Re: xfce4 and automount usb stick icons on desktop
On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 05:12:47PM -0400, H.S. wrote: > BTW, is gnome-volume-manager a must for this automounting functionality? > Isn't there any other application that does this? Just curious. If you're running testing or unstable then thunar will do this without any gnome dependencies. Simon. -- Black Cat Networks-( Le doute est le commencement de la )- UK domain, email and web hosting -( sagesse. )- http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -( )- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice and xfwm4
On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 04:51:06PM -0300, Vagner Pedrotti wrote: > The only clue I have are the following lines from .xsession-errors: > ** (xfwm4:4333): WARNING **: The display does not support the XComposite > extension. > ** (xfwm4:4333): WARNING **: Compositing manager disabled. These aren't related and aren't a bug. They just mean what they say. Your X server/graphics hardware either doesn't support compositing (transparency and other magic) or you haven't turned it on. They shouldn't be what's causing the window title oddness. I haven't seen any other bug reports similar to this against xfwm4 (I'm part of the team that maintain all the Xfce packages in Debian). If you do find out that it's a problem with xfwm4 or you want us to ask upstream then email us (pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org) or file a bug. I don't know if upstream will have any clues though. Simon. -- UK based domain, email and web hosting ***/ "There's no emoticon for /* http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ **/ what I'm feeling!" -- Comic /** [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ Book Guy, The Simpsons. /*** Black Cat Networks / / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound problems after recent etch upgrade
Hiya Patrick, On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 09:54:55AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > After a recent upgrade of my testing system, some sound apps work > (xmms, eg) and others (in particular, xfce4-mixer) do not, complaining > that there is no alsa device. My sound driver - for the ESS maestro > chip in my laptop - is compiled into the kernel. (As an aside, I > tried recompiling, with the driver as a module, but 2.4.27 gave errors > using both gcc-3.3 and gcc-4.0; that's odd, because I've successfully > compiled it with gcc-3.3 several times before.) > I installed alsa-utils and ran alsaconf, but it found no PnP, PCI, or legacy > drivers! (I thought perhaps it didn't like drivers in the kernel, which is > why I tried to recompile.) > Any thoughts? Perhaps you're using OSS in xmms? Try installing xfce4-mixer-oss (which will remove xfce4-mixer-alsa). If you want to be using ALSA then I'd suggest looking at ALSA support in your kernel. You can check what output device xmms is using by right clicking on it and going through Options > Preferences. On the Audio I/O plugins tab, what is the output plugin? Simon. -- * "Engage panic Circuits. Panic circuits engaged. AAARRRGh!" - * | Kryten. | * * Brought to you by the letter U and the number 42 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gvim window activated by mutt doesn't get focus in xfwm4
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:33:19AM -0200, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao wrote: > Simon Huggins wrote on Jan, 9: > > > With KDE, when I edited a mail in mutt, a new buffer was created in > > > gvim, its window was raised and got focus. With xfwm4, the window is > > > raised but doesn't gain focus. I tried it with fluxbox, and it behaves > > > like KDE: the gvim window is raised and gets focus. > > What version of xfwm4? > ii xfwm4 4.2.3.2-2 window manager of the Xfce project Okie. > > What do you have in the settings of the window manager under the focus > > tab? > > > > > FocusRaise raises a window that got focus. The problem I observed is exactly > the opposite: to give focus to a window that got raised. FocusNewWindow > doesn't apply because a new window is not being created in this scenario. Oh right, sorry. I've misunderstood then. I thought you were talking about a new window. What do you mean instead? Simon. -- [ "Emergency! Emergency! There's an emergency going on!" - Holly ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gvim window activated by mutt doesn't get focus in xfwm4
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 02:45:24PM -0200, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao wrote: > With KDE, when I edited a mail in mutt, a new buffer was created in > gvim, its window was raised and got focus. With xfwm4, the window is > raised but doesn't gain focus. I tried it with fluxbox, and it behaves > like KDE: the gvim window is raised and gets focus. What version of xfwm4? What do you have in the settings of the window manager under the focus tab? -- Simon [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *\Le doute est le commencement de la \** ** ]-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-[ **\ sagesse. \* ** [ Htag.pl 0.0.22 ] ***\\ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfce question
