Re: Marvell Yukon gigabit ethernet card
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 23:56 +0200, Alex Fernandez wrote: > Hi all, --snip-- > The problem is the Marvell Yukon 88E8053 gigabit Ethernet card, > integrated on the motherboard. I have seen many bug reports about this > card, dating from 2004; discover-data, debian-installer, the kernel > itself -- given Debian's usual focus on quality, I'm surprised the > problem is still there after all this time. The installer cannot bring > up the card, and after reporting some network problem it seems to > hang. Well, I have the same card and it is CURRENTLY not working. However, when I first upgraded to 2.6.16 it DID work. I was forced to go back to .15 (and my other NIC) due to some problems with the NVIDIA drivers for my video card, but the Yukon board DID work with 2.6.16. Sorry I can't be much more helpful than that. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: LVM2 snapshot question
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 13:56 -0500, Grant Thomas wrote: > > On 5/13/06, Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It's one of the greatest > > strengths of LVM in my opinion. (Second only to pairing it with xfs and > > allowing growing the filesystem without unmounting.) > > > Doesn't Reiser allow mounted filesystem growth? > Yup, reiser can be grown online as well. So lets make that "Second only to pairing it with xfs or reiserfs and allowing growing the filesystem without unmounting." -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: LVM2 snapshot question
On Sat, 2006-05-13 at 13:00 -0400, Jiann-Ming Su wrote: > On 5/13/06, Arafangion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What happens if the data changes during your sync? This is why people > > are looking at using LVM snapshots - during which rsync'ing would be a > > good idea > > > > How does the LVM snapshot get around the problem of a changing > filesystem during the snapshot? I'm not sure if you're asking about snapshots in general, or just about files changes during the moment when the snapshot is created. I'm not sure about the latter, but creating an LVM snapshots takes only a few seconds so I'd imagine it's not much of an issue. If you're asking about snapshots in general, however, that's the whole point of having snapshots. LVM takes a chunk of available space from the drive and designates it a snapshot diff area. Once the snapshot is activated, the current filesystem is "frozen" in place. No further changes are written to the original filesystem. Any future changes are written directly to the snapshot diff area. LVM transparently keeps track of both of these areas and returns a "unified" filesystem to the OS that includes all of the changes that have been made since the snapshot. However, if you ever decide to go back to the time of the snapshot, LVM just dumps the diff area and starts using the original image again. If, later, you decide that you want to keep all of the changes, LVM merges those changes in with the original filesystem and you're left with an up-to-date filesystem. It's kind of like having a CVS for filesystems. It's one of the greatest strengths of LVM in my opinion. (Second only to pairing it with xfs and allowing growing the filesystem without unmounting.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: xmms and the vorbis plugin
On Sun, 2006-05-07 at 13:24 +0200, LeVA wrote: > Hi! > > I can not make this plugin work. I've installed the xmms package, which comes > with an ogg input plugin, but when I enqueue an ogg file, xmms *slowly* loads > the file, and when I try to play it, xmms just jumps to the next track, and > doesn't play the ogg file. > Anyone managed to get an ogg file played with xmms? Check to make sure that you have libogg0, libvorbis0a and libvorbisfile3 installed. The xmms package Recommends them but it does NOT Depend on them. (Since xmms will still "work" without being able to play ogg files.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Gnome locale
I'm not sure if this is a problem with my local setup or if something has changed with the packaging of Gnome in the last few months, but Gnome seems to be convinced that it's running with a UK locale. All of the menus are in "proper" (UK) English. "Colours", "organisations", "Wastebasket" instead of "Trash", etc. (Ironically, my English (American) spell checker is showing the above as misspelled.) Looking at my system settings the only thing that's suspect is my LANGUAGE setting. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= What's strange is that when I set up the "locales" package I didn't select any GB items. I just reconfirmed it (wajig reconfigure locales) and the only locales I have selected in there are US. Any ideas if the above could be causing this behavior, and, if so, how to change it? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: LVM - dead disk
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 20:04 -0800, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 22:25 +0200, Chris Searle wrote: > --snip-- > > Vol group vg0 consisted of hda3, hdb1 and hdc1 (the plusses and > > minuses of this idea I'm well aware of - at the time it seemed > > appropriate for what I was trying to get working). > > > > Now - hdc burnt out (real smoke, smell of burning plastic, nasty > > clicking noises afterwards if you power it). > > > > So - on boot - lvm can't find vg0. > > > > I've inspected the metadata - and it confirms what I thought > > > > The pv's on hdc1 were a single data storage partition - no /usr, no / > > var etc etc. > > > > So - the usr, var, home etc partitions are fine. > --snip-- > > Is there any way to tell lvm2 that the disk is gone? That the > > metadata file is the correct version? > > I'd start by looking at vgreduce and work up from there. And you're > lucky that you didn't get too greedy with using all of those spindles. I > would have striped all of my lv's across all three drives, and then I > would have been up a creek without a spindle. ;) > Sorry, I just now realized that my threading was broken and I didn't see any of the previous responses to the thread. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: LVM - dead disk
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 22:25 +0200, Chris Searle wrote: --snip-- > Vol group vg0 consisted of hda3, hdb1 and hdc1 (the plusses and > minuses of this idea I'm well aware of - at the time it seemed > appropriate for what I was trying to get working). > > Now - hdc burnt out (real smoke, smell of burning plastic, nasty > clicking noises afterwards if you power it). > > So - on boot - lvm can't find vg0. > > I've inspected the metadata - and it confirms what I thought > > The pv's on hdc1 were a single data storage partition - no /usr, no / > var etc etc. > > So - the usr, var, home etc partitions are fine. --snip-- > Is there any way to tell lvm2 that the disk is gone? That the > metadata file is the correct version? I'd start by looking at vgreduce and work up from there. And you're lucky that you didn't get too greedy with using all of those spindles. I would have striped all of my lv's across all three drives, and then I would have been up a creek without a spindle. ;) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Compatible VoIP software on Debian
On Sat, 2005-12-31 at 10:14 -0500, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 12/31/2005 03:40 AM, Chris Howie wrote: > > Ah, I should have mentioned this. I am specifically looking for something > > that > > is *not* Skype, because (a) Skype has no ALSA support and very bad OSS > > support, > > making it a chore to use, and (b) it cannot be installed alongside KDE 3.4, > > which I plan to dist-upgrade to soon (I'm holding back until amarok is > > installable). > > > > Perhaps you could use a free client, like kphone, and a free service > like free world dialup, http://www.freeworlddialup.com/ . > > apt-cache search voip # for more ideas. > > I've connected to fwd with kphone, but had old-computer-soundcard issues. For your end, I would try linphone or kphone since they're both pre-packaged in Debian. For the people you're talking to who might be using Windows, any SIP client will work. (Open standards are a wonderful thing. :) ) Check out this URL for a list of Free clients for various OS's. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Open+Source+VOIP+Software Alternately, you could try gnomemeeting on your end with MS NetMeeting for your friends. (If you don't mind subjecting them to the evils of MS software, that is. :) ) They both use H.323, so you'll get video and voice. H.323 tends to be much more sensitive to network connections however, so you may get spotty results running over the Internet. (It was originally used for direct ISDN connections between video conferencing systems.) Hope that helps. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Using par2
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 21:24 +0700, David Garamond wrote: > I found out about par2 a few days ago and I think it's absolutely > great. And I think I've grasped the basic concept. But does anyone > know how to use par2 to accomplish the following: > > Suppose I have 5000MB of data. That's a bit over 7 CDs (or 1 DVD). Can > I backup this data to, like, 10 CDs or alternatively 3 DVDs, *and* be > able to recover the original data using any 8 of the CDs (or any 2 of > the DVDs). So if I lose up to 2 random CDs of the CD set, or 1 random > DVD of the DVD set, I can still fully recover the whole data? Well, it's not QUITE that easy. You'll need to have the par files available somewhere. (These are the files that par2 will generate for you.) If you decide to put them on a CD, and that's one of the CD's you lose, you're out of luck. But as long as you keep the PAR files somewhere safe you could (probably) lose 1 or 2 CD's out of a 10 CD set and still recover. With the DVD's it would be a different issue. Recovering from 33% data loss would be tricky. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Holiday computer access problems!
