Re: Client for AFS?
On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Andree Leidenfrost wrote: > The Subject syas it all: Is there a Debian package of the Linux port of > the Andrew File System client? Unfortunatelly AFS is commercial software. There is a client for Linux available for money. Please contact your AFS contractor. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs." (By Dennis Ritchie) Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound and NIC problem
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: > gets it right... always 0x010 more) Now, they decided to add > an AWE32 Plug-n-Pray sound card. Win95 went ok, but no sound > under Linux, and then the smc card seems to stop working. AWE32 Plug&Play is not supported under Linux. Nevertheless I managed to get it working with isapnp. isapnp is a tool which lets you read/set the settings of p7p cards. I recommend installing a SB16 device driver for the AWE32. The wave table drivers are not considered stable. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Oh, I've seen copies [of Linux Journal] around the terminal room at The Labs." (By Dennis Ritchie) Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to type accents with pine in a msg?
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Martin Alonso Soto Jacome wrote: > Hi Carlos: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > How is it possible to type accents in a mail msg. composed with pine? > > I saw no mention of 8bit composing in the man page, docs and config > > files. > > Is far as I know, there's no way to type accents with pine's built in editor. > > I guess you have to use an external editor like emacs, for example. It does > a > prety good job with accents, but may be quite slow to start up. Oh, there are ways to get accents with pico. (the build in editor of pine). Firstly you have to teach your shell to use the right character set and then put the tight iso string into your .pinerc Yours, -- martin +++ the KDE project mailing lists +++ kde-announce (Announcements)kde (general discussion) kde-devel (Development issues) kde-look (look and feel issues) To subscribe (unsubscribe), send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with empty subject line and subscribe (unsubscribe) [your-email-address] in the message body -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
I just made a debian-sysadmins Mailing list. +++ the debian-sysadmins mailing list +++ To subscribe (unsubscribe), send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with empty subject line and subscribe (unsubscribe) [your-email-address] in the message body -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3c509 card trouble?
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, David Wright wrote: > Sometimes two or three times a day, this appears on the console (I > extracted this from /var/log/messages and wrapped a few lines): > > kernel: invalid operand: > kernel: CPU:0 > kernel: EIP:0010:[<0017>] > kernel: EFLAGS: 00010207 Please report problems of this kind to Linus or Alan. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two last problems...
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: > The first problem is that syslogd is keeping the load on my machine at > 1.0 even if nothin else is happenning with the system. At the same time > I get huge numbers of 'The last message repeated 123456 times' appearing > in /var/log/messages' Is there a way to get syslogd to work correctly? > Please check your logfile. Which message was repeated 123456 times? You hace to resolve this problem which does cause the message? Maybe you installed some sw and removed it afterwards? // Martin Konold,Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making kernel using "make install"
On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Pete Templin wrote: Hi there, > Ah-hah! Finally, what seems to be a simple sequence of commands for > building a new kernel. But what must I do to ensure that my old kernel > will continue to work (with its modules), especially if lilo wants to > complain that the new kernel is too large? I assume that certain files > and directories ought to be backed up or renamed or something, but some > pointers to "safe" kernel testing would be very helpful! Every kernel release gets its own direcory in /etc/modules/ So no need to backup the modules. The new directory gets created with make modules_install Yours, -- martin +++ the KDE project mailing lists +++ kde-announce (Announcements)kde (general discussion) kde-devel (Development issues) kde-look (look and feel issues) To subscribe (unsubscribe), send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with empty subject line and subscribe (unsubscribe) [your-email-address] in the message body -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to build a custom kernel (xconfig)
On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Kevin McEnhill wrote: > I am trying to build my self a custom kernel and I have run into a problem > that is a bit annoying. To make my .config file, I ran 'make xconfig' and > it crashed out with the following message. > bash# make xconfig > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server > application-specific initialization failed: couldn't connect to display > ":0.0" Your desktop aka X11 display is owned by the person (uid) who started X11 via startx or who locked in via xdm. You try to do 'make xconfig' as root (uid=0). You have to allow this user to use the X11 Display. Just read the man page for xhost. Or try 'xhost +localhost' Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZyXEL CAPI driver
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, ciccio wrote: > According to he manual, CAPI is the only way to access the second > B-channel while the first is being used, not using another serial port > (which is occupied by the mouse). Yes this is of course true. You need an extra tty if you want to use a second destination at the same time. I do not know about channel bundling. (this means 2 B channels aka 128kbit to the same site.) I does work for sync ppp for internal cards. You might consider getting a cheap passiv internal card (about $100). These are capable of using up to two channels withoput occupiing any tty. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: S3V
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Michael Gajhede wrote: Dear Michael, > Help would be appreaciated > I am running debian 1.2 on a box with a S3 Virge card 4 mb. > Runs fine with 8 bitplanes at 1280x1024, but how do I get 16 bitplanes ? The support of the S3 Virge Chip is very new. I am not shure wether 16 aka hicolor is already supported in case it is please start your Xsession with 'startx -- -bpp 16' from your text console Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ZyXEL CAPI driver
On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, ciccio wrote: Dear Ciccio, > Is there anywhere a CAPI driver for zyxel's ISDN `modem's? CAPI is a brain dead Win/DOS crap. You do not need CAPI for using your ZyXel with linux. Just use the tty like for normal modems. You may use e.g. ppp this way. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: improvements
Dear ml users, Please do NOT use html mail. This format is not standard and cannor be interpreted by most mail readers. Thank you, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Maintaining multiple Debian boxes
On 7 Jan 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > Why not just pop /usr and /home on one machine and NFS mount them out > to all the other boxes? There a simple performance reason not to use nfs that extensively, I think! A free Anrew File System like setup would be nice to deal with these kind of nfs perfomrance problems. We do use a commercial tool called venus for administering our linux Ppro Cluster together with Iri, Ultrix and VMS machines. This tool does the distribution of new software, home dirs, passwd Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LaserJet IIIp and apsfilter
