Re: zero install - serious critiques?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:51:20 +0100, Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >you may see this as some problem: > >"Isn't running stuff off the net a security risk? >Isn't that where you get your software from anyway? Zero Install >automatically performs a number of checks for you (such as checking MD5 >sums and GPG signatures), and since it doesn't run any of the remote >code as root, you can try software out safely as a 'guest' user. Once >downloaded, the programs are run from the cache, without even checking >the original sites for updates (you have to tell it to update manually)." > >That means: no security updates or whatever I guess right. this problem is part and parcel of all gnu/linux "bundled application" solutions that are available atm iirc. no? a trade-off of less security for greater ease of use by the enduser. the upside seems to be that the end-user is less likely to fubar the whole os if they zero install some malware since the zero install system says it confines all activity to user space. am i understanding this correctly? peace, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
zero install - serious critiques?
hi all, i have recently been reading about the zero install system as a result of my interest in the rox desktop. i personally would prefer to use rox with apt. however, it seems the rox devs are primarily packaging for zero install. anyhow, is there any reason i wouldn't want to use zero install? any glaring problems it creates? the zero install website only has Good Things to say about zero install (not a surprise as much as a disappointment - nothing is perfect). for reference: http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/filesystem.html http://zero-install.sourceforge.net/compare.html peace, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can i be sub'd but not receive posts?
On 12 Jan 2006 at 19:39, Jacob S wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:09:54 -0800 > "David M. Besonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i would like to be able to post and i would like to > > have no posts delivered to me. i'll read the list > > from gmane. > > No, it's not possible to be subscribed without > receiving posts. However, you do not have to be > subscribed to post to this list. There are many > people that use gmane to read this list. thanks for the info. i'll make one post then unsub and see about posting from gmane. peace, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can i be sub'd but not receive posts?
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Re: odd winmodem (Smartlink, Agere) daemon behavior
hi all, i rewrote my post more clearly and reposted. please post all follow-ups to the "daemons, init.d, and console output experts" thread. thanks, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: daemons, init.d, and console output experts
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 13:08:18 -0700, David M.Besonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>problem. modem works fine when i (as root) use the debian script
>included with slmodem-2.9.6.tar.gz or when i start the daemon manually
here's that script for easy reference:
#!/bin/sh
#
# slmodemd:Starts the SmartLink Modem Daemon
#
# chkconfig: 345 90 10
# description: This is the user space part of the SmartLink Modem
driver
# processname: slmodemd
# config: /etc/sysconfig/slmodem
# Source function library.
#. /etc/init.d/functions
NAME=slmodemd
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/slmodemd
PIDFILE=/var/run/$NAME.pid
RETVAL=0
# Default configuration
SLMODEMD_DEVICE=slamr0
SLMODEMD_COUNTRY=USA
# Test presence of daemon binary
test -f $DAEMON || exit 0
# Source configuration
CONFIG=/etc/default/$NAME
if [ -f $CONFIG ]; then
. $CONFIG
else
echo "
#
# This is the default configuration for the slmodem driver daemon
# running on Debian systems.
#
# Edit device node and country code here ...
#
# possible country codes are:
#
# USA
# GERMANY
# BELGIUM
# etc.
#
# use \'$DAEMON --countrylist\' to check out other countries
#
SLMODEMD_DEVICE=$SLMODEMD_DEVICE
SLMODEMD_COUNTRY=$SLMODEMD_COUNTRY
" > $CONFIG
fi
# uncomment this if you want this feature (if necessary edit module
pattern):
# do not try to start on a kernel which does not support it
grep 'slamr\..*o' /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep > /dev/null || {
\
echo "SmartLink modem driver not supported by Kernel `uname -r`.
Exiting ..."
exit 0
}
start() {
cat /proc/modules | grep 'slamr' >/dev/null || {
echo -n "Loading SmartLink Modem driver into kernel ... "
modprobe slamr && echo "done." || { i
echo "failed."
exit -1
}
}
echo -n "Starting SmartLink Modem driver for:
$SLMODEMD_DEVICE"
start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON
--make-pidfile --background --quiet -- -c $SLMODEMD_COUNTRY
/dev/$SLMODEMD_DEVICE
RETVAL=$?
}
stop() {
echo -n "Shutting down SmartLink Modem driver normally"
ps -A | grep $NAME >/dev/null 2>/dev/null && {
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec
$DAEMON ||
{
echo " probably failed."
echo -n "Trying it the hard way (send SIGKILL all $NAME
processes): "
killall -KILL $NAME
/bin/true
RETVAL=0
}
} || { echo -n " ... no $NAME daemon running"; RETVAL=0; }
}
# See how we were called.
case "$1" in
start)
start
;;
stop)
stop
;;
restart|reload)
stop
echo ""
rm $PIDFILE
start
;;
*)
echo "Usage: /etc/init.d/$NAME {start|stop|restart}"
exit 1
esac
if [ $? == 0 ]; then
echo "."
if [ $1 == "stop" ]; then
rm $PIDFILE &>/dev/null
fi
exit 0
else
echo " failed."
exit -1
fi
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daemons, init.d, and console output experts
hi all, i posted about this problem late last night but here's a clearer daytime description: compiled and installed ftp://ftp.smlink.com/linux/unsupported/slmodem-2.9.6.tar.gz without a problem. modem works fine when i (as root) use the debian script included with slmodem-2.9.6.tar.gz or when i start the daemon manually with "slmodemd /dev/slamr0". i would like to run the script automatically at boot-time. i added the script to init.d (via this method http://www.desktop-linux.net/debian-rclocal.htm) but the modem won't respond to a kppp query after bootup. the daemon *is* loaded though, and interestingly, if i open a console window the modem will respond to a kppp query but the open console window displays the output, not the kppp dialog. huh? why would the daemon want to output to a console window if it was loaded via init.d but not when it's loaded manually after bootup? anyway, i've read init.d docs and the script and various other docs but am a bit befuddled. if i can provide any more info that would be helpful please let me know. lastly, folks in #debian recommended that i post here, but if there is a better place for my inquiry please tell me. i've already inquired on the linmodem mailing list. thanks, david -- d_a_v_i_d_b_at_p_a_n_i_x_dot_c_o_m -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
odd winmodem (Smartlink, Agere) daemon behavior
hi all, i have a winmodem driver compiled, installed, and working. weirdness: when i load the daemon at boot-time via init.d, the daemon loads, but the modem only responds to a query when console window is opened. modem commands and output are then echoed to the console window. everything works fine when i *don't* auto-load the daemon. if i manually start the daemon my modem is then accessible. i'm using the Smartlink 2.9.6 driver (slmodem-2.9.6.tar.gz) from ftp://ftp.smlink.com/linux/unsupported/ also, i'm using Debian w/2.4.21 kernel. ultimately i'd like the daemon to auto-run and work. any tips in helping me get there would be appreciated. peace david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Senior Project
There are two very good books available to help you: Robert L. Ziegler, "Linux Firewalls" (New Riders), and Wes Sonnenreich & Tom Yates, "Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls" (Wiley). The first covers the protocols in detail and provides comprehensive scripts. The second obviously also covers OpenBSD, which I decided was a better OS for my firewall. Also note that Linux has changed its IP filtering and NAT system again with 2.4.x, so you'll have to decide whether to use the 2.2.x ipchains system or the new one. (The books cover ipchains, but the ideas should be easily transferable.)
