Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
CHRIS M composed on 2024-06-23 21:36 (UTC-0500):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>> Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one
>> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on
>> forums.opensuse.org.

>> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is
>> futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
>> with debian mailing list posts.

>> :~(

> Sounds like its time to turn off Earthlink's Spam filtering

I would LOVE to, but cannot find a way to do so. The only option offered is to
make it more intrusive. It used to not be a problem, before DMARC, before the
Earthlink/Yahoo war to see who could blackhole more non-spam from each other.

John Hasler composed on 2024-06-23 21:41 (UTC-0500):

> Quit using EL email.  Use Pobox.  Yes, it costs money.  It's worth it.

I've been with EL 18 years, SeaMonkey longer (originally as Mozilla Suite, 
before
Firefox existed). EL is not free, but it doesn't shove IMAP at me. I like my 
email
addresses. My people have known them long, understand the word, and don't ask 
how
to spell it.
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata



Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Felix Miata wrote:
> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is
> futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
> with debian mailing list posts.

Quit using EL email.  Use Pobox.  Yes, it costs money.  It's worth it.
-- 
John Hasler 
j...@sugarbit.com
Elmwood, WI USA



Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread CHRIS M


On Sunday 23 June 2024 03:54:36 pm Felix Miata wrote:
>
> Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one
> of which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on
> forums.opensuse.org.
>
> Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is
> futile. The mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work
> with debian mailing list posts.
>
> :~(

Sounds like its time to turn off Earthlink's Spam filtering and teach 
SeaMonkey Mail, what *IS* spam and what is *NOT* and is HAM / good mail. 

I've got the time / and somewhat patience to sit down at each mail check with 
TDE KMAIL and teach TDE KMAIL what is GOOD / HAM emails, and what is NOT and 
is SPAM. #YMMV.
-- 

THANKS IN ADVANCE!
 
CHRIS

ch...@cwm030.com

~* Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q*~~*
*~~1 TB SSD*~~
~*15.5 GiB of ram*~
~~* Q4OS Trinity Edition* ~~

~FYI, TDE is a continuation of KDE 3.x ~
~ Q4OS is based off of the latest Debian Version~



Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam!

2024-06-23 Thread Stefan Monnier
[ Sent directly to debian-user@lists.  ]

> FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would 
> not
> see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so
> with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known
> spam" folder. The only ways I can see them are via the web archive, and by 
> opening
> webmail, so that I can extract them from "known spam".

My crystal ball suggests it's because I [read and] send them via Gmane,
and of course Gmane can't DKIM-sign my messages (and neither can my NNTP
client).


Stefan



Re: OT - list mail claimed to be "known" spam! (was: mounting external hard drive...)

2024-06-23 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan Monnier composed on 2024-06-23 12:35 (UTC-0400):
...
FWIW, this reply goes to list because I expect high probability Stefan would not
see it otherwise. Most mailing list posts flow through to me unimpeded. Not so
with Stefan's. AFAICT, every one of his is captured by Earthlink.net's "known
spam" folder. The only ways I can see them are via the web archive, and by 
opening
webmail, so that I can extract them from "known spam".

Stefan's isn't the only, but few others from any source become repeats, one of
which is every notification of new post added to subscribed thread on
forums.opensuse.org.

Trying to get EL to stop putting subscribed email into "known spam" is futile. 
The
mechanism EL provides to avoid such diversions doesn't work with debian mailing
list posts.

:~(
-- 
Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion,
based on faith, not based on science.

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata