ls no display directory

1997-10-04 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all:-)

I inadvertently typed " cd\ " (without the quotes) while
at the root prompt. I got a what looked like a DOS prompt
" > " (again without the quotes) so I am assuming that
somehow I switched over to DOS mode somehow.  I haven't
even looked at running stuff from the DOS side yet as I
have been concentrating on learning linux syntax,
installing etc.

Anyways to make a long story short, now whenever I try to
do a directory listing of root with " ls " (yes indeed,
without the quotes) no directory names/files are
displayed.  If I switch to a subdirectory or do a "ls"
(yep, you guessed it!) with full directory path, then
ls seems to work just fine.it's only in the root
directory that names aren't displayed.

Any clues on this strange behaviour anyone?
Thanks.:-)

Opps, almost forgot!  How does one go about displaying
which directory they are in as part of the prompt?

eg:  etc/foo/bar#

rather than just having the "#" displayed (Need I
mention about the quotes? )



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Re: mono monitor with x (fwd)

1997-10-01 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Addressed to: Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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** Reply to note from Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 30 Sep 1997 
13:16:14 -0600 (MDT)
>
> I have an old Hercules card and monitor. (I do not know whether being old
> matters). In /etc/X11/XF86Config file I use
>
> HorizSync 18.43
> VertRefresh   50
>
> Mode: 720x350
>
> Modeline "720x350" 18.43  720  760  800 820  350  360  475  400
>
> Note: All numbers in Modeline I took from "sky" except 720 and 350 of
> course. Nevertheless, it works o.k.
>
> If the above is to the point I can send you full XF86Config file.

If you (or anyone else who knows about doing this) could send me the config
files, it would be very much appreciated.  I just starting to setup Debian
on an old system that uses a Herc monitor so being able to run XWindows on
it sounds really interesting.  Thanks for any info you can provide.:-)


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Re: dpkg and dselect

1997-09-27 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Addressed to: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Debian 

** Reply to note from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 26 Sep 1997
13:19:49 -0400 (EDT)
>
> On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence Lucier wrote:
>
> > The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.
>
> What steps did you take to get here? The installation should be nearly
> complete at this point. You made partitions, installed and configured the
> kernel and drivers, installed and configured the base system?

I can totally complete the floppy base installation except for the part
where the installation procedure is supposed to install LILO but refuses
to do so.

> So, what were the steps you followed to install LILO,

Just worked my way through the floppy based installation procedure

> and what error
> messages, if any, did you recieve?

sbin/dinstall:  /target/sbin/lilo  not found!

> > The boot disk refuses to
> > boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.
>
> The boot disk does not depend on LILO or the hard drive to boot up the
> kernel. You will need a "valid" root file system for the kernel to mount
> before the boot up can complete.
>
>   Changed
> > the reference in
> > SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:
> >
> > APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro
> >
> No root file system here ;-)

No that's true but if the floppy drive is given as root, the boot floppy
installation procedure will pause and ask you to insert a root floopy disk.
>From the docs, I gathered the impression that the root disk generated from
the root.bin file qualified as a valid root file system. Unfortunatly, a
kernal warning is generated when using this method and so I can't even boot
this way either.

 > > > from > >
> > APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro
> >
> If this is actually where you installed the base system, what are the
> other partitions like?

OS/2 Boot Manager, (primary)DOS, (extended)OS/2 HPFS, Linux and Linux swap.


>(BTW, LILO will not install on an extended
> partition AFAIK)

HI looked through the docs for this kind of limitation but
didn't see anything that pointed to this fact.  Will be checking this out
again though.

 > >  > When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image
floppy > generated by ROOT.BIN..still
> > the system won't boot.

> >
> This is a compressed image and is typically uncompressed on a RAM disk, so
> the arguments passed to the kernel are more complex than what you have
> used. When using loadlin for this task the command line looks like:
>
>   loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin
>
> If you use APPEND and have used rawrite2.exe to put the root.bin image
> onto a floppy, you probably want to change the initrd to =/dev/fd0.

Ahhh...OK, thanks for the tip! :-)

>
> > OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install
> with the LILO_19-2.deb
> > file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the
> information on dpkg and
> > dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy
> and went into the shell.
>
> So, you can boot the rescue floppy!

The rescue disk is part of the floppy based install, along with the driver
disk and the 4 1.44 base image disks. Booting with the rescue disk is no
problemit's the boot disk that won't proceed past a certain point.
It goes fine until just after the partition checkheres' the screen
output from there on:

Partition check:
hda: hda1  hda2 hda3
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.

After these lines are displayed, the boot will proceed no further.



> and look at and modify files on that > partition, but you don't have
access > to any tools not available at > installation time. This means you
can't run > dpkg/dselect from the rescue > disk. >

Ahhh..OK thanks for clearing that up. :-)

> Before we can do much more for you, we will need some details of the
> installation as well as the failures you experienced.

Basically it's just a matter of the installation procedure not installing  
LILO which then necessitates the utilization of the boot floppy (made by the
installation procedure) as an alternative means of booting the system.
Alas, even the boot floppy refuses to cooperate! 

Thanks for your reply and will ttyl...:-)




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Re: dpkg and dselect

1997-09-27 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Addressed to: Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Debian 

** Reply to note from Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 26 Sep 1997
13:19:49 -0400 (EDT)
>
> On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Lawrence Lucier wrote:
>
> > The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.
>
> What steps did you take to get here? The installation should be nearly
> complete at this point. You made partitions, installed and configured the
> kernel and drivers, installed and configured the base system?

I can totally complete the floppy base installation except for the part
where the installation procedure is supposed to install LILO but refuses
to do so.

> So, what were the steps you followed to install LILO,

Just worked my way through the floppy based installation procedure

> and what error
> messages, if any, did you recieve?

sbin/dinstall:  /target/sbin/lilo  not found!

> > The boot disk refuses to
> > boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.
>
> The boot disk does not depend on LILO or the hard drive to boot up the
> kernel. You will need a "valid" root file system for the kernel to mount
> before the boot up can complete.
>
>   Changed
> > the reference in
> > SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:
> >
> > APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro
> >
> No root file system here ;-)

No that's true but if the floppy drive is given as root, the boot floppy
installation procedure will pause and ask you to insert a root floopy disk.
>From the docs, I gathered the impression that the root disk generated from
the root.bin file qualified as a valid root file system. Unfortunatly, a
kernal warning is generated when using this method and so I can't even boot
this way either.

 > > > from > >
> > APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro
> >
> If this is actually where you installed the base system, what are the
> other partitions like?

OS/2 Boot Manager, (primary)DOS, (extended)OS/2 HPFS, Linux and Linux swap.


>(BTW, LILO will not install on an extended
> partition AFAIK)

HI looked through the docs for this kind of limitation but
didn't see anything that pointed to this fact.  Will be checking this out
again though.

 > >  > When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image
floppy > generated by ROOT.BIN..still
> > the system won't boot.

> >
> This is a compressed image and is typically uncompressed on a RAM disk, so
> the arguments passed to the kernel are more complex than what you have
> used. When using loadlin for this task the command line looks like:
>
>   loadlin linux root=/dev/ram initrd=root.bin
>
> If you use APPEND and have used rawrite2.exe to put the root.bin image
> onto a floppy, you probably want to change the initrd to =/dev/fd0.

Ahhh...OK, thanks for the tip! :-)

>
> > OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install
> with the LILO_19-2.deb
> > file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the
> information on dpkg and
> > dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy
> and went into the shell.
>
> So, you can boot the rescue floppy!

The rescue disk is part of the floppy based install, along with the driver
disk and the 4 1.44 base image disks. Booting with the rescue disk is no
problemit's the boot disk that won't proceed past a certain point.
It goes fine until just after the partition checkheres' the screen
output from there on:

Partition check:
hda: hda1  hda2 hda3
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.

After these lines are displayed, the boot will proceed no further.



> and look at and modify files on that > partition, but you don't have
access > to any tools not available at > installation time. This means you
can't run > dpkg/dselect from the rescue > disk. >

Ahhh..OK thanks for clearing that up. :-)

> Before we can do much more for you, we will need some details of the
> installation as well as the failures you experienced.

Basically it's just a matter of the installation procedure not installing  
LILO which then necessitates the utilization of the boot floppy (made by the
installation procedure) as an alternative means of booting the system.
Alas, even the boot floppy refuses to cooperate! 

Thanks for your reply and will ttyl...:-)



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dpkg and dselect

1997-09-26 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all:-)

First off, many thanks to the people who responded to my DOSKey and file format 
queries.  Lots
of great information sent my way and much appreciated at this end!  :-)

Quick recap of my problem here:

The Rescue/Base installation refuses to install LILO on my system.  The boot 
disk refuses to
boot up because, AFAIK, LILO isn't installed on the harddrive.  Changed the 
reference in
SYSLINUX.CFG on the floppy boot disk to:

APPEND root=/dev/fd0 ro

from

APPEND root=/dev/hda6 ro

When prompted for the root floppy I used the file image floppy generated by 
ROOT.BIN..still
the system won't boot.

OK, I thought did I, no problem, I will just do a LILO manual install with the 
LILO_19-2.deb
file I grabbed off the Debian site and tweak it from there.  Read the 
information on dpkg and
dselect in the debian and install docs.booted the Rescue floppy and 
went into the shell.
>From what I can see, neither dpkg or dselect is included (or can be run from 
>the shell) in the
base installation setup.  (ARRRH..did I mention yet that I'm 
having fun?
).


I seemed to have reached a Catch-22 stage here and am no longer sure how to 
proceed on
rectifying this problem...any words of wisdom for this confused but 
enthusiastic newbie
would be greatly appreciated.  :-)





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DOSKey equivalent

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all:-)

Just wondering if there is a proggie analogous to MSDOS's DOSKey (which saves 
typed in
keystrokes and then allows the user to recall them by using the arrow keys)?

Thanks...:-)

PS.I am having trouble getting past the installation floppy boot stage so 
even though a
program like this might be included in a future package install I haven't 
reached that stage
yet.


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Re: formatted floppy type??

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Addressed to: Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  debian-user@lists.debian.org

** Reply to note from Will Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thu, 25 Sep 1997 15:14:08 
-0400 (EDT)

> > reason I'm asking is because my boot floppy and install disks don't seem to 
> > respond to either
> > ext2 or dos when I try to mount them.
> > Or maybe because I'm a newbie at linux I am issuing the wrong command???  
> > :-)
>
> It's entirely possible -- you should be doing someting like
>
> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt


Howdy Will...thanks for the reply. :-)  Seems it's just the four 1.44 base 
install disks
that don't respond to either:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt

or

mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt

VFS gives an error message stating "Can't find  MSDOS/ext2 filesystem on 
dev 02:00".

BTW, would you happen to know what the 02:00 describes?

Thanks again...:-)



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formatted floppy type??

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Hi all.


Is there any way of determining which kind of filesystem a floppy has been 
formatted with?  The
reason I'm asking is because my boot floppy and install disks don't seem to 
respond to either
ext2 or dos when I try to mount them.

Or maybe because I'm a newbie at linux I am issuing the wrong command???  :-)



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newsgroup

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
** Reply to note from George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 24 Sep 1997 
19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
Howdy all.:-)

See from the docs (and various net searchs) there is a newsgroup called 
linux.debian.users
available but I haven't been able to track down a news server which carries it. 
 Anyone have an
address (preferably one that allows postings as well as reading)thanks! 
:-)




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lilo

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
** Reply to note from George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 24 Sep 1997 
19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
Howdy all.:-)


Using Rescue disk install program, I have set up Boot Manager, DOS, OS/2 HPFS, 
Linux ext2, and
linux swap partitions on my harddrive. Seems that the floppy install didn't 
(won't or can't find
relevent file(s)) install liloI grabbed lilo_19-2.deb off a debian ftp 
site.  Can I just
install this file or do I also need some other files?

Thanks:-)




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Re: [RANT] The Future of Debian (and Linux)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
** Reply to note from George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 24 Sep 1997 
19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
Howdy all.:-)


Using Rescue disk install program, I have set up Boot Manager, DOS, OS/2 HPFS, 
Linux ext2, and
linux swap partitions on my harddrive. Seems that the floppy install didn't 
(won't or can't find
relevent file(s)) install liloI grabbed lilo_19-2.deb off a debian ftp 
site.  Can I just
install this file or do I also need some other files?

Thanks:-)



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Re: [RANT] The Future of Debian (and Linux)

1997-09-25 Thread Lawrence Lucier
** Reply to note from George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 24 Sep 1997 
19:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
Howdy all.:-)

See from the docs (and various net searchs) there is a newsgroup called 
linux.debian.users
available but I haven't been able to track down a news server which carries it. 
 Anyone have an
address (preferably one that allows postings as well as reading)thanks! 
:-)



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Re: Newbie going crazy........part 2

1997-09-21 Thread Lawrence Lucier
** Reply to note from Lawrence Lucier <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun, 21 Sep 1997 
01:28:15 PST

   Howdy all...:-)

Still having problems with trying to install DebianI have included my 
original message
below but am also providing some new information on this:

The boot floppy will proceed loading various drivers until this one is 
displayed:

"VFS:  Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly."

Anyone have any idea what driver Debian loads next?

Also I have a old Herc amber monitor hooked up to this computercould 
this be a source of
potential problems (eg: not the right video driver being loaded?)  Can't see 
how it would be
considering everything has been texted based during the install but thought I 
might as well ask
anyways.

Can anyone suggest a URL for a good FAQ or primer which covers installing 
Debian...the one I
have is kinda scant on information regarding install problems.


<<< Original message starts >>>

   Picked up the following files:

9-18-97   2:24p   1474560  42  base14-1.bin
9-18-97   2:28p   1474560  42  base14-2.bin
9-18-97   2:27p   1474560  42  base14-3.bin
9-18-97   2:23p   1299456  42  base14-4.bin
9-18-97  12:05p   1474560  42  drv1440.bin
9-18-97  11:14a 50556   0  install.txt
9-18-97   1:08p 17863  42  rawrite2.exe
9-18-97  12:10p   1474560  42  resc1440.bin

   Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, 
base, and driver
   floppies using rawrite2.exe.  Didn't appear to be any problems involved with 
generating the
   floppies.

   Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the 
same problem(s)
each time:

   The following error message is generated when the installation program is 
setting up Debian
so that it can be booted from the harddrive:

sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found

   When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup 
program asks if
the user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens 
is a couple of
lines of text stating "Closing x files" etc.  The reboot does not take 
place..the
computer is just left hanging there displaying those lines of text.

   When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot 
appears to proceed
   correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text 
info is displayed as
   it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional 
as I can still
type but commands are not being processed.)

   Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly 
appreciated..thanks! :-)

<<< Original Message Ends >>>

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Re: Newbie going crazy........

1997-09-21 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Addressed to: Jose Oncina Carratala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  debian-user@lists.debian.org

** Reply to note from Jose Oncina Carratala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 20 Sep 
1997 13:25:01 +0200
>
> Lawrence Lucier wrote:
>
> > Howdy all...:-)
> >
> > Picked up the following files:
> >
> >  9-18-97   2:24p   1474560  42  base14-1.bin
> >  9-18-97   2:28p   1474560  42  base14-2.bin
> >  9-18-97   2:27p   1474560  42  base14-3.bin
> >  9-18-97   2:23p   1299456  42  base14-4.bin
> >  9-18-97  12:05p   1474560  42  drv1440.bin
> >  9-18-97  11:14a 50556   0  install.txt
> >  9-18-97   1:08p 17863  42  rawrite2.exe
> >  9-18-97  12:10p   1474560  42  resc1440.bin
> >
> > Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, 
> > base, and driver
> > floppies using rawrite2.exe.  Didn't appear to be any problems involved 
> > with generating the
> > floppies.
> >
> > Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the 
> > same problem(s) each
> > time:
> >
> > The following error message is generated when the installation program is 
> > setting up Debian so
> > that it can be booted from the harddrive:
> >
> >  sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found
> >
> > When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup 
> > program asks if the
> > user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens 
> > is a couple of lines
> > of text stating "Closing x files" etc.  The reboot does not take 
> > place..the computer is
> > just left hanging there displaying those lines of text.
> >
> > When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot 
> > appears to proceed
> > correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text 
> > info is displayed as
> > it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is 
> > functional as I can still type
> > but commands are not being processed.)
> >
> > Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly 
> > appreciated..thanks! :-)
>
> I had a similar problem, some times it said:
>
>   sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found
>
> other times it said:
>
>   open /boot/boot.b : No such file or directory
>
> and other times:
>
>   Error in archive format.
>
> I tried a lot of things but I soved the problem changing the hard disk.
> In order to be sure of that I used the "badblocks" command with the options 
> "-sw"
> over the partition where I was instaling the Linux and it found a lot of 
> badblocks.


