Re: ide disks > 8.4gb
> From: Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... I hope someone who knows the inerds of fdisk ... ^^ Aren't we all? (I(nternet)-nerds, that is) :-) Daniel
Re: hard disks more than 8gb
> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:29:22 -0500 (CDT) > CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > From: Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Daniel Barclay said: > > > From: Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Fdisk reported my 17.2 maxtor (which the bios > > > sizes as about 16.8gb, so maxtor lies a little). > > > > Why are so many computer users so ignorant of international > > standards? > > What do international standards have to do with it? That's where the definition that the giga- and G prefixes mean 10^9 comes from. > I doubt that this is > due to one source using G = 10^9 and the other using G = 2^30; But it is. Haven't you heard the every-so-often arguments about this (that drive manufacturers "lie" by people who forget that computer users are approximating when we use G to mean 2^30 instead of 10^9)? > any disk > loses some of its (theoretical) capacity when formatted because the > format itself is data and uses some of that capacity. 'Losing' 0.4G out > of a 17G drive sounds about right. The difference is not that. (The drive manufacturers aren't stating an unformatted capacity (as diskettes sometimes still mention); they're telling you how much capacity there is for you to use.) Daniel
Re: hard disks more than 8gb
> From: Kenneth Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fdisk reported my 17.2 maxtor (which the bios > sizes as about 16.8gb, so maxtor lies a little). Why are so many computer users so ignorant of international standards? Daniel
Re: How to fully utilise a 10 GB harddisk
> From: Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [WinNT] ... cannot install onto a partition larger > than two gigs That can't be right. I created, formatted, and installed onto a 4GB partition with Windows NT. Daniel
Re: allowing simpler passwords
> From: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marc Mongeon wrote: > > : How do I disable the password-checking feature of passwd? I'm willing > : to accept moderately complex passwords that passwd wants to throw > : out. `man passwd` gives me nothing, and I'm not certain where else to > : look-- is this the doings of PAM? > RTFM passwd.c; ^^ (The source code is not the FM.) > passwd tries to prevent lusers from > using crappy passwords. This is generally accepted as a feature. Features should be controllable by the system administrator. > : It is particularly annoying because it reminds me of the Windows design > : philosophy: "I know better than you do what you're trying to do." > > Windows lets you ignore passwords altogether and isn't really known as a > secure OS ... How does Windows' unsecurability diminish the undesirability of the design philosophy mentioned above? Daniel
Re: Why does kdebase depend on xdm? Right way to disable xdm?
> From: Takanori Suzuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > kdebase doen't depend on xdm. > > dpkg --status kdebase > Package: kdebase ... > Version: 4:1.1.1-19990822-1 > Depends: menu (>= 1.5-5), kdelibs2g (>= 4:1.1.1-19990817-1), libc6 (>= 2.1), > libjpeg62, libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), libpng2, libstdc++2.10, > libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1, libtiff3g, qt1g (>= 1.44-4), xlib6g (>= 3.3.3.1-1), > xpm4g (>= 3.4j-0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), rman, xfree86-common ... Mine does: $ dpkg --status kdebase Package: kdebase .. Version: 4:1.1.1-19990424-1 Depends: menu (>= 1.5-5), kdelibs2g (>= 4:1.1.1-19990424-1), libc6, libjpeg62, libncurses4, libpng2, libstdc++2.9, libtiff3g, mesag3, qt1g (>= 1.42-2), xlib6g (>= 3.3.2.3a-2), xpm4g (>= 3.4j-0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.3), xdm ... Does anyone know if maybe ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1.1/distribution/deb/ not an active archive site? Daniel
Why does kdebase depend on xdm? Right way to disable xdm?
