Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani

On Saturday 14 December 2013 12:06 PM, Kailash Kalyani wrote:

On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:


On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:


I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's
for
Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
claims that a dependency should be broken. After closing and opening
Synaptic everything is ok.


If apt-get does work, than a not buggy Synaptic must work too ;).


apt, aptitude and synaptic handle package install conflicts differently.

These tools do the same in trivial situations like installing or
removing package from the main archive.

But, put a number of packages with the same name and different versions
(add versioned dependencies to the picture) - and these 3 tools start
behaving differently. Add the fact that any package in backports
archive has special version that is _lower_ that any version in main
archive - and sometimes these tools may produce funny results.

Basically, apt provides you with the most dumb solution possible
(works most of the time) - install what you want, upgrade dependencies.

Aptitude gives you multiple ways of installing package (and one has to
choose carefully) - install what you want, upgrade/downgrade
dependencies (and may remove something just for fun :).

Synaptic assumes that you are not lazy, and will use Ctrl+E (IIRC, may
be wrong) to force particular versions for needed packages.

So, it's possible to use Synaptic for the task, it just will violate
the great IBM principle - 'People should think, machine should work'.

Reco



Hi,

Apt-get gave me the following error:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~)
but 0.109.1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

And so I installed initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports first and then
the linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae

However, was apt-get correct in not attempting to upgrade
initramfs-tools as well?

Thanks,
Kailash

FYI only.

My new install of the kernel caused VirtualBox to stop functioning:
I followed the following steps:
1. Installed the wheezy-backports version of VirtualBox (no change- the 
kernel modules failed to start)
2. Tried to check versions of dkms - have the latest stable (no updates 
in backports)
3. After looking through VirtualBox installation page 
(http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#install-linux-host)

I figured I was missing the headers for the new kernel.
4. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae
followed by
sudo apt-get install virtualbox/wheezy-backports --reinstall

fixed the issue.

Hope this helps.
K.


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Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530
Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apt-get gave me the following error:
 
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~) 
 but 0.109.1 is to be installed
 E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
 
 And so I installed initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports first and then 
 the linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae
 
 However, was apt-get correct in not attempting to upgrade 
 initramfs-tools as well?

Yes, it was. Compare this:

# apt-get install linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64 : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~)
but 0.109.1 is to be installed E:
Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages


To this:

apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64

The following extra packages will be installed:
  initramfs-tools
Suggested packages:
  linux-doc-3.11 debian-kernel-handbook
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
  initramfs-tools


Unless you allow apt to search dependencies outside of preferred
release (wheezy) - it will try to install from backports only the
package you've told it to install (i.e. linux-image).

Reco


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Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani

On Saturday 14 December 2013 02:22 PM, Reco wrote:

  Hi.

On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530
Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote:


Apt-get gave me the following error:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~)
but 0.109.1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

And so I installed initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports first and then
the linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae

However, was apt-get correct in not attempting to upgrade
initramfs-tools as well?


Yes, it was. Compare this:

# apt-get install linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64

The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64 : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~)
but 0.109.1 is to be installed E:
Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages


To this:

apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64

The following extra packages will be installed:
   initramfs-tools
Suggested packages:
   linux-doc-3.11 debian-kernel-handbook
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64
The following packages will be upgraded:
   initramfs-tools


Unless you allow apt to search dependencies outside of preferred
release (wheezy) - it will try to install from backports only the
package you've told it to install (i.e. linux-image).

Reco



Thanks for the clarification! Much appreciated!
K


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(SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-13 Thread Kailash Kalyani

On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:


On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:


I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
claims that a dependency should be broken. After closing and opening
Synaptic everything is ok.


If apt-get does work, than a not buggy Synaptic must work too ;).


apt, aptitude and synaptic handle package install conflicts differently.

These tools do the same in trivial situations like installing or
removing package from the main archive.

But, put a number of packages with the same name and different versions
(add versioned dependencies to the picture) - and these 3 tools start
behaving differently. Add the fact that any package in backports
archive has special version that is _lower_ that any version in main
archive - and sometimes these tools may produce funny results.

Basically, apt provides you with the most dumb solution possible
(works most of the time) - install what you want, upgrade dependencies.

Aptitude gives you multiple ways of installing package (and one has to
choose carefully) - install what you want, upgrade/downgrade
dependencies (and may remove something just for fun :).

Synaptic assumes that you are not lazy, and will use Ctrl+E (IIRC, may
be wrong) to force particular versions for needed packages.

So, it's possible to use Synaptic for the task, it just will violate
the great IBM principle - 'People should think, machine should work'.

Reco



Hi,

Apt-get gave me the following error:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools ( 0.110~) 
but 0.109.1 is to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

And so I installed initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports first and then 
the linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae


However, was apt-get correct in not attempting to upgrade 
initramfs-tools as well?


Thanks,
Kailash


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Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote:

 My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports 
 without breaking a stable install. What am I missing?

Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task.

Try:

apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae

Reco


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Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
  Hi.
 
 On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
 Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports 
  without breaking a stable install. What am I missing?
 
 Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task.
 
 Try:
 
 apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae
 
 Reco

I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
claims that a dependency should be broken. After closing and opening
Synaptic everything is ok.



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Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:03 +0400, Reco wrote:
   Hi.
  
  On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:17:02 +0530
  Kailash Kalyani listskail...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   My understanding is that it should be possible to install backports 
   without breaking a stable install. What am I missing?
  
  Sure, it is possible. You're just using wrong tool for the task.
  
  Try:
  
  apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae
  
  Reco
 
 I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
 Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
 claims that a dependency should be broken. After closing and opening
 Synaptic everything is ok.

If apt-get does work, than a not buggy Synaptic must work too ;).



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Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-12 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  
  I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps it's for
  Debian broken too. Sometimes nothing is inconsistent, but Synaptic
  claims that a dependency should be broken. After closing and opening
  Synaptic everything is ok.
 
 If apt-get does work, than a not buggy Synaptic must work too ;).

apt, aptitude and synaptic handle package install conflicts differently.

These tools do the same in trivial situations like installing or
removing package from the main archive.

But, put a number of packages with the same name and different versions
(add versioned dependencies to the picture) - and these 3 tools start
behaving differently. Add the fact that any package in backports
archive has special version that is _lower_ that any version in main
archive - and sometimes these tools may produce funny results.

Basically, apt provides you with the most dumb solution possible
(works most of the time) - install what you want, upgrade dependencies.

Aptitude gives you multiple ways of installing package (and one has to
choose carefully) - install what you want, upgrade/downgrade
dependencies (and may remove something just for fun :).

Synaptic assumes that you are not lazy, and will use Ctrl+E (IIRC, may
be wrong) to force particular versions for needed packages.

So, it's possible to use Synaptic for the task, it just will violate
the great IBM principle - 'People should think, machine should work'.

Reco


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Re: LILO not run after kernel install/update

2009-06-07 Thread jidanni
Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk writes:
 Well, re-sending since nobody replied...
 P.S. no, I won't use grub.
Hmmm. Maybe the two sentences are related.

Even me, kicking and screaming, finally am using grub (grub2).
Let's see. Apparently I just use
$ tail /etc/default/grub
GRUB_TERMINAL=console
case $(hostname) in *1) GRUB_TIMEOUT=45;; *) GRUB_TIMEOUT=11;; esac #jidanni
# Local Variables:
# compile-command: update-grub  grub-install /dev/hda #in emacs
# End:


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LILO not run after kernel install/update

2009-06-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Well, re-sending since nobody replied...

On 02.06.09 18:52, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 I noticed that in lenny, installing new linux image doesn't cause lilo to be
 run, therefore the system might get unbootable.

I don't see any info about lilo (or any boot loader) being called

 Is there any docs about this and is there any way to cause lilo run after
 kernel image install? 
 
 I have /etc/kernel-img.conf with do_bootloader = Yes for a long time, even
 tried loader = lilo (after reading the postinst) but is did not help.
 
 
 P.S. no, I won't use grub.

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Re: incomplete kernel install, etch-backports

2009-03-04 Thread s. keeling
Mark Copper mcop...@titaninterface.com:
 
  I'm trying to update an older system to Etch.  I'm following Release
  Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0.  For hardware reasons, I ran the command
 
  aptitude -t etch-backports install linux-image-2.6-686
 
  Output for the command
 
  aptitude show linux-image-2.6-686
 
  includes
 
  State: installed
 
  However, even after running lilo, /vmlinuz is still symlinked to the old
  kernel.
 
  Is this related to the message I received during the installation, that
  the boot loader needed to be configured to use an initrd?  And if so,
  where do I find out how to do this?

Is boot support for your system enabled in that kernel (root fs 
etc)?

Please describe your system (lvm/RAID, where's /, hardware, ...).


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incomplete kernel install, etch-backports

2009-03-03 Thread Mark Copper
Hi,

I'm trying to update an older system to Etch.  I'm following Release
Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0.  For hardware reasons, I ran the command

aptitude -t etch-backports install linux-image-2.6-686

Output for the command

aptitude show linux-image-2.6-686

includes

State: installed

However, even after running lilo, /vmlinuz is still symlinked to the old
kernel.

Is this related to the message I received during the installation, that
the boot loader needed to be configured to use an initrd?  And if so,
where do I find out how to do this?

Thank you.

Mark


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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-02 Thread Graham Smith

Bob McGowan wrote:

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:

why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?


Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.

Regards,

-Roberto



Not so.  My setup is:

$ uname -r
2.6.18-3-686
$ mount|grep boot
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
$ ls /boot/*2.6.18-3-686*
/boot/System.map-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
/boot/config-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686
$grep boot /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1 /bootext3defaults  0 2

My /boot/grub/menu.lst for the default boot:

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-3-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686 root=LABEL=/root ro
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686

===

NOTE that the path names for the kernel and initrd image DO NOT have a 
leading '/boot', this is because, for the filesystem on /dev/sda1, these 
files are 'connected' to the filesystem's 'root', which ONLY becomes 
/boot/... when the system is up and running, with filesystems from the 
fstab file mounted.


The above was set up automatically, during the install, by the Debian 
installer.  I explicitly selected to have '/boot' be a separate file 
system.  I suspect the OP's problem is, in fact, because of the 
differences between what the actual setup is and what the dpkg scripts 
expect.  I further conjecture that the original install was with /boot 
on the root filesystem, and that a later decision was made to change it, 
with the boot files on a separate filesystem.


To fix this, as root:

# cd /boot/boot
# mv * .. # no hidden files to worry about.
# cd ..
# rmdir boot
# edit /etc/fstab
  - add/modify line to mount the boot partition, see above example
# edit grub/menu.lst
  - to fix any kernel/initrd paths, removing /boot, see above example
# reboot
...
# apt-get update 

Of course, you should make backups of everything, just in case.  And, 
rather than just removing the extra 'boot' directory, you might also 
want to do 'ln -s . boot', so if there are any residual dependencies on 
/boot/boot/..., they will automatically resolve to the right place.


Bob


Thanks for the help. I've have indeed got /boot on it's own partition. I 
apt installed grub an age ago and it created /boot/boot itself - I 
thought it a little odd at the time. Perhaps the install scripts weren't 
very clever way back when it was installed.


The machine has been running Debian for a long time - it started out on 
late 2.2 kernels - and up until now grub has updated fine when a new 
kernel is installed even with the /boot/boot oddness. I'm wondering if 
something has changed with the way new kernels are installed.


I was actually thinking about retiring the machine any way as it's 
getting a bit long in the tooth. As it's a server and currently 
providing some vital network services I can't realistically afford large 
amounts of down time on it so I think I'll hold off making the changes 
you suggest. Many thanks though.


Graham


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Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Graham Smith
I tried to do an update this morning and ran into the problem below when 
it came to installing the kernel. I've looked in 
/boot/boot/grub/menu.lst and the new kernel 2.6.18-4 hasn't been added 
(I'm running 2.6.18-3 and that is the top kernel in the list).


Any ideas what's gone wrong?

dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486:
 linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however:
  Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-image-2.6.18-4-486
 linux-image-2.6-486
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-11) ...
Running depmod.
Finding valid ramdisk creators.
Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/boot/grub
Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/boot/grub/default file 
and setting the default boot entry to 0

No GRUB directory found under /
User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486:
 linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however:
  Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-image-2.6.18-4-486
 linux-image-2.6-486


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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:54:14AM +, Graham Smith wrote:
 I tried to do an update this morning and ran into the problem below when 
 it came to installing the kernel. I've looked in 
 /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst and the new kernel 2.6.18-4 hasn't been added 
 (I'm running 2.6.18-3 and that is the top kernel in the list).
 
 Any ideas what's gone wrong?
 
