NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question
Hello all, this is the unimportant back story: I love games, I own an XBOX (save your boo's for later please, I enjoy it :)), and I used to play games on my PC (winNT style) I had heard about Wine, WineX, and other emulators (maybe not the best word, if you can suggest a better one, please inform me) that can and do run certain native WIN programs/games on Linux. I have also heard that there are some problems with these WIN applications. I have witnessed them myself, I cannot get my games to work. I know that this is my fault, and nobody elses. So, instead of trying to make them work, or even install in some circumstances; I have chosen to turn an old, dusty hard-drive I have lying around back into an XP system (maybe win2k, I have all their major releases). this is the meat of the question: Can I essentially: -detach my debian-installed drives -attach a blank drive (it would be the last IDE slot) -install XP onto that disk (letting XP muck around with the MBR (on it's own drive)) -re-attach the debian drives (leaving the XP drive attached, at the end of the drive order) -add some information to LILO (to point to the newly installed XP system) -choose what I want to do at boot-time: play games - or - everything else? Is this all possible? Or did I make something up, that is either way too complex, or simply not pratical? I'm aware that I could of left winNT on my computer, and THEN installed Linux, but I did not have the foresight to do this (stupid me:)). I am also aware that it is possible to install winNT after installing Linux/GNU, but I have heard (from the dual-boot howto at tldp.org, and other un-rememberable places (is that even a word?)) that it is complex. I am NOT asking for steps on how to accomplish this, I wouldn't do such a thing to you guys/gals; what I am asking is if it is possible, and if it is way too complex for a newbie like me to do. thank you all for your time, amg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:54 PM, amg wrote: Can I essentially: -detach my debian-installed drives -attach a blank drive (it would be the last IDE slot) -install XP onto that disk (letting XP muck around with the MBR (on it's own drive)) -re-attach the debian drives (leaving the XP drive attached, at the end of the drive order) That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. -add some information to LILO (to point to the newly installed XP system) See the bottom of the default /etc/lilo.conf, it has an example of booting another OS. Basically you want something like: other=/dev/hdb1 label=Win XP Everything else in there should be fine as-is. Then run lilo. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. Do you have experience in that it will? Or is this a more or less, beware this might happen. In other words, have you seen it happen? Are there steps I can take to avoid it? Making sure if I should wear protection (hardhat w/one of those electric lights on top - maybe galoches?) later on today (during the install), or just pop in the disc and sit back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:53:09 +1000, Corey Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:54 PM, amg wrote: Can I essentially: -detach my debian-installed drives -attach a blank drive (it would be the last IDE slot) -install XP onto that disk (letting XP muck around with the MBR (on it's own drive)) -re-attach the debian drives (leaving the XP drive attached, at the end of the drive order) That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. ..if it does get cranky etc, let it squeal etc itself onto /dev/hda, on reboot reclaim the master boot record, edit /etc/fstab to reflect your debian disks new home, and set up your boot loader to boot all from the /dev/hda MBR. Newer boxes allow several boot devices, so a bootloader in all disks bootloaders, will boot ok until all boot devices die. -add some information to LILO (to point to the newly installed XP system) See the bottom of the default /etc/lilo.conf, it has an example of booting another OS. Basically you want something like: other=/dev/hdb1 label=Win XP ..to hop to and between other bootloaders, use other=/dev/hda label=/dev/hda other=/dev/hdb label=/dev/hdb other=/dev/hdc label=/dev/hdc etc, on each disk in lilo, for grub, label becomes title, man|info grub for details. Everything else in there should be fine as-is. Then run lilo. ..heh, I had no need to touch grub the last 3 kernel updates. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 05:11 PM, Ashley Graham wrote: That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. Do you have experience in that it will? Or is this a more or less, beware this might happen. In other words, have you seen it happen? Are there steps I can take to avoid it? No, I haven't seen it happen, I mentioned it because I have no idea whether XP will handle it properly or not. Go ahead and try it, the worst that could happen is that XP doesn't boot. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, Did the same thing with w2k. Installed it on another drive and didn't even bother with lilo. I just tell the bios which disc I want to boot from (F9 as a shortcut comes in really handy there). When I installed w2k on the extra disc it didn't do anything to my Linux installation. Don't know about winXP though - that might go different. Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question
Corey Ralph wrote: On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:54 PM, amg wrote: Can I essentially: -detach my debian-installed drives -attach a blank drive (it would be the last IDE slot) -install XP onto that disk (letting XP muck around with the MBR (on it's own drive)) -re-attach the debian drives (leaving the XP drive attached, at the end of the drive order) That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. I had a machine that had the drive as master on the second IDE port (why Gateway did that is beyond me) that was set up to dual-boot with WinXP on the first partition and Debian on later parts. The next year I cloned it to a new machine using Altiris (used to be Lab Expert, similar to Ghost, does the same thing) that had its drive as master on the first IDE port (like normal). Debian complained quite a bit until I fixed the references in /etc/fstab (understandable); XP up and died and had to be rebuilt. Having said that, I had a co-worker who did something similar, and IIRC, his went okay; his WinXP picked up the change and went on just fine. I have no explanation for the difference between the two experiences, unless his image was newer Service Packs, etc, or that my memory is just faulty. So, take this as an anecdotal story; don't put too much trust in what I've said. -- Kent -- Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NT Installation - Seperate Drive Question
--- Ashley Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: That should all be fine, as long as XP doesn't get upset about the changed order of the disks. Do you have experience in that it will? Or is this a more or less, beware this might happen. In other words, have you seen it happen? Are there steps I can take to avoid it? Making sure if I should wear protection (hardhat w/one of those electric lights on top - maybe galoches?) later on today (during the install), or just pop in the disc and sit back. Why remove the disk? Just install XP (making sure you have a functioning Linux boot disk beforehand), boot with the boot disk and rerun lilo (add an entry in /etc/lilo.conf for the XP drive). Viola, you are done. BTW, I know this works because I have doine it exactly this we several times. -Roberto ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Nueva versión GRATIS Super Webcam, voz, caritas animadas, y más... http://messenger.yahoo.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Don't know about winXP though - that might go different. Maybe I will rock it win2k style all... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