Can anyone tell me why the kdebase package depends on xdm? Also, what's the "right" way to display xdm without removing the package? (I want to try out KDE, but don't want to use xdm.) Thanks, Daniel
Re: /dev/fd0 erased
> From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ... I managed to "rm /dev/fd0". Now although > "locate" still shows it as existing ... Remember that locate displays only cached information. Daniel
Re: Time disparity between system time and netscape
> From: Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi all: > > I just noticed that when I post, the time of the posted message > is 5 hours behind what my system time is. I have the computer I > reading mail on behind another debian (2.1) machine that has IP > masquerading set up. Could this be affecting it? That sounds like a time-zone problem. Do you happen to be in the US eastc-coast time zone? Daniel
Re: Netscape
> From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i've heard vague rumors that it's some interaction between Netscape and > the libc6-based X libraries and the egcs compilers used to compile them > all... (which could explain why the libc5 version of Netscape doesn't show > this problem?) For me, the libc5 version still has plenty of problems. Daniel
Re: Netscape
> From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Here's a question: does anyone's NS handle large combo boxes in HTML > forms correctly? Whenever I need to select an item off a very large > combo box (like states in an online order form: multiple popup windows > created), my keyboard stops working, at least within NS. This has been > consistent over different Window Managers and versions of NS. I haven't had any trouble with that. (FVWM2) Daniel
additinoal Netscape symtoms - XmScrollBar size warning
Another Netscape Communicator symbol I see not infrequently is this warning: Warning: Name: hscroll Class: XmScrollBar The scrollbar minimum value is greater than or equal to the scrollbar maximum value. Warning: Name: hscroll Class: XmScrollBar Specified slider size is greater than the scrollbar maximum value minus the scrollbar minimum value. I don't recall if this only happens when I resize a new window before Communicator has retrieved the data and drawn the contents, or if it happens otherwise too. Daniel
additional Netscape error symptoms - Xlib: unexpected async reply
Has anyone else seen this problem? Sometimes Communicator will pop up an error message window so small that the only thing visible is the window manager's frame around it. When I expand the window, it has about a dozen copies the following message: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence xxx), Netscape: subprocess diagnostics (stdout/stderr) This is inevitably followed by another vanishingly small window, with another bunch of the same type of message. Communicator quickly proceeds to becoming unresponsive. (I think sometimes I can quit and get any changes (e.g., bookmarks) saved before it jams up.) Daniel
Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
> From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > .. > > > That's the choice Debian offers: a rock-solid system with _slightly_ > > > out-of-date software (although you're free to upgrade it), or a > > > state-of-the-art system with all the bugs inherent in the bleeding edge. > > > > But why not build the latest-and-greatest version of add-on packages > > against BOTH the stable and the latest-and-greatest unstable > > distribution? > > > > Then later versions of software (even if they're not long-tested > > and stable) could be run on the stable distribution. > > Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a stable distribution? Not at all. I don't know how you misunderstood. The stable distribution would be the same as it is (e.g., with an older glibc and other base system files, and applications). The unstable distribution would be the same as it is (with new version of everything). The addition would be new versions of packages compiled against core libraries in the stable distribution (instead of against the unstable distribution). Then instead of having two choices, everything stable but aged, or everything new but unstable, one could try current (even if unstable) versions of a few packages without having to upgrade the ENTIRE system to unstable. > If you want the > latest, go with unstable, that's what it's there for No, it's there to provide the latest _whole system_. > ..Or if you want > to mix and match, feel free to grab the debian sources and build the > packages yourself. Yeah, that's something I need to learn to do. > > Note that that's what various other sites (Gnome, someone's KDE site, > > etc.) provide--recent individual software that doesn't require > > the more recent, unstable distribution. > > That's their perrogative. Look, do you people want Debian to be used or not? Do you know how many references I've seen recently that mention that Debian is farther behind (in versions of packages available) than other distributions? Daniel
Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Oops, sorry everyone, I messed up. > > I have tried deleting my ~/.netscape/cookie file, but it reappeared a while > later, just like the original. Where did it get that info from? Were you still running Netscape or had you exited when you deleted the file? Daniel
Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
> From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .. > That's the choice Debian offers: a rock-solid system with _slightly_ > out-of-date software (although you're free to upgrade it), or a > state-of-the-art system with all the bugs inherent in the bleeding edge. But why not build the latest-and-greatest version of add-on packages against BOTH the stable and the latest-and-greatest unstable distribution? Then later versions of software (even if they're not long-tested and stable) could be run on the stable distribution. Note that that's what various other sites (Gnome, someone's KDE site, etc.) provide--recent individual software that doesn't require the more recent, unstable distribution. Daniel
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
> From: egm2@jps.net > > Netscape-smotif-4.08 is the only reliable version I've found. It's not reliable here. I don't seem to have the window-closing problem you all are talking about, but it still hangs (100% CPU, seemingly Java- related) and crashes. (On slink, glibc 2.0.7.) Daniel
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
> From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >i was trying to find a pattern among the info people posted but couldn't > > >really see one. did anyone else figure this out? > > > > > >- p2-266 128mb ram > > >- kernel 2.2.9 > > >- glibc 2.1.1-13 > > > > It's the glibc from unstable. > > but i thought there were several posts from people claiming that "it worked > just fine for them" and they were using glibc 2.1? And Netscape crashes all over glibc 2.0 too. Daniel
Re: why so much hate?
