Re: debian vs others
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 09:00:17AM -0500, Rick Knebel wrote: So anyone out there who uses debian now who used to use one of the distro's, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you like about it better. I used to use Slackware -- no real package management system at all. I did everything (as far as installs, upgrades) by hand. I got to know the linux system decent enough, but after a while it got old. Plus, Slackware's not to up on security, as far as I'm concerned. Like package management, security is left to the administrator. I was firmly against package management, though, but I have Debian a try, and I've been completely happy since. I would seriously give Debian a try. Plus, I feel it holds truest to the Linux open source notion or motto or whatever you wanna call it. shrug Also do you think debian will continued to be developed? I read somewhere that the head of the progect quite because he thought the progress was not fast enough. This may be inaccurate, but I believe somebody left the Debian team because of a conflict of interest. RedHat and Caldera and the like are driven by profits. RedHat markets its software, gets the name out, etc -- hence, you have several other distributions using the Redhat packaging system (rpm). Debian is more of the silent dignity type -- I suppose less folks even know OF debian, just because Redhat is more profilific. Hence, I think Debian is the only distrib using the Debian package management system (as far as I know). You could say Debian is just more thorough because it's quality-drivin, because there are no commercial interests. Because of this, I think Debian tends to have more stable releases. Not that redhat is all bad or anything, it's just a matter of how the two work. I've never used Redhat. I doubt I will, too, because I'm completely happy with Debian. It usually boils down to a matter of personal preference and/or personal experience. Good luck
Re: /bin/sh vs. /bin/bash
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 08:46:38AM +0200, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: I recently installed an other shell than bash as /bin/sh (ash precisly) just to test the systems behaviour and noticed that some scripts stopped working correctly. For example, /etc/init.d/rcS had problems executing some scripts (e.g., loading the keymap). I changed it to be #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh. This is perhaps my only gripe against Debian. I too would like to link /bin/sh to /bin/ash, but I ran into too many script problems, and I don't want to change all of them to use /bin/bash. A script that calls /bin/sh should ONLY use standard /bin/sh functions, and not the extra features presented by /bin/bash. I've heard of folks getting faster boot times when they link /bin/sh to /bin/ash instead of bash. I think bash is nice and it's good to use its extra features, but for simplicity's sake, start the script out as #!/bin/bash. shrug
file-rc vs. sysV init (was: enabling bootpc at startup)
On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 08:19:34AM +0200, Torsten Hilbrich wrote: On: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:11:30 -0500 the lone gunman writes: On my Debian 1.3 system, I installed the package which removes the sysV style init scripts and installs the /etc/runlevel.conf system. I did not see this package in my hamm install. Did I overlook it? Yes, it's called file-rc and to be found in stable/main/admin. BTW: Search the package file for runlevel.conf and you will find it. Why is file-rc not the default, just out of curiosity. I found it much more intuitive, and a bit easier and faster to maintain. The default sysV init scripts took me a bit longer to figure out. I would install file-rc agian, but I have a worry. I noticed when updating/installing new packages with file-rc installed, I get a *LOT* of errors that are something like: update-rc.d: integer expected or something leading me to believe that dpkg still tries to run the update-rc.d script used in a sysV init system, while update-rc.d is obsolete if file-rc is used. Any comments on this? Is this perhaps fixed in Hamm? Thanks
squake/xquake for libc6 linux (hamm)?
I've got hamm installed on my system, and naturally I have libc6 installed. I did not upgrade, but rather did a fresh install from cd, so libc5 is nowhere on my system. I'd like to run quake on my system. Is there any of the following avaible: xquake/squake source that can be compiled with libc6 xquake/squake binary compiled with libc6 xquake/squake binary compiled statically against libc5 and not neccessarily in a debian package, I'll take anything... ? Thanks
Re: Netscape Navigator
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 01:05:42AM +0200, Peter Granroth wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:02:18PM -0500, the lone gunman shared with us the following words of wisdom: On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 02:52:26PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: The netscape license (until this past january, and no releases have been made since then) didn't allow us to redistribute the netscape binaries. You have to download them from ftp.netscape.com. Put them in /tmp, download the installer .deb, and dpkg -i it. It'll take care of setting up netscape and putting it in the right parts of the file tree, etc. .. What is the file name of the Netscape installer deb file? netscape4_4.0-12.deb Is that for the hamm system? I got that file, and it said I need to install libc5, among other things associated with bo. Plus, does that install the latest Navigator, 4.5pr1, compiled for linux with libc6?
where is NNTPSERVER variable set?
