Re: Re: hard crash on leap second
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du jeudi 01 janvier 2009, vers 01:25, Travis Crump pretz...@techhouse.org disait : I had a hard crash of my lenny system precisely when the leap second was added. While X has flaked in the past, I've never had a hard crash before. I have no other evidence they were related, but I wasn't doing anything unusual at the time. Any ideas? Hi! Which kernel do you use? It is a known problem on 2.6.21 but may appear on any kernel before 2.6.21.6. See: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-07/msg00714.html http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/7/3/103 It should not happen on Lenny kernel (2.6.26). I was using an old revision of the lenny kernel[linux-image-2.6.26-1-amd64 2.6.26-4], but have since upgraded to the latest (lenny) version. Perhaps that was it. Another potential data point, fetchmail was running and went to sleep for 120 seconds at 11:58:00 UTC. X being flakey was more to imply that I know the difference between X freezing and the system crashing. X has never frozen on this hardware though it does occasionally restart itself when I switch vts[I wasn't switching vts at the time]. I couldn't ssh in and the Num Lock LED wouldn't toggle[my standard as to whether the keyboard is alive]. The monitor stayed in its last state and the last half-second of the audio of the video I was watching looped continuously. Travis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkldCakACgkQlxHEcbyY0skN9wCggRF+RXsHRGU2QQFTl9KNyGle OTsAniAO3rQUbOiE5IjPUb8e5xaRZri6 =N4Ib -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
hard crash on leap second
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had a hard crash of my lenny system precisely when the leap second was added. While X has flaked in the past, I've never had a hard crash before. I have no other evidence they were related, but I wasn't doing anything unusual at the time. Any ideas? Travis -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklcDXUACgkQlxHEcbyY0snlQQCgukkCFBv27AxFDOASyYms+rEL 4N4AnjUlpmyctVeJ/pXXzmfQuf5Q/Lom =IxRA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to make dpkg forget a package was ever there?
William Ballard wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:22:50AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
I have edited /var/lib/dpkg/status to recover from a b0rked system after a
power outage in the middle of a fairly big dist-upgrade. Just be careful,
as you have the potential to really hose dpkg's idea of what is on your
system.
I'll show you the bit I want to edit out:
begins...
present in the `icu' and `icu-locales` packages.
Package: fglrx-4.3.0-kernel-2.6.9
Status: purge ok not-installed
Priority: extra
Section: non-free/x11
Architecture: i386
Package: unrar
continues
I want to remove the middle bit, related to fglrx-4.3.0-kernel-2.6.9.
Just chomp it out?
It also appears in status-old.
Removing the Architecture line seems safest if you want to mess with the
status file[which I don't recommend]. Alternatively, apply the attached
patch to vrms[which is just a perl script].
Random ironic aside, shouldn't vrms have a copyright/license header and
the top of the perl script or does /usr/share/doc/vrms/copyright
suffice? A quick survey of perl scripts in /usr/bin/ showed most have a
copyright/license header but for instance bonobo-slay also doesn't.
--- /usr/bin/vrms 2002-08-05 22:59:06.0 -0400
+++ ./vrms 2005-01-10 00:57:29.0 -0500
@@ -92,7 +92,7 @@
my (@pkglines) = split(/\n/, $clump);
### iff more than for lines, package is installed, so process
it
### (speed-up by skipping don't-care entries)
- if(@pkglines 4) {
+ if(@pkglines 5) {
my $pkg = ; ### name of this
package
my $pkgstatus = ; ### status
my $plan = ; ### install plan
(hold, deinstall, purge, install, etc.)
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Re: different gecko-based browsers?
David Garamond wrote: Travis Crump wrote: - No optical zooming (is it possible with gecko?) Ctrl-Alt-+ :), That's font scaling, not optical zooming :) No, font scaling is Ctrl-+, Ctrl-Alt-+[and for me only the + on the keypad works not the += key] zooms the entire desktop while keeping the same virtual desktop size[as opposed to xrandr which adjusts the virtual desktop size as well]. It's not even a mozilla command persay as it interacts directly with the X server. Probably not exactly what you want but may be sufficient for your needs, hence the smiley. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: different gecko-based browsers?
David Garamond wrote: I found these gecko-based browsers in the repository. mozilla-browser mozilla-firefox kazehakase galeon epiphany Any others that I missed? I wonder if there's a browser with different/alternative UI. All of the above are basically more of the same. The UIs are similar to the traditional Mozilla suite and they both share many of the annoyances and the lack of features, e.g. - when middle-clicking on a non-link area it pops an error Invalid URL (I misclick often, so that's very annoying) For mozilla/firefox, you want user_pref(middlemouse.contentLoadURL, false); in user.js or it can be set via about:config in the usual manner - No optical zooming (is it possible with gecko?) Ctrl-Alt-+ :), there are also various extensions that allow you to zoom into images. - Roughly the same keyboard shortcuts (e.g. Ctrl-PgUp, Ctrl-PgDn; A browser with a keyboard shortcut set more like Opera would be nice, using 1 and 2 to cycle tabs :-) They choose the shortcuts they think people will be familiar with since users are notorious for not wanting to read documentation. That's how they all end up with the same ones[Ctrl-Tab, Ctrl-Shift-Tab also cycle through tabs if that's any better] - No friendly features for low-bandwidth connections like turning off images with a single keystroke. Cannot save images that are still loading. And Firefox/Galeon/Epiphany doesn't even have the Never cache checking option (I know there's probably a config in prefs.js but...). Regards, dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: OT: How to add tab-closing X in Firefox, like Galeon?
Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Pascal Bonesh wrote: On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 10:54 -0600, Kent West wrote: Does anyone know how to add the closing X to Firefox's tabs? have you tried TabbrowserExtension? No, because the homepage for that extension (http://www.pryan.org/mozilla/site/TheOneKEA/tabprefs/) doesn't mention this feature. It does a whole lot more than just add a close button and works in Firefox 1.0. So you're saying it does include this feature? I'll try it. Nope, apparently it doesn't. At least, not that I can find. The URL is http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/tabextensions/index.html.en I am not using the latest version but an old version has the preference under Tab-Tabbrowser Extensions-Tabs[also under regular preferences popup as well in a similar place] and I don't imagine it's been removed. I am relatively sure this URL corresponds to the mozilla-tabextensions package but I am too lazy to check. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox
Ralph Katz wrote: On 12/17/2004 11:40 PM, Travis Crump wrote: If it makes you feel any better, I can't for the life of me figure out where in the gnome-keyboard-properties dialog you are supposed to set this. From terminal: $ gnome-keybinding-properties Note that that is different from gnome-keyboard-properties. gnome-keybinding-properties just gives me the dialog where you set shortcuts ala the old acme. Still can't figure out where I'd be supposed to find 'text editing shortcuts'; I've tried everything under Applications-Desktop Preferences. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Thunderbird style search in Firefox
Steve Lamb wrote: Ralph Katz wrote: On 12/17/2004 08:30 PM, Roberto Sanchez wrote: If anyone knows how to get Firefox and Thunderbird to default to the old keyboard shortcuts, I would like to know about it. I learned the answer earlier from this list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/10/msg03534.html Fat lot that does those of us using KDE. Pft. This whole must run Gnome to configure crap is starting to really piss me off. At least KDE apps have the courtesy of allowing one to configure their shortcuts in the app. If it makes you feel any better, I can't for the life of me figure out where in the gnome-keyboard-properties dialog you are supposed to set this. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Firestarter for Testing (Sarge)?
Ralph Katz wrote: Oops! I looked at my sources.list and made a wrong accusation about a typo in yours. Yours looks correct. Sorry about that. But do switch to a mirror, I'll stick with that suggestion. :) Ralph (using firestarter in sarge) Ok, I am confused. Isn't us.debian.org just a round robin dns for all the mirrors situated in the USA? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: dpkg uninstalled packages
Alexander Pohl wrote: I'm using a freshly installed and up to date version of Debian Sarge. In Woody uninstalled packages had a description for installed as well as uninstalled packages by default. I would like to get the descriptions back as it is really bad when you don't see the description of a package that you might want to install. Need help. Thanks, Alexander I can't reproduce that dpkg -l '*mysql*' gives descriptions for uninstalled packages in my woody chroot; I think the current[Sarge] behavior is the way it's always been. I would suggest you either use a front end like aptitude, or else use apt-cache and/or grep-dctrl to search for packages that you might want to install. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spamassassin 3.0 not in testing
MrVanes wrote: Hi, I've been watching the spamassassin package page (http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/spamassassin.html) for a while now, hoping for spamassassin 3.0 to enter testing but it's being held (for 23 days) by some 'aba'. SA has no dependancies (as far as I can see) that need to be fulfilled before entering and no release critical bugs! Can anybody please explain this to me? Regards, Martin aba==Andreas Barth, along with Colin Watson, Steve Langasek, and Frank Lichtenheld, he is one of the individuals in charge of the release of Sarge. Initially there were performance regression concerns with spamassassin 3.0[which appear to have been addressed to most people's satisfaction but I could be wrong], and I vaguely remember concerns with bayse database upgrade paths[which didn't affect woody-sarge anyway], and it also appears to break spamass-milter[and possibly other packages though the only other one explicitly listed has been updated already[gotmail]], but I don't know what the current concerns are, if any. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: playing mkv files.
