Prefered Disk set?

2000-09-11 Thread Greg Vence
Hello All,

Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release.  I'd like it
all...   non-us, contrib...

TIA -- Greg.



Installing Potato CD's

2000-07-03 Thread Greg Vence
Hi All,

I've got the Test Cycle 2 CD's but when I get to the step of "Install the
Base System" it
seems to get stuck in going back to that same step.  It asks me for a path
and I choose the default of "/instmnt" it goes out and finds the archive.
Then it returns to the same choice.

Help?

TIA -- Greg.






Installing TC2 disks

2000-07-03 Thread Greg Vence
Hi All,

I've got the CD's but when I get to the step of "Install the Base System" it
seems to get stuck in going back to that same step.  It asks me for a path
and I choose the default of "/instmnt" it goes out and finds the archive.
Then it returns to the same choice.

Help?

TIA -- Greg.



Re: sharing mailbox with win98

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Vence
Micha Feigin wrote:
> 
> I am running on my system potato together with win98
> I wan't to download all my outside mail to my computer (quota problems),
> only the problem is that I keep switching betwin systems (deferent
> projects need deferent systems), so I can't use only one to read mail. I
> was wondering if there is a way to share the local mailbox betwin the
> systems?

One quick way is if you have a primary system, lets say potato, set the
other one to NOT delete messages on the server.  Most mail clients let
you configure that somewhere near creating a mail server connection.  It
is usually on a per server basiss.

HTH -- Greg.


Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Greg Vence
I've got an 8 port 10/100 switch we can use also...  Nothing fancy just
a NetGear box, but it works fine.

Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote:
> 
> Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will 
> be there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor. 
> Who's co ordinating...
> 
> Regards,
> Vaidhy
> 
> On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 07:30:30AM -0700, Greg & Heather Vence wrote:
> > I could haul my printer in again.  Also, I've got a real machine this
> > year...  AMD K6-III 450MHz Viper 770, NetGear 10/100 NIC...  19" Optiquest
> > monitor.
> >
> > Who's coordinating?
> >
> > TIA -- Greg.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ;
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 2:12 PM
> > Subject: RE: So whos going to ALS
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 05-Oct-99 Johnie Ingram wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community
> > > > pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in
> > > > Atlanta?  Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Joey Hess and myself are going.  We have one extra space in the hotel
> > room.
> > > Preferably for a Debian developer, preferably one who needs to save the
> > money.
> > >
> > > We have two double beds and currently three people, a fourth is welcome.
> > If
> > > you want a spot on the floor, well that can be arranged as well (-:
> > >
> > > We arrive Wednesday night at 7:30pm, so room is available from Wednesday
> > night
> > > on thru Saturday night.
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Re: Diamond Viper V770 Ultra

1999-09-29 Thread Greg Vence
I've only got a 770 i.e. 16 MB, don't know if that's what makes the
"Ultra."  However, I've been getting the latest from
http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/xfree86-334-slink/
also, if you haven't, see
http://www.debian.org/~branden/
for the latest info.

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Peter Ludwig wrote:
> 
> I am trying to help someone setup their Diamond Viper V770 Ultra under
> Linux (not sure exactly which distro they use, but I'm a debian person
> myself).
> 
> They are having problems with X-windows (what else?) description of
> problem :-
> 
> 1) Window appears to be four times it's correct size.
> 2) Unable to move the viewport to see the whole X-Windows Screen.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated (I have got them
> to try all the normal possibilities, but they haven't worked for them, I
> am thinking that they need a X-server upgrade...)
> 
> Regards,
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Re: xfree86 3.3.5 in debian

1999-09-24 Thread Greg Vence
Ok, I tried adding a line that said "enlightenment" in
/etc/X11/window-managers and I still got the not //.xsession
file message.  Using Phil's .xinitrc, less the TrueType stuff, worked
fine.

What am I missing in the /etc/X11/window-managers?

TIA -- Greg.

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:
> 
>   Of course, you shouldn't need an .xinitrc or .xsession at all in a
>   user's home directory. To specify the default window manager, just
>   make it the first entry in the file /etc/X11/window-manages. The
>   system wide Xsession should also live under /etc/X11. If it doesn't
>   your system is broked.

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Re: xfree86 3.3.5 in debian

1999-09-22 Thread Greg Vence

Phil Brutsche wrote:
> 
> It looks suspiciously like you're missing the file .xinitrc in your home
> directory.  That's what tells X11 what window manager to use, and so on.
> 
I am in that position and the message is that it cant find an .Xsession
file in the user home directory.  I've not neither a .Xsession nor
.xinitrc file.  I'd like to use Enlightenment as the wm and it didn't
seem to install one.  Do any of the wm's make one?  Where can I get a
sample of either?

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Re: Upgrading XFree86

1999-09-09 Thread Greg Vence
Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 10:13:10AM -0400, Greg Vence wrote:
> > However, I've got a Viper 770 (TNT2 16 MB) and that doesn't show up
> > until 3.3.4 those files are at http://www.debian.org/~branden/
> > As of 48 hrs ago, it had dependency problems on the fonts.  I may try
> > again this weekend if there's been a fix.  Otherwise, I'm considering
> > the Potato option...
> 
> You might want to try getting the xserver binary from ftp.xfree86.org
> and using it with your 3.3.3 installation.
> 
3.3.4 or 3.3.5?  Just the SVGA server?

I tried 3.3.4 and it didn't seem to have the TNT2 card.

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Re: Upgrading XFree86

1999-09-09 Thread Greg Vence
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 08:49:29 -0500, David Kanter wrote:
> > I need some advice on how to upgrade the XFree86 files that came with
> > Slink. My problem is that I have a card (STB nVIDIA TNT, 16 Mb of RAM) not
> > listed in the stable version, but listed in the unstable version of X.
> 
> At http://netgod.net/x/ you can find newer X packages compiled for use on
> "stable".
> 
However, I've got a Viper 770 (TNT2 16 MB) and that doesn't show up
until 3.3.4 those files are at http://www.debian.org/~branden/  
As of 48 hrs ago, it had dependency problems on the fonts.  I may try
again this weekend if there's been a fix.  Otherwise, I'm considering
the Potato option...

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Re: How to uninstall X

1999-09-06 Thread Greg Vence


Brad wrote:
> 
> You can tell dselect to ignore the dependancies. Just use 'Q' (that's
> shift-q) instead of enter to exit the package selection screen, then
> choose Remove from the dselect menu.
> 
> You should of course fix the situation quicky, so as not to leave your
> machine in a broken state.
> 
Could I use this to allow install when the dependencies are incorrect? 
i.e. the main xlib 3.3.4 for slink is versioned 3.3.4-0slink1 when it's
dependents require >= 3.3.4-1

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Re: New X for stable

1999-09-03 Thread Greg Vence

Branden Robinson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Greg & Heather Vence wrote:
> > Thanx for the work on X.  I've got a Viper 770 and was wondering what the
> > plan was for stable?  I know netgod is hosting 3.3.3.x  What about 3.3.4 and
> > 3.3.5?
> 
> Please see <http://www.debian.org/~branden/> for the latest information.
> 
Thanx, bookmarked it...

What about 3.3.5 is it likely to make it into potato?

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Re: startx Fails

1999-08-31 Thread Greg Vence
Yep, I'll check that out tonight.  Where on the system do I put it?

I told it 16384, so I'm guessing it is a cascade from the unknown
chipset.

Thanx again -- Greg.

Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> Looking at what you posted:
> 
> > (--) SVGA: videoram: 64k
> 
> This might be your problem.  Are you running kernel 2.2.12?  I had a
> similar problem after my latest kernel upgrage in that it no longer
> detected my video memory and I had to add a line in
> /etc/X11/XF86Config Device section:
> 
>  VideoRam2048
> 
> It looks like your chipset isn't detected either. I understand that
> NVidia has a custom XFree86 driver you can download from their web site.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 07:18:38AM -0700, Greg & Heather Vence wrote:
> > Ok, here's the output...  BTW, it's a pain in the real only having a M$ box
> > currently working here at home...
> >
> > Thanx again -- Greg.
> > -
> >
> > XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System
> > (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
> > Release Date: January 4 1999
> >  If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
> >  than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
> >  problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
> > Operating System: Linux 2.2.4 i686 [ELF]
> > Configured drivers:
> >   SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
> >   NV1, STG2000, RIVA128, RIVATNT, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i,
> >   ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a,
> >   ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100,
> >   et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33,
> >   gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225,
> >   sis5597, sis5598, sis6326, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b,
> >   tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
> >   tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
> >   tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
> >   cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
> >   3dimage985, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428,
> >   clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462,
> >   clgd5464, clgd5465, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541,
> >   clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e,
> >   cpq_avga, mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200,
> >   mgag100, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301,
> >   ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7,
> >   ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_virge,
> >   AP6422, AT24, AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160,
> >   NM2200, ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
> >   ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
> >   ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2x00, p9100, spc8110, generic
> > (using VT number 7)
> >
> > XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
> > (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
> > (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings)
> > (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
> > (**) Mouse: buttons: 3, Chorded middle button
> > (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Diamond Viper 770"
> > (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Optiquest V95"
> > (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
> > (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
> > (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
> > (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
> > (**) FontPath set to
> > "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/us
> > r/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/
> > X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X
> > 11/fonts/100dpi/"
> > (--) SVGA: PCI: NVidia Unknown chipset (0x0028) rev 17, Memory @ 0xe200,
> > 0xe400
> > (--) SVGA: chipset:  generic
> > (--) SVGA: videoram: 64k
> > (--) SVGA: clocks:  25.18
> > (**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
> > (--) SVGA: Using builtin driver modes
> > (--) SVGA: Builtin Mode: 320x200
> > (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 320x204
> > (--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
> >

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Re: Another Partition spacing...

1999-08-25 Thread Greg Vence
Thanx

I think I'll do:
   root 256M
   swap 256M
   var  1G
   usr  3G
   home 3.5G

Thanx again -- Greg.

" Raymond A. Ingles" wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:19:02AM -0400, Greg Vence wrote:
> > > What about:
> > >root 1.5GB
> > >var  2
> > >usr  2
> > >home 2.256
> > >swap .256 (128 MB ram)
> >
> > root is MUCH too big.
> 
>  /var is kind of big as well, unless you're planning on putting a newsfeed
> there or you regularly spool multi-megabyte files for printing or
> something. Best to give the extra space to /usr or /home.
> 
>  Sincerely,
> 
>  Ray Ingles  (248) 377-7735  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Another Partition spacing...

1999-08-25 Thread Greg Vence
What about:
   root 1.5GB
   var  2
   usr  2
   home 2.256
   swap .256 (128 MB ram)
?
TIA -- Greg.


Re: DFI motherboards

1999-08-20 Thread Greg Vence
I just purchased one but its a P6??? board.  I'll be loading Debian on
it  this weekend...  It's got an AMD K6-III 450 MHz chip.

L8r -- Greg


Jon Hughes wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had experience with DFI motherboards (P2XBL) with Linux?  I'm
> considering purchasing one and am looking for opinions.
>


Re: public or private company

1999-08-11 Thread Greg Vence
Greetings,

Actually, Debian created SPI to handle the legal stuff...  SPI is a
non-profit organization.  See the following URL for a news release.

http://www.spi-inc.org/news/1999/19990602b

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SecureID & ( Shiva | Gandalf) modems

1999-06-23 Thread Greg Vence
Has anyone got clues on getting SecureID going dialing into Shiva or
Gandalf modems?

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Re: Debian not included in Infomagic's June LDR (plus a little a

1999-06-14 Thread Greg Vence
Pollywog wrote:
> 
> On 13-Jun-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Infomagic should put Debian back on their CDs, but its useless to put
> > so little care into the quality of the product.  I guess they figured
> > Debian users aren't real customers.  I *used* to be. Not anymore.
> > Hope someone from Infomagic reads this thread, but they're probably
> > too busy on the Red Hat newsgroups.
> 
> Is there something magical about Infomagic CD's?  I understand they are lousy
> CD's and there are other vendors, such as CheapBytes and LSL, which probably
> deliver a better product.
> 

Best I can tell is that Infomagic is what most of the stores here seem
to keep in stock.  Haven't seen CheapBytes or LSL in stores.

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EBCDIC --> ASCII|ANSI ???

1999-06-04 Thread Greg Vence
Hey all,

Looking for something like "beav" that is more stream based.  Ideas?  It
needs to unpack packed fields and correctly translate binary fields too.

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Re: EDI?

1999-05-19 Thread Greg Vence
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> 
> On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 02:07:43PM -0400, Greg Vence wrote:
> > Looking for a pointer to a GNU EDI environment/project.
> 
> EDI == EDA? http://www.geda.seul.org/

Actually EDI != EDA
EDI is Electronic Data Interchange

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EDI?

1999-05-17 Thread Greg Vence
Hey,

Looking for a pointer to a GNU EDI environment/project.

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Re: Cobalt Qube

1999-05-05 Thread Greg Vence
Ok, gotta ask...

Now that you've had the NetWinder a while, what do you think of it as a
possible workstation?

Shaleh wrote:
> 
> Qube:
> 
> small
> pretty
> geek drool
> 
> *NO* vid card PERIOD
> a slow mips processor (over priced for the hardware)
> closed box
> a net appliance not a workstation
>


Sound?

1999-04-29 Thread Greg Vence
What are the new sound cards supported by Linux?  i.e. Blaster 128 and
up or Yamaha...

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DVD?

1999-04-28 Thread Greg Vence
What is the state of DVD in Linux?  I've searched our site and nothing
comes up on it?

TIA -- Greg.


Up-to-date Hardware list

1999-04-26 Thread Greg Vence
Just looking at the web site and the hardware list (HOWTO) is getting
close to a year old...  Is there a more up-to-date file or site?

TIA -- Greg.


Re: Debian goes big business? [was: Re: Suggestion for RedHat (was: RH vs Debian)]

1999-01-19 Thread Greg Vence
"Eric Gillespie, Jr." wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Christian Lavoie wrote:
> 
> > I starting to think this whole mess started on a word understanding
> > problem. I wouldn't name such an organization a 'corporation', =P
> >
> 
> Since "corporation" is the legal term for the type of entity I am
> describing, I don't see what's wrong with calling it a democratic
> corporation.
> 
The problem is this is neither.  Debian isn't a Democracy, its a
Republic. :)  Otherwise, all you'd need is enough ignorant people voting
for a stupid idea and the project would be ruined.

In a _real_ Republic, you put the smart people to work making a minimal
set of rules that we all follow.

Corporations are owned by shareholders.  It is a democracy.  How do you
trade shares, money?  Who gets how many?  What happens when BillyG owns
50.1%, or pick your favorite aspiring businessman?

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Re: Who's the ian part in Debian?

1998-12-04 Thread Greg Vence
Just another Ian... ;)  President of SPI, Highly Worshiped Grand Poohba
of the Debian Project.

Hah, just another Ian!  Now, what about Ean...

Ok, its friday and I'm still caged at work -- Greg.

Shaleh wrote:
> 
> Ian Murdock is the "ian".  Debra is his wife.
> 
> Ian Jackson is just another Ian (we have a few).
> 
> On 04-Dec-98 zhaoway wrote:
> > Just curiousity from a, hmmm  :-)
> > Who is the ian part in debian?
> > Ian Jackson or Ian Murdock? What's the relationship between the two?
> > And where'e debra mentioned in the debian faq? Just curiosity,
> > in no means I want to be offensive. And sorry for my poor english :-)
> 

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Re: Install: Getting beyond 2GB on old IDE

1998-11-27 Thread Greg Vence
Dude, actually this is an EIDE box.  540mb was origial IDE.  It seems
that EIDE had a 2.0? wall.  UDMA EIDE I'm not sure of the limit... 
However, the bus it the same so you can use larger drives on the old
systems.  But in dos-land you've got to get a special driver (included
from maxtor).

If figured that if they could get around it in software, so could we... 
BIOS says 8/2/95

Ideas?

Thanx -- Greg.

Shaleh wrote:
> 
> Greg, what year is the BIOS?  Some BIOS' only support 540mb, or 1.6gb, or
> others.
> 
> On 27-Nov-98 Greg Vence wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I've got an old slug for fs work.  Its got a Maxtor 8GB drive.  When I
> > boot the system it hangs unless I use there jumper.
> >
> >  cyl,  Heads, Sectors
> > Looks like  4092, 16, 63
> > Should be  16351, 16, 63
> >
> > I thougth using cfdisk to tell it the truth would work but it doesn't
> > just giving error that it couldn't read the disk.
> >
> > How / when in install do I get the full 8GB to work with.  I'd really
> > like to get do it before the dselect.
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Install: Getting beyond 2GB on old IDE

1998-11-27 Thread Greg Vence
Hey,

I've got an old slug for fs work.  Its got a Maxtor 8GB drive.  When I
boot the system it hangs unless I use there jumper.

 cyl,  Heads, Sectors
Looks like  4092, 16, 63
Should be  16351, 16, 63

I thougth using cfdisk to tell it the truth would work but it doesn't
just giving error that it couldn't read the disk.

How / when in install do I get the full 8GB to work with.  I'd really
like to get do it before the dselect.

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Re: quicky postgreSQL question

1998-11-25 Thread Greg Vence
Shaleh wrote:
> 
> How can I read in a comma delimited file and have the contents added to a SQL
> table?  I seem to recall there being a program that did this for postgres.
> 
In the comercial world, several vendors call it bcp.  Don't have access
to psql here... yet.


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Re: bellsouth.net

1998-11-09 Thread Greg Vence
Chris Hoover wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what bellsouth.net is using for connect strings?  I
> tried to connect with the standard pppconfig stuff, but it is exiting
> out right after dialing the number.  The ppp.log file has a line with
> alarm followed by the line(s) stating that it is exiting.
> 
> Any ideas on what to do next?
> 
They used to have a Linux document.  But they don't let you see it
unless you're dialed in.  I'm consulting on-site(another BellSouth div)
so I can't see it. (wierd)

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Re: [HalloweenII] RedHat and Debian:

1998-11-06 Thread Greg Vence
Greg Vence wrote:
> 
> Vincent Murphy wrote:
> >
> > > Well, not to rock the boat, but I see more .rpm's that I do .deb's
> > > on the net.  I mean, yeah, you can go to www.debian.org to get a
> > > whole boatload of packages, but that's about as far as you go.
> >
> > I think a lot of rpm's you see out there suck. One of the reasons I dig
> > Debian so much is the .deb packages are so great, and because they 
> > (generally)
> > (un)install themselves really well. The same can't be said of rpm, I think.
> > All I know is I was pissed off when I was using .rpms with Redhat, and when 
> > I
> > started using dpkg on debian, I was very pleased. And still am.
> >
> If you think RH is bad at uninstall, you should run in M$ environment
> more often, PITA!!  (I mean dude, why would you want to uninstall
> Office? -- M$ Tech Support (not words but attitude))
> 
Oops, besides ranting, I meant to point out that this is why M$ can't
see anything but the top dog.  That's all they seem to be interested
in.  Remember, to them its about making money.  That changes their
perspective.  I've sat in meetings where the real goal was to figure out
how little we had to do to get 80% of users to spend $50 for an
upgrade...

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Re: [HalloweenII] RedHat and Debian:

1998-11-06 Thread Greg Vence
Vincent Murphy wrote:
> 
> > Well, not to rock the boat, but I see more .rpm's that I do .deb's
> > on the net.  I mean, yeah, you can go to www.debian.org to get a
> > whole boatload of packages, but that's about as far as you go.
> 
> I think a lot of rpm's you see out there suck. One of the reasons I dig
> Debian so much is the .deb packages are so great, and because they (generally)
> (un)install themselves really well. The same can't be said of rpm, I think.
> All I know is I was pissed off when I was using .rpms with Redhat, and when I
> started using dpkg on debian, I was very pleased. And still am.
> 
If you think RH is bad at uninstall, you should run in M$ environment
more often, PITA!!  (I mean dude, why would you want to uninstall
Office? -- M$ Tech Support (not words but attitude))

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Re: rawrite2 & NT

1998-11-02 Thread Greg Vence
Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Jeff Katcher wrote:
>  :
>  : Greg Vence wrote:
>  : > It appears that rawrite2 doesn't work with NT.  Is there one that does?
>  : > I didn't see it going 0-1-0-1-... on side.  Is there something I'm
>  : > missing?
>  :
>  : No, I had the same results - EXCEPT that my disks worked PERFECTLY.  I
>  : don't know why NT dosn't show the 0-1-0-1-... on side, but it Works
>  : Fine.
> 
> Perhaps because the NT Command Prompt is running in a window, and it's
> too lazy to update the 0 and 1 each time?
> 

I'd believe lazy. :)  Actually, it seems that the (user) error was that
the disks needed to be freshly formated.  Anyway, that potential server
wasn't supported by any of the Linux vendors.  Compaq doesn't even
support it and this box is <3 yo.

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rawrite2 & NT

1998-10-07 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

It appears that rawrite2 doesn't work with NT.  Is there one that does? 
I didn't see it going 0-1-0-1-... on side.  Is there something I'm
missing?

I'm not sure if I can find a Win95 box.  But would it work there?

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Re: [EDI software]

1998-10-06 Thread Greg Vence
EDI = Electronic Data Interchange.  It is a layer in Electronic
Commerce.  However, I haven't seen it on Linux, but haven't really
looked either.

Syed Huq wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Did you mean EDA ?? What is EDI ??
> 

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Re: ISDN question

1998-09-23 Thread Greg Vence
G. Kapetanios wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have the ooportunity to have an ISDN line instead of modem at my home. I
> was wondering whether having an ISDN connection is straighforward with
> debian ? there is a package in hamm called isdnutils. However,
> what I found on the net was a FAQ (rather old) for a package called
> isdn4linux. Are these the same ? Any ideas about a good external terminal
> adpter ? Any other manuals around ?
> Thanks very much for any help
> George
> 
It appears that the most popular configuration is to use ISDN routers on
a network.  This removes the need to work with an ISDN device and look
at it as another Network address.  I'm looking at the NetGear product
for economy.  Others seem to like Ascend, but they're significantly
more.

I have a SpellCaster card that I'm going to replace with a router...  It
is a little flakey.  (I use it in Win95 & linux).

Of cousre USA ISDN != Other ISDN...

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Re: Debian DSELECT

1998-09-13 Thread Greg Vence
You going to hear that most of the things you've suggested are being
address or 'in the works.'  The reason for this is that Debian & Linux
are from the Unix background.  

1) Supported by volunteers.  The volunteers are usually building stuff
they find useful and donate it back to the public.  

2) These volunteers have been in a highly technical environment.  You'll
see solutions there first.  Unix was used for 'big' machines.  Now that
it is being used more on a desktop level, you'll see more 'hold your
hand' or 'management' type software come available.  First priority is a
solid secure machine.  Many Linux boxes are servers or otherwise
publicly available machines.

Joris Lambrecht wrote:
> 
> 1. Easy of use and installation (though now i mind less after 2 weeks of
> getting grips labour)

We're addressing this.  Look at www.debian.org and search on 'apt'

> 2. D O C U M E N T A T I O N ( why all these cryptic files and no real
> database ??? HTML yes?)
> 
When the documentation is lacking, you can get help from the userbase
and/or developers.  This isn't the case w/ M$.  Yes, coders probably
don't make the best tech writers.  You might consider helping out in
this area.

> Installing and removing LOOKS easy but there's very little REAL
> version/dependency checking done.

In my experiance Debian is far superior to anything Micro$oft has put
out.  We had version checking long before they did.  On any Win32
platform, try installing ODBC 16-bit and 32-bit then install Access 2.0
and 7.0(97) now add drivers for Oracle & Sybase (Why? try supporting
several platforms as a dev in M$-land.)  Try installing two different
versions of VB on that system.

> Geez, sometimes i start thinking of winDOWs as a better platform just
> because one can up a system
> doing simple installation procedures. HELP i'm no

Sure, I've seen many people loose stuff installing on a M$ machine too. 
If you really want help, ask the question.  If all you want to do is
rant, you'll probably get very few responses.  We didn't force you to
use this OS.  (We're not getting compensated for helping either).

BTW, don't even think about mentioning upgrades from Win95 to Win98. 
I've known more people who 'Get to start with a clean system' when the
tried to 'upgrade' than have success.

> hacker/coder/programmer/techie just an experienced user
> of operating systems doswinlix and NOT even considering to become one.
> REALLY leave the coding to the
> guys/girls who know what they're doing i think to myself. But all i see
> is NEW kernel releases and NOT
> new USER friendly add-ons such as installation, configuration, manual
> database, manuals with more indepth
> information on exactly what files to alter etc . . .
> 
If you've spent more than a month reading the debian-devel or
debian-user, I think you'd see more anticipation regarding apt and other
such projects than kernal releases.  

> To set the record straight, I REALLY LIKE DEBIAN LINUX and the other
> LINUX Distributions, i just think
> it's disturbing to 'allready' see flaws in development. My thoughts on
> this are 'of course' not complete or even
> accurate but should indicate, again the need for a Standard User
> Friendly environment to people leaving the
> winDOWs platform or choosing to widen their horizon.
> 
It is also in the works.  Actually, it is compatibility amongst the
Linux community.  This will probably drag the Commercial UNIX
implementations along with it.  (The bin compatible libc6 did.)  Debian
is already able to install RedHat packages(RPMs) and vice versa.

> Finally, why not deliver a good WORDprocessor on the distribution /
> contribution CDR ?
> It's considered a Major lack in any distribution.
> 
Interesting, M$, MacOS, OS/2(is it really major) don't seem to have one
included in the OS.  If you want one, you've got to pay for it.  Now if
you want a text editor, Debian comes with several.  Infact, we have
spelling checkers for several languages.  Do they?

If you want suite software, you have a choice of at least three for
Linux.

Agian, if you have a _real_ question, do a little searching, ask the
list (providing information of where you're at in the process).
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Re: PON on REQUEST

1998-09-11 Thread Greg Vence
Me too.  What I considered is using CallerID(ANI).  However, if you call
from inside a PBX, anybody calling the house could do it.  If you've got
a cell phone, this could work.   I've also got ISDN,
therefore, I get DNIS (which line was being called).  Using the
'unlisted' nubmer would also give a level of selectivity.  ANI and DNIS
are sent before the call is answered...

I'm then planning on using mail or ftp to execute shell scripts. 
(Customer site firewall blocks telnet but not mail or ftp. :)

Shaleh wrote:
> 
> I have been contemplating this.  If you could get a program to answer
> the modem line, when you call it picks up and then hangs up, it launches
> ppp (similar to using something in the ip-down script).  Should be
> do-able.
> 
> Lazar Fleysher wrote:
> >
> > Greeting everyone,
> >
> > Very often, I have to work on my home computer from other places and I do
> > not want to have my home computer on-line all the time.
> >
> > Would it be possible to configure it in such a way so when I call home say
> > two times in a row, pon would be executed automaticaly and ip-up ( I did
> > it already) would post the IP address of the home computer on a designated
> > page?
> >
> > Thank you for suggestions,
> >
> > ZORO
> >
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Re: y2k (don't kill me!)

1998-09-09 Thread Greg Vence
No problem.

http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19980104

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Motherboard Quesiton

1998-09-02 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

In building a cluster, I'd like a motherboard/bios that supports a LAN
managed system.  I'm looking to not use a keyboard, monitor, or mouse
after the initial set-up.

I'll be accessing these systems through the LAN by telnet etc.  Do you
know if this is common, rare, whatever in MB's today? Who/model?

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Re: Beowulf cluster

1998-09-01 Thread Greg Vence
Here is one other HOWTO
http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/research/beowulf/tutorial/

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Re: Beowulf cluster

1998-08-28 Thread Greg Vence
M.C. Vernon wrote:
> 
> Hmm - is beowulf a .deb? and if so, is it in /slink/non-free
> 
It seems to be available as RPM's.  You can use alien to get it
installed.

> (not that I can offord to have one right now, but maybe)
> 
Me either.  However, as a consultant I see 486's trashed from time to
time...

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Re: Beowulf cluster

1998-08-27 Thread Greg Vence
Home Page
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/beowulf/beowulf.html

HOWTO
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/beowulf/howto/howto.html

Enjoy -- Greg.

Gregory Dickinson wrote:
> 
> This might sound silly, but does anyone know of any documentation anywhere 
> that tells one how
> to set up a Beowulf-type cluster for SMP.
> 
> --Thanks,
> 
> Greg Dickinson
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Re: netMeeting

1998-08-25 Thread Greg Vence
I'd have to guess NO.  There are too many possible proprietary
(non-free) interfaces.  General API, Compression etc.  Of couse you
could write M$ and ask them when they're going to port it. :)

You'd be much more likely to find a GNU project that is available on all
your intereted platforms, instead of waiting for M$.

L8r -- Greg.


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> 
> is there a program that can talk to netmeeting?
> 
> BG
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Re: DEBIAN 2.0 FAQ Tue Aug 18

1998-08-18 Thread Greg Vence
What happened to the FAQ-O-MATIC?  Did it die?

Jens Ritter wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> This is a rather crude and quick hammered FAQ list for the DEBIAN GNU/Linux 
> System.
> 
> Version: Tue Aug 18 13:00:00 CEST 1998
> 
> (C) 1998 Jens Ritter.
> You may want to apply one of the Gnu Public Licenses to this document.
> 



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Re: xwindows manager

1998-05-13 Thread Greg Vence
Check out http://www.PLiG.org/xwinman/ for a listing of what is
available.
Each of the images goes to a review.  Each review has links to the
screen shots.  

Note that Enlightenment (E) has a completely user definable look called
Theme's.  This means that Enlightenment, with the right Theme, may look
and behave as any other WM, also it may have theme's that are not
available as another WM.  However, it's big and slow, but getting
faster.

Enjoy -- Greg.

Keith Alen Vance wrote:
> 
> I think I might need a windows manager. I have xwindows installed and
> functioning, but when I go into it all I get is shell window. I installed
> a couple of small programs but do not know how to start them. I am
> assuming that I can start them by typing a command in the shell window,
> but I don't know what that command is. Anyways that is neither here nor
> there. Do I need a windows manager? If I do need a windows manager and
> why and more importantly which one?
> 
> Keith
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Re: Installing Debian Linux the hard way...HELP!

1998-05-12 Thread Greg Vence
Will Lowe wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  I don't know much about null modem cables.  Too bad you don't have
> CD drive handy,  but anyway:
> 
> > man doesn't seem to work on my machine. ( I get bash: man: command not
> > found)
> man's not on the base disks,  because the manpages themselves take up
> quite a bit of space.
> 
> > Linux/UNIX book I could get from the Web so I can start to learn my way
> "Running Linux",  by Matt Walsh.  Get it from O'Reilly Publishers,
> www.ora.com.  Good book.  There's also a book out on running Debian
> specifically,  but I've not had a chance to read it yet.
> 
http://www.linuxpress.com/
It is the "Linux Debian User's Guide"

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Re: ISDN

1998-05-08 Thread Greg Vence
Timothy C. Phan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   I'm think to change my phone to ISDN.  I'd like to know if
>   PPP/IP masquerade setup for the Linux box would be the same
>   for ISDN.
> 
There would be some tweekings.  However, it should run pretty much the
same with externals being easier here.

Also, in the USA, currently only SpellCaster supports Linux on internal
cards.  The M$ drivers that come with it suck.  I'm not running Linux on
that box, yet...

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Re: E(nlightenment)

1998-05-08 Thread Greg Vence
Shaleh wrote:
> 
> The debs on E.org are WAY WAY WAY out of date.  and do odd things.  E
> .14 is out the 28th of this month.  I will have a package up as soon
> after that as possible.  If you can not wait I suppose I could make a
> temporary package that is NOT an official policy following package.
> However E is not that hard to compile -- it compiles almost out of the
> box for me (I remove a few of its -l flags).
> 

Does this mean that E will be (more) Debian compliant?  

Also, are .13 Themes compatable with .14?

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E(nlightenment)

1998-05-07 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Who is using E as their window manager?

What are the issues involved w/ Debian?

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Re: changing a users group

1998-05-07 Thread Greg Vence
Matthew D. Myers wrote:
> 
> How do you change a users group assignments without manually editing the
> passwd and group  and also shadowed files.
> 
Check out the FAQ-o-matic
http://www.debian.org/fom/1.html

More specifically, here
http://www.debian.org/fom/122.html

It dices, slices & for 19.95, we'll throw in the steak knives. :)

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EPoX motherboard

1998-02-27 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Is anyone using EPoX motherboards successfully?  Specifically, I'm
interested in the Dual P2 model KP6-LS.

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AGP Video

1998-02-11 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

What AGP cards are being used successfully with X?  Specifically, I'm
considering the Matrox Millenium II AGP.

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Re: web site

1997-10-24 Thread Greg Vence
David R Baker wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I get "this document contains no data" when I try to access
> http://www.debian.org .
> 
I'm getting it too.  Is there a problem with the server, Tim?

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Re: Stop rc5v2 client, Bovine team won 56 bit secret key challenge!

1997-10-23 Thread Greg Vence
Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
> 
>  I don't think it has already been reported on this mailing list,
> anyway, just for who is letting the rc5v2 client run:
> www.distributed.net
> gives details. Ok, maybe the Linux community started late and we were
> not
> the greatest contributors, but we _did_ contribute to that 47%
> keyspace
> exploration.
> 

If you care to run it, they've released a rc5 64 bit client... :)

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Re: ISA Adaptec and RAM > 16 megs

1997-09-25 Thread Greg Vence
Berni Ernst wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I installed debian 1.3.2 on my porty computer which is an older
> Pentium (60) with an adaptec 1542cf ISA scsi controller.
> As soon as I install more than 16 megs of memory the system crashes
> sooner or later without any message. Reducing the memory to 16 megs
> stops the crashes.
> 
> Can I use the adaptec1542cf only with a maximum of 16 megs ? Can't
> believe !
> 
I'd guess that it's just the 16 MB whole.  Check out the Installation
dock and grep for 16.  I've got a similar Adaptec and it runs fine.

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Re: Token Ring

1997-09-19 Thread Greg Vence
Terry Dawson wrote:
> 
> Greg,
> Have you checked the NET-3-HOWTO, was it any use?
> If not, please let me know why, I'm always keen to improve it.
> 
> regards
> Terry
> 
That's a good document.  I like it as much as NAG and its shorter. :)

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Token Ring

1997-09-15 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

I've read the mini-FAQ on token ring and they don't talk about Debian. 
What are the steps to successful tr0 ?

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge Config & Performance

1997-09-03 Thread Greg Vence
Alex Monaghan wrote:
> 
> Ferenc Kiraly wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Tan Wee Yeh wrote,
> > > :Indeed it does but we have a lot of catching up to do... Apple's
> > > :rate is currently 6 time that of ours... pls refer to:
> > > : http://rc5stats.distributed.net/emtop100.idc
> > > :I'm pumping in 1 alpha500 + 2 PPro 200 + 1 P200mmx.
> > >   
> > > Bad news, this does not seem to be running.  I checked the
> > > process and the guy is kinda stalled.  Anybody successfully
> > > ran the client for an OSF??
> >
> > As long as you're asking ... Has anyone successfully ran the client
> > on a HP Apolo 700 running HP-UX 10?? I have 3 available machines.
> 
> Should we be identifying ourselves as Linux when on non Linux platforms ?
> 
This is 'marketing' I'd guess that some of [EMAIL PROTECTED] isn't Mac
or PPC.  The dual PPro I can use from time to time is NT. :\  But I'd
guess that our mass of stats comes from lots of 'little itty bitty
pieces' from the 486 class machines.

BTW, Bill Gates told a former boss of mine about wrapping ones foot in
the power cord in case of GPF for demos. :)  Another well known trick is
to 'demo' a slug on the table with a work-hourse under the drapes of the
folding table that the cables really connect to.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-30 Thread Greg Vence
Another machine.  I've got a dual PPro 200 working on it plus a couple
of other slugs.

HTH -- Greg.

Ferenc Kiraly wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This is just to encourage more Linux users to join the effort:
> 
> I have just set up 4 machines to help crack the RC5 challenge, three
> of which are permanently on the Internet and one is occasionally
> connected via a PPP link. Lets beat those rotten apples.
> 
> feri.
> 
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Greg Vence
Tommy Lakofski wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote:
> 
> > Wasn't there a method to register as a Linux group box or Debian?
> How
> > do I do this if its still available?
> >
> > Thanx -- Greg.
> 
> yup -- set your id in the client to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (without the
> quotes). If the linux effort finishes first $1000 goes to Linux
> International (www.li.org).
> 
Sorry,  I RTFM and it seems that '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' seems to be the
place to go as they are in 2nd place and would give the $$$ to LI.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux

1997-08-29 Thread Greg Vence
Tommy Lakofski wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Debian mail-lists receiver wrote:
> 
> > From: Debian mail-lists receiver
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:36:47 -0400 (EDT)
> > Subject: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RC5 challenge and linux
> >
> >   >I'd like to encourage all readers on the list with a
> reasonably regular
> >   >connection to the internet to download and run the rc5v2
> client from
> >   >http://rc5.distributed.net/ (download the client at
> >   >
> ftp://ftp.distributed.net/pub/rc5/v2.004/rc5v2b4-linux-x86.tar.gz)
> >
> > What's RC5?
> 
> It's an encryption standard developed by RSA (www.rsa.com). The effort
> is
> partly to persuade the powers that be that 56-bit encryption is
> inadequate
> to secure communications.
> 
Wasn't there a method to register as a Linux group box or Debian?  How
do I do this if its still available?

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POV-ray?

1997-08-21 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ? 
Can you see it or not?

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Debian Counter?

1997-08-20 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Would it be worth putting up a debian counter?  We could use it to count
where you got your distribution from.

One thing I'm guessing is that a lot of us that use Debian got a CD when
the prices droped from Gold to Silver. :)  This could just be repeat
business...  (Base CD and then update from net.)

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Re: Help: My ISDN dial-in is not working

1997-08-19 Thread Greg Vence
T.G.H. de Grunt wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm trying to get my ISDN working.
> I already have my card recognized in Linux, also
> the ISDN utilities are working.
> So no I want to dial in to my provider.
> 
> I checked some URL's for help on ISDN4linux:
> 
> http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~ui16lab/www/isdn/setup_e.htm
> http://www.wurtel.demon.nl/i4l-howto-nl.html
> 
Hello,

I'm about to go through this process.  I've noticed that many people
treat the ISDN device just like a modem and skip all the other 'special
stuff' from these help guides.  I'm not sure if that is a locality issue
though.

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RE: Internal ISDN

1997-08-11 Thread Greg Vence
Are you saying that any ISDN device will work as a modem just not a {Efficient 
| Fast} as it should?

Is it missing the dynamic badwidth and other features?

Has anyone used the Diamond SupraNetCommander ISDN?  It appears to be one of 
the cheeper ones that might work with Linux.

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Internal ISDN

1997-08-11 Thread Greg Vence
I just got to the part of the mini HOWTO "PPP-over-ISDN" and it says
that there are few if any _internal_ ISDN devices that are able to be
used by Linux.

Date: 13-APR-96

Since then, there must be something more recient.  What?

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[Fwd: [ale] Taking the genre about as far as it will go. (fwd)]

1997-08-01 Thread Greg Vence
--- Begin Message ---
}Forwarded-by: Keith Bostic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Forwarded-by: Christophe Kalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}Forwarded-by: Cliff Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
}From: Peter Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
} 
}Windows 95: n.
}   32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an
}   8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor,
}   written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
}
}


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Dual Pentium Machines

1997-07-13 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Its time to upgrade...  What dual Pentium machines do people like and
what have known problems?  I looked in LDP and didn't see anything
regarding this topic.

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Re: Certification

1997-07-08 Thread Greg Vence
Aldrin L. M. Leal wrote:
> 
> I was looking around, haven't found, but i think it's a good
> idea to promote some effort to create a Linux sort of certified
> professional. Like, "Certified Linux Admin", "Programmer", "User",
> "Manager", and so forth... the first great advantage occurs when big
> business (the usual IBM client) wants to go down to linux. By having a
> certification, you provide rules for choosing an expert, like Novell
> and
> Microsoft do.
> 
> Does anybody want to discuss this? :]
> 
Sure,

Most of the time, certification is a great way for the vendor to make an
extra buck.  I've found in the M$ world that scores on a multiple-guess
test that has been heavly coached is a _poor_ indicator real-world
results.  It seems that the portfolio of recient projects usually
out-weighs the certification.  Its the same reason that fresh grads have
fewing fun options.  Most advertisments are looking for experiance and
really want results.

However, maybe the commercial software world should consider a POSIX
certification instead.  The reasoning I'd provide for this instead of
more specific is that those specifics are fairly easly found by
individuals with enough initiative to RTFM (my def: Read The _Fine_
Manual).  Even if there is only enough initiative to ask the group on a
Linux or Debian list, there is usually sufficient quick turn-around to
support a 'flavor novice.'

Just my view from Atlanta.

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Re: Dselect replacement?

1997-07-01 Thread Greg Vence
Linux dist. research wrote:
> 
> I saw a reference to a possible future replacement for dselect.  Does
> anyone know about this?
> 
It's called the 'Diety' project.  The last time I asked (about a week
ago), the response was "Patience Grasshopper."  They are about to
announce another major milestone.

The main engine will allow for several UI's  (www, x, text).  Also, it
will better support the networked servers(Debian Repositories) and
clients(Machines needing installation and management).

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Re: ftp.debian.org down?

1997-06-28 Thread Greg Vence
George Bonser wrote:
> 
> errr, make that 192.221.26.1   had too many IP addresses on this
> paper.
> 
> On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> >
> > My traceroute gets as far as gateway1.gatech.edu (208.153.128.135)
> and
> > dies there.
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- santanni.cc.gatech.edu ping statistics ---
> > > 3 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 33% packet loss
> > > round-trip min/avg/max = 380.4/399.7/419.1 ms
> > >
Yesterday we had some rough thunderstorms here in the metro Atlanta area
(home of GA Tech and ftp.debian.org)  I can see it now however, it lost
1 of 10 and min was 291 ms and max was 527 ms.

At least ftp.debian.org is reachable.  Right now, master.debian.org is
down.
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Print to IP

1997-06-24 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

How/where could I find info on printing to an IP printer?

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Re: netscape 4.0

1997-06-09 Thread Greg Vence
Lawrence Chim wrote:
> 
> Randy Edwards wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Lawrence Chim wrote:
> >
> > > Does netscape beta 4.0 installer support preview 5?
> > > It does not work for me.  I found a symlink
> /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape -->
> > > .../../lib/netscape, but there is no such file/directory.
> >
> >Well it mostly works.  It installs netscape properly into
> > /usr/local/netscape but the symlink in /usr/X11R6/bin is bad.
> >
> >You can fix this by su'ing to root, rm'ing the netscape symlink
> in
> > /usr/X11R6/bin, and then creating a new one by doing a "ln -s
> > /usr/local/netscape/netscape netscape".
> >
> >Either that or creating a script to "cd /usr/local/netscape" and
> then
> > run netscape there will fix the problem.
> >
> 
> So it is a bug and it should be fixed or removed from 1.3.
> 
If we removed every package that had a bug, what would be left would be
useless.  Any software of significance has problems.  BTW, did you see
what 1.2 looked like at 'release' compared to this?

The fixes are well known and easily administratable on a small machine
count basis.

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Re: HTML in email

1997-05-22 Thread Greg Vence
Dima wrote:
> 
> >>>"Civ Kevin F. Havener" wrote:
>   >A sort of novice question:
>   >
>   >I read my mail with pine.  Occasionally I get mail from this list
> and
>   >from others that has HTML markup embedded within it.  What causes
> this?
> 
> Netscape, for one.  It sends mail/news as html by default (and of
> course it
> won't tell you that.)
> 
However, it does have a different display.  If you set it to Text
instead of HTML you loose the formatting toolbar.
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Re: NEED info concerning "US Robotics" modem

1997-05-05 Thread Greg Vence
Eugene Sevinian wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> recently I read some warnings concerning hardware components which
> were desighned for Windows 95. Unfortunately I found that the cheapest
> modem avialable here is such one :(
> 
> ( US Robotics Sportster 14.4 Faxmodem Internal V.32 bis with V.42 bis)
> 
The above modem will work fine.  However, if it says "WinModem" RUN
AWAY, RUN FAR FAR AWAY. (Unless of course you like running a
monopolistic operating system that is trying to get a lock on the
hardware market too.)
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Re: ppp redial problem

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Rob Browning wrote:
> 
> "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > You mean the modem device or something else? I am using /dev/modem which
> > is symlinked to /dev/ttyS1 in pppd as well minicom and pppupd both of
> > which redial correctly.
> 
> I may be mistaken, but I think that this can cause problems in some
> cases, especially with respect to device locking.  I think using a
> symlink means that in certain locking strategies which base the
> lockfile name on the file name, a program locking /dev/modem will use
> the lockfile /var/lock/dev.modem or something, while other programs
> which are trying to use ttyS1 will use /var/lock/dev.ttyS1.  Both
> programs will think they have exclusive access to the device, and both
> will be wrong.
> 
Please don't let me start another editor snowball here.  What is the
difference between /dev/ttyS0 and /dev/cua0?

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Re: Question on install

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Alexander Koch wrote:
> 
> Quoting Paul Wade ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> [...]
> > > My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd)
> > > and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda
> > > (lilo) is taken.
> >
> > Is the floppy drive trying to read at boot? Make sure your system bios is
> > set up for proper boot order A:,C: and not C:,A:
> >
> > If that doesn't solve it, see if your system will boot anything from a
> > floppy (like dos).
> 
> There IS the correct boot order in the BIOS, the disks is read for a short
> time and then it goes over to the harddiscs.
> 
> And, yes, an old M$ DOS disks boots the system properly.
> 
> *sigh* I'm gonna try out Rawrite...
> 
Also, you'll want to make sure you are using the 1997-04-04 images.  The
1997-03-?? are broke.

I'd hate to see you get the boot going and then fail at a known point
later.

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Re: Install base system from frozen (bo)

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Andreas Tille wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I tried to install the install disks from frozen/disks-i368/1997-03-16.
> I made this disks as described in the docs by dd.
> 
That set is a known problem.  If you're using ftp.debian.org it's not up
to date.

On ftp.cdrom.com in the debian/frozen/disks-i386 there is no 1997-03-16
use the 1997-04-04.  They work for 3.5" disks but _not_ 5.25".  Sven
will get the 5.25" working disks uploaded soon.

Enjoy -- Greg.


Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Martin Schulze wrote:
> 
> Greg Vence writes:
> 
> > > ae is on board.
> > >
> > > > I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there
> > > > anymore? :-)
> > >
> > > We already faught the fight before - and lost.  ae won. :-(
> > > There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode.  This
> > > might be included in further releases.
> > >
> > I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the
> > initial mail.
> 
> Me too.  Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision
> I don't want to perform this fight a second time.  This was the decision
> and now we should al live with it until we find a better solution
> (which could mean finding a very small vi or reducing elvis to only
> support basic functions that makes it very small; or the above mentioned
> vi-macros)
> 
Agreed, I didn't realize that vi was a pig.  It might be nice to have
some notice on the install disks ie a script called vi that directs you
to ae.  This could be removed by the package containing vi.  Maybe I've
missed that _war_ too.

However, since I believe we should keep the 5.25" disks ae seems a
better choice.  Thanx to the previous decision makers.

> Apart from the fact that I need a vi, many new users won't ever use
> vi if they find it.  vi is a tool for freaks, hackers and gurus (therefore
> it's a very good editor for us...).  Beginners are very happy with ae
> because they can see which commands they can type.  It is really an
> easy editor.  Therefore it should be included in the base set. :-)
> 
Agreed, however Unix pro's tend to expect it as a minimal fall back. 
That's why I'd suggest that script for vi.

Less Suprising == Better User Acceptance

Thanx -- Greg.


Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Martin Schulze wrote:
> 
> Ken Gaugler writes:
> 
> > > What editors come on the base install?  Also, what is the input device
> > > for 'cp ' that uses the console for input?
> 
> ae is on board.
> 
> > I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there
> > anymore? :-)
> 
> We already faught the fight before - and lost.  ae won. :-(
> There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode.  This
> might be included in further releases.
> 
I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the
initial mail.

Thanx to all.  ae works well enough.  Also, 'cat > ' was what
I was looking for.  It's been a while since I've had the luxury of a
Unix environment.

Thanx again -- Greg.


Netcom connection

1997-04-10 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Below is the page netcom recommends for Linux setup.  I've tried this
off the base installation and don't even get the phone dialing.

I've got an Intel internal 14.4 modem

http://www1.netcom.com/bin/webtech/Other_Dialers_and_Operating_Systems/Operating_Systems/linux.cfg.html

Thanx -- Greg.


What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

I need to edit my ppp scripts.

What editors come on the base install?  Also, what is the input device
for 'cp ' that uses the console for input?

Thanx -- Greg.


Re: RAWRITE2 creates nothing

1997-03-20 Thread Greg Vence
Marisol Garcia Valls wrote:
> 
> Could anybody tell me why does "rawrite" creates no files on
> the floppy disks?  I use the command:
> 
> rawrite2 -f rsc1200r.bin -d a:
> |
> |
> It doesn't matter   |
> which file I puth e r e, it just builds no image files on
> the floppy in drive "a:".
> 
> Does anybody know what my problem might be?
> 
> Thanking all in advance,
> 
> Marisol

I've never been able to get rawrite2 to work with the paramenters.

What does work is running it interactively.  
First type rawrite2
Then it asks for file, type rsc1200r.bin
Finally, it asks for drive, type a
Now you should see it writing track/side info.

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Module vs Prago

1997-03-18 Thread Greg Vence
What are the pro's & con's of compiling into the kernal vs. loading a
module?

Where could I find docs on topic?

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Re: Please :-( GE2500 Network card

1997-03-14 Thread Greg Vence
Paulo Ramos wrote:
> 
> No anwser ultil now... I would like to know where e can get the
> driver for the network card GE2500.
> 
As I've seen Bruce respond before...

No answer == No one knows.


Re: Dos & Linux

1997-03-05 Thread Greg Vence
David Stein wrote:
> 
> How can I download .tar and .gz compressed files on a Dos system copy them 
> over
> to my linux system and uncompress them?  Is the uncompression built into unix?
> Also can I interlink my Linux and my Dos system? (my modem is on my Dos 
> system).

tar (Tape ARchive) and gzip/gunzip(GNU) are included on the base Debian
installation.

For connecting two systems, you have several chioces.
1)SLIP(Serial Null-modem)  See HOWTO for SLIP/PPP.
2)PLIP(Parallel Null-modem-equivalent) Rumored to be quicker.  Less
support.  See HOWTO for PLIP.
3)Network (I've seen a two NE200 card/cable/terminator kit for $80 for
ISA $90 for PCI)  See Network Administrator's Guide(NAG).

Enjoy -- Greg.


Re: xt?

1997-03-05 Thread Greg Vence
David Stein wrote:
> 
> Can debian Linux run on an xt? If not is there another linux that can run on 
> an
> xt? a http: link in the right direction would be appreciated.

The minimum Linux requirement is a 386.  If you have some kind of
upgrade chip/package to allow the XT to use a 386, then yes.  Else, no.

I believe one reason is its a 32-bit "PROTECTED" mode OS.  I don't
believe that the 286 chip has that feature available.

Debian is just an install tool for getting Linux and applications
installed and configured.  (Of course we'll all tell you its great.)

Enjoy -- Greg.


Re: 56k baud modem (x2)

1997-03-03 Thread Greg Vence
John Goerzen wrote:

  I don't know why not.  There is nothing different about the modem
  <->
  computer interface, AFAIK.

 On Mar 2, Gregory Vence wrote:

  > Is the 56kb USRupgrade compatible with linux?  I tired of 14.4. :)

I was just checking to make sure that the upgrade wasn't some Windoze
driver that made the modem work only for W95...


Re: Serious mis-perception of reality going on here.

1997-01-21 Thread Greg Vence
Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> On Jan 20, 12:34pm, Michael Stutz wrote:
> > Finally, a voice of reason. What made me try Debian in the first place was
> > its supposed commitment to free software and the free software community,
> > and now the talk has turned into something more like marketing the next
> > Microsoft product. Complete with brainstorming on how to destroy the
> > competition (Red Hat and Slackware). Can't Debian exist with its brothers
> > and sisters, or is this a fight to "win"?
> 
> This is absolutely nuts. Completely and totally insane. 100% divorced from
> reality. People, you are reading a whole lot more into this than you should.
> 
> Nobody ever said we're launching the next Microsoft product, or destroying the
> competition, or anything like that. What we did say was that we would come
> out with a CD, for which we would charge manufacturers $2, so that we could
> have something that looked like a product so that commercial users would have
> a chance of selling it to their own management for use in their own
> institutions. Institutions like schools and small businesses. And why are we
> doing this? Because users asked for a way to get Debian as something else than
> a part of a 6-CD set so that they could show a package with the word Debian
> on the cover to their management.
> 
Correct me if I'm wrong(like that wouldn't happen here).  But the $2
charge gives us control over the use of the term "Official Debian." 
This control is needed.  Witness the historical reason for a lack of 1.0
version.

This control then can give the assuance needed to the management types. 
Management doesn't want to dive into the "Bleeding Edge" of Linux and
this would ensure a 'tested' version with the Debian organization's
blessing.  Everything else appears as a work in progress.  As long as
its also available free on the net.  The $2 plus fluff is only the suit.
The full brains & brawn of Debian are still available to the public
without distribution charges.

I'm not currently on a consulting assignment where this is necessary but
some sites have gone with a commercial distribution and then wondered if
they should have used Linux at all.  Obviously, they were even more
skeptical about 'giving Debian a try.'

 -- Greg.


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Mailing List/News Group questions

1997-01-15 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

1)  I've found debian-users as linux.debian.user  Where are the other
mailing lists in usnet-land?

2)  Does posting work to create an email to the list?  Is the news-group
a 'read only' thing?

Thanx -- Greg.


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Re: Netscape 3.01

1997-01-11 Thread Greg Vence
Brian C. White wrote:
> 
> > Anyone have any comments on the stability of Netscape 3.01?  In
> > particular, I'm curious if it runs o.k. with the lastest libc, or do I
> > need to continue loading Netscape with the older malloc etc.
> 
> If you install it with the Debian package (in contrib), then it works
> just fine.
> 
Does anyone use CoolTalk from Netscape?

Thanx -- Greg.


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Re: Missing: resq1200.bin

1997-01-04 Thread Greg Vence
Sven Rudolph wrote:
> 
> Gregory Vence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Where can I find resq1200.bin ?  its not on ftp.debian.org.
> 
> I created a 1.2MB rescue disk, it is available from
> ftp://ftp.inf.tu-dresden.de/pub/people/sr1/debian-boot/
> 
> You have to create an additional root disk; the README says:
> -
> The file resq1200.bin contains a floppy image for a Debian rescue floppy.
> 
> Copy it to floppy (e.g. using rawrite).
> 
> In addition you need to create a root floppy in the same way . Use the
> root.bin file that can be found together with the 1.44MB rescue floppy on
> the Debian FTP server.
> 
> Boot the rescue floppy. Insert the root floppy when the kernel asks you for
> this.
> 

Thanks, I've seen several other posts requesting this.

Is this a feature that is being dropped or was it just a lag?

Again, Thanx -- Greg.


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rawrite2 & NT 3.51

1996-12-30 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Rawrite2 worked fine in making the disk. (No errors.)  I was able to
boot off the recue disk.  However, I didn't check all the disks as I
don't have a machine here at work that I'm able to install linux on.

Again, this was in 'interactive mode' using no command line paramenters.

Hope this helps -- Greg.


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Compatability & Phone

1996-12-27 Thread Greg Vence
Hello,

Can I use a Solaris 2.5 application?  I'm looking at TeleVox an Internet
Phone package.

What other phone packages have been used with Linux that have a Win32
available interface?

Is there a Debian package available?

Thanx -- Greg.


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