Re: xprint probs
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: I finally got xprint (xprt-xprintorg + xprt-common) to work, but I had to hack /etc/init.d/xprint to make it start at all. It works now, but it prints everything in the Courier font. In August there was a thread on this list about this very problem, but the solution suggested (which involved installing a non-Debian mozilla in /usr/local) seems less than optimal and I don´t want to try that. Before giving up completely I have to ask: is there anyone who has xprint running properly? What special options need to be set? Regards, Jan I am using: 1. Mozilla 1.4-4 2. xprt-xprintgorg 0.0.8.cvs2003050 3. CUPS version 1.1.19 final All worked well "out of the box" without any edits to the initscripts. Dunno what your problem might be, as I haven't had any problems getting xprint to work correctly with Mozilla in Debian here. I am tracking Testing/Unstable, and I think most of the above packages may be from Unstable. Maybe you could explain "work" and "doesn't work" in a bit more detail?? Besides printing everything in Courier font (mine doesn't) what else didn't it do before you made the edits? What were the edits you had to make in the /etc/init.d/xprint file to make it "work"?? Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RealPlayer 8 plugin for Moz
Kent West wrote: I have RealPlayer8 installed, but I can't seem to get it to act as a plugin for Mozilla. I can manually run rp8 and watch realplayer files/etc, but some sites ( some new IBM Linux videos - http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/fun/# ) seem to require the plugin functionality. Anyone know how I can get the plugin installed into Mozilla? I copied the rpnp.so file into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, and that shows up in "about: plugins", but I still can't play that video clip. Thanks! In the RealPlayer8 window select "Help"-->"Mime Type/Plugin Install" and follow the directions there. I also have the "mozplugger" app installed. Dunno if it is needed or not, since I don't use RealPlayer all that much. I can get RealPlayer to come up on the above site OK here. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Screens found
Uwe Heinz Rudi Dippel wrote: -Original Message- From: Donald Spoon To: debian user Sent: 9/20/03 10:39 AM Subject: Re: No Screens found The above lines marked (WW) remind me of a similar error message I used to get when I was missing some key fonts packages. I would get a "No Screens Found" error and X wouldn't start. This used to be a packaging problem back in the pre-Woody days, but I haven't heard of it recently... until now. Maybe you are missing a font package or have not completely installed it... Newbie (on Debian). Out of the box, fresh, new partitions, tasksel. Actually, you might be right, I was assuming something similar, when I started X after the vanilla-install: Then the message was different: It couldn't write XF86Config; some .../X was missing. I found out that there was simply no XFree86, but *some* packets were there (xf86config ran without a hitch !). update / upgrade and even -f went without identifying a problem. Searching google I got the impression some packet was missing. Someone suggested tasksel, but X didn't show up any more as alternative to be selected (as compared to earlier). Then I apt-get that xfree86-common - or so - and then only it could write the XF86Config. That was actually when I thought of a packaging problem, since there were no error messages; tasksel is straightforward. What would now be the suggestion to a newbie ? I'd be tempted to a fresh install, but that sounds so Micro$oft-like. And if I still get it ? Or a problem on the mirror ? (sunsite, Switzerland) ? Maybe you could give some tips on what to check in case of a new install ? I have the following fonts packages installed here: xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable I'll try, but maybe I wasn't clear. The other card (half-spoiled RIVA TNT2) at least produced the grey hatched background and the mouse-cross, then I had to kill it (Ctrl-Alt-Backslash). Thanks, Uwe I didn't catch just how you originally installed Debian. If it was from CDs, it is possible you have an old set depending on just how you got the CDs. Assuming you have apt-get setup to pull packages off the internet from a Debian source site (mirror), it would probably be prudent to first upgrade ALL your packages to the most recent versions available by doing the following: "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" This might be enough to get all the packages installed and get X working... dunno. If it still isn't working, you can do a "re-install" of just X by using All of this is assuming you have apt-get setup to pull packages off the internet from a Debian source site (mirror).the commands: "apt-get update" "apt-get install --reinstall x-window-system" This should pull in any missing packages. Watch the process and make note of any errors in pulling down and installing the packages. If you have problems, doing an "apt-get -f install" will usually break you out of the log-jam. The actual error messages you get are MOST helpful in diagnosing problems. I still think you are missing some key packages... we just need to find out which ones. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No Screens found
Benedict Verheyen wrote: Op vr 19-09-2003, om 12:18 schreef Uwe Dippel: Sorry, I cannot post to the news-group online. Yes, I did register and get everything into my mailbox. Before I send the long stuff, in the meantime I tried all suggestions (> dpkg-reconfigure --priority=low --frontend=dialog xserver-xfree86 done. No success ...) (> Try defining vert and horyz refresh for your monitor in the XF86Config-4 > config file. Then define modes like "1024x768", etc and defaultdepth done. no success ) Curious, I stuck in a RIVA TNT/2, which worked. I tried the r128-driver, also no success. I even upgraded to unstable, everything okay, except of X. Don't tell me that card is gone: It works nicely from that exactly same hardware, only another partition (RedHat). From which I am writing here. Thanks to grub. Here come all the details: (here for ati instead of r128, but all the same result) # cat /mnt/ndata/log/XFree86.0.log | grep EE (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) No devices detected. # cat /mnt/ndata/log/XFree86.0.log | grep WW (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" does not exist. (WW) Cannot open APM [EMAIL PROTECTED] udippel]# > -SNIP- < The above lines marked (WW) remind me of a similar error message I used to get when I was missing some key fonts packages. I would get a "No Screens Found" error and X wouldn't start. This used to be a packaging problem back in the pre-Woody days, but I haven't heard of it recently... until now. Maybe you are missing a font package or have not completely installed it... I am even more suspicious of something like this happening since you are having problems with two different cards. Worth a check I have the following fonts packages installed here: xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: print HTML in "B" size
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
-SNIP- <
I use cups already, so that isn't a problem. /me wonders why mozilla
doesn't just query cups instead of creating yet another layer of
indirection which needs to be configured and only one app actually
uses it. Oh well. At least it makes mozilla work now!
I now have a couple different variations on the size and scaling of
the data printed on tabloid ("B") paper. This is what I was aiming
for :-).
Thanks!
-D
Glad it worked out. BTW, the "legal paper" was a typo.. I was just
trying to say the only size paper I have here is US "letter" (8X11)...
old age & Altzheimers running rampant again, I guess .
I have quite a few sizing options under Mozilla's print command that I
don't see in other programs. Maybe they are there and I haven't found
it yet... In fact, I have so many choices for what I do that I have a
hard time picking one... Most of the time any given program will
default to A4, which causes the bottom line or two on most html pages to
be clipped off here. I find that the "hp-us-letter" option seems to
capture the html pages best for me. You might want to experiment with
the various "B4" options available to see which one suits your needs.
Cheers,
-Don Spoon-
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Re: print HTML in "B" size
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: I want to print a certain web page[1], which includes color and images, on "B" size paper (aka "Ledger", 11"x17"). My printer can handle 11x17 just fine, but I don't know how to convert the HTML to PS for the printer. Neither galeon nor mozilla allow choosing that paper size, nor do they let me choose an arbitrary size. What tool(s) will fit the bill here? TIA! -D Hmm... my Mozilla (1.4-4) offers a "ledger" option under the "Print" --> "Properties" menu next to the selected printer. I don't have any legal paper here to test it out, though. It does print color from web pages quite nicely on "letter" sized paper from my HP Deskjet 960C. My current software setup here is: 1. Mozilla 1.4-4 2. xprt-xprintgorg 0.0.8.cvs2003050 3. CUPS version 1.1.19 final Dunno which of the above is needed or is the "key", but I suspect it is the first two at least. I started getting some different printer listings in the Mozilla print menu AFTER I got the xprt packages installed and working. They seem to pick up my "defined" printers in CUPS and add a "...@:64" to their names. Under the "Properties" menu I have a LOT of options on print sizes!! Much more than under CUPS alone. Dunno how it would work with other print systems. Cheers & Good Luck! -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 Config
Rishikesh wrote: I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X. How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got when I was installing debian. thank you Rishi dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or install gkdebconf package and run it on xserver-xfree86. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't access a site from Masqueraded host
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to understand why I can't access a host from my NAT network. I thought my firewall must be blocking. I enabled logging of dropped packets but still didn't see what wasn't working. So I disabled it and now have a very basic masquerading setup -- no dropping (shown below). NAT is working from my internal laptop: > -SNIP- < If you are able to connect to other sites from the internal network, and only have problems with this site (or maybe just a few others), I would suspect ECN is set on your NAT box. Check /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn and see if it is set to something other than 0 (zero). This is a "feature" in the 2.4.X kernels that isn't universally recognized among the routers on the Internet, and causes some sites to be mysteriously in-accessable. This option is usually selected at kernel compile time. I "think" you can change it on the fly by echoing a zero to this file... but I am not sure. You might want to search the archives on the keyword "ecn" I am sure it has been discussed here before. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove Debian
Yu Sun wrote: Hi, everyone, Maybe this question is easy. However I cannot find answers from manuals. I have installed Debain with Windows 98 on my notebook. Now I want to remove Debian, make this notebook dedicated to Windows. How should I do it? Thanks, Denis 1. make a Windows "rescue" disk that can boot and has the M$ "fdisk" program on it. 2. boot to a M$DOS prompt using the rescue disk and run the command "fdisk /mbr". This will remove any LILO stuff from the master boot record and restore Windows as the default boot OS. 3. You can then remove ALL traces of Debian / Linux by just removing their partitions with almost any disk partitioning software. I like Partition Magic for things like this..., but you should be able to use the M$ fdisk too. There are probably several other methods... the above is mine. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with KDE 3 upgrade
William Bradley wrote: -SNIP- < Hi Andreas, Tried you suggestion above and another couple of hours downloading went on. So obviously some bits were missing. When I boot to KDE now, KDE 3.1 loads and the standard icons come up on the screen but there is no panel at the bottom. When I right click the mouse I can make some changes but I can't find a way to get to the KDE control panel. Cheers, Bill. I had the same "problem" when I upgraded from KDE 2.2 to 3.1.X. The solution I found was to move the old ~/.kde directory out of the way and let KDE re-build it the next time I logged in. You could just delete the .kde directory, but that would remove any "history" you might want to save. I had to do this in all the "user" directories on my system, including the "root" directory. There may be a cleaner way, but I couldn't find it... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP printer saga
Donald Spoon wrote: J. Zidar wrote: --SNIP-- < The package hpijs is already installed. Cups packages installed: cupsys(1.1.14-5), cupsys-bsd(1.1.14-5), cupsys-client(1.1.14-5), cupsys-pstoraster(1.1.14-5), qtcups(2.0-4), hpijs (1.3.1-1.1), a2ps(4.13b-16), apsfilter(7.2.2-3), gcc(3.3), glibc(didn't find). The ppd file mentioned "foomatic-rip". When I searched the packages with apt I've found foomatic-bin, but it won't install because of some unmet dependencies (in such cases I usually install packages from unstable). I'm using stable with some packages from unstable. C YA and thank you so far, Jernej Zidar Mixing "stable" with "unstable" leads to a dependency nightmare, in my experience. This is especially true during major upgrades to gcc and glibc like what is going on right now. I would suggest sticking with one or the other, and not mixing them. I have frequent dependency-related problems here mixing "testing" and "unstable". I have a few suggestions based on the above info: 1. The "apsfilter" package is unnecessary with CUPS. I doubt it is a direct cause of your problem, but it might be causing some dependency problems. I suggest you purge it. 2. There are two different "foomatic-bin" packages. The one in "testing"/"ustable" is actually a dummy package that installs a set of other packagessignificantly the "foomatic-filters" package, which contains the "foomatic-rip" program! This program doesn't exist in the "stable" version of foomtic-bin or in any other package. Thus, your ppd driver seems to be requiring that you install the "unstable" or "testing" version of foomatic-bin! I would suggest you do this and resolve any depencency problems ablong the way. I know I have to have the foomatic-bin package installed here for my printer to work with the ppd from linuxprinting.org. 3. Alternatively, I have had luck with the generic "hp-900 series" driver from the "cupsys-driver-gimpprint" package on my HP 960C printer. I note that this package has a driver for the "hp-600 series" printers, which might work ok for you. HTH, -Don Spoon- Appologies for replying to my own post, but I also just noticed you are running the CUPS packages from "stable"... like you implied. I am running the packages from "testing" here, and everything is working OK for me.Something on your system is wanting to use the "foomatic-rip" program, which ony seems to exist in the "testing" / "unstable" versions of foomatic-bin. This just re-emphasizes my suggestion that you select a given dist version and stick with it. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP printer saga
J. Zidar wrote: After realizing that I must enable loopback device, I configured Cups to use my HP 656c printer. From www.linuxprinting.org I have downloaded the ppd file and copied it to the /usr/share/cups/model/. The configuration went without any problems. I set up KDE to use Cups but when I sent something to be printed, nothing happens. What should I do? thanks to anyone, Jernej Zidar Messages from cups's error_log: I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] Job 2 queued on 'printercek' by 'zidar'. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 6575) for job 2. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 6576) for job 2. E [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] PID 6576 stopped with status 22! I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 6577) for job 2. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:29 +0200] Saving printers.conf... I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Saving printers.conf... I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 6579) for job 2. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 6580) for job 2. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 6581) for job 2. I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Saving printers.conf... I [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] Printer 'printercek' started by 'root'. E [06/Aug/2003:21:34:42 +0200] PID 6580 stopped with status 22! E [06/Aug/2003:21:34:51 +0200] restart_job: job #2 cannot be restarted - no files! Message from syslog: Aug 6 21:35:48 kompi hpijs: unable to init hpijs server Check the pppd file you got from www.linuxprinting.org. I suspect it also needs the hpijs package to work properly. If so, you will have to install it (the hpijs package). If this is NOT the problem (hpijs package already installed) come on back with the CUPS packages you have installed and the VERSIONS. I am currenely running the packages from "unstable" and they have (or used to have) a few "gotchas" to get running. It involved the glibc and gcc transition going on right now. The ones from stable or testing were OK about a month ago. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP printer saga
J. Zidar wrote: --SNIP-- < The package hpijs is already installed. Cups packages installed: cupsys(1.1.14-5), cupsys-bsd(1.1.14-5), cupsys-client(1.1.14-5), cupsys-pstoraster(1.1.14-5), qtcups(2.0-4), hpijs (1.3.1-1.1), a2ps(4.13b-16), apsfilter(7.2.2-3), gcc(3.3), glibc(didn't find). The ppd file mentioned "foomatic-rip". When I searched the packages with apt I've found foomatic-bin, but it won't install because of some unmet dependencies (in such cases I usually install packages from unstable). I'm using stable with some packages from unstable. C YA and thank you so far, Jernej Zidar Mixing "stable" with "unstable" leads to a dependency nightmare, in my experience. This is especially true during major upgrades to gcc and glibc like what is going on right now. I would suggest sticking with one or the other, and not mixing them. I have frequent dependency-related problems here mixing "testing" and "unstable". I have a few suggestions based on the above info: 1. The "apsfilter" package is unnecessary with CUPS. I doubt it is a direct cause of your problem, but it might be causing some dependency problems. I suggest you purge it. 2. There are two different "foomatic-bin" packages. The one in "testing"/"ustable" is actually a dummy package that installs a set of other packagessignificantly the "foomatic-filters" package, which contains the "foomatic-rip" program! This program doesn't exist in the "stable" version of foomtic-bin or in any other package. Thus, your ppd driver seems to be requiring that you install the "unstable" or "testing" version of foomatic-bin! I would suggest you do this and resolve any depencency problems ablong the way. I know I have to have the foomatic-bin package installed here for my printer to work with the ppd from linuxprinting.org. 3. Alternatively, I have had luck with the generic "hp-900 series" driver from the "cupsys-driver-gimpprint" package on my HP 960C printer. I note that this package has a driver for the "hp-600 series" printers, which might work ok for you. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RealTek 8139 Problems
Robert Tilley wrote: When I installed my system with the Debian 3.0 CD, kernel 2.2.0 was installed. I selected to install the RealTek 8139 drivers and my NIC has been functioning perfectly. I've attempted to install 2.4.19, 2.4.21, and 2.6.0-test2. During a menuconfig, I specify the RealTek 8139 drivers to be installed as part of the kernel. However, when I reboot into the fresh kernel my NIC is undetected and I have no internet access. I must reboot into 2.2.0 if my NIC is to be used. I've even gone so far as to install _all_ RealTek drivers and no luck. Any ideas? Bob -- Comments are most appreciated, Robert Tilley On my machine the older rtl8139.o "realtek driver" module worked just fine with the 2.2.XX series, and the more recent 8139too.o "realtek driver" module also worked. I normally used the older driver because I was used to it & it worked. When the 2.4.XX kernels came out the older driver module (rtl8139.o) didn't seem to be available and I had to switch to the 8139too.o module. The need for this switch was not immediately apparent, except I couldn't get my network going with the new kernel... a sympto similar to yours. You might check which module you are trying to load in the 2.4.XX kernel series mentioned and make sure it is the more recent 8139too.o module. The places to check are in your /etc/modules file and in modconf. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Stable Distribution
Shashank Bhide wrote: Hello Folks, Where could I find the distribution for the Old Stable (Potato)? I searched debian.org but could not find it at all. TIA Shashank Try this: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/ I see "Potato" listed there. There also used to be an archive site for debian... dunno if it is still up or not as it used to be rather "spotty". It had ALL of the past releases archived there. You can find more about it with a pointer to the archive at: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Static IP config
Kelley Hilborn wrote: Okay, with the /etc/network/interfaces file looking like this: auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 This looks OK. Your card should be setup automatically upon bootup. Right after a bootup, do an "ifconfig" and make sure it shows the above stuff. You should be able to ping your "gateway" machine by IP number if it is working at this point. And my resolv.conf looking like this:(/etc/resolv.conf didn't exist I had to create it) nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 192.168.0.1 nameserver 68.116.216.6 Do you have your "gateway" machine setup as a DNS server for your LAN? If not, the first two entries are meaningless for this machine. Since name lookups will cycle through these in order, you are introducing an artificial delay in name lookups here If 192.168.0.1 isn't a nameserver. If this confuses you, then you probably don't have it setup as a DNS machine... Where did you get the IP numbers for your third "nameserver"? If that is what your ISP told you, then it is ok. I would plug in one of the "real" DNS server IPs for your ISP. I did a lookup for the nameservers for pdq.net and got the following: 206.66.10.46 207.158.92.26 207.158.92.18 209.196.76.10 209.196.96.18 Nothing works at first, and I occasionally get the error message with ifup: /etc/network/interfaces:14: duplicate option couldn't read interfaces file: "/etc/network/interfaces" Recheck you /etc/network/interfaces file. The above says there is a "duplicate option" in line 14 that confuses the shell and networking is NOT be started. If you are having problems with format of the /etc/network/interfaces file or introducing typos, try installing the etherconf package and answer the questions there. It will create the correct files for you... including the /etc/resolv.conf file. I can't ping anything at all, until I type: This probably means the card is not getting initialized for the network. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.101 netmask 255.255.255.0 By doing this, you are by-passing the /etc/network/interfaces files and manually initializing the card. This tells you that the driver module is correct and the card CAN be configured for your network. This re-inforces the error message that you are getting above. Then I can ping anything on my personal network, but nothing outside of it. By IP or name... Do you have the "gateway" machine set up to provide some sort of NAT like IPMASQUERADING? If you don't, then you will not be able to "see" anything beyond your private network that you are using. Those IP numbers are not "routable" on the Internet. I suspect this is one of your main problems IF you cannot ping anything beyond the gateway machine. BTW, does the "gateway" machine connect to the Internet OK?? HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97 [SOLVED]
Josh Metzler wrote: -SNIP- < So, it seems to me that linux thinks the sound chip is a VT8233. I'm satisfied now that sound works, but I'll do any more probing you want if you are still curious. Thanks so much, Josh No need for anything else on this end! After all it is YOUR MB & not mine ;)...doubt if I could use the info anytime soon anyway. I suspect it is time to call it a "VICTORY" and press-on to other matters! Congrats! Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97
Josh Metzler wrote: -SNIP- < Ok, before writing the above, I had installed the stock debian kernel-image-2.4.20-3-686, along with alsa-modules-2.4.20-3-686, alsa-base, alsa-headers, and alsa-utils. I had not run alsamixer to unmute the sound. I have now done so, but still no luck. alsamixer settings: Master: 52 Master Mono: 52 3D Control - Center: 53Josh Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3D Control - Depth: 53 3D Control - Switch: 0 (won't go up) PCM: 52 Surround: 52 Surround Down Mix: 0 (won't go up) I don't use alsamixer here... the mixer that comes with KDE worked fine for me. Can't say much about these settings... sound related modules as listed by lspci: I hope you mean "as reporded by lsmod"... . snd-seq-oss29408 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 2984 0 [snd-seq-oss] snd-seq36496 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss39972 0 snd-mixer-oss 13592 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-via82xx13248 0 snd-pcm60836 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-via82xx] snd-timer 14212 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 39752 0 [snd-via82xx] snd-page-alloc 5020 0 [snd-via82xx snd-pcm] snd-mpu401-uart 3296 0 [snd-via82xx] snd-rawmidi13312 0 [snd-mpu401-uart]snd-via82xx snd-seq-device 4192 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd30244 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-via82xx snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 3940 6 [snd] All of the above are the same as mine, except I don't have the "snd-page-alloc" listed. This means that your setup of ALSA is probably OK if these modules are getting loaded automatically, AND if you indeed have the 8233/AC97 sound combo. More on this later... As my speakers only have one jack and there are two places for speaker jacks on the back of the MB, I'm not certain which one I should use. With the volume up on the speakers, I get static touching either one with the jack, but I also get no sound with it plugged into either one. I picked the darker green one, which is closer in color to the speaker jack.snd-page-alloc Your MB should have three 1/8 inch "phono" jacks on the back... all in a row. With these three jacks positioned to be viewed to the RIGHT of the keyboard/ps2 mouse pair, then going from LEFT to RIGHT they are: snd-via82xx 1. Line out < you should use this one with AMPLIFIED speakers! 2. Line in 3. Mic in As I don't know much about how sound works in gnu/linux, it is possible I'm not testing it correctly. Additional info is that I am running KDE. There's no sound from it either, but I'm not sure how that might affect my ability to play sound from the command line. I figure I should get sound working from the command line before working on KDE. The one remaining variable that I hinted about above is that your MB doesn't use the same chipset as mine. I looked at the manual for your board posted at the Shuttle site and it says you have a VT8235 plus a RealTek ALC650 Codec ( a six channel AC97 style codec). Obviously your hardware is different from mine, so the above settings may NOT be the correct ones... The ALSA site says the snd-via82xx driver is ok... dunno. Could you forward the "real" results of lspci?? ;) I would be interested in what LINUX thinks you have Try firing up kde and see what happens. You won't hurt anything, and it might give you some clues from it's complaints... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SBC/Yahoo DSL with Debian?
Ric Otte wrote: Hi, I saw that SBC/Yahoo had a DSL offer of $30 a month, and I called them up to ask if it would work with Linux. The woman at tech support confidently assured me, over and over, that it would not work with Linux. I spoke to her a long time, trying to figure out why it wouldn't work. She said that since they use pppoe and not dhcp, I couldn't get an ip address with a dhcp client. But Debian has a pppoe package, and there are also things like rp-pppoe. Although she could not explain to me why it wouldn't work, she was absolutely positive it wouldn't. The modem/router they give out as part of the deal is a Homeportal 1000sw. I checked that on the web, and it looks to me as if it uses pppoe to connect to SBC, and then assigns either static or dynamic ip addresses to computers plugged into it. It also says that it is Linux compatible. So I find it very difficult to believe that Linux will not work with SBC DSL service, unless they are intentionally doing something to prevent Linux users from using their service. So I was wondering if anyone is using SBC DSL, or knows if it will work. Any info would be appreciated; thanks. Ric You might want to pose this question to a local Linux User's Group in your area. I know the one here (San Antonio, TX) has lots of users using DSL from SBC. Local Linux users can give you a much more accurate answer. PPoE shouldn't be a problem with Linux. Maybe they provide some "setup" programs on a CD or Floppy that have to be installed for their "setup", and they only work on Winders or a Mac... dunno. Do they offer a "self-install" option? You also might be interested in the DSL howto at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DSL-HOWTO/index.html There is a lot of good info on setup there. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No sound - onboard VIA VT8233 AC97
Josh Metzler wrote: I would appreciate any advice anyone can give me as to how to get sound working on my new box. The mother board is the Shuttle AV49N, which has onboard VIA VT8233 AC97 sound. I have been testing with cat reflect.au > /dev/dsp. (reflect.au is a sound that comes with kbounce.) This returns with no messages, but also with no sound coming out the speakers. Thanks in advance, Josh I have a different Shuttle MB model that has the VT8233 / AC97 chipset in it. Sound is working OK with ALSA here. I believe I had it working at one time with the kernel's built-in OSS drivers too, but I can only help with the ALSA setup now. Tell me what you have done so far, and which kernel version you are using. The pre-compiled ALSA files only come compiled against a couple of the available kernels now. If you want to use ALSA, you first must get one of these kernels installed or compile your own version of ALSA against your kernel from the source. I would advise going the pre-compiled route. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba Access
Shawn Lamson wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:07:05 -0500 Donald Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I struggled getting the Windows ---> Samba ---> CUPS ---> HP printer route going here. The solution I finally wound up using was to use a "Post Script" driver on the Windows machine. I used the "generic" PS windows driver from Adobe, but if your printer has one already available in Windows, then you could probably use it. The regualar HP PCL drivers in Windows "should" be able to be made to work, but I never got the right combo. CUPS will accept PS input just fine. Don could you possibly detail the way you implemented this? What would a Windows user do to print? Or if you know this is documented somewhere please give me the link. Thank you, Shawn Lamson 1. The first step was to get CUPS working as a network print server. Dunno if this is absolutely necessary, but I did it here because I have a mixed linux/windows network of 5 machines on the LAN. I can expand upon this step if you want... I have found the steps needed to complete this vary depending on which version of CUPS you are using. I am currently using the one from Debian "unstable". 2. The second was to setup SAMBA per the directions. I believe it took only 1 or 2 edits on the /etc/samba/smb.conf file These are the lines I changed: printing = cups printcap name = /etc/printcap.cups You might need to do some stuff in the [Printers] section of the file. I don't think I changed anything there. 3. Install a PostScript driver on the Windows machines. All I did was get the "Generic Postscript Driver" for Windows from the ADOBE web site and installed it on the windows machine(s). http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html The installer leads you through the setup, including hooking up to a network printer. You could also do the same with an existing PS driver already on the Windows install, I think. I haven't tried this Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compile options for standard debian kernel?
Neal Lippman wrote: Is there a way to find out the config options that were used for compiling the standard 2.4.19 kernel that comes with stable or testing? I need to compile a new kernel as the stock kernel does not seem to have the udf file system support enabled, but it would be handy to know what was compiled in the distributed kernel vs modules, etc, so that I don't mess up my system configuration when I configure the new kernel. nl If you installed your current 2.4.19 kernel from a Debian "kernel-image" deb, then you will have a copy of the ".config" file used to create it in your /boot/ directory. It will probably be named something like: "config-2.4.19-k7". BTW, here is what my 2.4.19-k7 kernel config file says about UDF: CONFIG_UDF_FS=m # CONFIG_UDF_RW is not set Looks like it is already setup as a loadable module for read-only support. You might try modconf and see it it is listed there... it is listed on my system. If it is, try loading it and see what happens. It might save you the trouble of a re-compile... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I install KMess?
peted wrote: I am trying to install kmess_1.2.1-1_i386.deb. How do I install it? When I try apt-get install Kmess, I get a message about it being in the database but no available version and that it may have been mentioned in a dependecy... etc.. I downloaded it from SourceForge.net and saved it to a directory. I tried this dpkg -I kmess_1.2.1-1_i386.deb Try using a lower case "i" instead of "I" in your command...i.e. "dpkg -i kmess_1.2.1-1_i386.deb" if you want to install it. The capital "I" will provide info on the package. Reference: man dpkg...: "dpkg can be also be used as a front-end to dpkg-deb. The following are dpkg-deb actions, and if they are encountered, dpkg just runs dpkg-deb with the parameters given to it: -b, --build, -c, --contents, -I, --info, -f, --field, -e, --control, -x, --extract, -X, --vextract, and --fsys-tarfile. Please refer to dpkg-deb(1) for information about these actions." Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FW: going from ethernet to ppp only
drew cohan wrote: Sorry about the HTML email from before. -Original Message- From: Drew Cohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: going from ethernet to ppp only Hi, I’ve set up a machine with woody using an ethernet card and now that particular machine will be moved to a location with only dialup access. I’ve removed the NIC and I’ve got PPP working fine using an internal modem. I’d like to know how to properly transition the setup from Ethernet to PPP only. My thoughts are these 1) Comment out the “eth0” stanza in /etc/network/interfaces and 2) Comment out “ee100pro” in /etc/modules or 3) Optionally recompile kernel to remove extraneous bits (currently stock kernel): can I remove support for Ethernet cards but keep support for TCP/IP? I’m thinking that perhaps I’d want to keep support for NICs anyway for future maintenance. Are there any other steps I need to perform to transition from ethernet to dialup only on this machine? Thanks! Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally, I wouldn't even worry about it, unless you have limited memory or HD space and want to run an absolutely "minimal" system. I have run a IPMasq setup here for years with BOTH a NIC (for the home LAN) and PPP for the external dial-up connection without problems. I think the increased memory usage to support both is minimal, and the chances of messing something up are increased everytime you try to remove something that is working...a form of "Murphy's Law". . That said, you seem to have the steps I would do figured out already. Commenting out the lines as you suggest is probably the easiest and "best", IMHO. It preserves a "working" setup for future use/reference if needed. Re-compiling the kernel to remove un-needed modules?? I wouldn't... just because of Murphy's law again. If it is working, don't "fix" it!! The modules are just taking up some disk space. They don't use any memory until inserted. Also you never know what you might need in the future... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sndconfig problems: sound only works until reboot
Joris Huizer wrote: Hello everybody, I don't know wether this is important so to be sure I send this. In an old email I found somebody suggesting lspci; Here is the output: 00:00.0 Host bridge: OPTi Inc. 82C701 [FireStar Plus] (rev 32) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: OPTi Inc. 82C700 (rev 31) 00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01) 00:0a.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1131 (rev 01) 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: Neomagic Corporation NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD] (rev 01) 00:13.0 USB Controller: OPTi Inc. 82C861 (rev 10) 00:14.0 IDE interface: OPTi Inc. 82C825 [Firebridge 2] (rev 30) Now, I thind this output a bit confusing: Not a word about ESS 1869, so does this mean this laptop doesn't have that card?? I saw at a few pages this card is normally used on Compaq Pressario 1245 - but why isn't it showing up?? Or is it named differently somehow? Can this output help anyone help me what the sndconfig does to make sound work - temporarily :-( ? It tells me that the sound chip ISN'T hooked directly to the PCI bus. It is probably sitting off the ISA bus, and probably ISN'T Plug & Play. More helpful to me is your origianl post saying you got it working with the SoundBlaster drivers via Sndconfig, but the settings disappear when you re-boot. I suspect what is happening is the proper modules & settings are being inserted into memory via modprobe, but the file changes needed to re-load these modules on the next re-boot are NOT being made. I have not used Sndconfig here recently, but as I recall it first tested the system with the requested modules & settings, THEN wrote the proper changes to /etc/modutils/sndconfig file if they worked. I am not sure what it did after that, but once this file is written, it "should" have run "update-modules" to re-write the /etc/modules.conf file with the new settings. This is the file that is read at every bootup to insert the desired modules. You shouldn't edit the /etc/modules.conf file directly, but let it be re-written by "update-modules". I suggest you take a look and see if the "/etc/modutils/sndconfig" file is present on your system. It "should" be there as a result of your previous incantation of Sndconfig. If it is there, just run the command "update-modules" as root, and try a re-boot. That should make it work. If it isn't there, you should re-run sndconfig and make sure you "save" the changes. Check /etc/modutils/sndconfig to make sure it is there and jump into the above routine. Finally, it is possible that Sndconfig is not doing what it is supposed to do. It could be "broken" (have you checked the buglists?) or something else is interfering with it. I noticed in previous posts that you had experimented with ALSA. ALSA will work, but I have found it to be a bit more difficult to setup. IF you have any ALSA stuff still on your system, it could easily be interfering with the OSS sound setup used by sndconfig. I would suggest sticking with one or the other. IF you want to use sndconfig, remove all the ALSA packages. IF sndconfig isn't writing the file mentioned above, you could always try inserting the needed modules with the "modconf" program. Once you know which ones are needed, then using modconf will insure they get inserted properly and will be re-loaded upon the next reboot. BTW, this is just an "educated guess". I don't have that particular sound chipset here... BTW, I put a question on a forum but after one response (and my answer) they got silent - is this an unusual problem or something ? I went to the Debian-User Archives and searched on your name in order to review the original post on this subject. I notice you have over 30 posts to Debian-User on a variety of subjects... most with LOTS of answers! I think you should be able to answer your question with a little thinking. People DO help... when they think they have something to contribute... I suspect not too many people have run into your particular "problem" on this one. Personally, I feel a bit uncomfortable "guessing" at a solution to your problem since I don't have your equipment here, but I thought I would add the above "generalities" for whatever they are worth. If you think about it, lists like this one NEVER solved a "problem"... all they do is point you in the proper direction for YOU to solve it! After all you are the one at the keyboard and with the hardware... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Test the network
Piero wrote: I believe I have, after many pains, istalled the network. But I have not installed X window. How can I test if it works? (My box is connected to my Isp line through a Nat box that cotains a dhcp server). Thanks, Piero. Ping some sites outside your local network. This will probably tell you all you want to know, and can help pin-point the location(s) of any difficulty. In fact there are several command-line programs that make use of the internet... Lynx, ftp, telnet, traceroute, dig, host, etc. Any of these would work for you, but I think the "ping" program is probably the most useful diagnostic to see if it is working. Other "diagnostics" that I use to locate networking problems are "ifconfig" and "route". These two help find problems on the config and/or setup of your machine(s). Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get MOzilla to print to Cups printer through kprint
Jeremy Petzold wrote: On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:08 pm, Donald Spoon wrote: Jeremy Petzold wrote: how can you get mozilla to print to the cups printer I have? be it through kprint or directly through cups? I could not find any info on it in mozilla help so I am hoping that one of you may have had an experience with this. thanks, Jeremy If you have the "cupsys-bsd" package installed, then the "Default/Postscript" selection in Mozilla works just fine for me. Recent changes in X (from testing) have introduced Xprint on my system, which I am just starting to expore. It is supposed to interface recent versions of Mozilla with CUPS too, but I don't know enuf about it to be able to advise you...sorry. Cheers, -Don Spoon doe sit just send the data directly to cups? I would guess so... I don't have anything else installed on my system that would accept it! (Like lprng, lpr, etc). I don't really know the physical routing the Mozilla stuff takes, but it eventually winds up in the CUPS printing system without any extra effort on my part. Just hit "print" in Mozilla, accept the "default/postscript printer" and it does it's thing... -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get MOzilla to print to Cups printer through kprint
Jeremy Petzold wrote: how can you get mozilla to print to the cups printer I have? be it through kprint or directly through cups? I could not find any info on it in mozilla help so I am hoping that one of you may have had an experience with this. thanks, Jeremy If you have the "cupsys-bsd" package installed, then the "Default/Postscript" selection in Mozilla works just fine for me. Recent changes in X (from testing) have introduced Xprint on my system, which I am just starting to expore. It is supposed to interface recent versions of Mozilla with CUPS too, but I don't know enuf about it to be able to advise you...sorry. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla idealab link
Paul M Foster wrote: I'm running testing, and the Mozilla that comes with it. Every time I start the program, it goes to a local page on my hard drive which has my favorite links on it. Immediately thereafter, before I do anything else, it jumps to http://find.idealab.com. This is pretty obnoxious behavior. I've cleaned out caches, removed and blocked all cookies, etc. I've even scanned all the mozilla files in my ~/.mozilla directories for the idealab string. No matter what, it still does it. Anyone know why? Is there a fix for this? Paul You have to modify the "startup" page from the Debian defaults. Under "Edit" --> "Preferences" --> "Navigator" select "Home page" as the startup display, then type in your favorite URL under the "Home Page" section in the middle. If you go to the "favorite" or startup page in Mozilla before you do the above you can simply select the option "Use Current Page". Once you do this Mozilla should startup in your "home" page selected above. This has always worked for me here Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need this scanner working for a report!
Paladin wrote:
Hi guys!
I have a HP ScanJet 3200C. I've read about this online and installed
sane and configured the umax_pp backend. I've selected the EPP mode
in the bios and compiled the parport, parport_pc, ppdev and lp
modules. Even so, in /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport0/active there's
no active devices in there! (Yes, everything is connected!;)
So, I've ran out of ideas and am needing this urgently for a report!
Any success stories out there??
Thanks in advance to everyone! =)
---
Paladin
I got this same scanner working under Debian testing/unstable about a
month ago, and had the same "problem" initially. Here is an exerpt from
a "feedback" message I sent to the package maintainer:
"... I have one observation on the installation for your consideration.
This is specific for the HP 3200C scanner, a parallel-port scanner and
a clone of the UMAX 1220P, and is from a "newbie" perspective. The
documentation was most helpful in getting my setup going, with one
possible exception/omission. I got "hung-up" initially because my
fairly recent Debian "testing / unstable" install had NOT created
/dev/parport0 in the /dev directory. I kept getting "no scanners found"
errors. Once I figured this out, I easily created the necessary devices
with a "./MAKEDEV -v parport" in the /dev directory. This created the 3
parport devices owned by "root" and in the "lp" group. After doing
this, the scanner was recognized and everything worked as advertised
from a root login. I had to correct the permissions to enable it
working from a "user" account. Alternatively, I found that just adding
my "users" that I wanted to have access to the scanner to the "lp" group
worked just as well. ..."
The maintainer was quite nice about this feedback and submitted the
following:
Julien BLACHE wrote:
> -SNIP - <
>
> Oh, just realised /dev/lp* and /dev/parport* aren't the same
> thing. Well... If you already installed sane 1.0.10-{1,2}, you
> probably noticed the Debconf dialog to create the usbscanner device
> nodes, so if you want I can add another dialog for the parport device
> nodes. Would that suit you ?
I don't know which version of SANE you installed, or if this has made it
into the currently available version yet or not, BUT you might give this
a try. BTW, don't bother with messing around with the permissions
created by the MAKDEV command. Just add the users you want to have
access to the scanner to the "lp" group. You can scan and import
directly from GIMP after it is working! Neat!!
If you are really in a hurry, feel free to contact me directly, and we
can compare installs in an attempt to get you going ASAP.
Cheers,
-Don Spoon-
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Re: How do I get the install disks to recognize my network?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 23:35:41 -0500
John Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Once again, a million thanks for all your help. Despite my continuing
inability to install, everyone's help is really quite appreciated, and
is truly making me feel I've made the right choice in distros to
attempt.
Are you entering "bf24" at the very first ("boot:") prompt?
Kevin
Just to tack on to Kevin's question/suggestion...
An old problem that used to produce the same symptoms was having the
BIOS set to use PnP. This "should not" be a problem with the 2.4.XX
kernels, but it wouldn't hurt to go into the BIOS and poke around for a
"PnP" setting. The various BIOS manufacturers have cleverly disguised
this so there is no standard, but if you see a setting about either
"Microsoft OS" or "PnP OS" set it to "No" or "off". I have some MBs
here that absolutely will NOT recognize my RTL8139 - based NICs until I
do this. I get the same sort of messages
Good Luck!
Cheers,
-Don Spoon-
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Re: (OT) low-power home server
Shri Shrikumar wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-15 at 11:20, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: [...] I should have thought that there must be a market for such a thing, with so many people running home networks, but so far I haven't found any suppliers of things like this. Maybe I haven't been looking in the right places. Any ideas? There is no real point for this market. The lowest spec machine brand new probably cost around £250(Probably around $250 in the US) without monitor. With this as the price for a machine with probably 1.2Ghz, 512Mb RAM and 40Gb Hard drive - who wants to pay more than around£50 for an old 500Mhz with 128Mb RAM . If you skip the hard drive, you could probably save another $50 but I wouldn't recommend this - the new harddrives are *very* big and *much* faster. Something else you can do is replace one of your other machines with a new one and put that as the server - I did this a couple of times. Very worthwhile. HTH, Shri Something that I have been mulling over is building something like this out of the "mini-ITX" Motherboard. I got one of these MBs for my son last Christmas, and he obtained a special-made case for it. He is using it for the center of a homemade "arcade" game machine, but it could also be easily used for a home lan router/firewall/etc. The whole setup is significantly smaller than any current "regular" computer that you can buy. It has decent specs and doesn't use a fan so it is quiet. There isn't any room for expansion cards, but that should't be a factor for you. I think the cost of this MB + case was about $250 as Shri indicated above. That cost would go up depending upon Memory, etc. The link to the main site is: http://www.mini-itx.com/. You can Google for other sources around the net. We got the MB from: http://www.cyberguys.com and got quite decent (timely) service from them. Just another idea... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux
Roberto Sanchez wrote: I seem to have a small problem that maybe someone on the list can help with. I belong to a small organization on campus. We currently have some very old (circa 1995-1996) PCs running Win95. These machines have Pentium 150-166 CPUs and 32 MB RAM. They are in need of replacement for several reasons. Including speed (they are just too slow now), software problems (many problems with viruses and people installing all sorts of crap on the machines), and some of the hardware has begun to fail. The budget is $1000-1200 (max). My solution (I was asked for my opinion, as I am seen as pretty computer savvy) was for us to go to Walmart and purchase 4 to 6 Linux boxes for $200-$300 each. My rationale was: 1. Cheaper (all of the CRTs are just fine and can be reused) 2. Easier to control people's access (i.e., individual user accounts or very restricted "guest" accounts) 3. Security (enough said) 4. More than sufficient for the tasks (web browsing, checking email, working on assignments with word processor/spreadsheet and presentations) The "solution" that they decided on (not yet implemented) is to keep the aging machines and purchase one new Dell machine with WinXP/OfficeXP. Their rationale: 1. Unwillingness to give up familiarity of MS Windows interface I explained that if that was the inly concern, we could install a Win9X desktop theme over whatever window manager we used. I even demonstrated the import/export features of OpenOffice.org (to assuage another concern about not being able to open/use MS formatted docs). Their response: Oh well, that's nice, we are getting the new Dell. It troubles me that the organization is throwing away money that we don't have. Obviously, I am a proponent of Linux. But, I feel quite strongly about this because of the financial impact. If we had a $6000 replacement budget and another $1-$2 in the bank, I would not be as concerned if they wanted to stick to MS (I hardly use the computers myself). But the leadership refuses to budge, and I feel that they are just throwing money away and not doing anything to solve the problem. Has anyone encountered this? How was this handled? What was the outcome? What can I do? -Roberto Sanchez I know this doesn't answer your question, but perhaps a "story" of another school's experiences with re-cycling old computers would provide some ammunition? Perhaps a "demo" would help?? The link for thet remote X terminals is: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html This link is really a "HOWTO" on using old computers as remote X terminals in a University Lab environment. Maybe it would give you some ideas. A similar setup could be done using VNC and it can access Windows as well as Linux "servers". You could have both worlds and keep everyone happy... The VNC info links are: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ http://www.realvnc.com/ The old AT&T labs at Cambridge is now defunct, but there is still some good info at that link. The "realvnc.com" link is the currently active work. It works!! Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian install with Promise ATA100
Adam Stroud wrote: Where can I get the kernel modules to load at install time so that Deb can see my harddrives on my ATA controllers?? I am new to debian so be nice :) Cheers Are you talking about the Promise ATA RAID controller (Fastrack100 TX2), or just their "Ultra100 TX2" controller card that supports 4 ATA 100 drives? If it is the latter, I have a couple of them in Linux (Debian) machines and I didn't have to add any modules. The 2.4.18bf-4 kernel used for installs detected that card just fine. I have subsequently upgraded to the full 2.4.18, 2.4.19, and 2.4.20 kernels and all worked fine w/o any additional modules. Can't help you on the RAID card. never owned one. The only problem I had was getting it to work "nice" with the MB's built-in IDE controllers. The ULTRA100-TX2 cards HDs were detected as hde, hdf, hdg, and hdh. The on-board controllers captured and held onto the hda-hdd HD ids, even if I turned them off in the BIOS. The Linux kernel would still know they were there and use them! There is probably a work-around, but it hasn't been a "problem" for me. I found out that you want to keep your CDROM hooked up to the on-board controllers IF you want to preserve the ability to boot off a CDROM! HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Boot Process
Kris wrote: Ok I am trying to do some fancy stuff and need to know how the debian 2.4.18 boot process works. Ok ouch I will compare. If for example I wanted to know the step by step process of an msdos system I would say something like It loads the kernel in msdos.sys and io.sys then it loads the command.com command interpriter. then it runs the devices installed in c:\config.sys then it runs all the commands in the autoexec.bat then either returns a prompt or launches windows. Well I need this in a debian format. So first lilo directs to which kernel then what where and how is it loaded next. Does it load the modueles before init or after. Where does init load from. I found the info in the "Linux Bootdisk HOWTO" (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/index.html"; to be quite useful in understanding the General boot process up through the calling of init. This HOWTO is obviously oriented towards making a bootdisk, but it seems to explain just why you have to do certain things, including the use of RAMDISK, etc. It might not answer all your questions, but it should round-out your information pool... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian
Abdul Latip wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, D. wrote: Use Mandrake GNU/Linux installation CD :-) Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 Well, unfortunately, I am trying to sell "Debian" through "Knoppix"; not "Mandrake" :^). I believe that he was giving you another option that would partition your disk using something other than FIPS. Sure, but what I have in mind is trying to introduce Debian to the "You-Know-What" operating system users. The first step would be just giving away Knoppix CDROMs. Then, if they say something like "this is great", there should be away for easily resizeing a FAT/NTFS file system. Perhaps, I should wait until "qtpartd" reaches the "testing" level. Currently, it is still "sid". And, I am not sure if it is a good idea for using sid's "libc6" now. regards, Actually, the libc6 in SID just transferred into "testing" last week. This is a sign it is pretty close to being OK, if not there already. I have been using the glibc from SID for quite some time without seeing any of the reported "problems". From what I have heard, the most significant problems recently has been getting a working version across all 11 CPU types supported. I personally wouldn't let the new libc6 hold you back... especially if you are looking mainly at the i386 arch. It has worked for me just fine... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Onboard rtl8139 works in 2.2 kernel but not in 2.4 kernel, pleasehelp
Jonathan Matthews wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:07:10AM -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote: Hi, [snip rtl8139 problems] No idea if this is feasible here, but my favourite way of solving 8139 problems is to put a decent nic in the box (Intel EtherExpress, Tulip, LinkSys - maybe, etc.) and ignore the PoS RTL. Seriously - drop £20-30 on a well thought-out nic and you'll not go far wrong :-) Sorry if that's not a possibility in this case, but it's the simplest and best way to deal with it! Cheers, jc I have lost the OP's message, so I will reply to this one instead in the hopes it gets seen. Over the last 4-5 months of monitoring this list, I have seen a "handfull" of complaints like this involving various NICs. IIRC, most of them have involved the RTL 8139 chipset but I could be wrong on this. Usually it works OK in the 2.2.XX kernels, but doesn't work in the 2.4.XX kernels. This "problem" isn't universal to all MotherBoards and NIC combos...i.e. I am running the 2.4.19 kernel here (from Debian) and a RTL8139 NIC with the 8139too module w/o problems! There have been several "solutions" posted... you might want to search the past few months of Debian-User on the topic "APIC". I can't find a specific one right now, so here is what I recall off the top of my head: 1. Try turning APIC "off" in the BIOS if you can. It seems that if the BIOS pre-configures it, then the kernel can become "confused", and has been reported to lock the system at boot-time. 2. Try passing the command "append=noapic" to the kernel via LILO (edit /etc/lilo.conf and add this line). 3. Recompile your kernel and turn off APIC support. Dunno if this is your problem, but the first two "solutions" look pretty easy to try if you can... I am using the RTL8139 chipset here on about 4 different machines, using different 2.4.XX kernels w/o problems of any kind. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gimp & gimp print
Dave Selby wrote: I have installed gimp print & CUPS to use my epson stylus C60 printer. They work fine and I can print at different resolutions & colours. I have now started using gimp quite heavily. When I print from gimp my epson is not on the list of supported printers. I have to select postscript level 2, and modify the command executed to Hrmmm it appears something is wrong with your setup (maybe). I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I am running CUPS + CUPSYS-DRIVER-GIMPPRINT from "testing" here sucessfully and GIMP seems to work OK. BTW, I am using another printer (a HP 960C), so I cannot help you with things specific to your printerjust "general" info. Your Epson C60 is listed on my list of "supported" printers under both CUPS and GIMP here. Was it listed when you setup CUPS? You might try re-installing the cupsys-driver-gimpprint package and re-configuring your CUPS setup, if you haven't done this already. I use the "Printing Manager" wizard under KDE for all my CUPS config work rather than the web-browser interface, but that shouldn't matter. lpr -PepsonC60_photo to make it print, having setup epsonC60_photo via cups as a photoquality mode. However to change resolution or media type I have to keep going into CUPS and modifying the printed setup for epsonC60_photo. One method I use here to keep from going into CUPS to re-configure for various printing modes is to "pre-define" the various modes I want to use in CUPS. Although you have only one printer, you CAN define it in various ways under CUPS. For example, I want a general-purpose printer for text printing, I config "LP-Text" for black & white only. I then define a second printer under CUPS for low-res color work as "LP-Color", and a third as "LP-Photo" for photo-quality work. You can extend this as far as you want/need. Some apps will automatically select the mode they want...GIMP appears to do this for me. On most apps, I then have 3 "printers" to choose to use..."LP-Text", "LP-Color", and "LP-Photo". I select one of these as the system "default" for the most common printing tasks. I have dpkg-reconfigure gimp1.2 in the hope it will pick up the later added gimp print but to no avail. Has this gotsomething to do with a "PPD" file, is this a printer driver file ? Failing this is there some other way to get gimp to see what is avalible via CUPS ? One final thought... do you have BOTH the "gimp 1.2" and the "gimp 1.2-print" packages installed?? I have both here in addition to the "cupsys-driver-gimpprint" package. If you want to compare setups (packages) and procedures further, just holler. That is about the only other thing I can think about doing. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to put local .debs?
Abdul Latip wrote: Hi, I am just wondering where others put the local .debs (e.g. the kernel-image). Or is it usual just to keep it in /usr/src/ after "dpkg -i kernel..." ? /usr/local/ is free for your personal use. Regular debs will NOT touch anything in this directory. You can keep them pretty much anywhere you want.../root/ or /home/~/ etc. PS - may I know what "char-major-10-135" is? I read it is related to "RTC"; but I am not sure about how to get rid of that message... It is the "Real Time Clock". If you examine your /etc/modules.conf you will find at least one reference to it... usually as an "alias". Mine is a single instance in the " update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386" section at the bottom. Note the section(s) it appears in, and remove/comment it out in the corresponding sections of /etc/modutils/. the run "update-modules" to get a revised modules.conf and you should be set. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stung by dependancies
Marlin Unruh wrote: I would like to switch from an RPM based package handling distro. In fact I installed a debian distro, but uninstalled it because one of the main programs I use is for drawing schematics and PCB. It uses some old components, ld-linux.so.1 and libc-5.3.12-3, both in RPM form. Is there any way I can install them in a debian distro? Please help! I want to switch, bad. Marlin The "ld-linux.so.1" is contained withing the "ldso" package in Debian Woody (Stable). The "libc-5.3.12-3" doesn't seem to be available in existing Woody packages, but a later version (libc5 5.4.46-12) is in the "libc5" Woody package. It might work... dunno until you try it. Both of the above are in the "oldlibs" directory. In any case if you already have a RPM containing the required files, it can be installed via the "alien" program. If you are looking for a specific file, you can use the file search feature at the Debian website to find out what package it is in. http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages at the bottom of the page. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto find the Agfa SnapScan 1212p
Joris Huizer wrote: Hello Everybody, I have got this problem: I have an Agfa SnapScan 1212p scanner - but I don't know how to make Debian woody see and communicate with it. I did a small search on "Linux Agfa SnapScan 1212" with few results. Can anybody tell me what I should do to get Linux to work with the scanner ? Thanks for any help, Joris Huizer I took a quick look, and it looks like that particular scanner is a parallel-port model that uses a "proprietary" protocol. AGFA will not release any specs, so there is no Linux support under SANE it appears. Here is the site I was looking at: http://www.buzzard.org.uk/jonathan/scanners.html You might want to poke around the SANE home pages, especially under the supported scanners pages, but it doesn't look good Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Abdul "Abdul" == Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdul> Second, I am wondering if there exists a "PARTITION Abdul> MAGIC"-like software in Debian (better than fips?). How Abdul> easy is it to split a VFAT/ You-Know-What-Os partition on Abdul> the fly. parted knows is able everything Partitiion Magic does. Except ntfs :-( Partition Magic is the only resize program that is able to work with ntfs, I think. :-) Parted works pretty well, but is mostly command-line. I like the Parted -on-a-floppy, since it also serves me as a "rescue" floppy to get a zapped system up & running and has most of the utilities you will need available. If you are interested in a GUI front-end to Parted, take a look at "qtparted". This is very ALPHA software, IMHO, but seems to be progressing nicely. You can find details at: > http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ The last time I looked, there was a "deb" package available, although I just compiled my own for grins. My last look was on an older version... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make-kpkg, stock kernel, and alsa
Kent West wrote: I've compiled a kernel or few, but mostly just stumbled through the process. Question 1: -SNIP- < Near as I can tell, there are no binary alsa drivers; I have to download the source and compile. However, apparently I can't compile the alsa modules without having the full kernel source for my running kernel. Can anyone confirm or deny this? It seems a bit crazy that I can't run alsa modules with a stock kernel, forcing me to roll my own kernel. Perhaps there's a good reason for that? Or am I misunderstanding? You don't have to do a complete kernel compile on the source, but you must "prep" the source package to look like it COULD compile your existing kernel. This is needed to setup the source so it will provide the necessary external headers, etc. for the ALSA compile. If you already have the 2.4.20-K7 kernel running on your machine from the pre-compiled debs, all you have to do is the following: 1. Link the kernel-source tree to /usr/src/linux (ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20 /usr/src/linux) 2. Do a "make mrproper" on the new kernel source tree to set everything back to a "pristine" state. This step WILL erase any existing .config files! This is really just a check, as you shouldn't really needed it on a newly installed kernel-source package... just my parinoia showing . 3. Copy /boot/config-2.4.20-K7 /usr/src/linux/.config 4. Run "make oldconfig" 5. Run "make dep". Your kernel is now preped to compile any program against your specific kernel being used. If you have rolled your own kernel, then these steps should have already been done, and you would want to use the existing "prep" you used to compile it. You can then use any available method to compile the ALSA modules and programs from the Alsa-source from this point. When I downloaded the alsa-source, it put a tar.bz2 file in /usr/src. I bunzip2'ed it and untarred it, which put the "alsa-driver" directory in /usr/src/modules. I also downloaded the kernel-headers. Then run I run cd into /usr/src/linux and "make-kpkg modules", it seems to think I'm compiling a kernel instead of just the modules against the headers. But as I say, I'm just stumbling through, so am probably expecting too much or am doing the wrong thing(s). I don't use the "make-kpkg" method, so I cannot comment on your procedure. I learned the "old way", but I believe the prep of the kernel is still needed for kpkg to work correctly... It just might be leading you through these prep steps... dunno. Automated programs that I don't understand make me nervous;) Question 2: Closely related, last time I faced a situation like this, I downloaded the kernel source for the same version of stock kernel I was running and copied the "config-[kernelverson]" file to /usr/src/linux/.config, and then compiled, expecting to get almost the exact same kernel I started with. However, it wasn't nearly the same (I don't remember the details now). I know this is vague information, but does anyone have an explanation for that? See the above procedure. The "make mrproper", "make oldconfig" and "make dep" steps are important to setup the kernel source to use the imported config file from /boot/. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4?
Kent West wrote: Donald Spoon wrote: That said, you can install a perfectly workable version of ALSA using apt-get on the pre-compiled debs in the Debian package repository. All you have to do is match the pre-compiled ALSA version with your kernel. Not all available kernels have matching pre-compiled ALSA debs, but the 2.4.19 kernel-image series does. Do you know if this is due to policy? Technical reasons? No one's gotten around to it yet? What? I'm running stock 2.4.20, and there appear to be no alsa deb for that version. Or maybe I'm just not seeing it . . . . Thanks! Dunno I just report what I see, and that is only the 2.4.16 and 2.4.19 kernels have pre-compiled debs. The 2.4.19 kernel is perfectly suitable for my environment & my equipment, so I don't have any pressures to go with the 2.4.20 or later kernels. Others with more modern equipment may find it necessary to run a more recent kernel that supports their hardware. I suspect it is just a matter of "free" time to make the debs, and other things have more priority. There has to be a companion package the each of the various "kernel-image" offerings. Considering this and the fact there are 11 different CPU types, this represents a LOT of debs to compile! I have compiled the ALSA modules, and it isn't all that hard IF you know a bit about compiling and are comfortable with the process. The instructions on the ALSA site are pretty clear. The debs cover all the possible sound cards from what I see, while the instructions I used was oriented towards just compiling the modules you needed for your card. One is a "generic" approach, while the other is specific to your card(s). This all may become moot when ASLA gets embedded into the kernel. I hear that it is in the 2.5.XX developemental kernels now and will be part of the 2.6.X series when it is released. I also have observed that for most sound cards I have used, the OSS drivers built into the "stock" kernels work just as well as ALSA. I really don't see any advantages to ALSA (for me) at this time. It all boils down to working through the configuration of each type/method, and each way has its advantages and disadvantages, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4?
Kris Kerwin wrote: Hi all, Something tells me this is a question that has already been asked, and that I'll probably be flamed for it, so, flame away! :-) Anyways - could anyone tell me where I could find the source for kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4? I've checked in Debian's archives, as well as kernel.org and on Google. Scary thing - Google either says it doesn't exist, or (more likely) I don't know where to begin to look. I'm looking to install ALSA and a (pirated) copy of VMWare, so if you can think of a better kernel for those (that has a source and image available), I could do with any help I can get. Thanks. Kris Kerwin There is only one "kernel-source" for the 2.4.18 kernels, or for any kernel tree for that matter. All the variations you see in pre-compiled binaries are made at compile time via the specific ".config" file used. Therefore to get ANY version you want, you just d/l the kernel-source package for the 2.4.18 kernel, and apply the .config file you want. For the "bf2.4" kernel you can find this file in /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4, if you are already running the 2.4.18-bf4 pre-compiled kernel. Other pre-compiled kernels (the "kernel-image" packages) keep their .config file in the same place and named in a similar manner. That said, you can install a perfectly workable version of ALSA using apt-get on the pre-compiled debs in the Debian package repository. All you have to do is match the pre-compiled ALSA version with your kernel. Not all available kernels have matching pre-compiled ALSA debs, but the 2.4.19 kernel-image series does. That is what I use here. I would recommend you upgrade to the 2.4.19 kernel for your machine and install the matching ALSA debs as the path of least resistance. Compiling kernels and ALSA can be a pain if you haven't done this before. Can't say anything about VMWare, but the kernel version you use shouldn't matter. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /var/cache/apt/archives directory
Sharninder wrote: hi, It's a silly question but i don't know where to ask. What's the use of all the files in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory. They all seem to be debs of any package that i have installed in my comp. ever. Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Management Calcutta Building No. 117 Command Hospital Complex Alipore Kolkatta They are the actual debs you downloaded for installation. If you ever have tried to re-install a package, you probably noticed that it didn't need to be downloaded again. It is a local "cache" of debs you have installed. This "cache" can get to be quite large, as there is no automatic cleaning of it, and it will continue to build as new upgrades are added. Most of the time, I just get rid of them with a periodic "apt-get clean" or "apt-get autoclean" to free up the disk space for other uses. You might want to read the MAN page for apt-get and become familiar with these two commands and their differences. My need to access these debs is so infrequent, that I can afford to re-download it if & when needed. I have a broadband conection here and I can get a complete new install in a couple of hours. When I was on a slower (28K) dial-up, I tended to keep them around because the download times were quit long for some of those packages. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
sport woman wrote: Hi Donald, Thanks for letting me know that I'm not the only one having this problem! Your solution of trying to compile the application from the source myself is one I'll try. You have more courage than I! I am not as comfortable with "back-porting" as others. I generally limit my compiling to kernels and the few small source tarballs I want/need. If I run into a roadblock during the compile, I usually don't have the mental "horsepower" to solve it. I guess a third choice would be to upgrade to a SID system completely, but you have to risk the chances of breakage due to the constant state of change. KDE 3.1 is starting to flow into SID(unstable) but isn't completely there yet. Hmmm, I guess I don't understand 'apt-get install' as well as I had thought! My impression had been that it would automatically pull all needed packages with the one you 'apt-get install' for. (So when I did 'apt-get install gnomemeeting', using unstable for the sources.list, I had expected KDE3.1 to be pulled in with the gnomemeeting 0.96., since the gnomemeeting bug-tracker for Debian had said if I went to all unstable then both would work together.) Are you saying that the 'apt-get install' would not pull in KDE3.1, but that an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to unstable would have? No, not quite. This is tough for me to explain, but here goes If the ONLY "source" line in your /etc/apt/sources.list is for "unstable" then an "apt-get update" followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade" should do a complete upgrade to the current SID or "unstable". This may or may not go smoothly, and you will only get whatever packages that are in "unstable" that are the "upgrades" of your current set of packages. You will get all of the new KDE 3.1 packages that are available, but probably will not upgrade all of the packages you have on your system. Those not upgraded may or may not run, depending on the conflicts with the new compiler & libraries. This could be a dangerous thing to do, but you never know exactly how "dangerous" until you try it. It is sort of a catch-22. Most people who run SID know how to get out of these situations, but it can be a quite frustrating situation for a "newbie". Now if you have set up "pinning" in APT, then you will have two (or more) sources...usually "testing" and "unstable". Pinning will allow you to pull from either one if you specify a package, but for general commands like "apt-get upgrade" or "apt-get dist-upgrade" then the action will be first for the primary dist you setup in pinning and second for any "outside" dist packages you might have pulled in from the secondary source. I.E. if you pulled in Mozilla from "unstable" then an "apt-get dist-upgrade" will automatically pull-in upgrades for Mozilla from "unstable", but NOT the entire dist. The rest of the "dist-upgrade" will be done on only the "testing" packages installed on your system... provided you have "testing" as your primary source and "unstable" as your secondary source. Does this make sense? Or maybe you're saying that right now, 'apt-get install gnomemeeting' for 0.96 OR 'apt-get dist-upgrade' for unstable would NOT allow me to retain KDE3.1, but sometime in the future unstable will have a complete KDE3.1 and *then* another 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will give me KDE again... H... I doubt you have KDE 3.1 from "unstable" currently installed. You shouldn't be having GNOMEMEETING trying to remove KDE if it was. You probably have KDE 2.2.2 from "testing" installed, and that is why GNOMEMeeting wants to remove it. It is probably not a direct relationship, but is the end result due to some conflicts among some lower-level dependencies, like the compiler. What I am trying to say is that at some point in the future ALL (Most) of the packages in SID will become good enough to move into "testing", including the new compiler and KDE 3.1, and GNOME 2.2, and the version of GNOMEMeeting you want. This will have to happen sometime before the next major release of Debian...SARGE. When will it all happen? Dunno...but my "sense" is that reaching that state of affairs is several months off. In the meantime there will be quite a bit of turbulence. Sorry for my slowness to understand on this point, I'm a newbie trying to learn as fast as I can! :-) Almost everybody learns faster than I do . Some day quite soon you will be teaching me... no doubt about it. Keep asking questions, and give advice to others when you can. I have discovered that the real "gurus" are pretty quick to correct a mis-representation of the "facts". If you can gracefully, AND gratefully accept correction, it is an excellent way to learn! Don't be afraid of saying something that might be "wrong"! "They" won't let it stand for long if it is;) Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get, KDE, and gnomemeeting
sport woman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to run gnomemeeting(version greater than 0.12) and Debian KDE at the same time, but when I try to upgrade gnomemeeting (I only find upgrades from USA/unstable), I get (from apt-get install) a message saying that in order to do this, it has to get rid of KDE. (I'm running the 2.4.18 Linux kernel with Debian, and my /etc/apt/sources.list started with only stable but now I have done a 'dist-upgrade' to testing). I am using the 'apt-get' instructions from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html (section 3.8) for a mixed system... so now my /etc/apt/sources.list has a source for unstable debian packages. (I need the unstable for gnomemeeting.) I had thought that using 'apt-get -t unstable install gnomemeeting' should pull all necessary packages that would need to be upgraded (including KDE)...however instead KDE would be removed, when I try this command. If someone could please clarify the problem for me, I would appreciate it. (I am not using apt pinning, instead I am attempting to maintain a mixed system.) According to the debian bug-fix maintainer for gnomemeeting, I definitely should be able to use gnomemeeting 0.96 with KDE 3.1 I don't want to bother him anymore with my questions, especially since he directed that I should ask any further questions of this email list (and previously, the gnomemeeting mailing list, actually the gnomemeeting author himself, had directed me to take my question to Jose Carlos). Thank you for any clarification, Lori If I try to "upgrade" to any GNOME packages in "unstable" for the last few weeks, I get the same thing... it wants to remove my KDE 2.2.2 install completely! I am fairly sure this is due to the transition to the use of the gcc 3.2 compiler in "unstable". Most of the apps in "unstable" are being compiled aginst the newer compiler, and I suspect GNOMEMEETING has been too from the results you are getting. The problem seems to be in a small portion of the new compiler (the C++ portion) that isn't compatable with the 2.95 compiler used in "stable" and "testing" currently. You have a couple of choices here depending upon your needs. 1. You can wait until the transition to the new compiler is complete and it filters into "testing" as the standard compiler. When this happens, chances are a LOT of apps from "unstable" will flow into "testing", including GNOMEMeeting. My sense is that this will probably take a while... several months before it all settles out. 2. You can d/l the source and compile it against the 2.95 version compiler you have currently installed. Dunno if this will work or not, but is worth a try IF you have an "urgent" need. Be prepared to do some trouble-shooting! Otherwise, you will have to wait for the system to "do its thing". I guess a third choice would be to upgrade to a SID system completely, but you have to risk the chances of breakage due to the constant state of change. KDE 3.1 is starting to flow into SID (unstable) but isn't completely there yet. I have been waiting to see a few more packages appear before I make the leap from KDE 2.2.2 to KDE 3.1. These are perilous times... HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Cups printer problem
Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Printer is an HP DeckJet 940C Driver is Foomatic-hpijs downloaded from www.linuxprinting.org A print test from localhost:631 or from kde prints nothing. cat printtest.txt > /dev/lp0 prints the simple text file though it must be manually ejected. less /var/log/cups/error_log ends in multiple lines of "get-printer-attrs: resource name '/printers/Mail PDF' no good!" Background: System is Woody with 2.4.18 kernel. dpkg -l |grep cups and dpkg -l |grep foomatic show the following packages installed (ii): cupsomatic-ppd cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-pstoraster kdelibs3-cups libcupsys2 libcupsys2-dev foomatic-bin foomatic-db As usual, I seem to have overlooked something, but what? Tom George Stupid question I know, but do you have the "hpijs" package installed? I think it is required with that PPD... You also need GS, but that will automatically be pulled in if you have the hpijs file installed. -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd problem...
Christof Hurschler wrote: Hi, I've tried, but can't seem to figure out how to get this working. Yes, I'm a newbie. I'm running Woody, and made the following config file with pppconfig # This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.10. # # hide-password noauth connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/debitel.net" debug /dev/ttySL0 115200 defaultroute noipdefault user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rerun pppconfig and make the above line read: user "hurschler" All you have to do is enter your ISP "username" when asked, not your E-Mail address as you did. remotename debitel.net ipparam debitel.net usepeerdns It looks like your modem is working OK and getting the necessary info from your ISP (IP, DNS, etc). I suspect that the error noted above is resulting in you not automatically logging in to your account at your ISP, via PAP. If you just put in your login name (username) that you use when you are asked by pppconfig and your password, then PAP will automatically log you in. Do select PAP authentication. Also you can check the current status of your "username" and "password" by looking in the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file near the bottom. I suspect it will have your E-Mail address listed in the first column... this should be your username enclosed is quotes. Re-running pppconfig with the correct info should clear this up. Normally, not being able to contact various hosts around the internet with lynx or konqueror indicates a DNS problem. You can usually tell this if you can "ping" hosts by IP number but not by name. I really don't think this is your problem here, but if you continue to have problems after making the above suggested changes, come on back with the results of a "route" and "ifconfig" command after you have established the connection. Is the connection terminating by itself or did you terminate it in the above log extract? If it is terminating itself, then it would add more support to you not really getting logged in, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setting hdparm parameters on boot
Jeff Elkins wrote: I'm trying to set the parameter: 'hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdc' upon boot. I created a script 'hdcparm' in init.d and attempted using update-rc.d to create a S99hdcparm script in my runlevels, and while it creates the link, it doesn't seem to 'take.' I still have to apply it manually for the setting to work. Have I missed something here? Thanks Jeff Elkins http://www.elkins.org There is an existing package that will do this for you (after you edit it with the values you want)called "hwtools". It does pretty much the same as what you tried...i.e. creates a file in the /etc/init.d/ directory and sets up the appropriate symlinks automatically. Just install the package and make the edits you need in /etc/init.d/hwtools. Fill in your parameters where it says "[PUT ARGS HERE]" in the hdparm optimization section. Did you make your "hdparm" script an executable shell script? Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Newbie) Functioning In Debian
Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:35:08AM -0600, Donald Spoon wrote: As I mentioned, the only problem I had initially was with sound on QuickTime, and that was fixed when I copied over the QT stuff from my previous experiments to the /usr/lib/win31/ directory. This might be fixed in the marilatt w32codec debs...dunno. What "QT stuff" is necessary? This answer your question?? No... I know quite well how to get mplayer itself to work, I just can't get audio in QuickTime. Here is a list of files that I copied from the old /usr/lib/win32 directory on another machine. QuickTime.qts QuickTimeEssentials.qtx QuickTimeInternetExtras.qtx qtmlClient.dll Grab the QuickTime 6 dlls from: http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ I am pretty sure that is where they came from... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Newbie) Functioning In Debian
Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 04:37:39PM -0600, Donald Spoon wrote: The only problem was that I had to grab the Quicktime win32 audio dlls to get sound going. I've fiddled and fiddled and gotten nowhere with doing this. All I was ever able to make mplayer do was segfault in various interesting ways (and take down X once, but that's not relevant). Care to detail what files to swipe, and where to swipe 'em from, and where to put them? Or just a pointer to TFM. ^_^ I started off with a relatively "fresh" install of Debian "testing" with Mozilla and OpenOffice.org pulled from unstable (Sid)... mostly a "testing" system. System is a K6/2-500 cpu with 256 Megs of RAM, SB64-AWE sound card, and Voodoo3 - 2000 video card. Sound and Video (including X) all working with "standard" Debian drivers. No Alsa... no special system "tweaks". 1. Installed mplayer: deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main 2. Got the basic mplayer working. Generally used the defaults. 3. Grabed the win32 "tarball" from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design5/dload.html. P.S you might have to also get the "extra" codecs too... dunno. I already had some QuickTime dlls on another system from previous experiments that I copied over initially... 4. Extracted the archive and copied the contents to /usr/lib/win32/ ... you might have to create this directory. 5. Tested out the install on some local files and fine-tuned the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf file. I really didn't change much here, except to experiment with the tdfxfb video "driver" (the -vo option).http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayerplug-in/ 6. Tested out the system on the PLUGGER test site at: http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html 7. Downloaded, extracted, & compiled the mplayer-mozilla tarball from sourceforge.net: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayerplug-in/. 8 . Tested out the plug-in on several web sites (www.quicktime.com, etc).http://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayerplug-in/ Since I did all of the above, I have notice debian packages at the marillat.free.fr site for the win32 codecs and for the mozilla plug-in. I have NOT installed these, since I already had it working from the above. You might give them a try if you want to go the "all deb" route. I may have gotten lucky, but they all seemed to work right from the start without much intervention on my part. As I mentioned, the only problem I had initially was with sound on QuickTime, and that was fixed when I copied over the QT stuff from my previous experiments to the /usr/lib/win31/ directory. This might be fixed in the marilatt w32codec debs...dunno. This answer your question?? Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netinstall - nothing works?
klaus imgrund wrote: On Wednesday 26 February 2003 08:04 pm, Donald Spoon wrote: Klaus Imgrund wrote: Ok - found the problem but have no idea what goes wrong. There are only 11 mb on the cd after burning it - iso is 38 mb. I did burn it with k3b and after that tried with cdrecord. Both show that they burn 38 mb but they don't. If I burn the boot.iso instead of the bootbf2.4.iso everything is fine except that I couldn't install on reiser with it. Anybody has an idea what is wrong here? Klaus Sounds like something is going wrong in the burning process. Dunno what, and it is extremely puzzling since you can burn other "working" isos without problems. I just d/l both isos and mounted them via the "loop" function and they both seem OK from visual inspection. I did mount them,too.Something is already screwed up then. Real strange - I just installed mandrake and try it with the tools there. If that doesn't work I'll install it with the regular boot CD. Thanks a lot for your help. Klaus Ah-ha! If you mounted the d/l iso files, and they were screwed up, then it looks like a bad download! THAT will mess things up! I didn't see any md5sums at the site that you could use to check. If it would help, here are the md5sums generated from my machine on each file after I down-loaded here: 5f8f36ec92a64057ba437ceb2b87f767 boot.iso 87b0f3beb29259a26faa79fe6bafd392 bootbf2.4.iso I can't guarantee these are "good" since I have not burned these isos and sucessfully booted them, but they looked OK on visual inspection. Holler if I can help again... Good Luck! Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netinstall - nothing works?
Klaus Imgrund wrote: Ok - found the problem but have no idea what goes wrong. There are only 11 mb on the cd after burning it - iso is 38 mb. I did burn it with k3b and after that tried with cdrecord. Both show that they burn 38 mb but they don't. If I burn the boot.iso instead of the bootbf2.4.iso everything is fine except that I couldn't install on reiser with it. Anybody has an idea what is wrong here? Klaus Sounds like something is going wrong in the burning process. Dunno what, and it is extremely puzzling since you can burn other "working" isos without problems. I just d/l both isos and mounted them via the "loop" function and they both seem OK from visual inspection. Both seem to give you a "base" system, that should allow you to work from there. I cannot burn them since my Burner quit on me a couple of weeks ago. You can mount the d/l iso file with the command " mount -t iso9660 -o loop [file.iso] [mount-point]". Here is what I used: " mount -t iso9660 -o loop /root/bootbf2.4.iso /mnt/bf24-iso/" where the "bf24-iso" is an empty directory under /mnt that I created. If you want to chase this down, you can try mounting the iso file and comparing it with what is getting burned. Probably the quickest way to get to where you want is to break the install process into a series of smaller steps: 1. Install a base system with the "boot.iso" CD 2. Upgrade to the 2.4.XX kernel you want 3. Change to the Reiserfs after the above. If your "boot.iso" CD is working OK, just go ahead and install with that. You really don't need your NIC for anything until after you reboot for the second phase of the install. Everything you need to get a running system is on the CD. When it installs the drivers be sure to manually "install" your NIC driver. I am sure the SIS900 driver module is present in the 2.2.X kernels, but it is compiled as a module. As you will probably wind up with a 2.2.X kernel with this iso, I really don't know if it supports Reiserfs or not. You will know rather quickly if it does at the start of the partitioning screens during the initial part of the install. If you are not offered a Reiserfs "option" just choose the ext2 fs and you can convert to Reiserfs after you have a running system. You can also upgrade to a 2.4.XX kernel via apt-get after you get your NIC up & running. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (Newbie) Functioning In Debian
Alex Malinovich wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-26 at 06:44, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 01:19:14PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: --snip-- may choose to use, however, are non-free. And there is actually an mplayer plugin available that works pretty well. http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net It's currently up to 0.40. It even plays Quicktime movie trailers and the such right in the browser window. I'm working on making it my first Debian package actually. :) Ooooh, neat. Have you put the packages up somewhere? --snip-- I was looking up something while creating the package a few minutes ago and happened to take a look at Christian Marillat's site (http://marillat.free.fr) and it seems he beat me to it. :) I d/l the tarball from sourceforge.net as soon as I saw this & installed it. It IS "neat"! The only problem was that I had to grab the Quicktime win32 audio dlls to get sound going. With this addition, mplayer is now functionally in the same league as QuickTime or WMP running under Crossover/Wine on my machines... If you don't want to go the Crossover route, Mplayer is definately your best "all-in-one" solution, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netinstall - nothing works?
Klaus Imgrund wrote: > -SNIP- < With the testing CD's it boots fine.Everything works ok there until I try to find my NIC. With every ISO I tried (bout 5) with bf-2.4 it starts to load the kernel.The screen comes up and then I get an error about wrong magic followed by the reiserfs superblocks it can't find.Next step is the kernel panic.I never make it to any installation steps there at all. Something is wrong with your CDs or procedures then. It sure sounds like it is trying to boot involving the HD, and that shouldn't happen. Have you tried the CDs on another machine? Maybe that isn't possible, though. The only other suggestion is to make the "rescue" and "root" bf2.4 Woody boot floppies and boot from them. Once you get to the start of the install, then you can use the CDs (if they are good) for the install of the base system or go straight to the netinstall. I did create the reiser partitions with a 2.4.20 kernel but as you said - partitions don't even get mounted where I get stuck. Just to make sure I didn't screw up something with the ISO I burned a gentoo install CD and that boots just fine and finds all the hardware. Real strange! Are you using the "Boot from CDROM" option in the BIOS, or are you booting from some other method to start the boot process? Care to share your boot proceedures? Maybe there is something there. I have a couple of machines here that just won't boot from the BIOS, and I have to use floppies to get it started, then switch to the CDROMs when asked. What sort of machine is this?? I should have asked that earlier... I am only familiar with i386 and some Dec Alpha methods to get Debian running... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netinstall - nothing works?
Klaus Imgrund wrote: > -SNIP- < There is obviously some problem with either my reiser partitions although they work fine or with the cd's. The 'testing' cd's boot but don't recognise my NIC. Funny thing is that a old potato cd boots just fine w/o complaining about superblocks. Klaus That is really weird! With either the boot floppies or the installer from the CD, you should be able to boot right up into the start of the install process... i.e. where it starts asking about your keyboard, etc. It doesn't even try to access the HD until you get to the partitioning step in the first phase before the reboot. Both the "rescue" and "root" floppies are run out of RAM. It should make no difference how the HD is partitioned or what pre-existing FS is installed. When you get to the partitioning step, you can accept the existing partitions and create the new FS on them or wipe them out and start from scratch... like on a blank HD. How far along are you getting in the boot process with either the CDs or Boot Floppies before it panics? If you get to the partitioning step, try removing the existing partitions (with cfdisk or fdisk) and creating new ones. I seem to recall some changes in Reiserfs about the time Woody came out. If you are using partitions and a FS setup with an older version of Reiserfs, it might be causing you some problems. Reiser wasn't an "official" part of Debian until Woody came out. Dunno what else to suggest. Good Luck! Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding Canon BJC 8200 to cupsys (Solved, sort of)
Feng Tian wrote: Hi, After gunzip C/bjc-8200.ppd.gz can put bjc-8200.ppd in /usr/share/cups/model (restart cupsys), I am able to install the printer and printed a test page !!! I still don't know if gunzip helps or simply restart works. Now my question is which the two ppd files should I use? bjc-8200.ppd or BJC-8200-stp.ppd? And there are many choices in model now, which one should I use? BJC-8200, CUPS+Gimp-print v4.2.0 (en) or BJC-8200, Foomatic + stp-4.0 (en)? Which is better? Thanks. Feng On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Feng Tian wrote: Hi, I am trying to install Canon BJC 8200 on Woody. I was able to apt-get all cpusys* packages and pointing to localhost:631 worked fine. However, when I add a printer, the Model/Driver pulldown menu only shows Raw Dymo Epson HP OKIDATA Can any one tell me how to add Canot to this menu? I have found the following files. /usr/share/cups/model/C/bjc-8200.ppd.gz /usr/share/cups/model/Canon/BJC-8200-stp.ppd Any help? Thanks. Feng The word "better" is in the eye of the beholder . It ultimately is up to you. Fortunately, there is an easy way to make a comparison! It is possible to define any number of "printers" using different drivers. All you do is go through the config routine again and select the second (other) driver and give this "printer" a distinct name. Then run your tests on both and see which one you like. I personally like the gimpprint drivers here, but for photo-quality work, I like another driver ppd that I got from linuxprinting.org better. I have two configs here... a "LP" and a "LP-Color". The first uses the gimpprint driver and the second one uses the other driver. I can select which one to use, but mainly I use the gimpprint driver because it is faster on B&W printing, and provides acceptable color when needed. The other driver gives me a bit more control over the printer's features and allows me to print at a higher resolution (VERY slow) than the gimpprint driver. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netinstall - nothing works?
Klaus Imgrund wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:51:13 -0800 "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Klaus Imgrund said: Well, I downloaded a netinstall iso with bf2.4 kernel and threw it in - kernel panic with error about reiserfs modules. - Ok try the next one Downloaded the businesscard.iso for a testing netinstall.That couldn't find my sis900 NIC.Let alone a driver for it. it looks like the generic bf2.4 kernel supports it. Not sure why the netinst CD crashed. Though I tried a netinst CD back in august and it wouldn't boot(yet alone load a kernel). I only use 3com and intel NICs in my machines, very compadible. you could boot off floppies if you have a floppy drive.. No such luck.I guess I'll keep on trying all the images I can find with a 2.4 kernel. Klaus Klaus, Exactly which "netinstall iso with bf2.4 kernel" did you download & try? You mentioned the "businesscard.iso for a testing netinstall" as a second try, and IF you tried the other one available from the same site, it was a "testing" installer too! This probably explains some of your problems. I have tried these isos recently to check out the new Installer being developed, and I must say it is very "rough" at the moment. I had similar problems as you... i.e. failure to detect hardware (cdrom, NIC, etc) and losing modules I thought had been installed. It is very much "alpha" software at present and you shouldn't expect a smooth install. You really ARE "testing" them ;) In their defense, the team is making good progress on a very tough problem. From what I can see, the "standard" 2.4.18-bf4 kernel used in Woody has both Reiserfs support, and support for your NIC compiled in... there is no need for inserting additional modules to get the netinstall going. I have done several Woody netinstalls here, and all went quite smoothly... although I don't have the same hardware as you. There is no reliable way to go directly to testing at the moment that I know about, if that is where you want to end up. The easiest way to do a netinstall that I have found is to use the official Woody boot floppies. If your hardware is compiled into the kernel (as yours appears to be) then all you need is the "rescue" and "root" floppies to get to the point where you can log onto the net and complete the install. I always grab the driver floppies as well... just in case. Once you have Woody installed, you can upgrade to testing or whatever fairly easily by apt-get dist-upgrade. As an alternative to the boot floppy method above, you can use one of the "unofficial" netinstall isos for Woody. I don't think there are any "official" netinst isos for Woody. Might I suggest Eduard Bloch's "bootbf2.4.iso" at: http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies/cvs/? It is fairly recent and should get you the latest version of Woody. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp
Noll, Ralph wrote: below is what i am getting zvmlinx5:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/main Packages Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/main Release Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/contrib Packages Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/contrib Release Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/main Packages Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/main Release Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/contrib Packages Hit http://10.38.1.45 stable/contrib Release Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages Connection failed [IP: 128.101.80.131 80] Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Release [96B] Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages Connection failed [IP: 204.152.189.120 80] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Release [99B] Err http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages Connection failed [IP: 216.37.55.114 80] Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Release [100B] Fetched 295B in 12m0s (0B/s) Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-s390/Packages Connection failed [IP: 128.101.80.131 80] Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-s390/Packages Connection failed [IP: 204.152.189.120 80] Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-s390/Packages Connection failed [IP: 216.37.55.114 80] Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-s390_ Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_contrib_binary-s3 90_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stable_non-free_binary-s 390_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. zvmlinx5:/etc/apt# am i doing something wrong Raph Can you ping any of those "http.us.debian.org" IPs or IP numbers? It looks like you are connecting to the "10.38.1.45" machine OK, but not to any of the Debian machines. I take it that 10.38.1.45 is on an "internal" network... Routing problem maybe?? -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp
Noll, Ralph wrote: how can i get ftp installed.. and why would it not come installed as base system is this a list that i need to subscribe to Ralph I believe the ftp "client" is installed by default... much the same as in Windows. The daemon needed to make the machine a ftp "server" is not. There are several you can install via "apt-get"... 1. ftpd 2. proftpd 3. wu-ftpd 4. others?? I like proftpd. Installation is simple, and almost automatic with apt-get. About the only config question you have is about allowing "anonymous" logins. I don't, and it has worked right from the start for me. If you are worried about security, you might want to look into using SSH. The "scp" function works very much like ftp, but over a secure ssh link. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS Stable & Testing
sdownes wrote: - SNIP- < I've got the deb stable packages installed with default settings at present but had the same problem with the testing version & played about with a lot of settings in that before purging it & starting again. I do have cupsys cupsys-client & cupsys-bsd installed but not the gimp package. Those packages "should" pull in most of the other packages that you need. I would suggest you also install a set of printer-drivers like cupsys-driver-gimpprint. I use that one here and the quality is quite good on my HP 960C Inkjet printer. Alternatively you can try the cupsomatic-ppd package or the foomatic-bin + foomatic-db package combo. The latter "alternative" is preferable. I notice that these packages are listed as "suggested" at the Debian "Packages" site. I dunno what that means, as I couldn't get anything going here without them I guess you could assemble you own or use the ones provided by GhostScript... dunno. If you use KDE, then I would also install the kdelibs3-cups package. The KDE setup wizard is quite nice. You can get to it via the KDE "Control Center" --> "System" --> "Printing Manager" menu. Make sure you select "CUPS (Common Unix Print System)" as the print system currently used at the bottom of the screen. Click on the magic wand icon and fill in the questions in the wizzard screens. I have found this the simplist way to get my printer going here. If you don't use KDE, then you will probably have to configure CUPS via the "http://localhost:631"; web-browser method. I have not used that method much here, so can't give you any tips...sorry. HTH, Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS Stable & Testing
sdownes wrote: Cannot get anything to print direct to lp or lpr. I can get it to print to lp -d lp@host no problem. I appear to have the default printer set to lp & am working (initially) from that host. I can move the default to another printer but this makes no difference. As some of my software will only print to lp &therefore will not print (notably openoffice) this is a pain. Any ideas please? Steve Which CUPS packages do you have installed? I am using CUPS here and OpenOffice + all other apps print just fine. Specifically, do you have the cupsys-bsd package installed? This package allows printing via CUPS from apps that are looking for a BSD-style printing system. I am willing to compare setups, but will need a bit more info about yours... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdmcp and gdm -- missing something ?
David Woyciesjes wrote: -SNIP- < Hmmm... this is the kind of info I've been waiting for. But one question. On my SUn Ultra1, running Solaris 9, the login box comes up, to login locally, and there is a menu option to flip to a chooser to login to a remote machine. I can login to my Debian/x86 box fromt there, or login locally to Solaris. Is there a way to get this same option in gdm/xdm on a Debian/x86 box? -- ---Dave Woyciesjes ---ICQ# 905818 As one who has only fooled around with second-hand or junked parts, I have never experienced any SUN equipment or Solaris OS... they just are not laying around the junk yards that I frequent . I can visualize what you are describing, and it sounds like it might be a useful "feature". The closest approximation I can suggest is to set up GDM for the "chooser" mode. I can login to my local machine just as well as any other machine running xdmcp on my LAN. For practical matters, to suit my tastes here, I usually boot up to the "normal" GDM login screen on F7 then start up a "chooser" session on F8 as I described before whenever I need it. I can switch between the two by (ctrl-alt-F7 <--> (ctrl-alt-F8). My reason for this is that I do a significant amount of re-booting (experimenting) of my local machine and I like to have the ability to re-boot from the GDM login screen. You can configure GDM to do this via the "System" option. I haven't yet found a way to do this "shortcut" from the Chooser screen. I have to exit to a terminal session (ctrl-alt-F2) then shutdown/reboot from the terminal prompt. Not a big deal... I just prefer to use the mouse to click on the normal GDM "system" then "reboot". The drawback is that I currently have to manually start the "chooser" session each time I reboot. I am probably not saving anything by doing it this way. BTW, You can get just about the same functionality using VNC. Its setup is different, and it seems a bit more awkward for me to use. I have always had a tough time getting the display sizes and depths just right for my tastes. One advantage of VNC that I have found is that you can startup sessions to different machines on different "pager" windows. You can then switch between machines via the "pager" in GNOME or KDE. You can also use ssh to run specific X apps on a remote machine and have the display local. Each method has its strengths and drawbacks... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdmcp and gdm -- missing something ?
J.F.Gratton wrote: Don, Thank you so much, this is exactly what I looked for. I am stuck in the same position as you are, trying to automate the procedure. A temporary hack for now is to add the line you mentionned (X :1 vt8 etc etc) into my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. This is ugly, but hey.. it works :) Hmm... have to give that a try. Thanks! I could get GDM to start in either "mode" individually, but not both. It seem like it "should", but if I had both server lines defined in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf the computer would go into a loop of some sort and eventually kick me out to the command line with neither one started. I tried to solve it somehow, it didn't work (got a flickering screen for all my endeavours).. Here's what I added to /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf; I've commented the lines since for now it doesn't work. helsinki is the hostname on that computer. That reminds me... in your example, -indirect legolas legolas was the local host, right ? No, not usually. Let me explain that a bit... Here are the computer names and their functions on my LAN: legolas ---> gateway, IPMasq, bilbo ---> time server, mail server, workstation (old DEC Alpha) gandalf ---> main workstation, LAN print-server (my machine) gimli ---> secondary workstation (son's machine) elrond ---> secondary workstation (wife's machine) All machines are using gdm and are setup to honor "indirect" xdmcp request as per the [xdmcp] section of /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. I can actually use any one of them, including the "localhost" in the "-indirect [hostname]" part of the line and get it to work. #[server-Chooser] #name=Chooser #command=/usr/bin/X11/X -indirect helsinki #flexible=true [servers] 0=Standard vt7 #1=Chooser vt8 I wonder if our "problem" isn't caused by looking at the local machine for a "chooser" when it is still trying to start X for vt7??. Maybe the "chooser" function isn't working at the time we are trying to start vt8. I wonder if setting the "-indirect..." line to an external machine that already has X running and offering "chooser" services would work?? BTW, I found that understanding how it is done in XDM, then applying that knowledge to GDM was quite helpful to me. There are several different places in XDM that have to be modified to get xdmcp working, but you can do it all in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf when using GDM. The KDM setup is almost identical to the XDM setup... or used to be. I have not looked at KDM in quite a while. Here is a good HOWTO on setting up XDM in a college LAB setting that I found helpful: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue27/kaszeta.html The XDMCP HOWTO at the Linux Documentation Project was quite useful too, but you had to do some mental conversions to adapt it to Debian. The above link was mainly about XDMCP on Debian, although on an older version of X that had the files located in different places. Guess I have some thinking and experimenting to do Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xdmcp and gdm -- missing something ?
J.F.Gratton wrote: Hello all, I have two computers (networked, 'f course) both with the same setup, gdm + gnome 2.2 latest versions (I apt-get dist-upgrade every day on the unstable branch). The way I understood the Chooser is that I'd be able to get the gdm login screen of PC #2 on PC #1 . I've found an (outdated) xdmcp howto, but it mixed gdm, kdm and xdm in the same howto, and the end result is that I' don't get that expected result. Is there anyone kind enough to explain what to do (if it IS possible, in the first place !), which config files to modify, etc ? Many, many thanks ! Jeff I am using the GDM from Woody (GNOME 1.4??) exclusively on my 5-computer LAN, and can do what you are trying to do between all 5 computers. Maybe the outline of my changes will help you figure out your problem. BTW, you should make the changes on all computers you want to use xdmcp. 1. Changing X to do xdmcp: You have to edit the /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc file and remove the "- nolisten tcp" at the end of the line. Dunno if this is needed for GDM or not, but it definately is needed for XDM. 2. Changing GDM for xdmcp: (Note: All edits are on /etc/gdm/gdm.conf) a. In the [xdmcp] section set "Enable = true". All other default options were OK. b. In either the [server-Standard] or [server] section (I forget which one had it) remove the "-nolisten tcp" part. Leave the rest of the line as it is. 3. When starting up the chooser, I have to manually start a new X session by going to a terminal (ctrl-alt-F1), logging in as root, and typing in the following line: "X :1 vt8 -indirect legolas". (legolas is one of my computers setup to use xdmcp and honor indirect queries... you should substitute one of your computer's names here). This will start a new X session and bring up the chooser screen. You can go back to your original screen by doing a ctrl-alt-F7. You now can switch between session :0 (vt7) and session :1 (vt8) with ctrl-alt-F7 and ctrl-alt-F8. There should be some way to automate this, but I haven't figured it out yet. I am still experimenting HTH, Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where would I ask...
GSO wrote: Where would I ask if anyone has any linux hardware to sell - need a parallel port scanner (UK). GSO I don't think anyone makes a Linux-only parallel port scanner. You will probably have to get one of the standard scanners made for other OSes and make it work under Linux. The SANE package supports a wide range of scanners. Your best bet is to go the the SANE homepage and browse through the list of supported scanners and pick one that uses "parport" if you specifically want a parallel port scanner. I happen to have one up & running here... a HP 3200C (relabled UMAX 1220). The SANE homepage is: http://www.mostang.com/sane/sane-backends.html FWIW, I would advise against going the parallel port route. The SANE program supports many other scanners that use the SCSI or USB ports, which will probably be a bit more satisfactory to you. The parallel port is slow, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: voodoo3 troubles
Cameron Matheson wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get my voodoo3 working but i am having some serious problems... The computer boots up fine w/ the card in, and X works great w/ the "vesa" driver (other than no acceleration of course). If i try the "tdfx" driver, however, X goes crazy (the screen is bright shifting colors and the cursor is a gigantic black rectangle). After i kill X w/ ctrl+alt+backspace the console is ruined (looks a lot like X except in b&w) so i have to reset the computer. I have been trying to figure this out but so far no luck, i have attached my XFree86.log and my XF86Config-4 (and also output from dmesg). Here is the stuff that is probably significant although i am not sure: (II) LoadModule: "int10" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board (through the int10 interface). (II) TDFX(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (II) TDFX(0): Softbooting the board succeeded. Why is it softbooting my board? Isn't that only supposed to be done when you have two cards and one of isn't started at bootup by the bios? I think this part right here is the major bad stuff: (II) TDFX(0): Failed to set dac value, bypassing CLUT (II) TDFX(0): Failed to set dac value, bypassing CLUT (II) TDFX(0): Failed to set dac value, bypassing CLUT (II) TDFX(0): Failed to set dac value, bypassing CLUT ... A quick search on google only turned up source code for the tdfx driver... Anyway, i am at a loss, any ideas? Thanks, Cameron Matheson I have the Voodoo3-2000 here and it works fine. In reviewing your snippits of your log file above, I have the same "init10" stuff as you do. It appears to just be checking the availability of that mode. I don't have a second card either. I think the init10 stuff is normal. I don't have the second portion about "(II) TDFX(0): Failed to set dac value, bypassing CLUT" anywhere in my logs. I cannot explain it. Question when you configured the xserver-xfree86, did you enable the "frame buffer"? I could never get my card to work with that option enabled. You might run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and just change or check that option. I actually have two of those cards working here in different machines. The only problems I encountered was with the framebuffer and setting up the mouse properly. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows XP to Woody/Cups Printer? How?
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > -SNIP- < Option 2) Use the CUPS thin-client architecture, letting the driver on the debian system control specifically how the result will appear. To do this change the driver on the Windows client to one that generates data CUPS knows how to handle. For example, I often use the "HP Laserjet IIIp Postscript" driver to make windows generate postscript which cups then converts to PCL (for my printer). Since my printer(s) are B&W only this works well. Unfortunately that windows driver converts color to grayscale, thus you won't want to use that driver for a color printer. The last time I tried with the HP ColorLaserjet Postscript driver the postcript windows generated was really weird. CUPS didn't find any pages to print, but 'gv' would render it correctly. If I used gv to regenerate the postscript (by printing marked pages) it would work. If you try this option, let us know which printer model to pick to get functional postscript with color from windows. HTH, -D I have had good luck on both B&W and Color printing from a WinME box via Samba to my LAN printer (CUPS) by using the "generic" Windows Poscript Printer driver available from Adobe. It is a free download. It seems to handle Color OK for me. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sharing a printer with SAMBA
Chris wrote: Gday y'all, Im trying to share a CUPS printer over samba. I can see the printer, but when i try to print to it from a windows box i get the message "Access Denied, Cannot connect.". I seem to be able to print a test page from the http config tool. This same problem hapened with lpd. I am running Debian GNU/LINUX 3.0 (woody) with an Epson Stylus Color 600 on /dev/lp0. I have attached my smb.conf file. Cheers, Chris I struggled with this recently & finally got it working. I could never get it to print using the Windows printer drivers for my printer (an HP 960C). After reading a lot of docs & howtos, I stumbled onto a recommendation for using the "generic" postscript printer driver from ADOBE for Windows. I installed that and it started working perfectly. You might give this a try...or try one of he Postscript drivers in Windows. I know it is supposed to work the other way, but I couldn't get it going Your smb.conf looks reasonable, but I am not an expert. These are the difference from my smb.conf that I see: 1. You might want to put "load printers = yes" in the [global] section. 2. I have "security = user" in my [global] section. This might affect what you are seeing because of your "valid users" line in your [printers] section. If you use "user" level security, make sure each user has an account and can access their account via a samba connection. This will take some fiddling around with the smbpasswd file. 3. I think the "printcap name" parameter should be the location of your printcap file... usually in /etc. I use the following for princap name: printcap name = /etc/printcap.cups 4. FYI, Here is the [printers] section from my smb.conf: [printers] comment = All Printers browseable = no path = /tmp printable = yes public = no writable = no create mode = 0700 HTH, Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade to 2.4.18 and lose network
Dave Leckie wrote: Apologies if this comes across as a newbie question... I've been trying to sort through the Debian install and have had nothing but headaches... but I'm still trying... sooner or later this will work out nicely... Alright. I'm setting up for a firewall-box on an old P75 via 1.44M Floppies and netinstall... So I go through the installer and everything's relatively hunkey dorey... I install Woody 3.0r1, and I manage to get everything set up including the two NICs... One's a 3com Etherlink III and the other is a rtl8139too. The two NIC driver installs go through great, and I use the Etherlink to connect to the outside world (eth0). All is fine, I'm able to install the base system over the net no problem. Everything works over the net until I want to upgrade the kernel. I'm wanting to use iptables, so I apt-get the kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 (non-initrd) and get that all set up. So I reboot the system, it loads up all happily into 2.4 until the network tries to get configured, then the boot-up seizes for a bit (while I suspect it just fails at configuring) and when I log in and try to move around outside my system, my network isn't working... no configuration, nothing... I'm at a complete loss now and honestly have no clue how I'm supposed to approach this now... A similar problem I was having with installing on a larger box via CD (I think with the 2.4 kernel). So my question is basically do I have to set up the network manually, and if so, how would I do that? -Dave The 2.4.18-bf4 kernel should detect the Real-Tek 8139 card just fine. I am pretty sure it has the code compiled into the kernel. I use them here. When you move beyond the "bf4" kernel, you will have to add the module for this card via modconf or by putting it in the /etc/modules file. The Etherlink III card is another matter. If it is the old ISA 3c509B card that I think it is, you will have to insert this module (3c509.o) into the kernel with modconf and include the IO/IRQ values for this card. IIRC, you might get by with just using the IO value that the card has been setup to use and it will automatically probe for the IRQ. Although it is advertised a "plug and play" it really isn't ... in Linux. BTW, this card has a programmable EEPROM where you can set the IO and IRQ it should use. You can get a "setup" program that runs under Linux at: http://www.scyld.com/diag/3c5x9setup.html if you need to change these values. You probably don't since you had it running before with the other kernel. Take a peek at your ifconfig and see if there is at least one of the NICs recognized. I suspect it is and it will be the Real-Tek one. If neither one is being recognized, then you might have another problem. Come on back with the results of "lspci", "lsmod" and "ifconfig". Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Printer Offline?
Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Main computer is Debian Woody, 2.4.18 kernel connected through a Linksys Wireless Point Router to a DSL modem. Printer is HP Deskjet 940c installed with CUPS. KDE System print manager says its URI is ipp://Phoenix:631/printers/lp. (Phoenix has nothing to do with software of that name; I named the computer Phoenix because I have rebuilt it so many times.) Laptop (my grandson's, not mine) is an IBM Thinkpad, Windows XP with an Actiontec Wireless USB Adapter. Windows XP Add Printer cannot find the Phoenix printer though it has no trouble connecting to the internet through the Router. A third computer can be booted up in Windows ME with the Actiontec Wireless USB Router. In this case Add Printer reports the Phoenix printer is offline. As far as I know, the Phoenix printer should be online. It prints documents from KDE and there is a line printer stream tcp nowait lp /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd cups-lpd at the end of inetd.conf. I am still new at getting all of this set up so perhaps I have missed something crucial. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Tom George To enable CUPS for the network, I had to change two thing in the default Debian CUPS server setup : 1. enable "browsing" and identify my network IP range as "allowed" to browse. 2. Add my printer to the "resources" section of the Security section of the server config. Initially I could do this all from within the KDE printer setup wizzard, but with recent versions of CUPS and/or KDE I have had to make these modifications by editing the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file by hand. The changes I make in the Wizzard don't seem to "take". This is probably a result of my weird combination of testing and unstable here. You might want to dig into the cupsd.conf docs before you try this. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice
Calber Chainy wrote: And in Woody??? Thanks. Chainy El vie, 07-02-2003 a las 21:32, florin gheorghiu escribió: Hi, How can I make the truetypes fonts avaible in openoffice 1.0.2 in my box sid ? Thanks ! The "key" for me was to use the OpenOffice.org "Printer Administration" tool and select the "Fonts" button at the bottom. This will bring up a screen where you can add system fonts. If you already have TrueType fonts running & working on your system for other apps, just point to the directory that has the fonts. This directory is different depending upon the use of Defoma (SID & Testing do, Woody doesn't, IIRC). A hint here is to use the same directory for TrueType that you placed in the FontPath section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Setting up TrueType on a Debian system is another story. There are numerous threads in the archives on this that do a much better job of describing the process than I can... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer Problems
Thomas H. George,,, wrote: I have three standalone systems all with cupsys, cupsomatic, cupsys-bsd, cupsys-driver-gimpprint, gimp1.2, gimp1.2-print and kdelibs3-cups: Debian Woody, 2.4.18 kernel with HP Deskjet 940c, Foomatic+hpijs (my daughter) Debian Woody, 2.4.18 kernel with Brother HL-730, Foomatic+hl7x0 (my grandsons) Debian Testing, 2.4.20 kernel with Epson Stylus Color 860, CUPS+GIMP-print v4.2.2-pre2 (mine) The problem: Printing a simple ASCII file (printtest) from a terminal. The results of lp printtest are as follows: Brother HL-730:OK. Prints the file with no problems. HP Deskjet 940c: Ejects a blank page. Epson Stylus Color 860:Nothing. There is an error in /var/log/cups/error_log (See previous posting, Gimp Print Problem (for details.) All of these printers print the test pattern from a terminal: lp /usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps All of these printers print perfectly from kde. History: I am weening my daughter and grandsons from Windows 98 with its perpetual problems. I chose kde to give them something similar to Windows and this is when my troubles began. I found I had to install cupsomatic and kdelibs3-cups get their printers to work. This is fine since they never switch from X windows to a terminal but I do. After dpkg --purge lprng, lpr, and magicfilter and installing cupsys-bsd I am able to use the Brother HL-730 but not the other two printers. I would appreciate any assistance with this problem Sounds like you are missing a "filter". Here are a couple of suggestions for each situation: 1. Check and make sure you have Ghostscript installed and working. 2. In the KDE Control Center --> System --> Printing Manager --> [your printer, i.e "LP", etc] --> Instances --> Settings you will get a pop-up window with 3 tabs. The last tab is called "filters". Select this and experiment with adding the available filters. I have a "generic image to postscript" filter and a "pdf writer (needs Ghostscript)" filter available here. You might have to experiment with the order, and you might not need all of them... dunno. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Demand PPP
David Raeker-Jordan wrote: I am using iptables and ipmasq; might that be preventing pppd from dialing out? I got ipmasq working, but I am not very conversant with it. To answer my own question -- yes, ipmasq was preventing pppd from dialing out in demand mode. If I turn ipmasq off, then pppd will dial out on demand. Now I just need to determine what rule in ipmasq is causing the problem. Has anyone who has seen this before have any advice? I can't answer your question directly, since I don't have your complete IPMASQ ruleset to look at, and I probably couldn't "read" it anyway (I am not an IPTABLES/IPCHAINS guru). Maybe this will help you solve your problem, though. One thing to consider when writing rules for Firewalling and IPMASQ is the fact that the ppp0 (dial out) interface doesn't exist on the system until you actually dial-out and make a connection. It is quite transient. Most of the rulesets I have seen are based on forwarding between interfaces, hence any rule that forwards/masqs to the ppp0 interface will fail if the interface doesn't exist! The key here is to establish the connection then run the rule... in that order. There is no need for IPMASQ (normally) until you make the ppp0 connection, so there isn't really any need to run the IPMASQ rule until after the interface comes up. This is essentially what you have found out.. the only thing missing is to establish the IPMASQ "rule" after the ppp0 interface is established You can do this with a script that re-runs (updates) the existing "rules" located in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ directory. All of the scripts in this directory are run in cannonical order (whatever that means) after the link comes up. Of course, you can also do this manually from the command line...if you want (for testing purposes???). Most packages I have seen that do FIREWALLING also include the capability to do IPMASQ. That is the way I have done it here for several years. I am currently using the "Firestarter" firewall, and it works quite nicely on iptables found in the 2.4.XX kernels. I also used the "PMFirewall" package on the ipchains found in the 2.2.XX kernels. There are LOTS of these programs available, and each one has its advantages and disadvantages. I would advise using one of these type packages and placing the calling script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ direcory on a ppp dial-out connection. This is the most painless way I have found to get up & running so-far. If you are "rolling your own" for educational purposes, then just take the above into account in your design. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is /dev/??? for the parellel port ? escputil
Dave Selby wrote: > - SNIP - < Hi mate, Under windows 98, yuk !!, the pucker epson driver gets the info on ink levels etc AOK, so I guess the cable is AOK The computer is 3 yr old, ie obsolete !!, the printer 1 year old. ls -al /dev/lp0 gives debian:/home/test# ls -al /dev/lp0 crw-rw1 root lp 6, 0 Mar 14 2002 /dev/lp0 debian:/home/test# So read/write access is OK for root, even though the reported error is cannot read from /dev/lp0 My pet theory is the epson, being a new design, uses different from what escputil is looking for Dave Are you actually logged in as root when you did the "debian:/home/test# ls -al /dev/lp0" command or into your "user" account. You might want to check it out when logged in as root. It might just be a permissions problem. From the above, I would say adding your "user" account to the group "lp" would also let you run this program from there. I am not familiar with this program & I am just guessing here. The fact that you can clean the heads but not get the ink-levels would indicate your "pet theory" is probably correct... Just thought I would bring up the permission thing just in case... Good Luck! -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is /dev/??? for the parellel port ? escputil
Dave Selby wrote: On Tuesday 04 February 2003 8:47 pm, you wrote: Thus spake Dave Selby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, Ive started using escputil to check and clean my print heads, it works great but I also need to check the ink level, apparently I need to access the printer directly by defining the rew device, ie, escputil --ink-level --raw-device /dev/??? My printer is an epson stylus C60, using the parellel port. As a guess I tried par0 The linux equivalent of LPT0 is /dev/lp0 Many thanks, looked real promising with great hope I re-tryed it but lp0 gives ... test@debian:~$ su Password: debian:/home/test# escputil -r /dev/lp0 -i Escputil version 4.2.0, Copyright (C) 2000-2001 Robert Krawitz Escputil comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'escputil -l' This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type 'escputil -l' for details. Cannot read from /dev/lp0: Invalid argument debian:/home/test# So looks like I have another problem apart from using the wrong /dev/ Dave Make sure all your hardware ports and connectors are rated for IEEE-1284. This spec is needed for 2-way communications between the printer and computer via the parallel port. The most common mistake is not using an IEEE-1284 rated connecting cable. The "standard" cable only provides 1-way comm from the computer to the printer in general terms. This shouldn't be a problem with recent computer ports or recently manufactured printers. You can easily still purchase a "standard" cable. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with Coldfusion Server
Chris Hoover wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm trying to get Coldfusion server version 5 to install on my debian system (unstable). However, the install is abending with the following error: /opt/coldfusion/bin/cfexec: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ERROR: Unable to initialize the Cold Fusion settings. ERROR: Aborting installation. Can anyone help me get around this? I really need to get this running on my laptop so I can get some development work done for my job (and I really don't want to have to reinstall with RedHat). Thanks Looks like it is missing the libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 library & finking out on you. I just did a search on Debian packages for this file and found it in the oldlibs section in the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package. Apparently this is an old egcs library. Anyhow, if you install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 package you should be all set. I had to do this recently when installing the Linux version of AIM probably compiled for Red Hat and adopted for Debian... Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/chatscripts/provider
alex wrote: I had no problem configuring /etc/chatscripts/provider in Progeny Debian but the one in Debian Woody has a different format that gives me a problem. I can't figure out what kind of data should be entered and how it should be entered. I couldn't find any info about this. 1. What data should be entered? Examples would be helpful. 2. Should the # be removed and the data entered on the same line or should the the original # be retained and the data entered on the next line without a # ? --/etc.chatscripts/provider # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.10. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' ATZ # ispnumber # ispconnect # prelogin # ispname< Quite sure what goes here # isppassword< " """" # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff By far the easiest way to get the /etc/chatscripts/provider file is to run the pppconfig program and fill in the blanks. This will generate the appropriate script automatically. If it doesn't work after this, THEN you consider editing the file rather than starting from scratch. From the example provided, it appears you have not done the initial stuff but are starting with the original file. Here is a "fake" chatscript I just generated as an example of what worked for me: # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.1. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' ATZ # ispnumber OK-AT-OK ATDT1234567 <--- new line added # ispconnect CONNECT \d\c <--- new line added # prelogin # ispname # isppassword # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff Note the items added to your example. In addition to generating the appropriate /etc/chatscripts/provider file, pppconfig also sets up your PAP/CHAP authentication and the /etc/ppp/peers/provider files. The pppconfig program is your friend and will save you a lot of hair-pulling and de-bugging, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libfam0c102 kills 182 KDE3 packages
Victor Torrico wrote: Running KDE3 woody debian packages downloaded from kde site. Works great. In order to run nautilus and yelp in gnome2 I need libgnomevfs2-0 and libgnomevfs2-common which depends on libfam0c102. When I execute "apt-get install libfam0c102 libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common" these would all install OK however they would also remove all 182 kde3 packages. How can I keep kde3 installed and still run nautilus and yelp? Wassup? Victor I can't answer your question, but I can report that it happens with the "stock" Woody 2.2 KDE install too. I didn't accept the offer & exited the upgrade before any changes were made. I use KDE much more than any GNOME stuff. My recent foray into getting GNOME2 on my experimental system resulted in an un-mitigated disaster. KDE was gone and GNOME2 wouldn't work. I basically had to start from scratch and re-install the stuff from Woody. I don't want a repeat of that! Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error with dpkg...???
Larry Shields wrote: Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but here's what I am now getting when I use synaptic to install a package... /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 2873 package wine-utils missing version... According to synaptic of installed packages, I do not have 'wine-utils' installed, but at one time I know that I did, so it must have been removed when I install some other package... Does anyone on the list know how I can correct the problem, so that I can install wine-utils, or for that matter any other program, for with this error, I can not install any new packages... Thanks for any help anyone can offer... Larry/WD9ESU If you no longer are using WINE, and/or it has been removed previously you still might have some config files lurking around that is causing the problem. Just removing a package will not remove config files. Try a "dpkg --purge wine-utils" at a root command prompt, and see what happens... It might tell you about some directories that it tries to remove but are not empty. Inspect those and manually remove them if they don't contain anything you want. Once you get it out of the way, Synaptic should work OK. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helvetica Printer Fonts & HP 1100 (again)
Bill Moseley wrote: [Sending again -- in hope someone can help] I have a testing/unstable machine with CUPS and a non-postscript printer (HP LaserJet 1100). When I print a calendar with Jpilot the fonts are really poor quality. The fonts look like an old dot matrix -- like it's about 50dpi. And indeed when I create a small postscript file as shown here: http://www.jpilot.org/pipermail/jpilot/2003-January/001384.html and print it with "lpr tmp.ps" the printed text is very poor quality. Printing from other programs works fine (e.g. Mozilla, Abiword (although in the case of Abiword the *screen* fonts look bad but it prints ok)). Any ideas? I think I've got an old postscript printer out in the garage. Maybe I should try that. Using cups and my non-postscript printer is sure slow. Bill, I have a similar setup here...CUPS, Debian testing/unstable, + a HP 960 printer (non-postscript). My screen and printing "helvetica" fonts are acceptable to me... definately better than "dot-matrix" quality. I agree, the printing is S L O W, but it seems to work. As I understand it, the true "helvetica" font is not available on stock Debian installs due to licensing problems from Adobe and/or Apple. The way Debian handles this is to substitute another font...in my case it is the "verdana" fonts from the M$ TrueType" family...I think. This is done as part of setting up TrueType fonts on the system, and is done in the /etc/X11/XftConfig file...agian "I think". I dunno exacty what your problem is. My understanding of fonts and how they are handled in Debian is poor to start off, and I am getting even more confused with the introduction of "defoma" and "pango" into the overall mix that you see in Debian testing/unstable... depending on how much of "unstable" you have installed. The best I can offer is to run down the high-points of all I have done here and see if something there helps. 1. I am using the "gimprint" printer drivers for CUPS. Dunno if this has any bearing, but the overall quality of ALL the fonts is significantly better than other packages I have experimented with, IMHO. The hpijs printer drivers are also very good, but are even slower on my system. 2. Install TrueType fonts per the KDE "anti-aliasing-howto". On my sytem this is located in /usr/share/doc/anti-aliasing-howto. The significant points here are to use the "msttcorefonts" Debian package from testing to get the fonts on your system, make the changes recommended in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (looks like you have done this) and in /etc/X11/fs/config, and to "upgrade" the /etc/X11/XftConfig file. The last point is where I got the font substitution statement mentioned above. It is not there in the default Debian X install. I just "cut & paste" the sample file in the anti-aliasing-howto dir into /etc/X11/XftConfig without modification after re-naming the original XftConfig file to something else. 3. Setup defoma as the font manager. You might have to install the Debian "x-ttcidfont-conf" package...dunno. I added this package as it didn't get installed automatically. You have to make a second set of changes in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and /etc/X11/fs/config here to accomodate the defoma paths. I see you have already done this, so I imagine this step is un-necessary. 4. Select defoma to manage your fonts. I also had to re-boot to get all these changes to "take". You could probably get by with just re-starting X...dunno since I haven't done it yet. It looks like you have done a large part of this already. Maybe you can use it as sort of a "check list" and add those things you haven't done. I would be happy to share any specific config files you may want to see. One final "caveat"... I am not a font purist! What looks horribe to you may look OK to me. An example of what you are seeing would be helpful, if you can get it... a scan perhaps? HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp on demand trouble
Sigmund Svertingsson wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions so far. Here is a bit more detail: Machine "Return" (it lives in my air conditioning return ducting at the end of the hallway) is my gateway to the outside world (via my dial-up ISP). My ISP gives me a dynamic IP address. I'm pretty sure my statically configured LAN is fine, as I have to ssh into the headless Return machine to do anything. I uncommented "demand" and "persist" in /etc/ppp/peers/provider and told the machine to "pppd call provider." The results of "ifconfig ppp0" and "ifconfig eth0" are: ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:10.64.64.64 P-t-P:10.112.112.112 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:E3:0F:83:A6 inet addr:192.168.1.5 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:56791 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:51685 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:15205639 (14.5 MiB) TX bytes:38855816 (37.0 MiB) Interrupt:9 Base address:0x1f00 But it doesn't dial when it (as I understand it) it should. I have tried firing up Mozilla on the masq'ed machine I'm typeng on now, as well as trying Lynx on the Return machine and pointing it at Google. Nothing provoked any kind of reaction from my spiffy USRobotics external modem. Then, I commented out "demand" and "persist," killed pppd, and restarted it again. Beep, beep goes the modem, up comes the connection, and here is the ifconfig ppp0 output: ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:66.81.203.95 P-t-P:66.81.235.139 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1524 Metric:1 RX packets:3 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:66 (66.0 b) TX bytes:87 (87.0 b) What do I do now? Siggy First, my appologies for any confusion I may have generated on my previous post. Setting up for demand dialing and controling when you kick it off (bootup or manually via PON) are two different things. The above info looks OK to me... similar to what I recall having here for those commands. Could you take a look at your routing in the different configs you have posted? IIRC, the "defaultroute" or "gateway" on RETURN should be pointed at the ppp0 interface in the "demand" mode. I had some problems with this at first because I had set up a "gateway" entry for my eth0 interface on my equivalent of your "RETURN", and it just wouldn't dial out. I had to remove the "gateway" entry for that interface in /etc/network/interfaces file, and things would work OK. The pppd "defaultroute" option just wouldn't overwrite an existing one for the ethernet card(s). I only had to do this on my "gateway" computer...all the rest on my LAN pointed to that computer as their "gateway". The strange thing in your situation is that manually starting pppd in the non-demand mode works. That doesn't jive with the above suggestion, but it is worth a look anyway. The "demand" funtion of pppd does work... I used it for several years until I got my Cable Modem connection. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd on demand trouble
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 04:59:13PM -0600, Donald Spoon wrote: John Hasler wrote: Donald Spoon writes: -Snip- < It uses the presence of this file as a "trigger" to decide whether to start the pppd program in the demand mode at boot time or not. No. It uses the presence of this file as a "trigger" to decide whether to start the pppd program at bootup. Whether or not it starts in demand mode depends on how the "provider" peer is configured. I thought that is what I said. I don't get the "difference"... No, you said the file acted as a trigger to start ppp _in demand mode_. It's right there in the quoted section. :-) I suspect you meant to say what John said but careless sentence construction resulted in something else (no offense meant). Yeah..you are right. It is another case of "do what I mean not what I say" . I suffer from being a Missouri "hick" and living in Texas. Communicating is sometimes a problem Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd on demand trouble
John Hasler wrote: Donald Spoon writes: -Snip- < It uses the presence of this file as a "trigger" to decide whether to start the pppd program in the demand mode at boot time or not. No. It uses the presence of this file as a "trigger" to decide whether to start the pppd program at bootup. Whether or not it starts in demand mode depends on how the "provider" peer is configured. I thought that is what I said. I don't get the "difference"... -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pppd on demand trouble
Sigmund Svertingsson wrote: Greetings, all. I'm running Woody on an old Pentium box as my gateway/firewall/fileserver for my LAN here at Castillo del Lago (my home). Life is good here, and I'm really enjoying Debian, but I'm kind of stuck with the demand dialing thing. If I comment out the "demand" and "persist" statements in /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/provider, I can say "pppd call provider" and the modem dials (and I post to the list asking for help). I do get "tdb_store failed: IO Error," but the link comes up fine, and here I am. If I uncomment "demand" and "persist," when I call pppd and then point the browser of one of my masq'ed machines outside of my LAN, the Woody box just sits there. Oh, I also have smbd running on the Woody box (shouldn't matter, I would think.) This is obviously a problem that has been solved, just not by me :-/ I don't know what else to toss out in the way of info for now, but will cheerfully provide more if asked. Thanks, Siggy One thing I have discovered in Debian to get Demand Dialing to work is the need to change a file name in /etc/ppp/... you have to change "no_ppp_on_boot" to "ppp_on_boot". In order to understand this, try to decypher the /etc/init.d/ppp initscript. It uses the presence of this file as a "trigger" to decide whether to start the pppd program in the demand mode at boot time or not. In the demand mode, pppd is started and initialized to the point of doing the dialing, but stops there and waits for an appropriate packet the come along to make the call. Without the file name change, it will NOT "initialize" into the demand mode, even if you have the "demand" function in your options file(s). I would also suggest you open up this file with a text editor (no_ppp_on_boot) and read the comments there. There are some useful things that you can do with it if you are interested in having them. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to run KDM on VNC but not on console
Rich wrote: Howdy, I have a server on which I want to grant some users access via VNC. I the README.inetd file showed how to run KDM on VNC. It's pretty slick! But whenever I start kdm, it starts X and displays It's prompt on tty1. I don't want KDM to run on the console. This is a server, and I like the old fashioned text based login with no X. Is there a way I can limit KDM to only run on VNC sessions? I've looked through the files in /etc/kde2/kdm/ and tried a few things, but no luck. Any help is appreciated! It has been a while since I did this, so it is from memory, BUT the key is to stop the xserver from starting on the local machine when KDM is started...which is what you want. From what I recall, there was a file called "Xservers" (note the caps) in both XDM and KDM that controls this. On my current machine (KDE 2.2), the KDM files are located in /etc/kde2/kdm/Xservers. I also have the files for XDM located in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. The reason I am mentioning this is that I forget if you have to change BOTH or just the KDM file. Within the Xservers file there should be a line that says: ":0 local@tty1 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7" or something similar. Just comment out this line, and no local xserver will be started, but KDE will be started for use by remote computers. It this doesn't do the job, the try also commenting out the similar line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers and see what happens. As I said, this is from memory, and might be incomplete..dunno for sure. I am fairly certain that you must do this step at least. HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's fstype 83? "Linux"?
will trillich wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:22:21PM -0800, nate wrote: will trillich said: ideas? (i think this was my slink disk drive -- i'd like to use it to alleviate some space pressure on my woody server...) what does e2fsck say for those drives you cannot mount? Try running a read-only pass on them. I can't imagine why the newer kernel would be unable to mount a slink partition(though I can see it happening the other way around), though I haven't personally tried it. root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb1 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb1 root: /mnt# e2fsck /dev/hdb5 e2fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002) Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks... e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/hdb5 N.B. an earlier thread noticed "bad magic" mentioned at or before LILO, so it may have been this type of thing (certainly not the file-detector 'magic number' theory)... files on /dev/hdb2 have modification times no later than september 2000 -- pre-ext3 by a long shot. and i'm *positive* i've never even tried reiserfs, certainly not two-and-a-half years ago. wasn't ext2 the default for formatting under the potato or slink install? (as i recall, potato would start out as ext2 and then offered an ext3 option later... nope, ext3 didn't work either.) and partition type 83 is linux yes, but it's just a partition type, many kinds of filesystems can reside in there. racking my brain (what there is left of it) i stir no memory of anything unusual, file-system-wise. i'm just about certain that all three of these partitions would be the same file system. yet /dev/hdb2 mounts like a charm. Dunno if this is relevant or not, but in the dim recesses of my brain I seem to recall a change in the ext2 File System about the time the kernels changed from 2.0.XX to 2.2.XX. That would definatetly be in the SLINK timeframe, I think. I can recall being asked during the install of POTATO if I wanted to retain "backwards compatability" while formatting...I think. It definately had something to do with how the ext3 FS was stored on the HD. If it has a full FS on it, could you just try plugging it in and see if it boots? Maybe digging out some old SLINK "rescue" disketts might bring it to life... Just speculating. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD processor
Kent West wrote: raymond gree wrote: Hi, I have an AMD2100 on my mother board, I would like to know if there is an advantage to use the K7 kernel. I tried to install it but did not succeed. is there a procedure to so this kernel upgrade ? Thanks Raymond I would assume there's an advantage, since the K7 variant is compiled for the Athlon/Duron. Make sure you have the line "initrd=/initrd.img" in your Linux stanza in /etc/lilo.conf. apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 "Continue" or don't "Stop now". Reboot I recently upgraded my PIII-450 Motherboard to a faster Athalon MB with and AMD 1333 processor. When I did the initial boot, I still was using the 2.4.19-686 kernel and everything worked fine. I then upgraded to the 2.4.19-k7 kernel, and everything still worked fine. I can't say I found much difference...performance wise, but then I didn't do any in-depth studies. I do know that with the 2.4.19-k7 kernel all the VIA chipsets are detected and setup properly for all my IDE devices. I can't say they were not with the other kernel, though. I would echo Kent's caution about making sure the "initrd=/initrd.img" statement is in your /etc/lilo.conf file. It absoultely needs this to be able to boot. There is a caution about this during the install. This is especially true if you are upgrading from the 2.4.18-bf4 kernel, which doesn't have that line. That is about the only thing I have found that would cause the new kernel-image package not to work. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: External serial modem advice ?
Dave Selby wrote: Having had problems with my winmodem ... dont even go there ... I am going to buy a full hardware modem. I have been advised that external serial modems are the best for linux. Does anyone know if the Diamond SupraExpress 56e Pro 56K V90/V92 External Serial Modem Is OK with debian ? I can find tons on winmodems but no serial modem compatibility lists ? Anyone use it ... ? Dave I have been using the internal version of this modem here with great success. Generally speaking "most" external modems are OK, but there are so many models, even in this specific brand, that it is impossible to give a 100% guarantee. Diamond will use the same descriptor as you listed for a whole family of modems that are built for specific areas and use different or modified chipset (U.S., Europe, etc). If you have access to it and can get additional data such as the chipset used and the actual Diamond Model number (2420, 2312, 2730 all appear to be OK), you can look up more details at: http://www.idir.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html in their modem database. I have done a quick scan there an all the External Modems of the type you described above are either listed as "OK" or they just haven't had a report on it (listed as ?). I didn't see any that were listed as "Winmodem" or "Linmodem". HTH, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HELP] ALSA won't work though installed properly
J. L. wrote: Hello People, Recently i re-installed my linux-system to stable and upgraded to kernel-2.4.20, since i'm using an ABIT-AT7-MAX motherboard i had to install ALSA-SOURCE 0.9 wich is the only package supporting the Realtek ALC650 (VIA8233A) Chipset. I have installed ALSA and configured my system accordingly. lsmod give the output below wich i suppose should be correct : snd-pcm-oss36000 1 (autoclean) snd-mixer-oss 9084 1 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss] apm 9536 2 (autoclean) snd-via8233 4904 2 snd-pcm49280 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-via8233] snd-timer 10600 0 [snd-pcm] snd-ac97-codec 22640 0 [snd-via8233] snd25516 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-via8233 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec] NVdriver 945536 10 Still i cannot get any sound from my system, the mixer devices work but xmms and most other sound-related applications simply crash when trying to play an mp3 or any other file/url. Can someone please let me know if he/she can come up with a solution ? Thank You, joris This might be a typing oversight, but do you also have the "soundcore" module listed in lsmod? It should be there and used by the "snd" module. Otherwise your modules look fine to me. Dunno what else to tell you Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fun with tulip not autoloading
Ray wrote: i'm using 00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 21) and for some reason the tulip module that runs it wont load by default. durning the base install (via network) i didn't find it in the list of drivers to add, so just to try something, i dropped into a shell and typed modprode tulip exit and then i could configure network and go on my merry way. but after rebooting it gave some network errors. it again didn't load tulip, so as root i typed modprobe tulip /etc/init.d/networking restart and it seems fine now. but for something that is going to be a headless machine, this really isn't a workable solution. can anyone dirrect me to what i need to change to fix it? You have to tell the kernel you want the tulip module loaded at startup. Modprobe only works until the next re-boot, as you have found out. To fix this you can: Run the "modconf" program and select the tulip module to be inserted into the kernel OR add the line "tulip" (without quotes) to the /etc/modules file. Either one should work ok, but I prefer the latter one. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux partition question
debian parisc wrote: Hello, although I've been reading this list for a few months now I haven't actually installed in on a i386 pc (although I have installed it on a HP Unix server - well smooth). I'm now read to install on my home PC, to ensure that my wife doesn't divorce me I need to make sure that I get it right. I'm going to resize my windows98 partition to free up 10GB on which I will put 2 logical partition of 5GB each (i'll probably run stable on one and testing on the other or maybe woody and mandrake). I'm going to use Partition Magic 7 to resize it. Having looked at the instructions on Powerquest's site it says this "IMPORTANT! In most cases, the Windows partition and the Linux Ext2 partition must start below the 8 GB boundary to be bootable. However, if your system supports INT13 extensions, then Windows XP/2000, Windows Me, and some Linux distributions can boot beyond the 8 GB boundary. Check your system documentation to determine if your machine supports INT13 extensions." Does that mean that if my Linux partitions are first I can't boot windows98? or if I put Windows first (10GB) I won't be able to boot linux? and what is INT13? regards Leo The Windows 98 partition(s) should be first. Linux (Debian) doesn't care where it resides with the newer versions of LILO available in Debian Woody, but some Windows versions seem to be quite particular. If you use a boot loader like LILO or GRUB, you will be able to boot into either Windows or Linux. You should take into considertion that you can only have 4 "primary" partitions on a HD. You should have at least one "swap" partition for your Linux installs. It can be shared between the two installs. Check and see if your Windows install is using more than one "primary" partition. If it is, then your plan will probably not work. Linux/Debian works OK when placed on "extended" partitions, so that is a way out.. if you need it. Partition Magic after version 4.0 works great. I have used it here to resize and create Linux partitions many times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lilo warning causing problems
Felipe Martínez Hermo wrote: Hi all! I have just installed a new Debain box and configured a new kernel. I run Lilo and it says: Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 and function 0x48 return different head/sector geometries for BIOS drive 0x80 (also for drive 0x81) This is usually caused by your BIOS reporting a "geometry" for the HD that is different from what the Linux kernel detects during its probing. All the BIOSes have to do something with the Cylinder-Head-Sector settings in order to accomodate the newer, larger HDs. All of this is covered in the "Large Disk HOWTO" at the LDP if you are interested in the details. The different brands of BIOS have differently appearing setup screens, so the below is a description of what I am seeing here...yours might be different, but you should be able to figure it out. In the BIOS setup you should find a description of the HD(s) on your system with some settings you can change. One of them should be called "Access Mode" and will offer a few different settingsselect the "LBA" setting. Other choices might be "AUTO", "CHS", "LARGE". You might want to cycle through all of these settings and see what the BIOS sets for the CHS values. I find the "LBA" setting works best for me here. It installs correctly the boot sector, but when I try to boot with my new kernel, after the first kernel messages it reboots again and again and again You might have something else going on here...dunno. With something other than the "LBA" setting in the BIOS I usually see a series of letters (usually an "m") before it eventually hangs. If changing the BIOS setting doesn't help you get past this point, you might want to post your /etc/lilo.conf file here...maybe some other eyes can see somehthing else. Did you "roll your own" kernel or are you using one of the "stock" kernels? Which version? Cheers, -Don Spoon- Does anybody have a clue? Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IDE disk corruption - A7M266-D; which kernel patches? or othersolution
Al Davis wrote: On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: I'm getting disk corruption if I try to enable DMA mode for my IDE disks. On Saturday 18 January 2003 04:14 pm, Pigeon wrote: If you have a VIA chipset try making sure that VIA chipset support is included in the kernel. How do I find out? I am using the one on the woody bf2.4 cd. The "lspci" command should show you which chipset you have. For example here is mine (Via Chipset): 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8367 [KT266 AGP] 00:0a.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C (rev 10) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b) 00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 1b) 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30) Some of the lines are probably wrapped due to this mailer, but you should get the idea. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WAS: Curious...Are most of you in tech-related--NOW, I gave upand went back to Mandrake :-(
Scott --sidewalking-- wrote: Steve Juranich said: I eventually converted to Mandrake, since it was easier to maintain (they had that rudimentary up2date-like system a couple of years before RH). I then met another friend who basically called me a little girl for running Mandrake, and he introduced me to the beauty of 'apt'. Crap! I wussed out last night after not being able to set my damn sound card working in Debian Woody. I have put it on and removed it twice now in the past couple of weeks, and the last experience was the most positive of all of my distros tried: Slack 8.1, RH 7.2 and 8.0, Libranet 2.0, and then the Knoppix Live CD, which rocks, but is more of a demo (I have made a few converts at work with that disc!). My sound card os one of those generic VIA AC97 onboard cards, on a Shuttle AK32 board w/Athlon 1.1. I searched the archives of this list and there were many issues and posts with that card, and worse yet, it seems to be a fairly generic description. I did the lsipc list and it showed on there, I tried modprobe, sndconfig, and kudzu, but nothing. Then I remembered that when I tried Mandrake 9.0 last week to play with it, it picked up the sound mod and initialized it. I actually threw a disc in and got to listen to it. The Knoppix is basically Debian and I got the same error from it, and the ONLY other distro that picked up the soundcard all right was the other Deb-based one: Libranet 2.0. However, I botched that install somehow and GRUB didn't load right. I didn't care to retry it as I wanted to try a couple of others that night (LONG NIGHT, but exciting to see all of those!). Anyway, I searched and searched and frankly, didn't even understand what the answers were that were being provided. Since I saw that it had come up so often here, I was a little gunshy of posting to this list. I will research it later and I know I will be back to Debian soon -- maybe even tonight or tomorrow :) Mandrake 9.0 has GNOME 2 on it, which is cool, and it still has development tools that I can learn on. Aside from the bad taste that RPMS leave in peoples' mouths, is Mandrake really THAT bad? I need more of the basics to understand this stuff. Need to spend more time in the CLI, and Mandrake can let me do that when I want, yet give me a functional GUI when I want it. I can't help but feel like a bastard, though. I want Debian, Slack, or Gentoo to work for me, but need to break myself in or I won't even survive the install. By the way: I am a MASTER patitioner, at least now! ;0} Scott --sidewalking-- Holler when you get ready to install Debian again. I have that exact same MB with that sound chipset here. I got it working just last week, although it was not obvious. Hint: use 0.9 version of ALSA and the "snd-via82xx" driver module. It has to be manually configured...I never found an auto-detect program that would handle it correctly, but once configured, it works AOK. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp connection is terminated after 2 hours
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 12 Jan 2003, Sven Bornemann wrote: John Hasler wrote: Sven writes: I think somehow I must make the ISP server belief that I just logged on, while I'm online for one and a half our or so... Or just add the 'persist' option so that pppd dials up again whenever it gets disconnected. But then my Gnutella downloads are interrupted overnight etc... I know that the persist option works perfectly for reconnecting but it does not keep the connection alive. Sven As far as I know there is no way to do this if it is a "feature" of your ISP - it is of mine. I'm prepared to live with it, if it makes it easier to connect when I dial up. AC Dunno if this will work for you or not, but it might be worth a try... Back when I was using PPP, I had the same problem. My kids showed me that by running an IRC client connected to a channel, the ISP-induced disconnects would not happen. In my case I would be browsing or doing a FTP download when it would happen. Dunno just why it worked, but it did. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-configuring after an install
Chris Owen wrote: Hi, I'm doing an install of Debian 3.0 and have a probably dumb question. After the installation, how do I re-configure some of the things that I set up right at the start of the installation: specifically, the keyboard map and the network setup? I presume there are scripts available for this, but I haven't managed to find mention of this in the documentation. I need to set up a PCMCIA network interface card to connect to the internet via a DSL router, and I'm hoping there's a script that'll do this for me. Thanks Chris The basic way to re-configure most of the stuff done during install is to use the 'dpkg-reconfigure" command. The rub comes in knowing exactly which package you have to reconfigure, and a few are not handled by debconf in this manner. Network config of NICs is one of those "exceptions". However, there is a work-around for this particular case... the "etherconf" package will allow you to reconfig your NICs quite easily. There is a GUI interface to the "dpkg-reconfigure" command called "gkdebconf" that is nice & I use it quite a bit. You have to be running X for it to work, and since it is a "root" application you have to mess around with permissions, etc. to get it running from a user account. These tools have been very useful for me... dunno if it will help you out or not.. YMMV Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice.org slow?
Pieter Laeremans wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 20:34, pasha wrote: Hello, I have compared the experience using openoffice.org when installed from debs (via apt) and when installed with the installation system provided by openoffice.org. For some strange reasons, in the former case, openoffice takes a very long while to open, while in the latter case - i'd say, the process is rather instantaneous. Has anyone the same problem with using deb'ized version of openoffice? Or has anyone an idea whereas to why such a big performance difference exists? Paul Hi, I haven't try to install openoffice from the binaries on openoffice.org for a long time. But I do use the .debs. And I must I find OpenOffice rather slow, not only does it take a while to start up, which I find a minor issue. But once started up it 's not fast either. I run it on a pentium III 667 mhz and sometimes m$ office 97 on a pentium 200 mhz seems to run smoother. Specifically the menu's work rather slow when I move my mouse over it they react slow. cheers, Pieter I have noticed what appears to me to be a significant speed-up if you DON'T start it from KDE. I had occasion recently to start it from a basic TWM windows manager, and it was quite a bit faster but not quite "instantaneous" . Dunno about the speed differences between the debs and the tarball installs. I have only used the debs. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
