Re: Easier to Read Fonts
On Sunday 11 February 2007 12:11, Winston Smith wrote: To my chagrin, web pages are actually easier to read indirectly from my wife's Windows machine (when I connect to it by VNC from my Debian box) than directly on my Debian box. Her Firefox uses Times New Roman, which I believe is a true type font. On my Firefox I've tried Serif, Free Serif (slightly better), etc., but still no contest. An 'apt-cache search' lead me to xfstt. Is that what I need? If so, where do I get the actual fonts, especially Times New Roman? I'm pretty comfortable with the Bitstream Vera TrueType fonts. Personally I prefer the sans serif, but the serif fonts look pretty good too. I'm no connoisseur of fonts, but Vera Serif looks pretty similar to Times New Roman to me. Very easy on the eyes. apt-cache show ttf-bitstream-vera -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Sunday 28 January 2007 02:42, Mike Hommey wrote: To be fair, it's not exactly true, because upgrading from firefox to iceweasel in debian means upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.5 to 2.0, and there are substancial changes that some people dislike, myself included. I don't even want to get into the firefox/iceweasel food fight, but I have to agree with that sentiment. I'm still running FF 1.0 something on my Knoppix/Sarge/Unstable hybrid at home. Recently I upgraded my Windows box at work to FF 2.0. The most obvious effect of the upgrade was that it broke a whole bunch of extentions that I've grown accustomed to. Whatever improvements 2.0 brought kind of pale in comparison to that loss of functionality, so I'm not in any hurry to upgrade FF anywhere else. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scheduling FTP / HTTP downloads?
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:34, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:49:52PM +0100, Mark wrote: I was hoping that there are programs/webinterfaces out there that can take this load off of our shoulders and download things during the night? If user's can append a url to have wget get, then you can have a script to run wget -c -i that_list with the approriate rate-limit for the time of day. At 6 pm, remove the limit, during the day have a low limit. I'm stuck on a slow dialup connection here. I have a script that runs from cron after midnight each night. Among other things, it downloads any urls it finds in a file called /var/wget/files. Works well enough for my purposes. # wget files if any if [ -e /var/wget/files ] [ -e /tmp/nightly ]; then echo `/bin/date` echo retrieving /var/wget files /usr/bin/wget -c -i /var/wget/files -o /var/wget/log -P /var/wget fi -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Вопрос по установке
Very kind of you both to try to help the OP, and to explain to those of us who do not read Russian. On Wednesday 10 January 2007 08:22, Vladimir Kozlov wrote: Hello Alexey, You'd better ask questions in russian to the debian-russian@lists.debian.org, while this list is for English-speakers ;-) This guy tries to install Debian from DVD disks, but installer could not find hard disk. I am asking for more details (platform? SATA? IDE?). Алексей, можно ли немного подробнее - на какой платформе (i386/amd64) это присходит? Какой именно тип диска (IDE? SATA?) Kind regards, Vladimir. Алексей wrote: Здравствуйте. При установке Debian с DVD дисков (образы дисков скачаны по ссылкам сайта debian.org) программа установки сообщила о том, что не находит жесткий диск. При этом жесткий диск у меня единственный и ОС Windows на нем работает без проблем. Подобный вопрос обсуждался здесь: http://www.nixp.ru/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?board=faq;action=display;n um=1150432497 Существует ли какое-либо приемлемое решение данной проблемы? Спасибо. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ
Re: Filter old mail with procmail
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 10:34, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Kevin Mark escribe: formail -s procmail some_mail_box This is only useful if mail is stored in mbox format. The bogofilter package has a perl script called printmaildir which will convert a maildir directory to an mbox. It works well as a filter. printmaildir.pl some_maildir | formail -s procmail would probably accomplish the same thing as Ismael's command line. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's up with all the attitude
On Monday 06 November 2006 21:25, Douglas Tutty wrote: Then factor in: Two correspondants who have different first languages, possibly neither english yet now emailing in english. Different cultural ways of interpreting the same written phrase. It takes great skill to communicate effectivly using written language, especially across ethno/cultural/linguistic barriers. No one has this skill to perfection yet everyone has something to offer. And then there are the days when we are just in a grumpy mood and inclined to take anything at all in the wrong way. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ
Re: what's up with all the attitude
On Tuesday 07 November 2006 08:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think much of those who swing RTFM around like a club. I don't think that's ever helpful. You don't need to hit things with a stick. You can also point the way with it. I agree, but too often people use RTFM for no other purpose than to punish. RTFM and come back when you've done your home work. Worse than useless. RTFM this HOWTO. Better. Sounds like you might have a problem with /etc/foo.conf. RTFM this HOWTO to get some ideas what to look for. My preferred answer. It's not always possible to be so specific, but many of us stumbled over the same things when we started. And the confidence gained from a fairly quick solution makes it more likely that a newbie will RT their own FM when the next problem comes up. I know it did for me. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ
Re: what's up with all the attitude
On Monday 06 November 2006 16:51, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Mon, Nov 06, 2006 at 10:10:34AM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Monday 06 November 2006 10:02, Greg Folkert wrote: Couple of lists I am on, the matter of factly answers are all RTFM with exact locations and nothing else. If that is the case, the developers need to rewrite the manual in a way which is understood by others. The content is probably OK but may need reorganization. Getting RTFM questions does not always mean that the reader is/was lazy to search for answers... Many of the first reply messages by Tom Eastep on the shorewall-users mailing list are a URL and little else. After having seen this for while I see that it is a good approach. In fact, many of the second reply messages from the users are something like oh, I didn't see that or I did not read closely enough. I don't think much of those who swing RTFM around like a club. I don't think that's ever helpful. I started Linux with Slackware 0.99. It's not likely that I would have even got to the point of a bootable system, and almost certain that I never would have become a convert, if it hadn't been for the patient help of a very capable teacher. jjohn was system administrator at a local ISP. He introduced me to Linux in general and Slackware in particular. He held my hand when I needed it, and answered a lot of stupid newbie questions. Invariably, he would give me a short answer first. Oh, you just need to do X. or You might have a problem with Y. Here's what I would do. Then he would add, If you want to know why, this HOWTO/webpage/manpage will tell you all about it. In most cases, his first suggestion, X or Y, fixed my immediate problem and got me past another hurdle. My confidence bolstered by a quick fix, I was all the more interested in reading the recommended documentaion to find out why and how it worked.In fairly short order, looking back on it now, I went from the original clueless newbie to a fairly confident Slack user. I owe a debt I can never repay to jjohn. I've been trying to pay it forward ever since. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bluefish docs? (WAS: Re: Debian apps for CSS editing)
On Thursday 28 September 2006 16:59, Marc Shapiro wrote: I decided to take a look at bluefish, but, after installing it, I can not find the docs for it. The manpage is just a single page saying that it was created for Debian since there was no upstream manpage. There is no documentation in /usr/share/doc/bluefish, or /usr/share/bluefish. The README says that there should be a manual in the /doc subdirectory, but I can not find such a subdirectory, or manual. Is this one of those instances where the developers decided that it was OK to have the app in Debian, but that the docs were not acceptable? http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/manual/ That took maybe 20 seconds on google. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good reference book
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 15:48, Sam Franc wrote: What is a good reference book to get to start to learn linux and debian? Sam I have found The Debian System by Martin Krafft to be very useful. I'm not sure if it would be adequate by itself for a total beginner, but it is a very comprehensive guide to installing and maintaining a debian system. http://www.nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=debian -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: psql command
On Monday 04 September 2006 11:47, Iuri Sampaio wrote: The postgres commands doesn't work to an user account I already created the user on postgres desktop:~# su - postgres [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createuser -a -d oacsbr and set on .bashrc LD_LIBRARY_PATH=:/usr/local/pgsql/lib:/usr/local/pgsql/lib PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/local/ pgsql/b in:/usr/local/pgsql/bin But somehow I can't run any commands such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createdb -E UNICODE mytestdb -su: createdb: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ psql -l -su: psql: command not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ psql -l mytestdb.dmp mytestdb -su: psql: command not found Does anyone knows what I've missed? A small thing that I have overlooked more than once. You have to run .bashrc after an edit, either by logging out and back in, or by sourcing it on the command line. ~$ . .bashrc -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: locales_2.3.6.ds1-1_all.deb
On Friday 18 August 2006 20:31, Mumia W. wrote: On 08/18/2006 07:20 PM, Bud Rogers wrote: My nightly apt-get upgrade script has failed the last couple of nights with the following error: Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.6.ds 1-1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 204.152.191.7 80] I've checked several mirrors and that deb doesn't seem to exist on any of them. Does anyone know why apt seems to think it should? Do an apt-get update beforehand. Locales_2.3.6.dsl-1_all.deb could be an obsolete file. My script does update before upgrade, so it is always working with the most recent Packages files. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
locales_2.3.6.ds1-1_all.deb
My nightly apt-get upgrade script has failed the last couple of nights with the following error: Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/locales_2.3.6.ds1-1_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 204.152.191.7 80] I've checked several mirrors and that deb doesn't seem to exist on any of them. Does anyone know why apt seems to think it should? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge - how to write a filesystem backup directory to a DVD ?
On Monday 07 August 2006 17:23, Keith Christian wrote: Having gotten a new internal DVD burner, I'd like to know the best way to burn a directory of files to a DVD for system backup. (Also, I'd rather burn the DVD using a command at the BASH prompt instead of from a GUI.) The capacity of the DVD is 8gb, write speed is 16x, and the size of the directory to be burned to the DVD is about 7gb so there should be plenty of space. I know this is not exactly what you are asking, but may I suggest that you take a look at mondo. It is a suite of tools for making self contained backups. It uses many existing tools like cdrecord as backends to accomplish necessary tasks. It has a simple and intuitive ncurses based semi-graphical front end. It is possible to make a complete backup on a set of bootable CDs or DVDs. The defaults are reasonable. You can create a complete backup of your system by hitting enter a few times and feeding it disks when it asks. It is also possible to run mondo from the command line, lending it to automated backups from cron, etc. You can take the disks to another machine, boot the first disk and restore your system. I did exactly that to migrate a sarge machine at work to a different box. The new/old box was a surplus Windoze machine. Different hardware, different disks, different everything. When I booted the first disk and told it to restore, it noticed that the partitions were different, asked if I wanted to repartition, and dropped me into fdisk. I set the partitions I wanted -- different from the old box -- and continued with the restore. Once the restore was done mondo noticed the new partition structure, asked if I wanted to fix lilo.conf, and dropped me into vim. I ran lilo, popped the last CD out and rebooted. Presto, I had my box up and running on a totally different set of hardware. I have heard people talk of bare-metal restores as a great and painful adventure. Thanks to the mondo suite, mine was totally painless. The actual backup and restore took a while writing and reading the CDs, but my actual interaction in each case was maybe five or ten minutes. Recommended. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] KD5SZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what's on port 28001?
I got more than 27000 of these last night between 8:00 and 9:00, coming from 1371 different source IP's, all to destination port 28001. What's so interesting about that port? Jun 27 20:02:02 twocups kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=64.228.91.172 DST=207.3.88.229 LEN=36 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=116 ID=34319 PROTO=UDP SPT=2437 DPT=28001 LEN=16 -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh update or upgrade required? which is it?
On Monday 24 June 2002 20:51 pm, John Hasler wrote: Chris writes: I presume potato is still being security patched, at least until a bit after Woody is released. There is a fix coming for Potato. It is considerably more difficult. The security team only had four hours notice. After all the flack they've taken about the delays in releasing woody, they deserve a pile of attaboys for getting the woody packages out so quick. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
capture parallel data
I've been handed an interesting problem at work. We have a new microwave system going live. Alarm processor is a PC acting essentially as a dumb terminal, logging all alarms to the screen and dumping them to a parallel printer. While the techs are in the process of bringing stations on line, the system is generating a lot of alarms. A LOT of alarms. Most of the alarms are not very important and will go away as the techs get things tweaked up. Problem is the occasional show stopper mixed in with all the trivial stuff. At present it's pretty much a full time job for somebody to keep an eye on all those alarms to make sure nothing critical goes by unnoticed. I've been asked to come up with a way to monitor the alarms so it doesn't tie a person down. The software on the alarm console is proprietary (natch) and stupid. AFAICT it can't be programmed at all. It doesn't have any provision to export data in any form other than what's on the screen or what it dumps to the printer in real time. I need a way to capture that data and ship it to my linux box. I won't have direct access to the PC, we'll have to ship the data over the house network in one form or another. One of the techs thinks he can come up with a way to capture the parallel data between the PC and the printer and convert it to ether or serial. If so we could ship that to my linux box. I would not have any control over the data, I would have to catch it as it comes. If I can do that, then I could parse it with perl, sift out the important stuff and page somebody or whatever. Has anyone done anything like that? If I can get the data into my box I can handle it from there, but I've never tried to capture data on the fly. Any suggestions would be welcome. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: under six inches of water -- a debian tale
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 07:37 am, will trillich wrote: i thought y'all might enjoy this little tale concerning the robustness of debian: ... but the debian box, and i swear the cpu fan was under water acting as a mini boat-prop, was STILL OPERATING when saturated with H2O. Will, that is a wonderful story, but I imagine it says more about Acer than about Debian. :} -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB 2. 4 kernels
On Monday 06 May 2002 06:51 am, Thomas R. Shemanske wrote: USB modules (for keyboard and mouse (HID devices)) need to be compiled staticly into the kernel (not loaded as modules) so they are available at boot time. You can do this with dynamically modules but only if you run an initrd kernel (such as the stock Debian kernels). Following advice of David Roundy, I built a 2.4.17 kernel plus relevant usb modules. My trackball works fine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux twocups 2.4.17 #5 Sun May 5 21:50:31 CDT 2002 i686 unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lsmod| grep -iE 'usb|mouse|hci' uhci 24392 0 (unused) mousedev3808 1 usbmouse1792 0 (unused) input 3072 0 [mousedev usbmouse] usbcore52064 0 [uhci usbmouse] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Thanks, David! -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB 2. 4 kernels
I have a couple of mostly woody boxes. Both have Logitech USB Marble Trackman for mice. Both mice work well with 2.2.19 kernels. Yesterday I installed kernel-source-2.4.18 on one of the boxes and built a new kernel for it. I included all the relevant USB modules when I configured the kernel. The new kernel boots fine, X and KDE come up fine, but the Trackman doesn't work. AFAICT, I have the same modules loaded as with the 2.2. kernel. The only thing I find in dmesg or kern.log that seem unusual are the following: May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 2 May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=2 (error=-110) May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 3 May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout May 3 14:09:24 mug kernel: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=3 (error=-110) My wife is also having usb problems with her Mandrake box running a 2.4.8 kernel. Are there issues with usb in 2.4? I read everything I could find about usb in /usr/src/linux/Documentation and poked around the archives a bit, but didn't find anything specific. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB 2. 4 kernels
On Saturday 04 May 2002 14:07 pm, dave mallery wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2002, Bud Rogers wrote: My wife is also having usb problems with her Mandrake box running a 2.4.8 kernel. Are there issues with usb in 2.4? I read everything I could find about usb in /usr/src/linux/Documentation and poked around the archives a bit, but didn't find anything specific. try www.linux-usb.org I went there, among other places. I didn't find anything that seemed relevant to my problem. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB 2. 4 kernels
On Saturday 04 May 2002 17:06 pm, David Roundy wrote: 2.4.18 was a particularly bad kernel for USB. I'd try again with 2.4.17 or 2.4.19prewhatever. Generally my experience is that my USB mouse and 2.4.keyboard have worked very well (except when using 2.4.18). Thanks for that info. What 2.4 kernel have you had the best luck with, in general and with USB? My ultimate goal is a VPN using FreeSwan and Shorewall, so solid behavior in networking and crypto is a concern also. Any suggestions would be welcome. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bind9 reloading a million times
On Sunday 28 April 2002 06:08 am, martin f krafft wrote: every now and then, my bind logs are filled with hundreds and thousands of the following: general: info: loading configuration from '/etc/bind/named.conf' one every second, producing 200kb of logging data or more. It's been a while since I did any serious work with bind, but it sounds like something is killing named. If that were my box, I would be very curious about how much traffic it had on port 53 during those times, and where it was coming from. I would also be curious about what else was going on on the box during those times. There is probably an innocent explanation, but I would be looking for evidence of a DOS attack or crack attempt. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rock solid no GUI pim?
On Friday 26 April 2002 06:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a calendar program B) an address book, that are as non graphical, stable and as versatile as mutt. Anything that works with emacs gets a plus. There is a pretty decent calendar in Xemacs. I imagine the same is true of Emacs. For addressbook, check out BBDB. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vim :help error?
On Thursday 25 April 2002 06:00 am, Martin A. Hansen wrote: i cant get :help to work in vim. i get this error: help.txt.gz [readonly][noeol] 8L, 3051C Error detected while processing BufRead Auto commands for *.gz: I believe this is the same problem I ran into not long ago. If you have ~/.vimrc as well as a global vimrc in /etc, you must comment out the section that pertains to *.gz files in one or the other. There is a debian bug on file about it. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Scwawcaac: I need a little more on apps available for Linux
On Wednesday 24 April 2002 19:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then it would only make sense to start with a program that a lot of people already like and whose source is available (like LaTeX), and change it so it can do everything you want it to accomplish. Maybe give a Gui and call it GooeyLaTex. :) You might be interested in LyX http://www.lyx.org If you like KDE, you might be interested in KLyX http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_5305.html -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GnusXEmacs
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 22:02 pm, Christian Jaeger wrote: At 21:39 Uhr -0500 17.04.2002, Bud Rogers wrote: I ran gnus in Xemacs for a long time and loved it. As I remember, gnus can be built for either Xemacs or Emacs but cannot be compatible with both at the same time. You might want to rebuild/reinstall your gnus with the version of emacsen you intend to use it with. Doesn't the debian package take care of this? When installing emacs packages like gnus, it takes a long time for byte-compiling for all emacsen on the system. Yes, I believe the gnus deb takes care of that. I got the impression from your first post that you had installed it yourself. My mistake. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GnusXEmacs
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 18:46 pm, Christian Jaeger wrote: Hello Beginning to use some emacsen, I prefer XEmacs' handling in X (trying the 21-gnome-nomule version). But I can't seem to get Gnus fetching new mail when running it under xemacs. Running Gnus under gnu emacs21 works fine. I ran gnus in Xemacs for a long time and loved it. As I remember, gnus can be built for either Xemacs or Emacs but cannot be compatible with both at the same time. You might want to rebuild/reinstall your gnus with the version of emacsen you intend to use it with. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
traceroute errors
I started getting these errors yesterday. I can't figure out where they're coming from. System is mostly woody with a few packages from unstable. Any hints would be most appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.debian.org traceroute: Warning: findsaddr: error sending netlink message: Connection refused traceroute: Warning: ip checksums disabled traceroute to www.debian.org (198.186.203.20), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: debian on old notebook
On Monday 08 April 2002 14:29 pm, Mr. Jan Hearthstone wrote: Hearthstone: Where does one get laptops as cheap as that? ($10.-??, $30.-?). Could you share a URL? I tried google, got a bunch of hits that didn't seem to fit. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The New World Order is Here !
On Saturday 02 February 2002 22:26 pm, Stig Brautaset wrote: Can you please stop reposting spam to the list? My spamfilter caught the original spam, but there is precious little I can do about followups to spam when (a) the subject line is changed, and (b) there is no References: or In-Reply-To: header left in the mail. And again and again, the problem is not irate list members reposting spam nor the effectiveness of your filters. The problem is the policy allowing non-subscribers to post to the list which gives every spammer who wants to use it an open relay to the entire subscriber list. No matter how you tune your filters this will continue to be the problem. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: MIME Decoding command-line tool?
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 21:32 pm, Richard Cobbe wrote: It seems, from your X-Mailer header, that you're using Gnus. Doesn't it do MIME? Or is it the base64 encoding? That was the only thing that gnus didn't do well for me. At a time when I was having to deal with a lot of attachments -- often M$ -- I couldn't get gnus to handle them well. I never quite established if the problem was gnus or me. It has been a while since I tried however. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: [OT] Suggestions for cheap laser printer supported by Linux
On Monday 14 January 2002 19:36 pm, dman wrote: I haven't heard of GDI before. All the laser printers I've looked at (mostly HPs) had PCL and Postscript built-in. I have a LJIIIp still kicking here, and it is quite good. I'd go for a 5m or 6m or whatever they call that line now (the 5l or 6l is ok, but I like the 5m/6m better). I have a pair of 6L's here. Both worked flawlessly for two or three years. A year ago I would have recommended the 6L wholeheartedly. However, in the past year or so both have begun swallowing paper. I will probably look for replacements soon. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: make-kpkg exists, right?
On Thursday 03 January 2002 19:03 pm, Seneca Cunningham wrote: icosagon:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16# ls /usr/bin/perl ls: /usr/bin/perl: No such file or directory There's your problem. icosagon:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.16# ls /usr/bin/perl* /usr/bin/perl-5.6 /usr/bin/perl5.6.1 /usr/bin/perldoc.stub I'd guess there should be a symlink from one of the specific versions of perl to /usr/bin/perl. In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if you have other problems with perl scripts. Fixing your perl installation may solve lots of problems for you. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: The Info v. Man War of 2001 (was Re: Where do you RTFM ?)
On Tuesday 25 December 2001 16:52 pm, Henrik Enberg wrote: But none of the current browsers I'm aware of has the index and searching facilities that info has. When I'm stuck with html documentation I'm always extremely annoyed about how hard it is to find what I'm looking for. Me too. And when I'm stuck with info documentation I am often extremely annoyed about how hard it is to find what I'm looking for. I don't think that is an info vs html issue. I think it is a problem not of the document format or protocol, but of the structure of the document itself. The problem is not the tool used to produce the document but the person producing the document. In defense of info I would say this: it predates html. AFAIK it was the first widely known or used hypertext documentation protocol. In criticism of info I would say this: it predates html. AFAICT it hasn't changed a bit. We have learned a quite a bit about hypertext since info was developed. Info was a marvel in its day, but it is IMHO simply obsolete. Now I'm not trying to defend html in particular, although well written html documentation can be very nice to read and quite intuitive to navigate. So too can info, for that matter. I would much prefer well written, well structured documentation in some more universal format, like docbook, which can produce output to suit the reader's preference. Those who prefer html or postscript or pdf or plain text or even info for that matter, can read the docs in the format they prefer. That's what I'd like to see. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
On Monday 24 December 2001 09:19 am, Brian Nelson wrote: In my not so humble opinion, anyone that is spineless enough to put up with working in a forced MS environment is not worth listening to, and therefore I choose to ignore them. And in my not so humble opinion anyone arrogant enough to judge to whole world sight unseen is not worth listening to and therefore I choose to ignore them. plonk. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
50. Typical North American mongrel, which is to say profoundly mixed, mostly western European ancestry. Husband and father, scouter, ham. Amateur philosopher in the true meaning of both. Closet linguist. I love to read, mostly speculative ficition. I like most kinds of music but especially blues and rockroll. If you know the phrase the blues had a baby and they called it rockroll then you know what I like. Summer of 1970 I took a short course called Intro to Computer Science. Didn't have sense enough to recognize a vocation when I saw one. Summer of '80 or '81 I paid way too much for a 32K TRS80. Then Coco, OS-9, DOS, Win3.1. Summer of '95 a friend gave me a Slackware CD and literally changed my life. Learned the hard lessons on Slack, got comfortable with SuSE, came home to Debian. Often spend too long doing things by hand, then find out that Debian has a script... Parlayed a ham ticket and a passing acquaintance with packet radio into a position in data communications at a power company. Parlayed that and a passing acquaintance with Linux into my current position. I tend a gaggle of Digital Unix boxes in the Energy Management System. Mostly sysadmin type stuff, a little perl, a little this and that. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: list traffic out of sync -- was OT: mysql vs. postgresql
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 12:18 pm, martin f krafft wrote: hi, *PLEASE DON'T MAKE THIS INTO A FLAME WAR* if you are taking anything personal, please don't reply... I'm not even going to touch the mysql vs postgresql debate, but I just now received Martin's original post after I had already gotten four or five replies. Is anyone else getting mail traffic out of sequence? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: procmail recipe not working
On Thursday 06 December 2001 17:32 pm, shock wrote: So far, it's been *fantastic*. Mail::SpamAssassin is unbelievably accurate, and the filter script behaves exactly as I expect it to. I've been trying to install this module from CPAN with dh-make-perl. The build fails claiming it can't find libgdbm. It also complains that I don't have the MD5 module. I think I have both. I wonder what painfully obvious thing I'm overlooking... twocups:~# dpkg -l libgdbm\* ii libgdbmg1 1.7.3-27 GNU dbm database routines (runtime version). twocups:~# dpkg -l libdigest-md5-perl ii libdigest-md5- 2.14-1 Perl interface to the MD5 Algorithm twocups:~# dh-make-perl --build --cpan Mail::SpamAssassin CPAN: Storable loaded ok Going to read /root/.cpan/Metadata Database was generated on Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:13:03 GMT CPAN: MD5 security checks disabled because MD5 not installed. Please consider installing the MD5 module. [snip lots of pretty normai looking build stuff...] -- cc -DDEBIAN -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O2 spamd/spamc.c \ -o spamd/spamc -L/usr/local/lib -lgdbm -ldbm -ldb -ldl -lm -lc -lcrypt /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgdbm collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [spamd/spamc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/.cpan/build/Mail-SpamAssassin-1.5' make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 Cannot create deb package Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Kmail bug
On Tuesday 11 December 2001 15:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to woody, and now when I use KMail to download my email, it doesn't show the headers correctly, most email show No Subject and sender unknown But if I look at the headers in vi the info is there. Anyone else having this problem? Remove all the .index files in ~/Mail and let KMail rebuild them. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Children Of Dune To Start
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2001-12/03/12.30.sfc -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Children Of Dune To Start
On Monday 03 December 2001 19:30 pm, John Griffiths wrote: teeensy bit OT? Gak. Reply-to-list is gonna get me in real trouble one of these days. My humble apologies to the list... -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Thoughts on RTFM
On Thursday 29 November 2001 22:28 pm, Charles Baker wrote: SNIP apt-get install linuxcookbook I just tried the above using source.list entries for stable, and it wasn't downloaded: I just got in, but I'm using unstable. And I'm apt-getting it from woody as I type. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Thoughts on RTFM
On Thursday 29 November 2001 23:31 pm, Paolo Falcone wrote: Depends on the mentality of the user. There are users who are willing to help other users, while there are others who'd only help if the clueless user has exhausted all means aside from reading the manual, some simply help people who are encumbered by problems that aren't stated in the manual (there are problems and techniques that can't be learned via the manual alone), while others simply would give RTFM (the elitists).Maybe we should re- assess ourselves as users - we are all newbies (we can't know everything). The oldies are actually newbies with experience, and have been there (they were once newbies too) where the complete newbies are now. Paolo, I think you have hit upon a key point. The whole RTFM mentality reflects as much on the RTFMers as it does on the newbies. Long before I had anything to do with Linux I was into amateur radio. The ham community has a lot in common with the Linux community. There is a strong do-it-yourself ethic. The community is mostly self-policing. Hams who violate FCC regulations usually get hammered by other hams long before the FCC notices. But there is also a long, strong tradition of helping beginners get started. Every ham knows there is a short steep learning curve just to put a station on the air. Every ham knows a novice is likely to pollute the airwaves with a few unintended radiations in the process of gettting started. Every ham remembers the excitement and the difficulty of getting over those first few hurdles. Most hams are willing to help a novice get started. Most will answer questions if asked. Many will go out of their way to help a newbie get started. Some are more willing than others, and some are more able than others. The few who are most willing and best able to help a novice get started are known as elmers. Every ham has fond memories of some elmer who helped him get started. Some linux newbies are lucky enough to find an elmer to help them get started. I was. He spent hours on the phone with me, talking me through my first install of Slackware in the summer of 1995. He spent more hours on email and ytalk helping me customize and secure my system. He answered every one of my ignorant newbie questions. He never once invoked the dreaded RTFM. But every answer came with a reference. He would give me a short answer to my question along with a pointer to a HOWTO or web page where I could find the long answer. I always followed his pointers. I read the docs he pointed me to. His short answers got me over the hurdles quickly, and the pointers filled in my ignorance. And the combination brought me up to speed very fast. In about five months I went from absolute newbie to sysadmin of a local startup ISP. That's no brag on me. Most of the credit goes to my elmer. Thank you, jjohn. Thank you. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Which mail user agent do you use?
