Re: Vieille version de knoppix

2021-10-22 Thread Klaus Becker




Le 22/10/2021 à 16:03, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside a écrit :

Bonjour,

On 2021-10-21 8:38 a.m., Grégoire Scano wrote:

Bonjour Didier,

la liste debian-l10n-french est consacrée à la traduction de Debian en
français, je redirige donc ton message vers la liste debian-user-french
dédiée à aider les utilisateurs et dont les membres pourront sûrement
t'aider.

Merci de ne pas m'inclure dans le fil de discussion,
Grégoire

On 10/21/21 3:56 PM, Didier Romieu wrote:

Bonjour.
Sur un vieux portable (Pentium III 2.5Ghz, 256Mo de RAM, 60GO de disque)
qui ne peut booter que sur une disquette ou un cd (rw max 700Mo), j'ai
installé sur le disque dur Knoppix 6.7 !
La connexion réseau fonctionne par un clé USB wifi.
Tout est pour le mieux.
Mais peut-on encore utiliser les commandes de mise a jour "apt-get
update et upgrade" ?
J'obtiens des messages d'erreur comme :
"Impossible de récupérer
http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz
<http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
404 Not found [IP : 151.101.2.132 80]

Je peux déjà vous dire que cette référence est erronné.
En effet, la version stable actuellement est de loin plus récente que
Knoppix 6.7 !


ou
"Impossible de récupérer
http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz
<http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
Ce qui semble normal au vu de l'ancienneté du logiciel.
Mais existe-t-il une solution de secours ?

Trouvez quel est le dépot auxquel Knoppix 6.7 se réferrait (la version
de Debian si les dépots standard étaient utilisé) puis modifier le
"stable" pour la référence de cette version.


En vous remerciant.

*Didier ROMIEU*






Bonjour,

Knoppix n'est pas faite pour des mises à jour.

C'est un ingénieux mélange de source stable, testing et instable qui 
fonctionne à un moment donné seulement.


Je l'ai déjà essayé : ça peut fonctionner (avec une version récente), 
mais on risque de perdre une partie des particularités de Knoppix.


Donc à déconseiller.

ciao
Klaus



Re: Vieille version de knoppix

2021-10-22 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Bonjour,

On 2021-10-21 8:38 a.m., Grégoire Scano wrote:
> Bonjour Didier,
> 
> la liste debian-l10n-french est consacrée à la traduction de Debian en
> français, je redirige donc ton message vers la liste debian-user-french
> dédiée à aider les utilisateurs et dont les membres pourront sûrement
> t'aider.
> 
> Merci de ne pas m'inclure dans le fil de discussion,
> Grégoire
> 
> On 10/21/21 3:56 PM, Didier Romieu wrote:
>> Bonjour.
>> Sur un vieux portable (Pentium III 2.5Ghz, 256Mo de RAM, 60GO de disque)
>> qui ne peut booter que sur une disquette ou un cd (rw max 700Mo), j'ai
>> installé sur le disque dur Knoppix 6.7 !
>> La connexion réseau fonctionne par un clé USB wifi.
>> Tout est pour le mieux.
>> Mais peut-on encore utiliser les commandes de mise a jour "apt-get
>> update et upgrade" ?
>> J'obtiens des messages d'erreur comme :
>> "Impossible de récupérer
>> http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz
>> <http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
>> 404 Not found [IP : 151.101.2.132 80]
Je peux déjà vous dire que cette référence est erronné.
En effet, la version stable actuellement est de loin plus récente que
Knoppix 6.7 !

>> ou
>> "Impossible de récupérer
>> http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz
>> <http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
>> Ce qui semble normal au vu de l'ancienneté du logiciel.
>> Mais existe-t-il une solution de secours ?
Trouvez quel est le dépot auxquel Knoppix 6.7 se réferrait (la version
de Debian si les dépots standard étaient utilisé) puis modifier le
"stable" pour la référence de cette version.

>> En vous remerciant.
>>
>> *Didier ROMIEU*
> 

-- 
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Re: Vieille version de knoppix

2021-10-21 Thread NoSpam

Bonjour Didier

il y a une erreur dans les liens, i383 devrait être i386

Je vous invite à consulter https://wiki.debian.org/fr/DebianRepository
afin d'obtenir pour l'URL correspondante. Pour Etch elle serait de type

http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/dists/etch/

(à adapter bien sûr)

Le 21/10/2021 à 14:38, Grégoire Scano a écrit :

Bonjour Didier,

la liste debian-l10n-french est consacrée à la traduction de Debian en
français, je redirige donc ton message vers la liste debian-user-french
dédiée à aider les utilisateurs et dont les membres pourront sûrement
t'aider.

Merci de ne pas m'inclure dans le fil de discussion,
Grégoire

On 10/21/21 3:56 PM, Didier Romieu wrote:

Bonjour.
Sur un vieux portable (Pentium III 2.5Ghz, 256Mo de RAM, 60GO de disque)
qui ne peut booter que sur une disquette ou un cd (rw max 700Mo), j'ai
installé sur le disque dur Knoppix 6.7 !
La connexion réseau fonctionne par un clé USB wifi.
Tout est pour le mieux.
Mais peut-on encore utiliser les commandes de mise a jour "apt-get
update et upgrade" ?
J'obtiens des messages d'erreur comme :
"Impossible de récupérer
http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz
<http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
404 Not found [IP : 151.101.2.132 80]
ou
"Impossible de récupérer
http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz
<http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
Ce qui semble normal au vu de l'ancienneté du logiciel.
Mais existe-t-il une solution de secours ?
En vous remerciant.

*Didier ROMIEU*

--
Daniel



Vieille version de knoppix

2021-10-21 Thread Grégoire Scano
Bonjour Didier,

la liste debian-l10n-french est consacrée à la traduction de Debian en
français, je redirige donc ton message vers la liste debian-user-french
dédiée à aider les utilisateurs et dont les membres pourront sûrement
t'aider.

Merci de ne pas m'inclure dans le fil de discussion,
Grégoire

On 10/21/21 3:56 PM, Didier Romieu wrote:
> Bonjour.
> Sur un vieux portable (Pentium III 2.5Ghz, 256Mo de RAM, 60GO de disque)
> qui ne peut booter que sur une disquette ou un cd (rw max 700Mo), j'ai
> installé sur le disque dur Knoppix 6.7 !
> La connexion réseau fonctionne par un clé USB wifi.
> Tout est pour le mieux.
> Mais peut-on encore utiliser les commandes de mise a jour "apt-get
> update et upgrade" ?
> J'obtiens des messages d'erreur comme :
> "Impossible de récupérer
> http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz
> <http://ftp.de.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
> 404 Not found [IP : 151.101.2.132 80]
> ou
> "Impossible de récupérer
> http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz
> <http://security.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/contrib/binary-i383/Packages.gz>"
> Ce qui semble normal au vu de l'ancienneté du logiciel.
> Mais existe-t-il une solution de secours ?
> En vous remerciant.
> 
> *Didier ROMIEU*



Re: RFE: a "testcd" (a la knoppix) option for the debian DVD?

2020-08-14 Thread Albretch Mueller
 anything "ephemeral" and having a(n apparently) "simple" only way of
doing things play into their games.

 They are using javascript to get into and mess with people's
computers/life. They can change both the link to the installation file
to be downloaded and to the signatures of the files on the fly when
they notice you are trying to get out of "your jail" ...

 If you have the signatures right on the DVD as knoppix does and that
write-once media you can test off line, that would make things much
harder for them. One of the "technical" problems with such bs is that
you have to have total contral and people have no minds for it to be
truly effective.

 The initial installation disk I am using ("d-live 9.4.0 kd amd64")
contains only 704 files:
~
_SDIR="/media/cdrom0"

ls -l "${_SDIR}"

_DT=$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S)

_LOG_PRFX=$(basename "${_SDIR}")_${_DT}
echo "// __ \$_LOG_PRFX: |$_LOG_PRFX|"

_TMPFL="${_LOG_PRFX}_$(mktemp ${_DT}.XX)_temp.ls"
echo "// __ \$_TMPFL: |${_TMPFL}|"

_OFL="${_LOG_PRFX}_find_sort.ls"
echo "// __ \$_OFL: |${_OFL}|"

_ERRS_FL="${_LOG_PRFX}_find_errors.log"
echo "// __ \$_ERRS_FL: |${_ERRS_FL}|"

time( find "${_SDIR}" -type f -printf '%s|%d|%P\n' > "${_TMPFL}" 2>
"${_ERRS_FL}" ) 2>> "${_ERRS_FL}"

ls -l "${_ERRS_FL}"
wc -l "${_ERRS_FL}"

tail -n 10 "${_ERRS_FL}"

kwrite "${_ERRS_FL}" &

env LC_COLLATE=C sort  --field-separator="|" -V --key 2,2 --key 3,3
"${_TMPFL}" > "${_OFL}"

rm --force --verbose "${_TMPFL}"

ls -l "${_OFL}"
wc -l "${_OFL}"

kwrite "${_OFL}" &
~
_TEST_FL="${_SDIR}/pool/main/u/util-linux/libblkid1-udeb_2.29.2-1_amd64.udeb"

time md5sum -b "${_TEST_FL}"
time sha256sum -b "${_TEST_FL}"

$ time md5sum -b "${_TEST_FL}"
616f56c4e1bc5a28e5e9efe8b765e4f0
*/media/cdrom0/pool/main/u/util-linux/libblkid1-udeb_2.29.2-1_amd64.udeb

real0m2.812s
user0m0.008s
sys 0m0.000s

$ time sha256sum -b "${_TEST_FL}"
cdf76fd21df8fef5ce2bef79319d545e782822a55b5a8d7fd3d6ae1eb85043ee
*/media/cdrom0/pool/main/u/util-linux/libblkid1-udeb_2.29.2-1_amd64.udeb

real0m0.061s
user0m0.004s
sys 0m0.000s
$
~
 so, roughly 700 * (32 + 64) = 66Kb of uncompressed data for the
md5sum and sha256sum signatures of the files. That figure would be
greater for blends but I think it would be very small anyway and very
worthy. those 66Kb could be made even smaller if the paths in the fs
description file with the signatures is turned into tree based on
indexes.

 Debian could even make it better than knoppix (in addition to
including a memtest option right on the DVD ;-)) it could give the
options to:

 1) decrypt transfer data from backups once the installation is finished
 2) reset/reinstall just one set of applications (libreoffice) or a
single application (say firefox, or writer)

 I don't think that implementing that should be that difficult and if
a "toram" option is included right on the live option of the
installation DVD, that would make Debian closer to being "better than
sex" ;-).

 That was only a suggestion, rough "proof of concept" I am sure the
maintainers will find better ways of doing what I described.

 lbrtchx



Re: RFE: a "testcd" (a la knoppix) option for the debian DVD?

2020-08-13 Thread Albretch Mueller
 It always amazes me when computer people rely on syntactical devices
for any kinds of tests (like everything is so obvious, right? ;-));
let alone, integrity, security, "privacy" related ones (or that thing
they used to call "privacy").

> The testcd option for Knoppix is checksumming as far as I know.

 Yes, but you can test the content of the DVD right off the physical
read-only thing, unalterable whenever you want and disconnected to the
Internet, which you could then verify further by going online and
downloading all signatures if you so decide ...

 The only thing that remains to be trusted nowadays is the mind-body
link, so all kinds of "tests" should have a endogenously free,
mind-related, optimally one-time aspect that they can't control.

 To wit (for you to have more reasons to think I am "crazy", but as
they say: "mark my words"). There is this thing USG is doing as part
of their social control programs, they call "multiversing" (the
opposite being "universing", which they also do) which is basically
that they have so much control over all aspects of the lives of every
one of us and can target their harassment so accurately, that they
can, quite effectively, jail you in a "virtual cage" only you would
notice, be aware of. It is called (social control, Zersetzung-kind of)
"targeting" ...

 They even made Durerte believe God was talking to him ;-)

 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/world/asia/president-duterte-says-god-told-him-to-swear-off-the-curse-words.html

 You could hear clear voices talking to you with semantic depth and
having a protracted conversation with you while your spouse trying to
sleep right next to you can't hear anything (so, s/he will think you
are going mad), or you forget your car keys and "the voices" tell you
and tease you as you look for them, ... Some people have committed
suicide.

 I know, I know what I have related is totally off topic (or not!)

 lbrtchx

On 8/13/20, Andrew Cater  wrote:
> How are you downloading your media? if you use jigdo to make it, it is
> checksummed and tested at the final stage.
>
> http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-quick-post-on-how-to-use-jigdo-to.html
>
> If you download it via HTTP, you are using signatures and checksums to
> verify the integrity of the download, aren't you?
>
> http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/how-to-use-signed-checksum-files-to.html
>
> If you write the medium to a USB stick, what options are you using?
>
> The testcd option for Knoppix is checksumming as far as I know.
>
> [The links are to Planet Debian blogs written by me only because these
> questions have come up before, nothing more.]



RFE: a "testcd" (a la knoppix) option for the debian DVD?

2020-08-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 8/12/20, Albretch Mueller  wrote:
>
>



Re: installing knoppix or debian on hard list

2017-03-11 Thread Joe
On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 18:38:52 +
Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 04 February 2017 13:16:23 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I have never had any contact with Knoppix so do not know if a
> > similar procedure could be followed.   
> 
> Knoppix is intended primarily as a Live CD, and last time I tried was
> quite tricky to install.
> 

It's been years since I tried that. As I recall, the installation was
easy enough, but as we are warned, Knoppix is not maintainable, so is
not very suitable for long-term use.

It's designed to be used exactly as issued, with the user moving on to
the next version when released. The design effort goes into the hardware
compatibility, with no attention paid either to continuously upgrading a
hard drive installation, or an in-place upgrade to the next version.

-- 
Joe



Re: installing knoppix or debian on hard list

2017-03-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 04 February 2017 13:16:23 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have never had any contact with Knoppix so do not know if a
> similar procedure could be followed. 

Knoppix is intended primarily as a Live CD, and last time I tried was quite 
tricky to install.

Lisi



Re: installing knoppix or debian on hard list

2017-02-04 Thread Richard Owlett

On 02/03/2017 02:53 PM, John Culleton wrote:

I have my existing OS on /sda3. I want to leave it untouched. > I also have an 
OS on /sda4 that I am willing to overwrite.
The easiest path for me is to fire up Knoppix 7.6 and write
it to hard disk. But I need assurance that I won't disturb
/sda3 in any way.



I think you have omitted relevant information.
What is on /sda1 and /sda2?
What OS is on on /sda3? on /sda4?
What is your bootloader?

Technically correct answers can be given without this 
information. However, suitability to *YOUR* goals/preferences ???


My current used laptop resembles your setup. /sda1 and /sda2 are 
the Windows installation installed by the seller. They are being 
left untouched until the end of my warranty. /sda3 is an extended 
partition and /sda6 is swap.


/sda5 has Debian Jessie with Mate desktop. This is my primary OS 
which I take pains not to mess-up - {comparable to your /sda3}.

/sda7 has Jessie with Xfce that someone had suggested I try.
/sda8,/sda9,/sda10 are several identical installs of Jessie being 
used to chase down a possible bug.

The above occupies only ~1/2 of available space.

To avoid disturbing in *ANY* way the Windows install or my 
primary Debian install I do the following:

1. make the additional installs of Debian using "expert mode"
   to give me maximum control.
2. at the partitioning menu I chose manual to:
   a. chose destination partition of current install.
   b. flag the current swap partition as "Do Not Use"
  [The Jessie installer automatically reformats
   any existing swap partition, changing its UUID
   which can cause problems with other installs]. It suits
   me to not use any swap for my secondary installs. The
   installer will warn, but accept]
3. chose to install neither GRUB not LILO. That allows me to
   keep my existing GRUB menu. On reboot I run update-grub
   from my primary Debian install to add the latest install at
   the bottom of the menu.

I have never had any contact with Knoppix so do not know if a 
similar procedure could be followed. In any case remember to do a 
backup first.


HTH








Re: installing knoppix or debian on hard list

2017-02-03 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:53 PM, John Culleton <j...@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

> I have my existing OS on /sda3. I want to leave it untouched. I also
> have an OS on /sda4 that I am willing to overwrite. The easiest path
> for me is to fire up Knoppix 7.6 and write it to hard disk. But I need
> assurance that I won't disturb /sda3 in any way.
>
> --
> John Culleton
> Wexfordpress
> Book design and indexing.
>
>
>

It's entirely dependent on you whether /dev/sda3 will be disturbed or not.

I haven't fired up Knoppix in quite a long time, and don't know what it's
installer looks like, but I suspect you'll get a chance to choose what
partitions to use, and at that point, it's all on you.

You might find it easier/safer to put a second hard drive in the computer,
remove /sda (so it can't be touched), then install to the second drive. Of
course, that depends on you having a second drive available.

Tinkering with partitions is always risky; a good backup is your friend.


-- 
Kent West<")))><
Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com


installing knoppix or debian on hard list

2017-02-03 Thread John Culleton
I have my existing OS on /sda3. I want to leave it untouched. I also
have an OS on /sda4 that I am willing to overwrite. The easiest path
for me is to fire up Knoppix 7.6 and write it to hard disk. But I need
assurance that I won't disturb /sda3 in any way. 

-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.




Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 On Tue 18 Sep 2012 at 17:28:22 -0400, Tom H wrote:

 There'll hopefully be someone here who'll know and reply but it seems
 too specific to Knoppix to expect an answer here. (I understand your
 account problem though!).

 Looking at the url that you posted earlier, I assume that you've
 already tried a straight transposition of the grub1 stanza into a
 grub2 one:

 menuentry Knoppix {
 linux /boot/isolinux/linux ramdisk_size=10 init=/etc/init lang=us
 apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
 initrd /boot/isolinux/minirt.gz
 }

 Knoppix boots using grub-legacy so wouldn't the OP have to change to
 GRUB 2 first? Considering the OS can be installed to a USB device from
 the CD I'm beginning to wonder why GRUB 2 matters and what exactly the
 problem is.

The OP specifically asked for grub2. Maybe he want to add a Knoppix
stanza to his Debian grub2 setup.


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[OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread T Elcor

Hi,

Am trying to create a bootable USB card running Knoppix, which I use as a 
recovery tool in case if there are problems with my main Debian system.

I succeeded creating a bootable USB-card based on grub1 but am having problems 
with grub2, see http://knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ for instructions I used.

Anyone running Knoppix from a USB-card with grub2? How does your 
/boot/grub/grub.cfg look like?

Thanks


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Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM, T Elcor tel...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Am trying to create a bootable USB card running Knoppix, which I
 use as a recovery tool in case if there are problems with my main
 Debian system.

 I succeeded creating a bootable USB-card based on grub1 but am
 having problems with grub2, see http://knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
 for instructions I used.

 Anyone running Knoppix from a USB-card with grub2? How does
 your /boot/grub/grub.cfg look like?

Don't you think that you;e more likely to find Knoppix users on a
Knoppix list like debian-knoppix or in a Knoppix Forum like
http://knoppix.net/forum/ ?


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Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message -

From: Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com

 Don't you think that you;e more likely to find Knoppix users on a
 Knoppix list like debian-knoppix or in a Knoppix Forum like
 http://knoppix.net/forum/ ?

I think you're right, of course. I simply don't have an account there and was 
hoping maybe I could solve this little problem without creating new accounts 
(already have too many). Thanks


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Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Sep 2012 at 05:57:54 -0700, T Elcor wrote:

 Am trying to create a bootable USB card running Knoppix, which I use
 as a recovery tool in case if there are problems with my main Debian
 system.

To satisfy our curiosity: what does Knoppix on a USB device as a
recovery tool give you that Debian on the device doesn't?

 I succeeded creating a bootable USB-card based on grub1 but am having
 problems with grub2, see http://knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ for
 instructions I used.
 
 Anyone running Knoppix from a USB-card with grub2? How does your
 /boot/grub/grub.cfg look like?

The question you really wanted to ask was -'How do I boot Knoppix on my
Debian machine and copy it to a USB stick?' Which would have nicely put
us on-topic.

Anyway: in /etc/grub.d/40_custom put

   menuentry Knoppix Adriane {
   set root=(hd0,1)
   loopback loop /boot/isos/knoppix-adriane.iso
   linux (loop)/boot/isolinux/linux 
bootfrom=/dev/sda1/boot/isos/knoppix-adriane.iso
   initrd (loop)/boot/isolinux/minirt.gz
}

changing (hd0,1) and sda1 to suit your situation. Run 'update-grub' and
boot into Knoppix. Get a terminal, plug in a USB stick and transfer
Knoppix to it with 'flash-knoppix'.


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Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM, T Elcor tel...@yahoo.com wrote:
 From: Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com

 Don't you think that you;e more likely to find Knoppix users on a
 Knoppix list like debian-knoppix or in a Knoppix Forum like
 http://knoppix.net/forum/ ?

 I think you're right, of course. I simply don't have an account
 there and was hoping maybe I could solve this little problem
 without creating new accounts (already have too many).

There'll hopefully be someone here who'll know and reply but it seems
too specific to Knoppix to expect an answer here. (I understand your
account problem though!).

Looking at the url that you posted earlier, I assume that you've
already tried a straight transposition of the grub1 stanza into a
grub2 one:

menuentry Knoppix {
linux /boot/isolinux/linux ramdisk_size=10 init=/etc/init lang=us
apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
initrd /boot/isolinux/minirt.gz
}


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Re: [OT] Grub2: grub.cfg for live Knoppix running from USB-card

2012-09-18 Thread Brian
On Tue 18 Sep 2012 at 17:28:22 -0400, Tom H wrote:

 There'll hopefully be someone here who'll know and reply but it seems
 too specific to Knoppix to expect an answer here. (I understand your
 account problem though!).
 
 Looking at the url that you posted earlier, I assume that you've
 already tried a straight transposition of the grub1 stanza into a
 grub2 one:
 
 menuentry Knoppix {
 linux /boot/isolinux/linux ramdisk_size=10 init=/etc/init lang=us
 apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix
 initrd /boot/isolinux/minirt.gz
 }

Knoppix boots using grub-legacy so wouldn't the OP have to change to
GRUB 2 first? Considering the OS can be installed to a USB device from
the CD I'm beginning to wonder why GRUB 2 matters and what exactly the
problem is.


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Re: Knoppix op USB stick m.b.v. VM

2012-08-05 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:14:18PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
 
 Hallo,
 
 Van Knoppix heb ik een .ISO image ( en mijn torrent share rating stijgt )
 
 Graag had ik die Knoppix op een USB memory stick.
 
 Volgens 
 http://knoppix.net/wiki/Category:Hard_drive_Installation#Flash_disk_installation
 is er gewoon een menuoptie voor.
 
 Om geen DVD te verbranden,
 wil ik de conversie met behulp van een Virtual Machine doen.
 
 In virtualbox heb ik nog niets gevonden dat de USBstick op /dev/sdc
 als disk gebruikt moet worden.
 
 Van qemu weet ik dat ie wel zo iets kan,
 maar van qemu heb ik alleen textmode gebruikt.
 En heb dus wat (koudwater)vrees of gaat lukken de grafische knoppix.

Update:

Qemu en het grafische van Knoppix gaat GOED.

Ik mag/moet op zoek naar een 16G USB stick.

 
 Nu ik dus aan een twee Virtual Machine programma ga beginnen, wat vragen:
 
 * Zou Virtual Box wel een /dev/sdX als disk kunnen gebruiken?
 * Wat zijn jullie ervaringen met qemu en grafische emulatie?
 * Welke andere V.M. techniek zou voor deze toepassing geschikt zijn?
 

