CD/DVD is obsolete or deprecate at 2025?
Good news everyone, Sorry that the question may have already been clarified earlier, but I am not a regular member of the user mailing list, so I ask it again. Every time I download the Debian image, I am faced with a moral disorder and philosophically go on a historical journey into the past, so that I can remember and dive deeply into memory during the times of using CDs. Today in my environment I can be faced with a CD only for scaring away birds or as an intricate amulet on teenagers’ backpacks as a reference to the era of their parents, but not for recording images. Let's say, is this my particular progressive experience, or do people still find the discs to be as functional as ever? More and more I see that people usually use USB flash drives everyday and some large companies (like Microsoft) today provide an image with a USB stick. Is there a chance to change in next versions i.e. Debain 13 or other versions an assembly specifically for a USB flash drive as primary download? Do you think the time has come? When do you think this moment will happen? Again, forgive me if I don’t know some of the important details and difficulties of booting modern PCs via UEFI or some other feature more conveniently solved in the CD/DVD format. Then just tell me about it, I'll read it. Thanks.
Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC
Dear all, Apologies but work interfered before I could get back to the EEE PC. Thank you all for the responses. Very helpful. On Friday, 5 Jan 2024 at 18:35, Hans wrote: > Also, very nice, you can create a multiboot sd card, and stuck it into > the netbook, so you can boot from it several usefull livesystems (I am > using XBOOT for this, but it is also working with YUMI or some others. On Friday, 5 Jan 2024 at 18:36, Hans wrote: > Am Freitag, 5. Januar 2024, 17:48:39 CET schrieb Eric S Fraga: > Me again: > > Second answer: You can easily install debian 32-bit from an USB-stick· > it is working just any other computer. This is great. Definitely the routes (USB and/or SD) forward for me. Thank you. Mind you, the bios indicates only removable storage is recognised at boot time so probably the SD card but I'll try USB as well. On Friday, 5 Jan 2024 at 17:36, Tom Furie wrote: > I'm currently running bookworm on an Atom based EeeBook (x205ta), it > has 2G RAM, and 30G storage. The only hurdle I've found is getting > internal sound to work (chtrt5645), though HDMI output is fine, I'm > sure I simply haven't found the right combination of switches to > flip. Having said that, I'm no expert on Linux audio. This is much more powerful than my EEE PC, both in memory and disk (see below). By almost an order of magnitude probably! On Friday, 5 Jan 2024 at 16:13, Charles Curley wrote: > > It might help if you gave us a bit more information. Indeed. Sorry. The model is the original EEE PC, the 2G Surf. ASUSTeK 700. 0.5 GB memory, 2 GB disk. Anyway, I will try one of the very small Linux distributions. My eventual aim is to install a recent version of Emacs that might be able to run in 512 MB (but probably not) as I want a portable orgmode system. Thank you all again, eric -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: what keyboard do you use?
I have two: a Kinesis Advantage 2 and a Corsair gaming mechanical keyboard, both USB connected. I use the latter almost exclusively and love it: the feel of the mechanical keys, the sound of those keys, and the keyboard lighting. I seldom use the Kinesis: just could not get used to it. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC
On Friday, 5 Jan 2024 at 19:42, Hans wrote: > All are running 1,666 GHz (except the very ealy ones, EEEPC 901, which is > running 1GHz. Mine is one of the early ones, in fact probably the first version released. Thank you for your other longer post: very helpful. I will find a suitable SD card in the mess that is my office and will try live booting different versions. I am not bothered about DE -- simple WM will do. I just want to run Emacs with org mode as a portable writing and agenda system. Thanks again, eric -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-06-19) on Debian 12.0
Installing Debian on an old Asus EEE PC
Hello, anybody here have any experience installing a recent(-ish) version of Debian on an Asus EEE PC? This is a small notebook sized laptop with Celeron cpu and little space & memory. I've just found one in one of my boxes and thought I'd see if I can make use of it. It's currently running with a 2.x kernel! I have found some bits and bobs on the Interweb but I thought I'd ask here in case somebody in this group/list has direct experience. Thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: problem with Jami
Thanks, i resolved it! Il giorno Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:49:16 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" ha scritto: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 05:36:42PM +0100, s...@gmx.com wrote: > > i try to install jami on Debian from apt..but i have this problem... > > > > > > jami-daemon : Dipende: libjsoncpp24 (>= 1.9.4) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libyaml-cpp0.6 (>= 0.6.2) ma non è > > installabile libqt-jami : Dipende: libavformat58 (>= 7:4.2) ma non > > è installabile Dipende: libicu67 (>= 67.1-1~) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libswscale5 (>= 7:4.0) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) ma non è installabile > > > > these dependencies cannot be resolved > > and cannot be installed > > it's a problem of Debian? > > what can I do? > > > > Exactly *what* errors do you get when you try to install - can you, > for example, install just libtiff5 in the version you want and work > from there (divide the problem)? > > Have you tried apt-get -f install jami ? > > With every good wish, as ever, > > Andy > > (amaca...@debian.org) >
Re: problem with Jami
yes, but it appeared on the shell "Unable to resolve problems, there are corrupted packages blocked." if I try to install a package.. it tells me there are no candidates to install Il giorno Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:49:16 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" ha scritto: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 05:36:42PM +0100, s...@gmx.com wrote: > > i try to install jami on Debian from apt..but i have this problem... > > > > > > jami-daemon : Dipende: libjsoncpp24 (>= 1.9.4) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libyaml-cpp0.6 (>= 0.6.2) ma non è > > installabile libqt-jami : Dipende: libavformat58 (>= 7:4.2) ma non > > è installabile Dipende: libicu67 (>= 67.1-1~) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libswscale5 (>= 7:4.0) ma non è installabile > > Dipende: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) ma non è installabile > > > > these dependencies cannot be resolved > > and cannot be installed > > it's a problem of Debian? > > what can I do? > > > > Exactly *what* errors do you get when you try to install - can you, > for example, install just libtiff5 in the version you want and work > from there (divide the problem)? > > Have you tried apt-get -f install jami ? > > With every good wish, as ever, > > Andy > > (amaca...@debian.org) >
problem with Jami
i try to install jami on Debian from apt..but i have this problem... jami-daemon : Dipende: libjsoncpp24 (>= 1.9.4) ma non è installabile Dipende: libyaml-cpp0.6 (>= 0.6.2) ma non è installabile libqt-jami : Dipende: libavformat58 (>= 7:4.2) ma non è installabile Dipende: libicu67 (>= 67.1-1~) ma non è installabile Dipende: libswscale5 (>= 7:4.0) ma non è installabile Dipende: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) ma non è installabile these dependencies cannot be resolved and cannot be installed it's a problem of Debian? what can I do?
