mike McClain wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on > > > > > security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN > > > > > on your system. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository? > > > > > > A *very* simplistic howto follows: > > > > > > autossh -ND1080 > > > > > > > > > > With iceweasel/firefox, don't forget to change > > network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true in about:config or the DNS > > requests will be issued to the local DNS server. > > > > See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns > > Please don't do so. Ssh only provides SOCKS4 proxy, and SOCKS4 can not > tunnel DNS requests (or any UDP traffic for that matter). According to ssh(1) manpage (see http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ssh+1 or your local man 1 ssh), ssh -D supports SOCKS4 and SOCKS5. I have been using that trick since Debian Squeeze. Locally run, for instance: ssh -N -D8880 u...@remote.host.example.com Set the proxy in firefox to "socks=127.0.0.1:8880", enable network.proxy.socks_remote_dns and surf while watching with wireshark or tcpdump the DNS requests sent on the network interface. I had no DNS requests going to the local DNS server. I was completely stealthy except for the amount of data exchanged with only one server :-). I have been using http://www.proxy-offline-browser.com/ProxySwitch/ to easily switch between a direct connection and a ssh tunnel in iceweasel. The ssh server must allow TCP forwarding (AllowTcpForwarding in sshd_config, globally or on a per user basis) but, due to -N, you don't even need a login shell on the remote server and your tunnel won't register in /var/log/auth.log on the server. BTW, if AllowTCPForwarding is enabled on a server where mysql is installed without a root password because it is only listening on 127.0.0.1, then anyone with a valid account (for sftp for instance) can open a ssh tunnel to access mysql running on the server: ssh -L12000:localhost:3360 u...@remote.server.example.com Then it is easy to open a mysql client to local port 12000 as root and connect to the remote mysql server. Keep that in check when enabling TCP forwarding on a ssh server! Frederic
Re: Dlna client and backup
On 15-06-19 10:01 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: >> > Just two quick question I hope to get help one. >> > >> > I've spent now weeks putting installing Jessie and solving problems. >> > It makes sense to find a good backup and restore program. Ideally, >> > something that I can use to back up the entire system to a NAS and >> > restore a broken system from the NAS. And following restoration; all >> > will be good as new. Any ideas? > I use backintime - it uses rsync to actually make the backups, so it's > easy to traverse the backup tree and restore a specific version of a > file that you want. It has frontends for Qt and GTK, and sets up cron > jobs for automated backups. YMMV, I like it. Thanks a lot. I will give this a try. But to be clear, would this backup the entire system and restore it, in the event of a crash of something going horribly wrong? I'm hoping it to be like the Time Machine for linux; is that what it does? > >> > Also, any ideas on a functioning dlna client. I've spent weeks on >> > this...lots of servers out there but no client being developed. Most >> > of the ones mentioned in wikipedia don't even exist anymore. > I'm pretty sure Kodi (used to be called XBMC) can play from DLNA > sources, although I simply export via NFS now. It's a great client > with a ton of functionality, and it can also act as a DLNA server. You > can also set up a shared MySQL database so that all metadata is shared > between several clients. Thanks also for this. I knew about XMBC and also about its rename. But I'm only interested in a client. I know as far as servers go, this is perhaps the best. And I like a lot of the new things they've done to it. But this is a laptop from which I want to listen to music on NAS while I work. XMBC is too much for this purpose. Could you please explain more what you do now, exporting via NFS? > > Kodi isn't in the Jessie repos, but XBMC is. If you want a newer > version, check kodi.tv. > > Petter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583d275.4020...@gmx.de
Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 06:42:39PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 06/18/2015 05:49 PM, Martin Read wrote: > >On 18/06/15 21:27, Johann Spies wrote: > >>I use shorewall. The shorewall-init.log shows that Shorewall took less > >>than 2 seconds to compile and start up. Why does systemd wait that long > >>on boot? > > > >$ systemd-analyze critical-chain > > > >This will tell you what is taking a long time to start. > > > After logging in to XFCE, I observed a "busy" mouse cursor for 30 > seconds or more. Using the above command noted several things were > taking as much as 8 seconds each to launch. "More or less 8 sec each" or "pretty uniformly 8 sec each"? If it's the last, I think I've seen this pattern in this mailing list once. Hmmm... best - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWDzssACgkQBcgs9XrR2kY9UgCff8Yy++PmzawfLL1Jc/WNEY2D RjUAnAleeItgBgXuMazBhljS9yp769cH =HsNW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619081155.ga3...@tuxteam.de
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: >> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. > > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read > through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run "xrandr" (when > both screens are connected) and see what it detects. If "xrandr" is able > to detect both outputs it should just be a matter of configuration, if > not then that would suggest a problem with the driver. > > At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer > kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going > there would be a lot better than with Squeeze. > > Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine which > version of the driver that has installed? The packages are usually > called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" on the one > that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same for Wheezy. > " -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx N: Unable to locate package nvidia-xxx " >From Ubuntu 12.04, as I previously mentioned having thusly added the nvidia 331 drivers (Ubuntu 12.04 successfully detected and provided use of the external monitor, both before and after the installation of the nvidia drivers) >From System Settings -> Additional Drivers; " Proprietary drivers are being used... NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 331) NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 331-updates) " > Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be helpful, > just to see what your system detects, and how they differ. > " -Ubuntu-12-04LTS:~$ cat Xorg.0.log cat: Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory " -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8m3wgh+qtrvzazg_gwzqbt2qvpxsetdjaenm+mu8pv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Moving from 56k modem
