Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 21:12:59 Neal Hogan wrote: > > But, as you say, this is way OT. > > Certainly, more OT than any ubuntu/debian question ;-) Quite :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003292128.53461.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 29 March 2010 18:44:29 Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: >> > As for KKL, I needed a translation. >> >> This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: >> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL >> >> It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now >> because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good >> sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, >> Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me >> curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition >> from home tonight. > > I asked my teenager for the definition at the time. She says that KKL= O.K. > KooL, which again being translated means: I agree and I approve, or O.K, I > think that that is a good idea. She says they all in fact just say K for OK > anyway!! I can certainly concur that the beginnings and ends of words seem > to be entirely voluntary - and it is not entirely because I am going deaf! > > But, as you say, this is way OT. Certainly, more OT than any ubuntu/debian question ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ab7b49bc1003291312y30d2va091600d7ddbe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] teenage slang. was: Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 18:44:29 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: > > As for KKL, I needed a translation. > > This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL > > It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now > because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good > sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, > Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me > curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition > from home tonight. I asked my teenager for the definition at the time. She says that KKL= O.K. KooL, which again being translated means: I agree and I approve, or O.K, I think that that is a good idea. She says they all in fact just say K for OK anyway!! I can certainly concur that the beginnings and ends of words seem to be entirely voluntary - and it is not entirely because I am going deaf! But, as you say, this is way OT. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003292109.47964.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:51:08 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: > As for KKL, I needed a translation. This is *really* off-topic, but perhaps this is it: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=KKL It showed up in an internet search, but I can't access the site right now because my employer has that site blocked. (In general, that's not a good sign. But it's not necessarily bad. They block things like Xanga, Myspace, facebook, and other social networking sites too.) You've got me curious, though. I have a teenager myself; so I'll check the definition from home tonight. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1723124784.111841269884669531.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Monday 29 March 2010 17:29:26 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > While I agree that this particular issue is very general > to Linux itself, That is really the point that I was making. > people still need to learn to seek help from the > appropriate communities. I actually agree in general. Asking for help with a CentOS, RH specific problem here is a waste of everyone's time, including the OP's. But in this specific case, I know that Dotan does in fact belong to, at least, the Kubuntu list. And this question was generally applicable, anyhow to deb-based distros; of general interest, anyhow to me ;-)) ; and more likely to be answered helpfully here. And I am in a semantically nit-picking mood. :-( I have just spent a weekend immersed in modern teenage argot. Since when was "wicked" a term of approbation?? And "cool" high praise?? As for KKL, I needed a translation. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003291751.08306.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
> I have certainly benefitted from the question and its answers. And Debian is > my distro of choice. > > I would take semantic exception to the questions about "we" supporting him; > since Jordan is most certainly not supporting Dotan, and the first person is > therefore inaccurate and inappropriate. > > Lisi My reference to "we" was a reference to the Debian community, which I consider myself a part of. I am a regular supporter on the #debian channel on irc.freenode.net. I can not count the number of times that I have began to help a user, only to find out their problem is specific to . While I agree that this particular issue is very general to Linux itself, people still need to learn to seek help from the appropriate communities. Just as a small indication of how often this occurs in #debian, here is a factinfo comparison to "nvidia": 12:27 ubuntu -- last modified at Wed Feb 13 17:17:41 2008 by weasel!wea...@weasel.chair.oftc.net; it has been requested 1261 times, last by rudi_s, 2h 52m 42s ago 12:28 nvidia -- last modified at Sun Sep 20 20:45:26 2009 by themill!~stu...@themill.user.oftc.net; it has been requested 3207 times, last by remmy, 1d 50m 29s ago. The "ubuntu" factoid is generally presented to direct a user to get help at the appropriate channel (#ubuntu). --- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e5edd51003290929ic4cc39cy80a8ead098c53...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:08:52 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:47:30 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; ... > Thanks for your understanding. BTW, I'm "her" :-) Oops! Sorry. With non-English names, I can't always tell. (Actually, there are some English names where I can't always tell either.) -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/971315489.90951269880067174.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:47:30 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) >> Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? > > That's not even an exhaustive list. According to DistroWatch.com, there > are, at the time of this writing, 253 distributions based on Debian -- > far more than any other distribution! Some of these distributions are > now defunct of course, but still that's a *huge* number! > > http://distrowatch.com/search.php? category=All&origin=All&basedon=Debian&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=All > > We can't possibly support them all here. I agree with Jordan. I'm not > trying to be unkind, but each distribution is responsible for its own > support. If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; Thanks for your understanding. BTW, I'm "her" :-) I'm always glad to help users requesting help, even more if they are "long-term" Linux users such I think is the OP as I read him before in another linux lists and also here, in this debian user list. > but I try to > direct users of other distributions to their own organization's help > forums. There are too many subtle differences between all the > distributions. Advice that I may give based on my experience with > Debian may not work, or even cause problems, on other distributions; and > since I don't use any other distribution, I would have no way of knowing > that. > > That's my two cents worth. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.29.16.08...@gmail.com
[OT] Help for non-Debian distributions (was How to read log files)
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:10:34 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:54:40 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: >>> >>> We are still supporting this guy, even though it appears he is not >>> running Debian? >> >> I support the person and his question, he seems to be an active (and >> productive) Debian user. >> >> Anyway, Debian and Ubuntu share almost the same source. > > You don't think that the ubuntu-users mailing list would be more > appropriate? debian.org lists the following as "based on Debian": > > Collax > Damn Small Linux > Debian JP > Embedded Debian, http://www.emdebian.org/ > Euronode, http://euronode.org/ > Floppix, http://floppix.ccai.com/ > Gibraltar > GNUstep LIVE CD, http://io.debian.net/~tar/gnustep/ > grml > Kanotix, http://www.kanotix.com/ > KNOPPIX, http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/ > Linspire, http://www.linspire.com/ > Linex > MEPIS, http://www.mepis.org/ > M.N.I.S. OCERA, http://www.mnis.fr/en/products/ > Morphix > PureOS > RAYS LX > Stonegate > Ubuntu > Univention Corporate Server > Xandros > > Do we support all of them here on debian-users list? That's not even an exhaustive list. According to DistroWatch.com, there are, at the time of this writing, 253 distributions based on Debian -- far more than any other distribution! Some of these distributions are now defunct of course, but still that's a *huge* number! http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=All&origin=All&basedon=Debian&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=All We can't possibly support them all here. I agree with Jordan. I'm not trying to be unkind, but each distribution is responsible for its own support. If Camaleón wants to help him, we can't stop him; but I try to direct users of other distributions to their own organization's help forums. There are too many subtle differences between all the distributions. Advice that I may give based on my experience with Debian may not work, or even cause problems, on other distributions; and since I don't use any other distribution, I would have no way of knowing that. That's my two cents worth. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1276593306.80891269877650598.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
