Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Thu, 2019-08-08 at 01:02 +0100, nektarios wrote: > On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:05:13 +0200Nimrod wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 14:45 -0400, bw wrote: > > > In-Reply-To:< > > > c5618c98-2bad-490f-8ae5-61191e1d9...@email.android.com> > > > > > 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network > > > > > youre looking for is detected from the hardware. > > > > This is interesting, I didn't know this command. It would > > > > ratherstrange if the hotspot is shown by the above command but > > > > not byNetwork Manager. > > > > > > No, it would not be strange at all. Network-manager is in it's > > > owntime-zone, and is often rather strange and hard to > > > figureout. Sometimes you must be patient, it does not scan > > > immediately.For CLI tools I prefer 'iw' to the older iwlist > > > command, but eithermay help you. If the device is scanning and > > > finding other ap, thenit probably is a network-manager quirk. It > > > oftenmisses/adds/deletes aps from the list IME. > > > > I tried iw while Network Manager was not finding my hotspot, and > > iwfound it instead.But suddenly NM found it too! Last time it > > worked was several daysago. I really can't understand. I'm happy > > it's working now, but I'mafraid it will stop working sooner or > > later. I restarted severaltimes both laptop and hotspot, using both > > Gnome Shell and Mate, andthe hotspot always appeared almost > > immediately, as it was used to dobefore. I then turned on another > > Nokia 3 hotspot (I have threeidentical smartphone, mine and those > > of my sons). The second one isstill invisible, while other devices, > > including my own smartphone, canconnect to it with no > > problems.Issuing iw scan now has no effect.For everyone who > > answered here is the output of dmesg | grep wl:[ 10.811861] > > wlan0: Broadcom BCM4315 802.11 Hybrid WirelessController > > 6.30.223.271 (r587334)[ 11.084358] wl :02:00.0 wls1:renamed > > from wlan0[ 16.562792] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: linkis > > not ready[ 17.614802] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link isnot > > ready[ 161.102549] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: > > linkbecomes ready[ 725.746601] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: > > link isnot ready[ 725.770340] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : > > [ 729.858749] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes > > ready[ 1264.074169] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not > > ready[ 1537.300735] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link > > becomes ready[ 1540.111204] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is > > not ready[ 1655.286877] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link > > becomes ready[ 1821.082896] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is > > not ready[ 1845.425123] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link > > becomes ready[ 1849.392169] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is > > not ready[ 1909.187372] IPv6:ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not > > ready[ 1909.219378] ERROR@wl_cfg80211_scan : [ 1909.248580] ERROR > > @wl_cfg80211_scan : After the link became ready, I disabled wifi > > intentionally, andreenabled after some seconds. Also, I tried many > > time "iw scan".I can provide other data if you need it, just tell > > me.Many thanks. > > > Good Luck,bw > > `iwlist` command was very useful to me once debugging a raspberi > piwith failing wireless adapter (networks appearing and > disappearing). Sorry for the long delay, I had no connection till now. iwlist doesn't show the Nokia 3 hotspot, while it shows any other kind of hotspot, AP, SSID etc... round here. > Tbh the errors there don't look good but not serious either. If the > related output from `iwlist scan` shows only 2.4 Ghz networks > (itmaybe detecting only networks in the 2.4 GHz - if your nic is > old). > `lshw` output might be of use if you know what hardware you have in > thelaptop as a driver/device mismatch might cause the device not work > verywell (I ve seen it once only with usb wireless adapter). Here is the output of lshw, limited to the wireless interface: *-network description: Wireless interfaceproduct: BCM4312 802.11b/g LP- PHYvendor: Broadcom Limitedphysical id: 0bus info: pci@:02:00.0logical name: wls1version: 01serial: 00:21:00:81:d9:85width: 64 bitsclock: 33MHzcapabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wirelessconfiguration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.271 (r587334) latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11resources: irq:17 memory:d470-d4703fff Best regards. > Regards
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 08:31 -0700, Shahryar Afifi wrote: > Eliminate the possibilities:try to connect other phone's hot spot to > your laptop. I tried this with an ASUS tablet, an Alcatel 1 smartphone, and an unknown smartphone branded by Vodafone. The last two are Oreo, the first one is a rather old Android version, at most 6. But they are all immediately seen by my Buster laptop, and the WI-FI connection works perfectly. > try using third party app on your phone to set up hot spot. I tried many, but most of them are just useless shortcut. Anyway no one works. Can you suggest one? > try to connect nokia 3 to other buster ( or even windows to test) I have not another Buster, but I have a Stretch laptop, which has no problem with my three Nokia 3 smartphone. > set up hot spot from your laptop and see if you can see it in nokia 3 I did it, and at least one of the Nokia 3 sees the SSID of the hotspot, but can't connect. The hotspot is created with WEP security, but the Nokia 3 says the connection has no security at all. This is wrong, but at least explains why the Nokia 3 can't connect to the Buster hotspot. I even tried to create another connection on the Nokia 3, setting WEP as security and the right password, but I didn't succede. Maybe I made some mistake. Sorry for the long delay... I had no connection for many days! Best regards. > > On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 10:42 +0200, Nimrod wrote: > > Hi, > > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I > > updatedfrom Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the > > subject isvery relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia > > 3smartphone (Android up to date): > > 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia > > 3hotspot. > > 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet > > hasa rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it > > cannotbe updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks > > around(currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, > > Italy, butalmost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi > > networks) > > 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia > > 3smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and > > Ichecked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet > > inpoint 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 > > whenthey try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 > > as amodem via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When > > the wi-fi hotspot was working the speed was much higher. > > Some data: > > - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; > > Busteris up to date- all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > > -- Nimrod
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:05:13 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 14:45 -0400, bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: > > > > > > 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you > > > > re looking for is detected from the hardware. > > > This is interesting, I didn't know this command. It would rather > > > strange if the hotspot is shown by the above command but not by > > > Network Manager. > > > > No, it would not be strange at all. Network-manager is in it's own > > time-zone, and is often rather strange and hard to figure > > out. Sometimes you must be patient, it does not scan immediately. > > For CLI tools I prefer 'iw' to the older iwlist command, but either > > may help you. If the device is scanning and finding other ap, then > > it probably is a network-manager quirk. It often > > misses/adds/deletes aps from the list IME. > > I tried iw while Network Manager was not finding my hotspot, and iw > found it instead. > But suddenly NM found it too! Last time it worked was several days > ago. I really can't understand. I'm happy it's working now, but I'm > afraid it will stop working sooner or later. I restarted several > times both laptop and hotspot, using both Gnome Shell and Mate, and > the hotspot always appeared almost immediately, as it was used to do > before. I then turned on another Nokia 3 hotspot (I have three > identical smartphone, mine and those of my sons). The second one is > still invisible, while other devices, including my own smartphone, can > connect to it with no problems. > Issuing iw scan now has no effect. > For everyone who answered here is the output of dmesg | grep wl: > [ 10.811861] wlan0: Broadcom BCM4315 802.11 Hybrid Wireless > Controller 6.30.223.271 (r587334)[ 11.084358] wl :02:00.0 wls1: > renamed from wlan0[ 16.562792] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link > is not ready[ 17.614802] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is > not ready[ 161.102549] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link > becomes ready[ 725.746601] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is > not ready[ 725.770340] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : [ 729.858749] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1264.074169] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1537.300735] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1540.111204] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1655.286877] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1821.082896] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1845.425123] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1849.392169] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1909.187372] IPv6: > ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1909.219378] ERROR > @wl_cfg80211_scan : [ 1909.248580] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : > After the link became ready, I disabled wifi intentionally, and > reenabled after some seconds. Also, I tried many time "iw scan". > I can provide other data if you need it, just tell me. > Many thanks. > > Good Luck,bw > > `iwlist` command was very useful to me once debugging a raspberi pi with failing wireless adapter (networks appearing and disappearing). Tbh the errors there don't look good but not serious either. If the related output from `iwlist scan` shows only 2.4 Ghz networks (it maybe detecting only networks in the 2.4 GHz - if your nic is old). `lshw` output might be of use if you know what hardware you have in the laptop as a driver/device mismatch might cause the device not work very well (I ve seen it once only with usb wireless adapter). Regards -- Nektarios Katakis
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 14:45 -0400, bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: > > > 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you > > > re looking for is detected from the hardware. > > This is interesting, I didn't know this command. It would rather > > strange if the hotspot is shown by the above command but not by > > Network Manager. > > No, it would not be strange at all. Network-manager is in it's own > time-zone, and is often rather strange and hard to figure > out. Sometimes you must be patient, it does not scan immediately. > For CLI tools I prefer 'iw' to the older iwlist command, but either > may help you. If the device is scanning and finding other ap, then > it probably is a network-manager quirk. It often misses/adds/deletes > aps from the list IME. I tried iw while Network Manager was not finding my hotspot, and iw found it instead. But suddenly NM found it too! Last time it worked was several days ago. I really can't understand. I'm happy it's working now, but I'm afraid it will stop working sooner or later. I restarted several times both laptop and hotspot, using both Gnome Shell and Mate, and the hotspot always appeared almost immediately, as it was used to do before. I then turned on another Nokia 3 hotspot (I have three identical smartphone, mine and those of my sons). The second one is still invisible, while other devices, including my own smartphone, can connect to it with no problems. Issuing iw scan now has no effect. For everyone who answered here is the output of dmesg | grep wl: [ 10.811861] wlan0: Broadcom BCM4315 802.11 Hybrid Wireless Controller 6.30.223.271 (r587334)[ 11.084358] wl :02:00.0 wls1: renamed from wlan0[ 16.562792] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 17.614802] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 161.102549] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 725.746601] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 725.770340] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : [ 729.858749] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1264.074169] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1537.300735] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1540.111204] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1655.286877] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1821.082896] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1845.425123] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wls1: link becomes ready[ 1849.392169] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1909.187372] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wls1: link is not ready[ 1909.219378] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : [ 1909.248580] ERROR @wl_cfg80211_scan : After the link became ready, I disabled wifi intentionally, and reenabled after some seconds. Also, I tried many time "iw scan". I can provide other data if you need it, just tell me. Many thanks. > Good Luck,bw
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Aug 7, 2019 11:38, Nektarios Katakis wrote:On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:42:09 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > Hi, > > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartphone (Android up to date): > > 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia 3 > hotspot. > > 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet has > a rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it cannot be > updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks around > (currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, Italy, but > almost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi networks) > > 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia 3 > smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and I > checked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet in > point 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem > via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When the wi-fi > hotspot was working the speed was much higher. > > Some data: > > - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; Buster > is up to date > - all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > > A good place to check your wireless issues is the excellent wifi howto page from debian docs https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse. I'll certainly take a look at it. You re not mentioning what software you re using to connect to wifi. Just Gnome Shell interface, which I guess is just a GUI for Network Manager.From the right upper corner of the screen I can look at all wifi networks available. There are many, my wife's tablet hotspot immediately appears if turned on, but none of our three Nokia 3 even appears there when hotspot is turned on, not even after many many minutes.But my wife's tablet immediately connects to any of the Nokia 3 hotspot. So does her Alcatel smartphone, a very low level device. Ah, the laptop even connects without problem at all with my wife's Alcatel hotspot. For your case I would check 2 things: 1) `dmesg` output to check if you see any errors from your network card driver or if its loaded correctly. I definitely exclude any problems with the network card driver, because it perfectly works with many other wifi devices, as I told above. Nevertheless I'll follow your suggestion as soon as I come back home. 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you re looking for is detected from the hardware. This is interesting, I didn't know this command. It would rather strange if the hotspot is shown by the above command but not by Network Manager.Thanks a lots. Regards -- Nektarios Katakis
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Aug 7, 2019 16:15, Curt wrote:On 2019-08-07, Nimrod wrote: > > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem via > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > I really have no idea, but I was just reading that if it's a 5 ghz hotspot you've created, an older device might not be able see it. I thought so too, but my hotspot is 2.4 GHz, and I can't even change that. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On 2019-08-07, Nimrod wrote: > > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem via > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > I really have no idea, but I was just reading that if it's a 5 ghz hotspot you've created, an older device might not be able see it. -- “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.” ― Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's Fan
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Aug 7, 2019 11:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:Quoting Nimrod (2019-08-07 10:42:09) > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartphone (Android up to date): > > 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia 3 > hotspot. > > 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet has > a rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it cannot be > updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks around > (currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, Italy, but > almost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi networks) > > 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia 3 > smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and I > checked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet in > point 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem > via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When the wi-fi > hotspot was working the speed was much higher. > > Some data: > > - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; Buster > is up to date > - all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update > > Thanks in advance for any hint. Perhaps your hotspot uses insecure encryption rejected by modern systems? Some encryption (e.g. WEP) is so insecure that it is practically useless: If you cannot upgrade then consider turning off encryption altogether and see if that works. Thanks, Jonas,but the encryption provided by Nokia 3 hotspot is WPA2, and it works perfectly with many client devices, except for my laptop.Since I upgraded to Buster, it worked for a while, but some days ago it stopped working.I repeat, it doesn't work with my laptop only, and my laptop can't connect with Nokia 3 hotspots only.This is rather weird.Best regards. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:42:09 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > Hi, > > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartphone (Android up to date): > > 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia 3 > hotspot. > > 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet has > a rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it cannot be > updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks around > (currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, Italy, but > almost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi networks) > > 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia 3 > smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and I > checked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet in > point 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem > via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When the wi-fi > hotspot was working the speed was much higher. > > Some data: > > - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; Buster > is up to date > - all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > > A good place to check your wireless issues is the excellent wifi howto page from debian docs https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse. You re not mentioning what software you re using to connect to wifi. For your case I would check 2 things: 1) `dmesg` output to check if you see any errors from your network card driver or if its loaded correctly. 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you re looking for is detected from the hardware. Regards -- Nektarios Katakis
Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
Quoting Nimrod (2019-08-07 10:42:09) > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartphone (Android up to date): > > 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia 3 > hotspot. > > 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet has > a rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it cannot be > updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks around > (currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, Italy, but > almost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi networks) > > 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia 3 > smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and I > checked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet in > point 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem > via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When the wi-fi > hotspot was working the speed was much higher. > > Some data: > > - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; Buster > is up to date > - all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update > > Thanks in advance for any hint. Perhaps your hotspot uses insecure encryption rejected by modern systems? Some encryption (e.g. WEP) is so insecure that it is practically useless: If you cannot upgrade then consider turning off encryption altogether and see if that works. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...
Hi, my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is very relevant for me. Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 smartphone (Android up to date): 1) any smartphone or tablet in the family can connect to my Nokia 3 hotspot. 2) my laptop can connect at least to a tablet hotspot (the tablet has a rather old Android version, I guess 6 or even less, and it cannot be updated); also, my laptop finds a lot of wi-fi networks around (currently I'm in a building in the small town of Anzio, Italy, but almost every corner of the town is full of wi-fi networks) 3) my laptop cannot even see any hotspot provided by a Nokia 3 smartphone with Android up to date; we have three of them, and I checked everyone one of them: they all can be used by the tablet in point 2) above, and none of them are even found by my laptop. It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem via Bluetooth, but the connection is rather slow. When the wi-fi hotspot was working the speed was much higher. Some data: - the laptop is a HP 6730s, quite slow but incredibly robust; Buster is up to date - all the Nokia 3 have Android 9 July update Thanks in advance for any hint. -- Nimrod