> From: Bryan Scaringe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > [dselet] must be able > to run on ANY debian system, including 386 -class machines with > black-and-white terminals and no X Windows. ... > I haven't used [the GTK front-end] > myself, so I can't really say if it's any more "user-friendly". Being a text-mode program is NOT deselect's problem with not being user-friendly. Daniel
poor fonts in Netscape - need more X fonts? xfs? resource setting?
Besides all the other problems I've been having with this unreliable piece of crap called Netscape (Communicator), I'm having problem with fonts that are scaled to a size where they are extremely blocky. What is strange is that if I change the font size preferences, the blocky fonts don't change at all. For example on http://www.etrade.com/, the text of the left-hand list of links (e.g., Stocks & Optinos, IPOs, etc.) shows up in a very blocky font. (Everything else on the page shows up cleanly.) Changing either (or both) of the variable-width and fixed-width fonts sizes affects _nothing_ on that page. I thought that those settings set the screen font size to use to display default-sized (, I think) HTML fonts, AND also adjusted the screen font sizes to use to display shrunken (e.g., ) and enlarged (e.g., ) HTML fonts. (That is, fonts shrunk from the default were displayed with a larger screen font, but it was still smaller than the now-larger screen font used for default-sized HTML text.) (This is currently with Communicator 4.08, but 4.61 and 4.51 seemed to be the same.) Are web sites increasingly screwing around with fonts in non-standard ways, or is something screwed up (or just not loaded right) on my machine? I think I have the normal X11 fonts installed on my system. Should that be enough? Or do I need special fonts? Do I need xfs? Is there anything else I need (besides an H-bomb to remove a number of these computer-related frustrations from my environment)? Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Re: Just my opinion
> From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > Then again, can you name an OS with better documentation... VMS. Solaris (or at least SunOS 5 years ago). Both have (or at least had) a bookshelf full of documentation. Look, arguing that the documentation isn't as bad as, say Windows', doesn't make up for the deficiencies that do exist. If you want new people to use Linux and Debian, you need to recognize the problems that the new users complain about and fix them. Daniel
Re: .bash_profile never read in X
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink) > One thing that has bugged me ever since I switched to gdm: my > .bashrc and .bash_profile files are never read. Isn't one problem that when one starts the X server using startx, applications (e.g., xterm) are not started with the same environment that existed in the shell from which the X server started? That is, if you manually (not in a startup script) modify the PATH environment variable in a shell on a virtual console, start X using startx from that shell, and bring up a shell in an xterm (including automatically), the modification to the PATH variable is no longer in effect. I assume this is a result of running the X server with special privileges and resetting PATH for safety. However, can't the X startup scripts save PATH (and anything else reset) and restore the value before the xinitrc script is run and by the time menus can be used to run things? That would follow Unix's normal inheritance of environment settings in subprocesses. Is there any reason this can't be done? (Note that you don't necessarily want to re-read .bash_profile when you start an xterm. You might want to inherit environmental modifications that overrode the original settings from .bash_profile.) Daniel --- End of forwarded message ---
Re: Netscape bookmark-rearranging crashing IDENTIFIED, possibly
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Have you ever considered editing the .netscape/bookmarks.html file by hand? Sometimes, but for other kinds of editing. (Sorting out bookmarks involves traversing to the bookmarked page, which of course is easier right in the bookmarks windows--except when it crashes, of course.) Daniel
Netscape bug-reporting address FOUND!
In case anyone else ever needs it, I finally found the Netscape bug-reporting form, at http://help.netscape.com/forms/bug-client.html. (Tomorrow I'll see if I can check if the bug appears on Solaris.) Daniel
Netscape bookmark-rearranging crashing IDENTIFIED, possibly
I think I have determined that the bookmark-rearranging crashes are a hard (non-intermittent) bug in Netscape's code: It can't seem to handle updating the Bookmarks Properties window if you click on any Bookmarks window line after dragging a separator. A GGGH H ! A AG G H H ! A A G H ! A G GG H H ! A A G G H H A AGGGH H ! How many THOUSANDS of times has Netscape crashed on me because of this? How many HOURS of work (trying to rearrange bookmarks) has this destroyed? How much frustration has this caused? (Well no, it doesn't explain the Java-related crashes, the plain hanging (where it doesn't service expose events), the taking over the keyboard and mouse, the corruption of the bookmarks file if a bookmark contains just the wrong combination of characters (I sure wish I knew whose web-page title caused it), and all the other crap, but could it be, maybe, just MAYBE, that I have found the bug that has caused me SO MUCH aggravation the last couple of years? I bet I'm the only one who has encountered the problem because I'm such a pack rat with my bookmarks. I bookmark all sorts of things when I'm looking around, and then later I go back and sort out the mess. I edit the bookmark names, create a lot of folders and separators, and drag a lot of things around. The key is the editing step. When I open the Bookmarks Properties window, I leave it open to make it easier to edit the next bookmark. I bet Netscape's testers (no, I don't _know_ that they have any, but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt) and the rest of you don't edit bookmarks that way. So, to verify that this is a specific Netscape problem (vs. a local problem caused by my local configuration or by the exact state of my bookmarks file or something), could some of you try the following on your various versions of Netscape (Communicator) and see if you get any crashes? ** Be sure to exit and start fresh so that if it crashes you won't lose any recently changed information (like bookmark edits). *** - start Netscape Communicator - open up the bookmarks window - select (click on) a regular bookmark and open the Bookmark Properties window - leaving the Bookmark Properties window open, drag a separator to move it up or down - click on any (other?) Bookmarks window line (whether bookmark, folder, or separator) - this is where it crashes for me Recently, I've gotten crashes on: - Debianized version 4.07 - plain version 4.08, with LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgnumalloc.so - plain version 4.61, with LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libgnumalloc.so - Debianized version 4.5 (I think) I'm on what I think is a pretty vanilla slink system (upgraded from hamm). Also, could those of you with access to Netscape on non-Linux Unix systems try it too, to confirm that the problem is in Netscape (vs. peculiar to Linux)? Thanks. So, how do I report this bug to Netscape? Ever since they put up that stupid Netscape Netcenter, it's been virtually impossible to find product information (such as a bug-reporting address). Daniel, exhausted
Re: Netscape: rearranging bookmarks crashes extremely frequently, especially working with separators
Yohanes Santoso wrote: > > Hi, > > I was just wondering if you are using the correct libc library. I am > using libc-2.0.7 and Navigator 4.5; the Navigator seems stable. However, > about last month, I tried upgrading my libc to libc-2.1.x and that caused > Navigator to crash almost everytime. Then, at that time, I realised that > Navigator is not linked to libc-2.1.x yet. I'm using 2.0: $ dpkg --list libc6 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- hi libc6 2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: shared libraries Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hmm. A little worrisome: http://www.junkbusters.com/cgi-bin/privacy http://www.anonymizer.com/snoop.cgi )
Netscape: rearranging bookmarks crashes extremely frequently, especially working with separators
For those of you dealing with Netscape Communicator crashes, have any of you encountered frequent crashing when you are rearranging bookmarks (dragging bookmarks around, and editing names), especially right after creating separators? (On version 4.08, Netscape installer, with manually-created libgnumalloc wrapper; version 4.51, Debian installer; and version 4.61, Netscape installer, with manual wrapper.) The high density of such crashes that I've been getting today and recently makes me wonder if the Motif library with which Netscape is linked is..um...a frustrating piece of crap. Something certainly is. Do we know if it's Netscape? Motif? (or a motif clone?) X11? something else? (Also, has the problem been reported back to the source of whichever software is a fault? Or has this case not been seen frequently and not been reported yet?) Daniel
Re: Switch console in xterm
> From: "Remco van 't Veer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Use the -X switch. > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 20:06, Daniel Barclay wrote: > > > > From: David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > ... > > > ... less uses > > > the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl > > > and a mouse button ... > > > > Can that behavior of less be turned off? Thanks, Daniel