Re: system not updating
It looks like the package is already at the latest version? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-06-19) on Debian 12.0
Re: Image handling in mutt
On Monday, 11 Dec 2023 at 07:32, Pocket wrote: > No it is microsoft non sense I'm not an MS fanboi but please stop blaming MS for something they did not invent! -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Urgent Latexhelp needed
On Sunday, 10 Dec 2023 at 18:22, y...@vienna.at wrote: > There is nothing like \mho 0r /mho or {\mho} anywhere in the text That may be but it was in the snippet of the error message you posted. Maybe post more context (e.g. line in your actual LaTeX where error occurs) and/or ask on a LaTeX list/group? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Urgent Latexhelp needed
Untested but shouldn't the \mho be within braces, {\mho}? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Image handling in mutt
On Friday, 8 Dec 2023 at 17:06, Pocket wrote: > In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft > invention. Predates MS by years. Systems like RSTS/E on PDP-11s, just to name one. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince
I use zathura which is also quite light but I'm not sure if you can print from it. I tend to print directly using lp although very infrequently in any case. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Work environment
To expand a little further on this: I also have a desktop with two large monitors and an excellent mechanical keyboard. Could not imagine doing real work on a laptop 100% of the time. A point not mentioned: I do have a large heavy duty 17" laptop I use for a number of specific tasks, primarily for showcasing a system to industry. The interesting issue is that the fan noise is much more annoying on the laptop, when asked to do significant computational work, than on the desktop. Not that the fan is necessarily louder but that its sound is different and, probably most importantly, is closer to me than the desktop which is hidden under the back of my desk. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.2
Re: Password managers
On Thursday, 9 Nov 2023 at 12:46, Todd Zullinger wrote: > You may like pass[1]. It's a bash script which uses gpg, so > it's somewhat familiar to what you've written in a sense. +1 *and* it has an Emacs interface which is very easy to use. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-06-19) on Debian 12.0
changing default pulse audio output destination
Hello all, On one of systems, I have three different possible output destinations for sound: USB headset, system speaker, HDMI speaker. By default, pulse audio (or whatever the tool is these days on Debian 12) sends output to the headset, not what I want. So I change the destination but, whenever my screensave blanks the screen, when I reawaken it the destination goes to the headset again. I assume this is because the HDMI port goes to sleep or disappears? Is there any easy way to tell pulseaudio/pipewire/? to automatically route to the HDMI when the screen awakes and the HDMI is available again? Thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-09-14) on Debian 12.1
Re: Does anyone own and use a Kindle Scribe?
On Tuesday, 3 Oct 2023 at 08:32, Sharon Kimble wrote: > Yes, calibre is very good, and I've at last managed to get it to > acknowledge the kindle scribe, but only by deleting most of the mtp > programs that I'd been installing to try and get the scribe and my > computer communicating with each [...] > QMessageBox, QLabel, > ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'PyQt4' > Device 0 (VID=1949 and PID=9981) is UNKNOWN in libmtp v1.1.20. > Please report this VID/PID and the device model to the libmtp > development team It looks like there's still some mtp stuff potentially causing problems? How did you install calibre? From the website directly or via apt? Depending on the version of Debian you are using, the calibre from apt may be more than good enough. The version on Debian 12 (Buster? Bullseye? I cannot remember) is quite recent. Alternatively, you could post on the mobilread.com forum devoted to all things calibre: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166 It's a very helpful community, I have found. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-06-19) on Debian 12.0
Re: Does anyone own and use a Kindle Scribe?
On Sunday, 1 Oct 2023 at 15:25, Joe wrote: > Calibre converts/creates ebooks and is generally a useful accessory for > a Kindle or other hardware reader. No, I'm not on commission. +1 for calibre! I use it for managing my Kobo devices. Works very well. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-07-11) on Debian bullseye/sid
Sunrise and Sunset from terminal
Is there a way to get sunrise and sunset time from command interpreter? I want to use its output for a script!
problem with sway package
i have tried installing sway package in debian bookworm but it was not displaying any thing and also the terminal was getting stuck in the login page it self when i tried to run sway in the default terminal. i have tried this in virtual machine several time still the issues remians same , please try to look into this and i have to say that i am trying to install sway package in my custom debian - bookworm
Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 09:49:14AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > There's no point debating any further. S M has a unique desire, which > is not shared by any other person I've ever heard of, and they're going > to do what they want. I didn't mean this to be a discussion about my particular wants or needs (As I said, I have that sorted out already). I was just raising a question about the reasons for this change as it removes a theoretically harmless option that was there before.
Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works
On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 02:12:14PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Is command-line editing part of POSIX, then? Are you suggesting that dash is > missing some bit of POSIX compliance? That's possible. Command-line editing in vi-mode is defined by POSIX, but it's not mandatory as far as I know.
Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 08:00:51PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 05:45:04PM -0500, S M wrote: > > Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh > > pointing to bash and chsh to that. > > Why? Why not simply chsh to /bin/bash if that's what you want as your > interactive shell? > > Are you somehow relying on bash's disabling of certain features when > invoked as "sh", in interactive mode? I don't understand that at all. > Yes. POSIX-compliance is a feature to me. I'd actually be fine with using dash itself but the lack of command line editing and filename completion is a deal-breaker to me.
Re: "dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works
On Fri, Jun 09, 2023 at 04:07:03PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Nothing you wrote here is incorrect, but none of it explains the policy > change that has occurred. I won't even say it's a bad policy change. > It makes at least a little bit of sense... Yeah, I'd also like to know what was the reason to change this. Regarding a workaround, I ended up creating a symlink /usr/local/bin/sh pointing to bash and chsh to that. But, the way I see it, any portable POSIX-compliant script should be able to run in both dash and bash. If a script runs with dash but not bash, it means one of three things: 1 The script is not portable to begin with. (the script has a bug or the wrong shebang) 2 The script is interpreted incorrectly by bash but not dash. (bash has a bug) 3 The script is portable but it's interpreted incorrectly by dash, and this wrong behavior is what the scriptwriter wants. (dash has a bug) So it seems to me that this change will only end up sweeping bugs under the rug. Which I guess is not that bad of a thing as long as the system works, but I digress. In any case, all three can be fixed by changing the shebang to #!/bin/dash without much additional work. So I'm just curious about what was the reason behind taking away this choice from the user.
