Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 13:46, Perry Thompson ryperven...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi all. I am using Debian Wheezy with Xfce4. After some testing with different DMs, I decided to start X from a tty using startx. I was told in the Debian IRC channel that it works fine by just removing all DMs. I enjoy using my computer this way, however I am unable to... 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Don't know about xfce, but as an alternative, if you have consolekit installed, then the following commands can be used to shutdown and reboot without needing root privileges. I forget where I got them from, but they work for me (I startx with openbox and no DM). dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit \ /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.action where action is either Stop for shutdown or Restart for a reboot. I put them in a script and call them from the openbox menu HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=mY+0EfjJOQCNp6aLxWfQZ=+4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 01:46:49 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and You might need xfce4-power-manager for this but I'm not sure. 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Install sudo. Use vigr to add yourself to the sudo group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110607093252.GB19914@desktop
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On 06/07/2011 05:32 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 01:46:49 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and You might need xfce4-power-manager for this but I'm not sure. 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Install sudo. Use vigr to add yourself to the sudo group. I have xfce4-power-manager and am in the sudoers list. This worked before when I had GDM, but not when I was without a DM or when I tried Slim or NODM. I have not been able to get this to work in any of those three situations. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dee3e93.1010...@yahoo.fr
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:06:59 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: On 06/07/2011 05:32 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 01:46:49 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and You might need xfce4-power-manager for this but I'm not sure. 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Install sudo. Use vigr to add yourself to the sudo group. I have xfce4-power-manager and am in the sudoers list. This worked before when I had GDM, but not when I was without a DM or when I tried Slim or NODM. I have not been able to get this to work in any of those three situations. Not sure if you already tried some of these tips: Handle acpi event for power button, show Xfce logout options http://wiki.xfce.org/tips#handle_acpi_event_for_power_button_show_xfce_logout_options Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.07.15.18...@gmail.com
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On 06/07/11 at 11:06am, Perry Thompson wrote: On 06/07/2011 05:32 AM, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 01:46:49 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and You might need xfce4-power-manager for this but I'm not sure. 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Install sudo. Use vigr to add yourself to the sudo group. I have xfce4-power-manager and am in the sudoers list. This worked before when I had GDM, but not when I was without a DM or when I tried Slim or NODM. I have not been able to get this to work in any of those three situations. in the sudoers list is a bit vague. Do you have the ability to run anything with sudo without password (not that I am recommending this at all)? Does xfce-session-logout know to run the shutdown command with sudo? Perhaps you should modify your custom keyboard shortcut to call sudo xfce4-session-logout instead. When run from a DM, these programs would have root permissions to shut down and reboot your computer. You need to give those permissions back somehow, and sudo seems the easiest way. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On 06/07/11 at 10:32am, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 01:46:49 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and You might need xfce4-power-manager for this but I'm not sure. 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Install sudo. Use vigr to add yourself to the sudo group. vigr aside, the sudo group does nothing by default. You don't need to be in it unless you've uncommented the line in sudoers to allow members of that group to do as they please. I don't recommend that use (v. little difference between that and running as root). -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 14:14:06 -0400, William Hopkins wrote: vigr aside, the sudo group does nothing by default. You don't need to be in it As I've just discovered. On my Wheezy xfce4 box I'd never got round to enabling Shutdown and Restart for a user. It turns out installing sudo is all I have to do. No membership of the sudo group at all, Which is what I've seen advised. (I've also seen it recommended to be a member of the powerdev group, but I'm not). So it's mystifying! All users get to shutdown the machine if sudo is on the it. Why don't you need to be in the group sudo? unless you've uncommented the line in sudoers to allow members of that group to do as they please. I don't recommend that use (v. little difference between that and running as root). The %sudo line in /etc/sudoers is uncommented by default. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110607185757.GE19914@desktop
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 19:57:57 +0100, Brian wrote: So it's mystifying! All users get to shutdown the machine if sudo is on the it. Mystery cleared up. I could have been more thorough in what I did and checked everything. Installing sudo ungreys the buttons in the session closing dialogue and rebooting or shutting down is permissable for users in the sudo group or if /etc/sudoers allows it. Otherwise permission is denied. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110607233156.GF19914@desktop
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 11:06:59 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: I have xfce4-power-manager and am in the sudoers list. This worked before when I had GDM, but not when I was without a DM or when I tried Slim or NODM. I have not been able to get this to work in any of those three situations. How about putting perry ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/lib/xfce4/session/xfsm-shutdown-helper in /etc/sudoers? You'd better check xfsm-shutdown-helper is in the location given. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110607234458.GG19914@desktop
Re: No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
On 2011年06月07日 19:44, Brian wrote: On Tue 07 Jun 2011 at 11:06:59 -0400, Perry Thompson wrote: I have xfce4-power-manager and am in the sudoers list. This worked before when I had GDM, but not when I was without a DM or when I tried Slim or NODM. I have not been able to get this to work in any of those three situations. How about putting perry ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/lib/xfce4/session/xfsm-shutdown-helper in /etc/sudoers? You'd better check xfsm-shutdown-helper is in the location given. I tried that and still no success. I tried it with my screen name, with %users, I tried adding ALL=(root) instead of just ALL=, all of which I found on websites. None of them worked. Any ideas why others have had success and not me? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deee0f5.3090...@yahoo.fr
No Display Manager + shutdown/reboot
Hi all. I am using Debian Wheezy with Xfce4. After some testing with different DMs, I decided to start X from a tty using startx. I was told in the Debian IRC channel that it works fine by just removing all DMs. I enjoy using my computer this way, however I am unable to... 1) shutdown my computer by pressing the power button, and 2) choose Shut Down or Restart after pressing ctrl+alt+del (I made a custom keyboard shortcut to call xfce4-session-logout). Both Shut Down and Restart are grayed out, but Log Out works fine. Is there any way I can have this do what I want while not using a display manager? Or would I really have to get one? I also tried nodm, but had the same problems. I would still rather not use a DM if possible. Please let me know all of my options and if a solution exists for my problem. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dedbb49.5040...@yahoo.fr