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:01:25 +0300 Reco wrote: > > > > When network.proxy.socks_remote_dns is set to true, the DNS > > requests are sent through the SOCKS connection and delivered to > > your computer at home (which ultimately is sent to your ISP but you > > already thrust it with that information any way, don't you?) > > Please don't do so. Ssh only provides SOCKS4 proxy, and SOCKS4 can > not tunnel DNS requests (or any UDP traffic for that matter). > > Although I agree that un-tunneled DNS requests is a privacy issue > indeed. > I'd go along with that in general, if you're going to use a VPN, use a proper one. I tunnel the odd TCP stream through ssh for simplicity and convenience from moderately trusted networks, but to do anything from a public network, I'd use OpenVPN. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619091513.2e586...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: [SOLVED] Re: forcedeth driver - bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 02:05:37PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote: > Thanks Selim, that fixed it. [selim] > >>>options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 > > > > ^^^ > >Should be like this. > > Yes, solution is /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf containing > options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0 :-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWDz3MACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaILgCdFbR4oF68SmpCZx0NqRE8g4fk zTYAnjSBQm70jfZxeYwMzHLuxMz9tIDf =jM2I -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619081443.gb3...@tuxteam.de
Re: Moving from 56k modem
Hi. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:13:42AM +0200, Frederic Marchal wrote: > On Friday 19 June 2015 09:24:34 Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:20:25 -0500 > > > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > Mike McClain wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > >> Scarletdown wrote: > > > > >>> How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service? > > > > >> > > > > >> I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security > > > > >> implications when using personal hotspot. > > > > >> > > > > >>> The > > > > >>> way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet > > > > >>> service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get > > > > >>> a signal from your provider. > > > > > > > > > > When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on > > > > > security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN on > > > > > your system. > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository? > > > > > > A *very* simplistic howto follows: > > > > > > autossh -ND1080 > > > > > > > > > > With iceweasel/firefox, don't forget to change network.proxy.socks_remote_dns > to true in about:config or the DNS requests will be issued to the local DNS > server. > > > > See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns > > > If the DNS requests are sent to the local DNS server provided by the DHCP of > an > access point, the AP administrator can get an exhaustive list of every single > web site you visit simply by looking at the DNS requests comming from your > computer. The data are still secure thanks to the vpn but it is very easy to > get a good idea about the kind of activity you are having at the moment (I'm > adopting the employer's point of view here :-) ). > > > > When network.proxy.socks_remote_dns is set to true, the DNS requests are sent > through the SOCKS connection and delivered to your computer at home (which > ultimately is sent to your ISP but you already thrust it with that information > any way, don't you?) Please don't do so. Ssh only provides SOCKS4 proxy, and SOCKS4 can not tunnel DNS requests (or any UDP traffic for that matter). Although I agree that un-tunneled DNS requests is a privacy issue indeed. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150619080123.ga23...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Re: Dlna client and backup
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:45:16 +0200 notoneofmyseeds wrote: > Just two quick question I hope to get help one. > > I've spent now weeks putting installing Jessie and solving problems. > It makes sense to find a good backup and restore program. Ideally, > something that I can use to back up the entire system to a NAS and > restore a broken system from the NAS. And following restoration; all > will be good as new. Any ideas? I use backintime - it uses rsync to actually make the backups, so it's easy to traverse the backup tree and restore a specific version of a file that you want. It has frontends for Qt and GTK, and sets up cron jobs for automated backups. YMMV, I like it. > Also, any ideas on a functioning dlna client. I've spent weeks on > this...lots of servers out there but no client being developed. Most > of the ones mentioned in wikipedia don't even exist anymore. I'm pretty sure Kodi (used to be called XBMC) can play from DLNA sources, although I simply export via NFS now. It's a great client with a ton of functionality, and it can also act as a DLNA server. You can also set up a shared MySQL database so that all metadata is shared between several clients. Kodi isn't in the Jessie repos, but XBMC is. If you want a newer version, check kodi.tv. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpASCFWPrFF6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 >> Bret Busby wrote: >>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >>> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >>> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. >> >> How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read >> through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run "xrandr" (when >> both screens are connected) and see what it detects. If "xrandr" is able >> to detect both outputs it should just be a matter of configuration, if >> not then that would suggest a problem with the driver. >> > > On Debian 6; > > " > :~# xrandr > xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default > Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1080, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 1920 x 1080 > default connected 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm >1920x1080 0.0* > " > > And on Debian 7; " :~# xrandr xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1080, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 1920 x 1080 default connected 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1920x1080 0.0* " -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8o6epncu68jeoqdh2avzxqcxqvq5uumwc6_jqluvxp...@mail.gmail.com
Dlna client and backup
Just two quick question I hope to get help one. I've spent now weeks putting installing Jessie and solving problems. It makes sense to find a good backup and restore program. Ideally, something that I can use to back up the entire system to a NAS and restore a broken system from the NAS. And following restoration; all will be good as new. Any ideas? Also, any ideas on a functioning dlna client. I've spent weeks on this...lots of servers out there but no client being developed. Most of the ones mentioned in wikipedia don't even exist anymore. Thanks a lot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5583c88c.4000...@gmx.de
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: >> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. > > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read > through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run "xrandr" (when > both screens are connected) and see what it detects. If "xrandr" is able > to detect both outputs it should just be a matter of configuration, if > not then that would suggest a problem with the driver. > On Debian 6; " :~# xrandr xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 1920 x 1080, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 1920 x 1080 default connected 1920x1080+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1920x1080 0.0* " -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8PqdDswn64epnEgCZZAv+5GN4hdK4x=izu4ypptn5z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 >> Bret Busby wrote: >>> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >>> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >>> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >>> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. >> >> How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? > > I believe that I have previously posted this, for eac of the four > operating systems, or, at least, for the two Debian ones. > > I am currently in the Debian 7 installation. > > Using a gnome classic session (as the nearest equivalent to, but, not > as good as, gnome 2), from the Applications menu, > System Tools -> Preferences -> Monitor Settings > shows > "The following monitor is detected" > > Using the button in hat dialogue box, shows it to be using > LXRandR 0.1.2 > > In the Debian 6 installation, using gnome 2, the menu path is System menu -> Preferences -> Monitors and that dialogue box shows a button (the Debian 7 installation equivalent dialogue box does not have that button - the Debian 7 installation appears to perform the monitors detection, automatically) selecting that button produces no change - only the "Unknown" monitor is indicated, being the screen on the laptop computer. That dialogue box in the Debian 6 installation, does not include an button, so the applicable utility and its version, cannot be determined from the dialogue box. Synaptic did not show a randr (either xrandr or lxrandr) package as being installed, and as a Synaptic seatch for xrandr did not include xrandr, I have just installed lxrandr. So now, in the System menu -> Preferences menu, I have two distinct options relating to monitors; Monitors and now, also, Monitor Settings The Monitor Settings dialogue box shows it to be LXRandR 0.1.1 And still, the external monitor is not detected in Debian 6. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8pbcbpvo+eseyhzpbew1qsn1tbc+dy3avjkxdadhfd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Moving from 56k modem
On Friday 19 June 2015 09:24:34 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:20:25 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Mike McClain wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> Scarletdown wrote: > > >>> How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service? > > >> > > >> I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security > > >> implications when using personal hotspot. > > >> > > >>> The > > >>> way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet > > >>> service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get > > >>> a signal from your provider. > > > > > > When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on > > > security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN on > > > your system. > > > Mike > > > > A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository? > > A *very* simplistic howto follows: > > autossh -ND1080 > > With iceweasel/firefox, don't forget to change network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to true in about:config or the DNS requests will be issued to the local DNS server. See http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns If the DNS requests are sent to the local DNS server provided by the DHCP of an access point, the AP administrator can get an exhaustive list of every single web site you visit simply by looking at the DNS requests comming from your computer. The data are still secure thanks to the vpn but it is very easy to get a good idea about the kind of activity you are having at the moment (I'm adopting the employer's point of view here :-) ). When network.proxy.socks_remote_dns is set to true, the DNS requests are sent through the SOCKS connection and delivered to your computer at home (which ultimately is sent to your ISP but you already thrust it with that information any way, don't you?) Frederic
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote: > On 06/19/2015 12:15 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: >>> There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with the drivers... It might also be that it is (maybe for one of the reasons I listed in my previous mail) incompatible with Squeeze. I just don't know, sorry. >>> >>> I see the same thing, https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#From_repository >>> It doesn't appear to be available for sqeeze. >>> >> >> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. > > "Check and see if you have the tool 'intel-virtual-output' installed. > This is included in 'xf86-video-intel' =< v2.99, aprox date released is > 22/Dec/2014 > In searching in synaptic, for xf86-video-intel , two results are returned; xserver-xorg-video-intel - installed xserver-xorg-video-i740 - not installed -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8pn9nomdbx3ugh1e8z2xvu1rfc_8loyorrvgazvgf4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI
On 19/06/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: >> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from >> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that >> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the >> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor. > > How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? I believe that I have previously posted this, for eac of the four operating systems, or, at least, for the two Debian ones. I am currently in the Debian 7 installation. Using a gnome classic session (as the nearest equivalent to, but, not as good as, gnome 2), from the Applications menu, System Tools -> Preferences -> Monitor Settings shows "The following monitor is detected" Using the button in hat dialogue box, shows it to be using LXRandR 0.1.2 -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8pufhigflyhrbvxxoys2vjyzqfvcktmszdpvdqhx+j...@mail.gmail.com