Debian Weekly News?
I haven't had the last two edition of Debian Weekly News. I thought that I'd somehow become unsubscribed from the list, but when I went to the site, it seems I have all of them and the October editions that I'm missing haven't been sent. Any idea what's wrong? The only thing I can think of is pressure from the upcoming release of Etch... I really enjoy reading about what's going on and miss my DWN... -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Weekly News
Hi all, I found this great link from LWN. But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find it... Am I missing something?? PS: There are also some great links in Debian Weekly News which I cannot find them in the debian home page... Thx... Shao.
Re: Debian Weekly News?
* Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Oct 16 12:42 -0500]: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > >>From the September 26 DWN: > >> > >>As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to > >>experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due > >>to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that > >>they will only be released less frequently. > >> > >I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. > > It's even worse "form" (and foolish) to complain in a public forum about > how much time volunteers spend working for a volunteer project. While volunteering is laudable and everone that has contributed to Debian and Free Software has my sincere thanks, volunteers aren't necessarily above reproach. Generally, when a volunteer has a lack of time, they ask for help, if they don't receive it, then appropriate steps must be taken. As I read it, this was not one of those cases. The DWN author apparently felt a strong disagreement with the DPL and opted to take out his frustration on his readership, many of them not Debian Developers and thus not even a part of the process in question. I suspect that had the DWN author announced that he wished to transfer his volunteer task to another volunteer there would have been well-wishes toward him and no ill will regardless of the stated reason. As it is, he opted instead to spite a large portion of the community that wasn't even a part of the disagreement in question. His actions are similar to a school yard pout and thus are fair game for comment. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nate Bargmann wrote: * Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Oct 16 12:42 -0500]: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: >From the September 26 DWN: As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be released less frequently. I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. It's even worse "form" (and foolish) to complain in a public forum about how much time volunteers spend working for a volunteer project. While volunteering is laudable and everone that has contributed to Debian and Free Software has my sincere thanks, volunteers aren't necessarily above reproach. Generally, when a volunteer has a lack of time, they ask for help, if they don't receive it, then appropriate steps must be taken. As I read it, this was not one of those cases. His blog indicates his thought process and his decision better than I can. It's in public view. The DWN author apparently felt a strong disagreement with the DPL and opted to take out his frustration on his readership, many of them not Debian Developers and thus not even a part of the process in question. I suspect that had the DWN author announced that he wished to transfer his volunteer task to another volunteer there would have been well-wishes toward him and no ill will regardless of the stated reason. As it is, he opted instead to spite a large portion of the community that wasn't even a part of the disagreement in question. His actions are similar to a school yard pout and thus are fair game for comment. Everything on the Internet is "fair game for comment". :-) But seriously -- would folks rather he'd just walked away without an announcement or offer to have someone else take it over? I think he did it correctly. Someone continuing to work on something in a volunteer organization that they don't really want to do is a huge recipe for disaster. I have seen that before. And not announcing that you're leaving also leaves holes to be filled that are unknown. I think he did the *exact* correct thing. Cut ties, announce your intentions publicly, be done with it, and move on. As a volunteer you really don't have any more responsibility than that, ever. You can *choose* to hang on for a while or try to make it an easier transistion, but you don't *have* to. KNOWING what motivates "staff" is 100% the job of the people running the show -- if the people that made certain decisions that led to Joey being unhappy with being involved in the project didn't know or pay any attention to the possible consequences and risks of their decisions, THEY were the ones negligent. People are your most important resource in any volunteer organization, and having run a volunteer organization now for just over a year (unrelated to Linux), I work harder on figuring out what keeps my group's volunteers and people happy and productive than I work on anything else in the organization. I know who likes to work with whom, which people shouldn't be put in the same room together, what talents each person has and what they'd like to accomplish in and around the organization's goals, etc. And I'd *know* if any policy change or decision would alienate certain "staff" and be PREPARED to deal with the consequences if that happened. They didn't pay any attention and got caught with their pants down with no "backup" plan for how to replace a DWN author. (This might indicate that they also had never thought about how important DWN is as a resource for the organization -- another sign they're not paying attention.) I'd say -- Joey did what I'd expect any volunteer who was blindsided by a policy decision above their heads would do -- quit immediately and cleanly. If the people above him didn't see that coming, they weren't paying attention to their most important resource and deserve to have to spend a lot of time and effort fixing it. It's the only way they'll learn to not neglect that aspect of their jobs EVER again. Nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2006-10-13 20:40:55, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. This would be quiet expensive over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS while iMode and Mailaccess (IMAP/POP3/SMTP) is free at my GSM provider. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-10-13 20:40:55, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. This would be quiet expensive over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS while iMode and Mailaccess (IMAP/POP3/SMTP) is free at my GSM provider. So they'll let you pull down a 100MB file from IMAP for free, (which still rides over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS of course) but will charge money for a quick web pull of an RSS feed? Strange. They obviously don't know what they're doing. Nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Am 2006-10-13 20:40:55, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > >>With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. > Michelle Konzack wrote: > >This would be quiet expensive over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS while iMode > >and Mailaccess (IMAP/POP3/SMTP) is free at my GSM provider. On 09.11.06 15:38, Nate Duehr wrote: > So they'll let you pull down a 100MB file from IMAP for free, (which > still rides over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS of course) but will charge money for > a quick web pull of an RSS feed? mailbox size and message size may be attached. And, sending/receiving mail may mean local traffic, while RSS usually does not. > Strange. They obviously don't know what they're doing. even if what I wrote wasn't true, that's mostly marketing and business logic... -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. Microsoft dick is soft to do no harm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2006-11-09 15:38:44, schrieb Nate Duehr: > So they'll let you pull down a 100MB file from IMAP for free, (which > still rides over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS of course) but will charge money for > a quick web pull of an RSS feed? > > Strange. They obviously don't know what they're doing. ;-) It was realy cool since allow Mails up to 100 MByte and my account has 2.5 GByte... I have gotten a message of 12 MByte and and downloaded it since the memory card of my CellPhone has 32 MByte. After this I was gone to the Web-Administration interface of my GSM Provider and there was nothing negative noted... The only restriction are 200 Mails per day. A little bit less since I get per day around 1800 legitime msgs. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Am 2006-11-10 10:30:33, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas: > > >Am 2006-10-13 20:40:55, schrieb Roberto C. Sanchez: > > >>With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. > > > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > >This would be quiet expensive over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS while iMode > > >and Mailaccess (IMAP/POP3/SMTP) is free at my GSM provider. > > On 09.11.06 15:38, Nate Duehr wrote: > > So they'll let you pull down a 100MB file from IMAP for free, (which > > still rides over GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS of course) but will charge money for > > a quick web pull of an RSS feed? > > mailbox size and message size may be attached. And, sending/receiving > mail may mean local traffic, while RSS usually does not. > > > Strange. They obviously don't know what they're doing. > > even if what I wrote wasn't true, that's mostly marketing and business > logic... The UMTS-Differences in France and Germany: France Germany ProviderSFR/Vodaphone Vodaphone Price 75 Euro 30 Euro Speed 384 kBit1.8 MBit Time16 hours730 Hours (= unlimited) Trafic 500 MByte 5 GByte Now calculate the difference! Your brain wil produce a SEGV 2.5 : 1 4.7 : 1 45.6 : 1 10: 1 == 5358 : 1 Thats the live in the European Union. Oh, my GlobelSat connection is cheaper then French GSM/EDGE/UMTS Providers. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSM LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 13 October 2006 11:43, Wulfy wrote: > I haven't had the last two edition of Debian Weekly News. I thought > that I'd somehow become unsubscribed from the list, but when I went to > the site, it seems I have all of them and the October editions that I'm > missing haven't been sent. > > Any idea what's wrong? The only thing I can think of is pressure from > the upcoming release of Etch... > > I really enjoy reading about what's going on and miss my DWN... From the September 26 DWN: As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be released less frequently. j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111
Re: Debian Weekly News?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > > From the September 26 DWN: > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment > with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there > may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be > released less frequently. > I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Joshua J. Kugler wrote: On Friday 13 October 2006 11:43, Wulfy wrote: I haven't had the last two edition of Debian Weekly News. I thought that I'd somehow become unsubscribed from the list, but when I went to the site, it seems I have all of them and the October editions that I'm missing haven't been sent. Any idea what's wrong? The only thing I can think of is pressure from the upcoming release of Etch... I really enjoy reading about what's going on and miss my DWN... From the September 26 DWN: As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be released less frequently. j Thanks, Joshua! I completely missed that. :( -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Friday 13 October 2006 12:10, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > > From the September 26 DWN: > > > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to > > experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due > > to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that > > they will only be released less frequently. > > I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. I don't know if it had anything to do with the Debian funding, I thought it was just a segue. But I could be wrong. j -- Joshua Kugler Lead System Admin -- Senior Programmer http://www.eeinternet.com PGP Key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ID 0xDB26D7CE PO Box 80086 -- Fairbanks, AK 99708 -- Ph: 907-456-5581 Fax: 907-456-3111 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 12:22:23PM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > On Friday 13 October 2006 12:10, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > > > From the September 26 DWN: > > > > > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to > > > experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due > > > to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that > > > they will only be released less frequently. > > > > I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. > > I don't know if it had anything to do with the Debian funding, I thought it > was just a segue. But I could be wrong. > that's how I read it -- seque. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > On Friday 13 October 2006 12:10, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: > > > From the September 26 DWN: > > > > > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to > > > experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due > > > to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that > > > they will only be released less frequently. > > > > I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. > > I don't know if it had anything to do with the Debian funding, I thought it > was just a segue. But I could be wrong. I think Joey meant to at least imply a casual connection. I've considered taking over writing DWN again (if you're confused, I'm the other Joey who originally started it in '99). However, it's not clear to me that DWN is still relevant enough to be worth the large amount of work it takes to maintain it[1]. A lot of communication is done on Planet Debian, wikis and in other forms that were not around when DWN was started, and that may be a better way to keep up with what's going on in Debian than DWN. -- see shy jo [1] And I'm no longer employed at a job that lets me do it on work time either. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Joey Hess wrote: I've considered taking over writing DWN again (if you're confused, I'm the other Joey who originally started it in '99). However, it's not clear to me that DWN is still relevant enough to be worth the large amount of work it takes to maintain it[1]. A lot of communication is done on Planet Debian, wikis and in other forms that were not around when DWN was started, and that may be a better way to keep up with what's going on in Debian than DWN. The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing lists. DWN comes to me... with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:12AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > >I've considered taking over writing DWN again (if you're confused, I'm > >the other Joey who originally started it in '99). However, it's not > >clear to me that DWN is still relevant enough to be worth the large > >amount of work it takes to maintain it[1]. A lot of communication is done > >on Planet Debian, wikis and in other forms that were not around when DWN > >was > >started, and that may be a better way to keep up with what's going on > >in Debian than DWN. > > > > > > The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing > lists. DWN comes to me... with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to > go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me > With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:12AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing lists. DWN comes to me... with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. Regards, -Roberto Thanks, Roberto! -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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* Joshua J. Kugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Oct 13 14:51 -0500]: > On Friday 13 October 2006 11:43, Wulfy wrote: > > I haven't had the last two edition of Debian Weekly News. I thought > > that I'd somehow become unsubscribed from the list, but when I went to > > the site, it seems I have all of them and the October editions that I'm > > missing haven't been sent. > > > > Any idea what's wrong? The only thing I can think of is pressure from > > the upcoming release of Etch... > > > > I really enjoy reading about what's going on and miss my DWN... > > From the September 26 DWN: > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment > with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there > may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be > released less frequently. A rather petulant and small-minded response along the lines of "I'll take my ball and go home" to what seems to me a rather resonable way of meeting a schedule. I fail to see what the big deal is as it seems many developers are paid to work on Debian in one fashion or another. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 08:40:55PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing > > lists. DWN comes to me... with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to > > go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me > > > With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. And searching too: http://planet-search.steve.org.uk/ Steve -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:20:15PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > From the September 26 DWN: > > > > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to > > experiment > > with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there > > may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only > > be > > released less frequently. > > A rather petulant and small-minded response along the lines of "I'll > take my ball and go home" to what seems to me a rather resonable way > of meeting a schedule. I fail to see what the big deal is as it seems > many developers are paid to work on Debian in one fashion or another. > OK. Stop right there! I don't mean that we *can't* hae this dicussion. Rather that this discussion has been "raging" on debian-project for about a week now, and on debian-private before that. Anyhow, you can read that thread here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00036.html Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Friday 13 October 2006 20:40, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:12AM +0100, Wulfy wrote: > > Joey Hess wrote: > > >I've considered taking over writing DWN again (if you're confused, I'm > > >the other Joey who originally started it in '99). However, it's not > > >clear to me that DWN is still relevant enough to be worth the large > > >amount of work it takes to maintain it[1]. A lot of communication is > > > done on Planet Debian, wikis and in other forms that were not around > > > when DWN was > > >started, and that may be a better way to keep up with what's going on > > >in Debian than DWN. > > > > The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing > > lists. DWN comes to me... with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to > > go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me > > With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation. > It is not the same however. There is also another crucial (well, atleast to me) difference. In planet debian, the author can choose to remove their posts after some period. Where as in a mailing list kind of interface, when I get the email, I get to keep it forever. raju -- http://groups.google.com/group/ask-anything/about -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:50:41AM -0800, Joshua J. Kugler wrote: From the September 26 DWN: As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to experiment with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only be released less frequently. I'd say that is quite poor form/sour grapes/whatever. It's even worse "form" (and foolish) to complain in a public forum about how much time volunteers spend working for a volunteer project. Nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Shao Zhang wrote: > I found this great link from LWN. > > But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find > it... > > Am I missing something?? It's not linked to from the debian homepage yet, being only 3 weeks old. The url to it is http://www.debian.org/~joeyh/weeklynews/ -- see shy jo, Debian Weekly News editor
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> I found this great link from LWN. > But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find it... I think the Debian Weekly News is a great addition to our community too. To address your concern, the DWN seems to be a separate entity from the "official" Debian web site. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
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On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 20:08:35 -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: > > I found this great link from LWN. > > But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find it... > > I think the Debian Weekly News is a great addition to our community too. > To address your concern, the DWN seems to be a separate entity from the > "official" Debian web site. It's available at http://www.debian.org/~joeyh/weeklynews/ ; as "official" is a relative term with Debian, it might be a good suggestion to have it incorporated from the top site page. webmaster? Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 20:08:35 -0500, Randy Edwards wrote: > > > I found this great link from LWN. > > > But, then I went back to the debian home page, and coundn't find it... > > > > I think the Debian Weekly News is a great addition to our community too. > > To address your concern, the DWN seems to be a separate entity from the > > "official" Debian web site. > > It's available at http://www.debian.org/~joeyh/weeklynews/ ; as "official" > is a relative term with Debian, it might be a good suggestion to have it > incorporated from the top site page. webmaster? Yes, I've been meaning to ask for it to be linked from somehwere on the site of for you to help me get it onto the main site if you think that's a good idea. -- see shy jo, editor, DWN
Debian Weekly News - December 27th, 1999
-- Debian Weekly News http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/ Debian Weekly News - December 27th, 1999 -- Welcome to Debian Weekly News, a newsletter for the Debian developer community. Once again we skipped a week; this is a two week edition. Debian weekly news has now summarized a full year of events in Debian. A [8]timeline of the most important stories of 1999 is available as a special supplement to this issue. Debian has won the 1999 Linux Journal Readers' Choice award for "Favorite Distribution". We won with 27.3% of the vote, compared to 27.0% for SuSE and 23.6% for Red Hat. The award appears in the January edition of [9]Linux Journal. Richard Braakman [10]posted plans for the freeze. No completely new packages (like those listed near the end of this newsletter) will be accepted after January 2nd. He also mentions another bug-squashing event. And it looks like the next version of Debian will be code-named "woody", continuing the Toy Story theme (and opening the door for lots of off-color jokes). Richard followed up with a post that looks beyond the freeze and outlines a timeline for release. [11]The plan is to go through one of two short "test cycles" inside a very short freeze, releasing near the end of February. Lintian now supports local overrides. This allows a package to say that it knows it triggers a lintian error or warning, but it wants that ignored. Use these overrides with caution, and be sure to read [12]this message first. Should /sbin and /usr/sbin be in a normal user's path so they can easily run traceroute and other similar programs? It seems that many people [13]make this change when installing Debian. Since the [14]FHS says that "users should not have to place any of the sbin directories in their path", people seem to agree that the real problem is that traceroute and some other programs do not belong in sbin in the first place. But just how to fix this without breaking things that expect to find these programs in sbin is still under discussion; symlinks would seem to be the easy solution but some people [15]dislike that idea. The source code for Quake 1 was GPL'd last week, resulting in several ITP's and other posts wondering when it would be put in Debian. Be assured that the current maintainer of the quake packages in non-free does intend to package the source and move it into main. After that was resolved, another concern came up. It seems that quake and doom are [16]not allowed in some countries, including Brazil and ([17]maybe) Germany because of their violent content. People running a full Debian mirror in those countries could get in legal trouble for distributing these games. Of course, quake and doom have been present in non-free for quite a while, and have already presumably been mirrored into those countries. A long thread resulted, with no real conclusion reached yet. Concerned mirror admins in these countries might want to set up some local exclusions for these games in the mean time. CD images for 2.1r4 are available now from [18]cdimage.debian.org For the first time, systems are being sold preinstalled with not just Debian GNU/Linux, but with Debian GNU/Hurd preinstalled as well on a separate partition. Space-Time Systems is the British company [19]offering these systems. Two more sparc machines are [20]available for developers to use. Following up to last edition's item about Ian Murdock's Progeny project, here is a [21]message from Ian with some details. New packages in Debian include the following and [22]38 more: * [23]cyrus-common: Cyrus mail system (common files) ([24]admin, [25]dev, [26]imapd, [27]nntp, [28]pop3d) [non-free] * [29]funnelweb: A literate-programming tool ([30]doc) * [31]mmix-src: Assembler and Simulator for Knuth's MMIX [non-free] * [32]nethack-spoilers: Spoiler files for the Nethack adventure game * [33]tasksel: New task packages selector Thanks to Randolph Chung for [34]contributing. _ References 8. http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/timeline 9. http://www.linuxjournal.com/ 10. http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/mail#2 11. http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/mail#3 12. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9912/msg00971.html 13. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9912/msg00944.html 14. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9912/msg01150.html 15. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9912/msg01150.html 16. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9912/msg01159.html 17. http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/mail#1 18. http://cdimage.debian.org/ 19. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/
Re: Debian Weekly News - December 12th, 2001
(This message was sent to Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and the -devel list. I screwed up the copy to -user.) > Too Many Acronyms? The Debian mailing lists are rife with Linux gurus > and newbies alike. When a newbie wanders into a discussion the acronym > and jargon ratio is usually more than they can bear. Mark Bucciarelli > [9]brought this up on the Debian Java list, but it's a problem on > other lists as well. Even competent computer users get confused > because many acronyms are Debian-specific. (Like NMU, ITP, BTS, > etc...) Naturally a technical community like the Debian crowd isn't > going to stop using jargon and acronyms -- nor should they, they're > more efficient and that's why they're used in the first place. Perhaps > it's time for a Debian Glossary project, though? I (Zonker) am > throwing the idea out there to see if people are interested. If so, > I'll set up an alias for folks willing to work on such a project. I > (Joey) am already maintaining such a [10]list, contributions are > welcome, of course. Joey Hess began compiling a Debian Dictionary several years ago, and I offered to package it formatted for the Dict protocol. After discussion, he and I decided it was too small to warrant a separate package, and would be best combined with the FOLDOC (Free On-line Dictionary of Computing). I have submitted many Debian-specific terms and acronyms to the editor of the FOLDOC, and Debian-specific acronyms to the editor of V.E.R.A. Most of these have been incorporated in the upstream packages, and I include the others in the debian packages pending their incorporation upstream. Most of these Debian-specific terms and definitions have been submitted to me by Debian users and developers, and I am always happy to receive more. For the benefit of those new to Debian: apt-get install dict dictd - provides the infrastructure to access these dictionaries. apt-get install dict-foldoc dict-vera dict-jargon - provides computer related dictionaries that include many Debian-specific terms as well as general computer-related terms. apt-cache show dictd - The package description lists the other dictionaries packaged for Debian. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559 PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9
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Thought debian-user subscribers might be interested. - Forwarded message from Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) From: Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:46:53 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Let's resurrect Debian Weekly News Hi! As many of you might have noticed, our weekly newsletter died more or less some time ago[1]. Considering that to be a great loss and a shame for a project as large as Debian, I think it's high time to resurrect it! Guessing that it might take a bit of time to get things rolling again, the aim for the start is to have at least a newsletter on a two week basis in english (and if volunteers pop up in other languages, too). How can you help? = If you like to become an editor or proof reader, please subscribe to the debian-publicity mailing list. But even if you consider your english to be not good enough you can still be of help! Of course it's impossible to be at any place and watch everything, so we need your help to report noteworthy things to the debian-publicity mailing list. That includes watching our mailing list as well as news sites, blogs and other mailing lists about Debian, Linux and IT in general. What should you report? === In short: Everything which could have a noticable impact on the Debian Project or its user base. You saw an interesting blog or news about Debian? Report it to us! There is an interesting discussion on one of our mailing list? Report it to us! You are about to announce a nice improvement about your subproject? Report it to us! Just send us a small note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are going to present Debian at a conference or exhibition? What are you waiting for? Report it to us! The worst thing that could happen is that you report so much stuff that we need to send out our newsletter on a weekly basis again ;) Read you in two weeks, Alexander, with his "press"-hat on 1: Neither http://times.debian.net/ nor the recently started Developer News are a full replacement of the good old DWN; the first has technical problems and isn't reporting "the small things" the later is targeting a different audience. - End forwarded message - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian Weekly News - January 30th, 2002
Reading these news items in the latest DWN, one could be drawn to the conclusion that woody is dead. I would just like to know what other people who are more in the know think. Sometimes it makes me think, 'to hell with Debian, go with another distro that's got a future.' But I really think Debian does have a future. Curtis Welcome to the fifth issue of DWN, the weekly newsletter for the Debian community. The past week has been an exciting one. A lot of talk with regard to the upcoming release of woody took place on the [1]debian-devel list. This issue contains items by Tollef Fog Heen and Yooseong Yang, which are greatly appreciated. The mail version of this issue uses a new style for embedding links which was generated by a script provided by Aaron Schrab. Please let us know if it makes DWN easier to read or not. 1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/ Adrian Bunk Retired. Since the woody release is making only very little progress (if any), Adrian Bunk [22]decided to retire from the Debian project entirely, and has orphaned all of his packages. The current release process has led to very few motivation on Adrians side and he doesn't see his work honored in Debian in form of a new stable release in the forseeable future. 22. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0201/msg02160.html Addressing the Release. Anthony Towns posted a [23]roundup targetting the woody release. Basically he says that there is currently no real progress. There is absolutely no magic that can be done to make a bunch of buggy useless software acceptable as a Debian release. We shouldn't resign, though. Indeed, it is quite obvious what needs to be done: we need to fix these bugs. 23. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0201/msg00014.html <>
Re: Debian Weekly News - January 30th, 2002
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:10:33AM -0800, Vaughan, Curtis wrote: > Reading these news items in the latest DWN, one could be drawn to the > conclusion that woody is dead. I would just like to know what other people > who are more in the know think. No, it's just pretty slow. Progress since the release manager's most recent comments on debian-devel-announce seems to have been accelerating (see http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/). A number of developers are putting a great deal of effort into fixing the outstanding bugs right now. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Weekly News - January 30th, 2002
> > Reading these news items in the latest DWN, one could be drawn to the > > conclusion that woody is dead. I would just like to know what other people > > who are more in the know think. > > No, it's just pretty slow. Progress since the release manager's most At times I update woody twice a day and woody seems to be developing fine as far as I can tell.
Mirrors <<< Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th, 2000
According to [1], the mirrors will be afected, so to create them it is said the
some "exclude" tweaking must be done. Does anyone have the info -or the script-
for what exactly is meant
Mirroring Potato, getting ready for 2.2_r1
Joey Hess wrote:
> -------
> Debian Weekly News
> http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/current/issue/
> Debian Weekly News - October 25th, 2000
> -------
>
> Welcome to Debian Weekly News, a newsletter for the Debian community.
>
> Debian has package pools! James Troup [1]revealed that "for the last
> month and a half, I've been working on re-implementing dinstall and
> switching to package pools." His message gives details about how
> regular users, developers, and mirror admins will be affected (not
> much, not much, and a great deal), the new layout of the Debian
> archive, the database backend, the migration strategy ("an
> as-of-yet-unwritten tool will migrated n Mb of data a day into the
> pool from the legacy dists/ tree"), and the timeline before this is
> put in place on the Debian archive (about two weeks).
>
> A beta version of the LSB-FHS test suite was ran against several major
> distributions including Debian woody, which failed 17 tests out of
> 243. A [2]chart shows that other distributions failed many more, while
> SuSE only failed 5. The [3]detailed report of Debian's failures is
> interesting reading. After [4]examining each failure, Wichert
> Akkerman commented, "Not all of the test results are fair in my
> opinion: some are real bugs in Debian, others are bugs in the
> testsuite or the result of using an incomplete install." Some were
> really bugs in the test suite, a few were things that should [5]not
> be in the FHS, and 6 of the 9 remaining failures "can be fixed by
> simply creating empty directories" Since FHS editor Daniel Quinlan and
> the [6]author of the test suite are involved in the discussion, it
> appears that all of these things will be eventually worked out.
>
> Why isn't Helix Gnome in Debian yet? For a while now there has been
> duplication of effort, with Peter Teichman of Helix maintaining an apt
> repository of Helix Gnome packages, and other Debian developers
> maintaining regular Gnome in Debian. The only real reason for this
> duplication of work is that Peter thinks that there might be
> [7]copyright problems with some of the images in Helix Gnome, but
> he's not sure, and for whatever reason this question has been
> unresolved for some time now. Meanwhile, some folks [8]feel that "the
> woody packages aren't BAD, but after using Helix, going back feels
> like a serious downgrade", and others [9]have found that the Helix
> packages "do not have the same quality when it comes to dependencies
> and such". A subthread that tried to list the differences between the
> two sets of packages found very little of note besides Helix's
> branding. Whatever the differences, many people are using the Helix
> debs, and bothering Debian developers with things like [10]this bug
> report. This situation really needs to be resolved before it has a
> chance to turn ugly.
>
> Debian's newest server is klecker.debian.org, which is now serving as
> Debian's [11]main web server. Of course, it's named after Joel "Espy"
> Klecker. Unfortunately, many home directories from the old
> va.debian.org machine, which suffered a disk failure, have still not
> been recovered and may be [12]gone for good. A new hostname,
> people.debian.org has also been [13]set up, "which will exclusively be
> used for individual web pages". Developers with personal Debian web
> pages should begin using URLs based on the new domain name.
>
> New packages in Debian this week include the following, and [14]80
> more:
> * [15]insight: Graphical debugger based on gdb
> * [16]kannel: WAP and SMS gateway
> * [17]scigraphica: Scientific graphics and data manipulation
> * [18]webmin: Web based administration interface
>
> There were no security announcements this week.
>
> More and more Debian news sources are appearing. The latest arrival is
> [19]Debian Planet, a web site providing Debian news in a weblog
> format. In the meantime, [20]Kernel Cousin Debian is up to their 7th
> issue, but still needs more contributors.
>
> ---
> References
> 1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0010/msg7.html
> 2. http://www.linuxbase.org/test/results/
> 3. http://www.linuxbase.org/test/results/Detailed_Debian_
Re: Mirrors <<< Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th, 2000
In your message of: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:20:27 EDT, you write: >According to [1], the mirrors will be afected, so to create them it is said the >some "exclude" tweaking must be done. Does anyone have the info -or the script- >for what exactly is meant >Mirroring Potato, getting ready for 2.2_r1 I use the "mirror" perl script to maintain a local mirror of i386 potato and woody. So that I do not download files for all of the architectures I am not interested in, my mirror configuration file for the Debian archives has lines like exclude_patt+|binary-sparc|disks-sparc in it. In the future (if I understand things correctly) there will no longer be binary-$arch directories; all of the binaries will be in the same directories. So that I don't download the .deb files for the architectures I do not want I will have to add some lines like exclude_patt+|sparc.deb|sparc.changes
Re: Mirrors <<< Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th, 2000
Jeff Lessem wrote: > In your message of: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:20:27 EDT, you write: > >According to [1], the mirrors will be afected, so to create them it is said > >the > >some "exclude" tweaking must be done. Does anyone have the info -or the > >script- > >for what exactly is meant > >Mirroring Potato, getting ready for 2.2_r1 > > I use the "mirror" perl script to maintain a local mirror of i386 > potato and woody. So that I do not download files for all of the > architectures I am not interested in, my mirror configuration file for > the Debian archives has lines like > exclude_patt+|binary-sparc|disks-sparc > in it. In the future (if I understand things correctly) there will no > longer be binary-$arch directories; all of the binaries will be in > the same directories. So that I don't download the .deb files for the > architectures I do not want I will have to add some lines like > exclude_patt+|sparc.deb|sparc.changes > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Do you mean the mirror option from apt-move? Or some other script? If the last, I have no clue about it. please indicate where
Re: Mirrors <<< Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th, 2000
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 09:55:33PM -0400, A R wrote: > Jeff Lessem wrote: > > > In your message of: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 18:20:27 EDT, you write: > > >According to [1], the mirrors will be afected, so to create them it is > > >said the > > >some "exclude" tweaking must be done. Does anyone have the info -or the > > >script- > > >for what exactly is meant > > >Mirroring Potato, getting ready for 2.2_r1 > > > > I use the "mirror" perl script to maintain a local mirror of i386 > > potato and woody. So that I do not download files for all of the > > architectures I am not interested in, my mirror configuration file for > > the Debian archives has lines like > > exclude_patt+|binary-sparc|disks-sparc > > in it. In the future (if I understand things correctly) there will no > > longer be binary-$arch directories; all of the binaries will be in > > the same directories. So that I don't download the .deb files for the > > architectures I do not want I will have to add some lines like > > exclude_patt+|sparc.deb|sparc.changes > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > Do you mean the mirror option from apt-move? Or some other script? If the > last, I > have no clue about it. please indicate where apt-get install mirror it's a separate package. Has nothing to with apt-get it will just mirror any ftp-site. Nico > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > "It has been said that there are only two businesses refer to customers as users: illegal drug trade and the computer industry." Nico De Ranter Sony Service Center (SDCE/NEE-B) Sint Stevens Woluwestraat 55 (Rue de Woluwe-Saint-Etienne) 1130 Brussel (Bruxelles), Belgium, Europe, Earth Telephone: +32 2 724 86 41 Telefax: +32 2 726 26 86 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portrserve, gidreserve, was Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 09:08:03PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Port Assignments during System Boot. Gernot Salzer [15]noticed that
> some network ports get assigned dynamically during the boot process
> and sometimes clash with daemons that use fixed ports. Javier
> Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a [16]explained that the assignment happens
> inside the GNU C library and [17]started the portsreserve package to
> prevent such cases.
You know, a gidreserve or uidreserve would be useful too.
${EMPLOYER} maps the group "users" to gid 101 instead of what
Debian uses, 100. If one doesn't stop at a completely
bare-bones base install to reserve gid 101 to allow the
conversion from users=100 to users=101, it gets taken up by the
next package that needs a low, but assigned-at-install-time,
gid.
--
Joe
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Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
Removed Packages. 22 packages have been [76]removed from the Debian archive during the past week: 76. http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt * webmin-* -- Web interface for system maintenance, and modules [94]Bug#343897: Request of maintainer, outdated; unmaintained [ please reply to my address also because I am not subscribed to debian-user ] I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages in debian provide similar functionality in a web based interface? I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config interface that webmin does. Thanks, Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
> > I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages > in debian provide similar functionality in a web based > interface? I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and > didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config > interface that webmin does. Any reason you can't use the source version directly from http://www.webmin.com/? It's trivial to install (Unpack, run setup.sh), then all future updates are done within webmin. Regards, MB
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
Michael Bellears wrote: I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages in debian provide similar functionality in a web based interface? I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config interface that webmin does. Any reason you can't use the source version directly from http://www.webmin.com/? It's trivial to install (Unpack, run setup.sh), then all future updates are done within webmin. No reason why I can't. It's just that one of the reasons why I like Debian is that most of what I need is already packaged, and another thing I don't have to worry about from the perspective of security updates. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
Mike Fedyk wrote: Michael Bellears wrote: I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages in debian provide similar functionality in a web based interface? I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config interface that webmin does. No reason why I can't. It's just that one of the reasons why I like Debian is that most of what I need is already packaged, and another thing I don't have to worry about from the perspective of security updates. but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin --at least for stable that I am using. Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
* Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060118 13:49]: > but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) > > http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin > > --at least for stable that I am using. Yes it is in stable, but webmin (as well as usermin) has been removed from unstable recently. Which means: If no one steps in and volunteers, it won't be part of the next stable release. http://bugs.debian.org/343897 Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://learn.to/quote/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin --at least for stable that I am using. I recently asked that it be removed from unstable (and hence future releases) because the packages were buggy, I wasn't motivated to work on it and no one else has ever cared enough to help. Use the upstream tarball for future updates. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Mike Fedyk wrote: Michael Bellears wrote: I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages in debian provide similar functionality in a web based interface? I looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide the general purpose web config interface that webmin does. No reason why I can't. It's just that one of the reasons why I like Debian is that most of what I need is already packaged, and another thing I don't have to worry about from the perspective of security updates. but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin --at least for stable that I am using. Yes, but it was just removed from unstable, so it won't be in the next stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacement for webmin in Debian? was: Debian Weekly News - January 17th, 2006
On Wednesday, 18 January 2006 at 6:51:17 -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > >Mike Fedyk wrote: > > > >>Michael Bellears wrote: > >> > I have a few installs that are using webmin. What packages in > debian provide similar functionality in a web based interface? I > looked at gosa, but it is ldap centric and didn't seem to provide > the general purpose web config interface that webmin does. > >>> > >>> > >>No reason why I can't. It's just that one of the reasons why I like > >>Debian is that most of what I need is already packaged, and another > >>thing I don't have to worry about from the perspective of security > >>updates. > >> > >> > >but webmin is packaged for debian (package webmin) > > > >http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin > > > >--at least for stable that I am using. > > Yes, but it was just removed from unstable, so it won't be in the next > stable. FWIW: I just installed webmin in sid, and was disappointed to find it apparently cannot cope with postgresql-8.1 -- some problem with oids (or perhaps that was the lack of oids). -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: portrserve, gidreserve, was Re: Debian Weekly News - October 25th]
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 08:57:11PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, D. Joe Anderson wrote: > > As per the recommendation below, I'm forwarding this. > > > > - Forwarded message from Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 01:23:08 +0100 > > From: Andrew Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: portrserve, gidreserve, was Re: Debian Weekly News - October > > 25th > > > > On 10/25/05, D. Joe Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You know, a gidreserve or uidreserve would be useful too. > > Very interesting, but why did you send this to -user? I recommend you > > re-post this to debian-devel so that the devs actually become aware of > > it. > > Edit /etc/adduser.conf. So maybe -user was probably the right place to begin after all? Anyway, thanks for the reply, Adam. That does indeed seem like what I need the next time this comes up. -- D. Joe Anderson http://www.etrumeus.com/~deejoe ". . . we could end up with a situation where it's legal to own hardware that automatically fires bullets really fast but illegal to have software that automatically fires bits really fast. -- Jenny Reiswig" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
