Re: Problem with email

2002-01-19 Thread Brian Schramm
This is a repeat reply because I do not know if I got
this message out or not.  I was haveing trouble
getting yahoo mail to let me recieve from debian.  

See below for my reply:

--- ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 January 2002 10:33 am, Brian Schramm
 wrote:
  First my stats.
  Debian woody i386 from cd's bought from Cheapbytes
  After installing I then updated the system with
  dselect to the most current woody off the servers.
  I have a fixed domain name from yi.org.
  Plus I have a local network
 
  I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
  pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I
 can
  ping the server as well as telnet to it on the
 ports
  nessasary (143  110).  When I try to get my mail
 from
  any mail program I do not connect.  I get the
 error as
  if I typed in the wrong mail server name.  I have
  tryed this with several installs of debian and
 redhat
  and am having the same error.
 
  What have I done wrong?
 
 
 that's not really enough information to go on to be
 able to help you. try 
 describing the topology of your local network and
 how it's hooked to the web.

I have a 10baset ethernet for my local network and it
is tyed into the net with a 56K dial up modem on a
normal phone line.  The one machine is the gateway for
the email (pop3 and imap), web and anything else that
is not local.

 
 you say you're running both pop3 and imap
 servers--is this on the one box?
 
 what do you mean by 'when i try to get my mail'--you
 need to describe the 
 environment you're working with/in.

I have tryed several email clients to get the mail
from this box using pop3 or imap protocals.  Every
time I do I get an error saying that it cannot find my
box or login failed.  Right now I only have the server
on this network because I am rebuilding the network
from a hardware crash.

 
 the fact that you're consistently getting the same
 error means that you're 
 consistently making the same mistake. perhaps a
 better description of your 
 setup process might reveal what that is.

I install the distrobution and setup my users.  I then
go into my modem setup and install the program that
sets me up with my domain name on the internet.  What
that does is very similar to the way gnudip does it. 
My local network is set up like any other network that
I have ever set up.  I save the default gateway to be
assined by the ppp system.  That way it works for both
networks.  I also let my ppp connection assign the dns
servers.  I use the host file for any local computers.
 The mail server software (pop3 and imap) is installed
as it is from the default install on debian package. 
The clients (kmail and netscape for two of them) are
installed to use the opo3 or imap depending on what
the software is compatable with.  This is following
the instructions for the client.

I hope this will help you help me.  

Thanks for the help.

Brian

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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-19 Thread Cam Ellison
* Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have my machine setup to work on the local network
 in fact I put a all:all in the hosts.allow file
 
Please don't do that.  Leave it blank.  You may be on dialup, which limits your 
exposure, but it is not good practice, and it won't help.

What is in your hosts.deny file?  The Debian standard is ALL:PARANOID, which 
should not cause a problem.

Cam


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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-19 Thread Brian Schramm
I have just the all: paranoid in the host deny file. 
I have nothing in the hosts.allow file.  

Brian
--- Cam Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Brian Schramm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  I have my machine setup to work on the local
 network
  in fact I put a all:all in the hosts.allow file
  
 Please don't do that.  Leave it blank.  You may be
 on dialup, which limits your exposure, but it is not
 good practice, and it won't help.
 
 What is in your hosts.deny file?  The Debian
 standard is ALL:PARANOID, which should not cause a
 problem.
 
 Cam
 
 
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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-18 Thread Vittorio
Thanks for the tips!!

Vittorio

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I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I
 
 Just a thought - do your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny on the 
 imap/ipop3 server allow your client machine to make the connection?
 
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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-18 Thread Brian Schramm
I have my machine setup to work on the local network
in fact I put a all:all in the hosts.allow file

So I am still not able to get my mail by pop or imap

Brian
--- Vittorio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the tips!!
 
 Vittorio
 
 Alan Chandler [debian-user] 17/01/02 21:36 +:
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   See below for my reply:
  
 I have a problem with my mail working on
 imap and
 pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok
 since I
  
  Just a thought - do your /etc/hosts.allow and
 /etc/hosts.deny on the 
  imap/ipop3 server allow your client machine to
 make the connection?
  
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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-17 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Wednesday 16 January 2002 7:53 pm, Brian Schramm wrote:
 See below for my reply:

   I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
   pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I

Just a thought - do your /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny on the 
imap/ipop3 server allow your client machine to make the connection?

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Problem with email

2002-01-16 Thread Brian Schramm
First my stats.
Debian woody i386 from cd's bought from Cheapbytes
After installing I then updated the system with
dselect to the most current woody off the servers.
I have a fixed domain name from yi.org.
Plus I have a local network

I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I can
ping the server as well as telnet to it on the ports
nessasary (143  110).  When I try to get my mail from
any mail program I do not connect.  I get the error as
if I typed in the wrong mail server name.  I have
tryed this with several installs of debian and redhat
and am having the same error.  

What have I done wrong?

Brian Schramm


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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-16 Thread ben
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 10:33 am, Brian Schramm wrote:
 First my stats.
 Debian woody i386 from cd's bought from Cheapbytes
 After installing I then updated the system with
 dselect to the most current woody off the servers.
 I have a fixed domain name from yi.org.
 Plus I have a local network

 I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
 pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I can
 ping the server as well as telnet to it on the ports
 nessasary (143  110).  When I try to get my mail from
 any mail program I do not connect.  I get the error as
 if I typed in the wrong mail server name.  I have
 tryed this with several installs of debian and redhat
 and am having the same error.

 What have I done wrong?


that's not really enough information to go on to be able to help you. try 
describing the topology of your local network and how it's hooked to the web.

you say you're running both pop3 and imap servers--is this on the one box?

what do you mean by 'when i try to get my mail'--you need to describe the 
environment you're working with/in.

the fact that you're consistently getting the same error means that you're 
consistently making the same mistake. perhaps a better description of your 
setup process might reveal what that is.



Re: Problem with email

2002-01-16 Thread Brian Schramm
See below for my reply:

--- ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 January 2002 10:33 am, Brian Schramm
 wrote:
  First my stats.
  Debian woody i386 from cd's bought from Cheapbytes
  After installing I then updated the system with
  dselect to the most current woody off the servers.
  I have a fixed domain name from yi.org.
  Plus I have a local network
 
  I have a problem with my mail working on imap and
  pop3.  I thought that I had it set up ok since I
 can
  ping the server as well as telnet to it on the
 ports
  nessasary (143  110).  When I try to get my mail
 from
  any mail program I do not connect.  I get the
 error as
  if I typed in the wrong mail server name.  I have
  tryed this with several installs of debian and
 redhat
  and am having the same error.
 
  What have I done wrong?
 
 
 that's not really enough information to go on to be
 able to help you. try 
 describing the topology of your local network and
 how it's hooked to the web.

I have a 10baset ethernet for my local network and it
is tyed into the net with a 56K dial up modem on a
normal phone line.  The one machine is the gateway for
the email (pop3 and imap), web and anything else that
is not local.

 
 you say you're running both pop3 and imap
 servers--is this on the one box?
 
 what do you mean by 'when i try to get my mail'--you
 need to describe the 
 environment you're working with/in.

I have tryed several email clients to get the mail
from this box using pop3 or imap protocals.  Every
time I do I get an error saying that it cannot find my
box or login failed.  Right now I only have the server
on this network because I am rebuilding the network
from a hardware crash.

 
 the fact that you're consistently getting the same
 error means that you're 
 consistently making the same mistake. perhaps a
 better description of your 
 setup process might reveal what that is.

I install the distrobution and setup my users.  I then
go into my modem setup and install the program that
sets me up with my domain name on the internet.  What
that does is very similar to the way gnudip does it. 
My local network is set up like any other network that
I have ever set up.  I save the default gateway to be
assined by the ppp system.  That way it works for both
networks.  I also let my ppp connection assign the dns
servers.  I use the host file for any local computers.
 The mail server software (pop3 and imap) is installed
as it is from the default install on debian package. 
The clients (kmail and netscape for two of them) are
installed to use the opo3 or imap depending on what
the software is compatable with.  This is following
the instructions for the client.

I hope this will help you help me.  

Thanks for the help.

Brian

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Re: Problem with email

2002-01-16 Thread ben
On Wednesday 16 January 2002 11:53 am, Brian Schramm wrote:
[snip]
first off--and i'm guilty of this myself on occasion--you don't need to cc: 
everyone who responds. we're all reading the same list you post to.

 I have tryed several email clients to get the mail
 from this box using pop3 or imap protocals.  Every
 time I do I get an error saying that it cannot find my
 box or login failed.  Right now I only have the server
 on this network because I am rebuilding the network
 from a hardware crash.

so at least you know that the problem is less to do with the client than it 
is to do with the network configuration, so pick one client and stick with it 
for the moment. can you be more specific about the error(s) you're getting 
back from the network?

[more snippage]

 I install the distrobution and setup my users.  

which box are we talking about here?

 I then
 go into my modem setup and install the program that
 sets me up with my domain name on the internet.  

i'm really not sure what you mean with this. how do you 'go into your modem 
setup?' what app are you running to do this? can you elaborate on 'sets me up 
with my domain name on the internet?'

 What
 that does is very similar to the way gnudip does it.
 My local network is set up like any other network that
 I have ever set up.  

you've set up home networks before? or..? obviously some aspect of what 
you're doing 'ain't flyin' right, so it would serve you well to try to 
discern what distinguishes this instance from those others.

 I save the default gateway to be
 assined by the ppp system.  That way it works for both
 networks.  I also let my ppp connection assign the dns
 servers.  I use the host file for any local computers.
  The mail server software (pop3 and imap) is installed
 as it is from the default install on debian package.

it may be installed but is it properly configured for your situation, and, 
more to the point, what is it? what server software are you using?

 The clients (kmail and netscape for two of them) are
 installed to use the opo3 or imap depending on what
 the software is compatable with.  This is following
 the instructions for the client.

which instructions are those?

does your server fail to get the mail from your isp's mail server? 
or is it that the client box can't reach the server on your network? 

what does /etc/resolv.conf look like on the box that makes the modem 
connection to your isp? does this box have a static ip number on the net it's 
calling into?

i'm trying to make sense of what you're describing. so far, it seems like 
you've got one box with a modem connection to the web that you also want use 
as a web and mail server for at least one other box on your home network. is 
this correct?

i'm also getting the impression that you are taking experience gained hooking 
a subnet to a backbone and applying it to a home net situation. is this 
correct?