Re: Linux & AD mixted authentication issue

2020-04-27 Thread Jack Dangler



On 4/27/20 8:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Lu, 27 apr 20, 12:55:20, Brian wrote:

On Mon 27 Apr 2020 at 07:20:20 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 08:34:52AM -0400, Jack Dangler wrote:

Surprised you got to the page. I get -


  Forbidden

You are not allowed to access this!

when attempting to access the wiki at all.

The wiki admins have blocked certain IP address ranges, presumably
as an anti-spam or anti-DoS measure.  Unfortunately, this block is
extremely intrusive (you can't even read the wiki, let alone write
to it), seems to be done at the web server level, is not documented
anywhere, and affects real people just trying to read the wiki for help.

And since it's not documented anywhere, there's no indication of how
to request access (removal from the blacklist, or whatever it is).

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/FAQ

Not really useful for those who can't access the wiki at all.

Quote from the page above:

 Q: Access to wiki.debian.org is blocked with 403 Forbidden
 Please mail w...@debian.org with your IP address.

Kind regards,
Andrei
Yeah - unless you have dynamic IP addressing, in which case you'll be 
making that request daily... I'm not sure I know of anyone hiding out 
waiting to pounce on wikipedia...




Re: Linux & AD mixted authentication issue

2020-04-27 Thread Jack Dangler


On 4/27/20 8:23 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:55:20PM +0100, Brian wrote:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/FAQ

OK... I don't know how anyone is expected to find that page, but now
that I know it exists, I guess I can add it to the bot's factoids
in #debian, and then eventually knowledge of it will start to spread.

Thanks.




 Forbidden

You are not allowed to access this!



Re: Linux & AD mixted authentication issue

2020-04-25 Thread Jack Dangler


On 4/24/20 5:08 PM, Jean-Luc Chandezon wrote:


Hello,

I configure AD authentication (I followed 
https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingL ... eDirectory), and it works 
fine.


I added AD group to debian sudoers, no problem. @mydomain.ad is the 
default suffix for login. USers does not need to put this.


My issue:

Even locally I can not open session aymore, as root, or as local unix 
user. Is it possible?


Here are krb5.conf:

---

logging]

Default = FILE:/var/log/krb5.log

[libdefaults]

ticket_lifetime = 24000

click-skew = 300

default_realm = MYDOMAIN.AD

# The following krb5.conf variables are only for MIT Kerberos.

kdc_timesync = 1

ccache_type = 4

forwardable = true

proxiable = true

[realms]

MYDOMAIN.AD = {

kdc = mydomain.ad:88

admin_server = mydomain.ad:464

default_domain = mydomain.ad

}

[domain_realm]

.mydomain.ad = MYDOMAIN.AD

mydomain.ad = MYDOMAIN.AD

---

Thanks

Jean-Luc


Surprised you got to the page. I get -


 Forbidden

You are not allowed to access this!

when attempting to access the wiki at all.



Re: OT: Questions about (buying and) using a laptop docking station

2020-03-16 Thread Jack Dangler


On 3/16/20 9:50 AM, Andrii Borovyi wrote:
Once again I though about getting a dock station for my Dell Vostro 
3360. Seems like there is no easy solution there. The only thing I 
discovered is to switch to Latitude or XPS models (sorry, but no 
Inspiron nor Vostro) that have support for docking stations. 
Unfortunately, that's the only result of my research I came to. Maybe 
with newer DELL's the situation is easier, but it's hard to say for sure.


Kind regards,
Andrii

--- Оригінальне повідомлення ---
Від кого: rhkra...@gmail.com
Дата: 16 березня 2020, 14:42:50

Asking this OT question here because this is my go to list for questions,
especially ones for which I don't belong to a list that might be more 
specific
to this subject.

Background: I've installed Buster on an old laptop (my newest laptop, a Dell
Inspiron 1501) and I'm working on installing other software (gcc+, make, 
git,
Python and such) so that I can take the laptop to various meetings where I
hope to get help on some software I'm trying to write (in C/C++ and Python).

I'm thinking about buying a laptop docking station to make it easier to
disconnect the laptop to take it to meetings.

I don't know much about a laptop docking station except that the ones I've
looked at seem to need only a USB (C or A) cable to connect the laptop to 
the
docking station.  (I'm about 90% sure that the Inspiron1501  does not have a
USB-C port.)

(Aside: I need to get a docking station with a VGA output as I "run" the
laptop through a KVM switch and one of the computers connected to it has no
HDMI output, and the KVM switch itself has no HDMI input.)

I get the idea (or I am jumping to the conclusion?) that there is some
hardware in the docking station (like graphics and audio chips) which I'm
assuming would need to be supported by Buster.

Is that correct?

Any recommendations for a suitable docking station?

Take a look at the WAVLINK USB 3.0 Universal Docking Station (Rev 3). It 
has a disc for win drivers, but also has support for mac and linux. The 
linux drivers are community supplied, but do say that they are well 
supported. I'm considering this one for myself. At the moment, I'm 
setting up a win box for my gf using it, just to see how it behaves.If 
it works as advertised, I'll do a little more digging into the community 
drivers and then grab a second one and give it a go on one of my older 
laptops running Debian...


Re: Bulleye: How do I disable scrolling on touchpad...........

2020-01-07 Thread Jack Dangler



On 1/8/20 12:52 AM, Charlie wrote:

From my keyboard:

Hello Everyone,

Trying to stop all scrolling on my touchpad has me tricked; and
the mad scrolling is driving me nuts.

Debian Bullseye, FVWM, HP laptop,  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
installed.

VertTwoFingerScroll =0  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-synaptics.conf

Stopped the the xorg-xserver from bringing up a GUI at boot.



$ synclient -l


Parameter settings:
 LeftEdge= 142
 RightEdge   = 3411
 TopEdge = 80
 BottomEdge  = 1419
 FingerLow   = 1
 FingerHigh  = 1
 MaxTapTime  = 180
 MaxTapMove  = 169
 MaxDoubleTapTime= 180
 SingleTapTimeout= 180
 ClickTime   = 100
 EmulateMidButtonTime= 75
 EmulateTwoFingerMinZ= 282
 EmulateTwoFingerMinW= 7
 VertScrollDelta = 77
 HorizScrollDelta= 77
 VertEdgeScroll  = 0
 HorizEdgeScroll = 0
 CornerCoasting  = 0
 VertTwoFingerScroll = 1
 HorizTwoFingerScroll= 0
 MinSpeed= 1
 MaxSpeed= 1.75
 AccelFactor = 0.0518672
 TouchpadOff = 0
 LockedDrags = 0
 LockedDragTime RTCornerButton  = 0
 RBCornerButton  = 0
 LTCornerButton  = 0
 LBCornerButton  = 0
 TapButton1  = 0
 TapButton2  = 0
 TapButton3  = 0
 ClickFinger1= 1
 ClickFinger2= 1
 ClickFinger3= 1
 CircularScrolling   = 0
 CircScrollDelta = 0.1
 CircScrollTrigger   = 0
 CircularPad = 0
 PalmDetect  = 0
 PalmMinWidth= 10
 PalmMinZ= 200
 CoastingSpeed   = 20
 CoastingFriction= 50
 PressureMotionMinZ  = 30
 PressureMotionMaxZ  = 160
 PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
 PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
 GrabEventDevice = 0
 TapAndDragGesture   = 1
 AreaLeftEdge= 0
 AreaRightEdge   = 0
 AreaTopEdge = 0
 AreaBottomEdge  = 0
 HorizHysteresis = 19
 VertHysteresis  = 19
 ClickPad= 0


Any help please.

Charlie

East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc..
   http://www.egwildlife.com.au/


Set this in a bash script and run it -

#!/bin/bash

xinput --disable 12



Where is the problem: Tape Drive? Cartridge(s)? Cable? SAS Controller?

2020-01-02 Thread Jack G F Hill
I've been trying to diagnose and resolve this since November, and am 
still having trouble figuring out what is happening... Debian 10 doesn't 
present any real easy way to decode and find details about the 
hexadecimal error messages.


I know this is kinda "old-school", but I'm backing up partition images 
to LTO-5 tape cartridges, and so far, the tape backup initially worked, 
but recently has eventually errored on each cartridge used in the backup 
attempts.


For the moment, I am willing to accept that the tar command is NOT the 
culprit.


It could be the SAS Controller software, or the "mt" package which 
manages the tape drive, but given that it has worked several times and 
has continued to work, even as individual backups have failed, I am not 
convinced that the issue is with controller or driver software.


All this leads to the hardware question, "What is failing": Tape Drive? 
Cartridge(s)? Cable? SAS Controller?


Rather than just blindly substitute parts (expensive, time consuming, 
frustratingly inconclusive) and try to eliminate that way, I'd really 
like to have a better roadmap for locating the issue. A new SAS 
Controller, or the Cable connecting the Controller to the Drive, or new 
Cartridges are not so expensive as to be non-starters, but I'm retired 
with limited income, and a new LTO drive would be a real stretch.


Here are three minutes of error notes from my last attempt in 
kern.log/syslog:


Nov 13 08:02:29 BigMutt kernel: [34669.493781] st 0:0:0:0: device_block, 
handle(0x0009)
Nov 13 08:02:29 BigMutt kernel: [34669.493879] st 0:0:0:0: [st0] Error 
e (driver bt 0x0, host bt 0xe).
Nov 13 08:02:31 BigMutt kernel: [34671.743620] st 0:0:0:0: 
device_unblock and setting to running, handle(0x0009)
Nov 13 08:02:31 BigMutt kernel: [34671.743714] st 0:0:0:0: [st0] Error 
1 (driver bt 0x0, host bt 0x1).
Nov 13 08:02:31 BigMutt kernel: [34671.744077] st 0:0:0:0: [st0] Error 
1 (driver bt 0x0, host bt 0x1).
Nov 13 08:02:31 BigMutt kernel: [34671.745089] mpt2sas_cm0: removing 
handle(0x0009), sas_addr(0x500110a001622ed0)
Nov 13 08:02:31 BigMutt kernel: [34671.745091] mpt2sas_cm0: enclosure 
logical id(0x500605b00341cef0), slot(0)
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.006914] scsi 0:0:1:0: 
Sequential-Access HP   Ultrium 5-SCSI   Z6ED PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.006922] scsi 0:0:1:0: SSP: 
handle(0x0009), sas_addr(0x500110a001622ed0), phy(3), 
device_name(0x500110a001622ed2)
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.006924] scsi 0:0:1:0: enclosure 
logical id (0x500605b00341cef0), slot(0)

Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.008694] scsi 0:0:1:0: TLR Enabled
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.011053] st 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi 
tape st0
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.011056] st 0:0:1:0: st0: try 
direct i/o: yes (alignment 4 B)
Nov 13 08:02:36 BigMutt kernel: [34676.011143] st 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi 
generic sg2 type 1
Nov 13 08:05:24 BigMutt kernel: [34844.612941] st 0:0:1:0: [st0] Block 
limits 1 - 16777215 bytes.


So, is the culprit the LTO-5 drive? Cartridge? possibly the I/O signal 
cable? the SAS Controller? What do I need to do to determine the true 
cause of the errors with /dev/st0?


Hardware System Configuration:
4.19.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.67-2+deb10u2 (2019-11-11)
MB: Gigabyte 970A-D3P
CPU: AMD FX-8350 @4000.000 MHz cache: 2048 KB
RAM: 32GB (4x8GB) Unbuffered/Unregistered
LTO-5 SAS Tape on LSI SAS9211 controller
Video: GeForce 8400 GS to VIZIO E320VA



Re: audio recorder

2019-09-21 Thread Jack Dangler

On 9/21/19 10:36 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Jack Dangler wrote:

On 9/20/19 9:58 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Jack Dangler wrote:

Wanted a utility for snipping youtube clips, recording skype, etc. and
someone suggested 'audio recorder' to me. I found some information for it
here - 
https://mintguide.org/audio/267-audio-recorder-capture-and-record-audio-from-any-device-on-linux-mint.html
.

Adding the repo for the tool results in -

~ $ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:osmoma/audio-recorder
'This PPA does not support xenial'
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support xenial''.

Is there another tool for this purpose or is there a way to make this one
work?

If you're running xenial, then you're running Ubuntu, not
Debian.

If you're running mint, you're running mint, not Debian.

If you were generally asking for advice about recording audio,
I would recommend audacity, youtube-dl, and a thorough
understanding of either jack or pulseaudio or both.

-dsr-


And therein lies the rub. I'm _not_ running Ubuntu, which is why I was
surprised to see the "does not support xenial" message...

... what are you running? So far we have a message on the
debian-users list that mentions Mint and Xenial.

-dsr-


1 Mint

1 Debian

1 Ubuntu

1 Gentoo



Re: audio recorder

2019-09-21 Thread Jack Dangler



On 9/20/19 9:58 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

Jack Dangler wrote:

Wanted a utility for snipping youtube clips, recording skype, etc. and
someone suggested 'audio recorder' to me. I found some information for it
here - 
https://mintguide.org/audio/267-audio-recorder-capture-and-record-audio-from-any-device-on-linux-mint.html
.

Adding the repo for the tool results in -

~ $ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:osmoma/audio-recorder
'This PPA does not support xenial'
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support xenial''.

Is there another tool for this purpose or is there a way to make this one
work?

If you're running xenial, then you're running Ubuntu, not
Debian.

If you're running mint, you're running mint, not Debian.

If you were generally asking for advice about recording audio,
I would recommend audacity, youtube-dl, and a thorough
understanding of either jack or pulseaudio or both.

-dsr-

And therein lies the rub. I'm _not_ running Ubuntu, which is why I was 
surprised to see the "does not support xenial" message...


I've tried jack in the past with mixed results (always got the 
impression that this package was sort of like the big box of christmas 
lights in the attic). Pulse has been around longer, so maybe there's 
something to that suggestion. Thanks for the input.




audio recorder

2019-09-20 Thread Jack Dangler
Wanted a utility for snipping youtube clips, recording skype, etc. and 
someone suggested 'audio recorder' to me. I found some information for 
it here - 
https://mintguide.org/audio/267-audio-recorder-capture-and-record-audio-from-any-device-on-linux-mint.html 
.


Adding the repo for the tool results in -

~ $ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:osmoma/audio-recorder
'This PPA does not support xenial'
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support xenial''.

Is there another tool for this purpose or is there a way to make this 
one work?


Any help is greatly appreciated.



Re: OT Calibre

2019-04-22 Thread Jack Dangler



On 4/22/19 5:10 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 09:01:40PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:

On 22/04/2019 20:58, Andrea Borgia wrote:

Il 22/04/19 21:51, Bob Bernstein ha scritto:

Where is the 'Quit' or 'Exit' button in Calibre's gui?

It seems there's no specific quit button but I can close it without
problems by clicking the "X" button at the top right corner of the
window (using xfce4).


Hmm,  from a UX / UI viewpoint won't new users expect a close / quit
button or menu option,  ?


I don't think so.  I just started using it a few months ago and I
actually never noticed the absence of close/quit menu options and/or
buttons until reading this thread.  I find that the toolbar layout works
really well, and naturally supports clicking the "X" in the top of the
window border to close/quit.

Regards,

-Roberto

And there's the other kill switch... kill -KILL ... that should make it 
quit.




Re: unicornscan [resolved]

2018-10-04 Thread Jack Dangler




On 10/04/2018 02:57 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 01:06:11PM -0400, Jack Dangler wrote:

Curious if anyone has installed this package from sourceforge. I got
it to run some udp tests and it will configure but make install fails.
Just wondering if anyone else on the list has used it or run into an
issue like this. Thanks.

Used? No. I don't even want to know what kind of function a program
linked with both libpg and libpcap should have.

Built? That was somewhat tricky, but doable.

Assuming current stretch, and amd64 arch,

apt install libpq-dev libdnet-dev libltdl-dev libpcap-dev

patch -p1 -i inline-is-wrong.diff

CFLAGS='-O2 -g -pipe -D_GNU_SOURCE' ./configure

make

Reco
The patch blew chunk when it ran, but I was able to massage the .c file 
and rebuild. This solved the original and subsequent errors. Thank you 
very much for the help!!




unicornscan

2018-10-04 Thread Jack Dangler
Curious if anyone has installed this package from sourceforge. I got it 
to run some udp tests and it will configure but make install fails. Just 
wondering if anyone else on the list has used it or run into an issue 
like this. Thanks.




Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Jack Dangler




On 09/25/2018 06:28 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:08:54PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

mick crane wrote:

have a look in /usr/bin  ?

Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin :
   https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard

/bin is specified to hold "essential" programs.
/sbin is its add-on for system administrators.
/usr/bin + /usr/sbin together hold nearly 4000 files on my system.


Thakur Mahashaya wrote:

no trick to be honest

But are you aware that "standard utility" can be the start of a nice
dispute among the regulars of a computer users' mailing list ?
(Let's see what happens. No real persons or animals will be hurt.)

$ aptitude search '?priority(required)'

will get you a list of the packages installed that absolutely
have to be installed.

Remember the discussion about why Debian doesn't have a default
firewall policy, because everyone needs something different?

Same thing applies here: this is the minimal core that gets you
a working system. Two things should pop out immediately:

1. Some packages have alternatives, where any of the
alternatives will work but you do have to have one of them.

2. There's no boot loader. A boot loader is optional because it
might be supplied by an outside system, like a VM hypervisor.

-dsr-


This is helpful to have! It doesn't quite answer the mail since it lists 
packages of utilities (and not individual utilities themselves as in the 
OPs request), but you could dissect those packages further to find out 
what is in them...




Re: utilities

2018-09-25 Thread Jack Dangler




On 09/25/2018 06:17 AM, Brian wrote:

On Tue 25 Sep 2018 at 12:08:54 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:


Hi,

mick crane wrote:

have a look in /usr/bin  ?

Not to forget /bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin :
   https://wiki.debian.org/FilesystemHierarchyStandard

/bin is specified to hold "essential" programs.
/sbin is its add-on for system administrators.
/usr/bin + /usr/sbin together hold nearly 4000 files on my system.


Thakur Mahashaya wrote:

no trick to be honest

But are you aware that "standard utility" can be the start of a nice
dispute among the regulars of a computer users' mailing list ?
(Let's see what happens. No real persons or animals will be hurt.)

There can be no dispute over the meaning of "standard system
utilities". These are the ones which have a "Priority: standard"
field in the package description.

On my stretch:

   grep -B 1 "Priority: standard" /var/lib/dpkg/available

odd but that grep doesn't produce anything on my laptop. the file is a 
single UTF8 file...




wfuzz install

2018-09-14 Thread Jack Dangler
Tried installing wfuzz this morning. Using either method (git clone or 
pip install) I'm getting this -


"Command python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1 in 
/tmp/pip-install-nUZqL0/pycurl/


The two methods for install are -

git clone github.com/xmenez/wfuzz && pip install pycurl

pip install wfuzz

Whether using git clone and then pip install pycurl, or using pip 
install wfuzz I come to the same message. Is this related to pycurl or 
is it something localized to pycurl (or am I doing something out of 
sync). Just checking to see if others have encountered the same 
situation. Thanks.




Re: Is there a log file of ...?

2018-09-08 Thread Jack Dangler




On 09/08/2018 11:55 AM, Michael Wagner wrote:

On Sep 08, 2018 at 15:29:44, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

And while we're at it, CTRL-R and start typing a substring of
the past command you're looking for: the more letters you have,
the more specific the match becomes (also called "reverse
incremental search").

Takes a bit to get used to, but is... magic.

I'm surprised it is so little known.

This is one of the first things I set when installing a new Debian.
But you must set it explicitly in /etc/inputrc systemwide or in your
~/.inputrc. I don't how this behaviour is in other distris.

Just my 2¢
Michael


It is set on default in Mint...



Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Jack Dangler


On 01/12/2018 10:00 AM, bw wrote:


On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Vincent Lefevre wrote:


According to answers on

   
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/176624/how-do-i-check-if-kpti-is-enabled-on-linux/176654

linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 is still vulnerable as shown
below:

# dmesg | grep -i isolation

You should get either

[0.00] Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled
or
[0.00] Kernel/User page tables isolation: disabled

Search with dmesg | less it's about two pages down for me,

$ uname -a
Linux debian 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04)
x86_64 GNU/Linux



I tried this on my Ubu workstation and didnt get anything back...
$ dmesg | grep -i isolation
$
$ uname -a
Linux 4.10.0-40-generic #44~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 9 15:37:44 UTC 
2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux




Re: “Meltdown” and “Spectre”: Every modern processor has unfixable security flaws

2018-01-05 Thread Jack Dangler



On 01/04/2018 12:55 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 2018-01-04 at 12:30, Michael Fothergill wrote:


On 4 January 2018 at 17:22, Curt  wrote:


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/meltdown-and-spectre-every-modern-
processor-has-unfixable-security-fladdws/U


TL;DR

  Windows, Linux, and macOS have all received security patches that
  significantly alter how the operating systems handle virtual memory in
  order to protect against a hitherto undisclosed flaw.
...
  In the immediate term, it looks like most systems will shortly have
  patches for Meltdown. At least for Linux and Windows, these patches
  allow end-users to opt out if they would prefer. The most vulnerable
  users are probably cloud service providers; Meltdown and Spectre can
  both in principle be used to further attacks against hypervisors,
  making it easier for malicious users to break out of their virtual
  machines.
...
  For typical desktop users, the risk is arguably less significant. While
  both Meltdown and Spectre can have value in expanding the scope of an
  existing flaw, neither one is sufficient on its own to, for example,
  break out of a Web browser.

Apparent moral of story for CPU: don't speculate (but it's significantly
*slower*).

​Isn't this mainly an Intel problem?  I use AMD chipsets.  I would go for
Ryzen nowadays anyway.

Meltdown so far is not known to affect anything other than Intel.

Spectre, however, is confirmed to affect AMD CPUs - and Ryzen CPUs are
specifically stated to be affected.

Did this also affect Motorola chipsets? I know they haven't been popular 
in a while, but I believe they are still in use (i.e. 68000)




Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-20 Thread Jack Dangler



On 12/19/2017 03:31 PM, Tom Dial wrote:


On 12/19/2017 06:06 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 06:10:28PM -0800, Mike McClain wrote:

I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week.
I can login, I get the banner in color , it says getting your info.

Which browser?


...


...


Oh, you're one of those people who hides details in the Subject.  "FF"
meaning Firefox?  Upstream Firefox Quantum?  One of the firefox-esr
packages in Debian?  Iceweasel?  Which release of Debian?  Which Firefox
family package version?  What does it say in "About Firefox"?


As soon they come back with and display my balance all the text turnes
to grey and a twiddler pops up and it stays like that forever.
 NFCU's tech support will not admit to knowing who's waiting for
what just we don't support Linux.

Well-known and frequent response type from customer support staff
operating based on a script. I've been a Navy Federal customer for
around 40 years and found their customer support for banking operations
to be quite good. I've used their online banking application since it
became available, along with their online bill paying when it became
available.

Sounds like either an advertisement or some kind of applet.

They have applets for iPhone and Android, but not for PCs.

 Suggestions on how to fix this or how to approach it are most
welcome.

1) Try Google Chrome.
1a) Try Chromium.
1b) Try upstream Firefox Quantum if you're using a package; try the
 packaged firefox-esr if you're using upstream.

Their web application has worked for numerous versions of Google Chrome,
Chromium, and Firefox, on Debian Linux, for years. I have used it,
today, with the following:

Chromium: Version 63.0.3239.84 (Developer Build) built on Debian 9.3,
running on Debian 9.3 (64-bit) [chromium 63.0.3239.84-1~deb9u1]

Firefox: 52.5.2 (64 bit) [firefox-esr 52.5.2esr-1~deb9u1]

2) Try installing Java (with Firefox applet support).\

This may be necessary.

2a) Try installing Flash (with Firefox plugin support).

As far as I know, I do not have flash available; neither browser has any
hints of it.

3) Try disabling any ad blocker type things you're using.

Adblock Plus is not a problem nor, I suspect, is absence of an ad
blocker (3b).

3b) Try adding an ad blocker type thing.

4) Try borrowing a Microsoft Windows machine.

This is unnecessary.

5) Try a different bank.

NFCU, by the last report I saw, is the largest credit union. In the
world. It probably did not happen because of sloppiness in either
operations or customer support.

The general rule of thumb in Internet life: the more important a web site
is, the more atrociously, horribly, indefensibly BAD it is.  Governments,
banks, hospitals -- all use the WORST possible web technology you've
never even heard of.  Always.  Every fucking time.

Count on it to work only in one specific (deprecated) version of MSIE
on one specific (past end of life) release of Windows.  When the stars
align correctly.

In my experience, this is not the case for navyfederal.org.
A careful look at exactly what the firewall mentioned in the initial
post might reveal something, especially as the presenting symptom
appears to be a hang, maybe waiting for something blocked.

Regards,
Tom Dial



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Re: Debian, FF & NavyFed

2017-12-19 Thread Jack Dangler



On 12/19/2017 02:05 PM, Matthew Crews wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Debian, FF & NavyFed
Local Time: December 18, 2017 7:10 PM
UTC Time: December 19, 2017 2:10 AM
From: mike.junk...@att.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

I signed up with Navy Federal Credit Union online banking last week.
I can login, I get the banner in color , it says getting your info.
As soon they come back with and display my balance all the text turnes
to grey and a twiddler pops up and it stays like that forever.
NFCU's tech support will not admit to knowing who's waiting for
what just we don't support Linux.
Suggestions on how to fix this or how to approach it are most
welcome.

My first suggestion is to get a new bank. If they can't be bothered to help 
you, you shouldn't be bothered to be their customer. Make sure you tell them 
that poor customer service is the reason why.


Oh, Yeah,
Linux playground 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.89-2 i686 GNU/Linux
I know Wheezy is old but it's old hardware, PIII, 250M memory, my
video card hasn't been supported in years. Does what I want most times.
FF ESR 52.3.0 (32 bit)

My second suggestion is upgrade your machine. 250M memory is NOT enough to 
browse the modern web, even with FF ESR 52.3. You need a minimum of 1GB ram to 
comfortably use the modern web, preferably 2GB or more.

My third suggestion is try different web browsers. Chromium (or Google Chrome) 
should just work out-of-the-box even if FF does not. As others have suggested, 
you could also try upstream FF 57. You may need to install some working version 
of Java or (shudder) Flash, even though Flash is EOL.

My 2cp.

-Matt


FF version won't likely help. I also have accounts there and have the 
same complaint. I have 2 debian, 1 mint, and 1 Ubuntu box all running 
differing flavors of FF and Chrome. So far, they all do it. The only 
browser I've seen work with it is IE or Edge. Producing web sites for a 
particular OS/Browser is so archaic it isn't even professional. This 
"institution" has a number of quirks about it, and this is just one of 
them. If you really want to waste an afternoon, try calling them and 
explaining the technology gap to them...




Re: vbox installation

2017-12-15 Thread Jack Dangler



On 12/14/2017 12:53 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 14/12/17 13:57, Jack Dangler wrote:

All

Just letting you know that virtualbox on a linux host stops at 5.0.4 for
the moment if you intend to install the extension pack. I installed 5.2
this morning on a new deb box i built and when i installed the ext pack,
5.2 was removed from the system and replaced with 5.0.40.

Regards



Just for information. Vbox 5.2.2 is running fine under stretch with full
USB support. Pity I can't say the same about a Win 10 VM that has been
updating itself for the past hour - without any progress information.

Peter HB


Thanks for the update, Peter. I may try again in the future, but with 
work backing up, I installed a fresh deb kernel and installed/configured 
a short list of tools I need to get work done. It's actually much easier 
than i expected it to be. Updates might be a bit interesting, but I'll 
work it out. Merry Christmas!




Re: vbox installation

2017-12-14 Thread Jack Dangler



On 12/14/2017 09:03 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
I use Virtualbox 5.1.8 with the extension pack without issue on Debian 
Jessie.

Wondering why it would not have regressed to 5.1 ...
I only built this one because I could not get USB or shared files 
working between my Deb host and a rolling kali guest. I need both since 
this is an internal lab setup...




vbox installation

2017-12-14 Thread Jack Dangler

All

Just letting you know that virtualbox on a linux host stops at 5.0.4 for 
the moment if you intend to install the extension pack. I installed 5.2 
this morning on a new deb box i built and when i installed the ext pack, 
5.2 was removed from the system and replaced with 5.0.40.


Regards



simple-cdd: Install extra files onto target

2017-11-30 Thread Jack Henschel
Hi everyone,

I have configured a debian installer with simple-cdd for my systems, and 
additional packages are already being installed.
But I'm struggeling to install extra files on the target systems.

I am referrencing the extra files in `profile/default.extra` and they are in 
the generated ISO image (under /simple-cdd, alongside all the profile files).

However, I can't seem to copy these file(s) onto my newly installed host. I 
tried a `cp` in the postinst-script, but I have no idea where the files on the 
CD are during the installation.

Any hints on how to get this working?

(I'm using simple-cdd 0.6.5)

Greetings
Jack



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Re: dd to clone a drive

2017-09-29 Thread Jack Dangler



On 09/26/2017 11:35 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Tuesday 26 September 2017 09:57:57 Jack Dangler wrote:


I have an existing drive near EOL (judging from the sounds). I got a
replacement drive for it (same size).

I plugged the replacement into a USB port and started a byte-for-byte
copy with

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc

The process ran quietly for almost 30 hours with no discernable
results so i killed it. Apparently, it had been running the whole time
and resulted in approximately 300 of 500Gb copied. Is it 'usual' to
have dd take upwards of 2 days to copy a drive ?

The source drive is a 500G 5400rpm WD, and the target is a 500G
7200rpm WD black.

Thanks for any input.


I think when no bs size is specified, it does a sector copy and likely
verifies it. In writing sd cards in a usb reader/writer here, dd's
execution time can be cut to maybe 5 minutes for a 2GB image by the use
of the "bs=4096" option in the above command line.  That should mean
your 500GB copy operation would take about 20 hours, probably much less
since the hd can write faster than my sd cards can on a sustained basis
like 500GB.


Regards

Jack


Cheers, Gene Heskett
Thanks to Roberto Sanchez, Michael Stone, Thomas Schmitt, Pascal 
Hambourg, Michael Stone, and Gene Haskett for the great input! A little 
more reading and a little experimentation, and I've got this working 
well. Changed the process so that each partition was separately cloned, 
but also changed block sizes and made sure that both source and target 
were unmounted. The partitions took far less time than the original, and 
the verification was successful on all. I even cloned my entire 
installation and booted from it to make sure that it, too, would 
function. Thanks again for all the invaluable help!




dd to clone a drive

2017-09-26 Thread Jack Dangler
I have an existing drive near EOL (judging from the sounds). I got a 
replacement drive for it (same size).


I plugged the replacement into a USB port and started a byte-for-byte 
copy with


dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc

The process ran quietly for almost 30 hours with no discernable results 
so i killed it. Apparently, it had been running the whole time and 
resulted in approximately 300 of 500Gb copied. Is it 'usual' to have dd 
take upwards of 2 days to copy a drive ?


The source drive is a 500G 5400rpm WD, and the target is a 500G 7200rpm 
WD black.


Thanks for any input.

Regards

Jack



Re: Shudown And Restart Issue

2016-10-18 Thread Jack Warkentin

Hi Aravind

I am having a similar problem, if not the identical one. I believe it is 
a systemd issue.


Here is a workaround that works for me.

1. Close all GUI windows and log out of the GUI.

2. Press Ctrl/Alt/F1 to obtain a console window.

3. Log in as root and shut down to single user mode using the command

shutdown now

At the message saying that you need to issue the root password in order 
to do system maintenance, issue the root password.


4. Shutdown the computer completely by issuing

shutdown -h now

I hope this helps.

Regards

Jack

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We Are Very Much Or Purely New To Debain And We Install Debian Jessie
8.6 In The Dell Inspiron i3551 And We Use Gnome GUI And While We Try To
Shutdown The Computer It Dont Shutdown Properly And When We Try To
Restart The Cmputer It Will Shutdown The System And We Didn't Know How
To Solve The Problem And We Google It About The Issue We Didn't Find The
Proper Answer For The Issue And We Are Requested The Team To Help Us To
Resolve Problem.

We Are Looking Forward From You.

Thanks You

Best Regards
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Fwd: Jessie - Gnome Applications menu stops working

2015-11-21 Thread Jack Dodds

I am having trouble with the Gnome Applications menu.

The problem is not present at boot-up.  It appears for no apparent
reason, sometimes weeks after bootup.

I click on "Applications" in the tool bar at the top of the screen.

The drop-down list of applications appears.

I hover over any of the categories, then move right to click on an
application.

When I do that, the application DOES NOT launch.

However, if I go to Activities Overview in the Applications menu, then
click on one of the icons in the overview, or search for it using the
"Type to Search" bar, the application launches normally.

This problem occurs both in "Gnome" mode and in "Gnome Classic" mode.

My system has two seats, implemented with two video cards.  One of the
seats is set up with three virtual terminals.  When the problem occurs
it appears to affect all virtual terminals.

I am using lightdm instead of the Gnome display manager because I have
never been able make the two-seat configuration work with the Gnome
display manager (this goes back at least as far as Woody).

If I log out of all virtual terminals, then do /etc/init.d/lightdm
restart, then log in again, the problem is still present.

Rebooting makes the problem go away.  Reminds me of Windows.  Gross.

It almost looks as if a lock file somewhere is not being properly deleted.

Jack



















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Re: Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Dangler
On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 07:23 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 08:00:59 -0600
> John Hasler  wrote:
> 
> >Jack Dangler wrote:
> >> The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
> >> jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).  
> >
> >Unstable has 38.3.  Works fine.
> 
> The stable release of Firefox is Version 41.0.2, released Oct 15.
> Doesn't that make 38 old?
> 
> 
I added unstable main to my apt sources as - 
'deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main'

apt-get update ran fine.

On asking to install the unastable iceweasel as - 
apt-get -t unstable install iceweasel

I get quite a large list of packages but did not notice iceweasel among
them.

Is there something I missed or should I allow the long list of packages
to install? (the list isn't here as it is fairly large but I can supply
it. Again, thanks for the input.

Regards

Jack



Iceweasel updates

2015-11-02 Thread Jack Dangler
Got a msg this morning from online bank service that my browser
(iceweasel) is no longer up to date (equates to ff31) and wants to
'either update your browser to a compatible version or install one of
the following - [list of usual suspects].
The next version of iceweasel i found in deb packages is 41 (quite a
jump), but says it is likely buggy (i'm guessing its in experimental).
Has anyone installed this version and had significant issues with it?
I'm stuck for online banking without it unless i install ff or chrome
which I'd rather not do at this point. Thanks for any input/advice.

Jack



prevent debian from sleeping

2015-06-16 Thread Jack Dangler
Hi, all - 
Just noticed that my deb sessions are going to sleep. I setup
my .xinitrc file to prevent it using xset, but no joy.

The .xinitrc contains the following - 
xset s off  # don't activate screensaver
xset -dpms  # disable DPMS (energy star) features
xset s noblank  # don't blank the video device

exec /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager # start lxde

after adding the information here, i rebooted the system, but no change
in the behavior. Any suggestions about how I can eliminate this behavior
when it is not wanted (i.e. i'm watching a long video on youtube, or
attending an online class, etc.).


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Which way do you think is the best for Debian users to bypass GFW?

2015-02-16 Thread Jack Chuge
I'm living in Mainland, China, it's not my fault. The most important 
thing for ever since installing a new system for me must be finding out 
the way to bypass the Great Fire Wall. It's not a joke. It's so boring 
remaining inside the wall. People will not give up searching for the 
entry to the whole real world.


On my desktop, also a Debian system, I've installed a pptp client and 
set up a VPN connection to Taiwan, I can see a new McDonald world, lol,


Unfortunately, I've damning forgotten the method. Though I know it's 
really an easy thing. But I've never become a newbie since ever, lol. 
Nonsense from my heart.


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Re: about boot manager

2015-02-16 Thread Jack Chuge

Darac Marjal 於 2015-2-16 17:50 寫道:

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 08:10:57AM +0800, Jack Chuge wrote:

If neither GRUB nor LILO installed along a core Debian system into a virtual
machine, how does it start from booting? I've only seen a prompt cursor
displaying still there the black screen.


It depends on the virtual machine. If your virtual machine is
virtualising a full PC, then it will provide a virtual BIOS which will
expect to hand over control to a boot loader.

Some VMs, though, allow you to boot directly to a kernel. That is,
because they have the luxury of running on a full host machine, there's
space for all the logic necessary to find and set up a kernel.
Basically, the boot loader is built into the VM. You simply tell the VM
"boot from /boot/vmlinuz-3.14.2" and you skip a stage.

Further, there are "containerisation" types of virtualisation. In these,
the guest "machine" doesn't have a kernel at all. The host machine's
kernel runs everything and the guest machine's processes are just
another subset of the host processes. LXC uses this sort of
virtualisation. In these sort, you don't boot the machine at all, you
just start processes.


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I must have made some mistakes. Finally, I've successfully installed a 
debian into my VM. I thought it may be interrupted by a fault mirror 
site or an unstable internet connection.


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about boot manager

2015-02-15 Thread Jack Chuge
If neither GRUB nor LILO installed along a core Debian system into a 
virtual machine, how does it start from booting? I've only seen a prompt 
cursor displaying still there the black screen.

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Re: What's going wrong?

2015-02-15 Thread Jack Chuge

Jack Chuge 於 2015-2-15 10:20 寫道:

Hi, there!

I've installed Java 1.8 successfully thanks to Mr.Hector's support.
Afterward, I've come to install CGoban. But a warning prompts that the
application blocked for security. Is it controlled by the Java Control
Panel and caused by a wrong setting? Thank you.


I've solved it with cgoban.jar

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What's going wrong?

2015-02-14 Thread Jack Chuge

Hi, there!

I've installed Java 1.8 successfully thanks to Mr.Hector's support. 
Afterward, I've come to install CGoban. But a warning prompts that the 
application blocked for security. Is it controlled by the Java Control 
Panel and caused by a wrong setting? Thank you.

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Re: about installing Java

2015-02-14 Thread Jack Chuge

Richard Hector 於 2015-2-13 20:40 寫道:

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On 13/02/15 16:54, Jack Chuge wrote:


They say to run the following:  su - echo "deb
http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty main" |
tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list





It seems it's not allowed sudo instead of su for calling root
permission. Sadly, I've not setup a su password. How to fix it?
Thank you.


Finally, I typed sudo before the code every time and it proceeded
successfully until the last line code proceeding. It said: Can't
locate the packages of oracla-java8-installer. Where occurs
errors?


Hi Jack,

2 things spring to mind.

Firstly, I would get a root shell using "sudo -s" instead of "su -" -
that should work with your sudo config, and doesn't need a root password.

Alternatively, when you used this line:
echo "deb ..." | tee /etc/apt/...java.list

did you put sudo in front of tee as well? Like this:
sudo echo "deb ..." | sudo tee /etc/apt/...java.list

Otherwise, I think tee won't run as root, and therefore won't be able
to write to the file. That might be why it couldn't find the packages.

I think I'd use the first option - get a root shell.

Richard


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Re: about installing Java

2015-02-13 Thread Jack Chuge
Liam O'Toole 於 2015-2-13 19:40 寫道:
> On 2015-02-13, Jack Chuge  wrote:
> [SNIP}
> 
>> I know it means nothing to me until I want to install CGoban, a go
>> client been maintaining by kgs(www.gokgs.com). And I found my debian
>> pre-installed a java version of 1.6.0, seems odd for ever.
> 
> kgs appears to be a Java applet. To run it install icedtea-7-plugin.
> That will pull in openjdk-7-jre. You will need to restart your browser.
> 
> Be careful when running Java applets. It's a good idea to set them to
> 'click to play' in firefox (assuming you use firefox).
> 
> You can uninstall openjdk-6-jre, unless you need it for specific legacy
> applications. It's very old now.
> 


CGoban is a .jnlp format binary, they call it web start program.

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Re: about installing Java

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Chuge

Jack Chuge 於 2015-2-13 11:40 寫道:

Chris Fisichella 於 2015-2-13 9:50 寫道:

Quoting Jack Chuge :


I want to install the latest version of Java on my debian desktop. Is
there any quick way like using a terminal command? Though, I think
debian is the most stable Linux distro I've ever used so far, on the
other hand, I'm a newby to it. Any support is appreciated.
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Hi Jack,

This is hardly a let-me-google-this-for-you question. But, I did a
little googling and arrived at this website which is what I would use if
I wanted the latest Java on my machine:

http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html


They say to run the following:

su -
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty main"
| tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys
EEA14886
apt-get update
apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
exit



I hope you have root access to your machine. The instructions imply its
use.

HTH,
Chris



It seems it's not allowed sudo instead of su for calling root
permission. Sadly, I've not setup a su password. How to fix it? Thank you.

Finally, I typed sudo before the code every time and it proceeded 
successfully until the last line code proceeding. It said: Can't locate 
the packages of oracla-java8-installer. Where occurs errors?


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Re: about installing Java

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Chuge

Cindy-Sue Causey 於 2015-2-13 11:20 寫道:

On 2/12/15, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:

On 2/12/15, Chris Fisichella  wrote:


http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html

They say to run the following:

su -
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty
main" | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys
EEA14886
apt-get update
apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
exit




Don't do anything for a few minutes if you haven't already. Trusty
*sounds like* Ubuntu. If you're using Ubuntu then cool, personal
*_CHOICE_* and you're good to go, but If you're using Debian from
Debian.org, you start mixing things in together. It's both the name
"Trusty" and that... ppa thing that is throwing up the flags for me.

I'm going to try to *quickly* look this up. If someone else sees this
before I get back, maybe they could confirm or diss me on it that I'm
well meaning but on the wrong track. :))

What I'm looking at is to take Chris' find and just replace it with a
Debian repository.. :)



Now in hindsight, one logical question to ask is.. what do you need
your java to do? Just for surfing and for developing or...? That kind
of thing...

Now to what I found... Definitely out of my element here, but some
things are seeming familiar. There's the whole doing Debian and only
Debian if possible *IF* that is your style. For that, I've seen
references to openjdk-*-* packages. The reason I can tell you that
with confidence is because I just tried:

$ apt-cache search java

and several packages beginning with "openjdk" came back in that
command's MASSIVE output. I only use one single package repository
(source) right now so that tells me its all Debian that the "apt-cache
search" query is kicking back.

Just as example, I ran what I can find installed in my own setup right
now. That's "openjdk-7-jre". I performed the following command
(because I know it will tell me at least a little about that package):

$ dpkg -s openjdk-7-jre

Part of that command's (very cool) output says:

"Provides: java-runtime, java2-runtime, java5-runtime, java6-runtime,
java7-runtime"

Everyone's needs differ so that might not fit exactly what you're
looking for, BUT it does contain the word "java" a few times. Maybe
that will at least help you narrow down what you're looking for WHILE
still being able to stay truer specifically to actual Debian.

And that's, again, *IF* Debian is in fact what you have installed as
your operating system and not one of its many derivatives/offshoots
such as Ubuntu. If you *are* working out of a derivative (such as
Ubuntu), you do need to see what that derivative offers in its own
repositories because you never know what might have been changed to
function properly. Speaking firsthand, a system's stability begins
spiraling downward as soon as you (innocently) start picking from too
many different systems' resources.

Hope that helps at least a little.. :)

Cindy :)

PS packages.debian.org is a smarty pants. In response to my search
query on "java", it said: "Your keyword was too generic," to which I
most respectfully reply..

"Byte me."

I know it means nothing to me until I want to install CGoban, a go 
client been maintaining by kgs(www.gokgs.com). And I found my debian 
pre-installed a java version of 1.6.0, seems odd for ever.


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Re: about installing Java

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Chuge

Chris Fisichella 於 2015-2-13 9:50 寫道:

Quoting Jack Chuge :


I want to install the latest version of Java on my debian desktop. Is
there any quick way like using a terminal command? Though, I think
debian is the most stable Linux distro I've ever used so far, on the
other hand, I'm a newby to it. Any support is appreciated.
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Hi Jack,

This is hardly a let-me-google-this-for-you question. But, I did a
little googling and arrived at this website which is what I would use if
I wanted the latest Java on my machine:

http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html

They say to run the following:

su -
echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty main"
| tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
echo "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu trusty
main" | tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/webupd8team-java.list
apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys EEA14886
apt-get update
apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
exit



I hope you have root access to your machine. The instructions imply its
use.

HTH,
Chris


It seems it's not allowed sudo instead of su for calling root 
permission. Sadly, I've not setup a su password. How to fix it? Thank you.


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about installing Java

2015-02-12 Thread Jack Chuge

I want to install the latest version of Java on my debian desktop. Is
there any quick way like using a terminal command? Though, I think
debian is the most stable Linux distro I've ever used so far, on the
other hand, I'm a newby to it. Any support is appreciated.
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2015-02-12 Thread Jack Chuge

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Re: Remove unwanted, orphaned files and dependencies

2014-06-06 Thread Jack Wilborn
Ever heard of etymological fallacy?  Like dilapidated means 'stone' plus
'taken apart', yet we use the term for anything that's falling apart, even
if it's not made of stone..  Maybe that widens the forum idea, maybe not,
but you need to use what todays people think of a forum to be correct..
Not that I know anything anyway...

Jack


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:13 AM, The Wanderer  wrote:

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> On 06/06/2014 06:19 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote:
>
> [that on 2014-06-06 at 1:51, Bob Holtzman wrote:]
>
> >> BTW, do you know the difference between a forum and a mailing list?
> >> You seem to use "forum" as a catchall.
> >
> > A forum is a website whose members can post topics, questions and
> > answers. On the other hand, one needs to use an email account to do
> > the above?
>
> Historically speaking, the word "forum" goes back to Greek or Roman
> times (I forget which offhand), when it referred to a literal place
> where people would meet to discuss things.
>
> As such, a "forum for discussion" can be any place where people go to
> discuss things, or to leave messages for other people to respond to, or
> the like. Even a physical bulletin board can qualify.
>
> However, although a "mailing list" and a "Web forum" can both qualify as
> a "forum for discussion" in a technical sense, they are very different
> things. If you're referring to a Web forum, you should not call it just
> a "forum", and if you call a mailing list a "forum", you should not
> thereby imply that it shares any particular characteristics with a Web
> forum.
>
> >> I sure could have but every once in a while I get the urge to try
> >> to assist other posters to educate someone who sorely needs it.
> >> Unfortunately, it seems you're impervious.
> >
> > Yes, you're right. I'm impervious. What do you plan to do?
>
> So... as far as I can tell, either you've just admitted that you're
> incapable of learning and are beyond help, or you've just admitted that
> you're trolling.
>
> In either case, the only thing to do would be to begin outright ignoring
> you (possibly via killfile), and advise other people to do the same.
>
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Re: Growing number of packages not being upgraded

2013-12-10 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:30:01 +0100
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> The following packages have been kept back:
>libmateweather-common libmatewnck-common

MATE is slowly transitioning from the MATE repository to Debian.
Give it a few days and they will all be "upgraded". I think it's just
about version numbering, more than updates proper.


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Re: Drivers for Gigabyte GA-H87N mainboard with Intel i5-4670

2013-12-08 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 08:50:01 +0100
Ken Heard  wrote:

> So my question is: can this mainboard with that CPU/GPU and that
> chipset work properly in a Wheezy box with or without special drivers
> not already somewhere in the Wheezy package inventory?

I use an Asus Z87-A motherboard with Z87 chipset and an i5-4570S with
the HD4600 video chip. I had no problem installing Debian Wheezy. I
however use Sid, and that's where you will find the best support for
this very new hardware. At the very least, I'd recommend installing a
newer kernel and Xorg from backports.



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Re: Drivers for Gigabyte GA-H87N mainboard with Intel i5-4670

2013-12-08 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 08:50:01 +0100
Ken Heard  wrote:

> So my question is: can this mainboard with that CPU/GPU and that
> chipset work properly in a Wheezy box with or without special drivers
> not already somewhere in the Wheezy package inventory?

I use an Asus Z87-A motherboard with Z87 chipset and an i5-4570S with
the HD4600 video chip. I had no problem installing Debian Wheezy. I
however use Sid, and that's where you will find the best support for
this very new hardware. At the very least, I'd recommend installing a
newer kernel and Xorg from backports.



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Re: Installing Cinnamon 2.0

2013-10-11 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 16:50:01 +0200
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> MATE from upstream does conflict with other software. This isn't good,
> it's the most worse I can imagine and likely the reason that distros
> aren't interested to add it to official repositories. MATE is the only
> software I know available for Linux, that does conflict with common
> software.

I use MATE and I have not experience any conflicts. Do you have any
examples of programs that don't work when MATE is installed?
I am on Sid, if that helps.

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Re: Building computer

2013-09-28 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:00:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

> Thank you for the additional info. It sounds a whole lot like what I
> am getting in the Zareason computer I ordered. I am waiting very
> impatiently!

I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
card, and I checked on the Zareason website what they offer. I hope you
got a power supply with more than the 350W standard. I am not sure it
has enough horsepower to run an extra video card as well.

> But the Braid game is intriguing me - I must try it! Got any other
> suggestions?

Check out the Humble Bundle website, you'll find plenty of great linux
games!


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Re: Building computer

2013-09-28 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:00:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

> Thank you for the additional info. It sounds a whole lot like what I
> am getting in the Zareason computer I ordered. I am waiting very
> impatiently!

I was scrolling through the thread and I see you want to add a video
card, and I checked on the Zareason website what they offer. I hope you
got a power supply with more than the 350W standard. I am not sure it
has enough horsepower to run an extra video card as well.

> But the Braid game is intriguing me - I must try it! Got any other
> suggestions?

Check out the Humble Bundle website, you'll find plenty of great linux
games!


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Re: Building computer

2013-09-28 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 16:10:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

> Could you
> be so kind as to tell us whether the board came with default settings
> that worked, or whether you needed to make changes in the BIOS? 

I had to deactivate the "Secure Boot" option in order to be able to
boot Debian Installer's USB drive, which I prepared using Unetbootin.
Other than that, it's all stock.

> Can
> you tell us which integrated graphics the board has? The specs on the
> Asus website are oddly vague as to that one thing.

The onboard graphics depend on the CPU. In my case, it's HD4600, which
is the fastest you can get with a socketed CPU.
It's supported by the Intel driver in Wheezy for most things, however
now in Sid it is used 100%. I can do light gaming with it (I play Braid
a whole lot).


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Re: Building computer

2013-09-28 Thread Jack Malmostoso
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

> So, I am looking for recommendations on hardware, particularly
> motherboards, known to play nicely with Debian and boot consistently.

I hope I'm not late to the party, but here's my new setup (bought in
June) which runs Debian Sid without problems:

MoBo: Asus Z87-A iZ87, SATA600 RAID, USB3.0 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Processor Koeler Hyper 212 Evo
RAM: Corsair 2x4GB, DDR3, PC12800, CL9, Vengeance, LP
CPU: Intel Haswell Core i5 4570S 2.90GHz 6MB Box
DVD Writer: Samsung DVD Brander SH-224DB/BEBE 24x, SATA Bulk
HDD: 2x Western Digital Harddisk 3.5" 2TB, SATA300, WD20EURS

I am running the two HDD in RAID 1 as /home, while / is on an Intel
SSD SA2M080G2GC which I have recycled.
I had trouble at the beginning because I wanted to use an OCZ SSD with
Sandforce chipset, which was just flat out refused by the motherboard.
I swapped the OCZ with the Intel from my laptop and never looked back.

The CPU runs idle at 28C and the PC is completely silent.

I hope this helps.

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Re: synaptic - stuck

2013-09-08 Thread Jack Dangler


Sent from jack@ipad4

On Sep 8, 2013, at 19:18, Philip Ashmore  wrote:

> On 08/09/13 22:07, Verde Denim wrote:
>> On 09/08/2013 04:15 PM, Philip Ashmore wrote:
>>> On 08/09/13 18:43, Verde Denim wrote:
>>>> Ran an update last evening to include adding mono to the layout.  If I
>>>> could attach a screenshot, I would, but basically it looks to have
>>>> installed all of the packages and configure them, but is now just
>>>> sitting (still open on the 'installing software' dialog. It has been
>>>> over 12 hours, so I'm wondering if I could just shut this down. The end
>>>> of the text in the dialog is here -
>>>> 
>>>> Setting up mono-apache-server4 (2.10-2.4) ...
>>>> [] Reloading web server config: apache2apache2: Could not reliably
>>>> determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for
>>>> ServerName
>>>> . ok
>>>> [] Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably
>>>> determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for
>>>> ServerName
>>>> ... waiting apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully
>>>> qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
>>>> . ok
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Any input is, as always, much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>> Two items that spring to mind
>>> 1. is the "automatically close after the changes have been successfully
>>> applied" check box checked? If not then it won't close
>>> 2. is there another synaptic dialog open? I remember it sometimes offers
>>> configuration options for some packages and the poor state of synaptic
>>> desktop integration means that these won't appear in the task switcher -
>>> you need to minimize all other windows and maybe even peek behind
>>> synaptic by moving it to one side
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Philip Ashmore
>>> 
>>> 
>> Philip
>> Thanks for the suggestions, but yes, the 'Automatic close' is checked
>> and no, there are no other windows on the desktop. I thought about the
>> fact that another process might be a possible culprit, but -
>> 
>> jack  1271  1804  0 Sep07 ?00:00:00 /bin/sh
>> /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec
>> root  1273  1271  0 Sep07 ?00:00:58 /usr/sbin/synaptic
>> root  3462  1273  0 Sep07 pts/300:00:01 /usr/sbin/synaptic
>> 
>> This looks ok.
>> 
>> The details on the process running the update are -
>> 
>> root  5957  3462  0 Sep07 pts/400:00:00 /usr/bin/dpkg
>> --status-fd 63 --configure libart2.0-cil:al
>> l libglade2.0-cil:amd64 libglib2.0-cil-dev:amd64 libgtk2.0-cil-dev:amd64
>> libglade2.0-cil-dev:amd64 libgno
>> me-vfs2.0-cil:all libgnome2.24-cil:amd64 libmono-2.0-1:amd64
>> libmono-2.0-dev:amd64 libmono-corlib2.0-cil:
>> all libmono-accessibility2.0-cil:all libmono-accessibility4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-c5-1.1-cil:all libmono-cair
>> o2.0-cil:all libmono-posix2.0-cil:all libmono-system2.0-cil:all
>> libmono-security2.0-cil:all libmono-cecil
>> -private-cil:all libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil:all
>> libmono-data-tds2.0-cil:all libmono-system-data2.0-cil:all
>> libmono-sqlite2.0-cil:all libmono-messaging2.0-cil:all
>> libmono-system-messaging2.0-cil:all libmono2.0-cil
>> :all libmono-system-web2.0-cil:all libmono-wcf3.0-cil:all
>> libmono-system-data-linq2.0-cil:all libmono-cod
>> econtracts4.0-cil:all libmono-compilerservices-symbolwriter4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-cscompmgd8.0-cil:all libmo
>> no-csharp4.0-cil:all libmono-custommarshalers4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-data-tds4.0-cil:all libmono-system-trans
>> actions4.0-cil:all libmono-system-enterpriseservices4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-system-data4.0-cil:all libmono-db
>> 2-1.0-cil:all libmono-debugger-soft2.0-cil:all
>> libmono-debugger-soft4.0-cil:all libmono-sqlite4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-system-web-applicationservices4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-system-web-services4.0-cil:all libmono-system-
>> web4.0-cil:all libmono-web4.0-cil:all libmono-http4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil:all libmono-i18n2.
>> 0-cil:all libmono-i18n-cjk4.0-cil:all libmono-i18n-mideast4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-i18n-other4.0-cil:all libmo
>> no-i18n-rare4.0-cil:all libmono-i18n4.0-all:all libmono-ldap2.0-cil:all
>> libmono-ldap4.0-cil:all libmono-m
>> anagement2.0-cil:all libmono-management4.0-cil:all
>> libmono-messaging4.0-cil:all libmono-rabbitmq2.0-cil:a
>> ll libmono-messag

Re: Re: Backup/Restore software?

2013-07-15 Thread Jack Smith
Try Faronics Deep Freeze.. I think this is the software that you are
looking for... As I'm using it from last several years .. It is helping me
a lot.


Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]

2013-03-01 Thread Jack Schneider
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:37:32 -0500
Miles Fidelman  wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >
> >> Fair enough, but... I have to say it
> >>
> >> Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
> >> directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
> >> hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
> > You had TTL logic gates? Boy, you were lucky! We were given relay
> > switches from cast-off telephone equipment. And we had to buy our
> > own electrodes and lemons to power the machine.
> >
> >
> Ahh yes, programmable relay logic.  Still around, by the way. :-)
> 
> Ok, anybody here played with really old IBM card sorters - the kind
> that you programmed with patch cords? (Not me, I might add.)
> 
Like an IBM 1400?

'Musing along

Jack


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Filing a bug report via Windows?

2013-01-30 Thread Jack Wilborn
Hello,

I have a bug that needs to be reported, unfortunately I only have a
Windows 8 machine connected to the Internet.  I originally tried to
use an older Mac G5 but became so frustrated with getting on-line that
I finally purchased a complete 386 type machine to run Linux only.
The truth ended up that I couldn't get on-line with that machine
either.  I have a Qualcomm Atheros AR938X chip-set on a TP-Link
TL-WDN4800 WiFi PCI card.

When I install Debian 6.0 on my machine it does not detect this card,
but is detected when I run "lspci" from the command line within Debian
after the install.  I don't know how to properly report this bug.  I
picked this card because others have stated they run this card under
the same version of Debian and it works properly.  I don't know what
else to do but report a bug or how to manually install the proper
drivers to support this card.  This would also make it possible to
connect to the Internet and solve many problems.   As I have an iPhone
4, that works properly via a USB port on Windows 8, causes a Kernel
fault on the same machine under Linux with all the proper drivers.
Also the Atheros driver appears to be on my machine, but not loaded.

Any help would be wonderful.

Thanks

Jack K. Wilborn


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Re: Laptop fan control

2012-12-22 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:33:31 +1100
Daniel Dalton  wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> I'm using a Dell vostro 3350 machine. 
> 
> At times I feel the intensity of the fan is unnecessarily high. 
> 
> This occurs when for example using firefox or watching flash. 
> 
> It seems most times when I restart the gui the fan returns to normal
> speed. 
> 
> This is a concern because it obviously will effect battery life. 
> 
> So I'm wondering if this is unusual behaviour, and if so how to maybe
> correct it?
> 
> I've looked at thinkafan but no idea what I'm doing to be honest. 
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Dan
> 
> 
  

Hey,Daniel 

Try i8kutils,  Dell laptops do their own thing!!

Jack


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Problem with the Debian package system...

2012-12-15 Thread Jack Wilborn
Hello,  Not sure where this should go or if it's already there!  I
have an iPhone that I'm trying to use with Debian 6.0.6 on a Mac G5.
I've learned that the ipleth-dkms package associated with the
ipheth-utils packages.  I found both in the packages list, but this
one entry "ipheth-dkms — USB tethering driver for the iPhone [DKMS
driver source]" gives me an error that says the package does not
exist.  I would consider this a bug, but where to report it evades me.
 Any help would be appreciated.

jkwilb...@gmail.com

Thanks

Jack


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Re: Need help recovering hard drive

2012-12-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:42:48 -0600
Dennis Wicks  wrote:

> Greetings;
> 
> One of my hard drives quit working, and as luck would have 
> it, just before the scheduled backup! So I need to recover 
> some info that has been updated/added since the last backup.
> 
> First, is there any thing I can do to get the system to 
> mount that drive even with errors? As it is right now I get 
> error messages at boot time and the drive isn't recognized. 
> Apparently doesn't make any difference whether the drive is 
> on controller 0 or 1 or is master or slave.
> 
> Second, is there any program that I can use to get data of 
> off that drive?
> 
> TIA for any help!
> Dennis
> 
> 
Hi, Dennis

Have you looked at testdisk?


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Order Required...

2012-03-26 Thread Jack Teem
Hi there
   am enquiring about placing a quick order with you and i want it delivered to 
me here in Japan.I can advice a cheap and easy way for my order to be shipped 
to me without any delays.Please respond to me soon about my enquiry,then i can 
place my order with you right away and also let me know if you accept master or 
visa cards cause i will be paying with my credit card to avoid delays in order.
Jack




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Order Required...

2012-03-26 Thread Jack Teem
Hi there
   am enquiring about placing a quick order with you and i want it delivered to 
me here in Japan.I can advice a cheap and easy way for my order to be shipped 
to me without any delays.Please respond to me soon about my enquiry,then i can 
place my order with you right away and also let me know if you accept master or 
visa cards cause i will be paying with my credit card to avoid delays in order.
Jack




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Printing problem jpeg file size gets multiplied???

2011-07-11 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, All
I have two jpeg files on my desktop. Both show correct file sizes in
Properties.  Running Debian Squeeze Up2date.  Printer is Lexmark C540
Xl, printer properties shows connected to printer. via my local network.

Using Gthumb to print, it sends to queue and hangs... never prints...
Lexmark printer eventually goes to "powersave mode"  top of list is
"processing"
Looking at queue  for one image shows a file size of > 25megs  for a 2.2
meg jpeg file.   Both file sizes seem to be up by a factor of 10 

Where can I look for a start??? 

TIA, Jack


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Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-04 Thread Jack Dodds

Thanks to those who commented.

I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop   .  When this is done, programs
launch without delay.  Of course, this makes it impossible for any
program to access the Internet so it's not a solution!

However, taking gedit as an example,

Normal operation - Internet accessible - gedit launches in 2 seconds.
External problem - Internet inaccessible - gedit takes 60 seconds to launch.
Internal shutdown of networking - gedit launches in 2 seconds.

Maybe this means something, but I am not sure what.

I also found NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher daemons running.

I tried   /etc/init.d/network-manager stop   which eliminated one - I
killed the other.  This had no effect on the symptoms - gedit and other
still take 60 seconds ot launch.

I also found 8 instances of nfsd and one instance of nfsd4 running. 
Tried to kill -9 all of them.  This had no effect.

Any other suggestions?

Jack Dodds









William Hopkins wrote:
> On 06/03/11 at 10:17pm, Camaleón wrote:
>   
>> El 2011-06-03 a las 12:53 -0400, Thomas Milne escribió:
>>
>> (resending to the list)
>>
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>> On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:23 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> I am running Lenny.  The system is connected to the Internet via a
>>>>> Linksys BEFSR81router and a cable modem.  My desktop is Gnome.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the Internet is inaccessible - e.g. if the Ethernet cable is
>>>>> disconnected from the computer, or the cable modem power is
>>>>> disconnected, or if there are problems on the provider network - many
>>>>> GUI programs take a long time (about 60 seconds) to launch.
>>>>>   
>>>> (...)
>>>>
>>>> I have not experienced that specific behaviour in any of my lenny
>>>> systems.
>>>> 
>> (...)
>>
>> 
>>>> Run "top" to check for any runaway process.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>> This sounds suspiciously like the effects of Gnome's notorious Network
>>> Manager. This tells Internet applications whether you are connected or not.
>>> That's where I would start looking, at least.
>>>   
>> Yes, that would be a good test: shutdown the networking service 
>> ("/etc/init.d/networking stop") and then check if there is still a 
>> delay when opening gedit.
>> 
>
> This would be the same as disconnecting the ethernet, wouldn't it? 
> Network-manager is not called from this script. 
>
>   



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Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny

2011-06-03 Thread Jack Dodds

I am running Lenny.  The system is connected to the Internet via a
Linksys BEFSR81router and a cable modem.  My desktop is Gnome.

If the Internet is inaccessible - e.g. if the Ethernet cable is
disconnected from the computer, or the cable modem power is
disconnected, or if there are problems on the provider network - many
GUI programs take a long time (about 60 seconds) to launch.

To be specific, I have an icon for gedit on a panel on my desktop. 
Normally if I click on it the program is launched within about 2
seconds.  If the Internet is inaccessible, and I click on it, nothing
whatsoever appears on the screen for 60 seconds, then the gedit window
appears.  Once the program is launched it works fine.  This happens
every time certain programs are launched, until the Internet becomes
accessible again.

Not all programs are affected.  For example, from the "Graphics" section
of my start menu, GImageView, Gimp, GPicView, Inkscape, and XSane are
NOT affected.  Xpdf is not affected.

When an affected program is launched, and the Internet is accessible,
there is activity on the cable modem (lights flash) before the program
window first appears.  When an unaffected program is launched, this does
not happen in most cases.  I have checked the router logs.  There is no
sign of activity in the logs correlated to program launches.  However
the logs appear to show only TCP and UDP transfers.  They do not appear
to show e.g. DNS lookups, and they may not show mere connections if no
transfer occurs.

It appears that ALL programs that use the Qt application framework are
affected.  I am basing that on the distinctive "look" of Qt windows.  It
appears that MOST OR ALL programs designed to work specifically with
Gnome are affected.  (Often these are identified by the phrase "for
Gnome" in their Help-About windows.)  The programs that are not affected
appear to be older GTK+ programs.

I don't clearly understand the gnome-vfs system, but it seems as if the
affected programs are perhaps initializing a high-level file system
which tries to make some contact with the Internet, perhaps with a DNS
server, and has a 60 second timeout on that access.  I've looked at
Gnome and gnome-vfs2.0 config files but I don't immediately see anything
relevant.  I do not and have never used any kind of Internet networking
with this system other than the usual FTP, SFTP, and web browser clients.

I've Googled "Linux program launch hangs when Internet disconnected" and
similar phrases, with no relevant results.

Any advice would be gratefully accepted.








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Re: Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:29:44 +
Brian  wrote:

> On Wed 09 Feb 2011 at 18:13:54 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Brian, I'll try installing Lenny and then upgrading.  If I
> > still have trouble with Squeeze, then I'll have to stick with Lenny
> > until I buy a somewhat newer computer that doesn't have problems
> > with the Debian Squeeze CD.
> 
> As it happens I used PLOP and a usb stick to install Squeeze on one
> machine. The netinst.iso was put on to the stick using
> 
>cat netinst.iso > /dev/sdX
> 
> If the Squeeze installer and your machine don't get on it may not help
> you - but you never know.
> 
> 
If you can try burning the ISO on a CD-R media some OLD optical drives
can't handle the newer media, also burn at lowest speeds..

FWIW
Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-22 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:54:32 -0500
Tom H  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Jack Schneider
>  wrote:
> >
> >  I think I found a significant glitch.. I appears that mdadm is
> >  confused.  I think it happened when I created the /dev/md2 array
> > from the new disks.  It looks like the metadata 1.2 vs 0.90 configs
> > is the culprit...
> >
> > Here's the output of:
> >
> > mdadm --detail --scan:
> > ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=0.90
> > UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md1
> > metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1
> >
> > Here's the output of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf:
> >
> > DEVICE partitions
> > CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes
> > HOMEHOST 
> > MAILADDR root
> > ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2
> > UUID=f6de5584:d9dbce39:090f16ff:f795e54c name=hetzner:0
> > ARRAY /dev/md/1 metadata=1.2
> > UUID=0e065fee:15dea43e:f4ed7183:70d519bd name=hetzner:1
> > ARRAY /dev/md/2 metadata=1.2
> > UUID=ce4dd5a8:d8c2fdf4:4612713e:06047473 name=hetzner:2
> >
> > Given that the metadata from 0.90 & 1.2 cannot be on each  md0 and
> > md1 at the same time. Although they are on different places on the
> > disks IIRC.  Something needs to change...  I am thinking of an
> > mdadm.conf edit. But there maybe an alternative tool or
> > approach...  This was obtained using my Debian-live amd64
> > rescue disk.
> 
> Check your partitions' metadata with "mdadm --examine --scan
> --config=partitions". Those'll be the settings that you'll need in
> mdadm.conf.
> 
> 
Thanks, Tom

A couple of small ?s.  I can get the output of the command on the live
file system and it appears  to make sense.   I am running on a
debian-live amd64 O/S. The data has 4 arrays and I only have 3, there
are two entries for the "new empty disks" /dev/md/2 and /dev/md127.
They don't appear in /proc/mdstat, so they are not running.  Do I need
to "kill them permanently" some how?  I need, I think, to get the info
to the mdadm.conf on the "real" /dev/sda1 & /dev/sdc1 partitions.  Mount
them on the live system and edit mdadm.conf???  When I reboot, I'll
need the right info... chroot??
  
TIA Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-21 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:31:29 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > It booted to the correct grub menu then to Busy Box. I am thinking
> > it goes to BB because it can't find /var and or /usr on the
> > md1/sda5 LVM partition.
> 
> Very likely.
> 
> > I checked /proc/mdstat and lo & behold there was md1:active
> > with correct partitions and md0: active also correct partitions...
> 
> That is good news to hear.  Becuase it should mean that all of your
> data is okay on those disks.  That is always a comfort to know.
> 
> > So here I sit with a root prompt from Busy Box I checked mdadm
> > --examine for all known partitions and mdadm --detail /mdo & /md1
> > and all seems normal and correct.  No Errors.
> 
> Yeah!  :-)
> 
> > Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..
> > What the ... ?
> 
> That does seem strange.  Could the tool you used previously have
> edited that file?
> 
> You said you were using /dev/md1 as an lvm volume for /var, /home,
> swap and other.  As I read this it means you would only have /dev/md0
> for /boot in your /etc/fstab.  Right?  Something like this from my
> system:
> 
>   /dev/md0/boot  ext2defaults0   2
> 
> You /var, /home and swap would use the lvm, right?  So from my system
> I have the following:
> 
>   /dev/mapper/v1-var  /var   ext3defaults0   2
>   /dev/mapper/v1-home /home  ext3defaults0   2
> 
> Those don't mention /dev/md1 (which showed up for you as /dev/md126)
> at all.  They would only show up in the volume group display.
> 
> If you are seeing /dev/md126 in /etc/fstab then it is conflicting
> information.  You will have to sort out the information conflict.  Do
> you really have LVM in there?
> 
> Certainly if the "/dev/md0 /boot" boot line is incorrect then you
> should correct it.  Edit the file and fix it.  If your filesystem is
> mounted read-only at that point you will need to remount it
> read-write.
> 
>   mount -n -o remount,rw /
> 
> Bob



Hi, Bob  Back at it...8-(

 I think I found a significant glitch.. I appears that mdadm is
 confused.  I think it happened when I created the /dev/md2 array from
 the new disks.  It looks like the metadata 1.2 vs 0.90 configs is the
 culprit...  
Here's the output of:
mdadm --detail --scan:
ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=0.90 UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c
ARRAY /dev/md1 metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1

Here's the output of /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf:
 
# mdadm.conf
#
# Please refer to mdadm.conf(5) for information about this file.
#

# by default, scan all partitions (/proc/partitions) for MD superblocks.
# alternatively, specify devices to scan, using wildcards if desired.
DEVICE partitions

# auto-create devices with Debian standard permissions
CREATE owner=root group=disk mode=0660 auto=yes

# automatically tag new arrays as belonging to the local system
HOMEHOST 

# instruct the monitoring daemon where to send mail alerts
MAILADDR root

# definitions of existing MD arrays
ARRAY /dev/md/0 metadata=1.2 UUID=f6de5584:d9dbce39:090f16ff:f795e54c 
name=hetzner:0
ARRAY /dev/md/1 metadata=1.2 UUID=0e065fee:15dea43e:f4ed7183:70d519bd 
name=hetzner:1
ARRAY /dev/md/2 metadata=1.2 UUID=ce4dd5a8:d8c2fdf4:4612713e:06047473 
name=hetzner:2

# This file was auto-generated on Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:32:59 +
# by mkconf 3.1.4-1+8efb9d1

Given that the metadata from 0.90 & 1.2 cannot be on each  md0 and md1
at the same time. Although they are on different places on the disks
IIRC.  Something needs to change...  I am thinking of an mdadm.conf
edit. But there maybe an alternative tool or approach... 
This was obtained using my Debian-live amd64 rescue disk.

TIA
Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:19:11 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..
> > 
> > What the ... ?
> 
> After you modified thei files in the real filesystem, did you update
> the initramfs?
> 
Hi, Henrique

I have not modified any files a yet. I never got to the mdadm
--assemble because of the   mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md
array.  ERROR!

The curious question that exists is "why were md125,md126, created
when I tried to build the /dev/md2 array. The only difference is the
versions of mdadm used 3 years ago and ~10 days ago

TIA

Jack 


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:43:16 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > >
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> >
> > Bob, a small glitch.  mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
> > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above.
> 
> If mdadm --stop was successful then it must have been an array before
> that point.  So that doesn't make sense.  Double check everything.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 
> > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed.  Looks like
> > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere...
> 
> If you "create" an array it will destroy the data that is on the
> array.  Unless you want to discard your data you don't want to do
> that.  You want to "assemble" an array from the components.  That is
> an important distinction.
> 
> You really want to be able to assemble the array.  Do so with one disk
> only if that is the only way (would need the mdadm forcing options to
> start an array without all of the components) and then add the other
> disk back in.  But if the array was up a moment before then it should
> still be okay.  So I am suspicious about the problem.  Poke around a
> little more with --examine and --detail first.  Something does seem
> right.
> 
> > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config.  Running from a
> > sysrescuecd.  I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd.
> > Which I made this AM.
> 
> That would definitely improve things.  Because then you will have
> compatible versions of all of the tools.
> 
> Is your system amd64?
> 
> > I need to find out what's there...  
> > further:
> > Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox
> > prompt? 
> 
> If you are in a busybox prompt at boot time then you are already root
> and don't need an explicit 'su'.  You should be able to execute root
> commands.  The question is whether the mdadm command is available at
> that point.  The reason for busybox is that it is a self-contained set
> of small unix commands.  'mdadm' isn't one of those and so probably
> isn't available.  Normally you can edit files and the like.  Normally
> I would mount and chroot to the system.  But you don't yet have a
> system.  So that is problematic at that point.
> 
> Bob


Bob, MORE!

Both /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab show entries for /dev/md126..

What the ... ?

Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-18 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:43:16 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > >
> > >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> > >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1
> > > --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> >
> > Bob, a small glitch.  mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
> > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above.
> 
> If mdadm --stop was successful then it must have been an array before
> that point.  So that doesn't make sense.  Double check everything.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 
> > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed.  Looks like
> > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere...
> 
> If you "create" an array it will destroy the data that is on the
> array.  Unless you want to discard your data you don't want to do
> that.  You want to "assemble" an array from the components.  That is
> an important distinction.
> 
> You really want to be able to assemble the array.  Do so with one disk
> only if that is the only way (would need the mdadm forcing options to
> start an array without all of the components) and then add the other
> disk back in.  But if the array was up a moment before then it should
> still be okay.  So I am suspicious about the problem.  Poke around a
> little more with --examine and --detail first.  Something does seem
> right.
> 
> > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config.  Running from a
> > sysrescuecd.  I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd.
> > Which I made this AM.
> 
> That would definitely improve things.  Because then you will have
> compatible versions of all of the tools.
> 
> Is your system amd64?
> 
Yes,  a Supermicro X7DAL-E M/B with dual XEON quad core 3.2 ghz
processors and 4 Seagate Barracuda drives. 8 gigs of Ram.



> > I need to find out what's there...  
> > further:
> > Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox
> > prompt? 
> 
> If you are in a busybox prompt at boot time then you are already root
> and don't need an explicit 'su'.  You should be able to execute root
> commands.  The question is whether the mdadm command is available at
> that point.  The reason for busybox is that it is a self-contained set
> of small unix commands.  'mdadm' isn't one of those and so probably
> isn't available.  Normally you can edit files and the like.  Normally
> I would mount and chroot to the system.  But you don't yet have a
> system.  So that is problematic at that point.
> 
> Bob

This AM when I booted, (I powerdown "init 0" each PM to save power &
hassle from S/O) the machine did not come up with grub-rescue prompt.
It booted to the correct grub menu then to Busy Box. I am thinking it
goes to BB because it can't find /var and or /usr on the md1/sda5 LVM
partition. I checked /proc/mdstat and lo & behold there was md1:active
with correct partitions and md0: active also correct partitions...  I
must have been seeing md125 et al from only the sysrescuecd 2.0.0.  So
here I sit with a root prompt from Busy Box I checked mdadm
--examine for all known partitions and mdadm --detail /mdo & /md1 and
all seems normal and correct.  No Errors. 

I seem to need a way of rerunning grub-install or update-grub to
fix this setup.  What say you??  I am thinking of trying to start the
/etc/grub.d demon.

Jack






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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:50:12 -0600
Jack Schneider  wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700
> Bob Proulx  wrote:
> 
> > Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the
> > > > new disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array?  If
> > > > so then you are not done yet.  The LVM volume group won't be
> > > > able to assemble without the new disk.  If you did then you
> > > > need to fix up LVM next.
> > >> 
> > > NO!  I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM..  So that is
> > > not a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed..
> > 
> > Oh good.  Then you are good to go.  Run these commands to stop the
> > arrays and to reassemble them with the new names.
> > 
> >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > 
> >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> > 
> > Then try rebooting to the system.  I think at that point that all
> > should be okay and that it should boot up into the previous system.
> > 
> > >  Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort
> > > you and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and
> > > all will be well..
> > 
> > I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay.
> > 
> > >  I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait
> > > for your response and then go!!!
> > 
> > Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and
> > to reboot to the previous system.  I believe that should work.
> > Hope so. These things can be finicky though.
> > 
> > >  One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm
> > >  v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which
> > > changed the md names.  Does this matter
> > 
> > Yes.  I am a little worried about that problem too.  But we were at
> > a good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things.  But
> > let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and
> > you can boot to your system again.  Then what should be done about
> > the new disks?  Let me talk about the new disks.  But hold off
> > working this part of the problem until you have the first part
> > done.  Just do one thing at a time.
> > 
> >   /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted
> >   ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2
> > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd
> > 
> > This was created using newer metadata.  I think that is going to be
> > a problem for Lenny/Sqeeze.  It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is
> > 0.90.  (A major difference is where the metadata is located.  1.0
> > is in a similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near
> > the start of the device.)  Plus you assigned the entire drive
> > (/dev/sdb) instead of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1).  I
> > personally don't prefer that and always set up using a partition
> > instead of the whole disk.
> > 
> > I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks.  I
> > suggest stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a
> > partion instead of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly
> > created partitions.  Do that under your (hopefully now booting)
> > Squeeze system and then you are assured of compatibility.  It is
> > perhaps possible that because of the new metadata that the
> > metadata=1.2 array won't be recognized under Squeeze.  I don't
> > know.  I haven't been in that situation yet.  I think that would be
> > good though because it would mean that they would just look like
> > raw disks again without needing to stop the array, if it never got
> > started.  Then you could partition and so forth.  The future is
> > hard to see here.
> > 
> > So that is my advice.  If the new array is running then I would stop
> > it.  (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb
> > into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1.  Then create the array
> > using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions.  Then decide how to make use
> > of it.
> > 
> > Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you
> > also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to
> > assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot.  (Saying that
> > mostly for people who find this in the arc

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new
> > > disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array?  If so
> > > then you are not done yet.  The LVM volume group won't be able to
> > > assemble without the new disk.  If you did then you need to fix
> > > up LVM next.
> >> 
> > NO!  I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM..  So that is
> > not a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed..
> 
> Oh good.  Then you are good to go.  Run these commands to stop the
> arrays and to reassemble them with the new names.
> 
>   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
>   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> 
>   mdadm --stop /dev/126
>   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> 
> Then try rebooting to the system.  I think at that point that all
> should be okay and that it should boot up into the previous system.
> 
> >  Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you
> >  and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all
> > will be well..
> 
> I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay.
> 
> >  I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for
> > your response and then go!!!
> 
> Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and to
> reboot to the previous system.  I believe that should work.  Hope so.
> These things can be finicky though.
> 
> >  One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm
> >  v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed
> >  the md names.  Does this matter
> 
> Yes.  I am a little worried about that problem too.  But we were at a
> good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things.  But
> let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and you
> can boot to your system again.  Then what should be done about the new
> disks?  Let me talk about the new disks.  But hold off working this
> part of the problem until you have the first part done.  Just do one
> thing at a time.
> 
>   /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted
>   ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2
> UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd
> 
> This was created using newer metadata.  I think that is going to be a
> problem for Lenny/Sqeeze.  It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is 0.90.  (A
> major difference is where the metadata is located.  1.0 is in a
> similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near the start
> of the device.)  Plus you assigned the entire drive (/dev/sdb) instead
> of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1).  I personally don't prefer
> that and always set up using a partition instead of the whole disk.
> 
> I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks.  I suggest
> stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a partion instead
> of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly created
> partitions.  Do that under your (hopefully now booting) Squeeze system
> and then you are assured of compatibility.  It is perhaps possible
> that because of the new metadata that the metadata=1.2 array won't be
> recognized under Squeeze.  I don't know.  I haven't been in that
> situation yet.  I think that would be good though because it would
> mean that they would just look like raw disks again without needing to
> stop the array, if it never got started.  Then you could partition and
> so forth.  The future is hard to see here.
> 
> So that is my advice.  If the new array is running then I would stop
> it.  (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb
> into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1.  Then create the array
> using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions.  Then decide how to make use
> of it.
> 
> Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you
> also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to
> assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot.  (Saying that
> mostly for people who find this in the archive later.)
> 
> Bob
> 

Bob, a small glitch.  mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
mdadm --stop was successful, before the above. 

It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed.  Looks like
md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere...  

One of the problems of my "no problem found" mentality..

Jack  


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:> will be well..
> 
> I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay.
> 
> >  I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for
> > your response and then go!!!
> 
> Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and to
> reboot to the previous system.  I believe that should work.  Hope so.
> These things can be finicky though.
> 
> >  One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm
> >  v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed
> >  the md names.  Does this matter
> 
> Yes.  I am a little worried about that problem too.  But we were at a
> good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things.  But
> let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and you
> can boot to your system again.  Then what should be done about the new
> disks?  Let me talk about the new disks.  But hold off working this
> part of the problem until you have the first part done.  Just do one
> thing at a time.
> 
>   /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted
>   ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2
> UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd
> 
> This was created using newer metadata.  I think that is going to be a
> problem for Lenny/Sqeeze.  It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is 0.90.  (A
> major difference is where the metadata is located.  1.0 is in a
> similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near the start
> of the device.)  Plus you assigned the entire drive (/dev/sdb) instead
> of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1).  I personally don't prefer
> that and always set up using a partition instead of the whole disk.
> 
> I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks.  I suggest
> stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a partion instead
> of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly created
> partitions.  Do that under your (hopefully now booting) Squeeze system
> and then you are assured of compatibility.  It is perhaps possible
> that because of the new metadata that the metadata=1.2 array won't be
> recognized under Squeeze.  I don't know.  I haven't been in that
> situation yet.  I think that would be good though because it would
> mean that they would just look like raw disks again without needing to
> stop the array, if it never got started.  Then you could partition and
> so forth.  The future is hard to see here.
> 
> So that is my advice.  If the new array is running then I would stop
> it.  (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb
> into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1.  Then create the array
> using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions.  Then decide how to make use
> of it.
> 
> Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you
> also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to
> assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot.  (Saying that
> mostly for people who find this in the archive later.)
> 
> Bob
> 

Thanks, Bob 

What is the command to rebuild initrd? From what directory?
Just mostly for people who find this in the archive later.   8-)

Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. 2nd Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:19:03 -0600
Jack Schneider  wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:42:49 -0700
> Bob Proulx  wrote:
> 
> > Jack,
> > 
> > With your pastebin information and the mdstat information (that last
> > information in your mail and pastebins was critical good stuff) and
> > I found this old posting from you too:  :-)
> > 
> >   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/10/msg00808.html
> > 
> > With all of that I deduce the following:
> > 
> >   /dev/md125 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm
> >   /dev/md126 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var,
> > swap, ... /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted
> > 
> > Jack, If that is wrong please correct me.  But I think that is
> > right.
> > 
> 
> That is Exactly correct.
> 
> 
> > The mdstat data showed that the arrays are sync'd.  The UUIDs are as
> > follows.
> > 
> >   ARRAY /dev/md/125_0 metadata=0.90
> > UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md/126_0
> > metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1
> > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2
> > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd
> > 
> > The desired state:
> > 
> >   /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm
> >   /dev/md1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ...
> > 
> > Will get to /dev/md2 later...
> > 
> > > My thinking is that I should rerun mdadm and reassemble the arrays
> > > to the original definitions...  /md0  from sda1 & sdc1
> > >/md1  from sda5 & sdc5  note: sda2
> > > &sdc2 are  legacy msdos extended partitions.
> > > I would not build a md device with msdos extended partitions under
> > > LVM2 at this time..   Agree?
> > 
> > Agreed.  You want to rename the arrays.  Don't touch the msdos
> > partitions.
> > 
> > > Is the above doable?  If I can figure the right mdadm
> > > commands...8-)
> > 
> > Yes.  It is doable.  You can rename the array.  First stop the
> > array. Then assemble it again with the new desired name.  Here is
> > what you want to do.  Tom, Henrique, others, Please double check me
> > on these.
> > 
> >   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
> >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> > 
> >   mdadm --stop /dev/126
> >   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> > 
> > That should by itself be enough to get the arrays going.
> > 
> > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new
> > disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array?  If so then
> > you are not done yet.  The LVM volume group won't be able to
> > assemble without the new disk.  If you did then you need to fix up
> > LVM next.
> >
> 
> NO!  I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM..  So that is not
> a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed..
>  
> > I think you should try to get back to where you were before when
> > your system was working.  Therefore I would remove the new disks
> > from the LVM volume group.  But I don't know if you did or did not
> > add it yet. So I must stop here and wait for further information
> > from you.
> > 
> 
> > I don't know if your rescue disk has lvm automatically configured or
> > not.  You may need to load the device mapper module dm_mod.  I don't
> > know.  If you do then here is a hint:
> > 
> >   modprobe dm_mod
> > 
> > To scan for volume groups:
> > 
> >   vgscan
> > 
> Found volume group "Speeduke" using metadata type lvm2
> 
> 
> > To activate a volume group:
> > 
> >   vgchange -ay
> 
> 5 logical volume(s) in volume group "Speeduke" now active
> 
> > 
> > To display the physical volumes associated with a volume group:
> > 
> >   pvdisplay
> >
> 
> PV Name /dev/md126
> VG Name Speeduke
> 
> Other data ommited
> 
> PV UUID kUoBgV-R9n6-exZ1-fdIk-aqlb-7Ue1-R3B1PD 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > If the new disks haven't been added to the volume group (I am hoping
> > not) then you should be home free.  But if they are then I think you
> > will need to remove them first.
> > 
> > I don't know if the LVM actions above are going to be needed.  I am
> > just trying to proactively give some possible hints.
> > 
> > Bob
> 
 
 
  Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you
  and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all
 will be well..
  I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for
 your response and then go!!!
 
  One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using md
 metadata v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm metadata v 1.3
 which changed the md names.  Does this matter
 

 Jack
 
 
 

 


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-17 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:42:49 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack,
> 
> With your pastebin information and the mdstat information (that last
> information in your mail and pastebins was critical good stuff) and
> I found this old posting from you too:  :-)
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/10/msg00808.html
> 
> With all of that I deduce the following:
> 
>   /dev/md125 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm
>   /dev/md126 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ...
>   /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted
> 
> Jack, If that is wrong please correct me.  But I think that is right.
> 

That is Exactly correct.


> The mdstat data showed that the arrays are sync'd.  The UUIDs are as
> follows.
> 
>   ARRAY /dev/md/125_0 metadata=0.90
> UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md/126_0
> metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1
> ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2
> UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd
> 
> The desired state:
> 
>   /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm
>   /dev/md1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ...
> 
> Will get to /dev/md2 later...
> 
> > My thinking is that I should rerun mdadm and reassemble the arrays
> > to the original definitions...  /md0  from sda1 & sdc1
> >  /md1  from sda5 & sdc5  note: sda2
> > &sdc2 are  legacy msdos extended partitions.
> > I would not build a md device with msdos extended partitions under
> > LVM2 at this time..   Agree?
> 
> Agreed.  You want to rename the arrays.  Don't touch the msdos
> partitions.
> 
> > Is the above doable?  If I can figure the right mdadm commands...8-)
> 
> Yes.  It is doable.  You can rename the array.  First stop the array.
> Then assemble it again with the new desired name.  Here is what you
> want to do.  Tom, Henrique, others, Please double check me on these.
> 
>   mdadm --stop /dev/md125
>   mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1
> 
>   mdadm --stop /dev/126
>   mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5
> 
> That should by itself be enough to get the arrays going.
> 
> But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new disk
> array to the LVM volume group on the above array?  If so then you are
> not done yet.  The LVM volume group won't be able to assemble without
> the new disk.  If you did then you need to fix up LVM next.
>

NO!  I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM..  So that is not a
problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed..
 
> I think you should try to get back to where you were before when your
> system was working.  Therefore I would remove the new disks from the
> LVM volume group.  But I don't know if you did or did not add it yet.
> So I must stop here and wait for further information from you.
> 

> I don't know if your rescue disk has lvm automatically configured or
> not.  You may need to load the device mapper module dm_mod.  I don't
> know.  If you do then here is a hint:
> 
>   modprobe dm_mod
> 
> To scan for volume groups:
> 
>   vgscan
> 
Found volume group "Speeduke" using metadata type lvm2


> To activate a volume group:
> 
>   vgchange -ay

5 logical volume(s) in volume group "Speeduke" now active

> 
> To display the physical volumes associated with a volume group:
> 
>   pvdisplay
>

PV Name /dev/md126
VG Name Speeduke

Other data ommited

PV UUID kUoBgV-R9n6-exZ1-fdIk-aqlb-7Ue1-R3B1PD 




> If the new disks haven't been added to the volume group (I am hoping
> not) then you should be home free.  But if they are then I think you
> will need to remove them first.
> 
> I don't know if the LVM actions above are going to be needed.  I am
> just trying to proactively give some possible hints.
> 
> Bob



 Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you
 and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all will
 be well..
 I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for your
 response and then go!!!

 One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm
 v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed
 the md names.  Does this matter

Jack



Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!

2011-01-16 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:57:46 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > > > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > > > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility
> > > > from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end
> > > > result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working
> > > > 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> > > 
> > > Something else must have happened too.  Because normally just
> > > adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays.  I am not
> > > familiar with the "Disk Utility" that you mention.
> >
> > Hi, Bob 
> > Thanks for your encouraging advice...
> 
> I believe you should be able to completely recover from the current
> problems.  But it may be tedious and not completely trivial.  You will
> just have to work through it.
> 
> Now that there is more information available, and knowing that you are
> using software raid and lvm, let me guess.  You added another physical
> extent (a new /dev/md2 partition) to the root volume group?  If so
> that is a common problem.  I have hit it myself on a number of
> occasions.  You need to update the mdadm.conf file and rebuild the
> initrd.  I will say more details about it as I go here in this
> message.
> 
> > As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub
> > rescue>prompt.  
> > 
> > I followed this procedure:
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
> 
> That seems reasonable.  It talks about how to drive the grub boot
> prompt to manually set up the boot.
> 
> But you were talking about using a disk utility from a live cd to
> configure a new array with two new drives and that is where I was
> thinking that you had been modifying the arrays.  It sounded like it
> anyway.
> 
> Gosh it would be a lot easier if we could just pop in for a quick peek
> at the system in person.  But we will just have to make do with the
> correspondence course.  :-)
> 
> > Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is
> > correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now
> > finding the root/boot partitions and files. 
> 
> That sounds good.  Hopefully not too bad off then.
> 
> > > Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly.  It really is
> > > quite easy to create new arrays using it.  Here is an example that
> > > will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices
> > > /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5.
> > > 
> > >   mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror
> > > --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5
> > > 
> > > > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives
> > > > remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The
> > > > result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array.
> 
> > This is how I created /dev/md2.
> 
> Then that explains why it didn't change.  Probably the HOMEHOST
> parameter is involved on the ones that changed.  Using mdadm from the
> command line doesn't set that parameter.
> 
> There was just a long discussion about this topic just recently.
> You might want to jump into it in the middle here and read our
> learnings with HOMEHOST.
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg01105.html
> 
> > mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda2  gives I think a clean result 
> > I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3
> 
> That looks good to me.  And healthy and normal.  Looks good to me for
> that part.
> 
> But that is only the first partition.  That is just /dev/md0.  Do you
> have any information on the other partitions?
> 
> You can look at /proc/partitions to get a list of all of the
> partitions that the kernel knows about.
> 
>   cat /proc/partitions
> 
> Then you can poke at the other ones too.  But it looks like the
> filesystems are there okay.
> 
> > mdadm --detail /dev/md0 --> gives  mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does
> > not appear to be active. 
> > 
> > There is no /proc/mdstat  data output.  
> 
> So it looks like the raid data is there on the disks but that the
> multidevice (md) module is not starting up in the kernel.  Because it
> isn't starting then there aren't any /dev/md* devices and no status
> output in /proc/mdstat.
> 
> > > I would boot

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-16 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:57:46 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > > > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > > > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility
> > > > from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end
> > > > result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working
> > > > 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> > > 
> > > Something else must have happened too.  Because normally just
> > > adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays.  I am not
> > > familiar with the "Disk Utility" that you mention.
> >
> > Hi, Bob 
> > Thanks for your encouraging advice...
> 
> I believe you should be able to completely recover from the current
> problems.  But it may be tedious and not completely trivial.  You will
> just have to work through it.
> 
> Now that there is more information available, and knowing that you are
> using software raid and lvm, let me guess.  You added another physical
> extent (a new /dev/md2 partition) to the root volume group?  If so
> that is a common problem.  I have hit it myself on a number of
> occasions.  You need to update the mdadm.conf file and rebuild the
> initrd.  I will say more details about it as I go here in this
> message.
> 
> > As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub
> > rescue>prompt.  
> > 
> > I followed this procedure:
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
> 
> That seems reasonable.  It talks about how to drive the grub boot
> prompt to manually set up the boot.
> 
> But you were talking about using a disk utility from a live cd to
> configure a new array with two new drives and that is where I was
> thinking that you had been modifying the arrays.  It sounded like it
> anyway.
> 
> Gosh it would be a lot easier if we could just pop in for a quick peek
> at the system in person.  But we will just have to make do with the
> correspondence course.  :-)
> 
> > Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is
> > correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now
> > finding the root/boot partitions and files. 
> 
> That sounds good.  Hopefully not too bad off then.
> 
> > > Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly.  It really is
> > > quite easy to create new arrays using it.  Here is an example that
> > > will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices
> > > /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5.
> > > 
> > >   mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror
> > > --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5
> > > 
> > > > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives
> > > > remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The
> > > > result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array.
> 
> > This is how I created /dev/md2.
> 
> Then that explains why it didn't change.  Probably the HOMEHOST
> parameter is involved on the ones that changed.  Using mdadm from the
> command line doesn't set that parameter.
> 
> There was just a long discussion about this topic just recently.
> You might want to jump into it in the middle here and read our
> learnings with HOMEHOST.
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg01105.html
> 
> > mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda2  gives I think a clean result 
> > I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3
> 
> That looks good to me.  And healthy and normal.  Looks good to me for
> that part.
> 
> But that is only the first partition.  That is just /dev/md0.  Do you
> have any information on the other partitions?
> 
> You can look at /proc/partitions to get a list of all of the
> partitions that the kernel knows about.
> 
>   cat /proc/partitions
> 
> Then you can poke at the other ones too.  But it looks like the
> filesystems are there okay.
> 
> > mdadm --detail /dev/md0 --> gives  mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does
> > not appear to be active. 
> > 
> > There is no /proc/mdstat  data output.  
> 
> So it looks like the raid data is there on the disks but that the
> multidevice (md) module is not starting up in the kernel.  Because it
> isn't starting then there aren't any /dev/md* devices and no status
> output in /proc/mdstat.
> 
> > > I would boot

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-16 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:57:46 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > > > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > > > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility
> > > > from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end
> > > > result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working
> > > > 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> > > 
> > > Something else must have happened too.  Because normally just
> > > adding arrays will not rename the existing arrays.  I am not
> > > familiar with the "Disk Utility" that you mention.
> >
> > Hi, Bob 
> > Thanks for your encouraging advice...
> 
> I believe you should be able to completely recover from the current
> problems.  But it may be tedious and not completely trivial.  You will
> just have to work through it.
> 
> Now that there is more information available, and knowing that you are
> using software raid and lvm, let me guess.  You added another physical
> extent (a new /dev/md2 partition) to the root volume group?  If so
> that is a common problem.  I have hit it myself on a number of
> occasions.  You need to update the mdadm.conf file and rebuild the
> initrd.  I will say more details about it as I go here in this
> message.
> 
> > As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub
> > rescue>prompt.  
> > 
> > I followed this procedure:
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
> 
> That seems reasonable.  It talks about how to drive the grub boot
> prompt to manually set up the boot.
> 
> But you were talking about using a disk utility from a live cd to
> configure a new array with two new drives and that is where I was
> thinking that you had been modifying the arrays.  It sounded like it
> anyway.
> 
> Gosh it would be a lot easier if we could just pop in for a quick peek
> at the system in person.  But we will just have to make do with the
> correspondence course.  :-)
> 
> > Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is
> > correct. With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now
> > finding the root/boot partitions and files. 
> 
> That sounds good.  Hopefully not too bad off then.
> 
> > > Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly.  It really is
> > > quite easy to create new arrays using it.  Here is an example that
> > > will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices
> > > /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5.
> > > 
> > >   mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror
> > > --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5
> > > 
> > > > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives
> > > > remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The
> > > > result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array.
> 
> > This is how I created /dev/md2.
> 
> Then that explains why it didn't change.  Probably the HOMEHOST
> parameter is involved on the ones that changed.  Using mdadm from the
> command line doesn't set that parameter.
> 
> There was just a long discussion about this topic just recently.
> You might want to jump into it in the middle here and read our
> learnings with HOMEHOST.
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg01105.html
> 
> > mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda2  gives I think a clean result 
> > I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3
> 
> That looks good to me.  And healthy and normal.  Looks good to me for
> that part.
> 
> But that is only the first partition.  That is just /dev/md0.  Do you
> have any information on the other partitions?
> 
> You can look at /proc/partitions to get a list of all of the
> partitions that the kernel knows about.
> 
>   cat /proc/partitions
> 
> Then you can poke at the other ones too.  But it looks like the
> filesystems are there okay.
> 
> > mdadm --detail /dev/md0 --> gives  mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does
> > not appear to be active. 
> > 
> > There is no /proc/mdstat  data output.  
> 
> So it looks like the raid data is there on the disks but that the
> multidevice (md) module is not starting up in the kernel.  Because it
> isn't starting then there aren't any /dev/md* devices and no status
> output in /proc/mdstat.
> 
> > > I would boot

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-15 Thread Jack Schneider
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:25:45 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from
> > a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was
> > the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives.
> > IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> 
> Something else must have happened too.  Because normally just adding
> arrays will not rename the existing arrays.  I am not familiar with
> the "Disk Utility" that you mention.
> 
Hi, Bob 
Thanks for your encouraging advice...

As I mentioned in a prior post,Grub was leaving me at a Grub rescue>prompt.  

I followed this procedure:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell
Booting now leaves me at a busy box: However the Grub menu is correct.
With the correct kernels. So it appears that grub is now finding the
root/boot partitions and files. 
> Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly.  It really is
> quite easy to create new arrays using it.  Here is an example that
> will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices
> /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5.
> 
>   mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror
> --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5
> 
> > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as
> > /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that
> > Grub2 fails to boot the / array.
> 
> You may have to boot a rescue cd.  I recommend booting the Debian
> install disk in rescue mode.  Then you can inspect and fix the
> problem.  But as of yet you haven't said enough to let us know what
> the problem might be yet.
> 
> > I have tried three REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd
> > online docs and many others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc.
> 
> This isn't encouraging.  I can tell that you are grasping at straws.
> You have my sympathy.  But unfortunately that doesn't help diagnose
> the problem.  Remain calm.  And repeat exactly the problem that you
> are seeing and the steps you have taken to correct it.
> 
> > The errors occur when I try to mount the partition with the /boot
> > directory. 'Complains about file system type 'linux_raid_member'
> 
> I haven't seen that error before.  Maybe someone else will recognize
> it.
> 
> I don't understand why you would get an error mounting /boot that
> would prevent the system from coming online.  Because by the time the
> system has booted enough to mount /boot it has already practically
> booted completely.  The system doesn't actually need /boot mounted to
> boot.  Grub reads the files from /boot and sets things in motion and
> then /etc/fstab instructs the system to mount /boot.
> 
> Usually when the root device cannot be assembled the error I see is
> that the system is "Waiting for root filesystem" and can eventually
> get to a recovery shell prompt.
> 
> > This machine has worked for 3 years flawlessly.. Can anyone help
> > with this? Or point me to a place or link to get this fixed. Google
> > doesn't help... I can't find a article/posting where it ended
> > successfully.  I have considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes
> > stable, since this O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But
> > useless now..
> 
> The partitions for raid volumes should be 'autodetect' 0xFD.  This
> will enable mdadm to assemble then into raid at boot time.
> 
> You can inspect the raid partitions with --detail and --examine.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 

mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 & /dev/sda2  gives I think a clean result 
I have posted the output at : http://pastebin.com/pHpKjgK3
mdadm --detail /dev/md0 --> gives  mdadm: md device /dev/md0 does not
appear to be active. 

There is no /proc/mdstat  data output.  

> That will list information about the devices.  Replace with your own
> series of devices.
> 
> I would boot a rescue image and then inspect the current configuration
> using the above commands.  Hopefully that will show something wrong
> that can be fixed after you know what it is.
> 
> A couple of other hints: If you are not booting a rescue system but
> using something like a live boot then you may need to load the kernel
> modules manually.  You may need to load the dm_mod and md_mod modules.
> 
>   modprobe md_mod
> 
> You might get useful information from looking at the /proc/mdstat
> status.


> 
>   cat /proc/

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-15 Thread Jack Schneider
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:06:11 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > >> You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's
> > > >> instead of /dev/mdX.  That removes the possibility that the
> > > >> kernel will change the mdX designations.
> > > >>
> > > >> Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions.
> 
> Whatever you do, NEVER use the UUIDs of partitions, use the UUID of
> the md devices.  The worst failure scenario involving MD and idiotic
> tools is for a tool to cause a component device to be mounted instead
> of the MD array.
> 
> This is one of the reasons why the new MD formats that offset the data
> inside the component devices exists.
> 
Thanks, Henrique!!!  That gives me a new place to start this AM...

Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-15 Thread Jack Schneider
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:25:45 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from
> > a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was
> > the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives.
> > IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> 
> Something else must have happened too.  Because normally just adding
> arrays will not rename the existing arrays.  I am not familiar with
> the "Disk Utility" that you mention.
> 
> Next time instead you might just use mdadm directly.  It really is
> quite easy to create new arrays using it.  Here is an example that
> will create a new device /dev/md9 mirrored from two other devices
> /dev/sdy5 and /dev/sdz5.
> 
>   mdadm --create /dev/md9 --level=mirror
> --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdy5 /dev/sdz5

This is how I created /dev/md2.

> 
> > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as
> > /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that
> > Grub2 fails to boot the / array.
> 
> You may have to boot a rescue cd.  I recommend booting the Debian
> install disk in rescue mode.  Then you can inspect and fix the
> problem.  But as of yet you haven't said enough to let us know what
> the problem might be yet.
> 
> > I have tried three REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd
> > online docs and many others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc.
> 
> This isn't encouraging.  I can tell that you are grasping at straws.
> You have my sympathy.  But unfortunately that doesn't help diagnose
> the problem.  Remain calm.  And repeat exactly the problem that you
> are seeing and the steps you have taken to correct it.
> 
I have not made any changes to any files on the root partition. I have
only used the procedures from SystemRescueCD and then backed out. All
seem to fail with the same "linux_raid_member" error.
> > The errors occur when I try to mount the partition with the /boot
> > directory. 'Complains about file system type 'linux_raid_member'
> 


> I haven't seen that error before.  Maybe someone else will recognize
> it.
> 
> I don't understand why you would get an error mounting /boot that
> would prevent the system from coming online.  Because by the time the
> system has booted enough to mount /boot it has already practically
> booted completely.  The system doesn't actually need /boot mounted to
> boot.  Grub reads the files from /boot and sets things in motion and
> then /etc/fstab instructs the system to mount /boot.
I get that when using the live rescue disk.
> 
> Usually when the root device cannot be assembled the error I see is
> that the system is "Waiting for root filesystem" and can eventually
> get to a recovery shell prompt.
> 
> > This machine has worked for 3 years flawlessly.. Can anyone help
> > with this? Or point me to a place or link to get this fixed. Google
> > doesn't help... I can't find a article/posting where it ended
> > successfully.  I have considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes
> > stable, since this O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But
> > useless now..
> 
> The partitions for raid volumes should be 'autodetect' 0xFD.  This
> will enable mdadm to assemble then into raid at boot time.
> 
> You can inspect the raid partitions with --detail and --examine.
> 
>   mdadm --examine /dev/sda1
>   mdadm --detail /dev/md0
> 
> That will list information about the devices.  Replace with your own
> series of devices.
> 
> I would boot a rescue image and then inspect the current configuration
> using the above commands.  Hopefully that will show something wrong
> that can be fixed after you know what it is.
> 
> A couple of other hints: If you are not booting a rescue system but
> using something like a live boot then you may need to load the kernel
> modules manually.  You may need to load the dm_mod and md_mod modules.
> 
>   modprobe md_mod
> 
> You might get useful information from looking at the /proc/mdstat
> status.
> 
>   cat /proc/mdstat
> 
> There is a configuration file /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf that holds the
> UUIDs of the configured devices.  If those have become corrupted then
> mdadm won't be able to assemble the /dev/md* devices.  Check that file
> and compare against what you see with the --detail output.
> 
> The initrd contains a copy of the mdadm.conf file with the components
> needed to assemble the root filesystem.  If t

Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-15 Thread Jack Schneider
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:16:37 -0500
Tom H  wrote:
> >> >
[BIG SNIP]

> >> You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's
> >> instead of /dev/mdX.  That removes the possibility that the kernel
> >> will change the mdX designations.
> >>
> >> Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions.
> >
> > Thanks for the reply, Rob. What grub file do I change?
> > grub.cfg?  grub *.map? I seem to have UUIDs for both disks and
> > LVM partitions, change both?
> 
> So you have LVM over RAID, not just RAID.
Hi, Tom.
Well, not really, not all of the disks are LVM2. The first two
disks raid1 /dev/sda & /dev/sdc are partitioned with 1 small
/(root) partition, /dev/md0 -> 10 gigs. The balance of the disk
is /dev/md1 under LVM2 with seven logical volumes. /home,/var,/swap
etc  The next two disks sdb and sdd are raid1 as /dev/md2 which I
need to use as an extension of the LVM. 

More info, when I boot the machine, I see the "GRUB loading. WELCOME to
GRUB!" info.  Then it enters the rescue mode with a "grub rescue>"
prompt.  So the kernel is found/finding the / partition. Right?
 


> 
> For grub2, you're only supposed to edit "/etc/default/grub".
> 
> 

I started interpreting that as simply needing a update-grub type of
fix.. I was/am  wrong...   So I resorted  to systemrescuecd-2.0.0..
to fix up Grub..


Thanks, Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-14 Thread Jack Schneider
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:06:17 -0600
Jack Schneider  wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:43:53 -0500
> Rob Owens  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:23:11AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility
> > > from a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end
> > > result was the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2
> > > drives. IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127.
> > > Strangely the md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains
> > > as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is
> > > that Grub2 fails to boot the / array. I have tried three
> > > REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd online docs and many
> > > others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc. The errors occur when I try to mount
> > > the partition with the /boot directory. 'Complains about file
> > > system type 'linux_raid_member' This machine has worked for 3
> > > years flawlessly.. Can anyone help with this? Or point me to a
> > > place or link to get this fixed. Google doesn't help... I can't
> > > find a article/posting where it ended successfully. I have
> > > considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes stable, since this
> > > O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But useless now..
> > > 
> > You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's
> > instead of /dev/mdX.  That removes the possibility that the kernel
> > will change the mdX designations.
> > 
> > Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions.
> > 
> > -Rob
> > 
> > 
> Thanks for the reply, Rob.   What grub file do I change?
> grub.cfg?  grub *.map? I seem to have UUIDs for both disks and
> LVM partitions, change both? 
> 
> TIA, Jack
>
Whoops!! UUIDs for Not just disks, LVM volumes & RAID arrays..
Jack


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Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-14 Thread Jack Schneider
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:43:53 -0500
Rob Owens  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:23:11AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > 
> > I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
> > until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
> > used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from
> > a live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was
> > the names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives.
> > IE: /dev/md0 to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Strangely the
> > md2 array which I setup on the added drives remains as /dev/md2. My
> > root partition is/was on /dev/md0. The result is that Grub2 fails
> > to boot the / array. I have tried three REINSTALLING GRUB
> > procedures from Sysresccd online docs and many others GNU.org,
> > Ubuntu etc. The errors occur when I try to mount the partition with
> > the /boot directory. 'Complains about file system type
> > 'linux_raid_member' This machine has worked for 3 years
> > flawlessly.. Can anyone help with this? Or point me to a place or
> > link to get this fixed. Google doesn't help... I can't find a
> > article/posting where it ended successfully. I have considered a
> > full reinstall after Squeeze goes stable, since this O/S is a
> > crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But useless now..
> > 
> You might want to try configuring grub and fstab to use UUID's instead
> of /dev/mdX.  That removes the possibility that the kernel will change
> the mdX designations.
> 
> Use blkid to find out the UUID's of your partitions.
> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
Thanks for the reply, Rob.   What grub file do I change?
grub.cfg?  grub *.map? I seem to have UUIDs for both disks and
LVM partitions, change both? 

TIA, Jack
   


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Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system.

2011-01-13 Thread Jack Schneider

I have a raid1 based W/S running Debian Squeeze uptodate. (was
until ~7 days ago) There are 4 drives, 2 of which had never been
used or formatted. I configured a new array using Disk Utility from a
live Ubuntu CD. That's where I screwed up... The end result was the
names of the arrays were changed on the working 2 drives. IE: /dev/md0
to /dev/126 and /dev/md1 became md127. Strangely the md2 array which I
setup on the added drives remains as /dev/md2. My root partition is/was
on /dev/md0. The result is that Grub2 fails to boot the / array. I have
tried three REINSTALLING GRUB procedures from Sysresccd online docs
and many others GNU.org, Ubuntu etc. The errors occur when I try to
mount the partition with the /boot directory. 'Complains about file
system type 'linux_raid_member' This machine has worked for 3 years
flawlessly.. Can anyone help with this? Or point me to a place or link
to get this fixed. Google doesn't help... I can't find a
article/posting where it ended successfully.  
I have considered a full reinstall after Squeeze goes stable, since this
O/S is a crufty upgrade from sarge over time. But useless now..

TIA, Jack


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Re: Iceweasel Glitch ? Irritant! RESOLVED

2010-12-06 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:13:51 -0500
Paul Cartwright  wrote:

> On 12/06/2010 03:18 PM, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > How do I find out??? I have never consciously enabled a proxy.
> > Thanks, Bob
> 
> now I have to fire up my BLOATED iceweasel, when I have a perfectly
> good Chrome already open:)
> 
> ok, iceweasel- Edit-Preferences-Advanced. Network tab-Settings button.
> Make sure NO PROXY is checked.
> 
Thanks a TON, Paul, twas it.

Jack


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Re: Iceweasel Glitch ? Irritant!

2010-12-06 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:24:16 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Whenever Iceweasel starts it puts a login popup to a IP which
> > belongs to my ISP. Epiphany does not do it. 
> > Any ideas about this, and what to do?
> 
> Do you have a proxy configured in one but not the other?  It sounds
> like a proxy's login to me.
> 
> Bob
How do I find out??? I have never consciously enabled a proxy.
Thanks, Bob


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Iceweasel Glitch ? Irritant!

2010-12-06 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, folks
Running Squeeze, 2.6.32-5 and Iceweasel 3.5.15 - all up to date. The
prob:  Whenever Iceweasel starts it puts a login popup to a IP which
belongs to my ISP. Epiphany does not do it. 
Any ideas about this, and what to do?

TIA, Jack   


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Rfkill not fully working on Dell Mini 1012

2010-06-19 Thread Jack Malmostoso
Hello List,

I had a morning of terror with my Debian Sid on my new Dell Mini (v. 
1012). The laptop has a broadcom 4312 Wifi card that works with the 
module b43. I had to find the right combination of firmware and fwcutter 
to make it work reliably, but that's another story. I am running 2.6.34 
from experimental.

The multimedia keys on the keyboard work nicely: when I pressed the 
"antenna" button (F2) the Wifi was switched off. Running

# rfkill list

showed that Soft and Hard block were ON.
However, pressing the button again didn't do anything, and running:

# rfkill unblock all

only changed the soft block. Since that is the only "hardware" button 
available, and I have no Windows installed on the machine, I did the next 
best thing and ran a liveUSB with Ubuntu.
There I loaded first the b43 module, and the wifi connection was 
unavailable. Then I loaded the proprietary STA module and that worked, 
effectively unblocking the card.
Rebooting in Debian showed the card unlocked, and I could use the laptop 
normally.

I would like to file a bug against this behaviour, but I am confused as 
on whose fault is it: is it b43 (so file against the kernel), is it the 
firmware (so don't file), or is it hal?

Thanks for any advice and sorry for the long message.

-- 
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Linux User #264449
Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64


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Re: Wifi Can't Connect

2010-03-23 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:30:42 -0400
Mark  wrote:

> On 3/22/10 11:03 PM, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Hi, Mark
> > Have you got wpa-supplicant /installed/loaded ?
> > You need that for wpa access, I believe...
> >
> > FWIW
> > Jack
> >
> 
> Good question, Jack. I had not remembered that there was actually a 
> wpasupplicant package. I did have it installed. I just upgraded it, 
> rebooted. No change: still no wifi.
> 
> I think in my first post about this I gave a slightly mixed up
> account of what happens when I start KWiFiManager. It alternates
> every few seconds between "Ultimate Signal Strength" (full bars) and
> "Out of Range" (no bars). When it has full bars, The "Status of
> Active Connection" box says "Connected to network: [MY_SSID]". When
> it has no bars, it says "Searching for network: any". It persistently
> shows "Local IP: unavailable."  If I click on the "Scan for
> Networks..." button, it sees my SSID (and my neighbor's).
>  But the odd thing is that, in the "Status of Active Connection" 
> box, the "Access point" address shows a mac address that is the same
> as my broadband router's address, except for the last digit: the last
> digit of my router's mac address is 5, but KWiFiManager says it's
> connecting to an Access point address that ends in B.
> 
> When I run KNetworkManager, And click on the "Scan" button next to
> the SSID textbox, it sees no SSIDs at all -- neither in the map nor
> the details view.
> 
> This is killing me. The computer's networking is handshaking my
> router but not getting an IP. Can anyone help me figure this out?
> Below is the rest of my original post, for reference.
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
> I had wifi, now I don't.
> 
> I just upgraded my kernel (using aptitude) from 2.6.26-686 to
> 2.6.32-3-686 and followed that with "aptitude full-upgrade", which
> removed a number of packages (that I wasn't using anyway) because I
> had previously always used apt-get (and I understand the consequences
> of this). I also installed kde-minimal (version 4).
> 
> I know that the wifi was working for at least one session on the new
> kernel. But after a reboot, it stopped being able to connect. Alas, I
> do not know what I did in between. I was messing with aptitude
> without really knowing the consequences of my actions.
> 
> SYMPTOMS
> 
> Both when booting up and when trying things like "ifup wlan0" and
> "dhclient wlan0", I get the following response:
> 
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
> > >  DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
> > >  No DHCPOFFERS received.
> > >  No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> >
> When I open KWiFiManager, most of the time it sees my SSID and
> alternates between appearing connected -- i.e. green bars, good
> signal strength -- but with no Local IP, and an "Unavailable" Access
> Point; -- it stays like that for maybe 10-15 seconds, and then shows
> no connection.
> 
> CONFIGURATION
> 
> Basics: Dell Inspiron E1505, 2GB RAM. Running Lenny. Using
> repositories: lenny, testing, lenny-backports, lenny/updates
> (security), and debian-volatile.
> 
> I have a Verizon (Westell) wireless modem/router. My MacBook Pro is
> connected to it wirelessly with no problem. I use WPA authentication.
> My /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file reads (actual values not given here):
> 
> > >  network={
> > >   ssid="MY_SSID"
> > >   psk="MY_PSK"
> > >  }
> >
> My /etc/network/interfaces files reads:
> 
> > >  # This file describes the network interfaces available on your
> > > system # and how to activate them. For more information, see
> > > interfaces(5).
> > >
> > >  # The loopback network interface
> > >  auto lo
> > >  iface lo inet loopback
> > >
> > >

Re: Wifi Can't Connect

2010-03-22 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:23:23 -0400
Mark  wrote:

> I had wifi, now I don't.
> 
> I just upgraded my kernel (using aptitude) from 2.6.26-686 to
> 2.6.32-3-686 and followed that with "aptitude full-upgrade", which
> removed a number of packages (that I wasn't using anyway) because I
> had previously always used apt-get (and I understand the consequences
> of this). I also installed kde-minimal (version 4).
> 
> I know that the wifi was working for at least one session on the new
> kernel. But after a reboot, it stopped being able to connect. Alas, I
> do not know what I did in between. I was messing with aptitude
> without really knowing the consequences of my actions.
> 
> SYMPTOMS
> 
> Both when booting up and when trying things like "ifup wlan0" and
> "dhclient wlan0", I get the following response:
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 12
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 19
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
> > DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
> > No DHCPOFFERS received.
> > No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> When I open KWiFiManager, most of the time it sees my SSID and
> alternates between appearing connected -- i.e. green bars, good
> signal strength -- but with no Local IP, and an "Unavailable" Access
> Point; -- it stays like that for maybe 10-15 seconds, and then shows
> no connection.
> 
> CONFIGURATION
> 
> Basics: Dell Inspiron E1505, 2GB RAM. Running Lenny. Using
> repositories: lenny, testing, lenny-backports, lenny/updates
> (security), and debian-volatile.
> 
> I have a Verizon (Westell) wireless modem/router. My MacBook Pro is
> connected to it wirelessly with no problem. I use WPA authentication.
> My /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file reads (actual values not given here):
> > network={
> > ssid="MY_SSID"
> > psk="MY_PSK"
> > }
> 
> My /etc/network/interfaces files reads:
> > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your
> > system # and how to activate them. For more information, see
> > interfaces(5).
> >
> > # The loopback network interface
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > # The primary network interface -- This section commented-out on
> > 12/31/09, and got wifi working in the first place.
> > #allow-hotplug eth0
> > #iface eth0 inet static
> > #   address 192.168.1.24
> > #   netmask 255.255.255.0
> > #   network 192.168.1.0
> > #   broadcast 192.168.1.255
> > #   gateway 192.168.1.1
> > #   # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package,
> > if installed #  dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1
> >
> > # New DHCP Setup [WORKED UNTIL YESTERDAY]
> > iface eth0 inet dhcp
> > allow-hotplug eth0
> >
> >
> >
> > iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> > wpa-driver wext
> > wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
> > wpa-proto WPA
> > wpa-ssid MY_SSID
> >
> > auto wlan0
> 
> Trying something I found on the web, I edited
> my /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file by uncommenting the timeout line:
> > #timeout 60;
> > # NEXT LINE ADDED AS PER
> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=21520 timeout 100;
> 
> I've installed KNetworkManager, but I don't understand how it works,
> and adding my wifi network in the WiFi tab seems to do nothing at all.
> 
> I would appreciate any help anyone can offer!
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
Hi, Mark 
Have you got wpa-supplicant /installed/loaded ?
You need that for wpa access, I believe...

FWIW
Jack 


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Re: ACPI problem on linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 powering off

2010-03-03 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 20:37:28 +
campbell mcleay  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am running 64-bit Debian Squeeze with kernel
> linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-vserver-amd64, and when
> I initiate a shutdown to halt/poweroff the system, either within a
> Gnome session or on the console,
> it reboots instead of powering off. I can see what looks like a kernel
> oops error message at the
> very end of the shutdown process, and then it reboots (it is too quick
> for me to see the exact error).
> My suspicion was that ACPI was the issue, so I disabled it at boot
> with 'acpi=off', and indeed it no longer
> reboots when I issue shutdown to halt it, but I lose hyperthreading
> and it won't power off at all. I have
> used Ubuntu 9.04 and 10.04 (which uses 2.6.32 kernel) to test the
> hardware as well, and these shut
> the machine down with no issue. I would use another linux-image
> package, but there seems to be only
> one for Squeeze (aside from a vserver image).
> 
> Any suggestions on a way round this? I don't want to boot with
> 'acpi=off', as it won't shutdown and
> hyperthreading won't work.
> 
> Hardware is dual Xeon x5550 with 6GB ram and SSD hard disk.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Campbell
> 
> 
Hi, 

See>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15005 

FWIW

Jack


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What's wrong with the permissions?

2010-03-01 Thread Jack Knowlton
Hi all,

I am having permissions problems with my debian box and every solution I
have tried didn't change the situation.
I have a php application that has to read Maildir folders&files but fails
no matter how I set the permissions. Apache2 runs under www-data:www-data
and Postfix creates the Maildir under vmail:vmail .

dsrv:~# ls -alh /var/mail/virtual/domain.com/jo0atj50/
total 0
drwxrwsrwx 5 vmail vmail 120 2010-03-01 21:16 .
drwx--S--- 3 vmail vmail  72 2010-03-01 21:16 ..
drwxrwsrwx 2 vmail vmail  48 2010-03-01 21:16 cur
drwxrwsrwx 2 vmail vmail 320 2010-03-01 22:36 new
drwxrwsrwx 2 vmail vmail  48 2010-03-01 22:36 tmp


I have added user "www-data" to group "vmail"

dsrv:~# id www-data
uid=33(www-data) gid=33(www-data) groups=33(www-data),5000(vmail)

Yet when Apache2 tries to _read_ a Maildir file, it always fails. What am
I doing wrong?
Thanks.

-JK





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Re: Graphics Diag Query

2010-02-22 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:10:18 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell  wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:43:07 -0500 (EST), Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Stephen, thanks for the reply...8-)
> > I want to find out if the color distortions (smears on left side of
> > images) I see on the LCD are due to a faulty LCD or faulty graphics
> > chip.  I want to know if there is a diagnostic to help figure that
> > out. I want to place a message/s in the screen (legible) what jobs
> > are pending/finished as appropriate.
> 
> OK, so you're seeing strange distortion of the colors and you
> want to figure out if it is a hardware problem or a software problem.
> I see.  Well, the only suggestion I have is rather low-tech; and
> I'm sure you've thought of it already; but I would suggest installing
> some other graphical operating system, such as Windows 95, DOS/Win
> 3.1, etc. and see how things look then.  If you still see the smear,
> it's almost certainly a hardware problem.  But again, I'm sure you've
> thought of that.  Maybe someone else has a better idea, but that's
> all I know to suggest.
> 
> 
Thanks again, But no way to connect...8-(
The boot up screen is perfectly OK in black and white. Just need to
turn off colors, I think...
Jack


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Re: Graphics Diag Query

2010-02-22 Thread Jack Schneider
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:51:09 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell  wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:06:41 -0500 (EST), Jack Schneider wrote:
> >
> > Hi, All
> > Does any one know of a diagnostic tool to pin down a smeared LCD
> > screen? I have an old laptop i386, running lenny, up2date,
> > 2.6.26-2-486 kernel, which I want to take the load as a
> > parallel-port printer host. It runs a Neomagic NM2093 video chip. I
> > have checked the LCD display with lcdtest and all's well.  It seems
> > to display B/W terms at full screen, OK.
> > I have googled 'till I get running in circles.  
> > 
> > I am thinking about removing "color" from the display, pointers on
> > if/how to do that would be appreciated.
> 
> I am a native speaker of English, but I haven't a clue what you're
> asking.  What exactly do you mean by "pin down"?  What do you mean
> by "smeared"?  (I assume you *don't* mean that your child smeared his
> peanut butter and jelly sandwich all over it, but I don't know what
> you *do* mean.)  And if you're only
> using it as a print server anyway, who cares?  Would you be so kind
> as to explain in less techno-slang terms exactly what the problem is
> and exactly what you are trying to accomplish.  I have an old laptop
> too, with an LCD screen and a neomagic 2160 chipset.  So I'm familiar
> with the hardware.  But I still have no clue what you are talking
> about.
> 
> 
Stephen, thanks for the reply...8-)
I want to find out if the color distortions (smears on left side of
images) I see on the LCD are due to a faulty LCD or faulty graphics
chip.  I want to know if there is a diagnostic to help figure that out.
I want to place a message/s in the screen (legible) what jobs are
pending/finished as appropriate.

Thanks, Jack
ps sometimes it appears that peanut butter was smeared... red-blue-
green-pink-violet  peanut butter  etc


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Graphics Diag Query

2010-02-22 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, All
Does any one know of a diagnostic tool to pin down a smeared LCD screen?
I have an old laptop i386, running lenny, up2date, 2.6.26-2-486 kernel,
which I want to take the load as a parallel-port printer host.  
It runs a Neomagic NM2093 video chip. I have checked the LCD display
with lcdtest and all's well.  It seems to display B/W terms at full
screen, OK.
I have googled 'till I get running in circles.  

I am thinking about removing "color" from the display, pointers on
if/how to do that would be appreciated.

TIA jack   


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Segmentation fault query.

2010-01-31 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, all

I need some direction.  I am running Debian squeeze-amd64 and have
encountered a problem. On shutting down with kernel 2.6.32-trunk-amd64
after the system halt, I get a "segmentation fault" and hangs.
the system stays powered up. Booting with kernel 2.6.30-1 this does not
occur and the system shuts down normally.  I have a "trace" output but
it's beyond my understanding and not complete as it may be  scrolled off
screen.  

How and to whom should this be reported? What other info should I
obtain?  My syslog and messages seem to not be reporting it. as it has
"halted".

TIA Jack


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Re: Iceweasel repeatedly hangs for 5 seconds

2010-01-24 Thread Jack Dodds

To close this thread:

I removed the torbutton addon taken directly from mozilla.org and
installed the Debian torbutton package.  It works.  No more hangs.

Jack Dodds wrote:
> Hello Sun,
>
> Thank you for telling me about safe mode - I did not know about it.
>
> Sure enough, the problem seems to disappear in safe mode.
>
> I compared my profile with another user's profile.  That user had not
> noticed the "hang" problem.  The only difference in the profiles is that
> the other profile did not have Torbutton.  So I uninstalled Torbutton
> from my profile.  After 1 hour of use, I have not noticed the "hang"
> problem.
>
> Checking further, I found that I did not have Debian package
> iceweasel-torbutton installed on my system.  I must have installed it
> direct from the mozilla website, which may have caused the problem.
>
> After some further testing, I will install the Debian
> iceweasel-torbutton package and see if I can use it without problems.
>
> Thanks also to the others who commented.
>
> Jack Dodds
>
>
> Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
>   
>> I would suggest browsing in safe mode.  If the problem persists, file
>> a bug. If not, create a new profile and one at time  add the same
>> addons from your other profile until the problem shows up again.
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>
>   



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Re: Debian Live hangs on cd boot.

2010-01-12 Thread Jack Schneider
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:00:27 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell  wrote:

> On 2010-01-12 at 12:23:49 -0500, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > Hi, All  I have a debian live cd which starts to boot.  I get the
> > ISOLINUX 3.71 Debian-2008-9-06 Copyright notice. Then it just hangs-
> > cd active.  Disk is debian-live-502-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso  MD5
> > sums check out...Cd is on-top in bios boot priority.  Others,
> > sysrescucd, Ubuntu, Debian testing net-installer all boot fine. I
> > have tried other RW disks.  'may try CD-R disk if no one has a
> > helping guess...
> 
> You haven't said what your hardware is, and this is just a wild guess.
> But I have an old laptop which frequently hangs on cold boot from CD
> (i.e. boot from power-on).  Warm boot from an already running
> operating system (Ctrl+Alt+Delete) works fine.  Obviously, it's
> possible there's something wrong with the image or with that
> particular burn of the image. But try warm booting the Debian Live CD
> after booting something else first.  In fact, try warm booting from
> the hang of the cold boot. That is one possibility.  In the case of
> my laptop, the cold boot from CD problem appears to be a BIOS bug.
> 
> 

Stephen:
Thanks for the reply.  My hardware is a Supermicro X7DAL-E M/B a couple
of years old.  I burned the image using Brasero from an Ubuntu laptop.
I tried your suggestion - Warm Boot - deliberately  I probably had done
it before, without thinking, chasing this..

THX, Jack


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Debian Live hangs on cd boot.

2010-01-12 Thread Jack Schneider
Hi, All  I have a debian live cd which starts to boot.  I get the
ISOLINUX 3.71 Debian-2008-9-06 Copyright notice. Then it just hangs-
cd active.  Disk is debian-live-502-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso  MD5 sums
check out...Cd is on-top in bios boot priority.  Others, sysrescucd,
Ubuntu, Debian testing net-installer all boot fine. I have tried other
RW disks.  'may try CD-R disk if no one has a helping guess...

TIA  Jack  


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