Re: Switch console in xterm
> From: David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's > why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from > less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses > the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl > and a mouse button ... Can that behavior of less be turned off? Daniel
Re: Switch console in xterm
> From: David Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > Well there's also the concept of an Alternate Screen in xterm. That's > why you don't see, for example, the last screenfull of output from > less when you quit, but just your interactive commands. less uses > the alternate screen, and you can switch back and forth with Ctrl > and a mouse button ... Can that behavior of less be turned off? Daniel
Re: Java development under Debian
> From: Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... > On 9 Apr 1999, Gary L. Hennigan wrote: > > > ... how do I install > > them so that I don't have to explicitly list the jar files in a > > classpath... > > Put them where they should be, then add the files to the appropriate > /var/lib/dpkg/info/java-pkg.list file. The "convention" is so that the > package manager knows about the files, manually adding them to the .list > accomplishes that. How will that help? None of those files sets the class path. Daniel
Re: Documentation suggestion (was Re: Slink upgrade and xwindows)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 3/22/99 10:21:50 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL > PROTECTED] > labs.com writes: > > > > Force of habit, I suppose Maybe it's time to remove the man pages for > > > those programs that also have info pages, eh? > > > > Don't remove the manpages. And don't start an "info vs. man" war, either, > > please! > > > > I've no intention of starting a flame war - but the fact remains, if the man > pages are no longer being supported by developers, there's no sense including > them in the man pages package. It just adds to the confusion. ^ Not when they point to the info pages (or other documentation). Daniel
Re: primenet.com rejects mail from ibm.net
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The second way is that ISP's are not allowing their dialup IP addresses > from making direct conntections on port 25 to IP addresses outside of > their network. It is a simple router configuration and all IP addresses > are blocked from outbound port 25 connections. That sounds like the ISP is not providing full Internet connectivity (breach of contract?). Daniel
Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> From: "Lewis, James M. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It depends on which def of 1k you use. I suspect the > linux utilities use 1024=1k. Read the fine print to see what the drive > manufacturer uses for 1k. They don't need any fine print. There's a global standard for what "k" and "kilo" mean. _We_ (computer users) need to remember that we're the ones being imprecise (borrowing terminology but then being imprecise). Daniel
Re: Which Kernal supports over 6.0 GB HD
> I've experienced the same with a supposedly ~4.3GB seagate, which both the > BIOS and Linux read as 4.1GB... your guess makes a lot of sense, and its > consequence is that we're being fooled by HDD manufacturers. No, you're not. You're just not paying attention to how we computer users use the SI prefix "giga" imprecisely, and to the fact that disk capacities aren't inherently tied to powers of two they way memory capacities are (through address bus widths). Remember that there's the real (SI standard) "kilo" (1000) and our binary "kilo" (1024) prefix, the real "mega" and a fully binary "mega" (along with a hybrid), and the real "giga" and fully binary "giga" (and two hydrids). Daniel
bplay doesn't play whole file (but works for higher speeds)
Is anyone aware of the cause of or solution for this problem? bplay frequently plays only part of a sound file. On one particular sound file, a 8000Hz sample, bplay played the whole sample if I specified a playback rate higher than 8000Hz. Daniel
AAGGHH! Netscape installer package screws with how command works
I just discovered why the netscape command no longer runs a separate version of Netscape (which I wanted in order to prevent crashes triggered by one web page from killing my main Netscape process displaying other web pages): Instead of just tracking installed files and wrapping environment setup, the Debian installer package for Netscape also _significantly_ changes how the netscape command works--it uses the "-remote" option, whether you want it to or not. That might usually be a nice feature, but the installer doesn't give you any way to get at the original command (without ignoring everything else in the wrapper script). More importantly, there is NO appropriate documentation of this change from how the original program works. There is no Debian.readme file (of changes from how the standard Netscape distribution works). There is no manual page. (The package's Debian change log file does mention this "feature", but one shouldn't have to look through a history of every change to piece together information on the current state.) Daniel
Netscape instability (hangs, crashes); is netscape4-4.0_12 installer compatible with 4.05?
AAGGHHH!! How you get Netscape to work reliably on a hamm-based Debian system? Things were fairly stable for me a while ago. (I think that was with Netscape 4.05.) I tried upgrading to Netscape 4.07 and now to Netscape 4.08 (libc versions, I think). Netscape would frequently hang. I tried going back to 4.05, but now, when I display a web page containing an applet, it complains that some Java classes are not signed and hangs (it takes a kill -9 to get rid of it). (This is all using the Debian installer for Netscape.) Is the current installer in hamm (netscape4_4.0-12.deb) compatible with Netscape 4.05? (I'm wondering if when I originally installed 4.05 it was with an earlier version of the installer.) Is any 4.x version of Netscape reasonably stable (as stable 3.0x was)? I tried installing 4.5 using the packages from slink(?), but they depend on the slink version of libc6 and who knows what else, which I don't want to mess with before slink is deemed stable. Any ideas? Daniel
Has something changed in Debian regarding interpreting Windows 98 partition time stamps?
What has changed between Debian 1.3 and Debian 2.0 in the interpretation of file time stamp on (directly) mounted Windows partitions? I just noticed that my old Debian 1.3 system and my new Debian 2.0 system report different file timestamps for files on my Windows 98 partition. Neither Debian system reports the correct time. Debian 2.0 is off by my times zone's offset from GMT. That sounds like Debian 2.0 is treating the time stamps as GMT times and translating to my local time zone for display. Debian 1.3 is off by one hour (it displays a time one hour earlier than the actual time the Windows file was created). That sounds like a daylight savings time problem, except that its a file I just created today to test things, and I didn't noticed any incorrect system times from Windows 98, Debian 1.3, or Debian 2.0 before or after the daylight savings time change a week ago. (I created a directory on Windows 98. Windows reported the file creation (modification?) time as 12:11pm. Windows also reported the current time as around 12:11. I shut down Windows 98 and rebooted into the BIOS to check the time. The BIOS reported the time as being around 12:11pm. When I rebooted into Debian 1.3 (kernel 2.0.34) and listed the directory on the Windows partition, it reported a file timestamp of 11:11 pm (one hour early). Debian 1.3 reported the current time correctly (around 12:14 by then). When I rebooted into Debian 2.0 (prebuilt 2.0.34 kernel) and listed the directory again, it reported a time of 7:11 am (five hours early). (Debian 2.0 also reported the current time correctly.)) Apparently, Debian 2.0 is interpreting file times on my Windows partition as GMT times, and then adjusting them to my EST time zone. Did something change in Debian 2.0? Did I misconfigure something? Does Windows 98 work differently? (I formatted the Windows partition as a FAT filesystem, not as FAT32.) Generally, what's causing the time difference, and where can I find information on fixing it? (I also noticed a difference in the end-of-line translation in Windows text files seen from the different versions of Debian. Is the configuration of that related to time interpretation?) Thanks, Daniel
What has changed in Debian regarding interpreting Windows 98 partition time stamps? [dsb]
What has changed between Debian 1.3 and Debian 2.0 in the interpretation of file time stamp on (directly) mounted Windows partitions? I just noticed that my old Debian 1.3 system and my new Debian 2.0 system report different file timestamps for files on my Windows 98 partition. Neither Debian system reports the correct time. Debian 2.0 is off by my times zone's offset from GMT. That sounds like Debian 2.0 is treating the time stamps as GMT times and translating to my local time zone for display. Debian 1.3 is off by one hour (it displays a time one hour earlier than the actual time the Windows file was created). That sounds like a daylight savings time problem, except that its a file I just created today to test things, and I didn't noticed any incorrect system times from Windows 98, Debian 1.3, or Debian 2.0 before or after the daylight savings time change a week ago. (I created a directory on Windows 98. Windows reported the file creation (modification?) time as 12:11pm. Windows also reported the current time as around 12:11. I shut down Windows 98 and rebooted into the BIOS to check the time. The BIOS reported the time as being around 12:11pm. When I rebooted into Debian 1.3 (kernel 2.0.34) and listed the directory on the Windows partition, it reported a file timestamp of 11:11 pm (one hour early). Debian 1.3 reported the current time correctly (around 12:14 by then). When I rebooted into Debian 2.0 (prebuilt 2.0.34 kernel) and listed the directory again, it reported a time of 7:11 am (five hours early). (Debian 2.0 also reported the current time correctly.)) Apparently, Debian 2.0 is interpreting file times on my Windows partition as GMT times, and then adjusting them to my EST time zone. Did something change in Debian 2.0? Did I misconfigure something? Does Windows 98 work differently? (I formatted the Windows partition as a FAT filesystem, not as FAT32.) Generally, what's causing the time difference, and where can I find information on fixing it? (I also noticed a difference in the end-of-line translation in Windows text files seen from the different versions of Debian. Is the configuration of that related to time interpretation?) Thanks, Daniel
Re: OffTopic: Synchronization of /etc or .dot-files... CVS?
> From: Alexander Kushnirenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > > We have a set of Debian computers, which are not quite the same. It would be > useful to synchronize certain files on all nodes like /etc/profile or > /etc/X11/Xresources, or /etc/menu and so on. But of course not all the files. > > Reflection of this problem is synchronization of user's .dot-files on > different nodes. Are the machines networked? If so, why would user have different startup files on different nodes? Don't you have each user's home directory available from all machines (via NFS-mounted partitions)? DAniel
how to add libc5 versions of X windows libraries to Debian 2.0 (libc6) installation?
How can libc5 version of X windows libraries be added to a Debian 2.0 system (which is based on libc6)? I've upgrading to Debian 2.0 (from Debian 1.3) by installing Debian 2.0 from scratch on a new root partition, and setting up pieces individually (e.g., PPP) to match my 1.3 system. I found the libc5 and libg++27 libraries I needed to run several things from my previous system. However, I also need the libc5 versions of X libraries. I can get them, but don't know how make them co-exist on the same system. Are there any instructions anywhere for how to add libc5-based libraries to libc6-based system? (I remember that there were some upgrading instructions quite a while ago regarding how to add libc6-based libraries to a libc5-based system, or maybe how to keep libc5-based libraries when upgrading to a libc6-based system. Is there anything equivalent that applies to a fresh libc6-based installation? Or might those instructions contain helpful information? (And where would they be?) ) (Yes, I plan on getting rid of the libc5-based stuff, but I want to finish moving to my Debian 2.0-based system before I start upgrading other things.) Thanks, Daniel
Re: Gcc Binaries for Intel P2 333 running Debian Linux
> From: "Rodrigo Moya" > > > >hi, > >i just intalled my linux on Intel PII 333 using > >debian and i need gcc binaries for the same. > >Any resources on net ? > >thanks in advance > > > Are they not in the distribution? You mean gcc, the GNU C compiler? Isn't there a change from gcc to egcs or something? Daniel
Re: Printing with an old tractor
Subject: Re: Printing with an old tractor Well, that's your problem rat chair - you s'ppose t' be _plowin'_ with a tractor, not printin'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?
> From: Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: > > > > On 24 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote: > > ... > > However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power > > supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two > > computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases. > > I've done it :-(. > > The safest solution is to power both of them right from the same socket. > > > > Wojtek Zabolotny > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > This is exceedingly odd. As a power engineer in training I would say > somebody did a really rotten job designing the power supply in one of your > machines. Was there any other equipment on either of the machines's > outlets? Poor power regulation aside, I don't see how a phase difference > affected the serial port. I hope that in general at least this isn't a > problem. That sounds like a ground loop problem. Daniel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