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Arrigo Triulzi wrote: Dear Arrigo, > I have a problem with a LaserJet IIIp and apsfilter. It is my > understanding that the memory requirements for 300x300 are of 1.5Mb > and the standard box comes with 1Mb, i.e. I am limited to 150x150. No, I think that you are able to get 300x300 dpi with your setup. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Gertjan Klein wrote: Thanks for your nice proposal. I like it very much. > The kernel 'make menuconfig' is a nice example. This is IMHO an excellent example how it could be done. In the kernel hierachy you might enter: 'make config' 'make menuconfig' 'make xconfig' Every time you get a folding editor like choice. You might use plain tty, ncurses or even tcl/tk. All these mathods are based on the same data, so that driver developers may provide a single file with the help info etc. I do think you know how it is working... > > Unless a group like this is already in place, I propose that we form a > > working group to initially hash out how dselect should be improved, > > and then to actually implement those improvements. Yes, a very good point. I am offering a host for a mailing list. We should first figure out how it should work and implement it afterwards. There is definetelly a need for a improved dselect. Actually why is the maintainer so silent? Is dselect still maintained? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A proposal to improve dselect
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Developers, > Over the last year, I've done many installations and upgrades of > debian using dselect. During that time, I've learned how to use it -- > and I find it quite comfortable use. What you are used to is easy, I > guess. Since we seem to be picking on dselect's user interface again, > I wish it had more "emacs-like" key bindings, but it's a marvelous > tool as it is, IMHO. PLEASE, please, please do not confront people with 'emacs-like' keybindings. This would scare away newbies without impressing experienced people too much. The more experienced people quite often use plain dpkg and are happy with these cli-tools. IMHO thee should be an easy accessible online help for dselect which explains the accellerator keys and the concept in short. How about a ncurses approach? Folding editopr like? nc like?... Please make dselect user friendly and easy to understand. It is the front door of Debian to first time users. ALL users to whom I recommended Debian (even the experienced) users complained so far about dselect as beeing hard to use. These people mostly complained about the keybindings and endless depenency problems. They sometimes seems to be caught by help screens of which they do not know how to get rid of them... A lot of these problems have already been addressed in this list. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with /etc/printcap
On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Dany Dionne wrote: > I try to print on a ethernet printer ( HP Laserjet 4m ) and i have some > problem with /etc/printcap, so i can use the printer. > If i try to print with lpr or if i try a lpq, i receive the error message: > > lpr: lp: unknow printer. The printer named 'lp' is not defined just add an alias in your first line. It will then look like: lj-5|lp|remote-hplj:\ > > My /etc/printcap is: > > lj-5|remote-hplj:\ > :lp=/dev/null:sh:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5:\ > :rm=132.203.76.56:rp=raw: > Gruesse, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Just a Proposition....:-)))
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Daniel Stringfield wrote: I there, I do not consider X11 or svgalib based setup programs to be appropriate. dselect has to run in a very early stage of installing Debian. There are too many compatibility issues here. BUT, there is a tradition of relativelly good looking ncurses based installation/maintance tools. I do think that the current look&feel of dselect is not attractive as a lot of other people mentioned. Some kind of EASY to understand accelleration keys. And a more structured layout like a folding editor would be nice. How about something like mc ala Norton clone. The packages could be organized in series aka folders. > Well, instead of X... something like SVGALib would be better... because > its less to install than X. But.. like my machine i'm typing away on now, > only has a cheezy 256k video board in it and will have a monochrome vga > monitor once I get the money to buy it. (I stole a monitor from one of my > other systems for now) I don't want X to EVER EVER set foot on this > system! This is my server, and nothing more. It is not a workstation. > I do however have SVGALIB installed. And think svgalib would be more than > easy to deal with, as far as vs. X. Doing away with dselect is not really > an option. Unfortunately. :) Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DEBIAN 1.2 DISKETTE PROBLEMS UPDATE
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Thomas Veldhouse wrote: > reiterate, my question is, will I have telnet and ftp capability when I > install all of the packages from my hard drive. Debian does offer a lot of choices how to install your system. After installing the netstd-package from your harddrive you will have telnet/ftp capabilities. I do expect that this package is part of your collection on the DOS drive. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 problems
On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Kaj Wiik wrote: > When trying to run g77 on 1.2 I get > > gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory > > gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory > > Still f771 exists: > > >locate f771 > /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2/f771 Too bad that this did not get fixed in 1.2. The problem arises, because gcc got upgrade from 2.7.2 to 2.7.2.1 The g77 does depend on the gcc. But there is no new g77 for the 2.7.2.1 version of gcc. The work around is to get the old stuff from 1.1 (maybe you have it left) and make a link to ../2.7.2/f771 Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11R6 package in Debian 1.2 bugs (?)
On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Xinbing Liu wrote: > (2). tcsh doesn't work properly: I can't ftp into my computer from > another computer if my shell is tcsh (as specified in /etc/passwd). It > gives me "user access denied". > However, if I say csh in /etc/passwd, ftp works fine, even though the > shell is still tcsh (I didn't install csh, so csh defaults to tcsh, I > guess). Very strange. > Put whatever shell into /etc/shells. It will then work. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rm -r/-R/--recursive doesn't seem to work
On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: Hi Zwerg, > I just built a distribution tree from a CD on my hard disk. I tried to > remove all the TRANS.TBL files from the tree by using: > rm -r TRANS.TBL > Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug in rm? > TIA, > Dwarf You missunderstodd the purpose of 'rm -r' This command lets you recursively remove a directory structure like 'rm -rf /home'. Please have a look at 'man find' 'man rm' After checking these man pages you might be enlighted. If you really cannot figure it out yourself then pleas contact me directly. I will then mail you the command line. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.1 memory management issue ??
