Re: XMMS bug
Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2001 20:46 schrieb Steven Kurylo: > Running debian woody 2.4.12 > > I use XMMS all the time and have never had a problem with it. Today I > decided to play around with plug-ins so I did a > "apt-get install `apt-cache search xmms plugin | cut -f1 --delimiter=\ > > |sed s#smpeg-xmms##`" to get all the plugin packages. I did the sed > > part since smpeg-xmms wouldn't install because libsdl1.2 wasn't availible. > > Once all the packages are installed and I try to run xmms I get a > segmentation fault. If I do remove with the command above to remove all > plug ins, then xmms runs fine. I don't have time right now to go > through each plug in to see which crashes xmms, but I was wondering if > anyone else has thing problem. > > Steven I had such a problem. Started XMMS and got a segfault. Ran DDD and watched what was happening. In my case i am using OSS and no ALSA. But XMMS had an ALSA library installed under /usr/lib/xmms/Output/ and tried to load it and so it crashed. I manually removed this library and from this moment on everything ran fine :) Hope this helps. Mac
Re: The shithead damn it thingy - please cool down people
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Chris Gray wrote: > Maybe you could give me some Message-IDs? > Sorry, already deleted them after reading. Fetched mails last day, searched them for kroeger, found the following subjects, read them (this threads were started by kroeger [2], at least the mails i had in my inbox stated that). If i missed something or misread something, i am sorry, don't want to make stupid noise and will stop it :-/ Subjects/Threads found (started by kroeger): xdm questions; resolution? Dexter 2.2 -> 2.2.2r no modules after kernel compile linux freezes during scanning [SOLVED] Re: GNU/Linux boot disk w/lilo OT: regular expression question On this thread he answered with unsubscribe (three times) but it was not his thread: Re: erase my adress on your list!!! > This wasn't simple and polite Well, ok. > it was his way of trying to unsubscribe. > It was not his thread. To me it appeared to be an answer. > Have you *read* all these posts? I did. Had nothing else to do at this moment :-) > He (or whoever) was just saying UNSUBSCRIBE a lot. Three times in the mail i'm referring to. > It looks to me like he accidentally go subscribed > and couldn't deal with it. But then why [2]? At least in my inbox i had those mails stating he started the threads with subjects above > I think you mean immature. Yes, right. > There are a lot of possibilities. True. On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > i am nearing a phd in theoretical physics myself, and i find your opinion > that a phd == "nice", "polite" or "mature" to be very naive. True. I was not clear enough on this point. > but PLEASE don't make the very misguided assumption that just because he > has 3 letters after his name, he has somehow magically attained beatific > status True. Did not want to assume that. On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 Maciej Kalisiak wrote: > It could also turn out that this is just a silly psychological experiment Maybe. Sorry for being so OT. I wont waste more bandwith. Mac
Re: scsi newbie
Marlon Urias wrote: > > (scsi0:0:-1:-1) Scanning channel for devices. > (scsi0:0:3:0) Refusing WIDE negotiation; using 8 bit transfers. > (scsi0:0:3:0) Refusing synchronous negotiation; using asynchronous > transfers. > Vendor: YAMAHAModel: CRW4260 Rev: 1.0h > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > (scsi0:0:6:0) Refusing WIDE negotiation; using 8 bit transfers. > (scsi0:0:6:0) Refusing synchronous negotiation; using asynchronous > transfers. > Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: J.02 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > I had the same behaviour when installing an Apple SCSI-CDROM on my machine. Go into the menu of the ADAPTEC BIOS and switch off the wide negotiation for the CD and ZIP SCSI adress (3 and 6). They simply won't negotiate wide. hope this helps, Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available |
Re: "Free" Interbase
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 1998 at 04:12:46PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > It gets worse: > > > > ``You may install and use the Software or the foregoing components provided > > that (1) the Software is used only with the Red Hat Linux 4.2 operating > > system,'' > > > > Version 4.2? Who would even uses that any more... > > ROTFL. This is too silly to take it serious. Whahahahuhhu (hysterically > laughing, then whining and crying). > Just read that Informix released their DB-Engine Informix-SE 7.24, ESQL for C 7.24 and Informix Connect for Linux. Caldera and Suse were mentioned and RedHat was mentioned to follow soon. But there's no 'must' distribution pointed out. The developer version should be here: (should be free and working) http://www.informix.com/informix/products/freelx.html Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Sun Sparc-Station 5 and Debian
Hi list! First i have to say sorry for the long posting ;) I'm receiving a used Sparc5 this weekend. So i have a few questions (of which some may be a little offtopic): 2GB SCSI-HD, 32MB-RAM, 2D Gfx card (fast for wireframe, i think), FDD and CD_ROM. I have a bunch of official CD's (including Solaris - or is it really Slowlaris :) - already on this machine. The machine is booting fine, but... The Gfx card seems to be a problem. We tried many different monitors (all of them should've been able to produce a normal screen) - but none of them found any signal to display. Last we tried a monitor with fixed frequency and finally got some output on the screen. The output was scattered as if the Sparc and the monitor were not in sync or generally use and expect different frequencies. Hitting Alt-F(1-8) did change the display a bit and after a few more hits the screen went black and stayed black until reboot. I would like to use the Sparc as a Terminal (and more). But for this i need to 'fix' the problem with the card. If the card is really damaged and gone completely i would like to use the Sparc as a server in the background (maybe for serving X), backup and stuff like that. The first thing for me is to install Debian :) (stable enough?) The second thing may be to install Solaris (pro's, con's, suggestions?) 32MB RAM is not much. I would like to install a minimal System on the Sun and hope that memory will be enough to run without much swapping. Is it illusionary to assume that the Debian base, a bit net, min. X server, and one or two additional daemons, packages will run without much swapping? And then there's the Gfx card. What to do? How to check? Any suggestions? I think i mentioned everything - if not, please ask... Hopefully someone can help in this context, i need this additional piece of hardware for serving :) thanks in advance, Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Ultra2
Lawrence wrote: > > Markus Lechner wrote: > > > > Hi Lawrence, > > > > I read on the kernel-list that the new boards run all except U2W - but > > they > > are working on it and it may soon be done. You can use the other > > SCSI-Parts up to UW-SCSI without any problems. You simply can't use the > > U2W-Part of your controller until they (the kernel and driver > > developers) > > get it done. I'm buying a new MB with U2W in a week, for example :) > > So, you meant that the aic driver can use all connectors on the card > except the internal and external ultra2 68 pin connectors? I am > surprised that the old driver *partially* support the new 2940u2w. > > Lawrence > As i wrote this, i meant the U2W protocol and driver related stuff, not the physical parts. But to be honest, i did only know that U2W AIC (sometimes related with SMP-Kernel) makes problems. I didn't know if this meant the drivers or the connectors. There is now cooperation between driver developers and Adaptec and it might give us a complete new driver in the future (i saw a few notes about that). Lets see :) Mac P.S.: partial support... why not :) SCSI is modular and hierarchic > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Ultra2
Christopher Barry wrote: > > A lot of U2W disk drives can be jumpered to run in UW single ended mode, so > that they > can be run on a 2940UW or a 2940U2W without the U2W connecter working yet. I > should note > though that the cable that comes with U2W controllers (part # ACK-68I-U2W) > uses a > differential terminator and cannot be used to connect U2W drives to a 2940UW > or to the > UW connector on a 2940U2W and this is important because U2W drives being truly > differential, like SCA drives, come with no means to provide termination, > which must be > provided by the cable. Didn't know a few facts. Thanks for the insight :) > I've just had some email with Adaptec and Seagate about this > because I might buy a second generation Seagate Cheetah which is a lot faster > than the > first generation Cheetah but is only available with U2W or better interfaces, > and I see > no need to spend over $300 for a new motherboard or 2940U2W card when I'm > very happy > with my 2940UW. So I'm ordering the U2W Cheetah and Adaptec's actively > terminated UW > ribbon cable (ACK-W2W-5IT) and I'm set. > > I only bothered to write this because if you already have a U2W controller > you can run > U2W drives under Linux right now and you don't need to wait if you already > possess or > purchase an actively terminated UW cable and if you are interested in running > a U2W > drive without U2W SCSI you'll probably be able to so also without spending > extra cash > for an interface that provides 3-4 times more bandwidth you'll ever need > unless you have > a RAID. In my case: I need the new boards for memory intensive apps. This involves (in my case) a SMP-RAID machine. So i'm glad to read that the U2W is working :) It's planned to set such a box up (the RAID part) in 3-4 weeks. (got a little offtopic) ok, Mac > > Markus Lechner wrote: > > > Hi Lawrence, > > > > I read on the kernel-list that the new boards run all except U2W - but > > they > > are working on it and it may soon be done. You can use the other > > SCSI-Parts up to UW-SCSI without any problems. You simply can't use the > > U2W-Part of your controller until they (the kernel and driver > > developers) > > get it done. I'm buying a new MB with U2W in a week, for example :) > > > > ok, > > > > Mac > > > > Lawrence wrote: > > > > > > Does the current adaptec driver support Adaptec 2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide) > > > scsi card? > > > > > > Lawrence > > > > > > -- > > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > -- > > Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The > > Prometheus-Project > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]| > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for > > Project-Team) > > PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Ultra2
Hi Lawrence, I read on the kernel-list that the new boards run all except U2W - but they are working on it and it may soon be done. You can use the other SCSI-Parts up to UW-SCSI without any problems. You simply can't use the U2W-Part of your controller until they (the kernel and driver developers) get it done. I'm buying a new MB with U2W in a week, for example :) ok, Mac Lawrence wrote: > > Does the current adaptec driver support Adaptec 2940U2W (Ultra2 Wide) > scsi card? > > Lawrence > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Specifying Ultra-SCSI? Re: RAM SIZE large than 64MB
Hi Christopher and Oliver, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > Christopher Barry wrote: > >> In /etc/lilo.conf, > >> ... > >> # Linux - 2.0.33 > >> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 > >> label=linux2033 > >> append="mem=96m aic7xxx=ultra" > >> > I don't have aic7xxx=ultra set at boot-time. Looks like there's no need for this. > This is what I get in /proc/scsi/aic7xxx/0; do you think I can do better?: > > Adaptec AIC7xxx driver version: 4.1/3.2 > Compile Options: > AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY: 15 > AIC7XXX_TAGGED_QUEUEING: Disabled > AIC7XXX_PAGE_ENABLE: Disabled > AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS : Enabled > Adaptec AIC7xxx driver version: 4.1.1/3.2.1 Compile Options: AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY: 5 AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_LUN : 64 AIC7XXX_TAGGED_QUEUEING: Enabled AIC7XXX_PAGE_ENABLE: Enabled AIC7XXX_PROC_STATS : Enabled Those are my settings. 1. RESET_DELAY: A minimum delay of 5 secs is ok if you have only HD's and CD's connected to your SCSI. Other devices may need a longer time to get initialised, negotiated, etc. This makes booting faster. 2. CMDS_PER_LUN: This depends on your HD's as well. 64 is a 'high' value - only use it for real fast HD's - slower ones may burn out because of too much load. But - the kernel lowers the rate of CMDS_PER_LUN after a few minutes uptime (if you set it too high for at least one of your drives). So the risk is not that high - only for old HD's :) Values up to 32 are 'high', but should be ok. This is (obviously :)) boosting the overall performance. When compiling the kernel, you can read the help when issuing make config/menuconfig). There is everything stated. happy hacking, Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: bo: Problem with Xlib
The paths... > -L/usr/X11R6/lib Thanks Nils -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bo: Problem with Xlib
Hello everybody, another great question of mine... or two... but i didn't find any solution. Yesterday i tried the first time to use some Xlib functions. I included . The problem is that the compiler tells me things like undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay' undefined reference to `XDefaultVisual' (but DefaultVisual seems to work...) Is there a header which i forgot to inlcude? Or do i have to link with -lX11 ? I tried to link, but got only an error ld: cannot open -lX11: No such file or directory Looks like wrong paths (i tried others)... Sure, the answer is written somewhere in the books. But i didn't find it until now and so i'm asking. What do i do wrong? Maybe someone can remove the blindfold from my eyes :) Greetings, Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windoze 95 is not multi-tasking, it just pretends it is multitasking.
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > The "true multitasking" discussion is a dangerous one. Why? Dont know... Do you mean 'fanatics'..? > Years ago Amiga users Yes, i was an Amiga user... :) And yes, most of them (me too) tried to tell others the big differences in this system... this was years ago - and at this time there was a *big* difference between Amiga and *all* the other systems. Ok, except big Un*x Systems. At least, the Amiga had a Un*x-like core and structure. > managed to convince everyone who didn't know better that the Amiga > was the only machine which had "true multitasking." If they told you that was true multitasking - they weren't precise. > As I see it, to > be absolutely purist about it, you can only multitask with multiple > CPUs. The Amiga had *more* than one CPU. Only one CPU was the *real* processor, but there was one *CPU* for the graphics, one for the sound, another one for graphics/timing and another one for data-transfer and manipulation. And between them there was real multitasking. If one owns a pc with a bunch of cards in the slots, then he has those more CPU's, too. But the question is: are those other CPU's integrated in a low layer or not. If not, the multitasking is a big joke. It's not very atomic. If yes, best ;) > Anything else is done with very rapid context/task switching. > Which is just what the Amiga did then and just what Linux does now. Yes, but... > And just what Windows does too. Regarding point #1, so Windows prioritizes > your foreground app for whatever reason -- so what? Linux has priority > scheduling too if you want to make one app run faster than another, > or chew less CPU etc. This isn't an inherently bad feature, although > it'd be nice to be able to customize priorities. ... it's the granulatity that counts. Linux seems to be very *atomic*. Amiga was more atomic. BTW it's not only nice but important to be able to change priorities of running processes. > Another problem with Windows is that Win16 has non-pre-emptive multitasking. > This means that although it still does rapid task switching, it only > task switches when each program says it has finished for that particular > time slice. Same as all the old Apple-OS's... > Win32 is pre-emptive (as are Linux etc), which means that the > kernel just up and does it. Win95 still has to non-pre-emptively multitask > 16 bit apps, but they are all run together as one 32 bit process I believe. You said it... as one 32 bit process. And the granularity is bad, too. There are differences between pre-emptive multitasking and pre-emptive multitasking. I would not say that win95 has *real* real multitasking :) > > Re: #2 -- Windows is not multiuser in the Unix sense. Citrix make a nice > WinNT 3.51 variant called WinCenter which is multiuser. Yep. > Actually, on any modern video the mouse cursor is done in hardware > as I understand it -- Windows couldn't stop that just because it crashed > unless it went trashing registers too. Yep :) Mac -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help with da requirements