Alex Polite wrote: I'm trying to play som mkv (matroska) video files. So far I've tried mplayer, xine, vlc and gstreamer, all from unstable. None of them are able to play the files. Xine complains about a missing demuxer. I know that these programs support matroska so I guess the problem is the debian packs aren't compiled with matroska support. Are there any unofficial packs for unstable with matroska support, or do I have to compile it myself? alex Xine in unstable/marillat's mplayer both work fine for me with mkv. I think it is more likely that you are having problems with the codecs than mkv itself. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: recover date after rm -rf
Robert Storey wrote: There's no simple solution for recovering the data you've already lost. However, there is a very good way to prevent such a thing from happening again. There is an even better way, make backups. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Get directories names
David Jardine wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 05:09:51PM -0500, Tong wrote: Hi, I used to use the following command/alias to get the names under the current directory in RH: ls -l criteria | grep ^d | cut -c57- but in Debian, the position of the file name is not fixed. It is for me, and the above command works perfectly. It is? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ mkdir subdir [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ ls -l | grep ^d | cut -c57- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ ls -l total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 pretzalz pretzalz 4096 Nov 9 22:20 subdir [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ dd if=/dev/zero of=hole bs=1k count=10 seek=1M 10+0 records in 10+0 records out 10240 bytes transferred in 0.000647 seconds (15827849 bytes/sec) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ ls -l | grep ^d | cut -c57- subdir [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/test1$ ls -l total 24 -rw-r--r-- 1 pretzalz pretzalz 1073752064 Nov 9 22:23 hole drwxr-xr-x 2 pretzalz pretzalz 4096 Nov 9 22:20 subdir And I agree that find is the best solution. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: IDE not detected
Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2004-11-07 at 09:43 -0800, mamas wrote: My Debian testing system (2.4.27-1-386) has two SCSI hds and SCSI DVD reader and CD burner. The only ide device is a 60GB hd in which I installed a WinXP environment. Linux is booting without problems, but it does not detect (discover1) the ide controller and drive, thus making it impossibile to mount the ntfs WinXP disk. Before installing testing I had tried stable, which did not have this problem. Is there something I can do, without reinstalling or recompiling, to make Linux notice the presence of my IDE disk? Why not just manually add the drive to your /etc/fstab, and put ntfs in your /etc/modules? (Or, better yet, build ntfs directly into the kernel?) Because it wouldn't do anything useful? Because ntfs has nothing to do with the ide controller? I've had similar problems with 2.4.27 and in my opinion it is just broken. 2.4.25 works fine though on my sarge system. 2.4.26 may or may not work I haven't extensively tested it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: printing black white on a colour printer
Levi Waldron wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:19:32 -0700, Roy Pluschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have a Deskjet, different model though. Even when I pick Greyscale in the Printout Mode under Resolution it still says something like: 300 dpi, greyscale, Black and Color Cart. This leads me to believe that the color catridge is used for greyscale printing or it is just a ripoff by HP to get us to by more ink. This seems to be true for many HP printers, but not the Deskjet 710C (see http://its.truman.edu/news/newsletters/HP_Deskjet_grayscale.stm ). When I select grayscale from the kdeprint dialog, shouldn't send a black white image to the printer anyways? Or does it still send the colour image but (supposedly) flag a grayscale option in the driver? It doesn't appear to do either, in my case. I have a DeskJet 712C which I think is the same basic thing. Bear in mind that it isn't a real printer that takes postscript, instead it uses a special program to produce the printer commands and ignores feedback from the printer[calling it a 'driver' is /very/ generous]. Personally, I have 4 'printers' set up[w/ lprng]: bw, bweco, color, coloreco,[and ascii]. The printers use different filters which have different options to pnm2ppa to do the right thing. If I want a black and white print out, I tell the program to print [color] to the bw printer. If KDE tries to 'flag a grayscale option in the driver' on its own it will probably fail. Then again, my printer filters are all in /usr/local/bin/ so it is probably a 'nonstandard' setup. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: USE flags ??
Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:46:38 -0700, Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you could always do apt-get source package and build your own debian packages with your custom-made Makefiles. How to do this for anything other than the kernel package is a bit beyond me, though, as software that performs significantly better with optimizations is already compiled for the various sub-architectures. You don't just mess with USE flags (or the build process) for performance - e.g. you may not want to have x support in emacs, but the debian emacs package has them and thus pulls in xlibs etc. etc. Pulling the emacs source, the build-deps and modifying debian/rules would allow you to build it w/o X, but it wouldn't modify the package dependencies and the build-deps I think would pull in various X things. Did you try it or are you just guessing? Try it, I think you will be pleasantly surprised[though emacs isn't the best example since it already provides a nox package]. Just do apt-get source package, cd package, fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -d ... , and voila any uninstalled, 'optional' build-dependencies will be ignored and their corresponding packages will be left out of the depends of the resulting package. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to configure apt to retrieve Packages.bz2?
s. keeling wrote: file size being downloaded or transferred, it is the Packages.gz file size, not the Packages.bz2 file size, which is significantly different. I have no idea what you're talking about. At least you are honest, but then why are you attempting to 'answer' him... As for why apt doesn't use Packages.bz2 by default, I think it is because bunzip2 is too resource-intensive for low-spec machines. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sid net-install
Paul Johnson wrote: Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it also possibe to download a minimal cd for SID net-install ? No. Please read the archives, this was asked recently. quote who=Christian Perrier where=debian-release The package will be tested by all people using D-I netboot or businesscard builds and pointing to unstable rather than testing. I suggest we leave maybe a few days with the package in unstable, allowing people using unstable to report bugs. The goal is having it in for the release, so the timeline mostly depends on the release timeline. On the other hand, the sooner the package goes in testing, the sooner it receives more testing, because most D-I installation testers use testing as target because thisis the default setting. /quote While quick searching doesn't reveal where they are to be had/or if they are even identical to the sarge net-install, quotes like this do imply to me that it is possible to net-install unstable from a minimal CD. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: disk defragmenting
Paul Johnson wrote: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any defragmenting tool in any distro? Not anymore. and if not why? Modern filesystems are designed to minimize fragmentation in the first place. The need for a seperate, user-space defragger is the hallmark of a poorly designed filesystem. When I do fsck on my ext3 partitions, it usually reports something like /dev/hda9: 743/7880704 files (22.2% non-contiguous), 13758077/15756922 blocks Does that imply that the partition is fragmented or not? Though frankly I don't really care that much if it is. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?
Kent West wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: ... a poster in this thread said something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it. top-left is this a joke? the exact location is going to be pretty arbitrary depending on WM/theme... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Avoiding pattern expansion in bash?
Olle Eriksson wrote: This might be a little off topic but here it goes anyway. I am writing a bash script that takes as input a file expression such as /etc/lilo.conf or /boot/config* etc. I want to keep those strings as they are (including the *) and echo them to a file. How do I prevent bash from doing its pattern expansion where it turns /boot/config* into a list of files that match the expression. If I use echo $1 it becomes the first file that matches the expression /boot/config*. If I use echo $* it becomes a space separated list of all the files that match the expression. I want none of this. Any ideas? Regards Olle Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ cat test.sh #!/bin/sh echo $1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ./test.sh '/boot/config*' /boot/config* Not sure I understand what exactly is the problem you are having... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: HOW to move one window from one desktop to another?
Travis Crump wrote: Kent West wrote: Jon Dowland wrote: ... a poster in this thread said something along the lines of click on the top-right icon for a window and it has a drop-down menu that lets you move it. top-left is this a joke? the exact location is going to be pretty arbitrary depending on WM/theme... sorry ignore parent signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: broken packages
Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: Hello, I'm experiencing the following problem: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep openoffice.org Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig Abhangigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig E: Some broken packages were found while trying to process build-dependencies for openoffice.org. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. Any ideas how to debug this? With kind regards, Baurjan. Try installing the build-dependencies one by one['cat /var/lib/apt/lists/*Sources | grep-dctrl -PX openoffice.org' or 'dpkg-checkbuilddeps' in the openoffice.org debian/.. directory] . Since sarge/sid's apt should no longer give this less than helpful error message I'll assume you are using woody in which case be aware that trying to build openoffice.org may require some work. :) Figuring out what build dependencies you really need and what substitutions can be made can be more of an art than a science at times[eg if you don't have a scanner than you probably don't need to install libsane-dev]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: broken packages
Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 06:30:03AM +0200, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: E: Some broken packages were found while trying to process build-dependencies for openoffice.org. So, I've updated apt and all Build-Depends packages manually. Now, apt-get build-dep openoffice.org wants to remove libcurl3, libcurl3-dev, libidn11, libidn11-dev, mutt and whois. Is there a way to trace the decision process? With kind regards, Baurjan. Try 'apt-get build-dep -o Debug::PkgProblemResolver=true openoffice.org'. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Using mplayer save RealMedia audio in a sensible format?