I moved back to school, and now must use a different news server than the one I used at home. Where do I change where the NNTPSERVER environment variable is originally initialized? Changing /etc/nntpserver doesn't seem to do it. Thanks
Re: correct procedure for make-kpkg
On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 02:17:50AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, the == the lone gunman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the What is the correct procedure for building a home-grown custom kernel the with make-kpkg? What are the steps from installing the kernal source the package to installing the new, roll-your-own kernel? Please read /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. I had hoped that this document would be reasonably detailed; however, if you find it deficient, I would appreciate feedback so that I may improve it. Yes, yes. I apologize -- after posting the message, I realized the /usr/doc/ hierarchy. My fault entirely. Your document spells out everything perfectly. Sometimes it's just easier to ask rather than look myself. Thanks again!
correct procedure for make-kpkg
What is the correct procedure for building a home-grown custom kernel with make-kpkg? What are the steps from installing the kernal source package to installing the new, roll-your-own kernel? Thanks!
enabling bootpc at startup
On my Debian 1.3 system, I installed the package which removes the sysV style init scripts and installs the /etc/runlevel.conf system. I did not see this package in my hamm install. Did I overlook it? I ask, because I would like to enable bootpc on my computer at startup. All I need to do is run the script that comes with the bootpc source (rc.bootpc) and my system is setup properly. Does someone know the correct way to achieve this with the SysV startup scripts that I currently don't fully comprehend? Thank you!
Re: Netscape Navigator
On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 02:52:26PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: The netscape license (until this past january, and no releases have been made since then) didn't allow us to redistribute the netscape binaries. You have to download them from ftp.netscape.com. Put them in /tmp, download the installer .deb, and dpkg -i it. It'll take care of setting up netscape and putting it in the right parts of the file tree, etc. .. What is the file name of the Netscape installer deb file?
Re: xv package for deb?
On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 10:34:43PM +0200, Michele Bini wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, the lone gunman wrote: Is there an xv package for debian? By xv, I mean the XView program by John Bradley. Do you really need xv?! Have you ever tried GIMP? If you only need to put an image on the background you can use xpmroot (it only takes only xpm files, but you can convert them using GIMP or the netpbm package). I do use xv for my root window image, however I also use it to view several images in sequence. The GIMP is nice, but a bit too much for simple image viewing. Also, I believe xv is free for non-commercial/private use. Thanks, though. I think I'll install the gimp for something to play with :)
moving fvwm windows by thier handles
As per my Debian 1.3 fvwm2 configuration, I could move windows by clicking and holding on any part of the border and title. That is, I could click and hold on the handles that surround a window, or the title bar and move my window around. I could only resize the window by explicit command or by those smallish L shaped corners on the windows. Now, the handles resize the window. For instance, if I display an image under xv that is big enough to push the title bar off the screen, I really can't move the window. I would like to go back to my old setup, but I do not know which fvwm2 command to use in the config file. Anyone know what I need? Thank you!
some email won't go...
I asked earlier about having an incorrect hostname, and it affecting emails (i.e. some email doesn't go through). Here's a copy of a returned email (the references to sewage are my hostname; I have my hostname setup as sewage): From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Aug 19 19:43:05 1998 Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from sewage by sewage via smail with bsmtp id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for lgunman; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:43:04 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lgunman Subject: mail failed, returning to sender Reference: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO Content-Length: 587 Lines: 14 |- Failed addresses follow: -| address_of_intended_receiver ... transport smtp: 501 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... invalid host name sewage, check your configuration. |- Message text follows: | Received: by sewage via send-mail from stdin id [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for unknown; Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:43:02 -0500 (CDT) From: lgunman (the lone gunman) To: address_of_intended_receiver Subject: test [body not included]
Re: CD-RW experiences?
On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 02:04:41AM -0700, Dan Hugo wrote: I am thinking about getting a CD-RW drive to archive things, and maybe even to maintain an up-to-date Debian CD set. Does anyone have any experience with these drives? I have no experience with CD-RW, but do own a CD-R... Or, I could get a CD-R drive, about which there is much more info (I read through the CD-ROM/CD-writing HOWTOs, and a list of compatible drives, but it was mostly CD-R biased). I have an internal SCSI Plextor PlexWriter 4/12 CD-R. Works great, first burn was perfect. It was easy to setup and use, as far as following the Linux CD-R Howto. I'd say you really can't go wrong with CD-R. I know the CD-RW discs are significantly more expensive than plain old CD-R. I've seen CD-R discs given away for free with rebate deals and such. And CD-RW discs seem to run at over $15 a pop (US). Whichever you decide on, R or RW, and if you go SCSI, make sure your cable has the correct number of pins. I got mine, realized the burner was a 50 pin male, and my cable was a 68 pin male. I had to just look at my burner for a week while I waited on the order of my adapter. Good luck!