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486:
  linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however:
   Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  linux-image-2.6.18-4-486
  linux-image-2.6-486
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
 A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
 Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-11) ...
 Running depmod.
 Finding valid ramdisk creators.
 Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
 Running postinst hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.
 Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/boot/grub
 Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/boot/grub/default file 
 and setting the default boot entry to 0
 No GRUB directory found under /
 User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub] exited with value 1
 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-2.6-486:
  linux-image-2.6-486 depends on linux-image-2.6.18-4-486; however:
   Package linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 is not configured yet.
 dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6-486 (--configure):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  linux-image-2.6.18-4-486
  linux-image-2.6-486
why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?

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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
 
 why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
 what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
 
Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
   
 why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
 what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?

 
 Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.

   
I'd think most people with that setup have /boot/boot symlinked to /boot ?

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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:

  why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
  what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
 
  
  Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.
 

 I'd think most people with that setup have /boot/boot symlinked to /boot ?
 
You can't do that becasue the first thing grub looks for is the boot/
directory on the root filesystem.  If /boot is a separate partition,
it is the first thing that grub sees, and so it looks for boot/ under
it.  When we mount it on /boot, it ends up looking to us (but not to
grub) as /boot/boot.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:

why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?


Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.

Regards,

-Roberto



Not so.  My setup is:

$ uname -r
2.6.18-3-686
$ mount|grep boot
/dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
$ ls /boot/*2.6.18-3-686*
/boot/System.map-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
/boot/config-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686
$grep boot /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1 /bootext3defaults  0 2

My /boot/grub/menu.lst for the default boot:

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-3-686
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686 root=LABEL=/root ro
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686

===

NOTE that the path names for the kernel and initrd image DO NOT have a 
leading '/boot', this is because, for the filesystem on /dev/sda1, these 
files are 'connected' to the filesystem's 'root', which ONLY becomes 
/boot/... when the system is up and running, with filesystems from the 
fstab file mounted.


The above was set up automatically, during the install, by the Debian 
installer.  I explicitly selected to have '/boot' be a separate file 
system.  I suspect the OP's problem is, in fact, because of the 
differences between what the actual setup is and what the dpkg scripts 
expect.  I further conjecture that the original install was with /boot 
on the root filesystem, and that a later decision was made to change it, 
with the boot files on a separate filesystem.


To fix this, as root:

# cd /boot/boot
# mv * .. # no hidden files to worry about.
# cd ..
# rmdir boot
# edit /etc/fstab
  - add/modify line to mount the boot partition, see above example
# edit grub/menu.lst
  - to fix any kernel/initrd paths, removing /boot, see above example
# reboot
...
# apt-get update 

Of course, you should make backups of everything, just in case.  And, 
rather than just removing the extra 'boot' directory, you might also 
want to do 'ln -s . boot', so if there are any residual dependencies on 
/boot/boot/..., they will automatically resolve to the right place.


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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:08:25AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
 why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
 what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
 
 Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.
 
 Regards,
 
 -Roberto
 
 
 Not so.  My setup is:
 
 $ uname -r
 2.6.18-3-686
 $ mount|grep boot
 /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
 $ ls /boot/*2.6.18-3-686*
 /boot/System.map-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
 /boot/config-2.6.18-3-686  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686
 $grep boot /etc/fstab
 /dev/sda1 /bootext3defaults  0 2
 
 My /boot/grub/menu.lst for the default boot:
 
 title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.18-3-686
 root(hd0,0)
 kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.18-3-686 root=LABEL=/root ro
 initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.18-3-686
 
Hmmm.  My system started out on Woody a long time ago and I gave messed
with the partition scheme several times, so that might be why I have
mine like that.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: Kernel install problem

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 01:03:07PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:36:38PM +0100, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
  Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
   On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
 
   why do you use /boot/boot/grub/ and not the default /boot/grub/?
   what is in /boot/grub/menu.lst vs /boot/boot/grub/menu.lst ?
  
   
   Using /boot/boot/grub is necessary when /boot is its own filesystem.
  
 
  I'd think most people with that setup have /boot/boot symlinked to /boot ?
  
 You can't do that becasue the first thing grub looks for is the boot/
 directory on the root filesystem.  If /boot is a separate partition,
 it is the first thing that grub sees, and so it looks for boot/ under
 it.  When we mount it on /boot, it ends up looking to us (but not to
 grub) as /boot/boot.

I thought the /boot/boot thing came from installing grub
incorrectly. When I have been too smart for my own good and applied a
--root-directory switch to grub-install, its ended up in
/boot/boot. If I just let it work on its own it end sup in /boot. This
is with /boot on a seperate partition. At elast once, I've messed up
and had it in /boot/boot and just mv'ed it up one level and all works
well. 


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Re: Dell inspiron 4100... custom kernel install

2005-10-06 Thread James Gibbon
On 10/6/05, James Gibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/5/05, Felipe Törnvall N. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:








En español

haber si entiendo bien tu problema es en el momento 
de la instalacion de debian ??? lo haces con la imagen que viene por defecto 
???
Apesadumbrado, mi español es muy malo
Mi problema no es la instalación. Mi problema está con el Kernel.
Necesito un nuevo kernel para el proceso de la instalación

James




Apesadumbrado, Debo haber dicho que necesito un kernel en la ISO
debian. mi sistema es inestable demasiado trabajar encendido

Translated to english:

My kernel issues have nothing to do with a bad installation. I
need to create a custom kernel and stick it onto a Debian iso for
re-installation of the base system. The kernel has made my laptop too
unstable to recompile a kernel without crashing.

James


Re: Dell inspiron 4100... custom kernel install

2005-10-06 Thread James Gibbon
On 10/6/05, James Gibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/6/05, James Gibbon 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/5/05, Felipe Törnvall N. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:








En español

haber si entiendo bien tu problema es en el momento 
de la instalacion de debian ??? lo haces con la imagen que viene por defecto 
???
Apesadumbrado, mi español es muy malo
Mi problema no es la instalación. Mi problema está con el Kernel.
Necesito un nuevo kernel para el proceso de la instalación

James




Apesadumbrado, Debo haber dicho que necesito un kernel en la ISO
debian. mi sistema es inestable demasiado trabajar encendido

Translated to english:

My kernel issues have nothing to do with a bad installation. I
need to create a custom kernel and stick it onto a Debian iso for
re-installation of the base system. The kernel has made my laptop too
unstable to recompile a kernel without crashing.

James

Nevermind. I got it figured out on my own. Thanks anyways
James 



Dell inspiron 4100... custom kernel install

2005-10-05 Thread James Gibbon
I'm having a bit of trouble installing Debian on my inspiron
4100. I've identified the problem. The solution is in a
kernel rebuild. I can't get the kernel to rebuild because the system
freezes before the laptop can rebuild the kernel. It doesn't
usually stay alive for more than two or three minutes before it freezes
up.



how can I reinstall the whole system using a custom kernel? If
anyone could give me a link that would be great. I'm not even
sure of what to google, so that would be good too. I don't need
my hand held, just let me know what I'm looking for.

James Gibbon


Kernel, install manually or through apt?

2005-05-30 Thread Vegard|drageV
Hi everybody, 
I'm experimenting with the linux kernels, and have so far tried to
kernels available through apt-get, namely 2.4.27-1-386 (standard with
the installation in sarge) and 2.6.8-2-686 (running today).

Is there an easy to understand howto on manually installing a kernel
from kernel.org etc. for a newbie?

Are there more kernels available with apt, by adding lines to sources.list?

Besides that, if anyone have som hints or experinences to share with
me, I am all ears!

Thanks in advance, Vegard



Re: Kernel, install manually or through apt?

2005-05-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 11:26:00PM +0200, Vegard|drageV wrote:
 Hi everybody, 
 I'm experimenting with the linux kernels, and have so far tried to
 kernels available through apt-get, namely 2.4.27-1-386 (standard with
 the installation in sarge) and 2.6.8-2-686 (running today).
 
 Is there an easy to understand howto on manually installing a kernel
 from kernel.org etc. for a newbie?
 
 Are there more kernels available with apt, by adding lines to sources.list?
 
 Besides that, if anyone have som hints or experinences to share with
 me, I am all ears!
 
 Thanks in advance, Vegard
 
This will give you all the information you need about custom kernel
building for Debian:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

-Roberto

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kernel install on a Cobalt Raq4

2004-06-24 Thread Erwin van der Horst
Hi, 

Anyone succeeded in installing a Debian Woody distribution on a Cobalt Raq
(4)? 
Pleasy help me out. Perhaps this is a more generic question, how to install a 
Debian kernel on an empty machine (only with debootstrap initialized), which 
is temporarly booted from the net with NFS. 

I followed the fine instructions on http://cobalt.iceblink.org/debian/debian- 
cobalt-howto.txt and succeeded for most steps. When I got at step 9, to 
download a debian kernel, me as newbie, don't know where start from here. 

I tried to downloaded the kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 package and all its 
dependencies from the debian site and installed them on the system (dpkg). 

The installation of some packages gave some errors which i did not know how 
to resolve. I was chrooted to the new and mounted filesystem root. 

The dpkg with sysvinit gave some timeout errors: 
 init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl 

And dpkg with the kernel image gave: 
 Failed to create initrd image. 
  dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 (--install): 
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29 
  Errors were encountered while processing: 
   kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 

I bzip2'ed the vmlinuz-2.4.18-k6 to /boot/vmlinux.bz2 (according the install 
instructions) but the bootup failed with various error messages. 

Anyone can help me with this? 

Following are the bootup messages: 
Sun Cobalt - Smaller, Bluer, Better, and Free 
  Firmware version 2.10.3-ext3 

Current date: Jun 24 14:41:22 UTC 2004 
ROM build info: Thu Mar 11 08:51:36 MST 2004 . 
System serial number: invalid csum! 
System type: 3000 series system, Version 1 board 
Silicon serial number: 7807d7f59c01 
Monitor: 153536 bytes 
Memory: 256 MB 
CPU: 1 processor(s) detected 
 CPU 0: AuthenticAMD 448MHz (4.5 x 100MHz host bus) [BSP] 
Initializing flash: done 
 Flash Bank 0: AMD AM29F080B 1024KB (01:d5) 
 Flash Bank 1: not installed. 
Mounting ROM fs: done 
Initializing PCI: done 
Initializing ethernet: 2 controller(s) found 
Initializing IDE: found ALI M5229 at 00:78 
 scanning ide0: master 
 scanning ide1: master 
IDE: stabilizing spinup: 100% 
Checking Memory: done 

Press spacebar to enter ROM mode 
Booting default method - From disk 

First stage kernel (Linux): Decompressing - done 
ERROR: cannot relocate with filesize 0 
Second stage kernel: Decompressing -Error bunzip2ing kernel. Trying gunzip. 
- done 
Linux version 2.2.16C28_III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 
1999 
0314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Jul 30 22:07:58 PDT 2001 
Ignoring bogus EBDA pointer 3FF000 
Detected 448220 kHz processor. 
Pending 0x00 
Calibrating delay loop... 894.57 BogoMIPS 
Memory: 257572k/262144k available (1244k kernel code, 416k reserved, 2848k 
data, 
64k init) 
Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k) 
Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k) 
Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k) 
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized 
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K 
CPU: L2 Cache: 128K 
CPU: AMD AMD-K6(tm)-III Processor stepping 04 
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting. 
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. 
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX 
PCI: Using configuration type 1 
PCI: Probing PCI hardware 
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. 
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP 
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536) 
Initializing RT netlink socket 
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
Cobalt watchdog v1.4 enabled 
Cobalt I2C bus initialized 
Cobalt temperature sensor v1.3 enabled 
Serial driver version 4.27 with4keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not 
present? 
keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present? 
no serial options enabled 
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A 
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured 
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09 
lcd: Cobalt LCD Driver v3.12 
serialnumber: Version 1.9 initialized. Serial number=7807d7f59c01. 
Copyright (c)1994-2000 Axent Technologies, Inc. 
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30 
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx 
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 78 
ALI15X3: chipset revision 193 
ALI15X3: 100% native mode on irq 14 
   ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfdd0-0xfdd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA 
   ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfdd8-0xfddf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA 
hda: ST320410A, ATA DISK drive 
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx 
hdc: ST320410A, ATA DISK drive 
ide0 at 0xfdf8-0xfdff,0xfdf6 on irq 14 
ide1 at 0xfde8-0xfdef,0xfde6 on irq 15 
hda: ST320410A, 19092MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38792/16/63, UDMA(33) 
hdc: ST320410A, 19092MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38792/16/63, UDMA(33) 
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12 
translucent personality 

kernel install on a Cobalt Raq4

2004-06-24 Thread Erwin van der Horst
Hi,

Anyone succeeded in installing a Debian Woody distribution on a Cobalt Raq(4)?
Pleasy help me out. Perhaps this is a more generic question, how to install a 
Debian kernel on an empty machine (only with debootstrap initialized), which 
is temporarly booted from the net with NFS.

I followed the fine instructions on http://cobalt.iceblink.org/debian/debian-
cobalt-howto.txt and succeeded for most steps. When I got at step 9, to 
download a debian kernel, me as newbie, don't know where start from here.

I tried to downloaded the kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 package and all its 
dependencies from the debian site and installed them on the system (dpkg). 