On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Thank heavens! 1.1 had terrible memory management. 1.2 (REX) is _much_ > > > > better. > > > The memory management issue mentioned here with 1.1 may explain some > > > slowness with my (1.1) machines. > > I do not get the point! Memory management is the job of the kernel. > > How does it depend on the distribution? > Well, if you upgrade your system as a distribution, rather than piece-meal, > on-the-fly, method (via dftp), it sure does make sense that a "distribution" > influences memory management issues. I choose to wait until a stable > distribution has been declared and upgrade my entire system in one sitting. > That way, I _know_ that all the necessary packages have been upgraded. > Unlike another gentleman on this list who upgraded the kernel, but did not > upgrade the libc5 module and could not understand why his machine was slow. > 8-) Sorry I still do not get the point. Debian 1.1 never seemed to be slow to me compared to any other distribution. Of course any broken setup you might get by unstable/partial updates might slow down your machine to any degree. But this still means that contradictionary to the above statement 1.1 was not slow. Yours -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my machine won't let me login!
On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote: > Continuing with my saga of little problems, my machine "spacewalker" isn > 't letting anyone log in. not through telnet, or console mingetty. > its like its allowing it to log in. but then logs you back out. > i was on it last night, and all was well. now this morning.. uh. nope! Did you try it via ftp? Maybe it is a .profile problem? > BTW, if I do a three finger salute, it won't reboot, just kicks the hard > drive once. hmm, what happens when you boot from a rescue disk set? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SVGATextMode and S3 card problem
On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Oz Dror wrote: Hi there, > Video Card: Diamond Stealth Video Vram (3200) > When Switching from Xfree to SVGATextMode, the monitor (S3 Card) > become out of sync. > I have to run the command SVGATextMode to resync the monitor. > Is there a way to fix that You already applied the workaround. The fix would be the XF86_S3 Server. You may contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] He is maintainig the S3 servers. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 1.1 memory management issue ??
On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, David B. Teague wrote: Hi there, > > Thank heavens! 1.1 had terrible memory management. 1.2 (REX) is _much_ > > better. > > The memory management issue mentioned here with 1.1 may explain some > slowness with my (1.1) machines. I do not get the point! Memory management is the job of the kernel. How does it depend on the distribution? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: olwm, reply-to field
On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: > > problem 2: > > PINE tells me my reply-to address field may be incorrect, which I confirmed > > by sending mail to myself. it only gives "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", and not the > > whole > > domain. How do I change this? > > Sorry, don't have any experience with PINE. Sounds like the Reply-To > field > is set to some default that can be changed by user configuration though. Yes, you have to edit your ~/.pinerc accordingly Yours, -- martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It happened again.
On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Gith wrote: > or someone on irc found a nice exploit to play with or the irc program > itself has problems. > > Any suggestions? ( Besides staying off irc ) Which account do you use for irc? -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: files...
On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, > Hi! I am new on Linux. I've got some files called x.deb > What's the meanning of .DEB? And how can I copy files It is a debian package file. To be used by dpkg or better dselect. > from a floppy disk to a hard disk (in DOS we use > "copy a:*.* c:\dir"). How can I do it on Linux? Try mcopy "a:*.*" /tmp/ > Can Linux read an ASCII file that is saved on a floppy that > DOS had written? yes it can. Try mtools and maybe recode to get the umlauts right. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual pentium
On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: Dear Bruce, > I haven't heard of anyone trying SMP (symmetric multiprocessing) yet. > You'd probably be the first. You may install without problems with one of your single processor kernels. > You'd have to recompile the kernel with SMP support. There also may be > some SMP support tools that should be packaged for Debian. Try it out, > and tell us how difficult it was. Yes you will have to edit the kernel Makefile by hand. Just remove two comments and enable MAKE=make -j3 in order to get you kernel compiled in 2:12min :-)) Yours, -- martin P.S. I am running Debian 1.1 happilly since the september. // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual pentium
On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Fundamental wrote: > Can debian 1.1 handle dual PPro Processors? Definetelly! I running it right now :-) (ASUS, DualPPro,256MB,9GB) ( I made my > 2GB partitions after rebooting with base install Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it crucial to use cfdisk to repartition
On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Walter Tautz wrote: Hi Walter, > by slackware. I take it that one can skip the `initialization' step and > simply use the existing partitions or is it advised that I repartition > using cfdisk? There is no immediate need for repartitioning with cfdisk. If you are happy with your current layout, just keep it! Yours, -- martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TCP/IP protocol
On Sat, 21 Dec 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! I would like to know in which FTP stie can I find the TCP/IP > protocol for Microsoft Windows 3.11 for Workgroups. Hi you may get it from ftp.microsoft.com, or from fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing question ...
On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Thanks to everyone who replied. I had the "burst" page > suppressed with the :sh: boolean, and even tried the -h option to > the lpr command, but the boolean I was looking for isn't > implemented on linux. That doesn't matter because the problem is > at the printer. It turns out that this printer is running its > own lpd service and it can only be configured with HP's software > (JetAdmin), which isn't available on Linux. I'll try to get a You may also telnet to the hp printer and set that kond of stuff from there. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing question ...
On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Does anybody know how to prevent a banner page from being > printed? Try inserting ':sh:' in you /etc/printcap. This entry means 'suppress header' Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
spam filter as a debian package
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Nick Busigin wrote: > Are you planning on publishing your spam filter? I for one would like to > implement it on mailing lists I run on one of my machines. I would like to get it published as a debian package for proclist/smartlist. Is this possible? Bruce? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help g77 broken
On Mon, 16 Dec 1996, Alex Lobkovsky wrote: > Thanks a bunch this worked. Should this be reproted as a bug? I do not think that this is a bugfix but it is work around. The problem is that gcc and g77 are maintained by different people. This leads to these probnlems when you do update gcc but the new version of g77 is not ready. This is what happend to you. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modules 2.0.0-14
On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote: I just did the downgrade to 2.0.0-13. Everything is working again. Thanks for your help. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modules 2.0.0-14
On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Paul Seelig wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Martin Konold wrote: > > This leads to the question how to downgrade with dselect? > > > Why not use dpkg for this uncommon job? Thanks for the tip to you and Bruce. Actually I do not think that this is a so much uncommon job. Not every new version of a package is flawless. So there are cases where you wish to downgrade, file a bug report and wait for the next debian version of the package. I might be a good idea to have this possibility from within dselect. dselect's version management is really advanced... Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modules 2.0.0-14
On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > I think modules-2.0.0-14.deb has been withdrawn. -13 is in "frozen" now. > We have modules 2.1.8-1.deb in "unstable", but that may depend on the > currently-shaky 2.1.x kernel. This leads to the question how to downgrade with dselect? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modules 2.0.0-14
On 1 Dec 1996, Nils Naumann wrote: > Hallo, > > modules 2.0.0-14 has destroyed my System. Every attempt to install a > module has created a kernel Oops. I had to build a new kernel with all > needed drivers linked in. Downgrading to modules 2.0.0-13 solved this > Problem. Same here, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NCR53c7,8xxx SCSI controller?
On 26 Nov 1996, Norman Walsh wrote: > Are alternate boot disks available anywhere? (I seem to recall a > selection of them back in the Debian 0.9x days.) Bruce will make some for the upcoming new public Debian[TM] Release. YOu can easily make your own boot disks if you have a running linux system available. If you do not need ATAPI the I do have a custom ncr810 boot disk on my ftp site. Have a look at ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/Goodies/ncr* Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
, common code to the apps,...) a window manager kwm a command line interface cli (simialar to the one of Nextstep) Please have a look at the outdated but nice screenshot from Nov, 10 ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz > In other words, it has to be a backwards-compatible upgrade rather than > a revolutionary, new, and incompatible change. I suspect that this is > close to impossible given the existing fragmentation and incompatibility > between the various x gui libraries. You can still run any X11 app on a kde desktop! There are no limitaitons. Just don't expect them to be configurable via the kdelib or to be able to use an URL from their fileselector) It is more like gv/ghostview :-) > If these points are not met by kde, then kde will go the way of all > other attempts to unify X GUI programming under one glorious scheme: it > will be just another one of the many available options. (this, btw, is > both the beauty AND the bane of X - it's wonderfully customisable and > configurable...the trouble is that you MUST customise & configure it) This is the point which led to kde. The look and feel shall be orthogonal. (therefor the URL approach). It shall be easily configurable to anyones taste. (Keybindings,colors, geometries... are configurable in kdelib..) > in fact, even if kde DOES satisfy all of the above points it is extremely > likely that that will be the case anyway. Just because something new and > wonderful exists doesn't mean that you should throw away stuff that is old > and wonderful or just old and useful. You are perfectly right here. There is so much very good stuff out there which can hardly be met. Just imagine (X)emacs or the powerfull bash. But why not configure your emacs via a central GUI kdecontrol? Why not launch gimp from the kfm? Why not paste your favorite Linux ftp URL into kless? > There is a lot of time and effort and programming hours invested in > motif and athena (and other x library) based applications. The kde > people may want to think of these as "legacy applications" but to the > rest of the world, they are still very much alive and kicking. Right, but they tend to be hard to program. They are not free (Motif) for developing gpl apps..) > the existence of this "legacy software" is one of the things that makes > unix and linux so attractive to so many people. free operating system, > free applications...all you have to do is download them off the net > and compile (or install a pre-compiled debian package). Windoze users > have their expensive off-the-shelf applications library. We have our > compile-it-yourself off-the-net applications library. (i know what i > prefer :-) Shure I got your point. How about having a look at the kde apps and mail me privately (or the kde lists) about your experiences? Your input is very much welcome! A lot of thingd still have to be discussed. The kde is still VERY young and evolving. Yours, -- martin P.S. Please NO follow ups to this message on the debian lists any more. Originally I started this thread to ask for an GUI based alternativ to dselect, which can be more easily used by novices. I do have the impression that the discussion now just went to much general... Personally I would also be happy about an easily used and fully functional xdeslect based on anything else than Qt. // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Jonas Bofjall wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, William Burrow wrote: > > > While the Qt authors may have different concerns than Knuth does over > > TeX, the idea may be the same: modified versions may reflect badly on > > Troll Tech. > > This is not the whole story, since it is only their X version that is free > for non-commercial use. Porting your free app to, say, MSwin just isn't > possible, and porting is the whole point of using GUI libraries. No the point is that Qt will be used to make the Unix Desktop Environement. There is no goal so far to port the kde to none unix environments. Portability is not the issue, but nice look&feel for the unix desktop users. Most kde people do not care about Winblows. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Buddha M Buck wrote: > In any event, Motif is -not- required for Xemacs in the same way that > Qt would be required for LyX. True, you may also use Athena widgets. Maybe others too. > > You did not tell in which respect the Xforms license is less restricting > > than the Qt license! > > Please do so. > > Sure... I mistyped. I meant to type "...GPL." instead of "...Xforms > license". The rest of the discussion I had described what you could > do naturally under GPL but not with Qt with its licensing the way it > is now, thus demonstrating that the Qt license was more restrictive > than GPL. Agreed. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Buddha Buck wrote: > > Of course the apps CAN be gpled! Even if they have to be linked against > > some commercial libs. > Not by my reading of the GPL. > > There are hundreds of gpled Motif based pieces of software out there. > > Name 5.By your assertion, I could modify GNU Emacs to use Motif > widgets, and distribute the modified version freely, under the GPL. I > am certain that if I were to do that, one of the first people I would > hear complaints from would be RMS himself. There is actually a Motif Version of Emacs called Motif Xemacs (used to be called Lucid Emacs) I just ckecked the copyright statement on the moste recent version (19.14) It definetlely is GPL! > > > > Soon LyX will also be Qt based. > > > That's too bad, I kind of like lyx. > > Obviously, you unfortunately do not know hwat you are talking about, > > sorry. > Try taking a look at V. It is GPLed, available in source form, and > also a C++, object oriented approach to a GUI. > > So even for the GNU purists it must be evident, that Qt is LESS > > restricting than the Xforms license. > But it is still MORE restricting in key ways than the Xforms licence. You did not tell in which respect the Xforms license is less restricting than the Qt license! Please do so. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Heiko Schlittermann wrote: > > Then they can't be GPL'd. You should read the license. It > prohibits modification restrictions (which QT has). Of course the apps CAN be gpled! Even if they have to be linked against some commercial libs. There are hundreds of gpled Motif based pieces of software out there. You are not allowed to distribute changed version of the library but you are welcome to change the gpled application as you like. > > Soon LyX will also be Qt based. > > > > That's too bad, I kind of like lyx. Obviously, you unfortunately do not know hwat you are talking about, sorry. The very first versions of LyX have been Motif 1.2 based. This had the BIG disadvantage that the co developers did not want to buy the commercial Motif stuff. Matthias then switched to Xforms. They most recent stable beta is based on Xform 0.81. Xforms is free of charge for non commercial use. The developers do NOT provide their source code. Xforms is limited due to time constraints of the two developers. LyX will in the near future switch to Qt. Qt is in contrast to Xforms available free of charge to the freeware community and much more important it is WITH source code! It has also advantages from the programmers point of view. (C++...) So even for the GNU purists it must be evident, that Qt is LESS restricting than the Xforms license. How does it come that you are talking about stuff you do not understand. I personally would appreciate something like alladins license for ghostscript beeing applied for Qt. But Qt is still a very new, but promising project. > You never got back to me on the kterm issue. It seems to me that > the KDE kterm is _not_ the same as the long standing JE version > of xterm of the same name. This is poor netiquette at best and > micro$oft like behavior at worst. What's the deal? This QT/KDE > mentality is rubbing the wrong way already. kterm is neither directly based on the JE version of xterm nor on xterm but on rxvt(which is not gpl, but free). Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please do not use Qt (fwd)
On 20 Nov 1996, Arnt Gulbrandsen (Troll) wrote: > As I said wrote earlier, the license doesn't limit distribution in any > way which is particularly relevant to CD distribution. Quoting: > > You may copy this version of the Qt toolkit provided that the > entire archive is distributed unchanged and as a whole, > including this notice. > > That's what applies to FTP archive administrators, and that's what > applies to CD vendors. Ok, I will forward this to the cdrom producers/Debian people. Yours, --martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAM > 64M ?
On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Pierre Ferruit wrote: Hi there, > I'm running Linux (2.0.24 SMP) on a computer (PPro 180 MHz x 2) with > 128M of RAM. But, it seems that only 64M of RAM are detected by Linux (I > used free to look at that). > > If someone knows a solution to this problem, I am very interested... I run the same (2xPpro 200/128MB) Just add append="mem=128M" to your /etc/lilo.conf Yours, martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X is painful + GPLed solution
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > > # Have look at the kde project. > > The problem with kde is that they use qt, which has a very > restrictive license that makes it non-free software (in > particular, they do not allow any modified version of the > library to be distributed). Remember it is OO so you can easily create new classes Of course you are allowed to distribute your classes under the gpl. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ldconfig warning : inconsistent soname??
On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: > > > ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtix.so.4.1b1 has inconsistent soname > > > (libtix.so.4.1), skipping > > > > That's a bug in whatever package provides /usr/lib/libtix.so.4.1.b1. > > File a bug report. > > It's been fixed in tix41-4.1b1-4, and is uploaded to master. > Available soon in rex and bo at your closest debian mirror. Similar problems here with: ldconfig: warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname ( libncurses.so.3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtix.so.4.1b1 has inconsistent soname (libtix.so.4 .1), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libmenu.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname (libmenu.s o.3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libpanel.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname (libpanel .so.3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libform.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname (libform.s o.3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libhistory.so.2.0.1 has inconsistent soname (libread line.so.2.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so has inconsistent soname (libncurses.so.3.0 ), skipping ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.3 has inconsistent soname (libncurses.so.3 .0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.1.9 has inconsistent soname (libncurses.so .3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.1.9.9e has inconsistent soname (libncurses .so.3.0), skipping ldconfig: warning: /lib/libncurses.so.2.1 has inconsistent soname (libncurses.so .3.0), skipping Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big IDE drive on old bios
On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Is this < 1024 cylinders only an issue if you don't have LBA mode? Yes it is. It is a problem on old PC BIOSes which did not support more than 1024 Cyl. It is also a problem of DOS Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big IDE drive on old bios
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Paul Christenson wrote: > On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Stephen Fuqua wrote: > > However, the way I recommend is NOT to use lilo, but loadlin. Create a > small (a few meg) DOS partition as the first partition, and have the > AUTOEXEC.BAT simply run loadlin. Hmm, just try 'linear and compact' in /etc/lilo.conf loadlin in a linux only is a waste of space and gives B.G an other $ he does not deserve. If you really need loadlin (I doubt) then use a simple freedos solution. Just have a look at the well implemented Debian boot floppies. Yours, -- martin P.S. Will the upcoming Debian 1.2 support the SCSI NC810 for booting? // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 bashing
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote: > -> Have look at the kde project. > [ Stuff snipped ] > > I strongly doubt that KDE has the momentum to succeed. It's based on > Qt, which is a proprietary standard. Granted the implementation is > delivered 'free for noncommercial use', but I don't see that as a > significant difference. It's still a proprietary toolkit, which will > keep the GNU crowd disinterested, as well as making it inappropriate > for Debian proper. In contrast to motif Qt is fully C++ OO. Qt comes with source. Any gpled sw can be distributed with soure or binary of Qt. Just building proprietary sw without source.. cost money. So it is really free and can be well used for gpled sw. > So, you replace an 'open', well known API with a proprietary > implementation (and the rapidly developing lesstif) with a > proprietary, unknown API with an open distribution model. Not a > significant win in my eyes. Motif is outdated and broken in my eyes. Lesstiff suffers a lot from beeing forced to implement all these crippled c stuff. Qt if fully C++ Just my $0.02 Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xv requires libtiff3
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi! > > I just upgraded to the most recent release of xv from the > non-free section and it is giving me the dependency problem > that it requires libtiff3. Yet, I can't find libtiff3. > Am I looking in the wrong place or something? Did you have a look at ftp.sgi.com? /sgi/fax/source/tiff-v3.4-tar.gz should work. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: g77 failure
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, David Gaudine wrote: > On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote: > > > > I have now installed: > > > gcc_2.7.2.1-2.deb > > > g77_0.5.18-2.deb > > > > > gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or > directory > > As I understand it, f77 wants gcc 2.7.2 and not gcc 2.7.2.1 As a workaround I did now the following: cd /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ ln -s ../2.7.2/libf2c.a . ln -s ../2.7.2/f771 . I will now have to check wether it still works in all cases. Development team: Please consider if there shouldn't be a dependency between g77 and gcc versions, which shall be resolved by dselect. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 bashing
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, CoB SysAdmin wrote: > > > I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is > > > still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface. > > This is a true problem which last from the fact that X11 is seperated > > from the stadart toolkit Motif (which is payware) > Well, you have to understand that, when MIT started developing X, the > intention was to provide, in their words, "Mechanism, not policy". Basically, > this means that they wanted to provide a GUI environment without imposing > any particular GUI conventions on it. It was completely open. There is now the qt based kde (kool desktop environment) project. It tries to handles these problems. Kde is fully OO and free. Have a look at: http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/kde.txt or http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/index.html or http://www.zws.com/kde/ and http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~cooperb/kde/style.html Yours, martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg problems
> Hi there, > how to resolve > > Processing status file... > Odd number of elements in hash list at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install > line 75, chunk 8174. > > Processing Package files... > rex... > Odd number of elements in hash list at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install > line 124, chunk 14269. > non-free... > Odd number of elements in hash list at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install > line 124, chunk 1517. > buzz-fixed... > Odd number of elements in hash list at /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install > line 124, chunk 8703. > bo... > Odd number of elements in hash list -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- This message was distributed manually by [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the list initially failed to distribute it.
forward to debian-user
> Subject: failure notice > On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > > This message was definetelly not appropriate for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I even do not know if it is for [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Is there still a debian-talk list? > > > > I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is > > still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface. > > This is a true problem which last from the fact that X11 is seperated > from the stadart toolkit Motif (which is payware) > > > > The STUPIDITY of the whole thing is frustrating. > > Yes this is also true. There is now orthogonal user interface. > > > Text fields between applications do not work the same. One is not > > guranteed to be able to copy/paste text between fields. Some fields must > > have the mouse pointer within them during the editing process, some don't. > > This is due to different toolkits. > > > There is no inter-application communication or awareness to speak of. > > This can be handelt via sockets,fifos > > [lot of stuff about deficiencies of X11 based desktops] > >!! There is a solution up and coming !! > > Have look at the kde project. > > You will find kde mirrors at the following locations: > ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/ <-- primary site > ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/kde/ > ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/linux/kde/ > > WWW info can be found at: > http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/kde.txt > http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/index.html > http://www.zws.com/kde/ > http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~cooperb/kde/style.html > > There is a nice screenshot of an already working kde (kool desktop > environment) > > http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz > > > We already do have: > kcalc a nifty kde calculator with hex, dec, oct, bin > kclocka simple analog kde clock > kfm the kde filemanager (also handles URLs and tar) > kminesa kde minesweeper clone > kpat a kde solitaer clone > colia a kde draw program which shall replace xfig/tgif > kMix a kde mixer for your soundcard > kterm a kde replacement for xterm > libkdea configuration class library > kpopupa kde extension to Qt > progress a kde extension to Qt > kwm a kde windows manager > acli a little command line interface > > Soon to come > > kLyX a kde version of the famous WYSIWYM LaTeX based textprocessor > ktetris a kde version of tetris (we've been all waiting for :-)) > > > Yours, > -- martin > > BTW: Who wants to write a dpkg based installer for kde. > > > // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // > // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // >Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades >-- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- > >Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! > Worked for me all the times. > -- Linus Torvalds -- -- This message was distributed manually by [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the list initially failed to distribute it.
help?!
Hi there, I do get the following message from dpkg: /tmp/debian>dpkg --install --auto-deconfigure libc5-dev_5.4.7-6.deb (Reading database ... 25826 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libc5-dev 5.4.7-6 (using libc5-dev_5.4.7-6.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libc5-dev ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libc5-dev: libc5-dev depends on libc5 (= 5.4.7-6); however: Version of libc5 on system is 5.4.7-7. dpkg: error processing libc5-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: libc5-dev I do think that dpkg should not complain about having a more recent version. Any help? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- This message was distributed manually by [EMAIL PROTECTED] after the list initially failed to distribute it.