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 05:42 am, Jussi Ekholm wrote: Craig Dickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I use mutt, which allows me to use my own text editor (emacs), supports multiple accounts, doesn't crash, supports all the common mailbox formats (I prefer maildir), intelligently handles mailing lists, and is configurable as hell. Amen. Once I tried Mutt, I really couldn't switch for anything else - Mutt seems to cover *all* the aspects I expect from MUA; and you mentioned most of them, already. :-) Although, if one wants to configure Mutt to behave just the way he/she likes, it requires work and manual reading... but - what wouldn't you do to have a brilliant MUA behaving exactly the way you want it to?-) How does it handle sending and receiving attachments? Especially attachments from M$ MUA's? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursels as others see us!
Re: Which mail user agent do you use?
On Wednesday 21 November 2001 05:48 am, Jussi Ekholm wrote: Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I am back to mutt and slrn again - and enjoying it. And I will not easily try out gnus again. When it comes to MUAs, I've been *thinking* of trying Gnus, but for to date, haven't done it. I used gnus in Xemacs for years and loved it. It is an acquired taste. If you like the [x]emacs way of doing things, you will feel right at home in gnus. If you don't like [x]emacs, you probably won't care for gnus either. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursels as others see us!
Re: USB Mouse
On Monday 05 November 2001 04:09 am, aparra wrote: I will like to use a USB mouse whith debian 2.2. It is posible? How to do it? It's posible to use on X? I have a USB Logitech Trackman Marble on my system. It works great. You will need to create a device in /dev and load some modules. The process is outlined clearly in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt. It's not difficult. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: USB Mouse
On Monday 05 November 2001 06:10 am, aparra wrote: Bud Rogers wrote: On Monday 05 November 2001 04:09 am, aparra wrote: I will like to use a USB mouse whith debian 2.2. It is posible? How to do it? It's posible to use on X? I have a USB Logitech Trackman Marble on my system. It works great. You will need to create a device in /dev and load some modules. The process is outlined clearly in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/input.txt. It's not difficult. Thank you! Which kernel version are you using? kernel 2.2.19 -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: www.debian.org not responding
On Friday 02 November 2001 14:55 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: I've seen a few comments on list but not topic matching. I cannot ping or get HTTP access to www.debian.org. Anyone know what's up, or have a mirror list handy? I couldn't get to it from work today, but I just now tried it from home and got right to it. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: 3 buttons from a 2 button mouse, how?
On Tuesday 30 October 2001 14:48 pm, Paul Huygen wrote: Jeremiah Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I want to use an application which requires the use of a middle mouse button of a three button mouse but my mouse only has two buttons. How do I get around this? Usually by pressing the two buttons simultaneously. And adding 'Emulate3Buttons' to the Pointer section of XF86Config. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: Microsoft bullies again
On Friday 26 October 2001 19:41 pm, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Thought may be interesting for the debian community: NEW YORK (October 26, 2001 4:29 p.m. EDT) - Microsoft's premiere Web portal, MSN.com, denied access to millions of people who use alternative browser software such as Opera and told them to get Microsoft's products instead. http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story/158273p-1497208c.html First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you, and then you win. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: Microsoft bullies again
On Sunday 28 October 2001 12:32 pm, csj wrote: On Monday 29 October 2001 01:38, Bud Rogers wrote: On Friday 26 October 2001 19:41 pm, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Thought may be interesting for the debian community: NEW YORK (October 26, 2001 4:29 p.m. EDT) - Microsoft's premiere Web portal, MSN.com, denied access to millions of people who use alternative browser software such as Opera and told them to get Microsoft's products instead. http://www.nandotimes.com/technology/story/158273p-1497208c.html First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you, and then you win. What's wrong with Microsoft banning certain users from their OWN site? It's like complaining to a fancy restaurant that your shorts are okay despite the dress code. Maybe you could just run IE under wine. And what's wrong with users refusing to patronize a business whose policies they find offensive? The Internet and the Web are built on open standards and interoperability. Microsoft's policy flies in the face of that. I'm not going to their site. Period. I don't run IE. I don't need wine. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
LILO, dual booting, and Promise IDE controller
My wife is on her way to being M$ free. We added a second drive and installed potato and KDE on her Gateway W98 machine. She wants to dual boot while she learns her way around Linux and weans herself from Windows. Her Gateway has kind of a weird setup. The onboard IDE controller is disabled and the drives are plugged into a Promise IDE controller. They appear in Linux as hde and hdf. The install to hdf worked without a hitch. So far we have been booting Linux from floppy. The next step is to set up lilo so she can dual boot. When Windows boots, it puts up a Gateway splash screen and it's not clear to me whether there is anything special about the boot process. I'm being a little cautious here. If it was my box I wouldn't hesitate a second, but I don't want to mess up her Gateway/Windows setup until she's ready to ditch it. Does anyone have experience good or bad with a setup like this? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: cron every 5 minutes
On Sunday 21 October 2001 14:49 pm, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: Isn't the syntax to have cron run every five and not send email to anyone MAILTO= 5 * * * * run program That will run every hour at 5 minutes past the hour. What you want is probably */5 * * * * run program -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: /etc/aliases file
On Thursday 11 October 2001 00:33 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want mail delivered to my username different from my username at the mail server. so I set up /etc/aliases file to point any mail that is sent bob should go to username cat instead. bob:cat however, it doesnt work. I can see mail being downloaded for bob but it doesn't get forwarded to cat where I am waiting. Did you run newaliases? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: /etc/aliases file
On Thursday 11 October 2001 10:16 am, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Did you run newaliases? from the man of newaliases: DESCRIPTION This is a simple shell script calling /usr/lib/sendmail with the -bi option. It is provided for compatibility with the sendmail program. It is not actually necessary to notify exim of changes to /etc/aliases at all. It's not necesary using exim! Boy do I feel stupid... -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting
On Thursday 04 October 2001 04:54 am, P Kirk wrote: Its my impression that there are only a few email harvesters out there and that they don't work very hard. Perhaps once you have a list with a million names, its not worth wasting time building a new one. I suspect there is some truth to that. That was over 3 years ago. Since then I have used pknews all over usenet and patrick in quite a few mailing lists. Yet over half the 20 or so pieces of spam I get every day are to that old pkirk address which hasn't been used publicly in 3 years. About half of the spam I get these days is addressed not to my real address but to about half a dozen addresses of the form [EMAIL PROTECTED] always beginning with m2 and ending with .fsf and not to my ISP's mail server but directly to my Linux box. It took me a while to figure out they aren't email addresses at all. They're usenet message ID's generated by gnus. Gnus was my mail and news reader of choice for several years before I embraced KDE, but I haven't posted to usenet from gnus in a couple of years. Perhaps I need to get out more :-( Perhaps we all do. :-} -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: apt
On Thursday 20 September 2001 08:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this happen to look familiar to anyone? loki:/home/odin# apt-get update E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/fpt could not be found. I don't know about the other errors, but is that a typo? I think that should be /usr/lib/apt/methods/ftp not fpt... -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: Potato-Woody HOWTO?
On Thursday 20 September 2001 09:05 am, Yago Alvarado wrote: Hi! I've just subscribed to the list a few days ago and I'm seeing many messages about people migrating from the Stable to the Testing version of Debian which makes me think that it's not such a painful process as I had thought. Is there a HOWTO or something (perhaps in the archives?) explaining how to do it? (passing from the stable version to the testing version) It's really very simple. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list s/stable/testing/ all lines in the file. comment out the debian-security lines. Run apt-get update. Run apt-get dist-upgrade. Pay close attention to any errors that appear during the dist-upgrade process. You may need to run it more than once before it gets all the dependencies sorted out. Be prepared for a Very Large Download. I am in the process of upgrading a potato box at work. It wanted to download a bit less than 300 MB. I aborted the dist-upgrade and set up a cron job to download the files last night. Hopefully they will be there when I get to work tomorrow. I upgraded this box from stable to testing and then from testing to unstable using that process. I currently track unstable with an update/upgrade process running from cron every night. So far I have had very few surprises. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: woody and security.debian.org?
On Thursday 20 September 2001 10:12 am, Martin F Krafft wrote: (upgrading stable-testing) also sprach Bud Rogers (on Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:36:08AM -0500): It's really very simple. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list s/stable/testing/ all lines in the file. comment out the debian-security lines. do you really not need the security apt servers if you run testing? i know that the only dist they serve is stable anyway, but i seem to recall that someone once said that they should always stay in. I seem to remember that I got some File Not Found errors when I did the first update, and I remember someone on the list saying that security updates were only available for the current stable release, so I commented out those entries. I don't suppose it would hurt anything to leave them in, it just seemed more efficient to not go after file listings that weren't going to be there anyway. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: apache config broken
On Thursday 20 September 2001 05:02 am, John Griffiths wrote: [Thu Sep 20 07:59:11 2001] [alert] apache: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.0.3 for ServerName Have you set ServerName in httpd.conf? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
metamail
metamail for MIME attachments -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: metamail
On Sunday 16 September 2001 11:51 am, Bud Rogers wrote: metamail for MIME attachments Ack. That was not intended for the list. That red glow on the horizon is my face... -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] They have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.
Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 22:43 pm, Craig Dickson wrote: Karsten is using the word as it is commonly used among computer professionals. When some previously-common (or even not so common) practice or standard is superseded and no longer recommended, it is said to be deprecated. One often sees a phrase such as strongly deprecated in reference to something that is not merely no longer recommended, but actively discouraged or considered a Very Bad Thing. Except that in this case we're not talking about a practice that was not previously common or even not so common. We're talking about a practice that was virtually unknown until Microsoft flooded the market with badly broken mail and news clients that make it very difficult to properly quote or attribute anything. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Quoting styles, cont (Was Re: Fonts in GTK)
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 05:45 am, Bud Rogers wrote: Except that in this case we're not talking about a practice that was not previously common or even not so common. That's not a double negative, it's a brain fart. I meant to say We're not talking about a practice that was previously common or even not so common. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Quoting styles
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:51 pm, John Galt wrote: Elm predates any microsoft email product... Try to quote stuff in elm, the cursor goes to the beginning of the text. Another reason I never used elm. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: OT: WinLinux
On Tuesday 04 September 2001 12:03 pm, Brooks R. Robinson wrote: You might want to look at VMWare ( www.vmware.com ). When running at full screnn , it runs pretty well, and you can barely tell you not in native OS. I'm familiar with VMWare. I have had it running on this box. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
OT: WinLinux
This is totally OT for the list, but bear with me. My wife runs W98 on her PC. I've been trying to get her interested in Linux for a couple of years now. As Linux in general and KDE in particular have gotten more and more user friendly, she has gradually moved from polite indifference to mild interest. A couple of days ago she found the WinLinux website and emailed me the link. She found it interesting and wondered if it was worth messing with. Now I'm quite happy with my Debian and my KDE, thank you very much, but if she's interested in WinLinux I'm more than happy to feed her interest. Has anyone on the list had any experience good or bad with WinLinux? Could it be a way to give a Windows user a relatively stress free transition to Linux? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: OT: WinLinux
On Saturday 01 September 2001 20:24 pm, Jon Masters wrote: Why could anyone want to install Corel/WinLinux when there is Progeny GNU/Linux? Because my wife isn't ready to give up her Windows yet, but she has expressed interest in WinLinux. If that is a way to get her a few steps closer, then I am interested too. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Favorite Debian packages?
I think apt ought to be close to the top of any list. You can change one word in /etc/apt/sources.list, do apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade and walk away while apt gets you a totally new system. I don't know of any other distro or os that can do that. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Sendmail and mutt problems
On Saturday 25 August 2001 15:50 pm, Craig Holyoak wrote: Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by uq.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA27890 for debian-user@lists.debian.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 06:50:36 +1000 (GMT+1000) Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 06:50:36 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Craig Holyoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sendmail and mutt problems Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to use mutt to send my email. Sendmail is my mailer. Whenever I try to send a message, I get the error: Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. Looks like you have a different username in your From line than your actual login username. Sendmail balks at that unless you're listed on the TrustedUser line in sendmail.cf. I think you can also run sendmail with a -f switch to get around that restriction. In either case, you'll probably have to have root on the box in question to restart sendmail. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: apt-get cannot get any files (404)
On Friday 24 August 2001 15:43 pm, Erik Steffl wrote: when I try to update the system I get 404 for all files, anybody knows what's the problem? The update of package list works fine but when it starts doenloading packages all I see is 404, here's what it looks like: I get lots of Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 209.10.41.242 80] and Error reading from server Remote end closed connection [IP: 209.10.41.242 80] -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: how do i extract a bullet from my foot (tar woes)
On Monday 20 August 2001 04:54 pm, Greg Wiley wrote: On Monday, August 20, 2001 2:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: silly me filled up my current directory with a file called --remove-files. my question is: how the heck to i get rid of this beast i've tried Here is a C program that will do it: rm ./-remove-files is a lot simpler. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: sysadmin won't allow linux - PLEASE HELP
On Friday 17 August 2001 07:16 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to linux being viral, I'm guessing that they are assuming the majority of viruses and worms (or what have you) are being produced on a linux system. The term 'viral' in connection with Linux or Open Source software in general has nothing to do with viruses or worms. Someone described GPL code as viral because it 'infects' any software that includes it. The GPL requires that any software which includes GPL'ed code must also be at least as free as the GPL. So any program that includes GPL'ed code must also be Open Source. Which is a Good Thing(TM) to most of us, but a bad thing if your survival depends on keeping your code proprietary. Microsoft is trying to poison the public attitude about Open Source software by associating it with the scary term 'viral'. Typical Microsoft newspeak. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Local DNS?
On Friday 17 August 2001 06:46 pm, Jeffrey Nowakowski wrote: Is there some way I can use a local DNS server to cache DNS queries? I ask because my current DNS server is sometimes slow; I have a cable modem and configure DNS automatically through DHCP. Ideally I'd like to configure a local DNS server to use the cable's DNS, but cache host lookups for something like 24 hours before going out to the remote server again. Have a look at the DNS-HOWTO. Section 3 describes exactly what you want. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: ssh and X11Forwarding
On Wednesday 15 August 2001 06:41 pm, dman wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 01:13:50AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: | When ssh-ing to a computer in my small LAN as a normal user and using | X applications, such as emacs, everything works OK. Howver, with su to | root on the remote box X is refused: Connection lost to X | server`host:11.0' Probably root doesn't have permission to connection to host:11.0. I don't know what the solution is, though. PermitRootLogin is a setting in sshd_config. I think it defaults to no. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Home news server
On Monday 30 July 2001 04:40 am, Stephen J. Thompson wrote: I am looking for suggestions of a news server for a home network. It will be used to serve windows and linux machines. Apt-get install leafnode. Works great for a small user base like a home network. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Email line-length defaults to about 76; how to increase?
On Sunday 22 July 2001 12:48 pm, Jameson C . Burt wrote: My email lines get split after about 76 characters. How could I change this to something longer, or should email lines be split at 76 characters? If you make your line length anything more than 80 characters you will annoy a lot of people with character based mail readers. Something a bit less than 80 is better -- 76 is OK. This limit causes problems whenever I email Linux syslog lines, which are seldom less than even 90 characters in length. And how often do you email syslog entries as compared to other types of text? Everyone understands that log entries are going to wrap. If it's important to you, change your line lengths for that particular message, but change them back for everything else. I haven't been able to determine if this line-length limit is set by exim, procmail, or perhaps my mail user agent (balsa). It almost certainly set in your MUA. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Email line-length defaults to about 76; how to increase?
On Sunday 22 July 2001 01:56 pm, Martin F. Krafft wrote: also sprach Bud Rogers (on Sun, 22 Jul 2001 01:08:20PM -0500): It almost certainly set in your MUA. well, or the editor associated. i use vi, so there is no mutt setting involved... Ah, yes. I didn't think of MUA's that call external editors. I've used kmail for the last year or so, and gnus for years before that, so I tend to think of the reader and the composer as one and the same. Are there not some settings in .muttrc that are passed to vi or whoever? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: intentional mail-slowdown on murphy.debian.org?
On Wednesday 18 July 2001 02:08 pm, Mike Pfleger wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 08:10:42PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: Hi! Since [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn?t respond for a week or so, I thought someone round here might know if my perception that murphy.debian.org[0] lets connections sit in the below state for approx. 3-5 minutes is a general one, or if it?s just a problem on my end. I've noticed this, too. I wrote a reply, thanking the volunteers, and indicating that the problem was solved. It took a _long_ time to appear on the list. I mailed the kind hearted soul directly, rather than have to make them wait for the reply to show. Two of my posts yesterday, one to -user and one to -devel, took more than 45 minutes to come back to me. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: perl question
On Wednesday 17 July 2002 03:53 pm, Mike Egglestone wrote:
Hello...
Here's one for some of the perl guys
I want to delete a directory that will have files in it...
I don't know the name of the files there for wildcards might
be needed
I understand that rmdir will wipe out an empty directory
and unlink will wipe out files (only if I know the names of the files)
What would be a nice command to remove a dirtory that had files in it?
Even better what would be a nice command to delete all files
in one directory... (leaving the directory intact)
#! /usr/bin/perl -w
$dir = /path/to/dir;
opendir(DIR, $dir) or die can't opendir $dir: $!;
while ( defined ($file = readdir DIR) ) {
next if $file =~ /^\.\.?$/; # skip . and ..
unlink $file;
}
Quick and dirty, but I think it will delete all files in one directory.
Won't handle subdirs. Then you could probably just
close(DIR);
rmdir $dir;
to get rid of the directory.
--
Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr
All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
SNNS and Debian
Anyone have SNNS working with Debian? I can't get it to compile. First I had to manually define MAXFLOAT, which I think should have been defined in /usr/include/math.h.Then it fails with the following error. make[1]: Entering directory `/home/budr/src/snns-4.2/xgui/sources' gcc -I../.. -I../../kernel/sources -I../../xgui/iconsXgui -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -O -c ui_confirmer.c In file included from /usr/include/string.h:360, from /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Intrinsic.h:61, from ui.h:30, from ui_confirmer.c:23: /usr/include/bits/string2.h: In function `__strcpy_small': /usr/include/bits/string2.h:404: warning: empty declaration /usr/include/bits/string2.h:422: parse error before `=' /usr/include/bits/string2.h:425: parse error before `=' /usr/include/bits/string2.h:430: parse error before `=' /usr/include/bits/string2.h:435: parse error before `=' /usr/include/bits/string2.h:442: parse error before `=' /usr/include/bits/string2.h:444: parse error before `=' make[1]: *** [ui_confirmer.o] Error 1 I suspect if I find a kludge for this one something else will fail with an error pointing back to /usr/include. I have similar problems with billnet, another neural net package. It all makes me wonder if I'm missing a package that would have all the right defines for this type of application. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: [users] SNNS and Debian
On Saturday 07 July 2001 09:22 am, Martin F. Krafft wrote: also sprach Bud Rogers (on Sat, 07 Jul 2001 09:18:32AM -0500): Anyone have SNNS working with Debian? I can't get it to compile. have a look at the SNNS page - specifically at the bugs and bugfixes. this is a common problem, which has nothing to do with debian! Can't believe I overlooked that. Thanks. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: (OT) Perl books
On Thursday 28 June 2001 15:52, Michael Merten wrote: I got really good results from the Perl CD Bookshelf. It's worth every extra penny to have the (fully indexed) resources of 6 perl books available at the click of a browser button. I can heartily second that recommendation. After I bought Learning Perl and Programming Perl and the Cookbook, I found the CD Bookshelf. For the price of any two of O'Reilly's Perl books, you get five or six of them cross indexed and hyperlinked. Best money I've spent in a while. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Slink-Potato, Perl version
On Saturday 23 June 2001 08:44, Joost Kooij wrote: Performing large scale upgrades can be attempted using only apt-get, is in most cases asking for trouble. This is not a shortcoming in apt-get, it just doesn't have all the needed user interfaces to dependends management that dselect does. Use dselect, and configure it to use apt as its access method. Joost, Thanks for that long and informative post. I've saved it away for future reference. It definitely falls in the category of things I always wanted to know but didn't know how to ask. a little. But then I probably learnt my way to the first aid kit mostly from walking into the cutting edge so many times. And that little jewel goes in my favorite quotes file. :} -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Apache: Connection refused ...
On Thursday 14 June 2001 05:21, Dieter Schicker wrote: The installation worked fine and when I run Apache by the command apachectl start it says: httpd started. But when I do a ps aux the httpd is not listed. When I try to access Debian calls the executable apache, not httpd. Try this: ps ax | grep apache apache through a webserver (http://localhost/) it says Connection refused when trying to connect to dilino (which is the name I invented for my machine). Is there a problem with my ServerName directive? It's probably dying because it doesn't like something in httpd.conf. You might find some clues in /var/log/apache/error.log. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Slow server due to reverse lookup
On Monday 11 June 2001 05:38, Patrick Colbeck wrote: I am assuming that the server is doing a reverse lookup on all incoming tcp conections. Since the test lab has no DNS and the machines can have an ip address in a range that covers several thousand addresses (its a claa B network) I really don't want to type all the ip addresses into the hosts file with dummy names. Is there anyway to turn of the reverse lookup and make life easier as this is a secure network not connected to the Internet ? You probably want to take dns out of /etc/host.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf. Both have good man pages that will explain what you need to do. You might also want to set up NIS. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: FYI : LINUX Users Tutorial and Exposition
On Wednesday 06 June 2001 15:34, will trillich wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:17:59AM +0200, Lambrecht, Joris wrote: To those who are looking for some tutorial-reference-resource on the Linux Operating System, have a look at ... http://rute.sourceforge.net LINUX Rute Users Tutorial and Exposition.url okay, what the heck does RUTE stand for? :) awesome project, by the way. nice job! Looks like another one of those recursive acronyms like GNU's Not Unix... -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: cdrom?cdburner?
On Sunday 03 June 2001 11:42, Leonard Leblanc wrote: According to my knowledge, you can only mount a cd-rom drive if there actually is a cd in there. I wouldn't suggest putting it in /etc/fstab unless you are always planning on leaving a cd in the drive. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep cdrom /etc/fstab /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 00 -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: abbreviations for non-native english speakers
On Thursday 31 May 2001 16:06, will trillich wrote: 73? click, ruffle, ruffle, click... aha. acronymfinder.com sez it's from amateur/ham radio! Yup, goes way back, to morse code days. Shorthad for Best wishes. 73 is _ _ . . . . . . _ _ in morse code. The symmetrical pattern of dots and dashes makes a catchy little rhythm. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Ben at okstate.edu?
Strictly speaking this is OT for the list. I beg everyone's indulgence. I'm pretty sure I have seen a regular on this list or one other whose name is Ben who has both an acm.org and an okstate.edu address. I would like to get in touch with that Ben off list. I don't have either address in my address book and a quick search of the list archives didn't turn up anything. Ben, would you email me off list? I would like to ask a small favor. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: New ... please help
On Sunday 20 May 2001 17:39, mr matsui wrote: From: Vivek Dasmohapatra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. does Debian support USB mouse ... if yes ... how could i configure it ... ? I would appreciate any advice I can get I've just done this, but I'm running 2.4.2, cant say if it will work with a debian kernel 2.2.19, give it a try ! I have a Logitech Trackman Marble USB on a Debian stable system with a 2.2.19 kernel. Works beautifully. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: ftp.isc.org refusing connections
On Monday 14 May 2001 03:01, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 01:59:30PM -0500, Bud Rogers wrote: Thought I would download the latest bind sources. ftp.isc.org is refusing connections. Are they down or has my reputation preceeded me? From www.isc.org: ISC's FTP server is temporarily unavailable. We regret any inconvenience this has caused. You may retrieve ISC software from one of many ISC mirror sites. Thank you, Mirek. Rather too late I thought of trying one of the mirror sites. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: IPMasqing NFS
On Monday 14 May 2001 17:07, Chris Majewski wrote: I'm going through a gateway/firewall which does port forwarding / ipmasq / NAT / ... Isn't VPN just microsoft terminology for exactly that, or is it something else? I think VPN implies end to end encryption as well. And I think M$ calls it something else. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: debian newbie questions -- security
On Sunday 13 May 2001 11:52, Alexander Steinert wrote: 3) I want to have a system that is as secure as possible without sacrificing usability. Where can I get good guidance on securing Debian? I Not only for that you might want to take a look at http://www.infodrom.ffis.de/Debian/doc/index.html Sorry I missed the original post. The Securing Debian manual is excellent. http://www.debian.org/doc/admin-manuals#securing -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
ftp.isc.org refusing connections
Thought I would download the latest bind sources. ftp.isc.org is refusing connections. Are they down or has my reputation preceeded me? -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: rsync+ssh problem
On Monday 07 May 2001 05:32, Peter O. Fedichev wrote: remotelogin]# rsync -avz -e ssh / [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup bash: rsync: command not found unexpected EOF in read_timeout I had to add a PATH line to ~/.ssh/environment on the remote host because rsync was not in the standard path. There is a section in the ssh man page about setting the environment. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Dialup script question
On Monday 07 May 2001 20:53, Kieren Diment wrote: My computer connects to the internet with the following dialup script at the moment: pon sleep 45s fetchmail I would like to get rid of the line sleep 45s and replace it with a command that starts up the fetchmail process once pon has successfully negotiated a connection to the internet (my understanding is that this is when the DNS is registered. What would I put in line two to do this? When pppd successfully establishes a connection, it runs /etc/ppp/ip-up. ip-up calls run-parts on everything in /etc/ppp/up-up.d. I just put this little script in there. It starts fetchmail as a daemon and retrieves my mail every 5 minutes. #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/fetchmail -d 300 -L /var/log/fetchmail Then in /etc/ppp/ip-down.d, this one kills fetchmail when the ppp connection goes down. #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/fetchmail -quit Seems to work pretty well. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Configuring gnus
On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:45, Johann Spies wrote: I have decided to try out gnus again. In some way or another I got so far that I can read my old mail files and I am composing this mail using gnus. The documentation is not always very clear to me. 6. My request: I would appreciate examples of the .gnus-file. I could not find any in the documentation. Hi Johann, I used gnus for both mail and news for a long time and loved it. I can relate to your situation. Gnus can be customized in almost infinite ways. Getting it just like you want it is almost always possible, but not always obvious. I can't answer your questions directly, but I can point you to a couple of valuable resources if you haven't found them already. Lars Ingebrigtsen has a web site devoted to gnus. Have a look at www.gnus.org. The resources link will lead you to some tutorials, sample .gnus files, and the gnus mailing list. I highly recommend the mailing list. It's not high traffic and the regulars are friendly and helpful. I never asked a question there that didn't get a useful answer, and I never got flamed for asking a dumb question. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: cron: nth weekday of month?
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: I've got a job I'd like to run once a month, on a set day of the week, say, the first Sunday of the month. Suggestions as to how to do this with cron? Could you wrap the job in a shell scrip? Run the script from cron every Sunday. Have the script check if the date is within the first seven days of the month. If so run the job, else exit quietly. Not very elegant, but it would get the job done. -- Bud Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