The installation of some packages gave some errors which i did not know how 
to resolve. I was chrooted to the new and mounted filesystem root. 

The dpkg with sysvinit gave some timeout errors:
  init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl 

And dpkg with the kernel image gave:
  Failed to create initrd image.
   dpkg: error processing kernel-image-2.4.18-k6 (--install):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
   Errors were encountered while processing:
kernel-image-2.4.18-k6

I bzip2'ed the vmlinuz-2.4.18-k6 to /boot/vmlinux.bz2 (according the install 
instructions) but the bootup failed with various error messages.

Anyone can help me with this?

Following are the bootup messages:
 Sun Cobalt - Smaller, Bluer, Better, and Free
   Firmware version 2.10.3-ext3

Current date: Jun 24 14:41:22 UTC 2004
ROM build info: Thu Mar 11 08:51:36 MST 2004 .
System serial number: invalid csum!
System type: 3000 series system, Version 1 board
Silicon serial number: 7807d7f59c01
Monitor: 153536 bytes
Memory: 256 MB
CPU: 1 processor(s) detected
  CPU 0: AuthenticAMD 448MHz (4.5 x 100MHz host bus) [BSP]
Initializing flash: done
  Flash Bank 0: AMD AM29F080B 1024KB (01:d5)
  Flash Bank 1: not installed.
Mounting ROM fs: done
Initializing PCI: done
Initializing ethernet: 2 controller(s) found
Initializing IDE: found ALI M5229 at 00:78
  scanning ide0: master
  scanning ide1: master
IDE: stabilizing spinup: 100%
Checking Memory: done

Press spacebar to enter ROM mode
Booting default method - From disk

First stage kernel (Linux): Decompressing - done
ERROR: cannot relocate with filesize 0
Second stage kernel: Decompressing -Error bunzip2ing kernel. Trying gunzip.
- done
Linux version 2.2.16C28_III ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 
1999
0314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Mon Jul 30 22:07:58 PDT 2001
Ignoring bogus EBDA pointer 3FF000
Detected 448220 kHz processor.
Pending 0x00
Calibrating delay loop... 894.57 BogoMIPS
Memory: 257572k/262144k available (1244k kernel code, 416k reserved, 2848k 
data,
 64k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k)
Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k)
VFS: Diskquotas version dquot_6.4.0 initialized
CPU: L1 I Cache: 32K  L1 D Cache: 32K
CPU: L2 Cache: 128K
CPU: AMD AMD-K6(tm)-III Processor stepping 04
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536)
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Cobalt watchdog v1.4 enabled
Cobalt I2C bus initialized
Cobalt temperature sensor v1.3 enabled
Serial driver version 4.27 with4keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
keyboard: Timeout - AT keyboard not present?
 no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured
Real Time Clock Driver v1.09
lcd: Cobalt LCD Driver v3.12
serialnumber: Version 1.9 initialized. Serial number=7807d7f59c01.
Copyright (c)1994-2000 Axent Technologies, Inc.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ALI15X3: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 78
ALI15X3: chipset revision 193
ALI15X3: 100% native mode on irq 14
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfdd0-0xfdd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xfdd8-0xfddf, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: ST320410A, ATA DISK drive
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
hdc: ST320410A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0xfdf8-0xfdff,0xfdf6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0xfde8-0xfdef,0xfde6 on irq 15
hda: ST320410A, 19092MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38792/16/63, UDMA(33)
hdc: ST320410A, 19092MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=38792/16/63, UDMA(33)
md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MAX_REAL=12
translucent personality registered
linear personality registered
raid0 personality registered
raid1 

Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-13 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 09:53:38PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:26:33PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 | on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:08:28PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 |  What version of the dhcp-client package do you have installed?
 | 
 | 2.0pl5-11

 That's the one from woody.  If you don't mind running a newer
 system, 

not at all -- not only do i regularly grab more packages than i plan
to from unstable, but i'm upgrading to the 2.6 stock kernel from
debian -- certainly gonna run into some dependency issues there, i
suppose.

 then I'd try the version from sarge 

that did it.  yay!

is it a bug in the kernel package that it doesn't tell me to upgrade
to the newer dhcp-client package, too?

 or the 'dhcp3-client' package.  I don't remember exactly, but I
 think I upgraded to dhcp3-client before I upgraded to kernel 2.6.
 It is conceivable that dhclient is somewhat tied to the kernel
 version.

then it should be upgraded when i use apt/aptitude to grab a new
kernel version, yes?

thanks, dman.  just confirming previous knowledge that you rock.

/nori

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networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:42:06PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:41:54PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 | on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:26PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 |  On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 [...] 
 |  | how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?
 |  
 |  Try aptitude.  Trace through the Depends/Conflicts and figure out
 |  what's wrong.  Something must be conflicting somewhere.  (maybe you
 |  just need to upgrade modutils while you install module-init-tools?)
 | 
 | after a bit of poking in aptitude, which was very noninformative,
 
 It may take a little getting used to, but aptitude combines the data
 available from 'apt-cache show' and 'apt-cache policy' in a way that
 is navigable.  What I would have done in your situation is gone to the
 'modutils' package.  Press enter to view the package's details.  Some
 line in that view would most likely have been red indicating broken or
 magenta indicating will-be-removed.  Scrolling through the display you
 can see what packages and versions are in the depends and conflicts
 tags for that package as well as the list of what packages (and
 versions) depend on or conflict with the current package.  In
 hindsight, I now know that it would have shown that module-init-tools
 conflicts with modutils = 2.4.21-1 and your modutils fit that
 criteria (hence apt-get wanted to remove it to solve the conflict).

cool.  i feel like i did this and didn't find anything useful, but
maybe i just didn't spend long enough poking.

 | i tried your suggestion of upgrading modutils (from 2.4.15-1 to
 | 2.4.26-1) -- beautiful.  then the 2.6.4 kernel image goes on without
 | trying to remove everything and its mother.
 
 Lucky guess.  :-).  At least it worked for you.

yeah, thanks :)

 | of course, i've totally failed to show the slickness of apt to my
 | coworker, because as soon as i booted up with 2.6.4, my mouse (neither
 | USB nor PS2) didn't work, and i wasn't online.  (right now, i've
 | reverted to 2.4 to type this :-P).  surely the 2.6 kernel comes with
 | USB support compiled in?  am i just going to have to suck it up and
 | roll my own kernel?
 
 I'm using the stock 2.6 kernel on 5 machines.
 
 There are some differences from 2.4, though, mainly in the module and
 device driver organization.  Some key differences, and probably the
 ones you are running into, :
 2.4 2.6
 --- ---
 usb-uhciuhci-hcd
 usb-ohciohci-hcd
 usb-ehciehci-hcd
 psmouse (the PS/2 mouse driver is in a module now)

okay, excellent.  thanks for pointong this out -- now i have a
functional mouse under 2.6.

 I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
 dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured
 to be loaded.

the network error i get when i try to reconfigure my network
interfaces is below:

Reconfiguring network interfaces: cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such
file or directory
Unrecognized kernel version
done.

i can tell that _something's_ not recognizing my kernel version, but
what is it?  i probably just need to grab a newer package of
something, but what?

thanks again!

/nori

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Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
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on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:06PM -0400, J F insinuated:
 I don't have a specific answer to your problem,
 but using aptitude seems to ease upgrade problems.
 Also, having testing, unstable, and stable all in
 /etc/apt/sources.list seems to get aptitude
 to converge on a working solution.

yeah, i do have all of them in there.  i'm relatively new to aptitude,
and have never been a convert, specifically because every time i try
to install any one thing with it, it wants to upgrade the rest of my
system and install at least 50 new packages.  i probably don't have it
synched with something or other -- probably related to the error i see
whenever i start it up:

Apt errors
W: Can't open Aptitude extended status file

but these problems with aptitude make me shy away from it.  am i using
it wrong, or something?

/nori

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Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:19:06PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:42:06PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
[...] 
|  I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
|  dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured
|  to be loaded.
| 
| the network error i get when i try to reconfigure my network
| interfaces is below:
| 
| Reconfiguring network interfaces:

| cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory

This message results from trying to stop dhclient while it isn't
running.  No harm done.

| Unrecognized kernel version

This I've never seen before.

| done.
| 
| i can tell that _something's_ not recognizing my kernel version, but
| what is it?  i probably just need to grab a newer package of
| something, but what?

What is your network card?
What driver did you use with the 2.4 kernel?
What does 'ifconfig -a' report?  (is eth0 listed there?)
What version of the dhcp-client package do you have installed?

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using apt/aptitude (was: Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel])

2004-04-12 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:11:24PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| [back on-list]
| 
| on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:06PM -0400, J F insinuated:
|  I don't have a specific answer to your problem,
|  but using aptitude seems to ease upgrade problems.
|  Also, having testing, unstable, and stable all in
|  /etc/apt/sources.list seems to get aptitude
|  to converge on a working solution.
| 
| yeah, i do have all of them in there.  i'm relatively new to aptitude,
| and have never been a convert, specifically because every time i try
| to install any one thing with it, it wants to upgrade the rest of my
| system and install at least 50 new packages.

Big picture :
apt normally prefers the version of a package with the biggest number
aptitude in woody defaults to 'Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade true'

As a result, when you have woody installed, have sarge (and/or sid) in
apt's sources list, and you run aptitude, then aptitude wants to
upgrade your system to sarge (and/or sid).

I assume, from your comments, that you don't want that.  There are
several factors at play here and you can choose what specific
semantics you want.  I'll explain by telling about my system.

I generally follow sarge, but not infrequently install packages from
sid.  I like to see what version is in what release with 'apt-cache
policy'.  Sometimes I don't want to upgrade all upgradeable packages
when I run aptitude in gui mode.  As a result I have the following
setup :
1)  woody, sarge, sid all listed in apt's source list
2)  sarge preferred, followed by the installed version, followed
by woody, and never prefer sid specified in /etc/apt/prefereces.
3)  aptitude version from sarge, with 'Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade false'
(default in that version)

I recommend using the aptitude in sarge over the one in woody because
it works correctly (usefully/conveniently) with Auto-Upgrade set to
false.  (the woody version changes the 'auto' flag to 'manual' when
choosing to upgrade a package unless Auto-Upgrade chose to upgrade it)

Also take a look at documentation regarding apt's preferences files.

| i probably don't have it
| synched with something or other -- probably related to the error i see
| whenever i start it up:
| 
| Apt errors
| W: Can't open Aptitude extended status file

I've never seen this message (that I recall).  My first guess, though,
is that you ran aptitude as a non-root user and as a result didn't
have permission to create /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates.

HTH,
-D

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Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:08:28PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:19:06PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 | on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:42:06PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 [...] 
 |  I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
 |  dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured
 |  to be loaded.
 | 
 | the network error i get when i try to reconfigure my network
 | interfaces is below:
 | 
 | Reconfiguring network interfaces:
 
 | cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory
 
 This message results from trying to stop dhclient while it isn't
 running.  No harm done.

yeah, looked pretty innocuous ...

 | Unrecognized kernel version
 
 This I've never seen before.

:-P

 | done.
 | 
 | i can tell that _something's_ not recognizing my kernel version, but
 | what is it?  i probably just need to grab a newer package of
 | something, but what?
 
 What is your network card?

02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX [Fast
Etherlink] (rev 78)

 What driver did you use with the 2.4 kernel?

i put in the 3c59x module for it.  the same one exists with the 2.6
kernel ... is this what you mean?  never been good with hardware
configuration.

 What does 'ifconfig -a' report?  (is eth0 listed there?)

with the 2.4 kernel, yes (clearly -- i'm writing from that :).
with the 2.6, also yes, but not configured:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:06:5B:5F:A0:30  
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:18 Base address:0xdc80 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:840 (840.0 b)  TX bytes:840 (840.0 b)

 What version of the dhcp-client package do you have installed?

2.0pl5-11

a friend of mine heard i was installing the 2.6 kernel, and he said
bad idea.  i asked why, and he mentioned bad driver support -- maybe
he means my ethernet card :-P

thanks again!

/nori

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Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread J F

Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 02:11:24PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 | on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 02:02:06PM -0400, J F insinuated:
 |  I don't have a specific answer to your problem,
 |  but using aptitude seems to ease upgrade problems.
 |  Also, having testing, unstable, and stable all in
 |  /etc/apt/sources.list seems to get aptitude
 |  to converge on a working solution.
 | 
 | yeah, i do have all of them in there.  i'm relatively new to aptitude,
 | and have never been a convert, specifically because every time i try
 | to install any one thing with it, it wants to upgrade the rest of my
 | system and install at least 50 new packages.
 
 Big picture :
 apt normally prefers the version of a package with the biggest number
 aptitude in woody defaults to 'Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade true'
 
 As a result, when you have woody installed, have sarge (and/or sid) in
 apt's sources list, and you run aptitude, then aptitude wants to
 upgrade your system to sarge (and/or sid).
 
 I assume, from your comments, that you don't want that.  There are
 several factors at play here and you can choose what specific
 semantics you want.  I'll explain by telling about my system.
 
