Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
AG: These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge I am afraid to state the obvious after so many replies in this thread, but apparently your window manager isn't running. I would open a terminal and try running metacity from there. If it crashes for some reason, you at least have a change to spot a helpful error message in the terminal. BTW, did you take a look at ~/.xsession-errors? J. -- I am no longer prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 10/06/11 05:18, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: snipped root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login Why is #(root) running su?? Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1d337.5080...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:17 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 10/06/11 05:18, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: snipped root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login Why is #(root) running su?? Cheers Usually I'm not doing this, I missed that I already was root when I wanted to test the difference between 'su' and 'su --login', perhaps I didn't push Ctrl + D hard enough, before I run 'su --login' and already typed :D. Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307694477.12325.14.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 10/06/11 18:27, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:17 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 10/06/11 05:18, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: snipped root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login Why is #(root) running su?? Cheers Usually I'm not doing this, I missed that I already was root when I wanted to test the difference between 'su' and 'su --login', perhaps I didn't push Ctrl + D hard enough, before I run 'su --login' and already typed :D. Ralf I'm guessing from the gedit that you're running Gnome? Have you tried gksu and gksudo eg:- #gksu gedit (will work if installed) Alternatively you could try:- $xhost + (might not work) then su and run graphic editor. NOTE: security risk, but doesn't survive a reboot. Can be made permanent, and I haven't tried this with anything later than Lenny. Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1e306.9010...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 19:25 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 10/06/11 18:27, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I'm guessing from the gedit that you're running Gnome? Have you tried gksu and gksudo eg:- #gksu gedit (will work if installed) $ gksu gedit (gedit:13772): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.TWE1WV': No such file or directory (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory Since gedit opens and works when running it after su, su - or with gksu it's ok, even with those warnings ;). -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307701217.13487.17.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:18:36 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based applications (i.e., su - instead su) ;-) Thank you :) that's better, still some GTK warnings root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login root@debian:~# gedit (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.0T0SWV': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory I think you can safely ignore those warnings (BTW, I don't get them on my wheezy) or you can try to find why they are flooding your screen. From your root dir, run: ls -la ls -la .local/share Could it be that some distros handle it different to Debian? IIRC on Suse su + gedit is ok ... I need to check this later. Yep, each distribution use their own tricks but reagardless the distro, it is still preferable to use su - or gksu/kdesu when you want to run GUI applications despite the GTK warnings :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.11.03...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 11:03 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:18:36 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based applications (i.e., su - instead su) ;-) Thank you :) that's better, still some GTK warnings root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login root@debian:~# gedit (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.0T0SWV': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory I think you can safely ignore those warnings (BTW, I don't get them on my wheezy) or you can try to find why they are flooding your screen. Thank you :) 3 warnings are ok, just the tons of warnings I get with 'su' are bad, since I sometimes like to scroll back and e.g. copy something I 'ls' or 'cat' before, to paste it into a script I edit with gedit. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307704750.13487.46.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 06/09/2011 12:38 PM, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Did you shut down cleanly? Does ~/.gnome2 still exist? What are the timestamps on it's files? Do you boot directly into GNOME or enter it using startx? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df10a42.4090...@cox.net
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me too. A reboot always reset everything to normal. If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after rebooting everything was fixed. Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost. My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that shouldn't cause any issues. I suspect that D-Bus is broken. Just a shot in the dark ;) Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307643570.6819.7.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG PS, not an issue, but it might has to do with those issues: spinymouse@debian:~$ gedit spinymouse@debian:~$ su Password: root@debian:/home/spinymouse# gedit (gedit:7637): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.) (gedit:7637): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common cause is a missing or misconfigured D-Bus session bus daemon. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 09/06/11 19:00, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/09/2011 12:38 PM, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Did you shut down cleanly? Does ~/.gnome2 still exist? What are the timestamps on it's files? Do you boot directly into GNOME or enter it using startx? Hi Ron Yes I shut down/ rebooted cleanly - or at least as I've always done so. Yes gnome2 still exists, but I cannot find any timestamps anywhere. I boot into gdm3 and then login Cheers AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df10fb9.8070...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 09/06/11 19:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me too. A reboot always reset everything to normal. If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after rebooting everything was fixed. Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost. My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that shouldn't cause any issues. I suspect that D-Bus is broken. Just a shot in the dark ;) Ralf Hey Ralf Thanks for the reply ... unfortunately the reboot fix just ain't working for me :-( I've rebooted several times now in the course of trying to fix this and it is still the same fecked-up cr4p that it was when I appealed for help. This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! Thanks anyway. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df11059.20...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS, not an issue, but it might has to do with those issues: spinymouse@debian:~$ gedit spinymouse@debian:~$ su Password: root@debian:/home/spinymouse# gedit (gedit:7637): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported (...) Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based applications (i.e., su - instead su) ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.09.18.51...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
[snip]
(gedit:7637): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename
'/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common
Why in ${DEITY}'s name are you logged in as root??