Salut j! On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 02:02:24PM -0500, j Mak wrote: > --- Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:00:34PM -0500, j Mak > > wrote: > > > The other day, I installed enlightenment as a desktop on xfce. > > > But I didn't like the feel of it and removed enlightenment and > > > all the files I created during the installation. Now, xfce > > > has no window-manager and I cannot move the windows on the > > > screen. How can I restore the default settings? I am running > > > Sarge. > > Hrm. What does update-alternatives --list x-session-manager say? > > Does it still say "/usr/bin/xfce4-session"? Do you have xfwm4 > > installed? Can you run xfwm4 once you start xfce? If so then do so > > and save your session when you logout. If you can't, and your > > session manager is pointing at xfce4-session then try removing > > ~/.config/sessions/xfce4-session* and restarting X so that you get > > the default session back. > I've the /usr/bin/xfce4-session still; also the xfwm > installed; I've opened it and saved the session, I've > deleted the ~/.config/sessions/xfce4-session* as you > said and the problem still persists. > Here is the screen shot showing how the windows look > like: > http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5908/snapshot16gg.png > Note the missing close and minimzing buttons at the > top corner. Otherwise everything works great, except I > cannot move the windows on the screen. Well that looks like you're just not running xfwm4. Are you sure it is running? What does ps aux|grep xfwm4 say when you run it? Does /var/log/XFree86.0.log list any errors running xfwm4? What happens if you try to run xfwm4 manually from an xterm? -- Simon Huggins \ c con y a pas de /unfuck \ http://www.earth.li/~huggie/htag.pl 0.0.22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfce question
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:00:34PM -0500, j Mak wrote: > The other day, I installed enlightenment as a desktop on xfce. But > I didn't like the feel of it and removed enlightenment and all the > files I created during the installation. Now, xfce has no > window-manager and I cannot move the windows on the screen. How > can I restore the default settings? > I am running Sarge. Hrm. What does update-alternatives --list x-session-manager say? Does it still say "/usr/bin/xfce4-session"? Do you have xfwm4 installed? Can you run xfwm4 once you start xfce? If so then do so and save your session when you logout. If you can't, and your session manager is pointing at xfce4-session then try removing ~/.config/sessions/xfce4-session* and restarting X so that you get the default session back. Simon -- ... If you want to put your cat out, use a high quality fire extinguisher. - ISIHAC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: switchdesk question
On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 11:53:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2005 15:34, Eric Cheney wrote: > >On Sunday, 31 July 2005 at 10:56:44 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> No, I want to switch the desktop from gnome to kde. How is this > >> done in debian? > > > >If you have gdm installed, when you log in using gdm you can choose > >which "session" to log into using the mouse. Someone will have to > >help you if you use kdm or xdm. > > > >There's also a file called .dmrc store in your home directory that > >stores you default session. I don't know if that is contingent on > >having gdm installed. You could edit that. I have something like > >"session=xfce4" to start If you want to start gnome, I think it > >would be "session=gnomesession". I am not sure about kde. > Mine is really, really, helpfull, not! > session=Default Is this down to alternatives then? Have you tried update-alternatives --config x-session-manager ? Simon -- ... "And 1.1.81 is officially BugFree(tm), so if you receive any bug-reports on it, you know they are just evil lies." - Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce4 dependencies in stable
Hi Paolo, On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 12:42:02AM +0200, Paolo Pantaleo wrote: > I just installed xfce4 in stable version. i noticed that the package > xfce4 has not a dependecy requiring that a X server is installed, is > it a bug or a precise policy? > If it is a bug what should i do? I see you've already had a couple of responses saying that they don't believe this is a bug. If you'd looked at the BTS then you would see bug 286235 which hints that the meta package might want to Suggest x-window-system-core which is probably a fair point. I do intend to fix this, in fact I shall commit a fix to SVN for you now how's that? :) Obviously this won't be fixed in stable for some time. Simon. -- -+// - Oh no. It's closed. \\+- -+<< - We're not pre-school toys Slinky; we can read. >>+- -+\\ //+- Colocate your server with http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce 4.2
On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 09:10:41AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On 7/4/05, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/4/05, Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > > I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached. I updated with > > > > aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and > > > > nothing's different. The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6. > > > > There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed > > > > something. Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real? > > > > > > Did you really install it? > > > > > > What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance? > > As you suspected, that shows 4.0.6 installed, not 4.2. So, my > > question remains: aptitude d/l'ed it, but how do I install it? > On closer examination, it appears that the only piece of 4.2 in > testing is 'xfce4-icon-theme', so I guess I was wrong thinking it had > made it into testing. So I'll continue to wait. Oh testing. Right I missed that the first time around. You might have a long wait. I've been trying to persuade the sparc and s390 buildd admins to prod the builds but they haven't done this for everything xfce related yet. You (and interested parties) can track things at: http://people.debian.org/~igloo/status.php?email=pkg-xfce-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org&packages=&arches= and/or http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=xfce4 Simon. -- [ "Ah. So you're a waffle man!" - Talkie Toaster ] Black Cat Networks. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce 4.2