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Re: knoppix vs grml (free software mini pi)

2012-02-17 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:56:44 -0600
green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joe wrote at 2012-02-16 13:50 -0600:
  A lot of the time, Knoppix will run a 'difficult' bit of hardware,
  but using mainstream modules that the Debian installer has not seen
  the need for. It is (mostly) then a matter of tweaking the Debian
  installation to match.
 
 Do you consider Knoppix hardware detection better than in grml?

Don't know, I haven't tried that one. So far, Knoppix and the Debian
install CD have done everything I've needed. We move on when we find a
need to...

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Re: knoppix vs grml (free software mini pi)

2012-02-16 Thread green
Joe wrote at 2012-02-16 13:50 -0600:
 A lot of the time, Knoppix will run a 'difficult' bit of hardware, but
 using mainstream modules that the Debian installer has not seen the
 need for. It is (mostly) then a matter of tweaking the Debian
 installation to match.

Do you consider Knoppix hardware detection better than in grml?


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Re: Debian-knoppix: imposible guardar configuraci�n de sonido

2012-02-10 Thread Sebas
A mi si que me ha funcionado el tema de modificar el archivo
manualmente...  Ahora, yo uso la version 6.7.
No sabria decirte mucho mas.
Saludos


Re: Repositorios para knoppix

2011-11-28 Thread Pedro Palma Bustos
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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-04 Thread Alex Mestiashvili

On 05/03/2011 05:04 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote:

Alex Mestiashvili wrote:

run from time to time
update-pciids


Is that something to do in old stable as well?

I just checked cron jobs and nothing is there to do this.


don't think that it has something to do with cron .

sometimes  lspci doesn't give you correct information about hardware , 
in such case update-pciids can help .

from manual page :
 update-pciids fetches the current version of the pci.ids file from the 
primary distribution site and installs it.


Regards ,
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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 03 May 2011 21:34:13 +0300, David wrote in message 
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  Knoppix can be installed to a hard drive, but that is not
  recommended, and I can confirm it is unmaintainable. You throw it
  away and install the next version. Some people claim this is also
  necessary with Ubuntu.
 
 I started with Knoppix, liked it, did the HD install. Was just fine.
 
 Until I discovered upgrading and apt. While I still have a few
 Knopper-isms around, I can say I am running Sid. I would get rid of
 those few as they are no longer needed or functioning if I new how
 (dependency problems with Sid packages!).

..you want to discover aptitude. ;o)

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Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all,

just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the KNOPPIX-
DVD is very good. 

Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by debian? 
And if not, why not?

Greetings

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Alex Mestiashvili

On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hi all,

just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the KNOPPIX-
DVD is very good.

Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by debian?
And if not, why not?

Greetings

Hans


   

run from time to time
update-pciids

I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other live 
cds use more recent software from unstable .


Regards ,
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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
 On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
  KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
 
  Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
  debian? And if not, why not?

 I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other live
 cds use more recent software from unstable .

No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is 
exceptionally good at hardware recognition.

But sorry, Hans-J.  I don't know the reason!

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:45:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
 On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
  KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
 
  Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
  debian? And if not, why not?

 I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other live
 cds use more recent software from unstable .
 
 No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is
 exceptionally good at hardware recognition.

(...)

Well, featuring a good hardware recognition is closely related to use the 
most recent versions of the kernel and firmwares so Alex statement makes 
a lot of sense ;-)

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
   

run from time to time
update-pciids


Is that something to do in old stable as well?

I just checked cron jobs and nothing is there to do this.

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011 schrieb Camaleón:
 On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:45:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
  On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
   just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
   KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
   
   Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
   debian? And if not, why not?
  
  I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other live
  cds use more recent software from unstable .
  
  No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is
  exceptionally good at hardware recognition.
 
 (...)
 
 Well, featuring a good hardware recognition is closely related to use the
 most recent versions of the kernel and firmwares so Alex statement makes
 a lot of sense ;-)
 
 Greetings,

Hmm, 

but as far as I know, Knoppix is based on debian/stable!

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Joe
On Tue, 3 May 2011 15:29:20 +0200
Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
 KNOPPIX- DVD is very good. 
 
 Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
 debian? And if not, why not?
 

I would assume there is some good reason involving licences. But Knoppix
is available to anyone, and I would expect other Debian users will do
what I do, and run Knoppix (and Ubuntu) on problematic hardware, to see
what is necessary for it to work with standard Debian.

Both distributions are very useful troubleshooting tools, because they
are so close to Debian (it's not much help to know that a bit of
'difficult' hardware works with Windows), and I have kept one of the
last CD versions of Knoppix for use on older machines which do not have
a DVD drive. While it isn't explicitly a 'rescue' distribution, it does
have most, if not all, of the necessary tools.

Knoppix can be installed to a hard drive, but that is not recommended,
and I can confirm it is unmaintainable. You throw it away and install
the next version. Some people claim this is also necessary with Ubuntu.

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:58:31 Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:45:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
  On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
   just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
   KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
  
   Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
   debian? And if not, why not?
 
  I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other live
  cds use more recent software from unstable .
 
  No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is
  exceptionally good at hardware recognition.

 (...)

 Well, featuring a good hardware recognition is closely related to use the
 most recent versions of the kernel and firmwares so Alex statement makes
 a lot of sense ;-)

And the reason that I have found Ubuntu less good on hardware recognition 
is...?  It prides itself on being up to date.

Lisi


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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Chen Wei
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:29:20PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the KNOPPIX-
 DVD is very good. 
 
 Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by debian? 
 And if not, why not?
Do you mean KNOPPIX discovers more hardware than debian, or KNOPPIX shows
the hardware recognition process in a more user friendly way?



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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:09:09 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

 Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011 schrieb Camaleón:
 On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:45:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
  On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
   just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on
   the KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
   
   Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used
   by debian? And if not, why not?
  
  I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other
  live cds use more recent software from unstable .
  
  No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is
  exceptionally good at hardware recognition.
 
 (...)
 
 Well, featuring a good hardware recognition is closely related to use
 the most recent versions of the kernel and firmwares so Alex statement
 makes a lot of sense ;-)
 
 
 Hmm,
 
 but as far as I know, Knoppix is based on debian/stable!

Squeeze has kernel 2.6.32 and Knoppix 2.6.36/2.6.37¹ so that's a 
difference.

¹ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/knoppix/packages.txt

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 03 May 2011 16:42:07 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:58:31 Camaleón wrote:
 On Tue, 03 May 2011 15:45:36 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Tuesday 03 May 2011 15:07:03 Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
  On 05/03/2011 03:29 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
   just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on
   the KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
  
   Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used
   by debian? And if not, why not?
 
  I think that the difference is only that knoppix , grml and other
  live cds use more recent software from unstable .
 
  No, I disagree.  As Hans-J says, I have always found that Knoppix is
  exceptionally good at hardware recognition.

 (...)

 Well, featuring a good hardware recognition is closely related to use
 the most recent versions of the kernel and firmwares so Alex statement
 makes a lot of sense ;-)
 
 And the reason that I have found Ubuntu less good on hardware
 recognition is...?  It prides itself on being up to date.

I guess that Ubuntu applies many patches on their own packages and also, 
LTS releases should have not-so-up-to-date kernel version.

What I mean is that, regardless of the distribution, having an updated 
kernel solves many issues, mostly related to hardware detection/problems.

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 03 May 2011 16:51:20 Chen Wei wrote:
 On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:29:20PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  just a simple question: I discovered the hardware recognition on the
  KNOPPIX- DVD is very good.
 
  Is this a personal development by Klaus Knopper? Is it also used by
  debian? And if not, why not?

 Do you mean KNOPPIX discovers more hardware than debian, or KNOPPIX shows
 the hardware recognition process in a more user friendly way?

It recognises more hardware.

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Re: Knoppix and debian

2011-05-03 Thread David Baron
 Knoppix can be installed to a hard drive, but that is not recommended,
 and I can confirm it is unmaintainable. You throw it away and install
 the next version. Some people claim this is also necessary with Ubuntu.

I started with Knoppix, liked it, did the HD install. Was just fine.

Until I discovered upgrading and apt. While I still have a few Knopper-isms 
around, I can say I am running Sid. I would get rid of those few as they are 
no longer needed or functioning if I new how (dependency problems with Sid 
packages!).



Re: Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-28 Thread John Culleton
On Sunday 27 March 2011 17:44:22 Chris Brennan wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, John Culleton
 j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:

 Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to
 compile

  svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched
  from conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a
  cmake based system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake
  using apt-get. Is it cataloged under another name?
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 A quick search revealed this ...

 root@debian:~# aptitude search cmake
 p   cmake  
 - a cross-platform, open-source make system
 p   cmake-curses-gui   
 - curses based user interface for CMake (ccmake)
 p   cmake-data 
 - CMake data files (modules, templates and documentation)
 p   cmake-dbg  
 - debugging symbols for CMake
 p   cmake-doc  
 - extended documentation in various formats for CMake
 v   cmake-gui  
 - p   cmake-qt-gui 
   - Qt4 based user interface for CMake (cmake-gui)
 p   icmake 
 - Intelligent C-like MAKEr, or the ICce MAKE utility
 p   icmake-doc 
 - Documenation files for icmake
 root@debian:~# aptitude download cmake
 Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main cmake amd64
 2.8.4+dfsg.1-2 [4,247 kB]
 Fetched 4,247 kB in 13s (325 kB/s)
 root@debian:~#

I entered the identical command and got nothing in return. So I assume 
it is a repository problem with Knoppix. I'll ask on that side.

I assume I can use aptitude as an ordinary user, and not root. 
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Re: Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 28 mar 11, 09:17:42, John Culleton wrote:
 
 I assume I can use aptitude as an ordinary user, and not root. 

Of course, but it will fail on any command that requires root 
privileges. For simple searches apt-cache will be faster though ;)

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Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-27 Thread John Culleton
Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile 
svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from 
conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based 
system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it 
cataloged under another name?
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Re: Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-27 Thread Chris Brennan
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:

Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile
 svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from
 conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based
 system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it
 cataloged under another name?
 --
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 http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html


A quick search revealed this ...

root@debian:~# aptitude search cmake
p   cmake   - a
cross-platform, open-source make system
p   cmake-curses-gui- curses
based user interface for CMake (ccmake)
p   cmake-data  - CMake
data files (modules, templates and documentation)
p   cmake-dbg   -
debugging symbols for CMake
p   cmake-doc   -
extended documentation in various formats for CMake
v   cmake-gui   -
p   cmake-qt-gui- Qt4
based user interface for CMake (cmake-gui)
p   icmake  -
Intelligent C-like MAKEr, or the ICce MAKE utility
p   icmake-doc  -
Documenation files for icmake
root@debian:~# aptitude download cmake
Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main cmake amd64 2.8.4+dfsg.1-2
[4,247 kB]
Fetched 4,247 kB in 13s (325 kB/s)
root@debian:~#


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Re: Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-27 Thread Wayne Topa

On 03/27/2011 04:56 PM, John Culleton wrote:

Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile
svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from
conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based
system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it
cataloged under another name?


~$ apt-cache search cmake
cmake-curses-gui - curses based user interface for CMake (ccmake)
cmake-data - CMake data files (modules, templates and documentation)
cmake-dbg - debugging symbols for CMake
cmake-doc - extended documentation in various formats for CMake
cmake-qt-gui - Qt4 based user interface for CMake (cmake-gui)
cmake - a cross-platform, open-source make system


HTH
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Re: Cmake on Knoppix

2011-03-27 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/03/11 07:56, John Culleton wrote:
 Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile 
 svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from 
 conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based 
 system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it 
 cataloged under another name?


Have you tried the Knoppix repositories?

# KNOPPIX Sources
deb-src http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org ./
# KNOPPIX Precompiled binaries
deb http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org ./

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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 01 iun 10, 22:33:26, John Culleton wrote:
 
 I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not yet 
 appeared.