"dpkg-reconfigure" dash no longer works
Good day. I noticed on a newly installed system with Debian 12 that dpkg-reconfigure no longer allows to switch the /bin/sh symlink from dash to bash. This is apparently intentional as per the following: https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/dash/0.5.11+git20210903+057cd650a4ed-4 I couldn't find any additional context or rationale. I would like to know if this is going to be a permanent change. Debian currently disables command line editing in dash builds, so that makes it unusable as an interactive shell. Thank you very much for everything.
Re: nvidia package 340xx
On 5/20/23 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. (Nouveaux is no good to me). I am using the "nvidia-tesla-450-driver" on Debian 12 bookworm. You need to install the linux-headers package that matches your kernel version in order for the nvidia driver to build into the kernel. For Bullseye amd64, I think this would be "linux-headers-5.10.0-22-amd64". For Bookworm, it is "linux-headers-6.1.0-9-amd64". If a point release of stable ships with a different kernel version, I learned that I needed to install the headers package that matched, or the driver would build for the old kernel. Regards, Marlin
Re: nvidia package 340xx
On 5/20/23 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. (Nouveaux is no good to me). I am using the "nvidia-tesla-450-driver" on Debian 12 bookworm. You need to install the linux-headers package that matches your kernel version in order for the nvidia driver to build into the kernel. For Bullseye amd64, I think this would be "linux-headers-5.10.0-22-amd64". For Bookworm, it is "linux-headers-6.1.0-9-amd64". If a point release of stable ships with a different kernel version, I learned that I needed to install the headers package that matched, or the driver would build for the old kernel. -- Regards, Marlin
Re: Second monitor doesn't quite work
On Thursday, 20 Apr 2023 at 14:34, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > In my case, an empty xorg.conf doesn't work with my 3-monitor setup. > The issue is that the Nvidia driver (contrary to nouveau?) doesn't > work with 3 monitors, so one of them cannot be used, but when the > X server is restarted (e.g. when I log out), the Nvidia driver is > confused about which monitor to use. Interesting. I've had a look at my Xorg.log file and I'm using the nvidia driver and it is finding all three monitors. My graphics card is :65:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P1000] (rev a1) -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-04-18) on Debian 11.5
Re: Second monitor doesn't quite work
On Wednesday, 19 Apr 2023 at 23:34, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Any idea why the second monitor is sort of there but not quite? Below is >> a copy of the xorg.conf generated by the Nvidia setup utility. > > I have no experience with multi-monitor setups on nVidia, but the last > time I used a non-empty `xorg.conf` was many years ago, so I suggest > you try to just remove the config file generated by `nvidia-settings`. I second this. I have three monitors on my system, with two graphics cards, and have no xorg.conf file. One of the graphics cards is an nvidia (cannot remember which model, however). xrandr finds all monitors successfully. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-04-18) on Debian 11.6
Re: Virtual machine affects client screen resolution
My thanks to David Wright and Max Nikulin. That was a good wake-up call. Most of my VMs are safe, but it was interesting to learn what was really going on. ForwardX11 was enabled for the ssh session. Initially I imagined vncviewer (to the KVM host though ssh) was the one causing the problem, but now it is clear that the ssh session to the VM was responsible for it. This was the result of checking open tcp ports on the VM: $ netstat -nlt Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State ... tcp0 0 127.0.0.53:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:6010 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN $ echo $DISPLAY localhost:10.0 It was also a good opportunity to learn about XPRA and test it. Albert On 2/17/23 22:15, David Wright wrote: On Fri 17 Feb 2023 at 20:57:38 (-0500), Albert S. wrote: Running “xrandr --size 800x600” on a virtual machine affected both monitors on my workstation. That was completely unexpected and I am wondering how to explain that. Below you will find the detailed description. [ … ] But my real concern is how a xrandr command issued on a VM which is running on another machine could affect the video of the client machine used to access that VM. I would appreciate an explanation for that. The clue is in your use of the word "client". In fact, the "video of the machine used to access that VM" is the X /server/. The applications that you control on this machine, and others that you connect to, which you thought were servers, are in fact the clients. So, for example, I'm sitting at my All-in-One, running an X server as usual. In a room down the hall, I have a laptop that's booted up, but hasn't been used yet. It's sitting at a VC prompt waiting for someone to log in. There's no X server running on it. I've connected to the laptop with ssh from an xterm here on my A-i-O, and typed into the /laptop/: $ xrandr --output eDP --rotate right and immediately, my screen blanks, comes back a second later, and everything is sideways. When I type: $ xrandr --output eDP --rotate normal then normality is restored. So I ran xrandr on the laptop, but xrandr is not concerned with that machine, but only with the X /server/, running on my A-i-O. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System Cheers, David.
Virtual machine affects client screen resolution
Running “xrandr --size 800x600” on a virtual machine affected both monitors on my workstation. That was completely unexpected and I am wondering how to explain that. Below you will find the detailed description. I run KVM on a Debian 11 server, which has no monitor or keyboard attached to it. One of the VMs running on that server is a Ubuntu desktop 22.04 LTS (I needed the desktop version due to the application I was running there). From another machine (a workstation running Debian 11, xfce) with two monitors I access the Ubuntu VM when I need to. I use ssh to the server to establish a ssh tunnel, and then access the Ubuntu machine with the command “/usr/lib/ssvnc/vncviewer localhost:5906 &”. A couple of weeks ago I decided to increase the Ubuntu VM resolution to 1600x1200 to make my work easier, and that initially worked. However, today, after a reboot of the Debian server and all VMs, I noticed that the Ubuntu screen (through VNC) would still have the resolution of 1600x1200 when displayed on my workstation, but it would display as black on the top and gray on the bottom, without any image. The VM console was dead. However, I could still access the VM through ssh. So, I started trying different commands to fix the problem. One of the commands I issued on the VM (through ssh) was “xrandr –size 800x600”. When I issued the xrandr command, one display on my workstation turned off, and the other one went to 800x600 resolution. That was completely unexpected. I am asking myself how can a command issued on a VM which is running on a different machine affect the screen resolution of the workstation used to access that VM. Just to be clear, I was accessing that VM both through ssh and through vncviewer (still back and gray screen image) when that happened. If you think I issued the xrandr command on the wrong machine, that was not the case: history makes it clear. Just to be complete, the solution to the video problem was to make a change on the KVM xml file, from video type=vga to type=virtio. But my real concern is how a xrandr command issued on a VM which is running on another machine could affect the video of the client machine used to access that VM. I would appreciate an explanation for that. Thanks, Albert
Re: Debian release criteria.
