Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation
On 11/2/19 9:06 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: I don't know the full details on how kde starts, but have been researching jovie to my limited capacity. If spdconf has been run and had a voice configured it may be possible to hit alt+f2 then type jovie or kmouth and maybe have speech come up and talk. Me with no kde experienced sighted assistance let alone any sighted assistance tried to get Kaos-linux going earlier today and that was a total failure. A way exists to install enough xorg packages so you could log in as a console user and then run startx to bring up kde but I don't have full details on that one in my notes. If you did that, you'd be able to run spdconf in console mode and get it set up and working before your next attempt at kde. Good luck, also there is an kde-accessibil...@kde.org email list for what passes for kde accessibility support. On Sat, 2 Nov 2019, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 14:42:45 From: Kenward Vaughan To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: KDE desktop not accessible after installation Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 01:43:04 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE. The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no startkde (has that disappeared?), and I have no .xsession* file. Anyone know what I am missing to get this to work? I am running an up-to-date testing system... Thanks, Kenward I'll look for that (spdconf).?? Thanks! Kenward
Re: KDE desktop not accessible after installation
On 11/2/19 8:42 PM, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 3/11/19 5:42 am, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE.?? The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no startkde (has that disappeared?), and I have no .xsession* file.?? Anyone know what I am missing to get this to work? I am running an up-to-date testing system... Thanks, Kenward G'day Kenward Is there a plasma option? No.?? I have everything else (XFCE, Cinnamon, and Mate) as well as the default. LightDM shows the same. I wonder if the package lacks the appropriate config script for X managers??? (However this is done--I'm not a programmer/maintainer.) Kenward
KDE desktop not accessible after installation
Hello, I have been using XFCE for quit some time, but wanted to play with several other desktop environments, so I installed Cinnamon, Mate, and KDE. The KDE choice does not show up in sddm's or lightdm's menu.?? I see no startkde (has that disappeared?), and I have no .xsession* file. Anyone know what I am missing to get this to work? I am running an up-to-date testing system... Thanks, Kenward
Logout, shut down autostarted app in openbox?
Hi,
I have a nicely working script for rotating backgrounds in openbox. It
is initiated in autostart.sh. My trouble involves having this shut
down if I log out, then back in at a later time. The first instance
does not get terminated, so my backgrounds begin to change at really
interesting rates...
Is there a check of some sort I can put into the script in the
beginning that will either exit if another instance is running, or shut
that earlier one down and continue on?
The script is off some online forum, called by:
./.config/openbox/wallpaperRandomSwitch.sh
in autostart.sh. The script itself:
#!/bin/bash
shopt -s nullglob
cd ~/Pictures
while true; do
files=()
for i in *.[Jj][Pp][Gg] *.png; do
[[ -f $i ]] files+=($i)
done
range=${#files[@]}
((range)) feh --bg-max ${files[RANDOM % range]}
sleep 15m
done
Many thanks for suggestions!
Kenward
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Re: Logout, shut down autostarted app in openbox?
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:04:17 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 09:09 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: My trouble involves having this shut down if I log out, then back in at a later time. Than a script for shutdown wouldn't work. I misunderstood at least this part of your request. I thought you were writing about a shutdown and that after startup the old session would be restored. If it would be like that, than the easiest way would be not to start it in addition :D. Sorry. However, is ps aux and killall what you're looking for? I didn't test it and I never learned to write scripts, I only piece together script. Thanks, Ralf. I have played a bit more with the scripting end, but found that a slew of things were not shut down. Some playing around has proven to me that the issue is the login manager (gdm3). It doesn't even shut down the autostart script. When I start from a terminal (startx) using openbox-session, none of these issues occur. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131018183022.3e73b...@dobby.vaughan.home
sequence of screenshots?
I want to capture a rotating figure in a window and make a movie of it. I've Googled several ways to take screenshots with programs (gimp, shutter, imagemagick, etc.) but have seen no way to do this consistently every 0.X seconds... fbcat looked hopeful until I realized that nvidia doesn't seem to have aan fb device under /dev. Is there a way to do this?? Thoughts are welcome! TIA, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295777120.26504.8.ca...@hpotter.vaughan.home
Re: sequence of screenshots?
On Sun, 2011-01-23 at 08:20 -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote: Kenward Vaughan wrote: I want to capture a rotating figure in a window and make a movie of it. I've Googled several ways to take screenshots with programs (gimp, shutter, imagemagick, etc.) but have seen no way to do this consistently every 0.X seconds... fbcat looked hopeful until I realized that nvidia doesn't seem to have aan fb device under /dev. Is there a way to do this?? Thoughts are welcome! How about RecordMyDesktop http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php it's in the Debian repos. Wow. I didn't know which response to use! All of these seem to be great suggestions--I was wondering if something like scrot or import could be used in a script, but it was around 2 am and I was getting really hazy... The screencast approach is almost certainly the direction I'1l go in, as my intent is a YouTube like movie for my students, showing various concepts in chemistry. (My source is the motion of molecules displaying various features in modeling apps I use.) Audio overlay would be nice as a built-in feature. The one thing I'll be looking for in addition is possible text overlays. The simpler script approaches might be the way to go for that if it turns out to be too much in the comprehensive apps. I have my own homework now. Thanks for all the help! Kenward -- We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295803898.26504.22.ca...@hpotter.vaughan.home
Re: Sun Java upgrade to 1.6.0_23 ?
I still run into the menu issues with 1.6.0_23, it seems. I'm assuming what I describe below worked effectively. :(( On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 20:06 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:16:14 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 12:57 +, Camaleón wrote: Last time I installed (you don't update java but install a new release) Java JRE from Oracle's site was a straight forward step. After that, you can run update-alternatives to select the default java to be used. This is using Oracle's installer with defaults?? Yep... I hope the installer is still as easy as it was last time I checked (I juts followed the on site install guide). Well, tried this but was Very unsure about using update-alternatives, so I figured out the structure of Debian's install and replaced the 22 version with 23. I did this by * moving the entire jre_23 installed directory (not the correct name) into the /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22 directory, * renaming the original /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22/jre directory to something new, * renaming the jre_23 subdirectory to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.22/jre I think this effectively sidestepped things. 'java -version' now reports java version 1.6.0_23 If in doubt, try first installing within a VM and see how it goes... ... Haven't done this yet. Did install virtualbox, but my time is minimal right now, so haven't tried to learn its usage yet. BTW, I can run this sample just fine (using JRE 6 update 22): http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ For me this fails. The demo works with the buttons on the page, but RMB-ing on the applet screen itself fails to call up Jmol's menus. No clue as to the difference between yours and my installation. Oh, yes, it's just the applet what I tested not the whole jmol. (...) I just downloaded the full program and run jmol shell script, it opens the program and I can open a jar file... do you want me to take any concrete test? :-? The local version works fine. The applet version is the point where the menu issues appear. You are saying that you have no problems on that web page using the menu called up by a RMB on the screen? ... Hum... are you sure you are using Sun's java and not openjdk? You can check it with this command: *** stt008:~# update-alternatives --display java java - status is manual. link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java -- /usr/bin/gij-4.3 - priority 43 /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java - priority 1042 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java - priority 63 slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz Current `best' version is /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java. *** This is the process I went through, and all java links are now sun's. Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294509182.23799.46.ca...@hpotter.vaughan.home
Sun Java upgrade to 1.6.0_23 ?
I'm working with Jmol (www.jmol.org) under Debian Sid for a course I'm teaching in a few weeks, but am running into a standing issue with the current build of Sun Java found in Sid (RMB menus don't work properly). 1.6.0_23 is available on Sun's site, but I don't believe the upgrade is simple from what I've read. Is there a way to do this directly w/o waiting for the next packaging round? I'm drawn to that build, as it apparently works with Jmol as reported by someone else in the Jmol group. TIA, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294391080.23799.9.ca...@hpotter.vaughan.home
Re: Sun Java upgrade to 1.6.0_23 ?
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 12:57 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:04:40 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... 1.6.0_23 is available on Sun's site, but I don't believe the upgrade is simple from what I've read. Is there a way to do this directly w/o waiting for the next packaging round? Last time I installed (you don't update java but install a new release) Java JRE from Oracle's site was a straight forward step. After that, you can run update-alternatives to select the default java to be used. This is using Oracle's installer with defaults?? If in doubt, try first installing within a VM and see how it goes... I'll look this up... I've never tried using a virtual machine (chroot??) to test things (though certainly should have, to be a True Debian-ite ;). It would have saved my butt several times over the past years... Or you can wait until it is available in Sid :-? I'm drawn to that build, as it apparently works with Jmol as reported by someone else in the Jmol group. BTW, I can run this sample just fine (using JRE 6 update 22): http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/ For me this fails. The demo works with the buttons on the page, but RMB-ing on the applet screen itself fails to call up Jmol's menus. No clue as to the difference between yours and my installation. I went through all of the java alternatives and updated them to Sun's version instead of the openjdk version, but that made no difference. I don't know why openjdk is chosen for me when I deliberately install Sun. :-/ Thanks for your input! Kenward -- Man does not cease to play because he grows old... Man grows old because he ceases to play. Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting '...Oh, WOW !! ...what a ride...' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294420574.23799.20.ca...@hpotter.vaughan.home
CUPS print jobs get interrupted, lost
Somewhere in the last few updates of my Sid system I noticed that print jobs in process get lost if another job comes along behind it, whether from my own machine or another one on the LAN. I have an HP 1200 (parallel) and use this machine as the CUPS server. A current job of 4 pages might print 2, then the new job will come out and the rest of the pages will be lost. I don't recall this ever happening before so am at a loss about its cause. I don't see any error messages in the CUPS log relating to this, either. I also recently upgraded my home-rolled kernel to version 2.6.29 if that might have an effect. I'm pretty sure I didn't change anything related to this but... Anyone have an idea what might have happened? Is there a permissions thing going on, perhaps? Cheers, Kenward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 16:44 +0200, Micha wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:59:29 -0600 John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian-multimedia now has a native 64 bit flashplayer in Experimental. I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how well it works. I tried that one and it didn't work initially with nspluginwrapter installed. I downloaded it directly now and installed and during installation I found out that nspluginwrapter left some files behind. Now that I've removed them it works fine. Don't know if the original experimental version from multimedia.org works also (I just overwritten that version with the downloaded one). by the way, nspluginwraper tends to be a very serious cpu hogger, don't know if it's that or flash but we'll see in a bit There isn't a 64-bit acroreader plugin yet, is there? nspluginwrapper is needed for that as well... It is a renegade app on our systems, leaving ld-linux.so.2 hanging after any use, which then slowly chews up memory until the system grinds to a halt. Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall Utilities
On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 00:10 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: firehole is great too ! Anyone work with firestarter? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewall Utilities
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 08:52 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 00:10 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: firehole is great too ! Anyone work with firestarter? Sorry about the post... I did not see the originals and had this question in mind at the moment. Now I see I probably should have started a new thread as the OP wasn't even interested in a GUI app. My apologies again! Kenward -- Small is the number of them that see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts... Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Resolved] Re: Cdrecord loses permission to write CD's...
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 18:31 +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:58 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Kenward Vaughan: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:29 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: ... Do you have DMA enabled at all? Check with 'hdparm -d /dev/$foo', replacing $foo with your cd/dvd device and your hard disk(s). J. I've tried that at times with no luck on the CDs: hpotter:/home/daddy# hdparm -d on /dev/hda on: No such file or directory hpotter:/home/daddy# hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda /dev/hda: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma = 0 (off) My HDs are SATAs, so hdparm doesn't work, written as above, at least. Do you know whether there is a setting or series of settings in my kernel that I don't realize need to be changed?? (I roll my own.) Thanks, Kenward Hi, I had the same issue with activeting the GENERIC_IDE option in the kernel. Look at ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL under Device Drivers generic/default IDE chipset support - CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support - CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC Disable them or set them to M this way no generic ide is setup and the ata_* code takes effect which leads to u/DMA getting enabled After this your drive (and/or cd/dvd) will be found as /dev/sdX respectively /dev/srX hope this helps for me it worked regards Emanoil, Wonderful! I finally got time to try this, and it worked great. The CDs are flying out of the tray now. Thanks to Jochen too, for your help as well with this! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cdrecord loses permission to write CD's...