This is what i did - setting up my PII as a PPro. Never had any problems. But some Kernel-Makefiles showed a Pentium (only) config *after* i tried to configure as PPro. I manually reset this to PPro - no problems. My machine is running continously with two to three Users logged in localy. BTW compiling programms for 486 works, no need for 386. ;) Mac George Bonser wrote: > > Last I heard, P-II sould be set up as PPro but I will double check it. > > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Marco Anglesio wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hey, > > > No, in the installation readme file it says that Linux works on > > > Pentium, > > > Pentuim Pro, now, what about Pentium II? > > > > PII is 386-compatible (IOW, it will run code compiled for a/on an i386); > > ergo, PII will work. > > > > m. > > > > -- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is like a bad margarita with good tequila, > > http://squawk.klue.on.ca I thought, as I poured whiskey onto my granola > > Running Debian Linux 2.0 and faced a new day. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > George Bonser > Just be thankful that Open Group does not own Linux. > http://www.debian.org > Debian/GNU Linux ... the maintainable operating system. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Markus Lechner (Company - LightWolf) | The Prometheus-Project [EMAIL PROTECTED]| [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Markus.Lechner| (only for Project-Team) PGP-Public-Key(s) are available | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sdram and linux
tony mollica wrote: > Hi. Just looking for a little more info. > > Just installed 64megs 168 pin sdram (replacing the 64megs of the usual > type 72 pin edo stuff) in my system and it appears > to be causing file system corruption, as indicated on boot > up by fsck (attempted boot up, actually). Booting from the rescue > disk and running fsck reports lots of problems, fixes them all, but the > problems reappear at the next reboot from the hard disk drive. Also ran > into a problem with programs exiting unexpectedly and core dumping for > no apparent reason. > > Tried my Debian kernels 2.0.30 and 2.0.33 with the same > result and put the original memory back, which seems to > have fixed the problem with either kernel version. > > Has there been any similar reports or other problems using > 168 pin sdram type memory or are there any hardware or kernel > settings that I may have overlooked to make this work? The > memory works ok on 'other' o.s.'s and machines. > > thanks, > -- > tony mollica > [EMAIL PROTECTED] It may be possible that you SDRAM is damaged. You usually won't notice this on other OS's, because there is a big difference in the RAM-usage. Linux really 'uses' the memory more than on those other 'OS's'. In fact the usage is heavy compared to other OS's. But as Manoj stated - backup your HD - just in case... ;-) Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HD-SelfTest
Hi again, my root HD (it's an IBM SCSI) is capable of executing a SelfTest after 72 hours uptime. During this time the HD is 'locked' for approx. 30 secs and can't be accessed in this period. It can't be switched off (at least this is stated in the description). But i think this 'feature' was included for workstations and systems running continously - so Un*x and Linux should be able to handle this in a defined way. Is there a supported or Linux-spezific way to let the system know about this? If not, any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X-Intrinsics
Thanks, this help's me much to hook on the X-Win thing... It's sometimes not easy to find the main-entrance... ;-) Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Intrinsics
Hi all, just a small question as i'm searching for the 'lowest-level' to use to programm under X-Win. Somebody told me that X-Intrinsics is this lowest-level, where other GUI's and lib's like OSF/MOTIF setup on. So, what's X-Intrinsics? Is it this lowest-level? Where are doc's for this? Thanks in advance, Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi guys - a short ADAPTEC-Note
Gary Kline wrote: > Done. Three or 4 brief paragraphs. :-] > If *every* freeNix user > would send mail to hardware vendors who don't support BSD or > Linux (on the PC or wherever), I'll bet they would all hop on > it. We are the people - and Linux is a big community, this is obvious. I emailed CreativeLabs, too.What else had bad or no support until now? What other companies would be 'vital' for Linux? Just wondering... > Thanks for the address. > > gary Thanks, too Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi guys - a short ADAPTEC-Note
Gary Kline wrote: > I've run Adaptec on an old SVR4 PeeCee; more recently om > FreeBSD and Debian. So far, no problem. > > Since moderate kudos are more likely than flames to get > results, I'm willing to send Adaptec a note. What's > their email addr for this?? > > gary That's the right spirit. I understand the others as well, but there may be many users stuck on a machine with their cards (or maybe onboard - as mine) :-) but i haven't had any problems, it rockstable and it's ultra-fast - real high-end. (I'm no promoter :-) only my personal view - and i want this company to change their views for the sake of those sitting on one of their cards - as long as it looks like there's a chance to do that) But i told them anyway that i'm almost willing to give my box away for another one - without ADAPTEC. So maybe they do really think (ill, but possible) that Linux is small... but it looks that their views are not as stable. So, the email-adress is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please email to them. It can only help. Thanks, Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi guys - a short ADAPTEC-Note