/proc/devices lists '188 usb/ttys/%d', choking MAKEDEV
I am running Debian 2.2 (potato) with the exception of having compiled the 2.4.1 kernel. MAKEDEV chokes, with the output: /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_usbtts%d=188: command not found I believe the problem is with line 150 of the script, and due to the fact that in /proc/devices, under Character Devices, is the line: 188 usb/tts/%d Can anyone help? Thanks, Dave
Re: Qmail ./qmail-config does not work! hard error???
Hi there again! > >more surprises! ;) Everything compiled ok but when I got to step 7 there > >is a hard error message when the ./qmail-config script tries to run > >./dnsfq hostname. It reports hard error! > > > >Have any of you qmail installed on Debian? Did you encounter this > >problem? If so how to go about fixing it? > > > >I am also somewaht confused on the impact of installing a non-package > >program into the filesystem doing things manually...? > > Well, why not use the *.deb package from project/experimental then? I have done that and the installation still shows the 'hard error' message. > Anyway, IIRC qmail-config tries to create file /var/qmail/control/me that > contains > eris.dev.null > on my box -- use vi and put your fqdn there. > (I think it's in the docs actually.) That's true and I can easily create a file control/me with my fqdn but the problem is I am not familiar at all with qmail and that script seems to put other into in control... Anyways I guess I have no other choice but to setup the control/* files myself... any one care to give me a hand :) The purpose of installing qmail (apart from the fun of learning) is to use ti as an SMTP gateway to a heavy duty mailing list (~200,000 messages/day). Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing qmail.deb still has problems...
Dear friends: I just installed qmail1.01.deb and I still got the same 'hard error' report. Also to install qmail I had to remove libpthread0 and splay and then install libso and libc6 before qmail could be installed. Now qmail might be installed but it will probably not work cause control/me and other files could not be setup cause of the same hard error...! Now dselect is gone crazy and has a million conflicts for some reason! I think the system is pretty stuffed... Oh well this is why I had suggested a dselect configuration file that you can load to restore know good setups... :) See ya. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Installing qmail.deb (was Re: Laptop for Linux Debian)
Dear friends, before anything else, let me thank you all for your support! I think Laptop vendors should start looking at supportintg Linux as you can see people wanting to purchase a laptop (such as myself) will prefer a brand (or generic) laptop that does support Linux!!! :) Now regardng qmail I have downloaded qmail-1.01.deb (Intel) and I would like to know what is the right way to install it. I am using the default smail as the mail-transport-agent. Do I need to remove smail first and then dpkg -i qmail*.deb? Is there any replacement argument for dpkg that will do it all (e.g. --replace) Maybe I should go read about dpkg before I ask all this question huh? ;) Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Qmail ./qmail-config does not work! hard error???
Hello guys, more surprises! ;) Everything compiled ok but when I got to step 7 there is a hard error message when the ./qmail-config script tries to run ./dnsfq hostname. It reports hard error! Have any of you qmail installed on Debian? Did you encounter this problem? If so how to go about fixing it? I am also somewaht confused on the impact of installing a non-package program into the filesystem doing things manually...? Thanks. David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Hey! ;) How come qmail is already in my passwd and group files???
Hello guys, I am about to install qmail when, voila! Qmail has already the user ids and groups created in /etc/passwd and /etc/group??? I never installed qmail before and it is not a package in dselect... so I assume smartlist or some other package added this in for me??? Also the sh in my current /etc/passwd file is /bin/sh whereas qmails advice is /bin/true. What am I suppose to do? Change it back so that it matches what qmail requires or leave it? And if I leave it how will it affect the other package that installed this in the first place? I think the .deb package for qmail might make things alot easier :) Any tips where I can find the experimental directory??? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: qmail 1.01 package
Hello guys! > > Is there a qmail 1.01 package? I couldn't find one in any of the > > contrib/non-free/stable/unsable directories. > > I found one in project/experimental and it works great. I'd love to try qmail! I have a large mailing list running and the ability to send many (200,000+) messages a day sure interests me! I am currently evaluating LSMTP and I must say it works really well, but it also costs a fair bit! How does qmail compare? I am sure it is quite fast too... :) Please let me know the URL where I can download debian qmail package. I did not find experimental in the normal FTP servers I access to. Thank you in advance! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Laptop for Linux Debian
Hello guys! If one were to buy a laptop these days what would be a good brand that is widely supported by Linux (Debian)? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Nobody user doing a find / ( -fstype ?????
Oh I see :) It is just that nobody kinna got my attention... ;) Thanks guys for clearing this to me (I did kill the process just in case! ooops! Anyways if it is running of cron it will start again some other time) I have another quick question for you if you don't mind... :) I am running the time daemon to "set" my time to some time server but since I have done this my time is not right anymore and uses the server's time rather then mine! Shouldn't it just update the clock but still respect *my* timezone??? The time server is 2 hours behind me but my /etc/timezone does have my time zone details right... @:) So now when I do a `date` on my system the time's two hours behind... Any tips? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Nobody user doing a find / ( -fstype ?????
