Re: os-prober Just a Rant

[DdB]

Am 25.05.2023 um 19:28 schrieb Andrea Borgia:
> 
> updates cause my edits to be overwritten... that sucks
> 
> 
> Ah, ok, I wasn't seeing ghosts, then!
>  

I am using os-prober sometimes, but i am aware, that it fails almost on
a regular basis on machines making use of ZFS. That has to be expected,
because ZFS is not very much interested in "partitions", not even in
"disks" but its main unit (a pool) is built out of one or more vdevs
(virtual devices) which can be anything from a regular file to a bunch
of disks. Certainly neither grub nor os-prober know, how to deal with
that properly, which is why i have been fixing grub.cfg after each
grub-update, and i set up my system to do so automatically using some
script, that does split the output from grub-mkconfig into pieces, sed
some parts of them and reassembles the resulting files into a working
grub.cfg.

Maybe i should not call os-prober broken (or grub, for that matter) but
people working on it certainly do not consider the wide range of
workflows making use of grub's features, but i consider it insufficient
for my needs big time.

FWIW - you are not alone.

DdB

Re: os-prober Just a Rant

[Max Nikulin]

On 26/05/2023 00:16, Peter Ehlert wrote:

updates cause my edits to be overwritten... that sucks


Do you mean the following bookworm update?

grub2 (2.06-4) unstable; urgency=high

  * Add a commented-out GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER section to
/etc/default/grub to make it easier for users to turn os-prober
back on if they want it. Closes: #1013797, #1009336

 -- Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org>  Wed, 14 Sep 2022 22:35:49 +0100


# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false


There are people who wants other OSes to be discovered and added to boot 
menu. That is why any default value is not suitable for a fraction of 
users. Besides GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER, there is GRUB_OS_PROBER_SKIP_LIST 
for more granular selection, see


info '(grub) Simple configuration'

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Simple-configuration.html

If you do not need os-prober, it seems you can just remove the package.

Are your complains caused by changes when os-prober was disabled for 
security reasons (it was announced in the NEWS file)


https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-December/041769.html

and the following changes to partially revert such decision (see bug 
reports mentioned in changelog entries)?



perhaps someone should fix that other crap and leave us normal people alone


What fix do you expect? I see at least the following attempt

grub2 (2.06-9) unstable; urgency=medium
  * Add debconf logic for GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER to make it easier to
control things here. Particularly useful for the installer.
Closes: #1031594, #1012865, #1025698.

 -- Steve McIntyre <93...@debian.org>  Thu, 20 Apr 2023 20:35:11 +0100

Fwd: acpi

[Aleix Piulachs]

-- Mensaje reenviado -
De: Aleix Piulachs 
Fecha: El jue, 25 may 2023 a las 21:26
Asunto: Re: acpi
Para: Alex 


these are the startup errors
[0.356880] ACPI Error:Needed type [Reference], found [Integer]
(___ptrval___) (20200925/exresop-66)
[0.356951] ACPI Error: AE_AML_OPERAND_TYPE, While resolving operands
for [OpcodeName unavailable] (20200925/dswexec-431)
[0.357018] ACPI Error: Aborting method \_PR.CPU0._PDC due to previous
error (AE_AML_OPERAND_TYPE) (20200925/psparse-529)
/dev/sda3: clean, 291329/16605184 files, 4074710/66406144 blocks

El El jue, 25 may 2023 a las 20:59, Alex  escribió:

> On Thu, 25 May 2023 20:55:02 +0200
> Aleix Piulachs  wrote:
>
> > When i start the computer it gives me acpi errors
>
> What error specifically?
>
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Re: acpi

[Alex]

On Thu, 25 May 2023 20:55:02 +0200
Aleix Piulachs  wrote:

> When i start the computer it gives me acpi errors

What error specifically?

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acpi

[Aleix Piulachs]

When i start the computer it gives me acpi errors

Re: os-prober Just a Rant

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 5/25/23, Andrea Borgia  wrote:
>> updates cause my edits to be overwritten... that sucks
>>
>>
> Ah, ok, I wasn't seeing ghosts, then!