Howdy.thanks for the comeback on this! :-)  My harddrives fine (touch 
wood!
).seems I can't even boot from the floppy that the rescue disk makes 
during the
install. :(  Oh well, will keep plugging away at it.I also tried 
installing FreeBDS's
install disk but it would also hang until I found out I had to disable 
npx0now if I could
only get the ruddy term program to work (seems a major point of contention with 
newbies).

Thanks again for your response and will ttyl.:-)


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Newbie going crazy........

1997-09-20 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all...:-)

Picked up the following files:

 9-18-97   2:24p   1474560  42  base14-1.bin
 9-18-97   2:28p   1474560  42  base14-2.bin
 9-18-97   2:27p   1474560  42  base14-3.bin
 9-18-97   2:23p   1299456  42  base14-4.bin
 9-18-97  12:05p   1474560  42  drv1440.bin
 9-18-97  11:14a 50556   0  install.txt
 9-18-97   1:08p 17863  42  rawrite2.exe
 9-18-97  12:10p   1474560  42  resc1440.bin

Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, 
base, and driver
floppies using rawrite2.exe.  Didn't appear to be any problems involved with 
generating the
floppies.

Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the 
same problem(s) each
time:

The following error message is generated when the installation program is 
setting up Debian so
that it can be booted from the harddrive:

sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found

When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup 
program asks if the
user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens is a 
couple of lines
of text stating "Closing x files" etc.  The reboot does not take 
place..the computer is
just left hanging there displaying those lines of text.

When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot appears 
to proceed
correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text info 
is displayed as
it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional as 
I can still type
but commands are not being processed.)

Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly 
appreciated..thanks! :-)




"It's A Magical World, Hobbes, Ol' Buddy... ...Let's Go Exploring !"


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Newbie going crazy........

1997-09-19 Thread Lawrence Lucier
Howdy all...:-)

Picked up the following files:

 9-18-97   2:24p   1474560  42  base14-1.bin
 9-18-97   2:28p   1474560  42  base14-2.bin
 9-18-97   2:27p   1474560  42  base14-3.bin
 9-18-97   2:23p   1299456  42  base14-4.bin
 9-18-97  12:05p   1474560  42  drv1440.bin
 9-18-97  11:14a 50556   0  install.txt
 9-18-97   1:08p 17863  42  rawrite2.exe
 9-18-97  12:10p   1474560  42  resc1440.bin

Followed the directions layed out in install.txt to make the boot, rescue, 
base, and driver
floppies using rawrite2.exe.  Didn't appear to be any problems involved with 
generating the
floppies.

Have run through the install proceedure three times now, ending up with the 
same problem(s) each
time:

The following error message is generated when the installation program is 
setting up Debian so
that it can be booted from the harddrive:

sbin/dinstall: /target/sbin/lilo:  not found

When exiting the installation program upon completing the setup, the setup 
program asks if the
user wants the system rebooted.when I answer yes, all that happens is a 
couple of lines
of text stating "Closing x files" etc.  The reboot does not take 
place..the computer is
just left hanging there displaying those lines of text.

When I try using the boot floppy disk (NOT the rescue disk), the boot appears 
to proceed
correctly but again I am left with a hung screen.the driver text info 
is displayed as
it's being loaded but then I can proceed no further. (Keyboard is functional as 
I can still type
but commands are not being processed.)

Any thoughts on why these things are occuring would be greatly 
appreciated..thanks! :-)



"It's A Magical World, Hobbes, Ol' Buddy... ...Let's Go Exploring !"


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