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 02:26 +0100, Nils Erik Svangård wrote: --snip-- > I have three computers one at my parents (Win XP), one in a server > rack witch I have root access via SSH(debian stable), and my home > computer (debian unstable) which seem to only have port 80 open, I > think my ISP have a firewall, but I dont know. > I usually do portgatway yes on my server in sshd.conf and forward my > port 22 on my home computer via port 4567 on my server computer, now > however all my port forwarding stuff seems to be dead, I cant access > my home computer :/ > I want to ssh in to my computer and restart my port forwardning > processes. Ok, just to make sure I'm understanding you here. We're dealing with 3 machines. The XP one that your parents have isn't all that important. For the other two, I'm kind of confused what you meant. This is what I'm understanding: 1) A Debian server somewhere with port 4567 being forwarded to port 22 on your home PC. (This server is NOT at your home) 2) A Debian PC at home with only port 80 publicly available, and with port 22 (presumably) open only to connections from the IP of box #1. If this is correct, then you can just connect to box #1 and do a direct SSH connection to #2. If the port-forwarding isn't working it's either because #1 isn't doing the forwarding correctly, or because #2 is down. If I'm not understanding you correctly here, then please give us some more details on how exactly the two boxes are connected. > I have a ssh connection from my home computer to my server via ssh, > can I take that process over somehow to restart the stuff? > I have of course root password to my home computer and my user account > on that computer. Is there a way to perhaps telnet to port 80 and > somehow get a login prompt, from which I can log in as root or any > user? > I don't believe there's any way to do this. SSH server and client processes only work in the direction they're supposed to, to the best of my knowledge. But if I got the part in #1 right, then you shouldn't need to get to this point anyway. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ping claims lost packets
On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 23:54 -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > I'm experiencing something very strange: running ping several times in a > row results in lost packets from ping's point of view, even though the > kernel is getting the echo replies back. > > I can experience this on demand by running ping, with tcpdump running in > another window and watching for ICMP traffic. Leaving tcpdump running, > and stopping and restarting ping, often results in the stated behavior. > The replies keep coming back, but ping doesn't recognize them for > whatever reason. > > Any ideas what could be wrong, and how to troubleshoot it further? I can > inspect deeper into the packets, if I had some idea of why ping (the > application) would discard what appears to be valid replies. I'd suggest looking at your iptables settings. I believe that tcpdump will pick up packets BEFORE they're filtered by iptables, whereas ping would obviously sit BEHIND the firewall. In this way, if iptables was set up to drop ICMP packets, the kernel would still receive them, but ping wouldn't. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Booting Debian directly into a 'regular user account
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 14:07 +0100, Obiajulu Odu wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any way to configure Debian Sarge to boot directly into a > 'regular user' account without entering user name or password? In > other words boot directly into a '$' prompt. The Debian machine will > not be connected to internet. So the issue of security is not importan > here. The machine will be only used to present on the screen a > “powerpoint –like” showing of pictures of books available at the > library. > I'm assuming you're going to be wanting to have it end up in an X session sooner or later, so you can just set up gdm and configure it to automatically log in a user of your choosing without asking for name or password. So you can just create a user with no real permissions and set their session to start up your slideshow of choice at login. Hope that helps. > -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
ve one > leg to stand on about what is my opinion vs. what is *fact*. So what exactly do I have to do to get the other leg then? :) --snip-- > I rest my case on your opinion versus my facts. As do I. > > My question, > > as before, remains what practical benefit this software presents that > > CANNOT be achieved otherwise? > > See above. Tired of educating you Alex. Really tired. I am feeling pretty tired myself. But, then, it's past midnight, local time. :) As a side note, I'm all for continuing this discussion in a civil manner (if there is anything left to discuss that is), but I don't feel that it's appropriate for either of us to make personal assaults against the other in the course of said discussion. If I have done that in any of my previous statements in this message, or any other one, I do apologize. So shall we move on? My question still stands; what practical benefit does the proprietary RAR solution present that CANNOT be achieved by using the free tools of tar, gz, and split? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 21:47 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: --snip-- > This is not quite true. Usually, with a disc file or a file transmitted > over a link of some sort, a block of bytes gets corrupted, usually with > a size on the order of 1KB. If an archive is much larger than 1KB (the > usual case, in my experience) then most of the archive may actuallly > be usable. If each file contained in the archive has a separate > redundancy check, then one may be able (in my experience, usually can) > do a partial recovery, and extract some of the information. In one case, > I had backups which got corrupted (due to a virus overwriting sectors > on floppy discs). I had the same file corrupted in different places, > and was able to recover the entire archive (it was a PKZIPped archive) > by doing partial recovery on two different backups of the same archive. This is a good point. But this is also not a feature specific to RAR, as you point out. Zip archives, among others, can do this as well. --snip-- > Why do you suppose we put cyclic redundancy checks into messages > used in various protocols, like FTP, TCP, IP, MTP, etc? By your > reasoning, ISTM, you would view such cyclic redundancy checks to > be invalid. They should be sent via a separate message. But then > what checks the separate messages? Or in your case, what checks > the separate files? How do you know your separate files containing > the redundancy checks aren't corrupt? Do you have another set of > files checking the check files? And what checks the check check files? > > To put it another way, are you aware that hard discs have redundancy > in them to allow one to recover corrupted sectors? By your reasoning, > this could not be put on the same disc, it would have to be on > another disc. Yes, but CRC checks on packets of data (a few kilobytes at a time) are much different than a checksum on a 10, 20, or 50 MB archive, particularly when speaking in terms of a lower-bandwidth connection. It's easy enough to resend a TCP/IP packet if the CRC check fails. However, we want to AVOID resending a 50 MB file if the checksum doesn't agree with the file. It's much easier to re-download a 1K checksum file than a 50 MB archive. WRT to your statement about hard drives, I believe the feature you're referring to is the ability to ignore bad sectors, not recover data from them. If the drive determines a particular sector to be bad, it will mark it as being bad and write the data elsewhere. If the data has already been written to a sector, and that sector subsequently goes bad I'm not aware of any low-level features to allow the recovery of that sector after the fact. --snip-- > (1) the ability to open and extract files from previously created RAR > format archives, and (2) the exchange of files with people who as a > customary practice use that format for archiving and compression > and prefer to send and receive them in that format. (1) unrar-free would do this as well (2) see below > I can't control my neighbor's dog, let alone my neighbor. If > someone I am doing a contract for requests RAR format, then > that's what he'll get, and I won't argue. I consider putting > food on my table a very practical thing. I completely agree. I'm not fortunate enough to be able to make a living evangelizing free software either. (I work at a 99% MS shop. Used to be 100% until I got there, so I'm making inroads. :) ) However, the original question referred to how to archive a large amount of data and split it into pieces for transferring to someone else. If someone REQUESTS RAR specifically, and I have a business relationship with them, I'll certainly oblige. However, if the format is unspecified, as in this case it was, I would certainly choose to use free software to do the job. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 18:51 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Alex Malinovich wrote: --snip-- > > I don't know, maybe I'm just dense or something, but explain to me why > > you would WANT to put that information in the archive itself? > > What, the checksums? Uh, so the reference is where you need it, with the > archive. No need to go external. Also since the checksums are on a > per-file-inside-the-archive basis you can see what files are corrupt and > extract around that. Something tar, esp. split tars, is utterly incapable of. > Trust me, I tried. This is all assuming that the portion of the file that got corrupted ISN'T the portion storing the checksum data. If it is, the file is of no use to you. > > If an archive is CORRUPTED (which is why we're distributing the sums and the > > PARs in the first place), what good will it be that the sums and > > recovery info are IN the file? > > Partial recoveries in spite of the above. IE, redundancy is a good thing. > Say the part of the archive that is corrupt is a file that isn't needed. You > don't have to wast an entire PAR on that section. Just extract the other > files and ignore the corrupted one. I seem to recall someone saying something about being responsible and educating one's self on a piece of software? You don't "use up" a PAR. It's not a bandage, or a tissue. It's perfectly possible to restore more than one file with one PAR. (Depending on the total number of parts in the archive set and the total number of PAR's included.) --snip-- > I'd say that's pretty much a certainty. Please, if you're going to start > blasting a piece of software on its technical merits at least do the > responsible thing and educate yourself of what it can and cannot do prior to > stepping up on your soapbox and inserting your foot into your mouth? Thanks. I don't believe I ever began "blasting" a piece of software. What I did was refute YOUR assertion that RAR is superior to a combination of free software tools that performs a nearly-identical function. If you want to use a non-free archiving utility, you are quite welcome to do so. Just don't state AS FACT your OPINION that an equivalent result cannot be obtained using different tools. I'm very familiar with the RAR program and its evolution over the last 10+ years, including the new features that 3.0 introduced. My question, as before, remains what practical benefit this software presents that CANNOT be achieved otherwise? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 16:15 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Alex Malinovich wrote: > > The same way that RAR does. They tell you whether that discreet part of > > the archive is corrupted or not. If it is corrupted it's just as useless > > whether it's a RAR archive or any other type of archive. > > Bzt, try again. I asked "against what". You create the archives and > they're sitting there on the disc. You use whatever tool you want and it > spits out a value. Against what do you check that value? There is no > reference to check against. RAR, on the other hand, computes the value for > the files inside the archive and stores that value *in the archive itself*. > Later when you ask it to check the validity of the archive it can reference > the stored value. That's why you include a checksums file with the archive set and/or list the sums at the point of origin (web site, FTP site, etc). > > Sorry, but I'm just not seeing it. If RAR had some recovery features > > along the lines of PAR, I might be more impressed. > > Be impressed. Why do you think one of the reasons unrar-free can't deal > with >= 3.00 rar files? From RAR's 3.0 notes: > > 9. Added support of so called recovery volumes (.rev files), which can be used > to reconstruct missing files in a volume set. One .rev file allows to > reconstruct one missing RAR volume, for example, 5 .rev files are able to > reconstruct any 5 volumes. > > > But seeing as how PAR > > works with any type of a multi-part archive I'm just not seeing any > > particular strength to using RAR. > > Combine the above. Again, reference against what? That information needs > to be created and stored at the time of creation. Having an md5sum 3 months > later with nothing to check it against is useless. I don't know, maybe I'm just dense or something, but explain to me why you would WANT to put that information in the archive itself? If an archive is CORRUPTED (which is why we're distributing the sums and the PARs in the first place), what good will it be that the sums and recovery info are IN the file? It's ALREADY corrupt, so what makes you think the recovery data wouldn't be corrupt right along with it?! Or am I just missing something painfully obvious here? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 23:35 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > Well, just use md5sum, sha1sum, etc. > > Against what, exactly? How do these verify the contents within that > discrete piece of the archive? The same way that RAR does. They tell you whether that discreet part of the archive is corrupted or not. If it is corrupted it's just as useless whether it's a RAR archive or any other type of archive. > > Or use .zip with zipsplit -n . . . I > > don't see that rar has any particular advantage there. > > Point being was that split is a very clunky way to do things. Rar's > splitting is far superior to both the above mentioned hacks. Sorry, but I'm just not seeing it. If RAR had some recovery features along the lines of PAR, I might be more impressed. But seeing as how PAR works with any type of a multi-part archive I'm just not seeing any particular strength to using RAR. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Neal Stephenson on Debian
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:26 -0800, Tony Godshall wrote: > "As far as I know, Debian is the only distribution with its > own constitution... but what really sold me on it was its > phenomenal bug database... which is a sort of interactive > Doomsday Book of error, fallability, and redemption..." > > -- Neal Stephenson > In The Beginning Was The Command Line, 1999, p.106 Thanks for the quote. I'm assuming you've just now read In the Beginning? Better late than never I guess. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:59 -0600, Gnu-Raiz wrote: --snip-- > will probably laugh at you. How else are you going to get a > uniform file size of say 15mb each in your sample if you > don't use rar? tar cz sample/ | split -db 15m - sample.tar.gz Would work just fine for me. Or, if you have to use something more windows friendly, zipsplit would do the trick as well. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Power button not shuting down debian
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 16:35 +1100, Neil Dugan wrote: > Hi I have an old compaq computer, when it had Fedora on it I could do a > short press of the power button, and the computer would shut-down nicely. > > I have since upgraded to Debian, the problem is that pressing the power > button no longer shuts the computer down. > > Any help in this would be appreciated. The PC is probably using a "modern" (ATX) architecture (modern is a relative term here... :) ), meaning that the power button just sends a signal to the motherboard. How the motherboard interprets this signal is dependent on what you've told it. By default, the signal tells the motherboard to shut down the power supply, thereby shutting the computer off. But if you load APM or ACPI modules, the motherboard is told to ignore the power button signal and just pass it on to the OS. The OS then chooses what to do with the signal. (Usually put the computer into a sleep mode.) At this point you usually need to hold down the power button for 4-5 seconds to tell the system that yes, you really mean power off, and you mean it NOW. That's a pretty gross oversimplification, but that's basically what's happening. So then the answer to your question depends on what your question actually is: Q: How can I shut my computer off now? A: Hold down the power button for a few seconds. OR Q: How can I get the computer to shut off immediately when I push power? A: Unload the APM or ACPI modules, if they're loaded (using modprobe -r or rmmod). Personally, I would strongly recommend the former. There's rarely a good reason to disable power management features unless they're causing stability issues. And in those cases you're usually better of changing the mode of management used (APM or ACPI) instead of abandoning the concept altogether. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: DHCP with Static Addresses
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 20:14 +0200, Maxim Vexler wrote:
> On 11/25/05, Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > am> If you're using DHCP and you want to have "static" IPs for your
> > am> devices what you need to do is assign a static lease on the DHCP
> > am> server. Assuming you're using dhcpd you'll want something
> > am> similar to this in your dhcpd.conf:
> >
> > am> host yourhostname {
> > am> hardware ethernet 00:11:22:AA:BB:CC;
> > am> fixed-address 192.168.0.123;
> > am> }
> >
> > Good idea!
> >
> > However, 'dhcpd' is running within my LinkSys router, not on one of my
> > Debian boxen ...
> >
> > I spent quite a few minutes going through the router's option pages,
> > but couldn't see a way to specify this.
> >
> > Anyone know how to configure a LinkSys router to use the above approach?
--snip--
> I believe you would find man page of interface(5) useful for your needs.
> Especially concentrate on the mapping script
>
> Quoting the man page:
> <<<
>Stanzas defining logical interfaces start with a line consisting of the
>word "iface" followed by the name of the logical interface. In simple
>configurations without mapping stanzas this name should simply be the
>name of the physical interface to which it is to be applied. (The
>default mapping script is, in effect, the echo command.) The interface
>name is followed by the name of the address family that the interface
>uses. This will be "inet" for TCP/IP networking, but there is also
>some support for IPX networking ("ipx"), and IPv6 networking ("inet6").
>Following that is the name of the method used to configure the inter-
>face.
> >>>
>
> You could set inside the mapping script a "static" IP but let dhcp
> configure the rest.
> See also /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for
> "confirmed" mapping examples.
While it would be possible to write a custom ifupdown script to run
after DHCP supplies you with any necessary info, it would be far from
the ideal solution.
