Re: iptables; some IPs are getting through netmasks
On 23 December 2012 16:41, Mark Ford t447806929...@googlemail.com wrote:
Here is a shortened version of the output from iptables-save (full version
simply has more -A pests lines).
# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.8 on Sun Dec 23 16:24:43 2012
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [252417:278747603]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [255016:258290199]
:pests - [0:0]
-A INPUT -p tcp -j pests
-A pests -s 1.85.17.0/24 -p tcp -j DROP
-A pests -s 67.228.245.0/24 -p tcp -j DROP
COMMIT
# Completed on Sun Dec 23 16:24:44 2012
Here is the complete header from the spam email...
[snipped]
I would trust what you find in /var/log/{mail,exim} more readily than
Received: lines in a spam mail, no matter how correctly you think
you're reading them. I'd check there instead.
As an aside, I wouldn't block /24s like this myself. Use something in
protocol (i.e. configured in Exim), perhaps, and be /really/ careful
about blocking entire /24s. The collateral damage could be more than
you intended.
Cheers,
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Re: file systems
On 19 April 2011 19:45, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote: we are thinking of redoing our existing servers and workstations in june. our servers is low volume and run out of our home via cable. right now the servers are running freebsd and our personal machines use arch linux, but we'd like to unify everything onto debian because a) we've liked it in the past b) we like the social contract c) we appreciate the no-nonsense attitude about 'free' ++ to these. They don't get enough credit for being as important as they are, IMHO. we are contemplating the fs to use: ext4 (which we've used for a couple of years) Yes, this. Regardless of length of experience with it, I suggest having a good read through the entirety of http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt to check the data integrity options. IIRC they differ from ext3 in places. zfs (we've heard this is really good) It is nice - the iSCSI is especially useful, IME - but requires a separation of your storage systems from your non-storage (e.g. web, DB, etc) systems if you require Linux environments for that second group. Also, unless you go the NFS route, you'll need to layer a Linux FS on top of the exported ZFS block devices /anyway/, so you'd still need to choose which FS to use. FWIW, I'm finding ZFS-on-opensolaris/nextenta = iSCSI = ext4-under-KVM to be a decent solution. YMMV. btrfs (ditto - though it's still 'new' and 'lacking' features) Nope. Not production ready. Cheers, Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlkting-xb7olc8v0bkibzdwa9znms...@mail.gmail.com
Re: changing my e-mail address
On 16 April 2011 18:39, Pierre Frenkiel pierre.frenk...@laposte.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lisi wrote: quote To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. /quote Have you tried this? You don't mention it. And did you read my post? The question was not how to unsubcribe?, but how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe? What difference do you think there is between those 2 operations? Hint: none at all. It's curious that I got 5 replys, all about the PS, but not a single answer to my question ! Your question was boring as you self-answered in your original mail. Just do the damn unsubscribe/subscribe dance. If it causes you problems, please reconsider the wisdom of owning a complex bit of kit like your computer. Also, learn how to respond to people trying to help you with your questions whilst /not/ sounding like a git. If this is a secondary-language thing, hence you didn't otherwise realise it: your email, above, made you sound like a git. Stop that. HTH, Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikkhqchnr7gp1mwb+tknskpmlm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: HALF SOLVED!! :) - 2 encrypted VG's on 1 disk - HOW?
On 17 April 2011 12:49, johhny_at_poland77 johhny_at_polan...@zoho.com wrote: I half solved it!! :P Well done. As I believe you were previously informed, this is a mailing list for debian-specific traffic. Please use it as such. You may have better luck over here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimsy4rqnjuxe-fxost_rbgsaqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: User cannot set process priority nice --10 despite changes in limits.conf
On 17 April 2011 11:21, Sebastian Tarach star...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to allow user hlds to be able to start game server daemon with higher priority. Even though I've added fallowing line in /etc/security/limits.conf hlds - nice-20 I'm still getting starach@debian:/ nice --5 cat logfile nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied What could I have done wrong? Doesn't look to me like you're running the command as the user you specified in limits.conf. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktim570oohx04lbl_qfssx2wheht...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reformat/salvage old LaCie drive?
On 17 April 2011 19:55, Brian Flaherty b...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I have an old LaCie 500 GB hard drive. I opened it up last night and see that it is two 250 ATA/133 hard drives: one master, one slave on a single IDE ribbon connector. (Hope my words are right.) It is connected to my laptop via USB. (recent Debian Squeeze install on a Lenovo X201) How do I reformat and test if the drive is reliable? Don't. It's 8/9/10 year old technology which has already started to tell you it's going south. Just bin it. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=uOC4TpYdRMQ-6-2Zcyv-8=_6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: changing my e-mail address
On 17 April 2011 21:19, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Dear List, My cat, much enjoying this thread, would like to know: What please, referencing particular persons, is a 'git'? Tell it to have a look at http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git It's a predominately British insult. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimuq-zm4fbngn1ygswvegum8f7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to install FedoraUbuntu with encrypted VG's on one disk?
On 13 April 2011 23:43, johhny_at_poland77 johhny_at_polan...@zoho.com wrote: I installed a Fedora 14 first, then an Ubuntu 10.04. I installed them using dm_crypt/aes256/lvm, so i used encrypted VolumeGroups. ok. [snip] p.s.: i posted to Debian list too, because i don't think it's a Distro-specific question.. :\ I think you're wrong. Please use the appropriate lists; this list is for Debian-specific traffic. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktinor5xhsb2bpkbr5bcvpmz3_qy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: New to Linux
On 12 April 2011 16:34, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: another thing about times changing - virtuals are great. download some popular distros (don't limit yourself to linux either). i'd suggest debian, fedora, centos, ubuntu, and freebsd. then get virtual box and have fun. go, install, snapshot and then mess everything up. if you can't figure out how to put it back together again, revert to the snapshot. I suggest Debian, CentOS and a BSD are enough to get started with :-) No need to scare the chap off /that/ soon ;-) You'll need VMWare or VirtualBox (VBox is free but because it's not Oracle owned, it's licence might radically change without warning ... If you *really* want to make a project out of it, try Gentoo too, fair warning though, it can be time consuming. virtualbox, vmware, xen, hyperv, kvm, qemu, virtual iron (are they still in business?) They got borged by Oracle, IIRC, leaving them with at least 3 different virtual platforms: virtualbox, solaris zones, virtual iron. Ooo, and maybe one more whose name escapes me. They also bought up Q-Layer, who were *great* ... and then dropped it entirely. OVM - that's what I was thinking of. Oracle VM, a RHEL-based Xen product with a web UI. Not too shabby, but why would you /bother/? and i'm probably missing some others. the reason i just mentioned virtualbox is because it's easy. there is also proxmox which is a bare metal environment but that requires spare hardware and isn't as mature as virtualbox. per the source of virtualbox - oracle owns it. however, it is all under a gpl type license exept the usb driver which is close source. ISTR there are some more exceptions than /just/ USB, but can't recall them at the moment. I'd honestly not recommend an Oracle-owned product at this point. They're showing themselves to be too hostile to FLOSS to trust them. And while I /know/ virtualbox is good and useful, the (relatively small!) extra work required to get KVM+libvirt (i.e. virt-manager) going will repay you many times over for the greater control and understanding you'll have of the underlying system. IMHO. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikgqoxe-7ogrfxuj1mqot_gmyf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Your favorite bug tracking system
On 11 April 2011 09:31, Enno Gröper enno+deb...@groeper-berlin.de wrote: Hi, Am 11.04.2011 09:55, schrieb Frank Van Damme: 2011/4/7 Carlos Miranda Molina (Mstaaravin) mstaara...@gmail.com: http://www.redmine.org/ Integrate issues, wiki, etc. Very practical piece of software indeed, I have also used Trac which has more or less the same basic set of features (integration bugtracking-wiki-project management etc) and I consider Trac to be the more user friendly option (it accepts email in, in the release I used it was a not-hard-to-add-on feature). Redmine allows a lot more flexibility in roles though, you can also run multiple projects in one instance which is not possibly in Trac (need to create differenc instances + you can't have the same level in integration, pe. type #441 in a wiki page to link to bug in an other project). I'm not sure what you guys are talking about, when writing about email in and email ingestion, but redmine support controlling it using email (change issues, create issues). http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/RedmineReceivingEmails#How-it-works I wrote earlier in this thread It doesn't do ingestion out of the box, and needs fairly nasty ad-hoc scripting to do with any regularity. The link you posted, you may notice, doesn't address *any* of the tooling around email ingestion - just how it's done, once, on demand. I assure you, having *implemented* it for working Redmine setups, that my statement is correct. Redmine is far better suited to Web UI interactions from a known set of actors who you can beat the system's rules into with a stick. Perhaps it could be a problem, that it doesn't allow this for unregistered users. Yes, it does. It is an annoying thing to have to work around, but the scripts to deal with email ingestion do support unregistered users. It can be set up to create users on email ingestion, too, if you hit it hard enough. As above, though, it's not *nice*. It's not a priority for the Redmine devs. If there's enough demand (again, it's OT for this list, I recognise) I'll pop some scripts I wrote around email ingestion up on the Redmine wiki. They're not fool-proof, but they do work, I guess. I mean, no-one's /told/ me they don't work. By logging a ticket. Via email ... :-) Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktin4dm5q+xfhtxemzeyj7zzax_j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: When ram memory is critical ?
[Sorry for the toppost, but I can't be arsed to edit the
already-buggered quoting]
I'm not sure why you'd want to warn about systems using the full
resources you've provisioned them with, but if you are going to, you
probably want to make the test as light-weight as possible as you'll
presumably be repeating it frequently.
The output of free is fairly stable and unlikely to change. You want
the 3rd line, 3rd field (memory used)
pre
user@host:~$ free -m | awk 'NR==3{print $3}'
95
/pre
But that requires modification for each different server you
provision. Why not monitor the amount /unused/ and then spam your
phone at 3am when cron kicks off?
pre
user@host:~$ free -m | awk 'NR==3{print $4}'
392
/pre
But even if the tool output weren't stable, and you still had to
pattern match to discover the line you wanted, you could still avoid a
seperate grep process as awk can do it all:
pre
user@host:~$ free -m | awk '/buffers\/cache/{print $4}'
392
/pre
Regardless, I suggest you *collect*, *graph* and *trend* these
values, but don't alert or warn based on them. On the other hand, you
may dislike a good night's sleep.
Jonathan
On 8 April 2011 22:08, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
It should be '{print $3}'.
$ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 8059 6249 1810 0 20 3485
-/+ buffers/cache: 2743 5316
Swap: 15624 139 15485
$ free -m | grep buffers/cache | awk '{print $3}'
2743
On 04/08/2011 03:59 PM, Fabio DellaCorte wrote:
So i think the correct thing to do is free -m | grep buffers/cache | awk
'{print $4} is right for me to place a warning system that monitors the
RAM
.
2011/4/8 Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net
The actual used by kernel+applications is, I think, 371.
On 04/08/2011 02:53 PM, Fabio DellaCorte wrote:
OK! Thank you for the explanations. But raising this case, what is the
parameter to be controlled? And compared to the controls I mentioned
above which
of the two actually fit the occupation of RAM ?
2011/4/8 Stan Hoeppners...@hardwarefreak.com
Fabio DellaCorte put forth on 4/8/2011 12:13 PM:
root@debian-cq2:/etc/pandora# free -m
total used free shared buffers
cached
Mem: 8006 790 7215 0 210
208
-/+ buffers/cache: 371 7634
Swap: 22883 2 22881
You have 7GB+ free out of 8GB. And you're concerned with memory usage?
LOL
Why do you have 20GB of swap? Given your memory usage, assuming the
above is typical, and the fact you have 8GB RAM, I'm going to guess
you could likely get by with no swap device at all.
You have nothing to worry about. Unless of course this is an idle
state, and you run some gargantuan simulation app that eats all 8GB
when
launched. I doubt that's the case, as you'd not be asking this
question
if you used such an app.
From what you've provided, you don't need to worry about memory.
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Re: Your favorite bug tracking system
On 7 April 2011 21:06, Carlos Miranda Molina (Mstaaravin) mstaara...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote: I need a bug tracking system for Swift Linux (www.swiftlinux.org). I submit that this is somewhat OT for debian-user and should be marked as such or discussed elsewhere. http://www.redmine.org/ Integrate issues, wiki, etc. Nice tool (I (have) run it in a few places), but it has a real weakness when it comes to email. It doesn't do ingestion out of the box, and needs fairly nasty ad-hoc scripting to do with any regularity. Also, be aware that when sending email /out/, it can only have one emission address configured - globally. YMMV but that rules it out for some specific uses that I'd otherwise have considered it for. It's also, AFAICT, not high on the developers' list of things that need fixing as Redmine is [a] flexible project management web application, not a trouble ticket system or bug tracker in the first instance. HTH Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimkvabcpgduxjxg3itxgqkhbys...@mail.gmail.com
Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?
On 22 March 2011 13:06, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/03/11 23:56, Jonathan Matthews wrote: It looks to me (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cwebx) that perhaps the only reason gcc is /on/ your machine is due to aptitude pulling it down when you installed cwebx. Hence it knows that, as it satisfied the dependency (well, recommendation) initially, it should be fine to remove it now. Just tell aptitude you explicitly /want/ gcc and you should be good to remove cwebx. I'd be interested to see if aptitude install gcc ; aptitude remove cwebx achieves this directly - do let the list know You can try using -R (ignore recommended) Hmmm, I'm not sure that'd work here. Surely the recommendation has already been applied long ago and the state that's being reacted to, and which is leading to the auto-removal of gcc, is solely the fact that there would exist no packages installed that depend (or recommend:) on gcc. I may be wrong :-) Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikrB80LagQihgNqm89yXZhif-ZJ12rOO=+2a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?
On 22 March 2011 12:28, Charles Blair c-bl...@illinois.edu wrote: I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a system for documenting C programs. When I put a minus sign next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc. I definitely did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately. How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future sessions? It looks to me (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cwebx) that perhaps the only reason gcc is /on/ your machine is due to aptitude pulling it down when you installed cwebx. Hence it knows that, as it satisfied the dependency (well, recommendation) initially, it should be fine to remove it now. Just tell aptitude you explicitly /want/ gcc and you should be good to remove cwebx. I'd be interested to see if aptitude install gcc ; aptitude remove cwebx achieves this directly - do let the list know ... Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin3uz0-qrphcikzfgwgvue4u1aunpjrigvfz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: raid10 and lvm problem on new lenny install
On 20 March 2011 02:24, Jim Green student.northwest...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.gagme.com/greg/linux/raid-lvm.php That looks like an LVM1 article. Here's a readable one about LVM2: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lvm2/ With LVM2, there's no limit on the maximum numbers of extents per PV/LV. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=K0fDpyWeEjzGT=8iflk__ro9fko_vwa_nz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Question about mii-tool
On 14 March 2011 00:48, Daniel Bareiro daniel-lis...@gmx.net wrote: Hi all! Doing several tests with mii-tool, I'm noting that it works on some hardware but in others it does not. In all cases I'm using Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze with Linux 2.6.32 from Debian repositories. I'm not sure if this is 100% applicable, but AIUI ethtool superseded mii-tool for all purposes a while ago. I've certainly not used mii-tool in the last few (5?) years. It's possible that this is more a server-side thing (where one hopes to have better NICs, FSVO better), but if you can achieve what you want with ethtool, just use that. Cheers, Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin8f0807s37g36sgyw+o9poyw_r-qmxsupaf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: regular user can't umount automount drive
On 11 March 2011 06:32, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Howdy, Here's the option line from the auto.media file: /media/thingy -fstype=vfat,users,flush,rw,umask= :/dev/ipod I could have sworn this was working... I posted a while back and found out that the users option had to be in there. The option specified by mount(8)'s manpage is user, not users. I don't recall if that relates to the automounter at all. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimvcgg+thufbscwvtyzh5ghty+lbthpmfxgj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: VMware Workstation
On 3 March 2011 11:57, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: A few general comments on the thread: First, I'd recommend VMWare if you want to also buy their support - its really quite good. Good comment. *If* you have the dosh to flaunt on VMWare support and/or PS, and are set on buying something corporate, then do so. Personally, I'd choose KVM on the server these days. VMWare being EMC, you'll find there is *never* an end to the amount you could pay them. The services and licenses they offer are as deep as your pockets :-) Personally, what puts me off VMWare is - as others have mentioned - the license wrangling, but also the actual cost of support. In a former role, I had to go into a client and discoverpoint out that, because they made a hardware choice of X as opposed to Y before engaging with $myEmployer, the (minimum) cost of ESXi licensing actually *exceeded* the (5 figure) cost of their shiny new, fully-loaded Dell hardware. Yes, they didn't do their requirements gathering correctly but daaamn is VMWare expensive! Getting back on topic, to non-server/workstation, I'd recommend virtualbox like others on this thread. If you can get VMWare for free (site license/etc), or if you have very deep pockets, take a look. Otherwise - vbox. For server-side virtualisation - KVM. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinb_qbjtvkktt-crjay1zm1pf3adcybtkkju...@mail.gmail.com
Re: creating a pv guest Ubuntu on a Ubuntu desktop is failing on pv-ops Dom0 kernel
Tapas - As someone else already pointed out, this isn't an ubuntu mailing list. You probably want to retry your request here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimO=wxxjpxhb-jfwruwp_c_5e8oggroct5ov...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How do I get this dialog back?
On 1 March 2011 15:21, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: Hi, while upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze, I got this dialog: http://f.666kb.com/i/breb9xzqa8abc1ls7.jpg I am asking myself, how do I get this dialog back again (for example, when I want to add another service, which should be restarted, when libc got updated...). You don't need to get it back. It's just asking you during this install, given that I'm upgrading libc, which services shall I restart to complete the upgrade?. To add to this list, just manually restart the service now with service foobar restart or /etc/init.d/foobar restart. [OT] How did you get that image, with a camera? Looks like a screenshot of a putty session running on a vista machine to me. Jonathan -- Jonathan Matthews London, UK http://www.jpluscplusm.com/contact.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiktc-zcksyc5lh_uqzul8tojxomr1+rm7p+z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtual Hosts/Domains
On 3/8/06, Rich Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks up for a discussion of a ''canonical'' implementation of virtual hosts and/or domains? [snip] - vdomain-webmin? I'd say that it's a great idea in geneneral, but this last reseller-friendly addition would be very, *very* useful. I'd /love/ to delegate responsibility of my dad's domain to him :-) Is webmin the way forward, however? Last time I used it, I really disliked the interface - it felt quite non-standard and clunky. This was a while ago, however ... Cheers, Jonathan -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They don't like it.
Re: How to set time
David P James had the gall to say: Considering that the user is (1) on ALO and (2) using a Windows mailer (ALO it looks like) I have my doubts that the above is much help... Agreed. Does anyone else find it easy to filter out such obvious noise solely on where the text versus the header appears in mutt? On a related note, what's with all these LOA users asking about removing ALO a.r.t files? Text above is obfuscated a touch to avoid what I'm about to describe. I reckon it's a vicious circle - they google/$BIG_ISP_SEARCH_ENGINE for the phrase ALO a.r.t file and since - waay back - someone asked on debian-user about it and d-u is presumably a fairly well-respected source in google's eyes, they get pointed here. Cycle repeats itself, leading to more and more OLA-users making their way to d-u to ask that one question. I keep meaning to set up a simple Hello, user of $BIG_ISP. Here's where to go to get info on your a.r.t. files page and post a link to it in reply to future questions on this subject. Has anyone dealt with a mom/pop/mum/dad and actually *solved* this problem? Where /should/ they go for instructions? Please avoid the unobfuscated versions of the words ALO and a.r.t. in your reply! Cheers, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving to a dedicated host...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] had the gall to say: Hi all, [snip] Any experiences with other providers of decent non-managed Debian boxes with a monthly datalimit of about 100GB? FWIW, I find www.bytemark.co.uk to be very good. They provide UML machines for a very reasonable amount. I can't remember what their bandwidth charges are, but I do recall a conversation with someone who indicated that b/w is at cost, not for profit. I'm just a happy customer - I've no other relationship with them! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD+RW gone missing on moving to kernel 2.6.6
Graham Williams had the gall to say: My _NEC DVD+RW ND-2100AD, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive that is easily identified under 2.4.25 (as /dev/hdc) goes missing under my 2.6.6 kernel. dmesg has no hint at all of the DVD. This is my only IDE device (using a SATA hard drive). Is this a matter of finding the right module? The machine is sid, up-to-date. Just hit this problem myself. Here's what I did - let me know if it works: 1) Remove any hdc=ide-scsi lines from /etc/lilo.conf (grub? No idea...) and then run lilo as root. 2) # modprobe ide-cd 3) $ cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus ... and use the x,y,z triple that cdrecord reports, as in $ cdrecord dev=ATA:x,y,z other_options HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Viruses on lists
Paul Johnson had the gall to say: Derrick 'dman' Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Almost. murphy generates a bounce and sends it to the list manager (mailman, majordomo, ezmlm, etc. - I don't know what one murphy is running). The list manager then counts that against you in its determination of which addresses are invalid and need to be removed from the list. It takes quite a few bounces before you get removed, though. Does anyone know a definitive figure or rate here? My choice is to simply drop viruses. I don't expect to have any legit messages falsely identified as viral, and dropping the message simply removes waste from the network bandwidth and disk storage of the world. I see no need to push the bounce back at someone else, particularly since the offender is rarely the one punished in that case. Drop /after/ accepting? Would that not mark you (in the virus' eyes, anyway) as a potential target? What with viruses having their own builtin SMTP engines these days and hence knowing for sure what response was given to the SMTP session, is that not potentially inviting future, smarter viruses (with memories for this sort of thing) to hit you first? Which is why I reject at SMTP. Doesn't push a bounce back to forged addresses. I should have said - I've followed Paul's instructions on ursine.ca to set this up, and am consequently rejecting at SMTP time. I'm unsure as to the difference between accepting a mail and bouncing later and rejecting at SMTP time as far as murphy is concerned. (I'm fine with the general difference for normal mail.) Can anyone venture an opinion? Do both bounces (is it correct to call a 5xx reject a bounce?) count similarly negatively when working out who shouldn't be on the list anymore? Should I stop asking questions (sort of like this one?) inside other questions? Answers on a postcard, please ... Cheers, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Viruses on lists
Evenin' all. I've installed ClamAV+Exim4 to reject viruses at SMTP time. d-u's headers don't seem to mention anything about /virus/ scanning (as opposed to SpamAssassin), so I guess I'm ok asking this question here: The whole point of having virus scanning while the sender still has an open connection is a) to reduce email processing load on your system and b) to reduce bounces to forged headers - which must be sent if the email is accepted and only scanned later. I'm fine with (a) - I think that still holds - but is (b) incorrect when dealing with listmail? Since the mail has already been received and accepted by murphy, am I just pushing the sending of spoofed bounce messages one stage back up the email processing ladder? Is it an unfriendly thing to do to murphy - should I be whitelisting it instead? Any thoughts on this, or how to configure the exceptions inside Exim would be appreciated! Cheers, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No access but root
Pritpal Dhaliwal had the gall to say: no one else has a clue? come on guys ( and girls).. its the debian users list.. If I wanted to start doing fresh install when things get messed up.. I could stick to windows... help me out please Please remember you're talking to /volunteers/ here. Also, please learn not to put your replies at the top of email. As to your problem, I believe you've hit the fact that, if a script file does an action that is not permitted, then the individual line that causes the problem is not automatically echoed (giving you a clue about how to debug it) but instead just says bash: scriptname: error message. In other words, I believe that your problem is caused by a line /inside/ /etc/bash.bashrc, not the permissions on the file itself. Have a look through, and see if there's anything that you wouldn't expect a normal user to be able to do. As a last resort (you /should/ be able to fix this!) post the contents of the file here for people to look at. Cheers, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: devfs.rules vs. udev.rules
csj had the gall to say:
What's the relationship between /etc/udev/devfs.rules and
/etc/udev/udev.rules? With the latest udev upgrade (0.024-6), I
lost my video for linux devices. Before the upgrade they were in
/dev/v4l/*.
Sure enough I found that the rules for them had disappeared from
/etc/udev/udev.rules. They're now in /etc/udev/devfs.rules. As
a hack (rather than disabling udev entirely), I copied the
relevant entries from /etc/udev/devfs.rules to
/etc/udev/udev.rules.
I've just installed udev, and I found that moving devfs.rules to
udev.rules (after backing udev.rules up ...) solved the problems I had.
I think that devfs.rules is a compatability ruleset that creates /dev as
if devfs were running. I can't see any harm in this, so I've left my
box running with these rules active. I don't know what rules the
native udev.rules file propagates - my advice is not to use them until
it settles down a bit!
Cheers!
jc
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Imap imap-ssl pop3-ssl
[Sorry for the cross-post - I think it's applicable to both -isp and -user.] I need to offer imap, imapssl and pop3ssl services. FWIW, imap would be localhost only, but -ssl services would be publically accessible. My reading thus far leads me towards Courier-imap with Exim 4 backported to stable so I can interface with ClamAV, but feel free to point out something important that I've missed. Do I need to have a different instance of the server running for each protocol? i.e. one listening on each port that the three services use as standard? Is there a server that would do the job with just one instance listening on all three ports? Would there be any advantages or disadvantages to this? I'm thinking locking/concurrency/that-sorta-thing. How do you deal with this situation? Are there any gotchas I need to know about? I'm guessing that using Maildirs will alleviate many of the problems that mboxes would create ... Any pointers/suggestions/cluebats appreciated! jc -- Have a nice cup of tea and a biscuit. Fifty-five million Britons can't be wrong. Ooo - jammy dodgers!! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Taking notes
Fairly OT for d-u, but I'm wondering what people use to take notes for courses. I'm studying T171 with the Open University (it's a compulsory course on the way to their BSc in PeeCees), and a lot of the assessment is writing up what you thought about various resources (websites, reports, etc) that they throw at you. The important thing is the note-taking and subsequent writing up - /not/ the opinions you actually express in the notes. So - I'm looking for packages which let me keep a structured record of what I was looking at, where it was, when I looked, and what my thoughts were. I've found hnb, but that's about it. Any suggestions? Would a custom (v.v.v.v. simple) DTD be an idea? What emacs packages let me input the notes into a valid XML file adhering to my simple DTD in a pointy-clicky sort of way? Is this not the way forward? Cheers! jc -- This signature no verb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xfree setup: does AGP require anything special?
Doing a bit of advocay, I've managed to convince a friend to try Debian on his newly put-together PC for a bit, while he saves up the £165 WinXP tax. Unfortunately, I'm not doing a great job. I did a netinstall from debian-installer (12-01-04, FWIW, and it *rocks*!), but can't seem to get X to come up at all. I'll happily post any config files here, but (off the top of my head) the problem is that X bombs after a couple of seconds with no screens found. He's got a NVidia FX mumble in there. If I could get the damn thing to work with even the vesa driver, I'd know where to start - but I can't. I've got mdetect, read-edid and discover installed (all before apt-get installing xserver-xfree86), but this doesn't seem to help. So - o any AGP gotchas I should look out for? I've only installed on a PCI system before .. o What's the lowest common denominator driver that I should be starting with to get over the absolutely-no-GUI-accessible hurdle? o What files can I post here to help you help me? TIA - I really need some advice! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Woody--Sid - any current gotchas?
Evenin' all. I'm about 2 hours away from getting my SOs new (well, third-hand) desktop machine up and running. Because she's a fairly non-technical sort, I want to give her the friendliest DE/WM I can - and I'm guessing that means something Gnome 2.4-y, which I'm only really going to get in Sid. (This isn't the main point of this email, but am I right here?) The install CDs I have are woody.r0, and I'm wondering if there any dist-upgrade gotchas in Sid at the moment? Also (it's been so long since I did it last) is it recommended to go Woody-Sarge-Sid, or is Woody-Sid preferred? Finally, is a net install a good/bad/indifferent idea? I'm fairly keen to try it for the first time, so any pointers would be appreciated! cheers, jc -- Please don't CC: me - reply on list instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need advice on fixing my home lan
Paul E Condon had the gall to say: I have a small LAN in my home. I need some advice on tuning it. I've started working on a project wherein I move large files (3GB) between two Debian boxes. This is a slow process. I would like to be sure that it goes as fast as is reasonable. I think all my LAN cards are claimed by their makers to be 10/100, but for some this might be marketing hype. All my cables are 'CAT5'. So, some questions: How do I determine whether my lan is passing data at 10 or 100 MHz? I'd set up some sort of plain (i.e. not scp) data transfer test between the hosts. A temporary internal ftp/http server should do fine. Then do a wget http://my.other.local.ip/a.large.file/; and see what the average data rate is. ~1 meg per second == 10Mbps connection, ~10 megs per second == 100 Mbps connection. Cheers, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer icon
Sebastian Kapfer had the gall to say: On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 04:30:15 +0200, Zeeblanc wrote: I have a Lexmark z 11 printer.Until I was connected to aol 9.0 optimized it worked fine the icon was on my task bar. Can anyone enlighten me why _Windows_ users keep posting their [CENSORED] questions to this list? As I said on deb-vote recently (obviously a bit OT ... :-), I /strongly/ believe these mails to be email-gathering ploys. You'll notice that many of these 1- or 2-liners are very general, with many possible ways of diagnosing/solving the problem. I believe that this is to increase the number of replies from helpful PeeCee users who think finally - someone with a problem that *I* can help with!!. I'd suggest tagging them as spam and letting bogofilter/spamassassin/$FILTER get rid of them. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:15:35PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 18:21, Jonathan Matthews wrote: [snip] Which ADSL modem o has an ethernet port o works with BT broadband o offers most bang per buck I have combined the modem and firewall by installing a Bewan adsl card, which has Linux support: http://www.bewan.com/bewan/products/adsl/bwadslpcist.php Cheers for that - it looks rather nice. Hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions. Are there any issues with it being internal, as with winmodems? Does it steal much cpu (I hope to put this in a P60)? The PDF techspec says standard ATM driver - does this take much figuring out? Is it a kernel configuration issue? What spec PC do you have it in, and how many other NICs are there in it? Does it provide any other services? How loaded does it get? Thanks! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?
After a couple of years of um-ing and ah-ing, my dad's finally got round to installing broadband. Specifically, BT broadband (here in the uk). He's asked me to slip in a 486 class router/firewall inbetween his Windows machines and the ADSL modem, so I'd much rather go with a modem that has RJ45 (ethernet) connections over any USB-type port. I'm sure there are some debian users out there who can help me make this choice - Which ADSL modem o has an ethernet port o works with BT broadband o offers most bang per buck where bang/buck is measured ... however you want. The baseline is get connected, but I'd be interested to hear any other pluses that different models provide. So - any thoughts? Cheers! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I make quality PDFs from LaTeX?
Hi all.
I've tried googling lists.debian.org, but I don't get anything coming up
that seems to address my problem.
I'm trying to get a nice looking PDF from a latex document. I'm using
the normal article class, with no other packages loaded. I'm using a
couple of symbols that I wouldn't expect to find on a keyboard (namely
\times and \equiv) but apart from that I don't think I'm using anything
unusual.
I'm using pdflatex to output the PDF, and I'm aiming for print quality,
not screen quality, if they're not related.
I'm seeing a variety of problems in the .pdf output, but latex by itself
doesn't exhibit any of them when I create DVI output.
The problems I'm seeing include:
o Missing characters
- lowercase a, fagawdsake!
o Wierd quoting
- the source document has
''a quote''
- the .dvi has
a quote - but with 66s and 99s (as I'd expect)
- however, the .pdf has
\a quote''
o Missing symbols
- \times
- \equiv
Generally, not a great looking document.
I'm hoping that someone can say just install the 'foo' package, and
you're set, but I'd be willing to do a fair bit of digging around if
anyone thinks it'll help. On the other hand, I hope that maybe there's
another font package that needs installing? Prrrlease?
I'm running up-to-date sid with tetex-{base,bin,extra} installed. No
manual configuration's been done beyond apt-get's efforts.
Thanks for any help!
jc
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Re: Mouse Pointer Problem
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:56:41PM -0300, Guilherme A. Mendes wrote: Hi everyone, I have a big problem with my mouse pointer: suddenly it loses the focus, for example if I put the pointer under an icon, the pointer is not exactly under that icon, it's some pixels left. I'm looking for the solution for a long time and anyone can figure out what is happenning (I know 2 or 3 people with the same problem). I dont know if I can explain better, it's a strange bug! Does anyone know what is happening? You've got a Trident graphics card? Google for trident xfree swcursor, possibly with my domain in there and you should come up with a solution. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reliably transferring a large amount of data from one machine to another over DSL
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 12:17:08AM +0100, Shri Shrikumar wrote: Hi, I have two machines connected to the internet using DSL. What I would like to do is backup one machine to the other. The files are compressed and encrypted and then transferred usinc SCP. Atleast, thats what its supposed to do. It does the first two steps fine but the transfer is regularly unsuccessful - it aborts with connection lost or similart (cant remember exact error message). The procedure is run from cron. Could it be to do with the CMs renewing their leases? Even if the IP doesn't change, perhaps the connection tracking forgets their connection after a new lease is acquired ... ? Any ideas on a reliable way to transfer 1 or 2 gb of data over dsl ? How about setting up an rsync server on the machine to be backed up, and cron'ing a get job on the machine that hosts the backups? HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pipes, dpkg and default screen width (sort of)
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 10:15:03AM -0400, charlie derr wrote: Hi, Often I find myself executing the following: $ dpkg -l '*foo*' to find all packages with foo in the name. When instead I look for only installed foo packages as follows: $ dpkg -l '*foo*' | grep ii the output is truncated, and if there's a foo package with a particularly long package name, I won't see the full name. Is there an envrironment variable I could set to prevent this? Or some other workaround simpler than redirecting the first command to a temporary file (and then using grep on that)? try COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l ... HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woddy-proposed-updates vs. security
Just a quickie - Is there any difference between woody-proposed-updates and security.debian.org, for a stable machine? In other words, if I have stable and security in sources.list, am I missing out on /anything/ that's been updated by not having proposed-updates in there too? In other, other words, does proposed-updates carry non-security related updates that wouldn't be distributed on security.d.o? Any replies on-list, please ... :-) Cheers! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simple bash loop problem ...
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 03:03:27PM +0100, David selby wrote: Hello, I am writing bash a bash sed script, it has been going suprisingly well. I need a loop to count 9 times the variable n to the count .. [snip] for N in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 do echo $N done I'm sure someone will point out a more elegant first line than this. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-user, PASSIVE MONEY GENERATOR!!!
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 02:02:45AM +, Staver wrote: [snip] JUST GO TO http://www.euroinvclub.com AND DEPOSIT NOW!!! [snip] $ wget http://www.euroinvclub.com 2/dev/null /dev/null $ grep as index.html td bgcolor=#788298centerbThis Account Has Been Suspended/b/center/td Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible. $ Anyone else get warm fuzzies when they see this? :-) jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cut command not working as expected
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:54:59PM +0100, David selby wrote: I need to get the first two file names from a directory ... If that's the spec, then I'd do ls | head -2 and that'd give you the first two files, unless you have 'ls' aliased to something else (ls -C, perhaps ..?) My code directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column) works perfect and gives me ... 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 20030614Jun14.tar.gz 20030613Jun13.tar.gz 20030612Jun12.tar.gz 20030611Jun11.tar.gz 20030610Jun10.tar.gz 20030609Jun09.tar.gz 20030608Jun08.tar.gz 20030607Jun07.tar.gz 20030606Jun06.tar.gz 20030605Jun05.tar.gz 20030604Jun04.tar.gz 20030603Jun03.tar.gz 20030602Jun02.tar.gz 20030601Jun01.tar.gz 20030531May31.tar.gz 20030530May30.tar.gz 20030529May29.tar.gz 20030528May28.tar.gz 20030527May27.tar.gz 20030526May26.tar.gz 20030525May25.tar.gz 20030524May24.tar.gz 20030523May23.tar.gz 20030522May22.tar.gz 20030521May21.tar.gz 20030520May20.tar.gz 20030519May19.tar.gz 20030518May18.tar.gz 20030517May17.tar.gz 20030516May16.tar.gz 20030515May15.tar.gz 20030514May14.tar.gz 20030513May13.tar.gz 20030512May12.tar.gz 20030511May11.tar.gz 20030510May10.tar.gz 20030509May09.tar.gz 20030508May08.tar.gz 20030507May07.tar.gz 20030506May06.tar.gz 20030505May05.tar.gz 20030504May04.tar.gz 20030503May03.tar.gz 20030426Apr26.tar.gz 20030419Apr19.tar.gz 20030412Apr12.tar.gz 20030405Apr05.tar.gz 20030329Mar29.tar.gz 20030322Mar22.tar.gz 20030315Mar15.tar.gz 20030308Mar08.tar.gz 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of thinking this should be easy ... So you mean the first two files from each triple? That's not what your ls -r --format=single-column is going to give you, I'm afraid. cut -d' ' -f2 $directory Notwithstanding what I've just said, I'd do the following instead of that line: echo $directory | cut -d' ' -f2 The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say that the white space between .gz 200... may not be space but may have a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII for a file yet to check this out. No idea, sorry. Have you any reason to believe that the filenames have wierd characters in them? I am a relative begginer at learning bash ... Don't worry - there's a definate ah HA point when it clicks :-) HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Networked sound - any ideas?
Hi all. I've got a few machines on the internal LAN that I'd like to network the sound on. Only one of them is connected to the hi-fi, but they all have sound cards in. I've had a look at Esound and ARTS, but never had any luck with implementing a system-wide solution that my non-techie partner can just use by changing the hi-fi amp input selector to aux and firing up xmms. So - does anyone have any ideas and/or suggestions and/or experience with this sort of thing? Any help much appreciated, but if we're talking preferences, then I'd like it to be multi-user safe so that when two clients use it then it mixes the sound OR drops one silently on the floor - no force the second client to hang until we can get a lock problems. And finally, if it were possible to keep traffic low, that'd be nice. None of the clients really has the horse-power to encode high-quality oggs in realtime, but I imagine that there's a just try to /halve/ the bandwidth - don't work /too/ hard option out there somewhere ... Anything, anyone? Cheers! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Networked sound - any ideas?
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:32:25PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 07:58:21PM +0200, Andreas Schulz wrote: what's about setting up a sound server (streaming )on each machine, and the one with the hifi-plug joins the streams ?? Any suggestion on the package(s) to use for such a solution? Speaking as the OP - seconded! Are you talking icecast, or something like that? The whole idea (for me, anyway) of running a sound server on the hifi machine is that I can offload some of the processing overhead onto the server machine. The clients are 550/600/700Mhz boxes, so I'm trying to leave them as free as possible. Wouldn't running something like an icecast server on each client (so to speak) box defeat this aim? Yes - I know I didn't mention this in the OP :-P Also, I 'spose should mention that, while I /like/ the Esd idea of wrapping up /dev/dsp for all child processes of a specific early-init-time task so that all attempts to access /dev/dsp automatically use Esd without knowing it deep breath, I have heard that it can be a performance bottleneck if you have lots of processes. Has anyone any experience of this or have I been misinformed? Cheers! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Plw
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 12:50:36PM -0700, frosty frees wrote: Hi there, u wont know me, but im wondering if you can take five minutes out and help me out. [snip] Preaching to the converted, I guess, but I strongly suspect this to be email-address gathering spam. Reply off-list at your own risk. jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with sqwebmail login (repost)
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 02:49:58PM +0200, Sasa Babic wrote:
/* Sorry if this is double post. I'm not sure if it got to the list (seems
* not). */
Debian stable sqwebmail.
I must be doing something wrong, because I'm not able to authenticate trough
sqwebmail interface. Searched through Google already, but of no avail.
/var/log/syslog:
Jun 15 14:08:47 hygia webmail: authdaemon: s_connect() failed: Connection refused
[snip]
Still, no success with login. What should I look for?
Total guess - /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}?
HTH,
jc
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Strange iptables behaviour (success/failure depends on presence of harmless logging line)
[ SUMMARY: Why does adding a harmless logging line to my iptables script let traffic pass (the desired behaviour) that is otherwise stopped? ] I'm having problems doing port forwarding through my old 486/25sx NAT box here. The only reason I mention its spec/age is that I'm having difficulty seeing what the issue is if it isn't a timing one. I've attached my firewall script. Any general or non-related comments are welcome, but the specific issue I have is that (after adding some forwarding lines to enable me to bypass the rather nasty it's for performance reasons, not for security http proxy at work so that I can connect to my home ssh server) the success or failure of the extra iptables filters seems to depend on whether I have the following line commented out or not: $IT --append drop-and-log --jump LOG --log-level info --log-prefix Firewall: where IT=/sbin/iptables, of course. When it's commented out, all external traffic (e.g. pinging www.google.com) doesn't return, but when it's active the traffic passes fine. As it should. The four lines (1 logging one, as above, and 3 forward port 443 through into the lan ones) are marked with # comments immediately before them for your ease of identification. I've included the whole file (it's only 3kb) because something this strange probably means I've fscked up somewhere /else/. Can anyone throw me a fricking clue - PLEASE? Cheers! jc PS Yes, I realise that I don't have to have the internal server running on port 443, but it's late and I've run out of coffee ... #!/bin/bash # # your system's details go here IT=/sbin/iptables INTIP=192.168.0.1 INTIFACE=eth0 INTNET=192.168.0.0/24 EXTIP=$3 EXTIFACE=$2 DNS_SERVERS= # what policy shall we follow when we've run out of ideas? POL=drop-and-log # tell the kernel what we're going to be doing #echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_always_defrag echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/$EXTIFACE/rp_filter echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/$INTIFACE/rp_filter # set all chains to DROP - we'll never reach these ordinarily, # but they'll be useful when packets coming in while this # script is running, and the rules aren't all in place $IT --policy OUTPUT DROP $IT --policy INPUT DROP $IT --policy FORWARD DROP # flush all chains, all tables $IT --table filter --flush $IT --table nat--flush # delete user chains $IT --delete-chain # create new chains $IT --new-chain drop-and-log $IT --new-chain int-in $IT --new-chain int-out $IT --new-chain ext-in $IT --new-chain ext-out # start adding rules # drop-and-log chain # LOSE THE # AT THE START OF THE NEXT LINE, AND EVERYTHING WORKS # FINE!!! #$IT --append drop-and-log --jump LOG --log-level info --log-prefix Firewall: $IT --append drop-and-log --jump DROP # input chain $IT --append INPUT --jump ext-in --in-interface $EXTIFACE $IT --append INPUT --jump int-in --in-interface $INTIFACE $IT --append INPUT --jump ACCEPT --in-interface lo $IT --append INPUT --jump $POL # output chain $IT --append OUTPUT --jump ext-out --out-interface $EXTIFACE $IT --append OUTPUT --jump int-out --out-interface $INTIFACE $IT --append OUTPUT --jump ACCEPT --out-interface lo $IT --append OUTPUT --jump $POL # forward chain $IT --append FORWARD --jump ACCEPT --in-interface $EXTIFACE --out-interface $INTIFACE --match state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED $IT --append FORWARD --jump ACCEPT --in-interface $INTIFACE --out-interface $EXTIFACE # LINE ADDED #1 $IT --append FORWARD --jump ACCEPT --in-interface $EXTIFACE --out-interface $INTIFACE --protocol TCP --destination-port 443 --match state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED $IT --append FORWARD --jump $POL # ext-in chain #for PROTO in UDP TCP #do # for IP in $DNS_SERVERS # do # $IT --append ext-in --jump ACCEPT --protocol $PROTO --source $IP --destination $EXTIP --destination-port domain # done #done $IT --append ext-in --jump ACCEPT --match state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED # LINE ADDED #2 # accept connections to the ssh server running internally $IT --append ext-in --jump ACCEPT --protocol TCP --destination-port 443 $IT --append ext-in --jump $POL # ext-out $IT --append ext-out --jump ACCEPT --source $EXTIP --destination ! $INTNET $IT --append ext-out --jump $POL # int-in # nasty hack to firewall off di's laptop, # except for routing to the 'net. $IT --append int-in --jump $POL --source 192.168.0.129 --destination $INTNET # standard int-in chain $IT --append int-in --jump ACCEPT --source $INTNET $IT --append int-in --jump $POL # int-out $IT --append int-out --jump ACCEPT --destination $INTNET $IT --append int-out --jump $POL # masquerade stuff going out on the external interface $IT --table nat --append POSTROUTING --jump MASQUERADE --out-interface $EXTIFACE # LINE ADDED #3 # forward traffic to bigdaddy $IT --table nat --append PREROUTING --jump DNAT --protocol TCP --destination $EXTIP --destination-port 443 --in-interface $EXTIFACE --to
Re: startx problem
On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 05:08:14PM +0300, yaron wrote: Tran Tuan Anh wrote: Hi all, I've just installed Debian, but cannot bring the window system up. When I run startx it gives Fatal server error: no screens found. I am using Philips 107S monitor, Video adapter: GeForce2 MX, 64 MB Could anyone tell me how to set this up? Thanks a lot! Tuan Anh Yeah, RTFM. Useful, really useful. Tran, try this: man XF86Config-4 If it's more technical than you're used to - try again! Come and ask again if you've /really/ tried to work it out. People here aren't all as rude as the last answer you got, but they're not a hand-holding community - you get what you pay for :-) Hope this helps, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdm vs xdm
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 11:09:08AM +0200, Mark Annandale wrote: Hi guys This is probably a stupid question, but here goes. At the moment I boot into KDE using xdm. How do I change my setup to use kdm instead. I changed the line in /etc/X11/default-display-manager from xdm to kdm, however this then requires a startx to boot into kde. One way of doing this is to remove xdm. I'm sure others will point you to more satisfactory methods. # apt-get --purge install kdm xdm- Note the - after xdm - it says to remove the package even though you've specified an install command. The --purge is just there for tidyness - leave it out if you might reinstall xdm and want to keep its config files around in the interim period. Hope this helps, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X screen shifts right !!.
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:34:58PM +0100, Dave Restall - System Administrator wrote: Hi, I'm having an irritating problem with Debian 3.0 on Intel. I'm using olvwm on top of XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1. (it is over 12 months old). Hardware is on board Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 0). Machine runs fine, just a standard install, nothing special. However from time to time (and I suspect it's xscreensaver related) I am unable to move the mouse cursor to the far left of the screen (about 5%), I can move it to the far right, in fact it goes off the edge of the visible area. Top to bottom is all fine. I have tried resetting olvwm from inside the system but the only certain way to cure the problem is to close X _AND_ reset the box. If you don't reset, the problem is still apparent when you reload olvwm. I have worked through the problem, simply by moving the mouse cursor to the right of what I want to select and clicking. If I am lucky and manage to catch the keyboard/mouse at the right time (I think this is when xscreensaver is just about to start a new sequence) then the cursor reverts back to its normal operation. The best way I can think of the problem is that the 'virtual' screen has been offset to the right of the physical screen by about 5%. Everything else remains the same, none of the applications move. Has anybody else seen this ? I've stfw and can't find anything. Unfortunately, the problem is not easily repeatable. Used to have this myself. Solution seems (in that doing this solved it AFAICS) to be putting the SWCursor line in your X config file. Here's my compete section - Section Device Identifier Trident Cyberblade 7i Driver trident Option SWCursor on EndSection HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: buying a cd writer
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:01:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Yes, agree, I have an old 12x lite on and a newer 40x. Works fine on both windoze and debian. I'm also useing a Plextor 48x, very nice. And a old Sony 12x and a Teac scsi 12x, also very nice. I'm useing scsi emulation on everything exept for the Teac ofcourse:) . The good ting about scsi emu is that when you have a burner and a cd/dvd you are able to copy cd's on the fly. I've always wondered about this. Is it the case (as a local PC shop assistant tried to convince me recently) that having the reader and burner on the same IDE interface means that copying CDs is faster? As though the reader can put the data on the wire and the burner read it directly, without it having to go reader - ide bus - cpu (or mainboard) - ide bus - writer. Totally aside from this, how /do/ I copy a CD directly (in my case, from /dev/dvd to /dev/cdrom)? Can I do something like $ dd if=/dev/dvd | cdrecord - assuming that all of cdrecord's options are set correctly in /etc/default? Any caveats for audio CD versus data? cheers, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limit a process's CPU usage?
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:26:54PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote: Hi List I'm running [EMAIL PROTECTED] on my laptop, but the near 100% CPU usage results in my processor fan constatly being on. Is there a way on telling [EMAIL PROTECTED] to use the CPU at no more than, say 30%? I have already set it to nice 19, but this affects only the priority, so that an other process can take over the CPU more easily, this does not reduce CPU load. I think this might fit the bill - http://www.tls-technologies.com/CPU/cpu-main.html Any good? jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
name conflict: ud / ud-ldap
I've just noticed that man ud-ldap gives the same manpage as man ud, which is also the name of the uptime daemon package and binary. The ud-ldap manpage says that it represents the binary ud, but I know from another debian box that both root and users can execute ud to get a summary of their highest uptimes. Tab-completing on ud without the ud package installed expands to ud-ldap, so it's not a binary name conflict, just a minor glitch in the ud-ldap manpage. I think. Is this something that is catered for in the installation of packages, or is it a conflict for which I should file a bug? If the latter, which package should it be under? Neither ldap-utils nor ud have any bugs associated with this ... Running mostly testing a little unstable. jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, bailed with the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I need to do to complete the upgrade? FWIW, it's advised to do update sources.list to testing apt-get update apt-get install apt dpkg tar ( ... any others anyone?) apt-get dist-upgrade ... rather than just a straight update; dist-upgrade. In this case, what does /another/ apt-get dist-upgrade do? jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard drive dying?
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:16:28PM -, Andrew Pritchard wrote:
I've been looking through the logcheck on one of my machines, and I've seen
a lot of these types of messages:
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
SeekComplete Error }
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 {
UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3994439, sector=63232
Mar 24 17:14:51 orion kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:01 (hda),
sector 63232
Does this mean my drive is dying? I've not had any problems with the machine
till now.
I'd tend to say yes - get your backups done now!
Can you tell from the logs if there was a hard start date, or did
the errors just start to trickle in? How often are they occuring?
jc
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Re: I need a little help
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 04:00:43PM -0700, Didier Caamano wrote: Is not that I don't want to share or soimething like that, is just I have some scripts that need to be part of the web page code but they compromise in some ways the security of the site and the privacy of those who are part/members of the organization. As a result, I was wondering how could I hide the code, or the part of the code that I don't want my visitors to see. I see now that there is no way, or at least with apache. But I still need to hide at least those path for the scripts that could compromise the site. The problem you're having is thinking that it's anything to /do/ with Apache - it's not! Even if you manage to hide the scripts, you're still going to come down to a single problem: if the scripts are destined to be run on the client - on the user's machine, not your server - then someone /will/ get hold of the source to them. So I'd suggest that the question then becomes how can I write these scripts in a way that they don't compromise the security of the site/server/whatever? The simple - but totally useless - answer is don't trust the client. Why useless? Well, it doesn't tell you about /how/ to do it, just /what/ to do. That's all I can tell you, but I'm fairly sure it's the way you should be going. Remember - if your scripts can pass back information to your servers from the client machine, then anyone malicious can pass back carefully crafted data to take advantage of your servers. You /have/ to assume that this will be done so as to make sure that it has as little affect as possible! By the way, thank very much to you guys for your answers. Have a nice day. Didier. jc [CC'd you because - I don't know why - I just get the feeling that perhaps you're not subscribed :-] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse/X
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:06:16AM +, Olivier wrote: Quoting Paul M Foster : -- was [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mar 12, 2003 at 10:59:50 -- I'll give you the solution someone gave me on my system. I'm using a Trident Cyberblade i/1 video card, so YMMV. That's quite interesting because my video card is a Trident Cyberblade i/7 ... Same here ... Go to your XF86Config-4 file (in /etc/X11) and find the section pertaining to your video card. Within that section, add the following: Option SWCursor on What I was told is that this causes X to position the cursor, rather than the video card (which apparently gets it wrong). Naturally, restart X afterward. I will investigate this way and test a little (since the problem only appears from time to time) before reporting the results. I missed the start of this thread, but if it's X thinks I'm clicking Zcm to the $LEFT_OR_RIGHT of where my mouse cursor actually is (where Z=1.5 and LEFT_OR_RIGHT=left for me), then this advice is correct. I used to see the problem at least once a day (only solution was a reboot, though I learned to mentally adjust the cursor position and carry on regardless :-) but haven't seen it at all since adding the SWCursor line (as detailed above) to my X config file about 1 month ago. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Possibly OT] can't I turn off message delivery?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 09:54:05AM -0800, linux learner wrote: Like it says at the bottom of every message: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Okay *MY BAD*, it was ambiguous perhaps. How do i turn off message delivery without losing my posting privilages? Witness the occasional bit of spam getting through to the list - /everyone/ has posting rights, as it's not a subscribers-only list. You can safely unsubscribe and still post here, though I believe that you'll miss out on the most rewarding part of being here - reading interesting looking threads and helping out as your knowledge grows. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla stops accepting typed input
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 12:40:51PM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer wrote: I'm having an irritating problem with Mozilla. After what appears to be a random length of time (often very short, eg, after one entry), it stops accepting typing in, for example, the address box, or in a google text input area. I have to kill that instance and start another to get it to accept typed input. Clicking on links still works normally. Does anyone have any ideas? I've thought that perhaps I'd remove a config file and let it reconfigure, but I don't see any obvious rc files - 'locate mozillarc' only gives /etc/mozilla/mozillarc, which has only one line. Nothing obvious pops out from my ~/.mozilla directory - there's a binary file in there called appreg, and two folders - /fonts, and /my_logon_name; the latter only has the rather mysteriously named folder /b3nzixf2.slt, which has lots of stuff relating to bookmarks, cookies, etc, but nothing seems to stand out as possibly corrupted. Nothing I've looked for in Google has turned up any clues, so I'm turning to the list... I'm running testing, kernel 2.4.20, X 4.2.1 with an Athlon XP1500+, 512 MB RAM and an nVidia GeForce2/MX-400 64MB video card. I have been bitten by the AMD-AGP issue, but this seems to be pretty much under control with the 2.4.20 kernel (it was a problem through 2.4.18). Please hold suggestions that I use a different browser; I know that (and I've used various), but I would like to get this Mozilla problem fixed because I like its many features (popups, cookie and login management, eg). Well, I think you've just found another feature :-) Recent builds (can't remember how long ago it started) of Mozilla have included a type-ahead feature, roughly translating to the find-next feature in, say, lynx. It's loaded with the same key too - / - and I haven't personally found a way of telling Mozilla (Galeon, really) forget that it's in type-ahead mode. For now, I find lots of pressing of /, Enter, and other keys can flick it out of type-ahead. HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Onboard rtl8139 works in 2.2 kernel but not in 2.4 kernel, please help
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:07:22PM +0100, PeterG wrote: Jonathan Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 11:07:10AM -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote: Hi, [snip rtl8139 problems] No idea if this is feasible here, but my favourite way of solving 8139 problems is to put a decent nic in the box (Intel EtherExpress, Tulip, LinkSys - maybe, etc.) and ignore the PoS RTL. Seriously - drop £20-30 on a well thought-out nic and you'll not go far wrong :-) Sorry if that's not a possibility in this case, but it's the simplest and best way to deal with it! Cheers, jc Hi, this cant´t be the solution. I´m suffering and going crazy about this problem. I have a 3com 3c905b! [Please don't top-post] I wasn't addressing the problem of the nic working in 2.2 but not 2.4 (I've had this myself with a few RTL8139's), but the more general problem of using a RTL8139 at all. Friends don't let friends use Realtek nics! IIRC, the OP had a problem with which driver (rtl8139 vs. 8139too) to use - or if he didn't, he'd find that problem around the corner - which I don't think is your problem, seeing as neither driver relates to your card at all. So - what problem are /you/ having? peter jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SpamAssassin weightings - am I missing something?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:39:49AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 11:31:02AM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: SPAM: EXCUSE_16 (-0.3 points) BODY: I wonder how many emails they sent in error... SPAM: EXCUSE_14 (-0.2 points) BODY: Tells you how to stop further spam It seems strange to me that these two reasons should /decrease/ the probability of the email being spam. They do. Hence minus points instead of adding them. I think we're talking at cross purposes - I meant I find it strange that the excuses cited should be taken as reasons for the mail to be less likely to be spam, not any other reading. Were you perhaps reading it differently? -- jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SpamAssassin weightings - am I missing something?
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 03:36:09PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: Jonathan Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think we're talking at cross purposes - I meant I find it strange that the excuses cited should be taken as reasons for the mail to be less likely to be spam, not any other reading. Spamassassin default scores are set using a genetic algorithm[1]. Basically, there's a large corpus of spam and non-spam, the scores are set at some default value, then modified by the algorithm until they accurately categorize the spam in the test corpus. [snip] Yes, Joey's already put me straight about upstream using a GA to determine the default weightings. I was replying (without enoguh context) to someone who I'd managed to mislead with my poor grammar :-) Cheers! jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt-get, downloading a single package
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:31:39PM -0500, Radek Zajkowski [Deb] wrote: What would like a command to apt-get look like if I wanted to download a single package. # apt-get install package_name This might pull in some extra packages. If you're hoping to avoid this, I'd suggest you don't, as apt-get only pulls in the minimum required to install the one packge you /actually/ asked for. What is it you're really trying to do? jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Setting up network
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:32:27AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: Hi there: Untill now, I only got online using a dial up connection. Now i am going to dormitory, and in order to get online I have to connect to my dormitory's LAN. I can setup the network using the following two commands: ifconfig eth0 my.ip.add.ress up route add default gw my.gw.ip.address but it is so frustrating to issue these commands whenever I reboot my computer. I know there are ways to automate this proccess and there are progrms which setup the network on each boot. But I am not able to find out how. Can anyone please help? Take a look at /etc/network/interfaces try adding an entry like this: (don't touch the lo entries!) auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address your.ip.add.ress netmask your.ne.tm.ask #probably 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0 network your.net.work.address broadcast your.broad.cast.address gateway your.default.gate.way and then you'll find that it comes up and down when you turn your computer on and off. You can even take it up and down manually while the computer's on with ifup eth0 and ifdown eth0 HTH, jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SpamAssassin weightings - am I missing something?
Quick Spamassassin question: I've got SpamAssassin 2.43 installed, and it's working well. However, I noticed the two lines quoted below in the altered body of some spam that it caught recently: SPAM: EXCUSE_16 (-0.3 points) BODY: I wonder how many emails they sent in error... SPAM: EXCUSE_14 (-0.2 points) BODY: Tells you how to stop further spam It seems strange to me that these two reasons should /decrease/ the probability of the email being spam. I know that the weightings attached to different rules are user-definable, so I'm not asking how do I stop this behaviour - I can easily go and redefine the weights. I'd just like to get some confirmation that these weightings are wrong. It's the stock install of SpamAssassin in testing, with no alterations made to the config at all. Should I file a bug, change my own weightings or go away in shame, having made a fool of myself publicly? Cheers! -- jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Re: SpamAssassin weightings - am I missing something?
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:19:17AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Jonathan Matthews wrote: [snip] I'd just like to get some confirmation that these weightings are wrong. It's the stock install of SpamAssassin in testing, with no alterations made to the config at all. Should I file a bug, change my own weightings or go away in shame, having made a fool of myself publicly? The deal is that spamassassin's scores are generated using a genetic algorithm. They breed scores against a corpus of known spam and non-spam, starting with random scores and mutating them up or down, then seeing how that does and letting the winning mutations thrive. The aim is to get as few false positives as possible while still catching as much spam as possible of course. So the scores are not something hand-tweaked by a human. What happens sometimes is it seems that making a score negative reduces the number of false positives, while not catching any less spam, at least in their body of spam. And the SA guys, rightly or wrongly, trust their GA to get it right, and leave these negtive scores in. I have mixed feelings about this, but it seems to work. Thanks Joey - I was sure there was /something/ behind it, but I had no idea a GA was used upstream. Seems almost overkill, but if it works ... Think I'll let their best guesses take precedence over mine :-) -- jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to find out apt-get's reasoning
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 05:34:12PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:05:36PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: The more likely cause of this behavior is the Replaces field of kdelibs-data. I think apt-get will automatically try to install on dist-upgrade any package that claims to replace an installed package. I really hope not. That would be a misinterpretation of Replaces, which on its own simply means that some files from the named package(s) have moved to the package containing the Replaces field. Replaces in combination with Conflicts or maybe Provides, possibly ... Well, the 'Replaces' theory sounds much more reasonable to me than the 'Depends' theory. No packages were being upgraded on OP's dist-upgrade so the depends of every other package on his system must remain constant. In order for a depends to cause a new package to be installed, it follows that there was a package that somehow got installed with an unsatisfied 'Depends'. I don't know how this could happen without the OP knowing what was going on[ie he had been using dpkg --force-depends]. It's still confusing me, as I'm getting kdelibs-data installed with a dist-upgrade, and removing it doesn't force any other packages out too. The three-liner that Travis posted earlier in this thread produces no output (and I'm not quite sure enough of what it does to work out if there's a simple typo/thinko in there). Another suggestion that came up earlier was to use aptitude, examine the package and then look at the Packages which Depend on kdelibs-data line. This showed only one package (kdelibs4) which was not installed. I've had a download.kde.org site in there prior to being able to get GNOME 2.2 under testing, which might have resulted in some weird dependancies. I don't mind /having/ them, though, It'd just be nice to /see/ them! All in all, a bit puzzling :-| Any suggestions? Any packaging command incantations that'll spit out any installed package even /mentioning/ kdelibs-data? I've having a go, but am getting nowhere, fast ... -- jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to find out apt-get's reasoning
Having just installed the Gnome 2.2 backport, I'm trying to drop kde from my box totally. Never liked the underline the desktop icons thing anyway[1] :-) I thought I'd got it all out, but witness the following: bigdaddy:/home/jaycee# apt-get dist-upgrade -u [snip] The following NEW packages will be installed: kdelibs-data The following packages have been kept back gnu-smalltalk imagemagick libcurl2 liblcms1 liblcms1-dev libmng-dev libmng1 libpng12-0 libpng12-0-dev libpng3 libwmf0.2-7 mpeglib tetrinetx 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 13 not upgraded. I'm not asking anyone to tell me why my particular mix of sources is doing this, I'm wondering more if there's a grep-available or grep-dctrl invocation that might tell me which *installed* packages *depend* on kdelibs-data. Yes, I know kdelibs kdelibs4, but neither of them is installed. Any takers? Cheers! jc -- [1] Joke. JOKE! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Taking over your desktop, one box at a time
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 02:08:57AM -0500, Patrick McFarland wrote: This is probably offtopic for this list, but can everyone download http://freshmeat.net/projects/debian_gel_logo/ (Debian Gel/Aqua Logo Background) and tell me what they think of it? heh - have had it as my b/g for a week or so now. V nice. Only concern would be to perhaps have DEBIAN centred or L-or-R aligned, as opposed to almost left aligned. Alternatively (and this would get my vote, cause of where my fluxbox slit is located - top left, vertical), have the text going from the top right downwards - hella cool. cheers, -- jc -- $ cat .me/contactdetails/home [listmail] $ cat .me/contactdetails/work [listmail] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd 'which' behaviour - not finding shell script [SOLVED]
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 10:53:27AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
nate wrote:
Jonathan Matthews said:
Here's a transcript from a shell session.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $PATH
~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls ~/bin
just a guess but I say your problem is there. The shell did not
expand the ~ when setting the path.
Perhaps it was in quotes?
Perhaps both:
It /was/ in quotes in .bash_profile (I'm sure I'm using the stock potato
.bash_profile), and also had ~/bin rather than $HOME/bin.
I've corrected both, though I'm slightly worried that the quotes were
there for a reason - perhaps to cater for spaces in directory names?
Obviously not a great idea, but would 'PATH=$HOME/bin:$PATH' do this?
Would it let you have, say, $HOME/binary files in there without
barfing?
Anyway, for all reasonable paths, it's working.
For the list archives, changing the line
PATH=~/bin:${PATH}
to
PATH=$HOME/bin:${PATH}
seems to work.
If you have the double quotes in there is up to you - see any replies to
this post to get the opinion of people who know more than I do.
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Odd which behaviour - not finding shell script
Here's a transcript from a shell session. Can anyone explain why the which line doesn't find the script when both tab-completion and running it do? jaycee@bigdaddy:~$ echo $PATH ~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games jaycee@bigdaddy:~$ ls ~/bin firewall-up.ipchains jc.disconnect jc.mail.newplan oggbitrateaverage x firewall-up.iptables jc.getwww jc.ssh-agent-start old jc.background jc.hdparm jc.template run.and.log jc.connectjc.mailogg2cd run.on.kanyon jaycee@bigdaddy:~$ ls -l ~/bin/ogg2cd -rwxr-xr-x1 jaycee jaycee114 2003-02-21 17:04 /home/jaycee/bin/ogg2cd jaycee@bigdaddy:~$ which ogg2cd jaycee@bigdaddy:~$ #GRR According to which's manpage, it examines all the directories in $PATH, and doesn't reply on a previously generated index. So - what gives? TIA, jc -- $ cat .me/contactdetails/home [listmail - contact removed] $ cat .me/contactdetails/work [listmail - contact removed] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Odd which behaviour - not finding shell script
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 05:50:03PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: [snip] According to which's manpage, it examines all the directories in $PATH, and doesn't reply on a previously generated index. s/reply/rely/ jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCI graphics cards recommendations
Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend/warn me off any PCI graphics cards that are still available at retail? I've googled a bit, but can't find any info written in the last year or so, or any relevant to X4.x FWIW I'm running X4.2, with a 15 CRT and a K6-III/550Mhz. I'd be looking to try Quake I/II/III (or as far as the K6 will let me go), and general desktoppy stuff. I'd like to have the facility to run in as high a resolution as possible at a reasonable refresh rate (where reasonable is, I spose, 65Hz). Thanks in advance, jc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X whacking monitor
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:51:53PM -0500, Mike M wrote: [snip] This is also known as the Trident 9880 chip. It is on a Jaton 107AGP card. [snip] I might be swapping out the Trident video cards for something else if the problems persist. Mike M. Mike - I think the prevailing wisdom when I enquired about this chip was get another card! It's a joke of a chip, with the only advantages being hardware functions that aren't (yet) available in linux. Something like video units or 3d something-or-others that are just dead silicon under linux. Yes, it works. Just not very well. If it wasn't soldered onto the d*mn motherboard, I'd have it straight out of there. If you have the option, because it's on a card, just dump it and get something decent. As far as I recall, it was being touted for mobile use because of integrated video stuff and low power - not differentiators that you're /really/ looking for in a desktop system, so $DEITY only knows why it's on my mobo! Grr. -- jc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Re: muttrc parse error - why??
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:17:20PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: Hi all - I'm having a problem with my .muttrc config. When starting mutt, it barfs over the line send-hook ~b [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr From: Name Surname [EMAIL PROTECTED] complaining b: not supported in this mode. What's wrong with it? Can I not use ~ notation in a send hook? The online mutt manual gives the example of send-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would suggest otherwise ... As the manual says, when evaluating one of send-hook, save-hook, fcc-hook or message-hook: Mutt allows the use of the search pattern language for matching messages in hook commands. This works in exactly the same way as it would when limiting or searching the mailbox, except that you are restricted to those operators which match information mutt extracts from the header of the message (i.e. from, to, cc, date, subject, etc.). I was trying to match on stuff that wasn't just in the header. Thanks to those who made suggestions. -- jc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
muttrc parse error - why??
Hi all - I'm having a problem with my .muttrc config. When starting mutt, it barfs over the line send-hook ~b [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr From: Name Surname [EMAIL PROTECTED] complaining b: not supported in this mode. What's wrong with it? Can I not use ~ notation in a send hook? The online mutt manual gives the example of send-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would suggest otherwise ... Cheers for any help! -- jc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: muttrc parse error - why??
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:08:57PM +0100, Jens Kubieziel wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:17:20PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: When starting mutt, it barfs over the line send-hook ~b [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr From: Name Surname [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ^ Delete the '' and the Space. Have done. Same error occurs. The line is now send-hook ~b [EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr From: name surname [EMAIL PROTECTED] and mutt tells me that b: not supported in this mode. Grr. The online mutt manual gives the example of send-hook ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] my_hdr from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would suggest otherwise ... Take a closer look at manual. ;-) Believe you me, I've spent many long hours at work looking at the manual - that's why I've posted here, since I simply can't see what's wrong with it! Has anyone any ideas how to say to mutt If I'm writing a message where [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears /anywhere/ in the body or headers, then set the From: line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -- jc PS Is it just me, or has the mutt-users mailing list dropped off the face of the earth in the last few weeks? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Preload Openoffice.org at X startup
Hi all - anyone got any hints on preloading Openoffice.org when X starts, sort of like the galeon -s option ... ? It's great, n'all, but a bit of a pig to start on my 550 K6-3! Failing any built-in, background server type functionality, would cat oo-binary-I-use-most /dev/null in my .xinitrc be of any /real/ use? Thanks for any suggestions! -- jc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Practical differences between Netgear models
Evening all - I'm looking to take my home network up to 100Mbps, and I wondered if anyone could give me a clue as to the difference between a couple of netgear models that I've seen advertised at a fairly decent price (~35UKP+tax, I think) I'm looking at the FS105 FS108, versus the FS608. The datasheets just don't give me much, except the number of ports and other /physical/ attributes. Are there any real, practical differences between these models that I should be aware of? The model I get will not be public facing in any way, so I believe that security, e.g. ARP spoofing, won't really be an issue. Having said that, you probably know more than I do ... in fact, I'd bet on it :-) Many thanks, -- jc PS how /do/ you spell won't? wont? Grr. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - use brain to mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:26:25PM +0100, Alex Polite wrote: Here are the requirements: 1) Must be able to maximize window to available space a la enlightenment. 2) Must support multiple sequence key bindings a la emacs. 3) Must be fast. 4) Must be faster. Thanks everyone for all the input. I've installed blackbox. I doesn't meet requirements 1 and 2, contrary to what someone in the thread said, but it does meet 3. I'll stay with it for a couple of weeks. 1) Try Full Maximisation or Maximise over slit in the config menu. Can you describe a situation that would explain this better, if I've misunderstood? Try fluxbox, for a different take on the blackbox idea. I prefer it solely as it has a a better name. -- jc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: address book for mutt
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:34:47PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:52:11PM +1100, Sam Varghese wrote: On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:51:28PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh spake thus: i have recently migrated from windows to linux. currently i use woody 3.0. in windows i used outlook and one of the important portions i will like to carry over in linux is the address book. i have converted ms outlook addressbook into csv format. it has several headings - first name, last name, work tel, home tel, etc. i want to know is there anyway i can port it into linux and integrate it with mutt? if not, can someone suggest a solution? If it's Outlook 97, you can use the script available here: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/lookout/ sad - it is outlook 2000. but as i said, i already have the data in csv format - fairly universal? and how do i integrate it with mutt? Look at abook for a simple addressbook written for mutt. Its manpage says that it can use the --convert option to import different formats, including csv files. It's not graphical, flash, fancy, and doesn't use the mouse, but it works - sort of like mutt, in that respect :-) Also, take a look at the lbdb package - it might be of interest to you. I don't use it personally (yet), but have heard good things about it from others on this list. Hope this helps, -- jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Playing sound over the network
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Michael Schulze wrote: So, is there a way of getting /dev/dsp (or whatever) to be forwarded over the network, so that I can play stuff locally with apps not having to know that any jiggery-pokery is going on? i once used esound (Enlightened Sound Daemon) to forward sound over the network. i.e. xmms comes with a output plugin for esound. Thanks Michael, but I'm really looking for something not tied into a gui, not needing any userspace programs to even know it's there. Maybe a kernel patch, or summat. Don't mind if the server box is running something hefty, but I'd like to keep things tight and lean on the client box ... Any takers? -- jc It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phpgroupware and php4
Does anyone know how to convince an apt-get install phpgroupware not to remove php4, php4-pgsql and phppgadmin and install them with php3 based packages? Here's the apt-get log: Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following extra packages will be installed: libc-client2001 libiodbc2 php3 php3-cgi php3-cgi-ldap php3-imap php3-pgsql phpgroupware-admin phpgroupware-api phpgroupware-core phpgroupware-preferences phpgroupware-setup slapd The following packages will be REMOVED: php4 php4-pgsql phppgadmin The following NEW packages will be installed: libc-client2001 libiodbc2 php3 php3-cgi php3-cgi-ldap php3-imap php3-pgsql phpgroupware phpgroupware-admin phpgroupware-api phpgroupware-core phpgroupware-preferences phpgroupware-setup slapd 0 packages upgraded, 14 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 4639kB of archives. After unpacking 13.1MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort. Can I have phpgroupware and php4 running happily together? cheers, jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: phpgroupware and php4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 03:17:57PM -0400, Erik Mathisen wrote: Try apt-get install all of the php3 files, but replace the 3 with a 4 I think I tried this a while back and it worked. Erik -- Erik Mathisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://erik.mathisen.us On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 08:15:03PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: Does anyone know how to convince an apt-get install phpgroupware not to remove php4, php4-pgsql and phppgadmin and install them with php3 based packages? Here's the apt-get log: Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following extra packages will be installed: libc-client2001 libiodbc2 php3 php3-cgi php3-cgi-ldap php3-imap php3-pgsql phpgroupware-admin phpgroupware-api phpgroupware-core phpgroupware-preferences phpgroupware-setup slapd The following packages will be REMOVED: php4 php4-pgsql phppgadmin The following NEW packages will be installed: libc-client2001 libiodbc2 php3 php3-cgi php3-cgi-ldap php3-imap php3-pgsql phpgroupware phpgroupware-admin phpgroupware-api phpgroupware-core phpgroupware-preferences phpgroupware-setup slapd 0 packages upgraded, 14 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 4639kB of archives. After unpacking 13.1MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort. Can I have phpgroupware and php4 running happily together? cheers, jc Thanks Erik - that's perfect :) Some apt-get this package isn't available, but here's a nice one instead cufuffle, but all was fine after doing what apt-get asked. Cheers! jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lite-ON LTR-32123S cdrw - any successes?
Hi - just wondering if anyone has had any luck using a Lite-ON LTR-32123S CD rewriter. I've only found one reference to it in a linux context, and that was on linux-kernel - where no-one replied to a mail asking about how to deal with some errors when booting/using it. Sorry - not online as I write this, but it's the /only/ mail at MARC with LTR-32123S in the body :) I'd like to get this, as it seems to have good performance at a damn good price, but only if it can write nicely under linux. TIA, jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto kill old screen sessions?
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:04:07PM -0700, justin cunningham wrote: Hello, who shows some old screen sessions but ps aux doesn't show the associated pts/x so I can't simply kill them. Screendump will show the output but depends on the session name for further use. I know I can reboot but there must be a better way. Please reply to the email address since I'm not currently on the list. thank you, Justin Justin - Try screen -list to show you all the screens that are on the system. Ones that say Detatched need you to do screen -r screen id, but ones that are still Attached need a screen -rd screen id, where screen id is related to the information you find on each line (Can't remember it offhand). HTH, jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:24:28AM -0700, Kevin Buhr wrote: Damien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem must have occurred often enuff to other people, IMHO, but I can't find the solution online. My 'wall-clock' (as xscreensaver calls it in the error messages) keeps jumping ahead -- then back, semi-randomly. It seems to do so by always the same amount(?): @ 1 hr 11 minutes. I assume you aren't running an NTP daemon and that there are no messages in the logs about the time being stepped forward or back. Does @ mean approximately? Is it closer to one hour, eight minutes, and 16 seconds? That would be 4096 seconds, and a most suspicious number of seconds to be jumping. Does it jump back and forth between two values, or does it jump several times in the same direction (so it quickly becomes many hours off)? If it's jumping continually back and forth by 4096 seconds, I'd guess you have a bad SIMM. One bit (which just happens to be where your kernel is storing the time-of-day clock) isn't being reliably set, and you see jumps forward and backward every 20 or 30 times (seconds) the kernel bumps the seconds counter. If this is the case, you might try swapping SIMMs around. However, I'd suggest labelling their original positions very carefully. If the problem does disappear, you want to be able to get back to where you can reliably reproduce it and eliminate the offending SIMM. I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard. I saw this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand of mobo. No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure it'll appear. As I recall, there was no solution or workaround - the board simply reports the wrong time every so often. It's a bug. jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote: Jonathan Matthews wrote: I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard. I saw this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand of mobo. No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure it'll appear. But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but not why a running system would suddenly shift time. I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering the symptoms from the l-k thread. Here's what I found from l-k. Not the thread I was originally thinking of, but might fit as well. Y jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:43:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote: Jonathan Matthews wrote: I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard. I saw this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand of mobo. No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure it'll appear. But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but not why a running system would suddenly shift time. I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering the symptoms from the l-k thread. Here's what I found from l-k. Not the thread I was originally thinking of, but might fit as well. Oops. Here's the link: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=102348147820343w=2 jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem: wall-clock jumping like Mexican bean
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:45:22PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:43:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0500, Rich Puhek wrote: Jonathan Matthews wrote: I think it's possibly a dodgy RTC on the motherboard. I saw this exact complaint come up on linux-kernel a while ago, and someone mentioned that it was specific to a certain brand of mobo. No URLs for you, I'm afraid, but if you google a bit, I'm sure it'll appear. But I thought that the RTC was ignored after boot? If so, a bad RTC would explain a clock that comes up bad on boot every now and then, but not why a running system would suddenly shift time. I might be using the wrong terminology - I'm just remembering the symptoms from the l-k thread. Here's what I found from l-k. Not the thread I was originally thinking of, but might fit as well. Oops. Here's the link: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=102348147820343w=2 And another one. The 1 hour 11 minutes (I think ..?) described in the OP is obviously a known issue. Hope this helps. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=102212413728493w=2 jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passing io/eth params to 8319too driver
I've got a known-good (well, known-crap-but-known-to-work) Realtek 8139 based NIC that is absolutely fine under kernel 2.2, with the rtl8139 driver, but hangs the box solid if 8139too is used, under 2.2 /or/ 2.4. Not a problem under 2.2, as I've just been using rtl8139, but that driver doesn't seem to be available for 2.4 in the vanilla kernel.org 2.4.18. I'm guessing that, under 2.4 a) I have to use 8139too Since the hang occurs at boot immediately after Configuring network interfaces: with no errors reported: b) it's the driver's probing of other io addresses that's causing the hang. Note that (b) is, of course, very probably, wrong. So, to cut to the chase: how do I pass the io and irq values to the driver? Please note that I'm aware of having (after an update-modules) the two lines alias eth0 8139too options 8139too io=0xe00 irq=12 in /etc/modules.conf and also the line append=ether=12,0xe00,eth0 in /etc/lilo.conf. Neither one appears to do much good. Any 8139too-under-2.4 users out there able to lend a hand? cheers! jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone using ulogd?
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:30:24PM -0600, Gary Hennigan wrote: Alan Poulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wednesday, May 01, 2002, 2:42:15 PM, Gary Hennigan wrote: Okay. I lied a bit here. I compiled from source but I used dpkg-buildpackage, so it applied the Debian patches. This time I compiled just the straight source, without dpkg-buildpackage and using the usual ./configure and now ulogd is working, pumping out iptables output to /var/log/ulogd.syslogemu like a champ. Apparently there's some problem with the Debian patches to ulogd. So I installed the Debian package and just overwrote /usr/sbin/ulogd with the version I compiled and it's working and *finally* iptables is putting it's crud into my ring buffer. So, does this mean that you got it running? I'm wanting to install Ulogd for the same reason, to get the firewall messages out of dmesg and (hopefully) syslog. So that way, I can review the firewall messages by themselves without sorting through other messages. I am currently running kernel 2.4.17, but I downloaded the sources for IPTables and Kernel 2.4.18, then followed the instructions for patching IPTables, and have now just completed the compile of the kernel.. What command do you use in your firewall script to enable ULog? Yep, it's running exactly as it should and I'm getting iptables logging in exactly *one* place, /var/log/ulogd.syslogemu. No ring buffer (dmesg), no console, no syslog. Finally!! In my iptables script, which was pretty much generated via fwbuilder BTW, there are two rules that I log. Here's an example chain named RULE_0: iptables -N RULE_0 iptables -A INPUT -j RULE_0 -f iptables -A RULE_0 -j ULOG iptables -A RULE_0 -j DROP I also did something I wasn't sure was/is necessary. I recompiled my 2.4.18 kernel with CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV=y it's in the networking options if you're using xconfig or menuconfig. After booting that kernel I [snip] Silly question maybe - did you compile ULOG target support into the kernel? Do you modprobe/insmod it if it's a module? Just a thought ... jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 03:54:28PM -0700, Alexis Georges wrote: hey yesterday i wrote a message in which i explained that my ethernet connection did not work in debian (it wont configure automatically ) even though it has worked before when i installed int a while ago..today someone told me that i hsould try to do this:ifconfig eth0 up i did that but it gave me this: SIOCSIFFLAGS: resource temporarily unavailable like i said previously, i tried installing mandrake, and it did work, it also works with windows..just not with debian..i have a dynamic IP as well so i tried using pump or dhcpcd but nothing changed thank you for any help Alexis Georges Alexis - the last time I saw this error was when I was trying to use the rtl8139 driver. I solved it by using the 8139too driver instead. If you're using an 8139 based card Check out /etc/modules(.conf?), and try replacing rtl8319 with 8139too. Apologies if this isn't the cause of your problem. jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Recommendations for a mail-list client]
Evening all. Let me preface this slightly OT mail by explaining why I'm asking this on deb-user. I'm asking for suggestions for a simple mail-shot client for windows, so that I can pass this on to a friend of mine. He's quite into the internet, with all the connotations that those quotes imply. I get the impression that if I manage to help him now, then I'll get a foothold in helping him start up his new idea, but if I don't he'll just go the whole way on his own, in merry M$ ignorance. So, in essence, I'm asking for windows recommendations in order to keep the possibility of opening his eyes to linux, later on. That said, could anyone give me a recommendation for the following task to be completed /under windows/: He'd like to send out a weekly mailshot to a list of subscribers. He doesn't want to expose subscribers' addresses to the rest of the list. He'd like /not/ to use bcc's, as he sees them as quite amateurish (I know - I've tried to get over the who cares? PoV) He'd like each subscriber's name/address to appear in the To: header. He'd like to manage the lists as simply as possibly. He's got a domain name, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets passed on to his ISP. I think that there'll be the trace of what eveything is, in the headers (so we could use a [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and [EMAIL PROTECTED], fr'instance). He'd like still to use LookOut Express as his personal email client, leading me to believe that whatever software we use will have to examine the POP3 mailbox headers, and selectively fetch, delete, and deal with list-related mail before he uses LO to get his personal mail. He's not connected 24/7, so it can't rely on mail going straight to him - it'll have to go via the ISP. /I'd/ like him to have the ability to use subscription confirmation somehow. Possibly a Reply-To: set to confirm-unique-code@hisdomain.com in a mail to new subscribers? Please bear in mind that I'm doing this only 'cos I think that, sometime in the future, he'll be ripe for turning to the Penguin. Suggestions for doing it under linux would be useful, but only for future reference. Anyhow, I know how to use majordomo :) PS I know this guy, and can vouch that he won't be spamming - it'll be list subscribers (and not that you are on my list of opt-in addresses bollox) only. -- easy now! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim and dialup
Hi all - I use exim on a dialup system, and use more than one dialup provider. I'd like to get exim only to try delivering mail when I'm connected via one specific provider, as the smarthost that my main ISP provides doesn't relay for me when I'm dialed in via another ISP. At the moment, exim sends me a delivery error (RELAY DENIED, or some such message) when I dial up my non-email ISP, and I've got outbound email. Has anyone else come up against this problem and solved it? jc -- Ai. Big up, ya bytch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dvd problem - maybe not RPC2 related ...
Big up, the list.
I've just gone out and bought a new DVD player - specs at end of the
mail. The last one I had was, supposedly, RPC2 - region 2 - and the
firmware wasn't rewritable.
After buying this new one, which /can/ be upgraded to RPC1, I
decided to actually check out some of the errors I'd been seeing
before. Did I do this the wrong way round? Uh-huh.
Anyhow, the new drive gives me the following errors on the console
when I try to cat an encrypted .vob file (and yes, I've done the
use multiword as default kernel config option, before anyone asks
:)
hdd: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdd: command error: error=0x54
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 14059180
Can someone put me right on a couple of questions?
a) Is this an RPC2 issue? I haven't patched the firmware yet, and
it is - supposedly - a region 2 drive, and the DVD producing
these errors is a region 2 copy of The Matrix. Basically, is this
being caused by my drive not ever having been put into a win box
and having some magic done to it by the win drivers, the first time
it's used, or some such thing?
b) Has anyone ever seen this behaviour and solved it? As I said
before, I've googled around for a bit, and just come up with the
kernel config option, which I'd already got selected anyway.
c) Could it be to do with the access mode that I'm using?
I've tried all manner of modes, including the ones advertised
on the player's box (PIO mode 4, Multiword DMA mode 2, and
UDMA/33) with no discernable difference.
d) HELP!!
muchos gratias,
jc
DVD player specs:
Artec 16x DVD-ROM
bigdaddy:/home/jaycee# for I in /proc/ide/hdd/* ; do echo $I ; cat $I ; done
/proc/ide/hdd/capacity
16124624
/proc/ide/hdd/driver
ide-cdrom version 4.59
/proc/ide/hdd/identify
85c0
2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
2020 2020 2020 2020 2056
332e 3130 2020 4944 4520 4456 442d 524f
4d20 3136 5820 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 2020
0f00 0400 0200 0006
0007 0407
0003 0078 0078 0078 0078
0007
/proc/ide/hdd/media
cdrom
/proc/ide/hdd/model
IDE DVD-ROM 16X
/proc/ide/hdd/settings
namevalue min max mode
- --- ---
breada_readahead4 0 127 rw
current_speed 0 0 69 rw
dsc_overlap 1 0 1 rw
file_readahead 0 0 2097151 rw
ide_scsi0 0 1 rw
init_speed 0 0 69 rw
io_32bit0 0 3 rw
keepsettings0 0 1 rw
max_kb_per_request 127 1 127 rw
nice1 1 0 1 rw
number 3 0 3 rw
pio_modewrite-only 0 255 w
slow0 0 1 rw
unmaskirq 0 0 1 rw
using_dma 0 0 1 rw
bigdaddy:/home/jaycee# hdparm /dev/hdd
/dev/hdd:
HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument
I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq= 0 (off)
using_dma= 0 (off)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
HDIO_GET_NOWERR failed: Invalid argument
readonly = 1 (on)
readahead= 8 (on)
HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
busstate = 1 (on)
bigdaddy:/home/jaycee# hdparm -iI /dev/hdd
/dev/hdd:
Model=IDE DVD-ROM 16X, FwRev=V3.10, SerialNo=
Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR=5Mbs DTR10Mbs nonMagnetic }
RawCHS=0/0/0, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0,
Address rewriting with exim as smarthost
Does this ring a bell with anyone? I've got my work box (bigdaddy) set up with exim as the mta, sending mail to my router/smarthost (kanyon). Exim seems to send all non-bigdaddy mail to kanyon, even that for my other local boxes (e.g. therock) - that's fine, and I'll solve the problem of mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] going out of the local net later. Where do I need to make changes to achieve the following: I'd like the address rewriting (not sure that's the correct term in this situation) to happen on kanyon. I'd like to have a /etc/email-addresses without anything related to the ISP I'm connected to at the moment on bigdaddy, and just have jaycee: [EMAIL PROTECTED] in that file on the /smarthost/. At the moment, the only way I can get a replyable-to From: header into my mail is to have the rewriting done on the work box, and simply use the smarthost as an open relay - requiring me to block access to the smtp port from outside. This means I have to pull mail down with fetchmail, rather than use my ISP's nice SMTP push option. In summary, how do I get per-user address rewriting done with exim, on a smarthost, with addresses stored in /etc/email-addresses (but only from a well defined set of machines)? TIA, jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj.
SSH 2 slower than 1?
Does anyone have idea why, after dist-upgrading my 486/25 router from stable - testing, ssh'ing in takes massively longer than before? A ssh -v kanyon exit reveals that the slow point is immediately after debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY .. but I'm not sure why the reply it's waiting for is taking so long. It's not the generating of the session key, is it? Not even sure if that a relevant question. Anyway, after waiting a good 15 seconds, I get: debug1: Host 'kanyon' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/jaycee/.ssh/known_hosts:7 debug1: bits set: 1618/3191 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: kex_derive_keys . . . and some more. I can post the lot if it'd help. Is it just that protocol 2 takes that much more horsepower to start a session that my 486 just isn't up to it? I do hope not ... cheers, jc -- It may stop, it may not. And stop calling me dj.
