Re: Repository Problem
Hi, You can try to replace in /etc/apt/sources.list or using Synaptic changing distribution in Settings/Repositories wheezy/updates by wheezy Remember, you can see in a browser that the following URL http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources doesn't exists. Once you had done the change execute apt-get update or press Reload in Synaptic Good luck Regards On Fri, 2016-04-15 at 13:06 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I just had a catastrophic crash which necessitated reinstalling > Debian. I had been running v-7.2,but decided to upgrade to v-7.10 > with a complete install. > > Now when I update the repositories, regardless of the tool, Synaptic > or Aptitude, I get the following errors: > > W: Failed to fetch > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: > 404 Not Found [IP: 2610:148:1f10:3::89 80] > W: Failed to fetch > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/contrib/source/Sources: > 404 Not Found [IP: 2610:148:1f10:3::89 80] > W: Failed to fetch > http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/non-free/source/Sources: > 404 Not Found [IP: 2610:148:1f10:3::89 80] > E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old > ones used instead. > E: Couldn't rebuild package cache > > I do not get these errors if I comment out the deb-src lines in the > sources.list. > > Now, I know that it has to be a problem with the new install as I have > installed v-7.10 in a VMware Workstation 12 Player on my laptop as a > test bed and do not get any errors. > > I would greatly appreciate help resolving this issue,. > > Thanks in advance. > -- > Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set > www.Molecular-Modeling.netStochastic and multivariate > (614)312-7528 (c) > Shyoe: smolnar1
Samba4 is missing
Hello, Today I realized that package samba4 is missing from repositories. Is this normal? I had installed samba4 packages from one or two month ago, and now it is unavailable. # apt-cache search samba4 libsamba-hostconfig-dev - Samba host configuration library - development files libsamba-hostconfig0 - Samba host configuration library samba4-clients - client utilities from Samba 4 samba4-common-bin - Samba 4 common files used by both the server and the client samba4-dev - tools for extending Samba samba4-testsuite - test suite from Samba 4 samba4 package is missing in the search results. Thanks. *Jordi Clariana* *IT Manager**Senior System Administrator* ATRAPALO.COM <http://www.atrapalo.com/> Aribau 185, 1º 08021 Barcelona Tel. directo: 935208446 Tel. oficina: 933193001 ext. 203 Fax. 935208400
Re: Congrats Deb Devs on Squeeze release!
Happy squeeze release everyone! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=ugsuavt59bqk28fqbwsyzgvznpzbpb-cap...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is The Hour Nigh?
The release team seems to be on the final stretch of the RC bug squash. The last RC bugs are being squashed, or packages are being removed from squeeze if their bugs can't be squashed. Yes, we seem to be very close to release. But no official announcement yet. I don't know about you, but I'm excited. :-) - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikz2xsy=kju0qbho8lfcb6aebmn1fjqq0+f-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Activating Emacs packages without restarting Emacs
On 12 December 2010 10:02, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 08:03:09 -0600, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > >> If I install an Emacs package with apt, how do I make it take hold in >> Emacs without restarting Emacs? Does it vary per package? > > Maybe this helps: > > How To Install Emacs Packages > http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_installing_packages.html No, this has got nothing to do with system-wide locations or Debian packaging. :-( I've tried things like looking at the .el files that a Debian package provides and try to execute them, but that's error-prone. I was hoping for a method like "eval this elisp file" and see if that worked. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinvep2cx8knbgksyag+rjj3b_wykitzgsav4...@mail.gmail.com
Activating Emacs packages without restarting Emacs
If I install an Emacs package with apt, how do I make it take hold in Emacs without restarting Emacs? Does it vary per package? Thanks, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinyqk5hktvge3y41c2tnlbjv42tkvdfbojq6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: octave-forge in debian
On 5 February 2010 12:31, lc wrote: > I want to install the package octave-specfun in debian unstable, This isn't a question particular to Octave, but it's about Debian packaging. Please direct questions to Debian mailing lists or support channels. At any rate, I'm CC debian-user@lists.debian.org, and please let's move the discussion over there. When you reply to this email, please remove help-oct...@octave.org from the CC. > but it says > octave-specfun: > Depends: libhdf5-serial-1.8.3 but it is not going to be installed or >libhdf5-1.8.3 > > because the newly upgraded octave3.2.4-1 depends and installed > libhdf5-1.8.4 I don't see how this could be happening. The current octave in sid also depends on libhdf5-1.8.3 Where are you getting a 3.2.4-1 Octave package? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top, www-data and other using LDAP?
¿Anyone? -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
top, www-data and other using LDAP?
Account)(uid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:01 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2230 op=2 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:01 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2229 op=3 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixGroup)(memberUid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:01 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2230 op=3 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixGroup)(memberUid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:03 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2231 op=2 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:03 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2231 op=3 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixGroup)(memberUid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:32 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2232 op=2 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:32 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2232 op=3 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixGroup)(memberUid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:34 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2233 op=2 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=www-data))" Aug 20 15:16:34 xen-ldap03 slapd[5332]: conn=2233 op=3 SRCH base="dc=cdmon,dc=com" scope=2 deref=0 filter="(&(objectClass=posixGroup)(memberUid=www-data))" ¿Why the apache2 tires to connect to LDAP server (192.168.10.1) using its user www-data, which indeed doesn't exist as LDAP user? Obviosly, the server is using LDAP as _ACCOUNTING SERVER_ (which works nice with sshd service, for example) but ¿apache2, top? I'm really confused. -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i limit system resources for a particular process? [solved]
hi, thanks for the info, it's been really useful. vitaminix: what you suggested helped, but as Todd sais it has more to do with memory than with CPU, i didn't actually have a clue where the bottleneck was. Todd: what you suggested works great. I kept playing with bs and count parameters, combined with nice and now the system is quite responsive through the whole period of time in which dd is running. Thank you all very much for the advice. En/na Todd A. Jacobs ha escrit: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 04:26:14PM +0200, Jordi Moles Blanco wrote: I would like to run dd and let it use, for example, only 10% of the CPU time or 30% of the total amount of memory. Is that possible? I'm not looking for a "general" process limit for the whole system, only for a particular process. Part of your question is about memory. AFAICT, the memory consumed by dd is strictly a function of its block size, so just specify a blocksize that fits within available RAM and doesn't cause filesystem writes to block too long. You might need to experiment a bit with this. For example, the following are functionally equivalent in that they both create a 1GB file in /tmp, but one of them may work better on your system than the other, depending on a variety of hardware characteristics: dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zeroes bs=1M count=1000 dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zeroes bs=256k count=4000 As for the rest of your question, most utilities like nice or cpulimit operate on CPU usage, but your problem sounds like it's actually disk I/O. I'd recommend installing util-linux if it isn't already on your system, and using the ionice utility with "idle" priority. You can even combine this with nice, if you want. Thus: nice -n18 ionice -c3 dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zeroes bs=1M count=1000 will probably take a longer time to complete, but your system should be extremely responsive the whole time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
how can i limit system resources for a particular process?
hi everyone, let's say i want to create an .img file of 50GB with "dd" command. After that, i will give it a format with mkfs.ext3. The problem is that while "dd" is running I'm not able to do anything else on the machine, not even ssh in, it just consumes all the available resources, and as I'm creating a 50GB image, i can't access the machine for several minutes. I've tried to use "nice" command, giving the "dd" process the lowest possible priority, 19. The thing is that the whole thing performs better, i can establish ssh connection. However, i can't do much when I'm in it, everything is so slow. I've also read some documentation about "limit/ulimit" command, but i fail to see how i can use it successfully for this matter. I would like to run dd and let it use, for example, only 10% of the CPU time or 30% of the total amount of memory. Is that possible? I'm not looking for a "general" process limit for the whole system, only for a particular process. Thanks in advance for your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Microsoft Virtual Earth-based apps not working
2009/4/29 Barclay, Daniel : > Does the Mozilla license really require Debian to change the user agent > string? It doesn't, but honestly, it doesn't matter. It's the website that is broken because it's readin the UA string wrong, not the browser. I make a point of sending Firesomething UA strings; if a website cares, they should be checking for the Gecko rendering engine, not for the browser's name. You could try to flame #399633 for fun and profit. ;-) Or use user-agent switcher for broken websites. It's also fun to use that and pretend to be the Googlebot, find the sites that are lying to Google. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
GTK+ apps crapflood my console after hibernate
This has been happening for quite a while... whenever I thaw X from hibernation and open any GTK+ app from console, all X events in the GTK+ app crapflood my console with errors like these: (emacs22-gtk:13958): atk-bridge-WARNING **: failure: no device event controller found. (mysql-query-browser:14038): atk-bridge-WARNING **: failure: no device event controller found. and so on. It goes away if I zap X. Is there a better fix? Googling for this error talks about more severe symptoms for other people, but everything works here. My sound is fine, all of my hardware is working fine, X events just crapflood my terminals. What's going on? Thanks, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?
2009/2/23 Javier :
> The main point here is: if he is lucky enough, no police would enter
> into his house.
Since this has become a tinfoil hat thread more than an encryption thread...
My own personal solution to the problem has been this: my hard drive
decryption password is 25 random printable ASCII characters. And I do
mean random. It's something like >]\gj-eR4cn-nc;i...@{gawa*po, which I
have committed to *muscle memory*. That is, if you ask me what my
password is, I genuinely don't know it, because I have to sit in front
of a keyboard to type it out, and I often make mistakes. I also rotate
it once a year. My hope is that this means the password can't be
obtained from me under duress, because I would be unable to type it
out without making mistakes if I were under duress.
My paranoia is vaguely justified, since I live in Mexico and we do
have an ongoing history of torture in this country, although I'm not
too sure what the torturers could want from my hard drive except my
homemade pr0n (that's really the reason I encrypt my laptop's hard
drive, so that in case of theft my girlfriend and I don't end up in
RedTube). How do you justify your paranoia, Javier? ;-)
- Jordi G. H.
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Re: How to protect an encrypted file system for off-line attack?
2009/2/21 Javier : > I'm actually using encfs to protect my sensitive data, Eh... http://xkcd.com/538/ - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Happy lenny, everyone!
I know most Debian users think that only testing is suitable for this "desktop use", but my family members use stable for all their needs, so the lenny release has me very happy that I can now give them an upgrade to their experience. Happy lenny release, everyone! Almost 22 months since last release, and there are many good reasons to be happy with it. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Friday the 13th
En/na Peter Hugosson-Miller ha escrit: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Try this: date -...@1234567890 Hugo p...@linux624:~$ date -...@1234567890 date: invalid date `...@1234567890' p...@linux624:~$ Woohoo! ??? That's not the answer you are supposed to get. This is: ds feb 14 00:31:30 CET 2009 ohh... how romantic is that ... Thanks Hugo for the info :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
crontab command and permissions problem
Hi, I'm having a problem trying to execute the "crontab" command from a perl script. I'm writing to this list cause the same set up works in another distro. Now i'm moving to Debian for convenience, but I'm having this problem i can't fix. The thing is... I'm using SNMP to automatize some processes on the server, for example, to create a system user remotely. The script that handles the creation of the user and so on is written in perl. The thing is that, this way, i can create users, delete them and access absolutely path in the server, cause... after all it is executed as root. However, i'm facing only one problem with all the automated calls i've had... i can't use "crontab". When i call this command from the SNMP system, i get this: "must be privileged to use -u" the procedure is... 1. i create a cron file for a particular user in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username 2. i run "crontab -u username /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username" I've tried to create the cron file, somewhere else, or to give it 777 permissions, but i always get the same error message. I've even tried to log a "whoami" command before it executes "crontab", and it says it's root, but then it says it is not allowed to execute the command. I've also tried to create the /etc/cron.allow file and many other things i've found on several posts, but none has worked. Could some tell me how to fix this or if there's another way to do same thing? Basically, i want to create a per-user crontab file. is there any other way to do it a part from using "crontab" command? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: GNU info documents ? How?
2009/1/15 Paul E Condon : > So, if I have a package for which I don't seem to have an > info document automagically installed via > > apt-get install , > > and for which I cannot find another package named, > > -doc , > > is it reasonable to assume that an info document does > not exist for that package? Which one? The documentation might be named something else entirely. 2009/1/15 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. : > You should check a package's Recommends/Suggests to > determine what separate documentation, if any, exists. Recommends isn't going to help here. Policy forbids packages in main from Recommending packages in non-free. :-( The package can Suggest a non-free package, though. So "apt-cache search thepackage | grep Suggest" can be helpful sometimes to find the docs. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: GNU info documents ? How?
2009/1/15 Paul E Condon : > I know that there is some Gnu nonsense about the license on > info documents the keeps them from bein part of debian main, > but how can I gain access to them as an individual user? Depends on the package. Not all of the GFDLed docs have invariant sections, most of them can be found in non-free (not contrib). The big exception I can think of right now is that GNU grep is missing its info manual, although I've contacted upstream and they have agreed to remove the invariant section for the next release (but that won't probably happen soon). - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Make it impossible for websites to style forms in Debian Blizzardhawk
Thanks for your response, Tom. 2009/1/6 thveillon.debian : > I happen to share your taste for dark themes, and I solved some of my > issues with SandDonkey in /usr/share/xulrunner-1.9/res/forms.css by > basically hunting for > > background-color: -moz-Field; > color: -moz-FieldText; > > in the "input", "text area" and "select" fields > and replacing it with the desired values, like > > background-color: #ff; //-moz-Field; > color: #00; //-moz-FieldText; So I do need to modify "system" files to accomplish this? It's not too bad to do so, but that means I'll have to be careful when the next update of Mozilla Seacrab comes along, because then I'll have to make sure that apt doesn't overwrite my modifications. Also, this specifies a colour, but do you know if it's possible to have a setting where they inherit the Gnome theme? > If you're tired of hacking around css you can have a look at the > "Stylish" extension : https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/2108 > > and the customizable templates themes and styles that goes with on > userstyles.org : > > http://userstyles.org/styles;site > > http://userstyles.org/styles;app Yeah. I looked at those, but they don't do exactly what I want (they basically impose their own theme, one that happens to be light-on-dark, but doesn't match my Gnome theme). I'm thinking I should probably ask my question in a more CSS-specific, Mozilla-specific location. I'll hunt around for one. Thanks again, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Make it impossible for websites to style forms in Debian Blizzardhawk
Blizzardhawk, Fireweasel, Icewolf, whatever... Anyways, the issue is that I modified my GTK+ theme because I like dark themes, and on some websites, all the form elements (buttons, text boxes, radio buttons, checkmarks), look lovely: http://sums.math.mcgill.ca/~jordi/piccies/exhibit-a.png Yeah, they clash with the rest of the website design a little, but whatever. I like it that way. The problem is that in this modern web of ours, it's a favourite fad to use all these fancy colours all over the place and style form elements in ways that may look broken and unreadable because they clash with our native theme (and since nobody uses light-on-dark themes, it's ok to assume that we can use a light-coloured background or dark-coloured text when we style our forms, right?): http://sums.math.mcgill.ca/~jordi/piccies/exhibit-b.png Basically, I'd like to make it impossible for websites to use colours for forms at all, *but only forms*. Of course I can tell Mozilla Webarachnid to not use any colours from the webpage at all, but that's a bit extreme and monochromatic: http://sums.math.mcgill.ca/~jordi/piccies/exhibit-c.png I know that I can probably accomplish what I want by modifying some CSS, but there are is so many CSS in various locations that I don't know how to actually do it... perhaps with a Stylish theme, or with userChrome.css or modify /usr/share/xulrunner-1.9/res/forms.css, or what? What I want is for all forms elements to use my Gnome theme, regardless of what the website author thinks the form element should look like. For added bonus, I'd like to accomplish this without the need of root privileges. Is this possible? Thanks in advance, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java on Debian
2008/12/26 Arthur Marsh : > There is java-gcj-compat-plugin icedtea has essentially superseded this. > sun-java6-plugin I wonder if Sun is gonna keep a free version and a non-free version of Java like they do with OO.o and StarOffice. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java on Debian
2008/12/25 Amit Uttamchandani : > I have lenny and in this case what is the difference between IcedTea > and OpenJDK? Roughly, same code, different trademarked names. > I tried installing all of those packages but still can't > get iceweasel to run java programs. Installed icetea-gcjwebplugin? It works very well here. Not perfectly, still a few Java applets I can't run (most notably, Processing applets), but almost everything else works perfectly. I see a couple more Java plugins are available in experimental, but I'm not feeling adventurous enough to try them. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java on Debian
2008/12/17 Alex Samad : >> Unfortunately, OpenJDK is too new to be packaged for etch, but you can >> try to build it from sources. > > openJDK is in unstable, no need to go to source And is backporting OpenJDK from unstable to etch trivial? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java on Debian
2008/12/17 Girish Kulkarni : > 1. What is the Java Runtime Environment? And the Java Development Kit? The JRE includes a virtual machine for running Java programs, the JDK is stuff like the Java compiler and associated programs you need to build and debug Java code. > 2. What is my compiler? My Virtual Machine? You can choose to use Java's non-free javac compiler (apt-cache search sun java jdk), gcj, or OpenJDK. > 3. Are there any free software implementations of Java? Yeah, gcj and OpenJDK are the big ones. OpenJDK is a fully comformant implementation of Java and I have not run into any problems with it at all; it's Sun's official open implementation of Java. Unfortunately, OpenJDK is too new to be packaged for etch, but you can try to build it from sources. HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Partition damaged
2008/12/7 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is the last partition, and i executed the command with the start and > end parameters, and before, I provide the partition device to the > parted command. What more information can i pass to it? If you literally provided START and END instead of numbers, that won't work (but I don't know why the rescue command wouldn't work). You have to provide approximate numbers, in megabytes, on where you expect the partition to be. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition damaged
2008/12/7 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It looks like your partition table is damaged... have you tried >> >> http://os.cqu.edu.au/cgi-bin/info/info2html.cgi?(parted)rescue >> >> ? > > Thanks for the response. > > I installed parted, and i tried "parted /dev/sda3" , and then "rescue > START END", but nothing happened. No response of the command. The rescue command needs a bit of a hint as to where the partition could be. And it needs a pretty good hint. Is the partition at the beginning of your drive and goes all the way to the end? You said you resized it, so try providing the resized partition as the hint. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition damaged
2008/12/4 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there any possibility of restore the partition? or i have to focus > in data recovering? It looks like your partition table is damaged... have you tried http://os.cqu.edu.au/cgi-bin/info/info2html.cgi?(parted)rescue ? HTH, - Jordi G.H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble
2008/12/1 Amarantita Mieltostada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, my name is Amaranta, and i'm from Chile. That's a curious name! > In the page says that I have to write you in english, You can try writing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead if you prefer to speak Spanish. Puedes escribir en [EMAIL PROTECTED] si prefieres hablar en español/castellano. 2008/12/1 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You need us to help you capture passwords? Translation problem, a calque from Spanish that has the wrong connotations in English. 2008/12/1 Jeff Soules <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think he [...] She. :-) - Jordi G. H.
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
2008/11/28 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 11/28/08 10:11, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> >> 2008/11/22 Girish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player >>> for Linux on Debian? -- >> >> Yeah. I put it my local ~/.mozilla/plugins directory though. Piece of >> shit segfaulted within the first ten seconds of use bringing down >> Debian Fireslug with it, so I erased it and went back to swfdec. >> >> Oh, Adobe, why do you keep making such horrible and non-free software >> for your own formats? > > http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html >An alpha version of 64-bit Adobe Flash Player 10 for Linux > > It's *alpha* grade software. That's why it segfaulted!!! Whatever. If you want me to beta test, gimme source and debug symbols so that I can participate in the testing too. I'm not your 64-bit betatester monkey if you're not giving me any code in return. Fwiw, 32-bit also segfaults, although admittedly less frequently. Crap software for their own (acceptable) formats. PDF and Flash are both fine formats and have many valid uses. Often people say they hate PDF, but what they really hate is Acrobat Reader and its long load times and intrusive embedding into the web browser. I hate that flash player segfaults and brings down my browser with it. Yes, gnash and swfdec haven't implemented all of Flash yet, but they're steadily getting better, they do at least the important bit, which is flv, and they have many enhancements in their user interface over Adobe's flash player. And I can hack them. Adobe, I am glad you give us specs for your formats. Thank you for that, even if the Flash spec was mostly a symbolic gesture since most or all of it had already been largely reverse engineered. I am not glad you make crappy software for those formats and everyone uses it. - Jordi G. H.
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
2008/11/22 Girish Kulkarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Has anyone had any success in using the new 64-bit Adobe Flash player > for Linux on Debian? -- Yeah. I put it my local ~/.mozilla/plugins directory though. Piece of shit segfaulted within the first ten seconds of use bringing down Debian Fireslug with it, so I erasted it and went back to swfdec. Oh, Adobe, why do you keep making such horrible and non-free software for your own formats? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always fails > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? Wait, that will fail for me too... Does it work if you first put the card in monitor mode (airmon-ng start wlan0) and then use the newly created mon0 interface instead? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
2008/11/22 green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What do you do to make aircrack-ng work? 'aireplay-ng -9 wlan0' always fails > for me. Perhaps that is the difference? I've thought so too... I don't remember what I did, but I did try at one point to patch one of the wireless drivers... but I've since reinstalled Linux, so that should have overwritten any patches I could have done, right? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iwl3945 doesn't associate to AP with 2.6.26 Linux but does with 2.6.24
The subject pretty much summarises my problem. I have an Intel 3945 wireless card thingie, and it works fine and dandy with Linux 2.6.24 but not with 2.6.26. I can see the network list with 2.6.26, I can even use aircrack-ng to crack WEP keys with 2.6.26 (but not with 2.6.24, which is the only reason I want to boot 2.6.26), but I cannot get the card to associate with any AP, encrypted or not. dmesg just says the association times out; there's no error anywhere else. I am using the latest non-free firmware-iwlwifi, and I don't know why a different Linux would make a difference all other things held constant. Any wisdoms will be much appreciated. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
2008/11/13 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > audio editor: ffmpeg/audacity > audio player: rhythmbox > cd-ripper: Gnome's default (sound juicer, I think) > desktop OR window manager: Gnome with Compiz > DBMS: None > development: Emacs and GNU tools > disc burner: Gnome's default (Nautilus, I think), k3b for advanced things. > e-mail client: None (Gmail) > file manager: Nautilus and bash. Gnome-do can almost replace both. > finance: None. > ftp client: Web browser (usually Iceweasel) > games: Wesnoth, Nexuiz, Hexahop. > image editor: Gimp > image viewer: eog > instant messenger: Kopete > mathematics: Octave, Maxima, TeXmacs, LaTeX, AUCTeX, Emacs, GNU Scientific Library, gnuplot, Octaviz, Singular, surf > misc utilities: Emacs > p2p: Ktorrent > package manager: aptitude > pdf-reader: evince and okular > spreadsheet: none > tag editor: tagtool > terminal emulator: gnome-terminal and konsole > text editor: emacs > video player: totem and vlc > web browser: iceweasel > word-processor: none (but will use OO.o when I have to open those email attachments) > non-free: adobe flash player (but keep trying gnash and swfdec) iwlwifi-firmware GFDL, according to Debian. > SPECIAL CATEGORIES > > anything unreleased and highly anticipated: gnash and swfdec are released, but I want them to get better! > anything FLOSS deserving great honours (EG. Linux, GCC): Emacs and Firefox, and all of their infinite configurations and addons. Compiz for similar reasons. > any organisation/community deserving great honours (EG. GNU, Debian): DDs and Ubuntu devs. Sourceforge network ops. > any FLOSS developer deserving great honours (max 5 at most, unless you > insist): John W. Eaton (Octave lead dev) William Stein (Sage lead dev) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is touch pad configure?
2008/11/3 Dennis Wicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have lenny/gnome installed on a laptop with a touch pad > and I can't find any thing/place to configure/customize it. > It is working, but is way to sensitive. If it is synaptics touchpad (it might not be, mine for example is an ALPS touchpad), if you install the gsynaptics tool, you should get a configuration option under System -> Preferences. HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hunting a Math Application
Hi. 2008/11/3 Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > you can also always get a free matlab compatible matlab from bittorrent ;-) I have strong opinions as to why this is not a viable solution: http://everything2.com/title/mathematica+and+free+software Cheers, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hunting a Math Application
2008/10/26 Wu, Kejia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there some open source application with functions as Matlab on linux? Octave is very close to Matlab. It implements virtually all of the core Matlab functions, and it has the same syntax, unlike Scilab or the Python numeric libraries. You might want to install QtOctave as well if you're afraid of terminals. ;-) Both Octave and QtOctave are packaged for Debian. It also has a very active community in the mailing lists. Definitely worth checking out. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (SOLVED) Re: High cpu usage with compiz
2008/10/23 Aniruddha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 18:55 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: >> > compiz "enable" >> I'll try installing ati's 8.9 driver. > > Installing the 8-9 drivers solved the high cpu usage. Unfortunately I > can't play videos but that's another question. Does it work if you disable Xv? For Gnome apps, gstreamer-properties will let you disable Xv. In VLC, you have to pick a different output module. I imagine for KDE apps, there must be an option somewhere for that too. Unfortunately, not using Xv often increases CPU usage. :-( - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome turns everything root
2008/10/16 Slim Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Other than having sudo time out after 1 second, Why is this a bad option? The reason everything is authenticated is precisely this. You should also not be prompted for passwords now if you type sudo in the CLI. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing swfdec-mozilla removes gnome?
2008/10/15 Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:45:20AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> You should then mark the packages you want to keep as "manually >> installed" to tell apt/aptitude that you want them. E.g. use >> "aptitude unmarkauto " to mark individual packages or >> "aptitude unmarkauto '~sgnome'" to mark all Gnome packages as manually >> installed. > > I've been using Debian since what, slink? No, wait, hamm. I knew that. It > doesn't make the default behavior less ridiculous. I say that's a bug. File a bug against the Gnome package. swfdec dependency should clearly be downgraded to Suggests: or Recommends: at most. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing swfdec-mozilla removes gnome?
2008/10/15 Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 06:45:20AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> You should then mark the packages you want to keep as "manually >> installed" to tell apt/aptitude that you want them. E.g. use >> "aptitude unmarkauto " to mark individual packages or >> "aptitude unmarkauto '~sgnome'" to mark all Gnome packages as manually >> installed. > > I've been using Debian since what, slink? No, wait, hamm. I knew that. It > doesn't make the default behavior less ridiculous. I say that's a bug. File a bug against the Gnome package. swfdec dependency should clearly be downgraded to Suggests: or Recommends: at most. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sobre los DVDs de la version estable (i386)
2008/10/11 Carlos Carrero Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Esta duda puede parecer ridícula, pero los DVDs que están para descargar de > la versión estable i386 (la que me interesa) pesan más que un DVD normal y > no puedo grabarlos, ¿tengo que usar un DVD de dos capas sólo porque pesen > 300 megas más? ¿No hay otra posibilidad? Hola. En debian-user@lists.debian.org por favor escribe en inglés. Si prefieres hablar en español, entonces escribe a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me he tomado la libertad de incluir esta lista entre los destinatarios de este correo-e. Hi. In [EMAIL PROTECTED] please write in English. If you prefer to speak Spanish, then write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've taken the liberty to include this list amongst the recipients of this email. Saludos/Greetings, - Jordi G. H.
Re: Debian Stole My Name!
2008/10/10 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Friday 10 October 2008, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Please file a bug against the "debian-installer" package. > But I've learned, the hard way, NEVER file a bug report in a FOSS > project. You must be doing it wrong. I routinely file bugs against Debian packages and they usually get fixed. Just file the damn bug. :-) Or if you think they'll be hostile to you, tell me what the bug is, and I'll file it. I couldn't really follow, is it just that the debian-installer is using a username it shouldn't be using? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Entorno Grafico
2008/9/25 Roberto Chacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Saludos a todos. Hola. En debian-user@lists.debian.org por favor escribe en inglés. Si prefieres hablar en español, entonces escribe a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi. In [EMAIL PROTECTED] please write in English. If you prefer to speak Spanish, then write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Saludos/Greetings, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian is amazing
2008/9/6 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Guess what? Debian's got it! Amazing! Hear, hear. All worthwhile free software is packaged for Debian. And when it isn't, you should package it yourself for the rest of us to share. ;-) - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Не устанавливается Debian на LSI Logic RAID
2008/9/4 Michail Kulagin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Добрый день! Привет! На debian-user@lists.debian.org, пишите по-английски, пожалуйста. Если вы предпочитайте говорить по-русски пишите на [EMAIL PROTECTED] А извините меня потому что я не говорю очень хорошо. ;-) Hi! On debian-user@lists.debian.org, please write in English. If you prefer to talk in Russian, write in [EMAIL PROTECTED] And please forgive me because I don't speak very well. ;-) - Jordi G. H.
Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?
Sometimes I get the feeling that Debian's users and Debian's developers live in separate worlds. There's currently a long thread in d-legal over the AGPL. One DD has expressed reservations towards the AGPL to the point where she has decided not to package a certain program covered by the AGPL. Do Debian's users care about this sort of legal geekery or is everything fine as long as AGPLed programs go into non-free? Curious, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing icon theme crashes Nautilus
2008/8/27 Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 08/27/2008 06:30 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> >> I'm not exactly sure how it happened, but now whenever I attempt to >> change the icon theme from the standard Gnome set, Nautilus locks up. >> [...] > > Please see this: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/08/msg02046.html > > Isn't this list good? :-) Yay, thank you, that fixed it. I was rather worried I would never get my precious icons back again. :-) - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing icon theme crashes Nautilus
I'm not exactly sure how it happened, but now whenever I attempt to change the icon theme from the standard Gnome set, Nautilus locks up. I can killdashnine it, but it won't revive until I change the icon theme back to the Gnome icons. When I go to gnome-appearance-properties, none of the icons have a preview, and some global themes also don't have previews (like the Gorilla theme). If I select one of those global themes without a preview, everything that uses GTK icons crashes, including Nautilus. If I change the icon theme from the default, Nautilus crashes. I tried reinstalling gnome-themes and gnome-themes-extras, hoping the install scripts would regenerate some cache or such that is missing and is crashing Nautilus, but I had no such luck. I tried a new user, and I was able to change the icon theme, so either something in my /home or my /tmp files is making it impossible for me to change the icon theme, but there must be a deeper problem somewhere since the new user didn't see icon previews either in gnome-appearance-properties. Help? Thanks in advance, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happy birthday, Debian!
14 years! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg update clobbers Nvidia GL
2008/8/16 Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It seems every time xorg is updated it clobbers my Nvidia driver Of course it clobbers it; it's a blob. The only fix is to reinstall the latest nvidia driver each time you update Xorg. The real solution, though, is to get nvidia to free up their blob, but nvidia has stated on repeated occasions that it won't do so. Maybe the nouveau project will be usable one of these days. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg update clobbers Nvidia GL
2008/8/16 Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > If I use nvidia-installer to UNinstall the drivers, Btw, the installer from nvidia's website doesn't play nicely with Debian's packaging system, as you have seen. The Debian way to do it is something like this: update-pciids apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source m-a prepare m-a a-i nvidia apt-get install nvidia-glx depmod -a modprobe nvidia dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
2008/8/1 Star Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm really happy to get so much good suggestions, I will try the > following tools one by one, and send my use reports to this mail > thread. I feel that the first one I want to try is codeblocks. Well, whatever works... > emacs > vim If I may so interject here, let me speak on behalf of these two choices. I will admit that I'm an acolyte of St iGNUcius and I worship at the Church of Emacs[1], but nevertheless, let me try to give a somewhat objective reason for why you should dedicate some serious time at learning either Emacs or vim, or at least trying to learn them. The fact[2] remains that coding without touch-typing or with excessive wrist motion *will* slow you down. Both vim and Emacs are designed to train you to rewire your cerebellum to move your fingers and wrists in different ways to get work done. Emacs is extensible; vim is minimalist, but their editting philosophies are more alike than different: make the user work hard to get through a steep learning curve in order to later ease transition into Deep Hack Mode[3]. It is said that flashier IDEs accomplish this better, but to me, after many years of Emacs, it's extremely uncomfortable to have to move my wrists to the arrow keys and away from homerow for tasks like moving the cursor or copy-pasting. There is another benefit to learning either Emacs or vim (or better, at least a little of both): they yield dividends elsewhere. For example, both vim-like and Emacs-like keys for motion and simple editting work in domains outside of both, like in less (the default pager when you look at manpages in Debian). Emacs-like keys are the default in any application that uses readline for receiving text input, and readline is everywhere (apt-cache rdepends libreadline5). Novices and the faint of heart will not like Emacs or vim. I say so from experience: I hated Emacs at first. But it grows on you. You should definitely give it a try. It's 30-year-old software, but it's been in development for 30 years, and it shows. It really does everything. vim is similarly mature, but still maintains for the most part its minimalistic approach. Have you let Emacs into your heart? Are you typing in its holy word, brother? GNUly yours, - Jordi G. H. [1] http://www.stallman.org/saint.html [2] Well, maybe not a fact, but I'm almost sure that if someone were to do a serious study on coding speed between Emacs-like or vim-like touch-typists and other people, the other people would lose. [2] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-mode.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keyboard problems
A long time ago, probably around March or so, my keyboard was fine. I use three keyboard layouts, and I found that Alt+Capslock keychord useful for switching between the three of them. It was so set up in the Gnome preferences, and all was well. At some point later during some upgrade (I track testing with an occasional non-critical unstable package), this merry arrangement was lost, and has been broken ever since. Now the Alt+Capslock keychord isn't recognised, but if I go into the Gnome preferences and make any modifications to the keychords use for switching keyboard layouts (e.g. click and unclick one of the many other keychords available) it works again, minus the minor discomfort that the keyboard capslock LED toggles when I do the Alt+Capslock keychord. This didn't happen before. I have seen similar behaviour in other GTK+ apps. In Xchat, for instance, I like Ctrl+Shift+n and C-S-p for switching between the previous and next tab (looks similar to Emacs keychords, and feels comfortable). However, I see a very similar behaviour in that restarting Xchat makes the keychords non-functional until I go again into the Xchat preferences and again make some random change to the keychords therein and undo it immediately. What's going on? It's freeze time now, and I want this problem to get fixed when lenny releases, since my mom will be using lenny on her laptop when it releases. I need help figuring out even what package to file a bug for. Thanks, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to Analyze/Study Source Code?
2008/7/16 Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 4. doc++ - Documentation system that generates LaTeX/html. Latest > upload was on dec 2002. Doxygen could also work here. It's more recent, and it does more languages than just C or C++. I frequently use it to document my own code, and for undocumented code, you can run it through Doxygen and at least get call graphs, class hierarchies, and other rough indications of what's going on with the code. When faced with new code, if I want to figure out what's going on, usually the first thing I do is first figure out what I want to know about the code, then run the code through a debugger, break when something interesting is going on, see where in the code that happened, and then trace the code from there. Sometimes I also just grep the code for what could be interesting things, if I already have a rough idea of what I'm looking for. Other times I wander aimlessly through it. HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)
2008/7/13 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sunday 13 July 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: >> 2008/7/13 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > I'm using Kubuntu, but not the latest version, the one before it >> > (Gutsy, I think) and KDE 3.5.8 and have been using OSS. >> >> Are you aware that Ubuntu and Debian are not the same distribution >> and you should be asking in the Ubuntu mailing lists or forums >> instead of here? > > Are you aware that many parts are the same And many are not, particularly in the core distribution. > and that I'm not the first to > ask about issues in Ubuntu here and that many Ubuntu users have gotten > quite a bit of help here? Great, so you and all those others are offtopic. > Are you aware that many DDs are also working on Ubuntu and that many of > us use both Debian and Ubuntu and there's a lot of crossover between > the two distros? Ubuntu is offtopic on this list. I'm sure many DDs also use other distributions, perhaps not even Debian-based. That doesn't make those distributions ontopic. > So, having gotten that out of the way, are you aware you could have > posted something helpful instead of playing gatekeeper? I am not happy you are wasting bandwidth with offtopic queries for which I cannot help since you are not using the same Debian I am. Unless the Debian mailing list admins, if there are any, grant that Ubuntu queries are ontopic on this list, you are not going to win this argument. Take your web traffic to the relevant place. I tried to initially be friendly about this. I honestly thought you were confused about the relationship between Debian and Ubuntu, but you are not, and your are still willfully misusing Debian resources. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)
2008/7/13 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm using Kubuntu, but not the latest version, the one before it (Gutsy, > I think) and KDE 3.5.8 and have been using OSS. Are you aware that Ubuntu and Debian are not the same distribution and you should be asking in the Ubuntu mailing lists or forums instead of here? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What we want from software vendors
On 24/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/24 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 23/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 2) I must be interoperable with the other engineers running Solidworks. > > > > Your definition of interoperable seems a little weird. It sounds too > > much like the definition of vendor lock-in. > > > > > Dotan's definition of "interoperable": Dotan can receive, edit, and > return documents to other users. > > Note that if Dotan cannot be interoperable, then Dotan cannot work. If > Dotan cannot work, then Dotan's family starves. If it really is either vendor lock-in or starvation, then vendor lock-in is clearly the choice to make. But call it what it is, vendor lock-in, and please don't request vendor lock-in from vendors. If that's all they can give you and you starve otherwise, fine, but make it clear that this is *not* what you want (or if you do enjoy vendor lock-in, please don't make it more difficult for those of us who don't enjoy it). Situations like this is how we got into the fine MSFT Office format mess we're in. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seg fault Firefox
On 24/06/2008, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06/24/2008 03:40 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 13:11 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > > > > when ever I run firefox (aka iceweasle, how stupid is that!) > > > > > > > Not particularly. The choice there was: > > > > 1) Redistribute Firefox without the trademarks. > > 2) Not distribute Firefox at all. > > > > Which would you rather have? > > > > > > Wasn't there another option? > > 3) Keep the Firefox trademarks and put the browser into non-free. Ugh. I prefer the Iceweasel route. I like having it on the install CDs. By the way, one thing I don't understand is why Ubuntu still uses the Firefox logo and branding, especially regarding Mike Connor's comment that I have actually been asked recently by another distro maintainer whether everyone is on a fair playing field. Right now, it seems to others as if Debian has a special deal, which isn't fair, and it needs to change. regarding why Debian was still using the Firefox name. Now it seems to me that Ubuntu has that special deal. Whenever I ask about, it seems that nobody knows, and makes me think that Shuttleworth must have signed off some secret deal with Mozilla in order to be allowed to keep using the logo and name, even though their Firefox is even more heavily modified than Debian's! Please correct me if I'm wrong about these observations. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seg fault Firefox
On 24/06/2008, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when ever I run [firesomething] I get a segfault. Strange, I've gotten segfaults too, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What we want from software vendors (Was: CAD software for PCB engineering and routing)
On 23/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) I must be interoperable with the other engineers running Solidworks. Your definition of interoperable seems a little weird. It sounds too much like the definition of vendor lock-in. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CAD software for PCB engineering and routing
On 21/06/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [a long point-by-point reponse to something I wrote] Michelle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it will be to repeat to you arguments that I'm sure you have heard endless times before. I could repeat those arguments, but I doubt you would be interested. You seem to already be convinced those arguments are daft; that's fine. For what I do, mathematics, the importance of source is evident: this is how we do mathematics, sharing proof, method, and internals, this is what mathematics *is*. Engineers don't think this way, which is troubling, because engineers often do mathematics too, and then I have to interface with their habits that make my own job that much more difficult. My job is to understand things, to improve them, and to explain to others how and why things work. This is what a mathematician does. Lack of source and legal hurdles to sharing knowledge are all obstacles for my job. Money is not the issue. You keep alluding about how I want everything gratis; this was never my claim. Source could very well be distributed with money and you know that many companies do this now, just as many other companies always did this before when computers were first created. I am unconvinced that it's impossible to do so now. NIH is a Mexican standoff[1]. All these companies holding lawsuits to each other like double-barreled guns, reimplementing the same thing over and over again, guarding their precious "intellectual property" because they spent money on developing, and even if they're going to make money using it internally, god forbid that another company should have access to the same code that wouldn't cost them anything to share. I don't feel compelled to continue this argument... You seem to see everything in terms of immediate results and money, both of which I insist are nearsighted. As a whole, as a society, we would all be better off in the long run without these obstacles to dissemination of knowledge. Best, - Jordi G. H. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?
On 22/06/2008, Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they all seem to require Windoze and WMP (I don't even know what WMP is). Oh, btw, many audio players work just like a regular usb flash drive. You plug it in, and you treat it like any other pendrive. The Samsung player I have is like this. No need for stupid and non-free software. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: MP3 Player for Ogg?
On 22/06/2008, Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: Is there an MP3 player that plays Ogg files right out of the box? There are several. I've been quite happy with Samsung products. I have a YP-U2 Samsung player. Funny thing to call it "mp3 player" when you want it to play Ogg. :-) - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CAD software for PCB engineering and routing
On 21/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I personally would be satisfied paying thousands of dollars for
> Solidworks and not having access to the source code so long as it runs
> on my OS.
I think this is rather nearsighted. Although for what I do,
mathematics, it's easier to argue for openness of the software (a
mathematical proof must be available and the method disclosed,
otherwise, what kind of mathematics are we doing?), I also think it
should be important to argue for the opennes of engineering software.
If you buy it, I think you should also be demanding the source code.
Unfortunately, it seems that many people in engineering backgrounds,
with whom I frequently have to interact, are used to the idea of
paying thousands of dollars for black boxes, whether it be for
hardware and instrumentation or software. I think this is a recent
practice, but I'm not sure. I have heard it said that in times of yore
before companies realised that copyright laws could be used to
restrict their software, it was standard practice to provide source to
your customers, since the software was just the icing on the cake to
whatever else they had purchased from you.
This modern tendency to eschew source seems nearsighted because I have
seen this come back to haunt engineers. More than once, I've seen
their black boxes malfunction on them, the only people with the
ability to fix them have left the company or are out of business, and
then they come to us with interesting mathematics of inverse problems
("I have the output of this black box, how can we figure out what's
inside?"). I feel so frustrated with this, because if only they had
requested for source and documentation when they bought it, something
that apparently never even crossed their minds, then their newfound
problems would be trivial.
This is my strongest argument for openness with engineering software,
from a personal perspective. Duplication of efforts, with many
companies implementing the same or similar software in their own
secret ways (NIH syndrome) is another silly thing that happens behind
copyright laws and non-disclosure agreements and something that
software freedom can reduce or eliminate.
I think you too should care about these things. I have a vested
interest in you caring about these things, because attitudes from
people like you not caring end up spreading to others close to my
field of endeavour, and then we get results as insulting as this one,
a tutorial telling us why we're too dumb to understand their complex
internals:
http://reference.wolfram.com/mathematica/tutorial/WhyYouDoNotUsuallyNeedToKnowAboutInternals.html
I do not know much about PCB software or to what extent these
arguments apply to your own situation, but my guess is that they also
do and that having source and the freedoms that come with it would
also be hugely beneficial and a good long-term strategy.
Dixi,
- Jordi G. H.
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Re: CAD software for PCB engineering and routing
On 20/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Motivate the people that you know to let the software houses know that > we want their software. And we want it with freedom. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb camera for skype & etc.
On 18/06/2008, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used Skype video conferencing yesterday and the quality was nowhere near > as good as SIP, though in all fairness it is a bit easier to setup. Yuck, Skype. I've been earnestly looking for free alternatives. wengophone was good before it was abandoned and forked off upstream; I'm still hopeful, but right now it crashes and is not usable. Which SIP have you been using? Ekiga? Something else I'm not aware of? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: silly little text problem
On 15/06/2008, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting, I have been using "\newline". Where did you find out out > about the "\\~\\" method? \\ seems to be a synonym for \newline, or maybe it's one of those TeX vs LaTeX things (e.g. $$...$$ vs \[...\]). And ~ is a space. So newline, space, newline. I guess you need the space there otherwise the \\ \\ would only put one newline in the target text. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: silly little text problem
On 15/06/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My wife has a poem she wants typed up in a particular format: > > First line unindented > next four lines indented > next line unindented You may want to use the verse environment for this. It's in the texlive-humanities package. Documentation: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/verse/verse.pdf Are you doing typesetting or is your wife doing it? Does she enjoy typing in LaTeX? HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on laptop
On 15/06/2008, Bernd Kloss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you leave this monitor - beamer (I suppose, your external monitor was a > beamer for lectures) the way described above? I didn't use a video projector for that particular test I mentioned in my review, just an external monitor. The resolution for my screen did adjust a little, so that I couldn't see all of the screen in my laptop, but I could see all of it in the monitor. Later I tried to do the same trick with Debian, after I wiped Ubuntu. The results were similar, except that the CRT/LCD key no longer worked, and if I wanted the projector to see my laptop, I had to restart X. If I started X with the projector connected, the resolution adapts to the projector, not the monitor. By the way, I think "beamer" is a German term. I have never heard it used by English speakers. Wikipedia calls it a pseudo-anglicism. The only reason I know what "beamer" means is because I was curious why the LaTeX beamer package was called like that. :-) > This now is working fine, I get a clone of the LFP over beamer. But > I have problems playing video-DVDs and other formats like flv-files > downloaded from youtube (for instance Dr. Quantum). The beamer shows the icon > bar of kaffeine, but not the movie whereas on LFP I can see it. > > Did you have the same problems and if so, how did you solve them? No, I had no such problems. I could play video fine on the projector. The only annoyances were resolution not matching properly between laptop screen and projector. I am sorry I cannot help you more. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on laptop
On 14/06/2008, Marloque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would look into the Ubuntu laptops from Dell. If they run Ubuntu, there's > a chance they'll run Debian, since Ubuntu is based off of Debian. > I wrote a review of a Dell Ubuntu Laptop here: http://everything2.com/title/Dell+Ubuntu+Laptop HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] signing a pdf document
On 10/06/2008, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is ridiculous. Is that the way everybody signs a pdf document? What is more ridiculous is that a signature of this kind is accepted as legitimate. I say you educate them on the miracle of GPG signatures. Also, Acrobat Reader? Oh, dear Cthulhu, why? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Besoin d'information pour remonter un bug potentiel
Bonjour, M. BLONDEL. Veuillez écrire à [EMAIL PROTECTED] si vous préférez vous communiquer en français. Dans debian-user@lists.debian.org, la langue officielle est l'anglais. --- Hello, Mr BLONDEL. Please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you prefer to communicate in French. In debian-user@lists.debian.org, the official language is English. HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple files MV'd into one
Hi, Steve. I don't think you mean to reply to me only, so I'm moving the discussion back to the list. On 08/06/2008, Steve King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/9 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On 08/06/2008, Steve King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Got a bit of an issue with one of my system users. They have > >> accidentally moved multiple files from 1 directory, into a single file > >> in another. > > > > Can we have more details on how this happened? > > I'm not sure exactly how it happened to be honest, Ok, what's more important is to know what the final product looks like. That was more my question. > basically, there were a group of files in one directory, with a very > simular name: ie, company_department_date-filename.ext > > As far as I can understand, (and I'm still trying to find the bash > history that proves it) the user issued a command simular to the > following: > > mv * /new/path/location > > However, for some reason completely unknown to me, it has created a > large file called: > > company_department_.ext Okay, so is this as if they had done "cat * > company_department_.ext"? > Which I'm assuming means they have incorrectly specified the > destination in the new path location of the mv? Maybe it was a misplaced tar? Maybe they were trying to use tar to copy files and instead tarred it all into one? Does "file company_department_.ext" tell you it's a tarred file? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple files MV'd into one
On 08/06/2008, Steve King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Got a bit of an issue with one of my system users. They have > accidentally moved multiple files from 1 directory, into a single file > in another. Can we have more details on how this happened? mv won't let you move many files into one; if there are many operands to move, the last one must be a directory. Were all the files catted into a larger one? > Any advice or suggestions on how to fetch them out? I was thinking of > using something to find the EOF's within the larger file and then > splitting at that byte point, This won't work unless the big file is in some weird way; catting a bunch of files into a big one doesn't introduce EOFs at each cat point. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: Video Adapter intel965
On 07/06/2008, Сергей Овчар <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't understand what is the bullshit? Why dpkg-reconfigure > does not asked me about video adapter? The bullshit is that Xorg now does autodetection better than the Debian scripts could, so it doesn't have to ask you questions. At any rate, if you want to override the autodetection, you can still edit xorg.conf. It looks like the driver is loading, but it's too old in etch to give you acceleration. But didn't you say you were running lenny? If you want to run the newer driver with etch, you could always try to backport it, but I've never seen what an X backport looks like; can't help you there. - Jordi G. H.
Re: Video Adapter intel965
On 07/06/2008, Ken Heard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Etch the Intel i965 video controller is not supported > yet, but may be supported in Lenny. If it is supported it is probably > in package xserver-xorg-video-i810. Uhm. Is this a different i965 card I don't realise? It's in the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver. The manpage for the intel driver lists: 965G, 965GM, and 945GME. Are none of these the particular 965 at hand here? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C++ Mailing List
On 06/06/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would someone recommend to me a good Debian/Linux C++ mailing > list? How about lang.comp.c++.moderated in Usenet? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Video Adapter intel965
I'm moving this discussion back on list in case someone besides me can help you. On 05/06/2008, Сергей Овчар <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 05/06/2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 05/06/2008, Сергей Овчар <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Can anyone help me configure my videoadapter i965(notebook acer4315)? > > > There shouldn't be any need to configure that. It uses the free > > (свободный) intel driver, which already comes out of the box in lenny. > > Are you having problems with that? > > Some. > It has not been recognised automatically. That's very strange. What does your xorg.conf look like right now? - Jordi G. H.
Re: Firefox in 32-bit chroot
On 06/06/2008, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're able to get Sun's Java plugin working natively on amd64, > please feel free to tell the rest of us how you managed it. :) Oh. Thankfully, I have little use for the Java plugin myself. Looking forward to the free plugin, though. I guess none of the free Java plugins do what you want? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video Adapter intel965
Hi Sergei, On 05/06/2008, Сергей Овчар <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone help me configure my videoadapter i965(notebook acer4315)? There shouldn't be any need to configure that. It uses the free (свободный) intel driver, which already comes out of the box in lenny. Are you having problems with that? - Jordi G. H.
Re: Running testing? -- read this.
On 05/06/2008, thveillon.debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Testing [snip] > has always been at least as reliable as Ubuntu. That's not saying much. ;-) But seriously, people, testing is not stable. If you like bugs and can live with bugs, then use testing. If you don't like bugs, then run stable. I believe that the problem is that many Debian users have grown used to bugs and know how to fix them or work around them when they come up, *but* that doesn't mean testing should be Debian's business card. Stable is Debian's final product, testing is always a work in progress. As for desktop use, depends on the user. If you're used to things breaking (and for better or for worse, all the Windows users in the world seem to be used to this), then go ahead and use testing. If you don't like it, then don't use it. I use testing and can mostly get by with the breakage, but my mom who recently has mastered how to use a mouse to point-and-click; she gets stable, because I don't want her computer breaking and having her conclude that "this thing you installed on my computer sucks, nothing works." etch installed mostly ok on my mom's machine, but I do admit that I had to jump through many hoops to install it. That's ok. I am an admin for her, and the beauty of etch is that so far, I've only had to admin that machine *once*. She doesn't know her own password, and I don't think she has a need to. With etch she can browse the internet, read those blasted .doc and .ppt files her friends email her, and she can use her iPod with Rhythmbox (which she prefers to iTunes' horrid setup and intrusive marketing). More than this, this particular desktop user does not need. And I run testing, and in recent memory, I have ran across the following bugs: - Battery monitor cannot read my battery, fixed with workaround (#42305) - Gnome keyboard switcher no longer honours my alt-capslock key for switching keyboard layouts (can't find a bug and aren't sure how to report it). - Octaviz segfaults in 64 bit arch (#480431) - OpenGL got broken on many games, fixed within a month or so (#470084) - Packaging glitch with compiz where conflicting versions of packages can be installed in testing (#483819) just to name a few, or the ones that I noticed the most. I am pretty sure I'm not the only one running across this many bugs. testing breaks. That's what it is. Breaking may be good enough for most Debian users, but it shouldn't be the standard, and it is not the way software is supposed to be. The biggest harm MSFT products have done for us is to foster the perception that the natural state of software is breakage. Debian stable aims to fix that perception. My bottom line: if you recommend testing to others, do not deceive them, and tell them to expect breakage. If they don't like that, tell them to use etch. If etch doesn't recognise their newer hardware, then help them out with backporting and such. But don't unilaterally recommend testing to all users. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiz perished (intel 965 card)
On 04/06/2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ack, I didn't think it would happen to me, but it did. Latest testing > Compiz with the Intel GM965 finally crapped out. I had been having > more crashes than usual with Compiz, and now it's finally gone. Ah, sorry to reply to myself, but I've found the problem. I'm running afoul of #483819. Looks like a packaging glitch. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiz perished (intel 965 card)
Ack, I didn't think it would happen to me, but it did. Latest testing Compiz with the Intel GM965 finally crapped out. I had been having more crashes than usual with Compiz, and now it's finally gone. Unfortunately, I can't tell if this is partly my fault or not. I did mess around quite a bit with the compiz settings and modified its scripts some time ago when I first installed it. I think I purged all of my configurations and tried both the unstable and the testing compiz, and neither worked. The testing one segfaulted and the unstable one complained about not finding symbols in libraries. Interestingly enough, for a while aptitude somehow managed to install testing packages of Compiz alongside unstable ones. I thought that should be a conflict, but aptitude didn't think so. My question is, can anyone else confirm? Or is this again a case of "testing works great, you must be doing something wrong"? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox in 32-bit chroot
On 02/06/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:24:05PM -0500, Jordi Guti?rrez Hermoso wrote: > > On 29/05/2008, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm attempting to run firefox in a 32-bit chroot > > > > Why? Do you really need to do this? Or is this just one of those > > things you want to do for the geek points? > > If he's running Etch amd64, what other alternative is there? Last I > looked, the wrapper package (whatever the name is) can't be back-ported > from Lenny. I beg your pardon? http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/nspluginwrapper HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox in 32-bit chroot
On 29/05/2008, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm attempting to run firefox in a 32-bit chroot Why? Do you really need to do this? Or is this just one of those things you want to do for the geek points? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Civil engineering software
On 01/06/2008, Shams Fantar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for civil engineering sofwares. Do you know a software for > the calculs of forces, the stability of forces, etc. ? I'm not sure if you're comfortable setting up and solving the PDEs yourself, but if you are, you should examine freefem and freefem3d. Depending how much of a numericist you are, you may also be interested in Octave. HTH, - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Left speaker gets no sound but both earphones do
I'm using an Inspiron 1420 laptop. The sound is an Intel chipset. lspci says: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) A while ago, perhaps during an upgrade, perhaps during a physical accident, I lost sound on my left speaker. This had happened before when for mysterious reason I managed to mute the left channel only. This time, though, I looked around in alsamixer, and it doesn't look like the left channel is muted. Furthermore, if I plug in the headphones, I do get sound in both channels. Is anyone else experiencing something similar? Please tell me that this isn't a hardware problem. :-( - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 4.1 beta 1
On 29/05/2008, Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't know there was experimental AND unstable... Experimental isn't a full distribution. You can't have a full experimental installation. It just has a few packages that are considered too unstable for unstable. Deemed to have a higher probability of inducing data loss and such. > so I should just wait and continue updating.. and wait til it trickles down > to > testing. I heard many reports of KDE 4.0 being too buggy for use, but if you're feeling adventurous and don't mind sidestepping Debian's package management, you could always install KDE from source and file bug reports. Tell the rest of us how it goes. :-) I'm tempted to do so myself. I've been using Gnome for a while because I got sick of KDE's Windowish complexity, but the screenshots for the newer KDE may sway me back to the kside. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DRM PDFs
On 28/05/2008, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK the DRM in pdf files that prevent you from printing or copying text > rely on the application to honor the restrictions. So you should just be > able to download the source of whatever application you are using (xpdf, > kpdf, evince, pdftk) and comment out the code that checks for these > restrictions. Opening the proverbial can of worms, could Debian patch the upstream xpdf in this way? More convenient for all of us. I think circumventing DRM is only illegal in some countries. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blocking Gmail ads
On 25/05/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now as to whether misappropriating that source code is a crime is > beyond my knowledge. debian-legal would probably know. I'm starting to think it is, because you do not receive a license if you don't obtain the code by legal means. Which further makes me think what exactly constitutes receiving a license. Anyways. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Blocking Gmail ads
On 24/05/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Setting that aside, you bring up an interesting point. If I take GPLed > > code, I modify it internally, and somehow it leaks outside, is the > > person who takes it infringing copyright or not? I say they're not, > > since the code isn't copyrighted to me even if I modified it. On the > > other hand, they can't force me to distribute the source either, since > > I didn't convey the code, right? It just got leaked somehow. > > > > Curious hypothetical situation. > > The person who "leaked" it is the one doing the distribution or > "conveying". So the person who leaks the modified GPL code is the one who has to make sure the source is also available? That's weird. :-) > They are guilty of misappropriating your code and of > violating the license agreement. Are they violating the GPL by distributing the code? The only way that the GPL says you can't distribute anything is with its "liberty or death" clause. It says that if you cannot distribute it under the terms of the GPL (so that you would also need access to the source code), then you can't distribute it at all. I guess that if you want to leak the code, you have to leak all of it. Since Airbus doesn't have copyright on the code they modified (the original authors who GPLed it still have that copyright, under the interpretation of derived works), they can't claim copyright infringement. Anyways, it seems to me that at least in spirit, someone who manages to distribute secretly-modified GPLed code is not doing any wrong. Like we say in Spanish, "ladrón que roba a ladrón, tiene cien años de perdón" (a thief who steals from another thief has a hundred years of forgiveness). - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: C++ help
On 22/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu May 22 2008 06:34:27 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > The first thing to note is that neither of these is your original > example, so it would be better if you had written "the *only* > difference between the two examples above is the access specifiers". The only difference is I added a "using A::f" > You then complain that it doesn't work when you try to "using" a > private function. No, I am "using" a function that is both overloaded to private and public. But the compiler gets confused depending on the access specifier. Why should it attempt to use the private function when the access specifier is public but will happily use the public function when the access specifier is public? You keep talking about scope. The access specifier should affect scope and name resolution? This does not make sense! The public function is available, a using declaration should bring that function from A's scope into B's scope, but the compiler tries to resolve the call "b.f(a)" call to the inaccessible private function anyways. Why should this make sense? For the record, both of the snippets above compile on the Comeau C++ compiler, furthering my suspicion that this is a gcc bug. > Had you quoted the compiler's message to you, > which was probably "error: 'virtual void A::f(foo)' is private", I thought you could easily run the programs yourself and see the compiler error for yourself. > it would be immediately obvious that EITHER you know nothing of C++ > INCLUSIVE OR you're deliberately wasting bandwidth on this list. No, I'm just loudmouthed, just as much as you are, and I yell a little less, too ;-) > > > But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so > > > you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds > > > have already pondered. > > > > Well, those great minds seem to be too great for me to fathom, because > > I really don't see why it seems here that a function's signature isn't > > enough to specify it, and they saw it fit to make sure I couldn't both > > I overload and inherit three related but different functions. > > > Exactly. Overload ambiguities are resolved in scope, not beyond. Why do g++ and Comeau disagree here? Shouldn't the using declaration bring A's functions into scope? Why is it that supposedly bringing them into scope still results in g++ trying to call the inaccessible private function and that making that inaccessible private function public suddenly results in g++ calling the right function that was public all along? > Thousands of people, some of them much smarter than > you or I, have not only decided that C++ should do this (which could > be a bug) but explained at great length and in great detail why C++ > works this way (thus showing that it is not a bug). Bah. Thousands of people could never be wrong, eh? Anyways, I don't think this is thousands of people being wrong, but just the g++ devs making a small mistake. > You have been given a precise reference to a good example of such an > explanation but you ignore it. Inaccessible. I don't have that book, and it's not in my local library. > This was offtopic anyway. I labelled it as such, so that those who didn't want to read about it could ignore it. > if you still have questions address them to a C++ forum. I've done that, but I thought I could pick the brains of Debian users anyways. If your brain is not available for picking, then just ignore this thread. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: C++ help
On 21/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed May 21 2008 20:01:10 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>
> > So what's the fix here? Why does a using A::f declaration inside class
> > B not work?
>
>
> There's no f(int) in scope, only int(foo).
No, no, wait. This makes no sense. Consider
class foo{};
class A{
public:
void f(int a ){a++;};
private:
virtual void f(foo a) = 0;
};
class B : public A{
public:
using A::f;
private:
virtual void f(foo a){};
};
int main(){
B b;
int a=0;
b.f(a);
}
versus
class foo{};
class A{
public:
void f(int a ){a++;};
public:
virtual void f(foo a) = 0;
};
class B : public A{
public:
using A::f;
public:
virtual void f(foo a){};
};
int main(){
B b;
int a=0;
b.f(a);
}
The *only* thing that changed is the access specifiers. For some
reason, the name lookup works and it seems that the compiler
understands that "using A::f" means "A::f(int)" when some function is
public but fails when the function is private, and tries instead to
interpret "using A::f" as "A::f(C)". The first example fails to
compile, but the second one does.
> But the best solution is to read up on WHY C++ works this way so
> you can understand the implications that thousands of great minds
> have already pondered.
Well, those great minds seem to be too great for me to fathom, because
I really don't see why it seems here that a function's signature isn't
enough to specify it, and they saw it fit to make sure I couldn't both
I overload and inherit three related but different functions.
C++ isn't perfect, the standard isn't gospel, and I'm beginning to
suspect a bug in gcc.
- Jordi G. H.
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Re: OT: C++ help
On 21/05/2008, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed May 21 2008 19:00:27 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > > The problem seems to be that all of my functions being named f are > > somehow colliding with each other. > > > Annotated C++ Reference Manual, Ellis & Stroustrup, Section 13.1 > (Declaration Matching). "A function member of a derived class is > not in the same scope as a function member of the same name in a > base class." So what's the fix here? Why does a using A::f declaration inside class B not work? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: C++ help
Feel free to redirect me to a better place to ask if you know of one.
The following code will not compile:
class foo{};
class A{
public:
void f(int a ){a++;};
private:
virtual void f(foo a) = 0;
};
class B : public A{
private:
virtual void f(foo a){};
};
int main(){
B b;
int a=0;
b.f(a);
}
The problem seems to be that all of my functions being named f are
somehow colliding with each other. It seems to me that the
call b.f(a) is unambiguosly pointing to A::f(int), but gcc disagrees.
I can fix this if I namespace the b.f(a) call, but that's a little
ugly. I can also fix it if I put a forwarding function inside B that
calls the proper function inside A, also a little ugly. I could also
mangle my functions' names, but I really feel that's the compiler's
job, not mine, especially since I think I already provided enough
context with a function signature.
If a using declaration should be enough to fix this, where should I
place? Or a better fix?
Thanks,
- Jordi G. H.
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Re: Anti-gaming Behaviour of Keyboard Driver
On 20/05/2008, Dmitryi & Elf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Out of curiousity, does this happen with Nexuiz as well? > Not installed. > Uhm, so aptitude install nexuiz. It would be interesting to know if other Quake or modified Quake engines also experience this problem. Also, do you have an xmodmap active? - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alt-gr key not working correctly under X after a testing upgrade
2008/5/19 Julien Barnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I recently made a «dist-upgrade» on my Thinkpad T21 laptop under > Debian testing (xerver-xorg v7.3+10, kernel 2.6.24-6). Another one with keyboard problems... do we have a filed bug for this already? My own keyboard also got wonky about last week or so. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