goofy email fixed
A few messages back, I posted questions about changing my hostname and some emails not going through. I figured out how to fix this problem, perhaps this post will help someone else with a similar problem. During the Debian 2.0 installation, I was asked for a hostname -- I entered sewage for my hostname, and did no further net setup because I use PPP to connect to the internet (and this is what the installation recommends, if you know what I'm talking about). Apparently, the Debian setup took this value (sewage), and added that to my /etc/smail/config file, giving the lines: visible_name=sewage hostnames=sewage I simply changed these lines to the following: visible_name=localhost hostnames=localhost:sewage Hopefully this hack will keep things rolling. shrug Matt
Re: Linux security
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 11:46:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was having a discussion with my ISP about Linux. He said he uses Windows NT because it is much more secure than Linux. He stated that since the source code was available that it was very unsecure. I have trouble with this statement. It seems to me, with the source code open and available, *anyone* can take a gander at Linux's source. Naturally, hundreds of people can see where there are potential security holes in the code. All Windows systems are limited only to the Microsoft programmers. In my mind, it just seems that the more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of discovering bugs, security concerns, etc. He mentioned something about attaining root access by downloading /etc/passwd and de-crypting the passwords. He bases this on a The only sensible way to run a multi-user Linux system (e.g., an ISP), is with shadow passwords. *Only* root can read the shadow password file (/etc/shadow). By the time the root account is compromised, /etc/shadow really doesn't mean much. I wouldn't put too much confidence in the person with whom you spoke at your ISP. Gook luck!
xv package for deb?
Is there an xv package for debian? By xv, I mean the XView program by John Bradley. When migrating from Debian 1.3 to 2.0, I just backed up the important stuff, and did a total reinstall. (Too many upgrade problems posted to this mailing list scared me :). Anyway, I had xv on my Deb 1.3 system, and I believe I had to get the source and apply a patch to get xv for my system. Does anyone know where these files are? I did a search for xv in the packages list on Debian's website and nothing came up. Any hints?
Re: Slab [Re: Audio Stuffffff]
On Tue, Aug 18, 1998 at 01:02:14PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Michele Bini hat gesagt: // Michele Bini wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:37:15 PDT , phillip Neumann said: Unfortunatley SLab refuses to work with my old and dusty Mozart soundcard, so I can't say anything regarding its functionality. I've installed it, but didn't really get anywhere with it. To do what I really want it to do, anyway, I'd need to buy the full duplex drivers for my SoundBlaster AWE32. My question: has anyone used the SB AWE32 with slab and had good results? Thanks!
Re: Linux security
On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 11:42:25AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:21:37 -0500, the lone gunman wrote: only to the Microsoft programmers. In my mind, it just seems that the more folks there are looking at code, the better the chances of discovering bugs, security concerns, etc. It is the glass half empty versus the glass half full problem. He sees the glass half empty. Open source means more people looking for security holes to *exploit*. You see the glass half full. Open source means more people looking for security holes to *plug*. I think the linux community can boast that it fixes exploits pretty quickly. Although exploits may be easier to discover with open source, they are arguably easier to fix. Perhaps it's harder to find the exploits in closed source (i.e. Windows), but once the exploit is discovered, Microsoft must be relied on to fix the problem (for the most part). shrug
fixing my host name!
Several of my emails are getting returned by the intended receiever's ISP. The emails are returned with invalid hostname -- *my* hostname. Since I am currently only using PPP to connect to the 'net, I have a bogus hostname. I believe, though, that some mailers reject my name because of spam filters or whatever. At any rate, what should I change my hostname to (and how) so that it appears okay for strict mail systems? My ISP IP is dynamic, so I can't use that (those?). Help! Thanks.
qmail package for debian?
Is there a qmail package for debian? I've installed it on my slackware system in the past, and would like to install it on debian. I believe it is supposed to be one of the safest mail programs... but is Debian's default smail secure enough? In other words, is it worth the trouble to migrate from smail to qmail? If I don't move to qmail, though, I would like to have user's inboxes in their respective home directories (e.g. ~/Inbox), rather than the default /var/spool/mail/ thing. How do I change this with smail? Thanks!
/var/spool/mail -- ~/Inbox migration: how with smail?
I have a pretty vanilla Debian 2.0 setup as of now. I installed smail as my mta (or is it mda?). I would like to change the default inbox from /var/spool/mail/user to /home/user/Inbox. I've never used smail at all, and I find mail systems very complex and daunting. Any hints? Thanks!
xemacs error with ctrl-z!
My xemacs 20.4 has a nasty characteristic when I hit Ctrl-Z to suspend it. The cursor jumps to the bottom of the screen, and everything moves up one line. Typically, as with plain emacs, I get a prompt, but with the xemacs I have installed, this does not happen. I can type away, anything, to my heart's content, and nothing happens. The characters are echoed on the screen, but have no effect. I tried hitting Ctrl-Z again, but that does nothing. I tried the following commands: reset, clear, fg, bg, exit... none of them had any effect. I also tried the xemacs exit command Ctrl-X Ctrl-C and that didn't do anything. If I hit Ctrl-C, xemacs asks me if I want to autosave, then dumps core and exits! What gives? Has anyone else had this problem? Note: this is only on the console -- Ctrl-Z seems to be okay under X. Any help? Thanks!
can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?
I did some recording on my own of some songs, and then compressed them to mp3 files for storage reasons. I want to burn them on to a cd, and make an audio cd. I did the following: mpg123 -s mysong.mp3 mysong.raw Can I use this raw sound file with cdrecord to make an audio cd? Or do I have to convert the raw format to something else? Any suggestions on this? Thanks! Matt
Re: can I burn the output of mpg123 -s?
On Mon, Aug 17, 1998 at 05:32:06PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Yes, you can use it with cdrecord, but I think you have to use a switch to say it is in intel byte order. Does that mean that intel byte order is the same as host byte order? The man page for mpg123 says its output with the -s switch is host byte order, but the cdrecord manpage makes no mention of host byte order, only intel byte order, little endian and big endian, and I have no clue what else. Can anyone offer an equivalence table for these types? Thanks! Matt
lots of man errors...
When I do a man something the man command works okay, and displays the information I am looking for, but only after several pages of errors. Here is a copy of the last page of errors; errors coming before this are of a similar nature: man: warning: /etc/alternatives/b2m.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/b2m.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/b2m.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnudoit.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /etc/alternatives/emacsclient.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/emacsclient.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/emacsclient.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuclient.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: can't open /usr/man/man1/gnuserv.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/gnuattach.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /etc/alternatives/rcs-checkin.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/xemacs19.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/xemacs.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/xemacs.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request man: warning: /usr/man/man1/pstogif.xemacs20.1.gz is a dangling symlink man: can't open /usr/man/man1/pstogif.1: No such file or directory man: warning: /usr/man/man1/pstogif.1.gz: bad symlink or ROFF `.so' request done. These don't appear to be serious problems, but are aesthetically repulsive and distracting. What is the best way to rid my system of these errors? A quick note: I dpkg -r all of the xemacs20 package, and installed xemacs19 to work around the Ctrl-Z in text mode bug... I'm guessing dpkg left a lot of crud behind that it should have nuked...? Thanks!
Re: Good book
On Sun, Aug 09, 1998 at 08:16:59PM -0400, Howard wrote: Can anyone recommend a good book for new Linux users? All the books in my local bookstore are Red Hat specific--I would like a good Debian or general Linux book. Thank you. _Running_Linux_ by Matt Welsh, published by O'Reilly. It's probably the most-recommended beginner/intermediate Linux book. It's not Debian-specific though, I remember it as being mostly distrib. neutral. Good luck!
enlightenment package for bo (libc5)?
I'm still running the crusty ol' bo (1.3.1) Debian release. I'd like to install the Enlightenment window manager, but the only .deb package I can find is libc6-based (and bo is libc5). I tried installing from scratch, but that just didn't work. Any hints? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
FHS-compliant location of X backgrounds?
I have some nice images that I have setup as the default desktop background in X (the default image for the root window) on my system. I was wondering if anyone knows the correct, FHS-compliant place to store these? I was thinking something as in /usr/local/lib or something of sorts. Any comments? Thanks! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
lp connection refused
I have LPRng installed on my Debian 1.3.1 system. I had magicfilter installed, but it did not filter ps files (or I dind't set it up, which is more likely). Anyway, I removed the magicfilter package and installed APSfilter, because it has that neat-o setup script. After installing that, I cannot print. When I try to lp file I get the following error: connection to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed - Connection refused job 'cfA304localhost' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed after 1 attempts And I dunno why this is. I also did a ps ax | grep lp and there is no lpd running! I su'd to root, then manually ran /usr/sbin/lpd, and still, lpd does not run! Why is this? Thanks for any help! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
apsfilter printcap doesn't work
I removed the magicfilter package from my system, and installed apsfilter instead. I have used apsfilter in the past with success on my slackware system. However, after I installed it, I cannot print anything. For instance, if I type lp file.txt, I get the following message: no printcap for printer 'ascii' job 'cfA962localhost' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed after 1 attempts What does this mean, and how do I fix this? Here is what my /etc/printcap file looks like: # begin /etc/printcap ascii|lp1|epson-letter-ascii-mono|epson ascii mono:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-mono:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-mono/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-mono/acct:\ :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-epson-letter-ascii-mono:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # lp|lp2|epson-letter-auto-mono|epson auto mono:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-mono:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-mono/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-mono/acct:\ :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-epson-letter-auto-mono:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # lp3|epson-letter-ascii-color|epson ascii color:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-color:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-color/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-ascii-color/acct:\ :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-epson-letter-ascii-color:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # lp4|epson-letter-auto-color|epson auto color:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-color:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-color/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/epson-letter-auto-color/acct:\ :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-epson-letter-auto-color:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # raw|lp5|epson-letter-raw|epson auto raw:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson-raw:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/epson-raw/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/epson-raw/acct:\ :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-epson-letter-raw:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: # end of /etc/printcap Any hints? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
FHS-correct place for x root pics
I have some snazzy pictures that I have setup as default backgrounds for x (root window) on my system. I am curious, though, as to where I should store these for a FHS compliance. I'm guessing something like /usr/local/lib, but I'm not sure. Thanks for any suggestions! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
emacs/xemacs conflict?
Why do the emacs and xemacs packages conflict under debian? I wanted to try xemacs, but had to dpkg -r emacs before I could dpkg -i xemacs Since I no longer have GNU emacs on my system, is it okay to make /usr/local/bin/emacs a symbollic link to /usr/bin/xemacs? Also, I got a few warning messages about removing emacs, but I didn't think to Shift-PageUp them and actually investigate. Should there be any concern for the warnings I got when I did the dpkg -r emacs (although I suppose this is a hard one to answer without actually showing what these messages were, perhaps somebody has done this before, though?). Any comments? Thanks! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
magicfilter does ps?
On my old Slackware system, I manually installed APSfilter, and had my printer setup correctly. I could print text files without the staircase effect, and simply type lp somefile.ps and postscript files would print out automatically. On Debian, now, I have magicfilter (not APSfilter) installed, and my text file printing is okay, but if I try to lp a postscript, I get the literal file printed, i.e. it does not come out looking as it does under ghostview. What do I need to do to ammend this situation? Thank you! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ppp connection speed
Where would I look to find out what speed my modem connects when I use ppp? Thanks! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ppp connection speed
On Tue, Jul 21, 1998 at 08:38:44PM -0500, scott hussey wrote: At 08:39 PM 7/21/98 -0500, you wrote: Where would I look to find out what speed my modem connects when I use ppp? Thanks! Matt It should be contained in your connection log. Just type 'plog'. If it is not visible, you can more the log. I think it is under /etc/logs/ I checked plog, and it didn't report any connect speed. I also purused /var/adm/ppp.log -- no luck there, either. shrug Thanks, though! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
good digital clock for x?
Hello -- are there any deb packages that have a digital clock that I can swallow in an x module (specifically, FvwmButtons)? I'd prefer one that does military time, and perhaps the date, too :) As always, big thanks! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: good digital clock for x?
On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 06:30:28PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21 Jul, the lone gunman wrote: Hello -- are there any deb packages that have a digital clock that I can swallow in an x module (specifically, FvwmButtons)? I'd prefer one that does military time, and perhaps the date, too :) If nothing else shows up you might be interested in tkgoodstuff... The included clock client there supports 24h clock, also gives date... ... Hehe -- funny you mention tkgoodstuff; I used to use tkgoodstuff, and I want a clock like the one built into tkgoodstuff. I stopped using tkgoodstuff, though, because it really had more features than I needed... My FvwmButtons is just a really simple bar with a few icons for my most used programs. tkgoodstuff just seemed like overkill for no more than I was doing with it. shrug Thanks anyway! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: emacs (in color mode)
On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 12:32:54PM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote: Hi, I have just got the new version of emacs (which I have never used before) and would like to enable colour highlighting of my C \ tex screens. Please could someone in the know aquaint me with the proceedure for this or to where in the documentation I can find out about this. Thanks and regards When you run emacs under x, you can probably just get away with pressing the Esc key, then the x key, then typing font-lock-mode and hitting enter... I have the following two lines in my ~/.emacs file, so that font-lock-mode is always used, and emacs uses the most colors possible: (setq font-lock-maximum-decoration t) (global-font-lock-mode t) If only there was a way to colorize stuff in the console... Good luck! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
colorize emacs in console?
Is there any way to have the equivalent of Meta-X font-lock-mode in emacs from the console (versus X)? That is, maybe an addon package of sorts, where I can have emacs in color and not have to be in X. Especially for coding, it's nice to have the different things colorized as they are with font-lock-mode when running X in emacs, but it can't be done in text mode... I'd like to know if there is a way. It seems like it should be possible, isn't emacs built with ncurses? Thanks for any help or suggestions! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
awe32 midi/wavetable
Hello: I've got my Sound Blaster AWE32 pnp ISA soundcard working under Linux, with ISA PNP and the AWE32 patch (custom kernel). But, the wavetable isn't apparently working, because all midi sounds crummy -- it's obvious the wavetable is not in use. It's been a while since I've doinked around with this, so I forget -- is it at all possible to use the wavetable on my soundcard? If someone has this setup working, perhaps you could send me your /etc/isapnp.conf file, and say what else you've done to get the wavetable working? Any and all help is sincerely appreciated! Thanks! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
sound recording under linux
Hello: Are there any folks out there using Linux to do sound recording? If so, what approaches have you taken? I've got a cheap hack of a sound studio on my pc -- only under windows now, though, and I'd rather do this under linux. I do multi-track guitar recording in the following way: record a few licks with the microphone next to my amp. I have the output jack on my soundcard split in two -- one cable going to my speakers, and one going right back in the input jack of my soundcard. Then I can play the first track I recorded, and play another on my guitar while recording -- thus the two tracks are automatically mixed. Granted this is no professional studio, but it does the trick, and fairly well. The requirements, though, are that I need a full duplex driver for my Sound Blaster AWE 32 pnp ISA sound card. This driver is free for Windows. I can purchase a full duplex driver for linux from a company (I forget their name). Anyway, before I spend on the full duplex driver, does anyone know of some good software that I can use -- I need a midi drum programmer, some decent recording software, and some mixing software (that can merge two sound files). I've got most of this for free under Windows, so I'd like to keep it free for Linux. (BTW, the midi drum machine is called The Wizard -- it's pretty sharp, I'd like something similar for linux). Thanks! Matt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian Package Manager Worthless Junk???
On Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 02:47:31PM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote: anything. Anyway, could you compare RPMs and the Debian package manager? Also is there some kind of uninstall manager? Main Debian package manager (dpkg) is very similar to rpm, they both can install and uninstall packages, etc. What they were talking about is probably dselect - front-end to dpkg which lists all the packages and let you select which packages you want to install, uninstall, upgrade, etc. and then download and install/uninstall/upgrade everything automatically. The main problem of dselect is that user intrerface is a bit non-intuitive and with 1400 packages in archive - a little messy. It does a good job, though. My take is that at first, I was a bit turned off by dselect. Now, though, I just use dpkg, and find it simpler, easier, faster, etc... I think dselect is pretty neat-o, but as said above, a bit non-intuitive. I used to be very anti-package management, but dpkg has worked well for me... I've heard a lot of complaints against Red Hat's package manager, though. shrug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: How to clear screen before login prompt
On Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 11:25:37PM +0800, Jieyao wrote: I was trying to do a clear screen after I logout from the console before the login prompt appears. Any idea how this can be done? I tried some escape sequence but doesn't work. TIA. Many folks suggested adding the clear command to you ~/.bash_profile. Such a meathod is probably a bit more elegant, but my cheap hackish way of accomplishing what you want is aliasing clear exit to the word bye -- or whatever you want. Seems Linux always has several ways of accomplishing one task. Have fun! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: suggest a backup media
On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 12:50:34PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CDR has definite advantages. I had a SCSI 2x running fine on a 386 40mhz with 8mb of RAM and a 1gig IDE drive. If I generated the iso image on the box it was a little slow, so I nfs exported the directory with rw and no_root_squash options. This allowed me to build a backup volume from a faster machine on the network. It took little more time than it would to copy a 650mb image over ethernet. I was careful not to run any servers on the 386 so I left the network connected while roasting CD's. I even used the virtual consoles to telnet around my network while burning discs. I never had a problem keeping the CDR buffer filled. If I do this type of setup again, I will even try heavily pinging the box while recording and requesting all kinds of connects to get it busy writing to log files. Considering this... I have 96mb of memory, more than I need for anything, really. Is there anyway I could designate some of this memory into a virtual buffer for a CD-R, to further lessen the effect of CD write errors? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
suggest a backup media
I'm unsure of what backup media I should go with for my Linux system. I have a 4 gig harddrive. I'm thinking about CD-R or Travan-4 tape backup. I'm pulling hairs, though, trying to determine which is better (for me, anyway). I'd like to go with DAT, but the drives are too expensive. There are scsi CD-R drives for around $400 or so, and the HP T4 (Travan 4) internal scsi tape unit is about the same as for price (I think). I cannot afford to go any higher. CD-R seems a better route, with the low media costs, and that most cd-roms can read my backups. Retrieval would also be considerably faster. But, I read a long FAQ about CD-R, and the Linux Cd-writing howto, and CD burning makes me nervous because it's so sensitive. I'm worried cd backups may fail, and my computer is probably pretty useless while I'm burning. One 4 gig Travan-4 tape would pretty much do me, and the process is a bit simpler. Plus, I don't think there's too much of a difference in write speed for CD-R and scsi Travan-4. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Perhaps a link to a backup comparison site or something? (Since this topic has probably been beaten to death!). Thanks! Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
saving copies of sent mail with mutt
Is there a simple way to save copies of messages I've sent with the mutt email client, other than Cc:'ing myself? Thanks! Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rxvt has wrong TERM variable
On Sun, Jun 14, 1998 at 03:18:40PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang, Been having some trouble getting mutt to work in colour in rxvt under X (rxvt 2.20-3.1, according to 'dpkg -l|grep rxvt'), and I worked out that the problem was that the TERM variable is set as 'xterm'. When I manually change this to 'rxvt', I then get mutt working in colour again. Accordning to the rxvt FM rxvt sets the environment variables TERM, COLORTERM and COLORFGBG. COLORTERM seems okay, but TERM doesn: rei$ set|grep TERM COLORTERM=rxvt-xpm TERM=xterm Anyone have any cluses here? It's a bit of a pain to have to set it every time I read my mail, and with all the pretty colour of mutt, who really want to read it in black and white? Yes... you must recompile the package. I believe you can set what you want as default by editing the makefile, or a config.h type file. If you don't want to do it Debian-package style, just get the vanilla source, untar it in /usr/local/src, then install it into /usr/local/bin, and it won't affect dpkg. There are some other useful configuration options in the rxvt source, too, that you might want to look at. Good luck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [hacker@brightok.net: ] -- ppp help
On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 01:05:31PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: - Forwarded message from cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Ok I got debian running but I want to get ppp working I have a modem on com 2. I type pon and it wont do anything I tried reading the man pages but they just didnt help me. Can someone give me better details on how to get my ppp setup to where I can dial up my isp. I would also like to know how to search the wed via unix and setup telnet so someone can telnet into my computer. If you would like to make recomendations on what kind of shell I should run or other packages I should be running please let me know. Thanks Cougan If at all possible, try to get your hands on the April, 1997 (Issue 36) of _Linux_Journal_ magazine. It has an article contained within, A 10-Minute Guide for Using PPP to Connect Linux to the Internet. This isn't exactly the way Debian sets up PPP by default, but it will work, and should give you an understanding of Linux/ppp concepts. good luck, Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: telnet port 25
On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 08:41:17PM +0800, A.D.Y. Cheng wrote: Hello all, I try the command to test my email connection 'telnet localhost 25', but it gives me the error: Trying 127.0.0.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused However, I have '127.0.0.1localhost' entry in my /etc/hosts file. Another problem is that I have troubles download email from my ISP using fetchmail, it gives me the error Have you checked your /etc/hosts.deny file? For instance, my /etc/hosts.deny has the line containing ALL: ALL to disallow ALL people from connecting to ALL of my services. The few people I do let use stuff, I have explicity set in /etc/hosts.allow, for instance a line that says ftpd: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or likewise. The two mentioned files are for configuring your TCP wrappers, a program which monitors (and can do more extensive logging, I think) you inetd services. Also, do you have a telnet daemon running? godspeed, Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rdir directory graph util for Linux?
In my DOS days, I had this program called rdir. It displayed a Relative Directory size for first level directories off of the root in the form of a pie graph. For instance, if I have a 100mb drive, with three directories as follows: \dos\, 25 MB; \apps\, 50mb; and \util\, 25mb; and I used rdir, then I would get a pie graph where \dos\ and \util\ each occupy 1/4 of the pie, and \apps\ takes up a half-sized slice. Anyway, it was great when it came time to clean up my harddrive, because I could see which diretories were the space hogs. Is there something similar for linux? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't recognize com port
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 07:56:05AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which I got out of a book on Linux networking. Previously I was using /dev/ttyS1 for outgoing connections. Is there any reason to use the cua devices? --- The cua devices (call out) were originally created as separate devices for outgoing connections, the ttyS devices were used for incomming connections. The idea was that by using lock files an outgoing process would check for an incomming process before starting (and visa versa). There are other ways of doing this today and the use of the cua devices have fallen into dis-favor. (which is why debian does not use them?) I think slackware still builds cua devices. I am using /dev/ttyS0 to connect my modem. It seems Slackware is often slow to adapt to new things... (e.g. FHS!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing networks?!?
On Tue, Jun 02, 1998 at 04:40:55PM -0400, Paul McDermott wrote: hello everybody, i have a question, who doesn't on this list right? ok here it goes. I have a computer at work connected to the net via eathernet. I have all of my networking working great. My question is when i bring it home what do i have to change? hostname and ip address comes to mind since at work i have my own. i know it has to be something like 192.168.xxx.xxx is right or some variation. I was also wondering about my gateway and resolv.conf in /etc. The computer i am going to take home is going to be connected to the internet by modem (not all the time but sometimes) I don't want to know specifically what to change ie numbers bit what files to change. I have the howto's at my home page but i did not see to much on this subject. I am going to use diald. i don't have to worry about connecting to my computer through the modem - just so i can get out. Any help or directions would be much appreciated. If you need more information to help my conversion, please don't hesitate to ask and i shall provide. I was on an ethernet at my school, everthing working fine, etc, just as you described. My school used dhcp to assign IP addresses... but they were always the same, and I let my computer run 24/7, so my IP was always the same. I used bootp (bootpc) for linux to setup everything. Anyway, when I brought my computer home, to use PPP via modem on occation, I just commented out anything dealing with the ethernet and/or bootpc in my startup scripts. Then I setup the pon and /etc/ppp* files, and it's all rock'n'roll now. I never changed my hostname, so the From: field of my emails and newsgroup postings always look like they came from my computer when it was still on the ethernet. I just set Reply-To: to the correct value, and I'm set. Cheap, lazy... but effective! hopefully somebody will post a more elegant solution grin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SWAP or swap
On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 04:30:22PM -0500, Matthew D. Myers wrote: I have been running my linux with approx. 100 MB swap partition, all how to's and books say no swap partition bigger than 16 MB. What's the story, does linux REALLY not use any more that 16MB swap? I've also heard it's a question of how much ram do you have... I believe I heard somewhere, that the rule of thumb for swap space is 2 times the amount of ram you have. But you also need to consider how much swap space you'll need in regards to how much load you put on your system. If you have a lot of physical ram, and don't put much of a load on your system, then a big swap shouldn't be necessary. For instance, I have 96mb of ram, and a 48mb swap, but I don't put enough load on my system that Linux ever has to swap. In fact, most of my applications are cached, so disk access is virtually nill. shrug Have a good one! Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm window shadows don't move...
Hello: I just installed Debian/GNU 1.3.1, I've got pretty much everything going as I want it. On problem, though, is as follows: I'm using fvwm2 as a window manager under XFree86. When I click and hold the left mouse button on a window handle or title bar, and move the mouse the window stays in place, and only the crosshair moves, which makes it hard to determine where the window will actually land. I copied my old fvwm2rc and XF86Config files from my old slackware system, and on that setup, when I moved a window, the border of the window would move around with the crosshair, so I could get a better feel for where the window would land. Basically, I'd like to have that border back, because it's kinda hard to judge where a window will land with just the crosshair. Even better, I'd like to have the entire window move with the crosshair, but either way is okay. Anybody know how I can get this feature to work? Thanks in advance, Eagerly awaiting Debian 2.0, -- garman AT uiuc DOT edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 80:3b
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3.1 that I purchased from Linux System Labs. I have had several problems, and cannot seem to find the answers. I installed the system by booting from a floppy and installing the base system from cdrom. (My cdrom is bootable; the cd is bootable, but for some reason, booting from cd just hangs... but that's not too important). During the first part of the installation --- that is, the essential system setup, just before rebooting and heading into dselect --- I opted to make my hard drive bootable. But, I get the following message: Currently it is impossible to boot from the second harddisk. Please boot the system using the rescue boot method and configure LILO manually. Indeed I did as the message told me, booted with the rescue disk, went through dselect, setting up my system, etc. I configured LILO by hand. Since I ran Slacware 3.4 successfully for about a year, I simply dropped in lilo.conf from my old setup, and ran lilo. No errors. However, when I booted, the system was about half-way through booting, and just after where it prints Partition check I got the following error: VFS: Cannot open root device 80:3b Kernel panici: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 80:3b I understand the numbers mean major:minor device specs --- since I'm going off of /dev/sda3, shouldn't the numbers be 8:3? I toured www.DejaNews.com for help, and tried the following things, all to no avail: 1. Installed a new kernel --- several times! I used the *exact* same kernel configuration file as I did for Slackware. I checked, re-checked, and triple checked the SCSI options to make sure they were okay. 2. Ran rdev kernel file /dev/sda3 on my kernels: both the one Debian installed, and the one I custom installed. 3. Also, some folks from dejanews said it could be a problem booting past the 2mb mark. Well, when I setup the partitions long ago, I took this into account, and /dev/sda1 is about a gig minus 50 megs to make room for /dev/sda2, my 50 meg Linux swap partition, and /dev/sda3 is where linux actually runs off of, and it's just under a gig. Plus Slackware ran on this exact same setup for over a year, with no problems. 4. Even so, I could still use the rescue disk and do a rescue root=/dev/sda3 In my extreme frustration, I started all over, from the beginning, and now everything is apparently fine. However, after the first step, I still got the ...impossible to boot from the second harddisk... message, again forcing me to do lilo.conf by hand. AND, when I booted to run dselect, from the rescue disk, Linux got half-way through the boot and said Unable to open an initial console and just froze! I hit CTRL-ALT-DELETE and repeated booting from the rescue disk, and everything was fine. I installed, configured lilo, and so far I have no real problems. My concern, though, is what caused these errors, and are they likely to show up again? Is my system stable? I never had any errors with Slackware... grin Here is a quick rundown of important system info: I nuked a Slackware 3.4 install that was on my 1gb /dev/sda3 partition for Debian. I have Win95 on a 1gb /dev/sda1 partition, a 50mb /dev/sda2 partition, and an ext2 2gb /dev/sda4 partition I use just for storage (e.g. ftp's home). I have an Adaptec 2940uw card and a 4 gig Seagate scsi drive attached. This is a 98mb ram P-II system, with an IDE cd rom on /dev/hdc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to get color ls display?
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3.1 that I purchased from Linux System Labs. I have had several problems, and cannot seem to find the answers. Getting color with ls! I copied my /etc/DIR_COLORS from my old slackware system to my new Debian system. In my /etc/profile, I have dircolors -b run, and then I alias ls=ls --color=auto. Now, if I un-alias ls (that is, only dircolors is run), then NOTHING is in color. But with the alias, regardless of what I do with dircolors, I get my lists in color, but not the custom colors I've defined in /etc/DIR_COLORS. What gives? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail just hangs
Hello: I recently installed Debian 1.3.1 that I purchased from Linux System Labs. I have had several problems, and cannot seem to find the answers. I have ppp successfully running, but cannot get fetchmail (or popclient) to work. Here's the commands I've tried: fetchmail -k -u my username my mailserver fetchmail -p POP3 -k -u my username my mailserver fetchmail -p IMAP -k -u my username my mailserver I know the my mail server supports both POP3 and IMAP... regardless, these don't seem to be the problem. fetchmail (or popclient) will connect to the server, prompt me for my password, then start reading messages. It will say reading message 1 (size) print one or two periods, then sit there indefinately. If I watch the modem lights, there is a lot of rd/sd action going on prior to the freeze up, but once it starts reading messages, all light activity stops. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reply address...
Hello: I just posted three messages to the mailing list: A question about being unable to mount my root-partition, a question about colorizing ls, and a fetchmail question. I did not provide a (correct) return email address. It is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry. Thanks for your help! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