Hello ppl! I just noticed when running top that a process owned by nobody was doing a scan of / with and -fstype argument...? I am not sure what it is but can someone kindly explain me? Maybe I should start looking for security patches for Linux (Debian) huh? ;) Thanks, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Swap additions
Dear friends, I have Debin Linux (1.3.1) and when I installed I setup a 128MB swap partition. Unfortunately, mirror.pl requires heaps of memory when mirroring large ftp sites and as I was initializing time stamps it ran out of memory. I would like to add a swap file so that I can initiate the mirror and set the time stamps and then if I do not require the extra swap and have HDD space shortage I can always remove the swap file. In IRIX the swap command can be used but I am not sure what is the proper way to do it on Debian Linux. Could some of you guys show me a step by step procedure on how to setup an additional 128MB swap file? Or alternatively where I can find this info. Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
MLMs comparisons and Linux
Hi there people, I need to find a good MLM (mailing list manager) for Linux. I wonder if any of you have some pointers to comparison charts for MLMs (features supported, etc.). I have searched the web but did not find anything relevant. I am particularly interested in comparing Listserv, Majordomo, Procmail, Smart list, ezmlm, and any other well know MLM packages. Thank you all for your help. I would like to thank all of you who gave me tips on C/C++/Java IDE! :) All the best! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
IDE for C++ on Linux (Debian)
Hello there! I am looking for a good IDE for C/C++ development for Linux (Debian). Something like Turbo C++ or better, either for X or not (if it could run from both would be nice :) ) If there are other IDE for JAVA I would too like to know which one is best :) Thank you for your time. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian-Lite : The Project
Hello ppl, I have been (quitely) reading the Debian project thread and I was wondering whether the following is possible. Why do we have to limit ourselves to debian-lite or any such subset of Debian? Is it not possible to have some sort of pre-packaged configuration files, that you load with dselect for example and installs all the components as specified in that package configuration? Like this we could have Debian for begginers, for programmers, for game programmers, for students, for home users, for you name it. Everyone could contribute packaging configuration (including customized ones) and dselect (or a new tool if dselect is not suitable) would just ensure all those packages within the package configuration "work together" (dependencies etc). Some standard package configurations would be available and "tested and supported" by Debian... others contributed. Also users can "backup" a certain working state of their sytems into a packaging configuration file wich could then be used to reinstall (add, delete, etc) to that particular configuration. In this way you only have to choose a certain "overall" system (e.g single home user) and the utility (e.g dselect or whatever) does the rest (getting the individual packages pertaining to that packaging configuration)! Of course you can add/substract and have all the current power of customization of Debian if you so desire... Your comments :-) Regards, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian-Lite : The Project
Dear Carl, > I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a Linux or Unix expert, but > as an experienced software trainer and former network manager and > customer support person, I hope I'd be able to contribute some > experience with the thought processes of the non-expert. Yes, please do. We need as much feedback as possible. Also we need to make everything as "baby proof" as possible. I am sure that many users (including technical) appreciate this sort of setup (thought without loosing the flexibility one requires; that would be too "window'ish") > I think people might be drifting away from the initial idea of the > "Debian Lite" project, namely a small, very simple to install version > with minimal admin and network tools, to be installed by newbies. > Other things that have been suggested (like tailored distributions for > game developers and programmers), while worthy ideas, aren't really > related to the Lite idea. Yes and no. Lite could be one of the packaging configurations (why not the test bed for this project). This means that this particular package configuration would be as you said: "a small, very simple to install version with minimal admin and network tools, to be installed by newbies." It is just the means (technically speaking) to achieve that "lite" setup that is important (in my opinion). If it is something that is "hardcoded" or hard to change etc problems would arise. My suggestion was only to make it modular allowing it to grow, and therfore, not only serve the needs of "lite" users but also other power users (such as developers etc). Linux community seems to be very diversified. I think it would not be fair to just address the needs of lite users (though I understand (and support) the priorities to make Debian as user friendly and simple as possible). Also, I am sure that in the process of deciding what *is* "Lite" (or whatever it will be called) you will find conflicting interests. One user might think "lite" needs to have "this" the other thinks "that" to be better... and so on. I bet you will need some sort of final "authority" to eventually come up with a "lite" version. Other distributions would not have this problem as they decide what is "lite" and what is not "lite". In debian we have everyone deciding...(or at least "lobbying" ;-) ). This is why I think flexibility is important. Ok. My point is Debian "lite" can and should be given priority. Nevertheless the mechanism to get a lite version should be as flexible, scalable and modular as possible to allow other Linux users (such as developers) to have their own "lite" too (as well as other benefits like frozen know "sane" configurations, etc etc). I really don't see this affecting Lite but rather supporting it. > I'd be glad to help out with the Debian Lite project, if asked. Well I am too like you just a contributor. :-) I really enjoy the Linux (and the Debian distribution) spirit. I think if we keep it this way (which once it grows might be harder as ppl *will* try to snatch it) it will be a great OS!!! (well my opinion) All the best! David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian and Red Hat and Slackware prevalence
Mmmm wouldn't this have to do with the following (old) postings...??? ;) http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~grath/archives/rms-post/0057.html http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~grath/archives/rms-post/0096.html http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~grath/archives/rms-post/0089.html http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~grath/archives/rms-post/0098.html Dave On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: > On 30 Jul 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > I've been noticing quite in interesting trend, lately. > > > > Seems most newbies to Linux, way back when, would use > > Slackware. 'cause that was the only thing available. > > > > Nowadays, since you can buy Red Hat at Fry's, and Egghead, and every > > other electronics store in the US, it seems there are throbbing hordes > > of newbies running it. (At least that's what I've determined in > > comp.os.linux.misc :) > > > > But! On the linux-kernel developers' list, most people are talking > > about Debian. > > > > Perhaps Debian's becoming the developers' OS of choice, while Red Hat > > is replacing Slackware as the introduction to Linux. > > I don't know how true that is about Debian. Doesn't Linus, Ted T'so, and > a host of other prominent kernel developers use Red Hat. I knowin talking > to David Taylor (one of the programers of quake, and the guy who did the > original port to Linux) of crack.com, they use Red Hat. Actually their > building their next games, Golgotha, on Linux box's and plan for it to be > released simultanously for Win95 and Linux. > > Shaya > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
Hello again, Mmm I would think the installation would have prompt me for that... (it did ask whether to use the lilo.conf configuration file). Anyways I have booted from diskette and ran `lilo`. I still get the 01 01 01 01 01 01 How can I revert back to my old kernel image? Just change the symlinks and rerun lilo??? Thanx. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Uh oh! After dselect installed the new kernel... the system does not boot...