On Tuesday, 3 Jan 2023 at 13:36, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > A few years ago a USB camera worked with Cheese, a bridge interface > worked as documented and Firefox was fairly stable. > > Now Cheese cashes immediately upon startup. > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=562765 According to that bug report, the problem is on sid. This is not surprising? If you want stability, stick to stable releases? cheese works perfectly for me and has done so for a very long time. I cannot comment on qemu. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-01-02) on Debian 11.5
Re: request a replacement for Thunderbird + Enigmail
On Tuesday, 3 Jan 2023 at 21:27, Michel Verdier wrote: > I use Gnus (on emacs). I fetch mails with pop3s from different providers, > send mails to corresponding smtp servers based on sending address (could > be different criteria). I use nnml backend which store 1 mail per file, > so no big database, best perf, easy backup and no mail losses. Gnus use > standard gpg for encryption. I use swish for indexing and searching mails. Pretty much the same for me except for notmuch instead of swish for indexing/searching. Works very well in all respects including gpg. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2023-01-02) on Debian 11.5
Re: Dell Precision 3570 - Debian instead of Ubuntu
I'm in a similar position for a Dell workstation at work. I decided to keep it as it came, with ubuntu 20.04. Some annoying niggles/differences compared with Debian which I use on all of my other systems but as this system acts as a server mostly, they are not particularly worrying. It's annoying that it has just the one big partition and I belatedly realised I should have repartitioned to have a separate root and home before copying over all of my (home) files. Easily fixed in due course. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 30.0.50 2022-12-02) on Debian 11.5
Re: Gnus/procmail doesn't read new mails
Just in case, what happens if you expand "~" in the path to PROCMAIL? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-11-10) on Debian 11.4
Re: which gui text editor support correct rendering of multiple languages
emacs? -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-11-01) on Debian 11.4
Re: digikam import fails
On Friday, 17 Jun 2022 at 21:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I can chose that in my camera's menu (memory, MTP, auto, something else > I forgot). I chose memory and "download" the stuff with rsync. Works a > charm. I can choose the USB connection properties/protocol on my day to day camera (aka phone) but not on my actual camera that is not a phone. So it's "eject card; plug into computer; ..." for me. For the phone, I don't bother about cables and instead use scp to transfer photos from it to my computer over the network (running sshd on the phone)... but that's another story. > Oh, I have no DE, so I mount the cam explicitly. I don't like things > auto-mounting. But I'm weird :) I guess I'm weird as well then... ;-) -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-06-17) on Debian 11.3
Re: digikam import fails
On Thursday, 16 Jun 2022 at 21:27, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > I must be missing something here... > > When I plug in my camera to a US port, it shows up on the desktop, at > which point I can mount it. Then I can access it and copy/move stuff > to wherever, using mc or whatever utility you like. Why is some > special program needed for this? Unfortunately because many cameras do not implement USB file store access, only MTP (media transfer protocol?). If they provide file store access, life is simple. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-06-12) on Debian 11.3
Re: which X11 app can show wifi info
On Friday, 10 Jun 2022 at 06:33, a wrote: > nm-applet seems to be part of gnome I guess it does; I never checked as it runs fine with stumpwm but I probably have gnome dependencies installed. Sorry for the noise. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-06-07) on Debian 11.3
Re: which X11 app can show wifi info
On Friday, 10 Jun 2022 at 08:05, lou wrote: > i want a small app that show wifi info, including connected network > name (wpa-ssid) nm-applet works for me. It doesn't show the network explicitly unless you hover the mouse over the little icon so I don't know if this would suit your needs. -- Eric S Fraga via gnus (Emacs 29.0.50 2022-06-07) on Debian 11.3
Re: Why does this take so much time?
On Friday, 22 Apr 2022 at 19:37, Charles Curley wrote: > I was in a position to help, so I did. I have not so far heard back > from Steve whether he has found a solution. Just to add a data point, probably mostly for the benefit of the OP: I use Signal and have the same source in my list for apt and have no problems at all. I've noticed no delay for that server. Just tried updating right now and the response was immediate. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.3 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.3
how to register a system service
Hello Given I have a program, I want to make it start/stop as the normal system service such as postfix. How can I setup this? thank you.
/var/log/journal/ size question
The dir /var/log/journal/ on my debian host increases quite quickly. why this happens? Do you know how to suppress it? Thanks.
Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story
On Tuesday, 8 Mar 2022 at 22:47, Richmond wrote: > Now that I have it working I fear to change it. And this is exactly my modus operandum. Once I get a system to a stable productive working state, I leave it alone (except for security issues). -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: Google smtp and pop
On Sunday, 6 Mar 2022 at 15:41, Brian wrote: > I came across Disroot (disroot.org) the other day. Looks interesting > and worth considering. I've been using disroot for some time now for personal email (work is Exchange unfortunately with 2FA which I access by using davmail). Disroot works very well for me and comes with nextcloud as well which is useful. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: Google smtp and pop
On Friday, 4 Mar 2022 at 10:59, Marc Auslander wrote: > So what suggestions does anyone have for dealing with OAUTH2 access to > gmail? I'm using davmail [http://davmail.sourceforge.net/] for this with Outlook exchange servers as the one I have to use has also moved to oauth2 access only. I switched sometime last year (not exactly a great time to make it difficult to connect, in the middle of a pandemic, working from home... :-() and it has been working perfectly ever since. It means changing your email server setting to be localhost in whatever tool you use to read emails (I use gnus in Emacs) and davmail sends on requests to the actual server. Instructions, at least for Outlook, on the website. Not sure about gmail, mind you. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: Which flavour for a 2GB RAM laptop?