Maybe this is too early, but there was a lot of discussion on the SCSI thing, so i thought this may be of interest: (sorry, i didn't give anything to those discussions - but i'll have more time in a few month...) Here's a short snippet from ADAPTEC's reply to my email: --- Thank you for your feedback concerning the Linux operating system. Adaptec always strives to provide the best product, best value, and best customer support in the industry. We are currently in the process of evaluating our position with the Linux operating system, and have forwarded your correspondence through the appropriate channels. We hope to have a resolution soon, and appreciate your patience regarding this matter. The Linux community is well respected by Adaptec, and we apologize for any feelings of hostility that may have resulted from our current policies regarding Linux. We hope to have more information concerning this matter in the very near future. Again, thank you for your patience, and for writing to Adaptec support! So, this sound's nice - email them, too (if using one of there card's) - it looks like it helps them in making the right decision faster :-) Mac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How did you got these lines ?
Bob Hilliard wrote: > Ralph Winslow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try the following: > > > > su - root > > > > dmesg | pg > > > > > > I can't locate 'pg' on my machine (hamm, up to date through last > week). What is it and what package does it come from? Looks like a simple more or most - only to give you the chance to view dmesg pagewise. Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tcl/Tk source ?
Yep, that's it :-) Many thanks. Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Tcl/Tk source ?
Rich Puhek wrote: > If you go to /var/lib/dpkg, you will find a file called status. This > appears to be how dselect keeps track of what's installed/configured/etc. > The format is pretty self explanitory, so you should be able to hack the > status line of the package in question, "fooling" dselect into thinking it > installed the package. Yes, i'll try this. When i get this working (with a few selfmade scripts) then debian is real good to maintain without debianizing every package that i installed on my machine. Thanks :-) Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dpkg 'mimic' install/remove?
Hi all, is there a way to tell dpkg to 'mimic' an install/remove of a given package. For example, i removed a package by hand and want to tell dpkg that this package can be 'removed'. Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Tcl/Tk source ?
Thanks, this information helps a lot. > Note that if you build the source yourself, dpkg won't > know that you've installed tcl and will give you lots of dependency > errors. This is poor. > I wondered if there is a way to 'mimic' install/remove with dpkg? Thanks, Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Tcl/Tk source ?
Hi all, i'm expieriencing a problem when compiling different packages which use Tcl/Tk. The problem is that make ends up with an error complaining about a missing tcl.h and tk.h. The paths are set accordingly. Do i use the wrong versions (Tcl7.6, Tk4.2, and all the runtime-libs)? So i thought, it would be a good idea to get the source from a debian-server - but found none. Is there a .deb source-package for Tcl/Tk? Do i need the source to compile other packages? Is the non-debian source usable? Maybe someone knows... ;-) Mac -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition
Ok, here we are Read the entire text at http://www.stiller.com/Win95D.htm SR News: Risk of data loss for large disks under Win95 WebCrawler: Some users found cross-linked clusters and used Scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor or other utilities to "fix" there disks. e., "FDISK /X" )when you partition your hard disk under Windows 95 (or DOS 7), FDISK will user the older style extended partitions and you (according to Microsoft) will not be exposed to this problem. Excite: Some users found cross-linked clusters and used Scandisk, Norton Disk Doctor or other utilities to "fix" there disks. e., "FDISK /X" )when you partition your hard disk under Windows 95 (or DOS 7), FDISK will user the older style extended partitions and you (according to Microsoft) will not be exposed to this problem. http://www.stiller.com/Win95D.htm Mac P.S.: I love Microsoft, hehe (joke) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SoundBlaster AWE64
Thanks for your help, Marcus. Of course i red all the related docu before and i set the permissions according to my needs. The problem was solved with sfxload -I . I didn't know that i have to do this every time (because of unloaded modules?) before i start TkAweMidi (which is actually drvmidi's X-Interface, right?). After using sfxload the error vanquished... I was in err to not use sfxload, because i thought that there is already some default-soundfont loaded. Thanks, Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo, hamm, stable, unstable
Jens Ritter wrote: > You don´t have to. I always run my production system as bo (but ok, I > have got an unstable system, too. That´s because I want to take part > in the development.) The advantages/disadvantages of a hamm system are: > > 1) glibc6 > 2) New source format for packages > 3) A lot of more packages. > 4) Sometimes new uploads of packages can be broken. > > Unless you plan to develop libc6 or want to have some of the new > packages, there´s no need to upgrade. > I want to develop, but not take part in the Linux development (maybe later, when i got into Linux deep enough to actually understand what to do). So it's better for me to use the stable kernel and packages, i think. Correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks for the information, Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X-Windows questions
Ok, Why i want to run many X-Sessions? It's just an old habbit - i loved the Amiga for it's WorkBench and Command-Line Interface. So i want to configure Linux in the same way. Actually i'll need a little more RAM for this. Bingo. The watchdog reboots my system. But what kind of multitasking is this, when a process is able to 'slow down' other processes in a way that the watchdog isn't able to do what he has to and other things like redraw the display works. Strange priority settings, i think... :-) Many thanks for all your help, Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is debian "more of a learning curve" than Redhat???