Adam Funk wrote: On Thursday 30 September 2004 19:50, Adam Funk wrote: Sorry: I'm sure I've most of the man mplayer page a few times and I still can't figure out how to do this. I want to convert a RealPlayer URL stream into a file in some sensible (e.g. WAV, Ogg, MP3) audio format. I started with this: mplayer -dumpfile foo.wav -dumpstream rtsp://ra but foo.wav turned out to be a RealMedia file. Since posting this, I found the answer. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20040508124642.1144B16A50E_hub.freebsd.org%40ns.sol.net Scroll down to message 5. mplayer file.ra -ao pcm also works as mplayer -ao pcm rstp://ra and produces a WAV file, audiodump.wav. (I think I had tried the -ao pcm option in combination with -dumpstream.) I'm still curious, however. Why does mplayer record to a RealAudio file, which is not a useful format? It is not recording to anything, it is recording bit for bit the input stream. Which can be useful for either diagnostic purposes[is mplayer having problems with the rstp protocol or the realplayer codec?], or because converting to a lossless format would take up too much room[in my experience -ao pcm can generate very large wav files[10x-20x the original]] and converting to another lossy format is undesired due to inherent degradation. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Does Unstable become Testing?
Paul Johnson wrote: William Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 07:28:22AM -0700, Zachary Rizer wrote: No. Unstable (sid) will always be unstable. Testing becomes the new stable, and then a new testing is born (etch?). Could you be more precise? What is renamed, what is forked, what is cloned? Start of the cycle: Unstable forks a new testing. Testing freezes, frozen replaces testing. Frozen then replaces existing stable, which moves to the obsolete archive. The 'new' testing will be a fork of stable[which in turn is derived from the 'old' testing], not unstable... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: I have no /usr/src/linux/ sources
Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 06:10:46 -0700, Stefan O'Rear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Eric Dickner wrote: What am I missing here, besides these .h files? Nothing. How to cope: # mkdir /usr/src/linux # mkdir /usr/src/linux/include This is only looking for trouble. You should not mess with files managed by your package manager (dpkg). As a user you are only free to create/copy files on your home or in /usr/local, any other location should not be touched /usr/src/ should be fine too touch manually.[Though I am not convinced this solution is correct, nothing should be referencing kernel headers except for kernel modules which generally need the exact version, ie install the appropriate kernel-headers package and create a symlink to /usr/src/linux/] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Developing flash on debian
Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 07:41:32AM -0700, Zachary Rizer wrote: If you are using flash, I must warn you to only use it to make movies or games, NEVER for navigation, as it is not a highly accessible technology. Please, stay away from it for web design. Well said. It would be useful if there was a flash plugin that did nothing but extract URLs and present them in clickable form, so you could still navigate web sites that have the above problem but are spared all the multimedia garbage. There is... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: saving web pages as text from mozilla
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you force mozilla to save a web page as text? There used to be an option whether to save as html or as text but that doesn't exist anymore. I thought that perhaps mozilla paid attention to the file extention but sometimes when I save 'filename.txt' it *still* saves the html. Why is that? Works for me as of 20040901. Choose Save As and it gives me four choices: Web page complete, web page html only, text only, all files. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Remove unrequired dependencies
Tom Wesley wrote: Hi, Sorry for a probably normal query, but I couldn't find an answer with Google: Is there a simple way to remove packages that were installed as dependencies for packages that have since been removed? Cheers, aptitude markauto '~slibs' should get most of them though there may be a couple false positives so be careful. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: exim-tls removed from sid and sarge?
Carl Fink wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 01:45:41AM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: Carl Fink wrote: I just noticed that all outgoing mail from my system is sitting frozen in the queue. I send using my ISP (panix.com) as a smarthost, and apparently exim-tls was removed from sid and sarge (and automatically uninstalled from my system), I find that unlikely. Unlikely? I checked packages.debian.org in addition to apt-cache search. How can facts be unlikely? unlikely was in response to 'and automatically uninstalled from my system'. In the 2¾ years I have been using Debian, apt/aptitude et al have never taken it upon themselves to do anything automatically. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Cannot get this virtual package right!
David A. Cobb wrote: I currently am running kernel-2.6.7-1 and I've slowly brought many key components up to the bleeding edge. I have apt at 0.6.25 I keep getting (aptitude, and others) depends on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3; however: Package libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 is not installed. I googled the site, and find that this is a virtual package and that it caused a batch of problems a while back; also that it should be provided by apt-utils. I did not get any errors listed when I installed from apt-utils_0.6.25_i386.deb. Please, what do I need to do to get this library to show up?? There is, evidently, a shared-object library by the same name that I should have but do not. it is provided by apt in testing/unstable, if you want to use experimental's apt you will have to rebuild aptitude et al against libapt-pkg-dev from experimental. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: command to answer what's your OS
Dan Jacobson wrote: Recently in webland I was asked What is your OS? I wanted a single command that would say Debian GNU/Linux, $ uname -a #no Debian Linux jidanni1 2.6.7-1-k7 #1 Thu Jul 8 06:45:35 EDT 2004 i686 GNU/Linux $ cat /etc/debian_version #doesn't say GNU/Linux. testing/unstable $ grep free /etc/motd #kind of sloppy The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; Therefore there is no single standard command that says Debian GNU/Linux. cat /etc/issue or cat /etc/issue.net Also works on Slackware[all I have access to] so it seems standard. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: exim-tls removed from sid and sarge?
Carl Fink wrote: I just noticed that all outgoing mail from my system is sitting frozen in the queue. I send using my ISP (panix.com) as a smarthost, and apparently exim-tls was removed from sid and sarge (and automatically uninstalled from my system), I find that unlikely. You can always try snapshot.debian.net or woody/security though you may have to forward port it[though it doesn't look like it]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why did apt-get remove my equivs-made package to install gnupg?
Adam Funk wrote:
I compiled GnuPG myself and installed it in /usr/local/. To satisfy
dependencies I created the following control file
Package: gnupg-af
Provides: gnupg
Conflicts: gnupg
Description: GnuPG compiled by AF.
GnuPG compiled by AF
and made a package file and installed it. A few days ago, while I was
upgrading some KDE packages, apt-get required removing that package
and installing the official gnupg package. Why?
I'd like to remove the official package and keep using my own
compilation only, but `dpkg -i gnupg-af_1.0_all.deb` wants to remove
gnupg and the packages that depend on it, even thought gnupg-af
Provides: gnupg.
Looking at the archives{sarge}[grep-available -FDepends 'gnupg (' -s
Package,Depends], kuvert, python-gnupginterface, libgpgme11, libgpgme6,
and echolot all have versioned depends on various versions of gnupg.
Versioned depends can never be satisfied by a Provides[since Provides
can't be versioned] and therefore require that the actual gnupg be
installed. You are probably best off just calling your equiv package
'gnupg'[or just making a deb of your own compiled version], not
bothering with Provides/Conflicts, and giving it a version like
'42:real-version'.
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Re: root partition full and du and df do not agree
Elimar Riesebieter wrote: On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 the mental interface of Elimar Riesebieter told: On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 the mental interface of John Harrold told: I have a delima. My root partition is about 24Gb and it's full. The problem is that I cannot figure out what is taking up the space. If I goto '/' and run 'du -x' it says that about 500Mb are being used. This is about what I would expect. Now If I run 'df' it says the partition is 100% full. Is there any way to check for unlinked files which are taking up space or something like that? I'm quite baffled here. This computer is running sarge. $ du-sh | sort -n Sorry $ du -s(h|m|k) * | sort -n ^ ^ ^ choose what ever you want ;-) Elimar Don't use -h, it will sort wierdly, ie 800K will sort as larger than 400M. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
linux-kernel-2.4.27, hpt366 ide channel not detected
I have two extra IDE [RAID] channels on my motherboard that use the hpt366 driver and I am using as just regular IDE channels. There is just one hard drive that is the master on the first of these channels which has several data partitions. With linux-kernel 2.4.25 with debian patches built with make-kpkg, I get messages like: Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: HPT372: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:13.0 Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: HPT372: chipset revision 5 Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: HPT372: not 100%% native mode: will probe irqs later Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: HPT37X: using 33MHz PCI clock Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: ide2: BM-DMA at 0xc000-0xc007, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio Sep 3 12:36:25 localhost kernel: ide3: BM-DMA at 0xc008-0xc00f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio and everything works fine. But with 2.4.27, both make-kpkg built and kernel-image-2.4.27-1-k7, I get nothing. It's like it is not even there. I don't even really know where to start troubleshooting. scanpci lists: pci bus 0x cardnum 0x13 function 0x00: vendor 0x1103 device 0x0004 Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 so at least that much is still getting detected. And cat /proc/pci lists: Bus 0, device 19, function 0: RAID bus controller: Triones Technologies, Inc. HPT366/368/370/370A/372 (rev 5). IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=8. I/O at 0xb000 [0xb007]. I/O at 0xb400 [0xb403]. I/O at 0xb800 [0xb807]. I/O at 0xbc00 [0xbc03]. I/O at 0xc000 [0xc0ff]. Manually modprobing/adding to /etc/modules hpt366 results in it getting loaded with no apparent errors, but otherwise doesn't seem to help. The 2 'normal' ide channels still work and the system as far as I can tell has no other problems. Any ideas? Is it related to Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Though that poster didn't seem to get any answers as well. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Copying Text from a command prompt...No GUI Involved, and then X-windows issue
csj wrote: On 2. September 2004 at 1:19PM +, Will Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an X-Windows configuration issue, and it was suggested on IRC that I post the error log onto the mailing list for others to look at, and perhaps to solve my problem. The question is how do I do this on a strictly command prompt basis? Remember I have NO GUI, so I cannot do the normal highlight with the mouse and paste into window deal. Any advice? TIA!! Install gpm. Highlight with the mouse, open your text editor in another in another tty (ALT+F#) and paste. This will only work if the error message isn't too long. Just to point out the obvious, if all he wants is the X error log, it is saved to /var/log/XFree86.# ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
Abdullah Ramazanoglu wrote: It's my first post here, and I'm having hard time trying to underderstand why linux.debian.* is being run as mailing list in the first place. I have no problems with moderation and revealing my mail address (it's my spam collector anyway). But SMTP is for mail, NNTP is for threaded discussions. I had once subscribed to several lists, and seeing how awfully inefficient it is for such things, I had summarily stopped all my list subscriptions, and I will not subscribe to a single list anymore, no matter what, as a principle. Using mail as a vehicle for threaded discussion, seems to me only good for a tightly knit closed group. I can't understand why a public, usenet-mirrored group should be implemented as a mail list. For added gatewaying complexities? To download all the message bodies that I wouldn't read? Personally, I never liked the latency inherent in usenet. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
OT Re: First general purpose unmoderated newsgroup for Debian
Paul Johnson wrote: #secure method=pgp mode=sign Travis Crump [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally, I never liked the latency inherent in usenet. These days, it's about the same latency as email unless you're in some far-off corner of the planet connected only via carrier pigeon or something equally obscure. I don't mean the latency of posting-post appearing, I mean the latency of clicking a subject and seeing the body. For e-mail the latency is roughly equal to a hard drive access since fetchmail fetches my mail in the background. For usenet, it is equal to a network access as the body needs to be fetched from a usenet server. I suppose that you could pre-fetch all the bodies, but that would negate one of the 'benefits' that the post I was reponding to mentioned. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Questions about aptitude use
Paul E Condon wrote: I have set up preferences to track testing, and have unstable available for use. I think I now see pachages from both sarge and sid on the aptitude interactive screen. Am I right, or am I dreaming? Is there a way to tell which release a pachage will come from if I markit for install on the interactive screen? Or which version # is sid? If you mark it for install on the interactive screen it should choose the sarge/testing version. Assuming that you don't have additional sources like experimental, the sid version # should always just be the highest version number. I agree that it can be confusing at times. With sarge/unstable/experimental/installed there can be up to 4 versions, while if there is only one it doesn't imply that it is actually a sarge version[it can either mean sarge=unstable or there is no sarge version]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: question on pinning priorities
martin f krafft wrote: folks, i am too tired tonight to set up a testing environment for this. plus, it's friday. so maybe someone Just Knows(tm). if stable is pinned at 900 and testing at 500, and i manually pull in foo from testing and then a new version of foo hits testing, what happens? what about when testing is it 99 (and thus below 100)? thanks for your input. If testing is pinned to 500 and foo has a 'current pin' of 100[since foo's installed version is no longer in any archive it just has the 'default' installed pin], new versionold version and 500100 so it gets upgraded. Whereas if testing is pinned to 99, 99100 and it sticks with the currently installed version. Of course you know that it is generally considered a bad idea to try to pin between stable and testing, especially at this point in the release cycle. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: junk on tty after x crash
Thomas Adam wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:12:52AM +0200, Andrej Hocevar wrote: Hello, this is very disturbing -- when my X server doesn't shut down smoothly, it leaves some junk behind on the tty it was running on. The result is that next time I startx, it doesn't use the same tty anymore. What can I do to get rid of this annoying problem? I'm not sure what the problem is here. If you mean you want to surpress the output that startx produces, do: startx /dev/null 21 If you'd rather keep it for later: startx ~/.startx-output.log 21 Or am I not understanding your problem? -- Thomas Adam No, he means that junk is left behind on tty7 so that the next time he starts X, X uses tty8. It happens to me occasionally, but not consistently. I've always attributed it to the fact that the nvidia drivers are crap, shrugged my shoulders and moved on. Don't really know though. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: building or obtaining debian non-free CDs ?
B Thomas wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 07:52:34AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: You might mean non-us ?, not non-free as non-free is a part of woody. Using jigdo you can get non-us, disk one : http://us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r2/jigdo/i386/ -- Greg C. Madden non-free part of woody ?? I don't see this. I have the 6 + 1(update) Cds distribution of woody and it does not have any of the non-free packages that I use like gap or scilab etc etc. And these are the ones that are provided with source code too but alas under gpl incompatible conditions. Non-US cds are available with lot of vendors and at many mirrors. But not a single Non-Free CD. B Thomas Umm, a major reason for a package going into non-free is a prohibtion on commercial redistribution. It would probably be a major undertaking of a CD vendor to audit non-free to determine what they can actually distribute. Given the 'margins' on CD sales, it is simply not worth it for them. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: All these open ports
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If a port is open, and associated with a program which isn't from a debian package and you don't believe you put it there yourself - its time to consider the possibility your machine has been compromised. Okay... that gives me an opening to try this again. At the risk of provoking the usual WELL GO RUN WINDOWS THEN!!! knee-jerk reaction, I will mention that the Gatesware-based firewall packages (like Zone Alarm) will detect *outgoing* connection attempts and query whether they are legitimate. There has been some dicsuscion on the net w/r/t the fact that apparently the later (per)versions of Gatesware have some trojans embedded in the OS, which will connect to Billsoft to report your social security number, sexual preference, etc. etc. - the point being that (allegedly) the commercial firewall products can't detect such attempts to phone home. In any case, I've as yet been unable to find any way of getting detection and authorization of outgoing requests with any of the Linux firewalls, or with IPtables - although I can hardly say that I've thoroughly done my homework - but I have asked here and there and thus far no one seems to know. The Paradigm seems to be that if it's something that got spawned on your machine, and is trying to connect outward, it by definition must be legitimate, so it gets granted a port, unless whatever port it is requesting is *already* explicitly blocked by iptables or whatever for some reason. So what are exactly are you worried about? A program uploading sensitive data to a random server? Well the easiest way for a program to do that is to invoke sendmail to e-mail the information to the server. In which case the program never attempts to open a port, your m-t-a does. Your m-t-a opening a port is the most normal thing in the world. Or if for some reason you don't have your m-t-a properly configured, it could invoke ssh or lynx or ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: select N random lines in a file
Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 02:35:14PM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: Hello all, I would like to write a script that will select N number of random lines in a file. Any suggestions on how to do this? Here's one that prints random lines of files, ensuring not to overshoot the known length of the number of lines in the file: sed -n $[ $RANDOM % $(wc -l $FILE) + 1 ],$[ $RANDOM % $(wc -l ./foo) + 1 ]p $FILE Where $FILE is the filename. If you want to control the number of lines it will print, change the values. :) -- Thomas Adam That only prints one line whenever the second range number is less than the first[which happens roughly half the time][ignoring the fact that ./foo should also be $FILE]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: List mail not coming to me either...
John Hasler wrote: I wonder if this might have something to do with ISPs beginning to implement SPF. I doubt it. I have been having intermittent problems as well and something like SPF would tend to be all or nothing. I also don't use a commercial ISP for incoming mail and would probably know if the admins decided to implement something like SPF[especially since it would cause all my own mail to bounce]. My guess is that it is just load issues on the box running the lists[murphy?], it has happened before.[ie for some reason it only gets partially through sending to the list of people on the lists, sometimes it gets to my name, sometimes it doesn't, hence the intermittent problems. For people at the end of the list, it will tend to never get to their names.] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: apt-get upgrade doesn't honor my rebuilded packages
Tong wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:23:05 +0200, Koos Vriezen wrote: ... CVS, I needed to recompile some c++ dependent packages like fam. ... Now if I do 'apt-get -s upgrade', I get ... so it wants to replace it again what I just build. How can I prevent this? What's puzzling me most is that this seems so a common thing to do, jet I can't find this issue in the apt-howto document. FYI, I used to get this same problem while compiling sources in RH. I just circumvented it by increasing the version number a bit, e.g., Current version of emacs is: emacs21_21.3+1-5 I'll make it emacs21_21.3+1-5.1 which was done easily with a script. I can't tell you how to do it in debian yet, because I'm new to Debian, and haven't been able to compile emacs (without modification) yet. The easiest way is to do 'dch -i comment'/'dch -v new-version comment' from the source directory[ie the directory that contains a debian subdirectory]. dch is from package devscripts. Alternatively, the package tools don't seem to mind if you just fudge the newest entry in debian/changelog's version up a little bit with any text editor. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: SHN tools ???
Michael D Schleif wrote: What are currently working sources.list entries for these packages? I have googled, and added these: deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable ./ This should have what you are looking for. I just added it yesterday and both shntools and xmms-shn show up. While looking for it, I noticed a news item on one of the sites stating that the brazil site is/will be [transiently?] down for a couple of weeks. The one problem that I had with it is that the libfaad2-0 used by it seems to provide different symbol thingies[the soname wasn't bumped when it should have been?, it uses a cvs release instead of the stable release that Christian uses] than Christian Marillat's site and consequently they are incompatible. But that shouldn't affect you if you are just looking for shn stuff[which I haven't used]. I want to find these, in particular: shntools xmms-shn What do you think? dpkg -l '*shn*' doesn't turn up anything for me either even though they are definately there. I haven't done a 'full' dselect update since adding it so that could be it[ie the errors you got could be stopping it before it gets to the point where it updates the database that dpkg -l uses]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: screen messing with tab completion and other annoyances
Jorge Santos wrote: Hello, I've searched for these but I can't find an answer: Screen, as configured by default, uses tab tab two switch windows, but this is annoying since it blocks tab completion for the shell and I can't find anything in the documentation about how to turn this off (or even that this binding exists). Huh? Screen by default uses Ctrl-aCtrl-a to switch windows[at least in english/C] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to specify configuration priority level when install pkgs via apt-get
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Tong: You can specify priority level for the configuration questions when doing dpkg-reconfig. How can you specify priority level for the configuration questions when installing via apt-get install pkgs? man dpkg-reconfigure The man command can answer a lot of your questions for you, and if it doesn't, it will at least let you ask better questions. In this instance, you're looking for dpkg-reconfigure -plow where -p is like --priority, and low is the value passed to it. If you are going to give someone a RTFM, at least RTFQ, he knew that and states his understanding of that in his first sentence. @OP: I think you want 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf'[its the second dialog] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion
Lukas Ruf wrote: As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily. Therefore, subversion was not affected today. It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar. Any further ideas? wbr, Lukas do a diff of /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/status-old. Assuming that you haven't done any additional installs you should be able to figure out what changed. If you have done additional installs/upgrades, there are additional old dpkg status files in /var/backups/[to diff between] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sarge security
Elimar Riesebieter wrote: On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 the mental interface of Paul Maser told: I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org. Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I need to edit it manually? echo deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free\ /etc/apt/sources.list This works only for stable which is woody at the moment. Don't expect security updates for testing (sarge yet), though. Ciao Elimar Due to the 'impending' release of Sarge, official security support will commence for testing next week[as per the announcement on [EMAIL PROTECTED] So feel free to expect security updates for testing in the near future. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?
Scarletdown wrote: I'm needing to get the qt libraries properly installed so I can install knewspost. In KPackage, I selected libqt3 and libqt3-mt, then clicked Install Marked. Thankfully, I also selected Test as well, because this is the output that I got from the test install... You already have the qt libraries properly installed, after all everything in KDE depends on them so how could you not[if you have KDE installed]. They are called libqt3c102-mt. libqt3 is the gcc2.95 version which isn't what you want. Take a step back, a better question is why are you having problems installing knewspost? Where did you get it[since it doesn't appear to be in debian]? What form is it in[source, rpm, deb]? What have you tried? What led you to the erroneous conclusion that you wanted to install libqt3? You appear to be running a sarge/sid mix, so take stable out of your sources.list at which point you will see that libqt3 doesn't even exist anymore. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Strange apt-get error
John Summerfield wrote: I would guess that the packages are unsigned (??) or failed their md5sum check. Or rather the Release file is unsigned. I would do one of two things: a. File a bug report on it. This is an excellent way of ensuring the maintainer(s) know about it and is in line with Debian's policy of no secrets b. Ask the maintainer what's going on. Chris Metcalf wrote: I've been getting the strangest error from apt-get lately: apt-get version: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/krezel# apt-get --version apt 0.6.25 for linux i386 compiled on Jun 9 2004 05:37:07 So you installed the experimental version. But experimental wasn't listed in your sources.list. Presumably this was intentional and you know how this happened. Do you have /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_unstable_Release.gpg and /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_unstable_Release files[or similar]? Can you manually verify that the signature is valid? Does 'apt-key list' list the appropriate archive signing keys? Curiously, even though I have invalid Release.gpg/Release pairs[the md5sums listed in the Release files don't match the Packages file they are supposed to correspond to[because they are 6 months older than the actual Packages files, this happens because I don't bother to apt-get update in my chroot, I just copy the lists over from my main install, but my main install has apt 0.5.26 so it doesn't fetch new Release/Release.gpg files], apt-get(0.6.25) doesn't give me any authentication warnings and installs just proceed normally. If I delete the Release.gpg files entirely, than I do start to get authentication warnings. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: repeated entries in /var/log/messages...
Mario Flores wrote: Hi: Since day 1 I installed debian, I see the following in the /var/log/messages: Jul 28 21:01:08 woody -- MARK -- Jul 28 21:21:08 woody -- MARK -- Jul 28 21:41:08 woody -- MARK -- and they repeat every single hour at the exact same intervals. Does anyone know what they mean and how can I stop them? I am running the stable release (woody). Thanks, Mario. It's so if your box crashes, you can pinpoint the time of the crash even if nothing (else) is being written to logs. Not sure why you care enough to want to stop them... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: bittorent on dialup
Paul Johnson wrote: csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A number of media files I want to download are available only on bittorrent format. I know about the advantages of bittorrent for broadband users with underutilized bandwidth. But I'm on dialup. My bandwidth gets saturated with a simple wget -c linux.iso (a 52K modem that feels more like 45K). So are there any disadvantages to using bittorent with a plain dialup line? You will never finish the download. Your connection is too slow. I routinely finish 200M-350M bittorrent downloads over dialup plus a 700M knoppix bittorrent download once. Granted it took a while, but as long as the torrent is popular enough that it will be available for a while it is doable. The biggest problems I've run into is that it saturates your connection much more 'effectively' than normal downloads, it sometimes dies when you lose your connection and needs to be restarted[which in turn will cause you to 'lose' a couple of megs since partial 'pieces' don't seem to resume], and your download rate will be about half that of a normal download[at best]. But if it is your only source for the file... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Ugly firefox icon
David P James wrote: On Wed 7 July 2004 01:26, Jamin W. Collins wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:21:43PM -0300, Toshiro wrote: I'm using sid and I noticed that instead of the fine firefox default icon (the fox around the globe) I have a really ugly blue globe; am I the only one with this icon or is it part of debian? Anybody know how to get the original icon back? Short answer is you can't get the official icons in a non-official package. That is anything not packaged directly by the Firefox team. Yes, another consequence of Mozilla.org and especially Firefox's newfound focus on Windows users. Since Microsoft is unlikely to distribute a copy of Firefox (much less modify it) with Windows, the notion of others distributing it, as Debian and other Linux distributions do, is largely below the radar of those in charge. I believe the maintainer tried to secure permission to use the icon but couldn't. He was lucky to be able to use the name Firefox from what I recall. I doubt he tried very hard since even if mozilla.org granted Debian permission to use it, the permission would likely be non-transferable and consequently not DFSG-free. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mozilla/Firefox PostScript/default security problems
Brad Sims wrote: On Tuesday 06 July 2004 2:32 am, Michael B Allen wrote: What! The PostScript/default printing was pretty bad but I'm a little surprised they dumped it entirely as it would require additional setup to get xprint running. Are you sure? I am, I was told that mozilla no longer supports direct printing, and the lack of postscript wasn't a bug and they closed my bugreport. Upstream still supports directs printing, at least as of Sunday. It may be that you can't enable both direct printing and xprint at the same time, and so the debian maintainer had to make a choice as to which is more useful. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: postscript-enabled mozilla package anyone?
Gregory Seidman wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 12:30:48AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: } On (06/07/04 17:26), Brad Sims wrote: } On Tuesday 06 July 2004 1:07 pm, Thomas Winischhofer wrote: } Since I am not willing to configure my printers a third time with that } crappy Xprint stuff (why the heck do we have CUPS including easy setup, } PPD support, KDE/GNOME integration, etc etc etc etc), does anyone } provide postscript-enabled xprint-disabled mozilla packages? } } Well in ppc xprint is broken (it crashes both Mozilla and Firefox) - I } ended up removing both packages and installing Firefox 0.8-8 which } prints postscript through cups and just works ;) If xprint is broken, that's bad. However... [...] } configuring xprint seems to be a major project/hack. [...] ...I installed xprt-xprintorg with no difficulty. I then attempted to print and, with absolutely no configuration on my part, it happily found my CUPS printers. Furthermore, it still has a file output option which produces Postscript. I think people are overreacting a bit here. Then you are lucky. I tried it out, and it printed out 1/4 size in the top left quarter of the page. Hmm, that's not good. So I opened up print properties and noticed that the paper size was set to something wierd instead of /etc/papersize. And all the paper sizes were in mm for some reason, so I fired up a calculator and figured out that I wanted na-letter and tried to keep it from randomly resetting itself to iso-a4, but it still printed out 1/4 size. So I fired up querybts, and found a pointer to a FAQ which said that I was using the wrong DPI which didn't make sense to me, but apparently changing the DPI to 600 in /etc/Xprint/C/print/attributes/document would fix the problem[a hack]. My other choice was to write a model_config for my printer that specified that it only liked 600 DPI[a major project]. So I don't think people are overreacting too much. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Copyright/License of Debian Constitution
John Hasler wrote: Dwayne C. Litzenberger writes: I'm not sure if this is the right list to ask on, but what's the copyright/license status of the Debian Constitution? http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution I'm heading up changes to the constitution of a local non-profit member organization, and I want to adapt the Standard Resolution Procedure for our purposes. The procedure is an idea and so not protected by copyright. Just reword it. a) Go try and 'reword' a book and try to pass it off as your own. b) It is a legal document and consequently not necessarily trivial to reword in much the same way that it is generally discouraged for people to try to 'reword' the GPL into their own license. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
sarge release vote
For those that don't know, Option 2, postpone editorial changes to Social Contract until after Sarge releases, won the vote so hopefully Sarge's release can start to move forward again and happen in the not too distant future. :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Other key combos for Multi_key
Kai Grossjohann wrote: Currently, I can type the ä character like this: Multi_key a Multi_key a I would like to configure an additional combination: Multi_key a e How to do that? (I know that the above combo produces æ, but I intend to configure more combinations so that I can still produce æ.) Kai You can try editing /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale/Compose, but I must admit that I did try this once and was unsuccessful in getting it to do anything. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Another testing vs unstable question
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-06-23, John Summerfield penned: I have been to www.apt-get.org and I got Mozilla from here, pine from there, KDE from somewhere else, Xfree from another... Do you get the picture? Well, just to be pedantic, you wouldn't find pine anywhere in debian because of its licensing terms. Not sure how pedantic you are being, but you do know that pine is available in non-free which while not part of Debian proper is hosted on the debian mirrors? apt-get source pine ... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Another testing vs unstable question
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-06-23, Travis Crump penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-06-23, John Summerfield penned: I have been to www.apt-get.org and I got Mozilla from here, pine from there, KDE from somewhere else, Xfree from another... Do you get the picture? Well, just to be pedantic, you wouldn't find pine anywhere in debian because of its licensing terms. Not sure how pedantic you are being, but you do know that pine is available in non-free which while not part of Debian proper is hosted on the debian mirrors? apt-get source pine ... Now I'm confused. A search through packages.debian.org turns up gpg4pine and pine-docs, not to mention something called pine-tracker that appears to be a way to check your installed version of pine against the official version ... but no pine. gpg4pine is in contrib; pine-docs and pine-tracker are in non-free. I see no pine here; can you help me find it? apt-get source pine Binaries aren't available due to the license but the source is from non-free from which you can easily build your own deb to install. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Another testing vs unstable question
David Fokkema wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:22:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:16, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in unstable simply would not run ... How does one recover from something like this short of doing a reload? Don't run KDE for a week or so until it's fixed? Downgrade to the version in Testing, which will still work? I mean, you DO know how to do both of those things from the command line, right? And how to get to the command line when X won't work? Otherwise, really, you shouldn't use Unstable. Certainly I can turn off KDE; cripples KDevelop which is needed, but can be done easily. As to downgrading, I've read answers to several questions saying that can't be done with apt. Unless those answers were wrong, no, I don't know how to - short of a reload. You can downgrade with apt, that's no problem at all! What you _can't_ do, is downgrading _all_ packages to the version numbers available in testing. If you downgrade, you have to specify things like apt-get install gs=7.07-1 Doing that for hundreds of packages is no fun. Not exactly, if you put: Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 1001 in /etc/apt/preferences, and do an apt-get dist-upgrade, apt will happily /try/ to downgrade every package to its testing version[alternatively adding that to /etc/apt/preferences will let you do apt-get install testing-package without needing the version number]. It just isn't guaranteed to work, and isn't considered a bug if it doesn't. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
swap partition crashed
I managed to crash my swap partition[kernel error attached if you care], is there any way to get it back[without rebooting]. The only thing I can think of is to re-run mkswap on the partition, but that instinctively seems dangerous. swapoff -a or swapoff /dev/hda7[the partition in question] does nothing. swapon /dev/hda7 errors out saying that the resource/device is busy. cat /proc/swaps gives: FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda7 partition 683384 20200 -1 /scratch/swap file531992 4396-2 where /scratch/swap is just a temporary solution[that should 'work' indefinitely], and free gives: total used freesharedbuffers cached Mem: 904540 895620 8920 0 52212 397228 -/+ buffers/cache: 446180 458360 Swap: 552192 24596 527596 so the busted swap partition is definitely not being used[though as you can also see the machine does have plenty of RAM]. Any ideas? Is it a problem that my working swap file has a lower priority than the busted partition? Or should I just wait until I reboot anyway and not worry about it. Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: kernel BUG at page_alloc.c:109! Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: invalid operand: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: CPU:0 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: EIP:0010:[__free_pages_ok+114/656]Tainted: P Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00013202 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: eax: 0109 ebx: c188ff40 ecx: edx: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: esi: 00747900 edi: ebp: 00a3 esp: f67cfec8 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Process XFree86 (pid: 12353, stackpage=f67cf000) Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Stack: c02bcd20 c01370cc c02bcd20 7479 00747900 c188ff40 c0136d1d c02bcd20 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel:df8858c0 00747900 c188ff40 00a3 c013734b c188ff40 00747900 001b1000 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel:ecc01e90 0020d000 c012bc4d 00747900 00b0 0001 f67ce000 0840 Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Call Trace:[swap_free+44/80] [delete_from_swap_cache+77/112] [free_swap_and_cache+139/192] [zap_pte_range+253/261] [zap_page_range+139/240] Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: [exit_mmap+175/304] [mmput+71/176] [do_exit+127/624] [sys_exit+19/32] [system_call+51/56] Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Jun 15 01:50:18 localhost kernel: Code: 0f 0b 6d 00 ca 25 23 c0 8b 43 18 a9 80 00 00 00 74 08 0f 0b signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: hardware change
Alex Lorca wrote: hi all i'm going to change some hardware in my computer (motherboard and video card)... do i need to reinstall the whole system?? in this case how can i save my configuration??? i need to install the same system in other computer too, how can i copy the same configuration of mine to this computer?? i read in the reference how to save the package list but wath about the files i had modified in /etc ??? thanks You shouldn't need to re-install. I changed motherboard/video card[Athlon-thunderbird-Athlon-XP, NVIDIA-NVIDIA] on my computer and it booted up fine without having to do anything else. If you are making a more drastic change[Athlon-Intel], I think all you have to worry about is the kernel[just install a kernel appropriate for the new setup prior to switch, or install a generic kernel]. Nothing userland should be affected except for optimized stuff[pretty much nothing in the archive is optimized[all I can think of is mplayer which isn't really in the archive], so only self-compiled stuff do you need to watch out for]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ccing
S.D.A. wrote: There are some cool tools available for archiving, that (as far as I know) won't work with Thunderbird mail. I can search my '*.tar.gz' archives, at the same time as searching the active ones, via mboxgrep. So yes, Mutt is definitely the superior tool, as far as I'm concerned. Umm, why wouldn't mboxgrep work with Thunderbird[which uses pretty much standard mbox files]? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: apt dependency problems
Lee Hanxue wrote: This seems similar to a problem I ran into on a server that I installed here and (without thinking) set the noexec option on /var. You might try and see if that is the problem. Thanks a million! I checked /etc/fstab, and I found out I did not set the 'exec' option for the /var partition after I move it. I did not set 'noexec' though. After adding the 'exec' option, everything works perfectly :) By the way, will mount use the 'noexec' option by default? Hanxue 'user' implies noexec, otherwise exec is the default. If var does have 'user', I'd just remove it[so the options' field is just 'defaults'], there is no reason for it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: fun Re: Copy Linux Filesystem/Check/Compare Filesystems
Alvin Oga wrote: On Fri, 21 May 2004, Silvan wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2004 07:20 pm, Doug MacFarlane wrote: .. Any suggestions? Just exactly how would one tar one filesystem to another, without the intermediate tar file? mount /new-disk /mnt/new -- abort -- abort if failed tar cf - /home /var /whatever-you-want | ( cd /mnt/new ; tar xvfp - ) umount /mnt/new - you can figure out what directories to cp over and which ones yu don't touch ( /tmp, /mnt, /proc .. ) if ! (mount /mnt/backup); then echo ERROR! Could not mount /mnt/backup! echo Abort, abort, abort!!! exit 1 fi good to manually mount backups ... :-) rsync -uax --delete / /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /boot /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /var /mnt/backup/ rsync -uax --delete /home /mnt/backup/ wouldn't the first rysnc of / backup everything including /boot, /var... - and worst still, rsycing of /tmp and /proc is a very bad idea which means you manually list all the directories you do want rysnc to the other box and i dont like --deletes, just in case i delete a directory/file and a week later, i decide, oh shit, wish i had that file from last week or last year and nope, i dont use rsync ... except to d/l and [r]sync other peoples stuff like kernel.org locally c ya alvin man rsync: -x, --one-file-system don't cross filesystem boundaries signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Archives of prior testing/unstable packages?
Karsten M. Self wrote: I thought these were at archives.debian.org, that site's down. Or was it somewhere else? Desperately seeking the last best Galeon 1.2.x release. Peace. snapshot.debian.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Size of default partition with d-i beta3
Brent Bailey wrote: On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 17:26, richard lyons wrote: On Friday 21 May 2004 16:52, Brent Bailey wrote: A couple of weeks ago I installed debian sarge with d-i beta3. I kept with the default partition sizes given with the multi-user set-up, which set up / with 135468 K on a 80G drive. Now / is full, and every other partition is hardly used. I can't mount a cdrom to burn a copy of my files from home that I need. All partitions are ext3. Is there a way to add more space to / (preferably from /home) without having to re-format both partitions? What is your present partitioning scheme? What do df and mount say? df: /dev/sda1 135468134724 0 100% / tmpfs 452892 0452892 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda5 4807056 1533208 3029664 34% /usr /dev/sda6 2885780863160 1876032 32% /var /dev/sda715022 1060 13161 8% /tmp /dev/sda8 68571736 5397808 59690636 9% /home That seems a perfectly reasonable scheme to me. You might want to double check that something isn't on the root partition that shouldn't be['du -m --max-depth=3 -x / | sort -n']. /root should be almost empty, /opt shouldn't be on the root partition if you are using it[putting it on the /usr partition is one idea], and nothing should take up a lot of space on /etc. The exception to this last point is /etc/gconf, but I consider that a bug[which is already reported #227726, but the reporter is off by an order of magnitude[/etc/gconf/ is *19MB* for me, I also question the need for /etc/X11 to be 15MB, mostly due to /etc/X11/xserver/C/print/models/PSdefault/fonts/]]. There also isn't much point in having more than 2 kernels on the system. Don't get me wrong, it is possible for / to legitimately need more than 130MB[and if you really aren't using the space elsewhere than you might as well make it bigger], it's just that my / is only 95MB, and I've seen posts from other people to suggest that that is on the high end. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Version specific notes for debs
Randy Orrison wrote: Keith Nasman wrote: I was thinking it would be really nice if it also showed some package notes for this particular build. This would be of particular interest for security patches. i.e. This build incorporates bigfixes fixing vulnerability blah. See insert CVE/DSA link here for more info. Or, it could even list out the fixes incorporated from the BTS. In a desktop setting I could see having a bug watchlist and then if aptitude could check that, it could bring it to the users attention. apt-listchanges isn't exactly what you want, but the closest I know of. Once you've told aptitude to install the packages, apt-listchanges will show all the relevant changelog entries and ask if you want to proceed. Randy Additionally, if you highlight a package in aptitude and hit 'C', it will download/display the changelog for that package. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: can dvdrip copy DVD
Ben Edwards (lists) wrote: Have got a DVD burner and can burn data projects fine. Now I want to start investigating DVD, so I thought I would start by simply trying to copy a DVD. I installed dvdrip and managed to rip the DVD to the hard drive. But cant work oput what I need to do next. Surley you dont have to transcode if you are simply doing a copy. I also tried doing it on the fly but it seems to still want me to transcode. So I guess what I am looking for is a simple dvdrip howto for copying DVD. Ben A DVD-R is single layer while a DVD is double layer[ie has twice the capacity] so a complete copy is obviously impossible. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Apt error
Tomy Alarie wrote: To the tune of a Sesame Street song: One of these things is not like the others! Look at your last line. Notice how all the other lines have stuff after the url. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to figure out what the stuff after the url on that last line should be. -- monique Thanks ! ;) Great help ! No, really, do someone have any ideas ? If you have no idea, try ' ./' at the end of the last line... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mozilla and local mail
Keith O'Connell wrote: Hi, I want to try out Mozilla as a web and email solution, but I also want to keep fetchmail to call together all my mail, local and external and then have Mozilla get the mail from /var/spool/mail. I have trawled throuh the results of a google search and the soultion appears to be a program called movemail I find that movemail is not on my machine, nor does it form part of the sarge distribution. That being the case, how is this done on a Debian Testing machine? Can it be done? If so how Keith. movemail is internally implemented in Mozilla, just set up an e-mail account normally using localhost as the server. Then go into about:config, scroll down to mail.server.server#.type[figure out # by looked at the other values associated with the servers] and change the value to 'movemail'. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: keep users alert to packages deleted from debian
Brian Nelson wrote: I would venture to say that only 'apt-get source' is useful. Don't forget 'apt-get build-dep' and 'apt-get moo'... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Goodbye stable?
Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote: Were the gaps between releases ever so large as the gap between woody and sarge? Alexis Wolfgang Potato=8/14/2000, Woody=7/19/2002: Debian has three more months before it matches the last gap... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Some sox questions.
Adam Funk wrote: On Wednesday 24 March 2004 07:40, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 11:23:03AM +, Adam Funk said (I'm running sox 12.17.4 on Debian testing.) sox -h and the man page suggest mp3 support, but $ sox foo.wav foo.mp3 sox: Sorry, no MP3 encoding support produces nothing (actually an empty file), although $ sox foo1.mp3 foo1.wav sox: Do not support MPEG audio (layer I, III or III) with 16-bit data. Forcing to Signed. produces a wav file. I assume this is because of licensing issues with the MP3 encoding algorithm, right? Yes, Debian contains no mp3 encoding code. You can get packages of So how is it that the Debian-packaged normalize works on MP3s? It must encode as well as decode them since it modifies the MP3 file. (Curiously, it doesn't support Ogg-Vorbis!) Ogg Vorbis has vorbisgain which does the same thing as normalize and I know that vorbisgain doesn't do any reencoding, it just adds meta-data to the file that players use to adjust the volume. Indeed I would go so far as to say that reencoding would be a very retarded way of going about it since both mp3 and ogg are lossy formats, but anything is possible[I don't know how normalize works]. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: no audio cd play from CD writer
Simmel wrote: Yes, I didn't check that. But does that also explain why I cannot get the tracks listings in xmms or in the cd play application? -HS Nope, seems I missed that line, sorry :/ No if the cable is defective or missing only no sound is provided, but you should be able to see the tracks and should be able to play the traxxx, without being able to hear them. Greets, Simmel Playing around a bit, what you want to do is as follows: Go into Preferences[Ctrl-P], and then under Audio I/O Plugins click on 'CD Audio Player' and go to 'Configure'. Once there, select add drive and use the details that you use for fstab for device/directory. Since it doesn't have an audio cable, you'll want to select 'Digital Audio Extraction'. Now selecting the cdrw mount point works the same as selecting /cdrom does for the other drive. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: no audio cd play from CD writer
H. S. wrote: Hi, I have a CDROM and a CD writer on my Sarge system. Both are ATAPI (no scsi emulation). I installed Sarge only a few weeks ago. A little problem is bugging me, I can't play any audio CD from the writer(/dev/hdd). The CD plays fine from the CDROM(/dev/hdc). Any idea where I start debugging? BTW, cdrecord sees both. readcd works on both. eject works on both. Filesytems CD's can be mounted on both. ONly the xmms cannot see tracks on the CD when it is in the cdwriter. thanks, -HS You need to install xmms-cdread. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Question re Debian versions
Michael Satterwhite wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. I'm sure I'm missing something here. I would expect that the Testing version becomes more unstable after the current Sid becomes the Testing version (which is why I wouldn't update from Sarge to ??? for a few months). Just to clarify, this never happens. The same progression rules from sid-testing that occur now are always in effect. There is never a day when every package in sid gets into testing. When sarge releases, it will be identical to testing for a day or two and then testing will slowly change. But are you *REALLY* saying that the new Testing version will be more unstable than the new Unstable version?? Something seems wrong with that picture. I use testing and am perfectly happy with it. It does require a certain degree of acumen to know when to pull certain packages from unstable and when to sit tight and not do anything, but you get used to it[ie late last year I had GNOME on hold for a long time until the 1.4-2.x transition finished]. In my experience, testing breaks in one of two ways: Something is uninstallable because dependencies are screwy, because something was forced into testing ora package has been removed from testing. Once you have everything installed, this can't be a problem since an installed package by definition can't be uninstallable. A corollary to this is that an upgrade will try to remove packages, so don't do the upgrade. In other words you are given ample warning of the 'breakage'. The other problem is security and other 'critical' fixes, well worst comes to worst you can always grab the packages from unstable[either recompile/or install the unstable dependencies as well] so in this regard testing can't be worse than unstable. Unstable, on the other hand, breaks much more spectacularly on package installation with no warning other than people moaning on the lists/IRC/BTS. I don't want to imply that this is a frequent occurence, but it does happen... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: What's the tool to set /ect/rc.* links?
stan wrote: I've forgoten what the tool to set the startup links in teh /etc/rc.* directories is. I was thinking it was update_rc, but that doesn't seem to exist. Can someone refersh my memory? man -k seesm to be failing me here. 'mv', though you can use update-rc.d for local scripts. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: what user for /etc/cron.weekly?
Monique Y. Herman wrote: When entries in /etc/cron.weekly are run, what user/group are they run as? Whatever user it says in /etc/crontab. On mine it is root. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: what user for /etc/cron.weekly?
Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On 2004-03-15, Travis Crump penned:
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Monique Y. Herman wrote:
When entries in /etc/cron.weekly are run, what user/group are they
run as?
Whatever user it says in /etc/crontab. On mine it is root.
Odd. I'm getting an error running popularity-contest because it says it
doesn't have permission to run dpkg. According to /etc/crontab, it's
running as root, and root certainly does have permission to run dpkg!
Additionally, popularity-contest only uses dpkg for dpkg-query --show
--showformat='\${status} \${package}\\n'| which should even work as a
normal user. Indeed, the only reason it[pop-con] appears to need to run
as root is to write to /var/log/popularity-contest*[why not
/var/(lib|cache)/popularity-contest/?], but I could be wrong.
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Re: stretching movies in mplayer
Micha Feigin wrote: Is it possible to change the aspect ratio (stretch) a movie in mplayer in full screen mode? I have some movies that were in wide screen format and in the encoding where stretched to a bad aspect ratio and I would rather no re-sample the already sample movie which would degrade the quality, but rescale at play time. You could always convert the format to mkv which doesn't re-sample the actual tracks, but does allow you to add meta-data to the format to tell the player what aspect ratio to use. debs for mkvtoolnix are available at[sources.list entry]: deb http://www.bunkus.org/debian/unstable/ ./ Just install mkvtoolnix and then you can do 'mkvmerge -o output.mkv --aspect-ratio video track(probably 0):aspect-ratio original.avi'. The man-page is pretty good. Alternatively, 'mplayer -aspect aspect-ratio original.avi' should work, but then you would have to remember to do that every time you watched the file. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring
Oliver Fuchs wrote: On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote: Check the manpage. The f switch is used to tell tar that the next parameter is the file to use: tar cvzf test.tar.gz / Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it. Yes, that is right ... my fault. By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong. Try: cd / tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz . cd /somewhere tar tvzf test.tgz Note the . btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root filesystem. man tar to find out how not to do that. Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the problem. What I do not understand is: I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems. But ... trying to do tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message. From my tests that error doesn't appear to be fatal and can be ignored. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: CPU-intensive periodic processes, e.g. xscreensaver-gl
Nano Nano wrote: [1] 230 mhz bus, 14% increase. Kernel compile time went from 6:11 to 5:20, a 14% increase. It's worth the trouble. So, you have a 14% performance boost, but you can only use it 75% of the time. 1.14*0.75=86%... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: window managers with maximize-vertical?
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 10:42:17PM -0500, Johann Koenig wrote: Enlightenment. Right click to maximize vertically, middle click to maximize horizontally. Have not used with Gnome, so I can't comment. Enlightenment v17 CVS will, as it supports EWMH. You can forget about E v16. Enlightenment v16 works fine for me with Gnome, though I probably don't use all the features of Gnome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord priority
Alf Werder wrote: On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 17:46, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On 2004-02-04, Gustavo Halperin penned: Hello List When I roast some CD with 'xcdroast' (or any other application), I can also do it another thinks in the computer. But if I call to the command 'cdrecor' (also I did it with the same options like xcdroast) in the command line the 'cdrecord' take almost the recourses of the computer. Is any way to call to 'cdrecord' and do it another think in the computer in the same time??? I think what you want to look into is the 'nice' command, which allows you to lower an application's priority. I don't think so. cdrecord uses the real time scheduling class. A process belonging to this class gets as much cpu time, as it demands. This is cdrecords strategy to avoid buffer underruns. Maybe you can turn this feature off somehow. What you can do is run cdrecord with less privileges. Only root is allowed to put processes into the real time scheduling class. -alf I think this is a red herring. Though only burning at 12x, cdrecord takes up less than 1% of the cpu on my system so unless OP's burner is two orders of magnitude faster...[though even then I have a feeling it still wouldn't use appreciable cpu]. OP: are you really just doing 'cdrecord dev=0,0,0 some.iso' or are you trying to do something like 'mkisofs ... | cdrecord dev=0,0,0'. mkisofs does use a significant amount of cpu[though it still doesn't peg my system], and you may have better results by making an iso image in a seperate step. This also has the added benefit of allowing you to mount the iso before you burn it to double check that it is correct. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: sarge to stable?
Simon Buchanan wrote: Does anyone know what the timeframes are for debian testing to become stable? http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200308/msg00010.html ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] tuxracer + bunny hill: possible?
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi! Latest thread on games prompted me to install tuxracer. I never play games, pure programming. Now I cannot get past bunny hill. Is it possible to get all 23 herrings and yet do it under 35 secs? Why did I ever start tuxracer? Hugo. Yes. The up arrow makes you go faster until you reach about 55km/h and then it slows you down. Rocking back and forth with the left and right arrows also speeds you up, but shouldn't make a difference in breaking 35 seconds. My time is usually about 25-26s. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fwd: Preliminary investigation were started]
Wayne Topa wrote: Richard Lyons([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: On Friday 16 January 2004 22:23, Wayne Topa wrote: [...] I have a mailfilter rule that deletes mail without an originating Message-ID: and it has not had a false positive in over 3 months now. [...] Would you care to share with those like me who can't immediately see how to do it how exactly is that filter set up? ^Message-Id:.*smtp[0-9]\.your\.isp It is easy if you can find a spam message with your ISP in the Message-Id: header. ie egrep ^Message-Id:.*\.your\.isp logs/mailfilterlog Note that my ISP, capital.net, is NOT what I found in the Message-ID. It was their smtp server address and it varied, so I had to write the rule accordingly. :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-) Wayne That rule would match roughly one third of my legitimate non-list mail...[and only one fifth of my spam by comparison] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-cache show (only newest package)
Bill Moseley wrote: This laptop was installed as a Woody, then it went through testing and now unstable. I've got sources for all in sources.list. So, when I do $ apt-cache show foo I see more than one foo package. Can I use apt-cache to just show the most current package -- or really, the package that would get installed with apt-get install foo? I hope this flu didn't make me miss something really obvious in the man page for apt-cache. Thanks, Not exactly apt-cache, but, if you install grep-dctrl, 'grep-available -PX foo' should give you the output that you want. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-check-sigs problem (plz cc adambarton@mac.com)
Adam Barton wrote: Adam Barton wrote: [SNIP] If I manually verify ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/Release Release.gpg I get the following: blueboy:~# gpg --verify ./Release.gpg ./Release gpg: Signature made Thu Nov 20 19:57:33 2003 CET using DSA key ID 38C6029A gpg: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2003) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could not find a valid trust path to the key. Let's see whether we can assign some missing owner trust values. No path leading to one of our keys found. gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. gpg: Fingerprint: EB2F A2AF 170D 2359 26A7 7BF3 B629 A24C 38C6 029A gpg: Signature made Wed Dec 31 17:26:06 2003 CET using DSA key ID 30B34DD5 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found blueboy:~# blueboy:~# Reimporting the 'latest' () key I notice that the key IDs are different blueboy:~# gpg --import ./ziyi_key_2003.asc gpg: key 38C6029A: public key imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: imported: 1 blueboy:~# So I guess I don't have an up to date ziyi public key. Can anyone confirm this for me... and if I am correct, when can I find the key with ID 30B34DD5? Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone actually used apt-check-sigs at all, or do you simply 'dist-upgrade' without it? Perhaps a more useful question in my case would be is anyone using apt-check-sigs successfully with ftp://ftp.debian.org/ dists/stable in their sources.list ? If so, what keys are you using? Kind regards, Adam Barton. Pretzalz:/# apt-key list /etc/apt/trusted.gpg pub 1024D/30B34DD5 2003-12-03 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2003 v2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pub 1024D/38C6029A 2002-12-20 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2003) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 30B34DD5 was created after the compromise and shouldn't be hard to find on any major keyring. 38C6029A is considered unsecure because of the compromise, but I am not sure if it really is or they are just being safe. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: looking for apt.conf reference
GCS wrote: Hi. I am trying to fabricate a script, which runs as a _normal user_, checks my debs in a specified directory, and recursively download all of the dependencies. I can iterate on the packages and get the dependencies parsed from 'dpkg-deb -f package', but how can I download packages? I have thinking on something like: apt-get --download-only -o Dir::Cache::Archives=store install zsh But still, apt-get would like to place the lock in /var/lib/dpkg/, where I do not have write access. How can I change this? 'man 5 apt.conf' does not help what config option should I override, and I was unable to find a complete apt.conf reference. The best I have found is: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto But does not contains an apt.conf reference. Have a look at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz . I think you want -o Debug::NoLocking=on . pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: ISO and Image files-semantics problem
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: alex wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 09:46:47AM -0500, alex wrote: [snip] A downloaded ISO is an image. The installation CD is not an image _- ?? debian-30r1-i386-binary-1.iso debian-30r1-i386-binary-2.iso these are not images? Could you please clarify this? alex Nano Nano wrote that the installation CD is not an image. I use the 7 Debian CD's, the first two which I listed, of which any one is an installation CD (although I always install from #1). To me they appear to be images. So what does it mean when he says that the installation CD is not an image. Hugo. The installation CD itself is not an image it is a CD. The iso's used to burn the CD *are* images, but it would be silly to consider the burned CD to be an 'image' of 'itself?' The filenames you listed are images, they just aren't installation CDs... pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get dist-downgrade?
Ralf M. wrote: Hi! Stupid question for debian users here: is there an easy way to downgrade a distro from testing/sarge to stable/woody? The reason I ask is that a couple of weeks ago I performed a dist-upgrade on the Mac G3 running stable/woody. It was working just fine but I needed some packaged that were only available in testing unstable and the libc6 package was not compatible. So I went for testing by changing the apt-preferences and performed a dist-upgrade. Bad idea. Now the mac will randomly look dead when I try to access it in the morning -- no network access, nothing interactive session... I looks kind of random too, sometime it's up for a couple of days, sometimes more, sometimes less. I can't figure what is the source of the problem. So I'd like to revert the packages to stable/woody. I changed apt-preferences (pinned down testing) and did a dist-upgrade (dry run) and apt-get just tells me everything's fine, I have the latest packages... Pin stable to 1000 and then try a dist-upgrade. It should /try/ to work, but downgrading isn't really well-supported. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