On Friday, 4 Mar 2022 at 05:56, Peter Ehlert wrote: > xfce: 774 MIB ram used .. 4 GIB / space used > mate: 719 MIB ram used .. 6 GIB / space used > mate*: 722 MIB ram used .. 6 GIB / space used stumpwm: 86 MB, 1.3 GB ;-) -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop
On Saturday, 15 Jan 2022 at 17:17, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > I wouldn't use a Dell or HP I don't have a choice due to tendering processes where I work. In any case, I recently acquired a new Dell laptop (Latitude 7320) and it both works very well with Debian and is actually a very nice laptop, especially the matt screen (which doesn't have touch, a plus in my mind). Just my 2¢. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: Debian installation doesn't see my network
On Saturday, 8 Jan 2022 at 20:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If you can bear it: reinstall, using the unofficial image, including > non-free firmware. I had to do this for a recently purchased Dell laptop with Intel NIC on-board. Worked just fine this way but wouldn't install without the non-free firmware as it couldn't find the network. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: Thunderbird not allowing local accounts
On Wednesday, 5 Jan 2022 at 11:26, Charles Curley wrote: > Or, if you want to stick with your investment in Thunderbird, use > dovecot to set up a local imap server. dovecot is also quite useful for letting those MUAs that do not support oauth2 access services which require it. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Solved! Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
Success! I copied the default.pa file into my local .config and uncommented the line: load-module module-alsa-sink Initially, I tried adding device= options to this line (as the manual suggests) but I could not get the right incantation. Without it, PA found the device just fine as a possible sink although, funnily enough, it does not appear in the configuration tab of pavucontrol... I did leave the udev module, as Didier suggested. I did have to use alsamixer to adjust the volume (to the maximum, letting PA then have control up to that maximum). Thank you all for the help in solving this mystery. I remain wondering why it stopped working last year... but it's good to have some mystery left. ;-) eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Friday, 31 Dec 2021 at 11:21, didier gaumet wrote: > It seems to me that Alsa recognizes 3 audio cards (Intel, webcam, > Nvidia) while Pulseaudio recognizes 2 audio cards only (webcam, Nvidia) Yes, that's my impression as well. > but starts enumerating sinks at Sink#12 Is this important/relevant? I know nothing about how PA enumerates sinks or sources. > I would then say that for whatever reason Pulseaudio does not register > your Intel audio card by udev detection and it could be useful to > declare it manually to Pulseaudio by creating > ~/.config/pulse/default.pa rather than editing /etc/pulse/default.pa . Okay, I will give this a try. Thank you. Should I leave the udev auto-detection in there as well? -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Thursday, 30 Dec 2021 at 20:59, didier gaumet wrote: > *perhaps* a extensive Pulseaudio report would give a clue > Please run pa-info as a user (not as root) and paste the result here. Hi Didier, Please find the output from pa-info attached. Also attached is the output from alsa-info, just in case. > Hypothetical explanations to the problem could be: > > - packages half-installed, half-configured or obsolete/local, As this is an old system, it's gone through quite a few Debian releases etc. so there are indeed half-configured packages lying around. I'll spend some time cleaning these up but none seems relevant to the problem at first glance. The dpkg audit highlighted nothing and neither did the firmware diagnostic. Thanks again, eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.2 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2 upload=true&script=true&cardinfo= !! !!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.65 !! !!Script ran on: Thu Dec 30 23:27:57 UTC 2021 !!Linux Distribution !!-- Debian GNU/Linux 11 \n \l PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" ID=debian HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"; SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"; BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"; !!DMI Information !!--- Manufacturer: Dell Inc. Product Name: Precision T3610 Product Version: 01 Firmware Version: A08 System SKU:Precision T3610 Board Vendor: Dell Inc. Board Name:09M8Y8 !!ACPI Device Status Information !!--- /sys/bus/acpi/devices/ACPI0004:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/INT3F0D:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:01/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:02/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:03/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:04/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:05/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:06/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/LNXCPU:07/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0103:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0501:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0A03:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0A08:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C01:01/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C02:00/status 15 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0C:00/status 11 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:00/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:01/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:02/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:03/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:04/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:05/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:06/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C0F:07/status 9 /sys/bus/acpi/devices/PNP0C14:00/status 15 !!Kernel Information !!-- Kernel release:5.10.0-10-amd64 Operating System: GNU/Linux Architecture: x86_64 Processor: unknown SMP Enabled: Yes !!ALSA Version !! Driver version: k5.10.0-10-amd64 Library version:1.2.4 Utilities version: 1.2.4 !!Loaded ALSA modules !!--- snd_hda_intel snd_usb_audio snd_hda_intel !!Sound Servers on this system !! Pulseaudio: Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) Running - Yes !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA !!- 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb22 irq 45 1 [webcam ]: USB-Audio - Full HD webcam Sunplus IT Co Full HD webcam at usb-:05:00.0-3.3, high speed 2 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfb08 irq 44 !!PCI Soundcards installed in the system !!-- 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1d20] (rev 06) Subsystem: Dell C600/X79 series chipset High Definition Audio Controller [1028:05d2] 02:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e1b] (rev a1) Subsystem: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:094b] !!Modprobe options (Sound related) !! snd_pcsp: index=-2 snd_usb_audio: index=-2 snd_atiixp_modem: index=-2 snd_intel8x0m: index=-2 snd_via82xx_modem: index=-2 !!Loaded sound module options !!--- !!Module: snd_hda_intel align_buffer_size : -1 bdl_pos_adj : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1 beep_mode : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y dmic_detect : Y enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y e
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Thursday, 30 Dec 2021 at 14:14, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > By the way, you can try PipeWire as well. Thank you for the heads up on this. It's too early in the Debian release cycle for me to switch to testing from the current stable release (I often do end up switching, after a few months typically) and so have made a note of this to try then. The link you gave is very helpful. Thanks again, eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Thursday, 30 Dec 2021 at 13:16, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > Try to run (as root) > > # alsactl init > > and restart the computer. Thank you. Tried this. No difference unfortunately. As an aside, is it necessary to restart the computer? My system is typically up 24/7 so I hate rebooting. I did do it this time but just wondering. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Thursday, 30 Dec 2021 at 10:23, didier gaumet wrote: > Sorry to insist, but do you mean that the configuration tab only > *lists* HDMI even if you click on the HDMI profile? > Or that this tab only *shows* the (HDMI) by-default profile if you do > not click on it, so not *listing* anything? Hello Didier, No problem in insisting. Part of my problem is not knowing how to frame my question and give the right background information so any prompting is welcome! Please see image attached, showing what I see in the configuration tab of pavucontrol. I cannot capture the image of the popup menu that appears when I click on the Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output profile but all it lists are Digital (Stereo or Surround) HDMI outputs, all but one not available. On other systems, there are other entries in the configuration tab which is what I would expect here as well. My fundamental question is why does the on-board sound card not appear for this system? All of my sound configurations are defaults, IIRC. >>From what I understand, but I am not sure I understand correctly, > Pulseaudio won't use devices already used by Alsa. So, for example, if > you have a media software setup that declares to use alsa instead of > Pulseaudio, while you use that software, Pulseaudio cannot access the > devices used by Alsa (not sure of that). I do not (consciously) have any software set up to use alsa. I have only mentioned alsa for two reasons: on previous threads in this newsgroup, alsamixer is mentioned as a means of diagnosing sound issues and because alsamixer does show all the devices/channels. Having said this, all the audio/vidoe software I use (emms in Emacs via vlc, Firefox, Skype, Teams, Zoom, ...) go through pulseaudio and appear in the pavucontrol Playback tab when in use. > If your (media softwares and Alsa) setup does not prevent the use of > Pulseaudio, I would imagine that you simply have to switch the profile > in the configuration tab (between "HDMI" and something roughly called > "Stereo Analog Duplex" or something like that) Yes, this is what I have had in the past but the alternatives disappeared some time ago now (sometime halfway through 2020, I think). I've resisted trying to sort this out while I have had to depend on sound working, at least to some degree, while I had online meeting and teaching requirements. Now I have a short break from these so I am trying to solve the problem, but it's not a mission critical problem! > As a side note, in a terminal you will obtain a full blown report on > Pulseaudio with the pa-info or pactl list something commands (cf > respective manpages) Yes, these exist and I can generate full reports. I just do not know what to look for. Any pointers would be welcome and I would be happy to send the output of these to this group. My pulseaudio settings are as they come "out of the box" including, for instance, the use of module-udev-detect instead of explicitly using any of the alsa modules. > Another way of doing things would be to split (simultaneous playing) > the audio output between your monitor speakers (Nvidia, HDMI) and your > headphones (Intel analogic card, mini-jack). The Pulseaudio doc gives > some hints there: Thank you for the link. I will read that FAQ in case I can find something to help. I am not sure combining outputs is what I want but maybe that's what I need to do. I'll play around. Thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
On Wednesday, 29 Dec 2021 at 20:39, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > When PulseAudio Volume Control (pavucontrol) is started can you see > audio devices on "Configuration" tab? Hi Georgi, no, that's the problem. The configuration tab only shows the HDMI audio device. > In PulseAudio Volume Control application (Playback tab) you can see all > audio streams and applications being played and in case of multiple > sound devices you can set each sound stream to which sound device to be > played. Yes, understood; unfortunately only the single output is available, either here or in the configuration tab. The list of modules itemised via pavucontrol includes alsa so I am not sure why I cannot see the devices that alsa knows about. It's a mystery (to me, at least). thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
pulseaudio only finds one sink but alsa shows all
Dear all, I'm on Debian 11.2, pretty much up to date. I have a mystery with sound that I cannot resolve. I have according to lspci the following audio devices: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1d20] (rev 06) 02:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e1b] (rev a1) Pulseaudio only finds the second of these (speakers in an attached HDMI monitor) which is fine for much of my use. However, it means that I cannot use headphones plugged in to the box. Alsa lists all the devices: $ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC3220 Analog [ALC3220 Analog] card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] card 2: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2] but pulseaudio only shows the HDMI interface. Any hints on getting pulseaudio to find the Intel device would be welcome. Thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.2
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
On Tuesday, 14 Dec 2021 at 09:14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > If at all possible, that system would benefit greatly from moving the > system to an SSD. I do have one system with an SSD and these drives do have an incredible positive performance impact. With respect to the system I have been referring in this thread, I'm sure replacing the drives with an SSD would help the system but this would cost money and, more to the point, this system is scheduled to be replaced in the near future by a much newer (albeit not new: 4-5 years old) system. If it were a big issue for me, then the cost could be worth it, of course, but it's not really. I only posted earlier in the thread as a data point on what things can slow desktop environments down. Thank you for your suggestions! -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.1
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
On Friday, 10 Dec 2021 at 12:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > I've seen some hints on the web that slow storage can also have an > impact, something to do with periodic flushing of some sqlite database > to persistent storage. This is indeed a very likely explanation. The disk drives on this system are definitely on the slow side. I could upgrade but killing firefox periodically is an easier (and cheaper 😉) solution for me! 🙂 -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.1
Re: Firefox ESR EOL
On Thursday, 9 Dec 2021 at 20:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Too many comments there are just Debian-bashing with no real understanding. Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! Thank you all. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5.1 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.0
Re: Non-working CPU cores showing up
On Tuesday, 30 Nov 2021 at 02:30, Paul M. Foster wrote: > But there are outputs for each of eight cores, numbered 0 through 7. You will find that these entries are allocated to 4 cores (look at core id for each entry). This is due to hyper-threading which essentially provides two virtual processors for each core. -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.1
Re: [semi-OT] create playlist for android
On Friday, 12 Nov 2021 at 14:56, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi folks and sorry for this semi-OT > > Normally I use this command line to create a playlist for my android > phone (more specific I use jetaudio app) > > ls -1 > playlist_name.mp3 I do something similar. I don't use jetaudio (rocketplayer instead) but I name my playlists with an .m3u extension. Maybe try that? -- Eric S Fraga with org 9.5 in Emacs 29.0.50 on Debian 11.1
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
On Monday, 1 Nov 2021 at 14:53, piorunz wrote: > Glad I could help you move to (hopefully) right direction. Thank you for all the suggestions. My solution is straightforward: I open Firefox when I need it (usually these days only for banking, using eww in Emacs for most everything else web related... ;-)) and then close it immediately. No performance issues then! -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
On Monday, 1 Nov 2021 at 10:38, piorunz wrote: > Sorry if you felt offended. Not offended! :-) > No single application should slow down entire system with 32GB of RAM, 2 Agreed, it shouldn't. But my experience is that it does. Why? I don't know. Your comment about the GPU driver is helpful as I probably don't have the optimum graphics card settings (I do very little graphical work: mostly text in Emacs all day long...). I have an nvidia graphics card and my experience with nvidia has never been positive, to be fair. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
On Sunday, 31 Oct 2021 at 09:17, piorunz wrote: > Nah. Problem is your computer, not Firefox. Rather dismissive? Everything else on this "slow" computer (yes, it's old but has 4 dual-core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v2 @ 3.70GHz processors and 32 GB RAM) works just fine otherwise. Drive and memory all test fine. Only Firefox causes me problems if I let it run for a long time. My system is up 24/7. YMMV, of course, and that's great for you. But don't dismiss other people's experiences so out of hand please. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: LXQT desktop environment hangs?