I assume you missed my reply [1] to your previous message so I am CCing 
you now.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg02551.html

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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-02 Thread John Culleton
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 02:49:18 you wrote:
 On Ma, 01 iun 10, 22:33:26, John Culleton wrote:
  I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not 
yet
  appeared.

 I assume you missed my reply [1] to your previous message so I 
am CCing
 you now.

 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg02551.html

 Regards,
 Andrei
Thanks for your reply. I used Knoppix because it was very  easy to 
install and came with a lot of useful software already, such as 
Open Office.  The install program is called 0wn which stands for 
zero work needed. My earlier experiences with e.g. Kubuntu were a 
pain, menu after menu after menu and little control over the disk 
partitioning. With Knoppix all I had to do was run cfdisk and then 
0wn.  I have posted the items you requested on my website:
http://wexfordpress.com/xorg.conf
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log.old

Another person might have a different experience. But when I 
popped a Knoppix disk in my wife's laptop and got a wireless 
connect with no grief I was sold. Don't mess with success is my 
motto.
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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-02 Thread Jordan Metzmeier

On 06/02/2010 10:04 AM, John Culleton wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I used Knoppix because it was very  easy to
install and came with a lot of useful software already, such as
Open Office.  The install program is called 0wn which stands for
zero work needed. My earlier experiences with e.g. Kubuntu were a
pain, menu after menu after menu and little control over the disk
partitioning. With Knoppix all I had to do was run cfdisk and then
0wn.  I have posted the items you requested on my website:
http://wexfordpress.com/xorg.conf
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log.old

Another person might have a different experience. But when I
popped a Knoppix disk in my wife's laptop and got a wireless
connect with no grief I was sold. Don't mess with success is my
motto.
   


Knoppix has its own list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-knoppix/ . Have 
you tried Debian and the Debian installer?


Re: Screen width on Knoppix install. Progress report.

2010-06-02 Thread John Culleton
On Wednesday 02 June 2010 02:49:18 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Ma, 01 iun 10, 22:33:26, John Culleton wrote:
  I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not 
yet
  appeared.

 I assume you missed my reply [1] to your previous message so I 
am CCing
 you now.

 [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg02551.html

 Regards,
 Andrei
Making progress.
The default screen layout is 1600 x900. I switched to 1024x768 
and the whole screen is usable, including the task bar. But the 
screen background is now in the lower right hand corner with black 
bands above and to the left. The black areas are however usable. 

The remaining task is adjusting the background image to fill the 
whole screen. hints welcome.

BTW Compiz is running. This is a new product to me. 

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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install. Progress report.

2010-06-02 Thread Freeman
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 10:57:01AM -0400, John Culleton wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 June 2010 02:49:18 Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Ma, 01 iun 10, 22:33:26, John Culleton wrote:
   I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not 
 yet
   appeared.
 
  I assume you missed my reply [1] to your previous message so I 
 am CCing
  you now.
 
  [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg02551.html
 
  Regards,
  Andrei
 Making progress.
 The default screen layout is 1600 x900. I switched to 1024x768 
 and the whole screen is usable, including the task bar. But the 
 screen background is now in the lower right hand corner with black 
 bands above and to the left. The black areas are however usable. 
 
 The remaining task is adjusting the background image to fill the 
 whole screen. hints welcome.
 
 BTW Compiz is running. This is a new product to me. 
 

It is likely the compbiz desktop size setting. You should change it to the
actual size of your monitor.  It is, I think, at the top of the second tab
of the compbiz settings dialog.  It usually doesn't adjust to wide screens
automatically.

Can't tell you exactly where the settings are. Were this a compbiz list,
they could.

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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-02 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

John Culleton wrote:

On Wednesday 02 June 2010 02:49:18 you wrote:

On Ma, 01 iun 10, 22:33:26, John Culleton wrote:
I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not 

yet

appeared.
I assume you missed my reply [1] to your previous message so I 

am CCing

you now.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg02551.html

Regards,
Andrei
Thanks for your reply. I used Knoppix because it was very  easy to 
install and came with a lot of useful software already, such as 
Open Office.  The install program is called 0wn which stands for 
zero work needed. My earlier experiences with e.g. Kubuntu were a 
pain, menu after menu after menu and little control over the disk 
partitioning. With Knoppix all I had to do was run cfdisk and then 
0wn.  I have posted the items you requested on my website:

http://wexfordpress.com/xorg.conf
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log
and
http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log.old

Another person might have a different experience. But when I 
popped a Knoppix disk in my wife's laptop and got a wireless 
connect with no grief I was sold. Don't mess with success is my 
motto.


Which version of Knoppix is that 6.2.1?

Hugo


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Re: Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 02 iun 10, 10:04:12, John Culleton wrote:
 I have posted the items you requested on my website:
 http://wexfordpress.com/xorg.conf
 and
 http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log
 and
 http://wexfordpress.com/Xorg.0.log.old
 
I can spot nothing wrong there, but I'm not sure I can see the whole 
picture. I think you need help from Knoppix experts about this.

 Another person might have a different experience. But when I 
 popped a Knoppix disk in my wife's laptop and got a wireless 
 connect with no grief I was sold. Don't mess with success is my 
 motto.

I have another: Use the right tool for the right job. You should read
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Category:Hard_drive_Installation, especially 
the last paragraph. That is what got me to Debian ;)

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Andrei
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Screen width on Knoppix install.

2010-06-01 Thread John Culleton
I installed Knoppix, a Debian derivative, on my stepson's 
computer. Everything runs fine. But the screen background does 
not cover the entire area of his flat screen monitor which 
measures roughly 17 1/2 inches x 9 7/8 inches. The bottom button 
bar extends all the way to the left but stops at the right edge of 
the screen background.

Do I need to fiddle with xorg.conf or is there another way to correct 
the dimensions of the screen image?

A similar installation on an HP Pavillion laptop with a more 
squarish screen has no such problem. 

I ask here because my message to the Knoppix list has not yet 
appeared.
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Japanese KNOPPIX is a laucher of virtual appliance for Debian and Ubuntu

2009-12-14 Thread Kuniyasu Suzaki

Dear,

Japanese KNOPPIX6.2DVD includes OS Circular which is a kind of virtual 
appliance.
http://www.rcis.aist.go.jp/project/knoppix/knoppix62DVD-en.html
OS Circular offers disk images of Debian and Ubuntu with LBCAS (LoopBack Content
Addressable Storage). It enables us to boot Debian or Ubuntu on KVM or KQEMU 
without installation.
The disk images of Debian and Ubuntu are updated weekly and allow to roll-back 
to previous images.
Please try. :-)

  http://openlab.ring.gr.jp/oscircular/
  Current Transferable OS (weekly updated)
English Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic20091109 -
English Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty20090508 - 20091030
English Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid  20081107 - 20090501
English Debian 5.0  Lenny 20081107 -

The deb packages are downloadable from following. You can install on your 
Debian or Ubuntu.
 binary
 
http://www.rcis.aist.go.jp/project/knoppix/download/httpfusevm-scripts_0.1-8_all.deb
 http://www.rcis.aist.go.jp/project/knoppix/download/httpstoraged_1.2-1_i386.deb
 source
 
http://www.rcis.aist.go.jp/project/knoppix/download/httpfusevm-script_0.1-8-src.zip
 http://www.rcis.aist.go.jp/project/knoppix/download/httpstoraged_1.2-1-src.zip

The optimization was presented at Linux Symposium 2009 (Montreal).
 Kuniyasu Suzaki, Kengo Iijima, Toshiki Yagi, Nguyen Anh Quynh, and Yoshihito 
Watanabe 
 Effect of readahead and file system block reallocation for LBCAS (LoopBack 
Content Addressable Storage)
 http://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2009/ols2009-pages-275-286.pdf

# Japanese KNOPPIX6.2DVD is customized by LCAT(Live CD Acceleration Tool kit) 
and makes quick boot.
# The YouTube Video shows it could boot 3 times faster than the original. It 
works for launcher of virtual appliance.
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAd_dnY8ltI

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Re: Final Divorce from Knoppix HDinstall

2009-06-24 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 01:00:13 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org 
wrote:
  I started out with a hd install of Knoppix 3.3. This was excellent,
  simple to install (though getting sound a ADSL pptp was tricky at first!)
  I used that happily until I discovered apt-get updates and upgrades. The
  system has been steadily upgraded to Sid, 2.6.30 custom kerenel, KDE
  4.2.2, etc.
 
  I have two lingering reminders of the original Knoppix: The initial
  bootup calls is Knoppix 2.78--this text is in /sbin/init. And the welcome
  message after a console login: Welcome to knoppix 3.3. I would not mind
  get rid of these, possibly placing my own text (or Debian's).
 
  Dpkg-divert is a nifty, mischevous and dangerous toy that plays all kinds
  of magic and I have zillions of entries there, mostly obselete or
  non-existant packages. I used it myself to protect nvidia's libglx.so and
  my custom startkde for a while. I see no init.dpkg-dist file or the like,
  however.

 You should clean up the obsolete diversions.
Yes, I would love to. Is there some script to do this. One by one, there are 
simply too many of them. The normal sysvinit is probably among them though I 
have not found the diverted file to check it.

  How do I get the Debian welcomes and init? (and should this be done?--I
  have most recent init-scripts and such)

 /sbin/init is in the sysvinit package, although Knoppix might have
 diverted it.  I vaguely remember that old Knoppix versions used to boot
 with init=/etc/init added to the kernel commandline, so you may want
 to check for that too.

 The welcome text is in /etc/motd, and you can change it as you please.
 If you want to follow Debian's default, make /etc/motd a symlink to
 /var/run/motd and create /etc/motd.tail containing only a newline
 character.
I have symlink /etc/modtd and /etc/motd.static. Changed it to my own message. 
Thanks!


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Final Divorce from Knoppix HDinstall

2009-06-23 Thread David Baron
I started out with a hd install of Knoppix 3.3. This was excellent, simple to 
install (though getting sound a ADSL pptp was tricky at first!) I used that 
happily until I discovered apt-get updates and upgrades. The system has been 
steadily upgraded to Sid, 2.6.30 custom kerenel, KDE 4.2.2, etc.

I have two lingering reminders of the original Knoppix: The initial bootup 
calls is Knoppix 2.78--this text is in /sbin/init. And the welcome message 
after a console login: Welcome to knoppix 3.3. I would not mind get rid of 
these, possibly placing my own text (or Debian's).

Dpkg-divert is a nifty, mischevous and dangerous toy that plays all kinds of 
magic and I have zillions of entries there, mostly obselete or non-existant 
packages. I used it myself to protect nvidia's libglx.so and my custom 
startkde for a while. I see no init.dpkg-dist file or the like, however.

How do I get the Debian welcomes and init? (and should this be done?--I have 
most recent init-scripts and such)



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Re: Final Divorce from Knoppix HDinstall

2009-06-23 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-06-23 21:23 +0200, David Baron wrote:

 I started out with a hd install of Knoppix 3.3. This was excellent, simple to 
 install (though getting sound a ADSL pptp was tricky at first!) I used that 
 happily until I discovered apt-get updates and upgrades. The system has been 
 steadily upgraded to Sid, 2.6.30 custom kerenel, KDE 4.2.2, etc.

 I have two lingering reminders of the original Knoppix: The initial bootup 
 calls is Knoppix 2.78--this text is in /sbin/init. And the welcome message 
 after a console login: Welcome to knoppix 3.3. I would not mind get rid of 
 these, possibly placing my own text (or Debian's).

 Dpkg-divert is a nifty, mischevous and dangerous toy that plays all kinds of 
 magic and I have zillions of entries there, mostly obselete or non-existant 
 packages. I used it myself to protect nvidia's libglx.so and my custom 
 startkde for a while. I see no init.dpkg-dist file or the like, however.

