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1997-08-30 Thread bigt
I got a 486 machine that I have installed Debian 1.31 version on.  It
has a 3COM 3C905 tx PCI card in it.   The system does not recognize the
PCI card.  Do I need to get something and recompile the kernal in order
for linux to see the pci card?

Tony Koehn
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Praise the Lord it worked......

1997-07-07 Thread bigt

Well after weeks and days of trying I finally got this thing to
work..,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] your method of fixing this worked and was straight to
the point.  I do appreciate everyones efforts in helping me out with
this particular problem.

I have seen several comments posted about what the docs do and don't
say when installing.  This was one of those situations that the
documentation sayed nothing about.  It would be nice to have who ever
takes care of the web sites to at least post this particular problem
and solution there.

Once again,  Thanks for everyones help.

Tony Koehn
Our Town USA, Inc.
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DW>Ok, here is the problem:

DW>The current base disk has an older version of libc5 than the one in the
DW>archive. This makes a bare install have some of the same characteristics
DW>of an upgrade. There appears to be a problem with the ftp method in this
DW>reguard. I just did a fresh install, with the current archive, from CD and
DW>everything worked fine.

DW>The prescribed solution:

DW>Treat this like an upgrade. After you reboot and answer the
DW>password/account questions, dselect is started. Exit dselect with Q and
DW>set up an ftp session. Download the libc5 version from the archives and
DW>install it with dpkg -i. At this point you should be able to proceed with
DW>the dselect ftp install. As a precaution, I would suggest at least one
DW>other package be installed this way before you begin the dselect
DW>installation, that being the perl package. This package is partially
DW>represented on the base disks and under certain circumstances (possibly
DW>related to the ftp method in dselect) doesn't behave as well as when
DW>"fully" configured. There is also the slim possibility that dselect go
DW>"broken" in some fashion by the partial installation and subsequent
DW>failures. Re-installing it, after libc5, "by hand", will certainly not
DW>hurt, and it could be a potential help.

DW>In any case, some subset of the above approach should get you out of
DW>trouble. I'm not sure what the proceedure is to recover from a broken
DW>system like the one you get with the ftp method. It appears that the other
DW>advice that you got on that front was less than successful. Try a fresh
DW>install, one more time ;-), and follow the above proceedure. It should
DW>provide you with more success than the "advertised" approach you have been
DW>trying.


DW>On Sat, 5 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DW>> Well here we go again
DW>> 
DW>> A little background so some of you remember.
DW>> 
DW>> I installed debain 1.3 (7) times.  Have been having trouble getting
DW>> dselect to install files using the ftp access method.  I keep getting
DW>> this can't map /lib/libc message.
DW>> 
DW>> Well someone sugested that I type this
DW>> 
DW>> ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 libc.so
DW>> ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.4.33 libm.so
DW>> 
DW>> Well I did and I thought it was going to work... But I still get the
DW>> same error messages when using deselect.
DW>> 
DW>> Now I can install packages individually using dpkg -i   This
DW>> works fine and thats what I have been having to do.
DW>> 
DW>> So why do I get this error?  Is this going to happen everytime I want
DW>> to use dselect to upgrade??  Is this suppose to be this way?  I didn't
DW>> think so
DW>> 
DW>> I am at a loss still...  Any suggestions?  Shall I start over??  Could
DW>> it simply be the mother board?  I believe this is a HOT307 386
DW>> Motherboard with 8 megs ram.  
DW>> 
DW>> 
DW>> Tony
DW>> This email originated from ourtownusa.com.
DW>> 
DW>> 
DW>> 
DW>> 


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RE-COMPILING the Kernel...

1997-07-07 Thread bigt
Just so I know and have my ducks in order.

Is this the correct method for re-compiling my Kernel??

cd /usr/src/Linux
make config
make dep
make zImage
make zdisk
make zlilo

Is this correct?  Can someone explain briefly each step and why I have
to do this???  I just want to understand it more.