Re: Big IDE drive on old bios
On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, Stephen Fuqua wrote: > Will I be able to get lilo to boot off the 1gig drive when I > make a root partition smaller than 1023 cylinders? Can I be > pretty sure that I can at least boot the thing with a floppy? YOu got the point already! Go for it. I do make a small root partition /dev/hda with less then 40MB. Switch of any maybe available BIOS translations etc. the kernel will handle the big drive happilly after booting. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 bashing
On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Rick Macdonald wrote: > Martin Konold wrote: > > There is a nice screenshot of an already working kde (kool desktop > > environment) > > http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz > > This link doesn't seem to exist. What should it be? Sorry! This URL should work ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz I just checked it myself with netscape. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 bashing
Hi there, This message was definetelly not appropriate for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I even do not know if it is for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there still a debian-talk list? > I cannot believe that after HOW MANY years of development, X windows is > still such a completely inconsistent and painful user interface. This is a true problem which last from the fact that X11 is seperated from the stadart toolkit Motif (which is payware) > The STUPIDITY of the whole thing is frustrating. Yes this is also true. There is no orthogonal user interface. > Text fields between applications do not work the same. One is not > guranteed to be able to copy/paste text between fields. Some fields must > have the mouse pointer within them during the editing process, some don't. This is due to different toolkits. > There is no inter-application communication or awareness to speak of. This can be handled via sockets,fifos,ipc... [lot of stuff about deficiencies of X11 based desktops] !! There is a solution up and coming !! Have look at the kde project. You will find kde mirrors at the following locations: ftp://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/pub/kde/ <-- primary site ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/kde/ ftp://ftp.nvg.unit.no/pub/linux/kde/ WWW info can be found at: http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/kde.txt http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/index.html http://www.zws.com/kde/ http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~cooperb/kde/style.html There is a nice screenshot of an already working kde (kool desktop environment) http://fiwi02.wiwi.uni-tuebingen.de/kde/demos/kdescreenshot1.jpg.gz We already do have: kcalc a nifty kde calculator with hex, dec, oct, bin kclocka simple analog kde clock kfm the kde filemanager (also handles URLs and tar) kminesa kde minesweeper clone kpat a kde solitaer clone colia a kde draw program which shall replace xfig/tgif kMix a kde mixer for your soundcard kterm a kde replacement for xterm libkdea configuration class library kpopupa kde extension to Qt progress a kde extension to Qt kwm a kde windows manager acli a little command line interface Soon to come kLyX a kde version of the famous WYSIWYM LaTeX based textprocessor ktetris a kde version of tetris (we've been all waiting for :-)) Yours, -- martin BTW: Who wants to write a dpkg based installer for kde. // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
g77 failure
forwared message > Hi there, > > I also do have problems with g77 from bo > The stable version worked flawlessly for me > > I have now installed: > gcc_2.7.2.1-2.deb > g77_0.5.18-2.deb > libc5-dev_5.4.7-7.deb > > g77 keeps telling me: > > g77 pvscaleeis.f > gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `f771': No such file or directory > > Any help? > > Thanks, > -- martin > > // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // > // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // >Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades >-- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- > >Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! > Worked for me all the times. > -- Linus Torvalds -- > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Paul Seelig wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Martin Konold wrote: > > I would like to be able to install packages on stand alone systems > > without X11 > I second that! I'd prefer it the way 'dselect' already is working on the > console and in an xterm under X11. A GUI oriented installation tool is a > waste of CPU time, memory, disk space and man power (regarding it's Mainly it is a big problems on machines which are not supported by the standart XFree86 servers or on low level machines which are not capable running X11. Another point is python. Python is NOT standard on every machine. I would prefer a much improved dselect. Todays dselect is not convinient to be used. It is like emacs to the novice. (cryptic, non-standard interface, funny keyboard accel keys, no menues...) How about a static linked ncurses version? > This was one of the negative reasons not to choose RedHat BTW. Although > the present 'dselect' is not cause for joy either... Another disadvantage of GLINT is that it is not intuitive how to install packages from custom user directories. So im am looking forward for a much improved dselect, which makes use of ncurses, menus...) Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Kevin K. Lewis wrote: > A la GLINT, I suppose, though I've never seen it. I think it would be > fun to work on something like this. Maybe Debian could just use GLINT > and massage the backend (and add stuff for the additional Debian > package features). Can GLINT be used without X11 and without python? I would like to be able to install packages on stand alone systems without X11 Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Linux - because reboots are for hardware upgrades -- Edwin Huffstutler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Just go ahead and write your own multitasking multiuser os ! Worked for me all the times. -- Linus Torvalds -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem installing with NCR 53c8x0
On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Larry Riedel wrote: > > I am using the boot floppy from the 1.1 distribution. I have an > ASUS P55T2P4 (Triton II) motherboard with the ASUS SCSI adaptor > (NCR 53c8x0) and a generic ISA VGA video card. The motherboard > has an onboard floppy controller, etc. > > Here is a piece of the boot messages: > >NCR53c406a: no available ports found >PPA: unable to initialise controller at 0x378, error 2 >scsi : 0 hosts. >scsi : detected total > This is NOT the driver for a NCR53c810 Chip used on ASUS SC200 etc. There is currently no support in Debian for this actually popular card. YOurs, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: Debian 1.1 will include the Linux 2.0 kernel
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: > > 1.) There are distributions which only need to rawrite one singel disk. > > versa five! > > beg pardon? debian requires two, root & boot. It also requires either > the 3 disks, or a file (base1_1.tgz) be available in the top two levels > of the file system. > > Given a CD packaging, i suspect that the requirement for the root disk > could be eliminated, making it one disk (but i don't know enough about > file systems; don't hold me to this :). > > Similarly, a pair could be made with nfs support in the boot kernel, > which would require an nfs source for the rest of the files. You are right this _could_ be made. But I do think that this should be considered for the new unstable aka 1.2 Release. The documentation of 1.1 tells the user to prepare boot, root, base[1-3] this sums up to 5 disks. Actually I do think it is more important to support most of the standard hardware components than to change the install procedure for 1.1. (Not beeing able to install on a P5 with a NCR 810 is a petty) Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: ftp.debian.org problems
On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > We suggest you use the same mirror script we use, and set it so that if > more than 10% of files go away at once it won't delete them. Which one do you use? Where to get it? 10% seems reasonable. > We did have problems with debian.org - the system it was running on > was taken away, and we had to put a system we never intended to be > debian.org in its place. Our first priority now is to keep the mirror > systems updated. Good point! Thanks for your tremendous work, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: debian v1.1 probs
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: > As I understand it, there can not be two versions of the same package in > the same archive. Ok, how about the same solution Debian uses for gnu gs versa Alladin gs? Yours, martin
Re: installation notes
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > > Hmm, please do not shuffle that much. Think about the traffic you are > I'm well aware of the mirror traffic I cause with moving files. But > with the new organization I'm advocating, this won't be a problem for > future releases. We'll just have to suffer this once. Dear Guy, I really do understand your point. It was not the best to be forced to copy everything from unstable to buzz. It would have been a much smaller problem creating a new 1.2-unstable directory. So using links in order to point to the directories is the right way to go. It is not a big hit on mirrors to catch up with changing links. But please refrain from doing so before 1.1 hits the shelves! IMHO it is too late for this release. Do better for 1.2. A lot of people are waiting for 1.1 desperately. (Debian 1.1 will be the first distribution with Linux 2.0.0) Things will calm down 2 or 3 weeks after release. Then you can make your changes and nobody will moan. Please remember that there are places for whom it is really very hard to keep their mirrors in sync. Also ftp.debian.org will not be able to handle all this traffic. I just tried it myself today. Even with our 34MBit Internet connection I could not establish a stable ftp connection to ftp.debian.org. YOurs, martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: installation notes
On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > > I installed the new versions on Tuesday evening. The buzz directories > inadvertently broke Wednesday's script run. That's been fixed so > today's run (going on now) will produce a correct Packages file. What about releasing the script which produces the Packages files? > Expect quite a lot of shuffling on the ftp site in the next couple of > days. We're discussing a much better (heh - I suggested it) way of > organizing the ftp site. Everything will be done by this Monday. Hmm, please do not shuffle that much. Think about the traffic you are causing on the mirrors. Every mv on your side will cause a rm and a reget on the mirror sites. This will prevent the mirrors from keeping in sync and cause a lot of unneeded net traffic. So please do the rearrangement after 1.1 has been released! Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: installation notes
On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > >The Packages files not always up to date. This causes the dselect > > tool to think version X of a particular package is available from the > > ftp server, when in reality the package available is X+epsilon. This > I'll think about running the scripts by hand after I install. Pleas do so in the future. This is what the users and mirrors do expect. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: loss of routing info with 2.0.0
On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Rick Hawkins wrote: > > I have compiled the 2.0.0 kernel (successfully), but lost my routing > info in the process (coming from 1.3.95). "route" only shows the > machine itself. > > If i manually add the missing router & gateway, it works fine, but i > lose this on reboot. Please look at /etc/init.d/ probably some files did change within this directory. Look at the file dates and for backups within this directory. Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: big problems with installation
On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Bruce Perens wrote: > Yes, it's time for us to remove 0.93 from the FTP site. I'll think about > this for a while before I do it, though. I vote for not deleting it but for renaming to obsolete or old. We should not remove the last stable version before 1.1 is released and proven to be stable. What do you think? Yours, -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: big problems with installation
> > I do agree. You really should go for 1.1 beta. This version is supposed > > Then maybe the warning signs in the ftp sites should be updated? Back when > I went for Debian I saw lots of them lying around (and so I went to 0.93R6, > which indeed prooved less stable than "unstable"), as well as when I mirrored > unstable 1.1. > I also do agree here! 1.1 went to public beta a while ago. This should be mentioned on the mirror sites in an apropriate way. Yours, martin
Re: big problems with installation
> > Hello, > > I have an old AMD' 80386 40MHz with 4MB of RAM and I really like > > to install Linux on it. I spent some time looking around and > > then I decided to proceed with the Debian distribution. > > Got the five disks of the 0.93R6 version I started the installation > > but with no success at all. > > I disabled all the option for shadowing ROM and I deleted all > > the data on the HD (Conner CP30104 121MB) before to start. > > Then I ran the boot and root disks (created with dd ...). > > Why don't you try installing Debian 1.1 beta instead of 0.93R6? It's > located in the unstable directory of your friendly Debian mirror site. > but don't be misled by the 'unstable' name... 1.1 is now in late beta and > is quite stable now. And the installation process has been improved quite > a bit in 1.1. I do agree. You really should go for 1.1 beta. This version is supposed to work with only 4mb. There have been recent changes in the setup procedure to ensure that it is possible to install with 4mb. If it doesnt work than something is definetely broken (Even win95 can be installed on 4mb machines :-) Please tell the mailing list if you are succesful with 1.1 beta. (BTW: Wenn will 1.1 be released?) YOurs, martin
Re: 1.1 X setup default: bs/del don't work with motif apps.
On Thu, 9 May 1996, Yves Arrouye wrote: > The subject says it: none of these keys work with Motif apps on a > fresh installation. I'm sure some xmodmap commands (though I'm not > sure which ones, if you can help) would do the trick, but I wonder > what neither of them is usable by default? I did a ln -s /usr/X11R6 /usr/X386 in order to get the motif application netscape running. This way it will find the /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB for wihich netscape looks at /usr/X386/lib/X11/XKeysymDB May the debian team will include this symlink in the xbase package Yours -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.
Re: HP Jet Direct
Please look at my /etc/printcap. I do assign the IP to my printer via the panel on the printer. Mainly the HP LJ4 DeskJet knows about lpd. lp|lp2|lj|PS_600dpi-a4-auto-mono|PS_600dpi auto mono:\ :lp=:\ :sh:\ :rm=PrinterName:\ :sd=/usr/spool/PS_600dpi-a4-auto-mono:\ :lf=/usr/spool/PS_600dpi-a4-auto-mono/log:\ :af=/usr/spool/PS_600dpi-a4-auto-mono/acct:\ :mx#0: :sh: On Wed, 8 May 1996, Martin Rheumer wrote: > Tim, > > I have tried to ask this a long time ago and never really got any > answers. If you do, would you mind copying them onto me.. > > Many Thanks > Martin > > > On Tue, 7 May 1996, Tim 'Death before Decaf' Sailer wrote: > > > Has anyone set up a JetDirect printer up under Debian? If so, can you > > tell me *how* you got it working? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > -- > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >"What if there were no hypothetical situations?" > > ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my > > own.** > > > > -- martin // Martin Konold, Muenzgasse 7, 72070 Tuebingen, Germany // // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]// //http://www.schwaben.de/linux// Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $299. Posting without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms.