Re: customizing the menu bar
Perhaps alt-right click Charles On Mar 11, 2012 12:38 PM, abdelkader belahcene abelahc...@gmail.com wrote: hi, i tried the testing version wheezy, which runs gnome3. i want to customize the menu bar by adding a button ( the arrow on left or right on gnome2) to hide or show the bar. often i want to use entire screen, the bar disturb me. please where can i do it? the right click on the bar is disabled.?? thanks for help regards
Re: Desktop icons missing
Dear Kai: I am the OP and you are correct. The issue is that after doing the wheezy update, all the desktop icons are missing, that is, those items defined in ~/Desktop for the normal user do not appear anymore and I am trying to get back to seeing them on the desktop with gnome classic at this point. I see the same effect with just gnome, only there are other things which bother me, but for now, I am trying to understand how the display of items in the users home directory ~/Desktop/ which all still exist and are displayed with other window managers have disappeared in gnome classic. I do have a gnome-panel panel and I can manipulate it to some extent. Meaning I have an application item, my several virtual desktops which I can rename normally, the clock and a few other goodies. The key right now is the missing desktop items causes me to have to navigate a menu if I want a terminal which is a bit annoying. Additionally, I have a few PDF files, a file browser, internet browser and a couple of source files I refer to regularly and being able to click on them on the desktop is quite convenient. I would expect that the window manager should read the users ~/Desktop/ directory as it has before, so my question two goes to How does this work in gnome now? so I can navigate myself to an understanding. I am also trying to use this as a opportunity to understand the window manager a bit more. I am a software developer and have worked in Linux for many years, but have not dug into the details of window managers as all my work is in developing embedded designs with ARM, PowerPC, MIPS, so I am a user of desktops but not a developer of desktops. Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALo-6+jt9noC4128MhM2ECc=o02q2jsbsk1r6tlvsh_4vpt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Dear Frank: Maybe my issue is I dont quite get what you are saying. There is no gconf-editor program. I can see a gconftool program, but dont know how to enable the Desktop programs to be displayed or even if this is the right tool. So, I guess the question is no, we didnt quite deal with this. I would merely appreciate enough understanding to get to where I can make gnome classic useful useful in wheezy so I dont have to change distributions. All the other window managers are worse. This is the only one close enough to be useful and it is hobbled. Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 03/03/12 12:33 PM, Charles Krinke wrote: Dear Kai: I am the OP and you are correct. The issue is that after doing the wheezy update, all the desktop icons are missing, that is, those items defined in ~/Desktop for the normal user do not appear anymore and I am trying to get back to seeing them on the desktop with gnome classic at this point. I see the same effect with just gnome, only there are other things which bother me, but for now, I am trying to understand how the display of items in the users home directory ~/Desktop/ which all still exist and are displayed with other window managers have disappeared in gnome classic. I do have a gnome-panel panel and I can manipulate it to some extent. Meaning I have an application item, my several virtual desktops which I can rename normally, the clock and a few other goodies. The key right now is the missing desktop items causes me to have to navigate a menu if I want a terminal which is a bit annoying. Additionally, I have a few PDF files, a file browser, internet browser and a couple of source files I refer to regularly and being able to click on them on the desktop is quite convenient. I would expect that the window manager should read the users ~/Desktop/ directory as it has before, so my question two goes to How does this work in gnome now? so I can navigate myself to an understanding. I am also trying to use this as a opportunity to understand the window manager a bit more. I am a software developer and have worked in Linux for many years, but have not dug into the details of window managers as all my work is in developing embedded designs with ARM, PowerPC, MIPS, so I am a user of desktops but not a developer of desktops. Didn't we just deal with this ? If you're running gnome-classic, the desktop icons are handled by nautilus. Gnome 3 doesn't have desktop icons -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f5263c9.6020...@videotron.ca -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calo-6+gzhxl--s8fve12kztz_-nua6hx6aqgzyfkfrq5aym...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Dear Frank: Thank you very much for working with me. I was able to run nautilus -n, logoug and log back in. I was also able to run gconf-editor and find apps/nautilus/preferences, but in there there are five settings and none is show desktop. Although I can see things that relate to the desktop such as desktop_font, there is no show desktop. I did create the key show_desktop and set it. But upon logging out and back in, there is still no desktop. Perhaps there is one more step? Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 03/03/12 01:48 PM, Charles Krinke wrote: Dear Frank: Maybe my issue is I dont quite get what you are saying. There is no gconf-editor program. I can see a gconftool program, but dont know how to enable the Desktop programs to be displayed or even if this is the right tool. Didn't we just deal with this ? If you're running gnome-classic, the desktop icons are handled by nautilus. Gnome 3 doesn't have desktop icons If you are running Gnome-classic, AND there are desktop files in ~/Desktop, go into a terminal and run nautilus -n. You then should have desktop icons. Log out, and log back in. They should be there still. If it doesn't work, in a terminal window again run gconf-editor. look in the /apps/nautilus/preferences key. Make sure show_desktop is checked. exit gconf-editor. You should have icons on the desktop. If you don't have the gconf-editor in a root terminal run aptitude install gconf-editor That's what works here in gnome-classic. -- Cheers Frank -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calo-6+h2p0yukqbzyszecbyxcawppc8tq4tsnleayjhj-vd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Ok. Well, I thought it would be interesting to update squeeze to wheezy, but it looks like wheezy is not ready enough for prime time. I will annoy myself with missing desktop icons for a while and then perhaps move back to squeeze if it does not find a resolution. I thought testing for wheezy would move smoothly with this mailing list. Perhaps the folks that change things like this in wheezy dont even read this list. Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 03/03/12 03:42 PM, Charles Krinke wrote: Thank you very much for working with me. I was able to run nautilus -n, logoug and log back in. I was also able to run gconf-editor and find apps/nautilus/preferences, but in there there are five settings and none is show desktop. Although I can see things that relate to the desktop such as desktop_font, there is no show desktop. Well that is strange, there are about 15 preferences to set in my gconf-editor..including show_desktop. I did create the key show_desktop and set it. But upon logging out and back in, there is still no desktop. There obviously is something missing in your installation but I don't know what it (they) is (are?) Perhaps there is one more step? Not that I know of. -- Cheers Frank -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calo-6+hfp3ixhwkg8ve9+mkmspxdrjh4g+gxsnttlbdwdjt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Dear Frank: That was it, thanks for the link. Now all the desktop icons are back. I did google first before I asked this list, but as in much googling one needs a string that gets useful data out of the noise, and you found such a string. Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: On 03/03/12 03:42 PM, Charles Krinke wrote: X If you are running Gnome-classic, AND there are desktop files in ~/Desktop, go into a terminal and run nautilus -n. You then should have desktop icons. Log out, and log back in. They should be there still. If it doesn't work, in a terminal window again run gconf-editor. look in the /apps/nautilus/preferences key. Make sure show_desktop is checked. exit gconf-editor. You should have icons on the desktop. If you don't have the gconf-editor in a root terminal run aptitude install gconf-editor That's what works here in gnome-classic. I just spent 30 secs googling the problem - this MAY BE your solution. It's worth trying. Remember GOOGLE is your friend. http://www.pc-freak.net/blog/how-to-make-gnome-3-desktop-icons-to-work-as-in-gnome-2-on-debian-gnu-linux/ -- Cheers Frank -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALo-6+i1dC85J_ocPPSOdmUaYTfZ3iSbW=mfdkyujfKnRqDú@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Thank you Cameleon, it is working now. I appreciate your advice in working through this. Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:16:39 -0800, Charles Krinke wrote: Ok. Well, I thought it would be interesting to update squeeze to wheezy, but it looks like wheezy is not ready enough for prime time. I wonder what's your understanding of primetime. Testing is what its name indicates, a testing and rollover (at least until it gets freezed) distribution that changes continuously. And to be sincere, at this right moment is very usable. I will annoy myself with missing desktop icons for a while and then perhaps move back to squeeze if it does not find a resolution. Are you still missing the icons in your desktop? Wow... sir, this has been answered already. I thought testing for wheezy would move smoothly with this mailing list. If you can't cope with your desktop icons maybe you should consider using the stable branch. Perhaps the folks that change things like this in wheezy dont even read this list. Or maybe is that you have to spend more time reading the list or searching the web ;-). This topic is very recurrent (since a year or so) and has been answered many, many, many times. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jiu2g0$q2j$1...@dough.gmane.org -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALo-6+gHBO3jjmyqQCUhGvdkrhjXsyMYztw-71c615=n4ea...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Desktop icons missing
Thank you kindly, Selim, that is a good tip also. I think we can safely close this thread. Charles On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu wrote: Charles Krinke, 3.03.2012: I do have a gnome-panel panel and I can manipulate it to some extent. Meaning I have an application item, my several virtual desktops which I can rename normally, the clock and a few other goodies. The key right now is the missing desktop items causes me to have to navigate a menu if I want a terminal which is a bit annoying. Additionally, I have a few PDF files, a file browser, internet browser and a couple of source files I refer to regularly and being able to click on them on the desktop is quite convenient. As far as I could see, you now have your desktop items displaying fine but I'm not sure that your second question was solved: how to find out what programs are run when you select items from the menu and how to conveniently run these without going through the menu. Here in gnome classic on sid, I can go to the menu item I want and push down the left mouse button, without releasing it (half click?). Then I move the mouse around a little and I can carry the application icon to the gnome-panel, and release. Once it's there, I can right click to see the properties, including what program it runs. (To remove it from the panel, I can alt-right click on it.) You can also use this method to carry the icon onto your desktop instead of your gnome-panel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120303233205.gb13...@cs.utexas.edu -- Charles Krinke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calo-6+h0y-msahurn+zv6qu6o67w+h+elap-tgtp2qjbpil...@mail.gmail.com
Desktop icons missing
I have two related questions after updating to wheezy today. 1. Gnome classic desktop displays no desktop icons. That is, the launchers from ~/Desktop/ do not display. Is there a way to caues them to display? I have temporarily changed to XFCE and the icons from ~/Desktop/ now display properly, but I would like to use gnome-classic. 2. How can I examine the menu items to find where the underlying programs they call are and are named? I have not yet come to an understanding of how this part worsks. Charles On Mar 1, 2012 8:02 PM, Bijoy Lobo bijoy.l...@paladion.net wrote: Hello Everyone, Is there a way where i can only assign a few binaries to user like, su - ls ? I do not want him to access anything else from /bin or /usr/local/bin -- Thanks and Regards Bijoy Lobo
Re: How do I debug kernel panic that occurs while running X?
On the next boot, /var/log/messages shoild contain the last printk's from the kernel which would include any panic. So, one should be able to tail /var/log messages and see what the kernel did at the time of the freeze. Remembdr that the fresh boot is appendex to /var/log/messages, so you need to scroll back a hundred lines or so. Charles On Mar 1, 2012 8:41 PM, Brendon Higgins blhigg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, For the better part of a year, now, something has been causing my machine to freeze. The mouse stops moving on the screen, pressing any key (including keys that should toggle lights) does nothing. The freezes are intermittent, without warning, and I've been unable to determine if there is any particular cause. I think the kernel is panicking, but I can't tell for sure. I don't think it caused by my hardware, either, because a Windows 7 install (Wintendo) seems to operate fine. The problem has never happened while I've been using the console, mostly because I'm there very rarely and I do the vast majority of my work in X. It's a desktop machine, after all. If it weren't for the fact of X being in the way when this happens, I might be far closer to finding the root cause of the problem I'm seeing. But the fact that I am unable to get any information at all from the kernel when the freeze occurs means I haven't been able to get anywhere with it in all this time. And yet it happens about once every few days. It's terrifically frustrating. I tried to get kdump working. I got as far as getting kexec running, and kdump claims to successfully load its kernel, but when I either manually cause a test panic or the bug happens, the kernel fails to start new, and so kdump never gets a chance to do its thing. kexec works fine to perform a regular restart the machine, though - which is irritating, actually, because it gets in the way when I wish to reboot into Wintendo. This issue is actually beginning to cause me some distress. There must be a way to extract panic info when X is running - how would the graphics driver writers debug things, otherwise? So does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can make some progress on diagnosing this? I'd appreciate being CC'd on replies, as I'm not sub'd to the list. Thanks! Peace, Brendon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201203012323.50867.blhigg...@gmail.com
