Re: Problem with X when changing to console

2021-02-14 Thread IL Ka
Hi.
I am not familiar with nvidia, but I believe you need KMS/DRM mode:
(See modeset setting)
https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/396.51/README/kms.html

This was an idea behind the DRM/KMS: both Xorg and Framebuffer (graphical
mode linux command line console) work on top of the driver.

When crashed, does it write something to the console and/or logs?


On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:01 PM Hans  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> since some months I am looking for an issue and I hope, someone might know
> more and can help.
>
> The issue is the following: I am running plasma and Nvidia proprietrary
> driver. When I change to a console with CTL+ALT+F1, and after some seconds
> back with ALT+F7, then X has crashed.
>
> It looks for me, that the nvidia module was unloaded, and I am rather
> sure,
> that I made a setting in the past, where the nvidia module should be
> unloaded,
> when changing to a console.
>
> But the problem is: I can not remember any more, where I did this setting!
>
> Does anyone know, where this option can be set / unset?
>
> If this is a bug in the nvidia module (what I do not believe at the
> moment, as
> on my other computers this behaviour does not appear), please drop me a
> note.
>
> Thank you for any help and stay healthy
>
> Best regards
>
> Hans
>
>
>


Problem with X when changing to console

2021-02-14 Thread Hans
Hi folks,

since some months I am looking for an issue and I hope, someone might know 
more and can help. 

The issue is the following: I am running plasma and Nvidia proprietrary 
driver. When I change to a console with CTL+ALT+F1, and after some seconds 
back with ALT+F7, then X has crashed.

It looks for me, that the nvidia module was unloaded, and I am rather sure, 
that I made a setting in the past, where the nvidia module should be unloaded, 
when changing to a console.

But the problem is: I can not remember any more, where I did this setting! 

Does anyone know, where this option can be set / unset? 

If this is a bug in the nvidia module (what I do not believe at the moment, as 
on my other computers this behaviour does not appear), please drop me a note.

Thank you for any help and stay healthy

Best regards 

Hans




[SOLVED] emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread Default User
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:57 PM davidson  wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, davidson wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:
> [snip]
>
> >> dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
> >> [sudo] password for default:
> >
> > Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
> > privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
> > same information with
> >
> >  dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs
> >
> > and save yourself a password entry.
> >
> > (I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,
>
> *apt-get and apt-cache
>
> > never aptitude.)
> [big snip]
>
> > Then, in emacs, do
> >
> > M-x info
> >
> > This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
> > system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".
>
> I now see that GW Haywood has already pointed you to a version of the
> same document, posted on the web:
>
>
> https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/alpine.deb.2.21.2003191433310.9...@piplus.local.jubileegroup.co.uk
>
> --
>   The day will come  |  Last words, August Spies (1855--1887).
>   When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
>   More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
>   The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.
>


Davidson, thank you for the link to the information.

1)  Yes,  "dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs" does work just fine. I guess
I just got into the habit of using "sudo" more than I really need to.

2)  The book is Second Edition (1996).  Almost a quarter of a century old,
but still quite useful, especially for a "mature" program like Emacs.

3)  I do have "emacs-common-non-dfsg" installed, and do have "non-free" in
my /etc/apt/sources.list.  I do use "info" from time to time, but I more
often use man pages, or just search online.

4)  The problem has been SOLVED.
I believe it was due to the insistence on Emacs on using
~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs to store the saved abbreviations, instead of
~/.abbrev_defs as suggested in the book.
I am guessing this is due to the change in recent years to using ".d"
supplemental directories.

The fix was to change a section of".emacs" from this (in the book):

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(read-abbrev-file "~/.abbrev_defs")
(setq save-abbrevs t)

to this:

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(setq save-abbrevs t)
(setq abbrev-file-name  "~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") ;; tell emacs where to
read abbrev definitions from . . .
;; (read-abbrev-file "~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") This line may be obsolete
[from "Learning GNU Emacs"]

[Note: it seems to work either with or without (read-abbrev-file
"~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs") being commented out].

So now "M-x write-abbrev-file" does seem to save the edited abbreviations
as it was supposed to all along.

I had mentioned that it was possible to manually
edit ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs to remove the entry, and then
save ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs, as a work-around.

But if I should be able "To delete any abbreviation, delete the line for
that abbreviation and save the file by
typing M-x write-abbrev-file.", then I should be able to do so.

Anyway, problem solved.
Thanks to all for the help.


Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file

2020-03-19 Thread Default User
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:54 AM G.W. Haywood <
debian-b...@jubileegroup.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
> > "Learning GNU Emacs".
> > Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.
>
> Well I used to use that book, but that was 25 years ago.  Try this instead:
>
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Abbrevs.html#Abbrevs
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>


G.W., thanks for the link you provided to the Emacs information at
GNU.org.  I'm sure it will be quite helpful over time.


Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread davidson

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, davidson wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:

[snip]


dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
[sudo] password for default:


Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
same information with

 dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs

and save yourself a password entry.

(I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,


*apt-get and apt-cache


never aptitude.)

[big snip]


Then, in emacs, do

M-x info

This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".


I now see that GW Haywood has already pointed you to a version of the
same document, posted on the web:

  
https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/alpine.deb.2.21.2003191433310.9...@piplus.local.jubileegroup.co.uk

--
 The day will come  |  Last words, August Spies (1855--1887).
 When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
 More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
 The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.



Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-19 Thread davidson

On Wed, 18 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:


Hey, been working on this emacs problem all day.


It would have taken me all day just to write up such a meticulous
account.

TLDR; I have never used the "abbrevs" functionality of emacs. So, (fair
warning) you will not find a direct answer to your question in what I
say below.


I'm running Unstable, up to date.
Cinnamon DE.
64-bit.

dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
[sudo] password for default:


Just FYI, it would greatly surprise me if you actually needed root
privileges for aptitude's "show" command. I wager you could get the
same information with

  dummy@dummy:~$ aptitude show emacs

and save yourself a password entry.

(I am wagering, not promising, because I use apt-get exclusively,
never aptitude.)


Package: emacs
Version: 1:26.3+1-1

[snip]


I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
"Learning GNU Emacs".
Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.


I am sympathetic to reading older, slightly out-of-date sources of
documentation. I frequently do it myself. So I know that it can be
informative (sometimes in unexpected ways), and I know that at times
it has downsides as well, can add an extra layer of confusion, etc.

That said, if I were you, and if I had not done so already, I would
enable the non-free component in your sources.list, and then install
the (non-free) package "emacs-common-non-dfsg":

| emacs-common-non-dfsg - GNU Emacs common non-DFSG items, including the core 
documentation
|  This package includes the core Emacs documentation: the Emacs Info
|  pages, the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, and the Emacs Lisp Intro.
|  .
|  GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor.  This
|  package contains the architecture independent infrastructure that
|  is not compliant with the Debian Free Software Guidelines.  In
|  particular, this includes some of the GNU Emacs info pages, as they
|  are covered under the GFDL, and specify invariant sections.  See
|  http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 for more information.

This should give you the info pages version of the Emacs manual, which
contains a section on Abbrevs (under Advanced Features, I think).

Then, in emacs, do

 M-x info

This brings up a menu of info documentation properly installed on your
system. You'll want to traverse "Emacs" > "Abbrevs".

What little else I have to say would merely be bikeshedding or
poorly-informed speculation, so I'll stop here. Maybe I'll go read
about Abbrevs.

I hope this helps a little, while you're waiting for an emacs wizard
to show up.

Good luck with your project.

--
 The day will come  |  Last words, August Spies (1855--1887).
 When our silence will be   |  Hanged, by the U.S. state of Illinois,
 More powerful than |  alongside fellow journalists
 The voices you strangle today  |  Adolf Fischer and Albert Parsons.



Re: emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file

2020-03-19 Thread G.W. Haywood

Hi there,

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020, Default User wrote:


I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
"Learning GNU Emacs".
Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.


Well I used to use that book, but that was 25 years ago.  Try this instead:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Abbrevs.html#Abbrevs

--

73,
Ged.



emacs problem: M-x write-abbrev-file does not seem to work.

2020-03-18 Thread Default User
Hey, been working on this emacs problem all day.

I'm running Unstable, up to date.
Cinnamon DE.
64-bit.

dummy@dummy:~$ sudo aptitude show emacs
[sudo] password for default:
Package: emacs
Version: 1:26.3+1-1
New: yes
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Priority: optional
Section: editors
Maintainer: Rob Browning 
Architecture: all
Uncompressed Size: 76.8 k
Depends: emacs-gtk (>= 1:26.3) | emacs-lucid (>= 1:26.3) | emacs-nox (>=
1:26.3)
Provided by: emacs-gtk (1:26.3+1-1), emacs-lucid (1:26.3+1-1), emacs-nox
(1:26.3+1-1)
Description: GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting text editor. This is a
metapackage that will always
 depend on the latest recommended Emacs variant (currently emacs-gtk).
Homepage: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
Tags: devel::editor, role::dummy, role::metapackage, role::program,
suite::emacs, suite::gnu,
  use::editing

I'm trying to learn Emacs, using:
"Learning GNU Emacs".
Old, but it would still seem to be a reputable and authoritative source.

It says edit .emacs thus:

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(read-abbrev-file "~/.abbrev_defs")
(setq save-abbrevs t)

Emacs does NOT like that. It wants the read-abbrev-file to be in emacs.d
instead, and not a hidden file, so:

dummy@dummy:~$ ls ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs
-rw-r--r-- 1 dummy dummy 1020 Mar 18 16:38 /home/dummy/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs

and .emacs is like this:

dummy@dummy:~$ cat ~/.emacs
(custom-set-variables
 ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
 ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
 ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
 '(ansi-color-faces-vector
   [default default default italic underline success warning error])
 '(ansi-color-names-vector
   ["black" "red3" "ForestGreen" "yellow3" "blue" "magenta3" "DeepSkyBlue"
"gray50"])
 '(column-number-mode t)
 '(custom-enabled-themes (quote (whiteboard)))
 '(display-time-mode t)
 '(save-place-mode t)
 '(size-indication-mode t))
(custom-set-faces
 ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom.
 ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
 ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
 '(default ((t (:family "DejaVu Sans" :foundry "PfEd" :slant normal :weight
normal :height 181 :width normal)




;; insert date and time

(defvar current-date-time-format "%Y-%m-%d  %H:%M:%S  %Z  (%a)"
  "Format of date to insert with `insert-current-date-time' func
See help of `format-time-string' for possible replacements")

(defvar current-time-format "%H:%M:%S  (%a)"
  "Format of date to insert with `insert-current-time' func.
Note the weekly scope of the command's precision.")

(defun insert-current-date-time ()
  "insert the current date and time into current buffer.
Uses `current-date-time-format' for the formatting the date/time."
   (interactive)
   (insert (format-time-string current-date-time-format (current-time)))
   (insert "\n\n")
   )

(defun insert-current-time ()
  "insert the current time (1-week scope) into the current buffer."
   (interactive)
   (insert (format-time-string current-time-format (current-time)))
   (insert "\n\n")
   )

(global-set-key "\C-c\C-d" 'insert-current-date-time)
(global-set-key "\C-c\C-t" 'insert-current-time)


;; customizations manually added by me:

(setq column-number-indicator-zero-based nil)

(setq default-major-mode 'text-mode)
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)

(setq-default fill-column 79)

(setq-default flyspell-mode t)

(setq-default abbrev-mode t)
(read-abbrev-file "~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs")
(setq save-abbrevs t)


I re-start emacs in abbrev-mode (with .emacs, as above).
Now add a word abbreviation: C-x a i g [Enter]
teh [Enter]
the [Enter]
C-x C-c

Emacs saves it in ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs (not ~/.abbrev_defs, as shown in
book.)

Re-start emacs. It loads the word abbreviation from ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs,
and it works as expected.

BUT, now to REMOVE the word abbreviation from ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs . . .
The book says:
"You can edit the word abbreviation list by typing M-x edit-abbrevs
[Enter]".

Then (the book says):

"To delete any abbreviation, delete the line for that abbreviation and save
the file by
typing M-x write-abbrev-file."

So, do:
M-x edit-abbrevs [Enter]
then delete the entry in question,
then do:
M-x write-abbrev-file

It prompts with:
"Write abbrev file: ~/.emacs.d/"

At the prompt, I add "abbrev_defs" like this:
"Write abbrev file: ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs"
[Enter].

The prompt disappears, no error message. Good.
Then do:
C-x b to switch to default buffer.
Then do:
C-x C-c to exit emacs.

Now re-enter Emacs.
THE WORD ABBREVIATION I ENTERED STILL WORKS!
IT WAS NEVER REMOVED FROM ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs!

(Yes, I am shouting. After spending much of the day fighting with this, I
am not happy.)

Note: I can edit ~/.emacs.d/abbrev_defs, remove the entry, and 

Re: Dell Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

2019-08-15 Thread Charlie


Received from ernst on Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:10:55 -0400 Re: Dell
Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

> On Wed, 2019-08-14 at 14:20 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:11:34AM -0400, ernst doubt wrote:  
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > i had sent a message to debian-laptop a few hours back, but all
> > > i've
> > > seen so far is one response (suggesting i use q4os). i'm pretty
> > > committed to using debian directly though (at least until i've
> > > tried an
> > > awful lot more things).
> > > 
> > > After installing buster, this brand new laptop of mine seems to
> > > hang on
> > > X (GDM) starting -- after briefly showing a flashing underscore
> > > char in
> > > the top left corner of the screen, it drops back to command-line
> > > output
> > > (but doesn't allow me to login).  
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > It seems that your X server is giving up for some reason.
> > 
> > Not a graphics expert here, but you may get some hints by inpecting
> > the X log file (called typically Xorg.0.log -- it usually lives in
> > /var/log or perhaps in your home directory. Towards the end, you
> > might find some lines tagged with (EE) -- those are errors.
> > 
> > The content of that file might be of help to folks around here to
> > diagnose your problem.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > -- tomás  
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the help folks. i managed to solve it on my own. Pretty
> sure it was the linux-firmware-nonfree package that did it.
> 
> best,
> ~e

I stayed away from AMD Ryzen™ 5 2500U Mobile Processor with Radeon
after what I read about it, but did get a laptop with AMD graphics.
Probably will never do that again,

Installed Buster as legacy when it would not install EFI.

Required all these to to have it stop locking up:

firmware-linux 
firmware-linux-nonfree 
libdrm-amdgpu1 
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
llvm

Found them in various discussions and information on the web.

Maybe that will help someone else.

Charlie

East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc..
 http://www.egwildlife.com.au/

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Re: Dell Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

2019-08-14 Thread ernst doubt
On Wed, 2019-08-14 at 14:20 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:11:34AM -0400, ernst doubt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > i had sent a message to debian-laptop a few hours back, but all
> > i've
> > seen so far is one response (suggesting i use q4os). i'm pretty
> > committed to using debian directly though (at least until i've
> > tried an
> > awful lot more things).
> > 
> > After installing buster, this brand new laptop of mine seems to
> > hang on
> > X (GDM) starting -- after briefly showing a flashing underscore
> > char in
> > the top left corner of the screen, it drops back to command-line
> > output
> > (but doesn't allow me to login).
> 
> [...]
> 
> It seems that your X server is giving up for some reason.
> 
> Not a graphics expert here, but you may get some hints by inpecting
> the X log file (called typically Xorg.0.log -- it usually lives in
> /var/log or perhaps in your home directory. Towards the end, you
> might find some lines tagged with (EE) -- those are errors.
> 
> The content of that file might be of help to folks around here to
> diagnose your problem.
> 
> Cheers
> -- tomás


Thanks for all the help folks. i managed to solve it on my own. Pretty
sure it was the linux-firmware-nonfree package that did it.

best,
~e




Re: Dell Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

2019-08-14 Thread Dan Ritter
ernst doubt wrote: 
> After installing buster, this brand new laptop of mine seems to hang on
> X (GDM) starting -- after briefly showing a flashing underscore char in
> the top left corner of the screen, it drops back to command-line output
> (but doesn't allow me to login).
> 
> i'm booted into recovery mode right now and i've managed to get
> networking up and running (and installed emacs-nox and gpm, yay!) and
> i'm looking through /var/log/daemon.log from my failed boot last night.
> 
> My assumption is that there's probably some non-free firmware package i
> need to install (and maybe configure?)
> 
> 20 years ago or so i remember fighting with modelines entries in order
> to get X working, but i imagine things have changed.
> 
> This machine purportedly has:
> AMD Ryzen™ 5 2500U Mobile Processor with Radeon™ Vega 8 Graphics

This needs the amdgpu server:

xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
and
firmware-amd-graphics

and a reboot.

The primary log file for this should be /var/log/Xorg.0.log --
look for complaints there. It should explicitly recognize your
video chipset as an AMD Vega system and then produce lots of
output with the amdgpu prefix. If it doesn't, Xorg isn't firing
up the right driver and you may need to specify it.

-dsr-



Re: Dell Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

2019-08-14 Thread tomas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:11:34AM -0400, ernst doubt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> i had sent a message to debian-laptop a few hours back, but all i've
> seen so far is one response (suggesting i use q4os). i'm pretty
> committed to using debian directly though (at least until i've tried an
> awful lot more things).
> 
> After installing buster, this brand new laptop of mine seems to hang on
> X (GDM) starting -- after briefly showing a flashing underscore char in
> the top left corner of the screen, it drops back to command-line output
> (but doesn't allow me to login).

[...]

It seems that your X server is giving up for some reason.

Not a graphics expert here, but you may get some hints by inpecting
the X log file (called typically Xorg.0.log -- it usually lives in
/var/log or perhaps in your home directory. Towards the end, you
might find some lines tagged with (EE) -- those are errors.

The content of that file might be of help to folks around here to
diagnose your problem.

Cheers
-- tomás


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Dell Inspiron 17 3000 Series 3785 problem with X

2019-08-14 Thread ernst doubt
Hi all,

i had sent a message to debian-laptop a few hours back, but all i've
seen so far is one response (suggesting i use q4os). i'm pretty
committed to using debian directly though (at least until i've tried an
awful lot more things).

After installing buster, this brand new laptop of mine seems to hang on
X (GDM) starting -- after briefly showing a flashing underscore char in
the top left corner of the screen, it drops back to command-line output
(but doesn't allow me to login).

i'm booted into recovery mode right now and i've managed to get
networking up and running (and installed emacs-nox and gpm, yay!) and
i'm looking through /var/log/daemon.log from my failed boot last night.

My assumption is that there's probably some non-free firmware package i
need to install (and maybe configure?)

20 years ago or so i remember fighting with modelines entries in order
to get X working, but i imagine things have changed.

This machine purportedly has:
AMD Ryzen™ 5 2500U Mobile Processor with Radeon™ Vega 8 Graphics

If anyone has any suggestions or hints about how to proceed with
troubleshooting, i'm happy to share log files, chase down
documentation, install packages, edit configuration files or whatever
else is needed. i could also burn an ubuntu disk and boot that live to
see what i could learn from that experience (a web search seems to
indicate ubuntu would install fine on this laptop, but my preference is
to stick with debian).

thanks so much in advance,
~e





Problem with X or kdm

2013-08-19 Thread Ronald Púpala
Hi there. After upgrading to debian jessie happens to me, that instead 
of X me shining black screen,after switching back from console, and will 
help only restart kdm. Along with this there is some other problem. When 
I log into X s, below my username I unsubscribe and thus starts kdm 
login dialog, but if subsequently known son, or another user, and logs 
are on, a black screen, but it radiates as if kdm underneath was because 
when moving the mouse arrow cursor changes to a text cursor in locations 
where potentially could be fields for a user name and password. nothing 
in the logs. Only in kdm.log any mention of that dbus is not working. 
But apparently dbus running. I running on a Debian Jessie and notebook 
Acer Extensa with GC with  Radeon chipset. Met you by chance someone 
with such behavior? On internet I found nothing. I deleted the other 
users .kde  directories. Them where to log in to the system created a 
new, but no change. I don't know where is problem. Thank's for help.

Rony


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Re: Problem with X or kdm

2013-08-19 Thread Kent West

On 08/19/2013 01:25 PM, Ronald Púpala wrote:
Hi there. After upgrading to debian jessie happens to me, that instead 
of X me shining black screen,after switching back from console, and 
will help only restart kdm. Along with this there is some other 
problem. When I log into X s, below my username I unsubscribe and thus 
starts kdm login dialog, but if subsequently known son, or another 
user, and logs are on, a black screen, but it radiates as if kdm 
underneath was because when moving the mouse arrow cursor changes to a 
text cursor in locations where potentially could be fields for a user 
name and password. nothing in the logs. Only in kdm.log any mention of 
that dbus is not working. But apparently dbus running. I running on a 
Debian Jessie and notebook Acer Extensa with GC with  Radeon chipset. 
Met you by chance someone with such behavior? On internet I found 
nothing. I deleted the other users .kde  directories. Them where to 
log in to the system created a new, but no change. I don't know where 
is problem. Thank's for help.

Rony




I recently had some major KDE breakage; I finally fired up aptitude 
and did a search for kde (n for next instance; visually scan for a 
bold entry indicating an installed package, page down, n, repeat), 
deleting anything that looked KDE-ish.


Then did an aptitude update followed by an aptitude dist-upgrade, 
then did an aptitude install task-kde-desktop, and now have a working 
KDE again, although it looks considerably different to what I had 
previously. (Oh, in the process, I added unstable to my apt sources; I 
already had testing.)


I say all this to saythat I suspect there's some major KDE changes that 
don't always go well on an upgrade.


You can start a different Desktop Environment (DE) or Window Manager 
(WM) just to make sure X itself is working properly(and to give you a 
GUI, if you're more comfortable in that environment).


As always, your mileage may vary.


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Problem with X

2011-05-16 Thread pch0317

Hi,

I try start X on my computer but when i type startx screen freezes. I 
can see desktop but I can't move mouse cursor nor use keyboard.

First I installed basic debian system, then I installed xfce4.

lspci:
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M800 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge
00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID 
Controller (rev 80)
00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)
00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 81)

00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] 
(rev 78)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)


X -configure:
X.Org X Server 1.10.1
Release Date: 2011-04-15
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux junior 2.6.38-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 8 
13:51:57 UTC 2011 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-2-amd64 
root=UUID=28e5a1cb-af9d-4b03-bff6-c17ce707a6ce ro quiet

Build Date: 28 April 2011  12:13:00PM
xorg-server 2:1.10.1-2 (Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org)
Current version of pixman: 0.21.8
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed May 18 15:03:07 2011
List of video drivers:
radeon
i128
nouveau
intel
vmwlegacy
mga
r128
s3
openchrome
savage
trident
neomagic
vmware
mach64
cirrus
ati
tdfx
sis
ark
chips
rendition
tseng
s3virge
voodoo
sisusb
apm
siliconmotion
fbdev
vesa
(EE) Failed to load module vmwgfx (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) vmware: Please ignore the above warnings about not being able to to 
load module/driver vmwgfx
(EE) vmware: Unexpected failure while loading the vmwlegacy driver. 
Giving up.
(EE) Failed to load module vmware (a required submodule could not be 
loaded, 0)

(++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new
(==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
  Configuration failed.

It create xorg.conf.new

xorg.conf.new file:
Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
Screen  1  Screen1 RightOf Screen0
Screen  2  Screen2 RightOf Screen1
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath   /usr/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi
FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
FontPath built-ins
EndSection

Section Module
Load  glx
Load  dri2
Load  extmod
Load  record
Load  dbe
Load  dri
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
OptionProtocol auto
OptionDevice /dev/input/mice
OptionZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor1
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier   Monitor2
VendorName   Monitor Vendor
ModelNameMonitor Model
EndSection

Section Device

Re: Problem with X

2011-05-16 Thread Florian Snow


Hi!
Do you get a message during boot that udev failed to start? If so, try 
to delete /run and it should fix the problem.

Best regards,
Florian


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Re: Problem with X

2011-05-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 04:13:44PM +0100, pch0317 wrote:
 I try start X on my computer but when i type startx screen freezes.
 I can see desktop but I can't move mouse cursor nor use keyboard.
 First I installed basic debian system, then I installed xfce4.

It's possibly an issue with udev not triggering initialisation of
the input devices or some other device needed by X.  Try restarting
udev and checking the system logs.

You might want to check your system is up to date.  If it's unstable,
check if you have a /run directory and that you're using the latest
initscripts (2.88dsf-13.6), initramfs-tools (0.99) and udev.  There
was an issue with udev and /run a few weeks ago which could break
X in this manner.


Regards,
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Re: Problem with X

2011-05-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:17:54PM +0200, Florian Snow wrote:
 Do you get a message during boot that udev failed to start? If so,
 try to delete /run and it should fix the problem.

Now that /run is created and used by all system services, deleting
it is no longer advisable.  If you're using initscripts 2.88dsf-13.6
(now in unstable), /run is mandatory since it replaces /var/run and
/var/lock and is used by udev in early boot.


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Re: Problem with X

2011-05-16 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 16 May 2011 16:13:44 +0100, pch0317 wrote:

 I try start X on my computer but when i type startx screen freezes. I
 can see desktop but I can't move mouse cursor nor use keyboard. First I
 installed basic debian system, then I installed xfce4.

(...)

 (EE) Failed to load module vmwgfx (module does not exist, 0) (EE)
 vmware: Please ignore the above warnings about not being able to to load
 module/driver vmwgfx
 (EE) vmware: Unexpected failure while loading the vmwlegacy driver.
 Giving up.
 (EE) Failed to load module vmware (a required submodule could not be
 loaded, 0)

Hum... It warns you about a missing module related to the VGA driver of 
the vmware guest, is that right? :-?

In VirtualBox's guest additions this usually means that you updated the 
kernel on the client and did not recompiled the VGA module for the guest.

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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl wrote:
 Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome)
 mając skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to
 połączenie (np wywala się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie
 aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a dokładniej strasznie długo się
 odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś zrobić w sieci a
 potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.

Prawdopodobnie chodzi o DNS.
Co masz w /etc/hosts i /etc/hostname?

 Z tego co mi się wydaje to serwer X używa adresu 127.0.0.1 a ten
 przecież mam cały czas dostępny.

Lokalne aplikacje powinny raczej korzystać z gniazda rodziny UNIX, a nie
TCP/IP, więc to raczej nie jest kwestia X serwera.

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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread maciek986
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:59:38 +0100
Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl wrote:
  Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome)
  mając skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to
  połączenie (np wywala się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie
  aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a dokładniej strasznie długo się
  odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś zrobić w sieci a
  potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.
 
 Prawdopodobnie chodzi o DNS.
 Co masz w /etc/hosts i /etc/hostname?
/etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost laptop.local www.laptop.local mnm.laptop.local

/etc/hostname
laptop
 
  Z tego co mi się wydaje to serwer X używa adresu 127.0.0.1 a ten
  przecież mam cały czas dostępny.
 
 Lokalne aplikacje powinny raczej korzystać z gniazda rodziny UNIX, a nie
 TCP/IP, więc to raczej nie jest kwestia X serwera.

no tylko gdzie szukać przyczyny jak przejdę do konsoli (np Ctrl + Alt + F1) 
wszystko jest ok (tam oczywiście nie uruchamiam programów graficznych :) )
jak wyłączę interfejs sieciowy też wszystko śmiga (włącznie z programami 
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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread Krzysztof Kaczmar
Dnia 2009-08-05, o godz. 13:00:42
maciek...@interia.pl napisał(a):

 On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:59:38 +0100
 Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org wrote:
 
  On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl
  wrote:
   Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome)
   mając skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to
   połączenie (np wywala się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie
   aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a dokładniej strasznie długo się
   odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś zrobić w sieci a
   potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.
  
  Prawdopodobnie chodzi o DNS.
  Co masz w /etc/hosts i /etc/hostname?
 /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1   localhost laptop.local www.laptop.local
 mnm.laptop.local

Zobacz czy zmiania powyższej linijki na taką:

127.0.0.1 localhost laptop.local laptop www.laptop.local mnm.laptop.local

rozwiązuje Twój problem.

 /etc/hostname
 laptop



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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 01:00:42PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl wrote:
 On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:59:38 +0100
 Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org wrote:
 
  On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl wrote:
   Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome)
   mając skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to
   połączenie (np wywala się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie
   aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a dokładniej strasznie długo się
   odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś zrobić w sieci a
   potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.
  
  Prawdopodobnie chodzi o DNS.
  Co masz w /etc/hosts i /etc/hostname?
 /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1   localhost laptop.local www.laptop.local mnm.laptop.local
 
 /etc/hostname
 laptop

W takim razie spróbuj dorzucić samo laptop do tej linijki w /etc/hosts

   Z tego co mi się wydaje to serwer X używa adresu 127.0.0.1 a ten
   przecież mam cały czas dostępny.
  
  Lokalne aplikacje powinny raczej korzystać z gniazda rodziny UNIX, a nie
  TCP/IP, więc to raczej nie jest kwestia X serwera.
 
 no tylko gdzie szukać przyczyny jak przejdę do konsoli

Chyba brakło Ci tutaj jakiegoś znaku przestankowego :P

Do wyczajania takich rzeczy polecam strace.

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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread maciek986
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:30:24 +0200
Krzysztof Kaczmar arr...@o2.pl wrote:

 Dnia 2009-08-05, o godz. 13:00:42
 maciek...@interia.pl napisał(a):
 
  On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 08:59:38 +0100
  Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org wrote:
  
   On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 05:54:34PM +0200, maciek...@interia.pl
   wrote:
Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome)
mając skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to
połączenie (np wywala się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie
aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a dokładniej strasznie długo się
odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś zrobić w sieci a
potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.
   
   Prawdopodobnie chodzi o DNS.
   Co masz w /etc/hosts i /etc/hostname?
  /etc/hosts
  127.0.0.1   localhost laptop.local www.laptop.local
  mnm.laptop.local
 
 Zobacz czy zmiania powyższej linijki na taką:
 
 127.0.0.1 localhost laptop.local laptop www.laptop.local mnm.laptop.local
 
 rozwiązuje Twój problem.

Po dopisaniu laptop do /etc/hosts chodzi super. Dzięki za pomoc. 
Więc jednak TCP/IP a nie gniazda ?
Ktoś może coś jeszcze na ten temat napisać ?
 
  /etc/hostname
  laptop
 
 
 
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Re: Problem z X-ami

2009-08-05 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 5 sierpnia 2009 13:42 użytkownik maciek...@interia.pl napisał:


 
  127.0.0.1 localhost laptop.local laptop www.laptop.local mnm.laptop.local
 
  rozwiązuje Twój problem.

 Po dopisaniu laptop do /etc/hosts chodzi super. Dzięki za pomoc.
 Więc jednak TCP/IP a nie gniazda ?
 Ktoś może coś jeszcze na ten temat napisać ?
 
   /etc/hostname
   laptop



Przerabiałem problem z Xami i /etc/hosts bardzo dawno temu, i z tego co
pamietam to serwer Xów uzywa warstwy sieciowej do wewnetrzej komunikacji
uzywajac glownie hostname'a ktorego wpisales podczas instalacji. Jesli potem
grzebales w  /etc/hosts to system natrafia na nieresolvowalne nazwy i czeka
30s na przetlumaczenie. Po 30s wraca do starego dobrego home sweet home
czyli 127.0.0.1;)

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Problem z X-ami

2009-08-01 Thread maciek986
Witam.
Mój problem jest następujący. Gdy używam trybu graficznego (gnome) mając 
skonfigurowane połączenie z Internetem i nagle tracę to połączenie (np wywala 
się domyślna brama) to wówczas wszystkie aplikacje mulą mi niemiłosiernie, a 
dokładniej strasznie długo się odpalają, tak jakby mój komp najpierw chciał coś 
zrobić w sieci a potem dopiero uruchamia mi aplikację.
Z tego co mi się wydaje to serwer X używa adresu 127.0.0.1 a ten przecież mam 
cały czas dostępny.
Podobna sytuacja ma miejsce gdy używam iplusa (wysokie pingi) wtedy też wszysto 
się muli przy odpalaniu.

Miał ktoś podobną sytuację ?
w PLD tego nie miałem

Może jakiś konfigurator używa zamiast 127.0.0.1 jakiego innego adresu.

Pozdrawiam

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Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:

Andrei Popescu wrote:

changing /etc/default/console-setup should be enough, xorg.conf
is ignored.


Aah.. That explains it.


Restart hal, at least in theory.


Yes, in theory. In practice it may be different. I restarted it by
means of /etc/init.d/hal restart, and got some weird results.

It is also possible to make X ignore evdev altogether by setting
in the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf:

  Option AutoAddDevices off

Then you get the old behaviour back. xorg.conf again determines
what is going on. Of course without the benefits of evdev. But I
do not know what these benefits are anyway, so I do not miss them!



In theory, again. I added the 'Option AutoAddDevices off' but the 
odd behavior of 2 arrow keys not repeating never ceased.


The latest X is a mess for my purposes:
http://bugs.debian.org/525736

Hugo


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Re: Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-23 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Andrei Popescu wrote:
 changing /etc/default/console-setup should be enough, xorg.conf
 is ignored.

Aah.. That explains it.

 Restart hal, at least in theory.

Yes, in theory. In practice it may be different. I restarted it by
means of /etc/init.d/hal restart, and got some weird results.

It is also possible to make X ignore evdev altogether by setting
in the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf:

  Option AutoAddDevices off

Then you get the old behaviour back. xorg.conf again determines
what is going on. Of course without the benefits of evdev. But I
do not know what these benefits are anyway, so I do not miss them!

Regards, Jan


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Re: Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,23.May.09, 13:37:00, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 
  Restart hal, at least in theory.
 
 Yes, in theory. In practice it may be different. I restarted it by
 means of /etc/init.d/hal restart, and got some weird results.

Yes, that's why I said in theory. You did restart X after restarting 
hal, did you? I hope these quirks get solved until squeeze is released.

 It is also possible to make X ignore evdev altogether by setting
 in the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf:
 
   Option AutoAddDevices off
 
 Then you get the old behaviour back. xorg.conf again determines
 what is going on. Of course without the benefits of evdev. But I
 do not know what these benefits are anyway, so I do not miss them!

Having only one place to configure all inputs and having a clean way to 
configure each individual input (my laptop has both a trackpoint and a 
touchpad and sometimes I use an external mouse).

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-20 Thread Bruno Boettcher

- Jan Willem Stumpel jstum...@planet.nl a écrit :
  i use, whilst living in France, a german keyboard...
 
 You take the trouble to mention this: any special reason? For
 instance, do you want to type mostly French on a German keyboard?
exactly! and if you ask why: the french layout is completely out of my taste...

 KDE or Gnome have GUI utilities that will make the keyboard do
 what you want (i.e. without directly editing system files).
 Probably in something called System, Keyboard.
well my students call me dino... all that graphical stuff isn't really 
what i 
fancy, even if iy have to admit that having X running, that allows an 
impressive 
number of shells to be opened at the same moment and visible (still use screen 
though :D)
and if i see how much ram that stuff takes that isn't then available to my 
numerical simulations

 If (like me) you want to avoid using KDE/Gnome, you can *also*
 make the keyboard do what you want. The German keyboard is called
 de. It has several so-called variants:
i tried that in the xorg.conf without result

   setxkbmap de [-variant name of variant]
heh, never too old to learn new stuff! that did it!
and that's awesome! i directly integrated it into my bashrc
that does bypass all those automatisms that don't seem to work at the moment!
thanks a lot!


 You can use the setxkbmap command to experiment with keyboard
 layouts and variants. Once you have selected what you want, you
 can put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the keyboard section, in a
 slightly different format, using one line for the keyboard and
 another for the variant, e.g.:
 
   Option XkbLayout de
   Option XkbVariant deadgraveacute
well that's the stuff i tryed and that didn't work...
here's the section i tryed:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  XkbOptionsctrl:nocaps

EndSection

kbd is still on nodeadkeys...

but with the solution of setxkbdmap it works fine!

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Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-20 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Bruno Boettcher wrote:

 kbd is still on nodeadkeys...

It appears that the keyboard system in X has changed. There is now
something new and mysterious called evdev. To see if you have a
system with evdev, type

setxkbmap -print

and see if evdev is mentioned.

If it is, it seems that at the moment, to change the behaviour of
the keyboard, you must specify things not only in
etc/X11/xorg.conf, but *also* in /etc/default/console-setup. And
then you must reboot! Stopping and restarting X is NOT enough.
(There must be a better way though; I am going to investigate
this, because obviously my international keyboards and fonts
page needs serious updating.)

Regards, Jan





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Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-20 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,20.May.09, 22:45:23, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
 Bruno Boettcher wrote:
 
  kbd is still on nodeadkeys...
 
 It appears that the keyboard system in X has changed. There is now
 something new and mysterious called evdev. To see if you have a
 system with evdev, type
 
 setxkbmap -print
 
 and see if evdev is mentioned.
 
 If it is, it seems that at the moment, to change the behaviour of
 the keyboard, you must specify things not only in
 etc/X11/xorg.conf, but *also* in /etc/default/console-setup. And

changing /etc/default/console-setup should be enough, xorg.conf is 
ignored.

 then you must reboot! Stopping and restarting X is NOT enough.
 (There must be a better way though; I am going to investigate
 this, because obviously my international keyboards and fonts
 page needs serious updating.)

Restart hal, at least in theory.

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keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-19 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello

i have a problem on my debian machines lately concerning the keymapping
of the keyboard...
i use, whilst living in France, a german keyboard... 
from the beginning the default setting of no-dead-keys was annoying, but
with a leattle tweakiing and configuring i could get rid of that
annoying switch

now it seems impossible to activate the dead-keys...

as usual i reset the console keymap to use the normal de-latin1 mapping,
   and on the console i have the dead-keys
   but as of lately under X there seems no way to activate them

i edited the xorg.conf, also found on old discussions
/etc/default/console-setup where indeed was the dreaded
nodeadkeys-switch

i even made a grep on whole /etc to track down further occurences of
that damned setting, but couldn't find none

still, dead-keys aren't working

so, what possibilities remain to activate them? without redefining a
whole new keymapping, especially since the system seems to have changed?

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Re: keyboard mapping problem under X

2009-05-19 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Bruno Boettcher wrote:
 Hello [..]

 i use, whilst living in France, a german keyboard...

You take the trouble to mention this: any special reason? For
instance, do you want to type mostly French on a German keyboard?

 still, dead-keys aren't working

 so, what possibilities remain to activate them? without
 redefining a whole new keymapping, especially since the system
 seems to have changed?

KDE or Gnome have GUI utilities that will make the keyboard do
what you want (i.e. without directly editing system files).
Probably in something called System, Keyboard.

If (like me) you want to avoid using KDE/Gnome, you can *also*
make the keyboard do what you want. The German keyboard is called
de. It has several so-called variants:

 -basic (this is the default, which has several dead keys)
 -nodeadkeys (no keys are dead)
 -deadgraveacute (only grave and acute are dead)
 -deadacute (only acute is dead)
 -ro (includes special characters for Romanian. I don't know why
  this is included in a German keyboard description; maybe
  German keyboards are commonly used in Romania)
 -ro_nodeadkeys
 -... etc, etc, ...

See the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/de. The variants are
described in sections beginning with xkb_symbols.

You can select whatever variant you want by typing in a terminal
(e.g. xterm) window:

  setxkbmap de [-variant name of variant]

E.g.

  setxkbmap de -variant deadgraveacute

If you just want to use the basic variant, you just type

  setxkbmap de

You can use the setxkbmap command to experiment with keyboard
layouts and variants. Once you have selected what you want, you
can put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the keyboard section, in a
slightly different format, using one line for the keyboard and
another for the variant, e.g.:

  Option XkbLayout de
  Option XkbVariant deadgraveacute

This will make your selection (semi-)permanent.

There are many more possibilities for handling the keyboard in X
(not so many on the console). For instance, you can switch between
entirely different keyboard layouts by defining a special key. For
details, see below, sections 6.1 and 6.2.

Regards, Jan
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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-19 Thread charlie derr

Florian Kulzer wrote:

dibble:~# dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print 
$1,$2,$3}'
ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6


[...]

The other packages listed were up-to-date for Sid, but your libx11-6 is
way too old. (Even Etch/oldstable has version 2:1.0.3-7 already!)
Upgrade this package to 2:1.2-1 and restart gdm.



That did the trick, thank you so very much :-]


You probably should run

aptitude search '~o|~U'

to check for other obsolete/upgradable packages on your system.


I certainly will, thanks for that tip.

I really appreciate your help,
~c


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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-18 Thread charlie derr

Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

Try to change the above section (and restart gdm):

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us
EndSection

The keyboard driver has been superseded by kdb for a while; see the
remarks in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-kbd/NEWS.Debian.gz. The
xfree86 rules still exist as a legacy symlink, but it cannot hurt to
update the XkbRules line to xorg when you are editing the
configuration anyway.



Thanks for the quick reply.  Unfortunately the symptoms remain (only every 
other keystroke is registered in gdm).



If the new configuration does not solve your problem then I would like
to see the output of this command:

dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print $1,$2,$3}'



dibble:~# dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print 
$1,$2,$3}'
ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6
ii x11-apps 7.3+4
ii x11-common 1:7.3+18
ii x11-session-utils 7.3+1
ii x11-utils 7.4+1
ii x11-xfs-utils 7.4+1
ii x11-xkb-utils 7.4+2
ii x11-xserver-utils 7.3+5
ii xkb-data 1.5-2
ii xserver-xorg-input-all 1:7.3+18
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.0.8-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1:1.3.1-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1:1.3.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 0.14.7~git20070706-3
ii xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.8.1.6-1

thanks again for taking the time to look at this,
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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 18:24:23 -0400, charlie derr wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:
 [...]

 Try to change the above section (and restart gdm):

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  kbd
 Option  CoreKeyboard
 Option XkbRules xorg
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout us
 EndSection

[...]

 Unfortunately the symptoms remain (only every other keystroke is registered 
 in gdm).

[...]

 dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print 
 $1,$2,$3}'


 dibble:~# dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk 
 '/^i/{print $1,$2,$3}'
 ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6

[...]

The other packages listed were up-to-date for Sid, but your libx11-6 is
way too old. (Even Etch/oldstable has version 2:1.0.3-7 already!)
Upgrade this package to 2:1.2-1 and restart gdm.

You probably should run

aptitude search '~o|~U'

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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-17 Thread charlie derr

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 20:56:03 -0400, charlie derr wrote:
I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been running 
as Debian unstable for several years.  A week or so ago, after upgrading 
a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* and the kernel) I 
found that my keystrokes were not being properly registered (but only in 
X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions work fine).  Basically I 
found that on the gdm login screen when I hit a key nothing would happen, 
but the second time I hit it, the character would be rendered on my 
screen. Going on a hunch I tried to login by typing every character in 
both my username and password twice and it succeeded.  Once logged in (to 
KDE) things were worse (keystrokes were obviously being mapped to strange 
things, as I couldn't even get any letters to render in a konsole 
session). 


[...]





How is your keyboard configured? Please post the output of these two
commands (you can run them in a non-X terminal, e.g. CTRL+ALT+F1):


Thank you very much for the response.



awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf



n...@dibble:~$ awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xfree86
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us

EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Serial Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol Microsoft
Option  Device /dev/ttyS1
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
Option  Emulate3Timeout 70
Option  SendCoreEvents  true
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  PS/2 Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
Option  Device /dev/psaux
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
Option  Emulate3Timeout 70
Option  SendCoreEvents  true
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier  USB Mouse
Driver  mouse
#Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Device/dev/psaux
Option  SendCoreEventstrue
Option  Protocol  auto
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
Option  Buttons   5
EndSection



grep -i keyboard /var/log/Xorg.0.log




n...@dibble:~$ grep -i keyboard /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(**) Option CoreKeyboard
(**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
(**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: xfree86
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: pc105
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: us
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)



Thanks to anyone for any suggestions (or more requests for information).

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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 08:34:14 -0400, charlie derr wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 20:56:03 -0400, charlie derr wrote:
 I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been 
 running as Debian unstable for several years.  A week or so ago, 
 after upgrading a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* 
 and the kernel) I found that my keystrokes were not being properly 
 registered (but only in X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions 
 work fine).  Basically I found that on the gdm login screen when I 
 hit a key nothing would happen, but the second time I hit it, the 
 character would be rendered on my screen.

 [...]

 awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 n...@dibble:~$ awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  keyboard
 Option  CoreKeyboard
 Option XkbRules xfree86
 Option XkbModel pc105
 Option XkbLayout us

 EndSection

[...]

Try to change the above section (and restart gdm):

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc105
Option XkbLayout us
EndSection

The keyboard driver has been superseded by kdb for a while; see the
remarks in /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-kbd/NEWS.Debian.gz. The
xfree86 rules still exist as a legacy symlink, but it cannot hurt to
update the XkbRules line to xorg when you are editing the
configuration anyway.

If the new configuration does not solve your problem then I would like
to see the output of this command:

dpkg -l xkb\* x11-\* xserver-xorg-input\* libx11\* | awk '/^i/{print $1,$2,$3}'

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Re: weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 20:56:03 -0400, charlie derr wrote:
 I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been running 
 as Debian unstable for several years.  A week or so ago, after upgrading 
 a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* and the kernel) I 
 found that my keystrokes were not being properly registered (but only in 
 X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions work fine).  Basically I 
 found that on the gdm login screen when I hit a key nothing would happen, 
 but the second time I hit it, the character would be rendered on my 
 screen. Going on a hunch I tried to login by typing every character in 
 both my username and password twice and it succeeded.  Once logged in (to 
 KDE) things were worse (keystrokes were obviously being mapped to strange 
 things, as I couldn't even get any letters to render in a konsole 
 session). 

[...]

How is your keyboard configured? Please post the output of these two
commands (you can run them in a non-X terminal, e.g. CTRL+ALT+F1):

awk '/Section InputDevice/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf

grep -i keyboard /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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weird problem in X with recent sid packages

2009-03-13 Thread charlie derr
I have a machine that's quite old and underpowered that I've been running as Debian unstable for several years.  A week or so ago, 
after upgrading a bunch of packages (including lots of xserver-xorg* and the kernel) I found that my keystrokes were not being 
properly registered (but only in X -- the command line and remote SSH sessions work fine).  Basically I found that on the gdm 
login screen when I hit a key nothing would happen, but the second time I hit it, the character would be rendered on my screen. 
Going on a hunch I tried to login by typing every character in both my username and password twice and it succeeded.  Once logged 
in (to KDE) things were worse (keystrokes were obviously being mapped to strange things, as I couldn't even get any letters to 
render in a konsole session).  I'm not providing many specifics because I don't really have a clue where to look.  If someone can 
suggest a direction, I'd be happy to post configs, versions of packages or whatever.


The processor in this machine is an AMD-K6 500MHz

The kernel is 2.6.28-1-486 and while composing this message it occurred to me that I ought to try to boot back into my old kernel 
to see if the problem exists there, but due to all my upgrading I now get a kernel panic with a message stating kernel too old 
(the old kernel (that worked fine for many months if not years) was 2.6.17-1-486).


thanks much in advance for any guidance,
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keymap problem with X

2008-03-07 Thread Riccardo Magliocchetti
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Hi,

I can't get an usb keyboard working in X in debian etch. The x is started from
root user (not great i know). The keyboard works fine in virtual terminals.

I've tried to manually compile the keymap, but the link get deleted on X start.

setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc105 -layout it -print  server-0
xkbcomp server-0
ln -s ~/server-0.xkm /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm

This is the relevant configuration:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout it
EndSection

These are the errors from /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Generic Keyboard (type: KEYBOARD)
xkb_keycodes { include xfree86+aliases(qwerty) };
xkb_types{ include complete };
xkb_compatibility{ include complete };
xkb_symbols  { include pc(pc105)+it };
xkb_geometry { include pc(pc105) };
(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
xkb_types{ include % };
xkb_compatibility{ include % };
xkb_symbols  { include % };
xkb_geometry { include % };
(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm
xkb_types{ include % };
xkb_compatibility{ include % };
xkb_symbols  { include % };
xkb_geometry { include % };
(EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm

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Re: Upgrade problem: dpkg: 'x' not found on PATH

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and ran 'aptitude install' again for the failed packages and it was
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and ran 'aptitude install' again for the failed packages and it was
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and ran 'aptitude install' again for the failed packages and it was
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Upgrade problem: dpkg: 'x' not found on PATH

2007-09-26 Thread Nick De Graeve
I'm trying to upgrade a Sarge box to Etch and several dpkg: `x' not
found on PATH-errors occured.


I followed the instructions in the release notes
(http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-
upgrading.en.html):

I ran

# aptitude upgrade
# aptitude install initrd-tools
# aptitude install libfam0 xlibmesa-glu

When I ran the last command I noticed these errors:

[...]
Fetched 892kB in 2s (363kB/s)
dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /
sbin.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
Ack!  Something bad happened while installing packages.  Trying to
recover:
dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH.
dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /
sbin.
[...]

I checked and indeed, /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/ weren't in root's PATH
variable. (I fixed that now)

I suspected that these messages appeared in the previous commands too
and indeed, with the upgrade of initrd-tools it had similar errors.
For the 1st command I couldn't find the console output anymore but I
fear the worst.


What should I do?

Thanks.

Nick

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Re: Upgrade problem: dpkg: 'x' not found on PATH

2007-09-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:44:09PM +0200, Nick De Graeve wrote:
 I'm trying to upgrade a Sarge box to Etch and several dpkg: `x' not
 found on PATH-errors occured.
 
 I followed the instructions in the release notes
 (http://www.nl.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-
 upgrading.en.html):
 
 I ran
 
 # aptitude upgrade
 # aptitude install initrd-tools
 # aptitude install libfam0 xlibmesa-glu
 
 When I ran the last command I noticed these errors:
 
 [...]
 Fetched 892kB in 2s (363kB/s)
 dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
 NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /
 sbin.
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
 Ack!  Something bad happened while installing packages.  Trying to
 recover:
 dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH.
 dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
 NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /
 sbin.
 [...]
 
 I checked and indeed, /sbin/ and /usr/sbin/ weren't in root's PATH
 variable. (I fixed that now)
 
 I suspected that these messages appeared in the previous commands too
 and indeed, with the upgrade of initrd-tools it had similar errors.
 For the 1st command I couldn't find the console output anymore but I
 fear the worst.
 
 What should I do?

First, confirm that the commands that weren't in the path are at least
on the box.  Then, ensuring that the paths are correct, I would run
aptitude interactivly (text-based UI, not CLI) (perhaps after reading
the aptitude manual if you haven't already) and see if it says that
anything is broken.

Then, still from the UI, do an update.  See if there are any broken
packages (couted, if any, in the second line header), then search for
unconfigured packages (anything but a plain 'i' in the flag field).  

Once everything _appears_ correct, then do some serious testing.

As always, ensure that you have good backups.

Read the installation manual and if things don't work out rather
quickly, do a full reinstall.  

My first upgrade from Sarge to Etch failed (died while updating libc6)
and it was easier to reinstall.  Since then, I've just reinstalled; it
only takes 20 minutes or so.

Doug.


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Problem with X

2006-03-28 Thread Drake Mobius
Hi all,On my testing box, where a lot of installation/removal happens as I both 1) test new configs and 2) learn how to do things without fear of data loss, I've run into an issue with X windowsNo graphical/X apps appear to be able to open. Fluxbox doesn't report anything, but trying to open a graphical app from shell fails with:
Xlib: connection to :1 refused by serverXlib: No protocol specifiedSometimes multiple times per application. I do have Xauthority, I am running as user (not root), and my DISPLAY variable is set correctly. 
Any ideas folks?


The mouse erratic problem in X on AMD64 Debian Sarge box

2005-12-14 Thread Vicki Stanfield
I recently installed Debian Sarge on my AMD64 system. It all works fine
until I start X (have tried startx and gdm). When I move the mouse, it
jumps erratically around the screen. I have googled and found this
problem, but the solutions I have found didn't work for me. One was the
use of a fifo called gpmdata and the other was simply stopping gpm. Is
there a website for figuring out:

1) which packages are required for X to work (preferably gnome)
2) how to make the mouse behave

It is a logitech wireless mouse which works fine in my Slackware
installation. I have also tried using xorg instead of xfree86. I tried to
use the same config file that works on my Slack system too.

Vicki


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Re: XKB problem with x-terminal

2005-12-11 Thread Almut Behrens
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:22:30PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Almut Behrens wrote:
  On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:16:09PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
   Is there a way to compile keyboard definitions for X and save them
   somewhere, where XServer can read them, when it starts?
  
  $ xkbcomp -xkm :0 keymap.xkm
  Then, simply transfer the resulting keymap.xkm to your thinclient,
  where you can make the X server load it upon startup using the option
  -xkbmap keymap.xkm.
 
 Thanks a lot, I hadn't figured this one out. Unfortunately, if I start X
 with -xkbmap keymap.xkm, it says it doesn't like it!
 
 If I start X with -xkbdb keymap.xkm, it doesn't complain, but the
 keyboard doesn't behave properly :(

Not too surprising.  That option's value is assigned to some variable
XkbDB (in xc/programs/Xserver/xkb/xkbInit.c) which isn't used anywhere
else beyond this assignment, in the entire X sources.  Whatever that's
supposed to do, it isn't implemented yet ;)

The fact that -xkbmap doesn't work as advertised, isn't too surprising
either, 'cos I was telling rubbish  (yeah, next time, Almut reminds
herself to actually verify the stuff she's claiming...)

Well actually, this option does work, kind of, but not in a manner as
straightforward as on might expect.  However, I knew for sure I once
had it working already, so I've played around with it some more... 
Well, found lots of weird things.  But don't worry, I won't bore you
with the details.  Just a brief description of how I finally got it
working, after lots of strace'ing and poking around in the X sources.

All in all, I can't help getting the impression, that Simo and me are
to the only two people in this world who have ever tried to make use of
this -xkbmap option :)

My main observations:

* you can't keep the X server from wanting to call xkbcomp, even in the
presence of a perfectly valid compiled xkbmap.  At least, I dunno how.

* even though the output of the xkbcomp run isn't really used in this
case (AFAICT), it is good to have it succeed, superficially.  In case
of any failures in this step, a couple of other things are being tried
which eventually lead to a complete failure of the whole shebang.

* you are expected to specify the bare name of the keymap (without the
.xkm extension);  the X server looks for the map in certain predefined
directories (which do vary depending on which UID the server is started as)

* unless you have a dot in the keymap name, the X server deletes the
map before reading it.  No kidding.  This seems to be because the
path of the temporary output file (created during the useless run of
xkbcomp) is being set to where the real keymap is expected to be found.
And tempfile cleanup happens before the actual -xkbmap-related code
gets a chance to read it...  Luckily, there's some odd sanitizing
being applied to the tempfile name (replacing '.' by '_').  That allows
us to play tricks here:

1: 6929  execve(/usr/bin/X11/XFree86, [/usr/X11R6/bin/X, :1, -xkbmap, 
default.map], [/* 14 vars */]) = 0
2: 6930  execve(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp, 
[/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp, -w, 1, -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb, 
-xkm, -em1, The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (x..., -emp,  , -eml, 
Errors from xkbcomp are not fata..., keymap/default.map, 
compiled/default_map.xkm], [/* 14 vars */]) = 0
3: 6931  lstat64(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default_map.xkm, 0xba1c) 
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
4: 6931  stat64(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/default.map, 
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=7804, ...}) = 0
5: 6931  open(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/default.map, 
O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 6
6: 6931  open(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default_map.xkm, 
O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_LARGEFILE, 0100644) = 7
7: 6929  open(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default_map.xkm, O_RDONLY) = 6
8: 6929  unlink(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default_map.xkm) = 0
9: 6929  open(/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default.map.xkm, O_RDONLY) = 6

These are the relevant lines from the strace output when running X with
-xbkmap default.map (line numbers prepended).  As you can see, for
some calls it uses default_map in place of default.map.

The open() in line 9 apparently is what finally makes things work.
The open() of the tempfile in line 7 has to succeed, too, or else weird
things happen, and the real open() in line 9 never takes place.  Line 8
shows that tempfile cleanup now is no longer deleting the real file.

So, to summarize, here's what I did:

* moved away the original /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb directory (a link to
/etc/X11/xkb, normally), preventing X from accessing anything in there.

* uncommented all 'Option Xkb*' entries in XF86Config-4/xorg.conf.

* created a dummy replacement for xkbcomp. This is just a simple script
which copies the precompiled keymap to the tempfile location where X is
expecting to find it -- hereby simulating a successful compile run:

  #!/usr/bin/perl
  
  $base = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/;
  $dest = pop 

Re: XKB problem with x-terminal

2005-12-11 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:19:39PM +0100, Almut Behrens wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:22:30PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
  On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Almut Behrens wrote:
   On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:16:09PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
Is there a way to compile keyboard definitions for X and save them
somewhere, where XServer can read them, when it starts?
   
   $ xkbcomp -xkm :0 keymap.xkm
   Then, simply transfer the resulting keymap.xkm to your thinclient,
   where you can make the X server load it upon startup using the option
   -xkbmap keymap.xkm.
  
  If I start X with -xkbdb keymap.xkm, it doesn't complain, but the
  keyboard doesn't behave properly :(
 
 Not too surprising.  That option's value is assigned to some variable
 XkbDB (in xc/programs/Xserver/xkb/xkbInit.c) which isn't used anywhere
 else beyond this assignment, in the entire X sources.  Whatever that's
 supposed to do, it isn't implemented yet ;)
 
 The fact that -xkbmap doesn't work as advertised, isn't too surprising
 either, 'cos I was telling rubbish  (yeah, next time, Almut reminds
 herself to actually verify the stuff she's claiming...)

Well, it did make perfect sense :) I would have expected the -xkbmap to
work exactly the way you described.

 All in all, I can't help getting the impression, that Simo and me are
 to the only two people in this world who have ever tried to make use of
 this -xkbmap option :)

Maybe others just gave up when it didn't work the way one would expect.

 My main observations:
 
 * you can't keep the X server from wanting to call xkbcomp, even in the
 presence of a perfectly valid compiled xkbmap.  At least, I dunno how.
 
 * even though the output of the xkbcomp run isn't really used in this
 case (AFAICT), it is good to have it succeed, superficially.  In case
 of any failures in this step, a couple of other things are being tried
 which eventually lead to a complete failure of the whole shebang.
 
 * you are expected to specify the bare name of the keymap (without the
 .xkm extension);  the X server looks for the map in certain predefined
 directories (which do vary depending on which UID the server is started as)
 
 * unless you have a dot in the keymap name, the X server deletes the
 map before reading it.  No kidding.  This seems to be because the
 path of the temporary output file (created during the useless run of
 xkbcomp) is being set to where the real keymap is expected to be found.
 And tempfile cleanup happens before the actual -xkbmap-related code
 gets a chance to read it...  Luckily, there's some odd sanitizing
 being applied to the tempfile name (replacing '.' by '_').  That allows
 us to play tricks here:
 
 So, to summarize, here's what I did:
 
 * moved away the original /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb directory (a link to
 /etc/X11/xkb, normally), preventing X from accessing anything in there.
 
 * uncommented all 'Option Xkb*' entries in XF86Config-4/xorg.conf.
 
 * created a dummy replacement for xkbcomp. This is just a simple script
 which copies the precompiled keymap to the tempfile location where X is
 expecting to find it -- hereby simulating a successful compile run:
 
   #!/usr/bin/perl
   
   $base = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/;
   $dest = pop @ARGV;# of the 12 args that xkbcomp is called
   $src  = $base . pop @ARGV;# with, the last two are of interest...
   $dest = $base$dest if $dest !~ m|^/|;
   
   system 'cp', $src, $dest; # create expected output
   exit 0# always succeed
 
 * created a new xkb directory, containing just the following:
 
 -rwxr-xr-x root/root   313 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/xkbcomp
 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/
 -rw-r--r-- root/root  7804 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/default.map
 drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/
 lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/compiled/default.map.xkm - 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/default.map
 lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 /var/tmp/default.map.xkm - 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/keymap/default.map
 
 (xkbcomp is the above script. default.map is the compiled keymap.
 The map in /var/tmp/ is used when X is run as a regular user.)
 
 I'm not saying this is way to do it -- just that it worked for me :)
 Tried with various versions of X from woody's XFree86 to Xorg-6.8.2.
 
 Let me know whether it works for you, too, Simo.  I'm afraid I won't be
 able to help, if not, though -- just out of curiosity...

Excellent work Almut! It works like a charm :) I can't thank you enough,
figuring this out would have taken light years from me :))
 
 Almut
 
 (...and I said, I wouldn't bore you with details... Well.)

No worries there, having a software background myself, I find this
really interesting. Yes, I know there must be something wrong with me :)

Little sidenote: while searching for clues, I ran into this
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4461, which seems to
suggest that the default locations are going 

Re: XKB problem with x-terminal

2005-12-09 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 09:34:26PM +0100, Almut Behrens wrote:
 (okay, took me while to reply, but just in case you haven't figured it
 out yourself in the meantime...)

Hi,

No, I still haven't figured it out totally, even though I have been
playing around with xkbcomp and its different options :)

 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:16:09PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Is there a way to compile keyboard definitions for X and save them
  somewhere, where XServer can read them, when it starts?
  
 The easiest way to create a compiled keymap is probably to extract
 it from a running X server (on a machine which has xbase-clients
 installed, and is running the desired xkb setup):
 
 $ xkbcomp -xkm :0 keymap.xkm
 Then, simply transfer the resulting keymap.xkm to your thinclient,
 where you can make the X server load it upon startup using the option
 -xkbmap keymap.xkm.

Thanks a lot, I hadn't figured this one out. Unfortunately, if I start X
with -xkbmap keymap.xkm, it says it doesn't like it!

If I start X with -xkbdb keymap.xkm, it doesn't complain, but the
keyboard doesn't behave properly :(

 Another way would be to generate a specific keymap configuration from
 options like you have in Xorg.conf.  For example, I have in my section
 InputDevice
 ...
 Option  XkbRules  xfree86
 Option  XkbModel  pc105
 Option  XkbLayout de
 ...
 
 This would translate into the following commandline:
 
 $ setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc105 -layout de -print | xkbcomp -xkm -w 3 
 - keymap.xkm
 
 The part before the pipe generates an xkb config file, like this
 
 xkb_keymap {
 xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwertz)   };
 xkb_types { include complete  };
 xkb_compat{ include complete  };
 xkb_symbols   { include pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de};
 xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc105) };
 };

This is the one I have been able to figure out :) The includes are
actually the files in the xkb/ directory for the five different
modules for the xkb configuration.

The trouble with this was, that I got a lot of warnings, but -w 3 doesn't
show them, so I believe that the compiled file should be OK. However, if
I load the file with -xkbdb, the keyboard doesn't behave correctly.

 which essentially contains parameterized include statements for
 individual xkb files, according to what has been determined via the
 rules.  This is then fed into xkbcomp to be compiled into keymap.xkm
 (the -w 3 is just to reduce the warnings to a sensible level...).
 
 Cheers,
 Almut

Thanks a lot Almut! If you know any other tricks I could try, please let
me know...

Now that I have a proper keymap.xkm, I should figure out why it doesn't
work.

Simo
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Re: XKB problem with x-terminal

2005-12-08 Thread Almut Behrens
(okay, took me while to reply, but just in case you haven't figured it
out yourself in the meantime...)

On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:16:09PM +0200, Simo Kauppi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is there a way to compile keyboard definitions for X and save them
 somewhere, where XServer can read them, when it starts?
 
 The reason I'm asking is that I set up a thinclient, i.e. an x-terminal
 with just Xorg running on it. When X starts it gives the '(EE) Couldn't
 load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap' -error and the keyboard
 doesn't work properly.
 
 It seems that when X starts it wants to compile the keyboard stuff on
 the fly and feed it to the $DISPLAY.
 
 The problem is that the xkb/rules are in the xlibs, which pulls all of
 the xlibraries with it. To make things worse the, xkbcomp is in the
 xbase-clients.
 
 So, to be able to run x-terminal I would have to install all the
 xlibraries and all the xclients into my terminal. For me this doesn't
 seem very rational.

The easiest way to create a compiled keymap is probably to extract
it from a running X server (on a machine which has xbase-clients
installed, and is running the desired xkb setup):

$ xkbcomp -xkm :0 keymap.xkm

Then, simply transfer the resulting keymap.xkm to your thinclient,
where you can make the X server load it upon startup using the option
-xkbmap keymap.xkm.

Another way would be to generate a specific keymap configuration from
options like you have in Xorg.conf.  For example, I have in my section
InputDevice
...
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc105
Option  XkbLayout de
...

This would translate into the following commandline:

$ setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc105 -layout de -print | xkbcomp -xkm -w 3 - 
keymap.xkm

The part before the pipe generates an xkb config file, like this

xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes  { include xfree86+aliases(qwertz)   };
xkb_types { include complete  };
xkb_compat{ include complete  };
xkb_symbols   { include pc/pc(pc105)+pc/de};
xkb_geometry  { include pc(pc105) };
};

which essentially contains parameterized include statements for
individual xkb files, according to what has been determined via the
rules.  This is then fed into xkbcomp to be compiled into keymap.xkm
(the -w 3 is just to reduce the warnings to a sensible level...).

Cheers,
Almut


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XKB problem with x-terminal

2005-12-07 Thread Simo Kauppi
Hi,

Is there a way to compile keyboard definitions for X and save them
somewhere, where XServer can read them, when it starts?

The reason I'm asking is that I set up a thinclient, i.e. an x-terminal
with just Xorg running on it. When X starts it gives the '(EE) Couldn't
load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap' -error and the keyboard
doesn't work properly.

It seems that when X starts it wants to compile the keyboard stuff on
the fly and feed it to the $DISPLAY.

The problem is that the xkb/rules are in the xlibs, which pulls all of
the xlibraries with it. To make things worse the, xkbcomp is in the
xbase-clients.

So, to be able to run x-terminal I would have to install all the
xlibraries and all the xclients into my terminal. For me this doesn't
seem very rational.

Any pointers highly appreciated.
Simo
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udev und Problem mit X-Programmen als User

2005-06-27 Thread Christopher Hübner
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Joerg Rossdeutscher schrieb:
 Moin,
 
 Am Freitag, den 24.06.2005, 11:13 +0200 schrieb Christopher Hübner:
 
Wenn ich ihn als normaler user starten will, egal ob startx oder
mit kdm, dann passiert leider gar nichts.
 
 
 Möglicherweise hat das ja gar nix mit udev zu tun und ist bloss eine
 Duplizität der Ereignisse. Möglicherweise hat das Funktionieren unter
 root gar nichts mit Permissions zu tun, sondern einfach damit, dass root
 andere Einstellungen hat.

Das glaube ich nicht, aber dazu später mehr.

 Sprich:
 
 1. Geht ein evtl. neu anzulegender dritter User?

Nein.

 2. Ich nutze kein KDE, aber da gab es doch diesen ~/.kde3-Ordner, oder
 so ähnlich. Benenn den doch mal weg.

KDE funktioniert

 Ein Versuch könnte es auch wert sein, einen neuen User anzulegen und den
 bloss ein nacktes X mit Terminal starten zu lassen, und wenn das läuft,
 daraus mal ein KDE-Programm zu starten und die Meldungen anzugucken.

Genau das habe ich ausprobiert.
xterm wollte nicht starten, weil angeblich keine ptys. Als root hat das
schon funktioniert.
Die Rechte von /dev/pty* waren leider so gesetzt das nur root darauf
zugreifen konnte. Da _ich_ das sicher nicht gemacht habe kann ich mir
nur noch einen Schuldigen vorstellen -- udev
Die Rechte von /dev/null waren auch so gesetzt das postgresql den Start
verweigert hat. Auch das war sicher nicht _ich_.

Ich habe es geschafft mein KDE wieder zu starten indem ich der Gruppe
users Zugriff auf /dev/pty* gegeben habe. Danach habe ich xinit
ausgeführt und in das xterm startkde eingetippt.

Der direkte Start von KDE (ob kdm oder startx) funktioniert leider immer
noch nicht.

Allerdings habe ich den Verdacht das das alles mit falschen Rechten (von
udev vermasselt) unterhalb von /dev zu tun hat.

Daher meine Frage: Wie kann ich diese Rechte wiederherstellen?

Christopher
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Re: Dziwny problem z X-ami

2005-05-05 Thread e-gore
Dnia 04-05-2005, ro o godzinie 20:07 +0200, Jarek 111 napisa(a):
 Witam!
 
   Po wymianie monitora(!) zdechy mi czciowo X-y. Karta onboardowa
 i82965G, chodzca do tej pory bez problemw, po wymianie monitora na LCD
 zacza dziwnie si zachowywa.
   A byo to tak:
 
   1024x768x85Hz - wszystko hulao.
 
 Po wymianie monitora, zrobiem dpkg-reconfigure i dexconf ustawiem na
 1280x1024x60Hz i CRT-LCD. Po tej operacji gdm zdech.
 Co ciekawe, mog odpali X-y przez startx (ale tylko z root-a) inaczej
 nie dziaaj.
 
 W logu x-ow jest takie cos:
 
 (II) I810(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
 (II) I810(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0212000 at 0xb7e52000
 (WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring
  the saved state
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5
 (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 6
 
 Przy odpalaniu gdm-a pojawia sie na chwile tryb graficzny (siateczka
 X-owa z zegarkiem) a potem wszystko znika.
 
 Debian unstable, (wszystko swiezo updateowane), kernel custom 2.6.11.6.
 
 Probowalem z FB i bez FB, zmienialem LCD na CRT - wszystko bez skutku.
 
 Bede wdzieczny za wszelkie sugestie.

Witam.

Pewnie niewiele Ci to pomoe, ale gdy niedawno wymieniaem minitor z
baki Samsunga na LCD Philispa, wszystko byo OK. Rozidziake miaem
tak jak u Ciebie: 1024x768 przy 85Hz. Odczyem jeden monitor,
podczyem drugi - adnej rekonfiguracji i zero problemw...
Co do odpalania X-w, to w Sage'u jest tak domylnie ustawione, e tylko
root moe uruchamia okienka.

Pozdrawiam
e-gore



Dziwny problem z X-ami

2005-05-04 Thread Jarek 111
Witam!

Po wymianie monitora(!) zdechy mi czciowo X-y. Karta onboardowa
i82965G, chodzca do tej pory bez problemw, po wymianie monitora na LCD
zacza dziwnie si zachowywa.
A byo to tak:

1024x768x85Hz - wszystko hulao.

Po wymianie monitora, zrobiem dpkg-reconfigure i dexconf ustawiem na
1280x1024x60Hz i CRT-LCD. Po tej operacji gdm zdech.
Co ciekawe, mog odpali X-y przez startx (ale tylko z root-a) inaczej
nie dziaaj.

W logu x-ow jest takie cos:

(II) I810(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) I810(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0212000 at 0xb7e52000
(WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring
 the saved state
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 6

Przy odpalaniu gdm-a pojawia sie na chwile tryb graficzny (siateczka
X-owa z zegarkiem) a potem wszystko znika.

Debian unstable, (wszystko swiezo updateowane), kernel custom 2.6.11.6.

Probowalem z FB i bez FB, zmienialem LCD na CRT - wszystko bez skutku.

Bede wdzieczny za wszelkie sugestie.
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Problem starting x server

2004-12-27 Thread Adrian S. Glover



Hello!

I'm new to Debian and this GNU/linux. I've 
installed from CD but the machine returns an error saying "I cannot start x 
server, it is likely that it is not set up correctly etc etc". 

Then next screen says "warning process set to nice 
value 0 instead of -10 as requested etc". 
Next screen "would you like to run the x config 
program etc" 
then "I will now try to restart x server again" 

then "I cannot start the x server".

It either goes round in circles or I have to 
decline and get to the command prompt. 
The machine is not yet on either its network or the 
internet, the only way in is via CD (no-floppy).

Can anyone tell me how (in simple terms please!) 
how to get through this and bring up the GUI? I copied the CD from a 
mirror.
I've tried the faq's and other lists.

Also I get loads of error messages, all the same, 
thus: ide2: unexpected interrupt, status=0xd0, count= (ascending number), I 
think it's because I've got a large SATA drive is this true? How canI lose 
the messages echoing to screen?


Thanks


Adrian
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Re: Problem starting x server

2004-12-27 Thread Kent West
Adrian S. Glover wrote:
Hello!
 
I'm new to Debian and this GNU/linux. I've installed from CD but the 
machine returns an error saying I cannot start x server,  it is 
likely that it is not set up correctly etc etc.
Setting up X is one of the most common difficulties newbies have, 
especially if they're using the current Stable branch of Debian, Woody. 
Woody is ancient, and if this is what you have, you'd probably find life 
much easier if you could upgrade to Sarge (Testing) or Sid (Unstable), 
both of which are suitable for workstation use (whereas you'd probably 
do better to stick with Woody for a server, in which case, do you really 
need X?).

Then next screen says warning process set to nice value 0 instead of 
-10 as requested etc.
You can ignore this error; it's not the one causing you problems.
Next screen would you like to run the x config program etc
then I will now try to restart x server again
then I cannot start the x server.
 
It either goes round in circles or I have to decline and get to the 
command prompt.
The machine is not yet on either its network or the internet
Then upgrading to Sarge or Sid is more difficult.
, the only way in is via CD (no-floppy).
 
Can anyone tell me how (in simple terms please!) how to get through 
this and bring up the GUI? I copied the CD from a mirror.
I've tried the faq's and other lists.

Run lspci and see what video chipset you have; the output will look 
something like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk/DOCS/KCARC/NEWSLETTERS/2005 lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo 
KT266/A/333]
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8366/A/7 [Apollo 
KT266/A/333 AGP]
:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys NC100 Network Everywhere 
Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
:00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c325 [ViRGE] (rev 06)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge
:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:11.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:00:11.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:00:11.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 
1.1 Controller (rev 1b)
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 30)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 
RL/VR AGP
There are two lines referring to VGA controllers, indicating that this 
box has two video cards (yours probably (almost certainly) only  has 
one); one is an S3 86c325; the other is an ATI Rage 128.

Now that you know what video chipset you have, run dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86, and select the corresponding driver for your chipset 
when prompted. After this program is finished, try starting X manually 
with the startx command.

If it still fails, look on the screen (Shift-PgUP to scroll up) for any 
relevant error messages. Also you might look in /var/log/XFree86.0.log.

As your other question is on a different topic, it really deserves its 
own thread. I'd still attempt answering it, however, if I were so qualified.

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Re: Problem starting x server

2004-12-27 Thread John Smith
On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 17:08 +, Adrian S. Glover wrote:
 Hello!
 Adrian
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Hi Adrian,

in case of a misconfigured xserver you can do a couple of things
that all come to basically the same thing: modifying
your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 This is your central xserver config file. You
can run the configure tool
again with a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' or do it manually with
a 'lspci' as root, find your graphics card and note it down. Edit the
file with a 'nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4', find a 'Section Device' and
modify the 'Driver' statement to have the driver matching your card,
don't forget to save. Start xfree86 again with a' /etc/init.d/gdm
start'.

Sincerely ,

Jan.
  
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problem with X-4.3 + flat panels using dvi cables and nvidia graphics card

2004-05-13 Thread James D. Freels
I am having a nagging problem with my Nvidia-GeForce FX 5200 video
card.  I am hoping to get some help from this forum(s) on how to correct
the problem(s).  Please reply directly or through the forum with
advise on this problem.

First, let me give some details of my setup.  The video card is a PCI
card, not AGP.  This is because the Intel-SE7500CW2 server board I am
using as my desktop does not have an AGP slot (found this out after I
ordered it !)  Part of my problem may be related to this fact (PCI
card).  I also have a DEL-2000FP flat-panel monitor with a DVI video
cable coupling the video card to the monitor.

I am using XFree86-4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 out of Debian/Sid distribution of
Linux.   I have also tried backports from snapshot.debian.net to
4.3.0-7 with no improvement.  

I am not exactly sure when this problem started to show up. Most likely
when the card was initially installed replacing the ATI card.  I do not
think it is related to recent upgrades to X or the kernel.

I do not have any of these problems on a similarly configured
Debian/Sid at home that has a regular CRT monitor (not flat panel and
not dvi).  Therefore, I think the problem is unique to flat panel
monitors with dvi inputs/cables.

Also none of these problems (including the 2.6.x problems below)
existed on using a slower ATI-Radeon 9200 pci card.  I want the nvidia
card to gain the speed for 3D graphics applications.  I also like
nvidia cards in general and have purchased several for several
different computers.

Here is what works:

kernel version 2.4.26 + nvidia driver in any mode within X windows
kernel version 2.4.26 + Xfree86 nv driver in 1024x768 resolution or
less + vga console

Here is what is crippled:

kernel version 2.4.26 + nvidia driver at the vga console after X
starts.  The screen is full of streaks in both x and y direction with
constant noise to the screen.  Nothing appears to be able to remove
this noise.

Here is what is completely broken:

kernel version 2.6.6 + nvidia or nv driver in X windows.  It installs
fine, but produces blank screens.

Here is what I have tried in looking at FAQ and other questions
answered on the net:

As boot options (or append strings in lilo.conf):

pci=noacpi 
acpi=off 
noapic 
acpi_skip_timer_override

Essentially every available option in the nvidia driver including
(currently commented out, trying one at a time):

#   Option FlatPanelProperties Scaling = default, Dithering =
default
#   Option UseInt10Module 1
# use the following option only with DVI cards
##  Option ConnectedMonitor DFP
##  Option IgnoreDisplayDevices TV
#   Option NoBandWidthTest 1
#   Option DigitalVibrance 255
#   Option RenderAccel 0
#   Option NoRenderExtension 1
#   Option NoFlip 1
##  Option NvAGP 0
#   Option SWCursor 1
#   Option HWCursor 0
##  Option CursorShadow true
#   Option CursorShadowAlpha 64 # range 0 (transparent) to 255
(opaque)
#   Option CursorShadowYOffset 2 # range 0 to 32 pixels
#   Option MultisampleCompatibility 1

The following options in the nv driver:

##  Driver  nv
##  Option  FlatPanel 1
##  Option  FPDither 1


Here is what I presently have in the relevant sections of my
/etc/X11/XFConfig-4 file:

Section Module
Loaddbe
Loadextmod
Loadglx
Loadrecord
Loadbitmap
Loadfreetype
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
Loadint10
#nvidia Loadddc
#nvidia Loaddri
#nvidia Loadpex5
#nvidia LoadGLcore
#nvidia Loadxie
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Chaintech GeForce FX-5200
Driver  nvidia
Option NoLogo true
Option NoDDC true
Option ConnectedMonitor DFP
Option IgnoreDisplayDevices TV
Option NvAGP 0
Option CursorShadow true
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Dell 2000FP
HorizSync   31-80
VertRefresh 56-76
# vsync=60 and hxync=75 is the optimum for 1600x1200 according to Dell's
specs
##  VertRefresh 60
##  HorizSync   75
vendorname [Dell 2000FP]
modelname [Dell 2000FP]
Option  dpms
EndSection

Section Screen
  Identifierfea
  DeviceChaintech GeForce FX-5200
  Monitor   Dell 2000FP
  DefaultDepth  24
  DefaultFbBpp  32
  SubSectionDisplay
  Depth 24
  Modes 1600x1200 1400x1050 1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768
800x600
# only mode that appears to work correctly with the Xfree86 nv driver
##Modes 1024x768
  EndSubSection
EndSection

Finally, here is the /var/log/XFree86.0.log file


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please check the latest 

Re: dvd tv-out problem with X

2004-04-10 Thread Kristian Niemi
Seems there aren't too many using / interested in tv out.

Anyway, I managed to get tv-out to work (by using atitvout) with telling 
X to use the vesa driver instead of radeon. (I.e. by editing 
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, looking up the device driver (was radeon) and 
changing it to vesa.)

There's one problem with this fix though: I can't use (the video out (?) 
driver) xv anymore, but have to use x11 to playback movies etc..
/It works/ like this, but it would be nice to be able to use xv ...

Not sure why it stopped working in the first place though: whatever made 
it not-work, must be something else than what I changed; I tried / 
looked at a backup of XF86Config-4, and I /had/ been using the `radeon' 
driver before (and it worked).

Kristian Niemi wrote:
Question I:

I've got this strange problem; tvout in X doesn't work any more -- works 
fine from shell though (i.e. `bashing' on tv works ;) ).

I have a ATI Radeon 7500 Mobile card on a Dell Inspiron laptop, running 
Debian unstable (up to date). I'm using the package atitvout to `attach' 
tv (command atitvout -f t)

The thing is, and the strange part, that everything worked fine a couple 
of days ago, Tuesday to be exact. So my guess is that some package, that 
has gotten updated since Tuesday, is causing this. Perhaps there's some 
really easy setting(s) that I have forgotten about?

Does anyone feel like taking a guess as to what package might be causing 
this / what settings I could try? I have a feeling it has something to 
do with X, not atitvout, but I could (very well) be wrong. Can you think 
of a package that might have something to do with this?

The only thing I've really added to Debian since then, is XFCE-4, 
including all recommended packages. (Don't see how that might have an 
effect?) *Everything looks fine, works fine*, except when looking at it 
through the tv. The commands I use to attach the tv is as they were when 
it worked, as is XF86Config-4 (I tried with a backup conf).


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Re: dvd tv-out problem with X

2004-04-07 Thread Kristian Niemi
Alright... I've been trying to find some more info.
There are some posts on the net suggesting the problem might have 
something to do with kernel 2.6.*; I'm using 2.6.3. See 
http://www.via.ecp.fr/via/ml/libdvd...1/msg6.html

There's also other posts suggesting the same thing, but I haven't found 
any /solutions/.

When trying to play DVD with xine -- or mplayer, or ogle -- sooner or 
later, before the movie *should end* I get a libdvdread: Can't seek to 
block xxx Where x... usually, if not always, is above a number 
higher than 200.

I'm using libdvdread3 0.9.4-4.

Kristian Niemi wrote:
Question II:

This is a more trivial problem. I'm trying to play DVD's with my Samsung 
CD-RW/DVD -combo drive. Older DVD:s that I have work fine. Newer, 
however,  all seem to `miss an ending' -- they just end abruptly, no 
credits, no nothing. Mplayer / xine just kind of state that `end of 
file', no more data.

At first I thought it was faulty DVD:s, but now after I've tried *six 
different ones*, all showing the same `symptoms', I'm starting to doubt 
that something else might be going on ... Anyone else experiencing 
something similar?

Have they started making DVD:s in some new way, creating DVD:s 
incompatible with my drive? (Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-308B) Have I 
missed some mysterious settings? (Again, /has/ worked fine until now, 
never noticed any problems --- and still works fine with my /older/ DVD:s.)

Any ideas whatsoever?

Thanks,
Kristian


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Re: dvd tv-out problem with X

2004-04-07 Thread Kristian Niemi
Right ... Just installed kernel-image-2.6.4-1-686, and for some 
mysterious reason, the DVD:s just got several minutes longer.

The previous kernel I used, 2.6.3, I had compiled myself. Obviously I 
did something wrong. :) Does anyone have any pointers as to where it 
went wrong? How was it possible that I could watch the better part of 
the DVD:s, and that they just `ended' before they should, /because of a 
kernel-setting/?

h: Kristian

Question II:

This is a more trivial problem. I'm trying to play DVD's with my Samsung 
CD-RW/DVD -combo drive. Older DVD:s that I have work fine. Newer, 
however,  all seem to `miss an ending' -- they just end abruptly, no 
credits, no nothing. Mplayer / xine just kind of state that `end of 
file', no more data.

At first I thought it was faulty DVD:s, but now after I've tried *six 
different ones*, all showing the same `symptoms', I'm starting to doubt 
that something else might be going on ... Anyone else experiencing 
something similar?

Have they started making DVD:s in some new way, creating DVD:s 
incompatible with my drive? (Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-308B) Have I 
missed some mysterious settings? (Again, /has/ worked fine until now, 
never noticed any problems --- and still works fine with my /older/ DVD:s.)

Any ideas whatsoever?

Thanks,
Kristian


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Problem: 2.6.x and network (e1000 Intel 82546EB)

2004-04-07 Thread W. Borgert
Hi,

after installing a fresh sarge on a Sun (dual XEON) with two
e1000 Intel 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller everything
worked fine so far with the default 2.4.x kernel.  But after
changing to 2.6.x the network just does not work anymore.  I
use e1000 as the driver and the official kernel images
(kernel-image-2.6.[34]-1-686-smp.  Of course, I looked in
/var/log/* for interesting messages, but got nothing out of
it.  rmmod e1000; modprobe e1000; /etc/init.d/networking
restart gave Ignoring unknown interface eth0=hotplug and
Ignoring unknown interface eth1=hotplug.  Hotplug?

Any ideas?  Thanks in advance!
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dvd tv-out problem with X

2004-04-03 Thread Kristian Niemi
Hi,

Question I:

I've got this strange problem; tvout in X doesn't work any more -- works 
fine from shell though (i.e. `bashing' on tv works ;) ).

I have a ATI Radeon 7500 Mobile card on a Dell Inspiron laptop, running 
Debian unstable (up to date). I'm using the package atitvout to `attach' 
tv (command atitvout -f t)

The thing is, and the strange part, that everything worked fine a couple 
of days ago, Tuesday to be exact. So my guess is that some package, that 
has gotten updated since Tuesday, is causing this. Perhaps there's some 
really easy setting(s) that I have forgotten about?

Does anyone feel like taking a guess as to what package might be causing 
this / what settings I could try? I have a feeling it has something to 
do with X, not atitvout, but I could (very well) be wrong. Can you think 
of a package that might have something to do with this?

The only thing I've really added to Debian since then, is XFCE-4, 
including all recommended packages. (Don't see how that might have an 
effect?) *Everything looks fine, works fine*, except when looking at it 
through the tv. The commands I use to attach the tv is as they were when 
it worked, as is XF86Config-4 (I tried with a backup conf).

Question II:

This is a more trivial problem. I'm trying to play DVD's with my Samsung 
CD-RW/DVD -combo drive. Older DVD:s that I have work fine. Newer, 
however,  all seem to `miss an ending' -- they just end abruptly, no 
credits, no nothing. Mplayer / xine just kind of state that `end of 
file', no more data.

At first I thought it was faulty DVD:s, but now after I've tried *six 
different ones*, all showing the same `symptoms', I'm starting to doubt 
that something else might be going on ... Anyone else experiencing 
something similar?

Have they started making DVD:s in some new way, creating DVD:s 
incompatible with my drive? (Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-308B) Have I 
missed some mysterious settings? (Again, /has/ worked fine until now, 
never noticed any problems --- and still works fine with my /older/ DVD:s.)

Any ideas whatsoever?

Thanks,
Kristian
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problem starting x

2004-02-23 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
hello all

firstly, i am not a member of the group. so, may i request you to send 
your replies to my e-mail address also?

i have a hp pc running win xp. it has an hp72 monitor.

from control panel - device managers following information is available.

monitor - hp d 8904

display adapter - rage 128 pro gl

i have made the system a double boot one by installing debian 3.0. the 
installation went on without any problem. however, now x refuses to start.

i have attached the error file as well as the config file. could someone 
help me in setting it right?

thanks in advance,

sandip
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type man XF86Config-4 at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION line above, and/or after the
# ### END DEBCONF SECTION line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file? in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.

Section Files
FontPathunix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadpex5
Loadrecord
Loadspeedo
Loadtype1
Loadvbe
Loadxie
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  keyboard
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xfree86
Option  XkbModel  pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/psaux
Option  Protocol  PS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  SendCoreEventstrue
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  Generic Video Card
Driver  i810
VideoRam8192
Option  UseFBDev  true
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Generic Monitor
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-85
Option  DPMS
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  Generic Video Card
Monitor Generic Monitor
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes   800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Default Layout
Screen  Default Screen
InputDevice Generic Keyboard
InputDevice Configured Mouse
InputDevice Generic Mouse
EndSection

Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection

### END DEBCONF SECTION

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Re: problem starting x

2004-02-23 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Sandip P Deshmukh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 firstly, i am not a member of the group. so, may i request you to send
 your replies to my e-mail address also?
 
 [XFree does not start with ATI rage 128 pr GL]

(II) I810: Driver for Intel i810 chipset: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815 
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(EE) No devices detected.

You try to use the wrong driver. I think you need to change it to ATI,
you can check on xfree86.org under Support and Documentation. Run
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and change the driver. Also try to set
Use Kernel Framebuffer to no if still won't work with the correct
driver.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: problem starting x

2004-02-23 Thread Kent West
Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:

What you told us you have . . .

display adapter - rage 128 pro gl

What you've told X you have . . .

Section Device
	Identifier	Generic Video Card
	Driver		i810
	VideoRam	8192
	Option		UseFBDev		true
EndSection
 

What does lspci say you have?

You might try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and tell X to 
use ati or r128 (I'm not sure which you'll want).

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Re: Problem with X/icewm

2004-02-20 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include hallo.h
* Bob Parnes [Thu, Feb 19 2004, 09:03:37PM]:

 applications. XFree86.0.log has no error messages. I stopped the display
 manager (wdm) and started X from the console: same result, except that 
 the console showed a long progression of lines,
 
 IceWm: Warning: glyph not found: XX
 
 where XX was a number. Apparently something was wiped out, but I don't
 know what it is. I upgraded icewm, but that did not help, so I assume 

Maybe something installed new or incompatible/broken fonts. Please try
removing the last lines from /etc/X11/icewm/preferences and report
whether it helps to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Thanks,
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Problem with X/icewm

2004-02-19 Thread Bob Parnes
Hello,

I am running a combination of stable/testing, with icewm the window
manager. On starting the system today, I found that all the text was
missing from the popup menu, from the task bar, and from the title bar of
applications. XFree86.0.log has no error messages. I stopped the display
manager (wdm) and started X from the console: same result, except that 
the console showed a long progression of lines,

IceWm: Warning: glyph not found: XX

where XX was a number. Apparently something was wiped out, but I don't
know what it is. I upgraded icewm, but that did not help, so I assume 
that something is missing from X. Fortunately, I backed up the system
early in the month, and I have extra disk space, so I was able to restore
the backup on a separate partition. The working system now is the same, 
except for applications downloaded since the backup. The ones
installed yesterday, all from testing, are:

upgrade of cupsys, cupsys-client, cupsys-bsd
visual-tcl, itcl3
openoffice.org

As it stands, I have the option of trying to fix what went wrong or 
installing these applications on the restored system. If someone can suggest
what may have happened and whether I can fix the old system, I would be
grateful. Thanks.

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Re: problem with X

2004-02-08 Thread Bytor the Destroyer
hey just want to say that X is working now.  Wanted to thank eveyone who helped me.  
Thanks again.
Clyde


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Re: problem with X

2004-02-07 Thread Bytor the Destroyer
I have done some reading and I have commented out the lines in my XF86Config file load 
GLcore and load dri.  It solved the problem with the errors I got in my XFree86 log.  
I am still having a problem with getting X up and running.  I can get the Nvidia spash 
screen and then I get a black and white screen with a lot of dots on it and a black x 
for the mouse pointer. Then after a quick second it goes back to text mode.  Here is 
my XFree86 log.  I can not see what the problem is.  Hopefully someone can give me a 
clue.  Thanks Clyde

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-12.1 20031003005825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X\ 
Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-rc1-ac1-cryptoloop i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Feb  7 20:17:38 2004
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Generic Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Generic Video Card
(**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout se
(**) XKB: layout: se
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
(WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/l\ib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000480c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1106, rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card , rev 40 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1462,3300 rev 50 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1274,5000 card 4942,4c4c rev 00 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10ec,8029 card , rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0111 card 1462,8829 rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0

Re: problem with X

2004-02-07 Thread Roy Pluschke
On February 7, 2004 11:45 am, Bytor the Destroyer wrote:
 I have done some reading and I have commented out the lines in my
 XF86Config file load GLcore and load dri.  It solved the problem with the
 errors I got in my XFree86 log.  I am still having a problem with getting X
 up and running.  I can get the Nvidia spash screen and then I get a black
 and white screen with a lot of dots on it and a black x for the mouse
 pointer. Then after a quick second it goes back to text mode.  Here is my
 XFree86 log.  I can not see what the problem is.  Hopefully someone can
 give me a clue.  Thanks Clyde


The white screen with a lot of dots means that you do indeed have X up and 
running.  X is looking for a window manager or program to run and when it 
doesn't find one exits.

Make sure you have KDE or Gnome or whatever window manager installed and then 
edit/create the .xsession file in your home directory. Mine looks as follows:

exec wmaker
# exec gnome-session
# exec kde3

I uncomment what I feel like using that day. Some people prefer to use a 
display mamnager like kdm/gdm/xdm that logs you in and lets you select from a 
variety of installed window/session managers.

hope this helps,
R.J.P.




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Re: problem with X

2004-02-07 Thread Bytor the Destroyer
I have done some reading and I have commented out the lines in my XF86Config file load 
GLcore and load dri.  It solved the problem with the errors I got in my XFree86 log.  
I am still having a problem with getting X up and running.  I can get the Nvidia spash 
screen and then I get a black and white screen with a lot of dots on it and a black x 
for the mouse pointer. Then after a quick second it goes back to text mode.  Here is 
my XFree86 log.  I can not see what the problem is.  Hopefully someone can give me a 
clue.  Thanks Clyde

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-12.1 20031003005825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X\ 
Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-rc1-ac1-cryptoloop i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sat Feb  7 20:17:38 2004
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
(==) ServerLayout Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Generic Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Generic Video Card
(**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) XKB: model: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout se
(**) XKB: layout: se
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
(WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/l\ib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000480c, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 1106, rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card , rev 40 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:5: chip 1106,3058 card 1462,3300 rev 50 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1274,5000 card 4942,4c4c rev 00 class 04,01,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 10ec,8029 card , rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0111 card 1462,8829 rev b2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0

problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Bytor the Destroyer
i am running kernel 2.6.0 and sarge.  I have a nvidia GForce 2MX.  I have just 
installed the latest driver from nvidias web site.  When I type startx I get the 
nvidia spash screen up and then after a couple of seconds I go directly back to text 
mode with the following showing

XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-12.1 20031003005825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X
Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 October 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-rc1-ac1-cryptoloop i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb  5 17:22:23 2004
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

(EE) Failed to load module GLcore (module does not exist, 0)
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o:  No symbols found
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is 
unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is 
unresolved!
(II) Initializing extension GLX

I am wondering if anyone can help me out.  Thanks 
Clyde


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Re: problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Justin Guerin
On Thursday 05 February 2004 09:23, Bytor the Destroyer wrote:
 i am running kernel 2.6.0 and sarge.  I have a nvidia GForce 2MX.  I have
 just installed the latest driver from nvidias web site.  When I type
 startx I get the nvidia spash screen up and then after a couple of
 seconds I go directly back to text mode with the following showing

 XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-12.1 20031003005825
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
 Release Date: 18 October 2002
 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
 newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
 reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.21-rc1-ac1-cryptoloop i686 [ELF]
 Module Loader present
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb  5 17:22:23 2004
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4

 (EE) Failed to load module GLcore (module does not exist, 0)
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o:  No
 symbols found Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! Symbol
 __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
 is unresolved! (II) Initializing extension GLX

 I am wondering if anyone can help me out.  Thanks
 Clyde

The (EE) line indicates X can't find the GLcore module.  Mine is in /usr/
X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a  Do you have that file?  What are 
its permissions? (mine are 0644).

I don't use nvidia, so I'm not sure if it provides its own GLcore.  If it 
does, it seems like X doesn't know where to find it.  You might be able to 
just place it in the aforementioned directory, but I can't advise as to 
whether that's the preferred method.

HTH.

Justin


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Re: problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Bytor the Destroyer
 
 The (EE) line indicates X can't find the GLcore module.  Mine is in /usr/
 X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a  Do you have that file?  What are 
 its permissions? (mine are 0644).
 
 HTH.
 
 Justin

I can not seem to find the GLcore module.  I look in 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ but all I have is libdbe.a libextmod.a 
libglx.so.1.0.5336 libxtrap.a
libdri.a libglx.so librecord.a
How can I go about getting the GLcore module?
Clyde


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Re: problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Justin Guerin
On Thursday 05 February 2004 10:41, Bytor the Destroyer wrote:
  The (EE) line indicates X can't find the GLcore module.  Mine is in
  /usr/ X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a  Do you have that file? 
  What are its permissions? (mine are 0644).
 
  HTH.
 
  Justin

 I can not seem to find the GLcore module.  I look in
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ but all I have is libdbe.a libextmod.a
 libglx.so.1.0.5336 libxtrap.a libdri.a libglx.so librecord.a
 How can I go about getting the GLcore module?
 Clyde

apt-file (or the Debian website search feature) is your friend here.  
apt-file shows GLcore comes from the package xserver-xfree86.  Do you have 
that installed?  If so, you might try a re-install.

Justin


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Re: problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Bytor the Destroyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 
 The (EE) line indicates X can't find the GLcore module.  Mine is in
 /usr/
 X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a  Do you have that file? 
 What are its permissions? (mine are 0644).
 
 I can not seem to find the GLcore module.  I look in
 /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ but all I have is libdbe.a
 libextmod.a libglx.so.1.0.5336 libxtrap.a libdri.a libglx.so
 librecord.a How can I go about getting the GLcore module? Clyde

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate libGLcore
/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
/usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1.0.4363

with nvidia-driver 4363

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Re: problem with X

2004-02-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 11:15:22AM -0700, Justin Guerin said
 On Thursday 05 February 2004 10:41, Bytor the Destroyer wrote:
   The (EE) line indicates X can't find the GLcore module.  Mine is in
   /usr/ X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a  Do you have that file? 
   What are its permissions? (mine are 0644).
  
   HTH.
  
   Justin
 
  I can not seem to find the GLcore module.  I look in
  /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ but all I have is libdbe.a libextmod.a
  libglx.so.1.0.5336 libxtrap.a libdri.a libglx.so librecord.a
  How can I go about getting the GLcore module?
  Clyde
 
 apt-file (or the Debian website search feature) is your friend here.  
 apt-file shows GLcore comes from the package xserver-xfree86.  Do you have 
 that installed?  If so, you might try a re-install.

If (s)he's using the binary-only nvidia kernel module, (s)he also needs
to use the binary-only nvidia X module.

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Problem with X cursor theme in KDE

2004-01-23 Thread Eric
Hello,  I'm running Debian sid and recently did a dist-upgrade to KDE
3.1.5.  It went well except my X cursor theme does not load anymore.

I googled the problem and came across this 

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=226545

Which about halfway down refrences this discussion

http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/debian-x-200401/msg00267.html

I have attempted the corrections stated in those threads.  Creating the
sym link and installing the dev package.  I still can not get my mouse
theme to load/show  except when waiting for a page to load in Mozilla
the busy cursor is my mouse theme busy cursor.  After the page is loaded
it reverts back to the core cursor.  My cursor theme is installed in
~/.icons/default

Any hints, tips, or an outright fix welcomed :)

thanks in advance
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Problem mit X und Grafikkarte

2004-01-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi,

Ich hoffe ich bin hier Richtig!
I read I could write in german. If this is not correct, please send me
a message (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).


Ich habe auf meinen Rechner letztens Debian woody (r1) installiert.
Nach der Konfiguartion von X mit hilfe von XF86config, wollte x
starten, bekam jedoch folgende Fehlermeldung:
(EE) No device detected
Fatal server error
no screen
Ich habe versucht die BusID zu setzen wie mei der standart VGA, jedoch
ohne Erfolg!
(Die Fehlermeldung wurde Ergänzt durch:
(ww) nv: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI 1:0:0:)
found)

mit cat /proc/pci wird die Karte jedoch angezeigt!

Ich habe als Grafikkarte eine Geforce4 und das original XFree von
woody (ver: 4.1.0.1)
Kann mir einer weiterhelfen? - Danke!

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Re: Problem mit X und Grafikkarte

2004-01-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hallo

Peter Kovacs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 [XFree startet nicht]
 (Die Fehlermeldung wurde Ergänzt durch:
 (ww) nv: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI 1:0:0:)
 found)
 
 mit cat /proc/pci wird die Karte jedoch angezeigt!
 
 Ich habe als Grafikkarte eine Geforce4 und das original XFree von
 woody (ver: 4.1.0.1)

Deine Karte wird von XFree 4.1 mit dem nv-Treiber nicht unterstützt. Das
sagt die Fehlermeldung übrigens auch, denn im Output von startx bzw. im
Log kannst Du nachlesen, welche Karten der Treiber kennt.

Du kannst entweder den Vesa-Treiber verwenden, ein neueres XFree
einspielen (www.apt-get.org) oder den Treiber von nvidia.com
herunterladen und installieren. Wobei letzteres Dir auch
3D-Beschleunigung gibt.

Die Frage wird hier regelmäßig gestellt, vielleicht schaust Du nächstes
Mal erst ins Archiv, auf http://lists.debian.org oder
http://groups.google.com, Gruppe linux.debian.user.german.

Grüße
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LINUX/AUROX 9.1. //Problem mit x-java-vm bei Mozilla

2003-12-22 Thread Mik
Hi,

ich habe mir mal eure E-Mail Adressen zusammen gesucht, da ihr anderen schon 
mal in dieser Angelegenheit geholfen habt, Dachte ich mir ich schreibe euch 
mal an. Ich bin jetzt ca einen Monat beim Linux dabei, doch das ich das immer 
noch nicht geschaft habe ich weiß nicht mehr was ich machen soll... außer 
weiter zu Probieren.

Eigendlich habe ich folgende 2 Prob`s:

1. Ich möchte Wissen, wie ich richtig vorgehen muß, um die Sache ins Lot zu 
bekomen! Ich will doch einfach nur das PlugIn (x-java-vm application) in den 
Mozilla implementieren

2. Das nächste ist eigendlich das selbe in grün nur mit einem Prog. Aber da 
schau ich erstmal selber befor ich anderen ihre Zeit klaue...
Wenn mir einer von euch hilft, wäre ich sehr Dankbar!

Gruß Mx...


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LINUX/AUROX 9.1. //Problem mit x-java-vm bei Mozilla

2003-12-22 Thread Mik
Hi,

ich habe mir mal eure E-Mail Adressen zusammen gesucht, nachdem wegen einer 
meiner Probleme mich umgeschaut habe. Da ihr anderen schon
mal in dieser Angelegenheit geholfen habt, Dachte ich mir ich schreibe euch
mal an. Kostet ja nichtsIch bin jetzt ca einen Monat beim Linux dabei, 
doch das ich das immer noch nicht geschaft habe ich weiß nicht mehr was 
ich machen soll... außer weiter zu Probieren.

Eigendlich habe ich folgende 2 Prob`s:

1. Ich möchte Wissen, wie ich richtig vorgehen muß, um die Sache ins Lot zu
bekomen! Ich will doch einfach nur das PlugIn (x-java-vm application) in den
Mozilla implementieren

2. Das nächste ist eigendlich das selbe in grün nur mit einem Prog. Aber da
schau ich erstmal selber befor ich anderen ihre Zeit klaue...
Wenn mir einer von euch hilft, wäre ich sehr Dankbar!

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another problem starting X with sarge-install

2003-11-19 Thread Tom Allison
I did an install using the sarge install cd last night.

Initially I was working on a very small installation because of my plans 
on setting up LVM.

I installed the minimum software necessary.
installed lvm10 using 'apt-get install lvm10'
set up lvm disks.
This went fine.
Then I ran TaskSel and selected only the X-Window-Server.

An interesting note to make here is that the installation and 
configuration was extremely fast and simple.  However, there was one 
oddity in the X-Window-Server set-up that I didn't expect.

Initially there was an autodetect made of my hardware, including my 
video card, all of which went fine.  It completely recognized my video 
card and the memory available on my Matrox G400.  At what I expect was 
the completion of the process, it started over again at the beginning 
asking me about my Geniric Video Card and how much memory it had.

I assume this is an installation bug of the sarge-install process.

Installed and configured all of those packages and tested X.
X worked for both root and regular users.
I was able to login using xdm and get to a twm (default) desktop as root 
and non-root users.

I then ran dselect, which selected a number of files by default.
I selected no other packages for installation except the package for 
msft fonts and continued with the install.

After this completed, I rebooted (new kernel) and was able to start up 
xdm (did not start automatically).

I could login using XDM to the WindowMaker desktop as root.
As a non-root user, my login failed and I was sent back to the XDM login 
screen.

Something was introduced of the MANY packages that has severely broken 
the X-Windows installation in a way that are a little difficult to debug 
because there are so many and I'm unable to find any specific errors 
that really have meaning.

In every case there was an error about not being able to find mga_hal 
driver, but since it worked initially with this error I don't think it 
really matters and the 'EE' statement in XFree86.0.log is superficial.

The only other 'EE' statement found was about a generic mouse 
configuration.  Again, removing that configuration option in 
XF86Config-4 did nothing to fix the problem.

At this point I will retry installation of Debian using only -stable 
packages to see if this can be set up correctly with those packages.  I 
used this exact hardware for 4 years with Debian on it and only recently 
removed the installation.  But now I'm unable to get back.  ugh!

I'm not sure where to go next.  But I've been running without a 
workstation for almost two weeks and kind of need something.

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Re: another problem starting X with sarge-install

2003-11-19 Thread Kent West
Tom Allison wrote:
I did an install using the sarge install cd last night. I installed
the minimum software necessary. This went fine.
Then I ran TaskSel and selected only the X-Window-Server.

Initially there was an autodetect made of my hardware, including my 
video card, all of which went fine.  It completely recognized my
video card and the memory available on my Matrox G400.  At what I
expect was the completion of the process, it started over again at
the beginning asking me about my Geniric Video Card and how much
memory it had.
Do you perhaps have two video cards in the system? Or is the G400
dual-headed?
I assume this is an installation bug of the sarge-install process.

Installed and configured all of those packages and tested X. X worked
for both root and regular users.
I was able to login using xdm and get to a twm (default) desktop as
root and non-root users.
I then ran dselect, which selected a number of files by default. I
selected no other packages for installation except the package for 
msft fonts and continued with the install.

After this completed, I rebooted (new kernel) and was able to start
up xdm (did not start automatically).
Odd that it did not start automatically.


I could login using XDM to the WindowMaker desktop as root. As a
non-root user, my login failed and I was sent back to the XDM login 
screen.
Instead of using XDM, can you start X as a normal user with just the
startx command?
My first suspicion would be /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config having the line
allowed_users=root instead of allowed_users=console. If so, you can
change it manually or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and properly
answer the question about who can run X.

At this point I will retry installation of Debian using only -stable 
packages to see if this can be set up correctly with those packages.
Yikes! No need to reinstall. This is just an X issue, not an OS issue.

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Re: another problem starting X with sarge-install

2003-11-19 Thread tallison
 Tom Allison wrote:
 Do you perhaps have two video cards in the system? Or is the G400
 dual-headed?


No...  Just one G400, single head.


 After this completed, I rebooted (new kernel) and was able to start up
 xdm (did not start automatically).

 Odd that it did not start automatically.


Yes... it is.

 I could login using XDM to the WindowMaker desktop as root. As a
 non-root user, my login failed and I was sent back to the XDM login
 screen.

 Instead of using XDM, can you start X as a normal user with just the
 startx command?


No I cannot run startx as normal user.

 My first suspicion would be /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config having the line
 allowed_users=root instead of allowed_users=console. If so, you can
 change it manually or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common and properly
 answer the question about who can run X.


I was never asked, under Medium dialog, who could run this.
I will check it when I get in front of my computer.
If this does solve the matter, then I will consider filing a bugreport
against the installation.

Thanks for the suggestion.


 At this point I will retry installation of Debian using only -stable
 packages to see if this can be set up correctly with those packages.

 Yikes! No need to reinstall. This is just an X issue, not an OS issue.


Normally true.  But when I run into goofy stuff that I can't seem to
identify after the experience overall and time on this one...  It's faster
to reinstall sometimes.  This is a very new setup.




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Installations-Problem von x-server

2003-10-16 Thread Hermann Petraca
Hallo - vielleicht kann mir jemand bitte bei meinem Problem weiterhelfen?:

Problembeschreibung:

nach erfolgreicher Grund-Installation von Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r1 Woody
auf einem Intel Pentium PC konnte ich zunächst das System erfolgreich 
starten - auch habe ich eine entsprechende rescue-boot-disk erstellt.
Als ich nun diverse anderen Programme mithilfe des Programmes tasksel 
nachinstallieren wollte habe ich mich zunächst auf das X-Windows-System 
konzentriert, und konnte schon während der Eingaben -für welche ich mich 
dann während dieser Installation in dem jeweiligen Auswahlmenue zu 
entscheiden hatte- feststellen, dass hierbei ein Abbruch -dieser 
Teil-installation (etwa bei Wahl eines falschen Wertes für den BS TAST 
etc)- gar nicht mehr möglich war.   #8-|

Nach Abschluß dieser Installation des x-Systems -mit offensichtlich 
unbrauchbaren Einstellungen- war ich nun nicht mehr in der Lage, den PC in 
einen gültigen Zustand zu booten. (auch nicht mit der rescue-disk)  #8-(
genauer:
mithilfe der rescue-disk booted der Rechner zunächst mit Hilfe eines 
Standard-LinuxKernels Linux.bin danach schwenkt die ganze Sache auf die 
dann hierbei zu mountende hda1 um und lädt den Rest dieser konfiguration, 
auf welche ich bereits während dieses boot-Vorganges bereits keine Einfluß 
mehr vornehmen kann.
Frage: wie muß ich diese Boot-diskette verändern- um wieder in diesen 
gültigen command-line-mode zu kommen um hier weider erneut die richtgen 
Installationen fahren zu können? - Oder gibt es hier vielleicht noch eine 
andere Möglichkeit das eine oder anderer nachinstallieren zu können.
(eine Neuinstallation gestaltet sich hierbei etwas schwierig, als dass ich 
hier zunächst bei diesem REchner die FP erstmals mit Windo.. (lieber nicht) 
vor-formatieren müßte! )

Leider war hier auch nicht mit einer entsprechenden Tast-Kombination mehr 
weiterzukommen, als dass nicht nur der BS ungültig konfiguiert wurde, 
sondern auch die Tastatur (nach starten der entsprechenden 
windows-x-elemente) hier ebenfalls mir einfach ihren Dienst versagt hat.



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Problem z X-ami

2003-10-08 Thread Grzegorz Kolorz

Po dzisiejszym upgrejdzie  (sarge) nie wstja mi X-y.
Log w zalaczniku.
Konfiguracja fontow w XF86Config-4 jest na 100% dobra.
Czy ktos mi moze pomoc, czy ma kots podobne objawy po dzisiejszym 
upgrade.
Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed';
the X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s)
may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not
configured correctly.

People inexperienced with the X Window System should have either the
x-window-system or x-window-system-core packages installed.
# apt-get install x-window-system-core
# apt-get install x-window-system

Other useful commands to run include:
$ dpkg --status xserver-common
$ dpkg --status xfonts-base
$ zmore /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.
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Re: Problem z X-ami

2003-10-08 Thread Marcin Rosowski

Użytkownik Grzegorz Kolorz napisał:

Po dzisiejszym upgrejdzie  (sarge) nie wstja mi X-y.


mi nadal wstają ;)


Log w zalaczniku.


słaby ten log ;)


Konfiguracja fontow w XF86Config-4 jest na 100% dobra.


być może


When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages.
This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.


ten zapewne wiecej powie, zagladałeś tam ???


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Re: Problem z X-ami

2003-10-08 Thread Grzegorz Kolorz

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:49:28PM +0200, Marcin Rosowski wrote:

This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.


ten zapewne wiecej powie, zagladałeś tam ???


To co bylo w zalaczniku to wlasnie z tego pliku.
Nie ma tam zadnych innych informacji o bledach.

grzegorz



Re: Problem z X-ami

2003-10-08 Thread Grzegorz Kolorz

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:59:34PM +0200, Grzegorz Kolorz wrote:
Juz wszystko wrocilo do normy.
Pomoglo przeinstalowanie na nowo pakietu xfonts-base.

grzegorz



Re: Problem z X-ami

2003-10-08 Thread Marcin Rosowski

Użytkownik Grzegorz Kolorz napisał:

On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:49:28PM +0200, Marcin Rosowski wrote:


This can be found in the log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.



ten zapewne wiecej powie, zagladałeś tam ???


To co bylo w zalaczniku to wlasnie z tego pliku.
Nie ma tam zadnych innych informacji o bledach.


..jeżeli tak naprawde wyglada ten log to jedyny pomysł jaki mam to brak 
wolnego miejsca na dysku lub zabity XFS ?



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Re: Problem with X

2003-08-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello

Hooman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  --- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 However, If you didn't do it, please first try to
 turn off the Kernel
 framebuffer option as Stephane already proposed.
 Many nvidia cards
 won't work if it is activated.
 
 How exactly should I turn framebuffer off? I didn't
 find any item about framebuffer in XF86config-4 file.

Look out for this option in the Device Section:

Option  UseFBDev  true

Comment it out or set it to false. Or, as already proposed, use
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and select no when debconf asks for
the option.

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Re: Problem with X

2003-08-19 Thread Hooman
 --- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Hello
 
 Hooman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
   --- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  However, If you didn't do it, please first try to
  turn off the Kernel
  framebuffer option as Stephane already proposed.
  Many nvidia cards
  won't work if it is activated.
  
  How exactly should I turn framebuffer off? I
 didn't
  find any item about framebuffer in XF86config-4
 file.
 
 Look out for this option in the Device Section:
 
 Option  UseFBDev  true
 
 Comment it out or set it to false. Or, as already
 proposed, use
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and select no
 when debconf asks for
 the option.
 
 best regards
 Andreas Janssen
Hi,
Thanks a lot. Finally, I could boot with Gnome or any
other Windows manager. Now I have another problem(s).
First, when I want to login as root from login screen,
the system doesn't let me in and issues an error
message. Why is that? I tried other Windows manager
sessions like X-window, KDE, .. but still I can't
login as root.
Second, how can I change monitor resoloution from
Gnome menus?
These are the questions for now. Special thanks to
Andreas and Glenn

Regards,





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