Re: Mutt and NFS

2001-04-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Cheng H. Lee wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a question about running Mutt and NFS together. My current mail
 setup has procmail delivering mail to ~/mail and mutt reading the mail
 boxes from there. However, when I'm reading mail from my other box (which
 has /home mounted from NFS), mutt always open my mail-boxes read-only.
 
 I've read the Readme.NFS that came with mutt but would rather not have
 to mount the entire /home tree with the 'nolock' option. Also, the mutt
 FAQ says that I can get around this by configuring mutt using the
 '--with-homespool' option, but I haven't figure out how to do this.
 
 Any hints/advice? Both boxes are currently running unstable.

i don't have problems with mutt and nfs, other then it not detecting
new mail in my marked mailboxes very consistently (i think this is a
meta data caching issue)  i have verified that locking works correctly
on my nfs setup.

you should not use kernels older then 2.2.18 on either server or
client, and you must run lockd and statd.  verify that they are
running and things should work correctly.  also you should use NFSv3,
which you may have to enable experimental options in your kernel
config to see.  

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Re: Mutt and NFS

2001-04-04 Thread Waldemar Brodkorb
Hello Cheng,

* Cheng H. Lee wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have a question about running Mutt and NFS together. My current mail
 setup has procmail delivering mail to ~/mail and mutt reading the mail
 boxes from there. However, when I'm reading mail from my other box (which
 has /home mounted from NFS), mutt always open my mail-boxes read-only.
 
 I've read the Readme.NFS that came with mutt but would rather not have
 to mount the entire /home tree with the 'nolock' option.

If you use user-space NFS daemon, there's no ther way then to mount
with nolock, because Userspace NFS supports not really a good
filelocking mechanism. IMHO 

 Also, the mutt
 FAQ says that I can get around this by configuring mutt using the
 '--with-homespool' option, but I haven't figure out how to do this.
 
 Any hints/advice? Both boxes are currently running unstable.

Try to use Kernel NFS.

ciao
Waldemar

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Re: Mutt and NFS

2001-04-04 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:37:22PM -0500, Cheng H. Lee wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have a question about running Mutt and NFS together. My current mail
 setup has procmail delivering mail to ~/mail and mutt reading the mail
 boxes from there. However, when I'm reading mail from my other box (which
 has /home mounted from NFS), mutt always open my mail-boxes read-only.
 
 I've read the Readme.NFS that came with mutt but would rather not have
 to mount the entire /home tree with the 'nolock' option. 

FWIW I'm using mutt with NFS-mounted /var/mail (with nolock) and I haven't
lost any mail so far.

Also, the mutt
 FAQ says that I can get around this by configuring mutt using the
 '--with-homespool' option, but I haven't figure out how to do this.

They are referring to compile-time configuration. You'll need to get
mutt source package and build it yourself.

Dima
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Re: Mutt and NFS (reprise)

1999-09-10 Thread Obi
Thanks! It actually works ... only if I mount that directly but it
doesn't work if I use amd specifying nolock! I'll figure it out though.

Thanks again
graziano

On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:51:28PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Obi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I know this topic already showed up on the mailing list but the solutions
 weren't really up to mu case: that is having the file on the local FS!!
 
 The situation is /home NFS mounted and mutt refusing to do anything to
 every file in the home directory because of the dreaded locking
 mechanism. THe server is a Debian stable machine and the client is an
 unstable Debian client. 
 
 What can I do? 
 
 If you're running a 2.2 kernel on the NFS client, it tries to do
 NFS locking by default. If your server doesn't support that you
 have to mount the NFS partition with the option nolock. That's all.
 
 Mike.
 -- 
 ... somehow I have a feeling the hurting hasn't even begun yet
   -- Bill, The Terrible Thunderlizards


Re: Mutt and NFS (reprise)

1999-09-10 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
I'm having problems with mutt and NFS too. I mount /var/spool/mail by
NFS and cant delete mails.
How to fix this?
Thanks, Paulo Henrique
Quoting Obi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Thanks! It actually works ... only if I mount that directly but it
 doesn't work if I use amd specifying nolock! I'll figure it out though.
 
 Thanks again
 graziano
 
 On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:51:28PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
  In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  Obi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I know this topic already showed up on the mailing list but the solutions
  weren't really up to mu case: that is having the file on the local FS!!
  
  The situation is /home NFS mounted and mutt refusing to do anything to
  every file in the home directory because of the dreaded locking
  mechanism. THe server is a Debian stable machine and the client is an
  unstable Debian client. 
  
  What can I do? 
  
  If you're running a 2.2 kernel on the NFS client, it tries to do
  NFS locking by default. If your server doesn't support that you
  have to mount the NFS partition with the option nolock. That's all.
  
  Mike.
  -- 
  ... somehow I have a feeling the hurting hasn't even begun yet
  -- Bill, The Terrible Thunderlizards


Re: Mutt and NFS (reprise)

1999-09-10 Thread Obi
I fixed that with the nolock options as suggested by Miquel. My problem
was that mutt couldn't lock the file (you see an error 37), so I couldn't
modify the mailbox at all.

graziano

On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:18:09PM +, Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira 
wrote:
   I'm having problems with mutt and NFS too. I mount /var/spool/mail by
 NFS and cant delete mails.
   How to fix this?
   Thanks, Paulo Henrique
 Quoting Obi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Thanks! It actually works ... only if I mount that directly but it
  doesn't work if I use amd specifying nolock! I'll figure it out though.
  
  Thanks again
  graziano
  
  On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 11:51:28PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
   In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Obi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi all,
   
   I know this topic already showed up on the mailing list but the solutions
   weren't really up to mu case: that is having the file on the local FS!!
   
   The situation is /home NFS mounted and mutt refusing to do anything to
   every file in the home directory because of the dreaded locking
   mechanism. THe server is a Debian stable machine and the client is an
   unstable Debian client. 
   
   What can I do? 
   
   If you're running a 2.2 kernel on the NFS client, it tries to do
   NFS locking by default. If your server doesn't support that you
   have to mount the NFS partition with the option nolock. That's all.
   
   Mike.
   -- 
   ... somehow I have a feeling the hurting hasn't even begun yet
 -- Bill, The Terrible Thunderlizards


Re: Mutt and NFS (reprise)

1999-09-08 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Obi  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,

I know this topic already showed up on the mailing list but the solutions
weren't really up to mu case: that is having the file on the local FS!!

The situation is /home NFS mounted and mutt refusing to do anything to
every file in the home directory because of the dreaded locking
mechanism. THe server is a Debian stable machine and the client is an
unstable Debian client. 

What can I do? 

If you're running a 2.2 kernel on the NFS client, it tries to do
NFS locking by default. If your server doesn't support that you
have to mount the NFS partition with the option nolock. That's all.

Mike.
-- 
... somehow I have a feeling the hurting hasn't even begun yet
-- Bill, The Terrible Thunderlizards