Re: Best WWW browser..
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:27:38AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ont Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:27:37 +1100, > Rob Weir wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:06:07AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:13:15 +1100, > > > Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > > > > [1 ] > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:19:18PM +, p wrote: > > > > > ...and having the ability to turn off the pop-ups advertising > > > > > is a great feature in 7.01. > > > > > > > > Which has been in Mozilla for over a year, and was > > > > consiously hidden away by Netscape to make it more > > > > difficult to disable popups. > > > > > > Now where is this option to turn off pop-ups? Is it one of > > > the itmes listed under Javascript > > > (Preferences/Advanced/Script & Plugins)? > > > > Yes. Most of the options in the list are just annoying, so I > > disable nearly all of them. > > Why don't you just disable javascript (the root of all pop-up > evil)? Some sites seem to demand it. At first I just avoided them, but now what I've disabled all the annoying/threatening things, I just stopped caring. I should start complaining to site masters again :) > BTW in Konqueror there are options to turn on|off java(script) on a > domain by domain basis. Hmmm, interesting. I think Moz/Phoenix/etc can already do this by hacking user.js, but there really should be a UI for it, too. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best WWW browser..
Ont Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:27:37 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > [1 ] > On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:06:07AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:13:15 +1100, > > Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > > [1 ] > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:19:18PM +, p wrote: > > > > ...and having the ability to turn off the pop-ups advertising > > > > is a great feature in 7.01. > > > > > > Which has been in Mozilla for over a year, and was > > > consiously hidden away by Netscape to make it more > > > difficult to disable popups. > > > > Now where is this option to turn off pop-ups? Is it one of > > the itmes listed under Javascript > > (Preferences/Advanced/Script & Plugins)? > > Yes. Most of the options in the list are just annoying, so I > disable nearly all of them. Why don't you just disable javascript (the root of all pop-up evil)? BTW in Konqueror there are options to turn on|off java(script) on a domain by domain basis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:06:07AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:13:15 +1100, > Rob Weir wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:19:18PM +, p wrote: > > > ...and having the ability to turn off the pop-ups advertising > > > is a great feature in 7.01. > > > > Which has been in Mozilla for over a year, and was consiously > > hidden away by Netscape to make it more difficult to disable > > popups. > > Now where is this option to turn off pop-ups? Is it one of the > itmes listed under Javascript (Preferences/Advanced/Script & > Plugins)? Yes. Most of the options in the list are just annoying, so I disable nearly all of them. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 18:13:15 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > [1 ] > On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:19:18PM +, p wrote: > > ...and having the ability to turn off the pop-ups advertising > > is a great feature in 7.01. > > Which has been in Mozilla for over a year, and was consiously > hidden away by Netscape to make it more difficult to disable > popups. Now where is this option to turn off pop-ups? Is it one of the itmes listed under Javascript (Preferences/Advanced/Script & Plugins)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 12:25:19PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > >web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > >moaning about Frames support mostly. > > > >Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > >viewed? > > > >I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of > >the Opera 7 that recently appeared? > > Mozilla Seems to be as fully W3C compliant as any I've tried. > Phoenix Not fully tested, but seems to be as compliant as Mozilla Phoenix of course uses Gecko aka the Mozilla HTML Rendering Engine, so it'd be just as compliant as Moz. Also, since the builds of phoenix that people are using these days come from Mozilla's CVS TRUNK, they'd be even further along than the last stable release of Moz. > Opera Usually considered to be among the best. I've noticed poor > handling of CSS1 and CSS2 Another point which may or may not bother people is that Opera is non-Free and the free-as-in-beer version has built in banner ads. > Dillo Quick, but lacks a lot of stuff. Not W3C compliant. > Netscape v=>6.0 Highly compliant. Some find it flakey. Not fully > exercised here. If you're going to use netscape >= 6.0, just use mozilla. It's Free and free, and doesn't contain all the shopping crap that netscape does. It also has the popup blocking feature accessible from the UI. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ertius.org/ msg32062/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:19:18PM +, p wrote: > ...and having the ability to turn > off the pop-ups advertising is a > great feature in 7.01. Which has been in Mozilla for over a year, and was consiously hidden away by Netscape to make it more difficult to disable popups. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://ertius.org/ msg32060/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:00:32AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote: > > > Hi Yall & Kevin, > > I am on Netscape 7.0.1 & like it very much. > > There is no .deb file, but the installer rocks. > > >ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/7.01/unix/linux22/sea/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz > > Happy surfing, > > Greek Geek :-) > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > >web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > >moaning about Frames support mostly. > > > >Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > >viewed? > > > >I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of > >the Opera 7 that recently appeared? > > > >http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ > > > >Thanks for your help, > >Kevin > > > >-- > > > // ...and having the ability to turn off the pop-ups advertising is a great feature in 7.01. b. // -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
on Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:10:14AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > moaning about Frames support mostly. Shouldn't happen. Check that you're up to date with Galeon, if so, file a bug. > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > viewed? Galeon's among the best there is. http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixBrowsers (Or see sig. Funny, as I use 'signify' to randomly select sigs from a rather large set of possibilities). Peace -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? A guide to GNU/Linux browsers: http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NixBrowsers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages >viewed? > >I'd prefer a .deb package from stable Phoenix has daily builds which are easy to use. You unpack the tar to any directory (your home directory is just fine) and it's ready to run. To uninstall simply remove the phoenix directory. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/ There is a apt source for Phoenix 0.5-4 (deb http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/i386 ./), but it depends on unstable's libc6. Geordie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
Hi Yall & Kevin, I am on Netscape 7.0.1 & like it very much. There is no .deb file, but the installer rocks. ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape7/english/7.01/unix/linux22/sea/netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz Happy surfing, Greek Geek :-) "I don't know that you can measure public opinion just by the number of people that turn up at demonstrations,"--Australian prime minister John Howard, proves he is qualified for running a democracy; while commenting on an Anti-War against Iraq demonstration. The gathering was the largest in Australian history. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be moaning about Frames support mostly. Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages viewed? I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of the Opera 7 that recently appeared? http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ Thanks for your help, Kevin -- The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)1980 612100. Please also destroy or delete the message from your computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
Thus spake Tom: > Phoenix indeed is a possibility. But did you (meaning the OP) > mention the need of a light weight browser? If not, what's > wrong with good old Mozilla itself? Phoenix trims out a lot of extra cruft from Mozilla, and in my experience is a lot snappier and faster to load. Also, someone mentioned downloading the Phoenix binaries from their project page... but if you like, you can add this to your sources.list and just apt-get install phoenix deb http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/i386 ./ I've been using these packages for some time, and they've been working great. -- Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All mankind loves a lover. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for >web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be >moaning about Frames support mostly. > >Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages >viewed? > >I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of >the Opera 7 that recently appeared? Mozilla Seems to be as fully W3C compliant as any I've tried. Phoenix Not fully tested, but seems to be as compliant as Mozilla Opera Usually considered to be among the best. I've noticed poor handling of CSS1 and CSS2 Dillo Quick, but lacks a lot of stuff. Not W3C compliant. Netscapev=>6.0 Highly compliant. Some find it flakey. Not fully exercised here. BrowseX Quick and small. Not fully compliant. Overall, I recommend Mozilla. Unfortunately there are a number of web sites that seem to depend on non-compliant Internet Explorer proprietary tags. There's nothing to be done other than bitch to the webmaster. Good luck with all that. -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone tells you--- "I have a sense of humor, but that's not funny." ---they don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 03:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > moaning about Frames support mostly. I have had this problem and have tested it out myself. Galeon did have a problem (I use unstable) with frames but about 2 or 3 months ago a new version was released and the problem went away. > > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > viewed? > > I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of > the Opera 7 that recently appeared? > > http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ > > Thanks for your help, > Kevin > > -- > > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or >entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential >information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or >take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please >notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)1980 612100. Please also destroy or >delete the message from your computer. -- Bill Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
Matthew Weier O'Phinney: > Wierd -- shouldn't happen, as it's based on Mozilla, which has > always had decent frames support. Exactly my thought. >>> Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most >>> pages viewed? Phoenix indeed is a possibility. But did you (meaning the OP) mention the need of a light weight browser? If not, what's wrong with good old Mozilla itself? Greets, Tom -- "Was soll uns denn das ew'ge Schaffen! Geschaffenes zu nichts hinwegzuraffen!" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
-- Dave Selby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 18 February 2003, 10:21 AM +): > On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > > moaning about Frames support mostly. Wierd -- shouldn't happen, as it's based on Mozilla, which has always had decent frames support. > > > > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > > viewed? > > I use phoenix through KDE though it should work in gnome, Ive added a couple > of plugins for java etc, works AOK, have yet to meet a page it wont display > and is quick, not as quick as dillo but quick !! Actually, it works anywhere. If you have GTK+ libraries installed, it will theme via the current GTK+ theme (1.x only, though; and not all elements theme). > Not avalible as a deb package as far as I am aware, but compile from source > and it works AOK No need to compile from source -- they provide binaries, which you can install either into your system tree (/usr) or run from anywhere. The binaries are built off the current stable development version of Mozilla, so they don't even require Moz to be installed. However, if you have Moz installed already, it makes using plugins a little easier (I symlink to the Moz plugins directory). > http://www.mozilla.org/releases/stable.html Ummm, that's for mozilla. Try this link: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/phoenix/releases.html -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 10:10:14AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > moaning about Frames support mostly. > > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > viewed? These are all opinions of course... Galeon is as good as anything else, and better than most. Nothing stopping you from using konqueror under Gnome... Both are good browsers. > I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of > the Opera 7 that recently appeared? > > http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ Opera 7 is at *Preview 1* it is not anywhere close to being ready for primetime. Opera 6.11 is excellent, and overall I prefer it to Galeon. But Galeon will view stuff that Opera 6.11 won't (mostly fancy javascript related things.) -troy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:10 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for > web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be > moaning about Frames support mostly. > > Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages > viewed? > > I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of > the Opera 7 that recently appeared? > > http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ > > Thanks for your help, > Kevin I use phoenix through KDE though it should work in gnome, Ive added a couple of plugins for java etc, works AOK, have yet to meet a page it wont display and is quick, not as quick as dillo but quick !! Not avalible as a deb package as far as I am aware, but compile from source and it works AOK http://www.mozilla.org/releases/stable.html Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best WWW browser..
Hi, I'm using Debian 3.0r1 stable (woody) and am currently using Galon for web-surfing. However, it seems to break on some sites - they seem to be moaning about Frames support mostly. Anyway, which browser should I use under gnome to get the most pages viewed? I'd prefer a .deb package from stable but if not, what do people think of the Opera 7 that recently appeared? http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/353-20030214-P1/ Thanks for your help, Kevin -- The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately by telephone on +44 (0)1980 612100. Please also destroy or delete the message from your computer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
