Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: > > > I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a > windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that > in order to install linux in my computer. Two possibilities come to mind: FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), a freeware dos program which will do this (you must defrag the Win95 partition first, which probably means turning off swap and changing the attributes on any hidden or system files). Partition Magic, a commercial program which does a bit more than fips, such as moving and enlarging a partition. It also comes with the OS/2 boot manager. I've used both, but prefer Partition Magic. Either will work reliably, but the usual caveat is to backup your files before using one of these. Partition Magic 3.0 will handle FAT32 partitions. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
I think the program you are looking for is called fips. I don't know quite where to find it. It could be touchy to use Win95 doesn't get along well with other systems, and I don't know how it would react to having it's partition resized. On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: > > > I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a > windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that > in order to install linux in my computer. > > > - > Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > - > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Eliezer Figueroa") writes:
> I need to know where to find a program that could be use to split a
> windows 95 partition without deleting the information in it. I need that
> in order to install linux in my computer.
>
Try "http://www.student.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~schaefer/fips.html";
about FIPS-1.5 and"ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/diskutil/presz112.zip"; for
another great free repartitioner.
Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
fips works fine with Win95. Last September I had a new Dell with a 3 GB disk and Win95 installed and defragmented the disk with some Norton utility program and then resized the partion down to 1 GB and then created three more partitions for Linux (/root, swap, and /usr) and it worked just fine. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
> "BN" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BN> Two possibilities come to mind: BN> FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...] BN> Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...] Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing? -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > > "BN" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BN> Two possibilities come to mind: > > BN> FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...] > > BN> Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...] > > Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing? Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs. It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch the disk; no error message, just a code. I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 49% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
> "HM" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: HM> Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs. Oh, my fault, I'll specify I have a FAT partition at the end of a large disk, and to be able to boot from that partition (at least from NT), it has to be at the start of the disk/first partition. Debian is just installed, so it won't take more than, say, 1 hour to reinstall that to the point where I am now. HM> It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything HM> wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch HM> the disk; no error message, just a code. I noticed. That's what comes from using too many partitioning tools... :( -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: I need a disk partitioner!!!
Partition Magic 3 does claim to have support for ext2fs. It does a very good job on moving, resizing, converting partitions from NTFS - FAT - FAT32 - HPFS. I've never actually tried doing anything to an ext2fs partition yet. I need to get a better backup device first :). It's a tool I just keep going back to. Well worth the money. I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment. >-- >From: Hamish Moffatt[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 01 July 1997 11:34 >To:Stig Sandbeck Mathisen >Cc: Debian User List >Subject: Re: I need a disk partitioner!!! > >On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: >> >>>>> "BN" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> BN> Two possibilities come to mind: >> >> BN> FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...] >> >> BN> Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...] >> >> Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing? > >Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs. >It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything >wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch >the disk; no error message, just a code. > >I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it. > >Hamish >-- >Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. >http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 49% >The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr > > >-- >TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? >e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jul 01, 1997 at 11:00:22AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > > > "BN" == Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > BN> Two possibilities come to mind: > > > > BN> FIPS (at ftp.debian.org in /debian/tools), [...] > > > > BN> Partition Magic, a commercial program which [...] > > > > Does both of these also support moving a partition, not just resizing? > > Partition Magic 2 at least won't move or do anything to ext2fs. > It also tends to be pretty cryptic if it thinks there's anything > wrong with a partition table; just gives an error and won't touch > the disk; no error message, just a code. > > I would think 3.0 would be better in this regard, but I haven't seen it. Neither will do anything to an ext2fs partition. 3.0 does correctly recognize it, however and I believe it will mark an unallocated partition as type 82/83. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
> > I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but > I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment. > I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can do. However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change. On DOS systems (I've not worked much with Win95) to get larger partitions and file systems a huge cluster size is chosen. This means that every little file is allocated as much as 8k of disk. To get around this shrink the existing file-system so that the free space is the size you want for the final DOS/Windows partition, create a file system (make it bootable if you want) and then copy your files to that partition. Once you've checked your work and are sure that everything is as you want it to be, delete the original file- system and use that space for you ext2fs. And always make a backup or two before you start... Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but >> I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment. >> >I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can >do. However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT >file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change. IIRC FIPS also refuses(-ed?) to work on non-primary partitions, '95, NT partitions etc. Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0) Dimitri -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Dima wrote: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> I'm sure FIPS does a good job for a one off re-size of a partition, but > >> I've never used it, so I wouldn't like to comment. > >> > >I've used FIPS some a couple of years ago - I really liked what it can > >do. However, the is one caveat - when shrinking a partition with a FAT > >file system, remember that the cluster size is *not* going to change. > > IIRC FIPS also refuses(-ed?) to work on non-primary partitions, > '95, NT partitions etc. > Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several > partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0) > I don't think it support ext2, it just recognizes it. From checking their web pages, I don't see any mention of being able to resize an ext2 partition. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: I need a disk partitioner!!!
>>Shaya Potter wrote: >On Fri, 4 Jul 1997, Dima wrote: >> Partition Magic OTOH does change cluster size and supports several >> partition types, including ext2 (as of PM 3.0) >> > >I don't think it support ext2, it just recognizes it. From checking their >web pages, I don't see any mention of being able to resize an ext2 >partition. I should've added "IIRC" -- I thought I've read somewhere that it does... (I have PM 2.03 here) Dimitri PS. please cc me when replying to the list :-) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