Hi again, Guess what? I used dselect to install a few (well quite a few) packages including the kernel sources and utilities. As it requested me to compile the new 2.0.30 kernel I replied yes. All went ok till I rebooted! Now just as I get to the lilo prompt all I get is 01 01 01 01 for ever and ever, nonstop. I guess I'll have to revert back to the old kernel. I have some idea on how to do that but I would like some expert advise so that I don't "damage" the system even more ;) I would say that changing the symlinks to point to boot/ should work... right? Thanx, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Boot order (2)
Hello Lindsay, have you read my latest good news! :-] BTW thanks alot for all the help on the NIC problem. I really appreciate it :-) > I remove all reference to drive C in the bios - Linux finds it anyway. Yep I did it and it worked! :) > Set to Only or Master - it will not work as a slave on its own. Mmm the funny thing is it did work with Primary IDE and dip switch as slave. Well BIOS did NOT detected it but good ol' Linux did! :-) > Just check with dmesg - look for CHS and check that the figures are > correct. Also run cfdisk /dev/hda and check CHS again. If this works you > can transfer all the files you like in one go. CHS reports the correct figures :-) (dmesg and cfdisk) Mmm what do you mean if that works I can transfer all the files in one go? Oh BTW... :-) I have the boot option set on the partition of the IDE drive... this is not meant (at least for now) to be a bootable HDD. Does it matter that the boot flag is set? Does unsetting it and writing the partition destroys all the data? Thanx. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Adaptec 2940Ultra Wide PCI SCSI Host Adapter
> > Plug and Play SCAM support > > -- > > The default setting is disabled. They mention in the manual that if > > enabled than SCSI ID are automatically assigned to those SCSI devices > > that support SCAM. Those that don't usually are not affected (except > > some older SCSI 1 devices which could hang). > > Anyone have any more info on this? I have a device which I enabled SCAM > support on connected to a 2940, but it didn't do anything.. used the ID I > set with the dip switches. Yep same here :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Success: NIC 3C905-TX works!
Dear friends, I finally got my NIC card and Linux "happily married"! ;) Well at least during the "honeymoon" (well I only tested pinging thus far! I hope I am not celebrating too soon... :-o Anyways it *is* a step forward!) I would like to thank everyone out there for their support. Without you guys this would have been a nightmare! For those of you still struggling on a particular problem... HANG ON THERE! ;-) It will eventually work! :-) *** you can skip the remainder of this message if you are not interested in knowing what might have caused my 3C905-TX not to work *** Just that you know (and for the sake of other people experiencing similar problems) I will briefly describe what I think could have been the problems... (are you seating down? ;-) ) I think in my case it was a combination of hardware and software problems: Hardware 1. When I initially setup Debian Linux the twisted pair cable I was using was damaged. I remember changing cables with another workstation and that still not working. The thing is (and I read it somewhere later on) that if you change cables you are best rebooting or initializing the card in some way. Because of this intial cable swap test I never considered the cable a problem anymore (until I got really "desperate" about things still not working! ;-) ) 2. In my "desperate" mood ;-) I also swaped network cards (exactly the same card) with another workstation (NT). The card that used to be on the Linux box works fine on NT so I don't think that was the problem at all though I haven't been able (or willing) to isolate that and find if it was a problem under Linux. Software 1. Get the LATEST stable driver that SUITS your setup! For example a particular version of the driver (not necessarily the latest) might work better if you run your network at 10Mbps while another version (probably a later one) work best if you run at 100Mbps. Also the kernel that you currently are using might affect in many ways the driver. 2. ENSURE you have the proper driver configuration! I think this is probably the easiest and yet most common reason for things not working! I think this was (in addition to the cable) the single most important reason for the card not to work. The default options were 0,,12 and what made it work for me was 6 (I guess I thought it was safe to just accept the defaults but it is not always the case). In any case I did upgrade to the latest driver so I haven't tested the default driver (the one that comes with 2.0.29 kernel) with the new configuration. ADVICE if you run into problems/difficulties making things work: --- a) Ensure that you have a driver that works for your particular hardware (check with other people on the list for this). More importantly ENSURE that you have the right CONFIGURATION for your hardware. For example, in my case (and eventhough again I have not been able to isolate whether that was *the* cause of the problem) I was using the driver's default configuration which was NOT suitable for my setup; b) If everything else fails, CHECK your hardware!!! (i.e. NIC and cable) (particularly if you find out that other people under the same software configuration than you made it to work). Ok I hope this is not too confusing... =8-) I still have a few error messages on my Linux system I would like to get rid off. I will post other messages addressing this later on. Once again THANKS everyone! David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: naming convention question
Well since this seems to be such a "hot topic" ;) I felt I should give my opinion. Well here it goes I think the current naming convention is fine. :-) Of course the symlinks *have* to be there to make things clear to everyone. And despite not being a developer I still love to know what is happening in the future releases and hence I would not like it to be "top secret". ;) Well that's *my* opinion on the subject... Maybe, and for those who might be confused by the namings a README file that addresses this should be in place at the sites (well maybe it is already I don't know...) Regards, David PS. One further note... I would really prefer Web browsers such as Netscape to actually tell you where Symlinks point to (knowing it points to "bo" does help not wondering what is in "bo" or what is it for). But this is for Netscape to solve/improve... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Boot order (2)
> > Well I just disabled the BIOS and it worked... Is this ok to do? > > yup, i do just the same on my setup - i pretend to the bios that i dont > have any ide disk, so that i can boot on my scsi drive. > > of course, this does not work for people who use a so-called operating > system that depends on the bios for their disk access :) but linux is safe *sighs* I love Linux... :-) Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Boot order (2)
Hi again Well I just disabled the BIOS and it worked... Is this ok to do? If I only have one IDE drive should I set it to slave or master (I know normally is master) in Linux? If I set it to slave BIOS doesn't even detect it :-) Any consequences of changing these settings? Regards, Dave >I have just added a master IDE drive (primary IDE) to my linux setup. Now >it is trying to boot from it rather than my SCSI HDD (the one where Linux >is). Can I change this? I had my drive setup as a slave b4 (without a >master) and eventhough BIOS did not detected it, Linux did. Anyways I >thought that if BIOS couldn't see it I was best to change the jumpers to >master (now it tries to boot from IDE first). > >If you knwo how I can chage this so that it boots as before from SCSI >please let me know. > >Thanks. > >Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Boot order
Hello folks, I have just added a master IDE drive (primary IDE) to my linux setup. Now it is trying to boot from it rather than my SCSI HDD (the one where Linux is). Can I change this? I had my drive setup as a slave b4 (without a master) and eventhough BIOS did not detected it, Linux did. Anyways I thought that if BIOS couldn't see it I was best to change the jumpers to master (now it tries to boot from IDE first). If you knwo how I can chage this so that it boots as before from SCSI please let me know. Thanks. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How Linux (and Debian) compare?