 I generally follow sarge, but not infrequently install packages from
 sid.  I like to see what version is in what release with 'apt-cache
 policy'.  Sometimes I don't want to upgrade all upgradeable packages
 when I run aptitude in gui mode.  As a result I have the following
 setup :
 1)  woody, sarge, sid all listed in apt's source list
 2)  sarge preferred, followed by the installed version, followed
 by woody, and never prefer sid specified in /etc/apt/prefereces.
 3)  aptitude version from sarge, with 'Aptitude::Auto-Upgrade false'
 (default in that version)
 
 I recommend using the aptitude in sarge over the one in woody because
 it works correctly (usefully/conveniently) with Auto-Upgrade set to
 false.  (the woody version changes the 'auto' flag to 'manual' when
 choosing to upgrade a package unless Auto-Upgrade chose to upgrade it)
 
 Also take a look at documentation regarding apt's preferences files.
 
 | i probably don't have it
 | synched with something or other -- probably related to the error i see
 | whenever i start it up:
 | 
 | Apt errors
 | W: Can't open Aptitude extended status file
 
 I've never seen this message (that I recall).  My first guess, though,
 is that you ran aptitude as a non-root user and as a result didn't
 have permission to create /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates.
 
 HTH,
 -D

Also, you can press F10 to bring up the menu
and press right cursor move (-) twice to highlight
OPtions and then down cursor move key to highlight
Miscellaneous  and press spacebar on 
to remove [X] before phrase:
Automatically upgrade install Packages .
You can then search for the broken package by
typing:
/konqueror
which would find the konqueror package.
Type carriage return to see the things that
it depends on or conflicts with.
Type ? for help.
Type + to upgrade or '= to hold
at the current version of a package.


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Re: networking problem with 2.6.4 kernel [was: Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel]

2004-04-12 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:26:33PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| on Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:08:28PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
|  On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:19:06PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
|  | on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:42:06PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
|  [...] 
|  |  I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
|  |  dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured
|  |  to be loaded.
|  | 
|  | the network error i get when i try to reconfigure my network
|  | interfaces is below:
|  | 
|  | Reconfiguring network interfaces:
|  
|  | cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory
|  
|  This message results from trying to stop dhclient while it isn't
|  running.  No harm done.
| 
| yeah, looked pretty innocuous ...
| 
|  | Unrecognized kernel version
|  
|  This I've never seen before.
| 
| :-P
| 
|  | done.
|  | 
|  | i can tell that _something's_ not recognizing my kernel version, but
|  | what is it?  i probably just need to grab a newer package of
|  | something, but what?
|  
|  What is your network card?
| 
| 02:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX [Fast
| Etherlink] (rev 78)

Pretty normal.

|  What driver did you use with the 2.4 kernel?
| 
| i put in the 3c59x module for it.  the same one exists with the 2.6
| kernel ... is this what you mean?  never been good with hardware
| configuration.

Yes, that's what I mean.

|  What does 'ifconfig -a' report?  (is eth0 listed there?)
| 
| with the 2.4 kernel, yes (clearly -- i'm writing from that :).
| with the 2.6, also yes, but not configured:
| 
| eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:06:5B:5F:A0:30  
|   BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
|   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
|   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
|   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
|   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
|   Interrupt:18 Base address:0xdc80 

This looks good.


I thought that perhaps you had some odd NIC with a vendor-supplied
binary-only driver.  However, a basic 3Com should be fine.  The above
from 'ifconfig -a' shows that the kernel does recognize the hardware.

|  What version of the dhcp-client package do you have installed?
| 
| 2.0pl5-11

That's the one from woody.  If you don't mind running a newer system,
then I'd try the version from sarge or the 'dhcp3-client' package.  I
don't remember exactly, but I think I upgraded to dhcp3-client before
I upgraded to kernel 2.6.  It is conceivable that dhclient is somewhat
tied to the kernel version.

One way to try and isolate the error message would be to run dhclient
directly (not though the ifup wrapper).  Another possibility is to run
ifup via strace: 'strace -f ifup eth0'.  Find that error message in
the output, then scroll back and see what generated it and what that
program did before printing that message.  (note that some familiarity
with C and the POSIX APIs is necessary to really make sense of
strace's output)

| a friend of mine heard i was installing the 2.6 kernel, and he said
| bad idea.  i asked why, and he mentioned bad driver support -- maybe
| he means my ethernet card :-P

I would not be surprised if the vendor-supplied binary-only driver
support lags a bit.  Kernel 2.6 reorganized the module system (hence
the modutils - module-init-tools change).  The drivers in linus'
kernel tree changed accordingly, I expect, but commercial vendors may
not have caught up yet.

Let's see ... yes, one of the machines I adminster has a 3c905B NIC
(3c59x module) and it has had no problem with kernel 2.6 and
dhcp3-client.  Another machine uses the 3c509 module, and it too has
worked fine.

-D

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-10 Thread Pedro M. (Morphix User)
Nori Heikkinen escribió:

on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:26PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 

On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
| it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
| to remove packages i don't want it to:
| 

About this topic, I suggest to the help-web-sites, create a form(ulary) 
where the user can specify :

- the version (or simply, the last).
- the computer processor
and recieve the name of the kernel-image to load.

This would be helpfull for newbies.

Regards.

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2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
to remove packages i don't want it to:

homeruns:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  module-init-tools
Suggested packages:
  kernel-doc-2.6.4 kernel-source-2.6.4
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 modutils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 module-init-tools
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 154 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/15.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 19.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

why does it want to remove modutils and my CURRENT kernel image?  the
installer even tells me this is bad (so i haven't done it):

Removing kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 ...

  You are running a kernel (version 2.4.18-1-686) and attempting to remove
  the same version. This is a potentially disastrous action. Not only
  will /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 be removed, making it impossible to boot
  it, (you will have to take action to change your boot loader to boot
  a new kernel), it will also remove all modules under the directory 
  /lib/modules/2.4.18-1-686. Just having a copy of the kernel image is not
  enough, you will have to replace the modules too.

I repeat, this is very dangerous. If at all in doubt, answer
no. If you know exactly what you are doing, and are prepared to
hose your system, then answer Yes.
Remove the running kernel image (not recommended) [No]? n

how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?

sorry if this has been addressed already -- a quick poke through the
list archives hasn't turned up anything useful.

tia,

/nori

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread stderr
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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
 it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
 to remove packages i don't want it to:

do with the --no-remove option, man apt-get for
more options.


 homeruns:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following extra packages will be installed:
   module-init-tools

this is needed by the 2.6.x kernels, else you cant
load/unload modules with this kernel.

 Suggested packages:
   kernel-doc-2.6.4 kernel-source-2.6.4
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 modutils
 snip

modutils are ok to remove, it would be replaced by
module-init-tools.

removal of current kernel: i suggest doing with the
# dpkg -i pathtokernelimage/kernel_image2.6.x.deb
instead of apt-get.

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 01:16:34AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] insinuated:
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 On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
  after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
  it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
  to remove packages i don't want it to:
 
 do with the --no-remove option, man apt-get for
 more options.

hm, that seems to say it will just quit if anything is to be removed:

   --no-remove
  If any packages are to be removed  apt-get  immedi-
  ately   aborts  without  prompting.   Configuration
  Item: APT::Get::Remove

I'd like it not to remove packages -- not just quit if it thinks it
should.

  homeruns:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686
  Reading Package Lists... Done
  Building Dependency Tree... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
module-init-tools
 
 this is needed by the 2.6.x kernels, else you cant
 load/unload modules with this kernel.

i'm fine with installing new things -- just removing old important
ones is what i'm concerned about.

  Suggested packages:
kernel-doc-2.6.4 kernel-source-2.6.4
  The following packages will be REMOVED:
kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 modutils
  snip
 
 modutils are ok to remove, it would be replaced by
 module-init-tools.

cool; thanks.

 removal of current kernel: i suggest doing with the
 # dpkg -i pathtokernelimage/kernel_image2.6.x.deb
 instead of apt-get.

well, that's an option, i guess, but i'd like to do this using apt if
i can, instead of having to grab the source and copy over my previous
kernel config, and then using dpkg -- which is what you're suggesting,
yes?  i'm trying to show off to a coworker how slick apt can be ;)

thanks again,

/nori

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
| it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
| to remove packages i don't want it to:
| 
| homeruns:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 
| Reading Package Lists... Done
| Building Dependency Tree... Done
| The following extra packages will be installed:
|   module-init-tools
| Suggested packages:
|   kernel-doc-2.6.4 kernel-source-2.6.4
| The following packages will be REMOVED:
|   kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 modutils
| The following NEW packages will be installed:
|   kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 module-init-tools
| 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 154 not upgraded.
| Need to get 0B/15.4MB of archives.
| After unpacking 19.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
| Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
| 
| why does it want to remove modutils and my CURRENT kernel image?

I have no idea.  I used to have 2.4 and 2.6 kernels installed
side-by-side with no problem.  I still have module-init-tools and
modutils installed because lvm-common depends on it, although I no
longer use modutils.

| the installer even tells me this is bad (so i haven't done it):

It is not a good idea to remove the currently running kernel and the
userspace module support tools.

| how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?

Try aptitude.  Trace through the Depends/Conflicts and figure out
what's wrong.  Something must be conflicting somewhere.  (maybe you
just need to upgrade modutils while you install module-init-tools?)

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:26PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
 On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 | after hearing all the brouhaha about the 2.6 kernel, i thought i'd try
 | it out.  but a simple `apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686` wants
 | to remove packages i don't want it to:
 | 
 | homeruns:~# apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686   
   
 | Reading Package Lists... Done
 | Building Dependency Tree... Done
 | The following extra packages will be installed:
 |   module-init-tools
 | Suggested packages:
 |   kernel-doc-2.6.4 kernel-source-2.6.4
 | The following packages will be REMOVED:
 |   kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 modutils
 | The following NEW packages will be installed:
 |   kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686 module-init-tools
 | 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 154 not upgraded.
 | Need to get 0B/15.4MB of archives.
 | After unpacking 19.8MB of additional disk space will be used.
 | Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
 | 
 | why does it want to remove modutils and my CURRENT kernel image?
 
 I have no idea.  I used to have 2.4 and 2.6 kernels installed
 side-by-side with no problem.  I still have module-init-tools and
 modutils installed because lvm-common depends on it, although I no
 longer use modutils.
 
 | the installer even tells me this is bad (so i haven't done it):
 
 It is not a good idea to remove the currently running kernel and the
 userspace module support tools.

yeah, i'd prefer not to :-P

 | how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?
 
 Try aptitude.  Trace through the Depends/Conflicts and figure out
 what's wrong.  Something must be conflicting somewhere.  (maybe you
 just need to upgrade modutils while you install module-init-tools?)

after a bit of poking in aptitude, which was very noninformative, i
tried your suggestion of upgrading modutils (from 2.4.15-1 to
2.4.26-1) -- beautiful.  then the 2.6.4 kernel image goes on without
trying to remove everything and its mother.

of course, i've totally failed to show the slickness of apt to my
coworker, because as soon as i booted up with 2.6.4, my mouse (neither
USB nor PS2) didn't work, and i wasn't online.  (right now, i've
reverted to 2.4 to type this :-P).  surely the 2.6 kernel comes with
USB support compiled in?  am i just going to have to suck it up and
roll my own kernel?

thanks again,

/nori

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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:41:54PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
| on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 01:47:26PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson insinuated:
|  On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 12:32:10PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
[...] 
|  | how, then, should i go about installing the kernel image?
|  
|  Try aptitude.  Trace through the Depends/Conflicts and figure out
|  what's wrong.  Something must be conflicting somewhere.  (maybe you
|  just need to upgrade modutils while you install module-init-tools?)
| 
| after a bit of poking in aptitude, which was very noninformative,

It may take a little getting used to, but aptitude combines the data
available from 'apt-cache show' and 'apt-cache policy' in a way that
is navigable.  What I would have done in your situation is gone to the
'modutils' package.  Press enter to view the package's details.  Some
line in that view would most likely have been red indicating broken or
magenta indicating will-be-removed.  Scrolling through the display you
can see what packages and versions are in the depends and conflicts
tags for that package as well as the list of what packages (and
versions) depend on or conflict with the current package.  In
hindsight, I now know that it would have shown that module-init-tools
conflicts with modutils = 2.4.21-1 and your modutils fit that
criteria (hence apt-get wanted to remove it to solve the conflict).

| i tried your suggestion of upgrading modutils (from 2.4.15-1 to
| 2.4.26-1) -- beautiful.  then the 2.6.4 kernel image goes on without
| trying to remove everything and its mother.

Lucky guess.  :-).  At least it worked for you.

| of course, i've totally failed to show the slickness of apt to my
| coworker, because as soon as i booted up with 2.6.4, my mouse (neither
| USB nor PS2) didn't work, and i wasn't online.  (right now, i've
| reverted to 2.4 to type this :-P).  surely the 2.6 kernel comes with
| USB support compiled in?  am i just going to have to suck it up and
| roll my own kernel?