Last time you all chatted this up, I went in and poked around. Now
that GRUB is FINALLY working again, it's only registering one
operating system. That's after changing GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER to
false here, too.

We do have the /etc/grub.d/40_custom and friends route, but my brain
hasn't been in a place to make use of that helpful feature again. My
old copies that would short track remembering how to do that are
trapped on a hard drive. It suffered a hopefully correctable
hibernation fail k/t Microsoft on a newly arrived secondhand desktop.

In the meantime of fixing that, LILO's config keeps coming back to
mind to further confuse the issue. Although.. glass half full on LILO
is that it was my first experience with changing the appearance of a
bootloader's welcoming screen. Just yesterday I almost started poking
around in GRUB's [dependencies] to attempt altering its appearance,
too. GRUB's latest update reminded that it was a to-do item
to-attempt.

Today is the first time I comprehended this part: "[R]unning os-prober
can cause damage to those guest (e.g. LVM) OSes as it mounts
filesystems to look for things."

Now I understand why that change occurred. I've noticed blips
indicating other programs were triggering partitions to mount but
never thought about the possibility of that action inflicting damage.
Good to know for programs beyond GRUB

Cindy :)
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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *

Re: os-prober Just a Rant

[Andrea Borgia]

> updates cause my edits to be overwritten... that sucks
>
>
Ah, ok, I wasn't seeing ghosts, then!

os-prober Just a Rant

[Peter Ehlert]

updates cause my edits to be overwritten... that sucks

# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false

perhaps someone should fix that other crap and leave us normal people alone

end of rant

Re: virtualisation

[Max Nikulin]

On 23/05/2023 05:18, David Christensen wrote:
1.  No UEFI boot variables/entries to create; BIOS/MBR detects devices 
connected to interfaces and I use Setup to set the boot order.  (I also 
set "Boot USB Devices First", so I can boot a live USB stick without 
having to touch Setup.)


There is no problem to boot usual live images that have single FAT 
partition. Removable disk layout is used in this case 
EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi (on amd64). It should be possible to enable USB 
boot and increase its priority from firmware setup. It might be 
implemented as modifying NVRAM to add a boot entry and to modify UEFI 
boot order.


I have never tried to make a portable installation. Even if specific 
UEFI implementation ignores removable path on EFI System Partition, I 
would try to make a first FAT partition that is not ESP with signed shim 
as EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.efi


With 
GPT, there is a secondary/ backup partition table located at the end of 
the device.  This forces you into to less flexible imaging choices:


I expect that --backup, --restore-backup, and --move-second-header 
options of sgdisk may help.

Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

[Étienne Mollier]

Bonjour,

J'ai signalé la disponibilité de xemacs 21.5.35 au mainteneur
via le bug Debian #1036764[1].  Mark me signale que la dernière
version est toujours considérée comme une publicaton beta, en
cours de développement.  Donc j'imagine qu'il reste un certain
nombre de bogues à clore.

[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1036764

Bonne journée,  :)
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Re: [Solved] LXDE ― Autorun on Every Start up — Applications, Commands, Scripts

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2023-05-18 16:53:39 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 18/05/2023 14:38, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> > Nearly none relevant on the internet:
> > https://www.google.com/search?q=lxde+docu
> > 
> > Forums isn't very informative:
> > https://forum.lxde.org/
> > 
> > So much wasted efforts all around!
> 
> Your internet is rather useless. Mine is much better:
> 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LXDE

Yes, wiki.archlinux.org often contains interesting information,
which applies to Debian.

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Re: Forcer postfix à envoyer vers une console pendant des tests

[Michel Verdier]

Le 25 mai 2023 NoSpam a écrit :

> Bonjour. Destinataire root@localhost et lire les messages avec mutt

Et pour éviter de changer les destinataires on peut utiliser alias_maps
ou virtual_alias_maps, selon le cas, pour rediriger sur root.

Re: Forcer postfix à envoyer vers une console pendant des tests

[NoSpam]

Bonjour. Destinataire root@localhost et lire les messages avec mutt

Le 25/05/2023 à 15:39, Olivier a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'installe très souvent postfix sur des serveurs distants qu'ils
envoient par SMTP différentes alertes.

Pendant que je prépare ces machines, il m'arrive souvent de vérifier
si les mécanismes d'alertes fonctionnent.
Pour éviter que les destinataires de ces alertes soient dérangés par
mes essais, je remplace leur adresse par une adresse temporaire.

Comme il peut m'arriver d'oublier de remplacer une adresse et qu'en
plus l'opération est fastidieuse, je préférerai que les mails qui
passent par Postfix soient redirigés vers une console ou vers un
fichier log le temps des essais.

Idéalement, je préférerai lire aussi bien quelques meta-données sur
les envois (date, addresses, ...) et le contenu des messages
eux-mêmes.

Connaissez-vous un moyen simple (sans trop changer la config de
Postfix)  pour faire cela ?

Slts

Forcer postfix à envoyer vers une console pendant des tests

[Olivier]

Bonjour,

J'installe très souvent postfix sur des serveurs distants qu'ils
envoient par SMTP différentes alertes.

Pendant que je prépare ces machines, il m'arrive souvent de vérifier
si les mécanismes d'alertes fonctionnent.
Pour éviter que les destinataires de ces alertes soient dérangés par
mes essais, je remplace leur adresse par une adresse temporaire.

Comme il peut m'arriver d'oublier de remplacer une adresse et qu'en
plus l'opération est fastidieuse, je préférerai que les mails qui
passent par Postfix soient redirigés vers une console ou vers un
fichier log le temps des essais.

Idéalement, je préférerai lire aussi bien quelques meta-données sur
les envois (date, addresses, ...) et le contenu des messages
eux-mêmes.

Connaissez-vous un moyen simple (sans trop changer la config de
Postfix)  pour faire cela ?

Slts

Começa hoje (25/05) a MiniDebConf Brasília 2023

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Olá,

Começou hoje (25/05) a MiniDebConf Brasília.

Você pode assistir as palestras que acontecerão hoje e amanhã no link 
abaixo:


https://brasilia.mini.debconf.org/

Abraços,

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Where is "LADSPA Noise Suppressor for Voice" for Kdenlive?

[Kent West]

I keep finding references on the 'Net to the LADSPA Noise Suppressor for
Voice plugin for Kdenlive, but Debian seems to not ship with it? Anyone
know why?

I wound up building it myself, and not being very experienced in such
things, it was more painful than it should have been, so here's my
step-by-step for building/installing it on Debian, in case anyone else
searches the archives for this info.

LADSPA Noise Suppressor for Voice on Debian, for Kdenlive

as of 24 May 2023
Kent West - kent.west@(that .com that swore to not be evil)


   1. The "librnnoise_ladspa.so" shared library is not in Debian's
   "/usr/lib/ladspa" path, so there is no "LADSPA Noise Suppressor for Voice"
   plugin within Debian's Kdenlive. Arg. The plugin does not seem to be
   available in Debian, so we'll compile it from source.
   2. Go to github.com and search for "noise-suppressor-for-voice" (by
   werman). Click on the green "Code" pull-down menu, and select "Download
   zip". Download it to your "~/Downloads" folder.
   3. Go to your "~Downloads" folder, and "*$ unzip
   "noise-suppressor-for-voice-master.zip*" file (you may want to first
   move it into a "temp" directory, etc, to keep it separate from other files
   in your "~/Downloads" folder).
   4. cd into the newly-created "noise-suppressor-for-voice-master"
   directory.
   5. Run "*cmake -Bbuild-x64 -H. -GNinja -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release*".
  - If "cmake" is not found, you may need to "*$ sudo apt install cmake*
  ".
  - If "Ninja" is not found, "*$ sudo apt install ninja-build*".
  - If "PkgConfig" is not found, "*$ sudo apt install pkg-config*".
  - If juceaide fails to build, look through the error messages for
  clues. It failed for me.
 - When I looked through the generated messages, I found a line
 that said, "fatal error: ft2build.h: No such file or
directory". I went to
 debian.org and searched the Packages for "ft2build.h", and found
 it in "libfreetype-dev", so I did a "*$ sudo apt install
 libfreetype-dev*".
 - Re-running "cmake -Bbuild-x64 -H. -GNinja
 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release", juceaide still failed to build.
This time the
 error was, "fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory". So I
 searched Debian's packages, and then "*$ sudo apt install
 libx11-dev*".
 - Re-running "cmake -Bbuild-x64 -H. -GNinja
 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release", juceaide still failed to build.
This time the
 error was, "fatal error: X11/extensions/Xrandr.h: No such file or
 directory". So I searched Debian's packages, and then "*$ sudo apt
 install libxrandr-dev*".
 - Re-run "cmake -Bbuild-x64 -H. -GNinja
 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release". This time, "fatal error:
 X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory", so "*$ sudo
 apt install libxinerama-dev*"
 - Re-run cmake; this time: "Xcursor.h", so "*$ sudo apt install
 libxcursor-dev*".
 - Re-run cmake; finally, success, with the message, "Build files
 have been written to:
 ~/Downloads/noise-suppressor-for-voice-master/build-x64".
  6. But we're not done yet; the library file we need is not yet in
   "build-x64/bin". So next, "*$ ninja -C build-x64*". Upon a successful
   run, there should now be a "librnnoise_ladspa.so" file in
   "build-x64/bin/ladspa".
   7. "*$ sudo mv build-x64/bin/ladspa/librnnoise_ladspa.so
   /usr/lib//ladspa/*".
   8. "*$ sudo chmod 644 /usr/lib/ladspa/librnnoise_ladspa.so*" (or match
   perms of other files here).
   9. "*$ sudo chown root:root /usr/lib/ladspa/librnnoise_ladspa.so*" (or
   match perms of other files here).
   10. Restart Kdenlive if it's running; now you should be able to search
   *Effects* for "noise suppressor for voice".

Success! (from https://kentwest.neocities.org/westk/librnnoise)

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[SOLVED] Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[Hans]

Am Donnerstag, 25. Mai 2023, 10:36:18 CEST schrieb Brad Rogers:
Hi Brad (and all the others),

this is what I missed. The table makes it fully understandable (did not know, 
that it exists), I always thought "freeze" means "Now do not touch all 
packages any more, except for bg problems" - and I saw no bg problems 
in packages like qt-libs or for example package "console-setup". 

Well, learnt something new! I am now for so long with debian (since potato, 
what is really a long time), but this was new for me.

You can get old as a rock - but you never get finished learning.

What a cool world!

Best regards

Hans 
> On Thu, 25 May 2023 10:06:16 +0200
> Hans  wrote:
> 
> Hello Hans,
> 
> >What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status
> >and do only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".
> 
> It's that.  Only "essential"(1) updates are permitted.  If you think
> there are a large number of updates now, wait until a few days after the
> release of bookworm and then see the slew of updates that arrive in
> testing.
> 
> (1) For certain values of "essential".  Values (plural) because what
> constitutes essential seems to vary from package to package and day to
> day.

Re: (deb-cat) debian-installer fosc, teclat català

[Narcis Garcia]

Responent en Joan (ja rebo bé l'humor), crec que els fabricants no 
s'equivoquen amb el teclat «espanyol», ja que està dedicat a l'estat 
espanyol o regne d'espanya.
L'idioma espanyol no existeix, així que el teclat «espanyol» no està 
dedicat a una llengua sinó als idiomes d'un territori.


On jo visc seria fantàstic que unifiquessin un teclat «pirinenc» i així 
s'acomodaria a tots els idiomes de les dues vessants de la serralada. 
Però això és un tema de maquinari i no pas de programari.
El programari ha de tenir en compte la realitat del maquinari, perquè 
sinó les confusions poden donar sorpreses quan canviï el maquinari.



El 25/5/23 a les 8:14, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
En poques setmanes es publicarà la nova versió Stable de Debian, la 12 
(bookworm), i estic provant la 3a candidata (RC3):


https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/

M'alegro que creixi la preocupació per la salut visual, i el debian 
installer (sobretot en mode text) permeti el tema de colors fosc.


He observat també que se segueix oferint una distribució de teclat que 
no existeix: Català.
Si un dia un fabricant en fa un d'específic, esperem que no resulti 
incompatible amb les instal·lacions fetes fins avui.




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Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ?

[Basile Starynkevitch]

On 5/25/23 10:17, firenze.rt wrote:


Bonjour tout le monde,

Jami est un logiciel qui évolue très vite. Il est donc difficile de 
dire catégoriquement s'il est complètement fonctionnel ou pas. C'est à 
surveiller.


Personnellement, Jami ne m'a jamais posé de problème pour l'usage que 
j'en fais (clavardage, partage de fichiers, visioconférence 1:1).


Ce que que je note, c'est que les performances de Jami semblent 
largement tributaires du débit de connexion disponible.
Pour le clavardage, le partage de fichiers, ou un simple appel audio 
l'ADSL suffit ; mais pour une visioconférence avec une qualité vidéo 
acceptable, la fibre est chaudement recommandée.




A mon avis c'est lié à la vidéo-conférence pas à Debian. Simple calcul: 
on transmet 800x600 pixels sur 24 bits (3 octets) 25 fois par seconde.  
Ca fait 1440 kiloctets par seconde (ou 14 megabits par seconde).


Ok, des algorithmes de compression de vidéo (coûteux en matériel et 
puissance de calcul) peuvent être utile.



Mais la bande passante et la puissance de calcul restent nécessaire. 
Quels que soient la qualité du logiciel vidéo, celle de ses 
développeurs, et la licence libre de son code, ou le système 
d'exploitation (Linux ou non).



Librement

NB. Je cherche des partenaires pour http://refpersys.org/

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Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 25 May 2023 10:06:16 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status
>and do only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".

It's that.  Only "essential"(1) updates are permitted.  If you think
there are a large number of updates now, wait until a few days after the
release of bookworm and then see the slew of updates that arrive in
testing.

(1) For certain values of "essential".  Values (plural) because what
constitutes essential seems to vary from package to package and day to
day.

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Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[tomas]

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 10:06:16AM +0200, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks, 
> 
> just a little thing, I am somehow confused about.
> 
> I read that debian/testing is now in state "freeze" as the next release is 
> shortly to come.
> 
> As I running "bookworm" now, I am wondering, that debian/testing (aka 
> bookworm), still gets a lot of changed packages last days. 
> 
> Obviously I seem to misunderstand the meaning of "freeze". 
> 
> Does "freeze" mean "No new packages" od does it mean "actual packages in 
> testing will not be changed any more till next release". 
> 
> What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status and 
> do 
> only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".

Freeze has its phases (which makes sense, you slowly move
"from inside out" -- a change in a basic package might
"ripple out" to its dependencies. See [1] for the full story.

Cheers

[1] https://release.debian.org/bookworm/freeze_policy.html
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Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[DdB]

Am 25.05.2023 um 10:06 schrieb Hans:
> Hi folks, 
> 
> just a little thing, I am somehow confused about.
> 
> I read that debian/testing is now in state "freeze" as the next release is 
> shortly to come.
> 
> As I running "bookworm" now, I am wondering, that debian/testing (aka 
> bookworm), still gets a lot of changed packages last days. 
> 
> Obviously I seem to misunderstand the meaning of "freeze". 
> 
> Does "freeze" mean "No new packages" od does it mean "actual packages in 
> testing will not be changed any more till next release". 
> 
> What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status and 
> do 
> only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".
> 
> There are almost a hundered packages I got untill "freeze" and my change to 
> bookworm (aka testing).
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 

https://release.debian.org/bookworm/freeze_policy.html
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Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[Erwan David]

Le 25/05/2023 à 10:06, Hans a écrit :

Hi folks,

just a little thing, I am somehow confused about.

I read that debian/testing is now in state "freeze" as the next release is
shortly to come.

As I running "bookworm" now, I am wondering, that debian/testing (aka
bookworm), still gets a lot of changed packages last days.

Obviously I seem to misunderstand the meaning of "freeze".

Does "freeze" mean "No new packages" od does it mean "actual packages in
testing will not be changed any more till next release".

What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status and do
only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".

There are almost a hundered packages I got untill "freeze" and my change to
bookworm (aka testing).

  


If you look at the changelogs, you'll see that those upgrades are either 
because of security corrections, or to handle packaging or upgrade problems

eg (today upgrade for me)

--- Changes for texlive-bin (texlive-binaries libptexenc1 libsynctex2 
libtexlua53-5 libtexluajit2 libkpathsea6) ---

texlive-bin (2022.20220321.62855-5.1) unstable; urgency=high

  * Non-maintainer upload.
  * Fix improperly secured shell-escape in LuaTeX (CVE-2023-32700)

 -- Salvatore Bonaccorso   Thu, 18 May 2023 23:15:13 
+0200


--- Changes for boost1.74 (libboost-chrono1.74.0 
libboost-filesystem1.74.0 libboost-iostreams1.74.0 libboost-thread1.74.0 
libboost-locale1.74.0 libboost-program-options1.74.0 
libboost-python1.74.0 libboost-regex1.74.0 libboost1.74-dev) ---

boost1.74 (1.74.0+ds1-21) unstable; urgency=medium

  [ Andreas Beckmann ]
  * [f41f9a1] libboost-thread1.74.0: Add Breaks: 
libboost-regex1.74.0-icu67 for

  smoother upgrades from bullseye. (Closes: #1036070)

 -- Anton Gladky   Fri, 19 May 2023 09:24:56 +0200

(output of apt-changelogs)
freeze is that the software at kept at the same versions so that the 
teams preparing the distribution can concentrate on those problems.

Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ?

[firenze.rt]

Bonjour tout le monde,Jami est un logiciel qui évolue très vite. Il est donc difficile de dire catégoriquement s'il est complètement fonctionnel ou pas. C'est à surveiller.Personnellement, Jami ne m'a jamais posé de problème pour l'usage que j'en fais (clavardage, partage de fichiers, visioconférence 1:1).Ce que que je note, c'est que les performances de Jami semblent largement tributaires du débit de connexion disponible.Pour le clavardage, le partage de fichiers, ou un simple appel audio l'ADSL suffit ; mais pour une visioconférence avec une qualité vidéo acceptable, la fibre est chaudement recommandée.La fonctionnalité du point de rendez-vous, qui permet de transformer l'ordinateur hôte en serveur de visioconférence, permet aussi de palier à la faiblesse du débit de connexion des autres participants.La prise en main de Jami est similaire à Skype, à la différence que la création d'un compte ne nécessite absolument aucune donnée personnelle et peut se faire hors-ligne. Les données du compte ne sont stockées que localement. Si on veut utiliser un même compte sur un autre appareil, il faut le dupliquer à partir d'un fichier de sauvegarde.Il faut aussi noter que si on a le choix, il vaut mieux utiliser Jami sur un ordinateur de bureau (desktop/laptop) que sur un ordiphone (smartphone) ou une tablette. En dépit des progrès qui on été faits jusque-là, Jami reste gourmand en énergie.Pour en savoir plus :https://jami.net/@+Firenzeenvoyé : 22 mai 2023 à 20:41de : Hugues Larrive à : RogerT Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgobjet : Re : Re: outil libre et simple de discussion et de partage de ressources ?Bonjour,La dernière fois que je me suis intéressé à ce sujet j'avais trouvé jami :Description-en: Secure and distributed voice, video, and chat platform - desktop client Jami is an end-to-end encrypted secure and distributed voice, video, and chat communication platform that requires no central server and leaves the power of privacy and freedom in the hands of users. . To some degree Jami provides similar functionality like Telegram, BigBlueButton, Jitsi Meet, etc do. . Jami supports the following key features: * One-to-one conversations * File sharing * Audio calls and conferences * Video calls and conferences * Screen sharing in video calls and conferences * Recording and sending audio messages * Recording and sending video messages * Functioning as a SIP phone software . Jami client applications for several desktop and mobile operating systems and platforms are available on https://jami.net/, making Jami an interoperable, cross-platform communication framework. .Je n'ai toujours pas eu l'occasion de le mettre en œuvre ou de le tester.Quelqu'un à un retour d'expérience à partager sur jami ?@+Hugues--- Original Message ---Le dimanche 21 mai 2023 à 13:42, RogerT  a écrit :  Excellent. Si Framasoft l’utilise…Merci.> Le 19 mai 2023 à 12:25, Fab f...@kaz.bzh a écrit :>> 'lut,>> > Si on veut ou doit exclure Whatsapp, et même Signal/Telegram/etc. , quel outil similaire et libre peut-on installer en un clin d’oeil sur un hôte debian pour équiper un groupe de travail ?> Mattermost ? c'est ce qu'utilise Framasoft pour les milliers d'équipes qu'ils hébergent. Ainsi que de nombreux CHATONS.>> a+>

What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

[Hans]

Hi folks, 

just a little thing, I am somehow confused about.

I read that debian/testing is now in state "freeze" as the next release is 
shortly to come.

As I running "bookworm" now, I am wondering, that debian/testing (aka 
bookworm), still gets a lot of changed packages last days. 

Obviously I seem to misunderstand the meaning of "freeze". 

Does "freeze" mean "No new packages" od does it mean "actual packages in 
testing will not be changed any more till next release". 

What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status and do 
only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".

There are almost a hundered packages I got untill "freeze" and my change to 
bookworm (aka testing).

 

Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

[Michel Verdier]

Le 25 mai 2023 didier gaumet a écrit :

> J'ai l'impression en regardant le site Xemacs et les docs d'install de
> l'archive à télécharger que la construction de Xemacs se fait à la carte 
> (avec ou sans Mule, avec ou sans Gnome et Gtk, etc...) et que l'équipe Xemacs

Oui il y a des paquets xemacs avec et sans mule. Pour gtk c'est emacs qui est
avec ou sans.

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye=all=any=names=emacs

Re: (deb-cat) Escriptori predeterminat: Mate

[Joan Baptista]

Bon dia, Narcis.

Aquesta setmana he provat Debian 12 amb VirtualBox, i m'està agradant molt.

Responc a les teves 2 preguntes, com puc, ara que puc:

1. Que no vengui teclats catalans en cap part del món (igual que tampoc els
venen d'altres idiomes) NO vol dir que els sistemes operatius i les
distribucions GNU/Linux no hagin d'oferir (com fa décades que ho fan, la
major part de Linux i altres sistemes operarius privatius/de pagament)
s'equivoquin quan ofereixen la possibilitat de que les tecles d'aquests
teclats espanyols quedin assigandes amb els caràcters asciii que solem fer
servir les persones catalanes.

Disculpa si estaves fent un acudit sobre això ... ja veus que jo tinc un
sentit del humor força diferent (millor o pitjor ... no ho se) que el teu 


2. No recordo quina interfase gràfica oferia per defecte, però si
instal.les, ho veuras. El que si et puc dir es que jo soc fan de interfases
gràfiques lleugeres, vaig triar Xfce i em seguia oferint com sempre un munt
d'opcions, entre les quals recordo MATE, LXDE, LXqt, Xfce, GNOME ... etc

-

El dj., 25 de maig 2023, 9:24, Narcis Garcia  va
escriure:

> Bon dia de nou;
>
> És possible que s'hagi escollit MATE com a escriptori predeterminat,
> recomanat o preseleccionat per aquesta propera versió 12 de Debian?
>
> Algú té referències sobre la tria?
>
> Gràcies.
>
> --
>
> Narcis Garcia
>
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(deb-cat) Escriptori predeterminat: Mate

[Narcis Garcia]

Bon dia de nou;

És possible que s'hagi escollit MATE com a escriptori predeterminat, 
recomanat o preseleccionat per aquesta propera versió 12 de Debian?


Algú té referències sobre la tria?

Gràcies.

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ar8161 gigabit Ethernet drivers

[Aleix Piulachs]

I still can’t use the qualcomm atheros ar8161 alx gigabit ethernet drivers

Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

[didier gaumet]

Bonjour,

Je calme tout de suite les inquiétudes: ça fait trop longtemps que j'ai 
abandonné le développement pour émettre un avis pertinent, donc juste 
prendre ce qui suit comme une éventuelle piste et rien d'autre :-)


J'ai l'impression en regardant le site Xemacs et les docs d'install de 
l'archive à télécharger que la construction de Xemacs se fait à la carte 
(avec ou sans Mule, avec ou sans Gnome et Gtk, etc...) et que l'équipe 
Xemacs considère que si on sort sort du basique tronc commun, il faut 
soi-même incorporer les bibliothèques de développement concernées qui 
sont nécessaires et que de plus il faut bien gérer tout ça pour que des 
bibliothèques qui sont effectivement installées soient bien vues et 
prises en compte pour la construction?
Donc peut-être regarder si il ne manque pas des bibliothèques de 
développement graphiques?
Me souviens plus, on n'avait pas parlé il y a quelques semaines ou mois 
d'un outil pour trouver automatiquement quelles dépendances incorporer 
pour une construction?


Bref, je raconte peut-être vraiment n'importe quoi parce que je n'ai pas 
bien lu ou compris l'exposé de Basile et Etienne, auquel cas désolé pour 
le bruit :-)

Re: compiler xemacs-21.5.35 sous Debian (sid)

[Basile Starynkevitch]

On 5/24/23 22:31, Étienne Mollier wrote:

Bonjour Basile,

Basile Starynkevitch, on 2023-05-24:

/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined reference to
`x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/menubar-x.c:520: undefined
reference to `x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/ccua0L0n.ltrans74.ltrans.o: in function
`popup_selection_callback':
/usr/src/Editors/xemacs-21.5.35/src/gui-x.c:308: undefined reference to
`x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Le problème de xemacs 21.5.35 est reproductible avec gcc-12 de
Debian sid.  Le symbole manquant est défini à deux emplacements
différents dans le code source, ce qui ne facilite pas la
résolution :

 $ grep x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better -r
 src/menubar-x.c:  extern Time 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/menubar-x.c:   x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/gui-x.c:  extern Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;
 src/gui-x.c:  DEVICE_X_MOUSE_TIMESTAMP (d) = 
x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

  src/event-gtk.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

 src/event-gtk.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better = 
time(0);

  lwlib/xlwmenu.c:Time x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better;

 lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =
 lwlib/xlwmenu.c:  x_focus_timestamp_really_sucks_fix_me_better =

À mon avis ce serait à signaler à l'équipe de developpement
amont de xemacs.  Ce qui me surprend, c'est que le phénomène ne
se soit pas déclenché plus tôt ; ces définitions ne sont
apparemment pas nouvelles quand on regarde dans d'anciennes
versions de xemacs.

Si ça peut aider,



Je n'ai pas réussi à faire un rapport de bogue sur xemacs.org

(ma principale préoccupation actuelle est mon dossier de retraite, 
prévue le 1er nov. 2023; avec seulement 4 employeurs principaux -ENS 
Cachan, CEA, INRIA, université- c'est bigrement compliqué).


Bien sûr à la retraite je continuerais de développer http://refpersys.org/


Librement

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web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

(deb-cat) debian-installer fosc, teclat català

[Narcis Garcia]

En poques setmanes es publicarà la nova versió Stable de Debian, la 12 
(bookworm), i estic provant la 3a candidata (RC3):


https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/

M'alegro que creixi la preocupació per la salut visual, i el debian 
installer (sobretot en mode text) permeti el tema de colors fosc.


He observat també que se segueix oferint una distribució de teclat que 
no existeix: Català.
Si un dia un fabricant en fa un d'específic, esperem que no resulti 
incompatible amb les instal·lacions fetes fins avui.


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