You should clean up the obsolete diversions.

 How do I get the Debian welcomes and init? (and should this be done?--I 
 have 
 most recent init-scripts and such)

/sbin/init is in the sysvinit package, although Knoppix might have
diverted it.  I vaguely remember that old Knoppix versions used to boot
with init=/etc/init added to the kernel commandline, so you may want
to check for that too.

The welcome text is in /etc/motd, and you can change it as you please.
If you want to follow Debian's default, make /etc/motd a symlink to
/var/run/motd and create /etc/motd.tail containing only a newline
character.

Sven


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install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread yordanisp

Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix 6


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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Felix Perez
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix
 6


Estimado una cosa es que sea de Cuba y le cueste encontrar
información, aunque parece no ser su caso, pero de ahí a pedir en una
lista de Debian info para instalar Konppix, yo personalmente lo veo
mal.  Si usted tiene acceso a Internet por lo que veo, le contestare
como a cualquier colistero novato de cualquier lugar del mundo.

Busca en google

luego con tiempo te recomiendo los siguientes enlaces.
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http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette
http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista

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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix
 6



hace muuuchos años que no instalo un knoppix, pero traía un script
knx-hdinstall (o algo así). De todas formas cuando entrabas la primera
vez lanzaba el navegador y tenía como página principal la ayuda de
knoppix donde estaba, entre otras cosas, esa información.
No se cuanto pueda haber cambiado el knoppix desde entonces (creo que
era el 3,7 el último que puse)


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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread David Reese
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix
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Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

Basta con entrar a

www.knoppix.org

y descargar los manuales
pero aun asi...
La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

knoppix-install

en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
encuentras en dos click.

Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

Un Abrazo GNU a todos y que la pasen super siempre!!! ;o)


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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Alberto Vicat

David Reese escribió:

El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:

Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix
6


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Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

Basta con entrar a

www.knoppix.org

y descargar los manuales
pero aun asi...
La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

knoppix-install

en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
encuentras en dos click.

Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

Un Abrazo GNU a todos y que la pasen super siempre!!! ;o)


David, fijate en la dirección del que pregunta, y en los sitios que 
promociona al pié. Son .cu y tengo entendido que tienen acceso a 
correo electrónico pero no (o muy limitado) a navegar.


Saludos





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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread yordanisp

Alberto Vicat albertovi...@gmail.com escribió:


David Reese escribió:

El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar  
el knoppix

6


gracias de antemano

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Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

Basta con entrar a

www.knoppix.org

y descargar los manuales
pero aun asi...
La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

knoppix-install

en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
encuentras en dos click.

Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

Un Abrazo GNU a todos y que la pasen super siempre!!! ;o)


David, fijate en la dirección del que pregunta, y en los sitios que  
promociona al pié. Son .cu y tengo entendido que tienen acceso a  
correo electrónico pero no (o muy limitado) a navegar.


Saludos





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Gracias a todos por la atencion prestada a mi correo. yo en realidad  
no tengo casi limitaciones para navegar en internet y conozco las  
reglas de la lista. simplemente he hecho esa pregunta pq en todas esas  
páginas a las que hacen referencia no he encontrado como instalar  
knoppix 6. Hasta las versiones 5x era de esta forma: knoppix-installer  
cosa que no sucede con la v6. Y pense que siendo knoppix una distro  
basada en debian y con la cantidad de usuarios cultos y educados que  
posee pues alguno daría solución a mi pregunta sin armar el dichoso  
debate fuera de las reglas de la lista.


Un saludo a todos los amantes del software libre y usuarios de debian

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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 15:21,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Alberto Vicat albertovi...@gmail.com escribió:

 David Reese escribió:

 El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu
 escribió:

 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el
 knoppix
 6


 gracias de antemano

 __
 Yordanis Peláez Figueroa
 admin           DME Santo Domingo, Villa Clara.
 e-mail          yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu
 jabber          yordan...@vcl.rimed.cu
 web             http://www.yordanisp.3a2.com
 Telef           0142-402517
 Ubuntu User    #26077
 GNU/Linux user #459987 (http://counter.li.org)
 __

 Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

 Basta con entrar a

 www.knoppix.org

 y descargar los manuales
 pero aun asi...
 La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

 knoppix-install

 en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
 Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
 encuentras en dos click.

 Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
 Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
 asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
 Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
 de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

 Un Abrazo GNU a todos y que la pasen super siempre!!! ;o)

 David, fijate en la dirección del que pregunta, y en los sitios que
 promociona al pié. Son .cu y tengo entendido que tienen acceso a correo
 electrónico pero no (o muy limitado) a navegar.

 Saludos





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 tengo casi limitaciones para navegar en internet y conozco las reglas de la
 lista. simplemente he hecho esa pregunta pq en todas esas páginas a las que
 hacen referencia no he encontrado como instalar knoppix 6. Hasta las
 versiones 5x era de esta forma: knoppix-installer cosa que no sucede con la
 v6. Y pense que siendo knoppix una distro basada en debian y con la cantidad
 de usuarios cultos y educados que posee pues alguno daría solución a mi
 pregunta sin armar el dichoso debate fuera de las reglas de la lista.

 Un saludo a todos los amantes del software libre y usuarios de debian


todas las instalaciones de linux tienen los mismos pasos básicos:
1. particiones
2. elegir paquetes (knoppix ya los eligió por vos)
3. usuarios
4. configuración de hardware (esto puede ir en cualquier orden)
Y en el caso de knoppix (otra ves, usé hasta la versión 3,7 o
anterior) era un script de bash el instalador, hacía esas preguntas y
luego copiaba el cd a las particiones.
Entonces, si tenés por ahí algún cd de knoppix 5, ese script te
/debería/ funcionar todavía. Sería cuestión de copiarlo, arrancar con
knoppix6 y correrlo. Previo backup de todo lo que puedas lamentar que
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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Felix Perez
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 15:01, David Reese drees...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el knoppix
 6





 Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

 Basta con entrar a

 www.knoppix.org

 y descargar los manuales
 pero aun asi...
 La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

 knoppix-install

 en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
 Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
 encuentras en dos click.

 Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
 Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
 asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
 Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
 de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

Estimado, si se pierde mucho fomentando la flojera o creando nuevos
vampiros que no respetan la lista y solo buscan soporte técnico
gratis, pues bien, la persona que pregunta si tiene acceso a internet,
tiene blog, jabber, etc, es decir, supongo que tiene acceso a internet
sin restricciones y la experiencia para buscar, no como el caso de los
otros listeros cubanos que solo tienen acceso a correo, y mas encima
con la limitación de adjuntos con 512Kb, ¿no puede, no quizo o no supo
buscar?  Ayudate que te ayudaras.

¿Alguien leyó su firma?

Solo exprese mi opinión.

Saludos.

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Re: install knoppix 6

2009-03-04 Thread Felix Perez
El día 4 de marzo de 2009 15:21,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu escribió:
 Alberto Vicat albertovi...@gmail.com escribió:

 David Reese escribió:

 El día 4 de marzo de 2009 12:18,  yordan...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu
 escribió:

 Hola, alguien puede darme una url donde se explique como instalar el
 knoppix
 6


 Mira que encontrar información de Knoppix es muy facil jejejeje

 Basta con entrar a

 www.knoppix.org

 y descargar los manuales
 pero aun asi...
 La última vez que lo llegue a instalar era con el comando

 knoppix-install

 en modo root o simplemente con sudo...
 Te recomendaria buscar en google como cualquier persona ya que lo
 encuentras en dos click.

 Tambien aprovecho para responder al amigo felix...
 Yo sé que para pedir la informacion es el lugar incorrecto, pero aun
 asi yo creo que nadie pierde si conoce la respuesta y le responde...
 Entiendo las reglas y las aplico, pero no voy a llevar esto al punto
 de no ayudar a alguien solo porque se equivocó de sitio...

 Un Abrazo GNU a todos y que la pasen super siempre!!! ;o)

 David, fijate en la dirección del que pregunta, y en los sitios que
 promociona al pié. Son .cu y tengo entendido que tienen acceso a correo
 electrónico pero no (o muy limitado) a navegar.



 Gracias a todos por la atencion prestada a mi correo. yo en realidad no
 tengo casi limitaciones para navegar en internet y conozco las reglas de la
 lista. simplemente he hecho esa pregunta pq en todas esas páginas a las que
 hacen referencia no he encontrado como instalar knoppix 6. Hasta las
 versiones 5x era de esta forma: knoppix-installer cosa que no sucede con la
 v6. Y pense que siendo knoppix una distro basada en debian y con la cantidad
 de usuarios cultos y educados que posee pues alguno daría solución a mi

Se le ha respondido de manera culta y educada, si es de su gusto o no
la respuesta ya es otro tema.

 pregunta sin armar el dichoso debate fuera de las reglas de la lista.

Dichoso debate,  usted es quien lo ha comenzado haciendo una
pregunta fuera de lugar y por otra parte ¿acaso no le gusta debatir?

Un saludo.

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Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX Solved!

2007-08-31 Thread Martin McCormick
Sometimes, I don't exactly feel like the brightest bulb
on the tree, ( insert your favorite euphemism for dull-wittedness.)

When I originally posted my problem and said that the
only thing the scripts that refused to run had in common was
that I had put them there, I was very close to the solution. It
wasn't how I set them up or anything, but that I didn't
realize links should be in every single runlevel directory.

When the run level goes up from 0 to 5, one must have
kill or start scripts in each rc directory. I had just put a start
script at rc2.d and a kill script at rc1.d. You must make the
links to kill your process at each run level below where it
starts and the links to start your process at every run level at
and above the level where you want it to start. When I did that,
it all came up like it should.

The rc script has comments explaining how scripts are
not started if there was not a K link below it. I then used find
to locate every start or kill link belonging to an application
that did work and that's when it hit me like a ton of bricks.

I made all the links from 0 through 6 and both processes
came up on boot for the first time on the next boot.

It is still too bad that one can not capture 100% of all
boot messages, and several of you have suggested various methods
to capture all the console messages which are good to know for
future intractable problems, but this one is solved. Many thanks
for helping me think.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
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Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX

2007-08-30 Thread Martin McCormick
Bob McGowan writes:
 During startup, /etc/inittab uses the /etc/init.d/rc script to run the
 various scripts in the rc?.d directories. It has a commented out line for
 debugging. If you uncomment it, from what I can see, it will tell you what
 it's doing. It looks like this will propagate to the scripts that it runs,
 so you may expect to see a lot of stuff printed during boot.

This turns out to be an extremely useful thing to know.
What actually happens, however, is the script doesn't execute
the starts and stops but echoes what it would have done. You can
run it that way even after the system is fully booted. You just
call it and supply the runlevel number as the first argument to
get some idea of what it is thinking. Of course, it works
perfectly every time and calls all existing scripts in the right
order.

What I don't have is a log of any rc2.d activity. I
think it all goes to the screen very fast. As a computer user
who happens to be blind, this isn't much use, but these things
usually go too fast for anybody to read.

On some UNIX systems, such messages as Starting secure
shell, etc, are logged as the daemons fire up. On this system,
/etc/init.d/ssh does, in fact, echo such a message but that's
one of the 2 scripts I can't get to start during boot. Something
is still happening to those 2 scripts when the sequence reaches
them and there is no log trace anywhere as to what it was.

As I originally said, Oralux is a KNOPPIX distribution
but can be installed as Debian on the hard disk.

Can anybody think of any way to add enough verbosity to
the logging of the boot process to try to trap what is not
happening?

The other interesting thing I have noticed about this
system is that it doesn't log any ALSA messages about what sound
card is in use, etc. The sound does appear to be in working
order as aplay and the speech synthesizer both work (not at the
same time because of the sound card.)

When I usually install Linux, I use a serial console.
That is not an option as there are no native serial ports on
this system. I need every screen message to go to a file
somewhere and that may tell me something new.