Dear friends, > > It'd be interesting to know how many active Debian systems there are out > > there! > > Me too. There was some discussion on debian-private a few months ago > about writing a package that would collect stats about the systems > it was installed on - and send them via e-mail to a central server that > would summarize them. Of primary interest would be what packages were > installed. It might be nice to collect info on the number of users, > and what types of hardware is being used. > > Of course, there is some danger in doing this. In particular, the > information could be used to detect security vulnerabilities (I'm > going to have to address this with dwww too). > > There is also the confidentiality aspect: I wouldn't want the information > published in a raw non-summarized format - since that might be used > by commercial types to target me in some marketing database. > > A "dfeedback" package would be a nice little project for someone to > tackle, if they are comfortable with the issues. Having some statistics > would definitely make it easier for people to make business decisions > related to Debian products and marketing. I'm also interested in seeing > how many people have dwww installed. :-) I'd be careful on the way you do this. I too wouldn't mind knowing how many ppl use Debian but I would certainly not like emails to be sent with details of what I have installed on my system (specially if I do not know they are being sent and what info is being sent). An alternative would be to have a registration package that would allow those who *wish* to register to do so easily and as securely as possible. Just a thought... Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Adaptec 2940Ultra Wide PCI SCSI Host Adapter
Dear list members, I was looking at the documentation my adaptec PCI SCSI and notice a couple of configuration parameters that could be changed when running under Linux (rather than DOS or Windows). These are: Plug and Play SCAM support -- The default setting is disabled. They mention in the manual that if enabled than SCSI ID are automatically assigned to those SCSI devices that support SCAM. Those that don't usually are not affected (except some older SCSI 1 devices which could hang). Would it be better under Linux to enable this setting??? Extended BIOS Translation for DOS Drives > 1 GByte -- The default setting is enabled. The manual under Unixware says that Unix supports > 1GByte so the BIOS extentions should be disabled. For SCO UNIX it says it ignores this setting so enable or disable work. Obciously this is a DOS cludge... ;) and I assume Linux will not require it. Would it be better under Linux to disable this setting??? Support for Ultra SCSI Speed The default setting is disabled. The manual says this option determines whether the host adapter supports the fast transfer rates (13.4,16,20.0) of Ultra SCSI devices. Should I enable this for Linux? Would the driver support it? If you have experience with Adaptec's settings for the Ultra Wide SCSI Host Adapter I would like to know how I can fine tune it for Linux. Are there any documentation I can read regarding fine tuning this particular hardware for Linux? How about the latest drivers? Thank you. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RedHat vs Debian (was Re: Bash Prompt in an XTerm)
Hiya Travis, > I just switched from Red Hat 4.2 to Debian 1.3.1 and I am now realizing how > much > Red Hat really hides you from things. I was trying to decide what distribution to install (RedHat versus Debian) just b4 I shifted to Linux. I must say in the beginning I was very much inclined at RedHat as most discussions on the Linux newsgroups seem to be RedHat related ( I guess RedHat user base is larger than Debian's ) but the cooperative spirit of Debian made me choose it instead :-) I really think it is a neat community and I wanted to be part of it and eventually contribute as well. My question to you is how do you find them (which one do you think is best; if there is such a thing as 'best'). Any particular features etc you prefer on one over the other? Are there any reviews (as neutral as possible) on how the two compare? Are they compatible? How hard is it to move from one to the other? Thanx, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Gcc errors while compiling 3com updated driver 3c59x.c
Thank you Andrea! :-) > put a blank between the option '-c' and the input file argument > '3c59x.c'. It did work with the space. :-) You see the source code has a carriage return just at that point. I assumed as all of the other arguments were glued together this one would be too. I did notice the man page and corrected it just a while ago. But thanks alot for your prompt reply! :) I was very very happy to *finally* be able to get my Linux setup to compile things (after many diskettes back and forth). I am disapointed though as I got the 3c59x.c file precompiled into 3c59x.o, copied it to the appropriate module directory, did the depmod -va, modprobe -v 3c59x, rmmod, modconf, rebooting, geez everything and the card still does not work! :-( (the good news is I get heaps less errors at boot time!) Am I *still* missing something??? Please help. Thanks in advance. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Gcc errors while compiling #com updated driver 3c59x.c
Dear listmembers, Thanks alot for your help. The split command worked like a beauty! :-) I installed gcc (+ the required package cpp and a few other suggests nad reccomends). Now the problem is the following: In the source code of the patched/updated driver it says at the end what command to use to compile the driver. I typed it as it instructs you: gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c3c59x.c I got the following error message: gcc: unrecognized option `-c3c59x.c` gcc: No input files Am I doing something wrong? Is this because maybe different version of gcc are being used? Please let me know if you know what the problem is and how to go about compiling this file. Thanks again. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Installing from a pile of floppys
Hi there Luis, > I've just installed Debian 1.3.1 on a 386SL laptop and everything is Ok > for the base system. But now I would like to install some big packages > with big .deb files that don't fit in a single floppy. Is there some > preferred procedure for doing this? > (I have some clues: use a MsDOS partition to install form and dump the > files zipped in several floppies, use some PLIP or SLIP to link to > another computer, but all of these sound a bit hard for me. I'm pretty > sure that somebody else has faced this problem before. Any advice? I have just done the same (installed debian from floppies). If you are luckier than me and your ethernet card is working than you can run 'dselect' and choose one of 5 access methods to install debain packages. I suggest you use FTP. At the prompt: # dselect Choose the [A]ccess method (I suggest FTP) Then follow the instructions... All the best, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What if package size is bigger than a floppy can hold? (was Re: Suggestion to future debian releases)
Hi again, Well I got most of the things I require down. BTW I got an error when I did the 'dpkg -i man-db*'. It installed but complained at the end and the script aborted at line 87... it still works though... Now the question is I need to get a 2.3MB package onto floppies and then to the Linux box. I heard of a split command that does this... is that true? How do I go about using it. The box where I am downloading the packages to is an NT system (I do have other Unix boxes around if required to run the split command (e.g. Solaris)). If you know how I can go about copying the gcc package (2.xMB) onto floppies and then to the Linux box please let me know. Also I assume I will require the split package on the Linux box too... please let me know where to find it (I just hope it will fit on a floppy!) ;) For those of you wondering why all this trouble? Well my NIC driver is not working so I need to compile a patch (yes I have tried other ways but none has worked (e.g. getting a precompiled 3c59x.o file etc I even tried upgrading the whole kernel! And still got the unresolved symbol error messages!) Thanks. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Suggestion to future debian releases
Hello Bruce, > You can move that "man" package over on a floppy and install it. > dpkg -i should do, unless it depends on another package, > in which case it will tell you about that. I have tried this but there are dependencies. I keep getting the required packages down only to find out that they too need some other package... Is there a command (or maybe a dpkg argument) that I can use to find out exactly what packages I need to install some other package? I checked the Packages file on the debian FTP site but there seem to be other packages required besides those listed here. > The base system is the smallest one that permits you to install packages. > If you had a CD, it might be different - I think we might support more > default packages in a system installed from CD eventually, because there > is not the size problem we have with the floppy-based install. Ok. That makes sense. :) Regards, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Suggestion to future debian releases
Dear listmembers, I have just installed Linux (debian) and I was very happy with the installation "wizard". It sure made it easy to install. I would like to suggest something though. Is it possible that in future realease 'man' be included in the base system? I'll explain why... I have installed, using the rescue, drivers and base diskettes the Debian Linux on my PC. Nevertheless because the driver for my NIC (3C905-TX) is not current as of 1.3 release, my networking is disabled (I have to get a patch; that's a all new story... it's been giving me a headache to but I'll get there eventually). As such I can't install any additional packages (I don't have a CD so I need to install accross the net). I have noticed that there are lotza man pages in my basic setup but no 'man' command to read them. :-) Well just a suggestion as man does come handy! :-) See ya, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3com 3c59x.o module for Kernel 2.0.29
Hello Allen, I guess will be in "interactive mode" :-) After rebboting once again I do get some output from modprobe -v 3c59x.o: /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol register_netd ev_R24876de2 /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol netif_rx_R578c179c /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol dev_kfree_skb_R44b132be /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol dev_alloc_skb_R8587f622 /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol eth_type_trans_Rfa46f459 /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol ether_setup_R7cd72d74 /lib/modules/2.0.29/net/3c59x.o: unresolved symbol unregister_netdev_Rc260075b > After "modeprobe 3c59x", what does "lsmod" show? Module Pages Used by st 6 0 sg 1 0 serial 8 0 psaux 1 0 lp 2 0 ftape 43 0 rarp1 0 vfat3 0 binfmt_java 1 0 smbfs 6 0 umsdos 5 0 ufs 3 0 sysv7 0 nfs12 4 binfmt_aout 1 0 I guess this are some of the modules I chose when setting up debian from the installation diskettes. Regards, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3com 3c59x.o module for Kernel 2.0.29
Hi again! nearly there... :-) ok> # cd / ok> # tar -zxvf /tmp/3com_tar.gz ok> # depmod -va A listing of the modules is displayed. ok> # modprobe -v 3c59x.o Nothing happens. I assume this is a good sign... > The last step should initialize your card. If it works, do a > ko> # rmmod 3c59x.o The following notification is displayed: rmmod: module 3c59x.o not loaded > and run > ko> # modconfig The following notification is displayed: bash: modconfig: command not found I run a find for modconfig and no luck. The closest I found was modconf. So I gave it a try and voila up came a neat menu :) I then unselected and then reselected (just in case) the 3c90x driver. > adding the 3c59x.o module in NET as a driver to be loaded > when booting. When I booted I got a bunch of error messages... :-( (where can I find a log of these messages? Nothing on /var/log) In any case when I did a ping at least I got some feedback :) The error was among other things: ping: sendto: Network is unreachable Pinging the linux from another system does not work (no activity). Do you know what the problem might be? Thanks. Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3Com Fast Etherlink XL
Hello Jonh, > I did it by getting the 3c59x.c file and just compiling it > using the compile line shown at the bottom of the file. > Then I copied the 3c59x.o file to /lib/modules//net/3c59x.o > (copying original out of way) > and rebooting. thanks for your prompt reply. As I mentioned to Thomas I am unable to obtain the necessary development packages at this stage as I cannot "communicate" with my linux system. Getting the necessarey development packages and installing them using diskettes would be the only viable solution, but that might be too many diskettes and seems somewaht cubersome to do. Thomas is going to provide me with a precompiled patched 3c90x.o for the 2.0.29 kernel (thanx Thomas!). I will then do as you mentioned and hopefully I will be online! :-) I do have a question though (well more of a curiosity). I read that one should always "notify" debian package utility of any manual changes or else it will not know that I updated that particular file/module to a newer updated version. Should I not (and how is the question ;) ) "notify" the dpkm utility of the changes? I guess this would avoid future upgrades to the debian kernel or its modules (which may not still include this updated driver) from overwriting my change? Mmmm am I making any sense??? ;-) Regards, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3Com Fast Etherlink XL
Dear Thomas, > Well, get the kernel-source package aswell as the kernel-package. Install > both, then go to /usr/src/linux/drivers/net and replace the file 3c59x.c > with the patched version you obtained from Donald Becker's page. In > /usr/src/linux, do a make menuconfig to run the kernel configuration > utility. You'll have to include the 3c59x driver either in the kernel or > set it up as a module. Once you're done, save this kernel config, then > create your custom kernel by running > > make-kpkg binary --revision custom-1.0 My problem is that I cannot use the network (as the card is not working) to download/install any more packages. If you know what development packages I need I can use another WS to dowload them and put them in diskettes and then install them from the diskettes. I think this can/would be somewhat cumbersome if the packages are relatively large... > Erm. The process mentioned above needs a development system installled. I have checked and there seems to be alot of development packages! I am sure I would not need them all to do this particular setup, but still... > If you don't have the module yet, do a uname -a and tell me which kernel > version you're running. I can provide you with the patched 3c59x.o module > precompiled for either 2.0.29 and 2.0.30 kernels. I did a 'uname -a' and I am currently using 2.0.29. Is there any advantages in using 2.0.30? Would this particular problem have been solved by installing a 2.0.30 kernel? In any case I would really appreciate if you could send me the patched 3c90x.o module precompiled for 2.0.29 kernel. I think that would be the easiest at least to get the card working so I can download whatever packages I need. Thank you for your help. All the best! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3Com Fast Etherlink XL
Hello again, I am still somewhat confused on how I actually go about installing the 3c90x.c driver... I would appreciate some help/tips or alternatively, pointers to FAQs etc where I can find more info regarding this. I have just installed Debian 1.3. I got the Rescue and Device driver's diskettes setup as well as the base1 to base5 diskettes. I successfully installed Debian but when I tried to specify an FTP access to load the Debian packages I wasn't able to do so as the netwarok card is not working. Jim as kindly suggested I get a driver update (which I have done) but I am unable to find the directories he mentions in my system (see below) and hence I am lost on how, under the circumstances, I go about (1) making the necessary changes to the kernel, or (2) obtain the appropriate updated net module for the new driver. If you require more information please let me know. I am keen to have the system going and would really appreciate some help. :-) I need the network card to work as I cannot install anything else unless I get ftp to work (obviously any Linux without a functional network card is not much fun :-) ). Cheers, Dave On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > > > I did notice some references on the web (to some NASA site) where they > > have apparantly a driver for the boomerang (as they call the 3C905-TX) > > card but I don't really know how I can go about installing it? > > It's easy - you just replace the /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/3c59x.c > with Donald Becker's one from the NASA site. > > http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html > > It worked fine for me. > > > Do I have > > to recompile the kernel? > > Yes. Try Manoj's "kernel-package" package (read > /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz). > > Cheers, > > - Jim > > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 3Com Fast Etherlink XL
Dear Jim, Thanks alot for your help. I just have another question... when I was installing Debian (latest version 1.3) I did noticed that they do have a module (NET) that supports 3C59x. Since this is a recent release of Debian why isn't there a more recent copy of the driver made available in the URL you gave me? Why wasn't this included in the new debian device diskette? It appears to be using a x/x/96 driver instead (Debian 1.3)? Well just curious... :) I have already downloaded the new 3c59x.c driver and it does have a much more recent date (x/x/97) :-) FYI this was the message that garbled my screen after I selected eth0 as the primary connection (before applying any patches to the kernel): eth0: Media selection timer tick happened, MII. eth0: Media MII is has no indication, 8802. eth0: Media selection timer finished, MII. I will give it a try now. Hope it all works out ok :) Best wishes! Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
3Com Fast Etherlink XL
*** PLEASE REPLY TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I am not on this list. THANK YOU *** Dear friends, I have just installed Debian Linux. Congratulations for the installation wizard. I found it pretty easy and straightforward with lots of useful information. Unfortunately the only part I haven't been able to successfully "install" is the 3c90x net module. It installs but I cannot get any "talking" from my PC and the outer world. I first noticed this when I attempted to install the base packages via NFS... Do you know how I can obtain a debian module that supports the 3C905-TX NIC? I did notice some references on the web (to some NASA site) where they have apparantly a driver for the boomerang (as they call the 3C905-TX) card but I don't really know how I can go about installing it? Do I have to recompile the kernel? The debian FAQ says that the network is setup via a module rather than being part of the kernel... Any tips would be appreciated :) Thanks. Regards, Dave -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: need help; Netscape 3.01; bus error
Eugene H. Sevinian wrote: > > This version of Netscape which I have installed recently works very > bad. I am getting this error very often. > > Will be thankfull for any advice. One of my users complained that Netscape would "bus error" whenever he tried to use it to send email. I found this very odd since it _only_ happened to him. I spent about an hour figuring out what was wrong. Netscape stores a user's address book in ~/.netscape/address-book.html. Note that the format looks like HTML. This user had recently added a user to his address book and had pasted information from an email message into the description field. The information contained ">" characters. Netscape saved the address book file with the new info included very litterally. This made the file look like an HTML file with bad syntax and Netscape core dumped every time it tried to read the address book with that entry. This is a bug netscape. If this sounds like the same bug you're encountering, try renaming your ~/.netscape/address-book.html file so Netscape won't find it. Then either re-enter all of your address book data being careful of what you put in the description fields or copy the file back to ~/.netscape/address-book.html and use an editor to fix the description fields until Necscape no longer chokes on it. If this doesn't sound like the bug you're stumbling over, at least I've warned a few people about this nasty one.
Re: Can't nfs mount Debian box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi... > > I'm having trouble nfs mounting a Debian box from other machines... 'ps > -aux' indicates rpc.portmap, update, nfsiod (4 instances), kerneld, > inetd, bootpd, rpc.nfsd, rpc.mount, rpc.ugidd. Other processes seem to > be working well (apache, netscape, in.telnetd, bash, emacs)... Still a > variety of machines (linux, NeXT, Sparc) can't mount correctly configured > /etc/exports (i.e. '/ trusty(rw,no_root_squash)... > > What can I do to ferret out this problem? Any immediate clues as to > what's going on? > > TIA I don't know if I can help but here's an attempt. I have about 30 Debian systems some SGIs and a few Suns at work with NFS running well. When you edit your /etc/exports file on a Linux system you need to tell rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd to re-read it. You do this by sending them a HUP signal. I use this command: killall -HUP rpc.nfsd rpc.mountd Rebooting should work too but is much slower. If this doesn't work, carefully check your /etc/exports file while reading the "exports" man page to be sure it's correct. Good luck...
Re: Installation problem
Daniel Karlsson wrote: > > Hi > > It's been a while since I wrote about this but it's been a tough week. I > repeat my problem. > > I'm trying to install debian linux on my computer. It works fine until I'm > supposed to partition my hard drive. Then fdisk complaints that it can't > seek on it. This is the message I get: > > FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on hard drive > > I know that it really finds the drive since it's listed correctly when the > installation programme detects what hardware I've got. I've tried to change > the mode from LBA to NORMAL on the BIOS, but that doesn't do any good. > > Has anyone got an idea of what's wrong? I don't know what's wrong but I did experience this same problem on one system I installen Debian on. It was a new P6 system with a 4.3GB disk and NT pre-installed. Durring the initial install process cfdisk failed with the error message you describe. After several minutes of shock I started a shell and tried cfdisk manually. It failed again as you'd expect. Then I ran fdisk. It worked and wrote a new partition table. Then I tried cfdisk again and it worked now too. I guess cfdisk just didn't like something about the pre-installed NT partions and partition table. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 3.2
Tim Sailer wrote: > > I just updated my home system to 'rex'. I wanted to play with the > new GUI setup. Now, I have a manpage for XF86Setup, but no > executable. Would some kind soul *please* tell me what I did wrong? > I'm too tired to think anymore tonight.. > > Tim I just installed 'frozen->rex' yesterday, too. I just checked and I have the man page too but no XF86Setup. I guess either it's a bug or I made the same mistake you did. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dpkg feature request
Bruce Perens wrote: > I think this is _almost_ right. What you need is to copy the dpkg status > file in a way that marks the packages as selected _but_not_installed_ on > the second system. It would take a script to do this, because you don't want > to take anything that got installed in the base and mark it as "selected but > not installed". However, having the > capability to make lists of selections and pass them around would be nice. > Thus, I'll ask Ian Jackson. How about three flags to dpkg? > > --select package-name [package-name ...] > Selects a list of packages for later installation. > --deselect package-name [package-name ...] > De-selects a list of packages for later removal. > --list-selected > Lists selected packages in a way suitable for inclusion in a > list > passed to --select. > > There may well be flags to do this now, but I've missed them. > This would allow you to set up the selections via a shell script or something, > and then start dselect to fine-tune what you have selected. > > Thanks > > Bruce This is a great idea! Its exactly what I've been wishing for. I'd be able to get one system installed right and then cruise through the installation of the other 29 systems here. It would also be nice to have an option in dselect to pick this method of selection. Then if minor tweaks need to be made to what's selected they can be done in the normal manor before proceeding with the install. But this is just cosmetic. The options you suggest would make me very happy. -- David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where is the kernel-package package?
Hello, I've been searching all over my system and ftp.debian.org and I haven't found the kernel-package package. I've got the Linux-2.0.12 source and I'd like to build a custom debian kernel image. Anybody know where to find it? Thanks. -- ____ David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to work ? (fwd)
Mark Edward Johnston wrote: > > I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer, > but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to > find the mouse. > > The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434 > and what seems to be a "PS/2" mouse. > > I have linked /dev/mouse -> /dev/psmouse (-> /dev/psaux) > and set Protocol and Device in XF86Config to "PS/2" and > "/dev/mouse" respectively. > > Any help would be appreciated, > > Mark Johnston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > PS: Does anybody know if PS/2 mouse support is in the default kernel in > Debian 1.1.3 ?? Is this a valid question ? As I and a friend frieend with a Gateway 2000 have finally discovered, that is a very good question. No, PS/2 mouse support is not in not compiled in and doesn't appear to be available as a module. You'll need to reconfigure and recompile. Once you have installed the kernel-source package you want, follow the directions in /usr/src/linux/debian.README. I hope this helps.
Supported fast graphics cards?
I've been asked which graphics card to get for a purchase of 5 systems to run Linux. There are a lot of new cards out there and new versions of cards I was familiar with but enough has changed that I'm not sure exactly what to specify. I and some friends have Mach64 cards at home that we bought about a year ago and are very hapily running Debian Linux on but what would I specify to get a XFree86 X-Server compatible graphics card now? If you have a recomendation for a _specific_ model of graphics card that you know works (1280x1024x256), please let me know. It will speed my search. Thanks. -- ________ David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpm and X mouse conflicts
Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Mark Phillips wrote: > > > But my mouse is a normal, MouseSystems compatible, serial mouse. > > Surely I shouldn't have to use the -R option? I didn't have to under > > slackware. > > > I suspect that slackware runs the daemon with the -R option and sets up X > to use /dev/gpmdata. Try it ;-) > > Dwarf > No, Slackware doesn't either. In fact the "-R" option is NOT needed for most systems to get gpm and X to happily share the mouse. My system at home, several friends' systems and many systems at work all work fine without the "-R" option. However, "-R" does seem to be needed for bus mice and in some cases it seems to be needed even for serial mice. I don't know what the common denominator is for these cases but since I've seen a couple, I'd sure like to know. -- David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .xinitrc
Rick Hawkins wrote: > > one more, probably minor thing: with it set up for xdm, it ignores the > .xinitrc file in my home directory. am i missing something obvious? > > rick I ran into this. Reading /etc/X11/Xsession told me enough to fix it. Edit /etc/X11/config and add the following lines: allow-user-resources allow-user-modmap allow-user-xsession I think this should be concidered a bug. These lines should already be present and the sysadmin can remove one or more of them in very unusual cases where that might be desired. -- ________ David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Debian 1.1 have emacs-19.31?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > David M Cooke writes: > David> Will the officially release Debian 1.1 include emacs-19.31? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> emacs --version > 19.31.1 Where is the .deb file? I checked unstable/binary/editors and found: -r--r--r-- 1 daemon ftp-linu 5071046 Mar 7 03:40 emacs-19.30-1.deb -r--r--r-- 1 daemon ftp-linu 2806228 Mar 7 03:42 emacs-el-19.30-1.deb thanks. -- ____ David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Will Debian 1.1 have emacs-19.31?
Will the officially release Debian 1.1 include emacs-19.31? It would be nice since I've converted our SGI and Convex machines already and I'd like to run the same version on the soon to be installed Debian workstations. -- ________ David M. Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ftpd annoyance - DIR doesn't work for anonymous ftp
>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> (There's something to be said for having the debian ftpd package Mark> either handle this or include a script to do so... even if it Mark> means "dpkg --root ~ftp -i base*.deb" :-) Definitely agree with this. It would be nice to have an anon-ftp package which would set up ~ftp as appropriate (but not as extremely as Mark suggests!) # Dave -- David M. Smith, Department of Mathematics and Statistics, Lancaster University <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> x3952 http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk:2080/~maa036/
Ftpd annoyance - DIR doesn't work for anonymous ftp
I've just enabled anonymous ftp to my Debian 1.1 Linux box according to the instructions in the ftpd manpage. All works fine, except that it appears that an anonymous ftp user cannot use the command "DIR" and "ls -l" doesn't work (both report no files). This works fine for regular users. I simply copied /bin/ls to ~ftp/bin; I thought the problem may have been that ls couldn't find its libraries after the chroot, but copying libc.so to ~ftp/lib didn't help either. Any ideas on how to enable DIR for anonymous ftp users? Thanks, # Dave -- David M. Smith, Department of Mathematics and Statistics, Lancaster University <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> x3952 http://www.maths.lancs.ac.uk:2080/~maa036/