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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt

PA>If that is 2 meg total you need more. If it's 2 meg used, OK. I usually
PA>create a swap partition of 32mb or more. Often I create them at the max
PA>usable 128mb because I tend to really hammer the system with a lot of
PA>tasks.

PA>> The date on the floppy is 5-28-97 (looking at the rescue disk using
PA>> dos).

PA>That should be correct if they were all created from the same directory.

So your saying that I should acutally have a bigger swap...  I remember
when partitioning the HD I wondered about how much I should use.  I
don't recall seeing anything that suggested the swap partition size...  

Ok So its back to start over.  Or can I reduce the /usr partition
and add that to my swap partition with out effecting anything. 
Normally on DOS you can't do that...


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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt

IG>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 12:27:57 -0400
IG>From: Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



IG>did you type ldconfig (as root) after that?  That might be the problem.
IG>if that doesn't work, try reinstalling dpkg with dpkg -i (it includes dselec

IG>HTH.

Yes I did.  I did find dpkg-dev and installed that one using dpkg -i
method.  Heres what I get now using dselect...

Processing Status file...

Processing Package files...
  stable...
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't map 'lib/libc.so.5'
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't map 'lib/libc.so.5'
/usr/bin/dpkg: can't load libary 'libc.so.5'
dpkg--compare-verions 3.2 lt 3.2-failed with 16 at
/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp/install line 101,  chunk 235
Installation script returned error exit status 2

Thats all she does...
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Re: It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt


PA>I will be sending the 1.3.1 CD Monday. One of my machines is a 386DX40
PA>with 8 mb and a soundblaster 2x cd drive that is flaky under windows. I
PA>have a 540 mb IDE drive in it that I use just for testing and I have good
PA>results with it installing from my CD or from my network.

PA>What date were the floppy image files that you used? I can't see that this
PA>would be a hardware problem if dpkg -i works. Do you have an active swap
PA>partition? The free command will tell you. The df command will tell you
PA>about filesystem space.


Ok Paul,

Yes I do have an active swap, its 2 meg.

The date on the floppy is 5-28-97 (looking at the rescue disk using
dos).

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It still don't work......

1997-07-05 Thread bigt
Well here we go again

A little background so some of you remember.

I installed debain 1.3 (7) times.  Have been having trouble getting
dselect to install files using the ftp access method.  I keep getting
this can't map /lib/libc message.

Well someone sugested that I type this

ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 libc.so
ln -s /lib/libm.so.5.4.33 libm.so

Well I did and I thought it was going to work... But I still get the
same error messages when using deselect.

Now I can install packages individually using dpkg -i   This
works fine and thats what I have been having to do.

So why do I get this error?  Is this going to happen everytime I want
to use dselect to upgrade??  Is this suppose to be this way?  I didn't
think so

I am at a loss still...  Any suggestions?  Shall I start over??  Could
it simply be the mother board?  I believe this is a HOT307 386
Motherboard with 8 megs ram.  


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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread bigt

DW>I suspect that your problems are with the ftp method (this was not tested
DW>as extensivly as it should have been)

DW>You indicated that you have tried this 7 times. Was it from scratch each
DW>time? That is, did you start over and do a fresh install each time?

Yes each time was a start over...  Set the Boot partition back to the
dos partition first and start again.  


DW>Suggestion: Set up the base system. Download the new libc5 package and
DW>install it with "dpkg -i libc5*.deb 2>&1 |tee install.log". This will put
DW>all the error messages into the file intall.log. If the installation
DW>fails, send me the file.

Does this mean  When dselect is ran skip the selectoin process and
jump strait to install???

DW>If you think it might help, you should feel free to call me, but we should
DW>be able to resolve this via e-mail.

DW>With respect to a CD. I'm fairly confident that a CD would work for you
DW>(this sounds like a problem with the ftp method of dselect) and can
DW>provide you with a 1.3.1 CD. If you are interested, let me know.

Whats the cost here



DW>On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

DW>> Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
DW>> installing debian 1.3.
DW>> 
DW>> I have only had one responce on my posted questions... and am no
DW>> farther ahead than I was a week ago.  
DW>> 
DW>> Whats my problem???  Well ok, let's see, the installation of the base
DW>> system
DW>> works correctly. I can boot my Debian GNU/Linux system from
DW>> harddisk, and I have a network connection.
DW>> 
DW>> Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
DW>> an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
DW>> it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.
DW>> 
DW>> I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
DW>> message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.
DW>> 
DW>> I do get other error messages trying to install other files using the
DW>> dpkg -i method.  I seem to get all sorts of dependency errors.  So I
DW>> try to install the files that the system says it depends on and end up
DW>> back at the can't map /lib/libc5 error.  I also get some kind of error
DW>> that says that the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 file is missing.  I look for it
DW>> and it points to a file in lib/libc.so.5.  
DW>> 
DW>> At this point I am confused on whats right and whats wrong.  After
DW>> installing this thing  7 times now and always running up into the same
DW>> error every single install, I don't know where to turn.  The IRC are
DW>> useless and I haven't gotten but one responce on this list.  
DW>> 
DW>> Does anyone know of anyone I can call for help???  If I bought a CD
DW>> would it make a differnece?   Am I talking to brick wall???
DW>> 
DW>> 
DW>> Tony Koehn
DW>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DW>> 
DW>> slakware is looking real nice right about now
DW>> This email originated from ourtownusa.com.
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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread bigt


LE>By now, I'm getting the feeling that something with your set is horribly
LE>broken - your hardware or the software/installation.

LE>I think, however, we can focus on the gcc + cpp + libraries region for
LE>now, because I get the impression that dselect's install only fails
LE>because of reasons related to these packages.

LE>I'm going to show you the correct lines under dselect's select for the
LE>involved packages. Please compare them to what you get and maybe you
LE>could post the differences (or everything):

LE> *** Std develgcc  2.7.2.1-9   2.7.2.1-9   The GNU C
LE>compiler (ELF v

Shows:   2.7.2.1-8   2.7.2.18


LE> *** Std interpre cpp  2.7.2.1-8   2.7.2.1-8   The GNU C
LE>preprocessor (E

Shows The same here...

LE> *** Req base ldso 1.8.10-21.8.10-2The Linux dynamic
LE>linker,

Shows The same here...

LE> *** Req base libc55.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
LE>library versi

Shows an install version of 5.4.23-6 with available version of 5.4.33-3

LE> *** Std devellibc5-dev5.4.23-65.4.23-6The Linux C
LE>library versi

Shows The same here...


LE>Regards,

LE> Andree
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Re: I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-07-03 Thread bigt


LE>Hi again,

LE>thinking a bit more of it, it might be a good idea to make an ldconfig
LE>(as root) to see what's the matter with your libraries. Maybe it even
LE>solves your problems.

LE>By the way, how much experience do you have with Linux in general? I
LE>hope this question doesn't sound rude, it's just goot to know to be able
LE>to adjust the answers accordingly.

LE>Regards,

LE> Andree


No its not rude  

I have been using linux now for some 6 months.  I don't program on it
and don't have any idea as to what a lot of the files are for.  Now DOS
another story 

I use Linux becuase of its ability to handle internet very well.  Thats
what we use it for but not having anyone in my area where I live at
that knows anything about it is hard to find.


Ok on ldconfig:  I get these messages

ldconfig:  warning: can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping
ldconfig:  warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping

the libc.so points to /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 but this file does not exist
I have a 5.4.23
the libm.so points to /lib/libm.so.5.0.9 but this file does not exist I
have a 5.0.8

What gives here??  What is ldconfig for?

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Re: Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-03 Thread bigt
Bruce,
When I run ldconfig here is what it says

ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libc.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping
ldconfig:  warning:  can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or
directory),  skipping

When I look for these files they point to:

libc.so  -> /lib/libc.so.5.4.33  This file don't exist but there is a
5.4.23
libm.so -> /lib/libm.so.5.0.9   This file also does not exist but is a
5.0.8

How would I fix this???

Tony



BR>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BR>> Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
BR>> an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
BR>> it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.

BR>Just to see if you get lucky, become root and run "ldconfig". That might
BR>solve this problem. If it does not, please give us the entire text of the
BR>message when dselect quits, and tell us exactly what you are doing when
BR>you get to that message. Your best bet would be to fix this problem, so
BR>that you can install using dselect.

BR>You are not talking to a brick wall. You do have to give us better
BR>information, though, otherwise we will have no idea of what is happening
BR>on your system.

BR>Regarding whether buying a CD would help, it might help you install
BR>faster, but we give the same customer service either way.

BR> Thanks

BR> Bruce
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Anyone available that I can call???

1997-07-02 Thread bigt
Is there anyone out there that I could call concerning my problem
installing debian 1.3.

I have only had one responce on my posted questions... and am no
farther ahead than I was a week ago.  

Whats my problem???  Well ok, let's see, the installation of the base
system
works correctly. I can boot my Debian GNU/Linux system from
harddisk, and I have a network connection.

Now to the problems. I start dselect, choose ftp as access method, do
an update this works, select my packages, start install. And then
it stops with the dpkg-message referring to can't map /lib/libc5.

I try to install the file libc5_5.4.33-3.deb using dpkg and I get a
message that says version 4.23-6 is already installed.

I do get other error messages trying to install other files using the
dpkg -i method.  I seem to get all sorts of dependency errors.  So I
try to install the files that the system says it depends on and end up
back at the can't map /lib/libc5 error.  I also get some kind of error
that says that the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 file is missing.  I look for it
and it points to a file in lib/libc.so.5.  

At this point I am confused on whats right and whats wrong.  After
installing this thing  7 times now and always running up into the same
error every single install, I don't know where to turn.  The IRC are
useless and I haven't gotten but one responce on this list.  

Does anyone know of anyone I can call for help???  If I bought a CD
would it make a differnece?   Am I talking to brick wall???


Tony Koehn
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gcc errors.....

1997-07-02 Thread bigt
I have been having a terrible time installing 1.3

I keep getting gcc: can't map '/lib/libc5.so.5'
This message might also be the same but have dpkg: instead of gcc:

What does this mean and what am I doing wrong.

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I just can't get 1.3 to work using dselect....

1997-06-30 Thread bigt
I am having so much problems

I just flat have not been able to get past DSELECT.

I have totally re-installed everything.(about 5 times)


Everytime I bring up dselect and select FTP.  (My Machine is connected
to the net via ethernet).  I get up to the point of installtion... 
Here is my first error.

dpkg (subprocess): faild to exec C compiler 'gcc': no such directory 
or file.
dpkg: subprocess gcc -print-libgcc-file-name returned error exit status
2.  I also get alsorts of can't map gcc errors. 

I have tried to install things manually.  I have ftped files to my hard
drive.  I keep getting all sorts of erros. malloc errors. out of memory
errors. You name I get it

I am running on a:

386 40 Mhz, 8 Meg Ram, 850 HD

I have read the install intructions and have done everything to the T. 
Everything works right on the install with out as much as a glitch. 
But every time I get to the install process thats when the errors
occur.  I boot with resuce disk and have my drivers disk.  My
base1_4.tgz is on a Dos partition.  It reads that just fine.  When I
reboot and run dselect I never have been able to get past the
installation..

Is gcc part of the base installation?  What could I be missing?  Am I
suppose to do something else in addition?   Do I need to get any other
files?

Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated.

Tony
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