I think when I finally fix the problem, I will have
learned a lot, but I've been about 2 minutes from solving it for
the last 5 days.:-)

Martin McCormick


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Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX

2007-08-30 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:53:42AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
 
   When I usually install Linux, I use a serial console.
 That is not an option as there are no native serial ports on
 this system. I need every screen message to go to a file
 somewhere and that may tell me something new.
 

If you have a paralell port you could print to a printer with a paralell
port and find a way to get that read.  Or, if the box has USB, you could
hook up a usb/serial adapter and use that.  See the
remote-serial-console-HOWTO for details.

Doug.


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Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX

2007-08-30 Thread Martin McCormick
Douglas A. Tutty writes:
 If you have a paralell port you could print to a printer with a paralell
 port and find a way to get that read.  Or, if the box has USB, you could
 hook up a usb/serial adapter and use that.  See the
 remote-serial-console-HOWTO for details.

Great ideas. The system in question has one of each. I
might even be able to figure out how to feed the paralell port
in to another system as I do have some other Linux boxes with
paralell ports. I think all but the oldest P.C.'s can receive
through their parallel ports. If I am not mistaken, that was the
operating principle behind the LapLink system.

Thank you.

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Systems Engineer
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All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX

2007-08-28 Thread Martin McCormick
I installed the newest and probably last Oralux KNOPPIX
distribution from a live CD to the hard disk on a laptop and it
almost works right. I must not have the right magic touch
because I needed to add 2 more startup scripts in /etc/rc2.d in
order to start a software speech synthesizer and to start sshd
which I do want to enable on bootup for remote login capability.
Neither script starts on its own during the run-level 2 phase of
booting though all other scripts with higher as well as lower
sequence numbers do successfully start. The only thing these 2
starts have in common is that I put them there. One references
../init.d/ssh which was already sitting in /etc/init.d. I
figured the link wasn't there as a security measure because you
don't need sshd if you don't want remote logins from other
hosts.

The other references ../initd/speechd-up which starts
the software synthesizer.

Both scripts are executable and will start and run
perfectly after the system boots and one su's to root and
manually starts them, but they act as if they aren't even there
when they should be starting.

I even made a third script called got_this_far which
does absolutely nothing but echo a line to standard output. The
boot process misses that one also.

By testing the scripts, I call them the way init would

/etc/rc2.d/S20ssh start

That works every single time I call it manually.

Any suggestions on how to see inside the logic that is
keeping these 3 scripts from running?

Thank you.

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Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group


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Re: All New rc2.d Scripts get Ignored. Debian from KNOPPIX

2007-08-28 Thread Bob McGowan

Martin McCormick wrote:

I installed the newest and probably last Oralux KNOPPIX
distribution from a live CD to the hard disk on a laptop and it
almost works right. I must not have the right magic touch
because I needed to add 2 more startup scripts in /etc/rc2.d in
order to start a software speech synthesizer and to start sshd
which I do want to enable on bootup for remote login capability.
Neither script starts on its own during the run-level 2 phase of
booting though all other scripts with higher as well as lower
sequence numbers do successfully start. The only thing these 2
starts have in common is that I put them there. One references
../init.d/ssh which was already sitting in /etc/init.d. I
figured the link wasn't there as a security measure because you
don't need sshd if you don't want remote logins from other
hosts.

The other references ../initd/speechd-up which starts
the software synthesizer.

Both scripts are executable and will start and run
perfectly after the system boots and one su's to root and
manually starts them, but they act as if they aren't even there
when they should be starting.

I even made a third script called got_this_far which
does absolutely nothing but echo a line to standard output. The
boot process misses that one also.

By testing the scripts, I call them the way init would

/etc/rc2.d/S20ssh start

That works every single time I call it manually.

Any suggestions on how to see inside the logic that is
keeping these 3 scripts from running?

Thank you.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer

OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group




Martin,

During startup, /etc/inittab uses the /etc/init.d/rc script to run the 
various scripts in the rc?.d directories.  It has a commented out line 
for debugging.  If you uncomment it, from what I can see, it will tell 
you what it's doing.  It looks like this will propagate to the scripts 
that it runs, so you may expect to see a lot of stuff printed during boot.


But you should be able to tell what it's doing just before your scripts 
are supposed to run.


You could also add a 'set -x' near the beginning of the 'rc' script and 
a 'set +x' at the end, to just see what it's doing.  The 'set' command 
only affects the running shell, not subshells.


You've already covered all the other possible problems I could think of, 
good luck in debugging.


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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-05 Thread Kent West

Kent West wrote:

Bob Proulx wrote:

Kent West wrote:
 
Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 
laptop. No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after 
about 35 minutes of testing.



If that is consistently 35 minutes then it makes me wonder how the
BIOS power saving settings are configured.  I would guess that the
BIOS is not seeing any input and therefore turning the machine off
because it thinks it is idle.  I believe that after the OS is booted
it takes over these things.  But memtest may not be programmed to do
this for that machine while the linux kernel in knoppix does.

Just a guess...

  
Not a bad guess. But if that's the case, it must be firm-coded into 
the BIOS; I could find no power-saving options in the BIOS setup 
screens. I had not thought about memtest86 perhaps looking idle to the 
system whereas sitting at a Knoppix boot prompt would not. Your idea 
gives me an idea for another test; tomorrow I'll see if I can load 
memtest86 but pause it so it doesn't check memory, and see if it still 
powers off at 35 mins; if so, that would seem to eliminate faulty RAM 
as being the cause of the power-down.


Thanks!


Nope; the BIOS is not shutting down the laptop.

I paused the memtest for five minutes, and then let it continue; the 
shutdown occurred five minutes later than it had been shutting down.


So I restarted the memtest, but this time changed the settings to start 
with test #7; now it shuts down within about one minute. (I tested this 
a couple of times; I also started with #6 once and it ran for a few 
minutes, then I changed it to test #7, and it ran for a minute or so and 
then shut down.)


So the memtest is somehow triggering the shutdown of the laptop.

Is this indicative of bad RAM, even though I've seen no other indication 
of bad RAM, or is it just a coincidence that some pattern during the 
random number test is triggering a power-off?


Hmmm

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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Kent West wrote:
 Nope; the BIOS is not shutting down the laptop.
 I paused the memtest for five minutes, and then let it continue; the 
 shutdown occurred five minutes later than it had been shutting down.

How unfortunate because that would have been easier to handle.

 So I restarted the memtest, but this time changed the settings to start 
 with test #7; now it shuts down within about one minute. (I tested this 
 a couple of times; I also started with #6 once and it ran for a few 
 minutes, then I changed it to test #7, and it ran for a minute or so and 
 then shut down.)
 
 So the memtest is somehow triggering the shutdown of the laptop.

That does sound like it.

 Is this indicative of bad RAM, even though I've seen no other indication 
 of bad RAM, or is it just a coincidence that some pattern during the 
 random number test is triggering a power-off?

I don't know what is in pattern #7 but if it runs on other machines
and fails to run on the laptop that would still seem to indicate a
problem on the laptop.  I would be very nervous about it.

Things may still be okay with the machine though.  You are not to root
cause yet and therefore the behavior not 100% explained does not mean
it is broken.  It does not succeed either and so that still leaves a
nervious suspicious behind.

How does it run on tests #8 and beyond?  Any other bad hits?

I would also try with different ram configurations.  How much ram is
installed?  If you have two dimms can you pull one, test, swap, test?
Does the failure happen with both dimms or just one?  If you only have
one dimm can you swap with another dimm from elsewhere and again
does it work or fail?  For speed of testing I would try the smallest
dimm that I could find.  A 64MB dimm should speed through memtest86
much faster than a 1GB dimm and you can more quickly get through a
full pass.

 Hmmm

Yes.  Hmm...

Good luck
Bob


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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 04:56:27PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
 OT for Debian, but you folks are knowledgeable ...
 
 Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop. 
 No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes 
 of testing.

Weird...

 The laptop does not power off when sitting at the Knoppix prompt (I 
 enter some random character or two to prevent time-out default boot), 
 nor does it power off after 35 minutes at the Windows (yech!) login 
 prompt or within Knoppix when it's running from the LiveCD.
 
 I've not seen any odd behaviour when running Knoppix, and very limited 
 oddness when running Windows (yet a couple of small things - easily 
 attributable to Windows flakiness); 

:-)  Difficult to tell sometimes :-)

 the guy who owns the laptop says it has frozen on him a few times and 
wouldn't power up once until left alone a couple of hours.

As if it needed a rest? 
 
 After spending a couple of days with the laptop, my gut instinct is that 
 the hardware is fine, but this consistent auto-poweroff 35 minutes into 
 a memtest86 run (with default parameters) raises a yellow flag in my brain.
 
 Anyone have any knowledge if maybe memtest86 might be triggering a 
 shut-down code, or if it's running into a bad memory cell?

Perhaps the poor thing is overheating?  Are the fans going during 
memtest? 

I presume that both Knoppix and Windows plays nice with ACPI and 
(probably) fans, but I suspect that memtest86 couldn't care less...

Just a derailed brain...
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OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Kent West

OT for Debian, but you folks are knowledgeable ...


Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop. 
No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes 
of testing.


The laptop does not power off when sitting at the Knoppix prompt (I 
enter some random character or two to prevent time-out default boot), 
nor does it power off after 35 minutes at the Windows (yech!) login 
prompt or within Knoppix when it's running from the LiveCD.


I've not seen any odd behaviour when running Knoppix, and very limited 
oddness when running Windows (yet a couple of small things - easily 
attributable to Windows flakiness); the guy who owns the laptop says it 
has frozen on him a few times and wouldn't power up once until left 
alone a couple of hours.


After spending a couple of days with the laptop, my gut instinct is that 
the hardware is fine, but this consistent auto-poweroff 35 minutes into 
a memtest86 run (with default parameters) raises a yellow flag in my brain.


Anyone have any knowledge if maybe memtest86 might be triggering a 
shut-down code, or if it's running into a bad memory cell?


Thanks!

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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Kent West wrote:

 OT for Debian, but you folks are knowledgeable ...
 
 
 Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop.
 No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes
 of testing.
 

I am no expert in this area. To understand the problem better, could you
tell me, if you are using anything like acpi and/or X? I would try the
following.

1) Disable acpi etc., I think you can do this by entering acpi=off at the
boot prompt.
2) Disable X and run memtest from command line.

Also what version of knoppix CD are you using?


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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Kent West wrote:
 Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop. 
 No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes 
 of testing.

If that is consistently 35 minutes then it makes me wonder how the
BIOS power saving settings are configured.  I would guess that the
BIOS is not seeing any input and therefore turning the machine off
because it thinks it is idle.  I believe that after the OS is booted
it takes over these things.  But memtest may not be programmed to do
this for that machine while the linux kernel in knoppix does.

Just a guess...

Bob


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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Kent West

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

Kent West wrote:

  

OT for Debian, but you folks are knowledgeable ...


Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop.
No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes
of testing.




I am no expert in this area. To understand the problem better, could you
tell me, if you are using anything like acpi and/or X?


Thanks for the response.

When you run memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD, neither Linux (the kernel) 
nor Debian (the OS) is involved (except perceptually perhaps, in that 
memtest86 is available as a Debian package). It's like dual-booting, 
only instead of dual-booting between something like Knoppix and Windows, 
you're dual-booting between Knoppix and a single application. So X and 
acpi parameters to the Linux kernel, etc, are irrelevant, but your 
suggestions demonstrate some good trouble-shooting skills on your part.


Again, thanks for the response; it's appreciated!

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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Kent West

Bob Proulx wrote:

Kent West wrote:
  
Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop. 
No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes 
of testing.



If that is consistently 35 minutes then it makes me wonder how the
BIOS power saving settings are configured.  I would guess that the
BIOS is not seeing any input and therefore turning the machine off
because it thinks it is idle.  I believe that after the OS is booted
it takes over these things.  But memtest may not be programmed to do
this for that machine while the linux kernel in knoppix does.

Just a guess...

  
Not a bad guess. But if that's the case, it must be firm-coded into the 
BIOS; I could find no power-saving options in the BIOS setup screens. I 
had not thought about memtest86 perhaps looking idle to the system 
whereas sitting at a Knoppix boot prompt would not. Your idea gives me 
an idea for another test; tomorrow I'll see if I can load memtest86 but 
pause it so it doesn't check memory, and see if it still powers off at 
35 mins; if so, that would seem to eliminate faulty RAM as being the 
cause of the power-down.


Thanks!

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Re: OT: knoppix memtest powers off after 35 mins

2007-07-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:49:51PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Kent West wrote:
  Running memtest86 from a Knoppix LiveCD on an HP pavilion ze4400 laptop. 
  No errors, but the laptop powers off consistently after about 35 minutes 
  of testing.
 
 If that is consistently 35 minutes then it makes me wonder how the
 BIOS power saving settings are configured.  I would guess that the
 BIOS is not seeing any input and therefore turning the machine off
 because it thinks it is idle.  I believe that after the OS is booted
 it takes over these things.  But memtest may not be programmed to do
 this for that machine while the linux kernel in knoppix does.
 
 Just a guess...

I agree with this. It bears some digging into the bios.

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Re: error when updating knoppix packets

2007-05-28 Thread Guimi

Ines Alvarez escribió:

Hello,

I must do an update of the knoppix packages and for that I used this order:


This is DEBIAN-user-SPANISH
Anyway the problem is trivial...


sudo apt-get update
(...)
W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org http://security.debian.org/ 
stable/updates Release: Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar 
porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1

(...)
it seems that it couldn't update correctly, right?


Right


How can I solve it?


http://www.guimi.net/index.php?pag_id=tec-docs/recetas/apt-key-gpg.html


Thank you and greetins


You're welcome... specially asking in spanish about Debian ;-)

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error when updating knoppix packets

2007-05-25 Thread Ines Alvarez

Hello,

I must do an update of the knoppix packages and for that I used this order:

sudo apt-get update

And I get this messages:

Imposible obtener
ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/stable/Release.gpg  No pude
conectarme a ftp.debian-unofficial.org:21 (88.198.196.36). - connect (111
Conexión rehusada)
Imposible obtener
ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/testing/Release.gpg  No pude
conectarme a ftp.debian-unofficial.org:21 (88.198.196.36). - connect (111
Conexión rehusada)
Imposible obtener
ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release.gpg
 No pude conectarme a ftp.debian-unofficial.org:21 (88.198.196.36). -
connect (111 Conexión rehusada)
Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release: Las firmas
siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está
disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org stable Release: Las firmas siguientes
no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible:
NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 NO_PUBKEY B5D0C804ADB11277
W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release: Las firmas
siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está
disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release: Las firmas
siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está
disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable Release: Las firmas
siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está
disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org experimental Release: Las firmas
siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está
disponible: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1
W: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas
E: Algunos archivos de índice no se han podido descargar, se han ignorado,
o se ha utilizado unos antiguos en su lugar.

it seems that it couldn't update correctly, right?

How can I solve it?

Thank you and greetins


Re: error when updating knoppix packets

2007-05-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 05:48:51PM +0200, Ines Alvarez wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I must do an update of the knoppix packages and for that I used this order:
 

Ines,

Knoppix no es Debian.  Tal vez tendras mejor respuesta si preguntas en
una lista de Knoppix.

Saludos,

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Re: error when updating knoppix packets

2007-05-25 Thread Ines Alvarez

Gracias Roberto,

intentaré encontrar una, busqué pero no vi ninguna que tuviera suficiente
actividad,

saludos

El día 25/05/07, Roberto C. Sánchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:


On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 05:48:51PM +0200, Ines Alvarez wrote:
 Hello,

 I must do an update of the knoppix packages and for that I used this
order:


Ines,

Knoppix no es Debian.  Tal vez tendras mejor respuesta si preguntas en
una lista de Knoppix.

Saludos,

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Arrancar /dev/md0 en knoppix

2007-03-28 Thread Carlos Luis Sánchez Bocanegra
Necesito levantar un raid instalado en mi servidor desde una knoppix (perdió
la original su fstab por error manual)

Intentándolo montar no ha habido forma de que me lo hiciera

Miré por aquí http://hup.hu/node/33250 e intenté hacerle un
  mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3
y el error es el siguiente
  mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address
Estuve mirando y parece que va por el udev de la knoppix, el caso que
filtreando por la red no encuentro información de ayuda para levantar un raid
desde live y poder pegar un fstab.

A su vez configuré el /etc/raidtab como indico abajo
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
chunk-size  64k
persistent-superblock   1
nr-spare-disks  0
  device  /dev/sda3
  raid-disk 0
  device  /dev/sdb3
  raid-disk 1

Pero ni por ellas, en todo habla de array de raid...miré y encontré algo por
http://www.geekcomix.com/cgi-bin/classnotes/wiki.pl?UNIX02/Install_Knoppix_On_A_Software_RAID

Pero no me ha servido de ayuda.includo he hecho un mknod /dev/md0 para ver
si había suerte con el raidtab indicado arriba.

Llevo parado unos días y prácticamente estoy planteando eliminar y reinstalar,
pero necesito los datos del array...alguna ayuda? gracias de antemano.
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Re: Arrancar /dev/md0 en knoppix

2007-03-28 Thread Juan Francés Rosillo

Hola

Traté de hacer lo mismo que tú tiempo atrás pero no encontré el modo... 
si te urge la recuperación... en mi caso SystemRescueCD 
(http://www.sysresccd.org) funcionó OK.


Aun con todas, posiblemente algun lector de la lista nos pueda ilustrar 
acerca del problema en la knoppix.



Saludos

Carlos Luis Sánchez Bocanegra escribió:

Necesito levantar un raid instalado en mi servidor desde una knoppix (perdió
la original su fstab por error manual)

Intentándolo montar no ha habido forma de que me lo hiciera

Miré por aquí http://hup.hu/node/33250 e intenté hacerle un
  mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3
y el error es el siguiente
  mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address
Estuve mirando y parece que va por el udev de la knoppix, el caso que
filtreando por la red no encuentro información de ayuda para levantar un raid
desde live y poder pegar un fstab.

A su vez configuré el /etc/raidtab como indico abajo
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
chunk-size  64k
persistent-superblock   1
nr-spare-disks  0
  device  /dev/sda3
  raid-disk 0
  device  /dev/sdb3
  raid-disk 1

Pero ni por ellas, en todo habla de array de raid...miré y encontré algo por
http://www.geekcomix.com/cgi-bin/classnotes/wiki.pl?UNIX02/Install_Knoppix_On_A_Software_RAID

Pero no me ha servido de ayuda.includo he hecho un mknod /dev/md0 para ver
si había suerte con el raidtab indicado arriba.

Llevo parado unos días y prácticamente estoy planteando eliminar y reinstalar,
pero necesito los datos del array...alguna ayuda? gracias de antemano.
  



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[Fwd: Re: Arrancar /dev/md0 en knoppix]

2007-03-28 Thread Carlos Luis Sánchez Bocanegra
Bueno, el procedimiento de esta tarde ha sido:

1º) Instalación a la 'antigua usanza' con ubuntu dapper...ya conoceis este
método.

2º) El reto es suponer una caida de un raid o algo parecido, debemos tratar de
tener un método que nos permita levantarlo desde una live en knoppix.

3º) La dificultad la he llevado a la lista de debian-user y tuve alguna
contestación. (Gracias Juan)
El resultado final y claro ejemplo de mi gran desconocimiento es:

A la desesperada monto el sistema en uno de los raid físico.

# mount /dev/sda3 /montaje

Y LO MONTA!!! y veo el sistema de particiones!!!. pero como ya me indicaron el
raid quedaría corrupto y ya no valdría...lo cual la conclusión sobre esto es
que si puedo recuperar pero a costa de perder el RAID.

SOLUCIÓN ALTERNATIVA:
Vía Guillermo.

¿Para que necesidad montar un RAID sobre el /?

La propuesta de solución que veo es montar el raid en los datos y en sistema
No mantener el raid

En conclusión
/ fuera del raid
/datos en raid.

/boot /dev/sda1 en ext3
/ /dev/sda3 en xfs
swap /dev/sda2
/dev/sda4 VOLUMEN FISICO RAID

/boot /dev/sdb1 en ext3
/opt /dev/sdb3 en xfs
swap /dev/sdb2
/dev/sdb4 VOLUMEN FISICO RAID

Luego en
/dev/md0 /datos xfs

Así el montaje del raid lo hago con la configuración correcta y sin problemas
del knoppix.


¿Qué opinais?.



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Re: Arrancar /dev/md0 en knoppix

2007-03-28 Thread Cristian Mitchell

El 28/03/07, Carlos Luis Sánchez Bocanegra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

Necesito levantar un raid instalado en mi servidor desde una knoppix (perdió
la original su fstab por error manual)

Intentándolo montar no ha habido forma de que me lo hiciera

Miré por aquí http://hup.hu/node/33250 e intenté hacerle un
  mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3
y el error es el siguiente
  mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such device or address
Estuve mirando y parece que va por el udev de la knoppix, el caso que
filtreando por la red no encuentro información de ayuda para levantar un raid
desde live y poder pegar un fstab.

A su vez configuré el /etc/raidtab como indico abajo
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
chunk-size  64k
persistent-superblock   1
nr-spare-disks  0
  device  /dev/sda3
  raid-disk 0
  device  /dev/sdb3
  raid-disk 1

Pero ni por ellas, en todo habla de array de raid...miré y encontré algo por
http://www.geekcomix.com/cgi-bin/classnotes/wiki.pl?UNIX02/Install_Knoppix_On_A_Software_RAID

Pero no me ha servido de ayuda.includo he hecho un mknod /dev/md0 para ver
si había suerte con el raidtab indicado arriba.

Llevo parado unos días y prácticamente estoy planteando eliminar y reinstalar,
pero necesito los datos del array...alguna ayuda? gracias de antemano.
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a ver que no entiendo bien que  paso

el raid estaba  andando dejo de andar por falla fisica o de software?
por algo que pusiste en el mail voy a suponer que es de configuracion

si es asi crear no vas a poder por que ya esta creado

tendrias que verificar que en cada particion de de cada disco esta
inde pendientemente todo bien.

con
cat /proc/mdstat
tiene que informarte si estan o no sincronizadas

si no es asi deves resincronisar las particiones probando con md1

y por ultimo si te dio ok el sincronizados deves montar /dev/md0 o 1 segun sea


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Fwd: Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-12-28 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Bernd,

there is no final solution to that problem yet, but there are ideas what might 
be the root cause of the problem. I forwarded you a response which I got on 
the debian-users list.

I checked the suspicion of the trunkated key sizes and it is wrong. I did not 
yet run the loopinfo tool, which is attached as well.

I case you find something out, please let me know. For me the issue is not 
terribly pressing, because it is just my backup and if really goes something 
wrong, accessing it from a sarge system instead of a Knoppix disk would be 
less convenient, but I would not have data loss.

Hope that helps...

Rainer

Am Mittwoch, 27. Dezember 2006 22:59 schrieben Sie:
 Hi Rainer,

 entschuldige die Störung. Ich habe im Thread

 http://www.elearnit.de/knoppix/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1595sid=c3a59c8bc47d5
2d8f9c6ddec7241691f

 gelesen, das Du Probleme beim Mounten eines mit Sarge erzeugten
 Cryptofilesystems mit Knoppix hast/hattest. Leider habe ich exakt das
 gleiche Problem. Soweit ich bisher herausgefunden habe, scheint es
 unabhängig vom eingesetzten Algorithmus zu sein - ich bin aber auch
 komplett ratlos.

 Der Thread hört leider ohne Lösung auf :(

 Hast Du bisher eine Lösung für das Problem gefunden, oder gibt es bisher
 keine Lösung?

 Wäre nett, wenn Du Dich mit ner kurzen Antwortmail melden würdest (auch
 wenns noch keine Lösung gibt), würde mir sehr weiterhelfen!

 Vielen Dank schonmal, frohe Feiertage  nen guten Rutsch,

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Subject: Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with 
Knoppix
Date: Samstag, 25. November 2006 15:55
From: Max Vozeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rainer Dorsch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Rainer,

On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 04:05:30PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 I did specify the -H rmd160, but it did not change anything,
 passphrase was ok, but same error message, when I tried to mount the
 file system.

 With losetup /dev/loop0, I got on Knoppix

 /dev/loop0: [0011]:9556 (/dev/sda5) encryption=CryptoAPI/blowfish-cbc

 On the sarge machine, which can mount the encrypted file system
 correctly, I got

 silverboxy:~# losetup /dev/loop0
 /dev/loop0: [000c]:6517 (/udev/mdisk5), encryption blowfish (type 18)
 silverboxy:~#

 That looks different and I assume that is the reason why I can't mount
 it with knoppix.

That could be. Some difference in the output is normal though:
The first output is from loop-AES patched losetup, the second by
standard losetup with Debian crypto patch. Both indicate that a
CryptoAPI cipher was used (type 18 == CryptoAPI).

 Can I find out when mounted on the Debian system, what the right
 parameters are?

I wrote a small tool some time ago to dump the actual settings
of an encrypted loop. I'm attaching it to this mail. You should be
able to build it by just calling make. Hopefully it can shed
light on the actual differences between the setups.

I think I have a suspicion though: The standard losetup in Debian
used to have a bug where it truncated keysizes to 128 bits without
any indication. I think this bug no longer exists, but it could be
that the version in sarge was still affected by it.

You can verify if this is the case if you try losetup -k 128 .. on
the sarge machine. If it decryptes correctly, it is very likely to
be affected by this bug. In that case you should be able to losetup
it on knoppix by saying -e blowfish128 -H rmd160. If that doesn't
work, feel free to send me the output of the loopinfo tool and we
can see if we can figure out the exact difference. Make sure to
strip the line that includes the encryption key though :-)

cheers,
Max

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Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-11-27 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Samstag, 25. November 2006 15:55 schrieb Max Vozeler:
 Hi Rainer,

 On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 04:05:30PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
  I did specify the -H rmd160, but it did not change anything,
  passphrase was ok, but same error message, when I tried to mount the
  file system.
 
  With losetup /dev/loop0, I got on Knoppix
 
  /dev/loop0: [0011]:9556 (/dev/sda5) encryption=CryptoAPI/blowfish-cbc
 
  On the sarge machine, which can mount the encrypted file system
  correctly, I got
 
  silverboxy:~# losetup /dev/loop0
  /dev/loop0: [000c]:6517 (/udev/mdisk5), encryption blowfish (type 18)
  silverboxy:~#
 
  That looks different and I assume that is the reason why I can't mount
  it with knoppix.

 That could be. Some difference in the output is normal though:
 The first output is from loop-AES patched losetup, the second by
 standard losetup with Debian crypto patch. Both indicate that a
 CryptoAPI cipher was used (type 18 == CryptoAPI).

  Can I find out when mounted on the Debian system, what the right
  parameters are?

 I wrote a small tool some time ago to dump the actual settings
 of an encrypted loop. I'm attaching it to this mail. You should be
 able to build it by just calling make. Hopefully it can shed
 light on the actual differences between the setups.

 I think I have a suspicion though: The standard losetup in Debian
 used to have a bug where it truncated keysizes to 128 bits without
 any indication. I think this bug no longer exists, but it could be
 that the version in sarge was still affected by it.

 You can verify if this is the case if you try losetup -k 128 .. on
 the sarge machine. If it decryptes correctly, it is very likely to
 be affected by this bug. In that case you should be able to losetup
 it on knoppix by saying -e blowfish128 -H rmd160. If that doesn't
 work, feel free to send me the output of the loopinfo tool and we
 can see if we can figure out the exact difference. Make sure to
 strip the line that includes the encryption key though :-)


Hi Max,

seems that you suspicion does not hold:

silverboxy:~# losetup -k 128 -e blowfish /dev/loop0 /udev/mdisk5
Password:
silverboxy:~# mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypto/
mount: you must specify the filesystem type
silverboxy:~# losetup -d /dev/loop0
silverboxy:~# losetup -k 256 -e blowfish /dev/loop0 /udev/mdisk5
Password:
silverboxy:~# mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypto/
silverboxy:~#

I try to run the loopinfo tool tomorrow.

If it turns out that recovering this setup becomes too difficult, I would be 
happy with any setup which works on sarge and knoppix at the same time.

Thanks,
Rainer

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Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-11-25 Thread Max Vozeler
Hi Rainer,

On Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 04:05:30PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 I did specify the -H rmd160, but it did not change anything,
 passphrase was ok, but same error message, when I tried to mount the
 file system.
 
 With losetup /dev/loop0, I got on Knoppix
 
 /dev/loop0: [0011]:9556 (/dev/sda5) encryption=CryptoAPI/blowfish-cbc
 
 On the sarge machine, which can mount the encrypted file system
 correctly, I got
 
 silverboxy:~# losetup /dev/loop0 
 /dev/loop0: [000c]:6517 (/udev/mdisk5), encryption blowfish (type 18) 
 silverboxy:~#
 
 That looks different and I assume that is the reason why I can't mount
 it with knoppix.

That could be. Some difference in the output is normal though: 
The first output is from loop-AES patched losetup, the second by
standard losetup with Debian crypto patch. Both indicate that a
CryptoAPI cipher was used (type 18 == CryptoAPI).

 Can I find out when mounted on the Debian system, what the right
 parameters are?

I wrote a small tool some time ago to dump the actual settings
of an encrypted loop. I'm attaching it to this mail. You should be
able to build it by just calling make. Hopefully it can shed 
light on the actual differences between the setups.

I think I have a suspicion though: The standard losetup in Debian
used to have a bug where it truncated keysizes to 128 bits without
any indication. I think this bug no longer exists, but it could be
that the version in sarge was still affected by it.

You can verify if this is the case if you try losetup -k 128 .. on
the sarge machine. If it decryptes correctly, it is very likely to
be affected by this bug. In that case you should be able to losetup
it on knoppix by saying -e blowfish128 -H rmd160. If that doesn't
work, feel free to send me the output of the loopinfo tool and we
can see if we can figure out the exact difference. Make sure to
strip the line that includes the encryption key though :-)

cheers,
Max


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installation från knoppix

2006-11-19 Thread tomas nilsson
Har installerat deb från knoppix livecd
Men en sak som irriterar är att varje gång en usb enhet monteras så blir 
skrivbordet fullt av ikoner för alla partitioner.
Nån som vet vilken conf fil som styr det hela??
Mvh 
Tomas



Re: installation från knoppix

2006-11-19 Thread Pär Lindén

tomas nilsson wrote:

Har installerat deb från knoppix livecd
Men en sak som irriterar är att varje gång en usb enhet monteras så blir 
skrivbordet fullt av ikoner för alla partitioner.

Nån som vet vilken conf fil som styr det hela??
Mvh 
	Tomas



  
Har du alltså installerat Knoppix på din hårddisk? Om så är fallet 
skulle jag till att börja med rekommendera dig att installera Kanotix 
(www.kanotix.com) istället, eftersom Knoppix inte är avsedd att 
installeras på hårddisk utan är tänkt som en Live-cd.



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Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-11-18 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Max,

Am Dienstag, 22. August 2006 18:02 schrieb Max Vozeler:
 Hi Rainer,

 On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 06:46:22PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
  What I did:
 
  On the Sarge side:
 
  modprobe blowfish
  modprobe cryptoloop
  losetup -k 256 -e blowfish /dev/loop0 /udev/mdisk5

 ...

  When it comes to knoppix now, I tried
 
  losetup -e blowfish256 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda5  # did not accept -k
  parameter mount -t ext3 /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypto
 
  Then I got the error message:
 
  EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,

 ...

 This is probably because of the different default hash functions in
 normal Debian losetup (package mount) and the loop-AES patched losetup
 used in Knoppix. The Sarge losetup uses rmd160 to hash the passphrase,
 whereas the loop-AES patched losetup on Knoppix probably uses sha512.
 You can try to explicitly specify rmd160 with the -H option, like
 losetup -e blowfish256 -H rmd160 /dev/loop0 ...

I did specify the -H rmd160, but it did not change anything, passphrase was 
ok, but same error message, when I tried to mount the file system.

With losetup /dev/loop0, I got on Knoppix

/dev/loop0: [0011]:9556 (/dev/sda5) encryption=CryptoAPI/blowfish-cbc

On the sarge machine, which can mount the encrypted file system correctly, I 
got

silverboxy:~# losetup /dev/loop0
/dev/loop0: [000c]:6517 (/udev/mdisk5), encryption blowfish (type 18)
silverboxy:~#

That looks different and I assume that is the reason why I can't mount it with 
knoppix.

Can I find out when mounted on the Debian system, what the right parameters 
are?

Thanks,
Rainer



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Knoppix NTFS file rescue tricks ?

2006-10-15 Thread Al Dykes

I'm about to play with a windows laptop that seems to have had a disk
malfunction.  I've used Knoppix to recover files from working disks
but this case may be more serious.  

Is there a HOW-TO for NTFS file recovery in Knoppix of is there even
another bootable distro that has recovery tools?

Thanks

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Re: Knoppix/Debian HD Install problem

2006-09-27 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Thursday 21 September 2006 11:25, John Graves wrote:
 I took what appears to be an unwise shortcut and installed Knoppix on
 the harddrive of a spare laptop.  It now appears that some portion of
 what is installed is in german.  Is there an easy way to either fix my
 installation or reinstall in English?


If you want to run Debian, install Debian from the get go. Knoppix-Debian or 
Ubuntu-Debian are not supported and will consume a lot of time in the end. 
Your best bet (in terms of time) is to reinstall Debian from the scratch.

raju


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Knoppix/Debian HD Install problem

2006-09-22 Thread John Graves
I took what appears to be an unwise shortcut and installed Knoppix on 
the harddrive of a spare laptop.  It now appears that some portion of 
what is installed is in german.  Is there an easy way to either fix my 
installation or reinstall in English?


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Re: Knoppix/Debian HD Install problem

2006-09-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I took what appears to be an unwise shortcut and installed Knoppix on 
 the harddrive of a spare laptop.  It now appears that some portion of 
 what is installed is in german.  Is there an easy way to either fix my 
 installation or reinstall in English?
 
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 Regards,
 
 John Graves

Though Knoppix is Debian based and many of us keep a disk handy for
rescue it is unlikely that we can help you. You might get better help
on the Knoppix forum. This problem might already be
documented/discussed on the forum.

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Re: Writting on encrypted partion with Debian sarge reading with Knoppix

2006-08-22 Thread Max Vozeler
Hi Rainer,

On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 06:46:22PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
 What I did:
 
 On the Sarge side:
 
 modprobe blowfish
 modprobe cryptoloop
 losetup -k 256 -e blowfish /dev/loop0 /udev/mdisk5
...

 When it comes to knoppix now, I tried
 
 losetup -e blowfish256 /dev/loop0 /dev/sda5  # did not accept -k parameter
 mount -t ext3 /dev/loop0 /mnt/crypto
 
 Then I got the error message:
 
 EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
...

This is probably because of the different default hash functions in
normal Debian losetup (package mount) and the loop-AES patched losetup
used in Knoppix. The Sarge losetup uses rmd160 to hash the passphrase,
whereas the loop-AES patched losetup on Knoppix probably uses sha512.
You can try to explicitly specify rmd160 with the -H option, like
losetup -e blowfish256 -H rmd160 /dev/loop0 ...

cheers,
Max


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