Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-24 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:19:12 +1300, Chris Bannister 
mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote:

 And you know this from skipping filesystem check cos on battery
 message?

No, but I did modify checkroot.sh script to report on_ac_power result
to screen for debug purposes. And it's 1. But when computer is started 
up, then it is 0.

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:57:55AM +, Virgo Pärna wrote:
 On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:32:25 +1300, Chris Bannister 
 mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote:
 
  IOW, does apt-get install powermgmt-base fix it?
 
 
 Nope, I had powermgmt-base already installed and it is in latest version. 
 Anyway - it seems, that it takes too long for system to figure out, that it is
 running on AC power. During that phase of startup it actually thinks, that it 
 is
 running on battery. But when system is up, it thinks that it is running on AC
 power.

And you know this from skipping filesystem check cos on battery
message?

Have a look at less /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh especially:
===
# See if we're on AC Power.  If not, we're not gonna run our
# check.  If on_ac_power (in /usr/) is unavailable, behave as
# before and check all file systems needing it.
if which on_ac_power /dev/null 21  [ $rootcheck = yes ]
then
on_ac_power /dev/null 21
if [ $? -eq 1 ]
then
log_warning_msg On battery power, so skipping file system 
check.
rootcheck=no
fi
fi

===
r...@box:~# which on_ac_power
/usr/bin/on_ac_power

r...@box:~# dpkg -S /usr/bin/on_ac_power
powermgmt-base: /usr/bin/on_ac_power

Did you read the bug report to see if there was anything related? How do
you know the bug was actually fixed? (considering the error in the
changelog.gz file.)

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009, Clifford W. Hansen wrote:
 On Saturday 14 February 2009 09:15:46 Virgo Pärna wrote:
  Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file
  system check warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected?
  Especially in Lenny.
 
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 I also get this when on battery power, and it works fine when on AC power.
 
 I believe this is actually a good thing cause if you checking your disks and 
 then run out of battery bad things(tm) can happen...

It is actually a FUBAR piece of crap, it skips the fscks even when the
filesystems are dirty (which is guaranteed to cause a much worse data loss
if the filesystem is corrupt), and it causes /forcefsck to be ignored (which
is unacceptable).

There's a bug open about it, and we're going to fix it one way or the other.

We just don't know what would be the best way yet, since fsck can't be told
to ignore the fsck after N mounts or M days without a check right now.

IMO, we may have to dump the whole idea entirely, and tell people how to
tune their filesystems to drop the N mounts or M days stuff.  When that is
done, the system will fsck only when required.  We may keep the battery
check as an optional thing that must be explicitly enabled, since it can
make a data loss episode a lot worse.

And we can certainly provide an alternative way to do rolling fscks after
some time has passed if fsck can't be fixed to let us do it the easy way.

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-16 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:32:25 +1300, Chris Bannister 
mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote:

 IOW, does apt-get install powermgmt-base fix it?


Nope, I had powermgmt-base already installed and it is in latest version. 
Anyway - it seems, that it takes too long for system to figure out, that it is
running on AC power. During that phase of startup it actually thinks, that it is
running on battery. But when system is up, it thinks that it is running on AC
power.

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-15 Thread Chris Bannister
Sorry Virgo for not replying to your OP, as I've already deleted it.

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 12:03:56PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 Virgo Pärna wrote:
  Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file 
  system check 
  warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected? Especially in 
  Lenny.
  
 fine on Thinkpad T60p.
 johannes

r...@box:~# zless /usr/share/doc/powermgmt-base/changelog.gz
powermgmt-base (1.30+nmu1) unstable; urgency=low

  * NMU
  * on_ac_power: Use /sys/class/power_supply on 2.6.25+ systems where
/proc/acpi/ac_adaptor is no longer present. Closes: #473629
(Patch by Vefa Bicakci.)

 -- Joey Hess jo...@debian.org  Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:27:22 -0400

Ooops, a typo in the changelog.gz!!! It *should* be
/proc/acpi/ac_adapter, at least on this system it is.

Hopefully, that error hasn't propagated into the code, or the patch is
useless!!! 

r...@box:~# apt-cache policy powermgmt-base
powermgmt-base:
  Installed: 1.30+nmu1
  Candidate: 1.30+nmu1
  Version table:
 *** 1.30+nmu1 0
990 http://debian.attica.net.nz lenny/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

IOW, does apt-get install powermgmt-base fix it?

If not bug #473629 may need to be reopened, but alas, maybe to late for
Lenny.

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-14 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Virgo Pärna wrote:
 Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file system 
 check 
 warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected? Especially in 
 Lenny.
 
fine on Thinkpad T60p.
johannes


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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-14 Thread Clifford W. Hansen
On Saturday 14 February 2009 09:15:46 Virgo Pärna wrote:
 Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file
 system check warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected?
 Especially in Lenny.

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I also get this when on battery power, and it works fine when on AC power.

I believe this is actually a good thing cause if you checking your disks and 
then run out of battery bad things(tm) can happen...

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-14 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:48:27 +0200, Clifford W. Hansen 
cliff...@nighthawk.co.za wrote:

 I also get this when on battery power, and it works fine when on AC power.

 I believe this is actually a good thing cause if you checking your disks and 
 then run out of battery bad things(tm) can happen...


The problem is, that my Acer Travelmate 2355XC reports this also, when on 
AC 
power. And if I added debug checks /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh file, then I 
discovered, 
that the ac module is loaded, but system really thinks, that it is running on 
battery. But when system if fully started, it thinks that it works on AC power. 

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-14 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 07:15:46AM +, Virgo Pärna wrote:
 Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file
 system check warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power
 connected? Especially in Lenny.
 

Is your ACPI working properly? There may be an ACPI problem that causes
the computer to not be able to tell the OS if it's on AC power or not.

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Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power

2009-02-13 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/2/14 Virgo Pärna virgo.pa...@mail.ee:
Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file system 
 check
 warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected? Especially in 
 Lenny.

No, fine here on acer aspire.

Adrian

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