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Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 06/09/2011 01:26 PM, AG wrote: [snip] This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! It doesn't. But your existing session might have scribbled over something. I'd suggest moving these directories to a holding pen and then restart: ~/.gnome2 ~/.config/gnome-session/ ~/.config/autostart/ ~/.config/compiz/ ~/.config/dconf/ ~/.config/ -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1190d.1060...@cox.net
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 19:26 +0100, AG wrote: On 09/06/11 19:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me too. A reboot always reset everything to normal. If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after rebooting everything was fixed. Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost. My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that shouldn't cause any issues. I suspect that D-Bus is broken. Just a shot in the dark ;) Ralf Hey Ralf Thanks for the reply ... unfortunately the reboot fix just ain't working for me :-( I've rebooted several times now in the course of trying to fix this and it is still the same fecked-up cr4p that it was when I appealed for help. This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! Thanks anyway. AG You don't have a multi boot with another Linux for your work? That's bad! If you have serious work to do, don't waste your time with fixing your install. If for some reasons you should need this install, keep it and fix it at another time. I would install a second Linux and do important work first. I hope somebody can help you to solve this issue. Good luck! Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307646614.6819.43.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: PS, not an issue, but it might has to do with those issues: spinymouse@debian:~$ gedit spinymouse@debian:~$ su Password: root@debian:/home/spinymouse# gedit (gedit:7637): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported (...) Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based applications (i.e., su - instead su) ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón Thank you :) that's better, still some GTK warnings root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login root@debian:~# gedit (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.0T0SWV': No such file or directory (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory Could it be that some distros handle it different to Debian? IIRC on Suse su + gedit is ok ... I need to check this later. Anyway, my bad :(. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307647116.6819.47.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 13:58 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 06/09/2011 01:23 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
[snip]
(gedit:7637): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename
'/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory
GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; the most common
Why in ${DEITY}'s name are you logged in as root??
The GNOME session is a user session, but when working with the terminal
emulation I sometimes have to edit files as root.
Btw. years ago Suse enabled root DE sessions for default installs, they
dropped it. I don't understand what's bad with a root session. Not
everybody needs a secure system, because some workstations are neither
multi user, nor connected to the Internet and some people prefer a GUI
for file management etc.. Btw. even as user I prefer cd, ls, but
Nautilius.
Linux can be used for different needs, as an audio user, for me most
distros are a PITA.
A long time the audio community hoped that D-Bus and PulseAudio won't
become standard for default installs. Regarding to D-Bus a lot of people
changed their minds, since they switched from scripts to GUI session
handlers, but PulseAudio still is a PITA, fortunately Debian allows me
not to use PulseAudio.
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Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 09/06/11 20:03, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/09/2011 01:26 PM, AG wrote: [snip] This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! It doesn't. But your existing session might have scribbled over something. I'd suggest moving these directories to a holding pen and then restart: ~/.gnome2 ~/.config/gnome-session/ ~/.config/autostart/ ~/.config/compiz/ ~/.config/dconf/ ~/.config/ Hi Ron Done that and still it is reverting to this new and grossly unimproved version of my desktop. I have tried a clean installation just to eliminate any other system file involved and must conclude that it is somewhere in one of my ~/ configuration files, but just not those you have mentioned ... . Do you know of any other configuration files likely to influence this behaviour? I'm still getting that error message about an unknown window manager with an unregistered configuration tool, despite a vanilla install and preserving my ~/ partition. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df12469.5000...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 09/06/11 20:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 19:26 +0100, AG wrote: On 09/06/11 19:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me too. A reboot always reset everything to normal. If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after rebooting everything was fixed. Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost. My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that shouldn't cause any issues. I suspect that D-Bus is broken. Just a shot in the dark ;) Ralf Hey Ralf Thanks for the reply ... unfortunately the reboot fix just ain't working for me :-( I've rebooted several times now in the course of trying to fix this and it is still the same fecked-up cr4p that it was when I appealed for help. This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! Thanks anyway. AG You don't have a multi boot with another Linux for your work? That's bad! If you have serious work to do, don't waste your time with fixing your install. If for some reasons you should need this install, keep it and fix it at another time. I would install a second Linux and do important work first. I hope somebody can help you to solve this issue. Good luck! Ralf Ralf I reckon that you've got a point there. I just didn't want to get tangled up in UIDs for ~/ partitions and files, etc. so have avoided it out of cowardice to date. Given the spate of issues that I seem to have had of late with Debian, that may be a cowardice I will need to overcome. I don't want to encounter this when writing up my thesis, for example, and maybe installing a nice, safe stable version as a safety net would be good. I assume that is possible? AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df12502.3080...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:54 +0100, AG wrote: On 09/06/11 20:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 19:26 +0100, AG wrote: On 09/06/11 19:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote: Hi all Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional. These are some of the issues: 1. Windows manager is unknown and no configuration tool is registered 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen I cannot drag these elsewhere 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to minimise/ enlarge 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a screensaver) 7. no key mapping exists Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions. No other user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets configured in safe updates using update-manager. Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment to work in. Thanks. AG I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me too. A reboot always reset everything to normal. If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after rebooting everything was fixed. Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost. My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that shouldn't cause any issues. I suspect that D-Bus is broken. Just a shot in the dark ;) Ralf Hey Ralf Thanks for the reply ... unfortunately the reboot fix just ain't working for me :-( I've rebooted several times now in the course of trying to fix this and it is still the same fecked-up cr4p that it was when I appealed for help. This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! Thanks anyway. AG You don't have a multi boot with another Linux for your work? That's bad! If you have serious work to do, don't waste your time with fixing your install. If for some reasons you should need this install, keep it and fix it at another time. I would install a second Linux and do important work first. I hope somebody can help you to solve this issue. Good luck! Ralf Ralf I reckon that you've got a point there. I just didn't want to get tangled up in UIDs for ~/ partitions and files, etc. so have avoided it out of cowardice to date. Given the spate of issues that I seem to have had of late with Debian, that may be a cowardice I will need to overcome. I don't want to encounter this when writing up my thesis, for example, and maybe installing a nice, safe stable version as a safety net would be good. I assume that is possible? AG You seem to be a native speaker? My English is terrible broken. IIUC you're asking if it's safe and easy to install a second Linux? You give the impression, that I guess, it's easy to do for you. The installer will show you existing installs and you can add a new install and GRUB automatically will enable you to boot one or the other install. When you are writing a thesis, you should do backups on a second hard disc very often. Usually A stable Linux will keep stable for ever and ever, but Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives always play against us: Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment Nihilistic greets, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307651643.6819.96.camel@debian
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 06/09/2011 02:52 PM, AG wrote: On 09/06/11 20:03, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/09/2011 01:26 PM, AG wrote: [snip] This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by a safe-update ? Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete waste of time when I have work to do! It doesn't. But your existing session might have scribbled over something. I'd suggest moving these directories to a holding pen and then restart: ~/.gnome2 ~/.config/gnome-session/ ~/.config/autostart/ ~/.config/compiz/ ~/.config/dconf/ ~/.config/ Hi Ron Done that and still it is reverting to this new and grossly unimproved version of my desktop. I have tried a clean installation just to eliminate any other system file involved and must conclude that it is somewhere in one of my ~/ configuration files, but just not those you have mentioned ... . Do you know of any other configuration files likely to influence this behaviour? I'm still getting that error message about an unknown window manager with an unregistered configuration tool, despite a vanilla install and preserving my ~/ partition. Not really. The standard next suggestion is to create a new account and see if the problems still happen. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df143b5.7080...@cox.net