Craig Sanders wrote: > > libc5/libc6 > > what's the problem with libc5 and libc6? they both work in debian. no problem, only a question mark for a newbie at installation > the usual cycle with dselect is: > > 1. Update > 2. Select > 3. Install > 4. Configure > 5. repeat steps 3 & 4 until there are no problems reported Here i got stuck on my first attempts to install a running system (ok, but only after selecting tons of packages and having no idea, what i'm actually doing) > no, not with the standard "mounted" method. they should be logged. but > they aren't. > > there is another install method called "mountable" which logs everything > to /var/log/dpkg-mountable. good, this is what i wanted > some packages also have easy to use configure scripts. sendmail, apache, > and bind are the most obvious examples. there has been a lot of hard > work put into the config scripts for those packages... and it shows, > they really are excellent. Yes, they are very good. > > At least the package-descriptions should contain some info about all > > the installed files (their names and their destination-paths). Ok, but to be more precise. The path/file descriptions should be integrated in the dselect-screen and in the logfile. Almost like in other installers (copy file x.y to /destination/path/x.y - successfull, and so on). With those points changed, dselect would be the perfect tool for big installations (in my opinion). dpkg is already best. Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partition
Fabian Knittel wrote: > >Never partition your harddisk using the 32Bit-Support from fdisk > >(Win95B). It's > >buggy. > > What is buggy, the support from Linux for this "feature" or the "feature" > itsself ? The feature itself is buggy... Don't use it! > Where could I get more Information on this? I never heard of a BUG in the > 32Bit-Support! I just partitioned my 1.6 GB -Disk with this "special > feature". I actually don't want to loose my data.. :-( After searching for a good virus-scanner for WinDOS i found this info on a commercial homepage. The scanner found those errors of fdisk and users were advised to not let the software repair the found errors. Instead the only advice and final solution was to partition the 'defect' harddisk without this fdisk feature - immediately. It was one page consisting only tips about this special problem. The site was serious and they remarked this with a Microsoft statement ('don't use it'). Unfortunately i don't have this adress, it was among the data i lost :-( But i'll check it again - so maybe i can post the adress in a few days... (if wanted - not Debian related). Otherwise i'll send eMail to you directly... Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Virtual Desktop Size
Catalin Popescu wrote: > How can I setup the Desktop Size under X to be not greater than the > physical size of my monitor? > Run the script xf86config - it should be what you want to start. Otherwise edit the resulting file directly, it's location is /etc/X11/XF86Config. At the end of this file should be the section for the X-Server settings. There should be entries somehow like this: Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "ATI Video Xpression" Monitor "miroC1782" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "640x400" "400x300" "320x240" "320x200" "1280x1024" ViewPort0 0 Virtual 1600 1200 EndSubsection Set Virtual to what you need it to be... Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Sorry for the html-mails
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Much better! > > thanks, > > Hamish I want to say sorry to everybody- won't happen again (grin)... Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X-Windows questions
Here are many Questions about X-Windows: I read somewhere that an Window-Manager in the style of the Amiga-OS is available somewhere. Does somebody use this one, know whether the Package is stable and know where to find it (if stable and maintained)? What other Window-Managers are available? Which of them are not beta? Which of them are how stable? Whats the thing with those color-tables (Afterstep needs a lower resolution than fvwm with the same amount of colors, right)? X sometimes closes (whithout any coredump nor any error) when switching from another terminal to the X-Display (this happens with other distributions as well - but my SDRAM seems to be ok). And when i open many pictures under X-Windows, it sometimes happens (during excessive swaping) that the computer does a hard-reset. Ctrl-Alt-Fx is neccessary to switch back from X to another terminal and Alt-Fx can only be used when switching between text-terminals. Why? When using kdm instead of xdm i can't login. After login, the kdm login-screen shows up again and again. (I started kdm in the file /etc/X11/config instead of xdm) After compiling the kernel (v2.0.29 or v2.0.30) i had to accept that X won't start up (only black screen, sometimes a beep and no signal - my monitor switches off after a few seconds). Since i use the Kernelv2.0.32 this problem vanquished. I'd like to run X-Windows on almost every Terminal (except the first one) on my Computer. How to configure the system (or what do i need to know for that case) to bring up a xdm/kdm login on every terminal except the first? How to configure the system to use APM-Energy saving cappabilities? (APM work's, when leaving a normal Text-Terminal unused, but not in X) It would be great to hear some answers, because my time is limited and i'm already a bit groggy of all the documentation. Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Partition
Never partition your harddisk using the 32Bit-Support from fdisk (Win95B). It's buggy. Maybe most of you know this, but in an eMail in this list about partitioning i read the same error-message i got after using a harddisk partitioned with this 'feature' of fdisk. I had to repartition and use the backup of this disk. Total loss of data... Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Turning NumLock on
A short question: NumLock How to turn it on at boot-time? How to turn it on in X? I heard that using NumLock on Linux-Systems causes trouble. Is this true? Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo, hamm, stable, unstable
Maybe this question is really stupid, but anyway: bo, hamm, stable, unstable, etc. What's this? Hamm means unstable or untested - concerning to the kernel or only to the software packages? I feel a bit outdated when running bo and it looks like the amount of problems is mostly the same - no matter whether running the stable or the unstable distribution. nitpic (for example) won't run on my system (but it should be stable, or not?). How can kde-beta2.2 (i got the Lehmanns CD) reside in stable? I do not understand what is actually stable and what's not - and how this relates to the kernel-version. Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Development under Linux and X-Windows
Another stupid question: I want to develop a few medium-sized Programms running under X-Windows. Oberon doesn't look stable on my system, C and C++ isn't my favour language (i do only know as much as it was neccessary to know about while programming Assembler on an Amiga), but it seems that i have to use them. So, what else do i need, should i read. Are there some important packages out there (not included in the distribution)? What packages included in the distribution should i use/never use? libc5/libc6 - in what way does this interfere with the selection of the right kernel-version, distribution, devel-packages and future possibilities/problems? A few programms, i need to develop will be of commercial nature (including a non-commercial version - commercial only, if used by a commercial group). After all i don't want to use free software-components for them, because i don't want to use software which i shouldn't use in this case - on the other hand i need to buy as less software-licenses as possible - i don't have the money for this. What should i keep in mind in respect to this situation? And, what Window-Manager should i use? Should i post those question to the developer mailing-list? Anyway, i think other newbies or half-newbies like to know what's the (not the only) probably best way or best base to start programming in Linux. Very important, this... Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SoundBlaster AWE64
Another question: I'm quite sure that the isapnp-config for my SoundBlaster AWE64 is ok. I know, that only AWE32 is supported through Linux. After make config in the awedrv directory and the make menuconfig (and all those other needed makes) in the linux-source directory (2.0.32 for now) i recompiled the kernel and have now a working /dev/audio and a working /dev/dsp, but when trying to use /dev/sequencer i get an error '/dev/sequencer: Permission denied' and there fuser says nothing about /dev/sequencer. Do i have to do further compiling? Do i need another Kernel-Source? Please help Mac Sorry for the html, i dont' want to cause any overheat - so i hope it's better to remail this message again. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Sorry for the html-mails
I hope this is normal text... :-/) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Partition
Never partition your harddisk using the 32Bit-Support from fdisk (Win95B). It's buggy. Maybe most of you know this, but in an eMail in this list about partitioning i read the same error-message i got after using a harddisk partitioned with this 'feature' of fdisk. I had to repartition and use the backup of this disk. Total loss of data... Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Development under Linux and X-Windows
Another stupid question: I want to develop a few medium-sized Programms running under X-Windows. Oberon doesn't look stable on my system, C and C++ isn't my favour language (i do only know as much as it was neccessary to know about while programming Assembler on an Amiga), but it seems that i have to use them. So, what else do i need, should i read. Are there some important packages out there (not included in the distribution)? What packages included in the distribution should i use/never use? libc5/libc6 - in what way does this interfere with the selection of the right kernel-version, distribution, devel-packages and future possibilities/problems? A few programms, i need to develop will be of commercial nature (including a non-commercial version - commercial only, if used by a commercial group). After all i don't want to use free software-components for them, because i don't want to use software which i shouldn't use in this case - on the other hand i need to buy as less software-licenses as possible - i don't have the money for this. What should i keep in mind in respect to this situation? And, what Window-Manager should i use? Should i post those question to the developer mailing-list? Anyway, i think other newbies or half-newbies like to know what's the (not the only) probably best way or best base to start programming in Linux. Very important, this... Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SoundBlaster AWE64