I'm using the stock 2.6 kernel on 5 machines.

There are some differences from 2.4, though, mainly in the module and
device driver organization.  Some key differences, and probably the
ones you are running into, :
2.4 2.6
--- ---
usb-uhciuhci-hcd
usb-ohciohci-hcd
usb-ehciehci-hcd
psmouse (the PS/2 mouse driver is in a module now)

I haven't noticed any changes in networking, but that might be
dependent on the hardware and what modules I already had configured to
be loaded.

HTH,
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Re: 2.6.4 kernel install wants to remove current kernel

2004-04-09 Thread John Schmidt
On Friday 09 April 2004 12:41 pm, Nori Heikkinen wrote:

 of course, i've totally failed to show the slickness of apt to my
 coworker, because as soon as i booted up with 2.6.4, my mouse (neither
 USB nor PS2) didn't work, and i wasn't online.  (right now, i've
 reverted to 2.4 to type this :-P).  surely the 2.6 kernel comes with
 USB support compiled in?  am i just going to have to suck it up and
 roll my own kernel?

 thanks again,

 /nori

Make sure you have the modules mousedev and psmouse loaded.  I believe I had 
to use modconf to select psmouse from kernel/drivers/input/mouse whereas 
mousedev was already loaded for me using discover.  Once psmouse was loaded 
then my mouse was active.

John


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Re: 2.6 kernel install, lilo problems in sarge (?)

2004-04-05 Thread Andrés Roldán
The real problem is that your lilo.conf file makes reference
to an /initrd.img file which may not exist. The warning can
be skipped and means that your kernel was compiled with DEVFS_FS
support and you are not using it.

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2.6 kernel install, lilo problems in sarge (?)

2004-04-04 Thread Michael Bonert
I'm having some probs with lilo:


# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb# install of a custom kernel
===
{SNIP}
You already have a LILO configuration in /etc/lilo.conf
Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? [Yes] yes
Testing lilo.conf ...
An error occurred while running lilo in test mode, a log is
available in /var/log/lilo_log.15223. Please edit /etc/lilo.conf
manually and re-run lilo, or make other arrangements to boot
your machine.
 Please hit return to continue

cobalamin:/usr/local/src#
==

cobalamin:/var/log# more lilo_log.15223
Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda'
Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory
cobalamin:/var/log#
===

After searching the web I found this:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2003-07/0122.html

and this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/msg06152.html

Both touch on the subject... neither really clarify it for me.

I'm running testing (sarge) on a Toshiba A20... and trying to install
a build of the 2.6.4 kernel.

-
I mucked around with the 'devfs' option in menuconfig--compiled with 
compiled without.

I don't understand why it doesn't work.  I've compiled and installed
a couple of 2.6 series kernels on a Debian 'Sid' system in the past
without any problems.

QUESTIONS:
Does lilo (in the testing distribution) require (the obsolete) devfs?
Do I need to #apt-get install devfsd ???


Any help would be much appreciated...
Michael


==
OUTLINE OF MY KERNEL COMPILE / INSTALLATION

# apt-get install libstdc++5-3.3-dev
# apt-get install libncurses5-dev

# apt-get install kernel-package fakeroot
# apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.4

# apt-get install module-init-tools # THIS SHOULD GET RID OF THOSE
'/depmod' MESSAGES

# apt-get install gcc
# apt-get install g++-2.95

# cd /usr/src
# bzip2 -d kernel-source-2.6.4.tar.bz2


$ cd /usr/local/src
# su
# chmod o=rwx .
$ tar xf /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.4.tar

ZIP UP THE PACKAGE AGAIN (now that we've got a copy in /usr/local/src)
# cd /usr/src
# bzip2 kernel-source-2.6.4.tar

$ cd /usr/local/src/kernel-source-2.6.4
$ vi Makefile
CHANGED
--- 
HOSTCC  = gcc
HOSTCXX = g++

SNIP

CC  = $(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc
--- 

TO
--- 
HOSTCC  = gcc-2.95
HOSTCXX = g++-2.95

SNIP

CC  = $(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc-2.95
--- 

(Linus says to use gcc 2.95.3)

$ make menuconfig # edit some stuff here
$ make-kpkg clean
$ script -a cobalamin.1.0-compile-log.txt
$ fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=cobalamin.1.0 kernel_image

$ cd /usr/local/src
$ su
# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb # installing 2.6.4


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Re: 2.6 kernel install, lilo problems in sarge (?)

2004-04-04 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Michael Bonert wrote:
I'm having some probs with lilo:

# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.6.4_cobalamin.1.0_i386.deb# install of a custom kernel
===
{SNIP}
You already have a LILO configuration in /etc/lilo.conf
Install a boot block using the existing /etc/lilo.conf? [Yes] yes
Testing lilo.conf ...
An error occurred while running lilo in test mode, a log is
available in /var/log/lilo_log.15223. Please edit /etc/lilo.conf
manually and re-run lilo, or make other arrangements to boot
your machine.
 Please hit return to continue
cobalamin:/usr/local/src#
==
cobalamin:/var/log# more lilo_log.15223
Warning: '/proc/partitions' does not match '/dev' directory structure.
Name change: '/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc' - '/dev/hda'
Fatal: open /initrd.img: No such file or directory
cobalamin:/var/log#
===
Last time I saw this, it was because the running kernel was
configured with DEVFS and the devfsd package was not installed.
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How to remove a kernel install package that has failed?

2004-02-09 Thread Jeff Self
I tried installing kernel-source-2.6.0. I used Debian's make-kpkg and
created a deb file. But when I ran dpkg -i
kernel-image-2.6.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb, I got a segmentation fault.
Now I can't upgrade my system because whenever I run apt-get upgrade, I
get an error saying The package kernel-image-2.6.0 needs to be
reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.

I have run apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean. I've even looked in
/var/lib/dpkg/info to try and remove anything related to
kernel-image-2.6.0 but couldn't find anything. What can I do to remove
this package so I can update my system?

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Re: How to remove a kernel install package that has failed?

2004-02-09 Thread Joerg Johannes
Am Mo, den 09.02.2004 schrieb Jeff Self um 16:30:
 I tried installing kernel-source-2.6.0. I used Debian's make-kpkg and
 created a deb file. But when I ran dpkg -i
 kernel-image-2.6.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb, I got a segmentation fault.
 Now I can't upgrade my system because whenever I run apt-get upgrade, I
 get an error saying The package kernel-image-2.6.0 needs to be
 reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
 
 I have run apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean. I've even looked in
 /var/lib/dpkg/info to try and remove anything related to
 kernel-image-2.6.0 but couldn't find anything. What can I do to remove
 this package so I can update my system?

Try:
apt-get -f install
and then 
dpkg --purge kernel-image-2.6.0

Maybe it works,
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Re: How to remove a kernel install package that has failed?

2004-02-09 Thread Jeff Self
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 11:17, Joerg Johannes wrote:
 Am Mo, den 09.02.2004 schrieb Jeff Self um 16:30:
  I tried installing kernel-source-2.6.0. I used Debian's make-kpkg and
  created a deb file. But when I ran dpkg -i
  kernel-image-2.6.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb, I got a segmentation fault.
  Now I can't upgrade my system because whenever I run apt-get upgrade, I
  get an error saying The package kernel-image-2.6.0 needs to be
  reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
  
  I have run apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean. I've even looked in
  /var/lib/dpkg/info to try and remove anything related to
  kernel-image-2.6.0 but couldn't find anything. What can I do to remove
  this package so I can update my system?
 
 Try:
 apt-get -f install
 and then 
 dpkg --purge kernel-image-2.6.0
 
 Maybe it works,
 joerg

Tried that. Still getting the same message.

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Re: kernel install wiped out lilo!

2003-06-13 Thread Mihalis I. Tsoukalos
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 04:31:34PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
 on Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:17:25PM -0500, Andrew A. Raines insinuated:
  Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   now, upon restarting, i can't boot in without a rescue disk!
   before lilo even shows up, i get a screen of cascading 0 1 0 1
   0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1s that just go on forever.
  
  Boot with that rescue disk and mount your system under /mnt.
  Then fix your lilo.conf, run `lilo -v -r /mnt' and carry on.
 
 okay, i tried this, but i get this:
 
 sh: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by
 /target/lib/libc.so.6)
 
 what's up with that?
 
 thanks,
 
 /nori

chroot /mnt after mounting might help.

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kernel install wiped out lilo!

2003-06-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
In my ongoing quest to put Debian on this Dell Inspiron 8000, I
recompiled the kernel and disabled framebuffer support (so the screen
doesn't go all wacky).  I hadn't seen some of the options presented me
by the install menu when i did dpkg -i kernel-image-myimage.deb -- i
have a windoze and redhat partition also on this machine that i need
to keep, so i chose the options that seemed to suggest that those
other partitions would be kept bootable.

now, upon restarting, i can't boot in without a rescue disk!  before
lilo even shows up, i get a screen of cascading 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0
1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1s that just go on forever.

how do i fix my lilo.conf?  should i just wipe it out and start over?
i have a feeling it has to do with the options i chose, however ...

any help would be appreciated.

thanks!


/nori

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Re: kernel install wiped out lilo!

2003-06-12 Thread Andrés Roldán
Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In my ongoing quest to put Debian on this Dell Inspiron 8000, I
 recompiled the kernel and disabled framebuffer support (so the screen
 doesn't go all wacky).  I hadn't seen some of the options presented me
 by the install menu when i did dpkg -i kernel-image-myimage.deb -- i
 have a windoze and redhat partition also on this machine that i need
 to keep, so i chose the options that seemed to suggest that those
 other partitions would be kept bootable.

 now, upon restarting, i can't boot in without a rescue disk!  before
 lilo even shows up, i get a screen of cascading 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0
 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1s that just go on forever.

Did you run lilo after installing the kernel?
If not, run lilo -v2


 how do i fix my lilo.conf?  should i just wipe it out and start over?
 i have a feeling it has to do with the options i chose, however ...

 any help would be appreciated.

 thanks!


 /nori

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Re: kernel install wiped out lilo!

2003-06-12 Thread Andrew A. Raines
Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 now, upon restarting, i can't boot in without a rescue disk!
 before lilo even shows up, i get a screen of cascading 0 1 0 1
 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1s that just go on forever.

Boot with that rescue disk and mount your system under /mnt.
Then fix your lilo.conf, run `lilo -v -r /mnt' and carry on.

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Re: kernel install wiped out lilo!

2003-06-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:17:25PM -0500, Andrew A. Raines insinuated:
 Nori Heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  now, upon restarting, i can't boot in without a rescue disk!
  before lilo even shows up, i get a screen of cascading 0 1 0 1
  0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1s that just go on forever.
 
 Boot with that rescue disk and mount your system under /mnt.
 Then fix your lilo.conf, run `lilo -v -r /mnt' and carry on.

okay, i tried this, but i get this:

sh: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by
/target/lib/libc.so.6)

what's up with that?

thanks,

/nori

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system screwy after kernel install; apt-get log?

2002-11-28 Thread Matt Price
so, I screwed up pretty thoroughly yesterday.  I tried to install the
new DeMuDi beta (a sub-distro of debian that focuses on sound
software) to my existing (mostly) woody machine.  I was fairly
cavalier
about it, didn't pay such close attention to the installation process,
which involved a new kernel and new versions of alsa  the JACK sound
server.

I had trouble getting the woody version to install so I went ahead and
installed the sid version (using apt-get).

Also the install process hung up two or three times during the
configuration of the ALSA sound modules.  (so my original modules and
modules.conf files are gone)

...And at the end of the process, a whole bunch of stuff was broken.
Most Importantly:
-my printer only prints blank pages
-no sound-related software will open, let alone play/record

sooo...  I would like to have my old, only-slightly-broken, system
back.  Unfortunately I installed the demudi-base package, which in its
turn installs a whole bunch f other packages, and I didn't keep
careful track during the process itself.  Does apt-get keep a
log somewhere that I can use to make sure I've undone (most of) the
damage I did when I installed demudi?  I've been through the apt howto
and the Debian Reference and I didn't find mention of such a log
file...

anyway,
thanks much,
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Re: Kernel install error?

2002-06-23 Thread Scott Henson
On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 17:40, curtis wrote:
 I just compiled and installed a kernel and then after it made changes to 
 lilo.conf, I typed lilo and got the following error:
 
 Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 0x48 returned different head/sector 
 geometries for BIOS drive 0x80
 
 Doing a Google search I only found one entry specific to this, but the 
 server it was on stated that they were sorry but that particular entry 
 was being moved to a different server and was presently unavailable.
 
 Anybody know what this means?

This is a lilo error that has been popping up a lot lately.  It
basically telling you that its using two different bios calls to
determine something and they are returning different values.  A lilo
developer came on the list a month or two ago to say that this warning
really wasnt anything to worry about.  So basically you can ignore
this.  I personally use grub, and I love it and would recomend switching
to it anyway, but YMMV.  

 
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Kernel install error?

2002-06-21 Thread curtis
I just compiled and installed a kernel and then after it made changes to 
lilo.conf, I typed lilo and got the following error:


Warning: Int 0x13 function 8 0x48 returned different head/sector 
geometries for BIOS drive 0x80


Doing a Google search I only found one entry specific to this, but the 
server it was on stated that they were sorry but that particular entry 
was being moved to a different server and was presently unavailable.


Anybody know what this means?

Curtis


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Woody k7 kernel install

2002-06-17 Thread Matthias Ellinger
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Hi there,

I've noticed that there is a k7-optimized 2.4.18 Kernel available via apt-get. 
I'm running the bf24 version installed by the Woody CD.

Now, is it worthwhile to change it (1.2 GHz Duron) to the k7, and how can I do 
so with apt?

Thanks,
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Re: Woody k7 kernel install

2002-06-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 01:45, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
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 Hi there,
 
 I've noticed that there is a k7-optimized 2.4.18 Kernel available via 
 apt-get. 
 I'm running the bf24 version installed by the Woody CD.
 
 Now, is it worthwhile to change it (1.2 GHz Duron) to the k7, and how can I 
 do 
 so with apt?

Unless I'm missing something:
# apt-get -u install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 kernel-headers-2.4.18-k7

This should automagically update your lilo.conf, but better eyeball
it first before you run lilo -v.

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Re: Woody k7 kernel install

2002-06-17 Thread Scott Henson
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 03:41, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 01:45, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
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  Hi there,
  
  I've noticed that there is a k7-optimized 2.4.18 Kernel available via 
  apt-get. 
  I'm running the bf24 version installed by the Woody CD.
  
  Now, is it worthwhile to change it (1.2 GHz Duron) to the k7, and how can I 
  do 
  so with apt?
 
 Unless I'm missing something:
 # apt-get -u install kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 kernel-headers-2.4.18-k7
 
 This should automagically update your lilo.conf, but better eyeball
 it first before you run lilo -v.

It shouldnt touch lilo.conf  Not unless you tell it to.  All it should
change is the sym-links /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old  Then it should ask
you if you want to run lilo.  If you say yes it will run it and
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kernel install - unres. symbols

2001-06-28 Thread Robert Voigt
I compiled a 2.4.5 kernel with kernel-package. I had no problems until I 
installed the resulting .deb file. I got the error messages you find below. I 
was running a 2.2.18pre21 kernel.
After a reboot the new kernel loaded fine and I don't have any problems. But 
those error messages don't look good. Especially the one at the bottom with 
the modules.dep': No such file or directory.
Maybe the reason for the unresolved symbols is that I used gcc 2.95.4. In a 
recent dselect session it wanted to upgrade from a stable compiler to this 
cvs version, and I let it happen.
So, can anyone tell me what needs those symbols and why they are unresolved? 
Maybe it loaded the modules from the new kernel while installing it, and 
because the old kernel was still running I got those error messages. But this 
would be a bug in kernel package or dpkg. It shouldn't make those scary error 
messages when everything will be fine after a reboot.

# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package kernel-image-2.4.5.
(Reading database ... 37091 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kernel-image-2.4.5 (from 
kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up kernel-image-2.4.5 (custom-2.4.5-1) ...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/char/lp.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/dummy.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/irport.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/irtty.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/toshoboe.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/parport/parport.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/sound/maestro.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/autofs4/autofs4.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/binfmt_aout.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/binfmt_misc.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/isofs/isofs.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp437.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp850.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_iso8859-1.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_iso8859-15.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/ircomm/ircomm-tty.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/ircomm/ircomm.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irda.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irlan/irlan.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irlan.o
Creating /boot/initrd-2.4.5.gz... cp: cannot create regular file 
`/tmp/initrd-mnt.8071/lib/modules/2.4.5/modules.dep': No such file or 
directory
done.
Testing LILO configuration...
Test successful.  Installing LILO configuration...
Installation successful.



Re: kernel install - unres. symbols

2001-06-28 Thread Joost Kooij
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:11:58PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
 # dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package kernel-image-2.4.5.
 (Reading database ... 37091 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking kernel-image-2.4.5 (from 
 kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb) ...
 Setting up kernel-image-2.4.5 (custom-2.4.5-1) ...
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
 /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
 [lots of those]
 depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irlan.o
 Creating /boot/initrd-2.4.5.gz... cp: cannot create regular file 
 `/tmp/initrd-mnt.8071/lib/modules/2.4.5/modules.dep': No such file or 
   
Hey, what is that initrd stuff doing there?  I'd say it is smoke..

Can you think of anything unusual in your configuration?  Maybe your version
of kernel-package doesn't know how to deal with it.

 directory
 done.
 Testing LILO configuration...
 Test successful.  Installing LILO configuration...
 Installation successful.

If you keep having these unresolved symbol errors, then one might say that
installation was not really successful and that kernel-package should try to
trap these errors.  But that is an if, I don't know what is really wrong.

Cheers,


Joost



Re: kernel install - unres. symbols

2001-06-28 Thread Robert Voigt
On Thursday 28 June 2001 20:46, Joost Kooij wrote:
 Can you think of anything unusual in your configuration?  Maybe your
 version of kernel-package doesn't know how to deal with it.

Good idea. I have kernel-package 7.20 from Progeny, a leftover from when I 
upgraded a bunch of packages from a Progeny CD because the network wasn't 
working and I needed recent drivers. Doeas anyone know if the Progeny 
kernel-package is different?

 If you keep having these unresolved symbol errors, then one might say
 that installation was not really successful and that kernel-package should
 try to trap these errors.  But that is an if, I don't know what is really
 wrong.

As I said, the kernel boots fine. I don't get these messages when I boot. Or 
do you mean when I install that kernel again? Should I try? Is it save to 
install it again?



Re: kernel install - unres. symbols

2001-06-28 Thread Joost Kooij
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:13:05PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
 On Thursday 28 June 2001 20:46, Joost Kooij wrote:
  Can you think of anything unusual in your configuration?  Maybe your
  version of kernel-package doesn't know how to deal with it.
 
 Good idea. I have kernel-package 7.20 from Progeny, a leftover from when I 
 upgraded a bunch of packages from a Progeny CD because the network wasn't 
 working and I needed recent drivers. Doeas anyone know if the Progeny 
 kernel-package is different?

By different setup, I mostly meant to ask about the initrd reference.

BTW, on stable debian I have:
ii  kernel-package   7.15   Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.

and on unstable:
ii  kernel-package   7.43   Debian Linux kernel package build scripts.

zcat kernel-package/changelog.gz | sed -n '/7\.14/q;p' | wc -l
  355
lines of changes

zcat kernel-package/changelog.gz | sed -n '/7\.14/q;/*/p' | wc -l
   88
change items

So maybe you should upgrade kernel-package anyway.

  If you keep having these unresolved symbol errors, then one might say
  that installation was not really successful and that kernel-package should
  try to trap these errors.  But that is an if, I don't know what is really
  wrong.
 
 As I said, the kernel boots fine. I don't get these messages when I boot. Or 
 do you mean when I install that kernel again? Should I try? Is it save to 
 install it again?

If all is well apart from some messages during installation time, then
maybe there is not such a big problem after all.  You could upgrade the
kernel-package and rebuild and install a kernel-image for the sake of it.

Cheers,


Joost



RE: kernel install - unres. symbols

2001-06-28 Thread Ian Perry
I have found this in the past when I have installed the standard system with
modules etc and then recompiled the kernel with these modules in them, or
recompiled with the modules disabled in the kernel.

On reboot it tries to load the modules and cannot.

Try using modconf to remove the unwanted modules.

Ian

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: kernel install - unres. symbols


I compiled a 2.4.5 kernel with kernel-package. I had no problems until I
installed the resulting .deb file. I got the error messages you find below.
I
was running a 2.2.18pre21 kernel.
After a reboot the new kernel loaded fine and I don't have any problems. But
those error messages don't look good. Especially the one at the bottom with
the modules.dep': No such file or directory.
Maybe the reason for the unresolved symbols is that I used gcc 2.95.4. In a
recent dselect session it wanted to upgrade from a stable compiler to this
cvs version, and I let it happen.
So, can anyone tell me what needs those symbols and why they are unresolved?
Maybe it loaded the modules from the new kernel while installing it, and
because the old kernel was still running I got those error messages. But
this
would be a bug in kernel package or dpkg. It shouldn't make those scary
error
messages when everything will be fine after a reboot.

# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package kernel-image-2.4.5.
(Reading database ... 37091 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kernel-image-2.4.5 (from
kernel-image-2.4.5_custom-2.4.5-1_i386.deb) ...
Setting up kernel-image-2.4.5 (custom-2.4.5-1) ...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/char/lp.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/dummy.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/irport.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/irtty.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/net/irda/toshoboe.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/parport/parport.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/parport/parport_pc.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/sound/maestro.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/autofs4/autofs4.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/binfmt_aout.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/binfmt_misc.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/isofs/isofs.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp437.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_cp850.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_iso8859-1.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/fs/nls/nls_iso8859-15.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/ircomm/ircomm-tty.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/ircomm/ircomm.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irda.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irlan/irlan.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/irda/irlan.o
Creating /boot/initrd-2.4.5.gz... cp: cannot create regular file
`/tmp/initrd-mnt.8071/lib/modules/2.4.5/modules.dep': No such file or
directory
done.
Testing LILO configuration...
Test successful.  Installing LILO configuration...
Installation successful.


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lilo problem after kernel install: LIL-

2001-06-11 Thread Anthony Fairchild
Hello all,

I recently upgraded all packages necessary to install a 2.4.x kernel on my
Debian 2.2 laptop. After downloading, compiling, and installing the 2.4.5
kernel I rebooted and was greeted with a screen reading only LIL-.

I have a boot floppy made when I originally installed and was able to reboot
the machine using that and re-ran lilo after editing lilo.conf to use the
older (2.2.17) kernel, but this didn't fix the problem. I would just boot off
of the floppy and be done with it but unfortunately the kernel on the floppy
does not support my pcmcia ethernet adapter. Now I am in the unenviable
position of running Win2k on an old laptop (painfully slow) so I can get a 
network connection.

If anybody knows how to fix this problem I would appreciate the help. Here is
some further information about the setup if any of it is useful.

Dual Boot Windows 2000 Pro. - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

Windows boot manager gets control first, hands it off to lilo if you choose
Linux

Linux boot device is /dev/hda2

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Re: lilo problem after kernel install: LIL-

2001-06-11 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:54:04PM +, Anthony Fairchild wrote:
| Hello all,
| 
| I recently upgraded all packages necessary to install a 2.4.x kernel on my
| Debian 2.2 laptop. After downloading, compiling, and installing the 2.4.5
| kernel I rebooted and was greeted with a screen reading only LIL-.
...
| If anybody knows how to fix this problem I would appreciate the help. Here is
| some further information about the setup if any of it is useful.
| 
| Dual Boot Windows 2000 Pro. - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2

I would highly recommend grub.  I first tried it on a test machine at
work that has Win2k and I was asked to install RH6.2 as dual-boot on
it.

I tried with lilo first, because it is default.  The docs on
linuxdoc.org indicate that chainloading windows from lilo is a bit
complicated, in addition to the fact that RH was above the 1024
cylinder limit.

I then tried grub, just for a change.  It is ridiculously simple to
chainload any other boot loader (including itself ;-)) and has no 1024
cylinder limit.  (I have since heard that the 'lba32' option to lilo
also removes this restriction)  After that experience I tried grub at
home (loadlin run from autoexec.bat even though Win98 was rarely
booted anymore) and it worked great.  Previosly lilo couldn't boot
linux from /dev/hdc.

HTH,
-D



Re: lilo problem after kernel install: LIL-

2001-06-11 Thread ktb
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:54:04PM +, Anthony Fairchild wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I recently upgraded all packages necessary to install a 2.4.x kernel on my
 Debian 2.2 laptop. After downloading, compiling, and installing the 2.4.5
 kernel I rebooted and was greeted with a screen reading only LIL-.
 
 I have a boot floppy made when I originally installed and was able to reboot
 the machine using that and re-ran lilo after editing lilo.conf to use the
 older (2.2.17) kernel, but this didn't fix the problem. I would just boot off
 of the floppy and be done with it but unfortunately the kernel on the floppy
 does not support my pcmcia ethernet adapter. Now I am in the unenviable
 position of running Win2k on an old laptop (painfully slow) so I can get a 
 network connection.
 
 If anybody knows how to fix this problem I would appreciate the help. Here is
 some further information about the setup if any of it is useful.
 
 Dual Boot Windows 2000 Pro. - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
 
 Windows boot manager gets control first, hands it off to lilo if you choose
 Linux
 
 Linux boot device is /dev/hda2

From /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz 

 LIL-   The descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a 
geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map 
installer. 

I'm hesitating a bit here because I haven't worked with Win2k yet but if this
were a Win98 box I would try booting with a windows boot disk containing 
fdisk and run -
fdisk /mbr 
which will rewrite the code for you're mbr.  Then boot back into debian
with your boot disk and rerun /sbin/lilo.

If that doesn't work you could totally blow away your your boot-block 
with -
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
under debian.
Then use fdisk /mbr again and then try installing lilo again.

I want to stress I can't guarantee the results of this.  Make sure you 
have a backup of you're info on your Windows side before trying.
hth,
kent

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Re: lilo problem after kernel install: LIL-

2001-06-11 Thread ktb
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 08:04:16PM -0500, ktb wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 04:54:04PM +, Anthony Fairchild wrote:
  Hello all,
  
  I recently upgraded all packages necessary to install a 2.4.x kernel on my
  Debian 2.2 laptop. After downloading, compiling, and installing the 2.4.5
  kernel I rebooted and was greeted with a screen reading only LIL-.
  
  I have a boot floppy made when I originally installed and was able to reboot
  the machine using that and re-ran lilo after editing lilo.conf to use the
  older (2.2.17) kernel, but this didn't fix the problem. I would just boot 
  off
  of the floppy and be done with it but unfortunately the kernel on the floppy
  does not support my pcmcia ethernet adapter. Now I am in the unenviable
  position of running Win2k on an old laptop (painfully slow) so I can get a 
  network connection.
  
  If anybody knows how to fix this problem I would appreciate the help. Here 
  is
  some further information about the setup if any of it is useful.
  
  Dual Boot Windows 2000 Pro. - Debian GNU/Linux 2.2
  
  Windows boot manager gets control first, hands it off to lilo if you choose
  Linux
  
  Linux boot device is /dev/hda2
 
 From /usr/share/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz 
 
  LIL-   The descriptor table is corrupt. This can either be caused by a 
 geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without running the map 
 installer. 
 
 I'm hesitating a bit here because I haven't worked with Win2k yet but if this
 were a Win98 box I would try booting with a windows boot disk containing 
 fdisk and run -
 fdisk /mbr 
 which will rewrite the code for you're mbr.  Then boot back into debian
 with your boot disk and rerun /sbin/lilo.
 
 If that doesn't work you could totally blow away your your boot-block 
 with -
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
 under debian.
 Then use fdisk /mbr again and then try installing lilo again.

I want to append to this.  If you completely blow away your boot-block -
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
you will have to repartition and format.  Use only as a last resort.
kent

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kernel install - modules? no kerneld?

2001-02-23 Thread Bruce Elliott
New to the Debian distribution, like it so far.  Small problem with modules
and such right now.

I just finished compiling  installing my own kernel using the kernel
package.  Perhaps there were some path dependencies the packaging util was
looking for, but there were no error messages I noticed.  I extracted the
potato kernel source into /usr/src/kernelfun/, a directory owned by user,
say 'joe'.  As 'joe', I untarred the archive and followed the fakeroot, etc.
instructions.  Using xconfig, I told it to build with the module loader.  I
also specified several features to be supported as modules (like sound
support, since I have a PNP card  need to set them up with pnp before
loading the module).  After istalling with dpkg, I rebooted and was told it
could not find modules parport_pc, serial, and ppp, which I see /etc/modules
is telling it to load those.  Using modconf, it tells me the modules are
available, but I have no idea (yet, I'll do some looking) where it's looking
to find them.

Do I need to add kerneld manually to my init sequence?  Shouldn't installing
a kernel package that has that option automatically add it to one of the rc
files?  Just wondering if that should be a 'bug' or it's expected.

Thanks,
Bruce



Re: kernel install - modules? no kerneld?

2001-02-23 Thread Nate Amsden
Bruce Elliott wrote:

 Do I need to add kerneld manually to my init sequence?  Shouldn't installing
 a kernel package that has that option automatically add it to one of the rc
 files?  Just wondering if that should be a 'bug' or it's expected.

kerneld in 2.2 is built into the kernel itself. no daemon. you shouldn't
be
using the kerneld that was used for 2.0 and early 2.1 kernels with 2.2.
at least thats what i hear. i hate using kerneld it fills my logs with
useless crap about not being able to find things. and my systems run
flawlessly.

nate

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Bizarre Kernel Install

2001-01-20 Thread Dragón
   It doesn't give me any error message but when
it starts is still running its oldest kernel.

What's that I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.

In /

total 100
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 dic 16 19:45 bin
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 ene 20 22:20 boot
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 cdrom
drwxr-xr-x5 root root20480 ene 20 21:57 dev
drwxr-xr-x   69 root root 4096 ene 20 21:57 etc
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 floppy
drwxrwsr-x3 root staff4096 dic  9 16:41 home
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 initrd
drwxr-xr-x4 root root 4096 dic  9 16:56 lib
drwxr-xr-x2 root root16384 dic  9 16:07 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 ene 13 22:50 mnt
dr-xr-xr-x   52 root root0 ene 20 21:57 proc
drwxr-xr-x   20 root root 4096 ene 20 21:59 root
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 dic 16 19:40 sbin
drwxrwxrwt4 root root12288 ene 20 22:19 tmp
drwxr-xr-x   14 root root 4096 dic  9 18:07 usr
drwxr-xr-x   15 root root 4096 dic  9 16:59 var
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 dic 16 19:16 vmlinuz - 
boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 dic  9 16:08 vmlinuz.old - 
boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
total 12320

In /boot

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 ene 20 22:20 System.map - 
System.map-2.4.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root   265635 dic 16 19:16 System.map-2.2.17
-rw-r--r--1 root root   201145 ene 13 20:08 System.map-2.2.18
-rw-r--r--1 root root   201145 ene 13 19:39 System.map-2.2.18.old
-rw-r--r--1 root root   201145 ene  6 20:16 System.map-2.2.18pre21
-rw-r--r--1 root root   201145 ene  6 20:14 
System.map-2.2.18pre21.old
-rw-r--r--1 root root   201145 dic 30 23:53 System.map-2.2.28pre21
-rw-r--r--1 root root   424746 ene 20 22:20 System.map-2.4.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root   422275 ene 20 21:53 System.map-2.4.0.old
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 ene 20 22:20 System.map.old - 
System.map-2.4.0.old
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 dic  9 16:34 boot.0302
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4568 dic  9 16:34 boot.b
-rw-r--r--1 root root  612 dic  9 16:34 chain.b
-rw-r--r--1 root root12648 dic 16 19:16 config-2.2.17
-rw---1 root root29184 ene 20 22:20 map
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 dic  9 16:34 mbr.b
-rw-r--r--1 root root  640 dic  9 16:34 os2_d.b
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 ene 20 22:20 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.4.0
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1042807 dic 16 19:16 vmlinuz-2.2.17
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1515942 ene 13 20:08 vmlinuz-2.2.18
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1515942 ene 13 20:01 vmlinuz-2.2.18.old
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1515942 ene  6 20:16 vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1515942 ene  6 20:14 vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21.old
-rw-r--r--1 root root  1515942 dic 30 23:53 vmlinuz-2.2.28pre21
-rw-r--r--1 root root   852389 ene 20 22:20 vmlinuz-2.4.0
-rw-r--r--1 root root   834438 ene 20 21:53 vmlinuz-2.4.0.old
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 ene 20 22:20 vmlinuz.old - 
vmlinuz-2.4.0.old


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Re: Bizarre Kernel Install

2001-01-20 Thread Nate Amsden
Dragón wrote:
 
It doesn't give me any error message but when
 it starts is still running its oldest kernel.
 
 What's that I'm doing wrong?
 
 Thanks.
 
 In /
 
 total 100
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 dic 16 19:45 bin
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 ene 20 22:20 boot
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 cdrom
 drwxr-xr-x5 root root20480 ene 20 21:57 dev
 drwxr-xr-x   69 root root 4096 ene 20 21:57 etc
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 floppy
 drwxrwsr-x3 root staff4096 dic  9 16:41 home
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 jul  5  2000 initrd
 drwxr-xr-x4 root root 4096 dic  9 16:56 lib
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root16384 dic  9 16:07 lost+found
 drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 ene 13 22:50 mnt
 dr-xr-xr-x   52 root root0 ene 20 21:57 proc
 drwxr-xr-x   20 root root 4096 ene 20 21:59 root
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 dic 16 19:40 sbin
 drwxrwxrwt4 root root12288 ene 20 22:19 tmp
 drwxr-xr-x   14 root root 4096 dic  9 18:07 usr
 drwxr-xr-x   15 root root 4096 dic  9 16:59 var
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 dic 16 19:16 vmlinuz - 
 boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17
 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   19 dic  9 16:08 vmlinuz.old - 
 boot/vmlinuz-2.2.17

perhaps that is the problem? nothing bizzare about it but if your
trying to load kernel 2.4 the 'vmlinuz' link should be updated.
and/or change your lilo.conf to load the 2.4 kernel direct from /boot
instead
of loading /vmlinuz.

nate

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Modconf not working after 2.4.x kernel install

2000-12-06 Thread Scott Patterson


I recently compiled and installed a 2.4.x kernel using the debian
kernel-installer package. Everything seems fine except that when I run modconf,
no modules appear. I was hoping to browse my modules this way, but no luck. I
should mention that my modules do work fine, just modconf seems broken. Is there
something I need to do to make modconf see my available modules?

Scott





Re: Modconf not working after 2.4.x kernel install

2000-12-06 Thread Nate Amsden
Scott Patterson wrote:
 
 I recently compiled and installed a 2.4.x kernel using the debian
 kernel-installer package. Everything seems fine except that when I run 
 modconf,
 no modules appear. I was hoping to browse my modules this way, but no luck. I
 should mention that my modules do work fine, just modconf seems broken. Is 
 there
 something I need to do to make modconf see my available modules?

im assuing you are running the version of modutils required by 2.4? see
Documentation/Changes

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kernel install

2000-06-27 Thread cls--colo spgs
debs,

wanting to fully migrate from the 2.0.36 kernel, i need
to install a floppy, custom 2.2.16 kernel on my
dual-boot, potato deskbox.

here's what i did to customize the kernel:

make menuconfig
make dep
make install
make modules
make modules_install

i rtmfm (oops, rtfm), which says to run make bzlilo
and run lilo on it (?) or run lilo directly. 
running lilo gives a segmentation fault error;
running make bzlilo, errors 2 and 139.  (attached is
everything that happened from that command.)

if it matters, here's my empty /etc/lilo.conf:

#
# This is an empty lilo.conf file distributed with the
Debian GNU/Linux
# package of lilo. You should normaly dont see this
file, since it is
# replaced by a new copy at installation time of the
packet.
#
# You can run /usr/sbin/liloconfig to generate a new
config file, which will
# probably suit your needs.
#
# Wed,  9 Dec 1998 02:26:20 +0100  Bernd Eckenfels 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Note: /usr/sbin/liloconf will consider all files
which contain only
#   comments as non-existant and generate new ones
#

plz un-dense me.

ia, t.

bentley taylor.

//



reslolved: Re: kernel install

2000-06-27 Thread cls--colo spgs
debs, 

i figured it out--(since i dual boot with loadlin, i
shouldn't have been focusing on lilo.  i realized the
directory from where my old 2.0.36 kernel was booting
and copied the new kernel there).  oh, well...

later.


bt.

//


cls--colo spgs wrote:
 
 debs,
 
 wanting to fully migrate from the 2.0.36 kernel, i need
 to install a floppy, custom 2.2.16 kernel on my
 dual-boot, potato deskbox.
 
 here's what i did to customize the kernel:
 
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make install
 make modules
 make modules_install
 
 i rtmfm (oops, rtfm), which says to run make bzlilo
 and run lilo on it (?) or run lilo directly.
 running lilo gives a segmentation fault error;
 running make bzlilo, errors 2 and 139.  (attached is
 everything that happened from that command.)
 
 if it matters, here's my empty /etc/lilo.conf:
 
 #
 # This is an empty lilo.conf file distributed with the
 Debian GNU/Linux
 # package of lilo. You should normaly dont see this
 file, since it is
 # replaced by a new copy at installation time of the
 packet.
 #
 # You can run /usr/sbin/liloconfig to generate a new
 config file, which will
 # probably suit your needs.
 #
 # Wed,  9 Dec 1998 02:26:20 +0100  Bernd Eckenfels
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #
 # Note: /usr/sbin/liloconf will consider all files
 which contain only
 #   comments as non-existant and generate new ones
 #
 
 plz un-dense me.
 
 ia, t.
 
 bentley taylor.
 
 //



Re: New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-18 Thread homega
Thanks everyone, I got lilo dual booting the two kernels.  I'm having some
trouble since the new kernel does not recognize hdd as a block device, and
therefore I can't mount my iomega zip drive.  I've checked both
/boot/config-2.0.35 and /boot/config-2.0.34, and this might be the cause:

# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set

I thought this kernel option was this other kernel option was the one for the
zip drive:

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=y

Also, during booting I'm getting some warnings: can't locate modules...
one of them is vfat, but I can mount a floppy with `mount -t vfat ...' ???
another is cdrom, but I can mount cdrom.

I ran lsmod and got:

homega:/boot$ lsmod
Module PagesUsed by

Are there no modules loaded???

Last, if I try to mount a DOS formatted disk, it mounts but:

homega:~# mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
Unable to load NLS charset cp437(nls_cp437)
^^^  ???
and the same for `mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy'
`mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy' is working ok.

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Re: New Kernel install

1999-04-18 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 02:07:14PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If all this is correct so far, what's the point in running lilo to update it?

Because LILO makes reference to the absolute location on disk of the vmlinuz
file (at the far end of the symlink) in the boot code it writes out. Changing
the symlinks makes no difference on its own; LILO knows nothing about ext2fs
file systems or symlinks.

No need to copy .config over; that's just for convenience.


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New Kernel install

1999-04-17 Thread homega
It seems I've finally succeeded into compiling the kernel successfully (cross
fingers).  Now, for installation, I have to:

# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35
# cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.35
# cp /usr/src/linux/.config /boot/config-2.0.35

Next, remove /vmlinuz symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34, and create a new symlink
/vmlinuz pointing to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35.

If all this is correct so far, what's the point in running lilo to update it?
In fact, lilo already point to /vmlinuz:

boot=/dev/hda2
root=/dev/hda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=20
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

How about the other places lilo.conf point to?  /boot/boot.b and /boot/map,
haven't been changed, should they?

TIA

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New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-17 Thread homega
I believe it's possible to maintain both kernel and have a dual boot (eg. one
for kernel-2.0.34 and another for kernel-2.0.35)... how do I go about this with
lilo?

TIAYA

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Re: New Kernel install

1999-04-17 Thread John Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It seems I've finally succeeded into compiling the kernel successfully (cross
 fingers).  Now, for installation, I have to:
 
 # cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35
 # cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.0.35
-
create a symlink here named System.map pointing to System.map-2.0.35  
-
 # cp /usr/src/linux/.config /boot/config-2.0.35
 
 Next, remove /vmlinuz symlink to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.34, and create a new 
 symlink
 /vmlinuz pointing to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.35.
 
 If all this is correct so far, what's the point in running lilo to update it?
 In fact, lilo already point to /vmlinuz:

Like I said earlier even though Lilo seems to be pointed correctly, run
it anyway. What lilo does is write a boot sector message to the primary
boot sevtor of your hard drive. If you do not do this when you reboot
the machine it is likely to not reboot properly. Hanging at LI---  :-)


 
 boot=/dev/hda2
 root=/dev/hda2
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 delay=20
 image=/vmlinuz
 label=Linux
 read-only
 
 How about the other places lilo.conf point to?  /boot/boot.b and /boot/map,
 haven't been changed, should they?
 
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Re: New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-17 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: New Kernel install (II)
Date: Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 02:15:55PM +0200

In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 I believe it's possible to maintain both kernel and have a dual boot (eg. one
 for kernel-2.0.34 and another for kernel-2.0.35)... how do I go about this 
 with
 lilo?
 
 TIAYA
 
 Horacio
From my lilo.conf

#   Debian 2.1
#
Image= /boot/slink
  label  = Slink
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0xb
  append = lp=0x378,0

Image= /boot/Slink-2.2.3
  label  = Slink2.2.3
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0x317
  append  = lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none

Image= /boot/Slink-2.2.5
  label  = Slink2.2.5
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0x317
  append  = lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none

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Re: New Kernel install (II)

1999-04-17 Thread Alan Tam
Hi,

cd to /etc to edit the file lilo.conf as
original lilo.conf
===
 boot=/dev/hdxn
where x = hard disk a or b; n = partition number 1, 2, 3 etc
(could be boot=/dev/hda if you have written the master boot record (MBR) during 
your
initial install)
 root=/dev /hdxn
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 delay=20
 image=/vmlinuz
  label=Linux
  read-only

add:
 image=/zImage (your newly compiled or installed kernel)
  label=036 (or whatever you like)
  read-only
after the line delay=20, before image=/vmlinuz

Run lilo (the default image comes with a * along side which means the first
image
in lilo.conf)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I believe it's possible to maintain both kernel and have a dual boot (eg. one
 for kernel-2.0.34 and another for kernel-2.0.35)... how do I go about this 
 with
 lilo?

 TIAYA

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custom kernel install floppy problem

1999-02-26 Thread Helge Hafting

I am helping a friend installing debain on a laptop with a
backpack cdrom, and have some trouble.
(A compaq thing, 486/75 with 16M ram  500 or so of harddisk)

The 2.0 install floppy was used for partitioning the disk, but
it couldn't see the backpack cdrom.

So I compiled a 2.2.2 kernel.  This one autodetects the backpack
cdrom at bootup, but it fails mysteriously, believing that there
is no harddisk!  Yes - the driver for the ide disk is in place.
And I can press alt+F2 and mount /dev/hda1 just fine and access
the empty partition waiting for installation.  I can run cfdisk
too - no problem.
But the install program stubbornly insist that there is no
harddisk, so it won't even let me try partitioning or use
the swap partition.  Needless to say, the install stop there.

Does the install program depend on some particular kernel feature
for discovering the disk, beside the driver that work already?
I tried enabling the automounter - that didn't help.  Is there
anything else that must (or must not) be configured?

Helge Hafting





 










Re: help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-10 Thread jpjevans

Found it. It was in hamm and not in slink yet. I installed it
and now I'm compiling. Hopefully, it will end up ok. Wish me
luck! :-)


On  9 Jan, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
 
 
 On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
   but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
   produces the following errors:
 
   debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts/lxdialog all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
 lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 
 You need to install the curses3.4-dev package.
 

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help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-09 Thread jpjevans
Hi, folks

I want to update my kernel (2.0.34) to 2.0.36. I've already
upgraded the rest of my system slink, so today I used apt-get to
install the new kernel-source.

When I switched to the /usr/src/linux directory, I found it was
still pointing to kernel-source-2.0.34. I also found that the
2.0.36 stuff had not been unpacked. It still existed as a
.tar.gz file, so I used gzip and tar to unroll it. Now I have a
kernel-source-2.0.36 directory but /usr/src/linux was still
pointing to 2.0.34. I rm'd the linux* links and created one
pointing to 2.0.36. My /usr/src now looks like this:

debian:/usr/src# l
total 29991
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Oct 13 13:54 kernel-headers-2.0.32
drwxr-xr-x  16 root root 1024 Jan  9 14:11 kernel-source-2.0.34
drwxr-xr-x  15 root root 1024 Jan  9 14:12 kernel-source-2.0.36
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 30586880 Nov 27 23:58 kernel-source-2.0.36.tar
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root src20 Jan  9 14:23 linux - 
kernel-source-2.0.36

Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
 but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
 produces the following errors:

 debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts/lxdialog all
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2

So, what's happing? Why didn't apt-get install unroll everything
and set it up properly? Have I got myself hopelessly screwed up?
And, how can I get things set up so that I may get on with this?

TIA!!  :-)

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Re: help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-09 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq


On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
produces the following errors:
 
debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts/lxdialog all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
 lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2

You need to install the curses3.4-dev package.

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Re: help wanted for kernel install

1999-01-09 Thread jpjevans
On  9 Jan, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
 
 
 On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ok, now I cd to linux and I'm in 2.0.36. This seems right to me,
   but I must still missing something, because make menuconfig
   produces the following errors:
 
   debian:/usr/src/linux# make menuconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts/lxdialog all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE  -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c 
 lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 
 You need to install the curses3.4-dev package.
 

Where can that be found? I tried to apt-get it and get the
following:

debian:/home/jesse# apt-get install curses3.4-dev
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
E: Couldn't find package curses3.4-dev

I have sources.lists pointing to slink.:
  (deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free)
Is it somewhere else?

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Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Walker
Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29
I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
and did the following steps:
tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
cd linux
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make zlilo
make modules
make modules_install
reboot

Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.


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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Chuck Peters

Install make-kpkg.
After make menuconfig
make-kpkg --revision version name kernel_image
Install the new kernel with dpkg.

Chuck 

On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Scott Walker wrote:

 Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
 I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29
 I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
 and did the following steps:
 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo
 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.
 
 
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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

There is not enough information to make a judgement. Please
 provide the following:
% ls -asCF /lib/modules
% ls -als /
% ls -asCF /boot

BTW, on Debian, kernel-package offers a simple, convenient way
 of upgrading and maintianing severl different versions of the kernel
 on your machine concurrently. (/usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz
 should be helpful). 

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Henry Hollenberg

Sounds like maybe you didn't redo your links for vmlinuz in / and didn't
edit lilo.conf (if you want to still have your old kernel available in
emergencys).

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong



Carroll Kong

 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz

technically you forgot..

cd /usr/include
rm -rf asm linux scsi
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi

 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo

you also did not seem to check /etc/lilo.conf

 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. 

you mean you thought it was running 2.0.33 because uname -a isn't going to
lie on you.  If uname -a says 2.0.29... you can immediately start thinking
something about this box is different, the computer isnt' going to change
kernels on you.  Try different methods of approach to solve the problem then,
your solutions of leaving it on for an hour did not help, but your land /
teardrop was a good way to confirm the kernel.

 so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

This is how I would do it.. make zImage instead of make zlilo.

*backup /vmlinuz, most likely a link to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, to something like 
/boot/vmlinuz.old*  

cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
 
*consider copying to /boot/vmlinuz-2.0.33 then recreating the /vmlinuz symlink*

*check /etc/lilo.conf, make sure it is pointing to the right hd and /vmlinuz*

lilo

*check date of /vmlinuz or wherever dest file is.  Since the dest file is
/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.29, you might want to change it when you confirm it's file
size and date is different and than vmlinuz.old*

then reboot.  on the other hand, you can check /etc/lilo.conf first... then run
make zlilo.  (considering the other steps as well)

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:

  tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 
 technically you forgot..
 
 cd /usr/include
 rm -rf asm linux scsi
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
 ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi


NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
/usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Carroll Kong
My bad.  Sorry for the misinformation then.  I am new to
Debian... used
to old school Slackware.  

Although it says it will break compilations... it seemed to work fine
for the most part.  But from now on, I will not do it.

Carroll Kong

On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Scott Ellis wrote:

 On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Carroll Kong wrote:
 
   tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
  
  technically you forgot..
  
  cd /usr/include
  rm -rf asm linux scsi
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-386 asm
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
  ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi scsi
 
 
 NO, DON'T DO THIS.  Read /usr/doc/libc5/FAQ.gz or
 /usr/doc/libc6/FAQ.Debian.gz for the reasons why not.
 
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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread Henry Hollenberg

I found Dale Scheetz book helpful pg. 159-171 go over the traditional
linux way of compiling a custom kernel vs. the Debian way.

I got mine from www.linuxpress.com but you might find one in your local
bookstore The Debian Linux User's Guide

I'd have been pretty lost without it.  Oh yeah, I don't have any stock in
this company or book and wouldn't no Dale if I literally bumped into
himjust found the book helpful for me.

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Re: Kernel Install

1998-03-04 Thread David Wright
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Scott Walker wrote:

 Ok, this is a BIG nasty weird problem.
 I'm runnig Debian With default Kernel 2.0.29

So we're in bo, I take it.

 I grabbed Kernel 2.0.33 from ftp.kernel.org
 and did the following steps:
 tar zpfxv linux_2.0.33.tar.gz
 cd linux
 make mrproper
 make menuconfig
 make dep
 make clean
 make zlilo
 make modules
 make modules_install
 reboot
 
 Now, on ANY other machine.. doing a uname -a or checking /proc/version I'd
 have Linux 2.0.33 blah lah lah... But not on this box... it's still saying
 2.0.29. Now I left the machine running for an hour.. and still.. 2.0.29..
 so I rebooted.. still 2.0.29.. I copied the kernel I compiled to a disk
 and boot the disk in another machine.. kernel 2.0.33. Now I check the
 'screwed' machine by attacking it with land/teardrop to see if it was just
 a version screw up and it was really running 2.0.33 just not reporting
 it.. and it bombed. so it's still running 2.0.29. does anyone hve ANY
 ideas about this? I have recompiled, reinstalled, reunpacked and
 redownloaded the kernel multiple times and it still will nt update.

Well it pretty obviously put the compiled kernel somewhere where 
something couldn't find it, so it just carried on using the old one.
Presumably it consistently did the same thing multiple times, which is a 
relief.

I notice you're using a linux tarball and not the Debian kernel-source 
package, so there may be some sort of tweak missing. For example, the 
linux/Makefile says:

# INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system map
# images.  Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.

#INSTALL_PATH=/boot

Now I compile my own kernels from kernel-source packages and I don't 
touch that line. However, make install always puts the new kernel and 
map in /boot (and moves symlinks in root), so something must be Debianised.

You could try changing make zlilo to make zImage and make install and see
where the kernel image ends up (remember the System.map too).

Alternatively, you could get 33 in a debian package from unstable - I've 
compiled it for the joystick on a bo system without any problems.

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