'ello Debian On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 10:07:47AM +0200, mess-mate wrote: > Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached. I updated with > | aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and > | nothing's different. The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6. > | There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed > | something. Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real? > You can get it here : > add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > deb http://the.earth.li/~huggie/xfce4/ ./ Ah good point. I've removed this now. xfce 4.2.2 is in unstable everywhere but sparc and s390 whose buildd admins need to prod it a little more as I've asked. Simon. -- [ I only play with my computer on days that end in "y".] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce 4.2
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 10:03:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I'm on 'testing', which xfce 4.2 _finally_ reached. I updated with > aptitude and apparently installed xfce 4.2, restarted X Windows, and > nothing's different. The xfce info tells me I'm still using 4.0.6. > There was no invitation to configure the package, so I guess I missed > something. Any ideas what I need to do to get xfce 4.2 for real? Did you really install it? What does dpkg -l xfce* show you for instance? Simon. -- Just another wannabie | 'Une pause s'impose' -- Gianny | Just another fool --++--- This message was brought to you by the letter X and the number 36. htag.pl 0.0.22 -- http://www.earth.li/projectpurple/progs/htag.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is 'rename' missing or is it just me?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 02:19:44PM -0500, Aarre Laakso wrote: > I run Debian unstable. I noticed today that I don't have a 'rename' > command in /usr/bin anymore, and /etc/alternatives/rename is a dangling > symlink to /usr/bin/rename-5.005 (the current version of Perl in > unstable is 5.8.7). Doing > apt-get --reinstall install perl-base > apt-get --reinstall install perl-modules > did not help. Is something broken in a Perl package right now? (*Which* > Perl package, so I can report a bug?) Or have I just hosed my own rename? I have: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2005-06-17 16:36 /usr/bin/rename -> /etc/alternatives/rename lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2005-06-17 16:36 /etc/alternatives/rename -> /usr/bin/prename And prename does exist. It's from perl 5.8.7-3 Not sure how yours got broken though. Perl is definitely still installed right? Simon. -- Just another wannabie | "The claw chooses who will go | Just another fool --+ and who will stay" +--- This message was brought to you by the letter D and the number 13. htag.pl 0.0.22 -- http://www.earth.li/projectpurple/progs/htag.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 04:59:47AM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:56:46PM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: > > I need to compile up 4.2.2 packages for sarge and bung them on the > > alioth page at some point. > Mmmm, upgrades. I really should see if there's something later than > 4.0.6 out. :D If you're on x86 then http://the.earth.li/~huggie/xfce4/ might just work for you. Simon. -- oOoOoDeja Moo - the feeling you've heard this bull before. oOoOo oOoOooOoOo oOoOo oOoOo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 11:17:09PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > satisfies my requirements well. I wouldn't have put so much time > > into fixing up the packages for Debian if I didn't think it was > > useful. > That's nice that you spend time on it -- and if it suits you, then all > well and good. When I used it, it seemed to crash a lot, and offered > not a lot in terms of focus or placement policies in comparsion to > other WMs (and some DEs). But I can see why people like it. See I wouldn't use it if it crashed a lot. I don't understand that. There are undoubtedly bugs in it as with every software but the ones I've seen have all been minor. -- ,--huggie-at-earth-dot-listuff-thing-stuff--DF5CE2B4--. _| If you want to put your cat out, use a high quality fire |_ | extinguisher. - ISIHAC| `- http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ - http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 07:09:00PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of > > these concepts given you can install as many or as few of the > > components as you like once you have the basic libraries installed? > > ;) > In that sense, then perhaps. But XFCE4's only good thing is that it > has plenty of eye-candy. You can't do a thing with it other than > that. I understand that a window manager/desktop environment is a personal choice but saying you can't do a thing with it is just wrong; it satisfies my requirements well. I wouldn't have put so much time into fixing up the packages for Debian if I didn't think it was useful. -- ,--huggie-at-earth-dot-listuff-thing-stuff--DF5CE2B4--. _| "Cerulean is a gentle breeze..." - Pusher |_ | | `- http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ - http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 02:00:18PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Do you have a real name? I always like to know who I'm talking to. > On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 17:56:46 +0100 > Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of > > these concepts given you can install as many or as few of the > > components as you like once you have the basic libraries installed? ;) > Having been a loyal IceWM user since Potato was new I recently > switched to Xfce4 to see what it could do for me. Well, IceWM has > /never/ crashed on me in all that time. Last week Xfce4 crashed on me > five times. Other than that, yes, it's a good compromise*. I've gone > back to the tried and true IceWM. How did you manage that? The panel plugins aren't sandboxed which can cause problems if the plugins have bugs. Which ones did you have installed? I must admit I didn't see your bug report in the BTS despite getting all of them for all the packages. Perhaps you can point me at it? Simon. -- [ "Rule six: There is no... rule six." - Monty Python ] Black Cat Networks. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:35:23PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Educate me: what's the difference? > A Window Manager, on the other hand, does just that -- it manages > windows. It doesn't dictate a file manager -- if you want one, you > can use one. There's no interoperability or common functions shared > between programs, like there is with DEs. It certainly provides a > great deal more flexibility. > So in that way, WMs are much faster, and most WMs are damn good at > managing the windows mapped to them. Does that mean that xfce4 is a good compromise then between both of these concepts given you can install as many or as few of the components as you like once you have the basic libraries installed? ;) Yes, yes, ok, I'll stop plugging it now. I need to compile up 4.2.2 packages for sarge and bung them on the alioth page at some point. Simon. -- oOoOo "Even if it does matter, does it matter that it matters?" - oOoOo oOoOo Marvin oOoOo oOoOo oOoOo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Request for window manager recommendations
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:25:08AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Jun 12 2005, Steve Lamb wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > A personal recommendation of your favourite window manager would be > > > much appreciated. > > I'd say give XFCE4 a try. While I generally use KDE it wasn't > > practical on my laptop w/only 192Mb of RAM. > But neither XFCE nor KDE are window managers. They are desktop > environments. This is a common misconception among people discussing > "graphical environments" for X. Some window managers blur the lines a bit anyway by including menus or panels etc that you can't get rid of. Xfce is very modular so you can just run the window manager (xfwm4) or you could run the window manager and the xfdesttop (for the root screen and the menu when you right click on the root screen) or you could run the panel as well as xfwm4 etc. Simon. -- [ If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:17:57PM +0200, Matthias Kaeppler wrote: > Simon Huggins wrote: > >Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge. > I know. That's why I asked if it's worth waiting for the next shift, > because once Sarge becomes stable, it's likely that XFCE 4.2 will soon > be in the /new/ testing branch. Yeah sure. > >Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is > >no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff. > Wrong. Sid (unstable) still has 4.0x. I want 4.2.x. Um, no read what I wrote. There are packages in _experimental_ in Debian. Have a look at: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/x11/xfce4 if you still don't believe me :p Simon. -- Black Cat Networks-( truth in search engines#4: do you )- UK domain, email and web hosting -(mean "kill my coworkerS"? -- )- http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -( http://www.ntk.net/ )- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade to XFCE 4.2 now?
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:43:23PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2005 the mental interface of > Matthias Kaeppler told: > > I guess XFCE 4.2 will not make it into Debian testing until Sarge > > goes stable? If that is the case, how long do you think it will > > /roughly/ take until this will happen? A rough approximation would > > be enough, so I can decide whether it is worth to take the > > additional trouble and install from an unofficial repo. Xfce 4.2 won't make sarge. > # Xfce from os-cillation > deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main > deb-src http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main Xfce has official Debian packages in experimental right now so there is no need to use the os-works/os-cillation stuff. Simon. -- oOoOo "Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable." - Monty Python oOoOo oOoOooOoOo oOoOo oOoOo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on an old PC
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 06:47:55PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2005 08:43 am, Alvin Smith wrote: > > No. You need a minimum of a Pentium 233 with 64 MB RAM to have much > > success running any GUI + Openoffice, even xfce. > And realistically on the user-side, you're looking more at getting a > machine that will run KDE with decent performance if you're trying to > convince a Windows user. Why? What's wrong with xfce? :) Simon. -- No pressure, huh? Glad I'm not the Commander - Tommy Okay, Lareo, take her out - Jason Galaxy Quest. pgpt7tGLnuTZg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt alternates command
On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 08:39:24AM +0800, Robert Vangel wrote: > Mike M wrote: > >2. What's the proper way to read /usr/share/doc/mutt/NEWS.Debian.gz? > > I used: > > # cd /usr/share/doc/mutt/ > > # gunzip NEWS.Debian.gz > > # vi NEWS.Debian > > > > It worked but it seems there should be some sort of tool. > Whenever I have things like that, I use > gzip -dc |less > Would be good if there was a gzless which automatically does it, or > `less --gzip ' or something similar. It's called zless and is installed by gzip. It's just a shell script which uses LESSOPEN. Simon. -- "Oops, yes, we now return you to your regularly scheduled kgcc wars." -- Malcolm Beattie
Re: world map or atlas?
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 12:05:11AM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > ps -- I tried xplanet, but it doesn't seem to work with xfce4, my WM > -- or anyway, if it does, I'm missing them agic password. I believe this is because it defaults to using the root window which xfdesktop will be controlling. Try xplanet -window instead. Simon. -- * "Clear?" - Holly. "No." - Lister. "Tough." - Holly. * | | * * Brought to you by the letter T and the number 22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFCE and themes switching
'ello Otto On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 09:44:59PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's in the xfce4-mcs-plugins package. You might need the > > gtk2-engines-xfce package too. > I have it installed (from Debian/sarge). My app is GTK 1.2 but there > doesn't seems to be a gtk-engines-xfce package. Ah no there isn't. And XFCE only does gtk2 stuff AIUI. You'll have to fix your gtk 1 theme some other way. Simon. -- oOoOo "Well, I'd better go and have a word with the guests. Why oOoOo oOoOodon't you have another vat of wine, dear?" - Basil, oOoOo oOoOo Fawlty Towers oOoOo htag.pl 0.0.22 ::: http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFCE and themes switching
On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 02:06:54PM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > Once my application on XFCE changed their look when I switched the theme > but not anymore. Most of them still show the ugly GTK look. What's > wrong? How does XFCE switch the themes so the apps show the correct > scrollbars etc? What package does this? Did you change it in the UI settings from the settings manager? That's in the xfce4-mcs-plugins package. You might need the gtk2-engines-xfce package too. If you don't get it working it would help to know what you have installed in terms of xfce packages. Simon. -- [ "Did someone say they wanted toast?" -- Talkie Toaster ] Black Cat Networks. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ctrl-a in firefox
On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 02:26:13PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Create a file named .gtkrc-2.0 in your home directory that reads > > gtk-key-theme-name = "Emacs" > >Worked for me, anyway. > thanks or the tip. after writing the email I found this on the web, > too, tried it but with no success! Would love to hear whether other > folks are having the same issue. If you're running GNOME or xfce4 (and probably KDE somehow too) then you're running an xsettings manager. You just need to go into keyboard settings and set the keyboard map to Emacs in xfce4 for instance. In Gnome you want to run gnome-keybinding-properties (or get to it through the menus somehow). I imagine there's a way to do this in KDE too. Simon. -- Black Cat Networks-( Hmmm. . A little sticky. I'll get )- UK domain, email and web hosting -( one of my boys up here with a can )- http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -( of WD-40. - Fred, Galaxy Quest. )- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce4 related questions
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 04:07:45PM +0100, David Dorward wrote: > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT), Sergio Basurto > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. The latest version is enough stable to install in a > > production server?, right now I have woody on it. > The "latest" version of XFCE is marked as beta and I find it runs fine > on my Sarge laptop. The latest stable version is pretty stable. > However, I wouldn't want to put an X11 server (ditto most X11 clients > - including XFCE) on any machine I termed "server" though. The latest version of xfce4 in testing and unstable is the stable branch of xfce4 and isn't the 4.2 beta release. It should be production quality (though I've some bug triaging and sending upstream I need to do - volunteers welcome). If you see any issues with it please report them as Debian bugs. Simon. -- oOoOo "I'm gonna eat you, little fishy!" - The Cat oOoOo oOoOooOoOo oOoOo oOoOo htag.pl 0.0.22 ::: http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring kdm
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:42:56AM -, Thomas Beresford wrote: > Well, I put that on .xinitrc but did'nt work, I still can't get the > xfce4 option to appear on my kdm window managers menu? Am I doing > something wrong? The best work around for KDM is to uncomment the line that says: #SessionsDirs=/etc/X11/sessions,/usr/share/xsessions -- ,--huggie-at-earth-dot-listuff-thing-stuff--DF5CE2B4--. _| "1 girl was just abducted." - Mulder "Kidnapped." - Scully |_ |"Potato, potato.." - Mulder | `- http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ - http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring kdm
