Re: SOLUTION AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 06:27:55PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good evening
> 
> This did work.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Thank You
> 
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Thank You
> 
> 
Hi Sophie,

I'm really very pleased that it all worked for you eventually.

There were some false starts and some misunderstandings but the main 
thing is that IT WORKS :)

We don't normally delete emails from the mailing lists - they are there
to explain how things happened and how solutions were found.

These emails also led to people explaining various facts about
how to use the mailing list - maybe these will help other people.

Herzlichen Gluckwuenshen

Andy
> 
> 
> 
> Regards Sope
> 
> I ll send 2nd email with topoic   Delete Printer Emails.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Jeremy Ardley 
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2023 00:47
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
> the wrong driver
> 
> 
> On 8/5/23 08:12, Will Mengarini wrote:
> > * Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
> >>
> >> https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
> >> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> > That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
> > (because the space before the backslash is taken literally).
> >
> > However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":
> 
> The driver is already included in the standard debian distribution
> 
> sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr
> 
> Then the usual cups administration to attach driver to printer using lpadmin 
> or http://localhost:631
> 
> 
> --
> Jeremy
> (Lists)
> 

SOLUTION AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good evening

This did work.

Thank You

Thank You

Thank You


Thank You

Thank You





Regards Sope

I ll send 2nd email with topoic   Delete Printer Emails.




Von: Jeremy Ardley 
Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2023 00:47
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver


On 8/5/23 08:12, Will Mengarini wrote:
> * Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
>>https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
>> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
> (because the space before the backslash is taken literally).
>
> However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":

The driver is already included in the standard debian distribution

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

Then the usual cups administration to attach driver to printer using lpadmin or 
http://localhost:631


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, youareusingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 12:07, Brian wrote:

On Tue 16 May 2023 at 11:24:05 -0400, gene heskett wrote:


On 5/16/23 10:35, Brian wrote:

On Tue 16 May 2023 at 09:58:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:


On 5/16/23 08:29, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:


[...]


But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, I think.

Andy

.

Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping the
cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019.


Did your investigations involve reading a changelog?


whazzat? Trolling thru /usr/share/ looking for those is a pita. And far more
often, a waste of time, not containing a useful amount of data.


Mmm. That's a novel way to dispose of the usefulness of changelogs and not
have to acknowledge what appears to be disinformation.
  

Given that clue, I would be surprised to find a "cups" driver in the debian
repo's capable of driving a newer epson product.


Please give yourself a treat and use 'lpinfo -m' :).


Thanks, I just did and it appears to show both brothers installed drivers
and the driverless, but driverless is not complete for either printer, where
the makers ppd is. for the laser, toner would last forever, very thin,
faint, had to read output, the mfcj6920dw only uses top tray, which is $8
for 50 sheets glossy photo paper. Tray 2, the bottom one has up to 350 pages
of duplex copy paper, the obvious choice, but the driverless driver doesn't
use it.


You made a comment on Epson products and Debian. I was rather hoping you would
address that rather than bringing up your concern with a possibly buggy printer
from another vendor.

Sorry, I somewhat subscribe to the suggestion Sophie is a chatbot 
learning, and was more concerned with my own problem cups children. But 
a new kernel on this machine, the "server" seems to have fixed the 
armbian bullseye machines.  epson, given their recent attitude about 
linux, and I as a potential customer pretty much quit worrying about 
them since ink or toner for the brothers cuts my per page costs 
noticeably. I've killed a lot of trees since the early 80's. In a way, 
I'm glad they wouldn't sell me a new high voltage board, the color 
reproduction of this inkjet is far far superior to anything I ever got 
out of the color laser.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusingthe wrong driver

[Brian]

On Tue 16 May 2023 at 11:24:05 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/16/23 10:35, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 16 May 2023 at 09:58:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> > 
> > > On 5/16/23 08:29, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, 
> > > > I think.
> > > > 
> > > > Andy
> > > > 
> > > > .
> > > Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping the
> > > cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019.
> > 
> > Did your investigations involve reading a changelog?
> 
> whazzat? Trolling thru /usr/share/ looking for those is a pita. And far more
> often, a waste of time, not containing a useful amount of data.

Mmm. That's a novel way to dispose of the usefulness of changelogs and not
have to acknowledge what appears to be disinformation. 
 
> > > Given that clue, I would be surprised to find a "cups" driver in the 
> > > debian
> > > repo's capable of driving a newer epson product.
> > 
> > Please give yourself a treat and use 'lpinfo -m' :).
> > 
> Thanks, I just did and it appears to show both brothers installed drivers
> and the driverless, but driverless is not complete for either printer, where
> the makers ppd is. for the laser, toner would last forever, very thin,
> faint, had to read output, the mfcj6920dw only uses top tray, which is $8
> for 50 sheets glossy photo paper. Tray 2, the bottom one has up to 350 pages
> of duplex copy paper, the obvious choice, but the driverless driver doesn't
> use it.

You made a comment on Epson products and Debian. I was rather hoping you would
address that rather than bringing up your concern with a possibly buggy printer
from another vendor.

-- 
Brian.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this,youareusingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 11:30, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:52:28AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

gnutls28-dev worked, all tests pass. thanks Greg. How do I now make
installable deb's? I think I have dh installed.


I wouldn't even try.  That would be a *project*.


Chuckle, but sir, I am doing it, for linuxcnc n an rpi4b! I can install 
them over the top of the buildbots output if I want, or if the buildbot 
gets a tummy ache.



This is the sort of thing that you install in /opt or /usr/local and
write your own systemd unit files or init.d scripts for, possibly
cannibalizing the Debian ones if they exist.


If it works, I'd prefer the packaging system knows about it.


That said, since this involves printers, I would just ask Brian what
to do.  He seems to know them extremely well, certainly better than I
do, though that's a low bar to pass.

.

Thanks Greg.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, youareusingthe wrong driver

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:52:28AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> gnutls28-dev worked, all tests pass. thanks Greg. How do I now make
> installable deb's? I think I have dh installed.

I wouldn't even try.  That would be a *project*.

This is the sort of thing that you install in /opt or /usr/local and
write your own systemd unit files or init.d scripts for, possibly
cannibalizing the Debian ones if they exist.

That said, since this involves printers, I would just ask Brian what
to do.  He seems to know them extremely well, certainly better than I
do, though that's a low bar to pass.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 10:35, Brian wrote:

On Tue 16 May 2023 at 09:58:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:


On 5/16/23 08:29, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:


[...]


But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, I think.

Andy

.

Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping the
cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019.


Did your investigations involve reading a changelog?


whazzat? Trolling thru /usr/share/ looking for those is a pita. And far 
more often, a waste of time, not containing a useful amount of data.



Given that clue, I would be surprised to find a "cups" driver in the debian
repo's capable of driving a newer epson product.


Please give yourself a treat and use 'lpinfo -m' :).

Thanks, I just did and it appears to show both brothers installed 
drivers and the driverless, but driverless is not complete for either 
printer, where the makers ppd is. for the laser, toner would last 
forever, very thin, faint, had to read output, the mfcj6920dw only uses 
top tray, which is $8 for 50 sheets glossy photo paper. Tray 2, the 
bottom one has up to 350 pages of duplex copy paper, the obvious choice, 
but the driverless driver doesn't use it.


Thanks Brian.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, youareusingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 10:28, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:20:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

On 5/16/23 10:03, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM gene heskett  wrote:

Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping
the cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019. The new cups
site, openprinting.org copy's src cups-master.zip is about 2.5 times the
size of the debian src, and it builds on bullseye with only one option
to "./configure with-tls=no" (presumably because debian doesn't have
libtls, I couldn't find it)


libtls is part of libressl from the OpenBSD folks. See, for example,
https://github.com/bob-beck/libtls/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md .



Thanks Jeff, but it does not appear in synaptic here on a bullseye install.
should I add another repo?  That's scary. I only do that on my buster
machines to add the linuxcnc buildbot because I run master on my machines.


Debian provides OpenSSL (libssl-dev or the older libssl1.0-dev) and GnuTLS
(libgnutls28-dev).  Chances are, at least one of these will work.

gnutls28-dev worked, all tests pass. thanks Greg. How do I now make 
installable deb's? I think I have dh installed.



Most projects that want TLS support are developed around OpenSSL, so
you should try that first.  Or, read the project's INSTALL or README
files and see what it says to use.

.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are usingthe wrong driver

[Brian]

On Tue 16 May 2023 at 09:58:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

> On 5/16/23 08:29, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

[...]

> > But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, I 
> > think.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > .
> Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping the
> cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019.

Did your investigations involve reading a changelog?
 
> Given that clue, I would be surprised to find a "cups" driver in the debian
> repo's capable of driving a newer epson product.

Please give yourself a treat and use 'lpinfo -m' :).

-- 
Brian.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusingthe wrong driver

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 10:20:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> On 5/16/23 10:03, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM gene heskett  wrote:
> > > Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping
> > > the cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019. The new cups
> > > site, openprinting.org copy's src cups-master.zip is about 2.5 times the
> > > size of the debian src, and it builds on bullseye with only one option
> > > to "./configure with-tls=no" (presumably because debian doesn't have
> > > libtls, I couldn't find it)
> > 
> > libtls is part of libressl from the OpenBSD folks. See, for example,
> > https://github.com/bob-beck/libtls/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md .

> Thanks Jeff, but it does not appear in synaptic here on a bullseye install.
> should I add another repo?  That's scary. I only do that on my buster
> machines to add the linuxcnc buildbot because I run master on my machines.

Debian provides OpenSSL (libssl-dev or the older libssl1.0-dev) and GnuTLS
(libgnutls28-dev).  Chances are, at least one of these will work.

Most projects that want TLS support are developed around OpenSSL, so
you should try that first.  Or, read the project's INSTALL or README
files and see what it says to use.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 10:03, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM gene heskett  wrote:

[...]
Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping
the cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019. The new cups
site, openprinting.org copy's src cups-master.zip is about 2.5 times the
size of the debian src, and it builds on bullseye with only one option
to "./configure with-tls=no" (presumably because debian doesn't have
libtls, I couldn't find it)


libtls is part of libressl from the OpenBSD folks. See, for example,
https://github.com/bob-beck/libtls/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md .

I've never used it, so I can't comment on it. (I have used OpenSSL a
lot, but not the OpenBSD port).

Jeff

.
Thanks Jeff, but it does not appear in synaptic here on a bullseye 
install. should I add another repo?  That's scary. I only do that on my 
buster machines to add the linuxcnc buildbot because I run master on my 
machines.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are usingthe wrong driver

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:59 AM gene heskett  wrote:
> [...]
> Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping
> the cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019. The new cups
> site, openprinting.org copy's src cups-master.zip is about 2.5 times the
> size of the debian src, and it builds on bullseye with only one option
> to "./configure with-tls=no" (presumably because debian doesn't have
> libtls, I couldn't find it)

libtls is part of libressl from the OpenBSD folks. See, for example,
https://github.com/bob-beck/libtls/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md .

I've never used it, so I can't comment on it. (I have used OpenSSL a
lot, but not the OpenBSD port).

Jeff

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are usingthe wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/16/23 08:29, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 01:55:08PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:

Will Mengarini  writes:


* Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:

   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb


That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
(because the space before the backslash is taken literally).

However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":

debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD
https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb


Which is still missing the <> surrounding the actual link. so its still 
a 403.

I don't understand why you guys even propose installing drivers from
Epson when printer-driver-escpr package is in Debian and should be
correct for the printer in question? Is there some established reason to
think it won't work? Or you just didn't do your homework?

I get that this saga probably never goes anywhere but I don't understand
this advice, especially from Andrew. It seems to run counter to the Debian
principle of using software that's actually packaged and tested by Debian.



If you reread - I suggest using the Debian package of escputil - I just wanted
Sophie to see that there was an Epson driver which might provide status
for ink tanks etc. - that's why I went through the steps of exactly how
to find the driver.

But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, I think.

Andy

.
Couple that with my recent discovery that debian seems to be shipping 
the cups from apple, last updated by its author in 2019. The new cups 
site, openprinting.org copy's src cups-master.zip is about 2.5 times the 
size of the debian src, and it builds on bullseye with only one option 
to "./configure with-tls=no" (presumably because debian doesn't have 
libtls, I couldn't find it)


Given that clue, I would be surprised to find a "cups" driver in the 
debian repo's capable of driving a newer epson product.


However to update this never ending saga, I rebooted this machine into a 
new security patched kernel yesterday, updating this machine to:


5.10.0-23-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.179-1 (2023-05-12) x86_64 GNU/Linux

and my bullseye armbian machines have magically gotten well. What 
changed? DIIK.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 01:55:08PM +0300, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Will Mengarini  writes:
> 
> > * Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
> >>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 
> >> \
> >> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> >
> > That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
> > (because the space before the backslash is taken literally).
> >
> > However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":
> > 
> > debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD
> > https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> 
> I don't understand why you guys even propose installing drivers from
> Epson when printer-driver-escpr package is in Debian and should be
> correct for the printer in question? Is there some established reason to
> think it won't work? Or you just didn't do your homework?
> 
> I get that this saga probably never goes anywhere but I don't understand
> this advice, especially from Andrew. It seems to run counter to the Debian
> principle of using software that's actually packaged and tested by Debian.
>

If you reread - I suggest using the Debian package of escputil - I just wanted
Sophie to see that there was an Epson driver which might provide status
for ink tanks etc. - that's why I went through the steps of exactly how
to find the driver.

But yes, this is going nowhere - and there is no lsb package in Debian, I think.

Andy 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Anssi Saari]

Will Mengarini  writes:

> * Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
>>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
>> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
>
> That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
> (because the space before the backslash is taken literally).
>
> However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":
> 
> debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD
> https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

I don't understand why you guys even propose installing drivers from
Epson when printer-driver-escpr package is in Debian and should be
correct for the printer in question? Is there some established reason to
think it won't work? Or you just didn't do your homework?

I get that this saga probably never goes anywhere but I don't understand
this advice, especially from Andrew. It seems to run counter to the Debian
principle of using software that's actually packaged and tested by Debian.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You.

I dont understand:

Did You write
this drivers are not running?

Regards
Sophie



Von: Will Mengarini 
Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2023 00:12
An: Brian 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

* Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
(because the space before the backslash is taken literally).

However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":

debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD 
https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
404 Not Found
Connection: close
Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 00:03:43 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Server: AkamaiNetStorage
Content-Length: 10
Client-Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 00:03:43 GMT
Client-Peer: 104.117.232.95:443
Client-Response-Num: 1
Client-SSL-Cert-Issuer: /C=US/O=DigiCert Inc/CN=DigiCert TLS RSA SHA256 2020 CA1
Client-SSL-Cert-Subject: /C=JP/ST=Nagano/L=Suwa-shi/O=SEIKO EPSON 
Corporation/CN=download2.ebz.epson.net
Client-SSL-Cipher: ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
Client-SSL-Socket-Class: IO::Socket::SSL
Client-SSL-Version: TLSv1_2


(HEAD is symlinked to /usr/bin/lwp-request, from package libwww-perl.)

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 08:46:22AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
> 
> Thank You.
> 
> EPSON said
> EPSON only works with WIN.
> 
> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 

Dear Sophie,

Epson do not formally support Linux for many of their printers.
They do provide some uofficial Linux packages. Among these are ones for 
your printer.

I only understand a little German. I am installing a Debian Linux 11 virtual
machine in German in order to help you better.

http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/ - the Epson web site.

If you put M1120 into the search box, do not put anything into operating system
and press Enter, you get 20 results.

Follow the links for the Epson printer driver for Linux - accept the license
conditions.

Download - epson-printer-utility_1.1.1-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

Also run the command that they suggest (as root or by using sudo):

apt install lsb

Install the supporting library for Epson printers from Debian

apt install escputil 

Now follow the tutorial page. Install escputil first, then the Epson printer
driver.

If this fails - tell us *exactly* what fails, error messages and so on.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

> 
> 
> Von: Brian 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 22:57
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
> the wrong driver
> 
> On Sun 07 May 2023 at 20:27:53 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> 
> I offer the following in the interest of correctness and just in case 
> Schwibinger
> Michael gets even more confused or disheartened and considers going away :).
> 
> > From looking on Epson's website:
> >
> > 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially
> 
>   http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
> 
> Or, for a direct download
> 
>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
> 
> > 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> > of variants.
> 
> brian@test-new:~$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -m | grep -i ET-M1120
> escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-ET-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd
>  \
> EPSON ET-M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux
> 
> --
> Briana.
> 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

I know its only may but this has to win thread of the year

On Mon, May 15, 2023, 4:46 AM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

> Good morning
>
> Thank You.
>
> EPSON said
> EPSON only works with WIN.
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Brian 
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 22:57
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are
> using the wrong driver
>
> On Sun 07 May 2023 at 20:27:53 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> I offer the following in the interest of correctness and just in case
> Schwibinger
> Michael gets even more confused or disheartened and considers going away
> :).
>
> > From looking on Epson's website:
> >
> > 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially
>
>   http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
>
> Or, for a direct download
>
>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753
> \
>
> > 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> > of variants.
>
> brian@test-new:~$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -m | grep -i ET-M1120
> escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-ET-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd
> \
> EPSON ET-M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux
>
> --
> Briana.
>
>

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You.

EPSON said
EPSON only works with WIN.

Regards
Sophie




Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 22:57
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Sun 07 May 2023 at 20:27:53 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

I offer the following in the interest of correctness and just in case 
Schwibinger
Michael gets even more confused or disheartened and considers going away :).

> From looking on Epson's website:
>
> 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially

  http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule

Or, for a direct download

  https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \

> 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> of variants.

brian@test-new:~$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -m | grep -i ET-M1120
escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-ET-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd
 \
EPSON ET-M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux

--
Briana.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Will Mengarini]

* Schwibinger Michael  [23-05/14=Sun 09:32 +]:
> This is not working:
> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-ubuntu-20-04-installation/2/

We need to know what fails.  Exactly what do
you do, and what results does it produce?

On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>> How on earth would we know whether the
>> messages are important without seeing them?
>
> [...]
>
> OK.  I'm going to have one more go at this. [...]

And once again, and wiser in no wise,
I chase your colored phantom on the air,
And sob and curse and fall and weep and rise
And stumble pitifully on to where,
Miserable and lost, with stinging eyes,
Once more I clasp -- and there is nothing there.
-- Edna St Vincent Millay

  /* return TRUE if the monster tends to revive */
  #define is_reviver(ptr) (is_rider(ptr) || (ptr)->mlet == S_TROLL)
-- https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.6.1/include/mondata.h

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning.
Thank You.


I hope this email is more polite.


This is not working:
https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-ubuntu-20-04-installation/2/

or:

https://www.club.computerwissen.de/qa/109588-epson-drucker-et-m1120-auf-linux
[https://www.club.computerwissen.de/components/com_easydiscuss/themes/wireframe/images/placeholder-facebook.png]<https://www.club.computerwissen.de/qa/109588-epson-drucker-et-m1120-auf-linux>
Epson Drucker ET-M1120 auf 
LINUX<https://www.club.computerwissen.de/qa/109588-epson-drucker-et-m1120-auf-linux>
Meine Epson Drucker ET-M1120 als auch Epson Stylus D120 lassen sich nicht auf 
Ubuntu-Linux installieren. Datei aus Email-Antwort der Firma EPSON Level One 
vom Dienstag,den 11.Jan. 2022 lässt sich nicht hochladen. [Antwort vom 
Kunden-support Linux-und Unix-Betriebssysteme werden von Epson nicht 
unterstützt] Erbitte von Herrn Kaner Etem Drucker-Inst...
www.club.computerwissen.de


Regards Sopjie




Von: chris 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 21:45
An: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Cc: Debian User 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

True

On Sun, May 7, 2023, 4:28 PM Andrew M.A. Cater 
mailto:amaca...@einval.com>> wrote:
On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > There are some other messages from the printer.
> >
> > Are they important?
>
> How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> seeing them?
>
> This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> incompetent that helping you is impossible.
>

OK. I'm going to have one more go at this. For the avoidance of doubt:
I'll assume that Sophie is genuine - maybe a teenager, certainly
someone whose first language is German.

I'm going to assume good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary.**

>From looking on Epson's website:

1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially.

2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
of variants.

3. It is listed as a GDI compatible printer - this is indicative of a printer
that requires a specific Windows driver to compose the page.

4. It is compatible with older Epson printing protocols called Esc/P and
Esc/P-R.

5. Epson do have a filter program available to make this printer work
as an Esc/P printer under Linux using CUPS to manage the printer.

6. If CUPS setup is possible - you will need to read documents to be
able to set up CUPS.

See: 
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162

See: https://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escpr.html

> Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
>

This is possibly not the best advice: I would suggest that you find a
fellow student who uses Linux and is an enthusiast to help you out.

** Michael Tobias Schwibinger (or similar spelling) appears to be a
Dipl. Ing, interested in software, psychology and clown therapy / circus
skills and clown theory?

In the hope that this can finally put an end to this neverending thread.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver Including BUG MESSAGE

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 10:18:37AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>   *   For Debian based distributions:
> # dpkg -i epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_.deb
> 
> 
> 
> What is the name of architecture?

Typically, either amd64 or i386, depending on which one you installed.
The canonical way to find out is:

unicorn:~$ dpkg --print-architecture
amd64

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver Including BUG MESSAGE

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 10:18:37AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> First
> You asked for the bug message:
> 
> https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp
> [https://i.ibb.co/jDTLmNG/epsonprot.jpg]<https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp>
> epsonprot hosted at ImgBB<https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp>
> Image epsonprot hosted in ImgBB
> ibb.co
> 

Unfortunately, that patge returns nothing except a page not found
error

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater


> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 20:27
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
> the wrong driver
> 
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > There are some other messages from the printer.
> > >
> > > Are they important?
> >
> > How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> > seeing them?
> >
> > This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> > yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> > incompetent that helping you is impossible.
> >
> 
> OK. I'm going to have one more go at this. For the avoidance of doubt:
> I'll assume that Sophie is genuine - maybe a teenager, certainly
> someone whose first language is German.
> 
> I'm going to assume good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary.**
> 
> >From looking on Epson's website:
> 
> 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially.
> 
> 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> of variants.
> 
> 3. It is listed as a GDI compatible printer - this is indicative of a printer
> that requires a specific Windows driver to compose the page.
> 
> 4. It is compatible with older Epson printing protocols called Esc/P and
> Esc/P-R.
> 
> 5. Epson do have a filter program available to make this printer work
> as an Esc/P printer under Linux using CUPS to manage the printer.
> 
> 6. If CUPS setup is possible - you will need to read documents to be
> able to set up CUPS.
> 
> See: 
> https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162
> 
> See: https://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escpr.html
> 
> > Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> > what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> > and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
> >
> 
> This is possibly not the best advice: I would suggest that you find a
> fellow student who uses Linux and is an enthusiast to help you out.
> 
> ** Michael Tobias Schwibinger (or similar spelling) appears to be a
> Dipl. Ing, interested in software, psychology and clown therapy / circus
> skills and clown theory?
> 
> In the hope that this can finally put an end to this neverending thread.
> 
> With every good wish, as ever,
> 
> Andy Cater
> 

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver Including BUG MESSAGE

[Schwibinger Michael]

First
You asked for the bug message:

https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp
[https://i.ibb.co/jDTLmNG/epsonprot.jpg]<https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp>
epsonprot hosted at ImgBB<https://ibb.co/Xtbz1Qp>
Image epsonprot hosted in ImgBB
ibb.co



Good morning

 
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162
[https://i8.amplience.net/i/epsonemear/et-m1120_productimages-2-main]<https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162>
EcoTank ET-M1120 | Consumer | Inkjet Printers | Printers | Products | Epson 
United 
Kingdom<https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162>
Take advantage of mobile printing and reduce your printing costs with this 
reliable, time-saving and energy-efficient EcoTank.
www.epson.co.uk


Thank You for URL:

Where I can find Linux?

Zje other link:

ou can install the package of this driver software by using package manager, 
etc. Or you can also install this software package by opening a terminal and 
using command lines input.
Note:The following commands needs to be performed as a root privilege.

  *   For Redhat based distributions:
# rpm -i epson-inkjet-printer-escpr--.rpm
  *   For Debian based distributions:
# dpkg -i epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_.deb



What is the name of architecture?

Regards
Sophie




Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 20:27
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > There are some other messages from the printer.
> >
> > Are they important?
>
> How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> seeing them?
>
> This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> incompetent that helping you is impossible.
>

OK. I'm going to have one more go at this. For the avoidance of doubt:
I'll assume that Sophie is genuine - maybe a teenager, certainly
someone whose first language is German.

I'm going to assume good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary.**

>From looking on Epson's website:

1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially.

2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
of variants.

3. It is listed as a GDI compatible printer - this is indicative of a printer
that requires a specific Windows driver to compose the page.

4. It is compatible with older Epson printing protocols called Esc/P and
Esc/P-R.

5. Epson do have a filter program available to make this printer work
as an Esc/P printer under Linux using CUPS to manage the printer.

6. If CUPS setup is possible - you will need to read documents to be
able to set up CUPS.

See: 
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162

See: https://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escpr.html

> Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
>

This is possibly not the best advice: I would suggest that you find a
fellow student who uses Linux and is an enthusiast to help you out.

** Michael Tobias Schwibinger (or similar spelling) appears to be a
Dipl. Ing, interested in software, psychology and clown therapy / circus
skills and clown theory?

In the hope that this can finally put an end to this neverending thread.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

SUCCESS

On Fri, May 12, 2023, 1:41 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

>
> Good afternoon
>
> I ll give the paper to a friend.
> He is owning a scanner.
> He ll scan it and I ll send it to the group.
>
> Thank You for help.
>
> Regards
> Sophie
> Thank You
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Greg Wooledge 
> *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 12:51
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are
> using the wrong driver
>
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > There are some other messages from the printer.
> >
> > Are they important?
>
> How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> seeing them?
>
> This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> incompetent that helping you is impossible.
>
> Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
>
>

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

I ll give the paper to a friend.
He is owning a scanner.
He ll scan it and I ll send it to the group.

Thank You for help.

Regards
Sophie
Thank You



Von: Greg Wooledge 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 12:51
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> There are some other messages from the printer.
>
> Are they important?

How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
seeing them?

This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
incompetent that helping you is impossible.

Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
and have the Linux users group help you set it up.

AW: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-debian-installation/



Good afternoon

I did find this URL

https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-debian-installation/
[https://mediaw.tutorialforlinux.com/printers/epson/intro/ET-M1100.png]<https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-debian-installation/>
Step-by-step - Printer Epson ET-M1100/ET-M1120 Debian Installation • 
tutorialforlinux.com<https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/03/06/step-by-step-driver-epson-et-m1100-et-m1120-debian-installation/>
GNU/Linux Debian Epson ET-M1100/ET-M1120 Printer Setup Guide Hi! The Tutorial 
shows you Step-by-Step How to Download and Install Epson EcoTank 
ET-M1100/ET-M1120 Printer in Debian GNU/Linux OldStable/Stable/Testing/Sid 
Desktops. And to Install Epson ET-M1100/ET-M1120 Printer on Debian you need to 
Setup the Proprietary Driver. Especially relevant: using the Epson Printer 
Utility Software, you can check Ink Levels, • Read More »
tutorialforlinux.com
Where xan I find the driver?

Thank You for help

Regards

Sophie




Von: David 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2023 10:37
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are 
using the wrong driver

On Sun, 2023-05-07 at 09:26 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>
> Good morning
>
> Thank You for help.
>
> There are some other messages from the printer.
>
> Are they important?
>
>
>
> The list gave me here a lot of URLS,
> but where ist the good driver?

Epson doesn't appear to have created one for this printer:

http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/product.asp

http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule

and Openprinting appears to have nothing on it.
It appears you have purchased a boat anchor.
This leaves you with two options:
buy a very cheap desktop box off a recycler with Windows loaded to use
as a driver box, or
buy another printer, using the above links as reference points as to
what might be worth your money.
Cheers!

>
>
> Regards
>
> Sophie
>
>
>
> 
> Von: Thomas Schmitt 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2023 11:39
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you
> are using the wrong driver
>
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /"
> > > assassination
> > > attempt.
>
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.
>
> It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid
> and
> not just pretending.
>
>
> > Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> > more fringe aspects of human psychology.
>
> Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
> experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie
> before
> ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).
>
>
> > It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.
>
> What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>

--
A Kiwi in Australia,
doing my bit toward raising the national standard.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

True

On Wed, May 10, 2023, 11:08 AM Lee  wrote:

> On 5/10/23, Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
>
> nothing of interest .. same as every other day.
>
> *plonk*
>
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Lee]

On 5/10/23, Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

nothing of interest .. same as every other day.

*plonk*

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

What is the issue with the printer?

On Wed, May 10, 2023, 10:58 AM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

> Good morning
> Can somebody help with the printer.
>
> Can You wrote as topic:
>
> "joke".
>
> Regards
> Thank You
>
> Sophie
>
>
>
> --
> *Von:* Thomas Schmitt 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 5. Mai 2023 10:01
> *An:* debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> *Betreff:* Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are
> using the wrong driver
>
> Hi,
>
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 1. I am not a German
> > 2. This is not a joke
> > 3. At least one of 1, 2, or 3 is false
>
> So the most humorous guess would be that you are a german philosopher.
>
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
>

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning
Can somebody help with the printer.

Can You wrote as topic:

"joke".

Regards
Thank You

Sophie




Von: Thomas Schmitt 
Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Mai 2023 10:01
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 1. I am not a German
> 2. This is not a joke
> 3. At least one of 1, 2, or 3 is false

So the most humorous guess would be that you are a german philosopher.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

It is not an AI problem
the printer is saying:

 EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong 
driver

I think
EPSON tried to help.

Regards Sophie



Thank You.






Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Mai 2023 11:43
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 01:39:28PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
> > > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> > > attempt.
>
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.
>
> It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid and
> not just pretending.
>
>
> > Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> > more fringe aspects of human psychology.
>
> Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
> experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie before
> ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).

So that would be pre-release training?

> > It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.
>
> What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?

...follow the money. Microsoft has dumped such an outrageous amount
of that into OpenAI as to be relevant. Besides, they're now feeling
all smug for having (at least ostensibly) out-maneuvred Google, for
once.

Besides... history. They already released one AI (on twitter?) which
ended up misbehaving.

> Have a nice day :)

Likewise :)
--
t

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 9 May 2023 16:26:20 -0400
chris  wrote:

Hello chris,

>Any update on the status of this Epson printer? The world is dying to
>know the outcome of this saga

We're back to the beginning;
  It doesn't print.
No other info.
OP is either;
 beyond help,
 rubbish AI,
or
 trolling.

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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

Any update on the status of this Epson printer? The world is dying to know
the outcome of this saga

On Mon, May 8, 2023, 2:35 PM Brad Rogers  wrote:

> On Mon, 8 May 2023 12:37:35 -0400
> chris  wrote:
>
> Hello chris,
>
> >Are we at the point yet where this has enough attention it would have
> >been cheaper to crowd fund a new printer?? 藍藍
>
> (smiley noted)
>
> I'm betting even that wouldn't work;  At this point, I'm of the opinion
> (after a quick glance through some of the earlier posts in this thread)
> that the OP may have installed the driver from Debian but has not fired
> up CUPS to actually make use of it.
>
> Given their obvious difficulties with English (not their native tongue,
> so entirely understandable) help from this point would have most likely
> have to take the form of paying them a visit.
>
> --
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>  / )  "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent"
> / _)rad   "Is it only me that has a working delete key?"
> I'm spending all my money and it's going up my nose
> Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Brad Rogers]

On Mon, 8 May 2023 12:37:35 -0400
chris  wrote:

Hello chris,

>Are we at the point yet where this has enough attention it would have
>been cheaper to crowd fund a new printer?? 藍藍

(smiley noted)

I'm betting even that wouldn't work;  At this point, I'm of the opinion
(after a quick glance through some of the earlier posts in this thread)
that the OP may have installed the driver from Debian but has not fired
up CUPS to actually make use of it.

Given their obvious difficulties with English (not their native tongue,
so entirely understandable) help from this point would have most likely
have to take the form of paying them a visit.

-- 
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/ _)rad   "Is it only me that has a working delete key?"
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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

Are we at the point yet where this has enough attention it would have been
cheaper to crowd fund a new printer?? 藍藍

On Mon, May 8, 2023, 12:03 PM Curt  wrote:

> On 2023-05-08, Will Mengarini  wrote:
> >
> > However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":
> > 
> > debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD
> https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> > 404 Not Found
> > Connection: close
>
>
>
> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN==144815=7d1f9cb6b55d10182962d13f26948e0052707a37
>
> It's on the page, after clicking Accept. I can't seem to derive the direct
> link to the file from that page.
>
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Curt]

On 2023-05-08, Will Mengarini  wrote:
>
> However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":
> 
> debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD 
> https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
> 404 Not Found
> Connection: close


http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN==144815=7d1f9cb6b55d10182962d13f26948e0052707a37

It's on the page, after clicking Accept. I can't seem to derive the direct
link to the file from that page.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 8/5/23 08:47, Jeremy Ardley wrote:


On 8/5/23 08:12, Will Mengarini wrote:

* Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 
\

cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
(because the space before the backslash is taken literally).

However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":


The driver is already included in the standard debian distribution

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

Then the usual cups administration to attach driver to printer using 
lpadmin or http://localhost:631




FYI The driver options are:

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

sudo lpinfo -m | grep -i epson-escpr-en | grep 1120
escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-ET-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd 
EPSON ET-M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux
escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd 
EPSON M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux


--
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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 8/5/23 08:12, Will Mengarini wrote:

* Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:

   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
(because the space before the backslash is taken literally).

However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":


The driver is already included in the standard debian distribution

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

Then the usual cups administration to attach driver to printer using lpadmin or 
http://localhost:631


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Will Mengarini]

* Brian  [23-05/08=Mo 00:27 +0100]:
>   https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \
> cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

That includes a literal space in the middle of that hash
(because the space before the backslash is taken literally).

However, when I removed that space by hand, I still got "not found":

debian/pts/3 bash3 ~ 17:03 0$HEAD 
https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753cce3b2715b3e2fef557/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.26-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb
404 Not Found
Connection: close
Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 00:03:43 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Server: AkamaiNetStorage
Content-Length: 10
Client-Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 00:03:43 GMT
Client-Peer: 104.117.232.95:443
Client-Response-Num: 1
Client-SSL-Cert-Issuer: /C=US/O=DigiCert Inc/CN=DigiCert TLS RSA SHA256 2020 CA1
Client-SSL-Cert-Subject: /C=JP/ST=Nagano/L=Suwa-shi/O=SEIKO EPSON 
Corporation/CN=download2.ebz.epson.net
Client-SSL-Cipher: ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
Client-SSL-Socket-Class: IO::Socket::SSL
Client-SSL-Version: TLSv1_2


(HEAD is symlinked to /usr/bin/lwp-request, from package libwww-perl.)

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Brian]

On Sun 07 May 2023 at 20:27:53 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

I offer the following in the interest of correctness and just in case 
Schwibinger
Michael gets even more confused or disheartened and considers going away :).

> From looking on Epson's website:
> 
> 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially

  http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule

Or, for a direct download

  https://download3.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/03/00/14/48/15/1d37501ad39bd2b5753 \

> 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> of variants.

brian@test-new:~$ /usr/sbin/lpinfo -m | grep -i ET-M1120
escpr:0/cups/model/epson-inkjet-printer-escpr/Epson-ET-M1120_Series-epson-escpr-en.ppd
 \
EPSON ET-M1120 Series , Epson Inkjet Printer Driver (ESC/P-R) for Linux

-- 
Briana.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

True

On Sun, May 7, 2023, 4:28 PM Andrew M.A. Cater  wrote:

> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > > There are some other messages from the printer.
> > >
> > > Are they important?
> >
> > How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> > seeing them?
> >
> > This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> > yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> > incompetent that helping you is impossible.
> >
>
> OK. I'm going to have one more go at this. For the avoidance of doubt:
> I'll assume that Sophie is genuine - maybe a teenager, certainly
> someone whose first language is German.
>
> I'm going to assume good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary.**
>
> >From looking on Epson's website:
>
> 1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially.
>
> 2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
> of variants.
>
> 3. It is listed as a GDI compatible printer - this is indicative of a
> printer
> that requires a specific Windows driver to compose the page.
>
> 4. It is compatible with older Epson printing protocols called Esc/P and
> Esc/P-R.
>
> 5. Epson do have a filter program available to make this printer work
> as an Esc/P printer under Linux using CUPS to manage the printer.
>
> 6. If CUPS setup is possible - you will need to read documents to be
> able to set up CUPS.
>
> See:
> https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162
>
> See: https://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escpr.html
>
> > Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> > what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> > and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
> >
>
> This is possibly not the best advice: I would suggest that you find a
> fellow student who uses Linux and is an enthusiast to help you out.
>
> ** Michael Tobias Schwibinger (or similar spelling) appears to be a
> Dipl. Ing, interested in software, psychology and clown therapy / circus
> skills and clown theory?
>
> In the hope that this can finally put an end to this neverending thread.
>
> With every good wish, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
>
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 08:51:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > There are some other messages from the printer.
> > 
> > Are they important?
> 
> How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
> seeing them?
> 
> This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
> yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
> incompetent that helping you is impossible.
> 

OK. I'm going to have one more go at this. For the avoidance of doubt:
I'll assume that Sophie is genuine - maybe a teenager, certainly 
someone whose first language is German. 

I'm going to assume good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary.**

>From looking on Epson's website:

1. They do not support this printer under Linux officially.

2. The printer is listed as a printer supported only under Windows - lots
of variants.

3. It is listed as a GDI compatible printer - this is indicative of a printer
that requires a specific Windows driver to compose the page.

4. It is compatible with older Epson printing protocols called Esc/P and 
Esc/P-R.

5. Epson do have a filter program available to make this printer work
as an Esc/P printer under Linux using CUPS to manage the printer.

6. If CUPS setup is possible - you will need to read documents to be
able to set up CUPS.

See: 
https://www.epson.co.uk/products/printers/inkjet/consumer/ecotank-et-m1120/p/23162

See: https://download.ebz.epson.net/man/linux/escpr.html

> Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
> what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
> and have the Linux users group help you set it up.
>

This is possibly not the best advice: I would suggest that you find a 
fellow student who uses Linux and is an enthusiast to help you out.

** Michael Tobias Schwibinger (or similar spelling) appears to be a
Dipl. Ing, interested in software, psychology and clown therapy / circus
skills and clown theory?

In the hope that this can finally put an end to this neverending thread. 

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 09:26:33AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> There are some other messages from the printer.
> 
> Are they important?

How on earth would we know whether the messages are important without
seeing them?

This is why nobody is offering you any more help.  You are presenting
yourself as either a troll, or as someone who is so fundamentally
incompetent that helping you is impossible.

Do you want my advice?  Go find a local Linux users group, and ask them
what kind of printers they're using.  Then buy one of THOSE printers,
and have the Linux users group help you set it up.

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[David]

On Sun, 2023-05-07 at 09:26 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> Good morning
> 
> Thank You for help.
> 
> There are some other messages from the printer.
> 
> Are they important?
> 
> 
> 
> The list gave me here a lot of URLS,
> but where ist the good driver?

Epson doesn't appear to have created one for this printer:

http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/product.asp

http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule

and Openprinting appears to have nothing on it.
It appears you have purchased a boat anchor.
This leaves you with two options:
buy a very cheap desktop box off a recycler with Windows loaded to use
as a driver box, or
buy another printer, using the above links as reference points as to
what might be worth your money.
Cheers!

> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Thomas Schmitt 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2023 11:39
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you
> are using the wrong driver
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i wrote:
> > > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /"
> > > assassination
> > > attempt.
> 
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.
> 
> It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid
> and
> not just pretending.
> 
> 
> > Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> > more fringe aspects of human psychology.
> 
> Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
> experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie
> before
> ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).
> 
> 
> > It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.
> 
> What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?
> 
> 
> Have a nice day :)
> 
> Thomas
> 

-- 
A Kiwi in Australia,
doing my bit toward raising the national standard.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You for help.

There are some other messages from the printer.

Are they important?



The list gave me here a lot of URLS,
but where ist the good driver?


Regards

Sophie




Von: Thomas Schmitt 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2023 11:39
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

Hi,

i wrote:
> > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> > attempt.

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.

It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid and
not just pretending.


> Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> more fringe aspects of human psychology.

Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie before
ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).


> It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.

What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 1. I am not a German
> 2. This is not a joke
> 3. At least one of 1, 2, or 3 is false

So the most humorous guess would be that you are a german philosopher.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[to...@tuxteam.de]

On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 09:02:20AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> Good morning
> 
> The Germans like to do jokes.

1. I am not a German
2. This is not a joke
3. At least one of 1, 2, or 3 is false

Cheers
-- 
t


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AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

The Germans like to do jokes.

Thank You
Regards
Sophie



Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Dienstag, 02. Mai 2023 09:40
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 11:32:13AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

[...]

> In
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2023/03/msg00123.html
> i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> attempt.

Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.

I used to be on Hanlon's side; slowly, that one is decaying.
It seems that you were right, after all.

Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
more fringe aspects of human psychology. It's coming from
a Microsoft domain, after all.

Cheers
--
t

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You for the jokes.


Can somenody help with the printing problem.

There is a driver
but the printer said:

Is bad.

The name is:


epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.25-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb

Regards Sophie



Von: Thomas Schmitt 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Mai 2023 09:32
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

Hi,

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
> > > on the German mailing list,

Thomas Hochstein wrote:
> > They started on the German mailing list, about a year ago ...

Schwibinger Michael / Sophie wrote:
> The Germans did send You to this list.

No. The Germans did send You to this list.

(I could not resist biting the obvious comedy bait and did not even
check whether there was really the advise to mail to debian-user.)


> Was this wrong?

Maybe they wanted to let the world participate in the experience of a
"Hurz!" performance.

Regrettably there is no english version of
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurz!
So i try to translate the first sentences:

  Hurz! is a tv prank by Hape Kerkeling and Achim Hagemann, which belongs
  to the best known works of Kerkeling. [...] aired in 1991 [...]
  Kerkeling and Hagemann pretend to be polish musicians who [...] present
  the unaware audience an alleged excerpt from an opera by a fictive
  contemporary classic composer. Although the text is comprised of short
  nonsense passages which get multiple times interrupted by the outcry
  "Hoorts!", parts of the audience try hard to find a sincere
  interpretation during the subsequent discussion.


About half of the audience of the thread "Debian bootet nicht / Screenshot"
at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2022/10/threads.html
makes mocking comments about the overall Sophie show. The other half is
quarreling over the question whether Hanlon's Razor cuts correctly in this
case.
In
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2023/03/msg00123.html
i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
attempt.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[tomas]

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 09:31:39PM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

[...]

> I don't know about your position, but I find myself repeating
> Hanlon's Razor a lot: "Never ascribe to malice that which can
> adequately be explained by stupidity."  But then, in the back
> of my mind, a little voice replies: "But Microsoft isn't stupid!"

My preferred tool in this case is Clarke's Third Razor:

  "any sufficiently advanced form of malice is indistinguishable
  from stupidity"

With apologies to Arthur C. Clarke and whoever Hanlon actually is.

Cheers
-- 
t


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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Charlie Gibbs]

On Tue, 02 May 2023 13:40:01 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt"  
wrote:


> Hi,
>
> i wrote:
>
>>> i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /"
>>> assassination attempt.
>
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>> Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.
>
> It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid
> and not just pretending.
>
>> Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
>> more fringe aspects of human psychology.
>
> Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
> experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie
> before ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).
>
>> It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.
>
> What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?

I don't know about your position, but I find myself repeating
Hanlon's Razor a lot: "Never ascribe to malice that which can
adequately be explained by stupidity."  But then, in the back
of my mind, a little voice replies: "But Microsoft isn't stupid!"

--
/~\  Charlie Gibbs  |  Microsoft is a dictatorship.
\ /|  Apple is a cult.
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus |  Linux is anarchy.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  Pick your poison.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[tomas]

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 01:39:28PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i wrote:
> > > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> > > attempt.
> 
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.
> 
> It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid and
> not just pretending.
> 
> 
> > Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> > more fringe aspects of human psychology.
> 
> Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
> experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie before
> ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).

So that would be pre-release training?

> > It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.
> 
> What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?

...follow the money. Microsoft has dumped such an outrageous amount
of that into OpenAI as to be relevant. Besides, they're now feeling
all smug for having (at least ostensibly) out-maneuvred Google, for
once.

Besides... history. They already released one AI (on twitter?) which
ended up misbehaving.

> Have a nice day :)

Likewise :)
-- 
t


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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

i wrote:
> > i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> > attempt.

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.

It would only be deadly if the assassination target is indeed stupid and
not just pretending.


> Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
> more fringe aspects of human psychology.

Some german list members speculated about a psychology or sociology
experiment going on. Nevertheless i think to have observed Sophie before
ChatGPT (but after ELIZA).


> It's coming from a Microsoft domain, after all.

What is our position on Microsoft Inc. and Hanlon's Razor ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[tomas]

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 11:32:13AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

[...]

> In
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2023/03/msg00123.html
> i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
> attempt.

Murder by a Hanlon razor. Now that would be... something.

I used to be on Hanlon's side; slowly, that one is decaying.
It seems that you were right, after all.

Perhaps this is just a dark tentacle of ChatGPT, probing the
more fringe aspects of human psychology. It's coming from
a Microsoft domain, after all.

Cheers
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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
> > > on the German mailing list,

Thomas Hochstein wrote:
> > They started on the German mailing list, about a year ago ...

Schwibinger Michael / Sophie wrote:
> The Germans did send You to this list.

No. The Germans did send You to this list.

(I could not resist biting the obvious comedy bait and did not even
check whether there was really the advise to mail to debian-user.)


> Was this wrong?

Maybe they wanted to let the world participate in the experience of a
"Hurz!" performance.

Regrettably there is no english version of
  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurz!
So i try to translate the first sentences:

  Hurz! is a tv prank by Hape Kerkeling and Achim Hagemann, which belongs
  to the best known works of Kerkeling. [...] aired in 1991 [...]
  Kerkeling and Hagemann pretend to be polish musicians who [...] present
  the unaware audience an alleged excerpt from an opera by a fictive
  contemporary classic composer. Although the text is comprised of short
  nonsense passages which get multiple times interrupted by the outcry
  "Hoorts!", parts of the audience try hard to find a sincere
  interpretation during the subsequent discussion.


About half of the audience of the thread "Debian bootet nicht / Screenshot"
at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2022/10/threads.html
makes mocking comments about the overall Sophie show. The other half is
quarreling over the question whether Hanlon's Razor cuts correctly in this
case.
In
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2023/03/msg00123.html
i see 100% non-Hanlon opinions including a "sudo rm -R /" assassination
attempt.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning.

The Germans did send You to this list.

Was this wrong?

Regards Sophie

Thank You




Von: Greg Wooledge 
Gesendet: Montag, 1. Mai 2023 11:30
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 08:31:11AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
> Thank You for email.
>
>
> Plonk!
>
> Wat is a plonk?
> A bug?

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html

It means that person has put you on their ignore list, or killfile, or
whatever it's called in their mail reader.  They have chosen never to
see anything you write, ever again.

If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
on the German mailing list, or whichever mailing list speaks your primary
language.  I don't think anyone on this list is interested in continuing
to offer help to you.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 5/1/23 08:36, Thomas Hochstein wrote:

Greg Wooledge wrote:


If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
on the German mailing list, or whichever mailing list speaks your primary
language.  I don't think anyone on this list is interested in continuing
to offer help to you.


They started on the German mailing list, about a year ago ...

.
The last epson I had that worked with linux was a 4 color C82, well over 
a decade ago. Then it looks as if they started making windows only 
printers because all the normal printer stuff was moved from the driver 
in the printer and put into the windows driver, leaving only the ability 
to put a drop of the chosen color at the chosen xy spot on the paper in 
the printer.  That and the constant battle to keep the nozzle unclogged 
got tiresome and limited the last printer I bought to about 2 months 
life. So that was replaced by a Brother color laser, which worked well 
for around 4 years, then slowly lost its corona wire voltage, an easy 
enough to diagnose problem for me as I am a CET, but brother refused to 
sell me a board despite the fact that I am a CET, fully capable of 
handling that high voltage item. So I brought home their biggest inkjet. 
That was about 8 years ago, and it is still pumping out full color 
images on paper up to tabloid size. A huge device, its also a scanner 
for 11x17 tabloid. I also have a much faster HLL2320dw a B laser that 
does duplex on copy paper at 19 pages a minute. And running on linux, 
using the drivers they supply, both run to their full capabilities.


Obviously I am now a Brother fan and I believe in supporting the makers 
who support us. Glaringly obvious in my previous post. But apparently 
this person doesn't want to admit a mistake was made, and the only way 
to solve it is to run an all windows house at much more cost than buying 
another printer that is supported would be.  Brother's consumables cost 
less per page than epson so you get the difference back over time and 
reams of paper.


This may be a duplicate of what wallmart had for sale at $31.95 3 or 4 
years ago, and which I saw the epson label and drove the cart right on by.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Thomas Hochstein]

Greg Wooledge wrote:

> If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
> on the German mailing list, or whichever mailing list speaks your primary
> language.  I don't think anyone on this list is interested in continuing
> to offer help to you.

They started on the German mailing list, about a year ago ...

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 08:31:11AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
> Thank You for email.
> 
> 
> Plonk!
> 
> Wat is a plonk?
> A bug?

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html

It means that person has put you on their ignore list, or killfile, or
whatever it's called in their mail reader.  They have chosen never to
see anything you write, ever again.

If you still have issues with your printer, I strongly advise you to ask
on the German mailing list, or whichever mailing list speaks your primary
language.  I don't think anyone on this list is interested in continuing
to offer help to you.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning
Thank You for email.


Plonk!

Wat is a plonk?
A bug?

Regards
Sophie



Von: Jeffrey Walton 
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. April 2023 11:47
An: Schwibinger Michael 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 5:16 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon.
> The new printer is not  working.
> EPSON is saying
> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
>
> Is this true?

Plonk!

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You.

What does it mean the EPSON printer is stupid?


How do I queri?

Regards
Sophie



Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 11:57
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:33:26 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> >> The new printer is not  working.
> >> EPSON is saying
> >> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
> >>
> >> Is this true?
> >
> > You could consider:
> >
> >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
> >   * Giving the printer make and model.
>
> "Subject:" says "EPSON ET M 1120"
> AFAICT it's a monochrome printer from 2019 with some kind of ink tank.
> Given the timescale, it probably supports driverless printing.

The EPSON ET M1120 does not come with enough intelligence to be certified
as AirPrintint-capable. Therefore, it may or may not be be a driverless
device. The printer would need to be queried and its attributes examined
to make a decision.

--
Brian.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 5:16 PM Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon.
> The new printer is not  working.
> EPSON is saying
> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
>
> Is this true?

Plonk!

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[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

Is somebody here familiar with
printing emails
using DEBIAN?

Regards

Sophie

Thank You for help.



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. April 2023 20:28
An: Schwibinger Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are 
using the wrong driver

On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 10:08:27AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
>
> Is the problem the printer or Sophie?
>

The problem is people not being patient and not being helpful.
Somewhere in the list of messages, there is one from me asking
people to be helpful - I see you have copied it below..

I'm guessing Sophie is a young person and is working in English
which for her is a second language. I'm also guessing that she
is doing this because she wants to learn for herself.

There is a Debian user mailing list in the German language if
this would be more helpful.

The lists of messages often all have the same subject even if the question
changes. That's fine but can be confusing at times.

My latest message was asking a series of questions so that we can
perhaps narrow down the problem.
>
> Can DEBIAN itself find a printerdriver?
>

It should be possible to find a printer driver or to find something to
work on Settings to find something for you. Thank you for contacting
me.

With every good wish / Mit besten Gruesse

Andy Cater

>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
> 
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 10:04
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
> the wrong driver
>
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:17:23AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > Why not just everyone attack each other?
> >
> > This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
> >
> > ..
> > Bret Busby
> > Armadale
> > West Australia
> > (UTC+0800)
> > ..
> >
>
> Agreed: in this instance, however, we've had a series of emails from this
> person in the past. Most of them don't reset a subject so go on a long time
> on various subjects in the same thread.
>
> That said: people - please remember that this list is subject to the Code
> of Conduct. Part of that involves being constructive and helpful: sniping
> doesn't really help at all.
>
> We are all human and can get annoyed when someone just doesn't *get it*
> but it's useful to remember that email is hard because you can't see
> the circumstances of the person on the other end. That's also one of
> the reasons why these threads keep asking for technical details / accuracy:
> whenever these sorts of questions get asked, we're using guesswork because
> we can't see over your shoulder.
>
> With every good wish, as ever,
>
> Andy Cater
> [amaca...@debian.org]
>
>

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon.
Thank You for the URL:

There are many URLs on that page,
but I did download the wrong one.

Wich one is the good one?

Regards
Thank You

Sophie




Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. April 2023 09:11
Bis: Schwibinger Michael
Cc: David; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 09:08:52AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
>
> Thank You
> What is the problem with mutt?

Mutt has no problems.

> Is there a DEBIAN URL
> where I can find drivers for printers?

Start here: https://wiki.debian.org/Printing

--
t

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
How can I do more structure?
Thank You

Regards

Sophie



Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 11:33
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:28:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 2023-04-14 at 19:17, Brian wrote:

[...]

> > That's an issue for the OP, not me.
>
> Certainly. I was meaning that bullet-point item as an addendum to the
> list you provided (which I understand to have been aimed at the OP), not
> as something directed at you.

Apologies. I should have taken more notice of the structure of your mail.

--
Brian.

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusing the wrong driver

[Curt]

On 2023-04-24, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:44 PM Curt  wrote:
>> [ ...]
>>
>> I bought a HL-L2350DW not too long ago after my HL-2030 experienced a paper 
>> jam
>> that wouldn't go away even though there was no longer any visible paper
>> stuck anywhere and in my infinite patience I kind of ripped the thing
>> apart and tossed the now definitively broken hunk of machinery into the
>> trash. And this after many years of loyal service. Never turn on me,
>> bro!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsSr3z5nVk
>
>

That's it!

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

Is the problem the printer or Sophie?


Can DEBIAN itself find a printerdriver?


Regards
Sophie



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Samstag, 15. April 2023 10:04
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:17:23AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> Why not just everyone attack each other?
>
> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
>
> ..
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> ..
>

Agreed: in this instance, however, we've had a series of emails from this
person in the past. Most of them don't reset a subject so go on a long time
on various subjects in the same thread.

That said: people - please remember that this list is subject to the Code
of Conduct. Part of that involves being constructive and helpful: sniping
doesn't really help at all.

We are all human and can get annoyed when someone just doesn't *get it*
but it's useful to remember that email is hard because you can't see
the circumstances of the person on the other end. That's also one of
the reasons why these threads keep asking for technical details / accuracy:
whenever these sorts of questions get asked, we're using guesswork because
we can't see over your shoulder.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater
[amaca...@debian.org]

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusing the wrong driver

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:44 PM Curt  wrote:
> [ ...]
>
> I bought a HL-L2350DW not too long ago after my HL-2030 experienced a paper 
> jam
> that wouldn't go away even though there was no longer any visible paper
> stuck anywhere and in my infinite patience I kind of ripped the thing
> apart and tossed the now definitively broken hunk of machinery into the
> trash. And this after many years of loyal service. Never turn on me,
> bro!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjsSr3z5nVk

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusing the wrong driver

[Curt]

On 2023-04-24, gene heskett  wrote:
> On 4/24/23 09:36, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Good afternoon
>> 
>> Thank You
>> Was it a good idea to buy EPSON?
>> 
>> Regards
>> Sophie
>> 
>
> In a short answer no. Epson worked very well but that way back, 20 years 
> ago.
>
> For high quality output, Brother is hard to beat, and has drivers for 
> linux that Just Work. I have 2 Brothers, an HLL2320 laser for fast 
> duplex output in B, about 20 pages a minute, and a now several years 
> old MFC-J6920DW, an ink-jet that can handle up to tabloid paper in its 
> printer and in its scanner, and the scanner can do duplex with letter or 
> A4 material as it has an ADF feeder. This printer is both huge and gives 
> very high quality photo outputs with every option it has being usable 
> with the Debian bullseye I'm running here.
>

I bought a HL-L2350DW not too long ago after my HL-2030 experienced a paper jam
that wouldn't go away even though there was no longer any visible paper
stuck anywhere and in my infinite patience I kind of ripped the thing
apart and tossed the now definitively broken hunk of machinery into the
trash. And this after many years of loyal service. Never turn on me,
bro!

The new one's quicker and nicer and wireless and does duplex and works with my 
phone.
Easy set-up on a hybrid, Windows-Linux LAN.

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you areusing the wrong driver

[gene heskett]

On 4/24/23 09:36, Schwibinger Michael wrote:



Good afternoon

Thank You
Was it a good idea to buy EPSON?

Regards
Sophie



In a short answer no. Epson worked very well but that way back, 20 years 
ago.


For high quality output, Brother is hard to beat, and has drivers for 
linux that Just Work. I have 2 Brothers, an HLL2320 laser for fast 
duplex output in B, about 20 pages a minute, and a now several years 
old MFC-J6920DW, an ink-jet that can handle up to tabloid paper in its 
printer and in its scanner, and the scanner can do duplex with letter or 
A4 material as it has an ADF feeder. This printer is both huge and gives 
very high quality photo outputs with every option it has being usable 
with the Debian bullseye I'm running here.


Accessible from USB or from a cat5 connection you can set for your own 
home network. Their installer is a script you can run, telling it what 
printer you have, it then goes to their site, downloads the proper 
driver and installs it in the cups menu's.  The USB connection is faster 
though.


Brother's ink-jet's will use a wee bit more ink than some because if 
powered up full time, will do a quiet nozzle clean at least daily, and 
my MFC-J6920-DW has never had a clogged nozzle in 7 or 8 years now.


Something I can't say for my own history with several Epson's years ago. 
Aftermarket, lower priced ink has been 100% usable but their inks give 
truer color. An ink-jet that Just Works has been a breath of fresh air 
here for quite a while now.


An no, I don't work for or own any Brother stock. I'm just a 21 year 
retired television station chief engineer. I think that makes me an old 
coot. Take care and stay well Sophie


[...]

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

Thank You
Was it a good idea to buy EPSON?

Regards
Sophie




Von: The Wanderer
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 23:28
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On 2023-04-14 at 19:17, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:06:08 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-04-14 at 18:52, Brian wrote:

>>> The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its
>>> correct name as well as any other relevant information?
>>
>> When I searched for
>>
>> Epson ET M 1120
>>
>> I got a suggestion that I may have meant "M1120" instead of the
>> last two search terms, and hits for the "Epson EcoTank ET M1120"
>> and/or "Epson EcoTank M1120", which look to be different names for
>> the same model and to be a fairly clear match.
>>
>> While, yes, specifying the exact name clearly would be preferable,
>> this is far from unreasonably difficult to figure out.
>
> I decided to take your signature as a template for my original
> response :).

I can respect that!

>>> I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in
>>> mutt was used at this end.
>>
>> Your replies to the OP have been fine, AFAIK. The OP's message was
>> itself a reply, as can be seen by looking at its headers
>> (In-Reply-To: and References:), but was otherwise presented as if
>> it had been the start of a new thread; that is not fine, because it
>> hides the "new thread" inside of the existing one, at least for
>> anyone using a threaded view of the list of messages.
>
> That's an issue for the OP, not me.

Certainly. I was meaning that bullet-point item as an addendum to the
list you provided (which I understand to have been aimed at the OP), not
as something directed at you.

--
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[tomas]

Good morning, Mr. or Mrs. Schwibinger

your mail provider (hotmail.com) doesn't like my mails.

Please complain to them, as I am not able to help you
with your problems.

Regards
-- 
tomás


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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[tomas]

On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 09:08:52AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
> 
> Thank You
> What is the problem with mutt?

Mutt has no problems.

> Is there a DEBIAN URL
> where I can find drivers for printers?

Start here: https://wiki.debian.org/Printing

-- 
t


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AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You
What is the problem with mutt?

Is there a DEBIAN URL
where I can find drivers for printers?

Regards
Sophie



Von: David 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 23:22
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri, 2023-04-14 at 23:52 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:22:09 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> > On 2023-04-14 at 18:10, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 14:40:33 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good afternoon.
> > > > The new printer is not  working.
> > > > EPSON is saying
> > > > You cant use EPSON with Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Is this true?
> > >
> > > You could consider:
> > >
> > >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
> > >   * Giving the printer make and model.
> >
> > The make *was* stated: Epson.
> >
> > The model may also have been stated, albeig only in the Subject
> > line: ET
> > M1120. From a bit of Googling, the "ET" appears to stand for
> > "EcoTank".
>
> The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist.

Yes, it does.
It doesn't take a quantum leap in realisation to identify it as ET-
M1120.

>  Do we have to guess its correct name as well
> as any other relevant information?
>
> > >   * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
> > >   * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.
> >
> > Also:
> >
> > * Starting a new thread to discuss the matter, rather than replying
> > to
> > an existing message deep in an existing thread, deleting the body,
> > and
> > changing the Subject line before sending.
> >
> > (This question, and its replies, are appearing as responses to a
> > mail
> > from Michael Stone in the 'update-initramfs' thread.)
>
> I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in mutt
> was used at
> this end.
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[chris]

Another runaway thread that never ends lol

On Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 10:25 AM Curt  wrote:

> On 2023-04-15, Brian  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It is the OP who needs help, not me. She couls at least provide
> correct and full date.
> >> >
> >> Why not just everyone attack each other?
> >
> > There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.
> >
> >> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
> >
> > It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.
> >
>
> When you're Under Down, everything looks like a pillow fight.
>
>
>
>

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Curt]

On 2023-04-15, Brian  wrote:
>> > 
>> > It is the OP who needs help, not me. She couls at least provide correct 
>> > and full date.
>> > 
>> Why not just everyone attack each other?
>
> There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.
>
>> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
>
> It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.
>

When you're Under Down, everything looks like a pillow fight.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Hello
Thank You
What shall I do
to be able to print?
Regards
Sophie

Why does Linux support HP?


Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 23:17
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:06:08 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 2023-04-14 at 18:52, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:22:09 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-04-14 at 18:10, Brian wrote:
>
> >> > You could consider:
> >> >
> >> >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
> >> >   * Giving the printer make and model.
> >>
> >> The make *was* stated: Epson.
> >>
> >> The model may also have been stated, albeig only in the Subject line: ET
> >> M1120. From a bit of Googling, the "ET" appears to stand for "EcoTank".
> >
> > The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its correct name as 
> > well
> > as any other relevant information?
>
> When I searched for
>
> Epson ET M 1120
>
> I got a suggestion that I may have meant "M1120" instead of the last two
> search terms, and hits for the "Epson EcoTank ET M1120" and/or "Epson
> EcoTank M1120", which look to be different names for the same model and
> to be a fairly clear match.
>
> While, yes, specifying the exact name clearly would be preferable, this
> is far from unreasonably difficult to figure out.

I decided to take your signature as a template for my original response :).

> >> >   * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
> >> >   * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.
> >>
> >> Also:
> >>
> >> * Starting a new thread to discuss the matter, rather than replying
> >> to an existing message deep in an existing thread, deleting the
> >> body, and changing the Subject line before sending.
> >>
> >> (This question, and its replies, are appearing as responses to a
> >> mail from Michael Stone in the 'update-initramfs' thread.)
> >
> > I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in mutt
> > was used at this end.
>
> Your replies to the OP have been fine, AFAIK. The OP's message was
> itself a reply, as can be seen by looking at its headers (In-Reply-To:
> and References:), but was otherwise presented as if it had been the
> start of a new thread; that is not fine, because it hides the "new
> thread" inside of the existing one, at least for anyone using a threaded
> view of the list of messages.

That's an issue for the OP, not me.

--
Brian.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning
Thank You
Is the problem
I did make the wrong ,,blank,, ?

I am sorry.


Regards Sophie





Von: The Wanderer
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 23:06
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On 2023-04-14 at 18:52, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:22:09 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-04-14 at 18:10, Brian wrote:

>> > You could consider:
>> >
>> >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
>> >   * Giving the printer make and model.
>>
>> The make *was* stated: Epson.
>>
>> The model may also have been stated, albeig only in the Subject line: ET
>> M1120. From a bit of Googling, the "ET" appears to stand for "EcoTank".
>
> The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its correct name as 
> well
> as any other relevant information?

When I searched for

Epson ET M 1120

I got a suggestion that I may have meant "M1120" instead of the last two
search terms, and hits for the "Epson EcoTank ET M1120" and/or "Epson
EcoTank M1120", which look to be different names for the same model and
to be a fairly clear match.

While, yes, specifying the exact name clearly would be preferable, this
is far from unreasonably difficult to figure out.

>> >   * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
>> >   * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> * Starting a new thread to discuss the matter, rather than replying
>> to an existing message deep in an existing thread, deleting the
>> body, and changing the Subject line before sending.
>>
>> (This question, and its replies, are appearing as responses to a
>> mail from Michael Stone in the 'update-initramfs' thread.)
>
> I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in mutt
> was used at this end.

Your replies to the OP have been fine, AFAIK. The OP's message was
itself a reply, as can be seen by looking at its headers (In-Reply-To:
and References:), but was otherwise presented as if it had been the
start of a new thread; that is not fine, because it hides the "new
thread" inside of the existing one, at least for anyone using a threaded
view of the list of messages.

--
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

"I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in mutt was used at
this end."

Hello

I am confused.

Its said
You can use any driver from EPSON
to use a printer.

Bit it is not working.

I did open GEDIT
ordered "PRINT"
but no reaction.

Regards
Sophie


Thank You.





Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 22:52
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:22:09 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 2023-04-14 at 18:10, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 14:40:33 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> >
> >> Good afternoon.
> >> The new printer is not  working.
> >> EPSON is saying
> >> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
> >>
> >> Is this true?
> >
> > You could consider:
> >
> >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
> >   * Giving the printer make and model.
>
> The make *was* stated: Epson.
>
> The model may also have been stated, albeig only in the Subject line: ET
> M1120. From a bit of Googling, the "ET" appears to stand for "EcoTank".

The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its correct name as well
as any other relevant information?

> >   * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
> >   * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.
>
> Also:
>
> * Starting a new thread to discuss the matter, rather than replying to
> an existing message deep in an existing thread, deleting the body, and
> changing the Subject line before sending.
>
> (This question, and its replies, are appearing as responses to a mail
> from Michael Stone in the 'update-initramfs' thread.)

I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in mutt was used at
this end.

--
Brian.

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 19/4/23 17:14, Schwibinger Michael wrote:


Good morning

Thank You.

What did I do wrong.

On the printer there is written

ET M 1120.

If this is wrong
what is the right name?

Its made by EPSON

Regards
Sophie



I think your problem is you have to change the driver your system 
already has to the new standard Epson driver.


You should ask how to do this on the Debian German list 
debian-user-ger...@lists.debian.org


--
Jeremy
(Lists)

Re: AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 19/4/23 17:14, Schwibinger Michael wrote:


Good morning

Thank You.

What did I do wrong.

On the printer there is written

ET M 1120.

If this is wrong
what is the right name?


The Epson ET-M1120 printer supports the Epson ESC/P-R printer language, 
which is a command protocol used by Epson printers.


To install the printer driver for Linux, you can follow these steps:

Connect the printer to your computer and make sure it is turned on.
Open your Linux terminal and run the following command to update your 
system package list:


sudo apt-get update

Install the printer driver by running the following command:

sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr

Follow the on-screen instructions to complete the installation.

--
Jeremy
(Lists)

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning

Thank You.

What did I do wrong.

On the printer there is written

ET M 1120.

If this is wrong
what is the right name?

Its made by EPSON

Regards
Sophie


Von: The Wanderer
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 23:28
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On 2023-04-14 at 19:17, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:06:08 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 2023-04-14 at 18:52, Brian wrote:

>>> The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its
>>> correct name as well as any other relevant information?
>>
>> When I searched for
>>
>> Epson ET M 1120
>>
>> I got a suggestion that I may have meant "M1120" instead of the
>> last two search terms, and hits for the "Epson EcoTank ET M1120"
>> and/or "Epson EcoTank M1120", which look to be different names for
>> the same model and to be a fairly clear match.
>>
>> While, yes, specifying the exact name clearly would be preferable,
>> this is far from unreasonably difficult to figure out.
>
> I decided to take your signature as a template for my original
> response :).

I can respect that!

>>> I haven't a clue what you are going on about here. Shift-L in
>>> mutt was used at this end.
>>
>> Your replies to the OP have been fine, AFAIK. The OP's message was
>> itself a reply, as can be seen by looking at its headers
>> (In-Reply-To: and References:), but was otherwise presented as if
>> it had been the start of a new thread; that is not fine, because it
>> hides the "new thread" inside of the existing one, at least for
>> anyone using a threaded view of the list of messages.
>
> That's an issue for the OP, not me.

Certainly. I was meaning that bullet-point item as an addendum to the
list you provided (which I understand to have been aimed at the OP), not
as something directed at you.

--
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
How do I do driverless printing?

Thank You
Regards
Sophie



Von: Stefan Monnier 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 22:33
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

>> The new printer is not  working.
>> EPSON is saying
>> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
>>
>> Is this true?
>
> You could consider:
>
>   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
>   * Giving the printer make and model.

"Subject:" says "EPSON ET M 1120"
AFAICT it's a monochrome printer from 2019 with some kind of ink tank.
Given the timescale, it probably supports driverless printing.


Stefan

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good morning
Thank You.

I dont understand this email.

Is there a different driver software for

32 bit
64 bit?


Can You inform me about both, please.

Regards
Sophie



Von: The Wanderer
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 22:22
Bis: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On 2023-04-14 at 18:10, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 14:40:33 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon.
>> The new printer is not  working.
>> EPSON is saying
>> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
>>
>> Is this true?
>
> You could consider:
>
>   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
>   * Giving the printer make and model.

The make *was* stated: Epson.

The model may also have been stated, albeig only in the Subject line: ET
M1120. From a bit of Googling, the "ET" appears to stand for "EcoTank".

>   * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
>   * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.

Also:

* Starting a new thread to discuss the matter, rather than replying to
an existing message deep in an existing thread, deleting the body, and
changing the Subject line before sending.

(This question, and its replies, are appearing as responses to a mail
from Michael Stone in the 'update-initramfs' thread.)

--
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

I do use USB 2.0.

The printer  EPSON ET M 1120

Debian is Debian 11 LXDE.


This is the message.

 If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

Regards
Thank You

Sophie



Von: Brian 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 22:10
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 14:40:33 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:

> Good afternoon.
> The new printer is not  working.
> EPSON is saying
> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
>
> Is this true?

You could consider:

  * Stating the Debain OS being used.
  * Giving the printer make and model.
  * Specifying the connection method. USB. Network.
  * Giving the exact error message and where it came from.

--
Brian.

Re: On strange threads [was: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer...]

[davidson]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 08:44:20PM +0100, Brian wrote:

[...]


Tongue. Boots. Lick.


This was banter. And you trimmed away the truly funny bit.


You must be a pretty unhappy person. Pity you.


This was pain.

Pity us all. Humor is the favorite child of pain and misery.

None of us are as happy as we'd like, and even humor takes some
practice.

On both ends.

--
Hackers are free people. They are like artists. If they are in a good
mood, they get up in the morning and begin painting their pictures.
-- Vladimir Putin

Re: On strange threads [was: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer...]

[tomas]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 08:44:20PM +0100, Brian wrote:

[...]

> Tongue. Boots. Lick.

You must be a pretty unhappy person. Pity you.

Cheers
-- 
t


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Bret Busby]

On 16/4/23 06:14, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 4:26 PM Bret Busby  wrote:


On 16/4/23 03:57, Bret Busby wrote:

On 15/4/23 19:41, Brian wrote:




Why not just everyone attack each other?


There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.


This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.


It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.


Perhaps you should try to convince the others who have also seen the
sandpit fight.


It's nothing a Plonk won't fix :)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=usenet+plonk+killfile

Jeff

Or, I suppose, a bottle of plonk (providing the drinker is away from, 
and not thinking about, the aggression, when consuming the plonk) .


:)

(Disclaimer - I am not encouraging the drinking of plonk - I am a 
teetotaller)


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 4:26 PM Bret Busby  wrote:
>
> On 16/4/23 03:57, Bret Busby wrote:
> > On 15/4/23 19:41, Brian wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>> Why not just everyone attack each other?
> >>
> >> There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.
> >>
> >>> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
> >>
> >> It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.
> >
> > Perhaps you should try to convince the others who have also seen the
> > sandpit fight.

It's nothing a Plonk won't fix :)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=usenet+plonk+killfile

Jeff

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Bret Busby]

On 16/4/23 03:57, Bret Busby wrote:

On 15/4/23 19:41, Brian wrote:




Why not just everyone attack each other?


There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.


This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.


It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.



Perhaps you should try to convince the others who have also seen the 
sandpit fight.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..




And, a clear lack of respect has been shown, by the antagonists, for 
every other subscriber to the list.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Bret Busby]

On 15/4/23 19:41, Brian wrote:




Why not just everyone attack each other?


There have not been any attacks whatsoever on any users.


This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.


It only looks that way. In fact, everything is under control.



Perhaps you should try to convince the others who have also seen the 
sandpit fight.


..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
..

Re: On strange threads [was: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer...]

[Brian]

On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 15:32:30 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 12:50:16PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Given the time pattern of posts and the lack of any learning progress
> > in respect to proper asking Debian GNU/Linux questions i suspect that
> > the mails from h...@hotmail.com are not sent with sincere intentions.
> 
> This is a pretty strong assessment. Coming from you, I hesitate to
> dismiss it right away,

Tongue. Boots. Lick.

   >  but I'd still prefer to apply a healthy dose
> of Hanlon's razor.

Designating a user as stupid is a no-no in my book.

-- 
Brian.

On strange threads [was: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer...]

[tomas]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 12:50:16PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

[...]

> Given the time pattern of posts and the lack of any learning progress
> in respect to proper asking Debian GNU/Linux questions i suspect that
> the mails from h...@hotmail.com are not sent with sincere intentions.

This is a pretty strong assessment. Coming from you, I hesitate to
dismiss it right away, but I'd still prefer to apply a healthy dose
of Hanlon's razor.

Cheers
-- 
t


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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Brian]

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 18:33:26 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> >> The new printer is not  working.
> >> EPSON is saying
> >> You cant use EPSON with Linux.
> >> 
> >> Is this true?
> >
> > You could consider:
> >
> >   * Stating the Debain OS being used.
> >   * Giving the printer make and model.
> 
> "Subject:" says "EPSON ET M 1120"
> AFAICT it's a monochrome printer from 2019 with some kind of ink tank.
> Given the timescale, it probably supports driverless printing.

The EPSON ET M1120 does not come with enough intelligence to be certified
as AirPrintint-capable. Therefore, it may or may not be be a driverless
device. The printer would need to be queried and its attributes examined
to make a decision.

-- 
Brian.

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Brian]

On Fri 14 Apr 2023 at 19:28:19 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 2023-04-14 at 19:17, Brian wrote:

[...]
 
> > That's an issue for the OP, not me.
> 
> Certainly. I was meaning that bullet-point item as an addendum to the
> list you provided (which I understand to have been aimed at the OP), not
> as something directed at you.

Apologies. I should have taken more notice of the structure of your mail.

-- 
Brian.

AW: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
I ll answer all emails.

Thank You.

The name of the printer
is

ET M 1120 EPSON

The wrong software is:

epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.25-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb



EPSON said
EPSON does not accept Linux.
Is this true?


Regards
Sophie



Von: David 
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. April 2023 21:30
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using 
the wrong driver

On Fri, 2023-04-14 at 14:40 +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> The new printer is not  working.
> EPSON is saying
> You cant use EPSON with Linux.

It depends on which printer you are using?
It sounds like the person you are talking to at Epson doesn't know what
he/she's talking about.
Epson supply many Linux drivers for their printers on their site.
I have a WF-C5290 which works just fine that way.
Cheers!

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Bret Busby wrote:
> > Why not just everyone attack each other?
> > This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.

We should rather invest our time in a discussion whether CP/M was better
than DOS.


Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> in this instance, however, we've had a series of emails from this
> person in the past. [...]
> sniping doesn't really help at all. [...]
> We are all human and can get annoyed when someone just doesn't *get it*

But this particular poster is quite special.
About a year ago i too tried to help Sophie / Michael Schwibinger with
a question about "CD"
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/04/msg00742.html
but her/his replies in the thread caused me to ask for an explanation
why "Sophie" uses the mail address of a german amateur clown and IT
engineer, especially whether "Michael Schwibinger" is aware of this usage:
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2022/04/msg00964.html
No reply was received.

Given the time pattern of posts and the lack of any learning progress
in respect to proper asking Debian GNU/Linux questions i suspect that
the mails from h...@hotmail.com are not sent with sincere intentions.
They rather look like somebody is bored from time to time and throws a
pebble into the pond just to watch the ripples.
Just look at the photo on
  https://hbss.tripod.com/

I may be wrong. But it would be easy for Sophie / Michael Schwibinger
to explain the circumstances, which she/he did not do up to now.
So i think it is currently not worth to quarrel over these mails.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:17:23AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> Why not just everyone attack each other?
> 
> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.
> 
> ..
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> ..
>

Agreed: in this instance, however, we've had a series of emails from this 
person in the past. Most of them don't reset a subject so go on a long time
on various subjects in the same thread.

That said: people - please remember that this list is subject to the Code
of Conduct. Part of that involves being constructive and helpful: sniping
doesn't really help at all.

We are all human and can get annoyed when someone just doesn't *get it* 
but it's useful to remember that email is hard because you can't see
the circumstances of the person on the other end. That's also one of 
the reasons why these threads keep asking for technical details / accuracy:
whenever these sorts of questions get asked, we're using guesswork because
we can't see over your shoulder.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater
[amaca...@debian.org]

Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

[David]

On Sat, 2023-04-15 at 07:17 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 15/4/23 07:11, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 07:00:18 +0800, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 15/4/23 06:52, Brian wrote:
> > > > The EPSON ET M 1120 doesn't exist. Do we have to guess its
> > > > correct name
> > > > as well
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I asked ChatGPT3.5 about that text string. At least ChatGPT could
> > > figure it
> > > out
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > My Question
> > > 
> > > Linux printer driver and printer command protocol for epson ET M
> > > 1120 ?
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ChatGPT response
> > > 
> > > The Epson ET-M1120 printer supports the Epson ESC/P-R printer
> > > language,
> > > which is a command protocol used by Epson printers.
> > 
> > It is the OP who needs help, not me. She couls at least provide
> > correct and full date.
> > 
> Why not just everyone attack each other?
> 
> This looks like an uncontrolled pillow fight.

Agreed!
Specifically geared to somebody not coming back, or just going back to
using Windows.
Tone and manner are more than disorienting to a new user, and far from
helpful.
Cheers!