After copying one CD, I find cdrecord losing it's permission to write to the blank for a second, new CD. Any thoughts why this is happening? Info is in the debugging output below. I was running Fluxbox after a reboot. FWIW I have difficulties as well getting the Plextor drive to be recognized under Gnome, with it winding up spitting out not ready messages on every terminal screen following attempts to use K3B or any other CD software. I've had to reboot to reset things. Is this a hald issue perhaps? TIA for any help! Kenward --- Below is the debugging output from K3B: System --- K3b Version: 1.0.5 KDE Version: 3.5.9 QT Version: 3.3.8b Kernel: 2.6.26 Devices --- LITE-ON DVD D LH-16D1P TL13 (/dev/hdb, ) [CD-ROM, DVD-ROM] [DVD-ROM, CD-ROM] [None] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A 1.03 (/dev/hda, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite] Used versions --- cdrecord: 1.1.8 cdrecord --- /usr/bin/wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.scsidev: '/dev/hda' devname: '/dev/hda' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Wodim version: 1.1.8 SCSI buffer size: 64512 Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device communication breaks or freezes immediately after that. TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA Driveropts: 'burnfree' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'PLEXTOR ' Identification : 'DVDR PX-708A ' Revision : '1.03' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x0009 (CD-R) Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R) Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW) Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording) Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite) Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording) Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM) Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) (current) Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1190112 = 1162 KB Drive DMA Speed: 1341 kB/s 7x CD 0x DVD FIFO size : 12582912 = 12288 KB Encoding speed : 909x (68123 sectors/s) for libedc from Heiko Eißfeldt Track1 Start: '32' (32) pregap1: 182 Track 01: audio 38 MB (03:49.70) no preemp pregapsize: 182 Track 02: audio 10 MB (01:02.86) no preemp pregapsize: 0 ... Track 25: audio 18 MB (01:52.77) no preemp pregapsize: 0 Total size: 548 MB (54:17.80) = 244335 sectors Lout start: 548 MB (54:19/60) = 244335 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 5 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+) (3) ATIP start of lead in: -11634 (97:26/66) Speed set to 7056 KB/s /usr/bin/wodim: DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 40x. ATIP start of lead out: 359846 (79:59/71) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 3 Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics Corporation Blocks total: 359846 Blocks current: 359846 Blocks remaining: 115511 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 40.0 in real RAW/RAW96R mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in2 seconds. 1 seconds. 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Performing OPC... Errno: 0 (Success), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 2A 00 FF FF D4 7C 00 00 1A 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 FF FF D5 12 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 07 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x07 (write error - recovery needed) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk -10990 (valid) resid: 63648 cmd finished after 1.861s timeout 40s /usr/bin/wodim: Could not write Lead-in. Writing lead-in at sector -11634 write leadin data: error after 1209312 bytes Writing time: 30.620s /usr/bin/wodim: fifo had 191 puts and 0 gets. /usr/bin/wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%. cdrecord command: --- /usr/bin/wodim -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hda speed=40 -raw96r driveropts=burnfree -eject -text -useinfo -audio -shorttrack /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track01.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track02.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track03.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track04.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track05.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track06.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track07.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track08.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track09.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track10.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track11.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track12.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track13.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track14.wav /opt/film/k3bCdCopy0/Track15.wav
Re: Cdrecord loses permission to write CD's...
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 12:09 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: After copying one CD, I find cdrecord losing it's permission to write to the blank for a second, new CD. Any thoughts why this is happening? Info is in the debugging output below. I was running Fluxbox after a ... Restarting K3B and trying to burn an iso image started off well, then died 80% of the way through with a similar error message... Kenward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cdrecord loses permission to write CD's...
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:29 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Kenward Vaughan: Speed set to 7056 KB/s /usr/bin/wodim: DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 40x. This might be your problem. Did you already try burning in a slower mode? J. It's on auto, so I hadn't tried to change that. I'll look at it. I don't get the DMA issue, to be honest. I wonder if that was lost when I got this box a while back (I don't burn discs too often). It wasn't a question with my older machine. Thanks, Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cdrecord loses permission to write CD's...
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:58 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Kenward Vaughan: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 23:29 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Kenward Vaughan: Speed set to 7056 KB/s /usr/bin/wodim: DMA speed too slow (OK for 6x). Cannot write at speed 40x. This might be your problem. Did you already try burning in a slower mode? I don't get the DMA issue, to be honest. I wonder if that was lost when I got this box a while back (I don't burn discs too often). It wasn't a question with my older machine. I did successfully burn a disc at 4x. Do you have DMA enabled at all? Check with 'hdparm -d /dev/$foo', replacing $foo with your cd/dvd device and your hard disk(s). J. I've tried that at times with no luck on the CDs: hpotter:/home/daddy# hdparm -d on /dev/hda on: No such file or directory hpotter:/home/daddy# hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda /dev/hda: setting using_dma to 1 (on) HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted using_dma = 0 (off) My HDs are SATAs, so hdparm doesn't work, written as above, at least. Do you know whether there is a setting or series of settings in my kernel that I don't realize need to be changed?? (I roll my own.) Thanks, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resetting ssh after blacklist?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:24 +0300, Shachar Or wrote: On Thursday 07 August 2008 08:18, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, Google isn't helping me right now with this, and the update notice doesn't show a procedure, AFAICT, for redoing ssh between my gateway and primary desktop at home. The firewall/gateway allows connections only from the desktop machine, and that is ssh. I regenerated rsa keys for myself, transported the public one to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the gateway, and removed the known-hosts file. I cannot connect. The keys have password phrases attached as well. Would someone please help this old fella with the missing step? I touch that machine about once in a blue moon wrt this sort of thing, so it's not second-nature to me. Thanks! Try with ssh -v and paste it here, please. see below... The rsa file is the one placed onto the gateway. daddy:~# ssh -v blackGate OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-2, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /home/daddy/.ssh/config debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to blackGate [192.168.0.1] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /home/daddy/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.RSA-2048 debug1: identity file /home/daddy/.ssh/id_dsa type 2 debug1: Checking blacklist file /usr/share/ssh/blacklist.DSA-1024 debug1: Checking blacklist file /etc/ssh/blacklist.DSA-1024 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch2 debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch2 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-2 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received debug1: kex: server-client aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: kex: client-server aes128-cbc hmac-md5 none debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(102410248192) sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY debug1: Host 'blackGate' is known and matches the RSA host key. debug1: Found key in /home/daddy/.ssh/known_hosts:1 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive,hostbased debug1: Next authentication method: hostbased debug1: permanently_drop_suid: 1000 ssh-keysign not enabled in /etc/ssh/ssh_config ssh_msg_send: write ssh_keysign: couldn't send request 10:53:55 daddy:~# I don't understand the permanently_drop_suid: 1000 line (which refers to me...) Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resetting ssh after blacklist?
From: Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux.debian.user you write: Hi, Google isn't helping me right now with this, and the update notice doesn't show a procedure, AFAICT, for redoing ssh between my gateway and primary desktop at home. The firewall/gateway allows connections only from the desktop machine, and that is ssh. I am afraid that although you know how the machines are connected, what kind of machines they are, where your dateway and desktop are, etc, we do not. redoing? firewall/gateway? Is that the same gateway? Sorry... my desktop is Debian Sid, The gateway/firewall is Etch on an old Athlon 700. They're connected by standard ethernet. The most recent updates for me for ssh addressed the Debian-specific openssh key problems. This happened on both machines. I recreated new rsa public/private keys on the desktop, put the public one onto the gateway as ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and tried to reestablish connections between the two. This was unsuccessful. This is the gist of the rest of my message, below. I regenerated rsa keys for myself, transported the public one to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the gateway, and removed the known-hosts file. I cannot connect. The keys have password phrases attached as well. No idea what you are doing, or what the situation is. Would someone please help this old fella with the missing step? I touch that machine about once in a blue moon wrt this sort of thing, so it's not second-nature to me. Please describe exactly what you are doing. I hope the above clarifies this. Please let me know if you need other information. My last email to the list included the output of ssh -v blackGate from the desktop. Thanks, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solved... Re: resetting ssh after blacklist?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:17 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: From: Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux.debian.user you write: Hi, Google isn't helping me right now with this, and the update notice doesn't show a procedure, AFAICT, for redoing ssh between my gateway and primary desktop at home. The firewall/gateway allows connections only from the desktop machine, and that is ssh. I am afraid that although you know how the machines are connected, what kind of machines they are, where your dateway and desktop are, etc, we do not. redoing? firewall/gateway? Is that the same gateway? Sorry... my desktop is Debian Sid, The gateway/firewall is Etch on an old Athlon 700. They're connected by standard ethernet. The most recent updates for me for ssh addressed the Debian-specific openssh key problems. This happened on both machines. I recreated new rsa public/private keys on the desktop, put the public one onto the gateway as ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and tried to reestablish connections between the two. This was unsuccessful. This is the gist of the rest of my message, below. I regenerated rsa keys for myself, transported the public one to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the gateway, and removed the known-hosts file. I cannot connect. The keys have password phrases attached as well. No idea what you are doing, or what the situation is. Would someone please help this old fella with the missing step? I touch that machine about once in a blue moon wrt this sort of thing, so it's not second-nature to me. Please describe exactly what you are doing. I hope the above clarifies this. Please let me know if you need other information. My last email to the list included the output of ssh -v blackGate from the desktop. I seem to have solved the issue by adding the line EnableSSHKeysign yes to the system ssh_config file. It has never been there before, but adding it now clears up the keysign error message and prompts for the passphrase properly. Thanks to those who offered help! Kenward -- Small is the number of them that see with their own eyes and feel with their own hearts... Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nVidia binary on 2.6.26 [was: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid]
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 16:29 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 08/05/08 15:53, David Witbrodt wrote: - Original Message From: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] My big problems now are: a) nvidia binary driver doesn't build on .26 (which I need for other reasons), Sorry to hear that. I've been using the beta 177.13 driver for quite a while now. I built a custom 2.6.26 kernel for my desktop on Saturday, and nvidia 177.13 runs on it very nicely. In fact, when I moved to 177.13 from the stable series, everything seemed to move noticeably faster... I was very impressed and satisfied with the results! Good to know. It's 173.14.05 (the latest stable) that doesn't build with .26. I've done alright with Sid's 173.14.09 driver and custom .26 kernel as well. Haven't needed any speed recently, but its works alright. The problems I have with X at this time are memory hog ones from other apps. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
resetting ssh after blacklist?
Hi, Google isn't helping me right now with this, and the update notice doesn't show a procedure, AFAICT, for redoing ssh between my gateway and primary desktop at home. The firewall/gateway allows connections only from the desktop machine, and that is ssh. I regenerated rsa keys for myself, transported the public one to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the gateway, and removed the known-hosts file. I cannot connect. The keys have password phrases attached as well. Would someone please help this old fella with the missing step? I touch that machine about once in a blue moon wrt this sort of thing, so it's not second-nature to me. Thanks! Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lenovo Thinkpad, HP, or Vostro/Latitude? was Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 04:30 +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: 2008/6/21 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As long as California limo liberals make sure there are no offshore oil rigs, and Ted Kennedy prevents windmills off the coast of Martha's Vineyard, they don't *really* give a rat's arse about China. Ron, I can't speak for California limo liberals, since I've never owned or been inside a limo, but I can state categorically that a large number of people of many political persuasions are concerned about the environmental impact of manufacturing, regardless of where that manufacturing occurs. Kenward, on that note: if you want to buy a laptop with a low environmental impact, you could do worse than to look at the Greenpeace guide to greener electronics, which rates all the major firms (Lenovo included) based upon the companies' environmental policies and upon, in at least some cases, a chemical analysis of their products. I hope you are able to find an affordable laptop that lets you run the FOSS software you want to run, has the physical properties you need for the usage you intend, and is compatible with any political and environmental concerns you may have. With such a large global laptop market, it should be possible. Best regards, Sam Thanks to you, Asuka (private response), and the others for your thoughts. I'd decided on the Lenovo despite the interesting turn the thread took. ;-) Decent price, and I decided in good part to stay with the Thinkpad experiences. The impact you bring up is a good one to consider, but not one I had thought about until now. Will keep it up front in future purchases. Ciao! Kenward -- Do not worry about your difficulties in mathematics. I can assure you that mine are still greater. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lenovo Thinkpad, HP, or Vostro/Latitude? was Re: OT: Laptop for College Bound Student?
We are in the same position, and need a quick solution. I'm looking at Newegg's Lenovo Thinkpads (R61i and T61) at $1K and the Dell Vostro/Latitude D630 choices at the $600/850 levels. Costco has some HP's as well, roughly the same level. The $$ is fine across the board--I wanted quick feelings about the models... are thinkpads simply superior build-wise and so are the best choice, or...? I recognize that this could start a flameware--it's not the intent, though. Honest thoughts are welcome. Cheers, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing gives only totallly black pages
On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 11:41 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I haven't been tracking any threads on cups, so don't know whether others have encountered this or not. Nothing seems to show up in the archives. I just upgraded in Sid last night and today discovered that printing was messed up--first the printers wouldn't respond, then (after rebooting), all I get with printing is a very black page. This happens whether from the cups admin page, a website page, or something as simple as dmesg | tail | lpr from the command line. I have an HP 1200, and am using the cups/gutenprint driver. After several reinstalls/purges/reconfigures with different ppds, etc., I finally tried using an older HP ppd for the printer instead of relying on the Gutenprint or HP ppds which came with the various packages. That seems to have fixed the problem. I have no clue why the other ppds stopped working. Oh well. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
printing gives only totallly black pages
I haven't been tracking any threads on cups, so don't know whether others have encountered this or not. Nothing seems to show up in the archives. I just upgraded in Sid last night and today discovered that printing was messed up--first the printers wouldn't respond, then (after rebooting), all I get with printing is a very black page. This happens whether from the cups admin page, a website page, or something as simple as dmesg | tail | lpr from the command line. I have an HP 1200, and am using the cups/gutenprint driver. I have no feel for what to examine here, so am asking if anyone has ideas about what to do next? There are no errors reported under /var/log/cups... Thanks, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling .deb from source with additional parameters?
Hi, I'd like to be able to compile a package from source (ghemical, FWIW) so that I can add so additional parameters not normally included which will enhance the app for my purposes. The enhancements are part of the upstream distribution (an interface with GAMESS). Is there a way to do this using apt-get? Something which might be done in the middle of a sequence like: apt-get build-dep ghemical ; apt-get -b source ghemical What would have to be added are the config parameters --enable-gamess --enable-shortcuts Thanks for any help with this! Kenward -- .'^~;,_ Dr. Kenward Vaughan`:,'~ Professor of Chemistry \;:/ Bakersfield College|,;| 1801 Panorama Drive / ', \ Bakersfield, CA 93305 / o O \ http://www2.bc.cc.ca.us/kvaughan(oOoOOoOo) ------ ???$$MM$$??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling .deb from source with additional parameters?
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 01:06 +0100, Davide Mancusi wrote: Kenward Vaughan ha scritto: Hi, I'd like to be able to compile a package from source (ghemical, FWIW) so that I can add so additional parameters not normally included which will enhance the app for my purposes. The enhancements are part of the upstream distribution (an interface with GAMESS). Is there a way to do this using apt-get? Something which might be done in the middle of a sequence like: apt-get build-dep ghemical ; apt-get -b source ghemical What would have to be added are the config parameters --enable-gamess --enable-shortcuts I think you should have a look at $ ./configure --help and add or modify the relevant options in pkg-source/debian/rules (look for CFLAGS). Then build everything using dpkg-buildpackage. That's the general thought I had--I guess I need to look for an apt-get option which goes through the process up to the point of actually building the package (some sort of download and unpack, but then stop) then a way to restart after the rules file modification... Is there anything complicated about the process after getting the build dependencies beyond simply DL'ing the source package (e.g. does some other package have to come with it)? Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling .deb from source with additional parameters?
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 02:29 +, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:31:06 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, I'd like to be able to compile a package from source (ghemical, FWIW) so that I can add so additional parameters not normally included which will enhance the app for my purposes. The enhancements are part of the upstream distribution (an interface with GAMESS). I frequently do this with couple of packages. For example, I would like to have readline support, history support in gnuplot. So I recompile it myself in a debianized way. The step-by-step instructions as to how I do it can be found at http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2007/04/build-gnuplot-with-gnu- readline-and.html This looks exactly like what I am trying to do. Thanks, Kamaraju! Now to wait for the missing dependencies to show up... :( Kenward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- A. Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard Recommendation
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:45 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MSI K9A Platinum http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=28 I use this board with an AMD 3800 X2 . No problem. Ditto here. No issues, good board. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Migrate kernel 2.4 to 2.6
On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 07:50 +, Qnick wrote: I have a box ((Fujitsu-Siemens PRIMERGY RX300 S3) within Debian 4.0 Etch and 2.4.31 kernel . I very want upgrade it to kernel 2.6.21 but i don't know how do it. I installed kernel package 2.6.18 from Debian distribution but after reboot accured kernel panic (don't detect scsi megaraid). After I compiled new kernel. I installed necessary package: udev, yaird , initramfs-tools. ... Just in general, there are reference pages out there for migration. One is http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5793467888.html This isn't a direct answer to what ails you, but is worth looking at for those switching from 2.4.x to the 2.6 kernel. Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 a custom linux image?
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:54 +0200, csanyipal wrote: Hello! I want to by a videocard: MSI nVidia NX7600GS-T2D512EH 400MHz/800MHz/DDR2 128-bit/TV-out2xDVI/SLI For this to work, a will to install nvidia-glx debian package. But, with this package apt will to install: linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 too. I have yet a custom linux-image-2.6.18. I don't know, how can I use the nvidia-glx with this custom linux-image, or what can I do in this situation? Any advices will be appreciated! My own route to this is to install the linux-source package, the nvidia-kernel-source package, the kernel-package package. Create your kernel .deb followed by the nvidia module .deb using make-kpkg. The directions for using make-kpkg are quite decent (I suggest using epochs, BTW), and it's clean and easy to maintain. Installing the two .deb's properly sets up all you need. Nvidia-glx should fall into place automatically. Kenward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- A. Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg hardwear support for GeForce 7600GS Leadtek AGP
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:24 +0200, csanyipal wrote: Hello! System: Etch, kernel 2.6.18 Before I by this videocard, I want to be sure that that xorg supports it. Is somewhere a list of videocards supported by xorg? Any advices will be appreciated! Hi Paul, I have the Gigabyte Nvidia 7600 GS silent card, and it works well enough with the latest nvidia driver (9755) under amd64. I get a few quirks here and there but nothing irritating (for me at least). My system has on occasion frozen solid (even to the outside network), but no log gives a hint as to its origins. Don't know if that is the video driver or not. I don't know how to track it with no errors messages. Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg hardwear support for GeForce 7600GS Leadtek AGP
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 16:24 +0200, csanyipal wrote: Hello! System: Etch, kernel 2.6.18 Before I by this videocard, I want to be sure that that xorg supports it. Is somewhere a list of videocards supported by xorg? Any advices will be appreciated! Sorry... I should point out that I'm not into a lot of video stuff, so my endorsement is limited in that respect. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer setup
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 23:39 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: I've tried cups but it asks for a user name and password but does not accept mine and I have to cancel out of cups. I assume that since I'm not on line this option will nt work. You would need to use the root user, and the root password. Go to http://localhost:631, and, when asked, use root, and not your regular user. Sorry for a late entry here, so I don't know what's been said before... IIRC cups by default does not accept root for administration. The OP must add himself to the group lpadmin (through su, or whatever). He must then ***totally log out of X AND the underlying console session (if he used startx)***. Log back in, start up X, then use cups. His account name and password should then be accepted. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printer setup
On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 10:57 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: IIRC cups by default does not accept root for administration. Really? Mine does. When I open Common UNIX Printing System 1.2.7 page at http://localhost:631, it states quite clearly: If you are asked for a username and password, enter your login username and password or the root username and password. Mark Correct. I did say IIRC--and could not find any backup when I went back to check it later. :) Anyway, the lpadmin group bypasses any potential problems in using root anyway, and he won't have to think twice about it later. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LNE100TX lan card detected as eth2
On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 21:14 -0400, Charles Roberts wrote: system: etch I installed a new lan card(Linksys model LNE100TX). The system detected it and installed the tulip module but the network was not working. I executed ifconfig -a and it showed the new lan card as eth2 ( the mac address was the new lan card) . It should have been eth0. /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules also showed the new lan card as eth2 instead of eth0. By switching eth0 and eth2 around I was able to get the network to work again. Is this a bug? Is this the correct way to get my network working again? Charles I don't know what will havppen to that file as you do various upgrades, but I know there is some way to set it on bootup, either as a kernel option or in an early script (rcS.d?). I had to do this on an old server which is now in the dumpster... I know this isn't much help, but at least you know there's another approach as well. Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a Using Debian GNU/Linux sticker?
On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 13:14 +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linas Žvirblis wrote: [snip] Of course, certain types of glue on certain surfaces tend to leave ugly sticky stains, but they can usually be removed with alcohol. But use it only as a last resort, and be very careful - alcohol can melt certain plastics. You mean '(dis)-solve'. That's why I didn't recommend ethanol, but an alcohol with a longer chain. Actually, longer chain alcohols are much more likely to soften many (if not most) plastics than shorter chain ones. Differences that people may see between ethanol and e.g. propanol can be influenced strongly by the presence of water (rubbing alcohol--30% water, vs. relatively pure grain alcohol--5% water). It's a messy business. :) Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan
Re: connecting HP Pavilion zv5260 to a tv
On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:07 -0700, Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote: Andrew J. Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a HP Pavilion zv5260 laptop. Today I got the HP XC1000 media cable from ebay to solve the problem with power jack. The cable has an s-video and my laptop's video card has a video-out. What kind of video hardware do you have? Sony Plasma WEGA Flat Panel Color Television KZ-32TS1. That among other supports s-video connection. And NVIDIA GeForce 4 440 Go. The laptop has One Vga(15 pin) and One TV-Out (S-video) external ports. I have an NV card as well, which I will be hooking up as soon as I find a long enough cable. Have you looked at nvtv? - daddy:~# apt-cache show nvtv Package: nvtv Priority: optional Section: admin ... Description: tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux This is a program to control the TV encoder chips on NVidia cards under Linux, in order to get tv-out with a wide range of resolutions and sizes, including overscan modes. It does even work with the free nv drivers. - Aside from that there was a recent thread with some details about the changes you'll want to make to your X config file. One response even involved your card: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2007-04/msg04185.html HTH, Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting network shares under home?
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 22:55 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:46 -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: Is it possible to mount network shares so that they will show up under each users /home? It seems alot of programs only will look at files under various folders in the file system and not look at network drives. It would be easier if the shares were located where all these programs could see them. Thanks, Eric My own approach is to mount each /home from other computers under this computer's /home as, e.g.: /home/homeDumbledore and each user then dives into their own directory on dumbledore under that link. I should have added that each user can add this to their $PATH if you want it searchable (AFAIK this isn't a problem, being an NFS share, that is). Kenward -- The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church.--Ferdinand Magellan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting network shares under home?
On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 21:46 -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: Is it possible to mount network shares so that they will show up under each users /home? It seems alot of programs only will look at files under various folders in the file system and not look at network drives. It would be easier if the shares were located where all these programs could see them. Thanks, Eric My own approach is to mount each /home from other computers under this computer's /home as, e.g.: /home/homeDumbledore and each user then dives into their own directory on dumbledore under that link. HTH, Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AMD 64 DVD Installer for Debian Lenny Hangs
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 21:31 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: I've got a new Dell running dual core AMD 64 bit processors. I thought I would try intsalling Debian Lenny on the computer. I've tried both the DVD installer for AMD 64 and the i386 CD installer for Debian Lenny. The installer hangs in the same spot with both media installation types. The installer hangs after this message is printed to the screen: io scheduler cfq registered I've tried this several times, and each time it hangs in the same spot. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this problem? Will I be able to install Debian on my system? Thanks, Scott Huey While not an expert at all, I do feel comfortable saying that you should be able to get Debian on the machine. I would suggest Etch initially (changing up to Lenny is easy), unless there is something found in Lenny that you need for the installation. What do you know about the Dell? MB? Controllers? Have you checked for compatibility issues others installing Linux (not necessarily Debian) may have had with these components (esp. the MB)? Have you tried an Ubuntu (or other) live cd to see how it fares? My own issues with my recent install led to finding out what boot options had to be included to get around a MB not fully supported at this time. You may have similar ones. The message you see involves the kernel setting up a scheduler internally. My gut tells me that that is not the source of the problem, but just the point things get to as something underneath is coming into play... HTH, Kenward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- A. Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with setting up home network
On Sat, 2007-05-05 at 10:56 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 10:47:54AM -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: Can anyone point me to some docs that would help me configure my home network? I have one machine that is setup as a file/web/mail server and then I want to access it from my laptops and desktops. These machines are a mixture of XP and Debian machines. Currently I am most intrested in getting access to the server from the debian machines first. I have tried using Samba and NFS, but I am having difficulty getting write access to the drives. I can get read access to them and I can copy stuff from the drives, but I can not get write access to the drives from the laptops etc. NFS should be dead simple to get working. Have you allowed write access in /etc/exports on the server? what are the perms on the network shares on the server? what are the perms on the mount points on the client? how are you mounting the shares on the client? these four things need to match up to make it work. A IIRC, the users/UID's need to match on NFS as well, unless there is some way to surmount it (likely lowering the security level as a consequence?). Kenward -- If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed. Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?
With a brand new ATI board I have found that I need to go outside the latest kernel (2.6.21) to get the driver for the LAN chip (an RTL 8111). It is available, but not in anyone's package, of course. Is there a generic way that I can set it up under /usr/src/modules and have it compile as a deb package? I like staying within the system, obviously, but would go outside it if this can't be done. Kenward -- With or without (religion) you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. --Physicist and Nobel Laureate Steven Weinberg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard recommendations
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 20:52 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: After doing some digging, it appears that the M57SLI board is not completely supported at this point. It needs a bios which I don't yet see on Gigabyte's site. See the following msg and replies: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-03/msg05024.html There is some type of workaround using boot parameters, but I didn't get very far past seeing a comment about Linux not seeing the two cores... My goof. Further examination? LinuxBios works well with the board, touted as being the 1st board with an Open Source bios solution. Apparently the linuxbios boots you up in a matter of seconds (3 is the record). Only trouble is with a dual boot, as it doesn't (yet) support XP (for those with a gaming appetite outside of *nix). I'm actually leaning towards the MSI K9A Platinum now. Runs cooler than many nVidia boards. I don't OC much, if any, so don't care about the extreme bios flexibility gamers look for. Antec case, silent gigabyte nvidia card, hoping for the quietest box I've made to date with a hot processor. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard recommendations
On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 12:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: ... On 03/30/07 22:44, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: ... Note to the OP. You want to use a few IDE devices. This board only has Am I misunderstanding? Why should he use multiple IDE devices if the mobo only has one IDE port? From the OP: failure and will likely do a clean install of Etch. The components which I currently have that I'd like to carry over are: - AGP nVidia GeForce 5900 (unless there's good dual-head onboard video) - 3Com PCI NIC (for dual-homed network, unless dual-LAN is available) - 2 x IDE HDDs - 1 x IDE DVD-ROM 1 x IDE DVD+-RW Ciao! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Motherboard recommendations
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 19:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: This past week my motherboard died. Again. In fact, for the third time in three years. All were BioStar M7NCD Pro or Ultra boards. I think it is time for a change (especially since apparently only one place in the world has any and those are open box with only a 15-day warranty). So, I am looking for recommondations on a new motherboard (and processor and memory, while we're at it). I have searched the list archives, but the most recent threads discussing different motherboards were from 2004. I am planning on running either 32-bit or 64-bit (doesn't make that much difference to me). I'd like to start with 2 GB RAM (maybe going to 4 GB later on), so 64-bit might be better. The hard drives currently have Sarge installed. However, I think that I may have lost some data in the failure and will likely do a clean install of Etch. The components which I currently have that I'd like to carry over are: - AGP nVidia GeForce 5900 (unless there's good dual-head onboard video) - 3Com PCI NIC (for dual-homed network, unless dual-LAN is available) - 2 x IDE HDDs - 1 x IDE DVD-ROM 1 x IDE DVD+-RW The other parts (Athlon XP CPU and 184-pin DDR memory), I imagine are a loss. I was actually hoping to get another M7NCD Ultra (as I have the other times it has failed) so that I could reuse everything. At this point, I'll go for a new board. The case I have is an Antec with a 300W power supply, but I can upgrade the case and/or power supply if necessary. Regards, -Roberto Another addition to Hugo's list would be the Gigabyte board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014 Its bigger brother got a very good review on Tom's hardware as well, FWIW. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128011 I'm thinking about the 1st (the M57SLI). Can't address the power reqs. yet. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca
Re: Motherboard recommendations
On Sat, 2007-03-24 at 15:22 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... Another addition to Hugo's list would be the Gigabyte board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014 Its bigger brother got a very good review on Tom's hardware as well, FWIW. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128011 I'm thinking about the 1st (the M57SLI). Can't address the power reqs. yet. After doing some digging, it appears that the M57SLI board is not completely supported at this point. It needs a bios which I don't yet see on Gigabyte's site. See the following msg and replies: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-03/msg05024.html There is some type of workaround using boot parameters, but I didn't get very far past seeing a comment about Linux not seeing the two cores... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Fixed] Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 11:37 -0500, cga2000 wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 02:49:23AM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 01:09 -0500, cga2000 wrote: [..] You're going to think I am persistent .. and probably talking through my *ss as well .. but did you try the vesa driver? It's as simple as duplicating the stanza that specifies the nv/nvidia driver and replacing your full-featured nvidia driver(s) by the vesa generic .. I think it's called vesa .. in Xorg's conf file .. and naturally, restarting X. Gave it a try just now, but still no go. I reconfigured console-tools and console-data as well, but no help there either. :( My understanding was that this also occurs when you do an Alt+Ctrl+Fn to try switching from an X session that was started outside of gdm to another X session. If this is the case, it strongly suggests that the problem lies with X configuration rather than with the linux console. So I'm not sure how console-tools would make a difference. But then again I have missed some of the posts in this thread. The thought was that console-tools, in which the keyboard data/layouts are set (to be used by X, as I understand things), may have been misconfigured or had bad files. I certainly had nothing pointing at a specific package or configuration that I could recognize (/etc/xorg.conf is fine), so I decided to do two things. Mind you, I know _nothing_ of X's internals and this is very likely not going to work .. The only reason I suggested this is that I once had a box with a low-end embedded SiS video chip that was behaving likewise and switching from the alpha-beta sis driver to the generic vesa let me work around the problem. I appreciate the thought and suggestions. I'm feeling quite stretched on this, with seemingly less and less that I can try. I know the feeling. Unfortunately, I don't understand the mechanisms involved when the switch occurs apart from a vague idea that there must be quite a lot going on in terms of freeing up resources -- and saving the current context in order to be able to restore your sessions and resume where you left off. If I had the same problem ... and provided you can set up an empty partition somewhere on your HD .. I would be tempted to do a minimal console-only install and then manually add Xorg .. no gnome, kde, fluxbox ..etc. and just start a couple of bare bones X sessions .. see if you still have the problem .. the strategy being to try to break down the problem into something smaller where fewer components are involved. Might be easier to get help after taking gdm out of the picture? Is the kbd package a replacement for console-tools? I'm looking for replacements now... Yes, that's the one I use on my new etch system. console-tools is installed by default because supposed to be either more mature or have more features than kbd but it is less versatile where font sizes are concerned. I took the route of deleting gdm from the system, as well as install kbd in place of console-tools. Funny thing was, when I went into aptitude to do this, aptitude had already decided to delete a good chunk of gnome for some crazy reason. Probably comes from bouncing back and forth between apt-get and aptitude... I let it all go, and --presto!-- ...things are back to normal. Gnome session was then reinstalled (my wife is used to that) without any deleterious effect. While I'm uncertain what the cause was, at least it is working as it should be. Many thanks for the thoughts, suggestions, etc. from you and Florian! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 19:21 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:18:51 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: [...] I started up gdm to give myself choices on sessions (to test fully whether this was a problem across the board with WM's) and found things working properly across the board. [EMAIL PROTECTED]! Go figure. Using gdm enables the keys. Without gdm, no go. Several oddities: I notice as I write this note is that the keyboard is no longer ... So am I correct in assuming that gdm has somehow caused this problem? I was using it for a while but decided to stop it, opting for a leaner approach to things. I don't recall when that was relative to noticing the switching terminal problem. So it sort of works at the moment. I do not know the interactions between gdm, the window managers and Xorg well enough to guess whose fault this behavior is. However, a recent post of Kent West has reminded me of something that I had forgotten. It might help to remove the xlibs package; see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/02/msg02398.html Yes, I saw the same post, and immediately removed the package. No change. Actually, it strikes me that gdm may be making up for a deficiency eleswhere, providing something that's missing. When my wife starts up a separate gnome session, the problem still exists for her window, but not for my simultaneous session through gdm. I'd like to file a bug report, but have no clue what package is responsible. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: ... I've pretty much lost track but if the OP absolutely needs a GUI logon screen .. did he try the alternatives to gdm (xdm, kdm, wdm, ..) ?? Otherwise what's wrong with .. $ startx $(which window-manager) -- 0: ... ? Is this a corporate setup where he needs to provide a GUI login screen to a crowd of users? Or is K.W. actually claiming that he must have gdm in order to be able to switch to a console and that all else fails? This latter is the situation. Any WM tried, without using gdm, fails to allow a switch out to another terminal. I can run fluxbox w/o gdm and no switching allowed. FLuxbox with gdm? Switching OK. Running another X session at the same time (e.g. my wife) w/o gdm has the problem, while my gdm-controlled session doesn't. Just my two cents .. please ignore if I missed something. No problem. Kenward Thanks, cga -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 01:09 -0500, cga2000 wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 07:38:26PM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 18:15 -0500, cga2000 wrote: ... I've pretty much lost track but if the OP absolutely needs a GUI logon screen .. did he try the alternatives to gdm (xdm, kdm, wdm, ..) ?? Otherwise what's wrong with .. $ startx $(which window-manager) -- 0: ... ? Is this a corporate setup where he needs to provide a GUI login screen to a crowd of users? Or is K.W. actually claiming that he must have gdm in order to be able to switch to a console and that all else fails? This latter is the situation. Any WM tried, without using gdm, fails to allow a switch out to another terminal. I can run fluxbox w/o gdm and no switching allowed. FLuxbox with gdm? Switching OK. Running another X session at the same time (e.g. my wife) w/o gdm has the problem, while my gdm-controlled session doesn't. Just my two cents .. please ignore if I missed something. No problem. Yes, .. and sorry I didn't reply to you directly .. I only saw your post after I had replied to F.K. .. your message was on the following screen and by the the time I page down it was too late. You're going to think I am persistent .. and probably talking through my *ss as well .. but did you try the vesa driver? It's as simple as duplicating the stanza that specifies the nv/nvidia driver and replacing your full-featured nvidia driver(s) by the vesa generic .. I think it's called vesa .. in Xorg's conf file .. and naturally, restarting X. Gave it a try just now, but still no go. I reconfigured console-tools and console-data as well, but no help there either. :( Mind you, I know _nothing_ of X's internals and this is very likely not going to work .. The only reason I suggested this is that I once had a box with a low-end embedded SiS video chip that was behaving likewise and switching from the alpha-beta sis driver to the generic vesa let me work around the problem. I appreciate the thought and suggestions. I'm feeling quite stretched on this, with seemingly less and less that I can try. Is the kbd package a replacement for console-tools? I'm looking for replacements now... Cheers, Kenward Thanks, cga -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:24 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 18:37:04 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 21:53 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 21:11:54 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
[...]
I finally caught wind of one reported error (not found in the usual
Xorg.X.log, but in the output of startx):
--
xauth: creating new authority file /home/daddy/.serverauth.12797
X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
...
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types{ include complete };
xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include pc(pc105)+us };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
Error:bad length in CompatMap
Output file /var/tmp/server-0.xkm removed
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
This might be an unrelated glitch. I currently find this error several
times in my xorg log:
(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
so there seems to be an issue at the moment with the server-0.xkm file,
but this has not blocked my terminal switching.
BScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x21, depth 24
*** WARNING: 'Workspacen' actions are deprecated! Use 'Workspace n'
instead
[I have no idea what this BScreen stuff is... fluxbox perhaps?]
I do not know fluxbox, but the message sure seems to come from your DE.
[...]
$ xmodmap -pk | grep Switch_VT
67 0xffbe (F1) 0x1008fe01 (XF86_Switch_VT_1)
68 0xffbf (F2) 0x1008fe02 (XF86_Switch_VT_2)
69 0xffc0 (F3) 0x1008fe03 (XF86_Switch_VT_3)
70 0xffc1 (F4) 0x1008fe04 (XF86_Switch_VT_4)
71 0xffc2 (F5) 0x1008fe05 (XF86_Switch_VT_5)
72 0xffc3 (F6) 0x1008fe06 (XF86_Switch_VT_6)
73 0xffc4 (F7) 0x1008fe07 (XF86_Switch_VT_7)
74 0xffc5 (F8) 0x1008fe08 (XF86_Switch_VT_8)
75 0xffc6 (F9) 0x1008fe09 (XF86_Switch_VT_9)
76 0xffc7 (F10)0x1008fe0a (XF86_Switch_VT_10)
95 0xffc8 (F11)0x1008fe0b (XF86_Switch_VT_11)
96 0xffc9 (F12)0x1008fe0c (XF86_Switch_VT_12)
06:32:58
daddy:~# xmodmap -pk | grep Switch_VT
06:33:19
daddy:~#
Something's missing here, yes?
Yes, I think we may have found the problem. If I run
xmodmap -e keycode 67 =
to remove the keycode for XF86_Switch_VT_1 then I can no longer use
CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to tty1. I can restore switching with:
xmodmap -e keycode 67 = F1 XF86_Switch_VT_1
I therefore hope that you can fix your problem by assigning these keycodes
again. Try to run
for ((i=1;i=10;i++)); do xmodmap -e keycode $((66+i)) = F$i
XF86_Switch_VT_$i; done
to set them all at once (to the values that work for me here).
This could be a bug of a package other than xlibs-* and xkb-*, which
would explain why your purging/reinstalling did not have any effect.
Something might screw around with the keycodes, for example the startup
scripts of fluxbox. You can try to find out where it happens and file a
bug report. If all else fails then it will hopefully be enough to
include the above for ... command into your own startup scripts to set
the keycodes at the beginning of each new X session.
Ah well. Ran the script (both as user and root), checked that things
were in place, but no good, no change. :(
That included an X-window shutdown/restart, and a reboot following just
to see if some process I don't recognize kept the changes from becoming
effective. All no go.
Where is XF86_Switch_VT_x defined/interpreted? If it's in the system but
not being recognized, where does that happen? While I see fluxbox as a
possible culprit, I'll point out again that the problem seems to run
across the board with any WM/DE used.
Kenward
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Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 20:39 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:24 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 18:37:04 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... 06:32:58 daddy:~# xmodmap -pk | grep Switch_VT 06:33:19 daddy:~# Something's missing here, yes? Yes, I think we may have found the problem. If I run xmodmap -e keycode 67 = to remove the keycode for XF86_Switch_VT_1 then I can no longer use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to tty1. I can restore switching with: xmodmap -e keycode 67 = F1 XF86_Switch_VT_1 I therefore hope that you can fix your problem by assigning these keycodes again. Try to run for ((i=1;i=10;i++)); do xmodmap -e keycode $((66+i)) = F$i XF86_Switch_VT_$i; done to set them all at once (to the values that work for me here). This could be a bug of a package other than xlibs-* and xkb-*, which would explain why your purging/reinstalling did not have any effect. Something might screw around with the keycodes, for example the startup scripts of fluxbox. You can try to find out where it happens and file a bug report. If all else fails then it will hopefully be enough to include the above for ... command into your own startup scripts to set the keycodes at the beginning of each new X session. Ah well. Ran the script (both as user and root), checked that things were in place, but no good, no change. :( That included an X-window shutdown/restart, and a reboot following just to see if some process I don't recognize kept the changes from becoming effective. All no go. Where is XF86_Switch_VT_x defined/interpreted? If it's in the system but not being recognized, where does that happen? While I see fluxbox as a possible culprit, I'll point out again that the problem seems to run across the board with any WM/DE used. I started up gdm to give myself choices on sessions (to test fully whether this was a problem across the board with WM's) and found things working properly across the board. [EMAIL PROTECTED]! Go figure. Using gdm enables the keys. Without gdm, no go. Several oddities: I notice as I write this note is that the keyboard is no longer inputting as UTF-8 encoding (i.e. I don't have to hit a space to have a quote mark print on its own instead of generating an umlaut, etc). Also, trying to start a gnome session failed--iceWM came up instead of Metacity, and the gnome session part froze. Lastly, VT 7 is not being used by gdm--8 is being used. But now I can switch VT's as desired as long as gdm is running. So am I correct in assuming that gdm has somehow caused this problem? I was using it for a while but decided to stop it, opting for a leaner approach to things. I don't recall when that was relative to noticing the switching terminal problem. I'll file a bug, but don't know what to complain about regarding evidence... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 21:53 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 21:11:54 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:40 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 18:20:55 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
[...]
(edited)
daddy:~# dpkg -l xlibs\*
...
||/ Name Version
+++-==-==
ii xlibs 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6
ii xlibs-data 7.1.0-11
06:16:25
daddy:~# dpkg -l xkb-data\*
...
||/ Name Version
+++-==-
ii xkb-data 0.9-4
un xkb-data-legac none
I have the same versions and everything is OK for me. (AFAIK these
packages should have the XKB definitions.)
What is your xorg keyboard config? You can run
awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
to see the relevant part.
Seems same as usual to me:
09:03:46
daddy:~# awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section InputDevice
...
That certainly looks OK to me, too.
None of this has changed since before the problematic update.
...
xev reports what I assume is a normal output for all those keys:
---
KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141,
root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112150093, (604,209), root:(752,380),
state 0x0, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False
[...]
Again, the same as for me (also the output for the other keys which I
removed).
It might indeed be the time to try purging xlibs, xlibs-data and/or
xkb-data. The quickest way is probably to use dpkg -P --force-depends
and then to reinstall immediately. You could also try to downgrade to
the previous versions of these packages to see if the bug was really
caused by the upgrade. (You probably still have the necessary .deb files
in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ unless you clean that out since the
upgrade.)
This I have tried, with no success yet. I don't have an older version
of xkb-data available, and honestly don't know where to get one. All
the packages have been purged and reinstalled, and the xlibs-data
downgraded a few notches, but no good results.
I finally caught wind of one reported error (not found in the usual
Xorg.X.log, but in the output of startx):
--
xauth: creating new authority file /home/daddy/.serverauth.12797
X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
...
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types{ include complete };
xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include pc(pc105)+us };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
Error:bad length in CompatMap
Output file /var/tmp/server-0.xkm removed
Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
...
BScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x21, depth 24
*** WARNING: 'Workspacen' actions are deprecated! Use 'Workspace n'
instead
[I have no idea what this BScreen stuff is... fluxbox perhaps?]
...
X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
xinit: connection to X server lost.
---
Another thing to check is the output of xmodmap. Here is what I get:
$ xmodmap
xmodmap: up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_L (0x7d), Meta_L (0x9c)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80)
mod5Mode_switch (0x5d), ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)
06:32:52
daddy:~# xmodmap
xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e)
lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d)
mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71)
mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4
mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
$ xmodmap -pk | grep Switch_VT
67 0xffbe (F1) 0x1008fe01 (XF86_Switch_VT_1)
68 0xffbf (F2) 0x1008fe02 (XF86_Switch_VT_2)
69 0xffc0 (F3) 0x1008fe03 (XF86_Switch_VT_3)
70 0xffc1 (F4) 0x1008fe04 (XF86_Switch_VT_4)
71 0xffc2 (F5) 0x1008fe05 (XF86_Switch_VT_5)
72 0xffc3 (F6) 0x1008fe06 (XF86_Switch_VT_6)
73 0xffc4 (F7) 0x1008fe07 (XF86_Switch_VT_7)
74 0xffc5 (F8) 0x1008fe08 (XF86_Switch_VT_8)
75 0xffc6 (F9) 0x1008fe09 (XF86_Switch_VT_9)
76 0xffc7 (F10)0x1008fe0a (XF86_Switch_VT_10)
95
Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 03:12 -0500, cga2000 wrote: On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 02:22:39AM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 01:58 -0500, cga2000 wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:37:48AM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, I recently updated Sid, and found that Ctrl-Alt-Fx does not work anymore. Video mode switching is also out, but I can kill the server with Ctrl-Alt-Bsp (though the normal shutdown works fine). This happens with Fluxbox, Xfce, and Gnome. Shot in the dark. I've this kind of behavior a couple of times and it was the video driver misbehaving. You could try: # chvt 2 Thanks for the idea. It works if I'm root. Yes. I believe you have to be root to do that. The man page doesn't say much and I have no idea whether you can run chvt suid root .. what are the implications in terms of security .. if you can yourself to some group or other so your regular non-root userid can execute chvt. Not something I do on a regular basis. I would just keep a tiny xterm some place with a root prompt and use the up arrow to recall the chvt command whenever I need it. The problem is not solved, though. I don't know about the video driver (nvidia's latest) as a possibility, except that it had to be some other package being updated, making it incompatible with the driver. Things worked before the upgrade, without a switch in the driver (I roll my own when it comes to those...). Sounds like after your upgrade the version of the driver and the version of the X server -- or some library .. or whatever .. are no longer in sync'. At least that's the general idea. That's why I suggested you give the generic VESA driver a try to (dis)prove that the nvdia driver is at fault. If it is, then you can start complaining/praying .. But at least you would have narrowed it down a bit and you would be in a better position to research possible fixes in the future. Well, I switched over to the nv driver, but no luck. Nice idea, though. Thanks! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 22:40 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 18:20:55 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 19:57 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 08:37:48 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, I recently updated Sid, and found that Ctrl-Alt-Fx does not work anymore. Video mode switching is also out, but I can kill the server with Ctrl-Alt-Bsp (though the normal shutdown works fine). This happens with Fluxbox, Xfce, and Gnome. Everything else seems to be fine. Tried to reconfigure Xorg, the kbd module, etc., with no luck. Anyone have any thoughts/hints about a fix? [...] (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap Which versions of xlibs and xkb-data do you have installed? [...] (edited) daddy:~# dpkg -l xlibs\* ... ||/ Name Version +++-==-== ii xlibs 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 ii xlibs-data 7.1.0-11 06:16:25 daddy:~# dpkg -l xkb-data\* ... ||/ Name Version +++-==- ii xkb-data 0.9-4 un xkb-data-legac none I have the same versions and everything is OK for me. (AFAIK these packages should have the XKB definitions.) What is your xorg keyboard config? You can run awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see the relevant part. Seems same as usual to me: 09:03:46 daddy:~# awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Emulate3Buttons false Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection None of this has changed since before the problematic update. Perhaps I should do a --force purge/reinstall of the packages you mentioned? Another way to poke at this is to run xev from an xterm (or similar) and check what kind of key press/release events are reported for ALT, CTRL and the function keys. Maybe this will give us a hint what is wrong with your keyboard configuration. Do you have a special/old/unusual keyboard? Don't think so--it's ATT brand and has worked fine for quite a while. xev reports what I assume is a normal output for all those keys: --- KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112150093, (604,209), root:(752,380), state 0x0, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112150188, (604,209), root:(752,380), state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112169465, (700,126), root:(848,297), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112169565, (700,126), root:(848,297), state 0x4, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112173704, (699,131), root:(847,302), state 0x0, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x141, root 0x119, subw 0x0, time 3112173777, (699,131), root:(847,302), state 0x0, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: --- -- Regards, Florian Thanks for help with probing this--it's certainly not up my particular alley. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
Hi,
I recently updated Sid, and found that Ctrl-Alt-Fx does not work
anymore. Video mode switching is also out, but I can kill the server
with Ctrl-Alt-Bsp (though the normal shutdown works fine). This happens
with Fluxbox, Xfce, and Gnome.
Everything else seems to be fine.
Tried to reconfigure Xorg, the kbd module, etc., with no luck.
Anyone have any thoughts/hints about a fix?
I appreciate any help!
Kenward
The log file before this problem:
...
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Generic Keyboard: Core Keyboard
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) Generic Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbModel: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) Generic Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(**) Option Protocol ImPS/2
(**) Configured Mouse: Device: /dev/input/mice
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
(**) Option Emulate3Buttons false
(**) Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
(**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 9
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse (type:
MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Generic Keyboard (type:
KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device NVIDIA Event Handler (type:
Other)
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types{ include complete };
xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include pc(pc105)+us };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
Could not init font path
element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueTyp
e, removing from list!
SetGrabKeysState - disabled
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or
directory)
...
after:
...
(II) Initializing extension GLX
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Generic Keyboard: Core Keyboard
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) Generic Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbModel: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) Generic Keyboard: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) Generic Keyboard: CustomKeycodes disabled
(**) Option Protocol ImPS/2
(**) Configured Mouse: Device: /dev/input/mice
(**) Configured Mouse: Protocol: ImPS/2
(**) Configured Mouse: Core Pointer
(**) Option Device /dev/input/mice
(==) Configured Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
(**) Configured Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
(**) Configured Mouse: Buttons: 9
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Configured Mouse (type:
MOUSE)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Generic Keyboard (type:
KEYBOARD)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device NVIDIA Event Handler (type:
Other)
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types{ include complete };
xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols { include pc(pc105)+us };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc104) };
(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
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Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 19:57 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 08:37:48 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, I recently updated Sid, and found that Ctrl-Alt-Fx does not work anymore. Video mode switching is also out, but I can kill the server with Ctrl-Alt-Bsp (though the normal shutdown works fine). This happens with Fluxbox, Xfce, and Gnome. Everything else seems to be fine. Tried to reconfigure Xorg, the kbd module, etc., with no luck. Anyone have any thoughts/hints about a fix? [...] (WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap Which versions of xlibs and xkb-data do you have installed? -- Regards, Florian (edited) daddy:~# dpkg -l xlibs\* ... ||/ Name Version +++-==-== ii xlibs 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 ii xlibs-data 7.1.0-11 06:16:25 daddy:~# dpkg -l xkb-data\* ... ||/ Name Version +++-==- ii xkb-data 0.9-4 un xkb-data-legac none I'll likely try another update tonight just to see the package list... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Writer Processor (was Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian ...)
On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 21:44 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: ... Actually, my work is plain fiction, and the only features I need are basic editing, but the feature that I used the most was using headers to mark places and using the outline view to quickly locate different sections. I am getting older (I remember having to learn WP 5.1 at school) and my memory isn't what it used to be. I find myself having to look back to ensure that I keep names consistent. Can't very well have Kathy do something then have Karmen say later that she did it. It would probably help to keep index cards, but I am far to lazy. My best writing comes off the cuff. LyX should work well for you after reading the intro (which will get you going). It handles what you describe above quite well. The LyX list is **excellent** at supporting any type of question, too. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode
On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 01:58 -0500, cga2000 wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:37:48AM EST, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi, I recently updated Sid, and found that Ctrl-Alt-Fx does not work anymore. Video mode switching is also out, but I can kill the server with Ctrl-Alt-Bsp (though the normal shutdown works fine). This happens with Fluxbox, Xfce, and Gnome. Shot in the dark. I've this kind of behavior a couple of times and it was the video driver misbehaving. You could try: # chvt 2 Thanks for the idea. It works if I'm root. The problem is not solved, though. I don't know about the video driver (nvidia's latest) as a possibility, except that it had to be some other package being updated, making it incompatible with the driver. Things worked before the upgrade, without a switch in the driver (I roll my own when it comes to those...). Cheers, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 23:20 +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. F.u...k, #%[EMAIL PROTECTED] 5^%^*(@ %$$%^$ Oki, I can install my favorite Firefox from other packages, but do you realize, that I would like to be asked if I want to use this f..u...k...ng %^*( *##$$ ^^% Iceweasle instead of Firefox? Good luck with using losers... ups I mean: losing users! :P Ah! A genuine Vulgarian! What a pleasant surprise! I predict many friends in your future.. ($100 please.) HAND, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Setting a large kernel.shmmax... consequences?
Hi, I'm setting up my home machine to do some QM calculations using GAMESS, and the docs point out the desirability of upping the shared memory allowances (in fact, it's outright needed in some cases). I have 512 Mb at this time, and am considering setting the shmmax size to 75% of that. What I don't know is the consequence this has (if any) on how stuff operates. I could create a script to set/reset it anytime I do this sort of thing, or simply set it permanently in /etc/sysctl.conf and forget it. Does anyone have some idea what efect this would have on other things? I'm not a heavy, 50 things going at once, type of user, but normally have X going (GAMESS is command line, but there are some Web-based and other GUI's for it that I'm checking out for teaching in class). Thanks for thoughts! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switching graphics cards, how?
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:42:14AM -0800, Alan Ianson wrote: On Wed January 3 2007 10:35, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 10:28:36 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: My old Matrox video card is dying. I have a new e-geforce 6200 and an Etch system. I have picked up on some issues about drivers for mVidia cards, but have no idea whether they are show stoppers for my using this 6200. And I have no clear idea as to how to reconfigure xorg most simply. I think it should just work -- if I type the right command at the right time. Am I correct? What is the magic command? Where should I look for a good guide to trouble shooting, before I get into trouble? The nv driver of Xorg supports Geforce 6XXX cards, but it only offers 2D acceleration. If that is good enough for you (and assuming that the e-Geforce has the same chipset), it should be as easy as running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root, selecting the nv driver (should be auto-detected anyway) and starting X afterwards. If you want 3D acceleration then you will need the proprietary nvidia driver. A good source of information is http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ The nvidia drivers are available in etch/sid now. Just select the driver for your kernel along with nvidia-glx (and nvidia-glx-ia32 for 32bit app support on a 64bit system) along with nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig if desired.. :) The source is available as well if you roll your own kernel. Be sure to check the information that comes with it for what setings are needed within the kernel (I seem to remember that there is some option you **don't** choose in the config that one might otherwaie pick). Using make-kpkg works well. The only thing to watch for are xorg upgrades which require new driver versions. If you stay on top of that (either by redoing the kernel/module or holding xorg until the dust settles... ;-) then you won't run into problems. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking CPU Recomendations
On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 08:39:02PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 02:20:47PM -0800, Kevin Ross wrote: You didn't say what kind of camcorder you have. Is it a digital camcorder, that you can download the video via FireWire or USB 2.0? Or does it only have analog output that you must capture with a traditional video capture card? The camera is a Sony Digital 8 DCR-TRV525 NTSC. It has a firewire port. There are instructions for downloading video to the camera but none for writing from it directly to a file on a hard drive. How is this sychronized? You should use Kino, unless there is some reason it's unsuitable for you (I'm coming into this thread just now). Plug in the Sony via a Firewire card, turn it on as a player, and fire up Kino. You control it from Kino, which does all the rest. It works well. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happy New Year to all the developers and helpers on Debian!
Folks, You do a wonderful job, keeping the best dist. flowing along and helping those who need it, on this list. I started with Debian and can't see myself changing ever. It works too well, even for a bumbling hobbyist like myself. Please, PLEASE keep up the great work that is needed for a project and community like this to thrive! My new year's hat is off to you all! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital pictures: reordering and renaming (in a different way)
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 09:00:19PM -0500, H.S. wrote: H.S. wrote: ... In Windows XP, it is also possible to drag and drop the images files in the desired order and one can also rename the files. The format is a bit better than in Picasa, though still limited, but all files get numbered. However, in XP the numbering format is easily refined using a shell script afterwards. So, this is a surprise for me actually (and a pleasant one for my Windows user friends) that this dragging and dropping files to order them and then to rename them in a batch mode was more easily accomplised in Windows than in Linux. Oh well ... So comforting to know that I can do that between freezes on my S.P.2'd gaming partition... ;-) Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: digital pictures: reordering and renaming (in a different way)
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 12:29:51AM -0500, H.S. wrote: Hello, I have a few hundred digital pictures scanned from negatives. Now when the negatives were scanned, the ordering was kind of lost. So now I have these sequential digital image files but their content is out of order. I am looking for an application that will do the following: 1. Out of all the image files in a folder in konqueror (or in nautilus), it allows me to 'move' the images, in the folder view, to different places in the window. Basically, I am reording some of the files by moving them with the mouse. 2. Then, it allows me to select some files and let me rename all of those selected files sequentially in the order that they appear in the folder view. Something like a batch mode. Basically, the above method will allow me to 'move' the image files in the folder view to their new 'place' in the order I have in mind. Once that is done, then a batch command allows me to rename the selected files sequentially. The second step is easily done with digikam. But what about the first one? Hope I have explained this clearly enough. Suggestions? Advice? If push comes to shove, I can always sit on a weekend and manually renumber the images. I use gthumb for this sort of thing (batch renaming, etc), though it doesn't do any kind of reordering of the listings. My thought on that part would be to create some temp dirs and move them to those dirs--files can be marked using ctrl-LMB then moved as a group. Gthumb can do that as well, as (I'm sure) can other apps. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: document processing
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 09:21:50PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: I'm revisiting how I make documents. I have been using lout since I started with linux in 2000 but it has the following shortcomimgs: Difficult to change things like margins Can't make html plain text output has blank lines that must be edited. My primary use is for letters and notes but also larger projects. I don't like wysiwyg. I want to be able to make: ps, pdf, txt, html. Something like DebianDoc seems overkill for a letter. I want something that is simple, probably a markup language, but without excessivly long tags or difficulty changing things like margins for non-html output. What do people find works well? ... LyX Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broadcom 4401
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 10:25:39AM +0300, Andras Lorincz wrote: Hello, I'm using debian testing with kernel _2_._6_._1_7_._1_3 and have an integrated broadcom 4401 NIC. I saw some bug reports about it on _b_u_g_z_i_l_l_a_._k_e_r_n_e_l_._o_r_g and some hints for workaround like: pass parameter acpi=off, pci=noacpi to the kernel, or remove from the kernel acpi support, or try drivers from _b_r_o_a_d_c_o_m_._c_o_m, but none of them works. The problem is that under heavy load the the NIC is not able to transfer data (for example when copying much data from the network) and can be made working just after a reboot. Does anyone has such a NIC and got it working? Mine just works. Can't address the load question other than I've never had an issue with upgrades, etc. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca
Re: Getting Linux and XP to cooperate on the BIOS clock settings
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 07:42:18PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dual-boot system, running XP Pro and Debian linux. After switching from sarge to etch, I kept seeing a message on linux boot about Superblock last write time is in the future. Fix? yes. The boot proceeds normally after that, but I don't like inexplicable error messages, so I did some searching on the net. Apparently, it had something to do with my bios clock being set to local time, rather than UTC. The recommended fix was to set the bios clock to UTC, which I did. However, when running XP, my system clock will periodically reset itself to the hardware clock, and the time jumps ahead four hours. This causes problems with some audio recording I do in XP, as the program I use is set to start at a certain time, and to split the audio file every hour. I found some articles about an XP registry key called RealTimeIsUniversal, and I tried that, but it didn't help. I disabled the Windows Time Service, since I use a third-party application to synchronize my system clock to 0.us.pool.ntp.org a few times per day, but something is still resetting the system time to the bios clock every so often. Is there a way I can get these two operating systems to agree on how to set a clock? I told Windows to go with UTC. Takes a while to get used to the display (if I bother to look). I don't care much about what Windows displays anyway (I'm rarely there...). I realize that this doesn't fit others' needs, though. Linux naturally is set to deal with the HWC set to UTC, which a while ago was good considering some bug in libc, IIRC. (That's when I made the jump form local to UTC.) Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Solved] Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me...
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:00:46PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... 'Twas the latter, as it turned out. Simple misconfiguration having a different server (smtp.earthlink.net) than the one which worked with swaks. Thanks for the suggestion, Kevin, as it allowed me to play with settings against their two possible servers. And thanks to Mike for his settings, which pointed out the fact that I had missed the glaring domain inclusion in the login name on the Earthlink site. I apologize for leaving Kent out--while I didn't try telnetting into the server, his track was similar to what swaks did for me. (I also admit to not knowing what I would have done if I had connected.) But his thoughts were appreciated. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?
On 09/26/2006 11:59:03 AM, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi Kevin, I'll try this once I have a chance when I get home. ... -Original Message- From: Kevin Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:03:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. ... Hi Kenward, apt-get install swaks and show what settings made if work. cheers, Kev I changed Balsa's settings as well (adding the domain to my login name) with success. With a bit of reading, the following worked with swaks: === daddy:~# swaks -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s smtpauth.earthlink.net -tlso -a -au [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ap abcdefghijklmnop === Trying smtpauth.earthlink.net:25... === Connected to smtpauth.earthlink.net. - 220-elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net ESMTP Exim 4.34 #1 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:37:20 -0400 - 220-NO UCE. EarthLink does not authorize the use of its computers or network - 220 equipment to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited e- mail. - EHLO hpotter.vaughan.home - 250-elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net Hello hpotter.vaughan.home [70.92.98.186] - 250-SIZE 14680064 - 250-PIPELINING - 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5 - 250-STARTTLS - 250 HELP - STARTTLS - 220 TLS go ahead === TLS started w/ cipher BDT854-SHA ~ EHLO hpotter.vaughan.home ~ 250-elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net Hello hpotter.vaughan.home [70.92.98.186] ~ 250-SIZE 14680064 ~ 250-PIPELINING ~ 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN CRAM-MD5 ~ 250 HELP ~ AUTH CRAM-MD5 ~ 334 PDIzNDg0LjExNTkzMzUjUbbFZWxhc210cC1qdW5jby5hdGwuc2EuZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldD4= ~ a2F5X2pheUBlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0IGViNzY3MzVhNWIwZWYyMGRkMjQzNzE2Y2U4OTRmYTc3 ~ 235 Authentication succeeded ~ MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 250 OK ~ RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 250 Accepted ~ DATA ~ 354 Enter message, ending with . on a line by itself ~ Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:37:20 -0700^M ~ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Subject: test Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:37:20 -0700^M ~ X-Mailer: swaks v20060621.0 jetmore.org/john/code/#swaks^M ~ ~ This is a test mailing^M ~ ~ . ~ 250 OK id=1GSS6j-00066m-FB ~ QUIT ~ 221 elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net closing connection === Connection closed with remote host. 10:37:21^M daddy:~# exit Script done on Tue 26 Sep 2006 10:37:24 PM PDT === My question changes to the obvious. Now that it worked so easily with that small change in Balsa/Kmail, what is wrong with my Exim setup? Is it some rewriting rule or choice I made in running its configuration which screwed things up? The /etc/exim4/passwd.client file: # password file used when the local exim is authenticating to a remote # host as a client. # # see passwd_client(5) for more documentation # # Example: ### target.mail.server.example:login:password #207.69.189.201:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.202:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.203:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.204:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.205:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.206:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.207:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #207.69.189.208:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:abcdefghijklmnop #206.89.93.20*:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #209.86.93.210:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #209.86.93.211:kay_jay:abcdefghijklmnop #*:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:abcdefghijklmnop smtpauth.earthlink.net:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:abcdefghijklmnop Many thanks for the information so far! Kenward
[Solved] Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me...
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:07:47PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: On 09/26/2006 11:59:03 AM, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi Kevin, I'll try this once I have a chance when I get home. ... -Original Message- From: Kevin Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:03:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. ... Hi Kenward, apt-get install swaks and show what settings made if work. cheers, Kev ... === daddy:~# swaks -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s smtpauth.earthlink.net -tlso -a -au [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ap abcdefghijklmnop === Trying smtpauth.earthlink.net:25... === Connected to smtpauth.earthlink.net. ... ~ This is a test mailing^M ~ ~ . ~ 250 OK id=1GSS6j-00066m-FB ~ QUIT ~ 221 elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net closing connection === Connection closed with remote host. ... My question changes to the obvious. Now that it worked so easily with that small change in Balsa/Kmail, what is wrong with my Exim setup? Is it some rewriting rule or choice I made in running its configuration which screwed things up? The /etc/exim4/passwd.client file: ... smtpauth.earthlink.net:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:abcdefghijklmnop 'Twas the latter, as it turned out. Simple misconfiguration having a different server (smtp.earthlink.net) than the one which worked with swaks. Thanks for the suggestion, Kevin, as it allowed me to play with settings against their two possible servers. And thanks to Mike for his settings, which pointed out the fact that I had missed the glaring domain inclusion in the login name on the Earthlink site. And MANY THANKS to Earthlink for proving once again that the Linux/Debian community is far superior to such companies in their responsiveness to requests for help. At least the tech side has the intelligence to use Exim on their servers... Cheers, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?
Hi Kevin, I'll try this once I have a chance when I get home. I don't have the other replies in front of me (since those are sucked home from the school's server during the night), but did find that using a login name which included the domain did the trick for Kmail. This I noted in one of those emails. I don't know about configuring exim for the client side stuff, though. Does it try variations until a fit is found, or what? Something's still amiss there, since changing the login name in the /etc/exim4/client.passwd file (I think that's the name of it) did not unfreeze the longish list waiting to be delivered (I restarted exim, of course). Kenward -- .'^~;,_ Dr. Kenward Vaughan `:,'~ Professor of Chemistry\;:/ Bakersfield College |,;| 1801 Panorama Drive / ', \ Bakersfield, CA 93305 / o O \ 661-395-4243 (oOoOOoOo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ ???$$MM$$??? -Original Message- From: Kevin Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP? On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:03:21PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. I couldn't figure out originally what the issue was, until I tried using both Balsa and Kmail instead of mutt/exim. The error messages returned indicated that they needed to be configured for authentication. Fine. Set that up, seemingly no-brainer choices in the menus, including a test to see what the server supported. Nothing works. Tried all combinations the apps gave me. Tried to configure exim4 to do the same, putting the full addresses that host gave me for smtp.earthlink.net and smtpauth.earthlink.net along with a user ID/password for each. Even added the option about using clear text over unencrypted lines. All no go. I've got a bunch of frozen messages, with no place to go. I chatted with Earthlink, which was futile. We do not support alternate OS's. I told them both in the chat and questionaire at the end that such an attitude really stank, that they would lose me if I don't find an answer from somewhere, and that this was no good for their good will in the community. I looked through their docs on reconfiguring various email apps and plugged in those values into Kmail/Balsa with no luck (includin a port of 587 for the smtpauth addresses). Doesn't someone out there have an earthlink account, and how do you set things up? Is something sitting there staring me in the face that will work? TIA, Hi Kenward, apt-get install swaks and show what settings made if work. cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org |
ISP has screwed up smtp for me... what to try? New ISP?
Hi folks, I hate writing this from my school's web access page, but I suddenly lost the ability to send emails from home. Receiving is fine. Nothing had changed at my end from the night before, when I had no problems. My ISP is Earthlink. I couldn't figure out originally what the issue was, until I tried using both Balsa and Kmail instead of mutt/exim. The error messages returned indicated that they needed to be configured for authentication. Fine. Set that up, seemingly no-brainer choices in the menus, including a test to see what the server supported. Nothing works. Tried all combinations the apps gave me. Tried to configure exim4 to do the same, putting the full addresses that host gave me for smtp.earthlink.net and smtpauth.earthlink.net along with a user ID/password for each. Even added the option about using clear text over unencrypted lines. All no go. I've got a bunch of frozen messages, with no place to go. I chatted with Earthlink, which was futile. We do not support alternate OS's. I told them both in the chat and questionaire at the end that such an attitude really stank, that they would lose me if I don't find an answer from somewhere, and that this was no good for their good will in the community. I looked through their docs on reconfiguring various email apps and plugged in those values into Kmail/Balsa with no luck (includin a port of 587 for the smtpauth addresses). Doesn't someone out there have an earthlink account, and how do you set things up? Is something sitting there staring me in the face that will work? TIA, Kenward
Re: Horrible mouse problems under Sid with 2.6.17, latest xorg
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 03:31:18PM -0400, David Bruce wrote: For some time I have had problems with the mouse becoming erratic (losing synch?) and generating a flurry of click events, generally opening a bunch of Konq windows and inserting random cuts/pastes and other click events into whatever I happen to be working on (most commonly coding with KDevelop). I cannot reliably reproduce the behavior - usually starts a few minutes into session and seems to perhaps occur mainly when I have the mouse over the bottom of the screen at the Kicker bar. Usually, but not always, the mouse becomes unresponsive after the unwanted activity subsides. Restarting X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspc does not restore normal mouse behavior. My system - home built Athlon 2400 PC, Mitsumi scroll mouse. - Linux 2.6.17 source from debian, built by me with make-kpkg - no power management enabled in kernel config. - kernel config mouse support for PS/2 - ImPS/2 selected in xorg.conf; scroll enabled My wife is begging me to get rid of that @#$% Debian thing and go back to Windows. Any ideas? I've had the same on and off, similar system, USB mouse. My xorg.conf file has this: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice # Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons false Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 I changed xorg's idea of a mouse to the ImPS/2 protocol and double checked gpm, which for me runs with /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t autops2 -r 40 Don't know if this will help you or not... Did you check for bug reports? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Incorrect version of xserver-xorg in unstable
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:41:41PM -0500, Kent West wrote: Drew Parsons wrote: By now you shouldn't need to downgrade to testing's version since a new version of the old version has now been uploaded to unstable, 2:1.0.2-10. This repairs the mistaken upload, overturning my warning email. Systems will be restored with the next mirror pulse of unstable. Thanks for the explanations, and for the work behind the scenes. I think you DDs are doing a most excellent job! Ditto here, Drew. And thanks for using the Subject line you chose. After futzing around for a bit with no clue about the true nature of the problem (nvidia had nothing new, and the nv driver bombed totally), I easily picked up your post in the usual scan mode I use with the list. Too many posts disappear this way because of poor subject lines. They ought to take a lesson... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cups newbie
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:29:24PM +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobica wrote: Thank you all for replying to my post. I will answer individually to all of you. If anyone still know how to help me I will appreciate any hint. Russell L. Harris wrote: To use the CUPS webadmin page, the username is 'root' and the password is the password of 'root'. I can't get to that, I am not asked any user/password. http://localhost:631/ works but none of the links from there like http://localhost:631/admin/ etc. Colin wrote: Or you could add your user to the lpadmin group and use that user's name and password. I can't do that, I am not asked any user/password. (See my original post). ... I'm coming into this in the middle, so I don't know what your original post had in it. Yet, your response to the above suggests a possible misunderstanding of the thought offered by Colin. From the console or an xterm window, type id and see if you, the user, have lpadmin listed as one of your groups. If so, then do send the contents of your cupsd.conf file, since the following won't apply (unless you never logged completely off since being added to the group--if so, see below). If not, log in as root at the console or an xterm window. Then type adduser yourLoginName lpadmin Log out of X-window COMPLETELY, to the point that you must log back in as the user at the console (or gdm/kdm/whatever), and restart X-window. Now try again to access things under localhost:631, using your name and password (not root's) when asked. HTH, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: weird ls behavior after ln/rm of dir from other user
On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:35:03AM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 12.08.06 21:43, Kenward Vaughan wrote: While trying to make a mounted directory containing images available to my wife on another computer, I created a soft link in her home dir, to the /usr/local/film subdirectory (which I had already mounted through a soft link in my own home dir). She could not read the contents from her computer. -- 06:19:07 daddy:~# ls -l /usr/local/film/ total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/camera ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/cd ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/lost+found ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/movies ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/temp ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/vaughanPix try ls -ld /usr/local/film, it looks like she has only read permission for that directory, so she may not access files through it (it required execute right on dir), so she may not even fount any informations about files/directories inside. The problem involved my own directory, not hers (this got clipped out in your quoting). According tot he results as root, the mask was 755, so I had execute permissions. I went back and reset the owner and permissions for the directory (recursively) to root.staff and 775, and things work again. I can't figure out what the heck happened, though. Thanks for your thoughts! Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird ls behavior after ln/rm of dir from other user
While trying to make a mounted directory containing images available to my wife on another computer, I created a soft link in her home dir, to the /usr/local/film subdirectory (which I had already mounted through a soft link in my own home dir). She could not read the contents from her computer. I deleted her soft link, tried it again in a different location, and deleted again. From my own directory now, I get a really weird result when trying to see the directory itself: -- 06:19:07 daddy:~# ls -l /usr/local/film/ total 0 ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/camera ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/cd ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/lost+found ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/movies ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/temp ?- ? ? ? ?? /usr/local/film/vaughanPix 06:19:10 daddy:~# su Password: [1] DoneHISTIGNORE= hpotter:/home/daddy# ls -l /usr/local/film/ total 36 drwxrwxr-x 6 daddy daddy 4096 2006-06-03 12:35 camera drwxrwxr-x 4 daddy daddy 4096 2006-08-12 16:36 cd drwx-- 2 root root 16384 2005-01-21 19:43 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 daddy daddy 4096 2006-05-28 00:17 movies drwxr-xr-x 3 daddy daddy 4096 2006-06-04 08:50 temp drwxr-xr-x 17 daddy daddy 4096 2006-06-02 10:41 vaughanPix I don't know if something got screwed via NFS or a misplaced/lost link or whatever, but cannot get it smoothed out. I ran e2fsck with no luck, rebooted with no change, and don't know what else to do. My wife can see the contents of the directory like root. Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions about this? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Using a wireless router as a point of access to LAN
Hi, I've been using a wireless router (Netgear wgr614, a present from my sister) to connect a now-mobile computer to my home LAN. This replaced an old 486 I was using. Well, the darned thing stopped working (Internet port seems to be non-functional), so I slapped my Debian-based 486 back into place, and am now trying to use the wireless, Internet-less router as a way of getting that computer onto the LAN. I have the router hooked through one of its other wired ports into a switch which handles the other computers. The mobile box connects to the Netgear box, and can ping, telnet, etc., other machines on the LAN, but it does not make it outside. I cannot ping a numeric IP address (destination port unreachable from the 486 gateway) or anything like ftp.debian.org (times out). I have given the Netgear box a static LAN address of its own. The Netgear box is the obvious problem, as the mobile box used to work when hard-wired to the switch like all others. But I have no idea what is wrong with the configuration. Or is this a setup which has no chance of working? Many thanks for any help with this... What else can I provide info-wise which would help? The 486 is set up as gateway/firewall, usual setup with Shorewall. Do I need to change the configuration there, perhaps? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solved] Re: [OT] Using a wireless router...
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 05:26:57PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenward Vaughan wrote: can ping, telnet, etc., other machines on the LAN, but it does not make it outside. I cannot ping a numeric IP address (destination port unreachable from the 486 gateway) or anything like ftp.debian.org (times out). Is there a default route in the Netgear, a gateway to the rest of the universe? It sounds to me like you're able to reach addresses on the network connected to the Netgear, but nobody knows what to do to get beyond that network. $*#%$!! I screwed around with this for quite a while today/night, and finally got it working. Tried to backtrack by deleting various things set up, to determine the point which made the difference (since most of what I tried made no sense to me anyway). Things stopped working unexpectedly, and couldn't be restarted by reversing stuff. Then I suddenly remembered that the mobile box used to be my son's--he got a bit too tied up in online games so we moved it out and zapped his account on it. I never changed the old 486's firewall, which was set to open up only at certain times for him. Adjusted Shorewall's rules... Done deal. Gotta remember Sherlock Holmes' comments about what to look for when all other possibilities have been eliminated... is this a setup which has no chance of working? No. It oughta work. The players just need to be told where the doors are. - -- Glenn English Thanks for the motivating thoughts, Glenn. My playing around with everything, based on these, brought it together for me finally. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please suggest a video capture software
On Wed, Jul 19, 2006 at 04:31:54PM +0530, Santanu Chatterjee wrote: Hi Everybody, I want a program that will allow me to capture video from my TV Tuner card AND at the same time show (in a window) what I am capturing. It should be able to capture both video and audio (audio via the line in of my on board sound card). ... I know nothing about this area, but you might scrounge through the results of an 'apt-cache search video capture' command... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Digital Camera Flash Memory won't Mount
On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 02:16:37PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: My girlfriend has a Sony Mavica MVC FD200 with Flash Memory cards. The card reader is a Dazzle USB card reader. It mounts just fine with Windows XP, but does not mount with Debian. Hi. Jumping into the middle of this thread, so ... Most likely it seems you are missing something in the kernel end of things. Some stupid, lttle option that would make it work. I suggest gathering all the info you can on getting USB and USB readers together off the 'Net, then compare that with what your kernel has available... Googling around produced simply reports of problems reading these things at all. One recommended using Belkin, but another recommended against Belkin, for example. I found more than one How To, but thjey were dated ca.2001, and seemed to be more how to mount *any* USB device, rather than specifically how to use cameras, and was more about how to install the USB support modules. This machine mounts an external USB hard drive with no problems. Hard drives and other devices don't share all the same options in the kernel. Mike Hi, I have a Sweex 6-in-1 memory card reader. It came with Linux drivers on cd (although I've not connected it to my Linux machine, I don't expect any problems). I learned that most problems come from vendors who don't commit to usb standards. Manon. Do the drivers match the particular kernel you are using? Or are these external, user access apps.? Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: SloppyFocus for fluxbox
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 11:33:09PM +0200, T wrote: Hi Upgraded from Debian stable into testing, I notice one most important feature missing from fluxbox -- the SloppyFocus mode. Ie, the mode of traditional X behaviour -- auto raise the window when the mouse stay on a window for a while. Anybody else misses the feature? what's the workaround? thank. PS my fluxbox: Installed: 0.9.14-1.2 Candidate: 0.9.14-1.2 Running Sid, same version of fluxbox, and I can get that behavior by choosing Configuration Focus Model Auto Raise. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user: Firewire?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:03:53PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 7/13/06, Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 7/13/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What work has to be done depends on whether your dist. has it compiled in for the stock kernels. Apparently Debian's have it. I see it should be in there now, but this is from http://www.linux1394.org/start_req.php : Patience. The applications for working with IEEE 1394 are not yet mature, and problems and compatibility issues exist. Do not be surprised if something does not work. Also, all of the known applications are not yet distributed in a binary format, so you must compile and install them yourself. This could take quite a bit of time and energy if you are not familiar with Linux administration and/or programming. Daunting, but I don't have much choice. -Chuckk ... Hmm. I use Kino with my videocam via Firewire. Works wonderfully, and it's all packaged. Seems to me that the potential problem is not in the kernel end of things but rather the particular app. being used. It's been rare that I didn't get the help needed when I had to compile/install my own stuff, and had problems. YMMV obviously. I don't recall what specific app was up with the OP... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user: Firewire?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 08:27:32PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 7/13/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuckk Hubbard wrote: A non-programmer. I read that IP-over-FireWire can only be done in Linux by recompiling the kernel. Maybe this was wrong. Compiling a kernel is *not* programming. It does, though, take a bit of geek knowledge. What kernel are you running? If a stock Debian binary kernel, then the work has probably been already done for you. AGNULA/DeMudi 2.6.12 It doesn't offer me any sort of option to use firewire in the Networking panel. Modem, Ethernet, Wireless, Parallel Line, and Infrared. Didn't there used to be a find option in the Debian File Browser? This is just one of those things I can't think of any possible reason not to include, but it's not there. And the Help file for File Browser is not found. Maybe I should toss AGNULA and just install Debian like I did before. ... Try searching the kernel config file under boot for IEEE1394 options: == kvaughan:~# grep IEEE1394 /boot/config-2.6.16 CONFIG_IEEE1394=m # CONFIG_IEEE1394_VERBOSEDEBUG is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_OUI_DB is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_EXTRA_CONFIG_ROMS is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_EXPORT_FULL_API is not set CONFIG_IEEE1394_OHCI1394=m CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394=m # CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2 is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_ETH1394 is not set CONFIG_IEEE1394_DV1394=m CONFIG_IEEE1394_RAWIO=m == Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user: Firewire?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 02:21:11AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... Try searching the kernel config file under boot for IEEE1394 options: == kvaughan:~# grep IEEE1394 /boot/config-2.6.16 CONFIG_IEEE1394=m # CONFIG_IEEE1394_VERBOSEDEBUG is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_OUI_DB is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_EXTRA_CONFIG_ROMS is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_EXPORT_FULL_API is not set CONFIG_IEEE1394_OHCI1394=m CONFIG_IEEE1394_VIDEO1394=m # CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2 is not set # CONFIG_IEEE1394_ETH1394 is not set CONFIG_IEEE1394_DV1394=m CONFIG_IEEE1394_RAWIO=m I'm truly stunned that SBP2 is not m. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Well, careful what you do 'till you recover. ;-) I don't know what option that is, Ron. IIRC, I followed the recs. from a site on the (certainly minimum) kernel option choices needed to get the video with kino working. Perhaps that was on the list and I missed it (unlikely), or it's new since then... Kino still works. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user: Firewire?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 12:10:58PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 7/13/06, Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Try it sometime. :) Kenward I find it all interesting, and I would like to, but my major is composition, and I deal with lots of deadlines as a musician and student. It's a fine line, how far I can go learning something so specialized, when I run both XP and OSX, in either of which I can turn out a good track in minimal time, spending most of my time writing the music. I've spend most of the last 2 days installing, learning, reinstalling Linux, googling every possible combination of letters from a QWERTY keyboard. I am drawn towards stuff like this, and I have the mind for it, but it's not what I'm here for, it's a means to an end. I do note that you, and someone on the Pure Data list, mention both 2.6.15 and 2.6.16, and the latest stable AGNULA release uses 2.6.12; if this change is necessary, then I can justify it. But it's easy for me to get caught up in this stuff and forget that I'm supposed to be composing over summer and preparing for a senior recital. Gotcha. I have similar problems. I also haven't yet seen the kind of audio software in Linux that I can use on Windows and Mac. I'm rooting for it, but other musicians not as interested in getting inside their boxes are pretty dismissive about it. -Chuckk Rosegarden-like apps? Lilypond? Nyquist? Depends on what you want in the software, and whether what is out there is radically different than what you're used to up to now (i.e. comes with a distinct learning curve). This seems to be a recurring theme, with at least a partial basis in the difference between the vision of one/several people vs. a company addressing its understanding of the people making up its market. Ease of use is as much a mindset as anything else, and a features list often serves marketing more than the actual user. Who uses even 10 or 20% of the features in any bloatware? So much for rhetoric. :) Seems to me that you should be able to try a quick compile of the missing driver. That I've never done though... Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-user: Firewire?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:54:39PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 7/13/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuckk Hubbard wrote: So do I understand correctly, that FireWire support in Linux comes only with compiling the kernel with specific add-ons? Can someone with no desire to program use FireWire? So you think/say that *everyone* who wants to use Firewire peripherals must program their own drivers? This is a troll, right? A non-programmer. I read that IP-over-FireWire can only be done in Linux by recompiling the kernel. Maybe this was wrong. What work has to be done depends on whether your dist. has it compiled in for the stock kernels. Apparently Debian's have it. I am a non-programmer (OK, OK, APL in high-school, main frame 360 out of William and Mary...). Pure hobbyist at the OS level. I always roll my own kernel. No programming involved, but it does require that you learn a chunk about your box's innards. Not hard to do, but requires patience and some time. Kernel-package makes the installation easy. For myself, grub is automatically updated, so the working older kernel is normally kept as a backup (as long as it's a version change, at least, like 2.6.15 to 2.6.16) in case what I've created turns into a monster on bootup. It's not a bad idea to have a rescue partition set up on an unused Gb chunk on your HD as well, along with a grub rescue floppy (CD?). There must be at least a few hundred primers out there on doing this. Try it sometime. :) Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fluxbox and Debian menu
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 03:08:45PM -0400, T wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:13:17 +0300, Linas wrote:
How could I make that happening to Fluxbox?
do you have the menu-xdg package installed?
menu-xdg is not needed. Fluxbox (the one in Debian at least) uses
standard Debian Menu system, and has been doing that for as long as I can
remember.
[...] Try removing
~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu file and re-running update-menus as root.
That works. Thanks a lot.
(NB, it's ~/.fluxbox/menu, BTW)
Is it possible to keep my own menu, while link to the system menu via a
Debian sub-menu?
While a little clunky, my approach uses a script:
daddy:~/.fluxbox# cat fixMenu
#!/bin/bash
# This updates the fluxbox menu, inserting my own common items
# (text file personalStuff) at the beginning of the menu.
# That includes an item to update the menu using this script.
# This must be placed in the path (in this case $HOME/bin)
# for that line item to work. See personalStuff.
cd $HOME/.fluxbox
cp /etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu fmenu
# The numbers 8 and 9 are chosen based on the standard format of the
# menu generated in /etc/X11/fluxbox.
# LOOK OUT FOR CHANGES TO THAT FILE!
head -8 fmenu H
tail --lines=+9 fmenu T
cat H personalStuff T menu
rm T H fmenu
daddy:~/.fluxbox# cat personalStuff
[exec] (Bluefish) {/usr/bin/bluefish}
[exec] (Firefox) {firefox}
[exec] (galculator) {/usr/bin/galculator}
[exec] (The GIMP) {/usr/bin/gimp}
[exec] (Gnumeric) {/usr/bin/gnumeric}
[exec] (Lyx) {/usr/bin/lyx-qt}
[exec] (Xfig) {/usr/bin/xfig -nosplash}
[exec] (Terminal) {/usr/bin/rxvt}
[submenu] (Chemistry) {}
[exec] (chemtool) {chemtool}
[exec] (Chimera) {/usr/local/chimera/bin/chimera}
[exec] (garlic) {/usr/bin/garlic}
[exec] (gdis) {/usr/bin/gdis}
[exec] (GPeriodic) {gperiodic}
[exec] (King) {/home/daddy/bin/king}
[exec] (Mage) {/home/daddy/bin/mage}
[exec] (prekin) {/home/daddy/bin/prekin}
[exec] (Rasmol) { x-terminal-emulator -T Rasmol -e /usr/bin/rasmol}
[end]
[exec] (-- update menu --) {fixMenu}
[exec] ( ) {/usr/bin/true}
daddy:~/.fluxbox#
===
HTH,
Kenward
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Re: Solution: Fluxbox and Debian menu
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:49:48PM -0400, T wrote:
Thank you all who replied.
My own personal Fluxbox menu will help
- add a menu not supplied by the author/maintainer
- add my own shortcuts
...
The Debian sub-menu will point to the auto-updated system menu, and also
I can keep my personal settings as well. For example, the CD-Rom sub-menu
will alow me to open/close my CD via menu and mouse clicks...
[begin] (Fluxbox)
[submenu] (CD-Rom)
[exec] (Open) {eject}
[exec] (Close) {eject -t}
[end]
[submenu] (Debian)
[include] (/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu)
[end]
[reconfig] (Reconfigure)
[restart] (Restart)
[exit] (Exit)
[end]
The include statement I hadn't seen before. This simplified my earlier
response a lot, eh? I like it...
Kenward
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[Partially Solved] Re: CUPS (1.2) is screwed up totally...
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 09:34:24AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... It is also weird that CUPS identifies my usb printer (the Epson) with /dev/lp0, which is a parallel port. I'm wondering whether there is some problem with udev or the like. There is no /dev/usb directory, unlike the information below suggests. Is this because of the existence of the /udev/.static directory??? Again, my system sees the printers properly (via hwinfo): ... Part of the problem is apparently fixed, and it _is_ a udev rule--a local one I had constructed for use with autofs. I was looking for a way to directly access camera cards in the reader found on the Epson printer. Either it's not specific enough, or they aren't separable. At this point, though, eliminating the rule suddenly allowed CUPS to properly see the Epson's location (usb vs. parallel). I have not tried to reinstate the rule, now that the printer definition has been created. That should be interesting, since the system was working before when I first generated the udev/autofs combination. CUPS died much later... The HP still eludes CUPS, though. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS (1.2) is screwed up totally--I have no printers
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 11:42:19PM +0200, Felix C. Stegerman wrote: * Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-11 13:16]: Just to pass this titillating piece of info along if the earlier posts aren't enough... I have submitted a bug report. The notes that I took for its contents follow. If anyone has some thought on what to try, I'd love to hear from you. I need my printers... :( ... Have you tried purging all CUPS packages and reconfiguring all printers? That worked for me. Yes and yes. No change. Includes reboots in between. What I don't know is whether there is another package outside of the regular cupsys ones which may be leaving traces of something about, messing up the purge. Basically, I hit all the cups\* listed as installed. It is also weird that CUPS identifies my usb printer (the Epson) with /dev/lp0, which is a parallel port. I'm wondering whether there is some problem with udev or the like. There is no /dev/usb directory, unlike the information below suggests. Is this because of the existence of the /udev/.static directory??? Again, my system sees the printers properly (via hwinfo): == - parallel info - /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport0/base-addr 888 1912 /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport0/autoprobe CLASS:PRINTER; MODEL:HP LaserJet 1200; MANUFACTURER:Hewlett-Packard; DESCRIPTION:Hewlett-Packard LaserJet 1200; COMMAND SET:PJL,MLC,PCL,PCLXL,POSTSCRIPT; - parallel info end - 40: Parallel 00.0: 10900 Printer [Created at parallel.154] Unique ID: ffnC.+mImpC1PXY5 Parent ID: YMnp.ecK7NLYWZ5D Hardware Class: printer Model: Hewlett-Packard HP LaserJet 1200 Vendor: Hewlett-Packard Device: HP LaserJet 1200 Device File: /dev/lp0 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #8 (Parallel controller) 64: USB 00.1: 10900 Printer [Created at usb.124] Unique ID: xnLL.wHjGvTVSII4 Parent ID: k4bc.UyPasJNOYrE SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:10.4/usb1/1-4/1-4:1.1 SysFS BusID: 1-4:1.1 Hardware Class: printer Model: Epson USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x04b8 Epson Device: usb 0x0803 USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed) Revision: 1.00 Serial ID: M16P20407291006080 Device File: /dev/usb/lp0 Device Number: char 180:0 Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: usb:v04B8p0803d0100dc00dsc00dp00ic07isc01ip02 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #62 (Hub) == -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS 1.2: /dev uris will not work (by design)
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 03:11:39PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:21:06PM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: Go figure. I need a functioning system. And you're therefore using unstable because...? Revert the CUPS install, then. Next time actually *manage* your box, if such things are important to you. Ah, I see. Working on the problem (which didn't show up in the bug reports I saw then) for a week, doesn't imply such? Reverting the install is a bit harder than you imply. The older package apparently is linked against older libs, against which a number of other apps are dependent. I use unstable because I need the currency of the libs and certain apps for my work. I have managed my box for a number of years at that level, thank you, much of that in the face of help like yours. Myself, I've not allowed it to install and don't plan to until I have time to (a) test it, and (b) easily back it out when it breaks. Debian's CUPS is always brittle at best and fundamentally b0rken at worst. Hmm. It's been rare that it has had any problems on my system, and never to this extent. Ciao, Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS (1.2) is screwed up totally--I have no printers
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:07:46AM +0200, Felix C. Stegerman wrote:
* Eike Lantzsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-12 00:08]:
On Sunday 11 June 2006 17:42, Felix C. Stegerman wrote:
* Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-11 13:16]:
Just to pass this titillating piece of info along if the earlier
posts aren't enough... I have submitted a bug report. The notes
that I took for its contents follow. If anyone has some thought on
what to try, I'd love to hear from you.
I need my printers... :(
...
Have you tried purging all CUPS packages and reconfiguring all
printers? That worked for me.
Oh well, KDE, acroread, scribus andwhatnot depend on cupsyslibs2.
dpkg-reconfigure cupsys should do the trick but it didn't for me.
The following worked for me:
$ dpkg -l | grep -E '^[a-z][a-z] ' | awk '{print $2}' | grep cups
cups-pdf
cupsys
cupsys-bsd
cupsys-client
cupsys-driver-gimpprint
cupsys-driver-gutenprint
libcupsimage2
libcupsys2
libgnomecups1.0-1
$ sudo aptitude purge cups-pdf cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client
cupsys-driver-gimpprint cupsys-driver-gutenprint
$ sudo dpkg --force-depends --purge libcupsys2
$ sudo aptitude install libcupsys2 cups-pdf cupsys cupsys-bsd
cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint cupsys-driver-gutenprint
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys
I then pointed firefox at http://localhost:631 and re-added my
printers. All is fine now.
I went the whole 9 yards, and purged all of them along with the
packages which depended on them. Reinstallation, etc. Same problems
as before (wrong ID, etc.). Installed printconf, which nicely found
the LaserJet, but it still doesn't print.
The only error I have found in the error log that seemed to be real was
the constant comment about not being able to find pscript5.dll. This
doesn't exist in any package.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I am installing cups-pdf as well.
Kenward
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Re: CUPS (1.2) is screwed up totally--I have no printers
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:16:56AM +0200, Felix C. Stegerman wrote: * Kenward Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-11 18:34]: On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 11:42:19PM +0200, Felix C. Stegerman wrote: ... Have you tried purging all CUPS packages and reconfiguring all printers? That worked for me. Yes and yes. No change. Includes reboots in between. What I don't know is whether there is another package outside of the regular cupsys ones which may be leaving traces of something about, messing up the purge. Basically, I hit all the cups\* listed as installed. It is also weird that CUPS identifies my usb printer (the Epson) with /dev/lp0, which is a parallel port. That is rather odd indeed. I'm wondering whether there is some problem with udev or the like. There is no /dev/usb directory, unlike the information below suggests. Is this because of the existence of the /udev/.static directory??? Again, my system sees the printers properly (via hwinfo) Something I just thought of: you could install cups-pdf and see whether you can print to PDF files. That way you'd be able to find out if CUPS works at all. This set up well and works. Thanks for the suggestion, Felix--I can at least boot into Winblows now to print files. (I had had this installed earlier, as I use it to print pdf's for my classes. Now, it's for internal use! ;-) So... ??? I'll update my bug report. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