My experience is that Firefox, if you open too many tabs and especially some of the very javascript heavy ones, gets bogged down quite severely and requires restarting. It can slow the whole system down in my experience. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: [OT, deeply] Guix
On Monday, 25 Oct 2021 at 20:43, riveravaldez wrote: > I stumble upon this article about (supposedly) Guix's > characteristics/advantages: The author loses me at the point where the article discusses programming languages and cites, amongst others, Octave and LaTeX as re-inventing the wheel and being /too-limiting/, implying that LISP is the only way to go (and I like LISP). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: openssh server remote access
On Friday, 22 Oct 2021 at 09:46, David Wright wrote: > I'm guessing it was a BT Home Hub. EE *before* bought by BT but maybe same supplier even then. > One might suspect that 100 lies at the lower boundary of its DHCP > range, leaving 99 static addresses free. But no guess at a product. I cannot remember any longer which one supplied this one. Might have been Tiscali? And, yes, leaving 99 static addresses free might be a reason. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: openssh server remote access
On Friday, 22 Oct 2021 at 13:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Typically modems and home routers use the .1 address for themselves. Interesting. My last 2 routers have had *.254 (!) and *.100 as their address. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.1
Re: Then it happened to me...
On Sunday, 10 Oct 2021 at 16:53, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > I was using online fora on the U of Illinois' Plato system in 1977. Blast from that past that! I remember playing with the air flight simulator with people connected across the continent. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.0
Re: Then it happened to me...
On Sunday, 10 Oct 2021 at 06:37, Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE wrote: > Usenet anybody? Just one newsreader to rule them all, killfile etc ... +1 I hate all those different fora. End up not engaging; too much friction, too little time. Same applies to re-invented technologies such as slack etc. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.0
Re: What do we have that will save a manpage as we see it on-screen
On Saturday, 2 Oct 2021 at 15:39, Brian wrote: > BTW, I do not think gv accepts an output piped to it. Well, it does on my Debian system. YMMV, of course. I did try the command before posting. ;-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.0
Re: What do we have that will save a manpage as we see it on-screen
On Saturday, 2 Oct 2021 at 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > This appears to produce a Postscript stream. Yes; I was basing my post on the specified need for "dead wood" output. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.60 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.0
Re: What do we have that will save a manpage as we see it on-screen
man pages are written in troff/nroff (which can be compiled using groff) using the man style. You can do the following, for instance: gunzip -c /usr/share/man/man1/chmod.1.gz | groff -man | lp (or replace "lp" with "gv -" to see on screen). Replace chmod with specific command and note that there is a different folder for each section of the Unix manual, man1 being for commands, man2 for system libraries, ... troff is how us old-timers used to write before LaTeX took over. I did my PhD in troff many moon ago on BSD Unix and then SunOS. Testament to the quality of the software: I can still generate a PDF of my thesis now after more than 30 years since I wrote it. Try that in Word... ;-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.5 on Debian 11.0
Re: Interesting News.
Thank you for posting this. Interesting article. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.6 on Debian 11.0
Debian Wiki down
Hello alltogether, the Debian Wiki seems to be down, and I do not know where and how to send a bug report to. If I go to any side below https://wiki.debian.org/, I only get the following message: Forbidden You are not allowed to access this! Greetings Sven
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 08:24, Jonathan Siegle wrote: > This is working for me on Debian Buster: > http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/compfac/faq/davmail.html Thank you for this. I have spent the past 2 days on this and have finally got davmail working for me. Some issues with versions of firefox (and Thunderbird as this was my test vehicle) but got there eventually. Now have gnus reading email via davmail although hanging after downloading the emails. I've posted on the gnus mailing list about this aspect. Thanks again, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.6 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 21:09, deloptes wrote: > The admin says "F**k off" :D Yep, that's pretty much what's happened (so far... I'm pushing). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.6 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: Restoring sticky bits after accidentally moving /usr directory
>> are not working because the sticky bits for many files /usr/bin/* were lost. >> For example, I can't send email with exim because of this error: >> >> Failed to create spool file /var/spool/exim4//input//1lj87g-0002tS-5J-D: >> Permission denied > > I'm guessing you actually mean setuid/setgid bit, not sticky bit. Sorry yeah. Setuid/gid. > >> Is there an easy way to ensure I set all the permissions back to where they >> were before I move /usr? > > I can't think of an easy way if you don't have backups. If you have > another system you could get a list of all its permissions like so: > > # find /usr -xdev -printf '%p %m\0' | sort -z > good-perms > > Then on your suspect machine: > > # find /usr -xdev -printf '%p %m\0' | sort -z > suspect-perms > > And then run this perl script: > >https://gist.github.com/grifferz/1c478ea5eb789b2a1d1a3e49d2a9345c > > The "find" and the "sort" are using NULL-separated strings so that > your filenames can contain newlines. Although I don't expect you > have any such paths under /usr. > > The perl script will print out a chmod for any differences, it will > tell you about paths you have which your "good" host does not, and > it will say nothing about paths that match permissions both sides. > It doesn't actually do anything, it just prints suggested chmod > actions. You maybe want to capture the output to a file. Yes, comparing it to a known good install was something I contemplated but I wasn’t relishing the thought of actually doing it. This will definitely help ease the pain. Thanks! > > If you don't have another working system, well, perhaps you can tell > us which Debian release this is and someone can provide a list of > paths and permissions from their machine. > > Good luck! > > Cheers, > Andy > > -- > https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting >
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Monday, 3 May 2021 at 11:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Get a computer monitor instead. In ten years most (if not all) > traditional TV stations will likely have switched to streaming via the > internet anyway ;) When I went to order a 60" monitor for a meeting room at work, I found that the equivalent TV (same screen/hardware as the monitor but with a tuner) was half the price. We bought the TV. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 16:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Judging by your mail address, you are in academia. This is doubly sad. My experience is that academic institutions are no different than any other organization in these regards. For better or for worse. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 15:16, Erwan David wrote: > You can define "application password" in O365 for this case (at least > I can at work, may depends on the settings of your tenant) Yes, thank you. Somebody else has also pointed out this option. I will be looking into it as it seems like it will work. Or I will switch to davmail. Solutions do seem to exist! -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: >> 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart") > > You know those can be (and have been) hi-jacked, don't you? Yeah. :-( What really gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole situation. I've been pushing to have people use public key encryption but they insist on sending emails with confidential information in plain text. Oh, "MFA will make everything secure"... > I'm not very much into conspiracy theories, but here, I'm convinced that > the "big players" want to downright kill mail because there's no way > for them to monetise it. Everybody needs to be in those walled gardens: Facebook, et al. :-( sigh. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03, Darac Marjal wrote: > Ask your administrator to enable "Per Application Passwords" - Thank you. I've looked at this and it looks feasible (if they enable this which is unfortunately not very likely but still worth asking). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I'm sure there are people within that department who would outlaw all > non-Windows desktops, if they could, because they don't control > them. I've been fighting this for 25+ years at my institution, using Linux throughout. They've given up but the challenges continue: you must use Outlook, Word, ... And now we have to use SharePoint and Teams and all these tools don't even talk to each other properly even though they come from the same vendor. What a joke. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That means you've to carry a funny dongle with you all the time? > Or is the "second factor" that oh-so-secure "smart" phone? Three choices for second factor: 1. use MS's own app for authentication. Yeah, right. 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart") 3. a phone call to your phone (could be landline or mobile) I've gone with 2 as that works most effectively wherever I may be (e.g. out of country, once things return to normal, assuming they do...). And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool. It's been hijacked. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?
Dystopian is right. Our organization, using O365, has moved to "multi-factor authentication" without consultation and I can no longer use gnus, for instance. Absolutely horrible. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
On Sunday, 11 Apr 2021 at 12:05, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > As suggested elsewhere: Testing is currently frozen, relatively few changes > happening. If this is a computer you rely on absolutely, you might want to > make sure that all the entries in your /etc/apt/sources.list point to bullseye > at the moment. Thank you. Excellent suggestion! -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:08, David Wright wrote: > My reaction upon reading this is that perhaps you should change your > priorities slightly. Yes, I understand where you are coming from. I do follow security advisories and upgrade specific packages. I do periodically upgrade all packages, just not with high frequency (e.g. maybe every 4-5 months). > The fact that the system "works" is a high bar for upgrading, and > takes no account of whether the system has vulnrabilities ripe > for exploit. But my computer is necessary for my work so I don't want to jeopardise it when it is doing the job. Yes, I could use Debian stable and probably should but over the (many) years, I found that I ended up needing to start using the backports repository too much. Testing with careful tracking works for me (fingers crossed). > OTOH the bank's website may well be checking your version number > against the latest available from mozilla (87 AIUI), without > regard for any patching done by Debian. Yes, very likely. > FWIW all the sites that I normally visit are working with > 78.9.0esr-1~deb10u1, the current version. (Note that writing > "version 78.9" doesn't tell us which version you're running—I see > a different one in bullseye: 78.9.0esr-1.) Yes, sorry, I was being lazy. It is indeed 78.9.0esr-1. Thanks again, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 10:05, David Christensen wrote: > When I want to upgrade, re-install, or install packages, I start with > 'apt-get update'. Yes, did that. > I would have done 'apt-get upgrade ...' instead of 'apt install > ...'. I then reboot. Not sure if you are saying to upgrade all packages or to use 'upgrade firefox-esr'? If the former, I did not want to do that. Although I use Debian testing, I treat it with respect and only upgrade when I really need something that has changed (or for security reasons). > If I want to re-install a package for whatever reason, I do 'apt-get > remove ...' or 'apt-get purge ...'. If I'm suspicious, I > reboot. Then I do 'apt-get install ...' and reboot. Yes, I guess I could be extreme and try this if everything else fails. Thank you. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 13:18, David Wright wrote: > "my system (mostly Debian testing)" For clarity, it's testing but has a couple of packages from elsewhere (MS Teams, Zoom) due to the fun times we are in... For some reason, my computer seems to think I am running bullseye/sid (contents of /etc/debian-version) although I do try to avoid Debian unstable so not sure where the /sid bit comes from. cheers, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
On Saturday, 10 Apr 2021 at 14:21, Linux-Fan wrote: > Did you try to completely stop all of the previous version's processes? Yes, I had quit firefox and also added 'pkill firefox-esr' for good measure. I will try upgrading firefox-esr again and make triply sure everything is gone before starting it. thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
upgrading firefox-esr from 78.6 to 78.9 results in non-working firefox
Hello all, I don't frequently upgrade if my system (mostly Debian testing) is working but my bank told me that my browser was out of date and I needed to upgrade. So, I did 'apt update' and 'apt install firefox-esr' to upgrade from version 78.6 to version 78.9. Start up the new version and not a single site I tried worked. Just blank pages. Reverted to 78.6 and it works just fine (although the bank is not happy with me...). I've checked the Debian bugs list but did not see anything relevant (although there are so many bug reports that it's easy to miss one...). I don't have time to do much more investigating at the moment but thought I'd post this just in case anybody else has had the same behaviour. I'll hopefully investigate more in a few days. Thank you, eric -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: Debian and Android
On Saturday, 16 Jan 2021 at 19:25, riveravaldez wrote: > I have issues with USB connection between Debian and Android, it > seems to work but in a buggy way... I gave up on MTP/PTP a while back as I could never get it to work consistently with various Android devices. > Usually I use `sshfs`. As do I along with AndFTP. If both desktop and phone are on the same LAN, I recommend kdeconnect-cli (kdeconnect apt package and kdeconnect app on phone). Allows me to send photos to the desktop easily as well as share other bits and bobs (e.g. website found while reading twitter on the phone). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: running microsoft team on debian 10.3
On Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 14:10, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Zoom has the same limitation on Linux but at least zoom allows the > other participants to zoom (no pun intended) into the view presented > by the application. Update: it does seem that zoom allows sharing individual windows. Worked for me this morning with 100 participants. I do have a paid-for zoom account (via my work place). -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: running microsoft team on debian 10.3
On Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 17:13, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In case it helps someone, zooming by the viewer in Teams should work on > mobile devices (tested on company iPad), no ideea about the desktop or > web app. Good to know. I tried with somebody using a Windows 10 laptop and there did not appear to be any zooming capability in the Teams viewer unfortunately. Zoom (the application) worked a little better in this regard in that it allows zooming in but not panning (or at least it wasn't apparent that panning was possible). Basically, Linux versions of these apps are not as good which, these days, is rather surprising (to me) as platform independent software should be much easier to write than it used to be. In the case of Teams, of course, there is a disincentive for MS to support Linux properly... -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: running microsoft team on debian 10.3
On Wednesday, 9 Dec 2020 at 07:57, Carl Fink wrote: > They say that "window" sharing is not available. "Screen" sharing is. > That is, you can't share a specific application, but you can share your > entire screen. Exactly. And very frustrating it is when your choice of screens is a wide 38" or a 27" in portrait mode... Why they cannot support window sharing is beyond me. Zoom has the same limitation on Linux but at least zoom allows the other participants to zoom (no pun intended) into the view presented by the application. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid
Re: running microsoft team on debian 10.3
I use it (have to for work) on Debian testing. Works generally okay. The main problem is that it does not play well with the window manager or desktop environment. For instance, it re-invents the wheel when it comes to notifications which causes some annoyance as notifications steal the focus. And don't get me started with the chat feature... Best is to turn off most notifications. I also did have to turn off gpu acceleration in teams as it consistently crashed my video but that was potentially an issue with the nouveau driver. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4 on Debian bullseye/sid