Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-31 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 31, 12:50 am, John Hasler  wrote:
> Sian writes:
> > The drawback to a newsreader is that one has to PAY for the use of a
> > Usenet server.
>
> Not true:
> 
> 
> 
I have not registered with eternal-september.org, installed xpn
newsreader, configured it and am now reading
linux.debian.user with a newsreader. Bye bye google groups! :-)
> > As a Linux user, I am not used to having to pay for internet usage.
>
> Your ISP charges you nothing?
> --
> John Hasler
I have Wifi access to broadband for £6/month otherwise nothing.


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Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-31 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 7:50 pm, Robert Holtzman  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:12:56PM -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > I have just discovered that lsmod for Ubuntu 11.10 gives iwl3945 with
> > a size of 73329 whereas
> > lsmod for Debian squeeze give a size of 46000. So my problem appears
> > to be due to a faulty
> > kernel module. My Debian squeeze system uses linux-image-2.6.32-5-686
> > whereas Ubuntu 11.10
> > uses 3.0.0 kernel.
>
> what NIC are you running?

What is an NIC?


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Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic

2011-10-31 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 31, 7:20 pm, "poenik...@operamail.com"
 wrote:
> On Oct 31, 12:40 am, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> > Also, I recommend that you read
>
> >    http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm
>
> > for a fairly comprehensive tutorial on kernel building in Debian which
> > documents many common "gotchas" in kernel building.  For example, there
> > is a patch to kernel-package which is needed in some circumstances
> > when building a version 3 kernel with make-kpkg.  The patch is documented
> > on the above web page.  And, depending on which boot loader you use,
> > you may need to install some hook scripts when using a custom kernel
> > with Squeeze and later releases.  This is also documented on the
> > above web page.
>
> > --
> >   .''`.     Stephen Powell    
> >  : :'  :
> >  `. `'`
>
> I followed the instructions given in Kernel.htm and built a kernel
> from the source tree I had
> downloaded fromwww.kernel.orgafter issuing make-kpkg debian. I also
> patched kernel-package
> using the patch file (linuxv3.diff) mentioned on the web page.
>
> I also used make localmodconfig to greatly reduce the number of
> modules actually compiled.
> Compiling the kernel took 34 mins on my 1.6GHz laptop.
>
> I installed the kernel using dpkg as root, checked that an initramfs
> image had been created, closed down
> and rebooted.
>
> The kernel loaded, entered runlevel 2, but commands that tried to
> write to the fs failed because it was
> still readonly. The kernel finally hung with nfsd. ctrl-alt-del
> successfully rebooted. I shall recompile
> the kernel without NFS support because I don't need it.

I removed NFS stuff and recompiled the kernel. I also removed the
packages nfs-kernel-server and
nfs-common.

After rebooting with the new kernel, it loaded, hung at points and
eventually gave me a tty login
prompt. I could login as sian as well as root, but the file system was
still read-only. I suspect that
GNOME has to be able to write to the fs so that is why I only got a
tty prompt.

Some messages emitted by the kernel when loading:
-
Can't open or create /var/run/syslogd.pid
Unknown hardware ThinkPad EC
touch: setting times of /var/lib/sudo: Read-only file system
--
What do I do next? At least the kernel loads and gives me a prompt. I
don't understand why the
file system is still read-only.


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Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic

2011-10-31 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 31, 12:40 am, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:24:28 -0400 (EDT), poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
>
> > I downloaded the source for kernel version 3.0.4 fromwww.kernel.org.
> > ...
> > I then ploughed through all the options, removing modules where I was
> > sure I did not have
> > the relevant hardware.
> > ...
> > I closed down squeeze, rebooted and chose the new 3.0.4 kernel. It
> > displayed an
> > error message (kernel panic) to the effect that it could not load the
> > root fs.
>
> > What have I done wrong?
>
> I would recommend using something like "make localmodconfig" to strip
> out drivers your hardware doesn't need.  There are many hidden
> dependencies, such as SCSI support, that are not obvious.
> Also, I recommend that you read
>
>    http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm
>
> for a fairly comprehensive tutorial on kernel building in Debian which
> documents many common "gotchas" in kernel building.  For example, there
> is a patch to kernel-package which is needed in some circumstances
> when building a version 3 kernel with make-kpkg.  The patch is documented
> on the above web page.  And, depending on which boot loader you use,
> you may need to install some hook scripts when using a custom kernel
> with Squeeze and later releases.  This is also documented on the
> above web page.
>
> --
>   .''`.     Stephen Powell    
>  : :'  :
>  `. `'`
I followed the instructions given in Kernel.htm and built a kernel
from the source tree I had
downloaded from www.kernel.org after issuing make-kpkg debian. I also
patched kernel-package
using the patch file (linuxv3.diff) mentioned on the web page.

I also used make localmodconfig to greatly reduce the number of
modules actually compiled.
Compiling the kernel took 34 mins on my 1.6GHz laptop.

I installed the kernel using dpkg as root, checked that an initramfs
image had been created, closed down
and rebooted.

The kernel loaded, entered runlevel 2, but commands that tried to
write to the fs failed because it was
still readonly. The kernel finally hung with nfsd. ctrl-alt-del
successfully rebooted. I shall recompile
the kernel without NFS support because I don't need it.


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Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 10:30 pm, "poenik...@operamail.com"
 wrote:
> On Oct 30, 9:30 pm, Camaleón  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:49:06 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > > On Oct 30, 1:50 pm, Camaleón  wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:29:47 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > >> > Thank you for your tip.
>
> > >> (...)
>
> > >> Please, keep the postings that share the same subject in the same
> > >> thread instead opening a new one every time you add information and
> > >> also keep the quotes in your replies, it makes very difficult to follow
> > >> your messages.
>
> > > Thank you for your comments. I have just found the reply button on
> > > google groups which provides all the quoted text.
>
> > Great :-)
>
> > May I ask why are are you using Google Groups? This mailing list is open,
> > so you can follow-up/post here by means of an e-mail client and/or
> > newsreader :-?
>
> > > I did not know that I was creating a new thread each time I posted. I
> > > used the same subject for each post
> > > and they all seem to appear under the same topic.
>
> > There is something strange with your postings and is that they're missing
> > the "References:" and/or "In-Reply-To:" tags in the header so your
> > messages render unthreaded in my newsreader. While they can look like
> > threaded in Google Groups they're not on common MUAs.
>
> > Greetings,
>
> > --
> > Camaleón
>
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> Thanks for your remarks. I use Ubuntu 11.10 and firefox to access
> Google Groups. I don't have a newsreader.
> I am not even sure that Ubuntu has such an animal.
>

The drawback to a newsreader is that one has to PAY for the use of a
Usenet server. Google groups
is FREE of CHARGE and certainly enables me to post pure text messages.

As a Linux user, I am not used to having to pay for internet usage.

Sian


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Usenet news - server required

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
Can anybody suggest a Usenet server? I am in the UK.
Ubuntu has three newsreaders available, one for GNUstep, one called
pan newsreader
and another called xpn Newsreader. Which one to use (maybe I should
try all three).

Sian


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Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 8:10 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > I downloaded the source for kernel version 3.0.4 fromwww.kernel.org.
> > I then booted to the
> > Deiban squeeze partition and as superuser, unpacked the kernel source
> > in one of my own
> > directories.
>
> > I ran make targets to get what config commands were available. I
> > installed qt4-dev files from
> > the Debian squeeze DVD and did make xconfig which gave me a
> > configuration screen for
> > the new kernel source.
>
> > I then ploughed through all the options, removing modules where I was
> > sure I did not have
> > the relevant hardware. I eventually did make-kpkg clean, then  make-
> > kpkg debian and then
> > make-kpkg --targets, chose
> > binary and issued
> >             make-kpkg binary
> > The kernel was compiled and after much activity, make-kpkg returned me
> > to the command
> > line. In the directory above the top of the source tree were a number
> > of Debian packages
> > which included linux-image-3.0.4_3.0.4-10.00.Custom_i386.deb which I
> > installed using
> > dpkg. grub was run which found the Linux kernels as well as Ubuntu
> > 11.10.
>
> > I closed down squeeze, rebooted and chose the new 3.0.4 kernel. It
> > displayed an
> > error message (kernel panic) to the effect that it could not load the
> > root fs.
>
> > What have I done wrong?
>
> > I remember not choosing the option for an initramfs. What would be put
> > in it if I had
> > chosen that option?
>
> I use:
> make-kpkg --revision 1 --append-to-version -amd64 --initrd kernel_image
>
> which installs an initrd.img for an initramfs, but it will depend upon
> the config that you ended up with.
>
> Hugo
>

I tried this and got a kernel image which installed ok, but when I
rebooted into it, it gave the
following:
Loading, please wait...
there then followed a definite pause followed by these messages:
Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems:
- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline)
  - Check rootdelay
  - Check root (did the system wait for the right device?)
  - Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)
ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/long number string does not exist.

I suspect that my configuration of the kernel is at fault, but where
should I start looking for problems?


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Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 9:30 pm, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:49:06 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 30, 1:50 pm, Camaleón  wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:29:47 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> >> > Thank you for your tip.
>
> >> (...)
>
> >> Please, keep the postings that share the same subject in the same
> >> thread instead opening a new one every time you add information and
> >> also keep the quotes in your replies, it makes very difficult to follow
> >> your messages.
>
> > Thank you for your comments. I have just found the reply button on
> > google groups which provides all the quoted text.
>
> Great :-)
>
> May I ask why are are you using Google Groups? This mailing list is open,
> so you can follow-up/post here by means of an e-mail client and/or
> newsreader :-?
>
> > I did not know that I was creating a new thread each time I posted. I
> > used the same subject for each post
> > and they all seem to appear under the same topic.
>
> There is something strange with your postings and is that they're missing
> the "References:" and/or "In-Reply-To:" tags in the header so your
> messages render unthreaded in my newsreader. While they can look like
> threaded in Google Groups they're not on common MUAs.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
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Thanks for your remarks. I use Ubuntu 11.10 and firefox to access
Google Groups. I don't have a newsreader.
I am not even sure that Ubuntu has such an animal.

Regards, Sian


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Re: creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 6:50 pm, "poenik...@operamail.com"
 wrote:
> I downloaded the source for kernel version 3.0.4 fromwww.kernel.org.
> I then booted to the
> Deiban squeeze partition and as superuser, unpacked the kernel source
> in one of my own
> directories.
>
> I ran make targets to get what config commands were available. I
> installed qt4-dev files from
> the Debian squeeze DVD and did make xconfig which gave me a
> configuration screen for
> the new kernel source.
>
> I then ploughed through all the options, removing modules where I was
> sure I did not have
> the relevant hardware. I eventually did make-kpkg clean, then  make-
> kpkg debian and then
> make-kpkg --targets, chose
> binary and issued
>             make-kpkg binary
> The kernel was compiled and after much activity, make-kpkg returned me
> to the command
> line. In the directory above the top of the source tree were a number
> of Debian packages
> which included linux-image-3.0.4_3.0.4-10.00.Custom_i386.deb which I
> installed using
> dpkg. grub was run which found the Linux kernels as well as Ubuntu
> 11.10.
>
> I closed down squeeze, rebooted and chose the new 3.0.4 kernel. It
> displayed an
> error message (kernel panic) to the effect that it could not load the
> root fs.
>
> What have I done wrong?
>
> I remember not choosing the option for an initramfs. What would be put
> in it if I had
> chosen that option?
>
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Here is the screen output for the kernel panic:-

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-
block(0.0)
Pid: 1. comm:swapper Not tainted 3.0.4 #1
Call trace:
[] ? panic+0x4d/0x137
[] ? mount_block_root+0x1e6/0x1fa
[] ? parse_early_options+0x18/0x18
[] ? mount_root+0x39/0x4d
[] ? parse_early_options+0x18/0x18
[] ? prepare_namespace+0x105/0x135
[] ? kernel_init+0xe9/0xf2
[] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0xd
-
The computer locked and only continually pressing the on/off button
worked.

Any help appreciated. I can upload the .config file, but obviously not
to this user group
because it is 70KB long! :-)

Regards,  Sian


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Re: Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
On Oct 30, 1:50 pm, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Oct 2011 05:29:47 -0700, poenik...@operamail.com wrote:
> > Thank you for your tip.
>
> (...)
>
> Please, keep the postings that share the same subject in the same thread
> instead opening a new one every time you add information and also keep
> the quotes in your replies, it makes very difficult to follow your
> messages.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
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Thank you for your comments. I have just found the reply button on
google groups which provides all the quoted
text.

I did not know that I was creating a new thread each time I posted. I
used the same subject for each post
and they all seem to appear under the same topic.

Regards

Sian


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creaing new 3.0.4 kernel in squeeze --kernel panic

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I downloaded the source for kernel version 3.0.4 from www.kernel.org.
I then booted to the
Deiban squeeze partition and as superuser, unpacked the kernel source
in one of my own
directories.

I ran make targets to get what config commands were available. I
installed qt4-dev files from
the Debian squeeze DVD and did make xconfig which gave me a
configuration screen for
the new kernel source.

I then ploughed through all the options, removing modules where I was
sure I did not have
the relevant hardware. I eventually did make-kpkg clean, then  make-
kpkg debian and then
make-kpkg --targets, chose
binary and issued
make-kpkg binary
The kernel was compiled and after much activity, make-kpkg returned me
to the command
line. In the directory above the top of the source tree were a number
of Debian packages
which included linux-image-3.0.4_3.0.4-10.00.Custom_i386.deb which I
installed using
dpkg. grub was run which found the Linux kernels as well as Ubuntu
11.10.

I closed down squeeze, rebooted and chose the new 3.0.4 kernel. It
displayed an
error message (kernel panic) to the effect that it could not load the
root fs.

What have I done wrong?

I remember not choosing the option for an initramfs. What would be put
in it if I had
chosen that option?


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-30 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
Thank you for your tip. I set wlan0 as the wireless device, but wicd
still said no wireless
connection.

I have decided to download the latest 3.0.4 stable kernel source from
www.kernel.org
and try using make-kpkg to make a new Debian package with the new
kernel configured
for my laptop. Watch this space for news. :-)


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I've repacked linux-image-3.0.0-2-generic, wireless-crda and udev and
have now
discovered that I cannot install the udev package because it breaks
package linux-base.
So I cannot install the later kernel.

It looks as though I shall have to forget using wifi on Debian
squeeze.

Has anybody got any ideas?


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I have just discovered that lsmod for Ubuntu 11.10 gives iwl3945 with
a size of 73329 whereas
lsmod for Debian squeeze give a size of 46000. So my problem appears
to be due to a faulty
kernel module. My Debian squeeze system uses linux-image-2.6.32-5-686
whereas Ubuntu 11.10
uses 3.0.0 kernel.

Can anybody recall the package which reconstitutes a Debian package?

If I can use the Ubuntu kernel maybe the wifi will work on squeeze
also.


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xboing has no sound on squeeze

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I have just downloaded xboing and installed it onto Debian squeeze. It
runs, but there is no
sound!  The joy of using xboing comes partly from the delicious sounds
which the game
emits. So what has happened to the sound? I checked the sound device
and it works.
This is a serious matter! xboing without sound is not on.

What's happened to xboing?


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
Well, I tried wicd again and now it sits in the gnome-panel but tells
me that there is no
network interface.

I have now gone through all the commands given in the
WirelessTroubleshootinjg file in the
Ubuntu help system.

lspci detects the Wifi 3945 device
lsmod shows iwl3945
iwlist scan shows wlan0 channel 8 Link quality 32/70 correct ESSID no
acceess point
rfkill list -- no such command
iwconfig wlan0 channel 8 works, but iwconfig wlan0 shows no access
point.
dhclient wlan0 does not work -- had to ^C it.
ping -c 4 127.0.0.1 works
ping -c 4 192.168.11.26 gives Network unreachable
iproute2 -- command not found

So, it appears that the device driver is loaded, one of the iwlwifi
firmware files is known
the network device is known, bu still no connection.

I am posting this message using Ubuntu 11.10 on the same laptop as the
Debian system.


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I installed wicd, but it gave lots of python error messages, so I
purged it from the system.


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-29 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I have been doing some investigation. modprobe removes and reinstalls
module iwl3945.
The firmware files are installed by package firmware-iwlwifi in /lib/
firmware. The module
iwl3945.ko is provided with linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 as is iwagn.ko
and iwlcore.ko. iwlcore
is in use according to modprobe.

wpa_supplicant is running. [iwl3945] is a process.

ifocnfig wlan0 gives a MAC address which is set in the NetworkManager.
iwconfig wlan0
gives Mode: managed and Acess Point: Not-Associated.

iwlist wlan0 scanning gives Cell 01 with ESSID = PC_Area, a different
MAC address and
Quality: 40/70

According to the NetworkManager applet, Wireless Networks: device not
managed

Ubuntu 11.10 gies an ipv4 address which is different from that used in
Debian.
Changed the one in Debian using the NM applet, but ifconfig still uses
the old ipv4
address. Will this affect the device being managed?

I cannot see what else to do to get the wifi working with Debian
squeeze. Has
anybody got any ideas?


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Wifi with squeeze on Lenovo X61s laptop - difficulties

2011-10-28 Thread poenik...@operamail.com
I have installed Ubuntu 11.10 on one partition and Debian squeeze on
another.

Ubuntu asked for the ESSID and WPA2 password and connected fine.

Debian squeeze installer asked for firmware to be installed from
removable media
but failed to load the files from CD-ROM. So wifi does not work.

I have installed the firmware-iwlwifi package and have checked that
the firmware
files required are in /lib/firmware.

Is there any way I can get the firmware loaded once squeeze is
installed so that
wifi will work?

I am using linux-image-2.6.32-5-686.


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