Specifying a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces with the dhcp option
set would also not work as the dhcp option would cause any static IP's
listed to just be ignored.
The "correct" way to do this is to use a static lease. That's the reason
that static leases exist in the DHCP spec in the first place.
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Re: DHCP with Static Addresses
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 11:58 -0500, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > >> However, what I'd like to do somehow is make my RFC1819 addresses > >> remain the same at home > > hs> The big question is: why do you actually care for the address? > hs> There are only rare cases where this is actually needed for a client. > > Two needs come to mind: > > o ssh-ing to one of the machines ... how do I know its address? > > o printing to one of the machines running CUPS ... again, I must > specify the addr of the print server machine > > If you can suggest a way to do these things, I'll be glad to use your > approach rather than having "fixed" addresses ... > > > Thanks for your comments! Actually, in both of these cases I would suggest just running a local DNS server and enabling dynamic DNS updates. I actually use a combination of dynamic DNS and static DHCP leases at home. I have static DHCP pointing to DNS entries. So I can change my DHCP lease address by changing just the DNS entry. The only thing that DNS names don't work for sometimes is iptables, so if you're doing a lot of machine specific filtering and forwarding in iptables, it's still useful to have static leases defined. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: exim4 and SSH tunneling
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 21:19 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: > Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You could just use an SSH tunnel FROM port 25 on localhost TO port 25 > > on the smarthost. For example: > > > > ssh -L25:localhost:25 -N your.smarthost.org > > > > That way anything that goes out on port 25 on your local system will > > come in on port 25 of the remote system. So exim will still answer it > > as a default SMTP connection. > > Excellent, though I assume you meant -L25:my.smarthost.org:25 there. As long as exim is listening on localhost as well as the public interface using localhost would still work. The specified in the L argument is resolved from the side you are connecting TO. So localhost would resolve to 127.0.0.1 on the same machine that has the my.smarthost.org address. > For the benefit of googlers, here's the solution I arrived at. > > I created a user called smtp-tunnel on the smarthost, and gave root on > the client machines rights to log into that machine with a key. Then I > run > > sudo autossh -f -N -L 25:nuala.thaning.se:25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > After that, I just 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' to have it use > nuala.thaning.se as a smarthost. > > Lots of thanks for the hint. Glad to help. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Request to remove Information
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 11:43 -0800, C. Chad Wallace wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: --snip-- > > Bad news. "Domesticated" turkeys have been specifically bred to > > have huge breast muscles. > > WTF? How does selective breeding compare to hormones and antibiotics? > Breeding is simply guiding a species along a specific natural path... > Hormones are a load of who knows what being injected into our food. No > similarity here. > > On the other hand, I'm sure turkeys, chickens and all the rest are being > injected full of similar nasties... so... *shrug* Buy organic. > > Sorry... very latecomer to the thread... just had to correct a glaring error > in logic. Selective breeding has the potential to be just as bad as hormone injections. Breeders have been known to inbreed animals in an attempt to guarantee a certain desirable trait. But inbreeding can cause lots of nasty things including genetic mutations. So a few years down the road those inbred "organic" turkeys can be just as bad as hormone-injected ones. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: exim4 and SSH tunneling
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 20:03 +0100, Björn Lindström wrote: > Does anyone have a recipe for setting up an SSH tunnel to a smarthost > with exim4 on Debian. > > Either I'm for a translation of this to exim4: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/10/msg04292.html > > I could also go with a variant of what I'm temporarily using now. I've > set up an SSH tunnel to the MTA on the smarthost on port 2525. However, > I can't seem to use localhost:2525 as the smarthost in exim4-config. > > So, does anyone have a suggestion for applying either of these > approaches to an Exim configuration (split into small files) generated > by exim4-config? You could just use an SSH tunnel FROM port 25 on localhost TO port 25 on the smarthost. For example: ssh -L25:localhost:25 -N your.smarthost.org That way anything that goes out on port 25 on your local system will come in on port 25 of the remote system. So exim will still answer it as a default SMTP connection. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [root user] How to disable root account?
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 11:24 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 04:34:12PM +0100, belbo wrote: > >> > >>I've seen Ubuntu linux, and I've noticed the disabled root account. I like > >>this > >>solution, how can I disable root account on my etch debian? > >> > > > > sudo passwd -l root > > > > I am not sure if that will actually do it, but it seems logical. > > I haven't tried this (nor would I want to) but it does not sound like a > good idea to me. First, man passwd says that the -l option is for > locking user accounts, it may not work on root. Secondly, if you do > lock out root, how whould you administer the system? Would sudo still > allow you root access? I don't know and I would not want to try it on > MY system. Using -l is perfectly safe. This is actually the same thing that Ubuntu does to disable the root account. Since you can't really "disable" root, you're just changing the password to something that can't be matched by a password. (Essentially an invalid hash.) So as long as you're not using password-based authentication (which is the case with sudo), you're fine. Obviously, make sure you use sudo to do the change in the first place as Roberto suggested just to make sure that your sudo does, in fact, work right. If you do it while logged in as root and then log out, and if your sudo ISN'T set up right, you'll be locked out of your system. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: DHCP with Static Addresses
On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 13:29 -0500, Kenneth Jacker wrote:
> [ sarge ]
>
> Looking in interfaces(5), it doesn't appear that I can include an
> "address" line (where I could specify a desired address) within
> /etc/network/interfaces for a 'dhcp'-configured interface.
>
> However, what I'd like to do somehow is make my RFC1819 addresses
> remain the same at home, but still use DHCP for DNS, etc. Depending
> on what I boot when, the addresses all change thus messing up firewall
> settings and other "stuff".
>
> Maybe I must just go with "iface ... static" instead of "iface ... dhcp"?
>
> What would people suggest for this?
If you're using DHCP and you want to have "static" IPs for your devices
what you need to do is assign a static lease on the DHCP server.
Assuming you're using dhcpd you'll want something similar to this in
your dhcpd.conf:
host yourhostname {
hardware ethernet 00:11:22:AA:BB:CC;
fixed-address 192.168.0.123;
}
If you're also running your own DNS server you can actually specify the
fixed-address line using a DNS name.
If you're not using dhcpd, then you'll need to look for some reference
to assigning a static lease and go from there. Hope that helps.
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Re: .bash_history
On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 23:45 +, Oliver Lupton wrote: > On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:17:59 + > Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I rely on .bash_history alot to remind me what command syntax to use - I > > don't scroll back thro the history with the up button, I just grep the > > .bash_history file for the command I want to run. > > > > This used to work until recently when I found that the .bash_history had > > been transformed into a data file, instead of the ASCII text that I was > > used to. > > > > I don't know what caused this. But I deleted the file and carried on. > > For a while the .bash_history file returned as ASCII text, but now it's > > happened again. > > > > What am I doing wrong? --snip-- > Try using the 'history' command instead, grep it by piping it: > > history | grep mycommand Or save yourself some typing and just use Ctrl-R. If the first result isn't the one you're looking for just push Ctrl-R again for each additional match. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Request to remove Information
Steve Lamb wrote: Not to mention that people for some reason think that the groupthink et al. for corporations are bad because it is "for profit" and yet groupthink for "the community" is good because it isn't. Groupthink is bad regardless of circumstances. Whether a bad decision is made by a board of directors, a local government, or the federal government (we've had a fair bit of those lately), it is still a bad decision. There was a reply in here somewhere that I never got, only quoted, where someone attributed my name to the "cowboy mentality" of "give me 40 acres, a mule, a shotgun and I'll take care of myself". They went on to say that because of the large urban populations we're more interconnected than I supposedly seem to think; that the Europeans have figured this out and is why their laws are more "friendly to communities". What they failed to realize that pretty much any time action is taken "for the good of the community" it denies that the community is made up of individuals. It is flat-out anti-individual. How something can be friendly to a group of individuals while being hostile to any individual in that group is beyond me. I'm really not sure what you mean here. Perhaps an example of a law that is meant to be friendly to the community but is unfriendly to an individiual would be in order? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request to remove Information
On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 13:48 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: --snip-- > Did Steve ever mention "rational"? I don't think so. > > Steve's point is that it's still *people* doing the deeds. When > you walk into an office building, you aren't *forcefully* assimil- > ted into the Borg collective. > > It's *individuals* *choosing* to go along with Groupthing, conform- > ism, etc. While it is true that, in the end, we all have a choice, the problem with a phenomenon such as groupthink is not in the choice, but in the data used as a basis for that choice. While you and I may look at a situation and say, "That person obviously made a bad decision by throwing that bucket of gasoline onto that fire", the person facing the fire is looking at a bucket labeled "Water" that, as far as she can determine, CONTAINS water. Groupthink and other socially influenced behaviors cause us to perceive our environments differently, thereby turning perfectly rational choices into apparently irrational ones. So in that sense, when you walk into an office building you ARE forcefully assimilated into the Borg collective. And unless you are an old bald man with a penchant for Earl Grey tea and saying things like "engage", you are not likely to get out of it easily. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Request to remove Information
On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 14:33 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 12:22 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Then we're even: "religion" should work better than the people > > > who implement and practice it. > > > > Nope. Because the people who practice and implement it are required by > > its very nature to ignore reason, logic and to disbelieve anything to the > > contrary. > > Having read the Bible a lot (completely twice, and big chunks many > more times), and known *lots* of religious people, and being an > amateur history buff, I can categorically state that your "required" > assertion is not flat wrong. I'll definitely second that. Too often people confuse the sheep following quasi-religious political establishments such as the Catholic church (among others), for religious people in general. Buddhism and many other eastern religions focus very heavily on logical thought and learning. So religion does not NECESSARILY need to ignore reason and logic, it is only that many of the best-known religions tend to do this. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Request to remove Information
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 06:02 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > C Shore wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:49:03PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >>And the corporations are trying to prevent from folding. BTW, you do > >>realize that corporations are nothing more than individuals just like you. > > > That's a load of crap perpetuated by lawyers. A coporation is not > > person in any reasonable definition of the word. > > That's not what I said. I said that corporations are nothing more than > individuals just like you. Note the plural. What makes up a corporation. > Uhm, individual human beings. When people say "Corporations do this" and > "Corporations do that" they are demonizing an entity which is, at the very > core, made up of and run by people just like them. To question why certain > decisions are made by "corporations" while ignoring that people make the same > decisions, is to show a monumental amount of ignorance. To assume that what a group decides is equivalent to the decisions that would be made by any rational, individual member of said group, is to show a monumental amount of ignorance. (If I may borrow a phrase from Steve here.) Groupthink[1] is a very powerful force in human behavior. Many extremely bad decisions have been made through the years because of it and its sister stupidities: herd behavior[2], mob mentality[3], conformism[4], et al[5]. And many of those bad decisions have been brought to light only because of the willingness of rational INDIVIDUALS to identify those decisions as stupid and speak out or act out against them. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behaviour [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mob_mentality [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformism [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink#See_also -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Looking for a one-time "change this password" script for login
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:28:22 -0800 (PST) "ke6isf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Every now and again, as is prone to happening on any server, I will create
>a new account for users, and set a generic password for them, and thusly
>instruct them on how to change it - ssh in, 'passwd', use the password I
>just issued them, and have them come up with a better password than the
>generic thing I just issued them. Problem is, though, that most of my
>users are a little intimidated by the environment.
>
>So that said, what I'm looking for is a simple script that, on creation of
>an account, this script will wait for the new (l)user to log in via ssh,
>welcome them, give them instructions on what precisely to do ("Change your
>password now!"), ask for other miscellaneous options, and never come up
>again, favoring the typical motd and whatever shell they want.
>
>Is there a package I should look for, or is there a different (or
>otherwise fairly standard) way I should go about doing this?
While this would be a bit of a dirty hack, I would personally just write a
small script to check for the existance of a flag file (say ".pwd-changed")
and if it doesn't exist, run passwd. Then just add this to the user's
.profile and you're done. You could actually add this to skel to have it in
there automatically whenever you create a new user.
Definitely not an ideal solution, but it gets the job done.
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Re: Imap
On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 19:08 +0100, Roy wrote: --snip-- > > > (Sarge) Server from Outlook Express the following message appears (Your > > > Imap Server wishes to alet you to the following: Fatal error Maildir No > > > such file or directory). The imap server is running and postfix is > > > working fine. > > > > > > Good someone explain what this means? > > > > It means that the IMAP server expects mail in a Maildir and there isn't > one. > > In my postfix config file I have home_mailbox = Maildir/ Just because it's in your postfix config doesn't necessarily mean that the directory is actually there. Go into your home directory and verify that you do, in fact, have a Maildir directory there. IIRC, courier does not create Maildirs for users by default. You have to do it manually. So check to make sure that you do, in fact, have a Maildir and if not, make one using maildirmake. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: quake4 installation
debianista.deb wrote: ok thanks for your answers :D how can I do a chroot ? please I haven't the game totally yet ;P but then I will test inside the cds folder yes I have enough space https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id271960 There's a good howto there about setting up a chroot. Once you have it up and running just start up bash inside the chroot and re-run the installer and it should work just fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Comfortable with Debian,but 4 points...
On Sun, 2005-11-06 at 16:48 -0800, nuno romano wrote: --snip-- > -Java: I don´t know which Java Runtime Environment,SDK > is the most effective,the blackdown.org or the > Gnu classpath,gcj,or other.For example,I want to > compile and run JGR a frontend for R(the statistics > software),which needs Java2-1.5,and I think none of > the above JRE,SDKs provides Java2-1.5. > Blackdown´s provide for the PPC Java2-1.3.1. > Do you know why Debian does not ship Blackdown´s > Java? I don't believe it's actually possible to even run any version of Sun's JRE on a PPC Linux machine. Sun and Blackdown only offer versions for i386 and amd64. I know that Apple packages the JRE with OS X, but that's still at 1.4.2 AFAIK. So, unfortunately, it looks like you're going to be out of luck on that front. > -Macromedia´s Shockwave Flash Player: The possible > solutions,none seems effective for the PPC.I can´t > see Flash content in Mozilla.Do you know of a > method,program to do that effectively?Advice > appreciated. I don't think it's possible to run Macromedia's player on a PPC Linux machine, unfortunately. There are a few free flash players available in Debian, but they aren't really usable for most modern sites. (I'm in the same boat as I have an AMD64 system and refuse to run a 32-bit browser.) > -Security Enhanced Linux: Is the next release of > Debian(Sid,I think) scheduled to ship a standard > kernel which implements SEL as a LSM? The next release is actually Etch. Sid is permanently the unstable branch. (As the releases are named after Toy story characters, Sid was the extremely unstable child.) I'm not sure about what the current status of security support is in the newest kernel, but you can easily upgrade your kernel without upgrading the rest of the system. 2.6.8 is currently available for Debian stable (Sarge) on PPC. > -An encrypted partition: The methods available > dm-crypt,loop-AES,are they effective? While I haven't used either myself, I know that there are a fair number of people using dm-crypt already. The security on it currently isn't great, but it's better than a naked filesystem. If you're going to be holding top-secret government documents and need to have your keyboard handcuffed to your wrist, it's probably not good enough. :) But for day to day use with some additional security it should be good. And as dm-crypt is easily extensible, if someone writes an excellent encryption plugin for it you will have the benefit of that update. Sorry that I couldn't give you some better news, but I hope that the information helps a little bit at least. Oh, and welcome to Debian! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Using USB and Visor module
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 17:31 +0100, Patrick Mulder wrote: > Dear experts, > > I am a bit stuck with connecting the Palm TX via the > USB to my Debian system. I upgraded to the 2.6.13.4 > Kernel and using an ASUS A7N8X-X motherboard. I am > quite sure that the USB port is recognized correctly > (excerpt from /proc/bus/usb/devices ) --snip-- > But somehow the dplsh and pilot-xfer still do not work > properly: > > # pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB1 -l > >Listening to port: /dev/ttyUSB1 > >Please press the HotSync button now... connected! > > >Error read system info on /dev/ttyUSB1 > > The latest output of /var/log/messages is: --snip-- > Has anyone ideas or experience on getting more > information of the statuse of communication to USB and > the Visor module ? What are interestings files and > versions of source code to look at ? Or wath > configuration can be tried as well ? (sorry if this is a duplicate. The original doesn't seem to have made it to the list.) I've spent a lot of time in the last couple of months wrestling with all things Pilot related on my system. The one thing that actually works pretty well in the whole setup is the visor module. Most of the problems end up being caused by the software you use to sync. While I'm not sure about the TX, I can tell you that with my T5, the default use of pilot-xfer for me doesn't work. The T5 connects to the system as soon as you plug it in. After starting a hotsync, it actually disconnects and then immediately re-connects. In this case, what you need to do with pilot-xfer is: 1) plug in the Palm and let it settle for a second or two 2) start the hotsync ON THE PALM 3) run pilot-xfer on your machine Using this method, I can always get the connection to succeed. There are plenty of other problems to be encountered. If you happen to decide to use gnome-pilot you will be largely on your own as the maintainer is almost completely unresponsive. Filed bugs are an average of 2 years old, and the only bugs that have been closed recently have either been fixed by an NMU or by a different package which gnome-pilot uses being fixed by the maintainer for that package. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Asterisk Problems
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 10:07 +0200, John Oxley wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get asterisk running on a Debian sarge box with a Zaptel > card (:00:09.0 Network controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX > Modem/ISDN interface) in it. > > I have installed the zaptel drivers and they load fine. My problem is > with configuring asterisk. I have had a look at AMP > (http://amp.coalescentsystems.ca/) but I cannot get that working with > the asterisk that comes with Debian. > > Can anyone point me in the direction of a good web based frontend to > asterisk, that's also free? Honestly, I haven't found one yet. Your best bet is to just learn to handle the config files directly. The wiki pages are a great reference and have pretty much every config option spelled out in great detail. It really only takes a couple of days to get familiar with the configs, and after you do you'll be able to do some really great stuff with the system. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Using the latest Eclipse on Debian
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 10:49 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > This if for the few people using Java on Debian. > > I would like to run the latest stable version of Eclipse (3.0.1) on my > Debian system. I have installed the latest JDK from Sun, using the > java-package utlity. > > However, when I install Eclipse, I can't create a Java project, or > access any of the Java tools. I can't even find the "Java" entry in > the Preferences dialog. > > Any ideas? > > Do I need to configure a setting in Eclipse to get it to recognize my > JDK, or do I need to set up a CLASSPATH for Eclipse in my Debian > system? There was actually a post about this just a few days ago. You most likely downloaded the wrong eclipse package. You want to get the eclipse SDK. I'm running 3.1RC1 at the moment, and it comes in at 92 MB. If you got something smaller then you just got the eclipse environment without the associated SDK bits (like java, etc). -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
sharing i386 and amd64 /etc and /home
I've got my disk partitioned so that /home, /etc, /usr, /tmp, and /boot are on separate partitions. I'd like to install the amd64 port so I can finally make use of the full performance of my processor. But, I'd really like to transfer over all of my system settings to make the transition as seamless as possible. So I'd basically like to install amd64 into a new /usr partition and reuse all the others. Is this possible? I'm relatively certain that no native packages would out arch-specific binaries anywhere in /home or /etc, so it seems that it should be pretty safe. I just want to make sure that I don't hose my i386 setup before I'm fully switched over. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: A little something quirky....
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 12:59 -0700, ke6isf wrote: > I just realized that every time I do an apt-get update - and I mean EVERY > time - the repository over on purdue.edu always gets the Packages and > Release data files. Most recent test was today, and I did two updates in > less than five minutes. (I had added contrib and non-free to a handful of > mirrors in the file.) > > Is this a bug, or a feature? Not sure exactly what you mean here. If you mean that every time you do an apt-get update it contacts purdue.edu to check for the Packages and Release files, then this is correct (assuming that purdue.edu is the mirror you have set up in /etc/apt/sources.list). If you mean something else then I'm not sure what you mean. If that is the case post the output you're getting and then point out what part you're asking about. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: default info browser
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:42 -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 12:39 -0500, Sebastian Luque wrote: > > Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Even if I already had it running however, clicking is much too slow for > > > me. M-x info, m, works, but it's too many steps. Not to > > > mention that I have to switch to the window first. What I would LIKE to > > > be able to do is "info pagename" from the command line and have it open > > > it up in emacs' info browser. > > > > If that's the case, why do you want to start Emacs just to read 'info'? > > What's wrong with your shell's 'info'? > > I don't like the default info browser. The navigation bar on top scrolls > off the screen, and I'm limited to my console font and 24 rows of text. > (And no text highlighting, etc.) I have my emacs set up with a very good > font and since it's in X I can fit a good 40-80 lines on a screen at a > time depending on window size. (I know I can resize my terminal window > beyond 24 lines of course, but I prefer to keep my terminal windows at > 24x80 since I'm so used to standard text consoles.) (NOTE: Off-list reply from Sebastian to my accidental off-list post, being forwarded on his behalf for the sake of the archives.) So why don't you use Emacs' shell mode? With M-x shell (or eshell or term, whichever you prefer) you have your command line, and with C-h i you have your info. But if you insist in starting Emacs from another console, perhaps writing your own function in your shell startup file (e.g. ~/.bashrc) that uses something like 'emacs -nw -f info' taking an argument for the lisp 'info' function (read 'man emacs' and 'C-h f info' inside Emacs) is the way to go. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: default info browser
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 12:39 -0500, Sebastian Luque wrote: > Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > > Even if I already had it running however, clicking is much too slow for > > me. M-x info, m, works, but it's too many steps. Not to > > mention that I have to switch to the window first. What I would LIKE to > > be able to do is "info pagename" from the command line and have it open > > it up in emacs' info browser. > > If that's the case, why do you want to start Emacs just to read 'info'? > What's wrong with your shell's 'info'? I don't like the default info browser. The navigation bar on top scrolls off the screen, and I'm limited to my console font and 24 rows of text. (And no text highlighting, etc.) I have my emacs set up with a very good font and since it's in X I can fit a good 40-80 lines on a screen at a time depending on window size. (I know I can resize my terminal window beyond 24 lines of course, but I prefer to keep my terminal windows at 24x80 since I'm so used to standard text consoles.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: default info browser
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 15:59 +, s. keeling wrote: > Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > So after 4 years of stubbornly refusing to accept info pages and > > sticking to plain old 'man' I've decided that it's time to embrace info > > and give it a shot for a while. However, I don't much care for the > > text-mode info browser that's used by default. What I'd like to do is > > force emacs to be my info browser, so that 'info foo', for example, will > > start up emacs, load up info, and open the 'foo' info page. Any ideas? > > You mean like "Help --> Manuals --> Browse Manuals with info"? As > any normal emacs user knows, emacs is always already running, so you > don't need the "start up emacs" bit. Just click on Help. > > pinfo is a nice alternative to info, btw. Sadly, I have not yet embraced emacs as the One True OS. I only really use it for coding, editing some of the more cumbersome config files (httpd.conf comes to mind), and, of course, mpuz. (Love that game.) Even if I already had it running however, clicking is much too slow for me. M-x info, m, works, but it's too many steps. Not to mention that I have to switch to the window first. What I would LIKE to be able to do is "info pagename" from the command line and have it open it up in emacs' info browser. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
default info browser
So after 4 years of stubbornly refusing to accept info pages and sticking to plain old 'man' I've decided that it's time to embrace info and give it a shot for a while. However, I don't much care for the text-mode info browser that's used by default. What I'd like to do is force emacs to be my info browser, so that 'info foo', for example, will start up emacs, load up info, and open the 'foo' info page. Any ideas? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: .torrent clients sugestions
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 18:14 -0700, Nathaniel Homier wrote: > Hi, I used to use Azureus on Windows and liked it allot. Of course I > use Debian now and would like to set up a .torrent client. However I no > longer have any desire to use Java hence Azureus is out of the question. > Does anybody know of an replacement that is as good as Azureus. I > have some tv shows that start their season soon so I would like > suggestions on a client. Honestly, if you're looking for a program with the functionality of Azureus, you won't find it. There are some good 'simple' bit torrent clients out there (bittornado) but Azureus has, by far, the most functionality of any client I've used. If you don't want to use Java in linux because of the hassle of setting it up, it's gotten MUCH easier over the last couple of years. If you're avoiding Java because it's not free, then I fully understand and support your decision. Just be aware that one of the consequences is giving up great apps like Azureus. (Though there is some hope. Azureus uses SWT for the GUI which does NOT require a Sun JVM. However, I believe that some of the other internal code DOES require a Sun JVM. But at some point in the, hopefully, not too distant future, someone may make a fully-free implementation of Azureus that will work with one/all of the FOSS Java alternatives.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Evolution / Novell
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 15:43 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The new stable release of Sarge comes with Evolution. I was wondering > what the difference was between The "Sarge" Evolution and "Novell's" > Evolution. Novell owns Evolution, right? What is the difference between > the two? Does Novell's version have more, up to date, and better > features? Is Novell offering their version for free? Somebody set me > straight... =) Novell owns the rights to Evolution now. It's still basically the same program it's always been. I don't remember exactly which version was the first real "Novell" version, but I think that most (if not all) of the 2.x versions have been Novell. One of the REALLY nice things that Novell did when they got the rights to everything was to GPL the Exchange plugin. With that all of the major components of Evolution are now fully free. It was thanks to that move that I was able to finally ditch my Windows box at work altogether (only used it for Outlook anyway) and have a pure Debian desktop at work. Hope that clears things up. Just holler if you have any more questions. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Is 'rename' missing or is it just me?
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 21:49 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: --snip-- > Of course, the difference between it and the lame MS-DOS version is that > you use a perl-compatible regexp to specify the rename scheme. Thus, if > you got and take 100 pictures with your digital camera and want to > change the default names (mine does something like DSC.JPG, where > the is one-up numbered), you specify: > > rename 's/DSC/Birthday2005-/' *.JPG > > It is really much nicer than manually renaming hundreds of files, which > I recall doing when I was an unfortunate Windows user. Have you tried mmv at all? I've been using it for quite a while and I've found it invaluable. While the pattern matching isn't quite up to par with the power of a Perl regexp it's got quite a few options which make life a LOT easier. It can match files n-levels deep in a directory tree, arbitrarily move parts of a file-name around (e.g. rename foo-bar.jpg to bar-foo.jpg), and my favorite feature, uppercase or lowercase individual parts of a file-name. Quite a nice little tool. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Top posting
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 13:01 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: --snip-- > No. We are close minded people, like those in the 1950s or before who never ^^ If I see one more post talking about "near-minded" people I'm going to go even more insane. :) That one ranks up there with 'loosing my keys' and having a 'lose bolt'. That little extra 'd' can't be that hard to type, can it? Not picking on Hal here, just the most recent example. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Top posting
ys express what my stance on a position is, but I try to show it in an extreme enough manner to get a chuckle out of my audience. If you take the time to chuckle at what I've said, you're less likely to immediately become angry at it and disregard everything in the message. See above point about taking an extreme point too far. --snip-- > I think that is an important point (so important, I left all those paragraphs > intact!). Notice that I am not arguing for top posting, but arguing to not > ban it or ostracize those who use it. I've seen many people that top post > and just add on to what was there before, so after about 5 replies, the > entire thread is still in the most recent post. That may frustrate dial-up > users, but it keeps the thread intact. (See initial point about group rules.) I definitely agree that people who choose to top-post should not be banned or ostracized. I do feel that if a top-poster comes to d-u and is told nicely (as is usually the case around here actually) to not top post, they should respect that and not do it. If they don't respect the group's wishes in that regard then they are not entitled to receiving support from the group either. Coincidentally, one thing that I've noticed is that the majority of top-posters (uh oh, generalization coming up) tend to be top-posters out of ignorance, not preference. (Much like most Internet Explorer/Outlook Express users are IE/OE users out of ignorance of better alternatives.) In this context, I would very much argue that Microsoft is the greatest peddler of ignorance the world has ever seen. One of the major problems with this ignorance comes when considering the fact that there are quite a few people in the world who can't handle being told that they didn't do something right which leads to them immediately getting defensive. These people are the ones who pose the greatest problems. They top-post because they don't know any better (not because they evaluated both alternatives and chose the one which works better with the way they think), and then they get offended when someone attempts to point out that their style of posting is not considered appropriate in that particular setting. It is this attitude, in my opinion, which tends to undermine top-posting as a general practice. --snip-- > sometimes by bottom posting. That's why I've taken the stand I have. Many > times a top-posting post can be better at keeping things in context and > presenting needed info better than other formats. I've found that most of > the time when I read someone's top-posting comments, it's clear what they are > replying to, and if not, I can check below. It's like a book with footnotes. > > If a point isn't clear and footnoted, check on what it says. If it is clear > and you don't need explanation, skip the footnotes. I usually deal with emails (discussion group and otherwise) in 'bursts'. I don't keep up with it on an hourly basis, but I get caught up with it every couple of days or so. If a discussion doesn't start and end within the time-frame of when I get caught up with mails, it becomes very difficult for me to keep track of who's saying what with regards to what without proper context. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Top posting
unicating with you. (If, in fact, I give a damn about getting my message across.) Wow... that stretched out much longer than I expected... we now return you to your regularly scheduled debate. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Where did the unstable branch of the debian archives (ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US/) go?
On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 04:38 -0700, Ibrahim Mubarak wrote: --snip-- > For a few days now, I noticed that the non-US packages on the mirrors I > use for apt/aptitude/synaptic are unreachable. I use > ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org for everything. I just checked the site itself, > and there is no unstable folder in > ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists . I also tried > ftp2.fr.debian.org, but got the same results. I randomly checked a > german morror, and the unstable branch is there. non-US has been removed as of the Sarge release. The United States relaxed the legal restrictions that made non-US necessary a few years ago, so all of the packages from non-US have been moved into the main archive. Someone on one of the lists I'm on posted a link about this recently but I can't seem to find it at the moment. If anyone else has the link handy it would be appreciated. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Programming Backwards (was Re: Top posting (a different point of view))
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 23:25 -0400, Hubert Chan wrote: --snip-- > I program randomly. Err. That's random as opposed to sequentially; not > as in I bang random keys on my keyboard and hope for the best. ;-) /me envisions an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters sitting in a building in Redmond with an M$ logo on the front... :) > I write one function, then jump to another function, then decide to > change something in the first function, start a third function, ... I do the same thing, but most of my coding nowadays is OO, so that's kind of the norm. At least I think it is... maybe it's not and I'm a crazy backwards coder too... hmm... -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Top posting (a different point of view)
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 17:17 -0400, Joe Potter wrote: --snip-- > You want to see the context. You want to see the flow of the discussion > --- like we did years ago before you had to cave due to all the suites > who can do no better. Gates is a cancer, and the after life will be warm > in his case if there is justice. Amen to that! I feel like contributing to chemotherapy research right now! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Top posting
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:06 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: --snip-- > PS Have you noticed that there aren't many people who are top posting > zealots? I wonder why. Maybe tops posters are just more relaxed and > chilled out people. :o) I would argue that top-posters fall into the same category as most users of proprietary software. They are too lazy expend a bit of effort to benefit their fellow man. Bottom-posting makes reading easier for those who haven't followed an entire thread. Much in the same way that users of proprietary software are too lazy to find, support, or write a free alternative that would benefit all of mankind. As a side note, since I got on the subject of users of proprietary software, I've noticed that there's an interesting distinction between people who use free (As in speech) software and people who use proprietary software. People who use proprietary software have a view of the world which stresses "Me! Me! Me!". People who use free software generally view the world in terms of "We!". So a top-poster is concerned about him or herself not doing extra work. A bottom-poster is concerned with improving the quality of reading for others. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Safe Type (was Re: DVORAK)
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:43 -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: --snip-- > The number pad is cumbersome. I'm an emacs guy, so I rarely use the > arrow keys anyway, but when I have to use them, it's a PITA. However, > that was easily solved for me by buying a USB number pad; it works fine > with X, and it even works fine in Windows XP running inside VMWare. I'm enlightened as well :), so I don't use the arrow keys much, but there are more and more things which are breaking emacs keybindings nowadays. The big thing for me is the number pad. I do a lot of number crunching and doing the top row just won't cut it for me. I'm also hesitant to get a separate keypad because I've used them before for my laptop and just doesn't feel right. When I have to switch 'feel' between typing and doing numbers I don't adjust very well. But in looking at their site more I saw that they do have a guarantee on the keyboards, so I'll probably buy one and try it and see if the keypad issue is one I can live with or not. With that once exception, I'm very impressed with the keyboard. Now I just have to try it and see how it feels. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
OT: Safe Type (was Re: DVORAK)
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:43 -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: --snip-- > Dunno. I use a Safeytpe; any keyboard that requires me to rotate my hands > even semi-flat exacerbates the tendinitis to the point where I can't type > after an hour or two. With a Safetype, I can type all day, but you pretty > much have to be a touch typist since you can't see the keys. However, I > doubt that dvorak/qwerty makes much of a difference. Wow. That's the first time I heard of that keyboard. Just looked it up and it looks very... interesting... I've been using a natural keyboard exclusively for about 7 years now and I find it much more comfortable than a standard flat keyboard. But I'm always open for something that's more comfortable. How does the safe type feel for you? Just looking at it, it certainly looks strange with the vertical layout, but I could certainly see where it could be comfortable. And by the looks of it, the number pad is BETWEEN the two upright sections? That seems rather cumbersome. Any input appreciated. (My credit card started itching as soon as I saw the keyboard. :) ) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ion2 + x2vnc + multiple workspaces = possible?
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 22:17 -0500, Stefhen Hovland wrote: --snip-- > This works great with metacity, but I would like to switch to ion. But > when I go to create a second workspace with "alt-f9", and I switch to > that second workspace, I can no longer move my mouse off of the side > of the screen to my windows box when I am in that second workspace. I > have to switch back to the first workspace where I started the x2vnc > session to get back to my windows box again. I do not know if these > workspaces are totally independent of one another and I cannot share > the x2vnc programs forwarding capability, or if there is just a > configuration variable I need to change that I am not aware about. I > do not know if this is the same thing as switching between my 4 > virtual terminals in my gnome session or not, when I create another > workspace, because I can use one x2vnc session over all 4 virtual > terminals in metacity, but not on different workspaces in ion. This is > what I am trying to figure out how to fix. > Hope this helps. Ok, so to simplify the question a bit, you're wanting mouse-scrolling between workspaces in Ion, correct? (i.e. move the mouse to the edge of a workspace and have it scroll to another one) If that's the case, I don't THINK that Ion supports mouse scrolling between workspaces. Just as a wild guess you may want to try the -xinerama option, but I have no idea if it will actually do anything for you. Hopefully at least the clarification will help you get some better answers. (Assuming, of course, that my clarification is correct. :) ) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: lilo to grub conversion
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 15:36 +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > Hi all, > > I am running a testing machine that is currently using lilo for it's > boot loader. I would like to switch this to grub but I am a little > confused about how to go ahead and do this. > > I have installed the grub package but it doesn't seem to have set itself > up as other packages do. There is not /boot/grub folder for instance and > it didn't tell me it was writing itself to the boot block. This leads me > to believe that if I reboot I will still be using lilo - I am a little > scared about rebooting to find though :o) > > Can someone give me a couple of pointers about what to do next. I have > grabbed the grub-doc and while it's great there's so much of it that's > also half the problem. There are some pretty easy to follow directions to be found in /usr/share/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz You'll need to run a few commands as root, double-check your menu.lst, and you'll be all set to go. It's actually a lot easier than most people expect. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: still can't write some slovak characters in ordinary text editors
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 13:27 +0200, Michal Simovic wrote: > > i still can't write some slovak characters in ordinary text editors. > got locales, kde internalisation installed and set. > here's the listing of the current state on my system: --snip-- For starters, how are you trying to type them? Are you setting your keyboard layout to a Slovak keyboard, or are you trying to do it using a modifier key? (e.g. "Super + S + <" for Š). Also, are you sure that you're using UTF fontsets? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: grub vs lilo
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 00:22 -0500, Jon Roed wrote: > I am currently running Debian and i am trying to change my boot loader. I > have GRUB right now, but i want to switch to LILO. I uninstalled GRUB with > KPackage and installed LILO. I ran liloconfig and everything seems to be set > up properly. But somehow when i reboot i still get GRUB. I checked my > installed packages and it says GRUB is not installed. Any ideas where and > how GRUB could be hiding in my system and why LILO didn't take over as the > Master Boot Loader when it was installed ? Grub is uninstalled, but it is still written to your MBR. You'll need to run 'lilo' as root (no options necessary) to get it to re-write itself to the MBR and overwrite Grub. Just out of curiosity, why are you switching FROM grub TO lilo? Most people (myself included) do just the opposite. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: The dumb things we do to ourselves.
On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 10:01 +0100, Adam Funk wrote: > Adam Funk wrote: > > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > >> Hopefully, someone gets a chuckle out of this. > > > > My recent prize-winner was this > > # ifdown -a > > over an ssh connection. Fortunately the computer I was^H^H had been > > logged into was in the same room as the one I was typing on. > > If I had typed > # ifdown -a ; ifup -a > would I have been able to ssh back in a moment later? If not, would > # ifdown -a ; ifup -a ; /etc/init.d/ssh restart > have done it? Just an 'ifdown -a; ifup -a' would have let you back in. I have actually managed to MAINTAIN a connection that way before. I'm not exactly sure how that happened but I'd imagine that the length of time that it took for the connection to get re-established was less than the ssh timeout period. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: tar packet
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 17:46 +0200, Roger Martinez wrote: > After the tar extract command > tar xvzf mozilla-1.7.8.fr-FR.linux-i686-gtk2+xft.tar.gz > or gzip -cd mozilla-1.7.8.fr-FR.linux-i686-gtk2+xft.tar.gz | tar xvf - > command > it's the same , owner change > > > ls -l give me that : mozilla repertory and all the follow with owner roger : > drwxr-xr-x 11 roger users 4096 May 12 12:04 mozilla > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14643030 May 16 23:31 > mozilla-1.7.8.fr-FR.linux-i686-gtk2+xft.tar.gz It sounds like you're running the tar command as yourself. If you run it as yourself you do not have permissions to set the ownership on a file to root. Try running the tar command as root and see if that helps. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: friendly scp (help)
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 17:28 +0200, Alberto Bert wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a "file manager" like mc, but for scp connections. > Cause, I often transfere several directories and I have to copy each of > them with a different command and passwd... :-( > > Do you know any nice solution? If you already run Nautilus, it has built-in support for SCP connections. Just navigate to "ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/directory". If you don't already have Nautilus installed it's probably overkill to install it just for this though. (and as it's not exactly light-weight, don't expect to run it on a 233 MHz machine) But I think a default Gnome install pretty much has to have Nautilus anyway, so assuming you're a Gnome user you should be all set to go. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT] Debian is ugly -- package for beautification?
On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 10:42 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2005-05-14, Ron Johnson penned: > > > > On Sat, 2005-05-14 at 09:55 -0400, Bob Freemer wrote: > > > >> high-resolution console bootup, etc. I agree these should not be > >> part of a default install, but is there a simple meta-package or > >> something that could customize the system scripts to make things a > >> bit "prettier?" > > > > Prettier??? Is that what's keeping your SO from using Linux? > > > > Stereotype much? You'll have to pardon me while I play devil's advocate here :), but the gender of the significant other wasn't specified (though it obviously may have been implied). And, since it wasn't, in-fact, specified, then your response could be construed as a stereotype of the gender of a significant other. But if I wasn't just playing devil's advocate here, I'd agree with your initial statement. :) p.s. In all fairness to Ron, he's never held back from speaking his mind on this list which, in my case at least, is why I value him so much as a member of the community. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Is 64MB enough?
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 09:50 -0400, J. Van Lierde wrote: --snip-- > I don't think you'll find Java development on such a system to be very > rewarding. I'll definitely second that. And wrt to the OP's initial question, a machine with 64MB of RAM is not going to run X very well, especially with any newer set of interface-type apps. > I have sarge running on a 733Mhz P3 (upgraded from 450MHz) with 384MB of > RAM. At 450MHz, I found the Netbeans IDE (and the system overall) to be > decidedly creaky. The 733MHz CPU perked things up in general. > > The second problem is that both Netbeans and Eclipse go to disk a lot. I > don't think it's paging (surely not with 384MB), I think these Depending on how much other stuff you have running, it could very well be paging. If I start up Eclipse and open a few different views with 4 or 5 source files open, the memory footprint gets very close if not pretty well over 256 MB. Throw in X, a wm, and all the basic system services and that 384 MB is nothing. For anyone doing serious Eclipse work I would very much recommend having at least 768 MB or RAM with 256 MB pre-allocated to Eclipse. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Eclipse: X eats up 280 MB of memory
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 10:11 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using KDE, six virtual desktops and a two-head setup with two > screens of 1280x1024 resolution. When my machine is started top > shows that X takes about 40 MB of memory. That seems normal to > me. But when I start Eclipse X eats 280 MB of memory. Is this normal? > Together with some other applications my 512 MB of RAM are full and > it uses 890 MB of Swap! > I'd rather like not to buy another 512 MB RAM just for Eclipse... Is there > a chance to reduce the memory consumption? Are others experiencing > similar effects? When the java-vm starts up (such as when you launch Eclipse) it allocates a good chunk of memory for itself. It doesn't USE it all, but it does allocate it which is why you see it showing up in top. If you use Eclipse a lot, I would recommend starting Eclipse with AT LEAST 256 MB allocated to it (using the -Xmx256M flag) for best performance. This also means that you should upgrade to a total of 768 MB of RAM or more. With how cheap RAM is nowadays though, I'd say just throw another 512 MB in there and be done with it. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: how to determine WAN IP address from behind a NAT router?
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 17:25 -0400, Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 05:19:25PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Try: > > > > $ lynx -dump checkip.dyndns.org > > I'd do > > wget -O - checkip.dyndns.org 2>/dev/null > > Same idea, but it just dumps everything to the command line > rather than invoking a browser. To quote the OP: On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:10 -0700, A.Melon wrote: --snip-- > I searched for information on this and found only solutions by > parsing the output of websites that display the HTTP REMOTE_ADDR. > But I don't want to rely on an external website. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: how to determine WAN IP address from behind a NAT router?
On Thu, 2005-05-05 at 14:10 -0700, A.Melon wrote: > I have connected a Debian box attached to a NAT router to a cable > modem, and I'd like to determine (preferably from Perl but > anything will do!) my "internet" IP address (as opposed to > 192.168...). > > I searched for information on this and found only solutions by > parsing the output of websites that display the HTTP REMOTE_ADDR. > But I don't want to rely on an external website. > > I know there must be a way to do this because Gnutella-type > programs (client) display my "outside" IP address. How do they > do it? I'd imagine that Gnutella-type programs detect it by asking the server you're connecting to for it. I don't know of a way to determine it from the actual machine being NAT-ed. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Regex expert needed
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 16:08 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
--snip--
> For instance I want the parse this string
>
> Form = 'This is a bad bad thing, but not as bad as it would be if \"x = 5\",
> so thats it',Connection=5
>
> Into the strings
>
> Form
>
> =
>
> 'This is a bad bad thing, but not as bad as it would be if \"x=5\", so thats
> it'
>
> ,
>
> Connection
>
> =
>
> 5
>
> using the php preg_split() finction. So, I first want to find a regex that
> finds the commas I have split out (bit not the common in the quoted string,
> and then for each substring put that through another version of preg_split()
> which finds the = as delimeters. Again in the quoted string, I want to
> ignore the x=5 equal sign.
Something like this should do the trick:
/('.*?')*?,('.*?')*/
If you KNOW that the commas are going to be before or after the quoted
string, then the above could be simplified a bit.
Disclaimer: The above is written from the top of my head. I don't have a
chance to test it at the moment so YMMV.
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Re: [OT] X-friendly KVM switch?
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 19:38 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > I'm looking for an X-friendly PS/2-style KVM switch. Currently, I > have a Belkin 4-port Omniview E series, and whenever I switch back to > X from another system, the mouse goes all crazy and I have to > ctrl+alt+backspace. > > Anyone have a well-behaved KVM switch? > > 4-port would be great, but I can live with 2. As long as I'm asking, > it would be great if you could tell me if > > a) you can switch systems with keystrokes instead of having to touch > the switch > > b) if the switch beeps when you switch systems I use a 4-port D-Link DKVM-4 every day at work without a problem. I use it primarily to switch between my Linux box and my (work enforced) Windows box and it works fine in both. You can switch screens by tapping Scroll Lock twice followed by either 1-4. (I think Scroll Lock x 2 + arrow key works as well, but I don't use it.) It does beep when you switch screens which is usually a good thing. Except on days when I'm working on code in linux and testing in windows, when the incessant beeping annoys my coworkers and myself. :) I'm not sure how much it costs since work provided it, but I think it's right around $100US. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: apt-get deprecated?
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 23:05 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:25:16PM -0500, Steve Block wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:11:43AM -0700, mm wrote: > > >Is there any compelling reason to use `apt-get' over `aptitude', given > > >the latter's more robust feature set (installation tracking, for > > >example)? > > > > > >I've been using aptitude exclusively for about a year for installing > > >packages, yet still see a lot of new documentation with directives to > > >install/upgrade with apt-get. > > > > There's no real need to use apt-get over aptitude. They use the same > > package lists and underlying architecture. > > I remember readding something that they each use their own database. > So that mixing the two methods was not a good idea. > > Or was that dselect? Can someone confirm or deny? I'm not sure if it IS aptitude, but I'm relatively sure that it's NOT dselect. I used to use dselect exclusively (before I saw the light and started using wajig) and it would work on any changes that were set by apt-get and/or dpkg. i.e. I could mark packages for installation in one, and then execute the operation in another without a problem. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Regex expert needed
On Sat, 2005-04-30 at 21:42 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: > I am using PHP and I am trying to parse a string into substrings delimited by > a single character. In some instances this is a ',' in others it will be '='. > > I think the php function preg_split is the one to use, but I need find the > right regular expression to match the delimeter character. Not being an > expert and seeing its just not an obvious single character (see below) it has > confused me completely. > > Unfortunately a subset of the substrings themselves may have ',' or '=' signs > in them, although each string in this subset will itself have had the > addslashes() function performed on it to escape internal quote characters and > then completely surrounded in a pair of single quote characters. > > In otherwords my regular expression does not want to match a ',' (or in the > other case a '=') if it is inside an unescaped quote. > > So can any regular expression experts out there help me define the right one > to match the criteria I have described. Some sample data would be useful. Your explanation is pretty good, but as soon as you started with "Unfortunately ...", that made it much more difficult to deal with (for me at least) without sample data. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: multiport ethernet cards
On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 10:10 +, Chris Evans wrote: > In relation to debugging my DNS lookup woes (see other posts!) I'm > going to buy a spare PCI ethernet card. Since my firewall machine is > tiny and quiet, it only has one PCI slot so I'd like to get a > multiport, ideally four port, card. Some time back people recommended > the Intel Pro multiport cards but they were out of my price range > except on Ebay (where I can now only see one two port card). I also > had a recommendation for Soekris who have 2 and 4 port cards at prices > I can pay and say they have linux support (see end of post for spec). > > Does anyone have experience of these cards with Woody or have another > recommendation? While I don't have any experience with the NICs from Soekris, I do use their net4801 boxes extensively at work. I've gotten them working with both Debian and FreeBSD flawlessly. As the net4801 has 3 ethernet ports I'd imagine they're based on either a scaled up lan1621 or a scaled down lan1641. This is, of course, pure speculation but given that Soekris generally makes very Linux-friendly hardware I'd imagine that their NICs would be no exception. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian installer
On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 16:31 +, Fredrik Lindberg wrote: > Hi! > > I installed sarge the other day and I noticed a feature that would be very > nice in the installer. When you are asked if your system clock is set to GMT > there is no obvious way of resetting the system clock if it is wrong. I > think it would be nice if there were a button there where you could adjust > system time. The only option now, if I have not missed something, is to > restart the machine and correct system time in the bios before you continnue > installation. The main issue is that all files created during install can > get the wrong date and time if you do not do this. That's a good suggestion. Have you filed a bug report to suggest it? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: names good for marketing
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 22:53 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:01:03PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: --snip-- > > Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton > > there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the > > new DDR machines long before anybody else does (though it's only > > playable if you know Japanese or have played DDR so many times you > > don't need to know what the game is saying any more). > > Hi Paul, > have you thought of trying the DDR games in debian? > apt-cache search dance > Just curious... I would very much recommend pydance to anyone who needs to kill some time. :) Be warned as if you get good at it and you don't have a dance pad hooked up to your computer, your keyboard will get quite a pounding on the old arrow keys. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: names good for marketing
On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 16:01 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: --snip-- > Not so much Korean as Mexican and Chinese here, though out in Beaverton > there's a *really* good Japanese video arcade that generally gets the > new DDR machines long before anybody else does (though it's only > playable if you know Japanese or have played DDR so many times you > don't need to know what the game is saying any more). Who hasn't?! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Way off topic] the Quran
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 12:08 +0800, Katipo wrote: --snip-- > Take the time to sit down and watch a sunset sometime, then chuck the > book away. > Regards, Amen to that! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 08:49 +0100, Pascal Bonesh wrote: --snip-- > What a wonderful world it would be if all people would just throw away > their holy books and start thinking and acting as humans. Bravo! I second that wholeheartedly! -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 14:30 -0700, Nate Duehr wrote: --snip-- > You'll find in really large cities, they run out of loop numbers 2, 4, > 6, 8 and have to change the last two digits. Chicago is an example of > this, if I remember correctly. I can't think of any roads that change the last two digits in Chicago. The primary roads to/through the city are 55, 57, 80, 88, 90, 94, 190, 290, and 294. And various concatenations of the above. (80/94 being the one that I frequent most) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Script to temporarily "open" port
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 16:39 +0100, Laurent CARON wrote: > David Baron wrote: > > >A home system with an email server, i.e. exim, need not lay "exposed" 24/7. > >Is > >there a way to write script to open a port such as SMTP/25 periodically for > >a > >certain amount of time, check for activity, wait till free and then close it. > > > >This would be a cron'ed equivalent of bringing up Guarddog or some other > >IPtables interface, enabling access, waiting a while and seeing no (or no > >more) activity, bringing it up again and disabling access. > > > > > > > > > use cron and iptables for it > > Allow new connection > wait 10/15 mins > forbid new connections but still allow established ones on port 25 Or you could just set up knockd on the box. It will be a lot safer since the port will only be opened when you request it with a particular knock sequence. With a cron job that port will end up being open to the world at particular times, regardless of who initiated the request. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Way off topic] the politics of ubuntu.org
On Tue, 2004-12-28 at 09:22 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: --snip-- > The difference is this: > > 1. Muslims who commit terrorist acts do so in *compliance* with the > teachings of Mohammed and Islam. > 2. Christians who commit terrorist acts are in direct opposition to > the Bible and the Word of God. I've read through the English text of the Quran 3 times, and while I've always heard that it's not the same as reading it in the original Arabic I would imagine that the difference in translation would not be great enough to leave out the bit about killing innocents. People will often scan through a single passage and think that it implies that it's ok to kill anyone who is a heathen. But the Quran specifically states that only those who would attack you, persecute you, or drive you from your homes are to be killed. "And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers." And I would add that the Islamic world has never done anything on the order of the Crusades... those carried out by so called God-fearing men who respect the bible. War mongers are war mongers regardless of which religion they practice and should be treated as such. p.s. Just for the record, I am not a Muslim. I'm a very happy atheist who disbelieves in God and Allah equally among all the other deities out there. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality? (OT)
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 18:30 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: --snip-- > > Walmarts tend to be located at major highway junctions in the western > > US. There are, at most a few dozen possible locations, all in Idaho > > and Oregon. > > Nailed it! Wood Village owes it's entire existence to 30, 30By, 84 and > possibly in the future, 26By. I think there are quite a few cities that owe their existence to US-30. The place where I spent most of my adolescent and teen life, Merrillville, IN, sits squarely on top of the intersection of US-30 and I-65. (And probably introduces more stop lights per mile to 30 than any other location along its length.) What's amusing is that I've taken 30 from here to the east coast before, but no further west than Illinois. Though I am hoping to move to either Oregon or Washington at some point in '05 so when I do I guess I can just hop on good ol' 30 and start driving. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ncftp versus ncftp2 -- Debian packages for woody
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 19:17 -0600, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: > I note that ncftp is perhaps ten times bigger than ncftp2 and is a > rewrite of it with ncurses being in it. And ncftp2 has no SOCKS in it. > (It's barefoot?) > > What is the difference between the two? Or rather, what does it > mean? It appears that ncftp is more of a GUI application since ncurses > seems to be necessary for terminal graphics. IIRC > > I've been shopping the packages list for woody on www.Debian.org. > > Thank y'all for the background information in advance! ncftp2 is the old ncftp client which many people really liked to use in scripts (a la wget). ncftp (3.x+) is a rewrite which focuses on using ncftp as a client application, not an automated scripting tool. If you prefer a CLI ftp client to a GUI like I do, ncftp (3.x+) is about the best program out there. It does local and remote directory completion, it has a great bookmark system, tons of options, and is very well laid out. And best of all, while it uses ncurses it manages to do so without those garish red on blue menus. Everything is in black and white but just laid out in an easy to read graphical layout. If, on the other hand, you need a cron job to do lots of ftp transfers and wget can't handle it for some reason, ncftp2 might be what you need. That's just my opinion though. I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find quite a few die hard ncftp2 users who actually use it as their client day to day. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Re: Why do people use 1280x1024? (was Re: custom gdm screen resolution? [SOLVED - work around])
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 13:55 -0600, Kent West wrote: > Daniel B. wrote: --snip-- > > You young whippersnappers are using modeline _generators_? > > Back in the good old days I calculated modeline values by hand. > > > You had hands?! Luxury! We had to do it in our heads. And we enjoyed it! And I suppose you had a house to live in while you were doing it then, did you? You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt. And we were thankful! -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian sid and "risk management"
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 11:40 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 09:18 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: --snip-- > > But I do absolutely agree that for mission critical systems, stable > > should be the only real choice. > > With or without backports? Or hand compiled packages? or Third Party > (read as non-Debian) software that needs non-Debian package (as in not > packaged by Debian Developers for Debian)? A mission critical system definitely should not use backports and definitely SHOULD use security updates. Hand compiled packages are left to your discretion. Sometimes they are necessary, but are you confident enough in the software and have you tested it thoroughly with an identical test system for a prolonged period to make sure it won't break? Third-party software should observe all of the considerations for hand-compiled packages. Further considerations in the case of commercial software include warranties and certification of the software. If the software does break and brings your business to a grinding halt, what will the vendor to rectify the situation, and how quickly will they do it? Keep in mind that most vendors will only certify to big-name distributions like Red Hat and will not support a Debian installation. This is always up to your discretion, but if my job were riding on a system staying up I certainly wouldn't risk using commercial software on an unsupported platform. > To what extent do you see, MISSION CRITICAL SYSTEMS being? an example > please. A mission critical system is a production system which handles a major and important portion of the production process. In a previous life I worked in the IT department for a large steel company. Mission critical there meant any of the production line computers. If any of these fails, the entire line needs to be shut down. The cost of this is in the MILLIONS of dollars and that is not even considering lost profits and lost materials. Just to stop the line and start it back up is in the MILLIONS. THAT is mission critical. One of our clients at my current job runs their business almost exclusively through faxes. They have 6 servers, each handling 4 fax lines, and they go through roughly 4000 faxes in a typical day. A downtime of 1 minute could translate to 24 lost or delayed faxes, each to or from a very important customer. That's mission critical. Needless to say these boxes are all running Woody. A web or mail server for a company that does not rely on e-commerce would be non-mission critical in my opinion. A Sid system in normal operation can easily provide 99.999% uptime or better. That's roughly 9 hours of down-time in a year. (One of our file servers running Sid has been up for 480 days, so far in '04 it's at 100% uptime.) A Woody system should be able to do 99.% or even 99.9% uptime. 1 hour or 5 minutes of down-time in a year, respectively. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian sid and "risk management"
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 22:39 -0600, Tim Kelley wrote: --snip-- > If you think testing or unstable is suitable for production systems you are > one of > > 1. an idiot > 2. have very limited needs/no experience > 3. talking out of your ass > 4. have no concept of what it means to be responsible for others' work Thanks for the kind words. :) My comment regarding the nuclear defense grid was a reference to mission critical systems. If production DEPENDS on a server being up no matter what, then absolutely, you should be running Woody. However, since the majority of the work that I do is IT outsourcing for companies, most of the servers that we put together are for internal or non-mission critical external applications. In these cases, running Sid is perfectly acceptable and preferable, since our customers tend to be more interested in having better features available and they can survive if they go without email for 3 hours in a year. And having 19 Sid servers in our data center and another 68 at customer sites with no major problems in nearly 4 years should go a ways towards illustrating that. But I do absolutely agree that for mission critical systems, stable should be the only real choice. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: php plugin for emacs
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 05:05 +0800, Lian Liming wrote: > Hi all, > > I am using debian/unstable. I want to know which package i need to > install that can enable php syntax highlight in emacs editor. I have > used "aptitude search" but can't find related packages. Either html-helper-mode or php-elisp. I'm surprised that aptitude search didn't find anything for you... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search emacs php exuberant-ctags - build tag file indexes of source code definitions html-helper-mode - A popular HTML editing mode for emacs php-elisp - Emacs support for php files txt2regex - A Regular Expression "wizard", all written with bash2 builtins -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian sid and "risk management"
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 14:42 -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 10:05 -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear > > > defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on > > > servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. > > Running unstable on an outward-facing server is probably a bad idea > because security holes could be present. > > The general advice I've heard on this list is run wooody+security > updates + backports. Well, when a security hole in an application is found the next version of the application usually includes a fix, so by keeping the system regularly updated with the newest versions of a package it SHOULD keep most of the holes plugged. woody + security is definitely the safest bet, but see my previous statements about running a nuclear defense grid or something less critical. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:37 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Alex Malinovich wrote: > > Debian - a distribution which uses the Linux kernel with the GNU OS > > tools and a whole bunch of associated userland applications > > Bzt. Debian, a project which puts together distributions of various > kernels, userland tools and applications the most famous of which is their > GNU/Linux project but also includes their GNU Hurd, NetBSD and FreeBSD > projects. ;P > > See http://www.debian.org/ports/ and the "Non-Linux Ports" section. Doh! Of course you and Wim are both correct. My apologies on the oversight. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 12:48 +0100, Jon-Eirik Pettersen wrote: > Sam Watkins wrote: > > For example, windows XP and Max OS X have a user-interface for switching > > between multiples users' desktops. We don't have such an interface in > > Debian / under X as far as I know, but it possible to do the same sort > > of thing from the command line, it's just that no one has gone to the > > trouble to make a "click-and-drool" way to do this yet ;) > Isn't that being implemented in KDE 3.4? What's wrong with Ctrl+Alt+F[8-12]? (Or does KDE not support multiple logins ala gdmflexiserver?) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 20:33 +, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: --snip-- > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) but if you take --snip-- I'm actually really surprised that you find the localization poor. In my experience, at least with GUI tools, I've found localization to be excellent. While I do prefer to do most of my work in English since I live in the US, I do occasionally log in to Gnome with my locale set to sr_YU for a taste of my native language, and almost EVERYTHING is translated perfectly. And I would think that with French being a much more prominent language (I assume you're referring to French localization) it would actually be even better. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Windows vs Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 11:32 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > > Well, Linux is certainly less user friendly (especially if you have > > difficulty with english as localization is quite poor) > > Although I cannot comment on the localization issue let's please not > repeat this particular piece of FUD. Studies of children who have never used > computers before do /not/ find Linux any harder to learn than Windows (or > Mac). They are just /different/ and a great many people have a problem with > anything that's different. They will always find the first thing they have > learned easier than any alternative. If you do not understand that we'll > have > to review all the cases where people (normaly older, but not always) having > problems with computers and preferring non-computer alternatives to do the > same task because it is easier. :P I second that. My dad always found Windows difficult to use for years because he learned how to use the computer in the days of DOS with the assistance of Norton Commander. Windows was really difficult for him. I recently helped him make the jump to Ubuntu and he's been quite happy so far. I'm actually considering installing Midnight Commander for him to see how he likes it. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:18 -0500, Jozsef Mak wrote: --snip-- > >(This has always been a pet peeve of mine with The Gimp, though I > >believe Photoshop suffers from it as well. WHY OH WHY can't we drag the > >borders of a selection after we've made it??!?!?!) > > You can. In Gimp make a selection, hold down the ALT key, the pointer > changes to move; position it on the selection and now you can drag it around > without affecting the image. (This is in Gimp 2.2) This will move the entire selection box. What I want to do is RESIZE the selection box. (Like you would resize a window by clicking on one of the borders and dragging.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 13:57 -0500, Ryan D'Baisse wrote: > On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 12:48:24 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Debian is not Linux. > > > > > Okay, I'm confused. Does Debian not use the Linux kernel? > > Not trying to be rude... I'm a newbie (still downloading Debian). They're arguing semantics here... :) This all kind of comes back to the old Linux vs. GNU/Linux debate. Ok, as I'm bored, I'll ela-BORE-ate. :) Linux - the kernel originally written by Linus Torvalds GNU - the collection of tools that make up the OPERATING SYSTEM (which is in this case based on the Linux kernel) Debian - a distribution which uses the Linux kernel with the GNU OS tools and a whole bunch of associated userland applications In the case of Windows we have: Windows - the kernel (ntkrnl) Windows - the collection of tools that make up the OPERATING SYSTEM (which in this case is based on the Windows kernel) Windows - a distribution which uses the Windows kernel with the Windows OS tools and a much smaller bunch of associated userland applications Then, finally, we have 'outside' programs. Programs which aren't officially recognized as a part of either distribution. In the case of Debian these are programs which aren't in the official repository. In the case of Windows, these are all the programs which aren't included in a basic Windows installation (including things like Winamp, Mozilla, Photoshop, etc.). -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Gimp select tool (was: Re: Linux Functionality?)
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 07:38 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 11:33:43PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > ... > > And though I hate to admit the need for tools such as these, SIMPLIFIED > > GUI tools for specific tasks tend to be better in Windows. As a great > > case in point, most digital cameras come with software included that > > lets you quickly and easily crop, resize, or otherwise manipulate > > photos. These are all things that can be done with Gimp or a few > > command-line tools in Linux, but none of them are all that SIMPLE. > > There's a great program by Kodak which makes cropping pictures a breeze. > > It automagically suggests a selection of the photo to crop and, GASP, it > > lets you DRAG the crop selection borders. > > > > (This has always been a pet peeve of mine with The Gimp, though I > > believe Photoshop suffers from it as well. WHY OH WHY can't we drag the > > borders of a selection after we've made it??!?!?!) > ... > > ??? The autocrop function may not work directly on a photo (or not > well, at least), but certainly you can drag the selection around and > change its size/borders (quite easily, too). I wouldn't imagine > autocropping to be particularly useful on most average photos > anyway--it tends to remove too much border area (though I don't know > about the Kodak one). Could you elaborate on changing the size and borders of a selection in The Gimp? I've worked with it for quite a while at home and at work and I've NEVER been able to resize a selection once it's been made. I know about the "add" and "subtract" modes, but what I'd like is to be able to just hover over the bottom right corner of a selection, get a little diagonal line icon, and drag it to a different size rectangle. Is this actually possible and how the heck did I miss it?! -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Linux Functionality?
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 22:38 -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > As someone who's been using Linux since 2000, and who's wife also > > exclusively uses it, I must ask you, "Are you smoking crack?" > > No. Care to tell me why you think I'm smoking crack because I think > that anything Windows does Debian Linux does as well or better? Not to in any way support Windows as I use Debian exclusively at home and at work, but to just back Ron up here, there are some things that are better done in Windows (for the time being at least). Video editing tools (at least the free ones that I've found for Linux) are ages behind those available in Windows. Games are also another big one. There are still no CAD applications to compete with the likes of AutoCAD. There are no civil engineering tools that I know of for Linux to compete with Microstation. And though I hate to admit the need for tools such as these, SIMPLIFIED GUI tools for specific tasks tend to be better in Windows. As a great case in point, most digital cameras come with software included that lets you quickly and easily crop, resize, or otherwise manipulate photos. These are all things that can be done with Gimp or a few command-line tools in Linux, but none of them are all that SIMPLE. There's a great program by Kodak which makes cropping pictures a breeze. It automagically suggests a selection of the photo to crop and, GASP, it lets you DRAG the crop selection borders. (This has always been a pet peeve of mine with The Gimp, though I believe Photoshop suffers from it as well. WHY OH WHY can't we drag the borders of a selection after we've made it??!?!?!) As I said previously I am not at all a MS supporter, I'm just playing the Devil's advocate here. Ron, I guess that would make you the Devil. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian sid and "risk management"
On Sat, 2004-12-25 at 16:48 +0100, Bob Alexander wrote: --snip-- > While I love using sid because of the very current releases and I am > willing to take the risk of having to debug "some" problems, being the > system I WORK with the only I have, getting fundamental things wrong can > seriously impact my job. While this doesn't actually answer your question about how to check the age of a package, I do feel that I should inject a comment about the relative stability of Sid here. My primary machine at work is a Debian-only machine running Sid AND Experimental. In the last 6 months or so, I have spent probably about 5 - 6 hours working through problems caused by packages on my system, ALL of them caused by Experimental. All of the servers that I use for my day to day work also run Sid, and I've never had a problem with any of them that wasn't caused by user error. Sid is probably not the right choice if you need to run a nuclear defense grid, but for day to day work on the desktop and even on servers, it's plenty stable enough in my experience. With that said, what I usually do for my servers is do an update every two weeks, storing the list of packages that WOULD be upgraded in a text file. Then when I do my next update, I compare that list vs the list of two weeks ago and only install the packages that HAVEN'T changed. This gives me a selection of two week old packages that MOST LIKELY work (since critical bugs are usually fixed within two weeks). -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: udev and gnome-volume-manager not working in Sarge
On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 19:59 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 02:11:38PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > This is just a copy of your pre-udev device entries. They're not used > > for anything, they're just pretty much there for your reference. > > I've been wondering about this. Say you're not interested in the usual "my > /dev is emptier than yours" dick-waving contest... you want what's in /dev > to stay in /dev. But you actually want udev's symlink-making ability for > some silly reason. Can udev actually operate this way, or is all it can do > the usual Gnomish "I know how you should use your computer better than you > do" crap? Let it mount a gods-be-damned tempfs if it wants, but let it > also put everything INTO that tempfs. > > Well? Can it? Not to the best of my knowledge. Though I honestly can't see WHY you would want to still have all of the entries there. I personally think that the ability to do an "ls" in /dev and not have to sit there for the next 7 minutes while every useless device I'll never encounter is listed to be a priceless feature. udev is designed to minimize the number of devices you have to have in /dev at any given time. If you don't want that, then by all means, don't use it. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: udev and gnome-volume-manager not working in Sarge
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 16:41 -0500, H. S. wrote: --snip-- > Okay, here is what I get when I list the hd[cd] permissions and those of > the device link created by pluggin of a USB stick based on my rule in udev: > ~# ls -l /dev/hd[cd] /dev/*hs* > brw-rw 1 root disk 22, 0 Dec 15 14:13 /dev/hdc > brw-rw 1 root disk 22, 64 Dec 15 14:13 /dev/hdd > brw-rw 1 root root 8, 0 Dec 15 16:34 /dev/hs-jd-sda > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 15 16:34 /dev/hs-jd-usb -> hs-jd-sda > > > Regarding the cdrom drives (hd[cd]), I looked into > /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions and noticed that I have these > lines in this file: > cdemu/*:root:cdrom:0660 > ide/*/cd:root:cdrom:0660 > ide/*:root:disk:0660 <--- is this deciding the root:disk permissions? > hd[a-s]:root:disk:0660 > hd[a-s][0-9]*:root:disk:0660 > sd[a-z]:root:disk:0660 > sd[a-z][0-9]*:root:disk:0660 > sd[a-i][a-z]:root:disk:0660 > sd[a-i][a-z][0-9]*:root:disk:0660 > > > Am I supposed to tune this permissions file to make cdrom as root:cdrom? > Also, based on these lines, should an /dev/sda device be made by > /dev/hs-jd-sda and own by root:disk? Yes, you need to edit the permissions file. The line you'll probably want to look at for your hd* devices is: hd[a-s]:root:disk:0660 You'll want to change disk to cdrom. (or, alternately, you can just add yourself to the disk group.) > However, in /.dev, I have: > > ll /.dev/hd[cd] > brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2004-03-23 16:48 /.dev/hdc > brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 64 2004-03-23 16:48 /.dev/hdd This is just a copy of your pre-udev device entries. They're not used for anything, they're just pretty much there for your reference. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