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Rafael Alexandre Schmitt wrote: > Simon Huggins wrote: > >On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 07:17:00PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>I recently installed xfce4 in my woody system. Now I want to have the > >>option to select the xfce4 window manager in my kdm menu. How can I do > >>it? Anybody, could help me please? > >This is a still outstanding bug in kdm. > >See bug #247365 > >I'm not sure why it's still outstanding though. > This works fine form me: > | NAME=XFce4 > ICON=xfce4.png > EXEC=/usr/bin/startxfce4 > DESC=The bleeding edge > SCRIPT: > exec /usr/bin/startxfce4| > I put it on my .xinitrc. If you have a .xinitrc and choose to use that from *dm then it'll all work fine. The point is it should work out of the box when you just apt-get install kdm and xfce4 but it doesn't. Simon. -- UK based domain, email and web hosting ***/"Life... Don't talk to me /* http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ **/ about life..." - Marvin /** [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ /*** Black Cat Networks / / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring kdm
On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 07:17:00PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I recently installed xfce4 in my woody system. Now I want to have the > option to select the xfce4 window manager in my kdm menu. How can I do > it? Anybody, could help me please? This is a still outstanding bug in kdm. See bug #247365 I'm not sure why it's still outstanding though. -- Simon [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *\ Zelfs een blinde kip vindt wel eens \** ** ]-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-[ **\een korrel \* ** [ Htag.pl 0.0.22 ] ***\\ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfce4 dies instead of prompting when I click the logout button on the panel.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:13:47PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > On Monday 14 June 2004 16:00, Hamilton Coutinho wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:40:57PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > >> On Friday 11 June 2004 20:50, Hamilton Coutinho wrote: > >> > I'm not sure but I bet on the GTK upgrade from a week > >> > ago. > >> Could be. Is there a bug report? > > Actually, there is > > (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=253971). Oh interesting I didn't see that. Xfce4 have actually got an upstream release ready to go which fixes this a different way I think. > That report refers only to the icons. I'm not having that problem! You want: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252715 and the many merged bugs. I'm not sure what's truely causing it though sadly. Simon. -- [ "And on that day, Lister, Satan will be skating to work."] Black Cat Networks. http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding debian-menu to xfce4 panel
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 06:30:32PM +0200, Matthias Kraus wrote: > Simon Huggins schrieb: > >On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:50:12PM +0200, Matthias Kraus wrote: > >>I want to add the debian-menu to the xfce4 panel, > >>but I had found no way to do this job. Can anyone > >>help, show me an howto, etc. ? > >As far as I know there's no way to do this though someone asked on IRC > >today and there's a plugin for the panel to do this in CVS apparently. > If there is one, where do you think I can get it. > I don't want to add the whole tree to apt. It's in CVS at http://lunar-linux.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/xfce4/xfdesktop/panel-plugin/?cvsroot=Xfce but don't expect it to work on the stable 4.0 branch which is the one in unstable/sarge. > >Is it that annoying to find a bit of blank desktop and right click? > It's not the problem to add a program that is often used to the panel > or the desktop but it is a problem to remember that thousands of (more > or less) little helpers only needed sometimes. If you want the Debian menu you can get it by right clicking on the desktop - you don't need a plugin to the panel to do this. Simon. -- -+//If at first you don't succeed, you'll get lots of advice. \\+- -+<<>>+- -+\\ //+- Colocate your server with http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new X update screwing up xfce4
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 10:34:48PM -0500, Rob Benton wrote: > I updated with some package the other day, and my icons on my xfce > taskbar are all chopped off on the edges. sreenshot: > http://www.geocities.com/emperorrob Upstream are doing a new release to fix it. It's caused by the gtk 2.4 update. The new release will be packaged once it's out. Simon. -- oOoOo "I'm packing you an extra pair of shoes and your angry eyes oOoOo oOoOo- just in case" -- Mrs. Potato Head.oOoOo oOoOo oOoOo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding debian-menu to xfce4 panel
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:50:12PM +0200, Matthias Kraus wrote: > I want to add the debian-menu to the xfce4 panel, > but I had found no way to do this job. Can anyone > help, show me an howto, etc. ? As far as I know there's no way to do this though someone asked on IRC today and there's a plugin for the panel to do this in CVS apparently. Is it that annoying to find a bit of blank desktop and right click? -- ,--huggie-at-earth-dot-listuff-thing-stuff--DF5CE2B4--. _| "This isn't flying, it's falling with style" -- Buzz Lightyear |_ || `- http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ - http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk/ -' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: aptitude farted?
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 06:50:31PM -0400, Silvan wrote: > aptitude is trying to remove a bunch of stuff I most assuredly DO > need. I'm hacking on a KDE app. I don't want to remove these. WTF?? [..] > aptitude install checkinstall [..] > The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED: > kapptemplate kbabel kbugbuster kcachegrind kdesdk-kfile-plugins > kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kompare kuiviewer poxml umbrello valgrind > valgrind-calltree [..] > Just for fun, I tried kdevelop3, and got the same list of things > aptitude is convinced I no longer need. No, I'm only installing a > development IDE for KDE stuff. I don't need any of the kde devel > stuff. What, do you think I'm going to use the IDE to develop KDE > stuff? No. I'm going to use it to write bash scripts. The above packages are probably marked as automatically installed for some reason. Did you bulk tag a pile of packages as automatically installed when you started using aptitude? You could run: aptitude install checkinstall kapptemplate kbabel kbugbuster kcachegrind kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc kdesdk-scripts kompare kuiviewer poxml umbrello valgrind valgrind-calltree Or you could manually tag those packages as /not/ being automatically installed in the interface (with "m" I believe) You probably also need to check that other packages that you want aren't set as having been automatically installed too. -- --( Zelfs een blinde kip vindt wel eens een korrel )-- Simon ( ) Nomis Htag.pl 0.0.22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding Xfce4 to the GDM sessions menu
On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 04:49:04PM +, Adam Funk wrote: > On Saturday 10 April 2004 18:30, Bob Schlärmann wrote: > > GDM recently switched to a new session file format based on .desktop > > files. There's a bug tracking this as well 241080. It'll be fixed in the next upload. (well if I ever get gdm to work given #237615). Upstream have been promising 4.0.5 since 21st March but it hasn't happened yet and I was waiting for that before fixing the other bits up. > While sorting this problem out, I noticed that /etc/gdm/Sessions/Xfce4 > contains the following: > #!/bin/sh > exec /etc/X11/Xsession /usr/bin/xfce4-session > What's the practical difference between running > /usr/bin/xfce4-session > and > exec /etc/X11/Xsession /usr/bin/xfce4-session > ? It'll run all the bits in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ first too so for instance it'll run ssh-agent if you have use-ssh-agent in /etc/X11/Xsession.options Basically it means it should fit in better with what everything else does (startx, other session managers). Simon. -- Black Cat Networks-( "Fast, fat computers breed slow, )- UK domain, email and web hosting -( lazy programmers." )- http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -( )- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lightweight Alternative to Mozilla-Firebird
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 10:17:21PM +1000, Peter A. Cole wrote: > Just wondering if anyone can suggest a lighter weight alternative to > Mozilla Firebird? dillo is very lightweight but not very featureful. I guess it depends where your cutoff lies. -- Simon Huggins \ Cows turn themselves inside out all the time. - Officer, \ South Park http://www.earth.li/~huggie/htag.pl 0.0.22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: does moin wiki need Apache 2?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:30:48PM +0100, Boudewijn van der Drift wrote: > Does the moin-script perhaps expect Apache 2? I have Apache 1.3.29 on > this sarge machine. No, I have a locally installed copy of moin running on 1.3.26 > [Wed Feb 18 13:22:43 2004] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Premature end of > script headers: /var/local/lib/05.150.001/cgi-bin/moin.cgi What happens if you request http://wherever/moin.cgi?test ? Simon. -- -+// "Thanks, and THIS time it really is fixed. I mean, how many\\+- -+<< times can we get it wrong? At some point, we just have to run out >>+- -+\\ of really bad ideas.." -- Linus //+- Colocate your server with http://www.blackcatnetworks.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