Another question: I'm quite sure that the isapnp-config for my SoundBlaster AWE64 is ok. I know, that only AWE32 is supported through Linux. After make config in the awedrv directory and the make menuconfig in the linux-source directory (2.0.32 for now) i recompiled the kernel and have now a working /dev/audio and a working /dev/dsp, but when trying to use /dev/sequencer i get an error '/dev/sequencer: Permission denied' and there fuser says nothing about /dev/sequencer. Do i have to do further compiling? Do i need another Kernel-Source? Please help Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Login-Warning
I want the system to tell me when (and how many times) somebody tried to login without proper password. Is this possible in a simple way? How? Or do i need some Package? Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X-Windows questions
Here are many Questions about X-Windows: I read somewhere that an Window-Manager in the style of the Amiga-OS is available somewhere. Does somebody use this one, know whether the Package is stable and know where to find it (if stable and maintained)? What other Window-Managers are available? Which of them are not beta? Which of them are how stable? Whats the thing with those color-tables (Afterstep needs a lower resolution than fvwm with the same amount of colors, right)? X sometimes closes (whithout any coredump nor any error) when switching from another terminal to the X-Display (this happens with other distributions as well - but my SDRAM seems to be ok). And when i open many pictures under X-Windows, it sometimes happens (during excessive swaping) that the computer does a hard-reset. Ctrl-Alt-Fx is neccessary to switch back from X to another terminal and Alt-Fx can only be used when switching between text-terminals. Why? When using kdm instead of xdm i can't login. After login, the kdm login-screen shows up again and again. (I started kdm in the file /etc/X11/config instead of xdm) After compiling the kernel (v2.0.29 or v2.0.30) i had to accept that X won't start up (only black screen, sometimes a beep and no signal - my monitor switches off after a few seconds). Since i use the Kernelv2.0.32 this problem vanquished. I'd like to run X-Windows on almost every Terminal (except the first one) on my Computer. How to configure the system (or what do i need to know for that case) to bring up a xdm/kdm login on every terminal except the first? How to configure the system to use APM-Energy saving cappabilities? (APM work's, when leaving a normal Text-Terminal unused, but not in X) It would be great to hear some answers, because my time is limited and i'm already a bit groggy of all the documentation. Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Turning NumLock on
A short question: NumLock How to automatically turn it on at boot-time? How to automatically turn it on in X? I heard that using NumLock on Linux-Systems causes trouble. Is this true? Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bo, hamm, stable, unstable
Maybe this question is really stupid, but anyway: bo, hamm, stable, unstable, etc. What's this? Hamm means unstable or untested - concerning to the kernel or only to the software packages? I feel a bit outdated when running bo and it looks like the amount of problems is mostly the same - no matter whether running the stable or the unstable distribution. nitpic (for example) won't run on my system (but it should be stable, or not?). How can kde-beta2.2 (i got the Lehmanns CD) reside in stable? I do not understand what is actually stable and what's not - and how this relates to the kernel-version. Mac -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Why is debian "more of a learning curve" than Redhat???
Hi everybody, most of the things were already pointed out. So if i repeat something - sorry. But i've not that much time to write. This is the 4th week after my first installation attempts. After trying many Computersystems and OS's i have to say that none of them is what it should be - user friendly. But Linux and Debian in special isn't really that bad - in fact it's very good. But it's really too much in one sigh. The negative points are (if they are negative at all): Tons of Packages (that's good); Too many Documents and especially too many outdated Documents (no Debian Problem - moreover a Linux thing); Tons of Bug-Reports to process when having a Problem (good); Tons of eMail in the Mailing-Lists (very good); libc5/libc6 The installation-routine doesn't determine which of the selected packages must be installed first. When package y needs package x to be installed but the simple alphabetic order of dselect want's to install package x first and second is package y - two runs are neccessary. If this happens with many packages at one time - big trouble may occur... Is the output of dselect logged somewhere? This woud help much, because most of the errors are not even readable when hushing over the screen. At least, the benefits of .deb are a bad in another way... They make the system intransparent for the user. A year ago, i dealt with slackware. After installing everything - step by step - i had a good feeling for the system, just _because_ i wrote almost every config-file by myself. So i learned to know the system (step by step - from easy to complex). dselect puts everything where it should be, but doesn't tell the user anything of it's actions. At least the package-descriptions should contain some info about all the installed files (their names and their destination-paths). Mac, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .