Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-29 Thread nick lidakis



Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:


[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label=Windows
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)


Hope this helps,
David Richmond
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It worked like a charm. Thank you very much. I don't recall this 
documented in the lilo man page. I'll have to check again.



nick


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Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis
I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot 
system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was 
using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to 
install them both as master and slave.


fdisk -l /dev/hdb


Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2055 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#

I read the howto's on the LDP and here is an excerpt from my lilo.conf

# Boot up Linux by default.
#
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
   append=video=atyfb:mode:1280x1024:font:SUN12x22
   label=Linux
   read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1

image=/vmlinuz.old
   label=LinuxOLD
   read-only
   optional
#   restricted
#   alias=2

# If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the
# following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to
# where your other OS' partition is.
#
other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
  
When the prompt comes up I can boot int Linux and LinuxOld but not 
windows 98. It just hangs. Lilo is on the master harddrives MBR.


Is there something I overlooked on the HOWTO's



nick


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
 charlene:/etc#
--snip--
 other=/dev/hdb
 label=Windows98

You have to specify the partition number in the other line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
   


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
   



You have to specify the partition number in the other line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 






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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
   


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
   



You have to specify the partition number in the other line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 


I made the changes:   other=/dev/hdb1
 label=Windows98

Ran lilo, rebooted, and the machine still hangs .



nick




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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Kent West

nick lidakis wrote:

Alex Malinovich wrote:


On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 05:50, nick lidakis wrote:

 


  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 1  2055  16506756c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
charlene:/etc#
  


--snip--
 


other=/dev/hdb
   label=Windows98
  



You have to specify the partition number in the other line:

other=/dev/hdb1

-Alex
 


I made the changes:   other=/dev/hdb1
 label=Windows98

Ran lilo, rebooted, and the machine still hangs .



nick



If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).


Kent



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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis


If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).


Kent





So I would have to physically switch the drives (and jumpers) around?


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread David Richmond
On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
 I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
 system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
 the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
 using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
 install them both as master and slave.
[snip]

Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:

[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label=Windows
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)

Hope this helps,
David Richmond
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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
 Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on 
 the 
 primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
 master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
 drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly. 
  
 Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:
 
 [snip]
 other=/dev/hdc1
   label=Windows
   loader = /boot/chain.b
  map-drive = 0x80
  to = 0x81
  map-drive = 0x81
  to = 0x80
   table = /dev/hdc
 [snip]

Yes, Windows wants to be the 1st drive all of the time. But that
doesn't mean you have to give into it :)

The easiest way I found (if you do not want Windows on the 1st drive)
is to install linux on the primary 1st, then disconnect the drive.
Move the 2nd disk to the primary, and install windows on it. Move it
back to the 2ndary, put back the linux drive and adjust your
bootloader.

This way, if you ever bonk your linux drive for any reason, you can
still move the Win partition back to primary and let it boot itself.


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:30, David Richmond wrote:
 On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
  I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
  system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
  the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
  using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
  install them both as master and slave.
 [snip]
 
 Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on 
 the 
 primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
--snip--

I think that's only relevant if you install 98 first. I dual boot 98 and
linux on my laptop, and 98 is on hda2 while linux is hda1. The 98
bootloader probably wouldn't like that, but since I'm using lilo, the 98
bootloader never comes into play. I don't know how it reacts to being on
a slave drive though as I've only got a single HD.

-Alex


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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Scott Henson
On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 08:11, nick lidakis wrote:
 
  If I'm not mistaken, Win98 insists on being in the first partition on 
  the first drive (e.g. /dev/hda1).
 
  Kent
 
 
 
 
 So I would have to physically switch the drives (and jumpers) around?
nope
Grub and I think LILO both have the ability to switch the drive bios
numbers around thus fooling windows.  But the good news is that you can
leave win98 on hda1 and just install grub or lilo to hda.  I have had
this set up for quite a while even though I never boot into windows
anymore.  I dont even know if grub will boot windows acctually... havent
had a need to boot to windows since I changed over to grub... oh well...
I hear it works though.
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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread nick lidakis

David Richmond wrote:


On Friday 28 June 2002 03:50 am, nick lidakis wrote:
 


I currently have 2 hard drives and was trying to set up a dual boot
system. The jumpers are propoerly set and the bios recognises them
the 40gb is the master with linux. The 16gb is the windows 98. I was
using the in a removable hard drive tray configuration but decided to
install them both as master and slave.
   


[snip]

Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be on the 
primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the primary 
master and the windows drive is the secondary master, but LILO remaps the 
drives when booting windows to make the windows drive the primary on the fly.  
Here's the relevant section of my /etc/lilo.conf:


[snip]
other=/dev/hdc1
label=Windows
loader = /boot/chain.b
   map-drive = 0x80
   to = 0x81
   map-drive = 0x81
   to = 0x80
table = /dev/hdc
[snip]

I had a similar problem as yours; I finally found the answer in a SuSE manual.  
Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
:)


Hope this helps,
David Richmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 


Thank you, I'll try it tonight. I only keep Win98 to play some Rogue Spear.


nick



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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread David Richmond
On Friday 28 June 2002 05:36 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-06-28 at 19:30, David Richmond wrote:
 
  Windows really wants to be the master, I think; in fact, it wants to be
  on the primary master.  My configuration is that the linux drive is the
  primary

 --snip--

 I think that's only relevant if you install 98 first. I dual boot 98 and
 linux on my laptop, and 98 is on hda2 while linux is hda1. The 98
 bootloader probably wouldn't like that, but since I'm using lilo, the 98
 bootloader never comes into play. I don't know how it reacts to being on
 a slave drive though as I've only got a single HD.

 -Alex

AFAIK, Windows _is_ fine booting off a partition when LILO is in the master 
boot record of the same hard drive.  However, when Windows is on a separate 
drive from LILO, the Windows bootloader is resident in the MBR on the 
separate drive, and _it_ balks at being anything other than primaryI 
think.  Hence the ability in lilo.conf to mangle the drive order before LILO 
passes control to the MBR of the other drive.

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Re: Dual boot win98 w/ 2 hard drives

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Price
On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:30:47PM -0700, David Richmond wrote:
 Of course, now it doesn't matter, as I don't boot into windows anymore.. 
 :)

what's this windows stuff anyway? isn't that just a program that runs on
AOL?  Or a plugin for internet explorer?

aloha,
dave 


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